<snipped>
> I have a Kate Bush CD to listen to.
>
Pardon?
<snipped>
w00f
>Subject: Re: I Throw In the Towel ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:21:34 +0000
>
>Le Thu, 11 Jul 2002 00:37:54 +0100, dirtdog
><dog.of.sp...@w00f.w00f.w00f.com> a écrit :
>
>>> I have a Kate Bush CD to listen to.
>
>> Pardon?
>
>Oh, all right. I have a Kate Bush CD to which I must listen. ;-)
>
>--
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
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Desi is afraid of his own words! He can be reached at des...@noos.fr or
des...@zeouane.org.
As everyone knows, only COWARDS forge posts yet don't allow their own to be
archived!
Now Desi, Tell us about the Baltimore County police.
>Subject: I Throw In the Towel ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:20:05 +0000
>
>PV, you've got me beat.
>
>I check AADP, and see around thirty fucking posts from you, all in
>response to me !!
>
>Whilst I'm flattered that you seem to 'not take [me] seriously' to
>such an extent that your entire time on AADP is devoted to answering
>me, I _do_ have a fucking life !
>
>I have a bottle of Bordeaux to polish off. I have a pregnant wife to
>pamper. I have a Kate Bush CD to listen to.
>
>So I'm going to try to answer most of your cra^H^Hposts, but don't
>expect an answer to all of them ...
>
>
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>Subject: I Throw In the Towel ...
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>PV, you've got me beat.
>
>I have a bottle of Bordeaux to polish off. I have a pregnant wife to
>pamper.
Poor old Desi, drunk again! ;-(
William Robert
>Le Thu, 11 Jul 2002 00:37:54 +0100, dirtdog <dog.of.sp...@w00f.w00f.w00f.com> a écrit :
>
>>> I have a Kate Bush CD to listen to.
>
>> Pardon?
>
>Oh, all right. I have a Kate Bush CD to which I must listen. ;-)
I don't care if you worded it as though scribed by the pen of an
angel.
It's the Kate Bush thing which worries me.
w00f
Bugger off. Ms Bush has some fan-fuckin'-tastic moments. Something of
a looker in her younger days, too, if you ask me. Eye's like bleedin'
_saucers_, I tell you.
Mr Q. Z. D.
--
Drinker, systems administrator, wannabe writer, musician and all-round bastard.
"...Base 8 is just like base 10 really... ((o))
If you're missing two fingers." - Tom Lehrer ((O))
Potty mouth. I checked AADP and found 60 from you, all in response
to my 30, plus another 30 devoted to oblique snippiness at my handle with
your inimitable 'meaningless drivel.' Could you possibly work on your
material, it definitely outdated.
>
> Whilst I'm flattered that you seem to 'not take [me] seriously' to
> such an extent that your entire time on AADP is devoted to answering
> me, I _do_ have a ****ing life !
Actually, no one believes that but you, DESMOND.
>
> I have a bottle of Bordeaux to polish off. I have a pregnant wife to
> pamper. I have a Kate Bush CD to listen to.
>
Do you intend to attack those tasks in any particular order? Trust
me... the Bordeaux will be the best part of those three.
> So I'm going to try to answer most of your cra^H^Hposts, but don't
> expect an answer to all of them ...
>
Tears, tears, tears... oh... the copious tears. How will I ever bear the
thought of you not posting your meaningless drivel to me? Let me
see... any possibility of me also regaining access to that sanctum
sanctorium where you hold all manner of posts from posters you
find you can't handle... that most holy of holy... drum roll.... your killfile?
>
> --
> Desmond Coughlan |PV'S OUT OF HIS KILL FILE
|PV'S OUT OF HIS KILL FILE
|GOD'S SHAKING HIS HEAD
|THE WORLD SUCKS
>Subject: Re: I Throw In the Towel ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:59:34 +0000
>
>Le Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:22:17 +0100, dirtdog <dog.of.sp...@w00f.cxm> a
>écrit :
>
>>>>> I have a Kate Bush CD to listen to.
>
>>>> Pardon?
>
>>>Oh, all right. I have a Kate Bush CD to which I must listen. ;-)
>
>> I don't care if you worded it as though scribed by the pen of an
>> angel.
>>
>> It's the Kate Bush thing which worries me.
>
>Any more of that, matey, and your mother's arse is getting stretched ...
>
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
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Er PV
It's Sanctum Sanctorum. Its become more and more obvious to me that you do
not have the benefit of a classical education either. Methinks thou doth
protesteth too much about dirtdog. Could you be a bitch in heat?
WooF w00f WooF
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ROTFLMAO -- Obviously, you are attempting to assume the role of DESMOND
as the resident pedantic and dirt's sock puppet rolled into one. Let me assure
you that Sanctorium in the OED is -- "A shrine." And you will find it is "the lady
doth protest too much, methinks." With 'protesteth' not actually being much
of any kind of a word in the English language. Further, your lack of a placement
of an apostrope, in the contraction of 'it has,' means that you will never be able
to comment on my sometimes including one where it's not used. If you're
going to try to call someone a fool, be sure you do not demonstrate you are
a fool yourself, in the process.
PV
On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:00:20 +0000, Desi Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote:
>AO-fuckin'-L, mate. Kate Bush is a genius, and gorgeous with it ...
>
>Much like me, really ... ;-)
been crossdressing again Desi??
William Robert
Imitating your wife's love call again, DESMOND? Or is that your call to her?
Fortunately my education provided me the understanding that English is a
rich language, that Antarctica is a Continent, and that the Balkans are in
Europe (Humm.. in fact the OED confirms that, by defining 'Balkan' to
be "with allusion to the relations (often characterized by threatened
hostilities) of the Balkan states to each other or to the rest of Europe..."
'rest of Europe' 'rest of Europe' 'rest of Europe' Got it yet?
Further, you always seem to be concentrating on what you consider your
particular area of 'expertise' (sic). Which has nothing to do with the DP.
And you are getting beat at your 'own game.' As I've done with dirt and
his 'legal expertise.' If I were to ask you one of the most simple questions
available in my expertise you would be totally at a loss for even an
understanding of what I mean, or how to approach such a problem. For
example, the MOST trivial question I can imagine is at what frequency is
a 10 cm quarter wave length transmission line resonant? I am certain
you look at this question with a look of bewilderment on your face, and
turn to some colleague for assistance. Yet it is absurdly simple if one
realizes that light in a vacuum propagates at 300,000 kilometers/per
second. So simple that I hesitate to even descend to asking such a question.
Simply by canceling out some powers of 10. Do you know the answer?
And if you do, I have a number of other questions beyond this kindergarten
level.
My question is also why don't you ever stick to the subject of this newsgroup
instead of demonstrating you are a fool of a pedagogue, and a fool in the
general sense of the word as well?
PV
> { snip }
PV
===============================
Yes! The referee rules in favor of PV for the point.
PV 1, Dezi 0.
snip
> Yes! The referee rules in favor of PV for the point.
>
> PV 1, Dezi 0.
As soon as Desmond uses that f**cking silly Bwwwetc nonsense, he always
loses.
PV, I realize you made this easy for Desi, but what is the velocity factor of
the transmission line?
>My question is also why don't you ever stick to the subject of this newsgroup
>instead of demonstrating you are a fool of a pedagogue, and a fool in the
>general sense of the word as well?
Desi likes the attention, probably something from his childhood.
BTW PV, have you ever seen Desi's academic record?
William Robert
> >My question is also why don't you ever stick to the subject of this newsgroup
> >instead of demonstrating you are a fool of a pedagogue, and a fool in the
> >general sense of the word as well?
>
> Desi likes the attention, probably something from his childhood.
>
> BTW PV, have you ever seen Desi's academic record?
His what????
To further explain to Desi, the velocity factor is primarily based on the
dielectric properties of the insulating materials used in the construction of
the line. The velocity factor causes the electrical wavelength to be shorter
than the wavelength in free space. Got that Desi?
> And when dealing with
>DESMOND the last thing we need to do is try to be complex since he becomes
>totally confused when we do.
True, I doubt if he could understand the math or physics. Out of his
frustration, you'll just move another step closer to his kill file.
>> >My question is also why don't you ever stick to the subject of this
newsgroup
>> >instead of demonstrating you are a fool of a pedagogue, and a fool in the
>> >general sense of the word as well?
>>
>> Desi likes the attention, probably something from his childhood.
>>
>> BTW PV, have you ever seen Desi's academic record?
>
>His what????
The following was recently made available to me. Desi, watch out for your
'friends' !!
At first, I thought this was a girl's CV.
Desi's education:
1995 - 1996: University of Stirling, Stirling, Scotland
Qualification Obtained: MPhil Contemporary French Literature
1991 - 1995: University of Stirling, Stirling, Scotland
Qualification Obtained: BA (Hons) French Language and Literature
1990 - 1991: Cumbernauld College, Cumbernauld, Scotland
Qualifications Obtained: English, Modern Studies, History
1989 - 1990: Cardonald College, Glasgow, Scotland
Qualification Obtained: Higher French
1985 - 1986: Cumbernauld College, Cumbernauld, Scotland
Qualifications Obtained: Ordinary Grade Physics, Ordinary Grade Chemistry
1979 - 1985: Our Lady's High School, Cumbernauld, Scotland
Qualifications Obtained: Ordinary Grade Arithmetic, Higher Biology
William Robert
PV
<embarrassment to DESMOND clipped>
>"William Robert" <billy...@aol.comnotdonko> wrote in message
news:20020712183150...@mb-ch.aol.com...
>> On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:31:01 GMT, "A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
wrote:
>>
>> To further explain to Desi, the velocity factor is primarily based on the
>> dielectric properties of the insulating materials used in the construction
of
>> the line. The velocity factor causes the electrical wavelength to be shorter
>> than the wavelength in free space. Got that Desi?
>>
>Now you've done it... DESMOND believes that 'dielectric' is what those
>who speak American English speak in. He could now not be more confused.
And what about free space? Yes, I really should try harder to understand
Desi's limitations.
>
>> > And when dealing with
>> >DESMOND the last thing we need to do is try to be complex since he becomes
>> >totally confused when we do.
>>
>> True, I doubt if he could understand the math or physics. Out of his
>> frustration, you'll just move another step closer to his kill file.
>>
>Oh.... sweet Jesus... be still my heart. My fondest dream may become
>a reality for the third time. Wouldn't that make it some sort of record?
Hard to say. Desi first told me I was in his kill file on November 6, 1996 at
3:36 UTC. However, he still seems aware of everything I post. My guess is
that Desi doesn't yet know how to properly configure a kill file.
><embarrassment to DESMOND clipped>
Yes PV, that was the humane thing to do.
What should be the next topic for Desi's education, basic digital-logic
circuits? After all these are at the heart of his computer.
William Robert
Desi's education:
William Robert
===============================
I made a quick phone call to a buddy in the French law enforcement system.
Please update Desmonds dossier with the following additional academic
information:
University Maîtrise de Littérature Féministe Française
>ubject: Re: I Throw In the Towel ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:21:45 +0000
>
>Le Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:34:59 +0800, Cerberus <Cerb...@riverstyx.net> a
>écrit :
>{ snip }
>
>> It's Sanctum Sanctorum. Its become more and more obvious to me that you do
>> not have the benefit of a classical education either.
>
>... and it drives him _up the wall_ !!!
>
>Bwaaaaaahahahahahaaa !!!!
>
>{ snip }
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>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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>Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:00:20 +0000
>
>Le Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:39:20 GMT, Mr Q. Z. Diablo
><jona...@zeouane.org.remove.this.it.is.bollocks> a écrit :
>
>>> >>> I have a Kate Bush CD to listen to.
>
>>> >> Pardon?
>
>>> >Oh, all right. I have a Kate Bush CD to which I must listen. ;-)
>
>>> I don't care if you worded it as though scribed by the pen of an
>>> angel.
>>>
>>> It's the Kate Bush thing which worries me.
>
>> Bugger off. Ms Bush has some fan-fuckin'-tastic moments. Something of
>> a looker in her younger days, too, if you ask me. Eye's like bleedin'
>> _saucers_, I tell you.
>
>AO-fuckin'-L, mate. Kate Bush is a genius, and gorgeous with it ...
>
>Much like me, really ... ;-)
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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>PV, you've got me beat.
>
>I have a bottle of Bordeaux to polish off. I have a pregnant wife to
>pamper.
Desi, have you discovered who the father is?
William Robert
>Le Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:31:13 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
<snipped>
> For
>> example, the MOST trivial question I can imagine is at what frequency is
>> a 10 cm quarter wave length transmission line resonant?
God, you're a fuckwit.
A phased array is an antenna having more than one driven element. The
desired radiation pattern is obtained by adjusting the current
magnitude and phase in each element. Ideally, we want to be able to
independently adjust the current magnitude and phase in each element
and also obtain a perfect impedance match to the transmission lines
carrying power to each element. It is nearly impossible to do this by
simply fanning out different length transmission lines from the common
feed point to the driven elements. However, a compromise can be
reached.
An antenna design is begun by defining a set of desired performance
features. This set may include gain, beamwidth, departure angle,
polarization, front-to-back ratio, front-to-side ratio, impedance and
pattern bandwidths, component stress (current, voltage, compression,
tension, shear), overall size and weight, feed-point impedance, etc.
Since many of the desired features interact and some may be improved
only at the expense of others, priorities must also be assigned to
these performance criteria. In other words you must weight your
criteria, and set upper and lower boundaries. Like most things in
life, antenna design is a set of compromises.
In order to efficiently optimize your design, it certainly helps to
understand how the antenna performance features interact on both the
quantitative and qualitative levels. For example, it is generally true
that there is a trade-off between gain and bandwidth. Sometimes a
slight improvement in gain is paid for by a major degradation in
bandwidth. Therefore you have to find a balance, and this depends on
the relative importance of each of the antenna's performance criteria.
Obviously if we are operating CW at a single frequency, we don't care
too much about bandwidth. If we are only operating in the SSB portion
of the 20 meter band, then we only care about antenna performance in
the upper half of the band. And so on.
Optimizing algorithms have been around for a long time, and can
readily be applied to antenna design problems. A formula is written to
create an error sum based on each of the weighted antenna performance
criteria. Various parameters in the antenna are adjusted until a
minimum error is found. This iterative process is both an art and a
science, and has a jargon all its own. There are brute-force methods
that may take a long time and never reach the best solution, and there
are "intelligent" algorithms that employ advanced mathematical
concepts, and converge quickly. Digital computers love these kinds of
tasks.
Since the outcome of such optimization is dependent on the number of
parameters that can be varied, the more the better (usually). Too many
knobs can get a human operator into deep water, whereas a computer
program seldom complains about these iterative exercises. Typical
high-gain amateur radio antennas consist of one driven element and
many parasitic elements. The input parameters to your typical
parasitic antenna design would therefore include element length,
diameter and spacing, height above ground, and perhaps some
transmission lines and other discrete components. If you also
introduce multiple RF sources, such that both the source current
magnitudes and phases are added to the adjustable parameter list, then
you increase the possibility of finding a better compromise between
all the desired performance features. In other words, for a given
field intensity maybe you can get twice the bandwidth from an array of
two driven elements compared to an array of one driven and one
parasitic element. Or perhaps you can get a certain gain from a driven
array that requires only half the volume of a conventional parasitic
array with the same gain.
And so this article will explore the physical inter-actions and
rules-of-thumb that apply when you are designing an antenna having
more than one driven element. Admittedly the complexity of the problem
increases exponentially as we add more knobs to the "box," but a human
operator will eventually develop a feel for the problem by simply
turning the cranks and observing what happens. Since the 1960's, the
"box" has often consisted simply of a method-of-moments antenna
analysis program. Some general rules will appear as you play with the
box, and if you read this article carefully, you will find some useful
short-cuts to the antenna design process. Rule number one: write
everything down in a notebook so you don't end up repeating yourself,
and enter enough detail so you can readily verify your results later.
Define a simple set of goals and try to stick by them.
The behavior of a single isolated antenna element, such as a dipole in
free space, is a simplified or reduced model of an actual antenna. In
reality the behavior of a dipole is influenced by the presence of the
earth, weather, support structures, transmission line, insulators,
etc. Often these influences are minor, but when an additional
radiating element is deliberately added to an antenna, major changes
occur in the first element. When both elements are physically aligned
and within a wavelength or so of each other, they are said to be
strongly coupled.
We can loosely tie everything together by observing the current in the
antenna elements, and remembering Ohm's Law. The electric field
intensity produced by an antenna is directly proportional to the
currents in that antenna. For a given power input to an antenna,
high-gain multi-element wire antennas have relatively high currents
compared to single-element antennas of comparable dimensions. This
higher gain is manifested as a decrease in the input resistance to the
antenna. For example, assume you have a 144 MHz half-wave dipole fed
at its center. You measure the input impedance and find it to be about
70 + j0 ohms. Then you add a second antenna element consisting simply
of a half-wavelength of wire in parallel with your driven element. As
you move this wire closer to your dipole, you will see the input
resistance to the dipole drop. For a spacing of 30 cm, the input
impedance becomes about 25 + j25 ohms and the field intensity
increases by about 3.6 dB in one direction compared to the dipole
alone, and decreases in the opposite direction. The parasitic wire
acts as a reflector at this spacing, but at a much closer spacing it
can act as a director and produce even more gain, albeit in the
opposite direction. For a spacing of 10 cm, the input impedance is
about 4 - j20 ohms, and the gain is about 4.0 dB. However, since the
currents are much higher and the input resistance much lower for this
close spacing, you can lose quite a bit of your input power in the
form of i2R losses, depending on the resistance of the wires. I
assumed copper for the gain figures cited; aluminum would yield a gain
of perhaps 3.9 dB, and steel would just about eat up all of our gain
for the 10 cm spacing.
You must never assume that maximum current means maximum gain. If we
were to narrow the spacing between the two antenna elements such that
the second element shorted out the driven element, then the input
resistance would approach zero, the current would get very high, but
the field would approach a theoretical minimum. And remember that real
wires and real insulators have losses, and the higher the currents in
these wires, and the higher the voltages across these insulators, the
more RF power will be lost as heat. Or worse, you may encounter
voltage breakdown, especially under wet conditions during modulation
peaks.
Let us also remember that the field produced by a wire depends on the
current distribution along that wire, and it is not just the maximum
current magnitude that defines the electric field intensity. In fact
if you have equal magnitude but opposite phase currents on a wire,
your total field at some locations can approach zero no matter how
large your currents are. The field at any point in space is in fact
the sum of the fields from the currents in all the antenna elements
delayed by the individual times each field takes to reach that point.
Because the current is not uniform over the length of each wire
element, it is useful to apply a little integral calculus to determine
the area under the current distribution curve in order to get an
accurate handle on the electric field produced by an antenna. This is
one reason why computer programs are so useful in the arena of antenna
analysis. They can integrate by brute force. Antennas may have very
complex shapes, and operate in very cluttered environments, so it is
nice to have a computer program that can explicitly incorporate many
of the physical details, thereby reducing the number of assumptions
and simplifications one has to make in order to create a practical
model.
In the world of antenna design, gain is traded off for just about
every other performance feature. Higher gain typically is paid for
with an increase in one or more of the following: antenna size,
weight, windage, current, voltage, bandwidth, feed complexity,
difficulty of impedance matching, importance of manufacturing
tolerances, etc. At one extreme, if you want your antenna to present a
resonant 50 ohms across several octaves, you may be better off
building a dummy load out of non-inductive resistors! At the other
extreme, you may end up with an antenna Q so high that when you try
amplitude modulating, the reflected power at the sidebands knocks you
off the air. Thus SSB may be more tolerant of bandwidth than AM.
It is possible to compensate for a narrow impedance bandwidth by
placing a special impedance transformation network between the antenna
and the transmission line, or between the common feed- point of a
phased antenna array and the transmitter. Power losses and voltage
stresses in such a broad-banding network become important
considerations, so the components tend to be large. However at maximum
legal ham radio power, such a network is sometimes warranted. Just
keep in mind that improving the impedance bandwidth of a phased array
does not necessarily mean that the pattern bandwidth has also been
improved. This article addresses adjustment of a phased array at one
frequency only, and does not investigate effects on bandwidth such
adjustments might cause.
Getting back to our analysis of the QST construction article1,
consider the case of two quarter-wave elements cut for the two- meter
band and spaced a quarter wavelength, each having four ground radials
bent downward at a 45 degree angle (Figure 1). If the phase of the
current in one element is 90 degrees out of phase with the other, then
the fields radiated from these elements are in phase in one direction,
and out of phase in the opposite direction. That is, the signal
reinforces in the beam direction and cancels out back. If the current
magnitudes are equal, the null out back goes to zero. In Figure 1, if
the left element's current phase is -90 degrees relative to the right
element's phase, then by the time the left element's electro-magnetic
wave arrives at the right element a quarter wavelength distant, its
overall delay is 180 degrees. So the signal from the left element
cancels that from the right element, and the pattern develops a null
to the right. Just the opposite occurs to the left bearing (Figure
2A). For other relative phases the pattern may have higher gain, but a
secondary lobe may appear out back, and the front-to-back ratio would
be compromised. Phasing of 135 degrees maximizes forward gain for the
given quarter wavelength spacing (Figure 2B).
The two vertical antenna elements are 19.2 inches long, and all
calculations in this article were done at 146.5 MHz. The elements are
spaced 19.2 inches, and the image-plane radials are 18 inches long.1
The ground is 30 feet below the feed-points of the elements. The
ground conductivity is 5 mS/m and the relative dielectric constant is
15. All wire diameters are 1/4 inch. The transmission lines are
lossless RG8, which has a surge impedance of 52 ohms and a velocity
factor of 66 percent. At 146.5 MHz a wavelength in free space is about
80 inches, but it is only 53 inches in RG8. By convention we assign
360 degrees of phase shift to a wavelength, so a quarter wavelength is
90 degrees. A piece of RG8 that is physically a quarter wavelength
long (in this case, 20 inches) actually has a phase shift of 90/.66 =
136 degrees, but only if the VSWR is 1.0 (more about this later). The
outer conductors of the RG8 were included in the moment-method antenna
model, and formed a vee shape beneath the ground radials. This
affected the pattern only slightly, perhaps 0.2 dB. The gain figures
cited in this article are for an elevation angle of one degree above
the horizon. See appendix for a typical vertical pattern.
There is some confusion about the sign of the phase shift across a
transmission line -- do we call this 20 inches of RG8 minus 136
degrees or plus 136 degrees? In the commercial broadcast industry most
engineers assign a minus sign to the phase shift across a transmission
line, and this is in keeping with the concept of "delay." That is, the
arrival of the RF energy at the end of the line is delayed by 136
degrees in this case. And if that same energy were traveling through
20 inches of space, it would only be delayed by 90 degrees. If we were
to model this 20 inch length of transmission line as a tee network, it
would have a capacitor in its shunt leg and identical input and output
inductors in its series arms. If we chose a pi network model, it would
have identical capacitors in the shunt input and output arms, and a
coil in the series arm.
I think some of the confusion about the sign convention of phase shift
stems from Circuits 101, where a current entering an inductor is said
to lag the voltage applied to that inductor by 90 degrees, and the
current entering a capacitor is said to lead the voltage across that
capacitor by 90 degrees. The current in the inductor is defined as
V/jX, so its phase shift is -90 degrees relative to the applied
voltage, or -jV/X. I suppose it all goes back to the way we plot
waveforms against a time axis. If time increases from left to right on
the graph, then the inductor current sinusoid starts 90 degrees later,
which is to the right of the voltage sinusoid. And in a Cartesian
coordinate system we typically assign positive values to the right of
the vertical axis, and negative values to the left, which tends to
contradict the value of -90 degrees we just defined on the time axis.
Again, this is just convention, and if you are consistent with
whatever convention you choose, then your results will be okay. Above
all, remember that we are interested in comparing one current with
another current, not with a voltage.
On the outer ring of a Smith chart is a legend stating which direction
is "towards the generator." When you move in this direction
(clockwise) on the Smith chart, you are moving away from the load,
which in the case of our feeder lines is away from the base of the
antenna elements. Keep this in mind, and everything should work out
fine. To check your math, make a rough plot of your impedance results
on the Smith chart to see if everything makes sense. Note that the
phase shift around the complete circumference of a Smith chart is 180
degrees, not 360 degrees.
So the practical question becomes, how does one obtain equal current
magnitudes and a relative phase of 90 to 135 degrees in the two
antenna elements? Perhaps the first approach that comes to mind is to
feed the two elements with different lengths of transmission line, one
that is a quarter wavelength longer than the other (Figure 5).
However, on closer inspection, this technique is flawed because it
assumes that the transmission lines are terminated in their
characteristic impedance. You see, the current phase shift through a
transmission line is dependent on its load impedance. And the
feed-point "operating" impedances of the two elements in our array are
not equal to each other, nor are they equal to their individual or
"self" impedances. This is caused by the electro-magnetic coupling
between the two elements. They are close enough physically that they
influence each other very significantly. So every time we change the
length of one transmission line, the mismatch on both lines changes,
the relative element currents change, etc. In fact, just about
everything interacts in a multi-element antenna. You can't make a
change in one element without influencing the others.
We can get a handle on the amount of coupling and its exact impedance
effects by using the following tee-network model (Figure 3). Think of
this as a transformer model, where the self-inductance of the primary
and the secondary are the same in this case (the two antenna elements
are the same), and the mutual inductance between transformer windings
is an analog of the coupling between the two elements in our array.
Except in the world of antennas the resistance is more significant, so
we refer to self and mutual impedance, rather than inductance. Of
course, the mutual impedance between antenna elements can also be
capacitive.
Spank...spank...spank...
w00f
>Le Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:31:13 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> ... and it drives him _up the wall_ !!!
>>>
>>> Bwaaaaaahahahahahaaa !!!!
>
>{ poor, 'billybobbish' primary-two insult snipped }
>
>> Fortunately my education provided me the understanding that English is a
>> rich language, that Antarctica is a Continent, and that the Balkans are in
>> Europe (Humm.. in fact the OED confirms that, by defining 'Balkan' to
>> be "with allusion to the relations (often characterized by threatened
>> hostilities) of the Balkan states to each other or to the rest of Europe..."
>> 'rest of Europe' 'rest of Europe' 'rest of Europe' Got it yet?
>
>Is that the same 'education' that prevents you knowing the difference
>between 'insure' and 'ensure' ?
>
>{ puerile insistence on 'typo's' (sic) snipped }
>
>LOL ... and the rest just confirm that you've now gone from 'being
>spanked', to 'autospanking' ... the perl script is out of control ...
>the function that calls /usr/libexec/spank is caught in a loop ...
>
>> Further, you always seem to be concentrating on what you consider your
>> particular area of 'expertise' (sic). Which has nothing to do with the DP.
>> And you are getting beat at your 'own game.' As I've done with dirt and
>> his 'legal expertise.' If I were to ask you one of the most simple questions
>> available in my expertise you would be totally at a loss for even an
>> understanding of what I mean, or how to approach such a problem. For
>> example, the MOST trivial question I can imagine is at what frequency is
>> a 10 cm quarter wave length transmission line resonant? I am certain
>> you look at this question with a look of bewilderment on your face, and
>> turn to some colleague for assistance.
>
>No, I just laugh, and realise (not for the first time) that being reminded
>that you do not have a classical education, stings you. Like the little
>boy who gets mocked in the playground, and who immediately challenges his
>oppressors to arm wrestle.
>
>LOL ... and yet more LOL ... I'm sitting here rocking back on my seat. If
>the question you asked really is 'knowledge' that you have, then bravo. I
>certainly don't know the answer to your question, but then the mere fact
>that you had to ask it, to counter an observation that your education is
>lacking, causes me _no end_ of amusement.
>
>*guffaw* ... and this is what Jigsaw calls 'PV 1, Desi 0' ? I should have
>read this post before responding to Jig. Then again, I might have been
>laughing too much to respond to him.
>
>ROTFLMAO !!!!!!
>
>{ remainder of PV 'showing his dick' snipped }
Indeed, PV _is_ stung by his lack of a classical education. The simple
fact that most of his day is spent posting to this newsgroup, which
deals with such academic issues illustrates how he seeks expertise in
a field removed from the vocational path his life sadly took.
His question is, of course, nonsensical and pointless. I do not know,
for example, what materials are essential in the welding process, or
which type of wood makes the best toilet seat.
Such deficiencies in my knowledge base, however, do not affect one
little bit my ability to engage in academic discussion of the sort
which is carried on here.
PV's lack of understanding on matters as diverse as grammar, proper
placement of apostrophes, the law, basic reading and even evidence
dissemination techniques _does_, however, impede his prowess in such
discussions - causing him to make some quite amazingly _wrong_
statements. I can insue [sic] you of that. There are no mitigating
circumstances, and it is clear from his attempt to be learned that
this is his intent [sic].
w00f
w00f
ROTFLMAO. See ...
http://www.qsl.net/km5kg/array.htm
which is your 'cut-and-paste' argument.
Your post is simply a demonstration of how you handle all the
arguments here. 'Meaningless drivel' and plagiarism in respect to the very
basic question which you still could not answer, even while clipping
an article on the web that has no relationship to that fundamental, almost
kindergarten level question. There is no question that you have not
the slightest understanding of either the article or the question.
The answer, sport, is in MHz. Simply a three-digit numeric answer will
suffice. But you are unable to provide it. And my point was NOT to
prove how clever I am... but how stupid DESMOND is. And how
limited his presumed 'knowledge' is. While you seem intent on proving
that same thing of yourself, as well.
Unless you can quickly provide the answer, I assume you do not know
and you will have to try and find it from someone else.
PV
> w00f
>
>Le Sat, 13 Jul 2002 20:21:54 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
écrit :
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> Spank...spank...spank...
>
>> ROTFLMAO. See ...
>> http://www.qsl.net/km5kg/array.htm
>> which is your 'cut-and-paste' argument.
>
>Which was in itself to demonstrate that the 'question' you asked, could
>(and quite possibly was) found on the web, too.
Accept the challenge Desi. If PV found the question on a web site, then
shouldn't the answer also be there?
William Robert
> { puerile insistence on 'typo's' (sic) snipped }
>
> LOL ... and the rest just confirm that you've now gone from 'being
> spanked', to 'autospanking' ... the perl script is out of control ...
> the function that calls /usr/libexec/spank is caught in a loop ...
>
As usual... DESMOND really doesn't say anything. And feels he
may appear more knowledgeable by using the term 'perl script' and a
pseudo-Unix command to demonstrate his pseudo-intellect. How typical.
Has anyone ever been obsessive enough to count the number of times
he has concluded that his remarking 'perl script' has somehow proved
his argument? Does anyone care... since it is such a silly remark to
begin with, and everyone knows it doesn't mean squat?
> > Further, you always seem to be concentrating on what you consider your
> > particular area of 'expertise' (sic). Which has nothing to do with the DP.
> > And you are getting beat at your 'own game.' As I've done with dirt and
> > his 'legal expertise.' If I were to ask you one of the most simple questions
> > available in my expertise you would be totally at a loss for even an
> > understanding of what I mean, or how to approach such a problem. For
> > example, the MOST trivial question I can imagine is at what frequency is
> > a 10 cm quarter wave length transmission line resonant? I am certain
> > you look at this question with a look of bewilderment on your face, and
> > turn to some colleague for assistance.
>
> No, I just laugh, and realise (not for the first time) that being reminded
> that you do not have a classical education, stings you. Like the little
> boy who gets mocked in the playground, and who immediately challenges his
> oppressors to arm wrestle.
>
Your claim to having anything remotely resembling 'classical' about
what you learned in your education is just silly posturing, and pathetic
preening. It is disproved by examples you provide right here. In the
various comments you've made here. Certainly a 'classical' education
would confirm that the Balkans are in Europe. And a literal ton of
those ACTUALLY having a 'classical education' have confirmed that
the dead can be honored, using those exact words.
> LOL ... and yet more LOL ... I'm sitting here rocking back on my seat. If
> the question you asked really is 'knowledge' that you have, then bravo. I
> certainly don't know the answer to your question, but then the mere fact
> that you had to ask it, to counter an observation that your education is
> lacking, causes me _no end_ of amusement.
>
No, sport. It was meant to demonstrate the gaps in your education,
since the answer, as I stated is absurdly simple if we assume theoretical
computations. I hoped to avoid making it complex in any way. And
even provided you the path to find the answer. Simply put... you're
stupid. And have a huge hole in what you presume is your education.
Classical or otherwise. I must say I am astounded by your claim to
hold the same qualifications as dirt in possessing a 'classical
education,' since the gaping holes in his education are so evident
to me as well. And your pathetic whining that I lack such an education,
simply demonstrates some of the embarrassment you hold as to
the failures of your own education. That you would hope to cover up by
comparing yours with everyone. Your pedantic persona here certainly
provides an example for what I mean. It fills you with a great sense
of achievement to remark on 'insure' and 'ensure,' while hoping to hide
the flaws that otherwise exist in your 'intellect.' I'm not trying to be
rude here. But your educational achievements are very insignificant in
having raised your 'intellect,' as demonstrated by how little you have
learned. Simply put, more education never put more brains in a person's
head then they had to begin with... Clearly nature short-changed you.
And you've never come to grips with that reality.
<rest of pathetic whining about jigsaw's remark clipped>
Ummm... potty mouth admits he doesn't have a clue as to the answer or
even the question. Therefore, I rest my case.
DESMOND will again revert to his status as the resident pedantic, since
that is his only weapon, with logic not forming any part of his arsenal of
thought.
>
> ROTFLMAO !!!!
Indeed I am doing so.
PV
Le Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:28:04 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
{ snip }
>> Is that the same 'education' that prevents you knowing the difference
>> between 'insure' and 'ensure' ?
> Depending on the context in which used, there is often no difference.
*chuckle*
I just laugh, and laugh, and laugh at you, man. Laugh at your claims not
to take me seriously, when you do precious little else on this newsgroup
but respond to me and dirt. Laugh at your using as 'proof' either of
my 'stupidity', or your 'intelligence', my inability to answer a question
based on (I've literally forgotten the question, it was so silly) the
(what was it, again ?) frequency of light (cue PV once more claiming
victory, as that wasn't the question ... like I give a fuck). Most of
all, I laugh at how easily I can wind you up, and you jump like a lapdog,
whilst at the same time claiming victory, basking in the praise of your
sycophants, and accusing them of being in 'The Gang' when they don't
come up 'with the goods'.
Like I say, I could post a few questions here about French grammar, about
ealry 20th-century French feminist literature, about French law, none of
which you could answer without a _lot_ of time, surfing. Even your French
wife (if she exists) would have a hard time answering them.
Really, that's what you just don't seem to get.
<fx: taps index and middle finger hard against temple>
<fx: speaks slowly>
I am taking the piss, PV.
And you're there, like a faithful little Jack Russell, to answer every
one of my posts, to copy and paste from the _OED_ or the web, to pass
off the works as your own, and to be laughed at.
L-o-r-d, if only you could _see_ it !!!
'Jump, boy !! Jump !!'
Ha! Ha! Ha!
Really, I am laughing out loud right now. I can hear teenagers in
the street, letting off firecrackers, I can hear the 'whirr' of my
server, I can hear the fridge gently hum, my neighbour has just slammed
his door ... but mainly, I can hear my own wild cackles ...
I've said it a million times here: nothing that happens on AADP can
affect the world at large. I troll you, I take the piss, I laugh at
you; and you, your sense of humour surgically removed at birth, come
back for more, telling me how I misspelt 'Antarctica', and then
claiming to have 'spanked' me. Indeed, I just went back into AADP
to see if there were new posts, and saved this post in the directory
I use for postponed articles ... now, what did I call it ?
des...@lievre.voute.net % ls -l ~/usenet/postponed_articles
total 18
-rw------- 1 desmond voute 5801 Jun 5 21:41 PV
-rw------- 1 desmond voute 7979 Jul 13 22:08 pisstake
-rw------- 1 desmond voute 3387 Jun 24 10:21 richard_ethnic
LOL ...
I've exchanged e-mails with both retentionists and aboltionists on this
group, and one of the most 'frequently asked' questions (not by either
of your two sycophants, rest assured) is, 'How do you get him to
respond like that ?'
You know, much as you don't realise it, the best thing you could do on
here, would be to killfile my posts. Not because I 'win' in our little
exchanges, as I don't believe that usenet in general, or this
newsgroup in particular, is about 'winning', or 'losing', and I have no
interest in either, for reasons which I have previously stated. No, you
should killfile me, because you are obviously incapable of _not_
responding to me. I push your buttons so easily, and so well, that
you can't help but respond. Then, everyone but your two sycophants,
rocks back on his heels, and *guffaws*.
> You will find that the OED provides one of the definitions for 'insure' as
> follows -- "6. To make say, to secure, to guarantee (against, from): =
> ASSURE v. 1c, ENSURE v. 6. But there is most certainly a difference
> as to what continent the Balkans is in.
Face it, PV : you used the word out of context. Accept your
spanking, put some ointment on your 'ass' (sic), and move on.
>> { puerile insistence on 'typo's' (sic) snipped }
>>
>> LOL ... and the rest just confirm that you've now gone from 'being
>> spanked', to 'autospanking' ... the perl script is out of control ...
>> the function that calls /usr/libexec/spank is caught in a loop ...
> As usual... DESMOND really doesn't say anything. And feels he
> may appear more knowledgeable by using the term 'perl script' and a
> pseudo-Unix command to demonstrate his pseudo-intellect. How typical.
> Has anyone ever been obsessive enough to count the number of times
> he has concluded that his remarking 'perl script' has somehow proved
> his argument? Does anyone care...
... and this is it : no ... no one cares, but you !!!
Again, a hefty bout of laughing ensues ... I change tracks on my Laura
Pausini CD ... the One comes out of the bedroom ... when are you coming to
bed ? ... j'arrive, mon Amour ... but oh, this is fun ...
> since it is such a silly remark to
> begin with, and everyone knows it doesn't mean squat?
No, everyone who knows the first thing about UNIX (and I'm a long way
from being an expert ... I reckon QZD 'whups [sic] my ass [sic]' when
it comes to UNIX), says, 'Oh ... OK.'
But you don't. Because for all your bravado about trolling, about _not_
being a 'pseudo-intellectual' ... about 'spanking' me and dirt ... none
of it stops your massive inferiority complex from saying, 'I don't know
what he's talking about ... he's trying to put me down !!'
And yet again ... ho! Ho! Ho
{ snip }
> Your claim to having anything remotely resembling 'classical' about
> what you learned in your education is just silly posturing, and pathetic
> preening.
You're excelling yourself, PV ... _this_ is what John calls 'more than a
match' ? *snort* ...
> It is disproved by examples you provide right here. In the
> various comments you've made here. Certainly a 'classical' education
> would confirm that the Balkans are in Europe. And a literal ton of
> those ACTUALLY having a 'classical education' have confirmed that
> the dead can be honored, using those exact words.
The above paragraph could have been snipped, yet it will show to all the
world that you really don't even know what 'classical' means. You probably,
like most of those denied a proper university education, think that anything
before Stravinsky, is 'classical music'. You probably equate 'classical'
with 'old'.
You're now going to copy and paste from your _OED_ CD-ROM, the definition
of 'classical'. Save your wrist tendons. I know what the word means. I
also know what a classical education entails. It certainly doesn't
necessarily (although it can) entail 'knowing' European geography. Once
again, your shortcomings are there for all to see.
>> LOL ... and yet more LOL ... I'm sitting here rocking back on my seat. If
>> the question you asked really is 'knowledge' that you have, then bravo. I
>> certainly don't know the answer to your question, but then the mere fact
>> that you had to ask it, to counter an observation that your education is
>> lacking, causes me _no end_ of amusement.
> No, sport. It was meant to demonstrate the gaps in your education,
Oh, dear me. I don't know the frequency of a wave of whatever (what was
the question again ..? LOL ...). That must mean that I don't have a
classical education. But hang on ... you didn't have a classical education,
and you _do_ know it (or know how to find it on a Physics for Fuckwits
website). Does not compute ... / was not cleanly unmounted ... syncing
disks ... 1 ... 2 ... 3 ... giving up .. help! Kernel panic ....
(damn, there I go, showing off again ...)
<fx: winks at QZD>
> since the answer, as I stated is absurdly simple if we assume theoretical
> computations. I hoped to avoid making it complex in any way. And
> even provided you the path to find the answer. Simply put... you're
> stupid. And have a huge hole in what you presume is your education.
ROTFLMAO !!!!
LOL ... this is just, like, manna from heaven ... anyway, She is
becoming impatient. I go to melt into Her arms.
Catch you all tomorrow.
Every post from DESMOND in his pathetic and servile mechanical
responses to dirt, seems to demonstrate the true meaning of a
suck-up, since he adds nothing new, except a sycophantic
response in adoration of his idol.
PV
>LOL ... this is just, like, manna from heaven ... anyway, She is
>becoming impatient. I go to melt into Her arms.
>Catch you all tomorrow.
Desi, I see you were able to find a can of Fix-A-Flat.
Now you have something to look forward to. Enjoy!
William Robert
>Subject: Re: I Throw In the Towel ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 22:50:19 +0000
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
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That from the guy who said 'James Boswell??? Who's he?'
> I referred to PV recently as a 'pseudo-intellectual'. If any further
> proof that he _is_ one, were needed, it was his retort that he was
> perhaps using words that were 'too big' for me to understand.
>
I think you often become confused by the 'little one's' as well.
It's not that you don't recognize them. It's that's the connection
to your persona cannot be made. You have this mental block,
ego driven, which prevents any argument from seeping into your
brain. You're like a run-away freight train. Heavily laden with
the goods, but totally out of control. The transitive verb 'honor,'
for example, gave you some problems. The 'meaning' was on
the train, but the train was out of control. This is the very
definition of a 'pseudo-intellectual.' One who REFUSES to
accept that others, much more clever than he is, have defined
the meaning better than he can EVER do. And I provided a
huge number of examples of that greater thinking. It is your
greatest flaw, DESMOND. The gates are down, the lights
are flashing, the train is roaring down the track...but there ain't
a damn bit of thinking behind driving that train of yours.
> Another LOL was provoked by that one.
>
Assuming that to mean you consider LOL to be an intellectual
answer... as your bwaahhhhhaa. No wonder I claim you are
a 'pseudo-intellectual.'
> We've been here before. I am a native British English speaker, even
> although I no longer use the language on a day-to-day basis. My typos
> and _faux pas_ in English cause me no shame, as I am (by my own
> admission) 'losing' my English.
You make up for it by pedantically posting remarks on those
same faults when they are demonstrated by others. That is what
should cause you shame, DESMOND. Not that YOU make mistakes,
but that you are so intolerant of others. Intolerant to the point of an
obsession. And it demonstrates that you use your intolerance
as a shield to hide what you now admit are your own flaws.
Clearly it has been demonstrated that when pressed as to a
logical or factual argument, you find that you must often fall
back on that intolerance, and search deep for the slightest flaw,
which you hope to pedantically use as a weapon in an argument
you cannot otherwise win. Pedantry is part of 'pseudo-intellectualism.'
You need help, son.
> In speech, I frequently have to pause,
> and even have to ask other English speakers, 'Is that how you say it in
> English ..?' In short, I don't give a shit about English. I will never
> 'lose' it to the extent that I can't make myself understood, but 95%
> of my time is devoted to speaking, thinking in, and writing in French.
>
Seems as if you're building up to an admission that you actually are
a pseudo-intellectual. Read my last comment. If it bothers you so
little in YOUR respect, why does it bother you so much in respect
to OTHERS? We can only presume that you are less tolerant of
others than you are of yourself. Which doesn't say much of anything
positive about your persona. Of course, no one here (other than
dirt) ever has said anything positive about your persona, which might
be explained by this intolerance I speak of.
> However, the chances that an American who is not classically educated,
> could use words that I cannot understand, is practically nil. So when
> I call such an American a 'pseudo-intellectual', it doesn't mean, 'You're
> using words that I don't understand,' but, 'You're using words that no
> native British English speaker would use, as they are out of context.' In
> other words, 'You are using those words incorrectly.'
>
Actually, when those words are EXPLAINED to you, as being of a
colloquial or slang nature, you don't ACCEPT that fact. Take for
example 'lowrider,' or 'defense' (which is of course an acceptable spelling),
or 'insure (in your pathetic attempts to find 'something,' however slight
to demonstrate just how pedantic you can be). That's the problem.
Like Earl, you are a pompous, arrogant, contemptuous, egotistical,
insolent and overbearing ass. Perhaps it's something in the Paris air.
Plus, of course, your most egregious fault is that you LIE. Hardly any
'factual' statement you make cannot be shown to be a lie. Your
intolerance, your insolence, and your lies form the triad that provide
the necessary nails in the coffin of your deceit.
> That point seems to have escaped our 'pseudo-intellectual'.
>
Seeing as how the only point is that YOU are assuming to be an
intellectual right here and now, we can only question YOUR statement.
Since I assume nothing. I make no claim, as you, as to any
exceptional intellectual prowess on my part. But YOU do....
CONSTANTLY. As you do in this very post. Thus, I am simply
trying to verify YOUR claim to such 'intellectual prowess.' The
problem given was trivial, and was not meant to show any special
abilities on my part, but to test yours. And since you had claimed
some 'education' in physics, I didn't think it would be a problem. It
was actually 10th grade level, with any kind of 'education.' You
simply cannot imagine HOW trivial that problem was, assuming
it was being attacked on a theoretical, rather than practical (which
creates problems) level. That's why I needed to test the limits which
might be found among your claims. And do not for one moment
claim that Science (upon which the trivial problem is based) is
NOT an intellectual pursuit. That's simply not true, and you know
it. One can clearly show that SAYING 'Science is not an intellectual
pursuit' is ITSELF a demonstration of 'pseudo-intellectualism.'
Mathematics, on which science is largely based, is among the highest
intellectual pursuits (probably THE highest, in my view at least)
devised by our species, since we assume that communication in a
primitive sense is not especially intellectual, as we all learn to
speak before we do much else, and we recognize that mathematics
intends to describe our world in a much more sophisticated and
precise style than the spoken language, which often leaves much
to individual interpretation (how well we've seen you demonstrate
that). Sadly enough, to your great disgrace, your intellectual
limitations were easily detected. And thus, we arrive at the conclusion
in respect to your claim of any intellectual capacity, that it is
proven limited and thus must be referred to as 'pseudo-intellectualism.'
But thanks for straightening that out for us.
> > His question is, of course, nonsensical and pointless. I do not know,
> > for example, what materials are essential in the welding process, or
> > which type of wood makes the best toilet seat.
>
> Nor, do I suspect, does PV. However, John and Jigsaw can now feel
> very, very silly for their unquestioning and sycophantic support of
> him.
>
That's because they now see you in the true light of your intellectual
limitations, which was my point. Only dirt will form what can be
termed sycophantic support. And that will be that huge sucking
sound we hear from across the channel as both of you engage
in f**king that proverbial 'pseudo-intellectual' football. Both
intolerant of others, but very tolerant of each others limitations.
A marriage blessed by the Devil.
> > Such deficiencies in my knowledge base, however, do not affect one
> > little bit my ability to engage in academic discussion of the sort
> > which is carried on here.
>
> Agreed.
ROTFLMAO. Did ANYONE expect DESMOND to say ANYTHING
other than that? I did... I expected him to say 'APPLAUSE' as he
sucked up to dirt even harder, in search of 'a friend.'
>
> > PV's lack of understanding on matters as diverse as grammar, proper
> > placement of apostrophes, the law, basic reading and even evidence
> > dissemination techniques _does_, however, impede his prowess in such
> > discussions - causing him to make some quite amazingly _wrong_
> > statements. I can insue [sic] you of that. There are no mitigating
> > circumstances, and it is clear from his attempt to be learned that
> > this is his intent [sic].
>
> The irony (which is something you left out of the above list) is
> that he would probably get a good deal more 'understanding' on the
> group, if he didn't _try_ to be an intellectual. Jigsaw tears the
> English language to shreds in his post, but doesn't try to be what
> he is not. He thus gets cut a lot of slack.
>
But you're wrong. I don't try to be an 'intellectual.' I am well aware
of my limitations in that respect. What troubles me is that neither
you nor dirt accept ANY limitations to your own intellectual capacity.
And you both are intolerant of the limitations of others which most
often are less than your own. That type behavior has created more
misery for our species than a great number of things that are seen
as worse. Bigotry stems from 'pseudo-intellectualism.' Racism
stems from 'pseudo-intellectualism.' Hate as a emotion of our
species stems from 'pseudo-intellectualism.' And intolerance
stems from 'pseudo-intellectualism.'
Clearly your use of the word 'deathies' is PROOF of what I speak.
Can you justify your use of that word in an 'intellectual' sense?
Not on your life... it's very use implies bigotry and hate. Can you
justify calling someone a pedophile, when they have upset your delicate
stomach, in an intellectual sense? And I've already shown that you,
if not a racist, do not understand that word in an intellectual sense.
> PV isn't 'intelligent', but tries to appear as if he were (or 'was',
> to use his 'level' of language). It exposes him to no end of
> ridicule.
>
> As will his reply to this.
>
I can well expect that your reply will (or 'were,' to use your level
of language - the comma goes inside BTW) be to either ignore it,
and begin an oblique attack somewhere else, while remarking to
dirt how great he is, so he can remark how great you are; or
you will simply respond with a silly remark that you, and only you,
consider 'ironic.'
PV
Still red-faced from the last thrashing I gave you, dirt? Ah humm...
'this newsgroup, which deals with such academic issues'!!!! The issue
of the DP is a social issues, dipshit! There is no more of an English
academic issue than the moon walk, to the argument in respect
to the DP. One of the basic requirements in examining our
social structure is the ability to think logically. The 'academic'
world you come from provides very little training in that regard.
In fact, you are taught almost to think 'illogically.' Why do you
think so many people wish to make anchors of your type? And the
clear point is that someone who pedantically believes they have
proved an argument based on remarking on 'insure' and 'ensure,'
or 'only the memory of the dead can be honored,' or 'the Balkans
are not in Europe,' is not thinking logically. If they can claim that
form of argument gives them some 'edge,' then we might as well
look to rocket scientists to answer the DP question for us. Earl
would love that. I was simply demonstrating the 'intellectual' limits
of DESMOND. And you joined in gleefully to demonstrate and
even admit YOUR 'intellectual' limits. Good boy. Red-faced and all.
> His question is, of course, nonsensical and pointless. I do not know,
> for example, what materials are essential in the welding process, or
> which type of wood makes the best toilet seat.
Nor do nonsensical and pointless pedantic comments have anything
to do with the DP. This was my argument, but as usual, it zoomed
right over your head, and you began sucking up to DESMOND.
> Such deficiencies in my knowledge base, however, do not affect one
> little bit my ability to engage in academic discussion of the sort
> which is carried on here.
>
ROTFLMAO. Could you elaborate on when you've ever engaged in
anything except dreaming of your Mother?
> PV's lack of understanding on matters as diverse as grammar, proper
> placement of apostrophes, the law, basic reading and even evidence
> dissemination techniques _does_, however, impede his prowess in such
> discussions - causing him to make some quite amazingly _wrong_
> statements. I can insue [sic] you of that. There are no mitigating
> circumstances, and it is clear from his attempt to be learned that
> this is his intent [sic].
>
ROTFLMAO. I have tried very hard to IGNORE your many trivial
mistakes here, dirt. Simply because they are trivial. But 'suprise' [sic],
your many 'indescretions' [sic] only exist for 'watever' [sic]. We should never
give up our 'sovreignty' [sic], because that would be 'unenforcable' [sic].
Unless it were 'incorperated' [sic] into law. Of course, we could always
have 'reneiged' [sic]. And we can be 'absolutly' [sic] sure of our 'abiity' [sic]
to become 'detatched' [sic] and 'siingle' [sic]. That's assuming we have
an 'independant' [sic] view, which is 'essentailly' [sic] not always a true
'cocept' [sic], and we would be 'self-indulgant' [sic] to think so. Such
an 'assetion' [sic]; although 'humourous' [sic] sometimes, is 'teririble'
[sic] and 'unsuprising' [sic].
Those are only a FEW of YOUR mistakes, which are etched forever
in google (you not having the foresight which DESMOND has demonstrated).
Hardly more than a small sampling considering the great number of others
that I have ignored, and encompassing only a small part of the time frame
of our posting history. And many made more than one time, such as
'surprising' [sic] which took you some time in taking insults before you
began using a spell-checker. And make no mistake... everyone knows
you now do, since you have been 1000% more careful since last year.
Plus I remember your 'argument' that 'boor' was not a word. So don't
tell me any crap about your 'academic credentials.' Because that
'classical education' phrase that you threw out when you first came
here, has created egg on your face a great number of times. ROTLFMAO.
You are most certainly seen as the 'class clown' to everyone, except
for the one that I keep hearing this loud sucking sound coming from
across the channel. Need I remind you of James Boswell? Your
claim that Russia would intervene in Afghanistan? Your foolish claim
that 'defense' is the OPPOSITE of 'protection'? Your silly claim that
cocaine is not addictive?Your complete and total destruction in an area
you claim 'expertise,' as to a 'mitigating circumstance'? Your argument
as to 'society self-defense,' which is demolished by so many clear
examples (including the U.N.) of the acceptance of such a concept?
Your argument that if someone says and believes that 'the DP is
murder,' that it can make it so? Your most stupid argument that
society has NO self? You always did have trouble separating fact from
fantasy.
So stop sniveling, you silly cry-baby. In a combat situation your
Commanding Officer would be 'bitch slapping' you a few times
and screaming in your face for you to act like a man and quit your
whining. You're intellectually-challenged, accept it. And your
presumed 'academic' credentials don't mean squat.
PV
> w00f
Funny he was unable to find THAT, while simply trying to impress with
more 'meaningless drivel.' You do know what that is, don't you? Having
dispensed it so often here.
> { snip }
>
> > The answer, sport, is in MHz. Simply a three-digit numeric answer will
> > suffice. But you are unable to provide it. And my point was NOT to
> > prove how clever I am... but how stupid DESMOND is.
>
> Oh, and that one got another *guffaw* which might well make the neighbours
> knock on the door, and ask if I'm OK ...
>
> I could quite easily post a plethora of questions about _my_ area of
> 'expertise', which would keep you and your French wife (if she even
> exists) busy for a good few days.
>
And it would prove an exercise in futility since this is not a 'my dick is
bigger than your dick,' argument. Although you believe ALL arguments
are that . This is an argument to demonstrate that your 'intellect' is
limited. Not MINE. Since I did not make the presumption that mine
wasn't. While you constantly presume yours IS NOT 'limited' to the
extent that you feel it reasonable to bombard others with your intolerant
behavior toward trivial arguments, your petty comments and the
frequent lies with which you flood this group. Having failed at creating a
group that you might 'moderate' and direct as you see fit, you now
are intent (as dirt is as well) in creating as much chaos in this group
as possible, with various personal attacks having nothing to do with the
DP toward specific collective entities and individual posters. It's a form
of bigotry when you do so in respect to such collective entities such as
the U.S. and those who support the DP as a collection of humans. It
demonstrates that you lack a REAL argument. Insulting a SPECIFIC
poster in respect to his/her intelligence is fair game if you believe that
intelligence is placed in question with their comment. And that's what
I've done with you. And 'reasonable' snipping is permitted. But that has
nothing to do with the horrendous meanness you display toward the
collection of ALL posters, or the collective national identity of a group
of posters or some particular posters. I find it necessary to not
accept it when you try and direct it toward me. And you well know
I've made you look rather stupid. Especially lately in your 'memory'
argument, and in this thread. All of your wiggling denials aside.
> That I'm not going to, doesn't mean I can't. It just means that
> unlike you, I have nothing to prove.
>
You may not think so. But if you have 'nothing to prove,' what is
your claim to 'intellectual' superiority? Simply saying it, isn't
enough. And you've certainly SAID it... if not in those exact
words, in the presentation of your posts.
> { snip }
>
> > Unless you can quickly provide the answer, I assume you do not know
> > and you will have to try and find it from someone else.
>
> Go on, PV ... challenge him to arm wrestle ... you know you want to ...
>
> R-O-T-F-L-M-A-O !!!!
>
As usual, you've missed the point completely. It is that your pedantic
arguments hold as little validity to the DP as my question. You presume
that you may use this useless 'pseudo-intellectual' knowledge and try
to intimidate others. And clearly I showed that your knowledge IS
a form of 'pseudo-intellectualism.' And it wounded you deeply. Otherwise,
you would not be going ballistic about it, as you most certainly are.
Poor, poor pitiful DESMOND. PV beat up on you again today.
ROTFLMAO... Don't make excuses for you being a vacant-eyed moron.
You're actually so dense that light bends around you, and it's not my
fault that you're simply catagenesis in action. Hide from what you
don't understand, and ridicule it. Isn't that the behavior we saw in
the Inquisition? The 'Dark Ages'?? All you really have demonstrated
is exactly how shallow your 'intellect' is, and shown that you are what
you fear being the most... a pseudo-intellectual.' Certainly YOU
take me VERY seriously. Just look at how you've tried desperately to
gain some support from others in this regard. You look more stupid
with every post, and your ego prevents you from stopping. While
YOUR argument is -- it's 'ensure,' not 'insure.' Now how silly is THAT?
> Most of
> all, I laugh at how easily I can wind you up, and you jump like a lapdog,
> whilst at the same time claiming victory, basking in the praise of your
> sycophants, and accusing them of being in 'The Gang' when they don't
> come up 'with the goods'.
>
Looks like you're describing your own behavior here. Just look at the
subject of this thread. It started with YOU giving all those excuses why
you no longer considered me worth your time. Yet here you are, many
posts later. So... WHO has WOUND WHO up??? I'd say I've been the one
winding, and you've been the one coming unglued at the seams. But
I'm having a blast. Come on, DESMOND... just a three digit number.
> Like I say, I could post a few questions here about French grammar, about
> ealry 20th-century French feminist literature, about French law, none of
> which you could answer without a _lot_ of time, surfing. Even your French
> wife (if she exists) would have a hard time answering them.
>
Proving my point, sport. None of it has squat to do with the DP. You
tried to presume it DID. I demonstrated that if you felt your 'expertise'
did, then I wished to see the breadth and depth of that expertise. I came,
I saw, I conquered. It's narrow and shallow, which was my point. It
has nothing to do with the DP. So stop harping on your 'expertise,'
and start examining the issues from a logical, moral and social standpoint
instead of that pedantic crap which proves NOTHING. Just as my question
proves NOTHING (except for the fact that it requires some logical thought),
in respect to the DP. And 'French Feminist Literature???' I think I'm
going to bust a gut laughing. Any particular century as your 'major'????
I once (before I knew this was your area of 'expertise') made a joke about
13th Century Feminist Literature (all of which could probably be kept in
a shoebox). I never really thought anyone TOOK such a subject as their
major. I mean 'Mongolian basket weaving' I can understand, but 'French
Feminist Literature.' Who IS there besides de Beauvoir? Gimme a break...
I'm still laughing. Clearly, I could post a few questions about Italian
grammar, which was my minor. Plus being a Russian/Polack raised in
an Italian neighborhood gave me some added incentive to learn that language
very quickly or die at an early age. I am quite certain my questions could
be answered less quickly by you, then yours by me. But when will you
understand that I am not in a 'my dick is bigger than your dick,'
argument here (although mine IS certainly bigger)? My argument is as
to your behavior here. You need to STOP being so pedantic, and believing
your arguments can be supported through such pedantic behavior. And
you have to stop imitating and sucking up to dirt simply because he sucks
up to you. Because it's disgusting, and as much as I find you offensive,
I find dirt more than double as offensive. You need to clean up your act,
if you intend to argue the DP, and I'm not the only one aware of that fact.
Your friends have told you that as well.
<pathetic attempts to make light of this issue clipped>
> I've exchanged e-mails with both retentionists and aboltionists on this
> group, and one of the most 'frequently asked' questions (not by either
> of your two sycophants, rest assured) is, 'How do you get him to
> respond like that ?'
>
Sure it is. I have also provided my e-mail address to a select few
here, and they have remarked 'How do you stand that silly son-of-a-bitch?'
And I respond -- "It's a tough job.. but someone has to do it.'
> You know, much as you don't realise it, the best thing you could do on
> here, would be to killfile my posts.
For you... I'm sure that would be best. You'd love that.. but sorry, sport.
> Not because I 'win' in our little
> exchanges,
A manifest truth. One might even say a logical tautology.
> as I don't believe that usenet in general, or this
> newsgroup in particular, is about 'winning', or 'losing', and I have no
> interest in either, for reasons which I have previously stated. No, you
> should killfile me, because you are obviously incapable of _not_
> responding to me. I push your buttons so easily, and so well, that
> you can't help but respond. Then, everyone but your two sycophants,
> rocks back on his heels, and *guffaws*.
>
Ummm... could you possibly read the subject of this thread again. Since
it demonstrates again what a hypocrite you are. No.. let me... YOU were the
FIRST poster. You CREATED this thread, and you said in that original
post --
"PV, you've got me beat."
.....
"Whilst I'm flattered that you seem to 'not take [me] seriously' to
such an extent that your entire time on AADP is devoted to answering
me, I _do_ have a ****ing life !
I have a bottle of Bordeaux to polish off. I have a pregnant wife to
pamper. I have a Kate Bush CD to listen to.
So I'm going to try to answer most of your cra^H^Hposts, but don't
expect an answer to all of them ... "
And now what do we have? A hysterical little boy named DESMOND,
who refuses to follow his own advice in a thread that he created. It
is more than obvious that I am pulling the strings here, DESMOND.
I am the puppet-master, and you are my little puppet, responding to
my every tug. And I couldn't be enjoying myself more. Although I
must say having demolished you in some previous arguments has
given me much joy before. Killfile you???? Perish the thought.
I'm busy searching the 'net' for another kindergarten problem to pose
for you. Just having a grand old time.
> > You will find that the OED provides one of the definitions for 'insure' as
> > follows -- "6. To make say, to secure, to guarantee (against, from): =
> > ASSURE v. 1c, ENSURE v. 6. But there is most certainly a difference
> > as to what continent the Balkans is in.
>
> Face it, PV : you used the word out of context. Accept your
> spanking, put some ointment on your 'ass' (sic), and move on.
>
ROTFLMAO. You see what I mean about you being PEDANTIC??
It is YOU, and dirt who refuse to 'move on.' Regardless of what you
believe, it is the both of you who hold tenaciously to that simple
remark as if it provides the holy grail to you winning every argument.
It doesn't you know. It has as little value to either the DP or any
perception of 'intellect' as my question to you has. It certainly means
infinitely less than 'the Balkans are not in Europe,' which is a fundamental
gap in basic knowledge. And the point is you KNOW better, but STILL
you make a fool of yourself, while commenting obsessively over petty
things that have nothing to do with anything. THAT'S the point.
> >> { puerile insistence on 'typo's' (sic) snipped }
> >>
> >> LOL ... and the rest just confirm that you've now gone from 'being
> >> spanked', to 'autospanking' ... the perl script is out of control ...
> >> the function that calls /usr/libexec/spank is caught in a loop ...
>
> > As usual... DESMOND really doesn't say anything. And feels he
> > may appear more knowledgeable by using the term 'perl script' and a
> > pseudo-Unix command to demonstrate his pseudo-intellect. How typical.
> > Has anyone ever been obsessive enough to count the number of times
> > he has concluded that his remarking 'perl script' has somehow proved
> > his argument? Does anyone care...
>
> ... and this is it : no ... no one cares, but you !!!
No... I've never counted. I only realize how I've laughed when I've seen
you use the phrase before.
>
> Again, a hefty bout of laughing ensues ... I change tracks on my Laura
> Pausini CD ... the One comes out of the bedroom ... when are you coming to
> bed ? ... j'arrive, mon Amour ... but oh, this is fun ...
>
Give her a bwaahhhaaaaaa for me, okay???
> > since it is such a silly remark to
> > begin with, and everyone knows it doesn't mean squat?
>
> No, everyone who knows the first thing about UNIX (and I'm a long way
> from being an expert ... I reckon QZD 'whups [sic] my ass [sic]' when
> it comes to UNIX), says, 'Oh ... OK.'
>
No... I don't believe that for a minute. Everyone who knows anything
about unix, looks at it and remarks -- 'What a nerd.'
> But you don't. Because for all your bravado about trolling, about _not_
> being a 'pseudo-intellectual' ... about 'spanking' me and dirt ... none
> of it stops your massive inferiority complex from saying, 'I don't know
> what he's talking about ... he's trying to put me down !!'
>
Wishful thinking, DESMOND. How often have you made a fool of yourself
here? Shall I provide my list again? Tell us where the Balkans are. Tell
us how 'wind shear' caused the Lockerbie disaster. Tell us how bin Laden
was not behind the WTC attack. Tell us how 'none' of the terrorists knew
they were on a suicide mission. Oh... so many things to 'tell us.' My list...
where the hell is my list???
> And yet again ... ho! Ho! Ho
>
> { snip }
>
> > Your claim to having anything remotely resembling 'classical' about
> > what you learned in your education is just silly posturing, and pathetic
> > preening.
>
> You're excelling yourself, PV ... _this_ is what John calls 'more than a
> match' ? *snort* ...
>
Umm... needless to say. Your counterargument here is rather flimsy.
I mean *snort* hardly demonstrates that 'intellectual' behavior you
have claimed to possess. You should use a handkerchief, you old
dog, you.
> > It is disproved by examples you provide right here. In the
> > various comments you've made here. Certainly a 'classical' education
> > would confirm that the Balkans are in Europe. And a literal ton of
> > those ACTUALLY having a 'classical education' have confirmed that
> > the dead can be honored, using those exact words.
>
> The above paragraph could have been snipped, yet it will show to all the
> world that you really don't even know what 'classical' means. You probably,
> like most of those denied a proper university education, think that anything
> before Stravinsky, is 'classical music'. You probably equate 'classical'
> with 'old'.
>
Actually -- 'Classical' is what has stood the test of time, and emerged as
vibrant today as before. Neoclassic is probably what you equate with classic.
And clearly much that is seen as neoclassic is actually 'pseudo-neoclassical'
and falls into disrepute when tested by time. For example, the European
abolitionist movement is 'pseudo-neoclassical,' and will never survive the test of
time. While the U.S. DP is strictly classical. Trust me on this one. :-)
> You're now going to copy and paste from your _OED_ CD-ROM, the definition
> of 'classical'. Save your wrist tendons. I know what the word means. I
> also know what a classical education entails. It certainly doesn't
> necessarily (although it can) entail 'knowing' European geography. Once
> again, your shortcomings are there for all to see.
>
Too bad for you. I know why you hoped I wouldn't look at the OED. Since
Classical is defined in one way as "e. Of physics, mechanics, etc., used
esp. of conclusions based on concepts and theories established before the
discovery of quantum theory, the theory of relativity, etc."
Thus, my question bore specifically on a 'classical' education. And demonstrates
your lack of one. :-(
> >> LOL ... and yet more LOL ... I'm sitting here rocking back on my seat. If
> >> the question you asked really is 'knowledge' that you have, then bravo. I
> >> certainly don't know the answer to your question, but then the mere fact
> >> that you had to ask it, to counter an observation that your education is
> >> lacking, causes me _no end_ of amusement.
>
> > No, sport. It was meant to demonstrate the gaps in your education,
>
> Oh, dear me. I don't know the frequency of a wave of whatever (what was
> the question again ..? LOL ...). That must mean that I don't have a
> classical education. But hang on ... you didn't have a classical education,
> and you _do_ know it (or know how to find it on a Physics for ****wits
> website). Does not compute ... / was not cleanly unmounted ... syncing
> disks ... 1 ... 2 ... 3 ... giving up .. help! Kernel panic ....
>
> (damn, there I go, showing off again ...)
>
Actually, doing exactly that... just like the 'class clown.'
> <fx: winks at QZD>
>
And hopes Mr. D. will respond in some small way so he can claim him as
'his friend.'
> > since the answer, as I stated is absurdly simple if we assume theoretical
> > computations. I hoped to avoid making it complex in any way. And
> > even provided you the path to find the answer. Simply put... you're
> > stupid. And have a huge hole in what you presume is your education.
>
> ROTFLMAO !!!!
>
> LOL ... this is just, like, manna from heaven ... anyway, She is
> becoming impatient. I go to melt into Her arms.
>
Methinks your copious descriptive phrases are simply meant to hope
that others find them believable. Yet, one needs to realize that the more
one claims to hold, the less believable it becomes. It's a part of human
nature that still eludes you.
> Catch you all tomorrow.
Be still my heart.
PV
>
> --
> Desmond Coughlan
>>
<snipped PV squirming>
> you now
>are intent (as dirt is as well) in creating as much chaos in this group
>as possible, with various personal attacks having nothing to do with the
>DP toward specific collective entities and individual posters.
<snipped PV's rant and Desmond making an absolute fool of him>
>As usual, you've missed the point completely. It is that your pedantic
>arguments hold as little validity to the DP as my question.
An excellent example of how fucking clueless you are. Observe:
1- you berate Desmond and I by alleging the behaviour described in the
first extracted paragraph above
2- You then admit to the exact same behaviour _yourself_ in the second
extract above.
Admit it. You don't know what you're on about yourself, do you?
w00f
God, PV, can't you do any better than that?
The diffraction is an integral part of functioning of laser. Also, it
is selector using for apportionment condition single-mode oscillation.
Study of influence diffraction on amplitude-frequency characteristics
of laser field has much interest. In the present study this influence
consider in two aspects. Firstly, the mechanism of diffraction
nonreciprocity of couterpropagating waves in a single-mode ring gas
laser was investigated method's nonlinear dynamic. Secondly, the
features of dependence amplitude-frequency characteristics of laser
field from disorder.
A specific feature of diffraction is that it functions simultaneously
also as a factor establishing the state of the optical beam (its
spatial structure) and an irreversible converter (dissipator) of the
energy, the operation of which depends on the transverse field
distribution. As a result of such mutual influence, the spatial
structure becomes incorporated in the energy-frequency field
characteristics and hence in the continuous lasing equations. Since
both the diffraction and the nonlinearly are attributes of the laser,
the nonreciprocity caused by them may be regarded as immanent symmetry
breaking' of the active cavity.
Gaussian beam in an active medium.
The stationary field is L-periodic in a ring laser with perimeter L
(Fig.1) and may be treated as fix point of the map:
where q is the longitude mode index, andL has a sense of a fix- point
multiplier. In general the operator T as well as value L is
dependent on the laser-field intensity |E|2, the frequencyw and of the
parameters of the cavity and the active medium (m , n). So the problem
on stationary laser field evaluating may be split into two steps: the
determination of mapping spectrum T - the first equation (1), the
evaluation of the laser-field intensity and frequency as the functions
of the parameters (m , n) - the second equation (1). The last one may
be treated as the resonance condition in an active cavity with its
imaginary part locating the laser-field frequency while its real part
ensuring the gain-losses balance in a round trip.
The ring laser single-mode field is the superposition of two
couterpropagating waves Uj, j=1,2. The task (1), (2) may be sought for
the each field Uj in neglecting the reflections of one wave at the
inhomogeneities of another (the effects in order 1/k2 where k is wave
number) however in non-linear medium the map Tj as well as the
multiplierLj of either wave is dependent on the intensities of both
ones.
The system under investigation is a ring laser operating on the lowest
cavity transverse mode TEM00q. It has the Gaussian form with a
factorized dependence of the transverse co-ordinates x, y in a passive
ideal cavity with a simple astigmatism:
Let either diaphragm and gas medium does not distort the Gaussian mode
structure (2), but causes the deformations of its parameters: the
curvatures Spj and the diameters wpj. Since it is true, in a strict
sense, for the quadratic medium only we represent the refraction
coefficient of the j-wave in the active gas medium as:
Here K is the gain per unit length (proportional to the unsaturated
population inversion), nj(z) is the complex refraction coefficient of
the j-wave at the cavity axis, and Is (s=1,2) are the
counter-propagating waves intensities at the medium entries while the
integrating is performed over the tube axis follow s-wave trip
direction. Then the resonance condition (2) may be represented for
either wave as:
where the integrating is performed over the cavity perimeter L follow
j-wave trip direction. Heree represents the complex phenomenological
losses arised from the mirrors transmission, the phase-shift at
reflections and so on. The values lpj, lyj are the eigenvalues of the
cavity passage unimodular ABCD-matrix which transforms the state
(1,xpj(zoj)) at the initial point zoj onto the state (lpj,xpj) at the
point z+(-1)jL:
where the last equation follows from the stationary field
self-reproduction condition in a round trip. Out of ABCD-matrix
spectrum the condition wpj2>0 selects only one point as a stationary
state for each of the waves. This state may be freated as a fix
mapping point M:
with valuelpj being the multiplier and conserquenly the ABCD-matrix
playing the monodromy operator for this point. A limit cycle a
piecewise - continuous closed curve corresponds to the fix point
(Fig.2a, b) in the phase plane of the beam (Rexpj, |Imxpj|). Its
continuous sections reflect the evaluation of the beam between the
cavity components, whereas the discontinuities in the phase path
correspond to abrupt changes in the field on the mirrors (horizontal
jumps) and aperture (vertical jumps). The presence of an aperture
brakes the self-conjunction of the ABCD-matrix. Two consequences arise
from that. At first the absolute value of the multipliers |l pj| ? 1
to indicate the presence of diffractional losses in the cavity.
Secondary the phase curves are split. This corresponds to the
splitting of the spatial structure of the counter-propagating waves at
each point in the cavity. If the cavity contains only one diaphragm
the diameters of the beams incident on it are equal reflecting the
equality of the energy losses at the aperture and so the reciprocity
of the ring cavity.
In the Fig.2a asymmetry of the phase curves reflects the asymmetry of
the disposition of the diaphragm respect on the waist of the
nonperturbed beam with the diameters of the incident on the diaphragm
beams being equal. The distinction between later ones (curves 4,5)
reflects the asymmetry of the diaphragm disposition respect on the
symmetry center of the active cavity.
The differences between the frequencies and intensities of
counter-propagating waves.
By subtracting the balance equations (4) for counter-propagating
waves from one another and taking into account the reciprocity of the
laser at the lazing threshold (I=0), we obtain a complex equation for
the balance of nonreciprocities:
(b - q)(I1W1-I2W2)+(k1-k2)L=0, (7)
whereb = bjj, q = qij, Wj=W0j+Wgj; j,i=1,2 (j ? i);
Gpj is half the trace of the corresponding active cavity matrix.
Having added together the real parts of equation (4) for counter-
propagating waves and having separated the real and imaginary parts in
the difference equation (7) from one another, we obtain:
wherea-d is the excess of the nonlinear gain per pass through the
cavity relative to the lazing threshold. We find from equation (8)
expressions for the intensities and frequency splitting of
counter-propagating waves:
The value H is the determinant of the amplitude equation (9) and its
congregation to the zero means the boundaries of the unidirectional
oscillation range. The results of calculations are plotted as the
tuning curves in the Fig.3, where Fig.3a refers to the active cavity
with the diaphragm for clear isotope Fig.3b refers to the active
cavity with the diaphragm for 50% blend.
Their hallmarks are the pronounced asymmetry and the singularities,
which are consistent with the experiment [2]. Its singularities
determine the boundaries of the unidirectional oscillation range. The
asymmetry of the frequency nonreciprocity tuning curves are similar to
that of the experiment [2], while their singularities are eliminated
due to a frequency locking not being considered in our model. The
width of the unidirectional oscillation range is depended on the size
of the diaphragm aperture. This dependence is plotted in the Fig.4.
The dependence of frequency splitting on the aperture is plotted in
the Fig.5. The dependence of frequency splitting on the distance
between the output of the active medium and the diaphragm (l3) is
plotted in the Fig.6. This figure shows that the splitting is vanished
when the diaphragm is placed both at the symmetry centre of the active
cavity {l3=(L-l1-l2)/2} and at the centre of the active medium
{l3=l1+l2/2}.
The calculations are performed for the ring laser with the parameters:
the wave length of the oscillation is l=3.39mcm, the perimeter of the
cavity is L=80cm, the radius of curvature of the mirror is R=100cm,
the aperture of the diaphragm is a=0.08cm, the length of the active
medium is l2=15cm, the distance between the mirror and the active
medium is l1=10cm, the distance between the active medium and the
diaphragm is l3=10cm.
The results of the calculations show twat the theory of work [1] is
consistent qualitatively with an experiment.
Reference:
[1] E.B. Pelyukhova, E.E. Fradkin. Quant. Electr. 30, 2 (2000).
[2] I.A.Andronova, I.L.Bershtein. J.T.E.Ph. 57, 1 (1969).
[3] A.M.Goncharenko. Gaussian optical beam (Minsk: Science and
techniques, 1977)
Oh, and a REAL SPank...Spank....Spank...
w00f
>
>"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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>> Le Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:04:10 +0100, dirtdog <dog.of.sp...@w00f.cxm> a écrit :
>>
>> { snip }
>>
>> { snip }
>>
>> > Indeed, PV _is_ stung by his lack of a classical education. The simple
>> > fact that most of his day is spent posting to this newsgroup, which
>> > deals with such academic issues illustrates how he seeks expertise in
>> > a field removed from the vocational path his life sadly took.
>
>That from the guy who said 'James Boswell??? Who's he?'
>
>> I referred to PV recently as a 'pseudo-intellectual'. If any further
>> proof that he _is_ one, were needed, it was his retort that he was
>> perhaps using words that were 'too big' for me to understand.
>>
>I think you often become confused by the 'little one's' as well.
Bwahahahahahahaahaha!
ROTFL!
<snipped furious rant by PV as he try's [sic] to use long word's
[sic] and tell everyone how clever his is>
w00f
Which 'thrashing' is that, PV? Your woefully stupid attempt to squirm
out of the GC, which even your 'team-mate' Teflon distances himself
from, or the delightful manner in which you triumphantly produced a
cite with regard to mitigating circumstances which directly
contradicted your own argument?
Like Desmond says, when you're getting spanked as thoroughly as you
have been this last week, your clumsy flapping causes but one reation.
LOL....and more LOL.
>
>'this newsgroup, which deals with such academic issues'!!!! The issue
>of the DP is a social issues, dipshit! There is no more of an English
>academic issue than the moon walk, to the argument in respect
>to the DP.
Oh dear.
To properly discuss whether the DP should be abolished, one needs to
be conversant in, among other things, disciplines such as criminology,
jurisprudence and law. One must also be skilled in disseminating
evidence, deducing causation. One must be aware of the philosophy of
law, and the rationales for criminal sanction, and a failure to
appreciate any of these wholly _academic_ matters will inevitably
reduce a poster's argument to relatively feeble expressions of support
or opposition to the DP based entirely on personal value judgements -
which have little persuasive value for others.
Your evident lack of skill in any of the above disciplines is
precisely what causes you to make such silly and nonsensical
statements here.
Oh, and BTW, the study of social issues is called sociology. This, you
will find, is an academic discipline (and one in which I have an A
greade A-Level to boot!).
So who's the dipshit?
<snipped furious rant>
>> PV's lack of understanding on matters as diverse as grammar, proper
>> placement of apostrophes, the law, basic reading and even evidence
>> dissemination techniques _does_, however, impede his prowess in such
>> discussions - causing him to make some quite amazingly _wrong_
>> statements. I can insue [sic] you of that. There are no mitigating
>> circumstances, and it is clear from his attempt to be learned that
>> this is his intent [sic].
>>
>ROTFLMAO. I have tried very hard to IGNORE your many trivial
>mistakes here, dirt. Simply because they are trivial. But 'suprise' [sic],
>your many 'indescretions' [sic] only exist for 'watever' [sic]. We should never
>give up our 'sovreignty' [sic], because that would be 'unenforcable' [sic].
>Unless it were 'incorperated' [sic] into law. Of course, we could always
>have 'reneiged' [sic]. And we can be 'absolutly' [sic] sure of our 'abiity' [sic]
>to become 'detatched' [sic] and 'siingle' [sic]. That's assuming we have
>an 'independant' [sic] view, which is 'essentailly' [sic] not always a true
>'cocept' [sic], and we would be 'self-indulgant' [sic] to think so. Such
>an 'assetion' [sic]; although 'humourous' [sic] sometimes, is 'teririble'
>[sic] and 'unsuprising' [sic].
>
>Those are only a FEW of YOUR mistakes, which are etched forever
>in google (you not having the foresight which DESMOND has demonstrated).
L-O fucking L
YOU SAD BASTARD
PV makes note of _every_ typo or spelling mistake I have ever made!
What a great big, hairy, purple headed cock he truly is!
<another furious display of jealousy by PV at my classical education
snipped>
w00f
<snipped>
> reation.
Quick! Add that to your 'list'.
<snipped>
w00f
What an apt title for this thread!
While dirt spends a few casual moments slurping up on DESMOND'S behind.
>
> >As usual, you've missed the point completely. It is that your pedantic
> >arguments hold as little validity to the DP as my question.
>
> An excellent example of how ****ing clueless you are. Observe:
>
Right off, we see that dirt has again become a raging red-neck maniac.
Thus, satisfying the first condition I refer to. qed.
> 1- you berate Desmond and I by alleging the behaviour described in the
> first extracted paragraph above
>
> 2- You then admit to the exact same behaviour _yourself_ in the second
> extract above.
>
You've become very scary in your mental delusions. Or else you confirm
my belief that you really do have trouble comprehending the English
language. Your conclusion that the two points I present represent some
form of logical collision (look it up), is totally at odds with the facts as
they appear here.
<pathetic cry for help clipped>
PV
> w00f
>
>
PV
> w00f
>
>
Are you taking the piss?
Surely, when being teased about his shaky grammar, even thickie PV
wouldn't be so careles's as to place a full stop which should be
outside quotation mark's within them? Not after all the time's hes
been left red faced over the same mistake's in the pa'st.
BTW, I haven't got a fucking clue what you're on about...
w00f
>Subject: Re: I Throw In the Towel ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:57:56 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:28:04 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> ROTFLMAO !!!!
>
>> Indeed I am doing so.
>
>No you're not.
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
>desmond @ zeouane.org
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>>> <snipped furious rant by PV as he try's [sic] to use long word's
>>> [sic] and tell everyone how clever his is>
>
>> La de da... you've shown that you don't understand the 'short' ones as
>> well. Like 'he.' ROTFLMAO.
>
>ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>It was a troll, wasn't it, PV ? Tell us how it was a troll !!!!
>
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:10:58 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 13 Jul 2002 23:32:06 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>>> { snip frankly fucking _excellent_ demolition job }
>>>
>>> > Spank...spank...spank...
>
>>> *applause!!!!!*
>
>> Note that DESMOND does not care WHAT preceded dirt's dirty little
>> 'copy' of a remark of another. It simply generates spontaneous and
>> mechanical applause from the silly shit.
>
>Translation : PV's feeling the heat from 'The Gang' ...
>
>> Every post from DESMOND in his pathetic and servile mechanical
>> responses to dirt, seems to demonstrate the true meaning of a
>> suck-up, since he adds nothing new, except a sycophantic
>> response in adoration of his idol.
>
>A paragraph so devoid of meaning, would be difficult even for the
>famous chimpanzee locked in a room with a typewriter, to produce. Or
>perhaps PV _is_ the chimpanzee ...
>
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>Subject: Re: I Throw In the Towel ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:34:16 +0000
>
>Le Sun, 14 Jul 2002 01:53:26 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>>> > Indeed, PV _is_ stung by his lack of a classical education. The simple
>>> > fact that most of his day is spent posting to this newsgroup, which
>>> > deals with such academic issues illustrates how he seeks expertise in
>>> > a field removed from the vocational path his life sadly took.
>
>> That from the guy who said 'James Boswell??? Who's he?'
>
>ROTFLMAO ... don't you get splinters ... sorry, splinter's in your
>hand's from the bottom of that barrel, PV ..?
>
>>> I referred to PV recently as a 'pseudo-intellectual'. If any further
>>> proof that he _is_ one, were needed, it was his retort that he was
>>> perhaps using words that were 'too big' for me to understand.
>
>> I think you often become confused by the 'little one's' as well.
>
>*ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
>
>Regrettably for you, PV, whilst one can 'pretend' to be a deathie,
>or an abolitionist, or right-wing, or left-wing, one cannot pretend
>to be clever, if one is not. You are the living, breathing proof of
>this axiom, day-in, day-out on AADP.
>
>{ snip claims to have 'spanked' me }
>
>>> We've been here before. I am a native British English speaker, even
>>> although I no longer use the language on a day-to-day basis. My typos
>>> and _faux pas_ in English cause me no shame, as I am (by my own
>>> admission) 'losing' my English.
>
>> You make up for it by pedantically posting remarks on those
>> same faults when they are demonstrated by others.
>
>Even if that were true (which it is not), I don't post in relation to
>typos ... sorry, typo's. Everyone makes them, and they're usually
>pretty easy to 'decypher'. I only draw attention to the huge gaps
>in your ability to manipulate English, by making such elementary errors
>as apostrophe placement, and (as an example) 'insure', and 'ensure'. And
>you have the bare-faced cheek to whinge because Jürgen doesn't write
>perfect English. ROTFLMAO !!! You're (supposedly) a native English
>speaker. Jürgen has an excuse. You don't, other than the one that we can
>all observe on a clear day from across the ocean : you're a moron with
>an ego as big as Mount Rushmore, and an IQ which is hovering bordeline
>'Mouth Breather'.
>
>{ snip entire paragraph which doesn't mean anything, and is bordeline
> retard-produced ...}
>
>>> In speech, I frequently have to pause,
>>> and even have to ask other English speakers, 'Is that how you say it in
>>> English ..?' In short, I don't give a shit about English. I will never
>>> 'lose' it to the extent that I can't make myself understood, but 95%
>>> of my time is devoted to speaking, thinking in, and writing in French.
>
>> Seems as if you're building up to an admission that you actually are
>> a pseudo-intellectual.
>
>*chortle*
>
>No, I'm 'building up' to an admission that I don't use English every
>day. Which part of that is causing you difficulty ?
>
>{ snip PV trying to drum up support for his 'opinions' ... }
>
>> Actually, when those words are EXPLAINED to you, as being of a
>> colloquial or slang nature, you don't ACCEPT that fact. Take for
>> example 'lowrider,' or 'defense' (which is of course an acceptable
>spelling),
>
>LOL ... 'splinter' ... 'splinter' ...
>
>{ snip attempt to divert attention from PV's own lack of intellect }
>
>>> That point seems to have escaped our 'pseudo-intellectual'.
>
>> Seeing as how the only point is that YOU are assuming to be an
>> intellectual right here and now, we can only question YOUR statement.
>
>LOL ... one senses PV getting a little hot under the collar ...
>
>{ snip more declarations of victory }
>
>> I can well expect that your reply will (or 'were,' to use your level
>> of language -
>
>Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear ... you really have no idea of where to use
>the conditionnal, do you ? 'Your reply were ...' *guffaw!!* PV once
>again shows that he's the little fish trying to get into the big tank,
>and that words he doesn't understand, are automatically 'rehashed', wholly
>out of context, and in turn, only generates more laughter.
>
>Poor, poor, PV.
>
>> the comma goes inside BTW)
>
>It goes inside if the comma is part of the quotation. In other words, if
>the comma formed part of the original 'speech'. Just as the full stop in
>what I just wrote, comes _outside_ the quotation marks.
>
>Don't try to mix it with the native British English speakers, PV. You look
>stupid enough with your naïve views on the death penalty, international
>law, 'defense' (sic), the Geneva Convention, and the correct way to ride
>a motorcycle. Don't add insult to injury by making yourself look even
>more of an idiot.
>
>{ snip _non sequitur_ }
>
>Poor, poor PV. Poor *spanked* PV. Never mind, John will be along in
>a minute, to tell you how you're 'more than a match' for me. Everyone
>but him, is still waiting for you to prove it ... :-(
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
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>Subject: Re: I Throw In the Towel ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:09:24 +0000
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>Le Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:28:05 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
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>{ snip }
>
>>> Please let's not _what_ ?
>
>> Ah... the pedantic rears his head.
>
>How can a rear be pedantic ?
>
>Or let me guess, just as 'insure' can be used when the correct word is
>'ensure', so an adjective can take the place of a noun. Only on Planet
>PV, it seems.
>
>ROTFLMAO ... other peoples' typos get used by PV to cover up the woeful
>lack of substance in what he spams to AADP, yet his grammatical fuck-ups,
>which can in no way be considered 'typos' ... sorry, 'typo's', and which
>show a significant lack of skill in using the English language, are
>supposed to go unnoticed.
>
>'I'll have none of it'.
>
>{ snip remaining crap designed to cover up PV's lack of education }
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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>Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:09:23 +0000
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>Le Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:32:13 +0100, dirtdog <dog.of.sp...@w00f.cxm> a
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>>> reation.
>
>> Quick! Add that to your 'list'.
>
>LOL ...
>
>--
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>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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>Subject: Re: I Throw In the Towel ...
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>Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:04:54 +0000
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>Le Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:53:01 +0100, dirtdog <dog.of.sp...@w00f.cxm> a
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>{ snip }
>
>> What a great big, hairy, purple headed cock he truly is!
>
>Harsh, but fair ...
>
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> You win Desi. PV, unfortunately you have shown that you are a bit shallow
> and one dimensional in this particular discussion. Of interest to both of
> you (and the group BTW) is a recent photograph of PV. Please print it out
> and keep it on your desk.
>
> Heh Heh Heh
>
>
> WooF w00f WooF
Put a grey wig on her, some wrinkles on her butt, add 20 years, and
dirt would slobber in a sexual frenzy, thinking of his mommy when she does
those acts to him.
PV
Pic clipped.
HARDLY... just remarking on that huge slurping sound I keep hearing.
Coming from the direction of dirt and DESMOND.
>
> > Every post from DESMOND in his pathetic and servile mechanical
> > responses to dirt, seems to demonstrate the true meaning of a
> > suck-up, since he adds nothing new, except a sycophantic
> > response in adoration of his idol.
>
> A paragraph so devoid of meaning, would be difficult even for the
> famous chimpanzee locked in a room with a typewriter, to produce. Or
> perhaps PV _is_ the chimpanzee ...
>
Faint praise from one who has become rather 'famous' (sic) for 'meaningless
drivel' in this group. You know no one other than dirt can compete with you
in that area. But I can imagine it struck rather close to home. You've become
rather hostile and distant lately, DESMOND, old chap. Could your colon
possibly be giving you problems? :-(
How's your ARITHMETIC??? Miss that class in your 'classical education'?
PV
SLURP... SLURP... SLURP. Jesus, DESMOND, it's disgusting how
pathetically slavish and subservient you've become to that mongrel.
Have you no pride left at all? And it appears further on in this post
that you have now become confused as to your own identity, distinct
from dirt.
> >> I referred to PV recently as a 'pseudo-intellectual'. If any further
> >> proof that he _is_ one, were needed, it was his retort that he was
> >> perhaps using words that were 'too big' for me to understand.
>
> > I think you often become confused by the 'little one's' as well.
>
> *ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
>
> Regrettably for you, PV, whilst one can 'pretend' to be a deathie,
> or an abolitionist, or right-wing, or left-wing, one cannot pretend
> to be clever, if one is not. You are the living, breathing proof of
> this axiom, day-in, day-out on AADP.
>
Regrettably for you, you have your head up and firmly locked, and I now
intend to yet again make you look less than 'clever.' I have looked
at every post to you in all of 2002 and have found none that even
use the phrase 'too big,' until I responded yesterday to YOUR use
of that term. You are certainly confusing yourself with your asswipe
buddy (a natural mistake). It appears you can't even keep who you
ARE straight, in your delusional world. You are apparently referring to
a recent post to dirt (and in your delusion assumed his persona), in
the thread "Fuckwit dirtdog...." (very appropriate subject), where he
remarked in my direction "Surely, someone who, on occasion, uses
vey (sic) long words...." And I replied -- "Apparently long words tend
to frighten you." Now I expect nothing less than an apology for your
egregious insult in assuming I had made such a remark to you,
unless you can present the post you speak of. And sit up and beg
in the process, since I am an unforgiving God. You will also note
that in his original post I ignored his most flagrant abuse of the
English language in his disgusting use of 'vey' for 'very,' which has
some anti-Semitic connotation - O'vey. <irony - since it usually flies
right over your head>
> { snip claims to have 'spanked' me }
If not then... then certainly now... spank...spank...spank.
>
> >> We've been here before. I am a native British English speaker, even
> >> although I no longer use the language on a day-to-day basis. My typos
> >> and _faux pas_ in English cause me no shame, as I am (by my own
> >> admission) 'losing' my English.
>
> > You make up for it by pedantically posting remarks on those
> > same faults when they are demonstrated by others.
>
> Even if that were true (which it is not), I don't post in relation to
> typos ... sorry, typo's. Everyone makes them, and they're usually
> pretty easy to 'decypher'. I only draw attention to the huge gaps
> in your ability to manipulate English, by making such elementary errors
> as apostrophe placement, and (as an example) 'insure', and 'ensure'. And
> you have the bare-faced cheek to whinge because Jürgen doesn't write
> perfect English. ROTFLMAO !!! You're (supposedly) a native English
> speaker. Jürgen has an excuse. You don't, other than the one that we can
> all observe on a clear day from across the ocean : you're a moron with
> an ego as big as Mount Rushmore, and an IQ which is hovering bordeline
> 'Mouth Breather'.
>
Nonetheless... I KNOW who I am... while you are apparently undergoing
an 'identity crisis.' Plus you don't know squat about ARITHMETIC.
> { snip entire paragraph which doesn't mean anything, and is bordeline
> retard-produced ...}
>
We've already seen many times what that 'translates' into -- "I haven't
a clue how to answer this, so I'll clip and insult." It seems that you
cut-and-paste 'bordeline' (sic). Once is forgivable, two is a row...
questionable. Do you have this little 'book' of insult words that you
just throw randomly in, whether they make any sense or not?
> >> In speech, I frequently have to pause,
> >> and even have to ask other English speakers, 'Is that how you say it in
> >> English ..?' In short, I don't give a shit about English. I will never
> >> 'lose' it to the extent that I can't make myself understood, but 95%
> >> of my time is devoted to speaking, thinking in, and writing in French.
>
> > Seems as if you're building up to an admission that you actually are
> > a pseudo-intellectual.
>
> *chortle*
>
> No, I'm 'building up' to an admission that I don't use English every
> day. Which part of that is causing you difficulty ?
>
The part where you base most of your 'arguments' (sic) on being
pedantic. Such as 'memory,' sport. Although EVERYONE here
recognized you were trying to do so. That's most certainly a
clear demonstration of what I mean.
> { snip PV trying to drum up support for his 'opinions' ... }
>
But you don't hear that SLURP...SLURP... SLURP, where I have tired
to suck up so badly that I've become confused as to who I am, as you
apparently make so noisily in your current identity befuddlement.
> > Actually, when those words are EXPLAINED to you, as being of a
> > colloquial or slang nature, you don't ACCEPT that fact. Take for
> > example 'lowrider,' or 'defense' (which is of course an acceptable spelling),
>
> LOL ... 'splinter' ... 'splinter' ...
LOL... 'idiot' .... 'idiot' ...
> { snip attempt to divert attention from PV's own lack of intellect }
You mean attempt to divert attention from your own behavior here. I claim
no intellect. But I can solve basic ARITHMETIC problems.
> >> That point seems to have escaped our 'pseudo-intellectual'.
>
> > Seeing as how the only point is that YOU are assuming to be an
> > intellectual right here and now, we can only question YOUR statement.
>
> LOL ... one senses PV getting a little hot under the collar ...
>
Hardly, sport. I have a feeling your bowels will go into an uproar, and
cause your sphincter to squeeze a little tighter, when you realize how
silly you were to claim I remarked to you in respect to 'big words.'
Or was it back in 2001 that I did so? Should you now DENY this, we
will again demonstrate that third leg of your flawed behavior I speak
of... your insidious lies. I need an admission of denial from you, DESMOND.
Or a cite of the post you refer to.
> { snip more declarations of victory }
>
Ho hum... Actually such type snipping causes some eyebrows to
raise and question 'WHY' was it NECESSARY to 'clip'?
> > I can well expect that your reply will (or 'were,' to use your level
> > of language -
>
> Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear ... you really have no idea of where to use
> the conditionnal, do you ? 'Your reply were ...' *guffaw!!* PV once
> again shows that he's the little fish trying to get into the big tank,
> and that words he doesn't understand, are automatically 'rehashed', wholly
> out of context, and in turn, only generates more laughter.
>
My God!!!! It's true what has been remarked on here before (by Jigsaw
I believe). You DO have an 'irony bypass.' And the comma again.
I do think you have come to believe you are 'right' in your use outside
the quotes. And clearly, you are wrong.
> Poor, poor, PV.
>
> > the comma goes inside BTW)
>
> It goes inside if the comma is part of the quotation. In other words, if
> the comma formed part of the original 'speech'. Just as the full stop in
> what I just wrote, comes _outside_ the quotation marks.
No... no.... sport. That's just trying to take a page out of dirt's handbook.
From Webster's New World English Grammar Handbook, ISBN
0-7645-6488-9, Page 172 --- "Commas and Periods are ALWAYS
(Caps mine) placed INSIDE (Caps mine) the closing quotation
marks, with one exception: When citing a reference, the quotation
is enclosed in quotation marks, the source is enclosed in parentheses,
and then a period is placed at the end of the sentence." Obviously the
'exception' applies ONLY to the period. Clearly, you're full of shit.
Also the Purdue University Online Writing Law, see
http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/grammar/g_quote.html
and a great number of other grammar sites ALL state and
demonstrate with clear examples that the comma goes INSIDE the
quotation marks. But never fear... you did know what an 'abstract'
(sic) verb is.
And not only that, you did it AGAIN, in your silly argument prior
to that, and you recognize you did it AGAIN, with your period, outside
your quotes in the sentence just above, yet still insist it's correct,
when it is NOT. It is that arrogant insolence that I speak of, in the
face of OVERWHELMING evidence of the contrary argument. For
example, in you almost maniacal hold on one of the silly claim I've
seen from you, that 'the dead cannot be honored.' You see how
being pedantic can be so silly? Why don't you just laugh it off and
move on, since I'm only trying to make a point, and I've seen you
do this the same on a great number of occasions, and have only
remarked on it NOW, to prove a point.
It's a silly mistake of no meaning. As is the 'greengrocer' apostrophe,
which I admit I have a problem with, and MANY American's (sic)
have that same problem, in a sentence constructed EXACTLY as
I provided my unnecessary apostrophe here. We all know that it
has nothing to do with the argument, but paedomorphic rules seem
to prevail with you and dirt. You should drop it. And dirt should as well.
Because neither of you, nor I, can aspire to provide flawless grammar,
sentence construction, and spelling.
>
> Don't try to mix it with the native British English speakers, PV. You look
> stupid enough with your naïve views on the death penalty, international
> law, 'defense' (sic), the Geneva Convention, and the correct way to ride
> a motorcycle. Don't add insult to injury by making yourself look even
> more of an idiot.
>
ROTFLMAO... At least I know who I am. It's just more of your
'mindless drivel' where you believe you've made some point because
you arrogantly claim some 'pseudo-intellect' grants you a special
favor to twist the truth. It doesn't work that way, sport. The 'truth'
stands independent from both you and I. And every one of those
'points' you make are when you or dirt have been made to look foolish,
while still proclaiming SG Seminal axiom 6) -- 'Claim victory.' Even
when you look stupid when you do so. And you must see how
that pathetic 'defense' (sic) remark simply shows how limited your
'intellect' (sic) actually is, and how much you NEED pedantry.
Even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Clearly -- :-(
> { snip _non sequitur_ }
>
TRANSLATION -- "I can't handle the truth."
> Poor, poor PV. Poor *spanked* PV. Never mind, John will be along in
> a minute, to tell you how you're 'more than a match' for me. Everyone
> but him, is still waiting for you to prove it ... :-(
>
Ummm... Actually, it's the 'eye of the beholder' I'm concerned with.
I think you're losing there, since all you have is dirt, and dirt's
sometime clone. And everyone knows that you'd offer your firstborn
to Satan to gain dirt's approval. I can still hear that slurp over here.
BTW -- You're DESMOND... He's dirt. Try to keep the posts straight,
please.
PV
> --
> Desmond Coughlan
> Like Desmond says, when you're getting spanked as thoroughly as you
> have been this last week, your clumsy flapping causes but one reation.
> LOL....and more LOL.
>
That would be because you and DESMOND are the only two here,
who believe your words. Since ARITHMETIC seems to be your
primary failing, it is little wonder you believe that if we execute an innocent,
and we do not execute 100 guilty murderers who would murder another
10 innocents again if not executed, it somehow comes out all right
with you. Fuck those 9 other innocents in the name of those murderers
in your view. There's a name for that type of thinking..
> >
> >'this newsgroup, which deals with such academic issues'!!!! The issue
> >of the DP is a social issues, dipshit! There is no more of an English
> >academic issue than the moon walk, to the argument in respect
> >to the DP.
>
> Oh dear.
>
> To properly discuss whether the DP should be abolished, one needs to
> be conversant in, among other things, disciplines such as criminology,
> jurisprudence and law. One must also be skilled in disseminating
> evidence, deducing causation. One must be aware of the philosophy of
> law, and the rationales for criminal sanction, and a failure to
> appreciate any of these wholly _academic_ matters will inevitably
> reduce a poster's argument to relatively feeble expressions of support
> or opposition to the DP based entirely on personal value judgements -
> which have little persuasive value for others.
>
You simply seem to be pointing out all of the faculties that you've
demonstrated you lack. Umm.. remember 'defense' is the OPPOSITE
of 'protection'? Remember the great spanking you endured in 'mitigating
circumstances'? Remember your hysterical raving that 'the Russians
are coming... the Russians are coming'? Remember how you argued
that treaties cannot contain Reservations? Remember how you presumed
that covering up incest was a 'good thing,' if an under-age girl could abort
the child from that incestuous relationship, as long as the family member
committing such incest drove the child to the clinic? Remember how you
said cocaine was not addictive? Remember how you were 'thrashed
about the buttocks' in the GC argument? Remember that the 'philosophy
of anything' is quite beyond your mental capabilities? Remember that
lawyers are the most vilified humans on our planet? I can think of NO
person that your views have had ANY 'persuasive value' toward. Except
DESMOND who wishes to have his wife bear your child, under conditions
similar to that found in 'The Omen.' Others simply see you as a 'kook.'
Clearly, your argument in support of another saying 'the DP is murder,'
demonstrates a very big hole in any logical reasoning abilities you might,
in your pathological narcissism, believe you possess. Clearly your
argument that 'society has no 'self,' has been rejected over and over.
Clearly, your other argument that 'society self-defense' does not exist
has been equally disproved over and over. Clearly, your entire
presumption here is a claim that 'elitism' exists in the legal profession,
whereby the common citizen has no say in the matter. He is of course,
in your view, 'too stupid' to expect to understand the ramifications to
society of the DP, in your rather narrow view of mankind. Clearly your view
is Vox advocatus, vox Dei (the voice of the 'lawyer,' is the voice of God).
While it is more certain that it is actually Vox advocatus, vox Satanas.
Setting yourself as some sort of 'authority' although never elected to, or
chosen for, any seat which would provide you such authority. Clearly,
in arrogant chutzpa, you believe you can claim what doesn't belong to
you. Clearly, you would try to dress yourself in a plumage that you
don't rightly deserve, have never earned, and that fits you quite poorly
(part of that pathological narcissism). Clearly, your sexual aberrations
in respect to your Mother cast dark and disturbing shadows on any
belief that you are 'normal,' thus, certainly placing your views in question.
That's not even mentioning your proven homophobia, demonstrated
racist views and your constant need to express obscenities when it
is obvious that you have become enraged, red-faced, humiliated,
embarrassed and petulant. As your current post demonstrates.
All in all... not a pretty picture, dirt.
> Your evident lack of skill in any of the above disciplines is
> precisely what causes you to make such silly and nonsensical
> statements here.
>
Your 'presumed' skill caused you to make the silly and nonsensical
statement you just made.
> Oh, and BTW, the study of social issues is called sociology. This, you
> will find, is an academic discipline (and one in which I have an A
> greade A-Level to boot!).
>
I'm sure you do. ROTLFMAO. Certainly not in many of the skills
we associate with social interaction.
But let's not forget that James Boswell provided a very deep analysis
of sociology, in a biography that you knew nothing about. More of
those deep holes which exist in your 'classical education'?
> So who's the dipshit?
>
Ummm... You are... You're just a sour red-faced little squirt. Quite hysterical,
actually. I don't know why you can't see yourself. Since I've tried calmly
to discuss your mental problems with you, and you just keep 'flying off the
handle,' in some sort of grouchy fit. Such as when you became offended that
I was using 'long words.' I know you feel dictionaries are for 'wannabees,'
but given the limitations of your 'classical education' perhaps you should
consider purchasing one. But it was nice to see you for once demonstrate
a measure of self-deprecation in your understanding of the language, and
your limitations when encountering 'long words.'
> >> PV's lack of understanding on matters as diverse as grammar, proper
> >> placement of apostrophes, the law, basic reading and even evidence
> >> dissemination techniques _does_, however, impede his prowess in such
> >> discussions - causing him to make some quite amazingly _wrong_
> >> statements. I can insue [sic] you of that. There are no mitigating
> >> circumstances, and it is clear from his attempt to be learned that
> >> this is his intent [sic].
> >>
> >ROTFLMAO. I have tried very hard to IGNORE your many trivial
> >mistakes here, dirt. Simply because they are trivial. But 'suprise' [sic],
> >your many 'indescretions' [sic] only exist for 'watever' [sic]. We should never
> >give up our 'sovreignty' [sic], because that would be 'unenforcable' [sic].
> >Unless it were 'incorperated' [sic] into law. Of course, we could always
> >have 'reneiged' [sic]. And we can be 'absolutly' [sic] sure of our 'abiity' [sic]
> >to become 'detatched' [sic] and 'siingle' [sic]. That's assuming we have
> >an 'independant' [sic] view, which is 'essentailly' [sic] not always a true
> >'cocept' [sic], and we would be 'self-indulgant' [sic] to think so. Such
> >an 'assetion' [sic]; although 'humourous' [sic] sometimes, is 'teririble'
> >[sic] and 'unsuprising' [sic].
> >
> >Those are only a FEW of YOUR mistakes, which are etched forever
> >in google (you not having the foresight which DESMOND has demonstrated).
>
> L-O ****ing L
Cheee... give a guy a compliment by only providing a FEW of his mistakes,
and he begins boiling right into colic in a red-faced huff.. Calm down, son.
>
> YOU SAD BASTARD
Rage, dirt... control your irrational tantrums. I've hardly scratched the surface
of your 'problem.' Your bowels are obviously in an uproar in an iracund (look
it up) rage.
>
> PV makes note of _every_ typo or spelling mistake I have ever made!
>
If I did that, I'd have time for nothing else, sport. Nonetheless, I've ignored
more than 90% of your mental 'mistakes.' Many of them clearly showing you
have some grave mental 'issues.' But I'm more concerned about your
recent decline in emotional stability. I fail to see why you've become so
testy, and acrimonious (again, look it up if it's 'too long' for you).
<furious response from dirt in a pitiful fit of temper about having his ignorance
shown clipped>
PV
>
>
> w00f
<pathetic plagiarized cry for help from dirt clipped yet again>
> >
> >ROTFLMAO. See ...
> >http://www.qsl.net/km5kg/array.htm
> >which is your 'cut-and-paste' argument.
> >
> >Your post is simply a demonstration of how you handle all the
> >arguments here. 'Meaningless drivel' and plagiarism in respect to the very
> >basic question which you still could not answer, even while clipping
> >an article on the web that has no relationship to that fundamental, almost
> >kindergarten level question. There is no question that you have not
> >the slightest understanding of either the article or the question.
> >
> >The answer, sport, is in MHz. Simply a three-digit numeric answer will
> >suffice. But you are unable to provide it. And my point was NOT to
> >prove how clever I am... but how stupid DESMOND is. And how
> >limited his presumed 'knowledge' is. While you seem intent on proving
> >that same thing of yourself, as well.
> >
> >Unless you can quickly provide the answer, I assume you do not know
> >and you will have to try and find it from someone else.
> >
> >PV
> >
>
> God, PV, can't you do any better than that?
'tis enough... sport.. 'tis enough. In truth it doesn't take much for
me to yank your chain, which seems to have become a habit here.
You're easy pickin' sport.
Nonetheless... the 'number,' dirt... it is a simple problem. Not the Calculus,
not Geometry, not Trigonometry, not Algebra, not in any esoteric
and strange discipline... but in f***ing ARITHMETIC, you dunce. You DID
take ARITHMETIC in your 'classical education,' didn't you? I made the
problem purposely as SIMPLE as I could imagine. Where one COULD
solve the problem if they could add, subtract, divide and multiply, and
NOTHING else (actually you can get away without even adding or
subtracting). Knowing only that 1000 meters are in one kilometer, and
100 cm are in 1 meter.
<clipped further demonstration that dirt is ignorance and needs to rely
on silly clippings that he doesn't understand at all, or he would be able
to answer this most trivial of ARITHMETIC questions>
The problem is of the same method (but a different dimension) than the
same as that asked of a 5th grader, yet dirt claims a 'classical education.'
Let me demonstrate its EXACT similarity to a problem a 10-year old would
understand and be able to answer. Nothing in 'real life' about these numbers,
they are just created for simplicity. So please, no technical talk from anyone, in
any explanation which might further confuse the lad. I am speaking in theoretical
terms, in a non-technical example, relating it to a simple problem, that would
be asked of a 5th grader. Yet which requires much of the same technique as
the problem previously presented. Although those with even the most
rudimentary training would know the answer off the top of their head in juggling
wavelength and physical length in cm, and would shake their head in puzzlement
as to why it was necessary to express it in such an elementary manner, please
bear with me. The problem being discussed in regard to muzzle velocity in the
thread "Killers of Aussie tourist to die," is many magnitudes more difficult than
this simple example, which shows how simple my original question was to
answer.
---------------------------------
Given == A man travels 10 KM in 1 hour (light travels 300,000 KM in 1 sec).
Given == In 1 step he travels 1/4 KM (in 10 cm light travels a quarter wave-length)
Given == In 4 steps he travels 1 KM (in 40 cm light travels a full wave-length)
Find == How long does it takes him to travel 1 KM (call that a full cycle)
Find == How many cycles does he travel in 1 hour
SOLUTION == In 4 steps he travels 1 KM = 1 cycle
He travels that 1 KM - 1 cycle in 1/10 of an hour or 6 minutes
He travels 10 cycles in an hour
-------------------------------------
The solution to the original problem is similar.
Now, this is an absolutely TRIVIAL problem. And the ONLY difference is that in
the original question I asked, we're dealing with much higher and smaller magnitudes
of distance -- 300,000 KM and 10 cm. And a much larger number of cycles
coincident with a much shorter moment in time. But the principle is the same if
one applies brute force to the solution, as a theoretical solution.
Now, you would think a 'classical education' would afford some basic
ARITHMETIC training, but apparently dirt's pronounced 'classical' education and
what we see as a 'true' education is quite a bit different.
Oh, and a REAL Spank...Spank....Spank...
Yes, indeedy. I will not speak of this problem again. I was quite certain
it could not be answered by DESMOND or dirt, and was only meant to
illustrate the 'hole' in their presumed 'classical education.' I can imagine that
dirt will return to the net, do a search on 'transmission line,' come up with some
rather involved article that he understands not at all, and will clip and paste it
here in pseudo-triumph... along with his pseudo-intellect. But understand,
everyone here, that he REALLY doesn't understand the problem, and thus
is ARITHMETIC-challenged, in spite of his claims of a 'classical education.'
Also strange, is that he has never found anything of value in respect to the
subject of this newsgroup to post here from the net, but presumes a clip and
paste will demonstrate his 'pseudo-intellectualism.' And of course... IT DOES.
There is nothing about his intellect, that is not 'pseudo.'
PV
>
> w00f
>
>>> {more snippage}
{and more}
>
> Put a grey wig on her, some wrinkles on her butt, add 20 years, and
> dirt would slobber in a sexual frenzy, thinking of his mommy when she does
> those acts to him.
>
> PV
>
> Pic clipped.
>
Heh Heh Heh. I knew someone would claim ownership.
WooF w00f WooF
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>> >> ROTFLMAO !!!!
>> > Indeed I am doing so.
>> No you're not.
> Damn, DESMOND got me again !!
See, two can play at that game ...
PV
> --
> Desmond Coughlan |WHO HASN'T ACTUALLY
|FIGURED OUT WHO HE IS
Quite right... your simplistic response proves my point. It could have
been proven more, only if you had added your signature 'Bwaahhhhaaaa.'
>Subject: Re: I Throw In the Towel ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:42:55 +0000
>
>Le Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:22:44 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> > BTW, I haven't got a ****ing clue what you're on about...
>
>>> That makes three of us.
>
>> ARITHMETIC never has been your strong suit.
>
>LeTs TaLk aBoUt YOUR sTrOnG sUiT's, tHeN SPORT. Or RaThEr lEtS TaLk
>AbOuT WhAt yOu CaNt Do. LoGiC, iNtErNaTiOnAl LaW, EnGlIsH gRaMmAr,
>eNgLiSh pRoNoUnCiAtIoN, sElF-DeFeNsE, AnD NoT FoRgEtTiNg a SeNsE oF
>hUmOuR .....
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
>desmond @ zeouane.org
>http: // www . zeouane . org
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
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>Le Mon, 15 Jul 2002 02:50:45 +0100, dirtdog <dog.of.sp...@w00f.cxm> a
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>{ snip justifiable hillaritie at PVs gross inabilitie to yooze the englissh
> langwage }
>
>> BTW, I haven't got a fucking clue what you're on about...
>
>That makes three of us.
>
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>Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:56:15 +0000
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>Le Mon, 15 Jul 2002 04:15:07 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
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>{ snip }
>
>> How's your ARITHMETIC???
>
><fx: muttermutter ... kick PV's arse once yesterday, twice today, that
> makes ... grumblemutterrhubardrhubard ... three times ...>
>
>My 'ARITHMETIC' (sic) is fine, PV. How's your logic ?
>
><fx: laughs up sleeve ...>
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>> Miss that class in your 'classical education'?
>
>LOL ... bitter, bitter is ye ol' PV ...
>
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>Le Sun, 14 Jul 2002 07:01:41 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
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>{ snip }
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>>> I could quite easily post a plethora of questions about _my_ area of
>>> 'expertise', which would keep you and your French wife (if she even
>>> exists) busy for a good few days.
>
>> And it would prove an exercise in futility since this is not a 'my dick is
>> bigger than your dick,' argument.
>
>What is STRANGE is THAT YOU SEEM to THINK it IS ...
>
>{ snip and ROTFLMAO ... like a lamb to the slaughter ... }
>
>>> Go on, PV ... challenge him to arm wrestle ... you know you want to ...
>>>
>>> R-O-T-F-L-M-A-O !!!!
>
>> As usual, you've missed the point completely. It is that your pedantic
>> arguments hold as little validity to the DP as my question. You presume
>> that you may use this useless 'pseudo-intellectual' knowledge and try
>> to intimidate others. And clearly I showed that your knowledge IS
>> a form of 'pseudo-intellectualism.' And it wounded you deeply. Otherwise,
>> you would not be going ballistic about it, as you most certainly are.
>
>LOL ... chalk up another one for Des ...
>
>--
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
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>Subject: Re: I Throw In the Towel ...
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:04:30 +0000
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>Le Sun, 14 Jul 2002 07:01:41 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
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>{ snip }
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>>> I just laugh, and laugh, and laugh at you, man. Laugh at your claims not
>>> to take me seriously, when you do precious little else on this newsgroup
>>> but respond to me and dirt. Laugh at your using as 'proof' either of
>>> my 'stupidity', or your 'intelligence', my inability to answer a question
>>> based on (I've literally forgotten the question, it was so silly) the
>>> (what was it, again ?) frequency of light (cue PV once more claiming
>>> victory, as that wasn't the question ... like I give a fuck).
>
>> ROTFLMAO... Don't make excuses for you being a vacant-eyed moron.
>
>One can extrapolate that when PV launches into abuse, it's because he
>has once more felt the 'bite' of his lack of education. Considering
>the almost constant abuse that he launches at his 'enemies', one can see
>that this insecurity is an all-too frequent occurrence.
>
>> You're actually so dense that light bends around you,
>
>Lest anyone on AADP consider PV a 'master of wit' for these little
>one-liners that he inserts into his posts, consider the archives of
>news:alt.humor (sic), which as well as the little gem that PV just tried
>to pass off as his own, also have ...
>
>'Fell out of the family tree' ...
>
>'Hard to believe that he beat 100,000 other sperm' ...
>
>'If brains were taxed, he'd get a rebate' ...
>
>'During evolution, his ancestors were in the control group' ...
>
>'If you stand close enough to him, you can hear the ocean' ...
>
>... and so on. The moral is that when PV says _anything_, one should
>seek impartial verification that he is not stealing something that he
>found on the web, and passing it off as his own. It is patently
>obvious to anyone who takes a few moments to look, that he has never
>had an original thought, and that everything he posts here, is the work
>of someone else, more intelligent.
>
>{ snip }
>
>> Certainly YOU take me VERY seriously.
>
>Who was it said, 'humour is a serious business' ? Certainly, I take
>the act of ridiculing you _very_ seriously, as I like to laugh, and
>the laugh I get at your expense on this group, is gratifying. Likewise,
>I consider it my duty here to expose you as the charlatan, the crook,
>the pseudo-intellectual that you are. That is equally gratifying, much
>like the 'Awwwww!' that goes up from the crowd when a 'magician' who had
>been hoodwinking them with sleight of hand, is unmasked.
>
>So yes, I 'take you seriously', but do not flatter yourself that it
>is your opinions that engage my curiosity or interest. You are an
>obscenity, a disgusting, perverted, twisted, bitter old man, and indeed
>even those you count as your 'friends' on here, have a great deal of
>difficulty in stomaching some of your more repugnant views.
>
>However, as is often the case, humour is the best method to combat
>that which repulses us, and so I shall continue to ground your
>face into the shit that is your own contradictions, for as long as I
>am able. At the same time, if I can get a laugh at your expense (and
>so far, it's working just 'dandy', thank you), I shan't pass up that
>chance.
>
>{ snip }
>
>> Looks like you're describing your own behavior here. Just look at the
>> subject of this thread. It started with YOU giving all those excuses why
>> you no longer considered me worth your time. Yet here you are, many
>> posts later. So... WHO has WOUND WHO up??? I'd say I've been the one
>> winding, and you've been the one coming unglued at the seams. But
>> I'm having a blast. Come on, DESMOND... just a three digit number.
>
>This is where my voice takes on the tone of a patient father talking to
>a particularly slow and intransigent child, when I say, 'You've been
>had, PV.'
>
>Bigtime.
>
>>> Like I say, I could post a few questions here about French grammar, about
>>> ealry 20th-century French feminist literature, about French law, none of
>>> which you could answer without a _lot_ of time, surfing. Even your French
>>> wife (if she exists) would have a hard time answering them.
>
>> Proving my point, sport. None of it has squat to do with the DP.
>
>You don't have a point, PV. Did you ever ? Well, perhaps, but for the
>past six months, you seem to have been doing your best to convince
>AADP that you don't. What happened, was it your birthday in January,
>and the wife bought you a thousand amps of electro-shock therapy ? She
>should have stuck to the slippers and pipe.
>
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>> I never really thought anyone TOOK such a subject as their
>> major.
>
>The problem is, as AADP has seen depressingly often of late, PV, is
>that you do not think.
>
>{ snip }
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>> You need to clean up your act, if you intend to argue the DP,
>
>Once again, the point goes sailing over the top of your little head,
>as you look up with the dumb expression of the hic from Montana, the
>first time he sees the 'silver bird' go by overhead. I'm not here
>to 'argue the DP', PV. I'm here to troll, to have fun, and take the
>piss out of anyone and everyone who gets in my way. There are some
>who are a match for me. Mark could probably, given the inclination,
>wipe the floor with me. If John could get over his fascination with
>you, he could do likewise. Cerberus could give me a run for my money,
>and as for Earl, let's just say that I'm glad he's on our 'side'.
>
>You, however ... you're my plaything. My toy. I get such fun out
>of poking you and watching you jump, that if I were a woman, I'd
>name my vibrator 'PV', just for the kick your squirming gives me.
>
>Your big mistake is that you take it seriously. I don't. You don't
>know me, and so your invective is just the frustrations of someone
>who never did what he wanted to do in life, and who knows it's too
>late. I don't take it personally. You do.
>
>Answering your posts, I feel like the arts graduate (which is what
>I am) let loose in the Space Shuttle. 'What does this button do ?
>Wow, he jumped with that one !!'
>
>You take it seriously. I don't. That is why you cannot 'beat' me.
>That is why you will never 'beat' me.
>
>Are the lights coming on yet, or do you need to have it spelled out a
>bit more ..?
>
>But back to your post ...
>
>>> I've exchanged e-mails with both retentionists and aboltionists on this
>>> group, and one of the most 'frequently asked' questions (not by either
>>> of your two sycophants, rest assured) is, 'How do you get him to
>>> respond like that ?'
>
>> Sure it is. I have also provided my e-mail address to a select few
>
>A 'select few' ... *snigger*
>
>Anyone would think that such displays of pretentiousness were done _in
>order_ that you get your 'ass' (sic) kicked ...
>
>{ snip }
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>> And now what do we have? A hysterical little boy named DESMOND,
>> who refuses to follow his own advice in a thread that he created.
>
>Another 'Stratosphere Job', apparently. The 'You've got me beat' was
>a reference to the _time_ it would take me to respond to your spams. As
>it happens, my NNTP server expired those posts just after, so I sort of
>shrugged and thought, 'What the hell ...'
>
>> It
>> is more than obvious that I am pulling the strings here, DESMOND.
>> I am the puppet-master, and you are my little puppet, responding to
>> my every tug.
>
>No, I don't want to arm wrestle you, PV.
>
>{ snip claims to have 'won' again ... *chortle* ... }
>
>>> ... and this is it : no ... no one cares, but you !!!
>
>> No... I've never counted. I only realize how I've laughed when I've seen
>> you use the phrase before.
>
>You're not laughing, PV, and no one here believes that you are. Anyone
>with a brain capable of braething (whoops! Another typo for you!!) unaided
>senses you on the back foot.
>
>>> Again, a hefty bout of laughing ensues ... I change tracks on my Laura
>>> Pausini CD ... the One comes out of the bedroom ... when are you coming to
>>> bed ? ... j'arrive, mon Amour ... but oh, this is fun ...
>
>> Give her a bwaahhhaaaaaa for me, okay???
>
>Well She regularly gives me a 'MDR' on the occasions She reads your
>posts. She read this one, as I was replying to it, and couldn't
>figure out why you were drawing attention to others' typos, whilst
>accusing those who did the same with yours of 'pedantry'. I shrugged
>and said, 'C'est son truc ...' to which She replied, 'Il est con, c'mec!'
>
>Far be it from me to disagree with Her ...
>
>She doesn't really give a flying fuck about the death penalty. Well
>even the One can have some imperfections ...
>
>>> > since it is such a silly remark to
>>> > begin with, and everyone knows it doesn't mean squat?
>
>>> No, everyone who knows the first thing about UNIX (and I'm a long way
>>> from being an expert ... I reckon QZD 'whups [sic] my ass [sic]' when
>>> it comes to UNIX), says, 'Oh ... OK.'
>
>> No... I don't believe that for a minute. Everyone who knows anything
>> about unix, looks at it and remarks -- 'What a nerd.'
>
><patient father voice>
>No, PV. They say, 'Oh, OK.'
></pfv>
>
>{ snip }
>
>> where the hell is my list???
>
>Why not check for it on google ? You _do_ know how to use a search
>engine, don't you ?
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> You're excelling yourself, PV ... _this_ is what John calls 'more than a
>>> match' ? *snort* ...
>
>> Umm... needless to say. Your counterargument here is rather flimsy.
>
>And once again, the 'silver bird' flies overhead ... I don't _need_
>a 'counterargument' when the only 'argument' that I have in front of
>me is, 'My dick is bigger than yours.'
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> <fx: winks at QZD>
>
>> And hopes Mr. D. will respond in some small way so he can claim him as
>> 'his friend.'
>
>I consider QZD as a friend. He is on record as stating the same. Yet
>he has criticised me on here, and vice versa. The 'we're here to troll'
>aspect of AADP seems to be augmenting the air traffic in your 'native'
>Montana more than you'd care to admit, PV.
>
>{ snip out of pity }
>
>Give it your best shot, PV ... ROTFLMAO !!!!
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
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>http: // www . zeouane . org
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>Subject: Re: I Throw In the Towel ...
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:51:25 +0000
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>Le Mon, 15 Jul 2002 04:15:08 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
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>{ snip }
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>>> ROTFLMAO ... don't you get splinters ... sorry, splinter's in your
>>> hand's from the bottom of that barrel, PV ..?
>
>> SLURP... SLURP... SLURP. Jesus, DESMOND, it's disgusting how
>> pathetically slavish and subservient you've become to that mongrel.
>
>Well I've heard Him called a lot of things, from 'prophet' through to
>insignificant long-haired Jew, but hell, 'mongrel' ? Why not ?
>
>> Have you no pride left at all?
>
>I left it at the door, the day I decided to get into the pit with
>you, PV ...
>
>{ snip }
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>> Regrettably for you, you have your head up and firmly locked,
>
>That's possible, but at least I still breathe air, whilst the only
>'sustenance' you appear to have, are your own anal gases ...
>
>> and I now
>> intend to yet again make you look less than 'clever.'
>
>Like, that would bother me ... not !!
>
>I don't have anything to prove here, PV. I have a classical
>education, in a university. Can you say the same ?
>
>{ snip cos I'm tired }
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>>> Even if that were true (which it is not), I don't post in relation to
>>> typos ... sorry, typo's. Everyone makes them, and they're usually
>>> pretty easy to 'decypher'. I only draw attention to the huge gaps
>>> in your ability to manipulate English, by making such elementary errors
>>> as apostrophe placement, and (as an example) 'insure', and 'ensure'. And
>>> you have the bare-faced cheek to whinge because Jürgen doesn't write
>>> perfect English. ROTFLMAO !!! You're (supposedly) a native English
>>> speaker. Jürgen has an excuse. You don't, other than the one that we can
>>> all observe on a clear day from across the ocean : you're a moron with
>>> an ego as big as Mount Rushmore, and an IQ which is hovering bordeline
>>> 'Mouth Breather'.
>
>> Nonetheless... I KNOW who I am...
>
>Well all know 'who you are', PV. A wanker.
>
>> while you are apparently undergoing
>> an 'identity crisis.'
>
>Indeed. Am I your worst enemy on AADP, or your second worse enemy ?
>
>dirt and I shall have to fight this one to the death.
>
>Or something.
>
>> Plus you don't know squat about ARITHMETIC.
>
>Sure I do ...
>
>Number of posts where PV's got the better of me ... 0
>Number of posts where I've to the better of PV ... x
>
>(where x is the number of posts I've directed at PV, times pi, divided
>by the radian of the Paris Big Wheel, add 62.5, and take away the number
>I first thought of)
>
>{ snip remainder of PV claiming victory }
>
>Wow .... I wish I were drunk, to be able to read bullshit like what you
>just posted ... still, I daresay I shal read it again. planetvisitor.pl
>has a limited 'while --> do' loop ...
>
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>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
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Okay... so you are trying to make an excuse for being a vacant-eyed moron.
> > You're actually so dense that light bends around you,
>
> Lest anyone on AADP consider PV a 'master of wit' for these little
> one-liners that he inserts into his posts, consider the archives of
> news:alt.humor (sic), which as well as the little gem that PV just tried
> to pass off as his own, also have ...
>
Everyone knows that phrases such as that are not original, you moron.
I never claimed they were. You're hardly 'original' for pointig that out.
You've never had an original thought in your life. Except for hoping to
pair dirt with your Mrs. and breed another creature from the Omen.
And clearly my remark when you 'announced' your 'marriage' (sic), and
I connected that to the cloning of Dolly, was original and has become
legend here. Witness that 2 years later it is still the butt of a joke on you.
> 'Fell out of the family tree' ...
>
ho ho ho. Come on, DESMOND... where's that sense of humor... that comment
fits you like a glove.
> 'Hard to believe that he beat 100,000 other sperm' ...
>
You have to admit, it's a challenge to understand how it happened.
> 'If brains were taxed, he'd get a rebate' ...
>
Haven't used that one, but if you think it's an appropriate description of you...
> 'During evolution, his ancestors were in the control group' ...
>
Didn't use that either... but you must admit that you stand as
a shining example of catagenesis (retrogressive evolution).
> 'If you stand close enough to him, you can hear the ocean' ...
No... actually it's that SLURP....SLURP... SLURP that we hear when
you suck up to dirt.
> ... and so on. The moral is that when PV says _anything_, one should
> seek impartial verification that he is not stealing something that he
> found on the web, and passing it off as his own. It is patently
> obvious to anyone who takes a few moments to look, that he has never
> had an original thought, and that everything he posts here, is the work
> of someone else, more intelligent.
>
Ummm... Dolly....Dolly... Dolly... Shall I repeat it? When you announced
your 'marriage' (sic), your Mother (Becky), remarked in a thread she
titled 'Desmond, let us all wish him well' ---
"Desmond will be entering the neuropsychiatric unit at Johns Hopkins
hospital in Baltimore, MD USA in a few days....."
And I replied --
"No, he's not. I hear he's marrying someone named Dolly, in
a few days. Someone from Scotland."
And then followed that up immediately with another quizzical post --
"Good Grief...I just thought of something! Her name is DOLLY!
And she's from SCOTLAND!...You don't think?.....No....that
couldn't be.....Not even Desi......Is that legal in Scotland????"
Now, first... let me say... with a deep sense of pride, dashed with
some humble humility, ... That was one of the best putdowns you
will ever see. You are from Scotland, you just announced you were
going to marry, and Dolly had just been cloned. Ho ho ho... Brilliant!!!
And you will find no mention of a connection between you and Dolly
before that post. This was a post created on 25 April 2000. So,
yes... I have zinged you with an original, that has stood the test of
time through the two year interval. BTW -- How IS 'dolly'? Give her
a Bwaaahhhhhaaaa for me, okay? And understand that your
secret is safe with me, DESMOND.
And of course, I must admit that YOU'VE had some 'original' (sic)
thoughts... like paraphrasing a few of your 'thoughts' ---
1) The Balkans are not in Europe.
2) Neither are Latvia nor Estonia.
3) The dead cannot be honored
4) The Lockerbie disaster was caused by wind shear
(oops -- that's Clear Air Turbulence, folks).
5) When asked "Theodore Frank is about to be executed - you
can set him free. Do you?" You made what is perhaps the
most simplistic, yet frighteningly unaware one word comment
we can imagine --- You said -- "Yes"
6) In matters of morals, Europe has led the world for over two
thousand years. That literally, almost caused me to pee in my
pants laughing.
7) 'America' and 'The United States' are not synonyms
8) Osamo bin-Laden had absolutely nothing to do with the
events of 11 September
9) But he knows who did. And so does the Bush Administration,
and so does Mossad.
10) I'd put my money on either Israel, or Pakistan being
behind the attacks.
11) "If it's legal, it's moral, Jed." and then very shortly later
"What is legal can be perfectly immoral."
12) In one post you fear death, and would crap your drawers
if faced with it. In another you remark that death holds no
fear for you.
13) You hide your posts to AADP because you want to.
14) France has constitutionally protected speech. Forgetting
a few FACTS.
15) posting to Jigsaw "and send that 16-year-old niece of yours
around to give me a blowjob whenever I want one." (Jesus... did
I 'clip' this, or copy it? Because the period is in the right place.
Striking!!!)
16) Accusing me of being a pedophile.
All in all, just a start, and a sickly mess of gooey slime it is.
> { snip }
>
> > Certainly YOU take me VERY seriously.
>
> Who was it said, 'humour is a serious business' ?
Bozo the Clown?
<pathetic whine, which contained nothing but vitriol posed in more
'meaningless drivel' clipped>
>
> { snip }
>
> > Looks like you're describing your own behavior here. Just look at the
> > subject of this thread. It started with YOU giving all those excuses why
> > you no longer considered me worth your time. Yet here you are, many
> > posts later. So... WHO has WOUND WHO up??? I'd say I've been the one
> > winding, and you've been the one coming unglued at the seams. But
> > I'm having a blast. Come on, DESMOND... just a three digit number.
>
> This is where my voice takes on the tone of a patient father talking to
> a particularly slow and intransigent child, when I say, 'You've been
> had, PV.'
>
> Bigtime.
>
ROTFLMAO.. The 'patient father' who doesn't know ARITHMETIC, nor
where a comma and period go. You need to understand something,
sport... when I inflict corrective punishment on you (and God... I do it
so often), I do not do it with simplistic phrases, and 'meaningless
drivel.' I present FACTS, and the examples of your own words. While
you just drone on and on and on... saying nothing but one insult after
another but making no rational sense in any respect. Or on the other
hand, you make a one-line moronic, incomprehensible, paedomorphic
remark you presume makes you look clever. Give me some QUOTES,
to back up your silly comments, such as I do in---
1) My short 16 remarks of what you've previously said, above
2) Your obstinate refusal to accept that you are unaware where the
comma and period go in the English language (but profess such a
grand 'classical' background in that language being a 'native' (sic)
English speaker). And you cannot claim they are a typo (while
it is obvious that your obsessive pointing out of '****with' IS an
obvious typo). Because you do it ALL THE TIME. You NEVER
get it right. (well, maybe that one time, above).
3) Your confusion yesterday as to my posting to you the phrase
'too big,' where you not only cannot find that, nor anything similar
to that from me, and have obviously confused yourself with dirt.
(an understandable confusion, of course).
4) Your inability in that huge ego you have, to admit that ARITHMETIC
frightens you. Words that are unfamiliar to you, such as 'resonant,'
'speed of light,' 'frequency,' 'transmission line,' 'powers of ten,'
and even 'arithmetic' all cause grid-lock in your brain cells. Not because
you don't understand that the words have a certain meaning, but that
you don't wish to delve any deeper then that surface meaning. That
thin surface will suffice for you. Typical of those with 'liberal arts' (sic)
degrees in disciplines that are easy to gain a degree. And usually,
as you, they become very self-conscious about the depth of their
education. And this was part of the trivial exercise and, trick I
played on you, to show your limitations in any claim to a 'classical'
education. Because there is a huge gap there. You are frightened
by things you don't understand. Such as your confusion when you
were 'mugged' or almost 'mugged,' or whatever, and you needed to
REASSURE yourself, in front of your compadres here that you still
opposed the DP. In some sort of emotional catharsis, intended to
presume you were baring your 'soul' (sic). You continual interject
these quaint little 'tabloids' of 'personal experiences' (such as 'firebomb'
and 'Baltimore County Police'), which no one cares about. But then
you try to USE them, unproven, to prove OTHER points that you
CANNOT prove. And finally, you are frightened by the big, bad U.S.
And it is normal that you would react as you do about things that you
fear, such as death. Try to get some help.
Now I've obviously, as I've done with dirt so often before, caused you
some red-faced embarrassment. That's plain for everyone to see.
But let's face it... your really have no mental ammunition to speak
of, and mostly fire clumsy blanks. The ONLY 'weapon' (sic) you have to
retaliate is not a demonstration of an ability to communication, but a
demonstration of your INABILITY to communicate. A total meltdown
of any attempt to demonstrate even a modicum of intelligence from you.
Like your "Evil is from the right." More of the "meaningless drivel" I speak
of. Even dirt excels far greater than you in that particular area, since he
often TRIES to express (and fails of course) some rational argument.
You're simply all wind and gas. And usually provide a SLURPING
sound when you see dirt try to make a 'rational' (sic) argument, hoping
you can grab his 'coat-tails.' And your present agenda to try to gain
'friends' here, can only be described as grotesque. Just an over-inflated
gas-bag, hoping to, as you've said.. make the group, and all in it, your own.
Because you failed so miserably when you tried to create another
group of your own. Are you obsessive?? Tell me about it.
> >> Like I say, I could post a few questions here about French grammar, about
> >> ealry 20th-century French feminist literature, about French law, none of
> >> which you could answer without a _lot_ of time, surfing. Even your French
> >> wife (if she exists) would have a hard time answering them.
>
> > Proving my point, sport. None of it has squat to do with the DP.
>
> You don't have a point, PV. Did you ever ? Well, perhaps, but for the
> past six months, you seem to have been doing your best to convince
> AADP that you don't. What happened, was it your birthday in January,
> and the wife bought you a thousand amps of electro-shock therapy ? She
> should have stuck to the slippers and pipe.
>
And yours knitted you a sweater from her own hair...emmm.. wool.
ROTFLMAO.
> { snip }
>
> > I never really thought anyone TOOK such a subject as their
> > major.
>
> The problem is, as AADP has seen depressingly often of late, PV, is
> that you do not think.
>
I think that 'Feminist French Literature' literally reeks of the appearance of
a blockhead trying to gain an education. It's the flimsiest excuse for
an education, since 'Basket Weaving' was removed from the curriculum.
Have you ever considered a "REAL" education? And I need to observe
that you seem very defensive about your education (as dirt does as
well), which generally shows itself when someone attacks another who,
such as I, makes no real claim to having an exceptional education.
Constantly harping on MY lack, causes others to wonder, if you
might possibly fear it, since you express so often that you don'f fear it.
And constantly remarking on YOUR 'classical education' causes others
to wonder as well. I think in the end, you're rather ASHAMED of the
limits you realize your education has provided, rather than the scope.
Like the guy who's married to a 'dog' of a woman (or a 'sheep' as the
case may be), and constantly ridicules the beauty of the wives of other
men. A wasted education studying the works of some hack called
de Bouvier.. See
http://www.scrllamas.com/fs009.htm
whose only claim to fame is sleeping with another hack. But I'm sure
you breezed right through your finals. I had some little item called
"Elementary (nothing 'elementary' about them) Differential Equations."
And I still remember the name "Rudin," who wrote a quaint little tome
that still drives everyone up the wall, almost 40 years after its first
publication, as it did me as well.
> { snip }
>
> > You need to clean up your act, if you intend to argue the DP,
>
<hysterically 'funny' (sic) raving clipped as DESMOND becomes tiresome
and certainly obsessive>
> Give it your best shot, PV ... ROTFLMAO !!!!
>
Been there... done that... you're a lightweight. Say hello to Dolly for me.
> --
> Desmond Coughlan
BTW -- Some you missed that apply quite readily to you --
Your existence seems to demonstrate that interbreeding is
genetically possible with creatures other than in our universe.
When you open your mouth, it's only to change whichever foot
was previously there.
When I read your posts, I can already picture duct tape over your
mouth.
You seem to have a full 6-pack, but lack the plastic thingy to hold
it together.
The fact that no one understands you, doesn't mean you've said
something clever
If you were any more stupid, you'd have to be watered twice a week.
You're obviously one neuron short of a synapse.
Some drink from the fountain of knowledge, you only gargled.
(Oh, God... that one could have been written expressly for YOU)
Your wheel is turning, but the hamster is dead.
You would be out of your depth in a parking lot puddle.
You have delusions of adequacy.
You set low personal standards and then consistently fails to achieve
them.
You are depriving a village somewhere of an idiot.
You should go far and the sooner you start, the better.
You're not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
You got into the gene pool when the lifeguard wasn't watching.
You have a room temperature IQ.
You're a gross ignoramus - 144 times worse than an ordinary ignoramus.
You have a photographic memory but the lens cover is glued on.
You're a prime candidate for natural de-selection.
You're as bright as Alaska in December.
One-celled organisms outscore you in IQ tests.
You obviously donated your brain to science before you were done using it.
You fell out of the family tree.
dirt would follow you anywhere, but only out of morbid curiosity.
>
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>
> (I bet he mentions Pagesjaunes ... bwaaaahahahahahahaha !!!!)
>
You lose. Of course, you've never 'won.'
That won't fly anymore than the 'Baltimore County Police' (sic) has flown.
Nor has 'logic' ever bothered you in your 'presentations' (sic).
>
> <fx: laughs up sleeve ...>
>
> > Miss that class in your 'classical education'?
>
> LOL ... bitter, bitter is ye ol' PV ...
>
Pitiful, DESMOND.... truly one of your more pitiful, and patently obsessive
responses Demonstrating your absolute inability to recognize how badly
you've been spanked in certain threads that you should no longer touch.
But ego drives you on, sport. Too bad I can't get you to answer the fact
that you accused me of posting a remark of 'too big,' to you, which is
apparently a lie since you now ignore that claim, and demonstrates your
head is still twirling in trying to figure out who you actually are. Or get
you to comment on your placement of periods and commas, now that
you've been shown to not be that great in 'native' English, as you pronounced.
You have this habit of ignoring those times when you have been categorically
shown to be a fool. But others can see it.
Actually, he's been called that before.
>
> > Have you no pride left at all?
>
> I left it at the door, the day I decided to get into the pit with
> you, PV ...
>
That's rather obvious, since you certainly don't have it here, even if
you ever did. The capacity to embarrass yourself no longer exists.
Having been worn away by so many instances of you experiencing such
embarrassment. Generally at my hand... thank you kindly.
> { snip }
>
> > Regrettably for you, you have your head up and firmly locked,
>
> That's possible, but at least I still breathe air, whilst the only
> 'sustenance' you appear to have, are your own anal gases ...
>
Oh, gee... quite a riposte. Did you get that off the net?
> > and I now
> > intend to yet again make you look less than 'clever.'
>
> Like, that would bother me ... not !!
>
Obviously not... see above, re: embarrassment... not.
> I don't have anything to prove here, PV. I have a classical
> education, in a university. Can you say the same ?
>
Umm... read my other post, sport. The more you 'claim' it,
the less believable it becomes. And having read to the bottom
and returned here, it's certainly less believable than before.
It's as if you have this desperate need to 'prove' you do.
And you think you can do so, through hoping to diminish me.
Simply put... I don't claim anything for myself. But I do claim
there are GAPING HOLES in YOUR 'classical' (sic) education.
And one of those holes seems to be you don't understand the
difference between arithmetic and algebra.
> { snip cos I'm tired }
>
> >> Even if that were true (which it is not), I don't post in relation to
> >> typos ... sorry, typo's. Everyone makes them, and they're usually
> >> pretty easy to 'decypher'. I only draw attention to the huge gaps
> >> in your ability to manipulate English, by making such elementary errors
> >> as apostrophe placement, and (as an example) 'insure', and 'ensure'. And
> >> you have the bare-faced cheek to whinge because Jürgen doesn't write
> >> perfect English. ROTFLMAO !!! You're (supposedly) a native English
> >> speaker. Jürgen has an excuse. You don't, other than the one that we can
> >> all observe on a clear day from across the ocean : you're a moron with
> >> an ego as big as Mount Rushmore, and an IQ which is hovering bordeline
> >> 'Mouth Breather'.
>
> > Nonetheless... I KNOW who I am...
>
> Well all know 'who you are', PV. A wanker.
>
Another overpowering piece of 'fluff.'
> > while you are apparently undergoing
> > an 'identity crisis.'
>
> Indeed. Am I your worst enemy on AADP, or your second worse enemy ?
>
Actually, you're just a simpleton. No more than that to me. My
little plaything... I am the 'puppet master' pulling the strings, and
watching DESMOND dance to a jig called 'I have a classical
education... ho ho ho.'
> dirt and I shall have to fight this one to the death.
>
> Or something.
You seem to be drifting into la la land here, DESMOND. Is it the
wine?
>
> > Plus you don't know squat about ARITHMETIC.
>
> Sure I do ...
>
> Number of posts where PV's got the better of me ... 0
> Number of posts where I've to the better of PV ... x
>
> (where x is the number of posts I've directed at PV, times pi, divided
> by the radian of the Paris Big Wheel, add 62.5, and take away the number
> I first thought of)
>
ROTFLMAO. Actually demonstrating that you ARE mathematics-challenged.
What you are expressing is NOT arithmetic. It is called 'algebra.'
You really should learn the terminology, at least. Algebra contains
symbols (such as your 'x') in place of numbers which can take on
different values. Arithmetic is concerned with the manipulation of known
values, not symbols. Simply add, subtract, multiply and divide NUMBERS.
Only arithmetic (which is considered before any concept of algebra) was
necessary for my problem. Cheee... your 'classical education' keeps
getting fuzzier and fuzzier. You should perhaps consider quitting while
you are still at the starting gate. Bare your bottom for a well-deserved...
Spank....spank...spank.
> { snip remainder of PV claiming victory }
Let's hope in your response you don't clip my PROOF of victory.
>
> Wow .... I wish I were drunk, to be able to read bullshit like what you
> just posted ... still, I daresay I shal read it again. planetvisitor.pl
> has a limited 'while --> do' loop ...
>
I think when you read your little 'error' you'll not be so 'flip.' And probably
feel a greater need to get drunk, to forget the spanking given to you.
Arithmetic... indeed. Damn, what is that now? Three 'kills' in 2
days. This one. Your hysterical claim that I abused you about
'too big' words. And your placement of periods and commas. All
in all... a great 24 + hours. My little 'classically educated' puppet!!
Loved all that. Am archiving for future use as necessary.
> "Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
> news:slrnaj3513.2hlb....@lievre.voute.net...
> > Le Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:32:13 +0100, dirtdog
> > <dog.of.sp...@w00f.cxm>
> a écrit :
> >
> > >> reation.
> >
> > > Quick! Add that to your 'list'.
> >
> > LOL ...
> >
> > --
> > Desmond Coughlan
>
>
> What an apt title for this thread!
Yes. I'm skipping through it but hoping to come across another post in
which doggie uses the word "cunt".
Mr Q. Z. D.
--
Drinker, systems administrator, wannabe writer, musician and all-round bastard.
"...Base 8 is just like base 10 really... ((o))
If you're missing two fingers." - Tom Lehrer ((O))
{ snip }
>> One can extrapolate that when PV launches into abuse, it's because he
>> has once more felt the 'bite' of his lack of education. Considering
>> the almost constant abuse that he launches at his 'enemies', one can see
>> that this insecurity is an all-too frequent occurrence.
> Okay... so you are trying to make an excuse for being a vacant-eyed moron.
LOL ... a graduate of the 'Don Kool When Losing Repeat the Last Statement'
school, I see ...
>> > You're actually so dense that light bends around you,
>> Lest anyone on AADP consider PV a 'master of wit' for these little
>> one-liners that he inserts into his posts, consider the archives of
>> news:alt.humor (sic), which as well as the little gem that PV just tried
>> to pass off as his own, also have ...
> Everyone knows that phrases such as that are not original, you moron.
ROTFLMAO !!!
Does anyone take this idiot that is PV, seriously, anymore ? What you
don't seem to realise, is that you've lost, PV. Whether the death
penalty is right, or wrong, is no longer of any importance ... you
have lost !!!
Oh, I'm trying not to split my sides laughing ... but I must. This is
one of those 'Golden Posts' where PV's own stupidity, own pretentiousness,
own inflated ego, will be his downfall. I'm relishing this like a fine
wine, like a good blowjob, like a twisty country road, when the sun's
shining, the road is dry, and I feel at one with my bike, as I tip her
into the bends.
Wait ...
<fx: moves back to top of post and removes X-No-Archive flag>
Better. Oh, this is gonna be soooo much fun. AADP regulars will
forever remember what they were doing just prior to reading this
post, just as they recall the assassination of President Kennedy,
the attacks on the World Trade Center (sic), or the death of Princess
Diana. In ten years, when I am no longer posting here, and PV is
six feet under, AADP will still exist. Its ... sorry, it's charter
at that time, will be 'For people in favour of the re-introduction of
the death penalty in the United States'.
(note the full stop outside the 'quotes' (sic)).
Your departure from this group, in abject shame at being a perverted
old tosspot, will not happen today, or tomorrow. But when it happens,
this post will be remembered as The Post that sent you on your way. The
Post that sealed your humiliation, and ensured that never, ever again,
would anyone take you seriously on this group.
> I never claimed they were. You're hardly 'original' for pointig that out.
One can almost imagine the scene. A trailer on the outskirts of Tampa
Bay. A fan is running in the corner. Tammy Wynette is playing on the
radio, 'Stand by Your Man!'. A half-empty bottle of Southern Comfort
is on the mantlepiece. A chubby dark-haired woman is sitting on the
sofa, looking at a picture of Elvis. To her left is a small desk,
squeezed into the confines of the trailer's tail, between the
toilet and the bunk. Seated at the desk, hunched over a keyboard, is
a grey-haired man. Slight of build, but hard to tell when he is
seated, eyes watery and yellow. His thinning hair is tied back in a
ponytail. In his right hand he holds a Gauloise. In his left, a
glass of Southern Comfort.
'Damn you, Desi!' he yells at the screen.
'Mais Planète, calme-toi ...'
'The fucker got me again, goddamit !!!'
I digress. Such is my delight at writing this post, at confirming what
most everyone knew on the group ... that you're a fraud ... such is my
delight, that I drift off into a reverie.
> You've never had an original thought in your life. Except for hoping to
> pair dirt with your Mrs. and breed another creature from the Omen.
Ho ! Ho ! Ho !
Which website did you steal that one from ? Oh, and it's 'Mrs'. There is
no 'period' (sic) after the title. LOL ... isn't there a song somewhere
about lambs to the slaughter ?
> And clearly my remark when you 'announced' your 'marriage' (sic), and
> I connected that to the cloning of Dolly, was original and has become
> legend here.
Really ?
<fx: laugh up sleeve ...>
Keep going ...
> Witness that 2 years later it is still the butt of a joke on you.
ROTFLMAO !!!!!!
{ snip one-liners that PV had been intending to steal and pass off as
his own }
>> ... and so on. The moral is that when PV says _anything_, one should
>> seek impartial verification that he is not stealing something that he
>> found on the web, and passing it off as his own. It is patently
>> obvious to anyone who takes a few moments to look, that he has never
>> had an original thought, and that everything he posts here, is the work
>> of someone else, more intelligent.
> Ummm... Dolly....Dolly... Dolly... Shall I repeat it?
Please do.
> When you announced your 'marriage' (sic)
LOL ... PV the Walking Breast.
> , your Mother (Becky),
'Actually' (sic), Drewl using a '50 Free Hours on AOL' CD ...
{ snip }
> "No, he's not. I hear he's marrying someone named Dolly, in
> a few days. Someone from Scotland."
That's right, you did say that. Which proves that you're a fuckwit
(yes, again), as my wife is French, and I had stated this on several
occasions. Still, keep going ... this is fun ...
> And then followed that up immediately with another quizzical post --
>
> "Good Grief...I just thought of something! Her name is DOLLY!
> And she's from SCOTLAND!...You don't think?.....No....that
> couldn't be.....Not even Desi......Is that legal in Scotland????"
Yes, I remember the almost universal condemnation that that post
earned you. But keep going ...
> Now, first... let me say... with a deep sense of pride, dashed with
> some humble humility, ... That was one of the best putdowns you
> will ever see.
No, it was in fact a puerile comment, made by PV to show (unwittingly ...
does he ever do anything else ? 'Witless' would probably be more
appropriate ...) that he's a tit with no originality, no 'wit', and no
idea of irony, humour, or (we've since learned) logic. But keep going ...
> You are from Scotland,
Ireland, in fact. But keep going ...
> you just announced you were going to marry, and Dolly had just been
> cloned.
Well, Dolly hadn't 'just' been cloned, but we shall get to that one later.
Keep going ...
<fx: PV feels the jaws of the trap closing ...>
> Ho ho ho... Brilliant!!!
If you say so.
> And you will find no mention of a connection between you and Dolly
> before that post.
Not any posts that mention her by name, no. But keep going ...
<fx: PV runs another google search, realises that he's in for the
biggest hiding of his AADP 'career', and whispers, 'Oh, shit ...'>
> This was a post created on 25 April 2000.
It was indeed. Keep going ...
> So, yes... I have zinged you with an original,
Erm, no.
> that has stood the test of time through the two year interval.
Finished ?
Feel better now ?
Good.
Right, well in fact, much as PV would once more like to pass another's
'work' off as his own, he was as usual, copying someone else.
This google link ...
... will lead you to the thread.
The sheep Dolly was cloned in February 1997, I believe. The first refernce
on the web that I could find, was this one ...
url:http://www.cnn.com/TECH/9702/25/clone.creators/
As anyone can see, that is a good three years before PV made his 'oh-
so-original' remark here.
billybob's article did not mention the name of the sheep, which is why
PV didn't find it whilst looking through google. However, as the
post was made just after the successful cloning of the sheep, there can
be no doubt that billybob was referring to Dolly.
PV has - again - been caught out trying to appear original, when he is
anything but. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you ...
T h e F r a u d
Starring ... PV
And ... PV
With Special Guest Stars ... PV
Tonight's Episode ... 'How to Plagariaze and Get Caught'.
{ snip the rest, for PV has just had a very large, corrugated wooden
pole rammed up his arse so hard that he is the only man alive to
have two Adam's Apples ...>
Now, if you had the brains you were born with, you would drop this
particular thread. I've just shown, using the google references of
which you are so fond, that a post which you made in the year 2000, and
which you claimed with (what was the expression again ?) 'some degree
of pride', to be original, was in fact a poor (and I mean _poor_. Christ,
copying billybob ... have you no shame, man ??!!) imitation of someone
else's stuff.
Yet another victory for Des. This is getting too easy ...
<fx: checks that 'X-No-Archive' is gone. Good ... let's post ...>
>Subject: Re: I Throw In the Towel ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:52:05 +0000
>
>Le Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:59:10 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>>> >> >> ROTFLMAO !!!!
>
>>> >> > Indeed I am doing so.
>
>>> >> No you're not.
>
>>> > Damn, DESMOND got me again !!
>
>>> See, two can play at that game ...
>
>> First, you have to figure out exactly WHO you are, before you can
>> 'play any games.'
>
>Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ...........
>
>As it is now, you possibly still believe you are dirt.
>
>Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ....
>
>> Figure out who I remarked to on words 'too big' yet?
>
><fx: turns over and pulls covers up to ears ...>
>
>Zzzzzzzzzz ..... Zzzzzzzzzzz ..........
>
>> And where's that damn apology?
>
>OK. PV, I'm sorry for goading you and watching you squeal, but it's
>soooooo easy ...
>
>
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>Subject: Re: I Throw In the Towel ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:22:19 +0000
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
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Ooops a daisy
>billybob's article did not mention the name of the sheep, which is why
>PV didn't find it whilst looking through google. However, as the
>post was made just after the successful cloning of the sheep, there can
>be no doubt that billybob was referring to Dolly.
Desi, actually it was a fellow countryman of yours, Ian Harris who first told
us about your carnal knowledge of sheep.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=+%22morag%22+group:alt.activism.death-pe
nalty&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=ESk8RNAP24gyEwwh%40maudit.demon.co.
uk&rnum=3
Shortly afterward we discussed your latex goat suit and you again mentioned
sheep.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=+%22latex+goat+suit%22+group:alt.activis
m.death-penalty&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=fsKqTiAXzyqyEwh0%40maudit
.demon.co.uk&rnum=1
William Robert
> Wait ...
>
> <fx: moves back to top of post and removes X-No-Archive flag>
>
> Better. Oh, this is gonna be soooo much fun. AADP regulars will
> forever remember what they were doing just prior to reading this
> post, just as they recall the assassination of President Kennedy,
> the attacks on the World Trade Center (sic), or the death of Princess
> Diana. In ten years, when I am no longer posting here, and PV is
> six feet under, AADP will still exist. Its ... sorry, it's charter
> at that time, will be 'For people in favour of the re-introduction of
> the death penalty in the United States'.
>
Actually, you are simply repeating 'meaningless drivel.' Can you
get to the point, before you begin blessing yourself?
> (note the full stop outside the 'quotes' (sic)).
>
> Your departure from this group, in abject shame at being a perverted
> old tosspot, will not happen today, or tomorrow. But when it happens,
> this post will be remembered as The Post that sent you on your way. The
> Post that sealed your humiliation, and ensured that never, ever again,
> would anyone take you seriously on this group.
>
Not hardly, sport. Not as long as you don't realize the difference
between 'algebra' and 'arithmetic.' And not as long as my little
booklet keeps getting thicker and thicker.
> > I never claimed they were. You're hardly 'original' for pointing that out.
> 'The ****er got me again, goddamit !!!'
Potty mouth. And meaningless drivel combined. You're outdoing yourself.
>
> I digress. Such is my delight at writing this post, at confirming what
> most everyone knew on the group ... that you're a fraud ... such is my
> delight, that I drift off into a reverie.
>
Get to the point, you silly shit, and stop dribbling down your chin.
> > You've never had an original thought in your life. Except for hoping to
> > pair dirt with your Mrs. and breed another creature from the Omen.
>
> Ho ! Ho ! Ho !
>
> Which website did you steal that one from ?
That's for you to find out, if you wish to claim I did. Which I didn't.
> > And clearly my remark when you 'announced' your 'marriage' (sic), and
> > I connected that to the cloning of Dolly, was original and has become
> > legend here.
>
> Really ?
>
Yes, really.
> <fx: laugh up sleeve ...>
Not an easy task, considering where your head is.
> Keep going ...
>
> > Witness that 2 years later it is still the butt of a joke on you.
>
> ROTFLMAO !!!!!!
>
Are you denying that the name 'Dolly' has not stuck here?
> >> ... and so on. The moral is that when PV says _anything_, one should
> >> seek impartial verification that he is not stealing something that he
> >> found on the web, and passing it off as his own. It is patently
> >> obvious to anyone who takes a few moments to look, that he has never
> >> had an original thought, and that everything he posts here, is the work
> >> of someone else, more intelligent.
>
> > Ummm... Dolly....Dolly... Dolly... Shall I repeat it?
>
> Please do.
>
Dolly...Dolly...Dolly. And I can imagine, if you removed your sacred
killfile, you would see how you are being pilloried here and now with
that name.
> > When you announced your 'marriage' (sic)
>
> LOL ... PV the Walking Breast.
>
LOL... DESMOND... the Wanking Beast. And that's ALL mine, sport.
> > , your Mother (Becky),
>
> 'Actually' (sic), Drewl using a '50 Free Hours on AOL' CD ...
>
No... come on... she's your real mom. Why would ANYONE
lie about something like that?
> { snip }
>
> > "No, he's not. I hear he's marrying someone named Dolly, in
> > a few days. Someone from Scotland."
>
> That's right, you did say that. Which proves that you're a ****wit
> (yes, again), as my wife is French, and I had stated this on several
> occasions. Still, keep going ... this is fun ...
>
Nah, DESMOND... it's just meaningless drivel. No fun at all watching
you self-destruct. While working yourself into a frenzy of anticipation.
> > And then followed that up immediately with another quizzical post --
> >
> > "Good Grief...I just thought of something! Her name is DOLLY!
> > And she's from SCOTLAND!...You don't think?.....No....that
> > couldn't be.....Not even Desi......Is that legal in Scotland????"
>
> Yes, I remember the almost universal condemnation that that post
> earned you. But keep going ...
>
ROTFLMAO... That's not the way I recall it. I believe it got me in
your killfile, as I recall.
> > Now, first... let me say... with a deep sense of pride, dashed with
> > some humble humility, ... That was one of the best putdowns you
> > will ever see.
>
> No, it was in fact a puerile comment, made by PV to show (unwittingly ...
> does he ever do anything else ? 'Witless' would probably be more
> appropriate ...) that he's a tit with no originality, no 'wit', and no
> idea of irony, humour, or (we've since learned) logic. But keep going ...
>
No... in fact, DESMOND. That was exactly what it was. A putdown.
From your almost hysterically ecstatic announcement, which not
one soul gave a damn about, that you were about to marry.... and
the connection to Dolly, no less. You leave yourself so open to
ridicule with your quaint little 'dear diary... today I did a wheelie,'
comments that it has left you no sense of shame, having been
ridiculed so often. Even when you make a fool of yourself, as
now... you continue to defy the statistics of embarrassment.
> > You are from Scotland,
>
> Ireland, in fact. But keep going ...
Pardon me???
>
> > you just announced you were going to marry, and Dolly had just been
> > cloned.
>
> Well, Dolly hadn't 'just' been cloned, but we shall get to that one later.
> Keep going ...
>
You had just been married.
> <fx: PV feels the jaws of the trap closing ...>
>
DESMOND goes off half-cocked.
> > Ho ho ho... Brilliant!!!
>
> If you say so.
>
But I do.
> > And you will find no mention of a connection between you and Dolly
> > before that post.
>
> Not any posts that mention her by name, no. But keep going ...
>
Point to PV. A crucial point in fact, since the 'name' is what
has STUCK. One small post long before with Scotland = Sheep.
Which DESMOND himself provided if one looks at the thread he
provided.
But then -- DESMOND -- MARRIAGE -- SCOTLAND -- CLONE -- DOLLY.
This was the connection that was made in my post. A totally
complete connection from DESMOND - to DESMOND'S impending
marriage - to DESMOND'S wife - to Dolly.
> <fx: PV runs another google search, realises that he's in for the
> biggest hiding of his AADP 'career', and whispers, 'Oh, shit ...'>
>
Just more meaningless drivel again. How totally boring. And time
consuming since DESMOND NEVER gets to the point. Oops...
NEVER has a point.. is more correct. I'm sure he would have
corrected that error.
> > This was a post created on 25 April 2000.
>
> It was indeed. Keep going ...
>
> > So, yes... I have zinged you with an original,
>
> Erm, no.
>
Erm.. yes... since you've agreed with every conclusion except the
trivial point that Dolly was cloned sometime before. But the NAME,
and the MARRIAGE were never connected with you.
> > that has stood the test of time through the two year interval.
>
> Finished ?
>
> Feel better now ?
>
I'm okay... how's dolly?
> Good.
>
> Right, well in fact, much as PV would once more like to pass another's
> 'work' off as his own, he was as usual, copying someone else.
>
> This google link ...
>
>
url:http://groups.google.fr/groups?hl=fr&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=XejB1QAfjHHzEweU%40maudit.demon.co.uk&rnum=1&prev=/groups%
3Fq%3Dcloned%2Bgroup:alt.activism.death-penalty%26hl%3Dfr%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26scoring%3Dr%26as_drrb%3Db%26as_mind%3D1
2%26as_minm%3D5%26as_miny%3D1981%26as_maxd%3D31%26as_maxm%3D12%26as_maxy%3D1998%26selm%3DXejB1QAfjHHzEweU%2540maudit.dem
on.co.uk%26rnum%3D1
>
ROTFLMAO... Yes... I'd ask everyone to look at the most bizarre
example DESMOND could come up with. No connection to
DESMOND, other than he himself makes the connection to
Scotland = Sheep. No mention of the name Dolly (which is,
of course, the ENTIRE thrust of the reason that name still
resounds about the hollowed halls of AADP), and no mention
of marriage, since DESMOND was not married. A simple
comment or two on the cloning of a sheep means no shortage
of haggis, and DESMOND'S comment opening himself up for
ridicule. Literally... ROTFLMAO. I can imagine if that thread
was not available he would have searched desperately for
some post, anywhere, that mentioned cloning, to claim I
was not original. But you will find no connection of DESMOND
to Dolly being his wedded wife anywhere. DESMOND is desperately
grasping for straws... isn't one, DESMOND?
> ... will lead you to the thread.
>
> The sheep Dolly was cloned in February 1997, I believe. The first refernce
> on the web that I could find, was this one ...
>
> url:http://www.cnn.com/TECH/9702/25/clone.creators/
>
> As anyone can see, that is a good three years before PV made his 'oh-
> so-original' remark here.
>
What'd I say... Am I a prophet.. or am I a prophet? Without that
other post, here comes SOME scientific reference (and that's one
you owe me) to cloning to show that PV wasn't original. I can
imagine that you would only claim I was original if 'I' had been
part of the team that cloned Dolly myself. And how is it possible
to 'copy someone else' when that entire thread mentions neither
marriage nor the name Dolly? And when you admit I could not
find it, even if I were to look for it, without you providing directions
to it. And when it had nothing to do with your marriage or the name.
When you can find a post which claims you've married Dolly,
or even that you've married a cloned sheep, let me know and
I'll even apologize. As it stands right now, you're simply sucking
wind.
The connection to Dolly was to your MARRIAGE. Did you get
MARRIED in 1997? The thread offered no connection to any
marriage since you were not married. No connection to the
name Dolly. And your marriage and the name are the entire
point of my original comment.
> billybob's article did not mention the name of the sheep, which is why
> PV didn't find it whilst looking through google. However, as the
> post was made just after the successful cloning of the sheep, there can
> be no doubt that billybob was referring to Dolly.
>
Think you can sneak that one by, eh? No name of Dolly. The name,
DESMOND... the name. One can hardly say that 'Desmond married
an unnamed sheep,' and find the same connection, or the same
humor in such a post. Especially since you had not just announced
your marriage in some pitiful fit of hysteria, as you did when my post
was made.
But, as you admit... I didn't find it in looking through google. Because
looking for Dolly would have drawn a blank. Thus, the connection
to your wife and the name has stuck until today. And it hurts,
doesn't it? Fess up. How can you claim I copied the work of
another and then say I couldn't find it in google? If I couldn't find
it, then I obviously couldn't copy it, and then it must have been
original. Nor was your reference anything close to the thrust of my
put-down.
> PV has - again - been caught out trying to appear original, when he is
> anything but. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you ...
>
> T h e F r a u d
>
Not at all. Unless you can show that someone mentioned you had
married a sheep. That the sheep was cloned. And that her name
was Dolly. There are a few connections you've overlooked. And
what we end up with is simply more of your 'meaningless drivel.'
> Starring ... PV
> And ... PV
> With Special Guest Stars ... PV
> Tonight's Episode ... 'How to Plagariaze and Get Caught'.
>
How to what??? ROTFLMAO.
> { snip the rest, for PV has just had a very large, corrugated wooden
> pole rammed up his arse so hard that he is the only man alive to
> have two Adam's Apples ...>
>
So... where'd you find that, DESMOND?
> Now, if you had the brains you were born with, you would drop this
> particular thread. I've just shown, using the google references of
> which you are so fond, that a post which you made in the year 2000, and
> which you claimed with (what was the expression again ?) 'some degree
> of pride', to be original, was in fact a poor (and I mean _poor_. Christ,
> copying billybob ... have you no shame, man ??!!) imitation of someone
> else's stuff.
>
DESMOND'S pathetic and painful oblique admission that he
realizes his argument is coming apart and he'd better find some
insults to provide. Clearly, he admits that I couldn't know of the
first thread. He admits it had no connection to a marriage. He
admits it makes no mention of Dolly. He admits it spoke only
of sheep -- haggis and cloning. All in all, pretty pathetic. Since
the cloning was a known event. But Dolly -- and DESMOND'S
marriage -- were not.
> Yet another victory for Des. This is getting too easy ...
>
Simply SG Seminal axiom 6) again, DESMOND. Claim victory
no matter how hollow everyone sees that claim to be.
> <fx: checks that 'X-No-Archive' is gone. Good ... let's post ...>
>
There is all that bullshit again, DESMOND. The fact is, repeating
again, such a connection could not have been made to DESMOND,
your marriage and Dolly as far back as you offer, since you
had just ANNOUNCED your marriage. A few glaring facts stand
out here. First, DESMOND was not married at the time of the
posts you mention. Second, the name Dolly did not exist in
that entire thread. Third, the posts you refer to are not nearly
as persuasive as your marriage. Almost said in passing and
forgotten. You made the connection to Scotland = Sheep
yourself, rather than anyone else. What actually happened
later, is your pitiful announcement of your marriage occurred at the
time of my post. Well after the thread you provide. A thread
which had no connection whatsoever with marriage and Dolly.
You'll need to do better than that to demonstrate that the idea
of your marriage to Dolly was not performed by the Rev. PV in
a thread which dumped your ass in the toilet. Your WIFE
gained that name through me... and it fits perfectly. And I
believe it's here to stay.
PV
What? Desi is welsh?
I don't know. Desi, at one time or another, has stated his nationality is
Irish, Scottish and then French. I don't know what to believe.
Are the Welsh know for having latex goat suits as Desi described?
William Robert
the welsh are known as sheep shaggers. Its a stereotype and probably
innacurate but you know stereotypes :-)
>
>
>
>> >> ROTFLMAO ... don't you get splinters ... sorry, splinter's in your
>> >> hand's from the bottom of that barrel, PV ..?
>> > SLURP... SLURP... SLURP. Jesus, DESMOND, it's disgusting how
>> > pathetically slavish and subservient you've become to that mongrel.
>> Well I've heard Him called a lot of things, from 'prophet' through to
>> insignificant long-haired Jew, but hell, 'mongrel' ? Why not ?
> Actually, he's been called that before.
ROTFLMAO !!!!!!
In usenet parlance, we call that one 'a *whoosh!*' ...
{ snip }
> Oh, gee... quite a riposte. Did you get that off the net?
No, it was one of yours. Don't you remember ? Check it in
goog ... no, never mind.
*chuckle*
{ snip }
>> Like, that would bother me ... not !!
> Obviously not... see above, re: embarrassment... not.
Oh dear, is it time yet again to remind PV how none of this is
serious, and that he's making a fool of himself again ?
Or should that be 'still' ?
>> I don't have anything to prove here, PV. I have a classical
>> education, in a university. Can you say the same ?
{ snip }
> there are GAPING HOLES in YOUR 'classical' (sic) education.
> And one of those holes seems to be you don't understand the
> difference between arithmetic and algebra.
LOL ... how can you bear to masturbate with a hand so full of
splinters ..?
{ snip }
>> Indeed. Am I your worst enemy on AADP, or your second worse enemy ?
> Actually, you're just a simpleton. No more than that to me. My
> little plaything... I am the 'puppet master' pulling the strings, and
> watching DESMOND dance to a jig called 'I have a classical
> education... ho ho ho.'
You _do_ plan to post something of consequence at some point, don't
you ? Go on ... reassure us. Even if it's badly spelled, horrdendously
punctuated, in fact, borderline dyslexia ... just ... post ... something ...
of ... consequence ... go on ... get that web browser fired up and
download a 'quote' (sic) from Plato or something ... we shall know that
it wasn't your own work, but at least it'll make you look a little less
of a moron than you do now ...
{ snip }
>> Number of posts where PV's got the better of me ... 0
>> Number of posts where I've to the better of PV ... x
>>
>> (where x is the number of posts I've directed at PV, times pi, divided
>> by the radian of the Paris Big Wheel, add 62.5, and take away the number
>> I first thought of)
> ROTFLMAO. Actually demonstrating that you ARE mathematics-challenged.
> What you are expressing is NOT arithmetic. It is called 'algebra.'
No, 'Sport' (sic), it's called 'trolling PV'. And guess what : oh
boyohboyohboy ... it worked.
{ snip PV's response to my troll ... oh, please repost it, PV !! I
haven't laughed so much in ages !! }
{ snip }
> Are you denying that the name 'Dolly' has not stuck here?
Unless there are myriad posters who's (heh ... you wouldn't even have
seen that one ... but now that I've pointed it out to you, quick, the
list, PV, the list !! No, forget the 'silver bird', and stop pointing
at the sky, and close your mouth, for heaven's sake !!!) posts have
miraculously never appeared on my newsserver, the name dolly has only
'stuck' because you and billywank use it. Two posters. LOL ... the
irony ('clang!!') is that even better than anything I can write here,
even better than anything that dirt can say here, the extent to which
you have 'fallen', is demonstrated with almost _excruciatingly_ perfect
accuracy, by the fact that you are 'proud' that billywank uses a name
that _you_ copied from _him_. Oh Lord, I can feel that old 'rib wound'
twinging ... I gotta stop laughing, but ... LOL ... What is it they
say, 'birds of a feather flock together' ? There has to be an
equivalent for you and billywank. To the search engine, PV !! Only
this time, don't try to pass it off as your own ... oh, and have you
found Plato yet ? Hint : no, it's not Mickey Mouse's dog (name that
80s TV series, for an all-expenses-paid trip to the Bahamas *).
{ snip }
> Dolly...Dolly...Dolly. And I can imagine, if you removed your sacred
> killfile, you would see how you are being pilloried here and now with
> that name.
'Pilloried' ??
By billywank ?
R-O-T-F-L-M-A-O !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh heavens above, that one just made AADP history, and deserves to
live on in AADP ...
<fx: removes X-No-Archive flag ...>
Any more like that, for us ? How about, 'Don Kool is intelligent' ? Or
'John Rennie is an abolitionist' ? How about you go for gold, and hit
us with, 'Jigsaw is the founder of Mensa' ??
Just remember to warn us that you're about to hit us with a ridiculous
and laughable statement, so that I can make sure that my mouth isn't
full of either scrumptious French food/wine/pussy, or that I'm not
in danger of dousing my keyboard in piss, from laughing so much.
>> > When you announced your 'marriage' (sic)
>> LOL ... PV the Walking Breast.
> LOL... DESMOND... the Wanking Beast. And that's ALL mine, sport.
No ... really ?
{ snip }
>> > "Good Grief...I just thought of something! Her name is DOLLY!
>> > And she's from SCOTLAND!...You don't think?.....No....that
>> > couldn't be.....Not even Desi......Is that legal in Scotland????"
>> Yes, I remember the almost universal condemnation that that post
>> earned you. But keep going ...
> ROTFLMAO... That's not the way I recall it. I believe it got me in
> your killfile, as I recall.
Whilst almost every serious poster, accused you of being an idiot. Yes,
I know ... it happens so often that the 'accusations of being an idiot'
tend to merge into one big, fuzzy 'blob' in your memory ...
{ snip }
>> > You are from Scotland,
>> Ireland, in fact. But keep going ...
> Pardon me???
Oh but we do, PV. All the time. Whilst our pardon doesn't bear the
same weight as the 'presidential pardon', we still respond to you, and
still laugh at you, much as we consider you an obscenity. Consider
yourself 'pardoned' yet again.
{ snip }
>> > And you will find no mention of a connection between you and Dolly
>> > before that post.
>> Not any posts that mention her by name, no. But keep going ...
> Point to PV. A crucial point in fact, since the 'name' is what
> has STUCK. One small post long before with Scotland = Sheep.
LOL ... 'one small post'. You wicked old man, you do that in the
hope that I'm going to choke on my cup of scalding Earl Grey tea,
don't you ? Ho! ho! ho !
billywank had, since the moment when Drewl created the persona,
been mentioning sheep. Indeed, that was _all_ that he ever posted.
I could go and check google for the first post that 'he' made, but
I'm sure that you relish the idea of checking google a bit more. Or
maybe you don't relish it, but you sure as hell need the practice.
{ snip }
>> Erm, no.
> Erm.. yes... since you've agreed with every conclusion except the
> trivial point that Dolly was cloned sometime before. But the NAME,
> and the MARRIAGE were never connected with you.
This is even more irrelevant than what you normally post. Um ... no,
scratch that. _Nothing_ could be more irrelevant than the gobshite ...
the _inspired_ gobshite ... the 'come-and-spank-me' masochism that
springs from your 'pen'. Nothing could. So let's call it 'as
irrelevant'.
No post has to bear the name of the person (or in this case, thing)
that is being discussed. I'm sure that on NNTP servers across the
world, at this very moment, there are hundreds of thousands of
posts concerning your dimbulb president, Bush, and a good number of
them probably don't bear his name. Indeed, on the French-language
newsgroups such as news:fr.soc.politique right now, President
Chirac is being talked about, and not all of the posts have the word
'Chirac' in them. Of course, they're still posts _about_ him. Send your
friend 'dolly' over there to check, if you don't believe me. I post
there often, but 'dolly' has yet to 'archive' (sic) my posts there. One
wonders why ...
However, one thing is sure, and that is that billywank mentioned the
'link' between my Scottish 'nationality' (sic), and sheep, long before
you even hit this group. Long before even Dolly was cloned. Your
'original [sic] putdown [sic]' wasn't even 'original' when billwank was
mentioning it, so when you stole his 'idea', it was so old, that it
was definitely in line for carbon dating. Hell, even older than one
of incubus's jokes !!
>> > that has stood the test of time through the two year interval.
>> Finished ?
>> Feel better now ?
> I'm okay... how's dolly?
Probably on a 'silver bird' over the Atlantic at this moment. You like
'silver birds', don't you, PV ? One day, we shall (there's that 'shall',
and 'will' again ... damnit, PV ... you're not doing your homework fast
enough ... and stop pointing at the sky, you oaf !!!) even tell you how
they stay up in the sky. No, it's _not_ with hidden wires; this isn't
Hollywood, even if our demolishing (and yes, it's a gerund ... if PV
seeks to learn all this, he's going to be absent from AADP for the next
month !!) what passes for your 'points' very often is 'spectacular'.
{ snip URL }
> ROTFLMAO... Yes... I'd ask everyone to look at the most bizarre
> example DESMOND could come up with. No connection to
> DESMOND, other than he himself makes the connection to
> Scotland = Sheep.
'ROTFMAO' (sic) !!!!!!!!!!!!!
'No connection to DESMOND [sic]' ...
Of course not ... except the _very name_ of the thread is 'Of Cloned
Sheep and "Mr Desmond E. Coughlan" !'
> No mention of the name Dolly
*guffaw* ... he didn't _have_ to mention Dolly, for at that time,
no other sheep had been cloned, you classless buffoon !!!
ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was _obvious_ that he was talking about Dolly. In fact, I even
showed this to be true earlier this evening, when I made several
references to you, without mentioning your name (go, boy, go !!). Of
course, according to your rather crass and idiotic criterion, I wasn't
talking about you, because your name wasn't in the post.
*guffaw!!!!!*
Christ, this is so fucking easy ...
> (which is,
> of course, the ENTIRE thrust of the reason that name still
> resounds about the hollowed halls of AADP),
ROTFLMAO !!!!!! Another .38 round goes slamming into PV's big toe !!!!
'billywank' ... 'PV' ... 'hollowed [sic] halls' ...
<fx: wipes tears of laughter from face ...>
Remind us again of how 'he [sic] has been called that before,' PV ... go
on, puhleeze !!! The Frenchman wanna laugh at the dumbfuck Chinese
man again !!!!
{ snip }
> isn't one, DESMOND?
Any chance of getting that in English, immigrant-boy ?
{ snip remainder as this case is now closed as 'PV Being Spanked #22556' }
{ snip }
> Simply SG Seminal axiom 6) again, DESMOND. Claim victory
> no matter how hollow everyone sees that claim to be.
Having trouble with brackets ... sorry, bracket's, again ? Or is
your copy-and-paste done so often and so quickly, that you don't
realise that brackets normally need to be opened, before they can
be closed ?
{ snip remainder of PV banging his 'fist' on the 'desk' and squealing,
'But I _did_ see it first !! I did, I tell you !!' }
By the way, PV ... consider this a 'heads-up' (I know, I'm too nice,
but when your 'opponent' is borderline wheelchair-and-potty' material,
you get to have a fair degree of compassion), but this post wasn't
'sent' to you, but to my NNTP server here at home. That machine will
then forward it on to (I bet you're just _dying_ to know how we British
English speakers know when to use 'onto', and not 'on to', and vice
versa ... to your dictionaries, PV ... forget the sky ... to your
dictionaries !!) another NNTP server, and so on ...
Now I have to leave Paris tomorrow morning on business, but shall
('damnit, he just uses "shall" and "will" so easily !!!') be back
by Monday evening. I expect to see many, many slavish responses to
my posts of this evening. Jump to it, boy !!!! Jump !!!!
* You see, PV, it _is_ possible to whip your arse, _and_ give credit to
where I get my 'putdowns' (sic). No one thinks any the worse of
you ... although to be honest, that's probably not even possible in
your case ...
PLEASE SEE:
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>Subject: Re: I Throw In the Towel ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:25:52 +0000
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:08:42 +0000
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>Le Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:50:49 +0100, incubus <inc...@hellfire.com> a écrit :
>
>
>> "William Robert" <billy...@aol.comnotdonko> wrote in message
>> news:20020717223002...@mb-dh.aol.com...
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> >What? Desi is welsh?
>
>>> I don't know squat. Desi is my fantasy, and I just love to imagine his
>>> cock in my ass. Why are you welsh? If you are, can I blow you off?
>
>> the welsh are known as sheep shaggers. Its a stereotype and probably
>> innacurate but you know stereotypes :-)
>
>Heh ... billywank certainly _does_ know stereotypes. He _is_ one.
>
>-
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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>Subject: Re: I Throw In the Towel ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:51:34 +0000
>
>Le Thu, 18 Jul 2002 01:35:42 +0100, incubus <inc...@hellfire.com> a écrit :
>
>
>>> >billybob's article did not mention the name of the sheep, which is why
>>> >PV didn't find it whilst looking through google. However, as the
>>> >post was made just after the successful cloning of the sheep, there can
>>> >be no doubt that billybob was referring to Dolly.
>
>>> Desi, actually it was a fellow countryman of yours, Ian Harris who first
>> told
>>> us about your carnal knowledge of sheep.
>>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=+%22morag%22+group:alt.activism.death-pe
>>> nalty&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=ESk8RNAP24gyEwwh%40maudit.demon.co.
>>> uk&rnum=3
>>>
>>> Shortly afterward we discussed your latex goat suit and you again
>> mentioned
>>> sheep.
>
>> What? Desi is welsh?
>
>LOL ... the irony is that one, incubus probably isn't aware that he's
>just dealt a stunning slap in the face to bill...@aol.com, and two,
>bill...@aol.com probably won't realise that he is having the piss
>taken out of him by almost everyone on the group.
>
>Shit, I love this newsgroup !!
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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>http: // www . zeouane . org
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:55:04 +0000
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>Le Tue, 16 Jul 2002 05:53:35 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> My 'ARITHMETIC' (sic) is fine, PV. How's your logic ?
>
>> That won't fly anymore than the 'Baltimore County Police' (sic) has flown.
>> Nor has 'logic' ever bothered you in your 'presentations' (sic).
>
>I can see that 'Herr' PV is not only having difficulty with words like
>'ensure', 'insure', 'send', and 'honesty' (that last one had him up (which
>is more than one could say for his wife) all night last night, consulting
>his CD copy of _The OED_, until the gas bottle under the trailer gave up
>the ghost), but that he's now 'fessing [sic] up' to not understanding
>the correct use of 'sic'. What's next, PV : brackets ? Why not tell
>us how 'automobile' really means a two-wheeled motor vehicle, and not a
>four-wheeled one, like the other 99.9999999999999999999% of the world
>believes ..? That one should raise a laugh ...
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> LOL ... bitter, bitter is ye ol' PV ...
>
>{ snip more unilateral declarations of victory }
>
>> But ego drives you on, sport.
> ^^^
>
>You misspelt, 'Desire to take the piss out of PV, and have as much fun
>into the bargain'.
>
>Or perhaps in your native language, 'ego' means exactly that. Or perhaps
>it's just another example of the 'Concise PV English Dictionary', where
>you make up the rules of English as you go along, and change them when
>it suits you.
>
>Why don't we all 'ROT-13' our posts, and then PV will be able to read
>them better ? Come on, PV ... 'fess [sic] up' : are you an idiot, or
>is it 'disslexxia' (sic) ?
>
>{ snip PV mentioning a thread which I've just answered, and his usual
> declarations of victory, 'cos I'm feeling charitable }
>
>> But others can see it.
>
>LOL ... unfortunately for you.
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
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> bill...@aol.com probably won't realise that he is having the piss
> taken out of him by almost everyone on the group.
_Almost_????
Mr Q. Z. D.
> { snip }
>
> > Oh, gee... quite a riposte. Did you get that off the net?
>
> No, it was one of yours. Don't you remember ? Check it in
> goog ... no, never mind.
>
> *chuckle*
>
> { snip }
>
> >> Like, that would bother me ... not !!
>
> > Obviously not... see above, re: embarrassment... not.
>
> Oh dear, is it time yet again to remind PV how none of this is
> serious, and that he's making a fool of himself again ?
>
Well, it becomes rather 'serious,' when you laugh about a
poster's neighbor being murdered, or accuse the Mother of a
murdered child of having a "rather perverse taste for
state-sponsored murder." But if the question is 'has anyone
ever taking anything you say seriously?' The answer must
be an emphatic 'NO.' Nonetheless, you attempt to hide your
ignorance, which demonstrates you do wish to be taken
seriously, all your protests to the contrary. We all know
you're in serious denial of that, desi.
> Or should that be 'still' ?
>
Terrific riposte, desi... and so typical. Jesus may 'love you,'
but everyone else knows you're a jerk
> >> I don't have anything to prove here, PV. I have a classical
> >> education, in a university. Can you say the same ?
>
> { snip }
>
> > there are GAPING HOLES in YOUR 'classical' (sic) education.
> > And one of those holes seems to be you don't understand the
> > difference between arithmetic and algebra.
>
> LOL ... how can you bear to masturbate with a hand so full of
> splinters ..?
>
Ummm. I think we know who has 'admitted' to being a 'Wanking
Beast.' As I recall, it was you.
> { snip }
>
> >> Indeed. Am I your worst enemy on AADP, or your second worse enemy ?
>
> > Actually, you're just a simpleton. No more than that to me. My
> > little plaything... I am the 'puppet master' pulling the strings, and
> > watching DESMOND dance to a jig called 'I have a classical
> > education... ho ho ho.'
>
> You _do_ plan to post something of consequence at some point, don't
> you ?
You first. Perhaps you can start with wind shear (oops.. that's
'air turbulence), having caused the Lockerbie disaster. Or your
more recent display of ignorance in claiming Stalin was 'not from
the left.' That, of course, 'left' a lot of people laughing at your
ignorance.
> Go on ... reassure us. Even if it's badly spelled, horrdendously
> punctuated, in fact, borderline dyslexia ... just ... post ... something ...
> of ... consequence ... go on ... get that web browser fired up and
> download a 'quote' (sic) from Plato or something ... we shall know that
> it wasn't your own work, but at least it'll make you look a little less
> of a moron than you do now ...
>
Go on with you... tell me how you wrote 'spelled,' and then demonstrated
how stupid you are by immediately doing so.
Now, silly boy... Whitehead remarked "all philosophy might be regarded as a
footnote to Plato." Thus, when I 'quote' Plato, it will simply fly over
your pointy head... as the word 'philosophy,' is, of course, another
strange and unfamiliar word to you. Similar to the word 'mathematics.'
So -- Philosophy -- "The love, study, or pursuit of wisdom, or of
knowledge of things and their causes..." Now I know you find your
philosophy at the bottom of a wine bottle, but do try to stay sober and
follow along...
> { snip }
>
> >> Number of posts where PV's got the better of me ... 0
> >> Number of posts where I've to the better of PV ... x
> >>
> >> (where x is the number of posts I've directed at PV, times pi, divided
> >> by the radian of the Paris Big Wheel, add 62.5, and take away the number
> >> I first thought of)
>
> > ROTFLMAO. Actually demonstrating that you ARE mathematics-challenged.
> > What you are expressing is NOT arithmetic. It is called 'algebra.'
>
> No, 'Sport' (sic), it's called 'trolling PV'. And guess what : oh
> boyohboyohboy ... it worked.
>
ROTFLMFAO. You stupid son-of-a-bitch. You know full well,
that you are threatened by what you know is beyond your pseudo-intellect.
The answer to my original question was based on arithmetic. And
you had no idea of even the MEANING of that word... and then posted
one of the more stupid comments you've ever made, referring to an 'x'
value as a supposed 'arithmetic' comparison to my problem. You're in
some serious denial here, desi.
> { snip PV's response to my troll ... oh, please repost it, PV !! I
> haven't laughed so much in ages !! }
>
Your TROLL??? Yeah, right. Your stupidity, you mean. I've now responded
to THAT, of course. You see, sport... I don't care how much you deny it.
Others can see that you're simply demonstrating more of the slimy behavior
we've seen so often. This particular stupidity that you demonstrated,
which you would now like to call a 'troll,' leads one to a better understanding
of why you do not archive your posts. It's that you hope to keep from looking
like the moron you are for any time longer than a month. But unfortunately for
you, no month passes without you displaying it again, in yet another
thread. It's 'recycled' stupidity you seem to be practicing.