In a 6-3 decision, the court strikes down laws in Florida, California and 35
other states that allow life terms with no chance for parole for a crime
that does not involve murder.
(Justices Clarence Thomas, Antonin Scalia and Samuel A. Alito Jr. dissented)
(the three emmerdeurs)
By David G. Savage, Los Angeles Times
May 17, 2010 | 8:59 a.m.
The Supreme Court for the first time put a broad constitutional limit on
prison terms Monday, ruling it is cruel and unusual punishment to give a
young criminal a life term in prison with no chance for parole for a crime
that does not involve murder.
In a 6-3 decision, the court struck down the laws in Florida and 36 other
states which permit life prison terms for criminals who were under age 18 at
the time of their crimes. Currently, 129 prisoners are serving such terms
nationwide, and 77 of them are in Florida.
In the past, the Constitution's ban on cruel and unusual punishment has been
used mostly to limit use of the death penalty. The justices have been wary
of limiting prison terms.
But Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, speaking for the court, said a life prison
term with no chance for parole is too extreme for a juvenile criminal whose
offenses involve robbery or assault. He also noted that prior to today, "The
United States is the only nation that imposes life without parole sentences
on juvenile non-homicide offenders."
Kennedy said these young criminals are not entitled to a "guarantee" of
eventual release, but they do deserve "some realistic opportunity to obtain
release" if they can show they are no longer a danger to the community.
The ruling came in the case of Terrance Graham, who as a teenager in
Jacksonville, Fla., was sentenced to life in prison for his role in the
armed robbery of a restaurant and a later home invasion robbery. He was 17
when a judge sent him to prison for life with no chance for parole.
Kennedy said this sentence would mean "he will die in prison without any
meaningful opportunity to obtain release, no matter what he might do to
demonstrate that the bad acts he committed as a teenager are not
representative of his true character, even if he spends the next half
century attempting to atone for his crimes and learn from his mistakes."
Justices John Paul Stevens, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen G. Breyer and Sonia
Sotomayor joined his opinion in Graham vs. Florida. Chief Justice John G.
Roberts Jr. concurred in Graham's case, but did not go along with Kennedy's
broader ruling.
Justices Clarence Thomas, Antonin Scalia and Samuel A. Alito Jr. dissented.
Most states that have such laws are not currently using them. Besides
Florida, 10 other states have inmates who were sent to prison for life for
crimes that do not involve a homicide, Kennedy said. They are California,
Delaware, Iowa, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nebraska, Nevada, Oklahoma, South
Carolina and Virginia.
Human Rights Watch hailed the decision as bringing U.S. law into line with
international standards of justice. The group said 2,574 people are serving
life terms for juvenile crimes, but its figures include murderers. "The
United States is the world's worst human rights violator in terms of
sentencing young offenders to life without parole," said Alison Parker, U.S.
director for Human Rights Watch.
Copyright � 2010, The Los Angeles Times
"Earl Evleth" <evl...@wanadoo.fr> a �crit dans le message de groupe de
discussion : C817404C.1B07F0%evl...@wanadoo.fr...
>Supreme Court limits life sentences without parole for young criminals$
>
Hurray!!! All retentionists strongly support that decision.
Planet Visitor II
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/dictionary.html
>>Supreme Court limits life sentences without parole for young criminals$
> Hurray!!! All retentionists strongly support that decision.
Is that what they told you, Nazi Noles..?
Y.
PS learn to snip, you retarded fuck.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
AADP's 'left-wing Israeli intellectual'
'This will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which
will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the Crusades...'
(Abdul Rahman Hassan Azzam, Secretary General of Arab League, May
1948)
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>
> From: Planet Visitor II <na...@earthlink.net>
> Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
> Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 23:00:19 -0400
> Subject: Re: High court rules out life sentences for some juveniles
>
> On Mon, 17 May 2010 18:49:48 +0200, Earl Evleth <evl...@wanadoo.fr>
> wrote:
>
>> Supreme Court limits life sentences without parole for young criminals
>>
>
> Hurray!!! All retentionists strongly support that decision.
>
>
> Planet Visitor II
I would certainly hope so, but having heard some of the yowlers we get now
and then on this group, I would amend that to read: all reasonable
retentionists strongly support that decision. I know there are reasonable
retentionists, because we have had them over the years on this group. I
hope their number does not decline.
Donna Evleth
I happen to think the American 'system' would have doled out a
more appropriate sentence for those two ten year olds who murdered
young James Bulger.
>On 18-05-2010, James 'Nazi Bastard' Noles <na...@earthlink.net> wrote ...
>> On Mon, 17 May 2010 18:49:48 +0200, Earl Evleth <evl...@wanadoo.fr>
>> wrote:
>
>>>Supreme Court limits life sentences without parole for young criminals$
>
>> Hurray!!! All retentionists strongly support that decision.
>
>Is that what they told you, Nazi Noles..?
I haven't seen any that objected to it. Like posters here who have
objected to you calling yourself "Jewish," to which you have always
replied that there are "Nazis." But we do know that you claim
to "know the unknowable." And that you are "infallible" when it
comes to your belief in the extermination all Arabs from the Nile to
the Tigris.
"My view is that Israel could (and should) be allowed to clean
up the scum in the area, and not leave a single Arab alive
from the Nile to the Tigris, as G-d intended it in His Torah."
- Desmond Coughlan (the Nazi fucktard using the
name of Yitzhak in making a joke of Jewish names). See --
http://tinyurl.com/5gcezc
ROFLM*FUCKING*AO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<fx: *roars* with laughter>
"My view is that Israel could (and should) be allowed to clean
up the scum in the area, and not leave a single Arab alive
from the Nile to the Tigris, as G-d intended it in His Torah."
- Desmond Coughlan (the Nazi fucktard using the
name of Yitzhak in making a joke of Jewish names). See --
http://tinyurl.com/5gcezc
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The most clueless comment ever posted to Usenet. But not
actually without motivation. As usual, the Nazi fucktard's
motivation was to argue in favor of murder to hide his true
intentions to inspire hate for the Jews.
Haaaaaaahahahahahahaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A classic ... a fucking classic!!!! A keeper!!!!!
<fx: saved URL to look at and laugh in recognizing desi's
attempt to murder millions of Arabs, and then trying to hide
his comment from Google.>
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!
"My view is that Israel could (and should) be allowed to clean
up the scum in the area, and not leave a single Arab alive
from the Nile to the Tigris, as G-d intended it in His Torah."
- Desmond Coughlan (the Nazi fucktard using the
name of Yitzhak in making a joke of Jewish names).
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'!!!!!!
Hehehehehehee!!!!!!!
<fx: wipes tears of pure delight from eyes>
And I laughed... and I laughed... and I laughed.
You don't really think you can beat me, just by removing your
past comments from Google, and then running away like a
coward with the excreta running down your leg, as you put
me in your precious killfile, do you, Nazi fucktard? Heh...
of course you do, you fucking retard.
ROFLM*FUCKING*AO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<fx: *roars* with laughter>
"My view is that Israel could (and should) be allowed to clean
up the scum in the area, and not leave a single Arab alive
from the Nile to the Tigris, as G-d intended it in His Torah."
- Desmond Coughlan (the Nazi fucktard using the
name of Yitzhak in making a joke of Jewish names).
Haaaaaaahahahahahahaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A Jew deconstructing desmond coughlan
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/dictionary.html
>Y.
>
>PS learn to snip, you retarded fuck.
Why? Just because your intellect is limited to sound bites
is no reason why your beliefs must be accepted by everyone.
Okay... all retentionists with the exception of Don Kool.... :-)
Planet Visitor II
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/dictionary.html
>Donna Evleth
Why? Are the murderers' victims any less dead because the murderer is
"young"? Is the crime any less severe because the criminal is "Young"?
J
"Donna Evleth" <dev...@wanadoo.fr> a �crit dans le message de groupe de
discussion : C81848EF.8BD71%dev...@wanadoo.fr...
> Why? Are the murderers' victims any less dead because the murderer is
> "young"? Is the crime any less severe because the criminal is "Young"?
`
It it known from studies that young people do not recognize the
consequences of their acts, that comes normally in adulthood.
If it does not come in adulthood it is because of arrested
development (infantile behavior). However low sees that an
adult much be treated as an adult, regardless of emotional
age. Also, there is a freezing in place of behavior as an adult.
So a 13 year old murderer is considered less responsible
and for good reason, 13 year olds act irresponsibly.
Lastly, a 13 yr old is considered as socially recoverable.
> From: John Rennie <john-...@talktalk.net>
> Reply-To: john-...@talktalk.net
> Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 13:20:55 +0100
> Subject: Re: High court rules out life sentences for some juveniles
>
> Donna Evleth wrote:
>>
>>> From: Planet Visitor II <na...@earthlink.net>
>>> Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>>> Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 23:00:19 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: High court rules out life sentences for some juveniles
>>>
>>> On Mon, 17 May 2010 18:49:48 +0200, Earl Evleth <evl...@wanadoo.fr>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Supreme Court limits life sentences without parole for young criminals
>>>>
>>> Hurray!!! All retentionists strongly support that decision.
>>>
>>>
>>> Planet Visitor II
>>
>> I would certainly hope so, but having heard some of the yowlers we get now
>> and then on this group, I would amend that to read: all reasonable
>> retentionists strongly support that decision. I know there are reasonable
>> retentionists, because we have had them over the years on this group. I
>> hope their number does not decline.
>>
>> Donna Evleth
>>
>
> I happen to think the American 'system' would have doled out a
> more appropriate sentence for those two ten year olds who murdered
> young James Bulger.
I do, too.
Donna Evleth
> From: Planet Visitor II <na...@earthlink.net>
> Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 12:15:51 -0400
> Subject: Re: High court rules out life sentences for some juveniles
>
> On Tue, 18 May 2010 13:38:55 +0200, Donna Evleth <dev...@wanadoo.fr>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>> From: Planet Visitor II <na...@earthlink.net>
>>> Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>>> Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 23:00:19 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: High court rules out life sentences for some juveniles
>>>
>>> On Mon, 17 May 2010 18:49:48 +0200, Earl Evleth <evl...@wanadoo.fr>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Supreme Court limits life sentences without parole for young criminals
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hurray!!! All retentionists strongly support that decision.
>>>
>>>
>>> Planet Visitor II
>>
>> I would certainly hope so, but having heard some of the yowlers we get now
>> and then on this group, I would amend that to read: all reasonable
>> retentionists strongly support that decision. I know there are reasonable
>> retentionists, because we have had them over the years on this group. I
>> hope their number does not decline.
>>
>
> Okay... all retentionists with the exception of Don Kool.... :-)
I cannot say that I am sorry that the Rev. Don is no longer posting.
Donna Evleth
> From: "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
> Organization: albasani.net
> Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 19:03:30 +0100
> Subject: Re: High court rules out life sentences for some juveniles
>
>
> "Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:vl04v5ldr3eqtaiiu...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 17 May 2010 18:49:48 +0200, Earl Evleth <evl...@wanadoo.fr>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Supreme Court limits life sentences without parole for young criminals$
>>>
>>
>> Hurray!!! All retentionists strongly support that decision.
>
> Why? Are the murderers' victims any less dead because the murderer is
> "young"? Is the crime any less severe because the criminal is "Young"?
The crimes involved here generally do not involve murder. That was stated
in the original article.
Donna Evleth
>> Hurray!!! All retentionists strongly support that decision.
> I would certainly hope so, but having heard some of the yowlers we get
> now and then on this group, I would amend that to read: all reasonable
> retentionists strongly support that decision. I know there are
> reasonable retentionists, because we have had them over the years on this
> group. I hope their number does not decline.
Normal Mike is currently the only 'sane retentionist' on this group, Donna.
Y.
> So a 13 year old murderer is considered less responsible
>> and for good reason, 13 year olds act irresponsibly.
>> Lastly, a 13 yr old is considered as socially recoverable.
>>
> Let's say most are.
True. The apparently formative stages of a sociopath
are early in those cases where it is more or less
obviously due to family or social environment. If there
is some genetic or early pathological factor that is hard wired
that works against recoverability.
The mystery is how two different individuals can have
pretty much the same early life of emotional neglect
and one not turn out to be mean for life.
Take Charles Manson as a poster boy example of neglect as a kid
Charles Manson was born to an unmarried 16-year-old named Kathleen Maddox in
Cincinnati General Hospital in Cincinnati, Ohio. Initially, he was "no name
Maddox."[12][13][14] On the Certificate of Live Birth recorded three weeks
after he was born, his name was listed as Charles Milles Maddox.[12][15][16]
For a brief time after her son's birth, Maddox was married to a laborer
named William Manson.[16] The elder Manson is named as Charles Manson's
father on his Certificate of Live Birth, but eventually, Maddox filed a
paternity suit against a "Colonel Scott" which resulted in an agreed
judgment in 1937.[17] In the quasi-autobiographical Manson in His Own Words,
Colonel Scott is described as "a young drugstore cowboy ... a transient
laborer working on a nearby dam project."[18] It is not clear if Charles
Manson ever knew Scott.[12][14][19] Several statements in Manson's 1951 case
file from the seven months he would later spend at the National Training
School for Boys in Washington, D.C., allude to the possibility that Scott
was African American.[20] Statements found in the family background section
of the file read, "Father: unknown. He is alleged to have been a colored
cook by the name of Scott, with whom the boy's mother had been promiscuous
at the time of pregnancy."[21] When asked in 1971 about these records
discovered by attorney Vincent Bugliosi, Manson emphatically denied his
biological father was African American.[22]
Manson's mother was alleged to have been an alcoholic.[12][23] According to
one of Manson's relatives, Maddox once sold her son for a pitcher of beer to
a childless waitress. His uncle retrieved him some days later.[24] When
Maddox and her brother were sentenced to five years imprisonment for robbing
a Charleston, West Virginia service station in 1939, Manson was placed in
the home of an aunt and uncle in McMechen, West Virginia. After being
paroled in 1942, Maddox retrieved her son and the two lived in run-down
hotel rooms.[12] Manson later recalled her physical embrace of him on the
day she returned from prison as his sole happy childhood memory.[24]
In 1947, Maddox attempted to have her son placed in a foster home, but no
placement was available.[12] The court then sent Manson to the Gibault
School for Boys, in Terre Haute, Indiana. Fleeing Gibault after 10 months,
Manson went straight to his mother, but she rejected him.[12][25] More than
two decades later, during the Tate/LaBianca murder trial, a reporter for the
Los Angeles Times tracked down Manson's mother, remarried and living in the
Pacific Northwest. Maddox told the reporter that in childhood her son had
suffered no neglect, rather, that he had been "pampered by all the women who
surrounded him."[14]
>
> "Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:vl04v5ldr3eqtaiiu...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 17 May 2010 18:49:48 +0200, Earl Evleth <evl...@wanadoo.fr>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Supreme Court limits life sentences without parole for young
>>>criminals$
>>>
>>
>> Hurray!!! All retentionists strongly support that decision.
>
> Why? Are the murderers' victims any less dead because the murderer is
> "young"? Is the crime any less severe because the criminal is "Young"?
What do you propose we do with children who kill?
Feb. 29, 2000
Mount Morris Township, Mich.
Six-year-old Kayla Rolland shot dead at Buell Elementary
School near Flint, Mich. The assailant was identified as
a six-year-old boy with a .32-caliber handgun.
>On 18-05-2010, Donna Evleth <dev...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>>> From: James 'Nazi Bastard' Noles <na...@earthlink.net>:
>
>>> Hurray!!! All retentionists strongly support that decision.
>
>> I would certainly hope so, but having heard some of the yowlers we get
>> now and then on this group, I would amend that to read: all reasonable
>> retentionists strongly support that decision. I know there are
>> reasonable retentionists, because we have had them over the years on this
>> group. I hope their number does not decline.
>
>Normal Mike is currently the only 'sane retentionist' on this group, Donna.
>
That comment coming from the only "insane abolitionist' in this group.
"Donna Evleth" <dev...@wanadoo.fr> a �crit dans le message de groupe de
discussion : C818B7CB.8BDA1%dev...@wanadoo.fr...
>
>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:vl04v5ldr3eqtaiiu...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 17 May 2010 18:49:48 +0200, Earl Evleth <evl...@wanadoo.fr>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Supreme Court limits life sentences without parole for young criminals$
>>>
>>
>> Hurray!!! All retentionists strongly support that decision.
>
>Why? Are the murderers' victims any less dead because the murderer is
>"young"? Is the crime any less severe because the criminal is "Young"?
>
Did you even bother to read the article? It has nothing at all to do
with murderers... young or old. It specifically cites non-murderers
only.
<article clipped>
Planet Visitor II
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/dictionary.html
>J
>"Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co> wrote in
>news:hsukpn$bs8$1...@news.albasani.net:
>
>>
>> "Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:vl04v5ldr3eqtaiiu...@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 17 May 2010 18:49:48 +0200, Earl Evleth <evl...@wanadoo.fr>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Supreme Court limits life sentences without parole for young
>>>>criminals$
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hurray!!! All retentionists strongly support that decision.
>>
>> Why? Are the murderers' victims any less dead because the murderer is
>> "young"? Is the crime any less severe because the criminal is "Young"?
>
>
> What do you propose we do with children who kill?
Spank them.
Planet Visitor II
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/dictionary.html
>
Nonsense. Consider the kind of untempered behaviour you see on the internet.
most posters are adults yet with no policing there are no consequences so
the miriad of flame battles occut and adults behave like spoilt children.
Their ages are of no consequence. Your argument could apply to a three year
old child but a 13 year old is fully aware of what he or she is doing and as
was said previously. 13 or 30, thier victim is no less dead. Howeve, this is
not my attempt to condone the death penalty. I have no such conviction. The
death penalty is a demonstration of so called "civilised" cultures'
hipocritical attemt to obscure thier own blood lust!
J
>
I have no legal say in the matter but my opinion is that children who murder
should be treated the wame as adults who murder. The crime has still been
commited and children are legally sane.
J
Replace death row with "Spank row"?
J
Yes, but you miss my point. Why should children who commit crime be treated
any differently from adults who commit crime? I refer to children who are
old enough to string a sentence together, of course
J
Wow.
Executing children. Even the Saudis and Chinese
and Iranians don't stoop that low.
"What Jesus Would Do", no doubt...........
> From: "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
> Organization: albasani.net
> Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 11:57:18 +0100
> Subject: Re: High court rules out life sentences for some juveniles
>
>
Of course. So we should perhaps stop treating them differently in the rest
of life, let them drive cars as soon as they can reach the pedals, let them
buy alcohol and cigarettes as soon as they wish to, let them purchase guns
as soon as they can lift them. That is the logical conclusion to what you
are suggesting.
Donna Evleth
The most important aspect of what to do in general about crime is
protecting against the next victims.
>> Okay... all retentionists with the exception of Don Kool.... :-)
> I cannot say that I am sorry that the Rev. Don is no longer posting.
We've got someone every bit as bigoted right here, in the shape of Nazi
Bastard Noles.
They do already. Or rather they have others buy the alcohol for them and
there are many cases of joyriding to be heard and many cases the joy riders
drive better than "qualified" drivers. However, none of this alters my point
that crime is crime.
As I remember it, there were many calling for the blood of said 10 year old
killers. They brutally murderered James Bulger who was even younger. How
many retiontionists think they should escape the death penalty, I
wonder.....
>> What do you propose we do with children who kill?
> Spank them.
Your perverted fantasies are duly noted, Nazi Noles.
>> <article clipped>
> Yes, but you miss my point. Why should children who commit crime be
> treated any differently from adults who commit crime? I refer to children
> who are old enough to string a sentence together, of course
Because they're children, you fucking imbecile.
1) Not all crimes have victims.
2) Unless you have a time machine how do you know
who the "next victims" are and who will victimize them?
Must you turn every discussion into smoking pot?
> 2) Unless you have a time machine how do you know
> who the "next victims" are and who will victimize them?
>
The people who commit violent crimes tend to continue doing so, so
lock them up, or give them the death penalty, but separate them
from their next victims.
--
"It is illuminating for purposes of reflection, if not for
argument, to note that one of the greatest 'fictions' of our
federal system is that the Congress exercises only those powers
delegated to it, while the remainder are reserved to the States or
to the people. The manner in which this Court has construed the
Commerce Clause amply illustrates the extent of this fiction.",
Hodel v. Virginia Surface Mining, 452 U.S. 264, 307 (1981)
I would execute no murderers before their time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpj0t2ozPWY
> I and others
> do not think that eight years detention (not imprisonment) was a safe
> solution.
>
Ship them off to Australia.
>
>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:fhv6v510n1otnk87n...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 18 May 2010 21:27:33 -0500, Mitchell Holman
>> <nom...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>"Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co> wrote in
>>>news:hsukpn$bs8$1...@news.albasani.net:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:vl04v5ldr3eqtaiiu...@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Mon, 17 May 2010 18:49:48 +0200, Earl Evleth <evl...@wanadoo.fr>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Supreme Court limits life sentences without parole for young
>>>>>>criminals$
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hurray!!! All retentionists strongly support that decision.
>>>>
>>>> Why? Are the murderers' victims any less dead because the murderer is
>>>> "young"? Is the crime any less severe because the criminal is "Young"?
>>>
>>>
>>> What do you propose we do with children who kill?
>>
>>
>> Spank them.
>
>Replace death row with "Spank row"?
>
Sarcasm, my boy... sarcasm.
What I DON'T propose we do with children who kill... is KILL THEM!
We have quite enough adult serial killers and pedophile murderers
to keep the Justice System at work with the death penalty as it is.
>
>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:8dv6v5prcna6oefir...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 18 May 2010 19:03:30 +0100, "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>news:vl04v5ldr3eqtaiiu...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Mon, 17 May 2010 18:49:48 +0200, Earl Evleth <evl...@wanadoo.fr>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Supreme Court limits life sentences without parole for young criminals$
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hurray!!! All retentionists strongly support that decision.
>>>
>>>Why? Are the murderers' victims any less dead because the murderer is
>>>"young"? Is the crime any less severe because the criminal is "Young"?
>>>
>>
>> Did you even bother to read the article? It has nothing at all to do
>> with murderers... young or old. It specifically cites non-murderers
>> only.
>>
>> <article clipped>
>
>Yes, but you miss my point. Why should children who commit crime be treated
>any differently from adults who commit crime? I refer to children who are
>old enough to string a sentence together, of course
>
Well... now you've reworded your original argument. And the answer to
your present question is because we are a sentient species, and
recognize that youth has not yet provided the full recognition of the
consequences of one's actions. That comes through maturity. And
if an adult has not matured enough to recognize the consequences
of his actions, or understand the consequences of any court proceeding
that would take place during a trial, he is considered incompetent to
even stand trial. While I don't recommend that for children who
commit crimes.
However; we totally set aside any trial for such an adult, until or if
they ever are considered competent to stand trial recognizing the
consequence of their past actions. So why should we punish a child as
an adult considering the psychological fact that a child has not
matured to the same extent as an adult who does recognize the
consequences of his actions?
In any case, the criminal justice system is not based 100% on
punishment, but on public safety, and rehabilitation as well, and a
child has a much greater capacity to be possibly rehabilitated then
does a hardened adult life-time criminal.
Actually I was thinking about the drunk driving
convictions of Bush and Cheney.
>
>
>> 2) Unless you have a time machine how do you know
>> who the "next victims" are and who will victimize them?
>>
> The people who commit violent crimes tend to continue doing so,
Proof?
> so
> lock them up, or give them the death penalty, but separate them
> from their next victims.
"Offenders released for murder had the lowest recidivism
rates for all offenders released in 2002-2004."
http://www.in.gov/idoc/files/DOC_Recidivism_summary_041008.pdf
I don't see how driving a multithousand pound car at 65 miles per
hour feet away from others going the other direction at similar
speeds while you are blasted out of your mind on peppermint
schnapps is "victimless". The fact that in a specific instance no
one was killed or injured is more luck than anything else.
> >> 2) Unless you have a time machine how do you know
> >> who the "next victims" are and who will victimize them?
> >>
> > The people who commit violent crimes tend to continue doing so,
>
> Proof?
>
So you think that you or I, assuming we both have never been much
for needless violence, are as likely to commit violent acts as
someone who regularly commits violence on innocents?
Really? You don't say?
>
> What I DON'T propose we do with children who kill... is KILL THEM!
> We have quite enough adult serial killers and pedophile murderers
> to keep the Justice System at work with the death penalty as it is.
What you propose to do? Are you a hanging judge or an executioner?
A murderer is a murderer. When you get selective you encourage
discrimination and I understood that you opposed discrimination.
Interesting observation. You assert that IQ has relevence here when such is
clearly a response of emotion. I know of no living person with a registered
IQ of 32 but I do rememer hearing many who wanted thier blood. I also expect
that James Bulger's parent have an IQ of reater than 32.
>Do you approve the execution of 10 year olds?
Unlikely. I oppose the death penalty in all its forms of hipocrisy.
> I and others
> do not think that eight years detention (not imprisonment) was a safe
> solution.
For whom? Do you beleive that when thier imprisonment is spent tha a lynch
mob will be waiting? Do you think that the angry will care whether these
boys are reformed? do you think that the boys lost even a night's sleep
through guilt over what they did? Fear not, I will not be joining those
calling for blood.
J
No. I amended it and added a predicate.
>And the answer to
> your present question is because we are a sentient species, and
> recognize that youth has not yet provided the full recognition of the
> consequences of one's actions. That comes through maturity. And
> if an adult has not matured enough to recognize the consequences
> of his actions, or understand the consequences of any court proceeding
> that would take place during a trial, he is considered incompetent to
> even stand trial. While I don't recommend that for children who
> commit crimes.
Maturity is a subjective term; not the word itself but it's boundaries.
Americans beleive that a child is not mature until the age of 18, in
Britian, 16. In historical Britain, even younger.
>
> However; we totally set aside any trial for such an adult, until or if
> they ever are considered competent to stand trial recognizing the
> consequence of their past actions. So why should we punish a child as
> an adult considering the psychological fact that a child has not
> matured to the same extent as an adult who does recognize the
> consequences of his actions?
If a person deliberatly kills another then it is murder. The age of the
criminal makes the crime any less real.
>
> In any case, the criminal justice system is not based 100% on
> punishment, but on public safety, and rehabilitation as well, and a
> child has a much greater capacity to be possibly rehabilitated then
> does a hardened adult life-time criminal.
>
The death penalty is purly for public revenge and nothing more. The
retentionists use public safety as an excuse to justify execution. If not
there would be fewer executions as so many of those on death row can be
rehabilitaed
Wouldn't do you any harm to look up the James Bulger case. I too
am against the DP but that doesn't mean that I think these two boys
should have been treated quite so leniently. They were both
released after eight years with new identities but one has been re-
arrested in the past few months for unspecified offences.
I certainly wasn't using Kelvin.
J
Yes. I recall this (the release I mean, not the re-arrest)
Consider that these boys will never lead a normal life. Thier incarceration
maybe over but thier "imprisonment" certainly isn't.
J
32 is room temperature? Jebus. I'd be sweating like a rapist in that ...
--
Look at all the waifs of Dickensian England.
Why is it their suffering is more picturesque?
Must be 'cause their rags are so very Victorian.
The ones here at home just don't give it their best. - Suzanne Vega.
Who were the victims of the drunk driving
crimes of Bush and Cheney?
>
>
>> >> 2) Unless you have a time machine how do you know
>> >> who the "next victims" are and who will victimize them?
>> >>
>> > The people who commit violent crimes tend to continue doing so,
>>
>> Proof?
>>
> So you think that you or I, assuming we both have never been much
> for needless violence, are as likely to commit violent acts as
> someone who regularly commits violence on innocents?
Just back up your claim.
Er....your "opinion"...........
Thankfully no one was hurt. But they could have been which is why I
disapprove of drinking and driving, Holman.
> >
> >
> >> >> 2) Unless you have a time machine how do you know
> >> >> who the "next victims" are and who will victimize them?
> >> >>
> >> > The people who commit violent crimes tend to continue doing so,
> >>
> >> Proof?
> >>
> > So you think that you or I, assuming we both have never been much
> > for needless violence, are as likely to commit violent acts as
> > someone who regularly commits violence on innocents?
>
> Just back up your claim.
>
I just did, doof.
I like it warm.. The room temperrature that is.
J
Such an "offense" calls in to question whom it's an offense against.
>
>
>> 2) Unless you have a time machine how do you know
>> who the "next victims" are and who will victimize them?
>>
> The people who commit violent crimes tend to continue doing so, so
> lock them up, or give them the death penalty, but separate them
> from their next victims.
You appear to be suggesting that every single criminal re-offends. We'll
overlook that you cannot possibly know this for the moment ad imagine that
what you said might be true. Should it be so then it would prove without
fear of contradiction that your legal system is a failure.
J
Well, you did seem confused.
>> What I DON'T propose we do with children who kill... is KILL THEM!
>> We have quite enough adult serial killers and pedophile murderers
>> to keep the Justice System at work with the death penalty as it is.
>
>What you propose to do? Are you a hanging judge or an executioner?
>A murderer is a murderer. When you get selective you encourage
>discrimination and I understood that you opposed discrimination.
Well I believe those who commit capital murder have discriminated
against their victims. Thus I simply suggest society has a right to
discriminate between those who are convicted of capital murder and
those who have not been convicted of capital murder.
I believe those who actually commit capital murder have forfeited
any "right to life," and have placed their lives in the hands of
society to determine what society will do to them to protect other
members of society from the danger such capital murderers represent.
If a state desires to end capital punishment I have no problem with
them doing so. What I do have a problem with is those who
discriminate against the U.S. citizens of states having the death
penalty as a criminal statute to use in certain cases of capital
murder with aggravating circumstances. I have a hunch that
you're one of those who supports such discrimination.
Oh, dear fellow. There is no confusion other than your failure to recognise
sarcasm. :)
>
>>> What I DON'T propose we do with children who kill... is KILL THEM!
>>> We have quite enough adult serial killers and pedophile murderers
>>> to keep the Justice System at work with the death penalty as it is.
>>
>>What you propose to do? Are you a hanging judge or an executioner?
>>A murderer is a murderer. When you get selective you encourage
>>discrimination and I understood that you opposed discrimination.
>
> Well I believe those who commit capital murder have discriminated
> against their victims. Thus I simply suggest society has a right to
> discriminate between those who are convicted of capital murder and
> those who have not been convicted of capital murder.
There is absolutely no logical flow in the paragraph you just authored.
>
> I believe those who actually commit capital murder have forfeited
> any "right to life," and have placed their lives in the hands of
> society to determine what society will do to them to protect other
> members of society from the danger such capital murderers represent.
> If a state desires to end capital punishment I have no problem with
> them doing so. What I do have a problem with is those who
> discriminate against the U.S. citizens of states having the death
> penalty as a criminal statute to use in certain cases of capital
> murder with aggravating circumstances. I have a hunch that
> you're one of those who supports such discrimination.
>
My dear fellow, you have just declared albiet in an elegant way that you
support the death penalty. This fact we are already aware of; so the
paragraph you just authored was sadly a waste of your efforts. However,
without reservation, I thoroughly oppose the desease that is the death
penalty. We do not have the to say who has the right to life. That honour is
strictly owned by something higher than ourselves. Executing someone for
murder is stating that we don't stand by our own values regarding homicide.
I have no stomach for such attitudes.
J
I must recognize sarcasm since my comment was meant as sarcasm.
You were the one seemingly confused as to the mention of "spanking."
>>
>>>> What I DON'T propose we do with children who kill... is KILL THEM!
>>>> We have quite enough adult serial killers and pedophile murderers
>>>> to keep the Justice System at work with the death penalty as it is.
>>>
>>>What you propose to do? Are you a hanging judge or an executioner?
>>>A murderer is a murderer. When you get selective you encourage
>>>discrimination and I understood that you opposed discrimination.
>>
>> Well I believe those who commit capital murder have discriminated
>> against their victims. Thus I simply suggest society has a right to
>> discriminate between those who are convicted of capital murder and
>> those who have not been convicted of capital murder.
>
>There is absolutely no logical flow in the paragraph you just authored.
>
No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>> I believe those who actually commit capital murder have forfeited
>> any "right to life," and have placed their lives in the hands of
>> society to determine what society will do to them to protect other
>> members of society from the danger such capital murderers represent.
>> If a state desires to end capital punishment I have no problem with
>> them doing so. What I do have a problem with is those who
>> discriminate against the U.S. citizens of states having the death
>> penalty as a criminal statute to use in certain cases of capital
>> murder with aggravating circumstances. I have a hunch that
>> you're one of those who supports such discrimination.
>>
>
>My dear fellow, you have just declared albiet in an elegant way that you
>support the death penalty.
No shit, Dick Tracy. But only to a limited extent. Limited to the
U.S. use of the death penalty with all the rigorous due process, open
trial, and unanimous agreement by 12 citizens tasked with the role
of judging both the guilt and the applicability of the death penalty
in each particular case. Clearly I'd be thrilled if murderers
provided the same legal benefits to their victims as U.S. society
provides to those murderers. As Lord Clane, a former poster to
AADP stated in support of the death penalty in the U.S. -- "I would be
utter delighted if the only times criminals committed homicide they
followed the same procedures used by the state. This would require a
formal accusation of homicide in violation of statutory law on the
part of the victim, for which execution was an already prescribed
punishment (no ex post facto determinations!); public trial of the
victim by jury in accordance with due process and with access to legal
representation; a requirement that the crimes of the victim be proven
beyond reasonable doubt; similar opportunities for appeal by higher
courts; and, in the actual homicide, limitation to use of the humane
methods embodied in current law..." Not to mention a time frame
of decades between announcing the intent to murder his victim and
the actual commission of that murder.
I oppose all death penalty laws that do not include the crime of
capital murder, thus I obviously oppose the death penalty laws of
Islamic Sharia. I oppose the execution of the retarded or those
mentally incompetent to understand the consequences of their
crime. I oppose the execution of anyone who committed their
crime under the age of 18. I don't speak or form an opinion
about the death penalty in other countries since almost all
countries whether they use the death penalty or not do not
have the same protections that we afford to those accused of
crimes. I concern myself only with the capital murderers who are
within my society, and threaten members of my society.
Nor do I care if the EU decides to hold a parade and give a weekend
with Miss EU to every convicted murderer in the EU. That's just their
choice, and I'd like equal consideration by the EU in no longer
sticking their nose in the U.S. choice of deciding what to do with our
murderers.
I've found that abolitionists, by and large, base their opposition to
the death penalty on "moral grounds," as you argue that is your
objection.. moral grounds having very little objective evidence to
offer in support of abolition, other than weeping and wailing for
the lives of all murderers, while casting nothing but obscenities
and sick insults at retentionist. However; as a retentionist I can
point to hundreds of cases of murderers who were not executed who
murdered again.... See --
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/doublemurderers.htm
This is what's considered FACTUAL objective evidence. Who
is responsible for those murders if not _abolitionists_ to some
extent? What have I been responsible for... other than supporting
the execution of about 1100 worst of the worst murderers in
U.S. history, during the past 30 years?
>This fact we are already aware of; so the
>paragraph you just authored was sadly a waste of your efforts. However,
>without reservation, I thoroughly oppose the desease that is the death
>penalty.
Ad hominem added to argument only shows how desperate you are
to personally attack retentionists. Some retentionist even argue that
we should "kill the retentionists," in their moral outrage accompanied
by Bible-thumping. It would add nothing to the argument to call
abolition "the diseased" attempt to save the lives of every murderer.
It only hopes to raise the level of rhetoric to incoherent screaming
at each other. Provide some relevant, non-Bible-thumping,
non-moralist, evidence that would show we are better off in
term of "protecting the right to life" of our citizens by not
executing any murderer.
>We do not have the to say who has the right to life.
There is no such thing as "the right to life" in any absolute sense.
That's Biblical nonsense. God has not put those words up in the
sky for everyone to know, because God doesn't really give a shit
about individual lives, or even the lives of our entire species. The
only "right to life" that exists is such subjectively given by various
societies to their members. It is subjective, because it is not
something you can touch or feel. It is not an object that exists
in reality. Nor is it an _absolute_, since different societies
determine different views of what is that "right to life."
That being said... we are talking ONLY about the U.S. death penalty.
In the U.S., the "right to life" is not an absolute. The U.S.
constitution clearly provides for the possibility of the death
penalty. It does protect in the form of prohibiting "double
jeopardy," and it does protect in the form of prohibiting "cruel and
unusual punishment." But the death penalty per se is not considered
"cruel and unusual punishment."
>That honour is
>strictly owned by something higher than ourselves.
ROTFLMAO. Who would that be? I thought you said you weren't
religious. Now I see you thumping that Bible. Is this something
"it" told you in a dream... or are you a prophet uttering a revelation
from your "something higher than ourselves"? How come "it" never
told me? Are you claiming to be "special"?
Should I say it?? Oh... what the hell...
No proof offered. Your claim fails.
> Executing someone for
>murder is stating that we don't stand by our own values regarding homicide.
>I have no stomach for such attitudes.
No one asked you. Your personal feelings did not protect Colleen
Reed. She was abducted from a car wash, and tortured and raped
the entire night by Kenneth McDuff, who then stated that he would
"use her up," in murdering her with as much torture as possible.
Kenneth McDuff had already been sentenced to death prior to
his abducting Colleen Reed, but had his death penalty sentence
overturned by the Supreme Court when the Supreme Court ruled
that the death penalty as presently created in statutes was "cruel
and unusual" in Furman v. Georgia, resulting in the release from the
death penalty of hundreds of capital murderers. Kenneth McDuff was
then released and continued his spree of murders, none of which would
have happened had the feelings of 12 citizens been honored. See --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_McDuff
How's it feel to have supported the murder of Colleen Reed to
save the life of Kenneth McDuff?
Exactly. And in doing so reworded your original argument... which is
what I said. You originally offered a specific subset of criminals...
those specifically having committed murder. In your following comment
you changed your argument to the set of all criminals. That's called
"rewording your argument."
>>And the answer to
>> your present question is because we are a sentient species, and
>> recognize that youth has not yet provided the full recognition of the
>> consequences of one's actions. That comes through maturity. And
>> if an adult has not matured enough to recognize the consequences
>> of his actions, or understand the consequences of any court proceeding
>> that would take place during a trial, he is considered incompetent to
>> even stand trial. While I don't recommend that for children who
>> commit crimes.
>
>Maturity is a subjective term;
All things that are mental abstractions such as "maturity" are
subjective.
>not the word itself but it's boundaries.
Just because a word exists in the dictionary does not make it
"objective." If it did then EVERYTHING would be "objective,"
and the definition of "subjective" would be false. Certainly
words such as "love," "anger," and "fear," exist as words in
the English dictionary, but to argue they are "objective" is
as silly as arguing that the moon is made of cheese.
If you can't touch it as an "object" then it is not "objective." The
word "soul," exists in the English dictionary, but you'd look
like a fool to claim the "soul" has an "objective" existence,
because the word "soul" exists in an English dictionary.
The dictionary itself has an "objective" existence, but the
words inside only describe things that are either "objective"
and have a physical existence which no one can deny or
"subjective" mental abstractions, depending upon how one
feels about something using that mental abstraction.
>Americans beleive that a child is not mature until the age of 18, in
>Britian, 16. In historical Britain, even younger.
I don't believe in the execution of anyone who commits murder
under the age of 18. I'm totally disinterested in the laws in the
U.K.
>> However; we totally set aside any trial for such an adult, until or if
>> they ever are considered competent to stand trial recognizing the
>> consequence of their past actions. So why should we punish a child as
>> an adult considering the psychological fact that a child has not
>> matured to the same extent as an adult who does recognize the
>> consequences of his actions?
>
>If a person deliberatly kills another then it is murder.
Wrong. If a person deliberately kills another then it is
considered as "homicide," unless certain other conditions
exist. See --
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/homicide
One can deliberately kill another in self-defense. In which
case it is "justifiable homicide," if the justice system determines
such a killing was "justified in self-defense." There are many
other situations in which society determines that deliberately
killing another is "justifiable homicide." See --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justifiable_homicide
While manslaughter is "The unlawful killing of one human by another
without express or implied intent to do injury." See --
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/manslaughter
This constitutes an "unlawful killing," a subset of "homicide."
And this crime holds the difference in mens rea... the mind of the
person having killed another.. between murder. In manslaughter,
the killer of another, while having killed unlawfully, does not hold
the state of mind considered "malice aforethought." While the killing
would be deliberate, but not "thought out beforehand." Such a
killing would usually be a homicide caused by drunken driving.
No intention to kill aforethought.
Finally, a person who deliberately kills another with both mens rea
(a guilty mind), and actus reus (a guilty act - one acted upon
voluntarily) , could be prosecuted for murder (in various degrees)
if there was an element of deliberation, and malice aforethought
before committing that murder. Planning to do it... is an element
essential in trying to convict a person of murder. Voluntary and
deliberate are also essential elements of the crime of murder.
>The age of the
>criminal makes the crime any less real.
>
Errr... what are you trying to say??? The age of the criminal DOES
NOT make the crime any less real.
>>
>> In any case, the criminal justice system is not based 100% on
>> punishment, but on public safety, and rehabilitation as well, and a
>> child has a much greater capacity to be possibly rehabilitated then
>> does a hardened adult life-time criminal.
>>
>
>The death penalty is purly for public revenge and nothing more.
Wrong. Every criminal statute in the U.S. qualifies the death penalty
as an instrument of public safety, where it exists in criminal
statutes. That is the bedrock purpose of a criminal justice system,
other than those such as Islamic Sharia. Punishment is simply
considers a means to create better public safety. The death penalty
is simply another punishment in the U.S. criminal justice system.
> The
>retentionists use public safety as an excuse to justify execution. If not
>there would be fewer executions as so many of those on death row can be
>rehabilitaed
No proof offered. Your claim fails. How come these murderers could
not be rehabilitated? ==
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/doublemurderers.htm
Recognizing sarcasm is knowing it when seeing it, and not just knowing it
when you use it yourself, dear sir.
>
>>>
>>>>> What I DON'T propose we do with children who kill... is KILL THEM!
>>>>> We have quite enough adult serial killers and pedophile murderers
>>>>> to keep the Justice System at work with the death penalty as it is.
>>>>
>>>>What you propose to do? Are you a hanging judge or an executioner?
>>>>A murderer is a murderer. When you get selective you encourage
>>>>discrimination and I understood that you opposed discrimination.
>>>
>>> Well I believe those who commit capital murder have discriminated
>>> against their victims. Thus I simply suggest society has a right to
>>> discriminate between those who are convicted of capital murder and
>>> those who have not been convicted of capital murder.
>>
>>There is absolutely no logical flow in the paragraph you just authored.
>>
>
> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
You were consistent there in that your present comment is equallt lacking in
logical flow.
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/knee-jerk
I mentioned that you previous comment that you supported the death penalty
was redundant as we already knew your position then you responded by posting
an even longer one.
Curious!
>>We do not have the to say who has the right to life.
>
> There is no such thing as "the right to life" in any absolute sense.
> That's Biblical nonsense. God has not put those words up in the
> sky for everyone to know, because God doesn't really give a shit
> about individual lives, or even the lives of our entire species. The
> only "right to life" that exists is such subjectively given by various
> societies to their members. It is subjective, because it is not
> something you can touch or feel. It is not an object that exists
> in reality. Nor is it an _absolute_, since different societies
> determine different views of what is that "right to life."
"There is no such thing as "the right to life" in any absolute sense.That's
Biblical nonsense"
I disagree dear sir. We are born so we are given the right to life. It is
not for us to say who can keep that right to life and who can't.
>
> That being said... we are talking ONLY about the U.S. death penalty.
> In the U.S., the "right to life" is not an absolute. The U.S.
> constitution clearly provides for the possibility of the death
> penalty. It does protect in the form of prohibiting "double
> jeopardy," and it does protect in the form of prohibiting "cruel and
> unusual punishment." But the death penalty per se is not considered
> "cruel and unusual punishment."
You don't observe cooking someone alive in a chair as cruel and unusual? You
don't see keeping them suspended under "due process" often for years at a
time before you finally kill the poor indivual. Such is not better than the
chinese water torture only over a longer duration.
>
>>That honour is
>>strictly owned by something higher than ourselves.
>
> ROTFLMAO. Who would that be? I thought you said you weren't
> religious. Now I see you thumping that Bible. Is this something
> "it" told you in a dream... or are you a prophet uttering a revelation
> from your "something higher than ourselves"? How come "it" never
> told me? Are you claiming to be "special"?
>
"Who would that be?"
Unknown.
"I thought you said you weren't religious. "
You meant to type, "I thought you said that you're not religious. "
The "thought" is past tense, my religious status is not. That aside, you are
quite right. I am not religious.
"Now I see you thumping that Bible"
I gave no mention to Jehovah or to any particular diety nor did a give
reference to any particular doctrined or derivatives thereof. Therefor your
term, "Thumping the bible" is another one of your innacurate assertions
>
" Should I say it?? Oh... what the hell... No proof offered. Your claim
fails."
That was based from a false premise hence moot.
>
>> Executing someone for
>>murder is stating that we don't stand by our own values regarding
>>homicide.
>>I have no stomach for such attitudes.
>
> No one asked you. Your personal feelings did not protect Colleen
> Reed. She was abducted from a car wash, and tortured and raped
> the entire night by Kenneth McDuff, who then stated that he would
> "use her up," in murdering her with as much torture as possible.
>
"No one asked you"
Irrelevent. I shall speak out regardless as have many before me and as shall
many succeeding me.
" Your personal feelings did not protect Colleen Reed"
And neither did your death penalty!
> Kenneth McDuff had already been sentenced to death prior to
> his abducting Colleen Reed, but had his death penalty sentence
> overturned by the Supreme Court when the Supreme Court ruled
> that the death penalty as presently created in statutes was "cruel
> and unusual" in Furman v. Georgia, resulting in the release from the
> death penalty of hundreds of capital murderers. Kenneth McDuff was
> then released and continued his spree of murders, none of which would
> have happened had the feelings of 12 citizens been honored. See --
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_McDuff
Then you put the man away in a mental institution, sir. Kenneth McDuff was
obviously insane.
>
> How's it feel to have supported the murder of Colleen Reed to
> save the life of Kenneth McDuff?
We oppose the death penalty.We do not oppose incarceration of the insane. If
your government released on obvious madman into a situation where he is
going to kill again then the fault is that of your government. Do not try to
blame us for your mistakes.
J
No, dear fellow. The wording structure remained static. It was amended with
a predicate but that aside, there is no harm in such a practice.
>
>>>And the answer to
>>> your present question is because we are a sentient species, and
>>> recognize that youth has not yet provided the full recognition of the
>>> consequences of one's actions. That comes through maturity. And
>>> if an adult has not matured enough to recognize the consequences
>>> of his actions, or understand the consequences of any court proceeding
>>> that would take place during a trial, he is considered incompetent to
>>> even stand trial. While I don't recommend that for children who
>>> commit crimes.
>>
>>Maturity is a subjective term;
>
> All things that are mental abstractions such as "maturity" are
> subjective.
>
As I said, "Maturity is a subjective term;"
>>not the word itself but it's boundaries.
>
> Just because a word exists in the dictionary does not make it
> "objective." If it did then EVERYTHING would be "objective,"
> and the definition of "subjective" would be false. Certainly
> words such as "love," "anger," and "fear," exist as words in
> the English dictionary, but to argue they are "objective" is
> as silly as arguing that the moon is made of cheese.
> If you can't touch it as an "object" then it is not "objective." The
> word "soul," exists in the English dictionary, but you'd look
> like a fool to claim the "soul" has an "objective" existence,
> because the word "soul" exists in an English dictionary.
> The dictionary itself has an "objective" existence, but the
> words inside only describe things that are either "objective"
> and have a physical existence which no one can deny or
> "subjective" mental abstractions, depending upon how one
> feels about something using that mental abstraction.
Dictionary definitions have a purpose for a reason and they serve that
purpose well until people like you think you can redefine them.
>
>>Americans beleive that a child is not mature until the age of 18, in
>>Britian, 16. In historical Britain, even younger.
>
> I don't believe in the execution of anyone who commits murder
> under the age of 18. I'm totally disinterested in the laws in the
> U.K.
Murder is murder. You support death penalty or you oppose it. "Ifs and buts"
give rise to descrimination.
>
>>> However; we totally set aside any trial for such an adult, until or if
>>> they ever are considered competent to stand trial recognizing the
>>> consequence of their past actions. So why should we punish a child as
>>> an adult considering the psychological fact that a child has not
>>> matured to the same extent as an adult who does recognize the
>>> consequences of his actions?
>>
>>If a person deliberatly kills another then it is murder.
>
> Wrong. If a person deliberately kills another then it is
> considered as "homicide," unless certain other conditions
> exist. See --
> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/homicide
> One can deliberately kill another in self-defense. In which
> case it is "justifiable homicide," if the justice system determines
> such a killing was "justified in self-defense." There are many
> other situations in which society determines that deliberately
> killing another is "justifiable homicide." See --
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justifiable_homicide
Self defense is catagorized as manslaugher.
Homicide is the killing of one person by another
"
hom�i�cide (hm-sd, hm-) KEY
NOUN:
1.. The killing of one person by another.
2.. A person who kills another person.
"
Cite: education.yahoo.com
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/homicide
Date accessed: 23rd may 2010
There is no mention there to the deliberation of the killing.
>
> While manslaughter is "The unlawful killing of one human by another
> without express or implied intent to do injury." See --
> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/manslaughter
> This constitutes an "unlawful killing," a subset of "homicide."
> And this crime holds the difference in mens rea... the mind of the
> person having killed another.. between murder. In manslaughter,
> the killer of another, while having killed unlawfully, does not hold
> the state of mind considered "malice aforethought." While the killing
> would be deliberate, but not "thought out beforehand." Such a
> killing would usually be a homicide caused by drunken driving.
> No intention to kill aforethought.
>
> Finally, a person who deliberately kills another with both mens rea
> (a guilty mind), and actus reus (a guilty act - one acted upon
> voluntarily) , could be prosecuted for murder (in various degrees)
> if there was an element of deliberation, and malice aforethought
> before committing that murder. Planning to do it... is an element
> essential in trying to convict a person of murder. Voluntary and
> deliberate are also essential elements of the crime of murder.
This is moot and does not support your argument.
>
>>The age of the
>>criminal makes the crime any less real.
>>
>
> Errr... what are you trying to say??? The age of the criminal DOES
> NOT make the crime any less real.
Yes.
>
>>>
>>> In any case, the criminal justice system is not based 100% on
>>> punishment, but on public safety, and rehabilitation as well, and a
>>> child has a much greater capacity to be possibly rehabilitated then
>>> does a hardened adult life-time criminal.
>>>
>>
>>The death penalty is purly for public revenge and nothing more.
>
> Wrong. Every criminal statute in the U.S. qualifies the death penalty
> as an instrument of public safety, where it exists in criminal
> statutes. That is the bedrock purpose of a criminal justice system,
> other than those such as Islamic Sharia. Punishment is simply
> considers a means to create better public safety. The death penalty
> is simply another punishment in the U.S. criminal justice system.
>
Nonsence. If public safety were the purpose of the death penalty then you
would only execute the prisoners who could not be contained and you would
execute anyone who displays sociopathic tendancies regardless of whether
they commited such a crime or not. You can deceive yourself if you desire
with your "reason for the death penalty being exclusively public safety"
nonsense if you choose but you cannot deceive me with it. Your death penalty
is to satisfy the public's lust for blood.
>> The
>>retentionists use public safety as an excuse to justify execution. If not
>>there would be fewer executions as so many of those on death row can be
>>rehabilitaed
>
> No proof offered. Your claim fails. How come these murderers could
> not be rehabilitated? ==
> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/doublemurderers.htm
>
Is that really your best argument? I truly hope not.
J
No, sport... you reworded YOUR original argument. Perhaps this is too
complicated for you but all criminals are not murderers.
>No, dear fellow. The wording structure remained static.
Nothing that changes has remained "static." Chee... but you remain
incredibly paedomorphic. One might argue you are statically
paedomorphic.
>It was amended with
>a predicate but that aside, there is no harm in such a practice.
It was amended with a change in subject. Changing the word "murderer"
to "children who commit crime." That's an entirely different set of
parameters to examine. All I did was point out that the SCOTUS
ruling had NOTHING to do with children who commit murder. I
doubt you even read the article itself, but found yourself locked up
trying to defend your initial ignorance.
A. Do you admit the original article had nothing to do with
"murderers"?
B. Do you see that your comment was offered in respect to
"murderers"?
Do you see that B has nothing to do... absolutely nothing to do...
with A?
>>>>And the answer to
>>>> your present question is because we are a sentient species, and
>>>> recognize that youth has not yet provided the full recognition of the
>>>> consequences of one's actions. That comes through maturity. And
>>>> if an adult has not matured enough to recognize the consequences
>>>> of his actions, or understand the consequences of any court proceeding
>>>> that would take place during a trial, he is considered incompetent to
>>>> even stand trial. While I don't recommend that for children who
>>>> commit crimes.
>>>
>>>Maturity is a subjective term;
>>
>> All things that are mental abstractions such as "maturity" are
>> subjective.
>>
>
>As I said, "Maturity is a subjective term;"
Stating the obvious isn't necessary. I'm well aware of the difference
between objective and subjective. In fact, I've been trying to teach
your hard head the difference for about a week now. "Prejudice"
is also a subjective term. Yet you seem terribly confused about it...
using your buzzword "static," which you apparently think is
some sort of aphorism, rather than vacuous nonsense.
>>>not the word itself but it's boundaries.
>>
>> Just because a word exists in the dictionary does not make it
>> "objective." If it did then EVERYTHING would be "objective,"
>> and the definition of "subjective" would be false. Certainly
>> words such as "love," "anger," and "fear," exist as words in
>> the English dictionary, but to argue they are "objective" is
>> as silly as arguing that the moon is made of cheese.
>> If you can't touch it as an "object" then it is not "objective." The
>> word "soul," exists in the English dictionary, but you'd look
>> like a fool to claim the "soul" has an "objective" existence,
>> because the word "soul" exists in an English dictionary.
>> The dictionary itself has an "objective" existence, but the
>> words inside only describe things that are either "objective"
>> and have a physical existence which no one can deny or
>> "subjective" mental abstractions, depending upon how one
>> feels about something using that mental abstraction.
>
>Dictionary definitions have a purpose for a reason and they serve that
>purpose well until people like you think you can redefine them.
>
You mean like you do in this definition --
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/black
"3. a. Of or belonging to a racial group having brown to black
skin.
b. Of or belonging to an American ethnic group descended from
African peoples having dark skin.
In fact, I do not redefine definitions. I use them as weapons to
crush idiots like you, who have little knowledge of the English
language, and thus distort words in a biased effort to twist to your
own sick agenda.
>>>Americans beleive that a child is not mature until the age of 18, in
>>>Britian, 16. In historical Britain, even younger.
>>
>> I don't believe in the execution of anyone who commits murder
>> under the age of 18. I'm totally disinterested in the laws in the
>> U.K.
>
>Murder is murder. You support death penalty or you oppose it. "Ifs and buts"
>give rise to descrimination.
>
Correct premise. Wrong inference. Wrong conclusion. The U.S. death
penalty is not murder. I support only the U.S. death penalty. Crazy
arguments that if I support the U.S. death penalty I must also support
Islamic Sharia, is riddled with an incredible number of logic
failures. I could argue that if you oppose the death penalty then you
oppose any self-defense actions a person may take to defend his life.
I say this only to show how stupid your conclusion is regarding my
support for the death penalty in the U.S. means I support every death
penalty in the world. No other country, other than the U.S. provides
the constitutional protections and due process that is available to
all those accused of murder. You manage to shift the meaning of
my views, you manage to again argue from ignorance, you manage
to again argue in bifurcation, you manage to again use the fallacy
of presupposition, you manage to again use the fallacy of composition,
you manage to arrive at a hasty generalization, you manage to
argue the logical fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc, you use a
sweeping generalization, you arrive at an irrelevant conclusion,
you use a non sequitur, you use a red herring, and you argue a
straw man. All in one short comment.
You're not happy merely assassinating the English language, you
want to crucify it before murdering it.
>>>> However; we totally set aside any trial for such an adult, until or if
>>>> they ever are considered competent to stand trial recognizing the
>>>> consequence of their past actions. So why should we punish a child as
>>>> an adult considering the psychological fact that a child has not
>>>> matured to the same extent as an adult who does recognize the
>>>> consequences of his actions?
>>>
>>>If a person deliberatly kills another then it is murder.
>>
>> Wrong. If a person deliberately kills another then it is
>> considered as "homicide," unless certain other conditions
>> exist. See --
>> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/homicide
>> One can deliberately kill another in self-defense. In which
>> case it is "justifiable homicide," if the justice system determines
>> such a killing was "justified in self-defense." There are many
>> other situations in which society determines that deliberately
>> killing another is "justifiable homicide." See --
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justifiable_homicide
>
>Self defense is catagorized as manslaugher.
Wrong again. Manslaughter is defined as "Illegal killing." A true
self-defense killing after examination of it being true self-defense
by the district prosecutor is not an "illegal killing." See --
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/manslaughter
Quote -- "Manslaughter: The unlawful killing of one human by
another without express or implied intent to do injury."
You really are an amateur when it comes to the law.
>Homicide is the killing of one person by another
>
>"
>hom�i�cide (hm-sd, hm-) KEY
>
>NOUN:
>
> 1.. The killing of one person by another.
> 2.. A person who kills another person.
>"
>
>Cite: education.yahoo.com
>http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/homicide
>Date accessed: 23rd may 2010
>
>There is no mention there to the deliberation of the killing.
That's what I said, you moron. Homicide does not necessarily
involve deliberation. But it can. Deliberation under the law
is a very complex issue. There can be deliberation in homicide,
and manslaughter, and murder. While there be a lack of
deliberation in homicide and manslaughter. Murder must show
deliberation. Why is this so hard for you to grasp??? Is the
retention of facts really that difficult for you.
There is no mention of homicide being "legal" or "illegal." The only
way that manslaughter and homicide can be considered synonyms is
if one prefaces the word "homicide," with the word "illegal."
"illegal homicide" can be either manslaughter or murder. "legal
homicide," is considered justifiable homicide, and it includes the
legal death penalty, killing in clear self-defense, and various other
cases in which society determines the killing was necessary, such as a
sniper killing a terrorist who has taken hostages and threatens to
murder them.
Homicide is the ONLY term that can be used to describe a legal
killing. And it usually needs an adjective to state whether it was
"legal" or "illegal." But lacking that adjective it is considered
"legal" because it lacks the definition of "illegal."
>> While manslaughter is "The unlawful killing of one human by another
>> without express or implied intent to do injury." See --
>> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/manslaughter
>> This constitutes an "unlawful killing," a subset of "homicide."
>> And this crime holds the difference in mens rea... the mind of the
>> person having killed another.. between murder. In manslaughter,
>> the killer of another, while having killed unlawfully, does not hold
>> the state of mind considered "malice aforethought." While the killing
>> would be deliberate, but not "thought out beforehand." Such a
>> killing would usually be a homicide caused by drunken driving.
>> No intention to kill aforethought.
>>
>> Finally, a person who deliberately kills another with both mens rea
>> (a guilty mind), and actus reus (a guilty act - one acted upon
>> voluntarily) , could be prosecuted for murder (in various degrees)
>> if there was an element of deliberation, and malice aforethought
>> before committing that murder. Planning to do it... is an element
>> essential in trying to convict a person of murder. Voluntary and
>> deliberate are also essential elements of the crime of murder.
>
>This is moot and does not support your argument.
>
TRANSLATION "Shit... now PV is throwing stuff at me that is much too
complicated for me to understand. And if I can't understand it... it
must be moot to me."
I'll bet you didn't have any idea of what mens rea and actus reus even
means.
>>
>>>The age of the
>>>criminal makes the crime any less real.
>>>
>>
>> Errr... what are you trying to say??? The age of the criminal DOES
>> NOT make the crime any less real.
>
>Yes.
That isn't what you wrote, stupid. I was correcting your comment.
>>>> In any case, the criminal justice system is not based 100% on
>>>> punishment, but on public safety, and rehabilitation as well, and a
>>>> child has a much greater capacity to be possibly rehabilitated then
>>>> does a hardened adult life-time criminal.
>>>>
>>>
>>>The death penalty is purly for public revenge and nothing more.
>>
>> Wrong. Every criminal statute in the U.S. qualifies the death penalty
>> as an instrument of public safety, where it exists in criminal
>> statutes. That is the bedrock purpose of a criminal justice system,
>> other than those such as Islamic Sharia. Punishment is simply
>> considers a means to create better public safety. The death penalty
>> is simply another punishment in the U.S. criminal justice system.
>>
>
>Nonsence.
No proof offered your claim fails. BTW -- your answer is "nonsense."
> If public safety were the purpose of the death penalty then you
>would only execute the prisoners who could not be contained and you would
>execute anyone who displays sociopathic tendancies regardless of whether
>they commited such a crime or not.
No proof offered. Your claim fails. If we had a perfect justice
system we would not convict the innocent, and we would never
permit an innocent to die in prison. And yet, both of those happen
rather routinely. While there is no evidence that an innocent has
been executed since the death penalty was reinstated 30 years ago,
in Gregg v. Georgia. We accept the fact that we will make mistakes
in the criminal justice system because it is impossible to be
absolutely sure of guilt. That is why we have the standard of "beyond
a reasonable doubt." If we had no standard at all, or a standard
which demanded absolute proof of guilt who could convict no one.
And the guilty would laugh in our face and continue their murderous
rampage.
>You can deceive yourself if you desire
>with your "reason for the death penalty being exclusively public safety"
>nonsense if you choose but you cannot deceive me with it. Your death penalty
>is to satisfy the public's lust for blood.
You're the one deceiving yourself. I have proof. See --
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/doublemurderers.htm
Here are just a few of the murderers who appear well qualified for
the death penalty before they managed to be sentenced to life in
prison instead, and after that still went on murderous rampages.
Further, of 3,258 previously convicted murderers who were released
6.6% or about 215 of them were recidivist for another murder. See -
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr83.pdf
>>> The
>>>retentionists use public safety as an excuse to justify execution. If not
>>>there would be fewer executions as so many of those on death row can be
>>>rehabilitaed
>>
>> No proof offered. Your claim fails. How come these murderers could
>> not be rehabilitated? ==
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/doublemurderers.htm
>>
>
>Is that really your best argument? I truly hope not.
>
So those innocent victims are irrelevant to you. That's your best
argument. Victims don't matter... as long as you can whine for
the lives of their murderers.
Well, all I've seen from you is denial of words in the English
language.
>>>>>> What I DON'T propose we do with children who kill... is KILL THEM!
>>>>>> We have quite enough adult serial killers and pedophile murderers
>>>>>> to keep the Justice System at work with the death penalty as it is.
>>>>>
>>>>>What you propose to do? Are you a hanging judge or an executioner?
>>>>>A murderer is a murderer. When you get selective you encourage
>>>>>discrimination and I understood that you opposed discrimination.
>>>>
>>>> Well I believe those who commit capital murder have discriminated
>>>> against their victims. Thus I simply suggest society has a right to
>>>> discriminate between those who are convicted of capital murder and
>>>> those who have not been convicted of capital murder.
>>>
>>>There is absolutely no logical flow in the paragraph you just authored.
>>>
>>
>> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>
>You were consistent there in that your present comment is equallt lacking in
>logical flow.
Keep in mind that this dialog did not begin in respect to murderers.
You are the one who changed the "logical flow" in order to spew out
your hate and rage against the U.S.
So I repeat... no proof offered. Your claim fails. Offering fatuous
and insipid excreta that are both emetic and abandon any logic
whatsoever, as you do, hardly places you in a position to criticize
me. You wouldn't know a "logical flow" if it flew up your nether
regions.
Remember the first words above? "Supreme Court limits life sentences
without parole for young criminals."
Nothing at all about the death penalty. So suck it up, loser. Now, I
don't mind demolishing crackpots like you on the subject of the U.S.
death penalty, because it keeps the juices flowing, but please don't
try that crap that you didn't change the "logical flow" of this
particular dialog.
TRANSLATION "I wish PV would stop using those 'big words.'
I have enough trouble understanding him when he dumbs it down
to my level."
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/ignorant
English isn't your mother-tongue is it?
>> to personally attack retentionists. Some abolitionists even argue that
>> we should "kill the retentionists," in their moral outrage accompanied
>> by Bible-thumping. It would add nothing to the argument to call
>> abolition "the diseased" attempt to save the lives of every murderer.
>> It only hopes to raise the level of rhetoric to incoherent screaming
>> at each other. Provide some relevant, non-Bible-thumping,
>> non-moralist, evidence that would show we are better off in
>> term of "protecting the right to life" of our citizens by not
>> executing any murderer.
>>
>
>I mentioned that you previous comment that you supported the death penalty
>was redundant as we already knew your position then you responded by posting
>an even longer one.
And yet you cannot provide the evidence I asked for, even with your
Bible-thumping.
>Curious!
>
Everything is too difficult for you to comprehend, my boy. It's
not your fault... nature just did you dirty.
>>>We do not have the to say who has the right to life.
>>
>> There is no such thing as "the right to life" in any absolute sense.
>> That's Biblical nonsense. God has not put those words up in the
>> sky for everyone to know, because God doesn't really give a shit
>> about individual lives, or even the lives of our entire species. The
>> only "right to life" that exists is such subjectively given by various
>> societies to their members. It is subjective, because it is not
>> something you can touch or feel. It is not an object that exists
>> in reality. Nor is it an _absolute_, since different societies
>> determine different views of what is that "right to life."
>
>"There is no such thing as "the right to life" in any absolute sense.That's
>Biblical nonsense"
>
>I disagree dear sir.
I don't care, "my good fellow." You cannot show in any way there is
such a thing as "the right to life," other than what various societies
grant to their citizens. If there was such a "right" murder would be
impossible. If there was such a "right" science would be able to
prove it.
> We are born so we are given the right to life. It is
>not for us to say who can keep that right to life and who can't.
You're thumping that Bible again. We are born because our
parents engaged in procreation, as all animal life does. Do you
think a cockroach has "a right to life"? Aren't all cockroaches
"born"? Why are we better than a cockroach, unless you believe
in the Bible? We are here because the universe has laws that permit
the evolution of biological life if environmental conditions are
suitable on a planet such as earth, and if a source of energy,
called the sun in our solar system, lasts long enough for biological
life to arise and evolve. We are a species of biological life... no
different than other biological life, other than we have an advanced
intelligence gained through evolution, which enables us to
scientifically examine how we are here, and philosophically wonder why
we are here. While at this stage in our evolution we have a very
rudimentary moral and ethical superego, with each of us having a
different degree of such morals and ethics. Including some who
believe it is moral and ethical to hate or even kill their fellow man
for one concocted reason or another.
As I pointed out to your buddy, mxsmanic --
The Superego is that part of the mind and development that represents
the internalized moral standards of the society and, above all, of the
parents. Lacking finding any moral standards in the parents, or the
parents being absent, creates a vacuum for moral standards, and the
superego obviously leans toward internalizing the moral standards of
peers, if having NO OTHER DIRECTION. The Superego is approximately
equivalent to what we call "conscience." "Conscience" is an emotional
response, and the lack of "conscience" is what drives many to commit
murder. Those who lack the EMOTIONAL capacity of "conscience."
Such as the Nazis lack of "conscience" in the attempted extermination
of European Jewry.
None of this argues there is such a silly thing as a "natural right to
life human beings have." It's religious gobbledygook. And it has no
place in arguments of morals and ethics... it only has a place in
various churches.
If you assert that we do have "a natural right to life," you need to
prove it. I don't need to prove what is obvious - simply because
murder is a common occurrence among human beings.
>> That being said... we are talking ONLY about the U.S. death penalty.
>> In the U.S., the "right to life" is not an absolute. The U.S.
>> constitution clearly provides for the possibility of the death
>> penalty. It does protect in the form of prohibiting "double
>> jeopardy," and it does protect in the form of prohibiting "cruel and
>> unusual punishment." But the death penalty per se is not considered
>> "cruel and unusual punishment."
>
>You don't observe cooking someone alive in a chair as cruel and unusual?
We don't use the electric chair any longer. Execution by electric
chair is not mandatory in any state in the U.S. It is only used when
the condemned demands such execution, in four states: Alabama,
Florida, South Carolina and Virginia. Those states use lethal
injection in every case except when the condemned demands the
electric chair.
> You
>don't see keeping them suspended under "due process" often for years at a
>time before you finally kill the poor indivual. Such is not better than the
>chinese water torture only over a longer duration.
Spare me your weeping for convicted murderers.
>>>That honour is
>>>strictly owned by something higher than ourselves.
>>
>> ROTFLMAO. Who would that be? I thought you said you weren't
>> religious. Now I see you thumping that Bible. Is this something
>> "it" told you in a dream... or are you a prophet uttering a revelation
>> from your "something higher than ourselves"? How come "it" never
>> told me? Are you claiming to be "special"?
>>
>
>"Who would that be?"
>
>Unknown.
>
Well how do you claim that "you know the unknown"? Are you claiming
you're omnipotent?
>"I thought you said you weren't religious. "
>
>You meant to type, "I thought you said that you're not religious. "
"weren't" is more correct... since I see you thumping the Bible right
now.
>The "thought" is past tense, my religious status is not. That aside, you are
>quite right. I am not religious.
>
LOL... But you claim you "know the unknown." Great Scott!!! What
are next week's Lotto number???
>"Now I see you thumping that Bible"
>
>
>I gave no mention to Jehovah or to any particular diety nor did a give
>reference to any particular doctrined or derivatives thereof. Therefor your
>term, "Thumping the bible" is another one of your innacurate assertions
Well then... I guess it's just the peyote you're on that's talking,
when you start raving about "knowing the unknown."
>" Should I say it?? Oh... what the hell... No proof offered. Your claim
>fails."
>
>That was based from a false premise hence moot.
TRANSLATION: "That damn PV has done it to me AGAIN!!! I'll have
to ignore the fact that I have no proof... and call it "moot," my
new favorite word, after "static," to try getting out of the holes
I keep for myself."
It's not moot.... "thumping the Bible," means basing your arguments
on religious grounds. Obviously the argument of some God-like
force that gives humans special consideration among all the beasts
and the animals, granting humans a "universal right to life," that
no other animal or beast enjoys, is based upon religious beliefs.
Since scientifically no such "human right to life exists." And if it
can't be _scientifically proven_ then it's religious hogwash to claim
it exists despite the lack of _scientific proof_. You might as well
argue the existence of the Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy.
>>> Executing someone for
>>>murder is stating that we don't stand by our own values regarding
>>>homicide.
>>>I have no stomach for such attitudes.
>>
>> No one asked you. Your personal feelings did not protect Colleen
>> Reed. She was abducted from a car wash, and tortured and raped
>> the entire night by Kenneth McDuff, who then stated that he would
>> "use her up," in murdering her with as much torture as possible.
>>
>
>"No one asked you"
>
>Irrelevent. I shall speak out regardless as have many before me and as shall
>many succeeding me.
I'm well aware that you're speaking in support of the murder of
Colleen Reed, and for the _salvation_ (hallelujah) of Kenneth McDuff.
>" Your personal feelings did not protect Colleen Reed"
>
>And neither did your death penalty!
>
That's because it wasn't used. Had it been used as originally
decided by 12 honest citizens, Colleen Reed would be alive today.
You can't blame the death penalty when the fact is not using
the death penalty (a position you support) is what resulted in
the murder of Colleen Reed, and some others. A sentence of
life (a sentence you support rather than the death penalty) is
what permitted Kenneth McDuff to murder Colleen Reed, and
some others.
>> Kenneth McDuff had already been sentenced to death prior to
>> his abducting Colleen Reed, but had his death penalty sentence
>> overturned by the Supreme Court when the Supreme Court ruled
>> that the death penalty as presently created in statutes was "cruel
>> and unusual" in Furman v. Georgia, resulting in the release from the
>> death penalty of hundreds of capital murderers. Kenneth McDuff was
>> then released and continued his spree of murders, none of which would
>> have happened had the feelings of 12 citizens been honored. See --
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_McDuff
>
>Then you put the man away in a mental institution, sir. Kenneth McDuff was
>obviously insane.
Wrong. You don't have the slightest idea of the legal and psychiatric
definition of insane. You're out of your league, "my good fellow."
>> How's it feel to have supported the murder of Colleen Reed to
>> save the life of Kenneth McDuff?
>
>We oppose the death penalty.
You and who else?
> We do not oppose incarceration of the insane.
You and who else?
> If your government released on obvious madman into a situation where he is
>going to kill again then the fault is that of your government. Do not try to
>blame us for your mistakes.
Do not try to stop me from blaming you for your mistake of protecting
the life of Kenneth McDuff, so he could murder... and murder... and
murder... some say at least 16 times after his release from a death
sentence because you opposed that death sentence.
How do you live with yourself, knowing your responsibility for the
murder of Colleen Reed??? Why don't you keep your nose out of
U.S. internal affairs? I don't mind those who complain about actions
the U.S. takes in her foreign affairs... but it's unseemly for you to
running your mouth off about what the U.S. does with her murderers.
Why not worry about the genocide of six million Jews that Europe
was responsible for?
Why not find a hobby, or watch Bambi, instead of whining for
U.S. murderers?
You've seen a little more than that. Unfortunately you were unsuccessful in
recognising it. Never mind.
>
>>>>>>> What I DON'T propose we do with children who kill... is KILL THEM!
>>>>>>> We have quite enough adult serial killers and pedophile murderers
>>>>>>> to keep the Justice System at work with the death penalty as it is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What you propose to do? Are you a hanging judge or an executioner?
>>>>>>A murderer is a murderer. When you get selective you encourage
>>>>>>discrimination and I understood that you opposed discrimination.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well I believe those who commit capital murder have discriminated
>>>>> against their victims. Thus I simply suggest society has a right to
>>>>> discriminate between those who are convicted of capital murder and
>>>>> those who have not been convicted of capital murder.
>>>>
>>>>There is absolutely no logical flow in the paragraph you just authored.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>>
>>You were consistent there in that your present comment is equallt lacking
>>in
>>logical flow.
>
>
> Keep in mind that this dialog did not begin in respect to murderers.
> You are the one who changed the "logical flow" in order to spew out
> your hate and rage against the U.S.
With my comments the converse maintained a flow. Sadly yours deviated for
too wide. Never mind. It's not important.
>
> So I repeat... no proof offered. Your claim fails. Offering fatuous
> and insipid excreta that are both emetic and abandon any logic
> whatsoever, as you do, hardly places you in a position to criticize
> me. You wouldn't know a "logical flow" if it flew up your nether
> regions.
>
And I repeat "You were consistent there in that your present comment is
equallt lacking in logical flow."
> Remember the first words above? "Supreme Court limits life sentences
> without parole for young criminals."
>
> Nothing at all about the death penalty. So suck it up, loser. Now, I
> don't mind demolishing crackpots like you on the subject of the U.S.
> death penalty, because it keeps the juices flowing, but please don't
> try that crap that you didn't change the "logical flow" of this
> particular dialog.
Self praise is no praise at all. Declaring yourself the winner does not make
you the winner. It's just another example of your sillyness. Nothing
changes. Nobody wins.
Not applicable. My comments are not open to reintepretation so any
translation is pointless, because it translates to itself.
> English isn't your mother-tongue is it?
No. but it's still better than yours.
There was no bible thumping!
>
>>Curious!
>>
> Everything is too difficult for you to comprehend, my boy.
You are not qualified to make that assertion but it is evident that your ego
won't allow you to accept that you are wrong.
>It's
> not your fault... nature just did you dirty.
Had nature "done me dirty" I would have been born as you.
>
>>>>We do not have the to say who has the right to life.
>>>
>>> There is no such thing as "the right to life" in any absolute sense.
>>> That's Biblical nonsense. God has not put those words up in the
>>> sky for everyone to know, because God doesn't really give a shit
>>> about individual lives, or even the lives of our entire species. The
>>> only "right to life" that exists is such subjectively given by various
>>> societies to their members. It is subjective, because it is not
>>> something you can touch or feel. It is not an object that exists
>>> in reality. Nor is it an _absolute_, since different societies
>>> determine different views of what is that "right to life."
>>
>>"There is no such thing as "the right to life" in any absolute
>>sense.That's
>>Biblical nonsense"
>>
>>I disagree dear sir.
>
> I don't care, "my good fellow." You cannot show in any way there is
> such a thing as "the right to life," other than what various societies
> grant to their citizens. If there was such a "right" murder would be
> impossible. If there was such a "right" science would be able to
> prove it.
"I don't care, "my good fellow."
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/knee-jerk
It's irrelevent the point whether you care or not.
>
>> We are born so we are given the right to life. It is
>>not for us to say who can keep that right to life and who can't.
>
> You're thumping that Bible again. We are born because our
> parents engaged in procreation, as all animal life does. Do you
> think a cockroach has "a right to life"? Aren't all cockroaches
> "born"? Why are we better than a cockroach, unless you believe
> in the Bible? We are here because the universe has laws that permit
> the evolution of biological life if environmental conditions are
> suitable on a planet such as earth, and if a source of energy,
> called the sun in our solar system, lasts long enough for biological
> life to arise and evolve. We are a species of biological life... no
> different than other biological life, other than we have an advanced
> intelligence gained through evolution, which enables us to
> scientifically examine how we are here, and philosophically wonder why
> we are here. While at this stage in our evolution we have a very
> rudimentary moral and ethical superego, with each of us having a
> different degree of such morals and ethics. Including some who
> believe it is moral and ethical to hate or even kill their fellow man
> for one concocted reason or another.
" You're thumping that Bible again.
Impossible. as I said, I am not religious.
"We are born because our
parents engaged in procreation, as all animal life does. Do you
think a cockroach has "a right to life"?""
The cycle of nature gave us right to life. The same cycle gave the cochroach
the right to life.
"Aren't all cockroaches "born"? "
I would hope so.
"Why are we better than a cockroach, unless you believe in the Bible?"
You believe we are better than cockroaches?
"
>We are here because the universe has laws that permit
> the evolution of biological life if environmental conditions are
> suitable on a planet such as earth, and if a source of energy,
> called the sun in our solar system, lasts long enough for biological
> life to arise and evolve. We are a species of biological life... no
> different than other biological life, other than we have an advanced
> intelligence gained through evolution, which enables us to
> scientifically examine how we are here, and philosophically wonder why
> we are here. While at this stage in our evolution we have a very
> rudimentary moral and ethical superego, with each of us having a
> different degree of such morals and ethics. Including some who
> believe it is moral and ethical to hate or even kill their fellow man
> for one concocted reason or another.
"
That is correct but we are not gods. We do not have the right to decide who
lives and who dies.
>
> As I pointed out to your buddy, mxsmanic --
>
> The Superego is that part of the mind and development that represents
> the internalized moral standards of the society and, above all, of the
> parents. Lacking finding any moral standards in the parents, or the
> parents being absent, creates a vacuum for moral standards, and the
> superego obviously leans toward internalizing the moral standards of
> peers, if having NO OTHER DIRECTION. The Superego is approximately
> equivalent to what we call "conscience." "Conscience" is an emotional
> response, and the lack of "conscience" is what drives many to commit
> murder. Those who lack the EMOTIONAL capacity of "conscience."
> Such as the Nazis lack of "conscience" in the attempted extermination
> of European Jewry.
"As I pointed out to your buddy, mxsmanic "
Curios
"> The Superego is that part of the mind and development that represents
> the internalized moral standards of the society and, above all, of the
> parents. Lacking finding any moral standards in the parents, or the
> parents being absent, creates a vacuum for moral standards, and the
> superego obviously leans toward internalizing the moral standards of
> peers, if having NO OTHER DIRECTION. The Superego is approximately
> equivalent to what we call "conscience." "Conscience" is an emotional
> response, and the lack of "conscience" is what drives many to commit
> murder. Those who lack the EMOTIONAL capacity of "conscience."
> Such as the Nazis lack of "conscience" in the attempted extermination
> of European Jewry."
Interesing comment.
>
> None of this argues there is such a silly thing as a "natural right to
> life human beings have." It's religious gobbledygook. And it has no
> place in arguments of morals and ethics... it only has a place in
> various churches.
As I said before; I am not religious. However we are born with the right to
life because we are born. We are born because whatever causes the
reproductive cycle to commence gives us that right, so the same has the
right do take it away; nothing else does.
>
> If you assert that we do have "a natural right to life," you need to
> prove it. I don't need to prove what is obvious - simply because
> murder is a common occurrence among human beings.
"If you assert that we do have "a natural right to life," you need to
> prove it."
No I don't.
"I don't need to prove what is obvious - simply because
> murder is a common occurrence among human beings"
Your need to prove is the same as mine. In other words, it doesn't exist.
>
>>> That being said... we are talking ONLY about the U.S. death penalty.
>>> In the U.S., the "right to life" is not an absolute. The U.S.
>>> constitution clearly provides for the possibility of the death
>>> penalty. It does protect in the form of prohibiting "double
>>> jeopardy," and it does protect in the form of prohibiting "cruel and
>>> unusual punishment." But the death penalty per se is not considered
>>> "cruel and unusual punishment."
>>
>>You don't observe cooking someone alive in a chair as cruel and unusual?
>
> We don't use the electric chair any longer. Execution by electric
> chair is not mandatory in any state in the U.S. It is only used when
> the condemned demands such execution, in four states: Alabama,
> Florida, South Carolina and Virginia. Those states use lethal
> injection in every case except when the condemned demands the
> electric chair.
"We don't use the electric chair any longer. Execution by electric
> chair is not mandatory in any state in the U.S."
But you still have it.
"It is only used when
> the condemned demands such execution, in four states: Alabama,
> Florida, South Carolina and Virginia. Those states use lethal
> injection in every case except when the condemned demands the
> electric chair.
"
The lethal injection was invented by your friends, the Nazis. "Action T4" it
was known as.
http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&q=Action+T4&aq=f&aqi=g2&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=6584d9987ab93617
>
>> You
>>don't see keeping them suspended under "due process" often for years at a
>>time before you finally kill the poor indivual. Such is not better than
>>the
>>chinese water torture only over a longer duration.
>
> Spare me your weeping for convicted murderers.
Why? Is your conscience bothering you? I truly doubt it.
>
>>>>That honour is
>>>>strictly owned by something higher than ourselves.
>>>
>>> ROTFLMAO. Who would that be? I thought you said you weren't
>>> religious. Now I see you thumping that Bible. Is this something
>>> "it" told you in a dream... or are you a prophet uttering a revelation
>>> from your "something higher than ourselves"? How come "it" never
>>> told me? Are you claiming to be "special"?
>>>
>>
>>"Who would that be?"
>>
>>Unknown.
>>
> Well how do you claim that "you know the unknown"? Are you claiming
> you're omnipotent?
Curious.
>
>>"I thought you said you weren't religious. "
>>
>>You meant to type, "I thought you said that you're not religious. "
>
> "weren't" is more correct... since I see you thumping the Bible right
> now.
No. "Aren't" is more correct in context. I do not thump the bible. I am not
religious..
>
>>The "thought" is past tense, my religious status is not. That aside, you
>>are
>>quite right. I am not religious.
>>
> LOL... But you claim you "know the unknown." Great Scott!!! What
> are next week's Lotto number???
I made no such claim.
>
>>"Now I see you thumping that Bible"
>>
>>
>>I gave no mention to Jehovah or to any particular diety nor did a give
>>reference to any particular doctrined or derivatives thereof. Therefor
>>your
>>term, "Thumping the bible" is another one of your innacurate assertions
>
> Well then... I guess it's just the peyote you're on that's talking,
> when you start raving about "knowing the unknown."
Your desperation appears to be growing in a logarithmic scale.
>
>>" Should I say it?? Oh... what the hell... No proof offered. Your claim
>>fails."
>>
>>That was based from a false premise hence moot.
>
> TRANSLATION:
"That was based from a false premise hence moot."
>
> It's not moot.... "thumping the Bible," means basing your arguments
> on religious grounds. Obviously the argument of some God-like
> force that gives humans special consideration among all the beasts
> and the animals, granting humans a "universal right to life," that
> no other animal or beast enjoys, is based upon religious beliefs.
> Since scientifically no such "human right to life exists." And if it
> can't be _scientifically proven_ then it's religious hogwash to claim
> it exists despite the lack of _scientific proof_. You might as well
> argue the existence of the Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy.
>
"It's not moot.... "thumping the Bible," means basing your arguments
> on religious grounds."
Incorrect. The bible is specifically implimented in the Abraham doctines,
Christianity, Catholisism, Islam, Judasim and families of said religions.
However such is not applicable for Hinduism, Buddhism, Pagan religions and
similar.
"Obviously the argument of some God-like
> force that gives humans special consideration among all the beasts
> and the animals, granting humans a "universal right to life," that
> no other animal or beast enjoys, is based upon religious beliefs.
> Since scientifically no such "human right to life exists." And if it
> can't be _scientifically proven_ then it's religious hogwash to claim
> it exists despite the lack of _scientific proof_. You might as well
> argue the existence of the Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy.
> "
If you wish to discuss theology then there are many such newgroups available
for that area. There are also many Athiesm ones but they wouldn't interest
you. You would have no'one to argue with.
>>>> Executing someone for
>>>>murder is stating that we don't stand by our own values regarding
>>>>homicide.
>>>>I have no stomach for such attitudes.
>>>
>>> No one asked you. Your personal feelings did not protect Colleen
>>> Reed. She was abducted from a car wash, and tortured and raped
>>> the entire night by Kenneth McDuff, who then stated that he would
>>> "use her up," in murdering her with as much torture as possible.
>>>
>>
>>"No one asked you"
>>
>>Irrelevent. I shall speak out regardless as have many before me and as
>>shall
>>many succeeding me.
>
> I'm well aware that you're speaking in support of the murder of
> Colleen Reed, and for the _salvation_ (hallelujah) of Kenneth McDuff.
No you are not.
>
>>" Your personal feelings did not protect Colleen Reed"
>>
>>And neither did your death penalty!
>>
> That's because it wasn't used. Had it been used as originally
> decided by 12 honest citizens, Colleen Reed would be alive today.
> You can't blame the death penalty when the fact is not using
> the death penalty (a position you support) is what resulted in
> the murder of Colleen Reed, and some others. A sentence of
> life (a sentence you support rather than the death penalty) is
> what permitted Kenneth McDuff to murder Colleen Reed, and
> some others.
"That's because it wasn't used"
Irrelevant. You death penatly does not deter. You kill one, another takes
his place. Your death penalty increases the corpse count.
>
>>> Kenneth McDuff had already been sentenced to death prior to
>>> his abducting Colleen Reed, but had his death penalty sentence
>>> overturned by the Supreme Court when the Supreme Court ruled
>>> that the death penalty as presently created in statutes was "cruel
>>> and unusual" in Furman v. Georgia, resulting in the release from the
>>> death penalty of hundreds of capital murderers. Kenneth McDuff was
>>> then released and continued his spree of murders, none of which would
>>> have happened had the feelings of 12 citizens been honored. See --
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_McDuff
>>
>>Then you put the man away in a mental institution, sir. Kenneth McDuff was
>>obviously insane.
>
> Wrong. You don't have the slightest idea of the legal and psychiatric
> definition of insane. You're out of your league, "my good fellow."
Curios. You don't have the slightest idea of what I have knowledge of, my
dear fellow and further more, it does not take a psychiatrist to know that
psyche of a serial killer is not that of a healthy mind.
"You're out of your league, "my good fellow.""
More puerile conjecture.
>
>>> How's it feel to have supported the murder of Colleen Reed to
>>> save the life of Kenneth McDuff?
>>
>>We oppose the death penalty.
>
> You and who else?
Those of us whom oppose the death penalty.
>
>> We do not oppose incarceration of the insane.
>
> You and who else?
Those of us whom oppose the death penalty.
>
>> If your government released on obvious madman into a situation where he
>> is
>>going to kill again then the fault is that of your government. Do not try
>>to
>>blame us for your mistakes.
>
> Do not try to stop me from blaming you for your mistake of protecting
> the life of Kenneth McDuff, so he could murder... and murder... and
> murder... some say at least 16 times after his release from a death
> sentence because you opposed that death sentence.
You do not have the authority to apportion blame. Your govenrment released
him.
>
> How do you live with yourself, knowing your responsibility for the
> murder of Colleen Reed??? Why don't you keep your nose out of
> U.S. internal affairs? I don't mind those who complain about actions
> the U.S. takes in her foreign affairs... but it's unseemly for you to
> running your mouth off about what the U.S. does with her murderers.
> Why not worry about the genocide of six million Jews that Europe
> was responsible for?
"How do you live with yourself, knowing your responsibility for the
> murder of Colleen Reed??? "
I have no such responsibilty. Kenneth McDuff killed her after your goverment
released him. It is evidence where that bombshell lays but your ego won't
let you see it. That is such a tragic pity.
>
> Why not find a hobby, or watch Bambi, instead of whining for
> U.S. murderers?
I have several. One of them is enjoying a good comedy. Your posts provide
that for me, dear fellow.
J
No dear fellow. I amended it, as I already told you. If you struggle to keep
up then you should go to a lower class.
>
>>No, dear fellow. The wording structure remained static.
>
> Nothing that changes has remained "static." Chee... but you remain
> incredibly paedomorphic. One might argue you are statically
> paedomorphic.
You were probably waiting for a long periodic to use that word, which
doublessly you stumbled on and had to feed you pretentious ego with it.
Puerile. With all sincerity I am convinced that you are not 78 years old.
Your mind is dull, unfocused and your arguments are childish.
>
>>It was amended with
>>a predicate but that aside, there is no harm in such a practice.
>
> It was amended with a change in subject. Changing the word "murderer"
> to "children who commit crime." That's an entirely different set of
> parameters to examine. All I did was point out that the SCOTUS
> ruling had NOTHING to do with children who commit murder. I
> doubt you even read the article itself, but found yourself locked up
> trying to defend your initial ignorance.
>
Your doubts are of no concern to me. Your mentallity is hollow and cannot
affect me. Iweep for anyone it can affect.
>
> A. Do you admit the original article had nothing to do with
> "murderers"?
> B. Do you see that your comment was offered in respect to
> "murderers"?
> Do you see that B has nothing to do... absolutely nothing to do...
> with A?
>
Do you admit that you are a child?
>>>>>And the answer to
>>>>> your present question is because we are a sentient species, and
>>>>> recognize that youth has not yet provided the full recognition of the
>>>>> consequences of one's actions. That comes through maturity. And
>>>>> if an adult has not matured enough to recognize the consequences
>>>>> of his actions, or understand the consequences of any court proceeding
>>>>> that would take place during a trial, he is considered incompetent to
>>>>> even stand trial. While I don't recommend that for children who
>>>>> commit crimes.
>>>>
>>>>Maturity is a subjective term;
>>>
>>> All things that are mental abstractions such as "maturity" are
>>> subjective.
>>>
>>
>>As I said, "Maturity is a subjective term;"
>
> Stating the obvious isn't necessary. I'm well aware of the difference
> between objective and subjective. In fact, I've been trying to teach
> your hard head the difference for about a week now. "Prejudice"
> is also a subjective term. Yet you seem terribly confused about it...
> using your buzzword "static," which you apparently think is
> some sort of aphorism, rather than vacuous nonsense.
"Prejudice" is a static "WORD".
Perhaps the use of caps will help you around your obvious learning
difficulty.
>
>>>>not the word itself but it's boundaries.
>>>
>>> Just because a word exists in the dictionary does not make it
>>> "objective." If it did then EVERYTHING would be "objective,"
>>> and the definition of "subjective" would be false. Certainly
>>> words such as "love," "anger," and "fear," exist as words in
>>> the English dictionary, but to argue they are "objective" is
>>> as silly as arguing that the moon is made of cheese.
>>> If you can't touch it as an "object" then it is not "objective." The
>>> word "soul," exists in the English dictionary, but you'd look
>>> like a fool to claim the "soul" has an "objective" existence,
>>> because the word "soul" exists in an English dictionary.
>>> The dictionary itself has an "objective" existence, but the
>>> words inside only describe things that are either "objective"
>>> and have a physical existence which no one can deny or
>>> "subjective" mental abstractions, depending upon how one
>>> feels about something using that mental abstraction.
>>
>>Dictionary definitions have a purpose for a reason and they serve that
>>purpose well until people like you think you can redefine them.
>>
> You mean like you do in this definition --
> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/black
> "3. a. Of or belonging to a racial group having brown to black
> skin.
> b. Of or belonging to an American ethnic group descended from
> African peoples having dark skin.
>
I'm familiar with the dictionary definition, dear boy. However, unlike you,
if i do not approve of a definition I simply choose not to use it. It's your
arrogance that pushes to to actually rewrite the word.
> In fact, I do not redefine definitions. I use them as weapons to
> crush idiots like you, who have little knowledge of the English
> language, and thus distort words in a biased effort to twist to your
> own sick agenda.
"In fact, I do not redefine definitions."
You repeatidly and deliberately misuse dictionary definition regardless of
that you have cobnsulted a dictionary but you change them anyway.
"I use them as weapons to crush idiots like you, who have little knowledge
of the English language"
Then you hold the sword by the blade sir and cut of your own fingers in the
attempt. Your practice is done because you cannot win your argument and thus
your resort to xenophobia but it backfired on you where I am concerned as I
suspect it has with many before me.
>
Curious. You misintepret my last passage to infer that I was calling the
death penatly, murder when it was obvious that the murder is murder
context was remarking on the irrelevence of the age of the killer and your
subsequent over reactive response suggests that perhaps that the death
penalty being refered to as murder has crossed your mind too. Do you doubt
your convictions, sir?
> You're not happy merely assassinating the English language, you
> want to crucify it before murdering it.
Another one of your puerile response.
>
>>>>> However; we totally set aside any trial for such an adult, until or if
>>>>> they ever are considered competent to stand trial recognizing the
>>>>> consequence of their past actions. So why should we punish a child as
>>>>> an adult considering the psychological fact that a child has not
>>>>> matured to the same extent as an adult who does recognize the
>>>>> consequences of his actions?
>>>>
>>>>If a person deliberatly kills another then it is murder.
>>>
>>> Wrong. If a person deliberately kills another then it is
>>> considered as "homicide," unless certain other conditions
>>> exist. See --
>>> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/homicide
>>> One can deliberately kill another in self-defense. In which
>>> case it is "justifiable homicide," if the justice system determines
>>> such a killing was "justified in self-defense." There are many
>>> other situations in which society determines that deliberately
>>> killing another is "justifiable homicide." See --
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justifiable_homicide
>>
>>Self defense is catagorized as manslaugher.
>
> Wrong again. Manslaughter is defined as "Illegal killing." A true
> self-defense killing after examination of it being true self-defense
> by the district prosecutor is not an "illegal killing." See --
> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/manslaughter
> Quote -- "Manslaughter: The unlawful killing of one human by
> another without express or implied intent to do injury."
>
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-knee-jerk-reaction.htm
You kill someone in self defense in Britian then your conviction will read
that of masnlaughter.
> You really are an amateur when it comes to the law.
By that, you mean that I do not practice law in any professional sense. That
is correct but that is beside the point. The law differs depending on what
country you reside in. I do not know american law and you so evidently do
not know British law. I am quite sure that the laws on plagiarism and citing
are similar in both countries. Are you unfamilier with these laws?
>
>>Homicide is the killing of one person by another
>>
>>"
>>hom�i�cide (hm-sd, hm-) KEY
>>
>>NOUN:
>>
>> 1.. The killing of one person by another.
>> 2.. A person who kills another person.
>>"
>>
>>Cite: education.yahoo.com
>>http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/homicide
>>Date accessed: 23rd may 2010
>>
>>There is no mention there to the deliberation of the killing.
>
> That's what I said, you moron. Homicide does not necessarily
> involve deliberation. But it can. Deliberation under the law
> is a very complex issue. There can be deliberation in homicide,
> and manslaughter, and murder. While there be a lack of
> deliberation in homicide and manslaughter. Murder must show
> deliberation. Why is this so hard for you to grasp??? Is the
> retention of facts really that difficult for you.
"That's what I said, you moron"
So did I, you imbecile.
"Homicide does not necessarily
> involve deliberation. But it can. Deliberation under the law
> is a very complex issue. There can be deliberation in homicide,
> and manslaughter, and murder. While there be a lack of
> deliberation in homicide and manslaughter. Murder must show
> deliberation. Why is this so hard for you to grasp??? Is the
> retention of facts really that difficult for you.
You seem to spend a lot of time answering questions that nobody asked them
reprimanding them for not knowing the answer and this is without the
courtesy of bothering to find out if they do know the answer. Puerile
>
> There is no mention of homicide being "legal" or "illegal." The only
> way that manslaughter and homicide can be considered synonyms is
> if one prefaces the word "homicide," with the word "illegal."
> "illegal homicide" can be either manslaughter or murder. "legal
> homicide," is considered justifiable homicide, and it includes the
> legal death penalty, killing in clear self-defense, and various other
> cases in which society determines the killing was necessary, such as a
> sniper killing a terrorist who has taken hostages and threatens to
> murder them.
>
> Homicide is the ONLY term that can be used to describe a legal
> killing. And it usually needs an adjective to state whether it was
> "legal" or "illegal." But lacking that adjective it is considered
> "legal" because it lacks the definition of "illegal."
For one that redefines so many terms to suit yourself, your hipocrisy is
nothing short of ironic.
>
>>> While manslaughter is "The unlawful killing of one human by another
>>> without express or implied intent to do injury." See --
>>> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/manslaughter
>>> This constitutes an "unlawful killing," a subset of "homicide."
>>> And this crime holds the difference in mens rea... the mind of the
>>> person having killed another.. between murder. In manslaughter,
>>> the killer of another, while having killed unlawfully, does not hold
>>> the state of mind considered "malice aforethought." While the killing
>>> would be deliberate, but not "thought out beforehand." Such a
>>> killing would usually be a homicide caused by drunken driving.
>>> No intention to kill aforethought.
>>>
>>> Finally, a person who deliberately kills another with both mens rea
>>> (a guilty mind), and actus reus (a guilty act - one acted upon
>>> voluntarily) , could be prosecuted for murder (in various degrees)
>>> if there was an element of deliberation, and malice aforethought
>>> before committing that murder. Planning to do it... is an element
>>> essential in trying to convict a person of murder. Voluntary and
>>> deliberate are also essential elements of the crime of murder.
>>
>>This is moot and does not support your argument.
>>
> TRANSLATION "This is moot and does not support your argument.."
>
> I'll bet you didn't have any idea of what mens rea and actus reus even
> means.
"Any idea"?
Yes I do.I'll bet you don't know what bayes theorum, linear regression mean,
and I suspect you do not know the magic number in the plume encryption
algorythm. Most of these can be looked up in google.
You can find this at http://www.google.com. I can show you some examples if
you like. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actus_reus ,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_rea
Now you can look them up yourself instead of having me do you work for you.
>
>>>
>>>>The age of the
>>>>criminal makes the crime any less real.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Errr... what are you trying to say??? The age of the criminal DOES
>>> NOT make the crime any less real.
>>
>>Yes.
>
> That isn't what you wrote, stupid. I was correcting your comment.
I know, stupid. You did not correct the comment, you copied it and corrected
the copy.
>
>
>>>>> In any case, the criminal justice system is not based 100% on
>>>>> punishment, but on public safety, and rehabilitation as well, and a
>>>>> child has a much greater capacity to be possibly rehabilitated then
>>>>> does a hardened adult life-time criminal.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The death penalty is purly for public revenge and nothing more.
>>>
>>> Wrong. Every criminal statute in the U.S. qualifies the death penalty
>>> as an instrument of public safety, where it exists in criminal
>>> statutes. That is the bedrock purpose of a criminal justice system,
>>> other than those such as Islamic Sharia. Punishment is simply
>>> considers a means to create better public safety. The death penalty
>>> is simply another punishment in the U.S. criminal justice system.
>>>
>>
>>Nonsence.
>
> No proof offered your claim fails. BTW -- your answer is "nonsense."
Cite please.
>
>> If public safety were the purpose of the death penalty then you
>>would only execute the prisoners who could not be contained and you would
>>execute anyone who displays sociopathic tendancies regardless of whether
>>they commited such a crime or not.
>
> No proof offered. Your claim fails. If we had a perfect justice
> system we would not convict the innocent, and we would never
> permit an innocent to die in prison. And yet, both of those happen
> rather routinely. While there is no evidence that an innocent has
> been executed since the death penalty was reinstated 30 years ago,
> in Gregg v. Georgia. We accept the fact that we will make mistakes
> in the criminal justice system because it is impossible to be
> absolutely sure of guilt. That is why we have the standard of "beyond
> a reasonable doubt." If we had no standard at all, or a standard
> which demanded absolute proof of guilt who could convict no one.
> And the guilty would laugh in our face and continue their murderous
> rampage.
>
"No proof offered. Your claim fails."
Cite Please.
" If we had a perfect justice
> system we would not convict the innocent, and we would never
> permit an innocent to die in prison.
You do not have a perfect justice system.
"And yet, both of those happen
> rather routinely. While there is no evidence that an innocent has
> been executed since the death penalty was reinstated 30 years ago,
> in Gregg v. Georgia. We accept the fact that we will make mistakes
> in the criminal justice system because it is impossible to be
> absolutely sure of guilt. That is why we have the standard of "beyond
> a reasonable doubt." If we had no standard at all, or a standard
> which demanded absolute proof of guilt who could convict no one.
> And the guilty would laugh in our face and continue their murderous
> rampage.
"
You said it yourself, " If we had a perfect justice system". You then
accept that you do not? An imperfect justice system should not include the
death penalty and a perfect justice system would not include the death
penalty.
>>You can deceive yourself if you desire
>>with your "reason for the death penalty being exclusively public safety"
>>nonsense if you choose but you cannot deceive me with it. Your death
>>penalty
>>is to satisfy the public's lust for blood.
>
> You're the one deceiving yourself. I have proof. See --
> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/doublemurderers.htm
> Here are just a few of the murderers who appear well qualified for
> the death penalty before they managed to be sentenced to life in
> prison instead, and after that still went on murderous rampages.
> Further, of 3,258 previously convicted murderers who were released
> 6.6% or about 215 of them were recidivist for another murder. See -
> http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr83.pdf
You people can't get anything right can you? You either pop them or let them
go.
>
>>>> The
>>>>retentionists use public safety as an excuse to justify execution. If
>>>>not
>>>>there would be fewer executions as so many of those on death row can be
>>>>rehabilitaed
>>>
>>> No proof offered. Your claim fails. How come these murderers could
>>> not be rehabilitated? ==
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/doublemurderers.htm
>>>
>>
>>Is that really your best argument? I truly hope not.
>>
>
> So those innocent victims are irrelevant to you. That's your best
> argument. Victims don't matter... as long as you can whine for
> the lives of their murderers.
Your arguments lack logical flow.
J
Once again there is no difference between "amending it" and "changing
it," and "rewording it." Do try to follow along, "My dear nitwit."
>>>No, dear fellow. The wording structure remained static.
>>
>> Nothing that changes has remained "static." Chee... but you remain
>> incredibly paedomorphic. One might argue you are statically
>> paedomorphic.
>
>You were probably waiting for a long periodic to use that word, which
>doublessly you stumbled on and had to feed you pretentious ego with it.
Actually you will find I've used it about 63 times in my posting
history to describe those who act just as you do.
>Puerile. With all sincerity I am convinced that you are not 78 years old.
>Your mind is dull, unfocused and your arguments are childish.
I suspect in real life you are a rather lonely 17-year-old Dutch boy,
who is a virgin, afraid of the opposite sex, pimply and overweight,
has no friends, lacks even moderate athletic abilities, is considered
weird by his schoolmates, lives on junk food, spends an
excessive amount of time surfing porn and White Power sites,
and is so overly-mothered it's creepy.
I suspect you do average in school since you don't appear to be
retarded to me, but you certainly have deep psychological issues, and
an inability to relate to others when speaking in your mother-tongue,
thus you struggle along making mistake after mistake in the English
language, boring us in AADP, showing a political philosophy based upon
a belief in your "Aryan superiority," that you've never "seen a Black
person," and a refusal to accept that the extermination of six million
Jews in the 20th Century actually happened. In addition to arguing
that you do remember "the Crusades," "WW II," and "the Greeks." Just
what do you remember about the Greeks? Try to impress me with your
knowledge of Aeschylus. Do you remember even one of his plays?
Can you name even one of his plays? Do you remember what Crusade
was led by Richard the Lionheart? No fair using Google now!!
However, I can prove my creds. As I've had to do more than once
when confronted with an immature uneducated youth. See -
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/birth_certificate.jpg
Born Feb 1, 1932.
My University of Maryland Bachelor's degree. Magna Cum Laude --
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Maryland.jpg
My Boston University Master's degree
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Boston.jpg
My Boston University Master's degree transcript. All A's, 1 B.
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/Transcript.jpg
My Military Retirement Certificate after 20 years in the U.S. Military
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Retirement.jpg
I have blocked out various personal information such as
my Social Security Number.
Now let's see YOUR proof, if you're not afraid.
*death silence*
>>>It was amended with
>>>a predicate but that aside, there is no harm in such a practice.
>>
>> It was amended with a change in subject. Changing the word "murderer"
>> to "children who commit crime." That's an entirely different set of
>> parameters to examine. All I did was point out that the SCOTUS
>> ruling had NOTHING to do with children who commit murder. I
>> doubt you even read the article itself, but found yourself locked up
>> trying to defend your initial ignorance.
>>
>Your doubts are of no concern to me. Your mentallity is hollow and cannot
>affect me. Iweep for anyone it can affect.
It you think the whining of a 17-year-old mother's boy bothers me
you're sadly mistaken, punk.
>> A. Do you admit the original article had nothing to do with
>> "murderers"?
>> B. Do you see that your comment was offered in respect to
>> "murderers"?
>> Do you see that B has nothing to do... absolutely nothing to do...
>> with A?
>>
>
>Do you admit that you are a child?
TRANSLATION "That damn PV has done it to me again. Even my
pitiful attempts at insults can't hide the fact that he has demolished
every single one of my argument."
But I asked you first, and logically one cannot answer a question with
a question.
>>>>>>And the answer to
>>>>>> your present question is because we are a sentient species, and
>>>>>> recognize that youth has not yet provided the full recognition of the
>>>>>> consequences of one's actions. That comes through maturity. And
>>>>>> if an adult has not matured enough to recognize the consequences
>>>>>> of his actions, or understand the consequences of any court proceeding
>>>>>> that would take place during a trial, he is considered incompetent to
>>>>>> even stand trial. While I don't recommend that for children who
>>>>>> commit crimes.
>>>>>
>>>>>Maturity is a subjective term;
>>>>
>>>> All things that are mental abstractions such as "maturity" are
>>>> subjective.
>>>>
>>>
>>>As I said, "Maturity is a subjective term;"
>>
>> Stating the obvious isn't necessary. I'm well aware of the difference
>> between objective and subjective. In fact, I've been trying to teach
>> your hard head the difference for about a week now. "Prejudice"
>> is also a subjective term. Yet you seem terribly confused about it...
>> using your buzzword "static," which you apparently think is
>> some sort of aphorism, rather than vacuous nonsense.
>
>"Prejudice" is a static "WORD".
There is no such thing. The only "static" that can exist in a word
is the static of random and garbed meaningless noise. All your
comments contain a great number of _static words_.
>Perhaps the use of caps will help you around your obvious learning
>difficulty.
You can't prove your silly argument. How long has it been since
you were weaned? Answer the question, without using a question.
Bet you can't do it.
If you were you would understand the definition of "Black." You
tend to ignore what you don't want to see. Like you ignore
the extermination of six million Jews. What kind of sick infantile
weirdo are you?
> However, unlike you,
>if i do not approve of a definition I simply choose not to use it.
ROTFLMAO. Talk about sophistry. Then you admit you are an insolent,
self-centered childish brat, who accepts only what he wants to accept,
while discarding definitions he doesn't like as if they do not
exist... like he insists the Holocaust did not exist... and claiming
he's never _seen a Black_.
>It's your
>arrogance that pushes to to actually rewrite the word.
You're the one having rewritten the word to suit your own childish
ego, while having absolutely no proof of your argument. The
only use of "static" in describing any word is "electrical or acoustic
activity that can disturb communication." And you try that
with just about every word you offer. Words either convey the
meaning of an "object," thus "objective,' or they convey the
meaning of a "mental abstraction," thus "subjective."
>> In fact, I do not redefine definitions. I use them as weapons to
>> crush idiots like you, who have little knowledge of the English
>> language, and thus distort words in a biased effort to twist to your
>> own sick agenda.
>
>"In fact, I do not redefine definitions."
>You repeatidly and deliberately misuse dictionary definition regardless of
>that you have cobnsulted a dictionary but you change them anyway.
I put the definitions up... and you simply ignore them as if they do
not exist. How can I possibly deal with someone who speaks gibberish,
and insists the English language is made as he desires to make it, not
as it actually exists?
>"I use them as weapons to crush idiots like you, who have little knowledge
>of the English language"
>
>Then you hold the sword by the blade sir and cut of your own fingers in the
>attempt. Your practice is done because you cannot win your argument and thus
>your resort to xenophobia but it backfired on you where I am concerned as I
>suspect it has with many before me.
>
ROTFLMAO. You're sick, son. Ask your mommy to make an appointment
with the nearest psychiatrist. Plus look up the definition of
"xenophobia," since it has nothing to do with this argument. In point
of fact you suffer from eisoptrophobia.... A fear of examining your
own inner hate and rage for one so young, in fearing to look into
mirrors, and see yourself as others see you.
Clearly just one psychiatrist would not be enough in your case. You're
a case for a textbook to be written about nothing but your mental
aberrations. You need an entire wing at the best psychiatric hospital
in Vienna, Austria, accompanied by an around the clock team of the
best psychiatric minds in the world examining nothing but your case.
So you support the execution of children who commit murder. How
very primitive of you!!! But calling the death penalty "murder," is a
common argument among the lunatic fringe of abolition. I generally
expect to see it from that lunatic fringe thus I expected to see it
from you.
>> You're not happy merely assassinating the English language, you
>> want to crucify it before murdering it.
>
>Another one of your puerile response.
Another one of your mindless drivel responses. Is "puerile" a
new word you've discovered?
How very primitive, savage and uncivilized... An Englishman cannot
legally kill someone in self-defense when they intend to murder the
Englishman, according to you!!! I guess they just have to
apologize to their murderer for _being in the way_, because they
are on their way to prison if they dare to defend themselves with
lethal force.
Obviously -- IF YOU ARE CONVICTED you have committed a
crime. Thus that is not "homicide." Being convicted of a crime
associated with homicide automatically makes it at least manslaughter.
No indictment for a crime reads "homicide." It is a medical
term, not a legal term referring to the way a person has died. He
has been killed by another person, while whether it was legal or not,
is an entirely different can of worms. See --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide
Quote -- "Homicide is not always an illegal act."
Manslaughter, however, is a crime... Homicide is NOT a crime,
unless it is determined that a crime was committed. Self-defense
is not a crime, and no killing that is determined by the state
prosecutor as self-defense is a crime.
Let me recap for you. A death occurs... a doctor signs the death
certificate in most cases of natural death, and such deaths do not
require an autopsy. However, if the death is obviously caused by
another human, or a suspicion arises in respect to that death, an
autopsy or forensic examination on site is performed, stating the
cause of death. At that point the state coroner, or his/her
representative determines that it was a killing, and not from
natural causes. This now becomes a "homicide" -- yet whether
it was a crime or not is still not satisfied.
But at this point it is turned over to the "Homicide detectives," in
the district where the homicide occurred. They investigate the
circumstances of that homicide, and report their findings to the
district attorney. If the district attorney decides that the killing
was justified and in self-defense, he informs the homicide detectives
that the case is closed, and the district attorney does not seek an
indictment. Cases in which no suspect or killer is determined
are consider "cold cases," after a certain amount of time.
Should the district attorney believe the killing was not legal,
and he has a suspect he wishes to charge, he will seek a "true
bill" from a grand jury, that permits him to take the accused to
trial. A grand jury does not determine guilt or innocence and
its function is quite different than a trial. It determines only
that a crime has been committed (along with some other
functions that have nothing to do with this argument). At this
point the Grand Jury may decide that the killing was in self-defense,
even if the district attorney insisted it was not. If they do, they
return a "no-bill," in which the district attorney is barred from
seeking a trial. Once a grand jury does return a "true bill," the
homicide is considered a crime... either manslaughter or murder, in
various degrees, depending upon the circumstances and what the
district attorney decides to seek at trial.
>> You really are an amateur when it comes to the law.
>
>By that, you mean that I do not practice law in any professional sense.
No... it means you don't know shit about the law. <full stop>
> That
>is correct but that is beside the point. The law differs depending on what
>country you reside in. I do not know american law and you so evidently do
>not know British law. I am quite sure that the laws on plagiarism and citing
>are similar in both countries. Are you unfamilier with these laws?
LOL... You really need to grow up, kid. Are you familiar with
Nihilism? You certainly use it to deny the existence of things that
you either fear or hate or are ignorant about. Such as denial of
the Holocaust.. denial of knowing what a "Black person" is...
denial of the English language when it suits you.... denial
of your psychological problems... etc... etc... etc...
>>
>>>Homicide is the killing of one person by another
>>>
>>>"
>>>hom·i·cide (hm-sd, hm-) KEY
>>>
>>>NOUN:
>>>
>>> 1.. The killing of one person by another.
>>> 2.. A person who kills another person.
>>>"
>>>
>>>Cite: education.yahoo.com
>>>http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/homicide
>>>Date accessed: 23rd may 2010
>>>
>>>There is no mention there to the deliberation of the killing.
>>
>> That's what I said, you moron. Homicide does not necessarily
>> involve deliberation. But it can. Deliberation under the law
>> is a very complex issue. There can be deliberation in homicide,
>> and manslaughter, and murder. While there can be a lack of
>> deliberation in homicide and manslaughter. Murder must show
>> deliberation. Why is this so hard for you to grasp??? Is the
>> retention of facts really that difficult for you.
>
>"That's what I said, you moron"
>
>So did I, you imbecile.
No you didn't, you moron. In fact, you only need to look above,
to see your words which began this explanation. Your words were --
"If a person deliberatly (sic) kills another then it is murder."
That's what started me explaining WHY it is NOT always murder if a
person deliberately kills another. In fact, I suspect that there are
more cases of "a person deliberately killing another" that are
classified other than "murder," than legal murder. That's why
I had to carefully explain "deliberation" to you... since you had
no idea that a person could "deliberately" kill another legally.
>>"Homicide does not necessarily
>> involve deliberation. But it can. Deliberation under the law
>> is a very complex issue. There can be deliberation in homicide,
>> and manslaughter, and murder. While there be a lack of
>> deliberation in homicide and manslaughter. Murder must show
>> deliberation. Why is this so hard for you to grasp??? Is the
>> retention of facts really that difficult for you.
>
>You seem to spend a lot of time answering questions that nobody asked them
>reprimanding them for not knowing the answer and this is without the
>courtesy of bothering to find out if they do know the answer. Puerile
Heh... tough shit, kid. You're the ignoramus who insisted "If a
person deliberatly (sic) kills another then it is murder."
>> There is no mention of homicide being "legal" or "illegal." The only
>> way that manslaughter and homicide can be considered synonyms is
>> if one prefaces the word "homicide," with the word "illegal."
>> "illegal homicide" can be either manslaughter or murder. "legal
>> homicide," is considered justifiable homicide, and it includes the
>> legal death penalty, killing in clear self-defense, and various other
>> cases in which society determines the killing was necessary, such as a
>> sniper killing a terrorist who has taken hostages and threatens to
>> murder them.
>>
>> Homicide is the ONLY term that can be used to describe a legal
>> killing. And it usually needs an adjective to state whether it was
>> "legal" or "illegal." But lacking that adjective it is considered
>> "legal" because it lacks the definition of "illegal."
>
>For one that redefines so many terms to suit yourself, your hipocrisy is
>nothing short of ironic.
You're the only one "redefining" terms, such as calling a word
"static." And claiming that "If a person deliberatly (sic) kills
another then it is murder."
>>>> While manslaughter is "The unlawful killing of one human by another
My boy, I was solving differential equations before you were born.
Probably before your parents were born. And it's "algorithms." I
was working with slide rules, rather than calculators, before you were
born. I could eat you up and spit you out.
Nor do I have to consult wikipedia to know what mens rea and actus
reus mean. But obviously you had to look it up.
>>>>>The age of the
>>>>>criminal makes the crime any less real.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Errr... what are you trying to say??? The age of the criminal DOES
>>>> NOT make the crime any less real.
>>>
>>>Yes.
>>
>> That isn't what you wrote, stupid. I was correcting your comment.
>
>I know, stupid. You did not correct the comment, you copied it and corrected
>the copy.
Right... thanks for agreeing with me. I was correcting your comment.
>>
>>
>>>>>> In any case, the criminal justice system is not based 100% on
>>>>>> punishment, but on public safety, and rehabilitation as well, and a
>>>>>> child has a much greater capacity to be possibly rehabilitated then
>>>>>> does a hardened adult life-time criminal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The death penalty is purly for public revenge and nothing more.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong. Every criminal statute in the U.S. qualifies the death penalty
>>>> as an instrument of public safety, where it exists in criminal
>>>> statutes. That is the bedrock purpose of a criminal justice system,
>>>> other than those such as Islamic Sharia. Punishment is simply
>>>> considers a means to create better public safety. The death penalty
>>>> is simply another punishment in the U.S. criminal justice system.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Nonsence.
>>
>> No proof offered your claim fails. BTW -- your answer is "nonsense."
>
>Cite please.
Sure. See --
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/nonsense
"Nonsense" -- "Words or signs having no intelligible meaning."
>>> If public safety were the purpose of the death penalty then you
>>>would only execute the prisoners who could not be contained and you would
>>>execute anyone who displays sociopathic tendancies regardless of whether
>>>they commited such a crime or not.
>>
>> No proof offered. Your claim fails. If we had a perfect justice
>> system we would not convict the innocent, and we would never
>> permit an innocent to die in prison. And yet, both of those happen
>> rather routinely. While there is no evidence that an innocent has
>> been executed since the death penalty was reinstated 30 years ago,
>> in Gregg v. Georgia. We accept the fact that we will make mistakes
>> in the criminal justice system because it is impossible to be
>> absolutely sure of guilt. That is why we have the standard of "beyond
>> a reasonable doubt." If we had no standard at all, or a standard
>> which demanded absolute proof of guilt who could convict no one.
>> And the guilty would laugh in our face and continue their murderous
>> rampage.
>>
>
>"No proof offered. Your claim fails."
>
>Cite Please.
No problem. See --
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jul/27/usa.ewenmacaskill
The FBI framed four innocent men... two of them died in prison.
Yet in more than 30 years, there is no proof of an innocent having
been executed. Apparently you don't care about the innocent if
they die in prison... you just object to the death penalty because
you're a Bible-thumper.
>" If we had a perfect justice
>> system we would not convict the innocent, and we would never
>> permit an innocent to die in prison.
>
>You do not have a perfect justice system.
That's because there is no such thing as "a perfect justice system."
>>"And yet, both of those happen
>> rather routinely. While there is no evidence that an innocent has
>> been executed since the death penalty was reinstated 30 years ago,
>> in Gregg v. Georgia. We accept the fact that we will make mistakes
>> in the criminal justice system because it is impossible to be
>> absolutely sure of guilt. That is why we have the standard of "beyond
>> a reasonable doubt." If we had no standard at all, or a standard
>> which demanded absolute proof of guilt who could convict no one.
>> And the guilty would laugh in our face and continue their murderous
>> rampage.
>"
>
>You said it yourself, " If we had a perfect justice system". You then
>accept that you do not? An imperfect justice system should not include the
>death penalty
Why not? You accept that the innocent die in prison... so what's the
difference in accepting a death penalty that is mathematically
impossible to be absolutely perfect? If you wish to stop every
innocent from ever dying in prison you have to argue abolishing
the justice system... not the death penalty... which has so far
provided no evidence of an innocent being executed.. while
innocents die every day in prison, and you don't care about THEM!
> and a perfect justice system would not include the death
>penalty.
Once again arguing from a false premise... there is no such thing
as "a perfect justice system." Innocents are convicted probably
every day in some court somewhere in the U.S. Shall we let
all the criminals remain free because of the chance of an innocent
dying in prison? Or do you argue abolish the U.S. criminal
justice system and let the criminals continue on their way.
>>>You can deceive yourself if you desire
>>>with your "reason for the death penalty being exclusively public safety"
>>>nonsense if you choose but you cannot deceive me with it. Your death
>>>penalty
>>>is to satisfy the public's lust for blood.
>>
>> You're the one deceiving yourself. I have proof. See --
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/doublemurderers.htm
>> Here are just a few of the murderers who appear well qualified for
>> the death penalty before they managed to be sentenced to life in
>> prison instead, and after that still went on murderous rampages.
>> Further, of 3,258 previously convicted murderers who were released
>> 6.6% or about 215 of them were recidivist for another murder. See -
>> http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr83.pdf
>
>You people can't get anything right can you? You either pop them or let them
>go.
Nonetheless... they also kill fellow prisoners and guards. Are you
claiming that fellow prisoners and guards who are murdered by
murderers are _expendable_ to protect the lives of those who murder
them?
>>
>>>>> The retentionists use public safety as an excuse to justify execution. If
>>>>>not there would be fewer executions as so many of those on death row can be
>>>>>rehabilitaed
>>>>
>>>> No proof offered. Your claim fails. How come these murderers could
>>>> not be rehabilitated? ==
>>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/doublemurderers.htm
>>>>
>>>
>>>Is that really your best argument? I truly hope not.
>>>
>>
>> So those innocent victims are irrelevant to you. That's your best
>> argument. Victims don't matter... as long as you can whine for
>> the lives of their murderers.
>
>Your arguments lack logical flow.
TRANSLATION: "That fucking PV was right on point... and really stuck
it to me that time."
Don't tell me what I've seen and not seen. After all you claim
because you didn't see the Holocaust that it must not have happened.
>>>>>>>> What I DON'T propose we do with children who kill... is KILL THEM!
>>>>>>>> We have quite enough adult serial killers and pedophile murderers
>>>>>>>> to keep the Justice System at work with the death penalty as it is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What you propose to do? Are you a hanging judge or an executioner?
>>>>>>>A murderer is a murderer. When you get selective you encourage
>>>>>>>discrimination and I understood that you opposed discrimination.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well I believe those who commit capital murder have discriminated
>>>>>> against their victims. Thus I simply suggest society has a right to
>>>>>> discriminate between those who are convicted of capital murder and
>>>>>> those who have not been convicted of capital murder.
>>>>>
>>>>>There is absolutely no logical flow in the paragraph you just authored.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>>>
>>>You were consistent there in that your present comment is equallt lacking
>>>in logical flow.
>>
>>
>> Keep in mind that this dialog did not begin in respect to murderers.
>> You are the one who changed the "logical flow" in order to spew out
>> your hate and rage against the U.S.
>
>With my comments the converse maintained a flow. Sadly yours deviated for
>too wide. Never mind. It's not important.
Your comment did not maintain a flow... it turned the argument 180
degrees away for the original comment. Children who commit crimes
are NOT considered murderers unless they comment murder with the
attachment of mens rea, actus reus, and with extreme malice. In no
case was the thread about children who murder.
>> So I repeat... no proof offered. Your claim fails. Offering fatuous
>> and insipid excreta that are both emetic and abandon any logic
>> whatsoever, as you do, hardly places you in a position to criticize
>> me. You wouldn't know a "logical flow" if it flew up your nether
>> regions.
>>
>
>And I repeat "You were consistent there in that your present comment is
>equallt lacking in logical flow."
>
You can repeat it forever, but it will be no more true after repeating
it for an eternity than it is not true at this moment. In fact, it's
fairly obvious that your comment is just meaningless gobbledygook, and
I doubt whether you really know what it's supposed to mean.
Now answer me one question -- What is your mother-tongue???
Since it's now obvious that it is not English.
>
>> Remember the first words above? "Supreme Court limits life sentences
>> without parole for young criminals."
>>
>> Nothing at all about the death penalty. So suck it up, loser. Now, I
>> don't mind demolishing crackpots like you on the subject of the U.S.
>> death penalty, because it keeps the juices flowing, but please don't
>> try that crap that you didn't change the "logical flow" of this
>> particular dialog.
>
>Self praise is no praise at all. Declaring yourself the winner does not make
>you the winner. It's just another example of your sillyness. Nothing
>changes. Nobody wins.
Spoken like the true loser you are.
>> TRANSLATION "I wish PV would stop using those 'big words.'
>>I have enough trouble understanding him when he dumbs it down
>> to my level."
>>
>> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/ignorant
>
>
>Not applicable. My comments are not open to reintepretation so any
>translation is pointless, because it translates to itself.
Look like I have to reinsert my comments since you have this rather
sly and duplicitous nature of clipping them.
>> English isn't your mother-tongue is it?
>
>No. but it's still better than yours.
>
Gee... who was it that said "self-praise is no praise at all"? Oh,
wait... that was you just about two paragraphs back.
Bet you're Dutch, with a dingleberry hanging from your ass because
of your unhygienic paedomorphic habits. You're certainly
not Italian... I am almost mother-tongue fluent in Italian having
learned most of it before I was 14, and then taking it as my
minor in college. You're not French... my wife is mother-tongue
French, born and raised in Paris... so I can do very well in
the French spoken language, and good enough in the written
language. You're not German... I spent 20 years in Germany,
and can keep up a fairly good conversation, because people
tend to overlook grammatical mistakes in respect to "der" "die"
"das" gender notation and case endings when speaking, although
my written German could use a lot of work, for which I do not
have time, and no longer have the drive I once had. I don't think
you're Spanish or Portuguese. Nor from the former East bloc.
And since you mention the U.K., but English is not your mother-tongue,
that only leaves the Netherlands.
So I suspect that in real life you are a rather lonely 17-year-old
Dutch boy, who is a virgin, afraid of the opposite sex, pimply and
overweight, has no friends, lacks even moderate athletic abilities, is
considered weird by his schoolmates, lives on junk food, spends an
excessive amount of time surfing porn and White Power sites,
and is so overly-mothered it's creepy.
I suspect you do average work in school since you don't appear to
be retarded to me, but you certainly have deep psychological issues,
and an inability to relate to others when speaking in your
mother-tongue, thus you struggle along making mistake after mistake in
the English language, boring us in AADP, showing a political
philosophy based upon a belief in your "Aryan superiority," that
you've never "seen a Black person," and a refusal to accept that the
extermination of six million Jews in the 20th Century actually
happened. In addition to arguing that you do remember "the Crusades,"
"WW II," and "the Greeks." Just what do you remember about the
Greeks? Try to impress me with your knowledge of Aeschylus. Do you
remember even one of his plays? Can you name even one of his plays? Do
you remember what Crusade was led by Richard the Lionheart? No fair
using Google now!!
However, I can prove my creds. As I've had to do more than once
when confronted with an immature uneducated youth. See -
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/birth_certificate.jpg
Born Feb 1, 1932.
My University of Maryland Bachelor's degree. Magna Cum Laude --
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Maryland.jpg
My Boston University Master's degree
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Boston.jpg
My Boston University Master's degree transcript. All A's, 1 B.
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/Transcript.jpg
My Military Retirement Certificate after 20 years in the U.S. Military
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Retirement.jpg
I have blocked out various personal information such as
my Social Security Number.
Now let's see YOUR proof, if you're not afraid.
*deathly silence*
Sure there was, sport. You're just in denial. You really do believe
in Jesus Christ, having saved us from our sins, and opposing the
death penalty... right??? What other reason could there be? Who
is this "something higher than ourselves," you rave about? How
dare you make such a claim that then argue that it is "unknown,"
while you insist it has been made known secretly to you ... you and
every other religious zealot.
>>>Curious!
>>>
>> Everything is too difficult for you to comprehend, my boy.
>
>
>You are not qualified to make that assertion but it is evident that your ego
>won't allow you to accept that you are wrong.
You are not qualified to tell me that I am not qualified to make
that assertion. Ha... there... gotcha!!!
But talking about egos... you insist that the Holocaust never
happened, because you can't remember it happening. Sport... need
I tell you that you do not remember a lot of things that you
experienced? You experienced being pulled out of your mommy's
vagina... but I'm sure you don't remember it. And yet that happened
only 17 years ago.
>>It's
>> not your fault... nature just did you dirty.
>
>Had nature "done me dirty" I would have been born as you.
>
Awww.... now I've gone and pissed you off... quit your bitching
and admit that your argument had nothing to do with the original
argument that "Supreme Court limits life sentences without parole for
young criminals." Since if you even bothered to read the reference
given you would have seen that it specifically EXCLUDES children
who commit murder. Yet you immediately knee-jerked and stated
exactly the opposition of the referenced article, by raving "Why? Are
the murderers' victims any less dead because the murderer is
"young"? Is the crime any less severe because the criminal is
"Young"?" Which sounded like you're in FAVOR of the death
penalty for children who murder. Looks like you're more in favor
of the death penalty than I am.
>>>>>We do not have the to say who has the right to life.
>>>>
>>>> There is no such thing as "the right to life" in any absolute sense.
>>>> That's Biblical nonsense. God has not put those words up in the
>>>> sky for everyone to know, because God doesn't really give a shit
>>>> about individual lives, or even the lives of our entire species. The
>>>> only "right to life" that exists is such subjectively given by various
>>>> societies to their members. It is subjective, because it is not
>>>> something you can touch or feel. It is not an object that exists
>>>> in reality. Nor is it an _absolute_, since different societies
>>>> determine different views of what is that "right to life."
>>>
>>>"There is no such thing as "the right to life" in any absolute
>>>sense.That's Biblical nonsense"
>>>
>>>I disagree dear sir.
>>
>> I don't care, "my good fellow." You cannot show in any way there is
>> such a thing as "the right to life," other than what various societies
>> grant to their citizens. If there was such a "right" murder would be
>> impossible. If there was such a "right" science would be able to
>> prove it.
>
>
>
>"I don't care, "my good fellow."
>http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/knee-jerk
>
>It's irrelevent the point whether you care or not.
You're the one who brought it up, if you care to pay attention to
the thread. I simply called your bluff in this fantasy of a "right
to life," nonsense. And since you made the assertion, you have
to prove it. I'd really like to see you prove there is a God-given
"right to life" for all biological life. If it's irrelevant...
why do you blab on and on about it? I think you now call
it "irrelevant," because you realize just how frivolous and
scatterbrained is a claim that all biological life has been granted
this _special treatment_ by some clown with a halo on "it's"
head, sitting on a cloud, with lightening bolts coming out of
"it's" eye-sockets.
>>> We are born so we are given the right to life. It is
>>>not for us to say who can keep that right to life and who can't.
>>
>> You're thumping that Bible again. We are born because our
>> parents engaged in procreation, as all animal life does. Do you
>> think a cockroach has "a right to life"? Aren't all cockroaches
>> "born"? Why are we better than a cockroach, unless you believe
>> in the Bible? We are here because the universe has laws that permit
>> the evolution of biological life if environmental conditions are
>> suitable on a planet such as earth, and if a source of energy,
>> called the sun in our solar system, lasts long enough for biological
>> life to arise and evolve. We are a species of biological life... no
>> different than other biological life, other than we have an advanced
>> intelligence gained through evolution, which enables us to
>> scientifically examine how we are here, and philosophically wonder why
>> we are here. While at this stage in our evolution we have a very
>> rudimentary moral and ethical superego, with each of us having a
>> different degree of such morals and ethics. Including some who
>> believe it is moral and ethical to hate or even kill their fellow man
>> for one concocted reason or another.
>
>" You're thumping that Bible again.
>Impossible. as I said, I am not religious.
Of course you're religious... you think we're special... and that's
the same preaching that comes from the Bible and the church.
Sonny... we are no more special than a speck of sand in the entire
ocean and beaches. There is no such thing as a "right to life"
that was given us by some imaginary God. Yet that is your
argument. Yes, my boy... it's loopy Bible-thumping.
>"We are born because our
> parents engaged in procreation, as all animal life does. Do you
> think a cockroach has "a right to life"?""
>
>The cycle of nature gave us right to life. The same cycle gave the cochroach
>the right to life.
ROTFLMAO. Now "cockroaches" have a "right to life." One female
cockroach can produce two million offspring in one year. An average
breeding session produces 35,0000 offspring. If cockroaches had
a "right to life" we'd be up to our necks in cockroaches. How
about flies? They're even more reproductive prolific... One
pair of houseflies will in four months create 191,000,000,000,000,000
descendent flies if all the eggs lived and reproduced normally.
But they have a "right to life," that your "God" gave them!!!
Hey... how about viruses? How about the bubonic plague carrier flea?
How about the RNA viruses responsible for Viral Hemorrhagic Fever?
How about the Rabies virus? How about the bacteria responsible for
Leprosy? Hey why even develop antibiotics... it just makes all
humans "killers," right? Gee... even washing our hands makes
each of us a mass murderer. All those poor, poor microbes....
being washed down the drain... oh... the humanity!!!
>"Aren't all cockroaches "born"? "
>
>I would hope so.
So you insist that "cockroaches" also have this _special_ right to
life given to them by your God. How about rocks? Do they have
this "right to life" given to them by your God? Don't they last
longer than the mayfly, which has an average life span of about
seven hours? Where does the mayfly go to bitch about his
short "right to life"?
>"Why are we better than a cockroach, unless you believe in the Bible?"
>
>You believe we are better than cockroaches?
Of course. Evolution determines that... not God, nor man.
Let me know when cockroaches develop electricity for their
nests. Let me know when they drive cars from one nest to
another. Let me know they can write, and read books,
showing the soaring of mind in fiction such as "the Moon
and Sixpence." Let me know when they demonstrate a sense
of sentience, when they can argue about morals, and ethics,
and hold university classes which teach philosophy, science,
and the Arts. Let me know when they can develop theorems
and hypotheses based upon logic, mathematics, and the
examination of the natural laws of physics. Let me know
when they see their existence and the universe follows these
natural laws of physics. While knowing that as much as we
have discovered, there is probably at least a hundred times
that amount that remains for us to discover, as we evolve
inexorably into yet again a higher species than homo Sapiens.
Look what we've done in the last 100 years... and think
of what we can do in the next 5 thousand million years.
Let me know when cockroaches can write and play music
similar to that created by Beethoven, or opera created by
Verdi, or pop music created by the Beatles, using a variety
of instruments that they build by themselves. Let me
know when they can sing like Pavarotti, or Callas, or Streisand.
Let me know when they can paint the Mona Lisa, or create
the human passion shown in "Starry Night." Let me know
when they can sculpt a statue of David. Let me know
when they can take pictures that move faster than the
eye can detect making those pictures appear to move.
Let me know when they can construct edifices like
St. Peter's Cathedral, and The Taj Mahal. Let me know when
they can build bridges like the Golden Gate bridge,
or giant vessels that ride on water so they can cross
vast spans of water.
Let me know when cockroaches can look up at the vast stretch
and sweep of the night sky and know that space stretches for
~300,000,000 times 60, times 60, times 24, times ~365.25, times
~14,000,000,000 meters, in any direction. Let me know
when one cockroach can communicate with another cockroach
hundreds of thousands of miles away, as we did more than
40 years ago when man stood on the moon. Let me know
when cockroaches understand Einstein's relativity, or what Planck's
Constant is, what a Planck length is, or what the Avogadro constant
is, or what an atom is, or understand Heisenberg's Uncertainty
Principle, or explain Schrödinger's cat, or a Feynman diagram, or
explain Boolean Logic (hell even you can't do that), or explain a
Turing Machine.
Let me know when cockroaches can find drugs which both fight
and protect against various illnesses. Let me know when
they can both discover and then isolate the basic elements
of nature. Let me know when they understand there is
a far more mysterious force than exists in classical
physics which we have discovered in quantum mechanics.
Let me know when they determine the particle-wave
duality of light. Let me know when they split the atom.
Let me know when they discover DNA, genes, chromosomes,
the double-helix, and the genome. Let me know when
they discover superconductivity. Let me know when
they know what a quark is.
No, my son... neither the cockroach nor human beings have
a right to life. But biologically and evolutionary... we are
better than cockroaches. We do more than fornicate and
look for food, which is the sum of the entire existence of
every cockroach. Cockroaches know nothing but reproduction
and food, while humans recognize that for whatever reason,
cloaked in a riddle, evolution has placed us at the top of the
evolutionary chain on this rather insignificant little planet.
And finally, let me know when the cockroach learns how
to wear shoes and step on humans, as humans have
learned how to wear shoes and step on cockroaches.
>>We are here because the universe has laws that permit
>> the evolution of biological life if environmental conditions are
>> suitable on a planet such as earth, and if a source of energy,
>> called the sun in our solar system, lasts long enough for biological
>> life to arise and evolve. We are a species of biological life... no
>> different than other biological life, other than we have an advanced
>> intelligence gained through evolution, which enables us to
>> scientifically examine how we are here, and philosophically wonder why
>> we are here. While at this stage in our evolution we have a very
>> rudimentary moral and ethical superego, with each of us having a
>> different degree of such morals and ethics. Including some who
>> believe it is moral and ethical to hate or even kill their fellow man
>> for one concocted reason or another.
>"
>
>That is correct but we are not gods. We do not have the right to decide who
>lives and who dies.
Who says? Where is it written in the sky, in the stars, on the moon,
or in any magic book passed down to us from some superhuman being?
There isn't any... thus... your argument is considered baloney...
because no proof offered. In fact murderers DO DECIDE who lives
and who dies when they press a weapon against the head of a
young girl they intend to rape and THEN kill. In fact, many of them
don't really give a rat's ass whether they rape that young girl if she
is dead or alive. They just enjoy the moment of adding some torture
to the mix. Where is HER "right to life" at that moment, which you
insist she has been given by "something higher than ourselves,"
who apparently is known to no one but you?
>> As I pointed out to your buddy, mxsmanic --
>>
>> The Superego is that part of the mind and development that represents
>> the internalized moral standards of the society and, above all, of the
>> parents. Lacking finding any moral standards in the parents, or the
>> parents being absent, creates a vacuum for moral standards, and the
>> superego obviously leans toward internalizing the moral standards of
>> peers, if having NO OTHER DIRECTION. The Superego is approximately
>> equivalent to what we call "conscience." "Conscience" is an emotional
>> response, and the lack of "conscience" is what drives many to commit
>> murder. Those who lack the EMOTIONAL capacity of "conscience."
>> Such as the Nazis lack of "conscience" in the attempted extermination
>> of European Jewry.
>
>"As I pointed out to your buddy, mxsmanic "
>
>Curios
If there is a God... He is the only one able to comprehend your rather
grimy and creepy mind. In any case... "he" certainly hasn't given
all biological life a "right to life." Quite the contrary... nature
has made sure that there is no thing as a "right to life," by creating
the predator and the prey. The food chain is an essential fact, and
giving creatures a "right to life," would be a disaster that would
have already ensured that you would not be here as a human.
>"> The Superego is that part of the mind and development that represents
>> the internalized moral standards of the society and, above all, of the
>> parents. Lacking finding any moral standards in the parents, or the
>> parents being absent, creates a vacuum for moral standards, and the
>> superego obviously leans toward internalizing the moral standards of
>> peers, if having NO OTHER DIRECTION. The Superego is approximately
>> equivalent to what we call "conscience." "Conscience" is an emotional
>> response, and the lack of "conscience" is what drives many to commit
>> murder. Those who lack the EMOTIONAL capacity of "conscience."
>> Such as the Nazis lack of "conscience" in the attempted extermination
>> of European Jewry."
>
>Interesing comment.
How would you know? You insist the Nazis didn't attempt the
extermination of European Jewry because you can't remember if they
did.
>> None of this argues there is such a silly thing as a "natural right to
>> life human beings have." It's religious gobbledygook. And it has no
>> place in arguments of morals and ethics... it only has a place in
>> various churches.
>
>As I said before; I am not religious. However we are born with the right to
>life because we are born.
No proof offered. Your claim fails. Being born doesn't give anyone
anything special. We are only special when we make some substantial
contribution to the advance of our species, and thus the advance of
evolution. This does not happen at birth, but when we do contribute
to the advance of evolution. And then only "special" in terms of
having made our lives either better, or more knowledgeable - providing
shoulders for later geniuses to stand upon to make our lives even
better. Babies are born premature and die in hours. No one gave them
the "right to life." We abort ON DEMAND millions of viable fetuses
and no other than me seems to give a shit about it. Liberals shout
that "women have the right to DEMAND the killing of the viable fetus
that lives within them," while if a women came into a doctor and
demanded that her viable right arm be removed, she'd be taken away to
the booby hatch. Where is that "right to life" you so proudly rave
about? Where is it!!!
>We are born because whatever causes the
>reproductive cycle to commence gives us that right, so the same has the
>right do take it away; nothing else does.
That's just more of your frivolous argument. You can offer absolutely
NO SCIENTIFIC PROOF of what you insist is a FACT. I don't care what
your "opinion," is because everyone has an "opinion." But clearly you
cannot assert something as blissfully foolish as "a right to life,"
for all biological life. You certainly cannot prove it... thus your
argument is based upon your religious beliefs... and you obviously
become a Bible-thumper. You can't say that you're not religious
when your entire argument has a bedrock based upon religion.
There is absolutely no SCIENTIFIC proof of your claim, thus the
only "proof" you have is this absurd belief that your God has given
all biological life a "right to life." Weird... totally weird.
I repeat again... offer some scientific proof of this "right to life"
you presume is somehow magically given to every form of
biological life by some "special being sitting on his throne,
eating olives, while laughing and throwing the pits at us, and
saying to himself -- "What fools these mortals be."
>> If you assert that we do have "a natural right to life," you need to
>> prove it. I don't need to prove what is obvious - simply because
>> murder is a common occurrence among human beings.
>
>"If you assert that we do have "a natural right to life," you need to
>> prove it."
>
>No I don't.
Then it doesn't exist. End of story. But why do you keep repeating
my words rather than just responding to them? Good grief - you're
one weird fruitcake.
>>"I don't need to prove what is obvious - simply because
>> murder is a common occurrence among human beings"
>
>Your need to prove is the same as mine. In other words, it doesn't exist.
>
But murder is obviously the counter argument to a "right to life,"
how can anyone take away this imaginary "right to life" if given
to all of us by some _higher force_? Murders exist... just because
the word "life" exists doesn't mean that the word "death" doesn't
exist. If there is a _force_ behind what you claim then
everyone would live for exactly the same microseconds of time.
Since you presume such a "right to life" is given to all biological
life. Obviously not everyone becomes a victim of murder.
The word "common" doesn't mean "universal," with ALL
human beings. While your argument attempts to encompass
all biological life.
>>>> That being said... we are talking ONLY about the U.S. death penalty.
>>>> In the U.S., the "right to life" is not an absolute. The U.S.
>>>> constitution clearly provides for the possibility of the death
>>>> penalty. It does protect in the form of prohibiting "double
>>>> jeopardy," and it does protect in the form of prohibiting "cruel and
>>>> unusual punishment." But the death penalty per se is not considered
>>>> "cruel and unusual punishment."
>>>
>>>You don't observe cooking someone alive in a chair as cruel and unusual?
>>
>> We don't use the electric chair any longer. Execution by electric
>> chair is not mandatory in any state in the U.S. It is only used when
>> the condemned demands such execution, in four states: Alabama,
>> Florida, South Carolina and Virginia. Those states use lethal
>> injection in every case except when the condemned demands the
>> electric chair.
>
>"We don't use the electric chair any longer. Execution by electric
>> chair is not mandatory in any state in the U.S."
>
>But you still have it.
Because some condemned prefer it. Are we also supposed to torture
them by not giving them the method of execution they prefer?
>"It is only used when
>> the condemned demands such execution, in four states: Alabama,
>> Florida, South Carolina and Virginia. Those states use lethal
>> injection in every case except when the condemned demands the
>> electric chair.
>"
>
>The lethal injection was invented by your friends, the Nazis. "Action T4" it
>was known as.
>
>http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&q=Action+T4&aq=f&aqi=g2&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=6584d9987ab93617
>
Your friends, the Nazis, used it on the Jews, and innocent people. You
insist you don't remember the Nazis... You insist you don't
remember the Nazis using lethal injection and gassing the Jews.
yet here you are using them in your own self-interest, rather than
condemning them for attempting to exterminate European Jewry. No
wonder I find you to be a neo-Nazi. You use their same methods.
>>> You
>>>don't see keeping them suspended under "due process" often for years at a
>>>time before you finally kill the poor indivual. Such is not better than
>>>the chinese water torture only over a longer duration.
>>
>> Spare me your weeping for convicted murderers.
>
>Why? Is your conscience bothering you? I truly doubt it.
If you doubt it... why do you ask? And the answer is I sleep like
a baby when I know of the death of a brutal pedophile murderer who
slaughtered and raped a 24-month-old child, and tortured her by
ripping out her tiny breasts with pliers, and burning her over and
over, before murdering her. And the reason??? He wrote in
his notebook -- "Why do I want to degrade and humiliate children?
Sadism...I enjoy the humiliation. Defile the innocent. Make them
scared of sex. It's dirty. I didn't have a happy childhood, neither
will they...Revenge."
His name was Theodore Frank... the child's name was Amy Sue
Seitz. See -
http://www.wtv-zone.com/LadyMaggie/php/AmySueStory.html
When I heard he had died on death row, after spending 23 years
there, rather than being executed, I felt cheated and dirty...
like the world had lost its morality. And yet... when I went to
bed... I just feel asleep and slept like a baby... happy that such
scum was no longer capable of breathing the same air that other
humans breath. Society was letting him take up air... needlessly,
for 23 years. And you lick your lips in a grotesque smug smile,
that this murderous scum was _saved_ from execution. And
then go and thump your Bible frantically and joyously, in honor
of the life of Theodore Frank. While I was only thankful he
was finally dead!!!
>>>>>That honour is
>>>>>strictly owned by something higher than ourselves.
>>>>
>>>> ROTFLMAO. Who would that be? I thought you said you weren't
>>>> religious. Now I see you thumping that Bible. Is this something
>>>> "it" told you in a dream... or are you a prophet uttering a revelation
>>>> from your "something higher than ourselves"? How come "it" never
>>>> told me? Are you claiming to be "special"?
>>>>
>>>
>>>"Who would that be?"
>>>
>>>Unknown.
>>>
>> Well how do you claim that "you know the unknown"? Are you claiming
>> you're omnipotent?
>
>Curious.
Mindless drivel.
>>
>>>"I thought you said you weren't religious. "
>>>
>>>You meant to type, "I thought you said that you're not religious. "
>>
>> "weren't" is more correct... since I see you thumping the Bible right
>> now.
>
>No. "Aren't" is more correct in context. I do not thump the bible. I am not
>religious..
You'll never convince me of that. Thus "weren't" is more correct in
what I meant to say. You can't put words in my mouth, and argue I
mean what I don't say. At one point you said you "weren't" religious,
now I find that you are thumping the Bible. Your denial doesn't mean
I don't see it in your argument.
>>>The "thought" is past tense, my religious status is not. That aside, you
>>>are quite right. I am not religious.
>>>
>> LOL... But you claim you "know the unknown." Great Scott!!! What
>> are next week's Lotto number???
>
>I made no such claim.
Of course you did. You ASSERTED that there is a "right to life" for
all biological life. And you stated exactly who gave that "right to
life" to all biological life, in your words -- "That honour is
strictly owned by something higher than ourselves." Well, if you
KNOW that it is given by "something higher than ourselves,"
then you must KNOW what that something is. But in answer
to that you insist it is "unknown." Well, if you argue it is
"something higher than ourselves," then you are obviously
stating that it is "known" to you as "something higher than
ourselves." So your argument is that it is unknown to everyone
BUT you... while only you KNOW that it is "something higher than
ourselves." Now how do you know that it's not the cockroach
having given this Easter bunny "right to life" to all biological life?
Obviously if you contend it's NOT the cockroach, then you must
know what it is.
Since you KNOW it is "something higher than ourselves," prove
it is not the cockroach. Or simply prove that it is "something
higher than ourselves," since that's nothing but a "mental
abstraction" your mind invented, since even you insist it is
"unknown." If it's "unknown" to YOU, then how can you
KNOW that it "something higher than ourselves"?
quod erat demonstrandum: There is no "something higher
than ourselves," who has given this magical "right to life" to
all biological life. It's hogwash. It's your religion imagination
run amok.
>>>"Now I see you thumping that Bible"
>>>
>>>
>>>I gave no mention to Jehovah or to any particular diety nor did a give
>>>reference to any particular doctrined or derivatives thereof. Therefor
>>>your term, "Thumping the bible" is another one of your innacurate assertions
>>
>> Well then... I guess it's just the peyote you're on that's talking,
>> when you start raving about "knowing the unknown."
>
>Your desperation appears to be growing in a logarithmic scale.
Sonny, you don't know a logarithmic scale from a horse's ass.
>>>" Should I say it?? Oh... what the hell... No proof offered. Your claim
>>>fails."
>>>
>>>That was based from a false premise hence moot.
>>
>> TRANSLATION: "That damn PV has done it to me AGAIN!!! I'll have
>> to ignore the fact that I have no proof... and call it "moot," my
>> new favorite word, after "static," to try getting out of the holes
>> I keep for myself."
>
>"That was based from a false premise hence moot."
>
>>
>> It's not moot.... "thumping the Bible," means basing your arguments
>> on religious grounds. Obviously the argument of some God-like
>> force that gives humans special consideration among all the beasts
>> and the animals, granting humans a "universal right to life," that
>> no other animal or beast enjoys, is based upon religious beliefs.
>> Since scientifically no such "human right to life exists." And if it
>> can't be _scientifically proven_ then it's religious hogwash to claim
>> it exists despite the lack of _scientific proof_. You might as well
>> argue the existence of the Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy.
>>
>
>>"It's not moot.... "thumping the Bible," means basing your arguments
>> on religious grounds."
>
>Incorrect. The bible is specifically implimented in the Abraham doctines,
>Christianity, Catholisism, Islam, Judasim and families of said religions.
>However such is not applicable for Hinduism, Buddhism, Pagan religions and
>similar.
You thump them all. Religion is your passion... you're a follower...
not an independent thinker. I know you're still a child, relatively
speaking, but try not to let others influence you. Think for
yourself, rather than mimic some Bible-belt Elmer Gantry. There
is something about religious fanatics like yourself that just cannot
stand to see the truth.
>"Obviously the argument of some God-like
>> force that gives humans special consideration among all the beasts
>> and the animals, granting humans a "universal right to life," that
>> no other animal or beast enjoys, is based upon religious beliefs.
>> Since scientifically no such "human right to life exists." And if it
>> can't be _scientifically proven_ then it's religious hogwash to claim
>> it exists despite the lack of _scientific proof_. You might as well
>> argue the existence of the Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy.
>> "
>
>If you wish to discuss theology then there are many such newgroups available
>for that area. There are also many Athiesm ones but they wouldn't interest
>you. You would have no'one to argue with.
You're the one arguing the "something higher than ourselves," but
is "unknown." What the hell is that all about if not religious
claptrap?
>>>>> Executing someone for
>>>>>murder is stating that we don't stand by our own values regarding
>>>>>homicide.
>>>>>I have no stomach for such attitudes.
>>>>
>>>> No one asked you. Your personal feelings did not protect Colleen
>>>> Reed. She was abducted from a car wash, and tortured and raped
>>>> the entire night by Kenneth McDuff, who then stated that he would
>>>> "use her up," in murdering her with as much torture as possible.
>>>>
>>>
>>>"No one asked you"
>>>
>>>Irrelevent. I shall speak out regardless as have many before me and as
>>>shall
>>>many succeeding me.
>>
>> I'm well aware that you're speaking in support of the murder of
>> Colleen Reed, and for the _salvation_ (hallelujah) of Kenneth McDuff.
>
>No you are not.
The willingness to accept responsibility for what one supports is the
source from which all self-respect springs. Earn some self-respect
and see yourself for the religious fruitcake you are. Then think for
yourself and examine the world around you, and realize that one of
the most foolish of thoughts is that biological life on earth is
somehow graced with "the right to life," when nature shows us
quite a different face. There is still time... you are still a child.
You have much to learn... grasshopper.
>>>" Your personal feelings did not protect Colleen Reed"
>>>
>>>And neither did your death penalty!
>>>
>> That's because it wasn't used. Had it been used as originally
>> decided by 12 honest citizens, Colleen Reed would be alive today.
>> You can't blame the death penalty when the fact is not using
>> the death penalty (a position you support) is what resulted in
>> the murder of Colleen Reed, and some others. A sentence of
>> life (a sentence you support rather than the death penalty) is
>> what permitted Kenneth McDuff to murder Colleen Reed, and
>> some others.
>
>"That's because it wasn't used"
>
>Irrelevant. You death penatly does not deter. You kill one, another takes
>his place. Your death penalty increases the corpse count.
Tell that to Colleen Reed. Oh, wait... you can't... she was murdered
by the guy you support not having been executed. Talk about your
Schadenfreude... it looks like you enjoy knowing Kenneth McDuff wasn't
executed and was left to kill Colleen Reed.
>>
>>>> Kenneth McDuff had already been sentenced to death prior to
>>>> his abducting Colleen Reed, but had his death penalty sentence
>>>> overturned by the Supreme Court when the Supreme Court ruled
>>>> that the death penalty as presently created in statutes was "cruel
>>>> and unusual" in Furman v. Georgia, resulting in the release from the
>>>> death penalty of hundreds of capital murderers. Kenneth McDuff was
>>>> then released and continued his spree of murders, none of which would
>>>> have happened had the feelings of 12 citizens been honored. See --
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_McDuff
>>>
>>>Then you put the man away in a mental institution, sir. Kenneth McDuff was
>>>obviously insane.
>>
>> Wrong. You don't have the slightest idea of the legal and psychiatric
>> definition of insane. You're out of your league, "my good fellow."
>
>Curios. You don't have the slightest idea of what I have knowledge of, my
>dear fellow and further more, it does not take a psychiatrist to know that
>psyche of a serial killer is not that of a healthy mind.
When you argue that Kenneth McDuff was "obviously insane," that is
proof positive that "you don't have the slightest idea of the legal
and psychiatric definition of insane."
>"You're out of your league, "my good fellow.""
>
>More puerile conjecture.
TRANSLATION "Damn, I am getting so tired of PV demolishing each and
every one of my arguments."
>>
>>>> How's it feel to have supported the murder of Colleen Reed to
>>>> save the life of Kenneth McDuff?
>>>
>>>We oppose the death penalty.
>>
>> You and who else?
>
>Those of us whom oppose the death penalty.
>
Why do you oppose the death penalty for murderers who are none of your
concern, since they threaten citizens of the U.S. rather than citizens
of the Netherlands? I'll bet you weep for the murderer of Theo van
Gogh. But that is your concern. I don't care if you throw that
murderer a parade, and a week with that gorgeous coffee girl who
pushed around a coffee cart in a bank in Rotterdam, 36 years ago.
Why do you stick your nose in what is no concern of your regarding an
internal affairs issue of the U.S.? Clearly such concern can only
have a religious foundation. Plus you think you're BETTER than
Americans who make decisions about murderers in their country... not
yours. This goes right along with my argument that you see yourself
as "superior" to other humans, rather than the childish snot that you
are. It's all part of your belief in an "Aryan nation concept" where
you considers Americans to be uncivilized and immoral. Yet our dead
stand witness to the fact that we had to rescue your sick ass from
conquerors... not once... but twice in one century... See --
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/those_who_stayed_behind.jpg
You ungrateful swine. Without us... you'd be speaking German.
>>> We do not oppose incarceration of the insane.
>>
>> You and who else?
>
>Those of us whom oppose the death penalty.
Why do you oppose the death penalty for murderers who are none of your
concern, since they threaten citizens of the U.S. rather than citizens
of the Netherlands? I'll bet you weep for the murderer of Theo van
Gogh. But that is your concern. I don't care if you throw that
murderer a parade, and a week with that gorgeous coffee girl who
pushed around a coffee cart in a bank in Rotterdam, 36 years ago.
Why do you stick your nose in what is no concern of your regarding an
internal affairs issue of the U.S.? Clearly such concern can only
have a religious foundation. Plus you think you're BETTER than
Americans who make decisions about murderers in their country... not
yours. This goes right along with my argument that you see yourself
as "superior" to other humans, rather than the childish snot that you
are. It's all part of your belief in an "Aryan nation concept" where
you considers Americans to be uncivilized and immoral. Yet our dead
stand witness to the fact that we had to rescue your sick asses from
conquerors... not once... but twice in one century... See --
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/those_who_stayed_behind.jpg
You ungrateful swine. Without us... you'd be speaking German.
>>
>>> If your government released on obvious madman into a situation where he
>>> is going to kill again then the fault is that of your government. Do not try
>>>to blame us for your mistakes.
>>
>> Do not try to stop me from blaming you for your mistake of protecting
>> the life of Kenneth McDuff, so he could murder... and murder... and
>> murder... some say at least 16 times after his release from a death
>> sentence because you opposed that death sentence.
>
>You do not have the authority to apportion blame. Your govenrment released
>him.
>
You supported it, by opposing his execution as it was originally
ordered by 12 honest citizens in an open court.
>>
>> How do you live with yourself, knowing your responsibility for the
>> murder of Colleen Reed??? Why don't you keep your nose out of
>> U.S. internal affairs? I don't mind those who complain about actions
>> the U.S. takes in her foreign affairs... but it's unseemly for you to
>> running your mouth off about what the U.S. does with her murderers.
>> Why not worry about the genocide of six million Jews that Europe
>> was responsible for?
>
>"How do you live with yourself, knowing your responsibility for the
>> murder of Colleen Reed??? "
>
>I have no such responsibilty.
No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>Kenneth McDuff killed her after your goverment
>released him. It is evidence where that bombshell lays but your ego won't
>let you see it. That is such a tragic pity.
So you support all convicted murderers receiving L wop (life without
parole), without exception. How very primal and barbaric... worse
than a humane execution... especially for an innocent who must
spend his entire life in prison, living with those only a hairbreadth
from animals, knowing he is innocent. Death row is much more
humane than that. Death row saved the life of Theodore Frank,
because in the general prison population, with other prisoners
always knowing the crime another has committed, Theodore
Frank would not have lived a single year. He would have been
murdered in some laundry room in the prison, or stabbed with
a shank in the prison yard.
>> Why not find a hobby, or watch Bambi, instead of whining for
>> U.S. murderers?
>
>I have several. One of them is enjoying a good comedy. Your posts provide
>that for me, dear fellow.
>
I haven't seen you laugh. All I've seen is you repeating my comments
and then denying... and denying... and denying... Yet the evidence is
clear... in the very comments of mine that you repeat.
Planet Visitor II
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/dictionary.html
"Si l'on veut abolir la peine de mort en ce cas, que MM. les
assassins commencent." -- Alphonse Karr, Les Guępes, 1840
>J
Your comment of previous post did that for me, dear sir.
"because you didn't see the Holocaust that it must not have happened."
Your words, not mine.
My comments held a flow relevent to the topic at hand. Yours didn't, but
there's no use crying over spilt milk. You cannot take time back.
>
>>> So I repeat... no proof offered. Your claim fails. Offering fatuous
>>> and insipid excreta that are both emetic and abandon any logic
>>> whatsoever, as you do, hardly places you in a position to criticize
>>> me. You wouldn't know a "logical flow" if it flew up your nether
>>> regions.
>>>
>>
>>And I repeat "You were consistent there in that your present comment is
>>equallt lacking in logical flow."
>>
> You can repeat it forever, but it will be no more true after repeating
> it for an eternity than it is not true at this moment. In fact, it's
> fairly obvious that your comment is just meaningless gobbledygook, and
> I doubt whether you really know what it's supposed to mean.
>
"You can repeat it forever, but it will be no more true after repeating it
for an eternity than it is not true at this moment."
It was already true. My repeating it was in response to the uncorrect one
you repeated.
"Now answer me one question -- What is your mother-tongue???
Since it's now obvious that it is not English."
This is none of your fucking business, dear Sir.
>>
>>> Remember the first words above? "Supreme Court limits life sentences
>>> without parole for young criminals."
>>>
>>> Nothing at all about the death penalty. So suck it up, loser. Now, I
>>> don't mind demolishing crackpots like you on the subject of the U.S.
>>> death penalty, because it keeps the juices flowing, but please don't
>>> try that crap that you didn't change the "logical flow" of this
>>> particular dialog.
>>
>>Self praise is no praise at all. Declaring yourself the winner does not
>>make
>>you the winner. It's just another example of your sillyness. Nothing
>>changes. Nobody wins.
>
> Spoken like the true loser you are.
I accept your white flag.
Only some of the untrue ones.
>
>>> English isn't your mother-tongue is it?
>>
>>No. but it's still better than yours.
>>
> Gee... who was it that said "self-praise is no praise at all"? Oh,
> wait... that was you just about two paragraphs back.
It wasn't praise. Do you need to look that word up too? Your English suffers
severe flaws, sir.
>
> Bet you're Dutch, with a dingleberry hanging from your ass because
> of your unhygienic paedomorphic habits. You're certainly
> not Italian... I am almost mother-tongue fluent in Italian having
> learned most of it before I was 14, and then taking it as my
> minor in college. You're not French... my wife is mother-tongue
> French, born and raised in Paris... so I can do very well in
> the French spoken language, and good enough in the written
> language. You're not German... I spent 20 years in Germany,
> and can keep up a fairly good conversation, because people
> tend to overlook grammatical mistakes in respect to "der" "die"
> "das" gender notation and case endings when speaking, although
> my written German could use a lot of work, for which I do not
> have time, and no longer have the drive I once had. I don't think
> you're Spanish or Portuguese. Nor from the former East bloc.
> And since you mention the U.K., but English is not your mother-tongue,
> that only leaves the Netherlands.
Why are you so curious regarding my country of origin? Are you a xenophobe
or just a plain racist? Your knowledge of the world anatomy is as poor as
your comprehension of your own mother tongue.
>
> So I suspect that in real life you are a rather lonely 17-year-old
> Dutch boy, who is a virgin, afraid of the opposite sex, pimply and
> overweight, has no friends, lacks even moderate athletic abilities, is
> considered weird by his schoolmates, lives on junk food, spends an
> excessive amount of time surfing porn and White Power sites,
> and is so overly-mothered it's creepy.
Suspect all you choose, my dear friend. I have no liability to identify
myself to you.
>
> I suspect you do average work in school since you don't appear to
> be retarded to me, but you certainly have deep psychological issues,
> and an inability to relate to others when speaking in your
> mother-tongue, thus you struggle along making mistake after mistake in
> the English language, boring us in AADP, showing a political
> philosophy based upon a belief in your "Aryan superiority," that
> you've never "seen a Black person," and a refusal to accept that the
> extermination of six million Jews in the 20th Century actually
> happened. In addition to arguing that you do remember "the Crusades,"
> "WW II," and "the Greeks." Just what do you remember about the
> Greeks? Try to impress me with your knowledge of Aeschylus. Do you
> remember even one of his plays? Can you name even one of his plays? Do
> you remember what Crusade was led by Richard the Lionheart? No fair
> using Google now!!
My turn now, dear sir. I suspect that the only trutheful comment you made in
this newsgroup is your age. Your over compensation in telling people about
yourself that such a practice is only done to render a fabrication. You lie
so often you do it habitually. You misquote people, either deliberately or
you are very backward regarding the English language. You do not have to
answer this. You have no obligation.
>
> However, I can prove my creds. As I've had to do more than once
> when confronted with an immature uneducated youth. See -
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/birth_certificate.jpg
> Born Feb 1, 1932.
>
> My University of Maryland Bachelor's degree. Magna Cum Laude --
> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Maryland.jpg
>
> My Boston University Master's degree
> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Boston.jpg
>
> My Boston University Master's degree transcript. All A's, 1 B.
> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/Transcript.jpg
>
> My Military Retirement Certificate after 20 years in the U.S. Military
> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Retirement.jpg
>
> I have blocked out various personal information such as
> my Social Security Number.
>
> Now let's see YOUR proof, if you're not afraid.
>
This is where we differ. You feel obliged to prove yourself. I do not.
>
> *deathly silence*
>
Curious. You were anything but silent.
"You're just in denial"
Ah, yes, the denial line. A perfect justification for anyone who wants to
beleive anything they chose.
I am not a religious person, sir.. I beleive the correct word is "agnostic"
>
>>>>Curious!
>>>>
>>> Everything is too difficult for you to comprehend, my boy.
>>
>>
>>You are not qualified to make that assertion but it is evident that your
>>ego
>>won't allow you to accept that you are wrong.
>
> You are not qualified to tell me that I am not qualified to make
> that assertion. Ha... there... gotcha!!!
I am qualified, sir.
"gotcha!!! "
Puerile. You are a child, sir.
>
> But talking about egos... you insist that the Holocaust never
> happened, because you can't remember it happening. Sport... need
> I tell you that you do not remember a lot of things that you
> experienced? You experienced being pulled out of your mommy's
> vagina... but I'm sure you don't remember it. And yet that happened
> only 17 years ago.
>
>>>It's
>>> not your fault... nature just did you dirty.
>>
>>Had nature "done me dirty" I would have been born as you.
>>
> Awww.... now I've gone and pissed you off... quit your bitching
> and admit that your argument had nothing to do with the original
> argument that "Supreme Court limits life sentences without parole for
> young criminals." Since if you even bothered to read the reference
> given you would have seen that it specifically EXCLUDES children
> who commit murder. Yet you immediately knee-jerked and stated
> exactly the opposition of the referenced article, by raving "Why? Are
> the murderers' victims any less dead because the murderer is
> "young"? Is the crime any less severe because the criminal is
> "Young"?" Which sounded like you're in FAVOR of the death
> penalty for children who murder. Looks like you're more in favor
> of the death penalty than I am.
>
You sound very angry, dear fellow. Do you like getting angry? Do you feel
alive when you do?
All biology has a birth given right to life. It is not for us to proportion
it. We are not gods.
No, sir. I am not religious.
>>"We are born because our
>> parents engaged in procreation, as all animal life does. Do you
>> think a cockroach has "a right to life"?""
>>
>>The cycle of nature gave us right to life. The same cycle gave the
>>cochroach
>>the right to life.
>
> ROTFLMAO. Now "cockroaches" have a "right to life." One female
> cockroach can produce two million offspring in one year. An average
> breeding session produces 35,0000 offspring. If cockroaches had
> a "right to life" we'd be up to our necks in cockroaches. How
> about flies? They're even more reproductive prolific... One
> pair of houseflies will in four months create 191,000,000,000,000,000
> descendent flies if all the eggs lived and reproduced normally.
> But they have a "right to life," that your "God" gave them!!!
They still have the right to life.
>
> Hey... how about viruses? How about the bubonic plague carrier flea?
> How about the RNA viruses responsible for Viral Hemorrhagic Fever?
> How about the Rabies virus? How about the bacteria responsible for
> Leprosy? Hey why even develop antibiotics... it just makes all
> humans "killers," right? Gee... even washing our hands makes
> each of us a mass murderer. All those poor, poor microbes....
> being washed down the drain... oh... the humanity!!!
>
>>"Aren't all cockroaches "born"? "
>>
>>I would hope so.
>
> So you insist that "cockroaches" also have this _special_ right to
> life given to them by your God. How about rocks? Do they have
> this "right to life" given to them by your God? Don't they last
> longer than the mayfly, which has an average life span of about
> seven hours? Where does the mayfly go to bitch about his
> short "right to life"?
>
I don't have a god, sir.
>>"Why are we better than a cockroach, unless you believe in the Bible?"
>>
>>You believe we are better than cockroaches?
>
> Of course. Evolution determines that... not God, nor man.
> Let me know when cockroaches develop electricity for their
> nests. Let me know when they drive cars from one nest to
> another. Let me know they can write, and read books,
> showing the soaring of mind in fiction such as "the Moon
> and Sixpence." Let me know when they demonstrate a sense
> of sentience, when they can argue about morals, and ethics,
> and hold university classes which teach philosophy, science,
> and the Arts. Let me know when they can develop theorems
> and hypotheses based upon logic, mathematics, and the
> examination of the natural laws of physics. Let me know
> when they see their existence and the universe follows these
> natural laws of physics. While knowing that as much as we
> have discovered, there is probably at least a hundred times
> that amount that remains for us to discover, as we evolve
> inexorably into yet again a higher species than homo Sapiens.
> Look what we've done in the last 100 years... and think
> of what we can do in the next 5 thousand million years.
If you are going to regurgitate Darwin then show the man the respect he
deserves by correctly referencing him.
>
> Let me know when cockroaches can write and play music
> similar to that created by Beethoven, or opera created by
> Verdi, or pop music created by the Beatles, using a variety
> of instruments that they build by themselves. Let me
> know when they can sing like Pavarotti, or Callas, or Streisand.
> Let me know when they can paint the Mona Lisa, or create
> the human passion shown in "Starry Night." Let me know
> when they can sculpt a statue of David. Let me know
> when they can take pictures that move faster than the
> eye can detect making those pictures appear to move.
> Let me know when they can construct edifices like
> St. Peter's Cathedral, and The Taj Mahal. Let me know when
> they can build bridges like the Golden Gate bridge,
> or giant vessels that ride on water so they can cross
> vast spans of water.
So you beleiver that you are only entitled to live if you can write or play
music? Can you do any of those things? A redundent question, sir. You can
certainlty write fiction.
>
> Let me know when cockroaches can look up at the vast stretch
> and sweep of the night sky and know that space stretches for
> ~300,000,000 times 60, times 60, times 24, times ~365.25, times
> ~14,000,000,000 meters, in any direction. Let me know
> when one cockroach can communicate with another cockroach
> hundreds of thousands of miles away, as we did more than
> 40 years ago when man stood on the moon. Let me know
> when cockroaches understand Einstein's relativity, or what Planck's
> Constant is, what a Planck length is, or what the Avogadro constant
> is, or what an atom is, or understand Heisenberg's Uncertainty
> Principle, or explain Schr�dinger's cat, or a Feynman diagram, or
Nature says.
>
>>> As I pointed out to your buddy, mxsmanic --
>>>
>>> The Superego is that part of the mind and development that represents
>>> the internalized moral standards of the society and, above all, of the
>>> parents. Lacking finding any moral standards in the parents, or the
>>> parents being absent, creates a vacuum for moral standards, and the
>>> superego obviously leans toward internalizing the moral standards of
>>> peers, if having NO OTHER DIRECTION. The Superego is approximately
>>> equivalent to what we call "conscience." "Conscience" is an emotional
>>> response, and the lack of "conscience" is what drives many to commit
>>> murder. Those who lack the EMOTIONAL capacity of "conscience."
>>> Such as the Nazis lack of "conscience" in the attempted extermination
>>> of European Jewry.
>>
>>"As I pointed out to your buddy, mxsmanic "
>>
>>Curios
>
> If there is a God... He is the only one able to comprehend your rather
> grimy and creepy mind. In any case... "he" certainly hasn't given
> all biological life a "right to life." Quite the contrary... nature
> has made sure that there is no thing as a "right to life," by creating
> the predator and the prey. The food chain is an essential fact, and
> giving creatures a "right to life," would be a disaster that would
> have already ensured that you would not be here as a human.
>
Everything is born with the right to life. You do not have any right to
declare otherwise.
>>"> The Superego is that part of the mind and development that represents
>>> the internalized moral standards of the society and, above all, of the
>>> parents. Lacking finding any moral standards in the parents, or the
>>> parents being absent, creates a vacuum for moral standards, and the
>>> superego obviously leans toward internalizing the moral standards of
>>> peers, if having NO OTHER DIRECTION. The Superego is approximately
>>> equivalent to what we call "conscience." "Conscience" is an emotional
>>> response, and the lack of "conscience" is what drives many to commit
>>> murder. Those who lack the EMOTIONAL capacity of "conscience."
>>> Such as the Nazis lack of "conscience" in the attempted extermination
>>> of European Jewry."
>>
>>Interesing comment.
>
> How would you know? You insist the Nazis didn't attempt the
> extermination of European Jewry because you can't remember if they
> did.
"You insist the Nazis didn't attempt the extermination of European Jewry "
No I didn't. Are you unable to win an argument without lying?
>
>>> None of this argues there is such a silly thing as a "natural right to
>>> life human beings have." It's religious gobbledygook. And it has no
>>> place in arguments of morals and ethics... it only has a place in
>>> various churches.
>>
>>As I said before; I am not religious. However we are born with the right
>>to
>>life because we are born.
>
> No proof offered. Your claim fails. Being born doesn't give anyone
> anything special. We are only special when we make some substantial
> contribution to the advance of our species, and thus the advance of
> evolution. This does not happen at birth, but when we do contribute
> to the advance of evolution. And then only "special" in terms of
> having made our lives either better, or more knowledgeable - providing
> shoulders for later geniuses to stand upon to make our lives even
> better. Babies are born premature and die in hours. No one gave them
> the "right to life." We abort ON DEMAND millions of viable fetuses
> and no other than me seems to give a shit about it. Liberals shout
> that "women have the right to DEMAND the killing of the viable fetus
> that lives within them," while if a women came into a doctor and
> demanded that her viable right arm be removed, she'd be taken away to
> the booby hatch. Where is that "right to life" you so proudly rave
> about? Where is it!!!
"No proof offered. Your claim fails."
An unreferenced cite is inadmissible sir.
Everything is born with the right to life because it is born.
>
>>We are born because whatever causes the
>>reproductive cycle to commence gives us that right, so the same has the
>>right do take it away; nothing else does.
>
> That's just more of your frivolous argument. You can offer absolutely
> NO SCIENTIFIC PROOF of what you insist is a FACT. I don't care what
> your "opinion," is because everyone has an "opinion." But clearly you
> cannot assert something as blissfully foolish as "a right to life,"
> for all biological life. You certainly cannot prove it... thus your
> argument is based upon your religious beliefs... and you obviously
> become a Bible-thumper. You can't say that you're not religious
> when your entire argument has a bedrock based upon religion.
> There is absolutely no SCIENTIFIC proof of your claim, thus the
> only "proof" you have is this absurd belief that your God has given
> all biological life a "right to life." Weird... totally weird.
I do not need to offer scientific proof. I already told you this is a
newsgroup and not a place of learning or a place of justice. Nothing said
here can amount to anything.
>
> I repeat again... offer some scientific proof of this "right to life"
> you presume is somehow magically given to every form of
> biological life by some "special being sitting on his throne,
> eating olives, while laughing and throwing the pits at us, and
> saying to himself -- "What fools these mortals be."
No sir. I am not religios.
>
>>> If you assert that we do have "a natural right to life," you need to
>>> prove it. I don't need to prove what is obvious - simply because
>>> murder is a common occurrence among human beings.
>>
>>"If you assert that we do have "a natural right to life," you need to
>>> prove it."
>>
>>No I don't.
>
> Then it doesn't exist. End of story. But why do you keep repeating
> my words rather than just responding to them? Good grief - you're
> one weird fruitcake.
"Then it doesn't exist"
Your logic is flawed, sir.
Truth exists despite pf proof, not because of it.
>
>>>"I don't need to prove what is obvious - simply because
>>> murder is a common occurrence among human beings"
>>
>>Your need to prove is the same as mine. In other words, it doesn't exist.
>>
> But murder is obviously the counter argument to a "right to life,"
> how can anyone take away this imaginary "right to life" if given
> to all of us by some _higher force_? Murders exist... just because
> the word "life" exists doesn't mean that the word "death" doesn't
> exist. If there is a _force_ behind what you claim then
> everyone would live for exactly the same microseconds of time.
> Since you presume such a "right to life" is given to all biological
> life. Obviously not everyone becomes a victim of murder.
> The word "common" doesn't mean "universal," with ALL
> human beings. While your argument attempts to encompass
> all biological life.
Murder is wrong therefore execution is wrong.
>
>>>>> That being said... we are talking ONLY about the U.S. death penalty.
>>>>> In the U.S., the "right to life" is not an absolute. The U.S.
>>>>> constitution clearly provides for the possibility of the death
>>>>> penalty. It does protect in the form of prohibiting "double
>>>>> jeopardy," and it does protect in the form of prohibiting "cruel and
>>>>> unusual punishment." But the death penalty per se is not considered
>>>>> "cruel and unusual punishment."
>>>>
>>>>You don't observe cooking someone alive in a chair as cruel and unusual?
>>>
>>> We don't use the electric chair any longer. Execution by electric
>>> chair is not mandatory in any state in the U.S. It is only used when
>>> the condemned demands such execution, in four states: Alabama,
>>> Florida, South Carolina and Virginia. Those states use lethal
>>> injection in every case except when the condemned demands the
>>> electric chair.
>>
>>"We don't use the electric chair any longer. Execution by electric
>>> chair is not mandatory in any state in the U.S."
>>
>>But you still have it.
>
> Because some condemned prefer it. Are we also supposed to torture
> them by not giving them the method of execution they prefer?
You pander to the whims of the condemned? Nonsense.
>
>>"It is only used when
>>> the condemned demands such execution, in four states: Alabama,
>>> Florida, South Carolina and Virginia. Those states use lethal
>>> injection in every case except when the condemned demands the
>>> electric chair.
>>"
>>
>>The lethal injection was invented by your friends, the Nazis. "Action T4"
>>it
>>was known as.
>>
>>http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&q=Action+T4&aq=f&aqi=g2&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=6584d9987ab93617
>>
> Your friends, the Nazis, used it on the Jews, and innocent people. You
> insist you don't remember the Nazis... You insist you don't
> remember the Nazis using lethal injection and gassing the Jews.
> yet here you are using them in your own self-interest, rather than
> condemning them for attempting to exterminate European Jewry. No
> wonder I find you to be a neo-Nazi. You use their same methods.
>
The Nazis are not my frinds, sir. They practice fascism, just like you. They
invented the lethal injection, sir and your people took it on.
Your people decided to benefit from the work of the nazis and not the kind
of work that can cure deseases but the kind that can kill.
>>>> You
>>>>don't see keeping them suspended under "due process" often for years at
>>>>a
>>>>time before you finally kill the poor indivual. Such is not better than
>>>>the chinese water torture only over a longer duration.
>>>
>>> Spare me your weeping for convicted murderers.
>>
>>Why? Is your conscience bothering you? I truly doubt it.
>
> If you doubt it... why do you ask? And the answer is I sleep like
> a baby when I know of the death of a brutal pedophile murderer who
> slaughtered and raped a 24-month-old child, and tortured her by
> ripping out her tiny breasts with pliers, and burning her over and
> over, before murdering her. And the reason??? He wrote in
> his notebook -- "Why do I want to degrade and humiliate children?
> Sadism...I enjoy the humiliation. Defile the innocent. Make them
> scared of sex. It's dirty. I didn't have a happy childhood, neither
> will they...Revenge."
>
" If you doubt it... why do you ask?"
Becasue there was a temporary hope that you are burned by conscience for all
your lies but I do thik that you sleep soundly at night.
> His name was Theodore Frank... the child's name was Amy Sue
> Seitz. See -
> http://www.wtv-zone.com/LadyMaggie/php/AmySueStory.html
>
> When I heard he had died on death row, after spending 23 years
> there, rather than being executed, I felt cheated and dirty...
> like the world had lost its morality. And yet... when I went to
> bed... I just feel asleep and slept like a baby... happy that such
> scum was no longer capable of breathing the same air that other
> humans breath. Society was letting him take up air... needlessly,
> for 23 years. And you lick your lips in a grotesque smug smile,
> that this murderous scum was _saved_ from execution. And
> then go and thump your Bible frantically and joyously, in honor
> of the life of Theodore Frank. While I was only thankful he
> was finally dead!!!
>
He was clearly insane. If you have a clock and it breaks. do you repair it
or throw it away?
>>>>>>That honour is
>>>>>>strictly owned by something higher than ourselves.
>>>>>
>>>>> ROTFLMAO. Who would that be? I thought you said you weren't
>>>>> religious. Now I see you thumping that Bible. Is this something
>>>>> "it" told you in a dream... or are you a prophet uttering a revelation
>>>>> from your "something higher than ourselves"? How come "it" never
>>>>> told me? Are you claiming to be "special"?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Who would that be?"
>>>>
>>>>Unknown.
>>>>
>>> Well how do you claim that "you know the unknown"? Are you claiming
>>> you're omnipotent?
>>
>>Curious.
>
> Mindless drivel.
>
"Well how do you claim that "you know the unknown"? Are you claiming you're
omnipotent?"
That certainly was.
>>>
>>>>"I thought you said you weren't religious. "
>>>>
>>>>You meant to type, "I thought you said that you're not religious. "
>>>
>>> "weren't" is more correct... since I see you thumping the Bible right
>>> now.
>>
>>No. "Aren't" is more correct in context. I do not thump the bible. I am
>>not
>>religious..
>
> You'll never convince me of that. Thus "weren't" is more correct in
> what I meant to say. You can't put words in my mouth, and argue I
> mean what I don't say. At one point you said you "weren't" religious,
> now I find that you are thumping the Bible. Your denial doesn't mean
> I don't see it in your argument.
"You'll never convince me of that"
Sir, that is your problem.
>
>>>>The "thought" is past tense, my religious status is not. That aside, you
>>>>are quite right. I am not religious.
>>>>
>>> LOL... But you claim you "know the unknown." Great Scott!!! What
>>> are next week's Lotto number???
>>
>>I made no such claim.
>
> Of course you did. You ASSERTED that there is a "right to life" for
> all biological life. And you stated exactly who gave that "right to
> life" to all biological life, in your words -- "That honour is
> strictly owned by something higher than ourselves." Well, if you
> KNOW that it is given by "something higher than ourselves,"
> then you must KNOW what that something is. But in answer
> to that you insist it is "unknown." Well, if you argue it is
> "something higher than ourselves," then you are obviously
> stating that it is "known" to you as "something higher than
> ourselves." So your argument is that it is unknown to everyone
> BUT you... while only you KNOW that it is "something higher than
> ourselves." Now how do you know that it's not the cockroach
> having given this Easter bunny "right to life" to all biological life?
> Obviously if you contend it's NOT the cockroach, then you must
> know what it is.
"Of course you did."
No I didn't.
"You ASSERTED that there is a "right to life" for
> all biological life. And you stated exactly who gave that "right to
> life" to all biological life, in your words "
Correct.
"And you stated exactly who gave that "right to
> life" to all biological life, in your words -- "That honour is
> strictly owned by something higher than ourselves."
"
Correct.
" Well, if you
> KNOW that it is given by "something higher than ourselves,"
> then you must KNOW what that something is."
your conclusion is Incorrect. No points, sir.
> Since you KNOW it is "something higher than ourselves," prove
> it is not the cockroach. Or simply prove that it is "something
> higher than ourselves," since that's nothing but a "mental
> abstraction" your mind invented, since even you insist it is
> "unknown." If it's "unknown" to YOU, then how can you
> KNOW that it "something higher than ourselves"?
>
> quod erat demonstrandum: There is no "something higher
> than ourselves," who has given this magical "right to life" to
> all biological life. It's hogwash. It's your religion imagination
> run amok.
You're guessing, sir.
>
>>>>"Now I see you thumping that Bible"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I gave no mention to Jehovah or to any particular diety nor did a give
>>>>reference to any particular doctrined or derivatives thereof. Therefor
>>>>your term, "Thumping the bible" is another one of your innacurate
>>>>assertions
>>>
>>> Well then... I guess it's just the peyote you're on that's talking,
>>> when you start raving about "knowing the unknown."
>>
>>Your desperation appears to be growing in a logarithmic scale.
>
> Sonny, you don't know a logarithmic scale from a horse's ass.
A curious comment considering that you nothing about my education.
You are ignorant sir. As ignorant in theology as you are in all other
matters.
>
>>"Obviously the argument of some God-like
>>> force that gives humans special consideration among all the beasts
>>> and the animals, granting humans a "universal right to life," that
>>> no other animal or beast enjoys, is based upon religious beliefs.
>>> Since scientifically no such "human right to life exists." And if it
>>> can't be _scientifically proven_ then it's religious hogwash to claim
>>> it exists despite the lack of _scientific proof_. You might as well
>>> argue the existence of the Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy.
>>> "
>>
>>If you wish to discuss theology then there are many such newgroups
>>available
>>for that area. There are also many Athiesm ones but they wouldn't interest
>>you. You would have no'one to argue with.
>
> You're the one arguing the "something higher than ourselves," but
> is "unknown." What the hell is that all about if not religious
> claptrap?
It's the unknown, sir.
>
>>>>>> Executing someone for
>>>>>>murder is stating that we don't stand by our own values regarding
>>>>>>homicide.
>>>>>>I have no stomach for such attitudes.
>>>>>
>>>>> No one asked you. Your personal feelings did not protect Colleen
>>>>> Reed. She was abducted from a car wash, and tortured and raped
>>>>> the entire night by Kenneth McDuff, who then stated that he would
>>>>> "use her up," in murdering her with as much torture as possible.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"No one asked you"
>>>>
>>>>Irrelevent. I shall speak out regardless as have many before me and as
>>>>shall
>>>>many succeeding me.
>>>
>>> I'm well aware that you're speaking in support of the murder of
>>> Colleen Reed, and for the _salvation_ (hallelujah) of Kenneth McDuff.
>>
>>No you are not.
>
> The willingness to accept responsibility for what one supports is the
> source from which all self-respect springs. Earn some self-respect
> and see yourself for the religious fruitcake you are. Then think for
> yourself and examine the world around you, and realize that one of
> the most foolish of thoughts is that biological life on earth is
> somehow graced with "the right to life," when nature shows us
> quite a different face. There is still time... you are still a child.
> You have much to learn... grasshopper.
Responsibilty of a murder belongs to the mrderer. The resposibility of
reeing a madman belongs to those who freed him.
>
>>>>" Your personal feelings did not protect Colleen Reed"
>>>>
>>>>And neither did your death penalty!
>>>>
>>> That's because it wasn't used. Had it been used as originally
>>> decided by 12 honest citizens, Colleen Reed would be alive today.
>>> You can't blame the death penalty when the fact is not using
>>> the death penalty (a position you support) is what resulted in
>>> the murder of Colleen Reed, and some others. A sentence of
>>> life (a sentence you support rather than the death penalty) is
>>> what permitted Kenneth McDuff to murder Colleen Reed, and
>>> some others.
>>
>>"That's because it wasn't used"
>>
>>Irrelevant. You death penatly does not deter. You kill one, another takes
>>his place. Your death penalty increases the corpse count.
>
> Tell that to Colleen Reed. Oh, wait... you can't... she was murdered
> by the guy you support not having been executed. Talk about your
> Schadenfreude... it looks like you enjoy knowing Kenneth McDuff wasn't
> executed and was left to kill Colleen Reed.
No, sir I'm "telling that" to you.
>>>
>>>>> Kenneth McDuff had already been sentenced to death prior to
>>>>> his abducting Colleen Reed, but had his death penalty sentence
>>>>> overturned by the Supreme Court when the Supreme Court ruled
>>>>> that the death penalty as presently created in statutes was "cruel
>>>>> and unusual" in Furman v. Georgia, resulting in the release from the
>>>>> death penalty of hundreds of capital murderers. Kenneth McDuff was
>>>>> then released and continued his spree of murders, none of which would
>>>>> have happened had the feelings of 12 citizens been honored. See --
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_McDuff
>>>>
>>>>Then you put the man away in a mental institution, sir. Kenneth McDuff
>>>>was
>>>>obviously insane.
>>>
>>> Wrong. You don't have the slightest idea of the legal and psychiatric
>>> definition of insane. You're out of your league, "my good fellow."
>>
>>Curios. You don't have the slightest idea of what I have knowledge of, my
>>dear fellow and further more, it does not take a psychiatrist to know that
>>psyche of a serial killer is not that of a healthy mind.
>
> When you argue that Kenneth McDuff was "obviously insane," that is
> proof positive that "you don't have the slightest idea of the legal
> and psychiatric definition of insane."
Serial killing 14 people is not sane behaviour, sir.
"you don't have the slightest idea of the "
You are not qualified to state what I know, sir.
Kenneth McDuff fits the psychiatric definitions of insane. only your warped
culture would argue that he doesn't fit the legal one.
>
>>"You're out of your league, "my good fellow.""
>>
>>More puerile conjecture.
>
> TRANSLATION "More puerile conjecture."
>
>>>
>>>>> How's it feel to have supported the murder of Colleen Reed to
>>>>> save the life of Kenneth McDuff?
>>>>
>>>>We oppose the death penalty.
>>>
>>> You and who else?
>>
>>Those of us whom oppose the death penalty.
>>
> Why do you oppose the death penalty for murderers who are none of your
> concern, since they threaten citizens of the U.S. rather than citizens
> of the Netherlands? I'll bet you weep for the murderer of Theo van
> Gogh. But that is your concern. I don't care if you throw that
> murderer a parade, and a week with that gorgeous coffee girl who
> pushed around a coffee cart in a bank in Rotterdam, 36 years ago.
>
Your comment is more puerile xenophobia, dear fellow. America concerns
itself what other contries are doing so it is only just for other countries
to concern themselves with what America is doing.
> Why do you stick your nose in what is no concern of your regarding an
> internal affairs issue of the U.S.? Clearly such concern can only
> have a religious foundation. Plus you think you're BETTER than
> Americans who make decisions about murderers in their country... not
> yours. This goes right along with my argument that you see yourself
> as "superior" to other humans, rather than the childish snot that you
> are. It's all part of your belief in an "Aryan nation concept" where
> you considers Americans to be uncivilized and immoral. Yet our dead
> stand witness to the fact that we had to rescue your sick ass from
> conquerors... not once... but twice in one century... See --
> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/those_who_stayed_behind.jpg
> You ungrateful swine. Without us... you'd be speaking German.
You country sticks it's nose into what doesn't concern them. You cannot
complain when others do it back at you.
>
>>>> We do not oppose incarceration of the insane.
>>>
>>> You and who else?
>>
>>Those of us whom oppose the death penalty.
>
> Why do you oppose the death penalty for murderers who are none of your
> concern, since they threaten citizens of the U.S. rather than citizens
> of the Netherlands? I'll bet you weep for the murderer of Theo van
> Gogh. But that is your concern. I don't care if you throw that
> murderer a parade, and a week with that gorgeous coffee girl who
> pushed around a coffee cart in a bank in Rotterdam, 36 years ago.
>
You have already said this, sir so your comment was redindent.
> Why do you stick your nose in what is no concern of your regarding an
> internal affairs issue of the U.S.? Clearly such concern can only
> have a religious foundation. Plus you think you're BETTER than
> Americans who make decisions about murderers in their country... not
> yours. This goes right along with my argument that you see yourself
> as "superior" to other humans, rather than the childish snot that you
> are. It's all part of your belief in an "Aryan nation concept" where
> you considers Americans to be uncivilized and immoral. Yet our dead
> stand witness to the fact that we had to rescue your sick asses from
> conquerors... not once... but twice in one century... See --
> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/those_who_stayed_behind.jpg
> You ungrateful swine. Without us... you'd be speaking German.
"we had to rescue your sick asses from conquerors"
You did not, sir?
>
>>>
>>>> If your government released on obvious madman into a situation where he
>>>> is going to kill again then the fault is that of your government. Do
>>>> not try
>>>>to blame us for your mistakes.
>>>
>>> Do not try to stop me from blaming you for your mistake of protecting
>>> the life of Kenneth McDuff, so he could murder... and murder... and
>>> murder... some say at least 16 times after his release from a death
>>> sentence because you opposed that death sentence.
>>
>>You do not have the authority to apportion blame. Your govenrment released
>>him.
>>
> You supported it, by opposing his execution as it was originally
> ordered by 12 honest citizens in an open court.
Not his release, we didn't, sir.
>>>
>>> How do you live with yourself, knowing your responsibility for the
>>> murder of Colleen Reed??? Why don't you keep your nose out of
>>> U.S. internal affairs? I don't mind those who complain about actions
>>> the U.S. takes in her foreign affairs... but it's unseemly for you to
>>> running your mouth off about what the U.S. does with her murderers.
>>> Why not worry about the genocide of six million Jews that Europe
>>> was responsible for?
>>
>>"How do you live with yourself, knowing your responsibility for the
>>> murder of Colleen Reed??? "
>>
>>I have no such responsibilty.
>
> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
Your unreferenced site is inadmissable.
>
>>Kenneth McDuff killed her after your goverment
>>released him. It is evidence where that bombshell lays but your ego won't
>>let you see it. That is such a tragic pity.
>
> So you support all convicted murderers receiving L wop (life without
> parole), without exception. How very primal and barbaric... worse
> than a humane execution... especially for an innocent who must
> spend his entire life in prison, living with those only a hairbreadth
> from animals, knowing he is innocent. Death row is much more
> humane than that. Death row saved the life of Theodore Frank,
> because in the general prison population, with other prisoners
> always knowing the crime another has committed, Theodore
> Frank would not have lived a single year. He would have been
> murdered in some laundry room in the prison, or stabbed with
> a shank in the prison yard.
" How very primal and barbaric... worse
> than a humane execution"
Hello. pot. Hello, pot. This is kettle calling. Can I have a colour check
please?
>
>>> Why not find a hobby, or watch Bambi, instead of whining for
>>> U.S. murderers?
>>
>>I have several. One of them is enjoying a good comedy. Your posts provide
>>that for me, dear fellow.
>>
> I haven't seen you laugh. All I've seen is you repeating my comments
> and then denying... and denying... and denying... Yet the evidence is
> clear... in the very comments of mine that you repeat.
>
"I haven't seen you laugh"
Of course you haven't dear fellow. You haven't seen me.
J
>
> Planet Visitor II
> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/dictionary.html
>
>
> "Si l'on veut abolir la peine de mort en ce cas, que MM. les
> assassins commencent." -- Alphonse Karr, Les Gu�pes, 1840
>
>>J
Yes there is, my dear imbecile.
>
>>>>No, dear fellow. The wording structure remained static.
>>>
>>> Nothing that changes has remained "static." Chee... but you remain
>>> incredibly paedomorphic. One might argue you are statically
>>> paedomorphic.
>>
>>You were probably waiting for a long periodic to use that word, which
>>doublessly you stumbled on and had to feed you pretentious ego with it.
>
> Actually you will find I've used it about 63 times in my posting
> history to describe those who act just as you do.
I made no mention of when you found it. Dear fellow.
>
>>Puerile. With all sincerity I am convinced that you are not 78 years old.
>>Your mind is dull, unfocused and your arguments are childish.
>
> I suspect in real life you are a rather lonely 17-year-old Dutch boy,
> who is a virgin, afraid of the opposite sex, pimply and overweight,
> has no friends, lacks even moderate athletic abilities, is considered
> weird by his schoolmates, lives on junk food, spends an
> excessive amount of time surfing porn and White Power sites,
> and is so overly-mothered it's creepy.
You already said that.
>
> I suspect you do average in school since you don't appear to be
> retarded to me, but you certainly have deep psychological issues, and
> an inability to relate to others when speaking in your mother-tongue,
> thus you struggle along making mistake after mistake in the English
> language, boring us in AADP, showing a political philosophy based upon
> a belief in your "Aryan superiority," that you've never "seen a Black
> person," and a refusal to accept that the extermination of six million
> Jews in the 20th Century actually happened. In addition to arguing
> that you do remember "the Crusades," "WW II," and "the Greeks." Just
> what do you remember about the Greeks? Try to impress me with your
> knowledge of Aeschylus. Do you remember even one of his plays?
> Can you name even one of his plays? Do you remember what Crusade
> was led by Richard the Lionheart? No fair using Google now!!
You already said that.
"Do you remember what Crusade
> was led by Richard the Lionheart?"
No sir. I wan't there.
>
> However, I can prove my creds. As I've had to do more than once
> when confronted with an immature uneducated youth. See -
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/birth_certificate.jpg
> Born Feb 1, 1932.
>
> My University of Maryland Bachelor's degree. Magna Cum Laude --
> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Maryland.jpg
>
> My Boston University Master's degree
> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Boston.jpg
>
> My Boston University Master's degree transcript. All A's, 1 B.
> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/Transcript.jpg
>
> My Military Retirement Certificate after 20 years in the U.S. Military
> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Retirement.jpg
>
> I have blocked out various personal information such as
> my Social Security Number.
>
> Now let's see YOUR proof, if you're not afraid.
>
>
> *death silence*
You said all that alread, sir. What a poor memory you must have.
>
>>>>It was amended with
>>>>a predicate but that aside, there is no harm in such a practice.
>>>
>>> It was amended with a change in subject. Changing the word "murderer"
>>> to "children who commit crime." That's an entirely different set of
>>> parameters to examine. All I did was point out that the SCOTUS
>>> ruling had NOTHING to do with children who commit murder. I
>>> doubt you even read the article itself, but found yourself locked up
>>> trying to defend your initial ignorance.
>>>
>>Your doubts are of no concern to me. Your mentallity is hollow and cannot
>>affect me. Iweep for anyone it can affect.
>
> It you think the whining of a 17-year-old mother's boy bothers me
> you're sadly mistaken, punk.
You're guessing, dear fellow.
>
>>> A. Do you admit the original article had nothing to do with
>>> "murderers"?
>>> B. Do you see that your comment was offered in respect to
>>> "murderers"?
>>> Do you see that B has nothing to do... absolutely nothing to do...
>>> with A?
>>>
>>
>>Do you admit that you are a child?
>
> TRANSLATION "Do you admit that you are a child?."
>
> But I asked you first, and logically one cannot answer a question with
> a question.
That you are a child? Yes, I admit that you are a child.
It is therefor obvious that your career plans no more involve electrical
engineering than they do law or anything to do with the English language.
>
>>Perhaps the use of caps will help you around your obvious learning
>>difficulty.
>
> You can't prove your silly argument. How long has it been since
> you were weaned? Answer the question, without using a question.
> Bet you can't do it.
I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything.
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-knee-jerk-reaction.htm
>>It's your
>>arrogance that pushes to to actually rewrite the word.
>
> You're the one having rewritten the word to suit your own childish
> ego, while having absolutely no proof of your argument. The
> only use of "static" in describing any word is "electrical or acoustic
> activity that can disturb communication." And you try that
> with just about every word you offer. Words either convey the
> meaning of an "object," thus "objective,' or they convey the
> meaning of a "mental abstraction," thus "subjective."
>
Nonsense. I use "Static" in a correct context.
>>> In fact, I do not redefine definitions. I use them as weapons to
>>> crush idiots like you, who have little knowledge of the English
>>> language, and thus distort words in a biased effort to twist to your
>>> own sick agenda.
>>
>>"In fact, I do not redefine definitions."
>>You repeatidly and deliberately misuse dictionary definition regardless of
>>that you have cobnsulted a dictionary but you change them anyway.
>
> I put the definitions up... and you simply ignore them as if they do
> not exist. How can I possibly deal with someone who speaks gibberish,
> and insists the English language is made as he desires to make it, not
> as it actually exists?
>
You change them, sir.
>>"I use them as weapons to crush idiots like you, who have little knowledge
>>of the English language"
>>
>>Then you hold the sword by the blade sir and cut of your own fingers in
>>the
>>attempt. Your practice is done because you cannot win your argument and
>>thus
>>your resort to xenophobia but it backfired on you where I am concerned as
>>I
>>suspect it has with many before me.
>>
> ROTFLMAO. You're sick, son. Ask your mommy to make an appointment
> with the nearest psychiatrist. Plus look up the definition of
> "xenophobia," since it has nothing to do with this argument. In point
> of fact you suffer from eisoptrophobia.... A fear of examining your
> own inner hate and rage for one so young, in fearing to look into
> mirrors, and see yourself as others see you.
"mommy" is that an American word?
"Xenophobia is the uncontrollable fear of foreigners.[1] It comes from the
Greek words ????? (xenos), meaning "stranger," "foreigner" and ?????
(phobos), meaning "fear." Xenophobia can manifest itself in many ways
involving the relations and perceptions of an ingroup towards an outgroup,
including a fear of losing identity, suspicion of its activities,
aggression, and desire to eliminate its presence to secure a presumed
purity.[2] Xenophobia can also be exhibited in the form of an "uncritical
exaltation of another culture" in which a culture is ascribed "an unreal,
stereotyped and exotic quality".["
Cite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia
Wikpedia.
accessed: 27/05/10.
I was correct as always, dear sir. the word "Xenophobia" was perfectly
germane to my argument.
>
> Clearly just one psychiatrist would not be enough in your case. You're
> a case for a textbook to be written about nothing but your mental
> aberrations. You need an entire wing at the best psychiatric hospital
> in Vienna, Austria, accompanied by an around the clock team of the
> best psychiatric minds in the world examining nothing but your case.
>
Puerile.
Your response lacks logical flow, sir.
>>> You're not happy merely assassinating the English language, you
>>> want to crucify it before murdering it.
>>
>>Another one of your puerile response.
>
> Another one of your mindless drivel responses. Is "puerile" a
> new word you've discovered?
Puerile.
Xenophobe.
>
> Obviously -- IF YOU ARE CONVICTED you have committed a
> crime. Thus that is not "homicide." Being convicted of a crime
> associated with homicide automatically makes it at least manslaughter.
> No indictment for a crime reads "homicide." It is a medical
> term, not a legal term referring to the way a person has died. He
> has been killed by another person, while whether it was legal or not,
> is an entirely different can of worms. See --
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide
> Quote -- "Homicide is not always an illegal act."
>
In Britain, a person can go to prison for killing in self defense. They
generally do.
> Manslaughter, however, is a crime... Homicide is NOT a crime,
> unless it is determined that a crime was committed. Self-defense
> is not a crime, and no killing that is determined by the state
> prosecutor as self-defense is a crime.
In Britain, killing a person in self defence is manslaughter and
manslaughter is a crime. Very few avoid a custodial sentence.
You answer questions that were not asked and you refer to American law.
>
>>> You really are an amateur when it comes to the law.
>>
>>By that, you mean that I do not practice law in any professional sense.
>
> No... it means you don't know shit about the law. <full stop>
I disagree.
" <full stop>". But you're an American. Surely you mean "period".
>
>> That
>>is correct but that is beside the point. The law differs depending on what
>>country you reside in. I do not know american law and you so evidently do
>>not know British law. I am quite sure that the laws on plagiarism and
>>citing
>>are similar in both countries. Are you unfamilier with these laws?
>
> LOL... You really need to grow up, kid. Are you familiar with
> Nihilism? You certainly use it to deny the existence of things that
> you either fear or hate or are ignorant about. Such as denial of
> the Holocaust.. denial of knowing what a "Black person" is...
> denial of the English language when it suits you.... denial
> of your psychological problems... etc... etc... etc...
The question was, "I am quite sure that the laws on plagiarism and citing
are similar in both countries. Are you unfamilier with these laws?"
"
>
>>>
Yes I did, you imbecile.
>
>>>"Homicide does not necessarily
>>> involve deliberation. But it can. Deliberation under the law
>>> is a very complex issue. There can be deliberation in homicide,
>>> and manslaughter, and murder. While there be a lack of
>>> deliberation in homicide and manslaughter. Murder must show
>>> deliberation. Why is this so hard for you to grasp??? Is the
>>> retention of facts really that difficult for you.
>>
>>You seem to spend a lot of time answering questions that nobody asked them
>>reprimanding them for not knowing the answer and this is without the
>>courtesy of bothering to find out if they do know the answer. Puerile
>
> Heh... tough shit, kid. You're the ignoramus who insisted "If a
> person deliberatly (sic) kills another then it is murder."
"Heh... tough shit, kid."
Only on you, dear fellow. Such exposes your stupidity.
>
>>> There is no mention of homicide being "legal" or "illegal." The only
>>> way that manslaughter and homicide can be considered synonyms is
>>> if one prefaces the word "homicide," with the word "illegal."
>>> "illegal homicide" can be either manslaughter or murder. "legal
>>> homicide," is considered justifiable homicide, and it includes the
>>> legal death penalty, killing in clear self-defense, and various other
>>> cases in which society determines the killing was necessary, such as a
>>> sniper killing a terrorist who has taken hostages and threatens to
>>> murder them.
>>>
>>> Homicide is the ONLY term that can be used to describe a legal
>>> killing. And it usually needs an adjective to state whether it was
>>> "legal" or "illegal." But lacking that adjective it is considered
>>> "legal" because it lacks the definition of "illegal."
>>
>>For one that redefines so many terms to suit yourself, your hipocrisy is
>>nothing short of ironic.
>
> You're the only one "redefining" terms, such as calling a word
> "static." And claiming that "If a person deliberatly (sic) kills
> another then it is murder."
>
Your guessing, sir. the least you can do is to look up the word, "static".
You can do that can you?
Was that when you last did any?
" Probably before your parents were born. And it's "algorithms." I
> was working with slide rules, rather than calculators, before you were
> born. I could eat you up and spit you out. "
A curious comment considering that you know nothing about my education.
>
> Nor do I have to consult wikipedia to know what mens rea and actus
> reus mean. But obviously you had to look it up.
"Nor do I have to consult wikipedia to know what mens rea and actus
> reus mean."
What you are saying to me is that you did not do any research. This explains
why you get so many words wrong. I suggest you buy a dictionary, sir.
"But obviously you had to look it up."
At some point I did, yes. It's called research. It's how most people learn
words which is considerably more than your method of guessing them, dear
fellow.
>
>>>>>>The age of the
>>>>>>criminal makes the crime any less real.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Errr... what are you trying to say??? The age of the criminal DOES
>>>>> NOT make the crime any less real.
>>>>
>>>>Yes.
>>>
>>> That isn't what you wrote, stupid. I was correcting your comment.
>>
>>I know, stupid. You did not correct the comment, you copied it and
>>corrected
>>the copy.
>
> Right... thanks for agreeing with me. I was correcting your comment.
You are so in need of attention that you beg just once for someone to agree
with you. How lonely you must be. Regretably you were not correcting my
comment, you were correcting your copy of my comment. without a proper cite.
""
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> In any case, the criminal justice system is not based 100% on
>>>>>>> punishment, but on public safety, and rehabilitation as well, and a
>>>>>>> child has a much greater capacity to be possibly rehabilitated then
>>>>>>> does a hardened adult life-time criminal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The death penalty is purly for public revenge and nothing more.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong. Every criminal statute in the U.S. qualifies the death penalty
>>>>> as an instrument of public safety, where it exists in criminal
>>>>> statutes. That is the bedrock purpose of a criminal justice system,
>>>>> other than those such as Islamic Sharia. Punishment is simply
>>>>> considers a means to create better public safety. The death penalty
>>>>> is simply another punishment in the U.S. criminal justice system.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Nonsence.
>>>
>>> No proof offered your claim fails. BTW -- your answer is "nonsense."
>>
>>Cite please.
>
> Sure. See --
> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/nonsense
> "Nonsense" -- "Words or signs having no intelligible meaning."
You posted only one and you did that one wrong.
It has been a while since you've been in education I'd wager.
.
You posted only one cite and you did that one wrong.
>
>>" If we had a perfect justice
>>> system we would not convict the innocent, and we would never
>>> permit an innocent to die in prison.
>>
>>You do not have a perfect justice system.
>
> That's because there is no such thing as "a perfect justice system."
This is an strong argument fo the abolishment of the death penalty.
>
>>>"And yet, both of those happen
>>> rather routinely. While there is no evidence that an innocent has
>>> been executed since the death penalty was reinstated 30 years ago,
>>> in Gregg v. Georgia. We accept the fact that we will make mistakes
>>> in the criminal justice system because it is impossible to be
>>> absolutely sure of guilt. That is why we have the standard of "beyond
>>> a reasonable doubt." If we had no standard at all, or a standard
>>> which demanded absolute proof of guilt who could convict no one.
>>> And the guilty would laugh in our face and continue their murderous
>>> rampage.
>>"
>>
>>You said it yourself, " If we had a perfect justice system". You then
>>accept that you do not? An imperfect justice system should not include the
>>death penalty
>
> Why not? You accept that the innocent die in prison... so what's the
> difference in accepting a death penalty that is mathematically
> impossible to be absolutely perfect? If you wish to stop every
> innocent from ever dying in prison you have to argue abolishing
> the justice system... not the death penalty... which has so far
> provided no evidence of an innocent being executed.. while
> innocents die every day in prison, and you don't care about THEM!
>
"Why not?"
Becasue the justice system is imperfect, dear fellow.
>> and a perfect justice system would not include the death
>>penalty.
>
> Once again arguing from a false premise... there is no such thing
> as "a perfect justice system." Innocents are convicted probably
> every day in some court somewhere in the U.S. Shall we let
> all the criminals remain free because of the chance of an innocent
> dying in prison? Or do you argue abolish the U.S. criminal
> justice system and let the criminals continue on their way.
My premise is quite correct. If there were a perfect justice system it would
not have a death penalty Any imperfect justice system which includes all off
them should not inclde a death penalty.
>
>>>>You can deceive yourself if you desire
>>>>with your "reason for the death penalty being exclusively public safety"
>>>>nonsense if you choose but you cannot deceive me with it. Your death
>>>>penalty
>>>>is to satisfy the public's lust for blood.
>>>
>>> You're the one deceiving yourself. I have proof. See --
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/doublemurderers.htm
>>> Here are just a few of the murderers who appear well qualified for
>>> the death penalty before they managed to be sentenced to life in
>>> prison instead, and after that still went on murderous rampages.
>>> Further, of 3,258 previously convicted murderers who were released
>>> 6.6% or about 215 of them were recidivist for another murder. See -
>>> http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr83.pdf
>>
>>You people can't get anything right can you? You either pop them or let
>>them
>>go.
>
> Nonetheless... they also kill fellow prisoners and guards. Are you
> claiming that fellow prisoners and guards who are murdered by
> murderers are _expendable_ to protect the lives of those who murder
> them?
I oppose the death penalty sir, which includes guards and fellow prisoners.
>
>>>
>>>>>> The retentionists use public safety as an excuse to justify
>>>>>> execution. If
>>>>>>not there would be fewer executions as so many of those on death row
>>>>>>can be
>>>>>>rehabilitaed
>>>>>
>>>>> No proof offered. Your claim fails. How come these murderers could
>>>>> not be rehabilitated? ==
>>>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/doublemurderers.htm
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Is that really your best argument? I truly hope not.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So those innocent victims are irrelevant to you. That's your best
>>> argument. Victims don't matter... as long as you can whine for
>>> the lives of their murderers.
>>
>>Your arguments lack logical flow.
>
> TRANSLATION: "Your arguments lack logical flow."
J
<clipped death disco going into a death spiral in English>
>"Now answer me one question -- What is your mother-tongue???
> Since it's now obvious that it is not English."
>
>This is none of your fucking business, dear Sir.
Heh... looks like you're growing angry, laddie. I must have struck
a nerve, in describing you as "Dutch, with a dingleberry hanging from
your ass because of your unhygienic paedomorphic habits."
<clipped>
No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>>>> English isn't your mother-tongue is it?
>>>
>>>No. but it's still better than yours.
>>>
>> Gee... who was it that said "self-praise is no praise at all"? Oh,
>> wait... that was you just about two paragraphs back.
>
>It wasn't praise. Do you need to look that word up too? Your English suffers
>severe flaws, sir.
You're the one who needs to look it up, sport.
>> Bet you're Dutch, with a dingleberry hanging from your ass because
>> of your unhygienic paedomorphic habits. You're certainly
>> not Italian... I am almost mother-tongue fluent in Italian having
>> learned most of it before I was 14, and then taking it as my
>> minor in college. You're not French... my wife is mother-tongue
>> French, born and raised in Paris... so I can do very well in
>> the French spoken language, and good enough in the written
>> language. You're not German... I spent 20 years in Germany,
>> and can keep up a fairly good conversation, because people
>> tend to overlook grammatical mistakes in respect to "der" "die"
>> "das" gender notation and case endings when speaking, although
>> my written German could use a lot of work, for which I do not
>> have time, and no longer have the drive I once had. I don't think
>> you're Spanish or Portuguese. Nor from the former East bloc.
>> And since you mention the U.K., but English is not your mother-tongue,
>> that only leaves the Netherlands.
>
>Why are you so curious regarding my country of origin?
Hey, you're the one who began insulting me by insisting I wasn't who
I said I was... claiming I wasn't actually 78-years-old. I still
haven't seen you apologize for that smart-Alec smear tactic.
>> So I suspect that in real life you are a rather lonely 17-year-old
>> Dutch boy, who is a virgin, afraid of the opposite sex, pimply and
>> overweight, has no friends, lacks even moderate athletic abilities, is
>> considered weird by his schoolmates, lives on junk food, spends an
>> excessive amount of time surfing porn and White Power sites,
>> and is so overly-mothered it's creepy.
>
>Suspect all you choose, my dear friend. I have no liability to identify
>myself to you.
TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
I wasn't what he found me to be so I could show he is not correct,
but the bastard hit the nail right on the head."
>> I suspect you do average work in school since you don't appear to
>> be retarded to me, but you certainly have deep psychological issues,
>> and an inability to relate to others when speaking in your
>> mother-tongue, thus you struggle along making mistake after mistake in
>> the English language, boring us in AADP, showing a political
>> philosophy based upon a belief in your "Aryan superiority," that
>> you've never "seen a Black person," and a refusal to accept that the
>> extermination of six million Jews in the 20th Century actually
>> happened. In addition to arguing that you do remember "the Crusades,"
>> "WW II," and "the Greeks." Just what do you remember about the
>> Greeks? Try to impress me with your knowledge of Aeschylus. Do you
>> remember even one of his plays? Can you name even one of his plays? Do
>> you remember what Crusade was led by Richard the Lionheart? No fair
>> using Google now!!
>
>My turn now, dear sir. I suspect that the only trutheful comment you made in
>this newsgroup is your age.
Oh, so now you admit that your attempt to smear was a disgusting lie.
It's about time.
<clip further attempts to smear PV>
>> However, I can prove my creds. As I've had to do more than once
>> when confronted with an immature uneducated youth. See -
>>
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/birth_certificate.jpg
>> Born Feb 1, 1932.
>>
>> My University of Maryland Bachelor's degree. Magna Cum Laude --
>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Maryland.jpg
>>
>> My Boston University Master's degree
>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Boston.jpg
>>
>> My Boston University Master's degree transcript. All A's, 1 B.
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/Transcript.jpg
>>
>> My Military Retirement Certificate after 20 years in the U.S. Military
>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Retirement.jpg
>>
>> I have blocked out various personal information such as
>> my Social Security Number.
>>
>> Now let's see YOUR proof, if you're not afraid.
>>
>
>This is where we differ. You feel obliged to prove yourself. I do not.
Heh... TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
I wasn't what he found me to be so I could show he is not correct,
but the bastard hit the nail right on the head."
>> *deathly silence*
>>
>
>Curious. You were anything but silent.
While you curiously remained *deathly silent*.
<clipped whining>
>I am not a religious person, sir.. I beleive the correct word is "agnostic"
Wrong again. Your words in respect to who gives all biological
life a "right to life." --> "That honour is strictly owned by
something higher than ourselves." Anyone who believes in a
power "higher than ourselves," who is responsible for giving
all biological life a "right to life" is not an agnostic, but a
Bible-thumper.
You really need to study definitions of words in the English
language rather than just throwing them around helter-skelter
having no idea what they mean. See --
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/agnostic
You are NOT "One who believes that it is impossible to know
whether there is a God," since you insist upon believing in this
"something higher than ourselves."
You are NOT "One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does
not profess true atheism." Since you are not skeptical at all about
your belief in this "something higher than ourselves."
And you are NOT "One who is doubtful or noncommittal about something."
Since you are a BELIEVER in this "something higher than ourselves."
Thus by every definition you are not an agnostic. You're a
Bible-thumper... pure and simple. Believing in some "power"
or "force" that began the creation of our universe in no way
argues or shows that such a "power" or "force" cares about biological
life on this rather insignificant planet. Thus you are not even
a deist. You suffer from delusional hallucinations in thinking this
"something higher than ourselves" has been talking to you directly.
>> But talking about egos... you insist that the Holocaust never
>> happened, because you can't remember it happening. Sport... need
>> I tell you that you do not remember a lot of things that you
>> experienced? You experienced being pulled out of your mommy's
>> vagina... but I'm sure you don't remember it. And yet that happened
>> only 17 years ago.
>>>>It's
>>>> not your fault... nature just did you dirty.
>>>
>>>Had nature "done me dirty" I would have been born as you.
>>>
>> Awww.... now I've gone and pissed you off... quit your bitching
>> and admit that your argument had nothing to do with the original
>> argument that "Supreme Court limits life sentences without parole for
>> young criminals." Since if you even bothered to read the reference
>> given you would have seen that it specifically EXCLUDES children
>> who commit murder. Yet you immediately knee-jerked and stated
>> exactly the opposition of the referenced article, by raving "Why? Are
>> the murderers' victims any less dead because the murderer is
>> "young"? Is the crime any less severe because the criminal is
>> "Young"?" Which sounded like you're in FAVOR of the death
>> penalty for children who murder. Looks like you're more in favor
>> of the death penalty than I am.
>>
>
>You sound very angry, dear fellow. Do you like getting angry? Do you feel
>alive when you do?
LOL... I see your anger... and you say that seeing your anger makes me
sound very angry. You're a very sick lad... hie yourself to the
nearest psychiastrist... seek help immediately.
>> You're the one who brought it up, if you care to pay attention to
>> the thread. I simply called your bluff in this fantasy of a "right
>> to life," nonsense. And since you made the assertion, you have
>> to prove it. I'd really like to see you prove there is a God-given
>> "right to life" for all biological life. If it's irrelevant...
>> why do you blab on and on about it? I think you now call
>> it "irrelevant," because you realize just how frivolous and
>> scatterbrained is a claim that all biological life has been granted
>> this _special treatment_ by some clown with a halo on "it's"
>> head, sitting on a cloud, with lightening bolts coming out of
>> "it's" eye-sockets.
>
>All biology has a birth given right to life.
Who says? You need to prove what you say... rather than using
the word "obvious," because there is no such thing as an axiom
which proves "biology," is anything other than what the word
defines. And in that definition there is not a single mention in
any dictionary about "biology" being the source of a "right to
life." Only the Bible satisfies your argument... thus you're a
Bible-thumper.
>It is not for us to proportion
>it. We are not gods.
>
Yet you hold yourself up as a God, proclaiming you know something
that no one else (other than other Bible-thumpers) knows.
>>
>>>>> We are born so we are given the right to life. It is
>>>>>not for us to say who can keep that right to life and who can't.
>>>>
>>>> You're thumping that Bible again. We are born because our
>>>> parents engaged in procreation, as all animal life does. Do you
>>>> think a cockroach has "a right to life"? Aren't all cockroaches
>>>> "born"? Why are we better than a cockroach, unless you believe
>>>> in the Bible? We are here because the universe has laws that permit
>>>> the evolution of biological life if environmental conditions are
>>>> suitable on a planet such as earth, and if a source of energy,
>>>> called the sun in our solar system, lasts long enough for biological
>>>> life to arise and evolve. We are a species of biological life... no
>>>> different than other biological life, other than we have an advanced
>>>> intelligence gained through evolution, which enables us to
>>>> scientifically examine how we are here, and philosophically wonder why
>>>> we are here. While at this stage in our evolution we have a very
>>>> rudimentary moral and ethical superego, with each of us having a
>>>> different degree of such morals and ethics. Including some who
>>>> believe it is moral and ethical to hate or even kill their fellow man
>>>> for one concocted reason or another.
>>>
>>>Impossible. as I said, I am not religious.
Saying it, and proving you're not are two different things. Since
there is absolute evidence of your claim that "something higher
than ourselves," has told you personally that "it" gave all biological
life an Easter Bunny "right to life."
>> Of course you're religious... you think we're special... and that's
>> the same preaching that comes from the Bible and the church.
>> Sonny... we are no more special than a speck of sand in the entire
>> ocean and beaches. There is no such thing as a "right to life"
>> that was given us by some imaginary God. Yet that is your
>> argument. Yes, my boy... it's loopy Bible-thumping.
>>
>
>No, sir. I am not religious.
>
No proof offered. Your claim fails. Certainly you've insisted
"That honour is strictly owned by something higher than ourselves."
You've tried to argue it is "biology," and it is "nature," yet neither
of those words convey a meaning of a "right to life," in any
definition in the English language. Yet you insist there is that
"something higher than ourselves" that you hold up and venerate as
some personal "God" of your own. See --
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/biology
and
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/nature
Guess what? Neither definition even contains the word "right."
>
>>>"We are born because our
>>> parents engaged in procreation, as all animal life does. Do you
>>> think a cockroach has "a right to life"?""
>>>
>>>The cycle of nature gave us right to life. The same cycle gave the
>>>cochroach the right to life.
>>
>> ROTFLMAO. Now "cockroaches" have a "right to life." One female
>> cockroach can produce two million offspring in one year. An average
>> breeding session produces 35,0000 offspring. If cockroaches had
>> a "right to life" we'd be up to our necks in cockroaches. How
>> about flies? They're even more reproductive prolific... One
>> pair of houseflies will in four months create 191,000,000,000,000,000
>> descendent flies if all the eggs lived and reproduced normally.
>> But they have a "right to life," that your "God" gave them!!!
>
>They still have the right to life.
Prove it. I mean besides your neurotic delusional hallucination that
"something higher than ourselves," has whispered it in your ear.
>> Hey... how about viruses? How about the bubonic plague carrier flea?
>> How about the RNA viruses responsible for Viral Hemorrhagic Fever?
>> How about the Rabies virus? How about the bacteria responsible for
>> Leprosy? Hey why even develop antibiotics... it just makes all
>> humans "killers," right? Gee... even washing our hands makes
>> each of us a mass murderer. All those poor, poor microbes....
>> being washed down the drain... oh... the humanity!!!
>>
>>>"Aren't all cockroaches "born"? "
>>>
>>>I would hope so.
>>
>> So you insist that "cockroaches" also have this _special_ right to
>> life given to them by your God. How about rocks? Do they have
>> this "right to life" given to them by your God? Don't they last
>> longer than the mayfly, which has an average life span of about
>> seven hours? Where does the mayfly go to bitch about his
>> short "right to life"?
>>
>
>I don't have a god, sir.
Sure you do... you even mentioned "it" in your words -- "That honour
is strictly owned by something higher than ourselves." You've just
tried to use words as substitutes for your "God," yet those words
do not define any "right to life." You simply invent it, to cover up
your belief in a "God" who is "something higher than ourselves."
A "God" by any other name... is still a God.
God -- "An image of a supernatural being; an idol." Exactly how
you describe your imaginary friend -- "something higher than
ourselves."
>
>>>"Why are we better than a cockroach, unless you believe in the Bible?"
>>>
>>>You believe we are better than cockroaches?
>>
>> Of course. Evolution determines that... not God, nor man.
>> Let me know when cockroaches develop electricity for their
>> nests. Let me know when they drive cars from one nest to
>> another. Let me know they can write, and read books,
>> showing the soaring of mind in fiction such as "the Moon
>> and Sixpence." Let me know when they demonstrate a sense
>> of sentience, when they can argue about morals, and ethics,
>> and hold university classes which teach philosophy, science,
>> and the Arts. Let me know when they can develop theorems
>> and hypotheses based upon logic, mathematics, and the
>> examination of the natural laws of physics. Let me know
>> when they see their existence and the universe follows these
>> natural laws of physics. While knowing that as much as we
>> have discovered, there is probably at least a hundred times
>> that amount that remains for us to discover, as we evolve
>> inexorably into yet again a higher species than homo Sapiens.
>> Look what we've done in the last 100 years... and think
>> of what we can do in the next 5 thousand million years.
>
>If you are going to regurgitate Darwin then show the man the respect he
>deserves by correctly referencing him.
Whatever are you screaming about? Evolution was founded
by Darwin, and others about the same time, and scientific
evidence followed which scientifically CONFIRMS the existence
of evolution. However, evolution is the counter argument
to a "right to life," rather than another "God" that you will
probably argue is responsible for this Easter Bunny "right to
life for all biological life," that you keep raving about and
genuflecting before. If there was a "right to life" for every
species, there would be no evolution... one species dies...
a higher species rises. You would keep biological life at
a standstill in evolutionary terms.
>> Let me know when cockroaches can write and play music
>> similar to that created by Beethoven, or opera created by
>> Verdi, or pop music created by the Beatles, using a variety
>> of instruments that they build by themselves. Let me
>> know when they can sing like Pavarotti, or Callas, or Streisand.
>> Let me know when they can paint the Mona Lisa, or create
>> the human passion shown in "Starry Night." Let me know
>> when they can sculpt a statue of David. Let me know
>> when they can take pictures that move faster than the
>> eye can detect making those pictures appear to move.
>> Let me know when they can construct edifices like
>> St. Peter's Cathedral, and The Taj Mahal. Let me know when
>> they can build bridges like the Golden Gate bridge,
>> or giant vessels that ride on water so they can cross
>> vast spans of water.
>
>So you beleiver that you are only entitled to live if you can write or play
>music? Can you do any of those things? A redundent question, sir. You can
>certainlty write fiction.
Smearing me will not show that you are anything other than
a Bible-thumper in your arguments about an Easter Bunny
"right to life for all biological life." It's crap... piled upon
crap... piled upon more crap... and crap founded by
organized religion, and the concepts they spew out that
you agree with and pray together with.
So you speak to nature and nature speaks to you. I suppose you
also believe that you hear all the trees that fall in the forest that
no one else hears. Dear boy... we consider those who think abstract
objects speak to them to be psychotically delusional, and generally
put them in the booby hatch on copious quantities of anti-psychotic
medications.
>>>> As I pointed out to your buddy, mxsmanic --
>>>>
>>>> The Superego is that part of the mind and development that represents
>>>> the internalized moral standards of the society and, above all, of the
>>>> parents. Lacking finding any moral standards in the parents, or the
>>>> parents being absent, creates a vacuum for moral standards, and the
>>>> superego obviously leans toward internalizing the moral standards of
>>>> peers, if having NO OTHER DIRECTION. The Superego is approximately
>>>> equivalent to what we call "conscience." "Conscience" is an emotional
>>>> response, and the lack of "conscience" is what drives many to commit
>>>> murder. Those who lack the EMOTIONAL capacity of "conscience."
>>>> Such as the Nazis lack of "conscience" in the attempted extermination
>>>> of European Jewry.
<shudder -- clip very creepy reply>
>> If there is a God... He is the only one able to comprehend your rather
>> grimy and creepy mind. In any case... "he" certainly hasn't given
>> all biological life a "right to life." Quite the contrary... nature
>> has made sure that there is no thing as a "right to life," by creating
>> the predator and the prey. The food chain is an essential fact, and
>> giving creatures a "right to life," would be a disaster that would
>> have already ensured that you would not be here as a human.
>>
>
>Everything is born with the right to life. You do not have any right to
>declare otherwise.
Actually, you do not have any right to declare it in the first place.
You can have it as your opinion... after all children believe in
Santa Claus! But you can't state it as a fact without proof. And
any child claiming Santa Claus is a fact, is met with the same
snicker that I offer you, in your phony claim that "something
higher than ourselves," is talking to you personally. Claiming
"biology" or "nature" provide that proof is crap... nothing
but crap... piled upon more crap. Especially when you claim that
"biology" and "nature" have personally talked to you and told you
they provide this "right to life for all biological life."
>>>"> The Superego is that part of the mind and development that represents
>>>> the internalized moral standards of the society and, above all, of the
>>>> parents. Lacking finding any moral standards in the parents, or the
>>>> parents being absent, creates a vacuum for moral standards, and the
>>>> superego obviously leans toward internalizing the moral standards of
>>>> peers, if having NO OTHER DIRECTION. The Superego is approximately
>>>> equivalent to what we call "conscience." "Conscience" is an emotional
>>>> response, and the lack of "conscience" is what drives many to commit
>>>> murder. Those who lack the EMOTIONAL capacity of "conscience."
>>>> Such as the Nazis lack of "conscience" in the attempted extermination
>>>> of European Jewry."
<clipped Holocaust denial>
>>>> None of this argues there is such a silly thing as a "natural right to
>>>> life human beings have." It's religious gobbledygook. And it has no
>>>> place in arguments of morals and ethics... it only has a place in
>>>> various churches.
>>>
>>>As I said before; I am not religious. However we are born with the right
>>>to life because we are born.
>>
>> No proof offered. Your claim fails. Being born doesn't give anyone
>> anything special. We are only special when we make some substantial
>> contribution to the advance of our species, and thus the advance of
>> evolution. This does not happen at birth, but when we do contribute
>> to the advance of evolution. And then only "special" in terms of
>> having made our lives either better, or more knowledgeable - providing
>> shoulders for later geniuses to stand upon to make our lives even
>> better. Babies are born premature and die in hours. No one gave them
>> the "right to life." We abort ON DEMAND millions of viable fetuses
>> and no other than me seems to give a shit about it. Liberals shout
>> that "women have the right to DEMAND the killing of the viable fetus
>> that lives within them," while if a women came into a doctor and
>> demanded that her viable right arm be removed, she'd be taken away to
>> the booby hatch. Where is that "right to life" you so proudly rave
>> about? Where is it!!!
>
>Everything is born with the right to life because it is born.
No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>>>We are born because whatever causes the
>>>reproductive cycle to commence gives us that right, so the same has the
>>>right do take it away; nothing else does.
>>
>> That's just more of your frivolous argument. You can offer absolutely
>> NO SCIENTIFIC PROOF of what you insist is a FACT. I don't care what
>> your "opinion," is because everyone has an "opinion." But clearly you
>> cannot assert something as blissfully foolish as "a right to life,"
>> for all biological life. You certainly cannot prove it... thus your
>> argument is based upon your religious beliefs... and you obviously
>> become a Bible-thumper. You can't say that you're not religious
>> when your entire argument has a bedrock based upon religion.
>> There is absolutely no SCIENTIFIC proof of your claim, thus the
>> only "proof" you have is this absurd belief that your God has given
>> all biological life a "right to life." Weird... totally weird.
>
>I do not need to offer scientific proof.
I'm sure you think you don't... after all, you think "God" talks to
you.
>> I repeat again... offer some scientific proof of this "right to life"
>> you presume is somehow magically given to every form of
>> biological life by some "special being sitting on his throne,
>> eating olives, while laughing and throwing the pits at us, and
>> saying to himself -- "What fools these mortals be."
>
>No sir. I am not religios.
>
Hehe.. Your "God" will punish you for that blasphemy, against "it."
>>>> If you assert that we do have "a natural right to life," you need to
>>>> prove it. I don't need to prove what is obvious - simply because
>>>> murder is a common occurrence among human beings.
>>>
>>>"If you assert that we do have "a natural right to life," you need to
>>>> prove it."
>>>
>>>No I don't.
>>
>> Then it doesn't exist. End of story. But why do you keep repeating
>> my words rather than just responding to them? Good grief - you're
>> one weird fruitcake.
>
>"Then it doesn't exist"
>
>Your logic is flawed, sir.
>Truth exists despite pf proof, not because of it.
>
"Truth" has nothing to do with a claim of an Easter Bunny "right to
life." Saying all you need is the "Truth without proof" is
Bible-thumping. That's the same argument Islam offers for
Mohammed ascending into heaven. The question is why
does my showing you the truth engender your hatred for
me personally?
>>>>"I don't need to prove what is obvious - simply because
>>>> murder is a common occurrence among human beings"
>>>
>>>Your need to prove is the same as mine. In other words, it doesn't exist.
>>>
>> But murder is obviously the counter argument to a "right to life,"
>> how can anyone take away this imaginary "right to life" if given
>> to all of us by some _higher force_? Murders exist... just because
>> the word "life" exists doesn't mean that the word "death" doesn't
>> exist. If there is a _force_ behind what you claim then
>> everyone would live for exactly the same microseconds of time.
>> Since you presume such a "right to life" is given to all biological
>> life. Obviously not everyone becomes a victim of murder.
>> The word "common" doesn't mean "universal," with ALL
>> human beings. While your argument attempts to encompass
>> all biological life.
>
>Murder is wrong therefore execution is wrong.
Another huge logical fallacy... arguing two totally dissimilar things
are somehow connected is an irrelevant conclusion. Murder is not
legal execution.
Thus your comment is as meaningless as saying "murder is wrong
therefore dancing is wrong."
<clip support for murder>
>> Your friends, the Nazis, used it on the Jews, and innocent people. You
>> insist you don't remember the Nazis... You insist you don't
>> remember the Nazis using lethal injection and gassing the Jews.
>> yet here you are using them in your own self-interest, rather than
>> condemning them for attempting to exterminate European Jewry. No
>> wonder I find you to be a neo-Nazi. You use their same methods.
>>
>
>The Nazis are not my frinds, sir.
Wrong. You argued that in respect to the Shoah, the Jews should
"After sixty years, it's time for them to get over it." That plays
directly into the hands of neo-Nazis... they are you... you are them.
In addition to you "remembering" that it's been sixty years, while
you insist that you can't remember when or where or how long
ago the Shoah occurred, because in your words -- "You cannot forget or
remember the extermination of 6 million jews (sic) unless you remember
them and to remember them you must have experienced them first hand."
And yet you remember when it happened. You're a juvenile lying
hypocrite. Filled with baloney and hyperbole. And not even clever
enough to hide your lies and hyperbole.
> They practice fascism, just like you. They
>invented the lethal injection, sir and your people took it on.
How could this be? You claim you don't remember the Nazis!!!
<clip weeping for murderers>
>>>> Spare me your weeping for convicted murderers.
>>>
>>>Why? Is your conscience bothering you? I truly doubt it.
>>
>> If you doubt it... why do you ask? And the answer is I sleep like
>> a baby when I know of the death of a brutal pedophile murderer who
>> slaughtered and raped a 24-month-old child, and tortured her by
>> ripping out her tiny breasts with pliers, and burning her over and
>> over, before murdering her. And the reason??? He wrote in
>> his notebook -- "Why do I want to degrade and humiliate children?
>> Sadism...I enjoy the humiliation. Defile the innocent. Make them
>> scared of sex. It's dirty. I didn't have a happy childhood, neither
>> will they...Revenge."
>>
>
>Becasue there was a temporary hope that you are burned by conscience for all
>your lies but I do thik that you sleep soundly at night.
Now, now... you're getting angry again.
>> His name was Theodore Frank... the child's name was Amy Sue
>> Seitz. See -
>> http://www.wtv-zone.com/LadyMaggie/php/AmySueStory.html
>>
>> When I heard he had died on death row, after spending 23 years
>> there, rather than being executed, I felt cheated and dirty...
>> like the world had lost its morality. And yet... when I went to
>> bed... I just feel asleep and slept like a baby... happy that such
>> scum was no longer capable of breathing the same air that other
>> humans breath. Society was letting him take up air... needlessly,
>> for 23 years. And you lick your lips in a grotesque smug smile,
>> that this murderous scum was _saved_ from execution. And
>> then go and thump your Bible frantically and joyously, in honor
>> of the life of Theodore Frank. While I was only thankful he
>> was finally dead!!!
>>
>
>He was clearly insane.
No proof offered. Your claim fails. I hope you are not trying to
claim that at the tender age of 17 you have already acquired the
necessary psychological and psychiatric training to identify the
"clearly insane." After all.. the Church insisted that Galileo was
"clearly insane." Are you a member of that Church?
Do you know that Frank's chances of escaping would be enhanced
at least 1,000 fold in an institution for the criminally insane
rather than sitting on death row? No wonder you'd want him
to have that greater opportunity.
>>>>>>>That honour is
>>>>>>>strictly owned by something higher than ourselves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ROTFLMAO. Who would that be? I thought you said you weren't
>>>>>> religious. Now I see you thumping that Bible. Is this something
>>>>>> "it" told you in a dream... or are you a prophet uttering a revelation
>>>>>> from your "something higher than ourselves"? How come "it" never
>>>>>> told me? Are you claiming to be "special"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Who would that be?"
>>>>>
>>>>>Unknown.
>>>>>
>>>> Well how do you claim that "you know the unknown"? Are you claiming
>>>> you're omnipotent?
>>>
>>>Curious.
>>
>> Mindless drivel.
>>
>
>That certainly was.
Glad you recognize what your argument is... so when can I expect
other than mindless drivel from you? Come on, sport... tell me how
"nature" has whispered in your ear for only you to hear that "it" has
given the "right to life to every biological life." Even though all
scientific evidence disputes that nature can talk to you, or can
"give" anything to anyone. Tell me how your God is "nature," and you
see "it" as a God who is "something higher than ourselves."
<clip Death Disco corruption of the English language>
>
>"You ASSERTED that there is a "right to life" for
>> all biological life. And you stated exactly who gave that "right to
>> life" to all biological life, in your words "
>
>Correct.
>
>"And you stated exactly who gave that "right to
>> life" to all biological life, in your words -- "That honour is
>> strictly owned by something higher than ourselves."
>"
>
>Correct.
>
>" Well, if you
>> KNOW that it is given by "something higher than ourselves,"
>> then you must KNOW what that something is."
>
>your conclusion is Incorrect. No points, sir.
My conclusion is perfectly accurate. Just by IDENTIFYING an
object means you verify that the object exists. If you say "this
is a rock," that means you have observed the object and
determined that it is a "rock." Is this becoming too complicated
for you??? Would pictures help? See --
http://www.suelebeau.com/images/rock.gif
That is a rock... now as to "something higher than ourselves"
you see that as --
http://tinyurl.com/ykushva
>> Since you KNOW it is "something higher than ourselves," prove
>> it is not the cockroach. Or simply prove that it is "something
>> higher than ourselves," since that's nothing but a "mental
>> abstraction" your mind invented, since even you insist it is
>> "unknown." If it's "unknown" to YOU, then how can you
>> KNOW that it "something higher than ourselves"?
>>
>> quod erat demonstrandum: There is no "something higher
>> than ourselves," who has given this magical "right to life" to
>> all biological life. It's hogwash. It's your religion imagination
>> run amok.
>
>You're guessing, sir.
And you're full of crap, sir.
>>
>>>>>"Now I see you thumping that Bible"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I gave no mention to Jehovah or to any particular diety nor did a give
>>>>>reference to any particular doctrined or derivatives thereof. Therefor
>>>>>your term, "Thumping the bible" is another one of your innacurate
>>>>>assertions
>>>>
>>>> Well then... I guess it's just the peyote you're on that's talking,
>>>> when you start raving about "knowing the unknown."
>>>
>>>Your desperation appears to be growing in a logarithmic scale.
>>
>> Sonny, you don't know a logarithmic scale from a horse's ass.
>
>A curious comment considering that you nothing about my education.
I know you lack a proper education. Since you admit that you refuse
to learn about anything other than what you've personally experienced.
Of course, that is ONLY when it comes to the Shoah, and your Holocaust
denial. While your memory in remembering events like the Crusades and
WW I, and the Nazis is dead-on sharp, even though you never
experienced any of those events.
I've always been fascinated by the Dutch and their ambivalent feelings
toward the Jews. Less than 25% of all Dutch Jews escaped
extermination in the Shoah. 107,000 Jews were deported to
Auschwitz and Sobibor. Only 5,200 survived. Yet on the
other hand, the Dutch not associated with the Dutch
administrators and police took many chances in hiding Jews
from the authorities, thus 25,000-30,000 Dutch Jews went
into hiding, assisted by the Dutch underground, and 2/3 of
those in hiding managed to survive.
The story is fascinating in the microcosm of one single Jew... Anne
Frank... who was kept in hiding by Otto Frank's former Dutch
employees, all willing to take that chance, knowing the death
penalty for hiding Jews... and yet betrayed by another Dutch
person, a person never revealed.
Just so you know the history of your country in WW II.
<clip whining about religion is so great, and how happy Death Disco is
to be a Bible-thumper>
>>>>>>> Executing someone for
>>>>>>>murder is stating that we don't stand by our own values regarding
>>>>>>>homicide. I have no stomach for such attitudes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No one asked you. Your personal feelings did not protect Colleen
>>>>>> Reed. She was abducted from a car wash, and tortured and raped
>>>>>> the entire night by Kenneth McDuff, who then stated that he would
<clip affection for the serial-murderer Kenneth McDuff>
>> The willingness to accept responsibility for what one supports is the
>> source from which all self-respect springs. Earn some self-respect
>> and see yourself for the religious fruitcake you are. Then think for
>> yourself and examine the world around you, and realize that one of
>> the most foolish of thoughts is that biological life on earth is
>> somehow graced with "the right to life," when nature shows us
>> quite a different face. There is still time... you are still a child.
>> You have much to learn... grasshopper.
>
>Responsibilty of a murder belongs to the mrderer. The resposibility of
>reeing a madman belongs to those who freed him.
So you want every murderer to be sentenced to L wop (life with
the possibility of parole). How very primeval of you.
But I believe you would rather he was committed to an institution
for the criminally insane, where his chances of both escape or
release would be much better. Poor Colleen Reed.
>>>>>" Your personal feelings did not protect Colleen Reed"
>>>>>
>>>>>And neither did your death penalty!
>>>>>
>>>> That's because it wasn't used. Had it been used as originally
>>>> decided by 12 honest citizens, Colleen Reed would be alive today.
>>>> You can't blame the death penalty when the fact is not using
>>>> the death penalty (a position you support) is what resulted in
>>>> the murder of Colleen Reed, and some others. A sentence of
>>>> life (a sentence you support rather than the death penalty) is
>>>> what permitted Kenneth McDuff to murder Colleen Reed, and
>>>> some others.
>>>
>>>Irrelevant. You death penatly does not deter.
No proof offered. In fact, two DOJ studies of released murderers
shows that those released when there was no death penalty were
6.6% recidivist, while those released when the death penalty was
a strong possibility if a murderer recommitted murder were only
1.1% recidivist. See --
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr83.pdf
and
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdf
I love to put up statistics that I'm sure are much too complicated
for your midget mind to comprehend.
>>>You kill one, another takes
>>>his place. Your death penalty increases the corpse count.
>>
>> Tell that to Colleen Reed. Oh, wait... you can't... she was murdered
>> by the guy you support not having been executed. Talk about your
>> Schadenfreude... it looks like you enjoy knowing Kenneth McDuff wasn't
>> executed and was left to kill Colleen Reed.
>
>No, sir I'm "telling that" to you.
The lack of the death penalty increased the corpse count of the
innocent in these cases --
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/doublemurderers.htm
But the innocent who are murdered by released or escaped murderers
are not your moral concern... your "moral" concern is saving the lives
of their murderers.
>>>>>> Kenneth McDuff had already been sentenced to death prior to
>>>>>> his abducting Colleen Reed, but had his death penalty sentence
>>>>>> overturned by the Supreme Court when the Supreme Court ruled
>>>>>> that the death penalty as presently created in statutes was "cruel
>>>>>> and unusual" in Furman v. Georgia, resulting in the release from the
>>>>>> death penalty of hundreds of capital murderers. Kenneth McDuff was
>>>>>> then released and continued his spree of murders, none of which would
>>>>>> have happened had the feelings of 12 citizens been honored. See --
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_McDuff
>>>>>
>>>>>Then you put the man away in a mental institution, sir. Kenneth McDuff
>>>>>was obviously insane.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong. You don't have the slightest idea of the legal and psychiatric
>>>> definition of insane. You're out of your league, "my good fellow."
>>>
>>>Curios. You don't have the slightest idea of what I have knowledge of, my
>>>dear fellow and further more, it does not take a psychiatrist to know that
>>>psyche of a serial killer is not that of a healthy mind.
>>
>> When you argue that Kenneth McDuff was "obviously insane," that is
>> proof positive that "you don't have the slightest idea of the legal
>> and psychiatric definition of insane."
>
>
>Serial killing 14 people is not sane behaviour, sir.
Psychiatrists disagree with you. Sociopaths are not generally
considered to meet the strict standard of "insanity," in criminal
actions. The definition of insanity in criminal actions is that
the perpetrator must not understand the nature and quality
nor the wrongfulness of his acts. Thus lacking "willful intent."
See --
http://www.lectlaw.com/def/d029.htm
There is no question that Kenneth McDuff showed "willful intent."
>"you don't have the slightest idea of the "
>You are not qualified to state what I know, sir.
You don't have the slightest idea of what I am qualified to
state about what you "don't" know, son.
>Kenneth McDuff fits the psychiatric definitions of insane. only your warped
>culture would argue that he doesn't fit the legal one.
And there you go... Death Disco argues to give Kenneth McDuff a
"fighting chance" to escape, rather than keeping him on death row.
<clip insane raving>
Oops.. lock him up... he's insane.
>>>>>> How's it feel to have supported the murder of Colleen Reed to
>>>>>> save the life of Kenneth McDuff?
>>>>>
>>>>>We oppose the death penalty.
>>>>
>>>> You and who else?
>>>
>>>Those of us whom oppose the death penalty.
>>>
>> Why do you oppose the death penalty for murderers who are none of your
>> concern, since they threaten citizens of the U.S. rather than citizens
>> of the Netherlands? I'll bet you weep for the murderer of Theo van
>> Gogh. But that is your concern. I don't care if you throw that
>> murderer a parade, and a week with that gorgeous coffee girl who
>> pushed around a coffee cart in a bank in Rotterdam, 36 years ago.
>>
>
>Your comment is more puerile xenophobia, dear fellow. America concerns
>itself what other contries are doing so it is only just for other countries
>to concern themselves with what America is doing.
Two wrongs still don't make a right. The fact is you contend that the
U.S. is "wrong" to do so... but somehow end up with you being "right"
to do so. Of course I'm talking about YOU... personally... rather
than your nation, where I have stated that I don't give a fuck if your
NATION gives a parade to every one of your murderers. Why can't
YOU... personally, do the same... and keep your PERSONAL nose out of
U.S. internal affairs?
>> Why do you stick your nose in what is no concern of your regarding an
>> internal affairs issue of the U.S.? Clearly such concern can only
>> have a religious foundation. Plus you think you're BETTER than
>> Americans who make decisions about murderers in their country... not
>> yours. This goes right along with my argument that you see yourself
>> as "superior" to other humans, rather than the childish snot that you
>> are. It's all part of your belief in an "Aryan nation concept" where
>> you considers Americans to be uncivilized and immoral. Yet our dead
>> stand witness to the fact that we had to rescue your sick ass from
>> conquerors... not once... but twice in one century... See --
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/those_who_stayed_behind.jpg
>> You ungrateful swine. Without us... you'd be speaking German.
>
>You country sticks it's nose into what doesn't concern them. You cannot
>complain when others do it back at you.
Own up to your own faults, and stop blaming others as an excuse for
your faults.
You're not a country... you're a simpleton. I don't stick my nose
into EU internal affairs... why are you so morally incompetent that
you cannot recognize that what others do does not give you a free
pass to do the same. It's as if you commit a crime and go before
the judge and say "judge... that other guy committed a crime, too.
That means I really didn't commit my crime."
<clipped>
>> Why do you stick your nose in what is no concern of your regarding an
>> internal affairs issue of the U.S.? Clearly such concern can only
>> have a religious foundation. Plus you think you're BETTER than
>> Americans who make decisions about murderers in their country... not
>> yours. This goes right along with my argument that you see yourself
>> as "superior" to other humans, rather than the childish snot that you
>> are. It's all part of your belief in an "Aryan nation concept" where
>> you considers Americans to be uncivilized and immoral. Yet our dead
>> stand witness to the fact that we had to rescue your sick asses from
>> conquerors... not once... but twice in one century... See --
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/those_who_stayed_behind.jpg
>> You ungrateful swine. Without us... you'd be speaking German.
>
>
>"we had to rescue your sick asses from conquerors"
>
>You did not, sir?
>
Yes, we did, son. You ungrateful prick! Here's some more --
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/Those_who_stay_behind.jpg
How many cemeteries are in the U.S. holding no tombstones but Dutch
who fought to free the U.S.? Answer - ZERO.
Ever been to Margraten? 482,010 people visited the cemetery for
American WW II dead during 2002.
>>>>> If your government released on obvious madman into a situation where he
>>>>> is going to kill again then the fault is that of your government. Do
>>>>> not try
>>>>>to blame us for your mistakes.
>>>>
>>>> Do not try to stop me from blaming you for your mistake of protecting
>>>> the life of Kenneth McDuff, so he could murder... and murder... and
>>>> murder... some say at least 16 times after his release from a death
>>>> sentence because you opposed that death sentence.
>>>
>>>You do not have the authority to apportion blame. Your govenrment released
>>>him.
>>>
>> You supported it, by opposing his execution as it was originally
>> ordered by 12 honest citizens in an open court.
>
>Not his release, we didn't, sir.
No difference... if he had been executed, an execution you oppose, he
would not have been able to murder some say at least 16 new innocent
victims. That's a fact you can take to the bank. The fact is I
didn't see you OPPOSE his release when he was released.
>>>> How do you live with yourself, knowing your responsibility for the
>>>> murder of Colleen Reed??? Why don't you keep your nose out of
>>>> U.S. internal affairs? I don't mind those who complain about actions
>>>> the U.S. takes in her foreign affairs... but it's unseemly for you to
>>>> running your mouth off about what the U.S. does with her murderers.
>>>> Why not worry about the genocide of six million Jews that Europe
>>>> was responsible for?
>>>
>>>"How do you live with yourself, knowing your responsibility for the
>>>> murder of Colleen Reed??? "
>>>
>>>I have no such responsibilty.
>>
>> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>
>Your unreferenced site is inadmissable.
See --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_McDuff
>>
>>>Kenneth McDuff killed her after your goverment
>>>released him. It is evidence where that bombshell lays but your ego won't
>>>let you see it. That is such a tragic pity.
>>
>> So you support all convicted murderers receiving L wop (life without
>> parole), without exception. How very primal and barbaric... worse
>> than a humane execution... especially for an innocent who must
>> spend his entire life in prison, living with those only a hairbreadth
>> from animals, knowing he is innocent. Death row is much more
>> humane than that. Death row saved the life of Theodore Frank,
>> because in the general prison population, with other prisoners
>> always knowing the crime another has committed, Theodore
>> Frank would not have lived a single year. He would have been
>> murdered in some laundry room in the prison, or stabbed with
>> a shank in the prison yard.
>
>>" How very primal and barbaric... worse than a humane execution"
>
>Hello. pot. Hello, pot. This is kettle calling. Can I have a colour check
>please?
>
You think murder is funny??? You sick son-of-a-bitch! There was
nothing funny about Kenneth McDuff, being called "the broomstick
murderer," because he used a broomstick to crush his victim's throats.
Tell me why L wop is better than a humane lethal injection after
more than a decade of due process while on death row?
>>>> Why not find a hobby, or watch Bambi, instead of whining for
>>>> U.S. murderers?
>>>
>>>I have several. One of them is enjoying a good comedy. Your posts provide
>>>that for me, dear fellow.
>>>
>> I haven't seen you laugh. All I've seen is you repeating my comments
>> and then denying... and denying... and denying... Yet the evidence is
>> clear... in the very comments of mine that you repeat.
>>
>
>"I haven't seen you laugh"
>
>Of course you haven't dear fellow. You haven't seen me.
Yet you claimed to be laughing while "enjoying a good comedy." You're
a real nut job... you know that??
Your white flag of surrender has been accepted sir.
>
>>"Now answer me one question -- What is your mother-tongue???
>> Since it's now obvious that it is not English."
>>
>>This is none of your fucking business, dear Sir.
>
> Heh... looks like you're growing angry, laddie. I must have struck
> a nerve, in describing you as "Dutch, with a dingleberry hanging from
> your ass because of your unhygienic paedomorphic habits."
That is the "I get to you" argument.Usually it is the newgroup equivilent
of hearing the death gargle of the posters argument.
An unreferenced cite is inadmissible
>
>>>>> English isn't your mother-tongue is it?
>>>>
>>>>No. but it's still better than yours.
>>>>
>>> Gee... who was it that said "self-praise is no praise at all"? Oh,
>>> wait... that was you just about two paragraphs back.
>>
>>It wasn't praise. Do you need to look that word up too? Your English
>>suffers
>>severe flaws, sir.
>
> You're the one who needs to look it up, sport.
>
No,sir. I do look up words. It's part of learning a language. Unlike you I
don't try to guess them.
>>> Bet you're Dutch, with a dingleberry hanging from your ass because
>>> of your unhygienic paedomorphic habits. You're certainly
>>> not Italian... I am almost mother-tongue fluent in Italian having
>>> learned most of it before I was 14, and then taking it as my
>>> minor in college. You're not French... my wife is mother-tongue
>>> French, born and raised in Paris... so I can do very well in
>>> the French spoken language, and good enough in the written
>>> language. You're not German... I spent 20 years in Germany,
>>> and can keep up a fairly good conversation, because people
>>> tend to overlook grammatical mistakes in respect to "der" "die"
>>> "das" gender notation and case endings when speaking, although
>>> my written German could use a lot of work, for which I do not
>>> have time, and no longer have the drive I once had. I don't think
>>> you're Spanish or Portuguese. Nor from the former East bloc.
>>> And since you mention the U.K., but English is not your mother-tongue,
>>> that only leaves the Netherlands.
>>
>>Why are you so curious regarding my country of origin?
>
> Hey, you're the one who began insulting me by insisting I wasn't who
> I said I was... claiming I wasn't actually 78-years-old. I still
> haven't seen you apologize for that smart-Alec smear tactic.
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-knee-jerk-reaction.htm
>
>>> So I suspect that in real life you are a rather lonely 17-year-old
>>> Dutch boy, who is a virgin, afraid of the opposite sex, pimply and
>>> overweight, has no friends, lacks even moderate athletic abilities, is
>>> considered weird by his schoolmates, lives on junk food, spends an
>>> excessive amount of time surfing porn and White Power sites,
>>> and is so overly-mothered it's creepy.
>>
>>Suspect all you choose, my dear friend. I have no liability to identify
>>myself to you.
>
> TRANSLATION "Suspect all you choose, my dear friend. I have no liability
> to identify myself to you."
>
>>> I suspect you do average work in school since you don't appear to
>>> be retarded to me, but you certainly have deep psychological issues,
>>> and an inability to relate to others when speaking in your
>>> mother-tongue, thus you struggle along making mistake after mistake in
>>> the English language, boring us in AADP, showing a political
>>> philosophy based upon a belief in your "Aryan superiority," that
>>> you've never "seen a Black person," and a refusal to accept that the
>>> extermination of six million Jews in the 20th Century actually
>>> happened. In addition to arguing that you do remember "the Crusades,"
>>> "WW II," and "the Greeks." Just what do you remember about the
>>> Greeks? Try to impress me with your knowledge of Aeschylus. Do you
>>> remember even one of his plays? Can you name even one of his plays? Do
>>> you remember what Crusade was led by Richard the Lionheart? No fair
>>> using Google now!!
>>
>>My turn now, dear sir. I suspect that the only trutheful comment you made
>>in
>>this newsgroup is your age.
>
> Oh, so now you admit that your attempt to smear was a disgusting lie.
> It's about time.
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-knee-jerk-reaction.htm
>
> <clip further attempts to smear PV>
I shall reinsert the comment of which you are afraind to answer for you, sir
"Are you a xenophobe
or just a plain racist? Your knowledge of the world anatomy is as poor as
your comprehension of your own mother tongue.
"
>
>>> However, I can prove my creds. As I've had to do more than once
>>> when confronted with an immature uneducated youth. See -
>>>
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/birth_certificate.jpg
>>> Born Feb 1, 1932.
>>>
>>> My University of Maryland Bachelor's degree. Magna Cum Laude --
>>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Maryland.jpg
>>>
>>> My Boston University Master's degree
>>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Boston.jpg
>>>
>>> My Boston University Master's degree transcript. All A's, 1 B.
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/Transcript.jpg
>>>
>>> My Military Retirement Certificate after 20 years in the U.S. Military
>>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Retirement.jpg
>>>
>>> I have blocked out various personal information such as
>>> my Social Security Number.
>>>
>>> Now let's see YOUR proof, if you're not afraid.
>>>
>>
>>This is where we differ. You feel obliged to prove yourself. I do not.
>
> Heh... TRANSLATION "This is where we differ. You feel obliged to prove
> yourself. I do not."
>
>>> *deathly silence*
>>>
>>
>>Curious. You were anything but silent.
>
> While you curiously remained *deathly silent*.
No I do not, dear fellow.
>
> <clipped whining>
Your white flag of surrender has been accepted sir.
>
>>I am not a religious person, sir.. I beleive the correct word is
>>"agnostic"
>
> Wrong again.
You are not qualified to make that assertion, dear fellow.
"Your words in respect to who gives all biological
> life a "right to life." --> "That honour is strictly owned by
> something higher than ourselves." Anyone who believes in a
> power "higher than ourselves," who is responsible for giving
> all biological life a "right to life" is not an agnostic, but a
> Bible-thumper.
>
Wrong again, sir. I am not religious. I am an agnostic.
> You really need to study definitions of words in the English
> language rather than just throwing them around helter-skelter
> having no idea what they mean. See --
> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/agnostic
I do study English words, sir. It's a practice I recommend that you take. It
makes you look less of a fool and you need all the help you can get, my
friend.
>
> You are NOT "One who believes that it is impossible to know
> whether there is a God," since you insist upon believing in this
> "something higher than ourselves."
>
> You are NOT "One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does
> not profess true atheism." Since you are not skeptical at all about
> your belief in this "something higher than ourselves."
>
> And you are NOT "One who is doubtful or noncommittal about something."
> Since you are a BELIEVER in this "something higher than ourselves."
>
> Thus by every definition you are not an agnostic. You're a
> Bible-thumper... pure and simple. Believing in some "power"
> or "force" that began the creation of our universe in no way
> argues or shows that such a "power" or "force" cares about biological
> life on this rather insignificant planet. Thus you are not even
> a deist. You suffer from delusional hallucinations in thinking this
> "something higher than ourselves" has been talking to you directly.
>
You are guessing, sir..I am not religious. I am an agnostic.
I shall take that as a "yes".
>
>>> You're the one who brought it up, if you care to pay attention to
>>> the thread. I simply called your bluff in this fantasy of a "right
>>> to life," nonsense. And since you made the assertion, you have
>>> to prove it. I'd really like to see you prove there is a God-given
>>> "right to life" for all biological life. If it's irrelevant...
>>> why do you blab on and on about it? I think you now call
>>> it "irrelevant," because you realize just how frivolous and
>>> scatterbrained is a claim that all biological life has been granted
>>> this _special treatment_ by some clown with a halo on "it's"
>>> head, sitting on a cloud, with lightening bolts coming out of
>>> "it's" eye-sockets.
>>
>>All biology has a birth given right to life.
>
> Who says? You need to prove what you say... rather than using
> the word "obvious," because there is no such thing as an axiom
> which proves "biology," is anything other than what the word
> defines. And in that definition there is not a single mention in
> any dictionary about "biology" being the source of a "right to
> life." Only the Bible satisfies your argument... thus you're a
> Bible-thumper.
>
"You need to prove what you say"
No I don't, sir.
>>It is not for us to proportion
>>it. We are not gods.
>>
> Yet you hold yourself up as a God, proclaiming you know something
> that no one else (other than other Bible-thumpers) knows.
No I don't, sir.
>>>
>>>>>> We are born so we are given the right to life. It is
>>>>>>not for us to say who can keep that right to life and who can't.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're thumping that Bible again. We are born because our
>>>>> parents engaged in procreation, as all animal life does. Do you
>>>>> think a cockroach has "a right to life"? Aren't all cockroaches
>>>>> "born"? Why are we better than a cockroach, unless you believe
>>>>> in the Bible? We are here because the universe has laws that permit
>>>>> the evolution of biological life if environmental conditions are
>>>>> suitable on a planet such as earth, and if a source of energy,
>>>>> called the sun in our solar system, lasts long enough for biological
>>>>> life to arise and evolve. We are a species of biological life... no
>>>>> different than other biological life, other than we have an advanced
>>>>> intelligence gained through evolution, which enables us to
>>>>> scientifically examine how we are here, and philosophically wonder why
>>>>> we are here. While at this stage in our evolution we have a very
>>>>> rudimentary moral and ethical superego, with each of us having a
>>>>> different degree of such morals and ethics. Including some who
>>>>> believe it is moral and ethical to hate or even kill their fellow man
>>>>> for one concocted reason or another.
>>>>
>>>>Impossible. as I said, I am not religious.
>
> Saying it, and proving you're not are two different things. Since
> there is absolute evidence of your claim that "something higher
> than ourselves," has told you personally that "it" gave all biological
> life an Easter Bunny "right to life."
>
I don't need to prove it, dear fellow.
>>> Of course you're religious... you think we're special... and that's
>>> the same preaching that comes from the Bible and the church.
>>> Sonny... we are no more special than a speck of sand in the entire
>>> ocean and beaches. There is no such thing as a "right to life"
>>> that was given us by some imaginary God. Yet that is your
>>> argument. Yes, my boy... it's loopy Bible-thumping.
>>>
>>
>>No, sir. I am not religious.
>>
> No proof offered. Your claim fails. Certainly you've insisted
> "That honour is strictly owned by something higher than ourselves."
>
I am not obliged to prove it to you.
> You've tried to argue it is "biology," and it is "nature," yet neither
> of those words convey a meaning of a "right to life," in any
> definition in the English language. Yet you insist there is that
> "something higher than ourselves" that you hold up and venerate as
> some personal "God" of your own. See --
> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/biology
> and
> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/nature
>
> Guess what? Neither definition even contains the word "right."
They are born, they have the right to life. The right is not yours to
allocate who and what are entitled.
>>
>>>>"We are born because our
>>>> parents engaged in procreation, as all animal life does. Do you
>>>> think a cockroach has "a right to life"?""
>>>>
>>>>The cycle of nature gave us right to life. The same cycle gave the
>>>>cochroach the right to life.
>>>
>>> ROTFLMAO. Now "cockroaches" have a "right to life." One female
>>> cockroach can produce two million offspring in one year. An average
>>> breeding session produces 35,0000 offspring. If cockroaches had
>>> a "right to life" we'd be up to our necks in cockroaches. How
>>> about flies? They're even more reproductive prolific... One
>>> pair of houseflies will in four months create 191,000,000,000,000,000
>>> descendent flies if all the eggs lived and reproduced normally.
>>> But they have a "right to life," that your "God" gave them!!!
>>
>>They still have the right to life.
>
> Prove it. I mean besides your neurotic delusional hallucination that
> "something higher than ourselves," has whispered it in your ear.
I am not obliged to prove anything to you, sir.
I don't need to describe something which I do not know exists, sir.
You really don't know, do you?
"Evolution was founded by Darwin,"
No, sir. evelution already existed. Darwin documented the theory. I
understand some of your schools still do not teach it. How absurd.
I do not need to smear you, sir. You do not need my help to smear yourself
and you started it with your puerile name calling.
No, sir.
>
>>>>> As I pointed out to your buddy, mxsmanic --
>>>>>
>>>>> The Superego is that part of the mind and development that represents
>>>>> the internalized moral standards of the society and, above all, of the
>>>>> parents. Lacking finding any moral standards in the parents, or the
>>>>> parents being absent, creates a vacuum for moral standards, and the
>>>>> superego obviously leans toward internalizing the moral standards of
>>>>> peers, if having NO OTHER DIRECTION. The Superego is approximately
>>>>> equivalent to what we call "conscience." "Conscience" is an emotional
>>>>> response, and the lack of "conscience" is what drives many to commit
>>>>> murder. Those who lack the EMOTIONAL capacity of "conscience."
>>>>> Such as the Nazis lack of "conscience" in the attempted extermination
>>>>> of European Jewry.
>
> <shudder -- clip very creepy reply>
You snip replies you do not like. This has been observed.
>
>>> If there is a God... He is the only one able to comprehend your rather
>>> grimy and creepy mind. In any case... "he" certainly hasn't given
>>> all biological life a "right to life." Quite the contrary... nature
>>> has made sure that there is no thing as a "right to life," by creating
>>> the predator and the prey. The food chain is an essential fact, and
>>> giving creatures a "right to life," would be a disaster that would
>>> have already ensured that you would not be here as a human.
>>>
>>
>>Everything is born with the right to life. You do not have any right to
>>declare otherwise.
>
> Actually, you do not have any right to declare it in the first place.
> You can have it as your opinion... after all children believe in
> Santa Claus! But you can't state it as a fact without proof. And
> any child claiming Santa Claus is a fact, is met with the same
> snicker that I offer you, in your phony claim that "something
> higher than ourselves," is talking to you personally. Claiming
> "biology" or "nature" provide that proof is crap... nothing
> but crap... piled upon more crap. Especially when you claim that
> "biology" and "nature" have personally talked to you and told you
> they provide this "right to life for all biological life."
"But you can't state it as a fact without proof."
Yes I can, sir. You do it all the time.
>
>>>>"> The Superego is that part of the mind and development that represents
>>>>> the internalized moral standards of the society and, above all, of the
>>>>> parents. Lacking finding any moral standards in the parents, or the
>>>>> parents being absent, creates a vacuum for moral standards, and the
>>>>> superego obviously leans toward internalizing the moral standards of
>>>>> peers, if having NO OTHER DIRECTION. The Superego is approximately
>>>>> equivalent to what we call "conscience." "Conscience" is an emotional
>>>>> response, and the lack of "conscience" is what drives many to commit
>>>>> murder. Those who lack the EMOTIONAL capacity of "conscience."
>>>>> Such as the Nazis lack of "conscience" in the attempted extermination
>>>>> of European Jewry."
>
> <clipped Holocaust denial>
Your white flag of surrender has been accepted sir.
"
"You insist the Nazis didn't attempt the extermination of European Jewry "
No I didn't. Are you unable to win an argument without lying?
"
That was not holocaust denial, sir.
>
>>>>> None of this argues there is such a silly thing as a "natural right to
>>>>> life human beings have." It's religious gobbledygook. And it has no
>>>>> place in arguments of morals and ethics... it only has a place in
>>>>> various churches.
>>>>
>>>>As I said before; I am not religious. However we are born with the right
>>>>to life because we are born.
>>>
>>> No proof offered. Your claim fails. Being born doesn't give anyone
>>> anything special. We are only special when we make some substantial
>>> contribution to the advance of our species, and thus the advance of
>>> evolution. This does not happen at birth, but when we do contribute
>>> to the advance of evolution. And then only "special" in terms of
>>> having made our lives either better, or more knowledgeable - providing
>>> shoulders for later geniuses to stand upon to make our lives even
>>> better. Babies are born premature and die in hours. No one gave them
>>> the "right to life." We abort ON DEMAND millions of viable fetuses
>>> and no other than me seems to give a shit about it. Liberals shout
>>> that "women have the right to DEMAND the killing of the viable fetus
>>> that lives within them," while if a women came into a doctor and
>>> demanded that her viable right arm be removed, she'd be taken away to
>>> the booby hatch. Where is that "right to life" you so proudly rave
>>> about? Where is it!!!
>>
>>Everything is born with the right to life because it is born.
>
> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
An unreferenced cit is inadmissible.
>
>>>>We are born because whatever causes the
>>>>reproductive cycle to commence gives us that right, so the same has the
>>>>right do take it away; nothing else does.
>>>
>>> That's just more of your frivolous argument. You can offer absolutely
>>> NO SCIENTIFIC PROOF of what you insist is a FACT. I don't care what
>>> your "opinion," is because everyone has an "opinion." But clearly you
>>> cannot assert something as blissfully foolish as "a right to life,"
>>> for all biological life. You certainly cannot prove it... thus your
>>> argument is based upon your religious beliefs... and you obviously
>>> become a Bible-thumper. You can't say that you're not religious
>>> when your entire argument has a bedrock based upon religion.
>>> There is absolutely no SCIENTIFIC proof of your claim, thus the
>>> only "proof" you have is this absurd belief that your God has given
>>> all biological life a "right to life." Weird... totally weird.
>>
>>I do not need to offer scientific proof.
>
> I'm sure you think you don't... after all, you think "God" talks to
> you.
>
"I'm sure you think you don't"
No, sir. I know I don't..
>>> I repeat again... offer some scientific proof of this "right to life"
>>> you presume is somehow magically given to every form of
>>> biological life by some "special being sitting on his throne,
>>> eating olives, while laughing and throwing the pits at us, and
>>> saying to himself -- "What fools these mortals be."
>>
>>No sir. I am not religios.
>>
>
> Hehe.. Your "God" will punish you for that blasphemy, against "it."
I have no god, sir but it is obvious you do as you are anticipating what it
will do.
>
>>>>> If you assert that we do have "a natural right to life," you need to
>>>>> prove it. I don't need to prove what is obvious - simply because
>>>>> murder is a common occurrence among human beings.
>>>>
>>>>"If you assert that we do have "a natural right to life," you need to
>>>>> prove it."
>>>>
>>>>No I don't.
>>>
>>> Then it doesn't exist. End of story. But why do you keep repeating
>>> my words rather than just responding to them? Good grief - you're
>>> one weird fruitcake.
>>
>>"Then it doesn't exist"
>>
>>Your logic is flawed, sir.
>>Truth exists despite pf proof, not because of it.
>>
>
> "Truth" has nothing to do with a claim of an Easter Bunny "right to
> life." Saying all you need is the "Truth without proof" is
> Bible-thumping. That's the same argument Islam offers for
> Mohammed ascending into heaven. The question is why
> does my showing you the truth engender your hatred for
> me personally?
>
Nobody mentioned the easter bunny until you did just now, dear fellow.
>>>>>"I don't need to prove what is obvious - simply because
>>>>> murder is a common occurrence among human beings"
>>>>
>>>>Your need to prove is the same as mine. In other words, it doesn't
>>>>exist.
>>>>
>>> But murder is obviously the counter argument to a "right to life,"
>>> how can anyone take away this imaginary "right to life" if given
>>> to all of us by some _higher force_? Murders exist... just because
>>> the word "life" exists doesn't mean that the word "death" doesn't
>>> exist. If there is a _force_ behind what you claim then
>>> everyone would live for exactly the same microseconds of time.
>>> Since you presume such a "right to life" is given to all biological
>>> life. Obviously not everyone becomes a victim of murder.
>>> The word "common" doesn't mean "universal," with ALL
>>> human beings. While your argument attempts to encompass
>>> all biological life.
>>
>>Murder is wrong therefore execution is wrong.
>
> Another huge logical fallacy... arguing two totally dissimilar things
> are somehow connected is an irrelevant conclusion. Murder is not
> legal execution.
>
"arguing two totally dissimilar things"
They are not dissimilar, sir. They are exactly the same. The only difference
is legality.
> Thus your comment is as meaningless as saying "murder is wrong
> therefore dancing is wrong."
You're wrong again, sir.
>
> <clip support for murder>
There was no support for murder for you to clip, sir.
>
>>> Your friends, the Nazis, used it on the Jews, and innocent people. You
>>> insist you don't remember the Nazis... You insist you don't
>>> remember the Nazis using lethal injection and gassing the Jews.
>>> yet here you are using them in your own self-interest, rather than
>>> condemning them for attempting to exterminate European Jewry. No
>>> wonder I find you to be a neo-Nazi. You use their same methods.
>>>
>>
>>The Nazis are not my frinds, sir.
>
> Wrong. You argued that in respect to the Shoah, the Jews should
> "After sixty years, it's time for them to get over it." That plays
> directly into the hands of neo-Nazis... they are you... you are them.
"Wrong."
You're wrong, dear fellow.
>
> In addition to you "remembering" that it's been sixty years, while
> you insist that you can't remember when or where or how long
> ago the Shoah occurred, because in your words -- "You cannot forget or
> remember the extermination of 6 million jews (sic) unless you remember
> them and to remember them you must have experienced them first hand."
> And yet you remember when it happened. You're a juvenile lying
> hypocrite. Filled with baloney and hyperbole. And not even clever
> enough to hide your lies and hyperbole.
>
You're guessing, sir.
>> They practice fascism, just like you. They
>>invented the lethal injection, sir and your people took it on.
>
> How could this be? You claim you don't remember the Nazis!!!
It's called an education.
>
> <clip weeping for murderers>
Your white flag of surrender has been accepted sir.
There was no weeping for you to clip.
>
>>>>> Spare me your weeping for convicted murderers.
>>>>
>>>>Why? Is your conscience bothering you? I truly doubt it.
>>>
>>> If you doubt it... why do you ask? And the answer is I sleep like
>>> a baby when I know of the death of a brutal pedophile murderer who
>>> slaughtered and raped a 24-month-old child, and tortured her by
>>> ripping out her tiny breasts with pliers, and burning her over and
>>> over, before murdering her. And the reason??? He wrote in
>>> his notebook -- "Why do I want to degrade and humiliate children?
>>> Sadism...I enjoy the humiliation. Defile the innocent. Make them
>>> scared of sex. It's dirty. I didn't have a happy childhood, neither
>>> will they...Revenge."
>>>
>>
>>Becasue there was a temporary hope that you are burned by conscience for
>>all
>>your lies but I do thik that you sleep soundly at night.
>
> Now, now... you're getting angry again.
You are not qualified to say, dear fellow.
>
>>> His name was Theodore Frank... the child's name was Amy Sue
>>> Seitz. See -
>>> http://www.wtv-zone.com/LadyMaggie/php/AmySueStory.html
>>>
>>> When I heard he had died on death row, after spending 23 years
>>> there, rather than being executed, I felt cheated and dirty...
>>> like the world had lost its morality. And yet... when I went to
>>> bed... I just feel asleep and slept like a baby... happy that such
>>> scum was no longer capable of breathing the same air that other
>>> humans breath. Society was letting him take up air... needlessly,
>>> for 23 years. And you lick your lips in a grotesque smug smile,
>>> that this murderous scum was _saved_ from execution. And
>>> then go and thump your Bible frantically and joyously, in honor
>>> of the life of Theodore Frank. While I was only thankful he
>>> was finally dead!!!
>>>
>>
>>He was clearly insane.
>
> No proof offered. Your claim fails. I hope you are not trying to
> claim that at the tender age of 17 you have already acquired the
> necessary psychological and psychiatric training to identify the
> "clearly insane." After all.. the Church insisted that Galileo was
> "clearly insane." Are you a member of that Church?
>
An unreferenced cite is inadmissible
No, sir. I recognised that your argument is.
You're guessing, sir.
>
>>>
>>>>>>"Now I see you thumping that Bible"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I gave no mention to Jehovah or to any particular diety nor did a give
>>>>>>reference to any particular doctrined or derivatives thereof.
>>>>>>Therefor
>>>>>>your term, "Thumping the bible" is another one of your innacurate
>>>>>>assertions
>>>>>
>>>>> Well then... I guess it's just the peyote you're on that's talking,
>>>>> when you start raving about "knowing the unknown."
>>>>
>>>>Your desperation appears to be growing in a logarithmic scale.
>>>
>>> Sonny, you don't know a logarithmic scale from a horse's ass.
>>
>>A curious comment considering that you nothing about my education.
>
> I know you lack a proper education. Since you admit that you refuse
> to learn about anything other than what you've personally experienced.
> Of course, that is ONLY when it comes to the Shoah, and your Holocaust
> denial. While your memory in remembering events like the Crusades and
> WW I, and the Nazis is dead-on sharp, even though you never
> experienced any of those events.
"I know "
No you do not, sir.
>
> I've always been fascinated by the Dutch and their ambivalent feelings
> toward the Jews. Less than 25% of all Dutch Jews escaped
> extermination in the Shoah. 107,000 Jews were deported to
> Auschwitz and Sobibor. Only 5,200 survived. Yet on the
> other hand, the Dutch not associated with the Dutch
> administrators and police took many chances in hiding Jews
> from the authorities, thus 25,000-30,000 Dutch Jews went
> into hiding, assisted by the Dutch underground, and 2/3 of
> those in hiding managed to survive.
>
> The story is fascinating in the microcosm of one single Jew... Anne
> Frank... who was kept in hiding by Otto Frank's former Dutch
> employees, all willing to take that chance, knowing the death
> penalty for hiding Jews... and yet betrayed by another Dutch
> person, a person never revealed.
This has nothing to do with me, sir.
>
> Just so you know the history of your country in WW II.
I already did, sir. You do not.
>
> <clip whining about religion is so great, and how happy Death Disco is
> to be a Bible-thumper>
Your white flag of surrender has been accepted, sir.
>
>>>>>>>> Executing someone for
>>>>>>>>murder is stating that we don't stand by our own values regarding
>>>>>>>>homicide. I have no stomach for such attitudes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No one asked you. Your personal feelings did not protect Colleen
>>>>>>> Reed. She was abducted from a car wash, and tortured and raped
>>>>>>> the entire night by Kenneth McDuff, who then stated that he would
>
> <clip affection for the serial-murderer Kenneth McDuff>
Your white flag of surrender has been accepted, sir.
>
>>> The willingness to accept responsibility for what one supports is the
>>> source from which all self-respect springs. Earn some self-respect
>>> and see yourself for the religious fruitcake you are. Then think for
>>> yourself and examine the world around you, and realize that one of
>>> the most foolish of thoughts is that biological life on earth is
>>> somehow graced with "the right to life," when nature shows us
>>> quite a different face. There is still time... you are still a child.
>>> You have much to learn... grasshopper.
>>
>>Responsibilty of a murder belongs to the mrderer. The resposibility of
>>reeing a madman belongs to those who freed him.
>
> So you want every murderer to be sentenced to L wop (life with
> the possibility of parole). How very primeval of you.
>
I made no such comment, my friend.
> But I believe you would rather he was committed to an institution
> for the criminally insane, where his chances of both escape or
> release would be much better. Poor Colleen Reed.
You're guessing again, sir.
>
>>>>>>" Your personal feelings did not protect Colleen Reed"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And neither did your death penalty!
>>>>>>
>>>>> That's because it wasn't used. Had it been used as originally
>>>>> decided by 12 honest citizens, Colleen Reed would be alive today.
>>>>> You can't blame the death penalty when the fact is not using
>>>>> the death penalty (a position you support) is what resulted in
>>>>> the murder of Colleen Reed, and some others. A sentence of
>>>>> life (a sentence you support rather than the death penalty) is
>>>>> what permitted Kenneth McDuff to murder Colleen Reed, and
>>>>> some others.
>>>>
>>>>Irrelevant. You death penatly does not deter.
>
> No proof offered. In fact, two DOJ studies of released murderers
> shows that those released when there was no death penalty were
> 6.6% recidivist, while those released when the death penalty was
> a strong possibility if a murderer recommitted murder were only
> 1.1% recidivist. See --
> http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr83.pdf
> and
> http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdf
>
> I love to put up statistics that I'm sure are much too complicated
> for your midget mind to comprehend.
>
"No proof offered"
Murders still happen in states that have the death penalty therefore the
death penalty does not deter.
>>>>You kill one, another takes
>>>>his place. Your death penalty increases the corpse count.
>>>
>>> Tell that to Colleen Reed. Oh, wait... you can't... she was murdered
>>> by the guy you support not having been executed. Talk about your
>>> Schadenfreude... it looks like you enjoy knowing Kenneth McDuff wasn't
>>> executed and was left to kill Colleen Reed.
>>
>>No, sir I'm "telling that" to you.
>
> The lack of the death penalty increased the corpse count of the
> innocent in these cases --
> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/doublemurderers.htm
Because they were released sir.
>
> But the innocent who are murdered by released or escaped murderers
> are not your moral concern... your "moral" concern is saving the lives
> of their murderers.
Not killing them is not "saving them", you silly man.
"Psychiatrists disagree with you"
Then your psychiatrists are idiots, sir.
>>>>>>> How's it feel to have supported the murder of Colleen Reed to
>>>>>>> save the life of Kenneth McDuff?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We oppose the death penalty.
>>>>>
>>>>> You and who else?
>>>>
>>>>Those of us whom oppose the death penalty.
>>>>
>>> Why do you oppose the death penalty for murderers who are none of your
>>> concern, since they threaten citizens of the U.S. rather than citizens
>>> of the Netherlands? I'll bet you weep for the murderer of Theo van
>>> Gogh. But that is your concern. I don't care if you throw that
>>> murderer a parade, and a week with that gorgeous coffee girl who
>>> pushed around a coffee cart in a bank in Rotterdam, 36 years ago.
>>>
>>
>>Your comment is more puerile xenophobia, dear fellow. America concerns
>>itself what other contries are doing so it is only just for other
>>countries
>>to concern themselves with what America is doing.
>
> Two wrongs still don't make a right. The fact is you contend that the
> U.S. is "wrong" to do so... but somehow end up with you being "right"
> to do so. Of course I'm talking about YOU... personally... rather
> than your nation, where I have stated that I don't give a fuck if your
> NATION gives a parade to every one of your murderers. Why can't
> YOU... personally, do the same... and keep your PERSONAL nose out of
> U.S. internal affairs?
"Two wrongs still don't make a right"
Then you admit that America is wrong, sir.
>
>>> Why do you stick your nose in what is no concern of your regarding an
>>> internal affairs issue of the U.S.? Clearly such concern can only
>>> have a religious foundation. Plus you think you're BETTER than
>>> Americans who make decisions about murderers in their country... not
>>> yours. This goes right along with my argument that you see yourself
>>> as "superior" to other humans, rather than the childish snot that you
>>> are. It's all part of your belief in an "Aryan nation concept" where
>>> you considers Americans to be uncivilized and immoral. Yet our dead
>>> stand witness to the fact that we had to rescue your sick ass from
>>> conquerors... not once... but twice in one century... See --
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/those_who_stayed_behind.jpg
>>> You ungrateful swine. Without us... you'd be speaking German.
>>
>>You country sticks it's nose into what doesn't concern them. You cannot
>>complain when others do it back at you.
>
> Own up to your own faults, and stop blaming others as an excuse for
> your faults.
I look forword to the day when you and your country admits to your faults.
That qould require wisdom from your people.
>
> You're not a country... you're a simpleton. I don't stick my nose
> into EU internal affairs... why are you so morally incompetent that
> you cannot recognize that what others do does not give you a free
> pass to do the same. It's as if you commit a crime and go before
> the judge and say "judge... that other guy committed a crime, too.
> That means I really didn't commit my crime."
"I don't stick my nose into EU internal affairs"
Your country does, sir.
>
> <clipped>
>
>>> Why do you stick your nose in what is no concern of your regarding an
>>> internal affairs issue of the U.S.? Clearly such concern can only
>>> have a religious foundation. Plus you think you're BETTER than
>>> Americans who make decisions about murderers in their country... not
>>> yours. This goes right along with my argument that you see yourself
>>> as "superior" to other humans, rather than the childish snot that you
>>> are. It's all part of your belief in an "Aryan nation concept" where
>>> you considers Americans to be uncivilized and immoral. Yet our dead
>>> stand witness to the fact that we had to rescue your sick asses from
>>> conquerors... not once... but twice in one century... See --
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/those_who_stayed_behind.jpg
>>> You ungrateful swine. Without us... you'd be speaking German.
>>
>>
>>"we had to rescue your sick asses from conquerors"
>>
>>You did not, sir?
>>
> Yes, we did, son. You ungrateful prick! Here's some more --
> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/Those_who_stay_behind.jpg
You did not, sir. You were nowhere to be seen when we needed help.
>
> How many cemeteries are in the U.S. holding no tombstones but Dutch
> who fought to free the U.S.? Answer - ZERO.
Such concerns the Dutch but is irrelevent to me and my people.
>
> Ever been to Margraten? 482,010 people visited the cemetery for
> American WW II dead during 2002.
>
No, sir.
>>>>>> If your government released on obvious madman into a situation where
>>>>>> he
>>>>>> is going to kill again then the fault is that of your government. Do
>>>>>> not try
>>>>>>to blame us for your mistakes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do not try to stop me from blaming you for your mistake of protecting
>>>>> the life of Kenneth McDuff, so he could murder... and murder... and
>>>>> murder... some say at least 16 times after his release from a death
>>>>> sentence because you opposed that death sentence.
>>>>
>>>>You do not have the authority to apportion blame. Your govenrment
>>>>released
>>>>him.
>>>>
>>> You supported it, by opposing his execution as it was originally
>>> ordered by 12 honest citizens in an open court.
>>
>>Not his release, we didn't, sir.
>
> No difference... if he had been executed, an execution you oppose, he
> would not have been able to murder some say at least 16 new innocent
> victims. That's a fact you can take to the bank. The fact is I
> didn't see you OPPOSE his release when he was released.
Wrong again, sir.
>
>>>>> How do you live with yourself, knowing your responsibility for the
>>>>> murder of Colleen Reed??? Why don't you keep your nose out of
>>>>> U.S. internal affairs? I don't mind those who complain about actions
>>>>> the U.S. takes in her foreign affairs... but it's unseemly for you to
>>>>> running your mouth off about what the U.S. does with her murderers.
>>>>> Why not worry about the genocide of six million Jews that Europe
>>>>> was responsible for?
>>>>
>>>>"How do you live with yourself, knowing your responsibility for the
>>>>> murder of Colleen Reed??? "
>>>>
>>>>I have no such responsibilty.
>>>
>>> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>>
>>Your unreferenced site is inadmissable.
>
> See --
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_McDuff
Your reference is incorrect, dear fellow.
>
>>>
>>>>Kenneth McDuff killed her after your goverment
>>>>released him. It is evidence where that bombshell lays but your ego
>>>>won't
>>>>let you see it. That is such a tragic pity.
>>>
>>> So you support all convicted murderers receiving L wop (life without
>>> parole), without exception. How very primal and barbaric... worse
>>> than a humane execution... especially for an innocent who must
>>> spend his entire life in prison, living with those only a hairbreadth
>>> from animals, knowing he is innocent. Death row is much more
>>> humane than that. Death row saved the life of Theodore Frank,
>>> because in the general prison population, with other prisoners
>>> always knowing the crime another has committed, Theodore
>>> Frank would not have lived a single year. He would have been
>>> murdered in some laundry room in the prison, or stabbed with
>>> a shank in the prison yard.
>>
>>>" How very primal and barbaric... worse than a humane execution"
>>
>>Hello. pot. Hello, pot. This is kettle calling. Can I have a colour check
>>please?
>>
>
> You think murder is funny??? You sick son-of-a-bitch! There was
> nothing funny about Kenneth McDuff, being called "the broomstick
> murderer," because he used a broomstick to crush his victim's throats.
> Tell me why L wop is better than a humane lethal injection after
> more than a decade of due process while on death row?
>
"You think murder is funny??? "
As about as funny as I see the death penalty, sir. That is not funny at all.
>>>>> Why not find a hobby, or watch Bambi, instead of whining for
>>>>> U.S. murderers?
>>>>
>>>>I have several. One of them is enjoying a good comedy. Your posts
>>>>provide
>>>>that for me, dear fellow.
>>>>
>>> I haven't seen you laugh. All I've seen is you repeating my comments
>>> and then denying... and denying... and denying... Yet the evidence is
>>> clear... in the very comments of mine that you repeat.
>>>
>>
>>"I haven't seen you laugh"
>>
>>Of course you haven't dear fellow. You haven't seen me.
>
> Yet you claimed to be laughing while "enjoying a good comedy." You're
> a real nut job... you know that??
Are you a qualified psychiatrist, sir?
J
>
>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:l6srv5togdmmppsr6...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 24 May 2010 23:37:38 +0100, "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
>> wrote:
>>
<clip neurotic raving from Death Disco>
>>>Puerile. With all sincerity I am convinced that you are not 78 years old.
>>>Your mind is dull, unfocused and your arguments are childish.
>>
>> I suspect in real life you are a rather lonely 17-year-old Dutch boy,
>> who is a virgin, afraid of the opposite sex, pimply and overweight,
>> has no friends, lacks even moderate athletic abilities, is considered
>> weird by his schoolmates, lives on junk food, spends an
>> excessive amount of time surfing porn and White Power sites,
>> and is so overly-mothered it's creepy.
>
>You already said that.
It needs repeating.... Over and over... since it appears to be quite
accurate, having brought you bellowing out of the belly of the beast.
>> I suspect you do average in school since you don't appear to be
>> retarded to me, but you certainly have deep psychological issues, and
>> an inability to relate to others when speaking in your mother-tongue,
>> thus you struggle along making mistake after mistake in the English
>> language, boring us in AADP, showing a political philosophy based upon
>> a belief in your "Aryan superiority," that you've never "seen a Black
>> person," and a refusal to accept that the extermination of six million
>> Jews in the 20th Century actually happened. In addition to arguing
>> that you do remember "the Crusades," "WW II," and "the Greeks." Just
>> what do you remember about the Greeks? Try to impress me with your
>> knowledge of Aeschylus. Do you remember even one of his plays?
>> Can you name even one of his plays? Do you remember what Crusade
>> was led by Richard the Lionheart? No fair using Google now!!
>
>You already said that.
>
>"Do you remember what Crusade
>> was led by Richard the Lionheart?"
>
>No sir. I wan't there.
Yet you stated you remember the Crusades... In fact you asked me
if I remembered the Crusades. You couldn't ask that if you didn't
remember the Crusades.
>> However, I can prove my creds. As I've had to do more than once
>> when confronted with an immature uneducated youth. See -
>>
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/birth_certificate.jpg
>> Born Feb 1, 1932.
>>
>> My University of Maryland Bachelor's degree. Magna Cum Laude --
>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Maryland.jpg
>>
>> My Boston University Master's degree
>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Boston.jpg
>>
>> My Boston University Master's degree transcript. All A's, 1 B.
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/Transcript.jpg
>>
>> My Military Retirement Certificate after 20 years in the U.S. Military
>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Retirement.jpg
>>
>> I have blocked out various personal information such as
>> my Social Security Number.
>>
>> Now let's see YOUR proof, if you're not afraid.
>>
>>
>> *deathly silence*
>
>You said all that alread, sir. What a poor memory you must have.
And yet... there is still that "deathly silence" from you... except
for your sobbing while curled up in the fetal position in the corner
of your small room.
<clipped some more sobbing>
>>>>>As I said, "Maturity is a subjective term;"
>>>>
>>>> Stating the obvious isn't necessary. I'm well aware of the difference
>>>> between objective and subjective. In fact, I've been trying to teach
>>>> your hard head the difference for about a week now. "Prejudice"
>>>> is also a subjective term. Yet you seem terribly confused about it...
>>>> using your buzzword "static," which you apparently think is
>>>> some sort of aphorism, rather than vacuous nonsense.
>>>
>>>"Prejudice" is a static "WORD".
>>
>> There is no such thing. The only "static" that can exist in a word
>> is the static of random and garbed meaningless noise. All your
>> comments contain a great number of _static words_.
>
>It is therefor obvious that your career plans no more involve electrical
>engineering than they do law or anything to do with the English language.
ROTFLMAO. Tell me, sport. Since you claim to be so fucking smart.
What is the theoretical electromagnetic resonant frequency in Hz of a
20 cm quarter-wave-length transmission line, presuming the velocity of
light is exactly 300,000,000 meters/per second, and no other factors
affect this resonant frequency? In practical application this would
be the initial frequency applied and then balanced slightly to account
for other parameters such as light not being exactly 300,000,000
meters/per second, using inductive and capacitive reactance much too
complicated for you to understand. Thus there is no need to consider
such slight differences.
Now this theoretical frequency is a simple problem in arithmetic if
one understands the question. And you should be able to compute it in
your head, and not need to even resort to paper and pen, or a
computer.
>>>Perhaps the use of caps will help you around your obvious learning
>>>difficulty.
>>
>> You can't prove your silly argument. How long has it been since
>> you were weaned? Answer the question, without using a question.
>> Bet you can't do it.
>
>I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything.
So you can't answer the question. Why did I already know that if
I'm not smart?
Meaning you agree that your argument is sophistry, and that you are
an insolent, self-centered childish brat, who accepts only what he
wants to accept... like a baby who spits our strained peas his mother
tries to feed him. And then you wonder why I find you to be a
17-year-old juvenile delinquent.
>>>It's your
>>>arrogance that pushes to to actually rewrite the word.
>>
>> You're the one having rewritten the word to suit your own childish
>> ego, while having absolutely no proof of your argument. The
>> only use of "static" in describing any word is "electrical or acoustic
>> activity that can disturb communication." And you try that
>> with just about every word you offer. Words either convey the
>> meaning of an "object," thus "objective,' or they convey the
>> meaning of a "mental abstraction," thus "subjective."
>>
>
>Nonsense. I use "Static" in a correct context.
No proof offered. Your claim fails.
Saying it, is not proving it. Unless you abide by the diktat of
Hitler, who insisted that �Make the lie big, make it simple, keep
saying it, and eventually they will believe it�
>>>> In fact, I do not redefine definitions. I use them as weapons to
>>>> crush idiots like you, who have little knowledge of the English
>>>> language, and thus distort words in a biased effort to twist to your
>>>> own sick agenda.
>>>
>>>You repeatidly and deliberately misuse dictionary definition regardless of
>>>that you have cobnsulted a dictionary but you change them anyway.
>>
>> I put the definitions up... and you simply ignore them as if they do
>> not exist. How can I possibly deal with someone who speaks gibberish,
>> and insists the English language is made as he desires to make it, not
>> as it actually exists?
>>
>
>You change them, sir.
No proof offered. Your claim fails.
Saying it, is not proving it. Unless you abide by the diktat of
Hitler, who insisted that �Make the lie big, make it simple, keep
saying it, and eventually they will believe it�
Oh, wait... you do abide by that diktat.
>>>Then you hold the sword by the blade sir and cut of your own fingers in
>>>the attempt. Your practice is done because you cannot win your argument and
>>>thus your resort to xenophobia but it backfired on you where I am concerned as
>>>I suspect it has with many before me.
>>>
>> ROTFLMAO. You're sick, son. Ask your mommy to make an appointment
>> with the nearest psychiatrist. Plus look up the definition of
>> "xenophobia," since it has nothing to do with this argument. In point
>> of fact you suffer from eisoptrophobia.... A fear of examining your
>> own inner hate and rage for one so young, in fearing to look into
>> mirrors, and see yourself as others see you.
>
>"mommy" is that an American word?
It is a word in the Oxford English Dictionary... the "supreme Arbiter"
of the English language. It means "mom, momma." While it is noted
as a "Chiefly U.S." word. Yet it is recognized in that master work of
the English language.
>"Xenophobia is the uncontrollable fear of foreigners.[1] It comes from the
>Greek words ????? (xenos), meaning "stranger," "foreigner" and ?????
>(phobos), meaning "fear." Xenophobia can manifest itself in many ways
>involving the relations and perceptions of an ingroup towards an outgroup,
>including a fear of losing identity, suspicion of its activities,
>aggression, and desire to eliminate its presence to secure a presumed
>purity.[2] Xenophobia can also be exhibited in the form of an "uncritical
>exaltation of another culture" in which a culture is ascribed "an unreal,
>stereotyped and exotic quality".["
>
>Cite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia
>Wikpedia.
>accessed: 27/05/10.
>
>I was correct as always, dear sir. the word "Xenophobia" was perfectly
>germane to my argument.
If you mean does it describe YOUR methods, then there is no question
that it applies to YOU. For example, just now you questioned the
source of the word "mommy." That's definitely an example of your
xenophobia -- "fear of foreigners." While your Bible-thumping raving
about a death penalty for murderers in a land foreign to you,
certainly expresses a "relations and perceptions of an ingroup"
toward those you consider an outgroup (the U.S.).
As I've continued to point out... I don't give a fuck if every nation
in the EU holds a parade for each and every one of their murderers. So
that is hardly xenophobic. Why are you suspicious of what the U.S.
does with her murderers? Why do you offer an "uncritical exaltation"
of your society, and presume there is some "purity" in saving the
lives of every murderer? Why do you fear the fact that the U.S.
executed about 1,100 murderers in more than 30 years, while
a nation in the EU was responsible for the genocide of six million
Jews in WW II, and the more recent genocides in the former
Yugoslavia, and the genocide of the Tutsis by the Hutus?
Can't you people get along??
It's been 120 years since we had a massacre in the U.S. (wounded
knee. which ended up with 146 men, women and children killed).
Sad to say that I cannot say the same about Europe (6 million
Jews exterminated, with an equal number of others exterminated
in the Nazi killing machine) and your country (107,000 Dutch Jews sent
to Auschwitz... only 5,200 survived). You should be ashamed of
your history. Claiming you can't "remember it," is no excuse for
forgetting it.
>> Clearly just one psychiatrist would not be enough in your case. You're
>> a case for a textbook to be written about nothing but your mental
>> aberrations. You need an entire wing at the best psychiatric hospital
>> in Vienna, Austria, accompanied by an around the clock team of the
>> best psychiatric minds in the world examining nothing but your case.
>>
>
>Puerile.
You're in a rut, my boy... why not try using a thesaurus, and come up
with some more inventive words. You frenetic, stupid, disingenuous,
gormless, choleric, ignoble, foolish, craven, idiotic, vacuous,
empty-headed, vapid, nefarious, bilious, witless, moronic, hedonistic,
smarmy, nihilist, xenophobic brain-dead demagogue. And those were
just a starter set.
ROTFLMAO. If there were a "God" he would strike you down for even
using the word "logical" considering you abuse that concept
continuously. Not once... not one fucking time... have you offered
a "logical" argument. You're a book-burner when you don't want to
understand... you're a lie when it suits your argument.... you're a
denier when it comes to the extermination of six million Jews...
you're sick as you try to tell the Jews that "it's been 60 years so
they should get over it"... you're a Bible-thumper and a xenophobe
when it comes to the U.S. death penalty, and you're a character
from "Alice in Wonderland" when you insist that "something higher than
ourselves" has whispered in your ear that "it" has given an "Easter
Bunny "right to life" to all biological life.
Hey, sport... tell me what this "something than ourselves" whispered
in your ear that no one else could hear? This should be good.
Let's try a little thought experiment. There is your little baby...
and there is this huge cockroach (cockroaches are known to carry more
than 50 disease causing organisms) approaching her. Your only
chance of that cockroach not crawling over your little baby rests
with your shoe. You can only step on it and kill the cockroach or
see that it is crawling over your baby's body, and get it off gently
rather than hurt your baby or the cockroach in the process. The
question -- Do you step on that cockroach (and become a murderer
according to you), or do you let that cockroach crawl on your baby
while you run to get some kind of paper or something to remove that
cockroach gently to avoid hurting your baby and that cockroach?
After all... according to you your baby and that cockroach are the
same... your baby is not superior in any way to that poor cockroach.
In that consideration you might step on your baby if your baby
appeared to be threatening the cockroach. Or maybe you would
just "kick" your baby like a football to save that poor cockroach.
After all, the baby is more likely to survive being kicked across the
room than the cockroach if stepping on the cockroach.
>>>> You're not happy merely assassinating the English language, you
>>>> want to crucify it before murdering it.
>>>
>>>Another one of your puerile response.
>>
>> Another one of your mindless drivel responses. Is "puerile" a
>> new word you've discovered?
>
>Puerile.
Thanks for answering the question with your agreement.
Can you cite the British law that convicts someone of murder, if they
kill in recognized self-defense? Since wikipedia says you are full of
shit (or shite, if you prefer). See -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-defence_in_English_law
Quote -- "In English criminal law, the defence of self-defence
provides for the right of people to act in a manner that would be
otherwise unlawful in order to preserve the physical integrity of
themselves or others or to prevent any crime"
quod erat demonstrandum: Death Disco is full of shit (or shite if you
prefer)
>> Obviously -- IF YOU ARE CONVICTED you have committed a
>> crime. Thus that is not "homicide." Being convicted of a crime
>> associated with homicide automatically makes it at least manslaughter.
>> No indictment for a crime reads "homicide." It is a medical
>> term, not a legal term referring to the way a person has died. He
>> has been killed by another person, while whether it was legal or not,
>> is an entirely different can of worms. See --
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide
>> Quote -- "Homicide is not always an illegal act."
>>
>
>In Britain, a person can go to prison for killing in self defense. They
>generally do.
Wrong -- See --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-defence_in_English_law
Apparently you just use your imagination in your arguments, and
don't even bother with the truth. To you... like to Hitler... the
TRUTH is just an inconvenience if it conflicts with your agenda.
>> Manslaughter, however, is a crime... Homicide is NOT a crime,
>> unless it is determined that a crime was committed. Self-defense
>> is not a crime, and no killing that is determined by the state
>> prosecutor as self-defense is a crime.
>
>In Britain, killing a person in self defence is manslaughter and
>manslaughter is a crime. Very few avoid a custodial sentence.
>
Wrong -- See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-defence_in_English_law
Apparently you just use your imagination in your arguments, and
don't even bother with the truth. To you... like to Hitler... the
TRUTH is just an inconvenience if it conflicts with your agenda.
Why don't you try something new... Like telling the truth?
<clip raving hysterical denial of the truth>
>>>>"Homicide does not necessarily
>>>> involve deliberation. But it can. Deliberation under the law
>>>> is a very complex issue. There can be deliberation in homicide,
>>>> and manslaughter, and murder. While there be a lack of
>>>> deliberation in homicide and manslaughter. Murder must show
>>>> deliberation. Why is this so hard for you to grasp??? Is the
>>>> retention of facts really that difficult for you.
>>>
>>>You seem to spend a lot of time answering questions that nobody asked them
>>>reprimanding them for not knowing the answer and this is without the
>>>courtesy of bothering to find out if they do know the answer. Puerile
>>
>> Heh... tough shit, kid. You're the ignoramus who insisted "If a
>> person deliberatly (sic) kills another then it is murder."
>
>Only on you, dear fellow. Such exposes your stupidity.
>
I'm not the one having offered the incredibly ignorance comment that
"If a person deliberatly (sic) kills another then it is murder." You
offered that incredibly ignorant comment, and don't have a leg to
stand on. I'll bet if YOU had to kill someone in self-defense that
you'd be the first one screaming of innocence.
>>>> There is no mention of homicide being "legal" or "illegal." The only
>>>> way that manslaughter and homicide can be considered synonyms is
>>>> if one prefaces the word "homicide," with the word "illegal."
>>>> "illegal homicide" can be either manslaughter or murder. "legal
>>>> homicide," is considered justifiable homicide, and it includes the
>>>> legal death penalty, killing in clear self-defense, and various other
>>>> cases in which society determines the killing was necessary, such as a
>>>> sniper killing a terrorist who has taken hostages and threatens to
>>>> murder them.
>>>>
>>>> Homicide is the ONLY term that can be used to describe a legal
>>>> killing. And it usually needs an adjective to state whether it was
>>>> "legal" or "illegal." But lacking that adjective it is considered
>>>> "legal" because it lacks the definition of "illegal."
>>>
>>>For one that redefines so many terms to suit yourself, your hipocrisy is
>>>nothing short of ironic.
>>
>> You're the only one "redefining" terms, such as calling a word
>> "static." And claiming that "If a person deliberatly (sic) kills
>> another then it is murder."
>>
>Your guessing, sir. the least you can do is to look up the word, "static".
>You can do that can you?
Already been there. There is no question that the word "prejudice" is
not "static." The word "static" has no meaning in any context of
describing the actions or objects that words define. One needs only
look at the definition of the word "prejudice" to see that there is no
mention of that word being "static." Thus you simply invented that
argument. Various synonyms to the word "prejudice" are bigotry, bias,
partisanship, partiality, intolerance, discrimination, unfairness,
inequality. None of those words convey any idea of "static," and
none of those words have the word "static" in any of their
definitions. It's a meaningless word in the context in which you try
to use it. And you use it only in the hope you can wiggle out of
having made a fool of yourself in the difference between "objective,"
and "subjective."
<clip more hysterical raving from the Bubble-boy who has been deprived
of any intellect whatsoever>
>>>Yes I do.I'll bet you don't know what bayes theorum, linear regression mean,
>>>and I suspect you do not know the magic number in the plume encryption
>>>algorythm. Most of these can be looked up in google.
>>>You can find this at http://www.google.com. I can show you some examples
>>>if
>>>you like. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actus_reus ,
>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_rea
>>>Now you can look them up yourself instead of having me do you work for
>>>you.
>>
>> My boy, I was solving differential equations before you were born.
>> Probably before your parents were born. And it's "algorithms." I
>> was working with slide rules, rather than calculators, before you were
>> born. I could eat you up and spit you out.
>
>Was that when you last did any?
>
>>" Probably before your parents were born. And it's "algorithms." I
>> was working with slide rules, rather than calculators, before you were
>> born. I could eat you up and spit you out. "
>
>A curious comment considering that you know nothing about my education.
Well... let's check it out --
Since you claim to be so fucking educated, I'll ask again. What is
the theoretical electromagnetic resonant frequency in Hz of a 20 cm
quarter-wave-length transmission line, presuming the velocity of light
is exactly 300,000,000 meters/per second, and no other factors affect
this resonant frequency?
This is a simple problem in arithmetic if one understands the
question. And you should be able to compute it in your head, and
not need to even resort to paper and pen, or a computer. You
shouldn't even need "the back of an envelope."
>> Nor do I have to consult wikipedia to know what mens rea and actus
>> reus mean. But obviously you had to look it up.
<clip vacuous repeating of my comment>
>What you are saying to me is that you did not do any research. This explains
>why you get so many words wrong. I suggest you buy a dictionary, sir.
>
<clip vacuous repeating of my comment>
>
>At some point I did, yes. It's called research. It's how most people learn
>words which is considerably more than your method of guessing them, dear
>fellow.
Then you should look up the word "prejudice" and see what a fool
you are, and how it describes your anti-Semitism perfectly.
>>>>>>>The age of the
>>>>>>>criminal makes the crime any less real.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Errr... what are you trying to say??? The age of the criminal DOES
>>>>>> NOT make the crime any less real.
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes.
>>>>
>>>> That isn't what you wrote, stupid. I was correcting your comment.
>>>
>>>I know, stupid. You did not correct the comment, you copied it and
>>>corrected the copy.
>>
>> Right... thanks for agreeing with me. I was correcting your comment.
>
>You are so in need of attention that you beg just once for someone to agree
>with you. How lonely you must be. Regretably you were not correcting my
>comment, you were correcting your copy of my comment. without a proper cite.
So you stand by your original comment of -- "The age of the criminal
makes the crime any less real." Now could you tell me what the fuck
that is saying???
>>>>>>>> In any case, the criminal justice system is not based 100% on
>>>>>>>> punishment, but on public safety, and rehabilitation as well, and a
>>>>>>>> child has a much greater capacity to be possibly rehabilitated then
>>>>>>>> does a hardened adult life-time criminal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The death penalty is purly for public revenge and nothing more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong. Every criminal statute in the U.S. qualifies the death penalty
>>>>>> as an instrument of public safety, where it exists in criminal
>>>>>> statutes. That is the bedrock purpose of a criminal justice system,
>>>>>> other than those such as Islamic Sharia. Punishment is simply
>>>>>> considers a means to create better public safety. The death penalty
>>>>>> is simply another punishment in the U.S. criminal justice system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Nonsence.
>>>>
>>>> No proof offered your claim fails. BTW -- your answer is "nonsense."
>>>
>>>Cite please.
>>
>> Sure. See --
>> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/nonsense
>> "Nonsense" -- "Words or signs having no intelligible meaning."
>
>You posted only one and you did that one wrong.
>It has been a while since you've been in education I'd wager.
Not really. My education has been a lifetime. I certainly didn't
stop when I retired. And during my professional career I was always
required to educate myself on new equipment and changes in
cryptographic standards, and how new hardware implemented those
standards. After all, I spent 20 years in Europe after I retired from
the military, working as a cilia technical advisor to NATO, USAREUR,
and USAFE...in a variety of functions, including technical support
when equipment failed, and security requirements to meet cryptographic
security standards.
In addition my home library is quite extensive -- See-
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/library.mov
And I am a voracious reader.
That however, is only a small part of my total library, since it does
not include technical works which I maintain in my computer room.
Which can be seen here --
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Library.JPG
I got it dead-on. Two innocent men died in prison, who were not
sentenced to the death penalty. How many innocent men can you
prove died with the death penalty since Gregg v. Georgia? Answer:
Zero. So if you're concerned about saving innocent men from dying
in prison you should oppose sending ANY MAN to prison for ANY
CRIME... since the possibility of any of those innocents dying in
prison are much greater than an innocent being executed. In other
words you're a Bible-thumping xenophobic puerile hypocrite.
>>>" If we had a perfect justice
>>>> system we would not convict the innocent, and we would never
>>>> permit an innocent to die in prison.
>>>
>>>You do not have a perfect justice system.
>>
>> That's because there is no such thing as "a perfect justice system."
>
>This is an strong argument fo the abolishment of the death penalty.
Total mindless drivel. If you're looking for a "perfect criminal
justice system," and there is no such thing, then YOU are arguing for
the abolition of the "criminal justice system." And only a fool would
argue that.
>>>>"And yet, both of those happen
>>>> rather routinely. While there is no evidence that an innocent has
>>>> been executed since the death penalty was reinstated 30 years ago,
>>>> in Gregg v. Georgia. We accept the fact that we will make mistakes
>>>> in the criminal justice system because it is impossible to be
>>>> absolutely sure of guilt. That is why we have the standard of "beyond
>>>> a reasonable doubt." If we had no standard at all, or a standard
>>>> which demanded absolute proof of guilt who could convict no one.
>>>> And the guilty would laugh in our face and continue their murderous
>>>> rampage.
>>>"
>>>
>>>You said it yourself, " If we had a perfect justice system". You then
>>>accept that you do not? An imperfect justice system should not include the
>>>death penalty
>>
>> Why not? You accept that the innocent die in prison... so what's the
>> difference in accepting a death penalty that is mathematically
>> impossible to be absolutely perfect? If you wish to stop every
>> innocent from ever dying in prison you have to argue abolishing
>> the justice system... not the death penalty... which has so far
>> provided no evidence of an innocent being executed.. while
>> innocents die every day in prison, and you don't care about THEM!
>>
>
>"Why not?"
>
>Becasue the justice system is imperfect, dear fellow.
So you want to remove the criminal justice system entirely, and let
criminals never be stopped. You're absolutely insane to argue
that. Even you must see that such an argument is total insanity.
>>> and a perfect justice system would not include the death
>>>penalty.
>>
>> Once again arguing from a false premise... there is no such thing
>> as "a perfect justice system." Innocents are convicted probably
>> every day in some court somewhere in the U.S. Shall we let
>> all the criminals remain free because of the chance of an innocent
>> dying in prison? Or do you argue abolish the U.S. criminal
>> justice system and let the criminals continue on their way.
>
>My premise is quite correct. If there were a perfect justice system it would
>not have a death penalty.
Proven to be a lie. A TOTAL LIE. I've already showed you an
example of an imperfect justice system even if there were no death
penalty. Innocents, NOT sentenced to the death penalty, die in prison
every day. Apparently you are willing to let them die, and call it
"perfect."
> Any imperfect justice system which includes all off
>them should not inclde a death penalty.
What the fuck are you raving about? Exactly what language are you
trying to communicate in, sport?
>>>>>You can deceive yourself if you desire
>>>>>with your "reason for the death penalty being exclusively public safety"
>>>>>nonsense if you choose but you cannot deceive me with it. Your death
>>>>>penalty
>>>>>is to satisfy the public's lust for blood.
>>>>
>>>> You're the one deceiving yourself. I have proof. See --
>>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/doublemurderers.htm
>>>> Here are just a few of the murderers who appear well qualified for
>>>> the death penalty before they managed to be sentenced to life in
>>>> prison instead, and after that still went on murderous rampages.
>>>> Further, of 3,258 previously convicted murderers who were released
>>>> 6.6% or about 215 of them were recidivist for another murder. See -
>>>> http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr83.pdf
>>>
>>>You people can't get anything right can you? You either pop them or let
>>>them
>>>go.
>>
>> Nonetheless... they also kill fellow prisoners and guards. Are you
>> claiming that fellow prisoners and guards who are murdered by
>> murderers are _expendable_ to protect the lives of those who murder
>> them?
>
>I oppose the death penalty sir, which includes guards and fellow prisoners.
I don't believe you! I don't believe you oppose the murder of guards
and fellow prisoners by murderers in prison, if there is no death
penalty for those murderers. You call it "a perfect justice system"
if they get murdered by murderers if there is no death penalty.
You are quite willing to TRADE the lives of guards and fellow
prisoners for the lives of murderers in the interest of your scheme to
save the lives of murderers in a country which you know nothing about.
It's all in your selfish belief in your "superiority." That God-damn
"Aryan race" belief of yours, that you're better than those in other
countries, and can decide for those other countries what they MUST
be with their murderers, regardless of how many guards or fellow
prisoners such murderers murder. That God-damn Bible thumping,
arguing God whispered in your ear about some Easter Bunny "right
to life for cockroaches," and that "Aryan race" belief of yours that
shows the root cause of your anti-Semitism, and Holocaust denial.
>>>>>>> The retentionists use public safety as an excuse to justify
>>>>>>> execution. If
>>>>>>>not there would be fewer executions as so many of those on death row
>>>>>>>can be
>>>>>>>rehabilitaed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No proof offered. Your claim fails. How come these murderers could
>>>>>> not be rehabilitated? ==
>>>>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/doublemurderers.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Is that really your best argument? I truly hope not.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So those innocent victims are irrelevant to you. That's your best
>>>> argument. Victims don't matter... as long as you can whine for
>>>> the lives of their murderers.
>>>
>>>Your arguments lack logical flow.
>>
>> TRANSLATION: "Your arguments lack logical flow."
Well, I'm glad you finally realize that your argument lacks logical
flow.
"> But you're no longer worth my time"
Curios. You announce that we are done but you reply to one of my posts
afterwards. This is strange.
>>
>>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>news:l6srv5togdmmppsr6...@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 24 May 2010 23:37:38 +0100, "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>
> <clip neurotic raving from Death Disco>
I have already accepted your flag of surrender, sir.
>
>>>>Puerile. With all sincerity I am convinced that you are not 78 years
>>>>old.
>>>>Your mind is dull, unfocused and your arguments are childish.
>>>
>>> I suspect in real life you are a rather lonely 17-year-old Dutch boy,
>>> who is a virgin, afraid of the opposite sex, pimply and overweight,
>>> has no friends, lacks even moderate athletic abilities, is considered
>>> weird by his schoolmates, lives on junk food, spends an
>>> excessive amount of time surfing porn and White Power sites,
>>> and is so overly-mothered it's creepy.
>>
>>You already said that.
>
> It needs repeating.... Over and over... since it appears to be quite
> accurate, having brought you bellowing out of the belly of the beast.
Nothing needs repeating over and over, my friend. Repetition has no relation
to accuracy.
Saying that, however;
Curios. You announce that we are done but you reply to one of my posts
afterwards. This is strange.
>
>>> I suspect you do average in school since you don't appear to be
>>> retarded to me, but you certainly have deep psychological issues, and
>>> an inability to relate to others when speaking in your mother-tongue,
>>> thus you struggle along making mistake after mistake in the English
>>> language, boring us in AADP, showing a political philosophy based upon
>>> a belief in your "Aryan superiority," that you've never "seen a Black
>>> person," and a refusal to accept that the extermination of six million
>>> Jews in the 20th Century actually happened. In addition to arguing
>>> that you do remember "the Crusades," "WW II," and "the Greeks." Just
>>> what do you remember about the Greeks? Try to impress me with your
>>> knowledge of Aeschylus. Do you remember even one of his plays?
>>> Can you name even one of his plays? Do you remember what Crusade
>>> was led by Richard the Lionheart? No fair using Google now!!
>>
>>You already said that.
>>
>>"Do you remember what Crusade
>>> was led by Richard the Lionheart?"
>>
>>No sir. I wan't there.
>
> Yet you stated you remember the Crusades... In fact you asked me
> if I remembered the Crusades. You couldn't ask that if you didn't
> remember the Crusades.
"Yet you stated you remember the Crusades"
No I didn't, sir. However.
Curios. You announce that we are done but you reply to one of my posts
afterwards. This is strange.
>
>>> However, I can prove my creds. As I've had to do more than once
>>> when confronted with an immature uneducated youth. See -
>>>
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/birth_certificate.jpg
>>> Born Feb 1, 1932.
>>>
>>> My University of Maryland Bachelor's degree. Magna Cum Laude --
>>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Maryland.jpg
>>>
>>> My Boston University Master's degree
>>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Boston.jpg
>>>
>>> My Boston University Master's degree transcript. All A's, 1 B.
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/Transcript.jpg
>>>
>>> My Military Retirement Certificate after 20 years in the U.S. Military
>>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Retirement.jpg
>>>
>>> I have blocked out various personal information such as
>>> my Social Security Number.
>>>
>>> Now let's see YOUR proof, if you're not afraid.
>>>
>>>
>>> *deathly silence*
>>
>>You said all that alread, sir. What a poor memory you must have.
>
> And yet... there is still that "deathly silence" from you... except
> for your sobbing while curled up in the fetal position in the corner
> of your small room.
"And yet... there is still that "deathly silence" from you... "
The deathly silence was from you, sir. It did not come from me. If you
cannot win your arguments without lying or name calling then you should not
be allowed to take part.
Did I mention, "Curios. You announce that we are done but you reply to one
of my posts afterwards. This is strange."?
I make no such claim, sir. I might also claim that one does not have to be
particularlly smart to beat you in debate, dear fellow but that would be a
puerile comment, so I won't.
"What is the theoretical electromagnetic resonant frequency in Hz of a 20
cm quarter-wave-length transmission line"
Interesting question, dear sir, but an easy one.
Lets see. c=speed of light or 299792458 meters per second, lamda you
requested is 20cm or 0.2 meters and you wanted quarter wave so I am assuming
you a constructing a vertical antenna; so the forumula we need is here
((c/Lamda)/4) which is ((299792458/0.2)/4) the answer you are looking for is
374740572.5 Cs approximately or 374.7405725 MCs. And don't even think of
trying to pretend it's wrong. Sir. Now it's my turn
Given you have a low pass filter with a resistor of 31830 ohms, and a
capacitor of 1 Nano Farad. at frequency of 500 Cs what is the DB loss and
the phase angle? You will have to work out the reactance first, sir.
>
> Now this theoretical frequency is a simple problem in arithmetic if
> one understands the question. And you should be able to compute it in
> your head, and not need to even resort to paper and pen, or a
> computer.
>
"Now this theoretical frequency is a simple problem in arithmetic "
Very simple, sir. I'm amazed you chose not to gave me one on Ohm's law. My
question to you is slightly more complicated but I'm sure you can crack it.
>>>>Perhaps the use of caps will help you around your obvious learning
>>>>difficulty.
>>>
>>> You can't prove your silly argument. How long has it been since
>>> you were weaned? Answer the question, without using a question.
>>> Bet you can't do it.
>>
>>I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything.
>
> So you can't answer the question. Why did I already know that if
> I'm not smart?
>
You're guessing again, sir.
Curios. You announce that we are done but you reply to one of my posts
afterwards. This is strange.
You're guessing again, sir.
>
>>>>It's your
>>>>arrogance that pushes to to actually rewrite the word.
>>>
>>> You're the one having rewritten the word to suit your own childish
>>> ego, while having absolutely no proof of your argument. The
>>> only use of "static" in describing any word is "electrical or acoustic
>>> activity that can disturb communication." And you try that
>>> with just about every word you offer. Words either convey the
>>> meaning of an "object," thus "objective,' or they convey the
>>> meaning of a "mental abstraction," thus "subjective."
>>>
>>
>>Nonsense. I use "Static" in a correct context.
>
> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
An unreferenced cite is inadmissible.
>
> Saying it, is not proving it. Unless you abide by the diktat of
> Hitler, who insisted that "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep
> saying it, and eventually they will believe it"
I have no obligation to prove my arguments.
>
>>>>> In fact, I do not redefine definitions. I use them as weapons to
>>>>> crush idiots like you, who have little knowledge of the English
>>>>> language, and thus distort words in a biased effort to twist to your
>>>>> own sick agenda.
>>>>
>>>>You repeatidly and deliberately misuse dictionary definition regardless
>>>>of
>>>>that you have cobnsulted a dictionary but you change them anyway.
>>>
>>> I put the definitions up... and you simply ignore them as if they do
>>> not exist. How can I possibly deal with someone who speaks gibberish,
>>> and insists the English language is made as he desires to make it, not
>>> as it actually exists?
>>>
>>
>>You change them, sir.
>
> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
An unreferenced cite is inadmissible.
>
> Saying it, is not proving it. Unless you abide by the diktat of
> Hitler, who insisted that "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep
> saying it, and eventually they will believe it"
>
> Oh, wait... you do abide by that diktat.
>
You're guessing again, sir.
>>>>Then you hold the sword by the blade sir and cut of your own fingers in
>>>>the attempt. Your practice is done because you cannot win your argument
>>>>and
>>>>thus your resort to xenophobia but it backfired on you where I am
>>>>concerned as
>>>>I suspect it has with many before me.
>>>>
>>> ROTFLMAO. You're sick, son. Ask your mommy to make an appointment
>>> with the nearest psychiatrist. Plus look up the definition of
>>> "xenophobia," since it has nothing to do with this argument. In point
>>> of fact you suffer from eisoptrophobia.... A fear of examining your
>>> own inner hate and rage for one so young, in fearing to look into
>>> mirrors, and see yourself as others see you.
>>
>>"mommy" is that an American word?
>
> It is a word in the Oxford English Dictionary... the "supreme Arbiter"
> of the English language. It means "mom, momma." While it is noted
> as a "Chiefly U.S." word. Yet it is recognized in that master work of
> the English language.
". noun (pl. mommies) North American term for MUMMY"
Cite: http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/mommy?view=uk
author: www.askoxford.com"
Date of access: 29th may 2010.
I was correct, sir. It is American for "Mummy"
>
>>"Xenophobia is the uncontrollable fear of foreigners.[1] It comes from the
>>Greek words ????? (xenos), meaning "stranger," "foreigner" and ?????
>>(phobos), meaning "fear." Xenophobia can manifest itself in many ways
>>involving the relations and perceptions of an ingroup towards an outgroup,
>>including a fear of losing identity, suspicion of its activities,
>>aggression, and desire to eliminate its presence to secure a presumed
>>purity.[2] Xenophobia can also be exhibited in the form of an "uncritical
>>exaltation of another culture" in which a culture is ascribed "an unreal,
>>stereotyped and exotic quality".["
>>
>>Cite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia
>>Wikpedia.
>>accessed: 27/05/10.
>>
>>I was correct as always, dear sir. the word "Xenophobia" was perfectly
>>germane to my argument.
>
> If you mean does it describe YOUR methods, then there is no question
> that it applies to YOU. For example, just now you questioned the
> source of the word "mommy." That's definitely an example of your
> xenophobia -- "fear of foreigners." While your Bible-thumping raving
> about a death penalty for murderers in a land foreign to you,
> certainly expresses a "relations and perceptions of an ingroup"
> toward those you consider an outgroup (the U.S.).
"If you mean does it describe YOUR methods"
No, sir.I mean it describe your methods.
If you cannot argue without lying then you should not be allowed to play at
all.
>
> As I've continued to point out... I don't give a fuck if every nation
> in the EU holds a parade for each and every one of their murderers. So
> that is hardly xenophobic. Why are you suspicious of what the U.S.
> does with her murderers? Why do you offer an "uncritical exaltation"
> of your society, and presume there is some "purity" in saving the
> lives of every murderer? Why do you fear the fact that the U.S.
> executed about 1,100 murderers in more than 30 years, while
> a nation in the EU was responsible for the genocide of six million
> Jews in WW II, and the more recent genocides in the former
> Yugoslavia, and the genocide of the Tutsis by the Hutus?
> Can't you people get along??
"I don't give a fuck if every nation in the EU holds a parade for each and
every one of their murderers. So that is hardly xenophobic"
By your own logic, it is, sir.
>
> It's been 120 years since we had a massacre in the U.S. (wounded
> knee. which ended up with 146 men, women and children killed).
> Sad to say that I cannot say the same about Europe (6 million
> Jews exterminated, with an equal number of others exterminated
> in the Nazi killing machine) and your country (107,000 Dutch Jews sent
> to Auschwitz... only 5,200 survived). You should be ashamed of
> your history. Claiming you can't "remember it," is no excuse for
> forgetting it.
>
The USA is about 300 years old, give or take. Europe spreads over many
millennia, dear sir. In perspective, your people have had thier fair share
of bloodshed, sir.
>>> Clearly just one psychiatrist would not be enough in your case. You're
>>> a case for a textbook to be written about nothing but your mental
>>> aberrations. You need an entire wing at the best psychiatric hospital
>>> in Vienna, Austria, accompanied by an around the clock team of the
>>> best psychiatric minds in the world examining nothing but your case.
>>>
>>
>>Puerile.
>
> You're in a rut, my boy... why not try using a thesaurus, and come up
> with some more inventive words. You frenetic, stupid, disingenuous,
> gormless, choleric, ignoble, foolish, craven, idiotic, vacuous,
> empty-headed, vapid, nefarious, bilious, witless, moronic, hedonistic,
> smarmy, nihilist, xenophobic brain-dead demagogue. And those were
> just a starter set.
>
"Puerile." will do just fine, sir. It describes around 95% of your debate,
You pray to a god to strike me down for correcting your English, sir? Hardly
the response of an athiest.
>
> Hey, sport... tell me what this "something than ourselves" whispered
> in your ear that no one else could hear? This should be good.
>
You hear whisperings in your ear, sir? You should see someone about that.
> Let's try a little thought experiment. There is your little baby...
> and there is this huge cockroach (cockroaches are known to carry more
> than 50 disease causing organisms) approaching her. Your only
> chance of that cockroach not crawling over your little baby rests
> with your shoe. You can only step on it and kill the cockroach or
> see that it is crawling over your baby's body, and get it off gently
> rather than hurt your baby or the cockroach in the process. The
> question -- Do you step on that cockroach (and become a murderer
> according to you), or do you let that cockroach crawl on your baby
> while you run to get some kind of paper or something to remove that
> cockroach gently to avoid hurting your baby and that cockroach?
> After all... according to you your baby and that cockroach are the
> same... your baby is not superior in any way to that poor cockroach.
> In that consideration you might step on your baby if your baby
> appeared to be threatening the cockroach. Or maybe you would
> just "kick" your baby like a football to save that poor cockroach.
> After all, the baby is more likely to survive being kicked across the
> room than the cockroach if stepping on the cockroach.
" Let's try a little thought experiment."
You are going to try thinking? You should sir. You might like it.
"cockroaches are known to carry more than 50 disease causing organisms"
Have you ever looked up how many "disease causing organisms" people carry?
"Do you step on that cockroach or do you let that cockroach crawl on your
baby while you run to get some kind of paper or something to remove that
cockroach gently to avoid hurting your baby and that cockroach?"
No sir. I pick up the cochroach, I take it outside and let it go. I would
guess that you would stamp on it, splattering the poor little creature ans
spreading it's blood which contains "more than 50 disease causing
organisms" all over your baby. There is absolutely no reason to kill the
cockroach sir.
>
>>>>> You're not happy merely assassinating the English language, you
>>>>> want to crucify it before murdering it.
>>>>
>>>>Another one of your puerile response.
>>>
>>> Another one of your mindless drivel responses. Is "puerile" a
>>> new word you've discovered?
>>
>>Puerile.
>
> Thanks for answering the question with your agreement.
If you cannot win your arguments without lying then you should not be
allowed to take part.
Wiki is American, sir.
> quod erat demonstrandum: Death Disco is full of shit (or shite if you
> prefer)
You're guessing, sir.
>
>
>>> Obviously -- IF YOU ARE CONVICTED you have committed a
>>> crime. Thus that is not "homicide." Being convicted of a crime
>>> associated with homicide automatically makes it at least manslaughter.
>>> No indictment for a crime reads "homicide." It is a medical
>>> term, not a legal term referring to the way a person has died. He
>>> has been killed by another person, while whether it was legal or not,
>>> is an entirely different can of worms. See --
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide
>>> Quote -- "Homicide is not always an illegal act."
>>>
>>
>>In Britain, a person can go to prison for killing in self defense. They
>>generally do.
>
> Wrong -- See --
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-defence_in_English_law
Wiki is American, sir. You are American, sir. You do not know the law here..
Wiki does not live in Britain. Wiki does not know the law here. You do not
live in Britain. I do live in Britain. Killing in self defence is
manslaughter and it carries a custodial sentence, sir.
>
> Apparently you just use your imagination in your arguments, and
> don't even bother with the truth. To you... like to Hitler... the
> TRUTH is just an inconvenience if it conflicts with your agenda.
>
You have just describes your "Strategy" correctly sir. It's time you were
honest with yourself.
>>> Manslaughter, however, is a crime... Homicide is NOT a crime,
>>> unless it is determined that a crime was committed. Self-defense
>>> is not a crime, and no killing that is determined by the state
>>> prosecutor as self-defense is a crime.
>>
>>In Britain, killing a person in self defence is manslaughter and
>>manslaughter is a crime. Very few avoid a custodial sentence.
>>
> Wrong -- See
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-defence_in_English_law
Already argued, sir.
>
> Apparently you just use your imagination in your arguments, and
> don't even bother with the truth. To you... like to Hitler... the
> TRUTH is just an inconvenience if it conflicts with your agenda.
You have just describes your "Strategy" correctly sir. It's time you were
honest with yourself.
>
> Why don't you try something new... Like telling the truth?
Pot? Pot? this is kettle. Colour check please...
>
> <clip raving hysterical denial of the truth>
>
>>>>>"Homicide does not necessarily
>>>>> involve deliberation. But it can. Deliberation under the law
>>>>> is a very complex issue. There can be deliberation in homicide,
>>>>> and manslaughter, and murder. While there be a lack of
>>>>> deliberation in homicide and manslaughter. Murder must show
>>>>> deliberation. Why is this so hard for you to grasp??? Is the
>>>>> retention of facts really that difficult for you.
>>>>
>>>>You seem to spend a lot of time answering questions that nobody asked
>>>>them
>>>>reprimanding them for not knowing the answer and this is without the
>>>>courtesy of bothering to find out if they do know the answer. Puerile
>>>
>>> Heh... tough shit, kid. You're the ignoramus who insisted "If a
>>> person deliberatly (sic) kills another then it is murder."
>>
>>Only on you, dear fellow. Such exposes your stupidity.
>>
> I'm not the one having offered the incredibly ignorance comment that
> "If a person deliberatly (sic) kills another then it is murder." You
> offered that incredibly ignorant comment, and don't have a leg to
> stand on. I'll bet if YOU had to kill someone in self-defense that
> you'd be the first one screaming of innocence.
Nonsense, dear fellow.
"Already been there"
Then you know your definition was wrong, sir.
> <clip more hysterical raving from the Bubble-boy who has been deprived
> of any intellect whatsoever>
>
I have already accepted your surrender, sir.
I answered that above, sir. You should check that I haven't already answered
a question before you ask it again sir otherwise it makes you look stupid..
wel more so anyway.
>
> This is a simple problem in arithmetic if one understands the
> question. And you should be able to compute it in your head, and
> not need to even resort to paper and pen, or a computer. You
> shouldn't even need "the back of an envelope."
>
It was very simple, sir. They teach it to 13 year old physics students. Is
that where you learned it, sir?
>>> Nor do I have to consult wikipedia to know what mens rea and actus
>>> reus mean. But obviously you had to look it up.
>
> <clip vacuous repeating of my comment>
I've already accepted your surrender.
>
>>What you are saying to me is that you did not do any research. This
>>explains
>>why you get so many words wrong. I suggest you buy a dictionary, sir.
>>
> <clip vacuous repeating of my comment>
I've already accepted your surrender.
>>
>>At some point I did, yes. It's called research. It's how most people learn
>>words which is considerably more than your method of guessing them, dear
>>fellow.
>
> Then you should look up the word "prejudice" and see what a fool
> you are, and how it describes your anti-Semitism perfectly.
I did look it up sir. You claim that you do not need to. Curious
>
>>>>>>>>The age of the
>>>>>>>>criminal makes the crime any less real.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Errr... what are you trying to say??? The age of the criminal DOES
>>>>>>> NOT make the crime any less real.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>> That isn't what you wrote, stupid. I was correcting your comment.
>>>>
>>>>I know, stupid. You did not correct the comment, you copied it and
>>>>corrected the copy.
>>>
>>> Right... thanks for agreeing with me. I was correcting your comment.
>>
>>You are so in need of attention that you beg just once for someone to
>>agree
>>with you. How lonely you must be. Regretably you were not correcting my
>>comment, you were correcting your copy of my comment. without a proper
>>cite.
>
> So you stand by your original comment of -- "The age of the criminal
> makes the crime any less real." Now could you tell me what the fuck
> that is saying???
>
If you cannot win your arguments without lying or name calling then you
should not be allowed to take part.
How can one who can claim that have learned so little?
>
> In addition my home library is quite extensive -- See-
> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/library.mov
> And I am a voracious reader.
>
> That however, is only a small part of my total library, since it does
> not include technical works which I maintain in my computer room.
> Which can be seen here --
> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Library.JPG
It is not wise to post personal information on a public forum to someone
your are having an aggressive debate with, sir.
However, you are proof that reading does not make a person "smart"
You failed to post the correct cite, sir.
>>>>" If we had a perfect justice
>>>>> system we would not convict the innocent, and we would never
>>>>> permit an innocent to die in prison.
>>>>
>>>>You do not have a perfect justice system.
>>>
>>> That's because there is no such thing as "a perfect justice system."
>>
>>This is an strong argument fo the abolishment of the death penalty.
>
> Total mindless drivel. If you're looking for a "perfect criminal
> justice system," and there is no such thing, then YOU are arguing for
> the abolition of the "criminal justice system." And only a fool would
> argue that.
>
No, sir. I am arguing the abolition of the death penalty.
No, sir. Just the death penalty will do.
If you cannot win your arguments without lying then you should not be
allowed to take part.
>>>> and a perfect justice system would not include the death
>>>>penalty.
>>>
>>> Once again arguing from a false premise... there is no such thing
>>> as "a perfect justice system." Innocents are convicted probably
>>> every day in some court somewhere in the U.S. Shall we let
>>> all the criminals remain free because of the chance of an innocent
>>> dying in prison? Or do you argue abolish the U.S. criminal
>>> justice system and let the criminals continue on their way.
>>
>>My premise is quite correct. If there were a perfect justice system it
>>would
>>not have a death penalty.
>
> Proven to be a lie. A TOTAL LIE. I've already showed you an
> example of an imperfect justice system even if there were no death
> penalty. Innocents, NOT sentenced to the death penalty, die in prison
> every day. Apparently you are willing to let them die, and call it
> "perfect."
>
" Proven to be a lie. A TOTAL LIE"
Becoming angry will not aid your argument, sir.
>> Any imperfect justice system which includes all off
>>them should not inclde a death penalty.
>
> What the fuck are you raving about? Exactly what language are you
> trying to communicate in, sport?
English, sir.
What was the expression you used earlier? "Tough shit."
If you cannot win your arguments without lying then you should not be
allowed to take part.
J
>
>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:6lu006db3d7mcu76l...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 27 May 2010 18:30:15 +0100, "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
>> wrote:
>>
>
>"> But you're no longer worth my time"
>
>Curios. You announce that we are done but you reply to one of my posts
>afterwards. This is strange.
That was in respect to that particular post, and that particular
evening, shit-for-brains.
Bet you're disappointed to see me wipe out every one of your
irrational arguments again. But let me be absolutely clear...
if I do stop replying to your comments that are obviously
a product of a disturbed and degenerate mind, it will only be
because I've grown tired of pounding each and every one of your
shriveled-up arguments into dust.
It will only mean I've grown tired of dealing with your manifest lies,
your Machiavellian deceit, the hebephrenic cacophony of your hatreds,
your shameful fraud and smear tactics, your nefarious racism, your
insipid hyperbole, your defamatory slanders, your blighted fears, your
fulsome hubris and amour propre belief that you the alpha and omega,
your craven scheming, your degenerate character, your frenzied
harangues in denial of the Holocaust, your painfully obvious
immorality, your sociopathic sickness, your disgraceful hedonism, your
oily hypocrisy, your smarmy use of tautology,your feckless ignorance,
your emetic demagoguery, your contemptuous sophistry, your wanton
destruction of ethics, your abstruse and picayune arguments, your
scornful xenophobia, your bilious denial of logic and the abstract,
your scatophagous affection for cockroaches, your morbid and baneful
belief that killing in self-defense is murder, your tendentious
defense of U.S. murderers who should be no concern of yours as they
represent no danger to you but do to others, your vacuous use of tu
quoque, your "puerile" harangues, your acute catachresis showing your
inability to deal with the English language and its definitions, your
mentally unbalanced belief in your "Aryan superiority," and those
Bible-thumping psychotic demonstrations of your belief that you are
either God, himself, or personally talk to your private God all the
time.
It will not be because you've won anything. But that I've grown
tired of listening to your bullshit, over and over.... repeating the
very same bullshit, over and over. Of course, given your
belief in your "Aryan superiority," you will undoubtedly claim
it as "a white flag of surrender" on my part. But nothing would
be further from the truth. I do have better things to do than
show you for the shit-for-brains poster that you are, in your
Holocaust denial, and your racism. I've been putting them off
because you are so obnoxious, so paedomorphic, so lacking of
any empathy, or sympathy for other humans, and so pathetically
ignorant of life in general, that every moral fiber in my being
feels it necessary to expose your hate for humanity and your
abject ignorance. So when I do grow tired of pounding your
arguments into dust you will know what it means to be exposed
for what you are.. an ignorant, willful twerp.
>> <clip neurotic raving from Death Disco>
>
>I have already accepted your flag of surrender, sir.
It's that psychotic God-complex of yours talking to you rather than my
"surrender," my young ignorant child. Saying things that make it
appear you believe you are God, that what you say must be taken as
fact rather than your silly opinion... comments of yours such as --
"I don't need to prove it, dear fellow."
"I am not obliged to prove it to you."
"I am not obliged to prove anything to you, sir."
"I do not need to offer scientific proof"
"I am the exclusive author of my issue and only I have
the authority to make and declerations(sic) base (sic) upon it."
"I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything."
etc... etc... etc...
And finally -- Your claim that "It's the unknown, sir."
Which you argue is _an unknown but known to you_.
>>>>>Puerile. With all sincerity I am convinced that you are not 78 years
>>>>>old. Your mind is dull, unfocused and your arguments are childish.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect in real life you are a rather lonely 17-year-old Dutch boy,
>>>> who is a virgin, afraid of the opposite sex, pimply and overweight,
>>>> has no friends, lacks even moderate athletic abilities, is considered
>>>> weird by his schoolmates, lives on junk food, spends an
>>>> excessive amount of time surfing porn and White Power sites,
>>>> and is so overly-mothered it's creepy.
>>>
>>>You already said that.
>>
>> It needs repeating.... Over and over... since it appears to be quite
>> accurate, having brought you bellowing out of the belly of the beast.
>
>Nothing needs repeating over and over, my friend.
No proof offered. Your claim fails. Consider how often you have
repeated your mindless drivel in respect to using the word "puerile"
(as if it's the only insult you know), and your equally mindless
drivel that you talk to "something higher than ourselves." Plus
your silly God-like pronunciations that you "are not obligated to
prove anything" you claim as fact. Good grief... do you also picture
yourself as sitting on a cloud with a shiny and tiny hula hoop over
your head, changing your opinion into fact, just because you say so?
>Repetition has no relation to accuracy.
How very "puerile" that claim is. Keep in mind that you repeating
your lies has no relation to the truth.
>Saying that, however;
>Curios. You announce that we are done but you reply to one of my posts
>afterwards. This is strange.
What's really strange is your psychotic belief that you hear voices
_from on high_ that have told you that "all biological life has a
right to life." Hallelujah, brother.
While insisting you don't need to prove it because you've heard
those voices. Arguing it is "the unknown," but known to you as
"something higher than ourselves." And then you try to deny you're
a Bible-thumper. Get outta here.
>>>> I suspect you do average in school since you don't appear to be
>>>> retarded to me, but you certainly have deep psychological issues, and
>>>> an inability to relate to others when speaking in your mother-tongue,
>>>> thus you struggle along making mistake after mistake in the English
>>>> language, boring us in AADP, showing a political philosophy based upon
>>>> a belief in your "Aryan superiority," that you've never "seen a Black
>>>> person," and a refusal to accept that the extermination of six million
>>>> Jews in the 20th Century actually happened. In addition to arguing
>>>> that you do remember "the Crusades," "WW II," and "the Greeks." Just
>>>> what do you remember about the Greeks? Try to impress me with your
>>>> knowledge of Aeschylus. Do you remember even one of his plays?
>>>> Can you name even one of his plays? Do you remember what Crusade
>>>> was led by Richard the Lionheart? No fair using Google now!!
>>>
>>>You already said that.
>>>
>>>"Do you remember what Crusade
>>>> was led by Richard the Lionheart?"
>>>
>>>No sir. I wan't there.
>>
>> Yet you stated you remember the Crusades... In fact you asked me
>> if I remembered the Crusades. You couldn't ask that if you didn't
>> remember the Crusades.
>
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>No I didn't, sir. However.
I have the proof, sport. Your words that "You do not remember what is
not in your memory and it is not in your memory if you did not
experience or witness it first hand." Which means the same as saying
"you do remember what is in your memory OR what you witness first
hand." And by relating the Crusades in mentioning them they must be
in your memory. Otherwise you've had a full frontal lobotomy and
haven't revealed that fact here. See -
http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/american/memory
MEMORY -"The ability to remember things" You do remember
how to mathematically divide a numerator by a denominator, because
it was taught to you, and not that you have a natural instinct without
having been taught. So why can't you remember the Holocaust? Did
you attend a school in which WW II was not taught, but the Crusades
were?
So if you can't remember a THING we call the Holocaust you are
certainly denying that there was a Holocaust. Yet you do "remember"
a thing called the Crusades. Since you continue to have the
information that there were Crusades in your mind. How else
could you know of it, if it was not present in your memory?
and --
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/memory
MEMORY -- "1 a : the power or process of reproducing or recalling
what has been learned and retained especially through associative
mechanisms b : the store of things learned and retained from an
organism's activity or experience as evidenced by modification of
structure or behavior or by recall and recognition."
You thus admit you have never learned or retained any information
regarding the Holocaust, which is a terrible condemnation of your
nurturing process, and that you can neither recall nor recognize the
extermination of six million Jews in WW II.
and, of course --
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/memory
MEMORY -- "The period of time covered by the remembrance or
recollection of a person or group of persons: within the memory of
humankind."
"Within the memory of humankind." But of course as you once
said, you reject definitions that don't meet your argument.
Fortunately... those definitions have a real meaning.
But let's look at another one of your comments which stated -- "You
cannot forget or remember the extermination of 6 million jews (sic)
unless you remember them and to remember them you must have
experienced them first hand."
Now match that to another one of your comments -- "as I remember it,
there were many calling for the blood of said 10 year old killers."
Now did you experience first hand calling for the blood of said
10-year-old killers? According to you, you must have! Because you
note that you "remember it." I thought you were an abolitionist and
now I find that you've been calling for the execution of 10-year-old
killers. No wonder you don't care about the extermination of
six-million Jews! But you do care about the life of a cockroach...
which you called "a poor little creature." Never seen you call a
human such an affectionate term. Too bad you don't show
as much empathy toward six million innocents Jews... But that
wouldn't suit your attempt at Holocaust denial... would it?
>Curios. You announce that we are done but you reply to one of my posts
>afterwards. This is strange.
You sound very afraid, my boy. Don't worry, I'll take it easy on you
when I rip you a new one.
>>>> However, I can prove my creds. As I've had to do more than once
>>>> when confronted with an immature uneducated youth. See -
>>>>
>>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/birth_certificate.jpg
>>>> Born Feb 1, 1932.
>>>>
>>>> My University of Maryland Bachelor's degree. Magna Cum Laude --
>>>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Maryland.jpg
>>>>
>>>> My Boston University Master's degree
>>>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Boston.jpg
>>>>
>>>> My Boston University Master's degree transcript. All A's, 1 B.
>>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/Transcript.jpg
>>>>
>>>> My Military Retirement Certificate after 20 years in the U.S. Military
>>>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Retirement.jpg
>>>>
>>>> I have blocked out various personal information such as
>>>> my Social Security Number.
>>>>
>>>> Now let's see YOUR proof, if you're not afraid.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *deathly silence*
>>>
>>>You said all that alread, sir. What a poor memory you must have.
>>
>> And yet... there is still that "deathly silence" from you... except
>> for your sobbing while curled up in the fetal position in the corner
>> of your small room.
>
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>The deathly silence was from you, sir. It did not come from me.
Wrong again. I said "let's see YOUR proof." And I have yet to see
it... thus there has only been that *deathly silence* from you, except
for the sound of you sobbing while curled up in the fetal position in
a corner, because you thought I was done destroying your entire
edifice of lies and deceit and Holocaust denial (you can't remember
the Holocaust) and racism (you don't know what a "Black person" is
-thus it is impossible to show racism toward any Black person - One of
the moral novel excuses for racism to thrive).
> If you
>cannot win your arguments without lying or name calling then you should not
>be allowed to take part.
I never, ever lie. Claiming I do is simply your own smear tactics to
discredit my exposing your own lies and deceit. It's a popular
tactic used by those who are either exposed for being a liar or want
to shift the argument (which is recognized as lost) to one of ad
hominem, about presumed, but unexplained or lacking a cite to past
comments. Simply call the person who exposes you -- a liar. And
then *plonk* him as if that proves he is a liar. As to name
calling... I have seldom found a more "name-calling-worthy" poster
than you, sport.
But you have no cite of any lie from me, while I have the evidence of
your claims that you _talk to_ "something higher than ourselves," and
"it" talks back to you. Plus all the times I have caught you in a lie
and your answer was --
"I don't need to prove it, dear fellow."
"I am not obliged to prove it to you."
"I am not obliged to prove anything to you, sir."
"I do not need to offer scientific proof"
"I am the exclusive author of my issue and only I have
the authority to make and declerations(sic) base (sic) upon it."
"I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything."
etc... etc... etc...
And finally -- Your claim that "It's the unknown, sir."
Which you argue is _an unknown but known to you_.
All above are obvious attempts to cover you your lies.
>Did I mention, "Curios. You announce that we are done but you reply to one
>of my posts afterwards. This is strange."?
The poor young blockhead keeps repeating himself in mindless drivel,
while complaining when I repeat my comments. He can't even remember
what he wrote just a few moments ago... in his words -- "Nothing needs
repeating over and over, my friend." But then, he's always had a
problem with his memory... it fades in and out... fades in when he
remembers the crusades... fades out when he wants others to forget
the extermination of six million European Jews... fades back in when
he wants to worship the cockroach.... fades back out when the words
"Black person" are used... fades in when he wants to remember
arithmetic (funny how he can "remember" arithmetic, when it was
used long before he was born, but he can't "remember" the Holocaust,
because he argues it happened before he was born).
>> <clipped some more sobbing>
>>
>>>>>>>As I said, "Maturity is a subjective term;"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stating the obvious isn't necessary. I'm well aware of the difference
>>>>>> between objective and subjective. In fact, I've been trying to teach
>>>>>> your hard head the difference for about a week now. "Prejudice"
>>>>>> is also a subjective term. Yet you seem terribly confused about it...
>>>>>> using your buzzword "static," which you apparently think is
>>>>>> some sort of aphorism, rather than vacuous nonsense.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Prejudice" is a static "WORD".
>>>>
>>>> There is no such thing. The only "static" that can exist in a word
>>>> is the static of random and garbed meaningless noise. All your
>>>> comments contain a great number of _static words_.
>>>
>>>It is therefor obvious that your career plans no more involve electrical
>>>engineering than they do law or anything to do with the English language.
>>
>> ROTFLMAO. Tell me, sport. Since you claim to be so fucking smart.
>> What is the theoretical electromagnetic resonant frequency in Hz of a
>> 20 cm quarter-wave-length transmission line, presuming the velocity of
>> light is exactly 300,000,000 meters/per second, and no other factors
>> affect this resonant frequency? In practical application this would
>> be the initial frequency applied and then balanced slightly to account
>> for other parameters such as light not being exactly 300,000,000
>> meters/per second, using inductive and capacitive reactance much too
>> complicated for you to understand. Thus there is no need to consider
>> such slight differences.
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>I make no such claim, sir. I might also claim that one does not have to be
>particularlly smart to beat you in debate, dear fellow but that would be a
>puerile comment, so I won't.
You're repeating yourself, shit-for-brains.
>"What is the theoretical electromagnetic resonant frequency in Hz of a 20
>cm quarter-wave-length transmission line"
That's what I said. However that is not the full problem as I
presented it. Try to be precise and read my words, you moron.
Repeating --
" What is the theoretical electromagnetic resonant frequency in Hz of
a 20 cm quarter-wave-length transmission line, presuming the velocity
of light is exactly 300,000,000 meters/per second, and no other
factors affect this resonant frequency?"
Do you see the word "exactly"? You moron. Do you see the word
"presuming"? You idiot. If I had stated "presuming the velocity of
light is exactly 200,000,000 meters/per second, would you still ignore
the parameter as it is set in the question? The question does not ask
you to provide "the exact velocity of light in a vacuum."
Let me give you a little advice on how to take a written, timed test:
Before you open the examination do not bother to think about all
the things you've learned that are relevant to the test material,
you will either know it or not know it when you read the question.
Simply remember to RTFQ... READ THE FUCKING QUESTION!! Keep
repeating that to yourself before you even open the examination...
repeat it OVER AND OVER in your mind.
After opening the examination, if you then grasp the QUESTION
FULLY, and only then, proceed with an answer. Finally, NEVER turn in
your answers before the final time limit has expired. You get no
extra credit for being the first smart-ass to run up to the teacher
with your answers, and look smugly and superior at the others taking
the examination. So time granted, look again and RTFQ... to see if
you ignored any of the parameters given in any of the questions, and
instead substituted your own.
Valuable information from someone who has taken more examinations
than you will ever take if you live to be 100.
>Interesting question, dear sir, but an easy one.
>Lets see. c=speed of light or 299792458 meters per second, lamda you
>requested is 20cm or 0.2 meters and you wanted quarter wave so I am assuming
>you a constructing a vertical antenna; so the forumula we need is here
>((c/Lamda)/4) which is ((299792458/0.2)/4) the answer you are looking for is
>374740572.5 Cs approximately or 374.7405725 MCs. And don't even think of
>trying to pretend it's wrong. Sir.
Not bad for gobbledygook, except for the fact that your answer is
wrong, overly complicated and showed the use of a calculator and
reference material. You need to examine the parameters of a problem,
and not presume you need to resort to any reference, since the speed
of light is a "given" in the problem (the words -- "presuming the
velocity of light is exactly 300,000,000 meters/per second." - Not
299792458 meters/per second, which you obviously had to research
taking time not needed for the answer, plus complicating the
mathematics requiring the use of a calculator). Thus, your answer,
while it might be just as correct as the easier answer using the
parameters as stated, is incorrect in respect to the problem itself.
Check the problem again.
Further, you felt the need of a calculator (thinking you could impress
me), while it only further complicated arriving at your incorrect
answer (in respect to the conditions established in the problem).
Since the answer you gave is also an "approximation," you did no
better than arrive at a false conclusion. It would take me no
longer than 30 seconds to have mentally solved this problem in my
head. I purposely made it very easy to obtain a bedrock of
your education. Others, such as exador, cerberus and some others,
easily solved this problem, so don't consider yourself special.
And they came up with the RIGHT answer... because they RTFQ.
In addition, you would have taken a great deal of time computing that
answer, while in the "real world" such answers are at the fingertips
of technicians. Thus, in a timed examination, or in the real world
you would have wasted valuable time.... as a nerd... rather than
a real-world solution solver.
I told you that you could work this out WITHOUT the need of paper and
pen, yet you went about it with paper and pen and calculator and
references. Simply put -- since 20 cm is a quarter-wave-length, a
full wave length would simply be 80 cm if it was to be brought into
electromagnetic resonance. Thus one needs to only compute in his head
the speed of light in meters (already given) divided by 0.80 meters...
and mentally moving the decimal one place to the right in both the
numerator and denominator we need only to mentally compute (3000 x
10^6)/8 and the answer is 375 MHz. I needed no calculator, and no
references other than what was GIVEN to be presumed, and no paper or
pen or the back of an envelope to arrive at that answer. Dividing
3000 by 8 is something a fifth-grader can do in his head. While the
exponential part would be a bit more complicated for that
fifth-grader, but effortless for a trained technician, who would
immediately recognize that moving 300 x 10^6 one decimal place to the
right would give 3,000 x 10^6, which contains a factor immediately
recognized as MHz.
In practical terms one does not need to be more precise than that,
because one will necessarily have to use various reactance to bring
the transmission line into full resonance by observing the output with
an oscilloscope, looking for an abrupt peak. Neither technicians
nor engineers laboriously work out these problems to an exact
figure, because of the minutely different physical parameters they are
sure to encounter. While if they do need to use a calculator they
would have simply stored therecise speed of light as a constant
in computing. But I noted that no calculator was necessary to
solve the problem. You've just overly complicated a very easy
problem. In practical terms your answer would be no better than mine,
since various physical differences would have to be adjusted for in
either case. While in terms of a written answer to the problem as
stated, your school teacher would remark -- "answer stinks - overly
complicated - presumes parameters different than as stated in problem
- incorrect answer."
BTW -- Cs is not the correct use to reference "cycles per second." See
-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertz
The term "Hz," named after Heinrich Hertz, and has been recognized
as the unit of measure for "cycles per second" by the General
Conference on Weights and Measures.
However, this entire exercise demonstrates you possess a modicum of
knowledge regarding electronics, which is probably where you have
focused all of your limited intelligence. It says nothing about
things that are certainly more important if we are to act as
responsible, empathetic, concerned, compassionate, responsible,
civilized, reasonable, sentient members of mankind. All of which are
alien to the cockroach. It is obvious that you lack the slightest
nurturing in either your education or from your family regarding
important human disciplines such as the arts, history, morality,
ethics, philosophy and every aspect of the humanities.
I doubt you have read any of the classics. I doubt whether you
even know of Plato, the Greek play writers, Marcus Aurelius, Cicero,
any of the numerous Great English writers, any of the great French
writers, any of the great German writers, or any works by Americans,
such as the seminal works of the atheist Thomas Paine, and others such
as Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, Hemingway... etc.. I doubt
whether music means anything to your rotten soul. I doubt whether
any art moves your cold-heart. I doubt whether anything related
to the HUMAN condition troubles you... since your concern is
_save the cockroach_.
Good for you if you can assemble an electronic circuitry that does
some work, but I have to speak honestly and frankly and address what I
see as the great injustice you do to the Jews and Blacks to treat them
so shabbily in your arguments. I have to speak honestly and frankly
and address what I see as the great injustice you do to all mankind,
when you treat mankind in general so shabbily that you compare a
human to a cockroach, and argue the life of a cockroach is as valuable
as the life of a human being. I have to speak honestly and frankly
and address your pathological God-complex, in which you contend
you hear voices from "something higher than ourselves," who has told
you there is a "right to life for all biological life." All of these
destructive emotions and moral and ethnical shortcomings you possess
should weigh heavily upon the vital forces of your inner being. But
sadly, they do not seem to do so.
>Now it's my turn
>
>Given you have a low pass filter with a resistor of 31830 ohms, and a
>capacitor of 1 Nano Farad. at frequency of 500 Cs what is the DB loss and
>the phase angle? You will have to work out the reactance first, sir.
Repeating your favorite line. "I don't need to prove it, dear
fellow." Or the one you use, shown just below -- "I have no
obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything."
It's quite easy to pick a problem out of a textbook where you already
have the answer explained to you. So now, since you arrived
at an incorrect answer it's still my turn --
Find the steady-state temperature distribution in the half-space z > 0
if the temperature distribution u(r,0) = F(r) is maintained on the
bounding plane face z = 0. Assume that F(r) satisfies the conditions
for the existence of its Hankel transform [1]. Show your work.
Your answer should be in the form of u(r,z) = ????
Hint -- [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hankel_transform
While even if you amaze me and somehow find the answer on the
Internet or have your teacher explain the answer to you, it would not
solve the basic problem you have with those destructive emotions and
moral and ethnical shortcomings you possess which should weigh heavily
upon the vital forces of your inner being... but apparently do not.
>> Now this theoretical frequency is a simple problem in arithmetic if
>> one understands the question. And you should be able to compute it in
>> your head, and not need to even resort to paper and pen, or a
>> computer.
>>
>"Now this theoretical frequency is a simple problem in arithmetic "
>
>Very simple, sir. I'm amazed you chose not to gave me one on Ohm's law.
Ohm's law does not deal with AC. When reactive elements such as
capacitors, inductors, or transmission lines are involved in a circuit
to which AC or time-varying voltage or current is applied, the
relationship between voltage and current becomes the solution to a
differential equation, so Ohm's law does not directly apply since that
form contains only resistances having value R, not complex impedances
which may contain capacitance ("C") or inductance ("L").
Kirchoff's law is applicable with AC circuits.
>My question to you is slightly more complicated but I'm sure you can crack it.
And yet you chose to overly complicate it. Why can't you be just as
precise when you refer to "something higher than ourselves," given you
insist that this "something" has told you personally about having
given a "right to life to all biological life"?
Your trouble is that you confuse your subjective views with objective
facts. No matter how hard you try... they are not the same. There
is no possibility whatsoever of "something higher than ourselves,"
actually being an "object" that we can examine and agree upon what
that object is. Just as there is no possibility whatsoever of
"prejudice" actually being an "object" that we can examine and agree
upon what that object is.
>>>>>Perhaps the use of caps will help you around your obvious learning
>>>>>difficulty.
>>>>
>>>> You can't prove your silly argument. How long has it been since
>>>> you were weaned? Answer the question, without using a question.
>>>> Bet you can't do it.
>>>
>>>I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything.
>>
>> So you can't answer the question. Why did I already know that if
>> I'm not smart?
>>
>
>You're guessing again, sir.
>Curios. You announce that we are done but you reply to one of my posts
>afterwards. This is strange.
You're repeating yourself, shit-for-brains. Yet you're still avoiding
the question.
You're repeating yourself, shit-for-brains.
>>>>>It's your
>>>>>arrogance that pushes to to actually rewrite the word.
>>>>
>>>> You're the one having rewritten the word to suit your own childish
>>>> ego, while having absolutely no proof of your argument. The
>>>> only use of "static" in describing any word is "electrical or acoustic
>>>> activity that can disturb communication." And you try that
>>>> with just about every word you offer. Words either convey the
>>>> meaning of an "object," thus "objective,' or they convey the
>>>> meaning of a "mental abstraction," thus "subjective."
>>>>
>>>
>>>Nonsense. I use "Static" in a correct context.
>>
>> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>
>An unreferenced cite is inadmissible.
Quite true... your lack of a referenced cite showing "static" to refer
to "prejudice" makes your argument inadmissible.
>> Saying it, is not proving it. Unless you abide by the diktat of
>> Hitler, who insisted that "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep
>> saying it, and eventually they will believe it"
>
>I have no obligation to prove my arguments.
Using that psychotic God-complex of yours does not mean you have no
obligation to prove your arguments, shit-for-brains. Only "something
higher than ourselves" does not have to prove "its" arguments. But
I guess I should pity you because you have that psychotic
Bible-thumper belief that "something higher than ourselves" talks to
you directly.... Hallelujah, brother.
>>>>>> In fact, I do not redefine definitions. I use them as weapons to
>>>>>> crush idiots like you, who have little knowledge of the English
>>>>>> language, and thus distort words in a biased effort to twist to your
>>>>>> own sick agenda.
>>>>>
>>>>>You repeatidly and deliberately misuse dictionary definition regardless
>>>>>of
>>>>>that you have cobnsulted a dictionary but you change them anyway.
>>>>
>>>> I put the definitions up... and you simply ignore them as if they do
>>>> not exist. How can I possibly deal with someone who speaks gibberish,
>>>> and insists the English language is made as he desires to make it, not
>>>> as it actually exists?
>>>>
>>>
>>>You change them, sir.
>>
>> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>
>An unreferenced cite is inadmissible.
Quite right... so why do you keep claiming cites without references,
shit-for-brains?
>> Saying it, is not proving it. Unless you abide by the diktat of
>> Hitler, who insisted that "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep
>> saying it, and eventually they will believe it"
>>
>> Oh, wait... you do abide by that diktat.
>>
>
>You're guessing again, sir.
Wrong, shit-for-brains. I have the evidence. Of course if you
actually BELIEVE you talk to "something higher than ourselves,"
then you are not held responsible for your lies, since you are
simply mentally unbalanced and do not know the difference
between truth and fiction, and believe you hear voices.
>>>>>Then you hold the sword by the blade sir and cut of your own fingers in
>>>>>the attempt. Your practice is done because you cannot win your argument
>>>>>and
>>>>>thus your resort to xenophobia but it backfired on you where I am
>>>>>concerned as
>>>>>I suspect it has with many before me.
>>>>>
>>>> ROTFLMAO. You're sick, son. Ask your mommy to make an appointment
>>>> with the nearest psychiatrist. Plus look up the definition of
>>>> "xenophobia," since it has nothing to do with this argument. In point
>>>> of fact you suffer from eisoptrophobia.... A fear of examining your
>>>> own inner hate and rage for one so young, in fearing to look into
>>>> mirrors, and see yourself as others see you.
>>>
>>>"mommy" is that an American word?
>>
>> It is a word in the Oxford English Dictionary... the "supreme Arbiter"
>> of the English language. It means "mom, momma." While it is noted
>> as a "Chiefly U.S." word. Yet it is recognized in that master work of
>> the English language.
>
>". noun (pl. mommies) North American term for MUMMY"
>Cite: http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/mommy?view=uk
>author: www.askoxford.com"
>Date of access: 29th may 2010.
>I was correct, sir. It is American for "Mummy"
It is in the Oxford English Dictionary... which makes it an ENGLISH
word, shit-for-brains. See --
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/mommy.jpg
>>>"Xenophobia is the uncontrollable fear of foreigners.[1] It comes from the
>>>Greek words ????? (xenos), meaning "stranger," "foreigner" and ?????
>>>(phobos), meaning "fear." Xenophobia can manifest itself in many ways
>>>involving the relations and perceptions of an ingroup towards an outgroup,
>>>including a fear of losing identity, suspicion of its activities,
>>>aggression, and desire to eliminate its presence to secure a presumed
>>>purity.[2] Xenophobia can also be exhibited in the form of an "uncritical
>>>exaltation of another culture" in which a culture is ascribed "an unreal,
>>>stereotyped and exotic quality".["
>>>
>>>Cite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia
>>>Wikpedia.
>>>accessed: 27/05/10.
>>>
>>>I was correct as always, dear sir. the word "Xenophobia" was perfectly
>>>germane to my argument.
>>
>> If you mean does it describe YOUR methods, then there is no question
>> that it applies to YOU. For example, just now you questioned the
>> source of the word "mommy." That's definitely an example of your
>> xenophobia -- "fear of foreigners." While your Bible-thumping raving
>> about a death penalty for murderers in a land foreign to you,
>> certainly expresses a "relations and perceptions of an ingroup"
>> toward those you consider an outgroup (the U.S.).
>
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>No, sir.I mean it describe your methods.
No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>If you cannot argue without lying then you should not be allowed to play at
>all.
Why do you keep offering cites without references, shit-for-brains?
>> As I've continued to point out... I don't give a fuck if every nation
>> in the EU holds a parade for each and every one of their murderers. So
>> that is hardly xenophobic. Why are you suspicious of what the U.S.
>> does with her murderers? Why do you offer an "uncritical exaltation"
>> of your society, and presume there is some "purity" in saving the
>> lives of every murderer? Why do you fear the fact that the U.S.
>> executed about 1,100 murderers in more than 30 years, while
>> a nation in the EU was responsible for the genocide of six million
>> Jews in WW II, and the more recent genocides in the former
>> Yugoslavia, and the genocide of the Tutsis by the Hutus?
>> Can't you people get along??
>
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>By your own logic, it is, sir.
ROTFLMAO. If there were a "God" he would strike you down for even
using the word "logic" considering you abuse that concept
continuously. Not once... not one fucking time... have you offered
an argument based upon "logic." It is an unknown concept to you.
You're a book-burner when you don't want to understand... you're a
liar when it suits your argument.... you're a denier when it comes to
the extermination of six million Jews... you're sick as you try to
tell the Jews that "it's been 60 years so they should get over it"...
you're a Bible-thumper and a xenophobe when it comes to the U.S. death
penalty, and you're a character from "Alice in Wonderland" when you
insist that "something higher than ourselves" has whispered in your
ear that "it" has given an Easter Bunny "right to life to all
biological life."
>> It's been 120 years since we had a massacre in the U.S. (wounded
>> knee. which ended up with 146 men, women and children killed).
>> Sad to say that I cannot say the same about Europe (6 million
>> Jews exterminated, with an equal number of others exterminated
>> in the Nazi killing machine) and your country (107,000 Dutch Jews sent
>> to Auschwitz... only 5,200 survived). You should be ashamed of
>> your history. Claiming you can't "remember it," is no excuse for
>> forgetting it.
>>
>
>The USA is about 300 years old, give or take. Europe spreads over many
>millennia, dear sir.
You would think Europeans would have learned in those many
millennia... Yet there is no evidence of that having happened.
> In perspective, your people have had thier fair share
>of bloodshed, sir.
How do you remember that? Did you experience the U.S 300 years ago?
Were you there at Wounded Knee?? Europe, in the last 100 years,
murdered in various genocides at least 100 times the total number of
murders in genocides in the U.S. in that full 300 years. Shit...
Europe managed to do it five times at much in only FIVE years In the
20th Century!!! And more than once in that 20th Century. While the
bloody history of Europe's past should cause you to weep... but you
can't REMEMBER it. How very convenient for you.
The 20th Century was the bloodiest century in human history. And
that bloodshed was 99.99% the result of Europe's citizens inability
to get along with each other.
However, you've certainly left me ROTFLMAO.
Let's look at only a few wars in Europe, from the 13th Century on.
Before 19th Century --
* 1208-1227 Conquest of Estonia
* 1209-1229 Albigensian Crusade
* 1282-1302 War of the Sicilian Vespers
* 1296-1357 Wars of Scottish Independence
* 1337-1453 Hundred Years' War
* 1419-1434 Hussite Wars
* 1455-1487 Wars of the Roses
* 1522�1559 Habsburg-Valois Wars
* 1558-1583 Livonian War
* 1562-1598 French Wars of Religion
* 1568�1648 Eighty Years' War
* 1580-1583 War of the Portuguese Succession
* 1585-1604 Anglo-Spanish War (1585)
* 1594-1603 Nine Years War (Ireland)
* 1618�1648 Thirty Years' War
* 1640-1688 Portuguese Restoration War
* 1642�1651 English Civil War
* 1652-1674 Anglo-Dutch Wars
* 1667�1668 War of Devolution
* 1667�1683 Great Turkish War
* 1688-1697 War of the League of Augsburg
* 1700�1721 Great Northern War
* 1701�1713 War of the Spanish Succession
* 1718-1720 War of the Quadruple Alliance
* 1740�1748 War of the Austrian Succession
* 1756�1763 Seven Years' War
* 1789�1799 French Revolution
19th century
* 1792�1815 Napoleonic Wars
* 1830 Ten Days Campaign (following the Belgian Revolt)
* 1830-1831 Polish-Russian war
* 1848-1851 First Schleswig War
* 1848�1866 Italian Independence wars
* 1848�1849 First Italian Independence War
* 1859 Second Italian Independence War
* 1866 Third Italian Independence War
* 1854�1856 Crimean War
* 1864 Second Schleswig War
* 1864 January Uprising
* 1866 Austro-Prussian War
* 1870�1871 Franco-Prussian War
* 1877�1878 Russo�Turkish War
* 1885 Serbo-Bulgarian War
* 1893�1896 Cod War of 1893
* 1897 First Greco�Turkish War
20th century
(In general all wars are listed)
* 1911-1912 Italo-Turkish War
* 1912�1913 Balkan Wars
o 1912-1913 First Balkan War
o 1913 Second Balkan War
* 1914�1918 World War I
* 1916 Easter Rising
* 1917�1921 Russian Civil War
* 1918 Finnish Civil War
* 1918 Polish-Czech war for Teschen Silesia
* 1918�1919 Polish-Ukrainian War
* 1918�1919 Greater Poland Uprising
* 1918�1920 Estonian Liberation War
* 1918-1920 Latvian War of Independence
* 1919�1920 Czechoslovakia-Hungary War
* 1919�1921 Silesian Uprisings
* 1919�1921 Polish-Soviet War
* 1919�1921 Anglo-Irish War
* 1920 Polish-Lithuanian War
* 1922�1923 Irish Civil War
* 1936�1939 Spanish Civil War
* 1939�1945 World War II
o 1939-1940 Winter War
o 1941-1944 Continuation War
o 1944 Slovak National Uprising
* 1946-1949 Greek Civil War
* 1956 Uprising in Poznan
* 1956 Soviet invasion of Hungary
* 1959-Ongoing ETA's campaign
* 1968 Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia
* 1969-1998 The Troubles of Northern Ireland
* 1970-1984 Red Brigades campaign of terror
* 1974 Turkish invasion of Cyprus
* 1988-1994 Nagorno-Karabakh War
* 1989 Romanian Revolution
* 1991 Ten-Day War in Slovenia
* 1991-1992 War in South Ossetia
* 1991-1993 Georgian civil war
* 1991-1995 Croatian War of Independence
* 1992 War of Transnistria
* 1992-1998 First War in Abkhazia
* 1992-1995 Bosnian War
* 1994�1996 First Chechen War
* 1996-1999 First and Second Kosovo Wars
* 1997-Ongoing Northern Irish Republican Dissidents conflict
* 1998 Second War of Abkhazia
* 1999 Dagestan War
* 1999-Ongoing Second Chechen War
* 1999-2001 Insurgency in the Pre�evo Valley
21st century
* 2001 2001 Macedonia conflict
* 2002 Perejil Island Crisis
* 2002-2007 Operation Enduring Freedom - Pankisi Gorge
* 2004 2004 unrest in Kosovo
* 2004 Adjara crisis
* 2008 War in South Ossetia
Yeah... you guys have done a great job ---- in slaughtering each
other. I suppose you are real proud of yourself, that there was no
"war against European cockroaches" during those times. "Save
the cockroach."
<fx: Death Disco stares wide eyed with open mouth gaping at proof of
the long history of European hate for each other>
>>>> Clearly just one psychiatrist would not be enough in your case. You're
>>>> a case for a textbook to be written about nothing but your mental
>>>> aberrations. You need an entire wing at the best psychiatric hospital
>>>> in Vienna, Austria, accompanied by an around the clock team of the
>>>> best psychiatric minds in the world examining nothing but your case.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Puerile.
>>
>> You're in a rut, my boy... why not try using a thesaurus, and come up
>> with some more inventive words. You frenetic, stupid, disingenuous,
>> gormless, choleric, ignoble, foolish, craven, idiotic, vacuous,
>> empty-headed, vapid, nefarious, bilious, witless, moronic, hedonistic,
>> smarmy, nihilist, xenophobic brain-dead demagogue. And those were
>> just a starter set.
>>
>
>"Puerile." will do just fine, sir. It describes around 95% of your debate,
TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
I wasn't the _hearing voices, emotionally disturbed fruitcake_ he has
found me to be, so I could show he is not correct, but the bastard hit
the nail right on the head."
>>>>>>>>>Americans beleive that a child is not mature until the age of 18, in
You're a fucking liar! I never said I pray to a God. So you're
caught in another of your fucking lies. And you're caught in another
lie claiming I am an athiest (sic). Where did I EVER say that???
I am a deist... but there is no way I claim such a force talks to me,
or tells me that "it" has given "a right to life to all biological
life," as you psychotically insist "it" has told you that. We
live... we die... all biological life... and there is NO "something
higher than ourselves," who gives a shit about it. All biological
life is simply a bi-product of the laws of physics, just as rocks are
a bi-product of the laws of physics. Just as every atom and molecule
on this planet, which we are constructed from is a bi-product of the
laws of physics. We are no more important than the rock. And
we have no more "right to life" than that rock, except what WE
in certain societies give to citizens. And what we give... we can
also take away. If you claim there is such a "something higher than
ourselves" who have given this "right to life to all biological life,"
YOU have to prove it. I NEVER argue that my deism is a FACT. It is
no more than my opinion, and has no validity in any way to something
I assert as more than my SUBJECTIVE belief. If you claim you were
born on Mars... YOU have to prove it. I would have no obligation to
prove you were NOT born on Mars.
>> Hey, sport... tell me what this "something than ourselves" whispered
>> in your ear that no one else could hear? This should be good.
>>
>
>You hear whisperings in your ear, sir? You should see someone about that.
You're the one claiming to have heard "something higher than
ourselves" tell you that there is a "right to life for all biological
life." If you now insist you didn't hear it from "something higher
than ourselves," who was it who told you about something that is
obviously not in physical or scientific evidence of existing?
Or do you now admit that you _just made it up_? Let me make
this clear... NO biological form of life lives forever. NO object,
from the very largest of galaxies in the cosmos, to the smallest
of particles comprising the atom shows any evidence of stating
this thing you presume as FACT!
>> Let's try a little thought experiment. There is your little baby...
>> and there is this huge cockroach (cockroaches are known to carry more
>> than 50 disease causing organisms) approaching her. Your only
>> chance of that cockroach not crawling over your little baby rests
>> with your shoe. You can only step on it and kill the cockroach or
>> see that it is crawling over your baby's body, and get it off gently
>> rather than hurt your baby or the cockroach in the process. The
>> question -- Do you step on that cockroach (and become a murderer
>> according to you), or do you let that cockroach crawl on your baby
>> while you run to get some kind of paper or something to remove that
>> cockroach gently to avoid hurting your baby and that cockroach?
>> After all... according to you your baby and that cockroach are the
>> same... your baby is not superior in any way to that poor cockroach.
>> In that consideration you might step on your baby if your baby
>> appeared to be threatening the cockroach. Or maybe you would
>> just "kick" your baby like a football to save that poor cockroach.
>> After all, the baby is more likely to survive being kicked across the
>> room than the cockroach if stepping on the cockroach.
>
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
>You are going to try thinking? You should sir. You might like it.
TRANSLATION: "That fucking PV has done it to me again. He KNOWS
I can't think... but he keeps demanding I try. This is just too
complicated for me."
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
>Have you ever looked up how many "disease causing organisms" people carry?
Have you? So you advise to shoot people, and not step on cockroaches.
How very "sensitive" of you, shit-for-brains. Why don't you go live
among the cockroaches since you show so much empathy toward them?
>"Do you step on that cockroach or do you let that cockroach crawl on your
>baby while you run to get some kind of paper or something to remove that
>cockroach gently to avoid hurting your baby and that cockroach?"
>
>No sir. I pick up the cochroach, I take it outside and let it go.
You mean you'd pick it off of the arm of your baby, after your baby
has been infected with e-coli. How very fatherly of you... now you
only have to worry about your baby dying from e-coli.
>I would
>guess that you would stamp on it, splattering the poor little creature ans
>spreading it's blood which contains "more than 50 disease causing
>organisms" all over your baby. There is absolutely no reason to kill the
>cockroach sir.
I'd stamp the shit out of it just for kicks. And then spread Clorox
all over the mess, and throw my shoe in an incinerator, before it
could touch my baby. Bacteria can't jump from the floor to my baby,
but it sure can go from any of the six legs of that cockroach to my
baby's body before I could "pick it up." But then your answer is that
you consider the life of the cockroach to be more valuable than the
possibility of transmitting a deadly disease to your baby. That's
exactly the answer I expected from you. You do know that the "poor
little cockroach" will be food for the birds shortly in any case,
while the possible fatal illness it might transmit to your child will
haunt you forever... or not... since you seem cold as ice when it
comes to worrying about humans, including your own baby, but
warm and fuzzy all over when it comes to worrying about cockroaches.
Apparently if the choice came to you having to kill a cockroach to
prevent the execution of an innocent, you'd simply not _have the
heart_ to kill that cockroach, you call "the poor little creature."
Maybe I should have framed my thought experiment thusly, to
clearly put into focus how little you care about HUMANS, and how
much you care about COCKROACHES!
Since you find humans and cockroaches no different, if you had
to kill a human or kill a cockroach, and had no other choice, which
would you kill? After all, you can't make the same choice as
Buridan's donkey in this thought experiment. One or the other,
sport. Which one is it?
Regardless... I'm now getting a better focus on why you deny the
Holocaust. It's because to you six million Jews are worth less than
six million and one cockroaches, in your sick mind.
>>>>>> You're not happy merely assassinating the English language, you
>>>>>> want to crucify it before murdering it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Another one of your puerile response.
>>>>
>>>> Another one of your mindless drivel responses. Is "puerile" a
>>>> new word you've discovered?
>>>
>>>Puerile.
>>
>> Thanks for answering the question with your agreement.
>
>If you cannot win your arguments without lying then you should not be
>allowed to take part.
Pardon me... but I asked the question "Is 'puerile' a new word you've
discovered?" And you answered with that word proving it is impossible
that I was lying. The only reason you call me a liar is because you
have nothing else to use in defense of your ignorance. So you expect
to call me, what you just proved yourself to be.... shit-for-brains.
ROTFLMAO. "Wikipedia is a free, web-based, collaborative,
multilingual encyclopedia project supported by the non-profit
Wikimedia Foundation. Its 15 million articles (over 3.3 million in
English) have been written collaboratively by volunteers around the
world..."
English criminal law applies to the law in the U.K.
But if that isn't good enough for you -- See -
http://www.protectingyourself.co.uk/self-defence-law.html
This is a legal information site from the U.K. and --
Quote -- "the courts have always upheld the right of an individual to
protect themselves, or other people, and have repeatedly said that
they are permitted to use force or violence to do so."
And -- "the law in this country is very clear:
an individual is entitled to protect themselves or others;
they may inflict violence and/or use weapons to do so;
the level of violence may include killing the assailant; and,
an individual may even act pre-emptively and still be found
to have acted in self-defence."
"May include killing the assailant." End of story... you
lose...shit-for-brains. You're caught in another web of lies,
in first arguing that "You kill someone in self defense in Britian
(sic) then your conviction will read that of masnlaughter (sic)."
And then in hysterical bawling tried to ram through that lie.
Or I suppose you would disagree with "The Times On Line," See --
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/columnists/article2581201.ece
Quote: "As the law stands, if you hurt someone while defending
yourself, or while stopping a crime, you won�t be prosecuted even if
you kill, so long as what you did was reasonable in the
circumstances."
While justification of self-defense holds to a higher standard in
English law as it is applied in the U.K., than as it is applied in the
U.S., a genuine belief that one's life is in danger underpins the
legal issue of killing in self-defense under U.K. law. it is absurd
to argue that acting in reasonable self-defense will result in a
prosecution and conviction for manslaughter, which is defined as
"illegal killing," under every circumstance in the U.K., as you have
insisted.
>> quod erat demonstrandum: Death Disco is full of shit (or shite if you
>> prefer)
>
>You're guessing, sir.
Your cite without reference is inadmissible
>>>> Obviously -- IF YOU ARE CONVICTED you have committed a
>>>> crime. Thus that is not "homicide." Being convicted of a crime
>>>> associated with homicide automatically makes it at least manslaughter.
>>>> No indictment for a crime reads "homicide." It is a medical
>>>> term, not a legal term referring to the way a person has died. He
>>>> has been killed by another person, while whether it was legal or not,
>>>> is an entirely different can of worms. See --
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide
>>>> Quote -- "Homicide is not always an illegal act."
>>>>
>>>
>>>In Britain, a person can go to prison for killing in self defense. They
>>>generally do.
>>
>> Wrong -- See --
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-defence_in_English_law
>
>Wiki is American, sir. You are American, sir. You do not know the law here..
>Wiki does not live in Britain. Wiki does not know the law here. You do not
>live in Britain. I do live in Britain. Killing in self defence is
>manslaughter and it carries a custodial sentence, sir.
ROTFLMAO. "Wikipedia is a free, web-based, collaborative,
multilingual encyclopedia project supported by the non-profit
Wikimedia Foundation. Its 15 million articles (over 3.3 million in
English) have been written collaboratively by volunteers around the
world..."
English criminal law applies to the law in the U.K.
But if that isn't good enough for you -- See -
http://www.protectingyourself.co.uk/self-defence-law.html
This is a legal information site from the U.K. and --
Quote -- "the courts have always upheld the right of an individual to
protect themselves, or other people, and have repeatedly said that
they are permitted to use force or violence to do so."
And -- "the law in this country is very clear:
an individual is entitled to protect themselves or others;
they may inflict violence and/or use weapons to do so;
the level of violence may include killing the assailant; and,
an individual may even act pre-emptively and still be found
to have acted in self-defence."
"May include killing the assailant." End of story... you
lose...shit-for-brains. You're caught in another web of lies,
in first arguing that "You kill someone in self defense in Britian
(sic) then your conviction will read that of masnlaughter (sic)." And
then in hysterical bawling tried to ram through that lie.
>> Apparently you just use your imagination in your arguments, and
>> don't even bother with the truth. To you... like to Hitler... the
>> TRUTH is just an inconvenience if it conflicts with your agenda.
>>
>
>You have just describes your "Strategy" correctly sir. It's time you were
>honest with yourself.
Once again your argument against my proof is that I must be using
YOUR strategy. When have you EVER "told the truth"?
>>>> Manslaughter, however, is a crime... Homicide is NOT a crime,
>>>> unless it is determined that a crime was committed. Self-defense
>>>> is not a crime, and no killing that is determined by the state
>>>> prosecutor as self-defense is a crime.
>>>
>>>In Britain, killing a person in self defence is manslaughter and
>>>manslaughter is a crime. Very few avoid a custodial sentence.
>>>
>> Wrong -- See
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-defence_in_English_law
ROTFLMAO. "Wikipedia is a free, web-based, collaborative,
multilingual encyclopedia project supported by the non-profit
Wikimedia Foundation. Its 15 million articles (over 3.3 million in
English) have been written collaboratively by volunteers around the
world..."
English criminal law applies to the law in the U.K.
But if that isn't good enough for you -- See -
http://www.protectingyourself.co.uk/self-defence-law.html
This is a legal information site from the U.K. and --
Quote -- "the courts have always upheld the right of an individual to
protect themselves, or other people, and have repeatedly said that
they are permitted to use force or violence to do so."
And -- "the law in this country is very clear:
an individual is entitled to protect themselves or others;
they may inflict violence and/or use weapons to do so;
the level of violence may include killing the assailant; and,
an individual may even act pre-emptively and still be found
to have acted in self-defence."
"May include killing the assailant." End of story... you
lose...shit-for-brains. You're caught in another web of lies,
in first arguing that "You kill someone in self defense in Britian
(sic) then your conviction will read that of masnlaughter (sic)."
And then in hysterical bawling tried to ram through that lie.
>Already argued, sir.
And you've already lost three times now. When do you plan to
stop lying, shit-for-brains???
>> Apparently you just use your imagination in your arguments, and
>> don't even bother with the truth. To you... like to Hitler... the
>> TRUTH is just an inconvenience if it conflicts with your agenda.
>
>You have just describes your "Strategy" correctly sir. It's time you were
>honest with yourself.
Stop repeating your lies. Repetition has no relation to accuracy.
>> Why don't you try something new... Like telling the truth?
>
>Pot? Pot? this is kettle. Colour check please...
TRANSLATION: "Too bad, PV, I like lying too much to ever change."
>> <clip raving hysterical denial of the truth>
>>
>>>>>>"Homicide does not necessarily
>>>>>> involve deliberation. But it can. Deliberation under the law
>>>>>> is a very complex issue. There can be deliberation in homicide,
>>>>>> and manslaughter, and murder. While there be a lack of
>>>>>> deliberation in homicide and manslaughter. Murder must show
>>>>>> deliberation. Why is this so hard for you to grasp??? Is the
>>>>>> retention of facts really that difficult for you.
>>>>>
>>>>>You seem to spend a lot of time answering questions that nobody asked
>>>>>them
>>>>>reprimanding them for not knowing the answer and this is without the
>>>>>courtesy of bothering to find out if they do know the answer. Puerile
>>>>
>>>> Heh... tough shit, kid. You're the ignoramus who insisted "If a
>>>> person deliberatly (sic) kills another then it is murder."
>>>
>>>Only on you, dear fellow. Such exposes your stupidity.
>>>
>> I'm not the one having offered the incredibly ignorance comment that
>> "If a person deliberatly (sic) kills another then it is murder." You
>> offered that incredibly ignorant comment, and don't have a leg to
>> stand on. I'll bet if YOU had to kill someone in self-defense that
>> you'd be the first one screaming of innocence.
>
>Nonsense, dear fellow.
Face it, shit-for-brains... you're a wimp who only recently was
weaned.
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>Then you know your definition was wrong, sir.
No proof offered. Your claim fails. Your psychotic God-complex is
not good enough to wiggle out of this one, shit-for-brains. Either
put up or shut up, by way of offering some concrete proof through
a definition in the English language that "prejudice" is a "static"
word. Characters acting in a play or in a fiction novel can be called
"static characters," but that doesn't apply to words in the English
language. Human nature can be described as "static" or "dynamic,"
but obviously that again has nothing to do with words such as
"prejudice," which is a word that DESCRIBES a "mental abstraction."
Your argument is ludicrous since everyone has a DIFFERENT
"mental abstraction" of what "prejudice" is exactly. And their
view is not locked in concrete, as anyone may change his
subjective view of what he sees as that "mental abstraction."
That's far from "static."
>> <clip more hysterical raving from the Bubble-boy who has been deprived
>> of any intellect whatsoever>
>>
>
>I have already accepted your surrender, sir.
It's that psychotic God-complex of yours talking to you rather than my
"surrender," my young ignorant child. Saying things that make it
appear you believe you are God, that what you say must be taken as
fact rather than your silly opinion... comments of yours such as --
"I don't need to prove it, dear fellow."
"I am not obliged to prove it to you."
"I am not obliged to prove anything to you, sir."
"I do not need to offer scientific proof"
"I am the exclusive author of my issue and only I have
the authority to make and declerations(sic) base (sic) upon it."
"I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything."
etc... etc... etc...
And finally -- Your claim that "It's the unknown, sir."
Which you argue is _an unknown but known to you_
Yet, you arrived at the incorrect answer. You received a failing
grade. An "F" in fact, 1) for coming up with the wrong answer
in respect to the parameters given in the problem, and 2) for
having shit-for-brains, and being a horse's ass (or arse, if you
prefer).
>> This is a simple problem in arithmetic if one understands the
>> question. And you should be able to compute it in your head, and
>> not need to even resort to paper and pen, or a computer. You
>> shouldn't even need "the back of an envelope."
>>
>
>It was very simple, sir. They teach it to 13 year old physics students. Is
>that where you learned it, sir?
Yet, you fucked it up. And even fucked it up using pen and pencil,
and calculator, and references... none of which were needed to solve
the very easy problem.
>>>> Nor do I have to consult wikipedia to know what mens rea and actus
>>>> reus mean. But obviously you had to look it up.
>>
>> <clip vacuous repeating of my comment>
>
>I've already accepted your surrender.
It's that psychotic God-complex of yours talking to you rather than my
"surrender," my young ignorant child. Saying things that make it
appear you believe you are God, that what you say must be taken as
fact rather than your silly opinion... comments of yours such as --
"I don't need to prove it, dear fellow."
"I am not obliged to prove it to you."
"I am not obliged to prove anything to you, sir."
"I do not need to offer scientific proof"
"I am the exclusive author of my issue and only I have
the authority to make and declerations(sic) base (sic) upon it."
"I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything."
etc... etc... etc...
And finally -- Your claim that "It's the unknown, sir."
Which you argue is _an unknown but known to you_
>>
>>>What you are saying to me is that you did not do any research. This
>>>explains
>>>why you get so many words wrong. I suggest you buy a dictionary, sir.
>>>
>> <clip vacuous repeating of my comment>
>
>I've already accepted your surrender.
It's that psychotic God-complex of yours talking to you rather than my
"surrender," my young ignorant child. Saying things that make it
appear you believe you are God, that what you say must be taken as
fact rather than your silly opinion... comments of yours such as --
"I don't need to prove it, dear fellow."
"I am not obliged to prove it to you."
"I am not obliged to prove anything to you, sir."
"I do not need to offer scientific proof"
"I am the exclusive author of my issue and only I have
the authority to make and declerations(sic) base (sic) upon it."
"I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything."
etc... etc... etc...
And finally -- Your claim that "It's the unknown, sir."
Which you argue is _an unknown but known to you_
>>>
>>>At some point I did, yes. It's called research. It's how most people learn
>>>words which is considerably more than your method of guessing them, dear
>>>fellow.
>>
>> Then you should look up the word "prejudice" and see what a fool
>> you are, and how it describes your anti-Semitism perfectly.
>
>I did look it up sir. You claim that you do not need to. Curious
I've looked it up... and guess what? Not one single mention of the
word "static" exists in ANY definition of the word "prejudice" in ANY
English dictionary that I can find. And I have looked at about a
dozen of them, both on-line dictionaries and those I have in my
private library. So what dictionary have you been using that has
the word "static" in the definition of the word "prejudice"???
I recall the definition you did provide that only proved me right
as to the word being subjective -- a "mental abstraction," of no
real physical existence. And nowhere in that definition you provided
does the word "static" appear. So put up or shut up.
*deathly silence*
>>
>>>>>>>>>The age of the
>>>>>>>>>criminal makes the crime any less real.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Errr... what are you trying to say??? The age of the criminal DOES
>>>>>>>> NOT make the crime any less real.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That isn't what you wrote, stupid. I was correcting your comment.
>>>>>
>>>>>I know, stupid. You did not correct the comment, you copied it and
>>>>>corrected the copy.
>>>>
>>>> Right... thanks for agreeing with me. I was correcting your comment.
>>>
>>>You are so in need of attention that you beg just once for someone to
>>>agree
>>>with you. How lonely you must be. Regretably you were not correcting my
>>>comment, you were correcting your copy of my comment. without a proper
>>>cite.
>>
>> So you stand by your original comment of -- "The age of the criminal
>> makes the crime any less real." Now could you tell me what the fuck
>> that is saying???
>>
>
>If you cannot win your arguments without lying or name calling then you
>should not be allowed to take part.
Of course... you insist no one should be concerned about your support
for the execution of a 10-year-old murderer, but everyone should be
concerned about _the growing extermination of your friend, the
cockroach_. We now find that you consider manufacturers of roach
sprays and poisoned roach bait to be worse than the Nazi murderers
of six million Jews. <sarcasm> After all... you "remember" the
"Terrible 2009 Genocide of the Cockroaches" in France, but have no
recollection of any extermination of six million European Jews in the
1940s.</sarcasm>
>> the military, working as a civilian technical advisor to NATO, USAREUR,
>> and USAFE...in a variety of functions, including technical support
>> when equipment failed, and security requirements to meet cryptographic
>> security standards.
>
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
>How can one who can claim that have learned so little?
>
How can one claim to be educated and still insist that he cannot
remember anything that happened that he hasn't personally
experienced (yet he can remember "the Crusades")? How can
one claim to be sane and still insist that he talks to "something
higher than ourselves" who has told him secretly that there is
"a right to life for all biological life" in which the life of a
single cockroach is more valuable than the health of his baby?
>> In addition my home library is quite extensive -- See-
>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/library.mov
>> And I am a voracious reader.
>>
>
>> That however, is only a small part of my total library, since it does
>> not include technical works which I maintain in my computer room.
>> Which can be seen here --
>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Library.JPG
>
>It is not wise to post personal information on a public forum to someone
>your are having an aggressive debate with, sir.
Should I fear you??? I don't see how pictures of my home library
represent a threat to my safety, given I have already provided my
real name (which was detected by a cyber-stalker who could not
stand being intellectually defeated). That would represent a possible
threat, since another cyber-stalker began posting my address and
phone number and even called my home phone in a threatening
manner in speaking to my wife, but hung up before I could come
to the phone. See --
http://tinyurl.com/mev6pd
>However, you are proof that reading does not make a person "smart"
Spoken like a boy who hasn't read a book in the past month.
Wrong. You claim to be an electronics wizard, and yet you can't
follow cites when they are provided. Try again --
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jul/27/usa.ewenmacaskill
Subject -- "Compensation for men FBI let be framed."
>>>>>" If we had a perfect justice
>>>>>> system we would not convict the innocent, and we would never
>>>>>> permit an innocent to die in prison.
>>>>>
>>>>>You do not have a perfect justice system.
>>>>
>>>> That's because there is no such thing as "a perfect justice system."
>>>
>>>This is an strong argument fo the abolishment of the death penalty.
>>
>> Total mindless drivel. If you're looking for a "perfect criminal
>> justice system," and there is no such thing, then YOU are arguing for
>> the abolition of the "criminal justice system." And only a fool would
>> argue that.
>>
>
>No, sir. I am arguing the abolition of the death penalty.
So you don't care if innocent men die in prison, you just don't want
guilty murderers to be executed. Now that we have determined that...
it is fair to say that your reasons are based not upon innocent men
dying in prison, but upon your Bible-thumping belief that the lives
of murderers are worth more than the lives of the innocents who do
die in prison.
>>>>>>"And yet, both of those happen
>>>>>> rather routinely. While there is no evidence that an innocent has
>>>>>> been executed since the death penalty was reinstated 30 years ago,
>>>>>> in Gregg v. Georgia. We accept the fact that we will make mistakes
>>>>>> in the criminal justice system because it is impossible to be
>>>>>> absolutely sure of guilt. That is why we have the standard of "beyond
>>>>>> a reasonable doubt." If we had no standard at all, or a standard
>>>>>> which demanded absolute proof of guilt who could convict no one.
>>>>>> And the guilty would laugh in our face and continue their murderous
>>>>>> rampage.
>>>>>"
>>>>>
>>>>>You said it yourself, " If we had a perfect justice system". You then
>>>>>accept that you do not? An imperfect justice system should not include
>>>>>the
>>>>>death penalty
>>>>
>>>> Why not? You accept that the innocent die in prison... so what's the
>>>> difference in accepting a death penalty that is mathematically
>>>> impossible to be absolutely perfect? If you wish to stop every
>>>> innocent from ever dying in prison you have to argue abolishing
>>>> the justice system... not the death penalty... which has so far
>>>> provided no evidence of an innocent being executed.. while
>>>> innocents die every day in prison, and you don't care about THEM!
>>>>
>>>
>>>"Why not?"
>>>
>>>Becasue the justice system is imperfect, dear fellow.
>>
>> So you want to remove the criminal justice system entirely, and let
>> criminals never be stopped. You're absolutely insane to argue
>> that. Even you must see that such an argument is total insanity.
>>
>
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
>No, sir. Just the death penalty will do.
So, again... the fact that innocents do die in prison leaves you
unmoved. Only the lives of guilty murderers are your concern.
>If you cannot win your arguments without lying then you should not be
>allowed to take part.
I'm only examining the FACT that you do not oppose innocent men
dying in prison, because you do not oppose a criminal justice system
in which that occurs, while you do oppose executing guilty murderers.
Calling me a liar doesn't change the fact that there is no way you
can dispute what I have said. I pointed out that two innocents have
been PROVEN to have died in prison. You insist it doesn't bother
you to the point that you would oppose a criminal justice system
in which that can possibly happen (which is EVERY criminal justice
system). While you do oppose a guilty murderer dying in prison
through legal execution. You once said "murder is murder."
Well, let me also say that "dead is dead." The only difference
between an innocent dying in prison, and a guilty murderer being
executed, is that the former WAS INNOCENT, and the latter
WAS GUILTY OF MURDER. You do not oppose the former
happening, but jump up and down like a puppet on a string
at the thought of the latter happening.
>>>>> and a perfect justice system would not include the death
>>>>>penalty.
>>>>
>>>> Once again arguing from a false premise... there is no such thing
>>>> as "a perfect justice system." Innocents are convicted probably
>>>> every day in some court somewhere in the U.S. Shall we let
>>>> all the criminals remain free because of the chance of an innocent
>>>> dying in prison? Or do you argue abolish the U.S. criminal
>>>> justice system and let the criminals continue on their way.
>>>
>>>My premise is quite correct. If there were a perfect justice system it
>>>would not have a death penalty.
>>
>> Proven to be a lie. A TOTAL LIE. I've already showed you an
>> example of an imperfect justice system even if there were no death
>> penalty. Innocents, NOT sentenced to the death penalty, die in prison
>> every day. Apparently you are willing to let them die, and call it
>> "perfect."
>>
>
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
>Becoming angry will not aid your argument, sir.
>
It can't hurt when I see a fool insisting he doesn't care about
innocents who die in prison, that his only concern is saving the
lives of guilty murderer who might go on to murder again and
again.
>>> Any imperfect justice system which includes all off
>>>them should not inclde a death penalty.
>>
>> What the fuck are you raving about? Exactly what language are you
>> trying to communicate in, sport?
>
>English, sir.
And not doing a very good job of it, my boy. Although if your
intention was to assassinate it.. you did a fine job, my boy. Two
spelling errors in one and a half lines of text, and the use of the
word "them" without the slightest suggestion of who you mean
by "them."
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
>What was the expression you used earlier? "Tough shit."
Such language!!! And from such a young lad... didn't your
mommy teach you better?
Then why are you still here???
No sir " But you're no longer worth my time", is clearly in respect to a
person, not a partucular post, sir.
"
>
> Bet you're disappointed to see me wipe out every one of your
> irrational arguments again. But let me be absolutely clear...
> if I do stop replying to your comments that are obviously
> a product of a disturbed and degenerate mind, it will only be
> because I've grown tired of pounding each and every one of your
> shriveled-up arguments into dust.
>
Declaring yourself the winner does not make you the winner, dear sir. Court
sessions would be a lot shorter had it been the case.
"But you're no longer worth my time"
Is your surrender, sir.
>
> "I don't need to prove it, dear fellow."
> "I am not obliged to prove it to you."
> "I am not obliged to prove anything to you, sir."
> "I do not need to offer scientific proof"
> "I am the exclusive author of my issue and only I have
> the authority to make and declerations(sic) base (sic) upon it."
> "I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything."
> etc... etc... etc...
> And finally -- Your claim that "It's the unknown, sir."
> Which you argue is _an unknown but known to you_.
>
No it doesn't, sir.
>>>>>>Puerile. With all sincerity I am convinced that you are not 78 years
>>>>>>old. Your mind is dull, unfocused and your arguments are childish.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect in real life you are a rather lonely 17-year-old Dutch boy,
>>>>> who is a virgin, afraid of the opposite sex, pimply and overweight,
>>>>> has no friends, lacks even moderate athletic abilities, is considered
>>>>> weird by his schoolmates, lives on junk food, spends an
>>>>> excessive amount of time surfing porn and White Power sites,
>>>>> and is so overly-mothered it's creepy.
>>>>
>>>>You already said that.
>>>
>>> It needs repeating.... Over and over... since it appears to be quite
>>> accurate, having brought you bellowing out of the belly of the beast.
>>
>>Nothing needs repeating over and over, my friend.
>
> No proof offered. Your claim fails. Consider how often you have
> repeated your mindless drivel in respect to using the word "puerile"
> (as if it's the only insult you know), and your equally mindless
> drivel that you talk to "something higher than ourselves." Plus
> your silly God-like pronunciations that you "are not obligated to
> prove anything" you claim as fact. Good grief... do you also picture
> yourself as sitting on a cloud with a shiny and tiny hula hoop over
> your head, changing your opinion into fact, just because you say so?
>
" No proof offered. Your claim fails"
An unreferenced cite is inadmissible.
>>Repetition has no relation to accuracy.
>
> How very "puerile" that claim is. Keep in mind that you repeating
> your lies has no relation to the truth.
>
I don't have to lie, sir. Lying is your strategy.
>>Saying that, however;
>>Curios. You announce that we are done but you reply to one of my posts
>>afterwards. This is strange.
>
> What's really strange is your psychotic belief that you hear voices
> _from on high_ that have told you that "all biological life has a
> right to life." Hallelujah, brother.
>
> While insisting you don't need to prove it because you've heard
> those voices. Arguing it is "the unknown," but known to you as
> "something higher than ourselves." And then you try to deny you're
> a Bible-thumper. Get outta here.
I made no such claims, sir.
>
>>>>> I suspect you do average in school since you don't appear to be
>>>>> retarded to me, but you certainly have deep psychological issues, and
>>>>> an inability to relate to others when speaking in your mother-tongue,
>>>>> thus you struggle along making mistake after mistake in the English
>>>>> language, boring us in AADP, showing a political philosophy based upon
>>>>> a belief in your "Aryan superiority," that you've never "seen a Black
>>>>> person," and a refusal to accept that the extermination of six million
>>>>> Jews in the 20th Century actually happened. In addition to arguing
>>>>> that you do remember "the Crusades," "WW II," and "the Greeks." Just
>>>>> what do you remember about the Greeks? Try to impress me with your
>>>>> knowledge of Aeschylus. Do you remember even one of his plays?
>>>>> Can you name even one of his plays? Do you remember what Crusade
>>>>> was led by Richard the Lionheart? No fair using Google now!!
>>>>
>>>>You already said that.
>>>>
>>>>"Do you remember what Crusade
>>>>> was led by Richard the Lionheart?"
>>>>
>>>>No sir. I wan't there.
>>>
>>> Yet you stated you remember the Crusades... In fact you asked me
>>> if I remembered the Crusades. You couldn't ask that if you didn't
>>> remember the Crusades.
>>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
You use the expression, "young" like some form of accusation, sir. It is
evident that you escrimate against "the young". However I am most definately
younger than 78 but I am older than your mental age, dear fellow.
>
>>No I didn't, sir. However.
>
> I have the proof, sport. Your words that "You do not remember what is
> not in your memory and it is not in your memory if you did not
> experience or witness it first hand." Which means the same as saying
> "you do remember what is in your memory OR what you witness first
> hand." And by relating the Crusades in mentioning them they must be
> in your memory. Otherwise you've had a full frontal lobotomy and
> haven't revealed that fact here. See -
> http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/american/memory
> MEMORY -"The ability to remember things" You do remember
> how to mathematically divide a numerator by a denominator, because
> it was taught to you, and not that you have a natural instinct without
> having been taught. So why can't you remember the Holocaust? Did
> you attend a school in which WW II was not taught, but the Crusades
> were?
"And by relating the Crusades in mentioning them they must be in your
memory"
Your logic is erroneous, sir.
>
> So if you can't remember a THING we call the Holocaust you are
> certainly denying that there was a Holocaust. Yet you do "remember"
> a thing called the Crusades. Since you continue to have the
> information that there were Crusades in your mind. How else
> could you know of it, if it was not present in your memory?
>
> and --
"So if you can't remember a THING "
I made no such claim, sir.
I don't sound very anything, sir. You cannot hear me,
"deathly silence" was your response in your post therefore it came from you,
dear fellow. Really sir; if you cannot win an argument without lying then
you should not be allowed to play.
>> If you
>>cannot win your arguments without lying or name calling then you should
>>not
>>be allowed to take part.
>
> I never, ever lie. Claiming I do is simply your own smear tactics to
> discredit my exposing your own lies and deceit. It's a popular
> tactic used by those who are either exposed for being a liar or want
> to shift the argument (which is recognized as lost) to one of ad
> hominem, about presumed, but unexplained or lacking a cite to past
> comments. Simply call the person who exposes you -- a liar. And
> then *plonk* him as if that proves he is a liar. As to name
> calling... I have seldom found a more "name-calling-worthy" poster
> than you, sport.
>
"I never, ever lie"
Another lie, sir.
> But you have no cite of any lie from me, while I have the evidence of
> your claims that you _talk to_ "something higher than ourselves," and
> "it" talks back to you. Plus all the times I have caught you in a lie
> and your answer was --
>
Your cite your own lies, sir.
> "I don't need to prove it, dear fellow."
> "I am not obliged to prove it to you."
> "I am not obliged to prove anything to you, sir."
> "I do not need to offer scientific proof"
> "I am the exclusive author of my issue and only I have
> the authority to make and declerations(sic) base (sic) upon it."
> "I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything."
> etc... etc... etc...
> And finally -- Your claim that "It's the unknown, sir."
> Which you argue is _an unknown but known to you_.
> All above are obvious attempts to cover you your lies.
You already said that sir. Really, sir; do you think that repeating your
lies adds credibility to them? It really does not work that way, sir.
Pot? Pot? This is kettle; colour check please.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/netdict/hypocrite
>
>>"What is the theoretical electromagnetic resonant frequency in Hz of a 20
>>cm quarter-wave-length transmission line"
>
> That's what I said. However that is not the full problem as I
> presented it. Try to be precise and read my words, you moron.
> Repeating --
>
> " What is the theoretical electromagnetic resonant frequency in Hz of
> a 20 cm quarter-wave-length transmission line, presuming the velocity
> of light is exactly 300,000,000 meters/per second, and no other
> factors affect this resonant frequency?"
The speed of light is 299,792,458 meters per second, not 300,000,000
meters/per second, sir. Some people round it to that and when determining f
in megacycles set C to 300 but they lose accuracy.
The formula for resonanct is f=c/lamda in Cs dear sir of if you are
contructiing a coaxial antenna (unlikely on the frequency you have chosen)
then the formula is f=(c/lamda)*v
Where c is the speed of light, lamda is wavelength, and v is velocity
factor.
"Not bad for gobbledygook"
Basic antenna principles, sir. You need to catch up on your research
"fact that your answer is wrong"
Yes sir. The answer was wrong. It occurred to me a few minutes after I
posted and while making tea that I calculated the quarter waves backwards
and that i didn't actually need to calculate them at all as all you asked
for was the "resonant frequency"(Sic) of the antenna. but had as you
could see from my follow up post, I corrected it and came up with the right
answer. Of course I expect you to protest most strongly that you did not see
my follow up post. Now sir, we shall see how you handled my particular
problem.
Cs is a perfectly acceptable term, sir. some use C/s and some prefer C/t or
C/(T60)
Your feeble attempt to avoid solving that simple basic principles problem is
noted, sir.
>>> Now this theoretical frequency is a simple problem in arithmetic if
>>> one understands the question. And you should be able to compute it in
>>> your head, and not need to even resort to paper and pen, or a
>>> computer.
>>>
>>"Now this theoretical frequency is a simple problem in arithmetic "
>>
>>Very simple, sir. I'm amazed you chose not to gave me one on Ohm's law.
>
> Ohm's law does not deal with AC. When reactive elements such as
> capacitors, inductors, or transmission lines are involved in a circuit
> to which AC or time-varying voltage or current is applied, the
> relationship between voltage and current becomes the solution to a
> differential equation, so Ohm's law does not directly apply since that
> form contains only resistances having value R, not complex impedances
> which may contain capacitance ("C") or inductance ("L").
"Ohm's law does not deal with AC"
Wrong, sir. Ohms law applies to ac very much so as long as you remember to
include impedence and phase angles rather than just resistance sir.
>
> Kirchoff's law is applicable with AC circuits.
Of course it does, sir. It also applies to DC circuits,
>
>>My question to you is slightly more complicated but I'm sure you can crack
>>it.
>
> And yet you chose to overly complicate it. Why can't you be just as
> precise when you refer to "something higher than ourselves," given you
> insist that this "something" has told you personally about having
> given a "right to life to all biological life"?
>
The question was very simple sir. It merely expresses the attentuation of a
low pass filter at a given frequency. All the numbers for you to solve it
are there, sir. If I wanted to "overly complicate it" I would have asked for
the phase angle in radians, dear sir.
> Your trouble is that you confuse your subjective views with objective
> facts. No matter how hard you try... they are not the same. There
> is no possibility whatsoever of "something higher than ourselves,"
> actually being an "object" that we can examine and agree upon what
> that object is. Just as there is no possibility whatsoever of
> "prejudice" actually being an "object" that we can examine and agree
> upon what that object is.
>
Your feeble attempt to avoide the problem posed has been noted, sir.
>>>>>>Perhaps the use of caps will help you around your obvious learning
>>>>>>difficulty.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can't prove your silly argument. How long has it been since
>>>>> you were weaned? Answer the question, without using a question.
>>>>> Bet you can't do it.
>>>>
>>>>I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything.
>>>
>>> So you can't answer the question. Why did I already know that if
>>> I'm not smart?
>>>
>>
>>You're guessing again, sir.
>>Curios. You announce that we are done but you reply to one of my posts
>>afterwards. This is strange.
>
> You're repeating yourself, shit-for-brains. Yet you're still avoiding
> the question.
>
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrite
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
I was answering your debate, sir.
>
>>>>>>It's your
>>>>>>arrogance that pushes to to actually rewrite the word.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're the one having rewritten the word to suit your own childish
>>>>> ego, while having absolutely no proof of your argument. The
>>>>> only use of "static" in describing any word is "electrical or acoustic
>>>>> activity that can disturb communication." And you try that
>>>>> with just about every word you offer. Words either convey the
>>>>> meaning of an "object," thus "objective,' or they convey the
>>>>> meaning of a "mental abstraction," thus "subjective."
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Nonsense. I use "Static" in a correct context.
>>>
>>> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>>
>>An unreferenced cite is inadmissible.
>
> Quite true... your lack of a referenced cite showing "static" to refer
> to "prejudice" makes your argument inadmissible.
It was not a cite, sir, so no reference is required.
>
>>> Saying it, is not proving it. Unless you abide by the diktat of
>>> Hitler, who insisted that "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep
>>> saying it, and eventually they will believe it"
>>
>>I have no obligation to prove my arguments.
>
> Using that psychotic God-complex of yours does not mean you have no
> obligation to prove your arguments, shit-for-brains. Only "something
> higher than ourselves" does not have to prove "its" arguments. But
> I guess I should pity you because you have that psychotic
> Bible-thumper belief that "something higher than ourselves" talks to
> you directly.... Hallelujah, brother.
I am not religious sir.
>
>>>>>>> In fact, I do not redefine definitions. I use them as weapons to
>>>>>>> crush idiots like you, who have little knowledge of the English
>>>>>>> language, and thus distort words in a biased effort to twist to your
>>>>>>> own sick agenda.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You repeatidly and deliberately misuse dictionary definition
>>>>>>regardless
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>that you have cobnsulted a dictionary but you change them anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> I put the definitions up... and you simply ignore them as if they do
>>>>> not exist. How can I possibly deal with someone who speaks gibberish,
>>>>> and insists the English language is made as he desires to make it, not
>>>>> as it actually exists?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You change them, sir.
>>>
>>> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>>
>>An unreferenced cite is inadmissible.
>
> Quite right... so why do you keep claiming cites without references,
> shit-for-brains?
I don't, sir.
>
>>> Saying it, is not proving it. Unless you abide by the diktat of
>>> Hitler, who insisted that "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep
>>> saying it, and eventually they will believe it"
>>>
>>> Oh, wait... you do abide by that diktat.
>>>
>>
>>You're guessing again, sir.
>
> Wrong, shit-for-brains. I have the evidence. Of course if you
> actually BELIEVE you talk to "something higher than ourselves,"
> then you are not held responsible for your lies, since you are
> simply mentally unbalanced and do not know the difference
> between truth and fiction, and believe you hear voices.
"I have the evidence"
No you don't, sir.
No, sir. The BRITISH word is "Mummy". "Mommy" is not used here. I know
because I live here, sir. You do not, sir.
An unreferenced cite is inadmissible
>
>>If you cannot argue without lying then you should not be allowed to play
>>at
>>all.
>
> Why do you keep offering cites without references, shit-for-brains?
I do not, sir.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrite
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
You believe in a god, sir?
>
>>> It's been 120 years since we had a massacre in the U.S. (wounded
>>> knee. which ended up with 146 men, women and children killed).
>>> Sad to say that I cannot say the same about Europe (6 million
>>> Jews exterminated, with an equal number of others exterminated
>>> in the Nazi killing machine) and your country (107,000 Dutch Jews sent
>>> to Auschwitz... only 5,200 survived). You should be ashamed of
>>> your history. Claiming you can't "remember it," is no excuse for
>>> forgetting it.
>>>
>>
>>The USA is about 300 years old, give or take. Europe spreads over many
>>millennia, dear sir.
>
> You would think Europeans would have learned in those many
> millennia... Yet there is no evidence of that having happened.
Learned what, sir? That the death penalty is wrong? Yes sir, most of Europe
have learned that. They have also learned not to trust America as the only
thing they have invented and not plagiarized is condensed milk, dear fellow.
.
>
>> In perspective, your people have had thier fair share
>>of bloodshed, sir.
>
> How do you remember that? Did you experience the U.S 300 years ago?
It's called "an education", sir.
> Were you there at Wounded Knee?? Europe, in the last 100 years,
> murdered in various genocides at least 100 times the total number of
> murders in genocides in the U.S. in that full 300 years. Shit...
> Europe managed to do it five times at much in only FIVE years In the
> 20th Century!!! And more than once in that 20th Century. While the
> bloody history of Europe's past should cause you to weep... but you
> can't REMEMBER it. How very convenient for you.
However, most of europe had the sense to abolish the death penalty, sir.
>
> The 20th Century was the bloodiest century in human history. And
> that bloodshed was 99.99% the result of Europe's citizens inability
> to get along with each other.
Whilest America sat back till the last minute then tried to claim they saved
everyone sir.
>
> However, you've certainly left me ROTFLMAO.
Puerile, sir.
>
> Let's look at only a few wars in Europe, from the 13th Century on.
>
> Before 19th Century --
>
> * 1208-1227 Conquest of Estonia
> * 1209-1229 Albigensian Crusade
> * 1282-1302 War of the Sicilian Vespers
> * 1296-1357 Wars of Scottish Independence
> * 1337-1453 Hundred Years' War
> * 1419-1434 Hussite Wars
> * 1455-1487 Wars of the Roses
> * 1522-1559 Habsburg-Valois Wars
> * 1558-1583 Livonian War
> * 1562-1598 French Wars of Religion
> * 1568-1648 Eighty Years' War
> * 1580-1583 War of the Portuguese Succession
> * 1585-1604 Anglo-Spanish War (1585)
> * 1594-1603 Nine Years War (Ireland)
> * 1618-1648 Thirty Years' War
> * 1640-1688 Portuguese Restoration War
> * 1642-1651 English Civil War
> * 1652-1674 Anglo-Dutch Wars
> * 1667-1668 War of Devolution
> * 1667-1683 Great Turkish War
> * 1688-1697 War of the League of Augsburg
> * 1700-1721 Great Northern War
> * 1701-1713 War of the Spanish Succession
> * 1718-1720 War of the Quadruple Alliance
> * 1740-1748 War of the Austrian Succession
> * 1756-1763 Seven Years' War
> * 1789-1799 French Revolution
>
> 19th century
>
> * 1792-1815 Napoleonic Wars
> * 1830 Ten Days Campaign (following the Belgian Revolt)
> * 1830-1831 Polish-Russian war
> * 1848-1851 First Schleswig War
> * 1848-1866 Italian Independence wars
>
> * 1848-1849 First Italian Independence War
> * 1859 Second Italian Independence War
> * 1866 Third Italian Independence War
>
> * 1854-1856 Crimean War
> * 1864 Second Schleswig War
> * 1864 January Uprising
> * 1866 Austro-Prussian War
> * 1870-1871 Franco-Prussian War
> * 1877-1878 Russo-Turkish War
> * 1885 Serbo-Bulgarian War
> * 1893-1896 Cod War of 1893
> * 1897 First Greco-Turkish War
>
> 20th century
>
> (In general all wars are listed)
>
> * 1911-1912 Italo-Turkish War
> * 1912-1913 Balkan Wars
> o 1912-1913 First Balkan War
> o 1913 Second Balkan War
> * 1914-1918 World War I
> * 1916 Easter Rising
> * 1917-1921 Russian Civil War
> * 1918 Finnish Civil War
> * 1918 Polish-Czech war for Teschen Silesia
> * 1918-1919 Polish-Ukrainian War
> * 1918-1919 Greater Poland Uprising
> * 1918-1920 Estonian Liberation War
> * 1918-1920 Latvian War of Independence
> * 1919-1920 Czechoslovakia-Hungary War
> * 1919-1921 Silesian Uprisings
> * 1919-1921 Polish-Soviet War
> * 1919-1921 Anglo-Irish War
> * 1920 Polish-Lithuanian War
> * 1922-1923 Irish Civil War
> * 1936-1939 Spanish Civil War
> * 1939-1945 World War II
> o 1939-1940 Winter War
> o 1941-1944 Continuation War
> o 1944 Slovak National Uprising
> * 1946-1949 Greek Civil War
> * 1956 Uprising in Poznan
> * 1956 Soviet invasion of Hungary
> * 1959-Ongoing ETA's campaign
> * 1968 Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia
> * 1969-1998 The Troubles of Northern Ireland
> * 1970-1984 Red Brigades campaign of terror
> * 1974 Turkish invasion of Cyprus
> * 1988-1994 Nagorno-Karabakh War
> * 1989 Romanian Revolution
> * 1991 Ten-Day War in Slovenia
> * 1991-1992 War in South Ossetia
> * 1991-1993 Georgian civil war
> * 1991-1995 Croatian War of Independence
> * 1992 War of Transnistria
> * 1992-1998 First War in Abkhazia
> * 1992-1995 Bosnian War
> * 1994-1996 First Chechen War
> * 1996-1999 First and Second Kosovo Wars
> * 1997-Ongoing Northern Irish Republican Dissidents conflict
> * 1998 Second War of Abkhazia
> * 1999 Dagestan War
> * 1999-Ongoing Second Chechen War
> * 1999-2001 Insurgency in the Presevo Valley
>
> 21st century
>
> * 2001 2001 Macedonia conflict
> * 2002 Perejil Island Crisis
> * 2002-2007 Operation Enduring Freedom - Pankisi Gorge
> * 2004 2004 unrest in Kosovo
> * 2004 Adjara crisis
> * 2008 War in South Ossetia
>
> Yeah... you guys have done a great job ---- in slaughtering each
> other. I suppose you are real proud of yourself, that there was no
> "war against European cockroaches" during those times. "Save
> the cockroach."
You've looked up actual history, sir? You've done some research. I'm
amazed. We shall see how long it takes you to catch up. Not long I'd wager.
You seem to be invading everybody and you still have the barbaric death
penalty.
>
> <fx: Death Disco stares wide eyed with open mouth gaping at proof of
> the long history of European hate for each other>
Wishful thinking on your part, sir.
>
>>>>> Clearly just one psychiatrist would not be enough in your case. You're
>>>>> a case for a textbook to be written about nothing but your mental
>>>>> aberrations. You need an entire wing at the best psychiatric hospital
>>>>> in Vienna, Austria, accompanied by an around the clock team of the
>>>>> best psychiatric minds in the world examining nothing but your case.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Puerile.
>>>
>>> You're in a rut, my boy... why not try using a thesaurus, and come up
>>> with some more inventive words. You frenetic, stupid, disingenuous,
>>> gormless, choleric, ignoble, foolish, craven, idiotic, vacuous,
>>> empty-headed, vapid, nefarious, bilious, witless, moronic, hedonistic,
>>> smarmy, nihilist, xenophobic brain-dead demagogue. And those were
>>> just a starter set.
>>>
>>
>>"Puerile." will do just fine, sir. It describes around 95% of your debate,
>
> TRANSLATION ""Puerile." will do just fine, sir. It describes around 95%
> of your debate."
Are you getting angry sir?
"You pray to a god to strike me down for correcting your English, sir?
Hardly the response of an athiest."
Is not a lie, sir.
>>> Hey, sport... tell me what this "something than ourselves" whispered
>>> in your ear that no one else could hear? This should be good.
>>>
>>
>>You hear whisperings in your ear, sir? You should see someone about that.
>
> You're the one claiming to have heard "something higher than
> ourselves" tell you that there is a "right to life for all biological
> life." If you now insist you didn't hear it from "something higher
> than ourselves," who was it who told you about something that is
> obviously not in physical or scientific evidence of existing?
>
"You're the one claiming to have heard "something higher than ourselves""
I made no such claim, sir.
> TRANSLATION: "You are going to try thinking? You should sir. You might
> like it"
>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>>
>>Have you ever looked up how many "disease causing organisms" people carry?
>
> Have you? So you advise to shoot people, and not step on cockroaches.
> How very "sensitive" of you, shit-for-brains. Why don't you go live
> among the cockroaches since you show so much empathy toward them?
>
"Have you?"
No sir, but I don't need to. You blurted about desease carrying organisms,
sir.
>>"Do you step on that cockroach or do you let that cockroach crawl on your
>>baby while you run to get some kind of paper or something to remove that
>>cockroach gently to avoid hurting your baby and that cockroach?"
>>
>>No sir. I pick up the cochroach, I take it outside and let it go.
>
> You mean you'd pick it off of the arm of your baby, after your baby
> has been infected with e-coli. How very fatherly of you... now you
> only have to worry about your baby dying from e-coli.
If it was on the arm of my baby then killing it would spread it's "disease
causing organisms" all over my baby sir.
You should think your debates through, sir. Did you have any children that
lived sir?
>
>>I would
>>guess that you would stamp on it, splattering the poor little creature
>>ans
>>spreading it's blood which contains "more than 50 disease causing
>>organisms" all over your baby. There is absolutely no reason to kill the
>>cockroach sir.
>
> I'd stamp the shit out of it just for kicks. And then spread Clorox
> all over the mess, and throw my shoe in an incinerator, before it
> could touch my baby. Bacteria can't jump from the floor to my baby,
> but it sure can go from any of the six legs of that cockroach to my
> baby's body before I could "pick it up." But then your answer is that
> you consider the life of the cockroach to be more valuable than the
> possibility of transmitting a deadly disease to your baby. That's
> exactly the answer I expected from you. You do know that the "poor
> little cockroach" will be food for the birds shortly in any case,
> while the possible fatal illness it might transmit to your child will
> haunt you forever... or not... since you seem cold as ice when it
> comes to worrying about humans, including your own baby, but
> warm and fuzzy all over when it comes to worrying about cockroaches.
>
"I'd stamp the shit out of it just for kicks"
Then you are a murderer, sir, on two counts. One for killing the poor
innocent cockroach and two for infecting you baby by spreading the cockroach's
disease carrying organisms all over your baby, sir.
> Apparently if the choice came to you having to kill a cockroach to
> prevent the execution of an innocent, you'd simply not _have the
> heart_ to kill that cockroach, you call "the poor little creature."
> Maybe I should have framed my thought experiment thusly, to
> clearly put into focus how little you care about HUMANS, and how
> much you care about COCKROACHES!
You should work on thinking things through before trying thought experiments
on others, sir.
>
> Since you find humans and cockroaches no different, if you had
> to kill a human or kill a cockroach, and had no other choice, which
> would you kill? After all, you can't make the same choice as
> Buridan's donkey in this thought experiment. One or the other,
> sport. Which one is it?
>
> Regardless... I'm now getting a better focus on why you deny the
> Holocaust. It's because to you six million Jews are worth less than
> six million and one cockroaches, in your sick mind.
>
>>>>>>> You're not happy merely assassinating the English language, you
>>>>>>> want to crucify it before murdering it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Another one of your puerile response.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another one of your mindless drivel responses. Is "puerile" a
>>>>> new word you've discovered?
>>>>
>>>>Puerile.
>>>
>>> Thanks for answering the question with your agreement.
>>
>>If you cannot win your arguments without lying then you should not be
>>allowed to take part.
>
> Pardon me... but I asked the question "Is 'puerile' a new word you've
> discovered?" And you answered with that word proving it is impossible
> that I was lying. The only reason you call me a liar is because you
> have nothing else to use in defense of your ignorance. So you expect
> to call me, what you just proved yourself to be.... shit-for-brains.
>
If you cannot win your arguments without lying or (inclusive) name calling
then you should not be allowed to take part.
>>>>>>>>>>> However; we totally set aside any trial for such an adult, until
Wiki is not known for its accuracy, sir.
> English criminal law applies to the law in the U.K.
>
Yes sir, but if you suggest that killing in self defense does not carry a
prison term in the UK then you are wrong sir.
That was not a cite, sir.
Killing in self defense is manslaughter and is punishable by imprisonment,
sir.
In Britain, a person can go to prison for killing in self defence. They
generally do, sir.
>>> Apparently you just use your imagination in your arguments, and
>>> don't even bother with the truth. To you... like to Hitler... the
>>> TRUTH is just an inconvenience if it conflicts with your agenda.
>>>
>>
>>You have just describes your "Strategy" correctly sir. It's time you were
>>honest with yourself.
>
> Once again your argument against my proof is that I must be using
> YOUR strategy. When have you EVER "told the truth"?
>
You have provided no proof, sir. You have only provided an incorrectly
referenced cite.
You're guessing, sir.
>
>>> Apparently you just use your imagination in your arguments, and
>>> don't even bother with the truth. To you... like to Hitler... the
>>> TRUTH is just an inconvenience if it conflicts with your agenda.
>>
>>You have just describes your "Strategy" correctly sir. It's time you were
>>honest with yourself.
>
> Stop repeating your lies. Repetition has no relation to accuracy.
I repeat only your lies, sir.
>
>>> Why don't you try something new... Like telling the truth?
>>
>>Pot? Pot? this is kettle. Colour check please...
>
> TRANSLATION: "Pot? Pot? this is kettle. Colour check please...."
>
>>> <clip raving hysterical denial of the truth>
>>>
>>>>>>>"Homicide does not necessarily
>>>>>>> involve deliberation. But it can. Deliberation under the law
>>>>>>> is a very complex issue. There can be deliberation in homicide,
>>>>>>> and manslaughter, and murder. While there be a lack of
>>>>>>> deliberation in homicide and manslaughter. Murder must show
>>>>>>> deliberation. Why is this so hard for you to grasp??? Is the
>>>>>>> retention of facts really that difficult for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You seem to spend a lot of time answering questions that nobody asked
>>>>>>them
>>>>>>reprimanding them for not knowing the answer and this is without the
>>>>>>courtesy of bothering to find out if they do know the answer. Puerile
>>>>>
>>>>> Heh... tough shit, kid. You're the ignoramus who insisted "If a
>>>>> person deliberatly (sic) kills another then it is murder."
>>>>
>>>>Only on you, dear fellow. Such exposes your stupidity.
>>>>
>>> I'm not the one having offered the incredibly ignorance comment that
>>> "If a person deliberatly (sic) kills another then it is murder." You
>>> offered that incredibly ignorant comment, and don't have a leg to
>>> stand on. I'll bet if YOU had to kill someone in self-defense that
>>> you'd be the first one screaming of innocence.
>>
>>Nonsense, dear fellow.
>
> Face it, shit-for-brains... you're a wimp who only recently was
> weaned.
>
"Face it, shit-for-brains"
Hardly a compelling argument, sir.
"No proof offered. Your claim fails"
An unreferenced cite is inadmissible.
>>> <clip more hysterical raving from the Bubble-boy who has been deprived
>>> of any intellect whatsoever>
>>>
>>
>>I have already accepted your surrender, sir.
>
> It's that psychotic God-complex of yours talking to you rather than my
> "surrender," my young ignorant child. Saying things that make it
> appear you believe you are God, that what you say must be taken as
> fact rather than your silly opinion... comments of yours such as --
"my young ignorant child"
You have a prejudice against the "young" (Sic), sir!
Yes, sir. But I corrected it in my follow up post, the one you are about to
pretend you have not seen.
>>> This is a simple problem in arithmetic if one understands the
>>> question. And you should be able to compute it in your head, and
>>> not need to even resort to paper and pen, or a computer. You
>>> shouldn't even need "the back of an envelope."
>>>
>>
>>It was very simple, sir. They teach it to 13 year old physics students. Is
>>that where you learned it, sir?
>
> Yet, you fucked it up. And even fucked it up using pen and pencil,
> and calculator, and references... none of which were needed to solve
> the very easy problem.
"Yet, you fucked it up"
I did sir. Nevertheless, I corrected. It is fortunate I was not submitting
it to anyone whose opinion matters. However, I am still waiting to see you
answer the simple problem I set for you. What was the expression you used?
"Overly complicated"
>
>>>>> Nor do I have to consult wikipedia to know what mens rea and actus
>>>>> reus mean. But obviously you had to look it up.
>>>
>>> <clip vacuous repeating of my comment>
>>
>>I've already accepted your surrender.
>
> It's that psychotic God-complex of yours talking to you rather than my
> "surrender," my young ignorant child. Saying things that make it
> appear you believe you are God, that what you say must be taken as
> fact rather than your silly opinion... comments of yours such as --
>
> "I don't need to prove it, dear fellow."
> "I am not obliged to prove it to you."
> "I am not obliged to prove anything to you, sir."
> "I do not need to offer scientific proof"
> "I am the exclusive author of my issue and only I have
> the authority to make and declerations(sic) base (sic) upon it."
> "I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything."
> etc... etc... etc...
> And finally -- Your claim that "It's the unknown, sir."
> Which you argue is _an unknown but known to you_
>
"But you're no longer worth my time"
That was your surrender, sir.
>>>
>>>>What you are saying to me is that you did not do any research. This
>>>>explains
>>>>why you get so many words wrong. I suggest you buy a dictionary, sir.
>>>>
>>> <clip vacuous repeating of my comment>
>>
>>I've already accepted your surrender.
>
> It's that psychotic God-complex of yours talking to you rather than my
> "surrender," my young ignorant child. Saying things that make it
> appear you believe you are God, that what you say must be taken as
> fact rather than your silly opinion... comments of yours such as --
>
> "I don't need to prove it, dear fellow."
> "I am not obliged to prove it to you."
> "I am not obliged to prove anything to you, sir."
> "I do not need to offer scientific proof"
> "I am the exclusive author of my issue and only I have
> the authority to make and declerations(sic) base (sic) upon it."
> "I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything."
> etc... etc... etc...
> And finally -- Your claim that "It's the unknown, sir."
> Which you argue is _an unknown but known to you_
>
"But you're no longer worth my time"
That was your surrender, sir.
>>>>
>>>>At some point I did, yes. It's called research. It's how most people
>>>>learn
>>>>words which is considerably more than your method of guessing them, dear
>>>>fellow.
>>>
>>> Then you should look up the word "prejudice" and see what a fool
>>> you are, and how it describes your anti-Semitism perfectly.
>>
>>I did look it up sir. You claim that you do not need to. Curious
>
> I've looked it up... and guess what? Not one single mention of the
> word "static" exists in ANY definition of the word "prejudice" in ANY
> English dictionary that I can find. And I have looked at about a
> dozen of them, both on-line dictionaries and those I have in my
> private library. So what dictionary have you been using that has
> the word "static" in the definition of the word "prejudice"???
> I recall the definition you did provide that only proved me right
> as to the word being subjective -- a "mental abstraction," of no
> real physical existence. And nowhere in that definition you provided
> does the word "static" appear. So put up or shut up.
"word "static" exists in ANY definition of the word "prejudice"
I never said it did, sir.
>
> *deathly silence*
You are anything but silent, sir.
If you cannot win your arguments without lying or name calling then you
should not be allowed to take part.
".</sarcasm>"
Of course it was, sir. I doubt even you can be that stupid.
Your debate has no logical flow, sir.
>>> In addition my home library is quite extensive -- See-
>>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/library.mov
>>> And I am a voracious reader.
>>>
>>
>>> That however, is only a small part of my total library, since it does
>>> not include technical works which I maintain in my computer room.
>>> Which can be seen here --
>>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Library.JPG
>>
>>It is not wise to post personal information on a public forum to someone
>>your are having an aggressive debate with, sir.
>
> Should I fear you??? I don't see how pictures of my home library
> represent a threat to my safety, given I have already provided my
> real name (which was detected by a cyber-stalker who could not
> stand being intellectually defeated). That would represent a possible
> threat, since another cyber-stalker began posting my address and
> phone number and even called my home phone in a threatening
> manner in speaking to my wife, but hung up before I could come
> to the phone. See --
> http://tinyurl.com/mev6pd
" Should I fear you??? "
No sir. I offer no threat to your safety but I cannot speak for others.
>
>>However, you are proof that reading does not make a person "smart"
>
> Spoken like a boy who hasn't read a book in the past month.
You're guessing, sir.
No, sir. I was right. you failed to reference and post the correct cite.
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jul/27/usa.ewenmacaskill
> Subject -- "Compensation for men FBI let be framed."
Have you never been taught the correct procedure for referencing cites, sir?
>
>>>>>>" If we had a perfect justice
>>>>>>> system we would not convict the innocent, and we would never
>>>>>>> permit an innocent to die in prison.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You do not have a perfect justice system.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's because there is no such thing as "a perfect justice system."
>>>>
>>>>This is an strong argument fo the abolishment of the death penalty.
>>>
>>> Total mindless drivel. If you're looking for a "perfect criminal
>>> justice system," and there is no such thing, then YOU are arguing for
>>> the abolition of the "criminal justice system." And only a fool would
>>> argue that.
>>>
>>
>>No, sir. I am arguing the abolition of the death penalty.
>
> So you don't care if innocent men die in prison, you just don't want
> guilty murderers to be executed. Now that we have determined that...
> it is fair to say that your reasons are based not upon innocent men
> dying in prison, but upon your Bible-thumping belief that the lives
> of murderers are worth more than the lives of the innocents who do
> die in prison.
>
"So you don't care if innocent men die in prison"
Yes I do, sir. that's why I oppose the death penalty.
There is no logical flow to your argument, sir.
>
>>If you cannot win your arguments without lying then you should not be
>>allowed to take part.
>
> I'm only examining the FACT that you do not oppose innocent men
> dying in prison, because you do not oppose a criminal justice system
> in which that occurs, while you do oppose executing guilty murderers.
> Calling me a liar doesn't change the fact that there is no way you
> can dispute what I have said. I pointed out that two innocents have
> been PROVEN to have died in prison. You insist it doesn't bother
> you to the point that you would oppose a criminal justice system
> in which that can possibly happen (which is EVERY criminal justice
> system). While you do oppose a guilty murderer dying in prison
> through legal execution. You once said "murder is murder."
> Well, let me also say that "dead is dead." The only difference
> between an innocent dying in prison, and a guilty murderer being
> executed, is that the former WAS INNOCENT, and the latter
> WAS GUILTY OF MURDER. You do not oppose the former
> happening, but jump up and down like a puppet on a string
> at the thought of the latter happening.
>
"I'm only examining the FACT"
Correction, sir. That should say "I'm only examining my GUESS".
>>>>>> and a perfect justice system would not include the death
>>>>>>penalty.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once again arguing from a false premise... there is no such thing
>>>>> as "a perfect justice system." Innocents are convicted probably
>>>>> every day in some court somewhere in the U.S. Shall we let
>>>>> all the criminals remain free because of the chance of an innocent
>>>>> dying in prison? Or do you argue abolish the U.S. criminal
>>>>> justice system and let the criminals continue on their way.
>>>>
>>>>My premise is quite correct. If there were a perfect justice system it
>>>>would not have a death penalty.
>>>
>>> Proven to be a lie. A TOTAL LIE. I've already showed you an
>>> example of an imperfect justice system even if there were no death
>>> penalty. Innocents, NOT sentenced to the death penalty, die in prison
>>> every day. Apparently you are willing to let them die, and call it
>>> "perfect."
>>>
>>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>>
>>Becoming angry will not aid your argument, sir.
>>
> It can't hurt when I see a fool insisting he doesn't care about
> innocents who die in prison, that his only concern is saving the
> lives of guilty murderer who might go on to murder again and
> again.
" It can't hurt when I see a fool insisting he doesn't care about
> innocents who die in prison"
I made no such claim, sir.
>
>>>> Any imperfect justice system which includes all off
>>>>them should not inclde a death penalty.
>>>
>>> What the fuck are you raving about? Exactly what language are you
>>> trying to communicate in, sport?
>>
>>English, sir.
>
> And not doing a very good job of it, my boy. Although if your
> intention was to assassinate it.. you did a fine job, my boy. Two
> spelling errors in one and a half lines of text, and the use of the
> word "them" without the slightest suggestion of who you mean
> by "them."
"And not doing a very good job of it, my boy"
You did not recognise it, sir. You should take lessons in English;
especially one in what words mean.
Your debate is puerile and wasteful, sir.
Because I'm not you, sir.
J
>
>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:uf7606lsgpi3tgojf...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 15:12:43 +0100, "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>news:6lu006db3d7mcu76l...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 27 May 2010 18:30:15 +0100, "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>"> But you're no longer worth my time"
>>>
>>>Curios. You announce that we are done but you reply to one of my posts
>>>afterwards. This is strange.
>>
>> That was in respect to that particular post, and that particular
>> evening, shit-for-brains.
>
>No sir " But you're no longer worth my time", is clearly in respect to a
>person, not a partucular post, sir.
Of course... it was in respect to YOUR post. Try to pay attention.
>> Bet you're disappointed to see me wipe out every one of your
>> irrational arguments again. But let me be absolutely clear...
>> if I do stop replying to your comments that are obviously
>> a product of a disturbed and degenerate mind, it will only be
>> because I've grown tired of pounding each and every one of your
>> shriveled-up arguments into dust.
>>
>
>Declaring yourself the winner does not make you the winner, dear sir. Court
>sessions would be a lot shorter had it been the case.
Hey, you've been declaring yourself the winner, stating that you've
already "accepted <my> flag of surrender." How did you figure that
out other than declaring yourself the winner?
I'll bet you wish!
>> "I don't need to prove it, dear fellow."
>> "I am not obliged to prove it to you."
>> "I am not obliged to prove anything to you, sir."
>> "I do not need to offer scientific proof"
>> "I am the exclusive author of my issue and only I have
>> the authority to make and declerations(sic) base (sic) upon it."
>> "I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything."
>> etc... etc... etc...
>> And finally -- Your claim that "It's the unknown, sir."
>> Which you argue is _an unknown but known to you_.
>>
>
>No it doesn't, sir.
Yes, it does, my young student.
>>>>>>>Puerile. With all sincerity I am convinced that you are not 78 years
>>>>>>>old. Your mind is dull, unfocused and your arguments are childish.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suspect in real life you are a rather lonely 17-year-old Dutch boy,
>>>>>> who is a virgin, afraid of the opposite sex, pimply and overweight,
>>>>>> has no friends, lacks even moderate athletic abilities, is considered
>>>>>> weird by his schoolmates, lives on junk food, spends an
>>>>>> excessive amount of time surfing porn and White Power sites,
>>>>>> and is so overly-mothered it's creepy.
>>>>>
>>>>>You already said that.
>>>>
>>>> It needs repeating.... Over and over... since it appears to be quite
>>>> accurate, having brought you bellowing out of the belly of the beast.
>>>
>>>Nothing needs repeating over and over, my friend.
>>
>> No proof offered. Your claim fails. Consider how often you have
>> repeated your mindless drivel in respect to using the word "puerile"
>> (as if it's the only insult you know), and your equally mindless
>> drivel that you talk to "something higher than ourselves." Plus
>> your silly God-like pronunciations that you "are not obligated to
>> prove anything" you claim as fact. Good grief... do you also picture
>> yourself as sitting on a cloud with a shiny and tiny hula hoop over
>> your head, changing your opinion into fact, just because you say so?
>>
>
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
>An unreferenced cite is inadmissible.
All you need to do is look at your past comments, to see your puerile
use of the word "puerile" over and over as if it is your prayer
mantra, that you must repeat over and over to gain entrance to
that "holy spot" you insist belongs to you sitting next to
"something higher than ourselves." What does that joker look
like if he has objective existence rather than the subjective
existence resulting from a mental aberration you suffer from?
Perhaps you have a picture of that joker that you can share with
us. Or is it a picture on the cover of that Bible you keep
thumping?
>>>Repetition has no relation to accuracy.
>>
>> How very "puerile" that claim is. Keep in mind that you repeating
>> your lies has no relation to the truth.
>>
>
>I don't have to lie, sir. Lying is your strategy.
Heh... when caught in a lie, call the other a liar hoping to ignore
having been caught in a lie.
>>>Saying that, however;
>>>Curios. You announce that we are done but you reply to one of my posts
>>>afterwards. This is strange.
>>
>> What's really strange is your psychotic belief that you hear voices
>> _from on high_ that have told you that "all biological life has a
>> right to life." Hallelujah, brother.
>>
>
>> While insisting you don't need to prove it because you've heard
>> those voices. Arguing it is "the unknown," but known to you as
>> "something higher than ourselves." And then you try to deny you're
>> a Bible-thumper. Get outta here.
>
>
>I made no such claims, sir.
Stop lying. You made the exact comment that this "right to life for
all biological life" that you bang the drum for, was an "honour
strictly owned by something higher than ourselves." Obviously
it's not something that has an objective existence, or you could
show me a picture of it. Yet you offered it as PROOF of this
absurd Tooth Fairy "right to life for all biological life." Thus,
you are a liar. There is no such proof... you know it... I know
it... every reasonable person on this planet knows it. You may
_believe it_ but that has absolutely nothing to do with PROOF!
People who are religious have every right to "believe" what they
want to believe... but it is insanity to contend that "believing"
is enough to make it FACT... which is somehow PROVEN only
because of a "belief." It is the bane of all mankind in today's
world as we watch Muslim fanatics shout "Allahu Akbar" before
blowing themselves up to murder a few dozen "non-believers."
Be careful what your "something higher than ourselves," tells you to
do, sport.
>>>>>> I suspect you do average in school since you don't appear to be
>>>>>> retarded to me, but you certainly have deep psychological issues, and
>>>>>> an inability to relate to others when speaking in your mother-tongue,
>>>>>> thus you struggle along making mistake after mistake in the English
>>>>>> language, boring us in AADP, showing a political philosophy based upon
>>>>>> a belief in your "Aryan superiority," that you've never "seen a Black
>>>>>> person," and a refusal to accept that the extermination of six million
>>>>>> Jews in the 20th Century actually happened. In addition to arguing
>>>>>> that you do remember "the Crusades," "WW II," and "the Greeks." Just
>>>>>> what do you remember about the Greeks? Try to impress me with your
>>>>>> knowledge of Aeschylus. Do you remember even one of his plays?
>>>>>> Can you name even one of his plays? Do you remember what Crusade
>>>>>> was led by Richard the Lionheart? No fair using Google now!!
>>>>>
>>>>>You already said that.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Do you remember what Crusade
>>>>>> was led by Richard the Lionheart?"
>>>>>
>>>>>No sir. I wan't there.
>>>>
>>>> Yet you stated you remember the Crusades... In fact you asked me
>>>> if I remembered the Crusades. You couldn't ask that if you didn't
>>>> remember the Crusades.
>>>
>> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
>You use the expression, "young" like some form of accusation, sir.
No... I use it matter-of-factly.
> It is
>evident that you escrimate against "the young".
If there were a word in the English language that defined "escrimate"
perhaps you might be right. But given that there is no such word
your comment is just mindless drivel... apparently trying to accuse
me of something that doesn't exist in the English language.
We, my wife and I, have had children... they were nurtured to respect
their elders, and to learn from their wisdom. They have now had
children... and because our children were nurtured to respect their
elders, their children are being nurtured to respect their elders.
It's a shame that you lack such nurturing.
>However I am most definately
>younger than 78 but I am older than your mental age, dear fellow.
No proof offered. Your claim fails. An argument of presumed fact but
lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
>>>No I didn't, sir. However.
>>
>> I have the proof, sport. Your words that "You do not remember what is
>> not in your memory and it is not in your memory if you did not
>> experience or witness it first hand." Which means the same as saying
>> "you do remember what is in your memory OR what you witness first
>> hand." And by relating the Crusades in mentioning them they must be
>> in your memory. Otherwise you've had a full frontal lobotomy and
>> haven't revealed that fact here. See -
>> http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/american/memory
>> MEMORY -"The ability to remember things" You do remember
>> how to mathematically divide a numerator by a denominator, because
>> it was taught to you, and not that you have a natural instinct without
>> having been taught. So why can't you remember the Holocaust? Did
>> you attend a school in which WW II was not taught, but the Crusades
>> were?
>
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
>Your logic is erroneous, sir.
An argument of presumed fact but lacking a referenced cite is
inadmissible. Exactly how is my logic erroneous? What logical
fallacy can you show in respect to my logic? All my comments to
the best of my knowledge abide by the principles laid down by
Aristotle as syllogistic logic. All my comments abide by the Square
of Oppositions. I dislike Sophistical arguments since they lack
logic... yet that is how most of your arguments are formed.
Aristotle identified 13 logical fallacies in Sophistical Refutations.
Look them up, and tell me where my logic can be refuted. If
you can't you're just a deranged liar, on a mission of 1) Holocaust
denial, 2) racism, 3) a _save the cockroach_ crusade, 4) hearing
voices from "something higher than ourselves," that is "unknown"
to everyone but you, and 5) hoping to victimize the English
language. Clearly if you are not on Ritalin� you should be.
BTW -- You "remember" arithmetic, because your memory has
retained what you were taught, but you can't "remember" the
Holocaust... now that sophistry! Or perhaps you never were
taught history or of the Holocaust. In which case... educated
yourself -- Starting with --
http://history1900s.about.com/od/holocaust/tp/holocaust.htm
This is the perfect place for the beginner to start learning about
the Holocaust. Just as an arithmetic primary was the perfect
place for you to start learning arithmetic. If that's what you claim
is "experience," then "experience" learning of the Holocaust.
Plus, there is an exact link to "Why We Should Remember,"
which is a letter addressed directly to the youth of today
on why it is important to "remember" the Holocaust. See --
http://history1900s.about.com/od/holocaust/a/ourturn.htm
Just as your first introduction to arithmetic, began with the
explanation of why it is important to "remember" how to
use arithmetic, you can now learn why it is important to
"remember" the extermination of six million Jews on your
continent less than 70 years ago. Since your parents have
obviously abdicated their responsibility to teach you, you
should become a leader, and educated YOURSELF. Without
whining that _no one taught you about the Holocaust_,
so you can't "remember" it.... but they did teach you
"arithmetic" and that's something you can "remember."
>> So if you can't remember a THING we call the Holocaust you are
>> certainly denying that there was a Holocaust. Yet you do "remember"
>> a thing called the Crusades. Since you continue to have the
>> information that there were Crusades in your mind. How else
>> could you know of it, if it was not present in your memory?
>>
>> and --
>
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
>I made no such claim, sir.
>
Of course you did. Your exact words -- "You cannot forget or remember
the extermination of 6 million jews (sic) unless you remember them."
And then your comment about "remember." Your words -- "You do not
remember what is not in your memory and it is not in your memory
if you did not experience or witness it first hand."
Are you now denying those were your words?
Rubbish... I can feel that fear in every word you write. Don't tell
me what I can feel and cannot feel, Herr Dictator. I said "sound very
afraid." I didn't say "you are very afraid." Unlike you I don't
offer my opinion regarding how I feel as if it represents some
fact of nature. As you do in whining about your _save the
cockroaches_ campaign. Whether you are or not... you sound
very afraid to me, sport.
And that's exactly what you have offered in respect to my words
"Now let's see YOUR proof, if you're not afraid," after I had posted
my creds. I still haven't seen yours... so all there has been from
you is *deathly silence* Which is just more reason for me to have
formed the opinion that you do "sound very afraid to me."
If you cannot or will not post your own creds, to show that you have
been educated, then it is obvious that you offer ONLY *deathly
silence*.
>>> If you cannot win your arguments without lying or name calling then you should
>>>not be allowed to take part.
>>
>> I never, ever lie. Claiming I do is simply your own smear tactics to
>> discredit my exposing your own lies and deceit. It's a popular
>> tactic used by those who are either exposed for being a liar or want
>> to shift the argument (which is recognized as lost) to one of ad
>> hominem, about presumed, but unexplained or lacking a cite to past
>> comments. Simply call the person who exposes you -- a liar. And
>> then *plonk* him as if that proves he is a liar. As to name
>> calling... I have seldom found a more "name-calling-worthy" poster
>> than you, sport.
>>
>
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
>Another lie, sir.
Heh... when caught in a lie, call the other a liar hoping to ignore
having been caught in a lie.
>> But you have no cite of any lie from me, while I have the evidence of
>> your claims that you _talk to_ "something higher than ourselves," and
>> "it" talks back to you. Plus all the times I have caught you in a lie
>> and your answer was --
>>
>
>Your cite your own lies, sir.
Heh... when caught in a lie, call the other a liar hoping to ignore
having been caught in a lie. Clearly, my dear fellow, despite your
God-complex raving... you DO need to prove your allegations.
To do that... you need to juxtapose two different comments from
me which without a doubt represent a lie in one or the other of
them. Where you have lied, is quite easy to show. Each time
you claim that you "don't need to prove it," you show a part of
you that is psychotically driven to believe he is God. Humans,
my boy... need to prove EVERYTHING that they state is a FACT.
Claiming you "don't need to prove it," is claiming you are God.
And that makes you a liar.
While opinions are like ass holes... everyone has one... yet they have
no relevance in respect to proving anything, unless they are
grounded in FACT... EVIDENCE... PROOF. They only prove
you have an opinion to offer that is not grounded in fact, or by
evidence. Opinions which you hope to slip by as FACT... which again
makes you a liar.
>> "I don't need to prove it, dear fellow."
>> "I am not obliged to prove it to you."
>> "I am not obliged to prove anything to you, sir."
>> "I do not need to offer scientific proof"
>> "I am the exclusive author of my issue and only I have
>> the authority to make and declerations(sic) base (sic) upon it."
>> "I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything."
>> etc... etc... etc...
>> And finally -- Your claim that "It's the unknown, sir."
>> Which you argue is _an unknown but known to you_.
>> All above are obvious attempts to cover you your lies.
>
>You already said that sir. Really, sir; do you think that repeating your
>lies adds credibility to them? It really does not work that way, sir.
You mean you're DENYING that all of those words are YOURS? Now
you've again proved yourself to be a liar. But I need to see it
clearly. Do you deny that all or any of the above comments included
in quotation marks came from you????
ROTFLMAO. That's your EXCUSE??? I guess you figure you can murder
someone and use the excuse that another has also committed murder, so
you should be forgiven. You do know that pot... kettle... black is
not used in the fashion you use it, don't you? Since in pointing your
finger at me, there are three fingers on your hand pointing right back
at YOU.
Pay attention: Instead, you use that term when you see someone
criticize ANOTHER for some reason, and that someone has used that same
criticism in the same way in HIS COMMENTS. For example... if your
friend mxsmanic criticized another member of this group for using a
particular method and mxsmanic was also known for using that same
particular method, you, as a third party, would jump in and respond to
mxsmanic with "pot.... kettle...black." But in using it as a second
party, directed at me, your implication is that I am using the same
method as YOU... which simply shows that you believe you are the
original "pot... "
Oh, crap... this is much too complicated for your tiny mind to absorb
in one lesson.
>>>"What is the theoretical electromagnetic resonant frequency in Hz of a 20
>>>cm quarter-wave-length transmission line"
>>
>> That's what I said. However that is not the full problem as I
>> presented it. Try to be precise and read my words, you moron.
>> Repeating --
>>
>> " What is the theoretical electromagnetic resonant frequency in Hz of
>> a 20 cm quarter-wave-length transmission line, presuming the velocity
>> of light is exactly 300,000,000 meters/per second, and no other
>> factors affect this resonant frequency?"
>
>The speed of light is 299,792,458 meters per second, not 300,000,000
>meters/per second, sir. Some people round it to that and when determining f
>in megacycles set C to 300 but they lose accuracy.
Heh... in other words... you fucked it up. Thanks for that.
>The formula for resonanct is f=c/lamda in Cs dear sir of if you are
>contructiing a coaxial antenna (unlikely on the frequency you have chosen)
>then the formula is f=(c/lamda)*v
Yada... yada... yada... you're only trying to bury your ignorance in
a flood of irrelevant commentary.
>Where c is the speed of light, lamda is wavelength, and v is velocity
>factor.
Yada... yada... yada... you're only trying to bury your ignorance in
a flood of irrelevant commentary.
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
>Basic antenna principles, sir. You need to catch up on your research
I emphasized that it was simple, and needed no calculator, reference,
or even pen and paper. Apparently you fell asleep in class when I
explained that to the class.
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
>Yes sir. The answer was wrong.
And there it is, folks. I rest my case.
>It occurred to me a few minutes after I
>posted and while making tea that I calculated the quarter waves backwards
>and that i didn't actually need to calculate them at all as all you asked
>for was the "resonant frequency"(Sic) of the antenna. but had as you
>could see from my follow up post, I corrected it and came up with the right
>answer. Of course I expect you to protest most strongly that you did not see
>my follow up post. Now sir, we shall see how you handled my particular
>problem.
Yada, yada, yada. Do you know how much credit they give you
for knowing the answer AFTER you turn in your examination paper???
Jack-shit!!!
Try running back to the teacher and asking for your examination
paper back, because you thought of something while you were taking
a leak in the latrine.
I read your "excuse," but I haven't got around to responding to all of
your disturbed mind comments. I have other priorities, plus I take my
time... so I don't have to ask the teacher for my work to be returned
because I was in a hurry.
Rubbish. Hz is the ONLY acceptable term as the SI unit of frequency.
See -
http://www.bipm.org/en/si/si_brochure/chapter5/5-2.html
This is the official unit names established by the "Bureau
International des Poids et Mesures." The International System
of Units - le Syst�me international d'unit�s. And is recognized
nearly globally, and accepted as the recognized System of Units
used in both the U.K. and the Netherlands. See --
http://www.bipm.org/en/si/si_brochure/general.html
I don't have the slightest idea where you came up with Cs, since doing
a Google search of Cs, comes up with everything like "Credit Suisse
Group," and other organizations using that acronym. When I do
a Google search on - Cs "cycles per second" - I still find nothing.
There are a few that use C/S ( C slash S)... but no organization or
academy uses that or Cs, that I know of. In any case, the U.K. and
the Netherlands accept the official name of Hz, as "cycles per
second."
I notice your avoiding the more complex problem, after patting
yourself on the back for using a calculator, references, pen and
paper, and a relatively large amount of time to solve a problem
that should have been solved in your head in 30 seconds. And
then -- getting it wrong... and admitting it.
As to your problem, I have hardly ever involved myself with db
loss or gain, although the formulas in log are readily available
to those interested in such things. I'm certainly aware of how
to compute capacitive reactance which is trivial, and in your
argument --
R = 3.183 x 10^4 Ohms = 31.83 K Ohms
c = 10^-9 Farads
f = 500 Hz
thus -
Xc = 1/(2 x [pi] x f x c) = 1/(2 x 2.14 x 500 x 10^-9 Ohms)
thus reducing --
Xc= 3.183 x 10^5 ohms = 318.3 K Ohms
and --
cutoff frequency = 1/(2 x [pi] x R x c) = 1/(2 x 2.14 x 3.183 x 10^4
x 10^-9) Hz
thus reducing --
cutoff frequency = 5 x 10^3 Hz = 5 KHz
at cutoff frequency Xc = R = 3.183 x10^4 ohms = 31.83 K Ohms
cutoff frequency = -3 db
At the cutoff frequency the phase angle is 45 degrees
I dealt in digital data... data loss and db loss are two different
things. In transmitting digital data the db line loss is irrelevant
except for a highly degraded line loss or a total line loss. Digital
data has various redundancies such as parity checks and hamming
code in both horizontal, vertical and in total bit count per message.
Plus military traffic is always routed through secure communication
centers processing both unclassified and the highest classification
military traffic uses. These communication centers use a "red" -
"black" concept, where all traffic comes in as "black" fully
encrypted, and passes through decryption machine within this
secure, and highly shielded from electronic leakage. communication
center. After decryption the traffic is called "red," and highly
classified messages are now in the clear, but remain in the
communications center while they are in the "red." The communication
center then processes, and saves the traffic in what are called
ledgers, and journals on high density media, then routes the
traffic to the destination (s), and sends it back to the on-site
crypto center for encryption again before exiting the communication
center as "black" traffic, encrypted again to the final destination.
Your lesson for the day.
I only threw that trivial problem at you to see if you knew shit
about electronics. In the old days (ahh... the old days) we needed
to take a scope to disks on large platters and adjust the output on
the floating heads to resonance. It appears you have a little
knowledge but have no understanding of how to take an examination.
>>>> Now this theoretical frequency is a simple problem in arithmetic if
>>>> one understands the question. And you should be able to compute it in
>>>> your head, and not need to even resort to paper and pen, or a
>>>> computer.
>>>>
>>>"Now this theoretical frequency is a simple problem in arithmetic "
>>>
>>>Very simple, sir. I'm amazed you chose not to gave me one on Ohm's law.
>>
>> Ohm's law does not deal with AC. When reactive elements such as
>> capacitors, inductors, or transmission lines are involved in a circuit
>> to which AC or time-varying voltage or current is applied, the
>> relationship between voltage and current becomes the solution to a
>> differential equation, so Ohm's law does not directly apply since that
>> form contains only resistances having value R, not complex impedances
>> which may contain capacitance ("C") or inductance ("L").
>
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
>Wrong, sir. Ohms law applies to ac very much so as long as you remember to
>include impedence and phase angles rather than just resistance sir.
>
Rubbish. See --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohm's_law
Ohm's law simply refers to the relationship between current, voltage,
and resistance. Reactance is not part of Ohm's law.
Quoting -- "When reactive elements such as capacitors, inductors, or
transmission lines are involved in a circuit to which AC or
time-varying voltage or current is applied, the relationship between
voltage and current becomes the solution to a differential equation,
so Ohm's law (as defined above) does not directly apply since that
form contains only resistances having value R, not complex impedances
which may contain capacitance ("C") or inductance ("L")."
>> Kirchoff's law is applicable with AC circuits.
>
>Of course it does, sir. It also applies to DC circuits,
Of course it does... but just because A implies B + C, does not mean D
implies B + C. Kirchoff's Law provides solutions using differential
equations. Ohm's Law does not. Kirchoff's Law defines the electric
potential as a line integral. Thus introducing Integration in the
calculus.
>>
>>>My question to you is slightly more complicated but I'm sure you can crack
>>>it.
>>
>> And yet you chose to overly complicate it. Why can't you be just as
>> precise when you refer to "something higher than ourselves," given you
>> insist that this "something" has told you personally about having
>> given a "right to life to all biological life"?
>>
>
>The question was very simple sir. It merely expresses the attentuation of a
>low pass filter at a given frequency. All the numbers for you to solve it
>are there, sir. If I wanted to "overly complicate it" I would have asked for
>the phase angle in radians, dear sir.
Knowing the phase angle makes it trivial to convert to radians, son.
rad = degrees x (2.14159... /180)
30� = pi/6
45� = pi/4
60� = pi/3
90� = pi/2
120� = 2(pi)/3
150� = 5(pi)/6
180� = pi
210� = 7(pi)/6
240� = 4(pi)/3
270� = 3(pi)/2
360� = 2(pi)
Chee...
>> Your trouble is that you confuse your subjective views with objective
>> facts. No matter how hard you try... they are not the same. There
>> is no possibility whatsoever of "something higher than ourselves,"
>> actually being an "object" that we can examine and agree upon what
>> that object is. Just as there is no possibility whatsoever of
>> "prejudice" actually being an "object" that we can examine and agree
>> upon what that object is.
>>
>
>Your feeble attempt to avoide the problem posed has been noted, sir.
>
Now that I've made my "feeble attempt"... just try to answer mine
using a feeble attempt. We're not examining my expertise in low-pass
filters, and db. I've been retired longer than you've been living.
We're examining YOUR expertise, since you're the one blowing your horn
about --
"I'll bet you don't know what bayes theorum, linear regression mean,
and I suspect you do not know the magic number in the plume encryption
algorythm."
Not even capable of spelling algorithm correctly. Not even capable
of spelling "theorem," correctly. The two prime arguments in your
entire sentence. If you look below you will see your comment has
seven ">" in front of it, signifying that you began this thumping your
chest, yet your knuckles still drag on the ground when you walk.
While it's obscene that you dare to mention Bayes' Theorem,
considering how seldom you show the slightest knowledge of
what inductive logic even is.
Now either answer my question, since you never did answer my first
question correctly, having turned in your answer before "reading the
fucking question." If you can't then shut the fuck about your
superiority and address your holocaust denial, your racism, your
belief that you hear voices from "something higher than ourselves,"
and your belief that six million and one cockroaches are "superior"
to six million innocent Jews.
If that question was too complicated for you I'll give you an easier
one. Since you seem to claim familiarity with differential
equations... solve this one. Understand that this is the EASIEST
of all differential equation to solve, and is used over and over in
solving motion equations related to gravitation -- This one should
be a snap for you --
Solve the differential equation d�x/dt� = -g
With initial conditions x(0) = x(sub o) and v(0) = v(sub o)
We'll work our way down until we find your level of knowledge.
However, I have yet to see a single word from you that makes me
believe you have received a proper education in the arts, and
humanities. I have no idea of your natural given intelligence but it
is obvious to me that your nurturing has been greatly injured. I have
seldom met anyone with a mind that is so closed as yours is. The test
of a man's intellect is that he finds pleasure in the exercise of his
mind. Yours hasn't even been out for a walk in a very long time.
Apparently it is too small and narrow-minded to be let out by itself.
>>>>>>>Perhaps the use of caps will help you around your obvious learning
>>>>>>>difficulty.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can't prove your silly argument. How long has it been since
>>>>>> you were weaned? Answer the question, without using a question.
>>>>>> Bet you can't do it.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything.
>>>>
>>>> So you can't answer the question. Why did I already know that if
>>>> I'm not smart?
>>>>
>>>
>>>You're guessing again, sir.
>>>Curios. You announce that we are done but you reply to one of my posts
>>>afterwards. This is strange.
>>
>> You're repeating yourself, shit-for-brains. Yet you're still avoiding
>> the question.
>>
>
>http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrite
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorance
Remember... when you point your finger at me, in "calling the kettle
black," there are three fingers on that same hand pointing right back
at you, sport.
You're guessing that I'm guessing... which makes your guess nothing
but hot air.
>>>>>>>It's your
>>>>>>>arrogance that pushes to to actually rewrite the word.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're the one having rewritten the word to suit your own childish
>>>>>> ego, while having absolutely no proof of your argument. The
>>>>>> only use of "static" in describing any word is "electrical or acoustic
>>>>>> activity that can disturb communication." And you try that
>>>>>> with just about every word you offer. Words either convey the
>>>>>> meaning of an "object," thus "objective,' or they convey the
>>>>>> meaning of a "mental abstraction," thus "subjective."
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Nonsense. I use "Static" in a correct context.
>>>>
>>>> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>>>
>>>An unreferenced cite is inadmissible.
>>
>> Quite true... your lack of a referenced cite showing "static" to refer
>> to "prejudice" makes your argument inadmissible.
>
>It was not a cite, sir, so no reference is required.
"Your unreferenced site (sic) is inadmissable (sic)"
>>>> Saying it, is not proving it. Unless you abide by the diktat of
>>>> Hitler, who insisted that "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep
>>>> saying it, and eventually they will believe it"
>>>
>>>I have no obligation to prove my arguments.
>>
>> Using that psychotic God-complex of yours does not mean you have no
>> obligation to prove your arguments, shit-for-brains. Only "something
>> higher than ourselves" does not have to prove "its" arguments. But
>> I guess I should pity you because you have that psychotic
>> Bible-thumper belief that "something higher than ourselves" talks to
>> you directly.... Hallelujah, brother.
>
>I am not religious sir.
No, you just hear voices from "something higher than ourselves" who
whispered in your ear that there is this "right to life for all
cockroaches and insects and bacteria and viruses... oh, yeah... and
humans" ROTFLMAO.
>>>>>>>> In fact, I do not redefine definitions. I use them as weapons to
>>>>>>>> crush idiots like you, who have little knowledge of the English
>>>>>>>> language, and thus distort words in a biased effort to twist to your
>>>>>>>> own sick agenda.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You repeatidly and deliberately misuse dictionary definition
>>>>>>>regardless
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>that you have cobnsulted a dictionary but you change them anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I put the definitions up... and you simply ignore them as if they do
>>>>>> not exist. How can I possibly deal with someone who speaks gibberish,
>>>>>> and insists the English language is made as he desires to make it, not
>>>>>> as it actually exists?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>You change them, sir.
>>>>
>>>> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>>>
>>>An unreferenced cite is inadmissible.
>>
>> Quite right... so why do you keep claiming cites without references,
>> shit-for-brains?
>
>I don't, sir.
You did so just above, shit-for-brains.
>>>> Saying it, is not proving it. Unless you abide by the diktat of
>>>> Hitler, who insisted that "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep
>>>> saying it, and eventually they will believe it"
>>>>
>>>> Oh, wait... you do abide by that diktat.
>>>>
>>>
>>>You're guessing again, sir.
>>
>> Wrong, shit-for-brains. I have the evidence. Of course if you
>> actually BELIEVE you talk to "something higher than ourselves,"
>> then you are not held responsible for your lies, since you are
>> simply mentally unbalanced and do not know the difference
>> between truth and fiction, and believe you hear voices.
>
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
>No you don't, sir.
Yes, I do. You most certainly insisted there is this "right to life"
for all biological life, especially cockroaches." And you insisted
that you KNOW this because of "something higher than ourselves."
Which you insist is an UNKNOWN. Yet you argue that you do
know it, otherwise how would you have come into that information
from the one you claim gave that very "right to life to cockroaches"?
It's simple logic... you're the one who argued it exists. You're the
who argued it comes from "something higher than ourselves."
Well how can you have come into that information about a "right
to life for cockroaches" if you did not heard it from the very person
you claim is responsible for it? Who told you if not that "something
higher than ourselves"? Does "it" have special "angels" that talk to
you, passing you messages second-hand from "something higher than
ourselves"? Further you said it is an "unknown." Well, how the hell
do you know of it, if it's an "unknown"?
Obviously you've just piled lie upon lie upon lie. And now even deny
you wrote it... but I have the evidence. See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/fc1729e6f9101be5
Here it is, sport... your words enshrined forever in Google. Proof
that you stated -- "We do not have the to (sic) say who has the right
to life. That honour is strictly owned by something higher than
ourselves." And when I asked how you came about this information
in my words -- "Who would that be?" You responded in one word -
"Unknown." See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/92a6b831782818bf
If it's "unknown," sport... how do you KNOW it? As I said... that
God-complex of yours will do you in every time. Trust me... you
don't hear voices from "something higher than ourselves," and
you don't hear "its" angels talking to you either. Thus, you have no
evidence of any "right to life for cockroaches." It's that BIBLE-
THUMPING!!! Now those are YOUR words, sport. They are
in Google, proven to have come from you.... not "something
higher than ourselves," although you may think you are.
I don't give a rat's ass that you live in the U.K. I live in the
U.S., and if I want to use words that are from the U.S. you'll
just have to suck it up like a man. Now address the issue of
your xenophobia, which is showing in your claim that I have
to use YOUR particular wording... when you can't even spell!!
This group was created by a poster now long gone named
"Etan Ben-Ami" in 1993. He was a member of the "National
Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty," and as far as I know
was not European, since that coalition is based in Washington,
D.C. There is no recognized body that has ruled that U.K.
English is the only language permitted in AADP. Nonetheless,
I don't correct you when you use the spelling of "honour," while in
the U.S. it is spelled "honor." If you insist we use YOUR type of
spelling that is xenophobia. I am open minded and you can
use either U.K. English or U.S. English. I just wish you'd use
it CORRECTLY!
However, let's again be frank... it would not matter if I did oppose
the U.S. Death Penalty, since my argument with you is about your
Holocaust denial, your racist comments and your underlying
stupidity (which I hope is not genetic but rather a product of
cruel and unusual nurturing).
The U.S. Death Penalty is an argument which virtually has no
factual answer as to whether it should apply or not. That is why this
group has survived as long as it has. In the words of the great
Bertrand Russell -- "The most savage controversies are those about
matters as to which there is no good evidence either way." To me,
quite a bit depends upon the method of selecting those who "deserve"
to be executed, and then weeding out among those who "deserve"
to be executed, the worst of the worst, and those who are
considered almost certain to kill again given the slightest
opportunity.
For example... Rogelio Reyes Cannady!!
Here was a murderer serving two consecutive life sentences
of multiple murders he committed in 1990. While he was
incarcerated, he beat 55-year-old Leovigildo Bonal, a fellow
inmate, to death with a padlock he attached to the end of a belt.
Prison guards found Bonal lying the cell floor with his hands
tied behind his back with a belt. Cannady had no apparent
wounds or injuries, but his steel-toed boots he had used to
kick Bonal repeatedly in the head, and his clothing were
covered with blood. For that murder, Cannaday was thankfully
executed, and will never murder in or out of prison again.
But in the end, people all have their subjective view on this matter,
and most would not change their view regardless of what might
happen as a result of their support or opposition to the death
penalty. In fact, I am the only poster that I know of in this group
who has categorically stated what would need to happen for me
to change my view:
I would readily accept the U.S. death penalty being abolished if it
were forcibly abolished world-wide. But as long as abolitionists whine
about the U.S. executing only 1212 of the worst of the worst murderers
in the past 33 years and five months, averaging just a shade over 36
murderers (and ONLY murderers) per year, using the most rigid controls
and due process of any other nation even convicting their murderers -
while staying silent when Iran executes for adultery and homosexuality
using the most grotesque methods in those executions - while China
executes more in one year than we have executed in 33 - while Islam
has a death penalty in sharia law... and uses it freely - while mass
murderers guilty of genocide of the highest order escape punishment --
I have no choice but to argue that the U.S. has the right to decide
for itself what to do with OUR murderers.
And I can PROVE that locking them up and throwing away the key
has not worked in the past 33 years... See above. Nor do I EVER
expect it to work to the point that innocents are not murdered by any
murderer we send to prison for life. It is as impossible to achieve
that as it is impossible for a criminal justice system to exist that
does not accept the mathematical possibility of an innocent dying
in prison. Not even the largest computer in the world could eliminate
that mathematical possibility if we expect a criminal justice system
is used to protect innocent citizens from those who prey on innocent
citizens.
>>>>>"Xenophobia is the uncontrollable fear of foreigners.[1] It comes from the
>>>>>Greek words ????? (xenos), meaning "stranger," "foreigner" and ?????
>>>>>(phobos), meaning "fear." Xenophobia can manifest itself in many ways
>>>>>involving the relations and perceptions of an ingroup towards an
>>>>>outgroup, including a fear of losing identity, suspicion of its activities,
>>>>>aggression, and desire to eliminate its presence to secure a presumed
>>>>>purity.[2] Xenophobia can also be exhibited in the form of an
>>>>>"uncritical exaltation of another culture" in which a culture is ascribed "an
>>>>>unreal, stereotyped and exotic quality".["
>>>>>
>>>>>Cite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia
>>>>>Wikpedia.
>>>>>accessed: 27/05/10.
Gee... how did you "remember" all that, given that you've stated --
"You do not remember what is not in your memory and it is not in your
memory if you did not experience or witness it first hand."
You actually experienced or witnessed the Greeks??? You naughty boy,
you!!!
>>>>>I was correct as always, dear sir. the word "Xenophobia" was perfectly
>>>>>germane to my argument.
>>>>
>>>> If you mean does it describe YOUR methods, then there is no question
>>>> that it applies to YOU. For example, just now you questioned the
>>>> source of the word "mommy." That's definitely an example of your
>>>> xenophobia -- "fear of foreigners." While your Bible-thumping raving
>>>> about a death penalty for murderers in a land foreign to you,
>>>> certainly expresses a "relations and perceptions of an ingroup"
>>>> toward those you consider an outgroup (the U.S.).
>>>
>> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>>
>>>No, sir.I mean it describe your methods.
>>
>> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>
>An unreferenced cite is inadmissible
Quite true... so why did you claim that you're a blockhead?
>>
>>>If you cannot argue without lying then you should not be allowed to play
>>>at all.
>>
>> Why do you keep offering cites without references, shit-for-brains?
>
>I do not, sir.
>
>
>http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrite
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
>
ROTFLMAO... It's too late, sport... you already turned in your
examination without offering cites or references. Trying to do
it now... is locking the barn door after the cows have moved on.
Remember... when you point your finger at me, in "calling the kettle
black," there are three fingers on that same hand pointing right back
at you, sport.
Is the word "if" (a conditional clause) too complicated for you? IF
you were a bird you could fly. But you aren't a bird.
>>>> It's been 120 years since we had a massacre in the U.S. (wounded
>>>> knee. which ended up with 146 men, women and children killed).
>>>> Sad to say that I cannot say the same about Europe (6 million
>>>> Jews exterminated, with an equal number of others exterminated
>>>> in the Nazi killing machine) and your country (107,000 Dutch Jews sent
>>>> to Auschwitz... only 5,200 survived). You should be ashamed of
>>>> your history. Claiming you can't "remember it," is no excuse for
>>>> forgetting it.
>>>>
>>>
>>>The USA is about 300 years old, give or take. Europe spreads over many
>>>millennia, dear sir.
>>
>> You would think Europeans would have learned in those many
>> millennia... Yet there is no evidence of that having happened.
>
>Learned what, sir? That the death penalty is wrong? Yes sir, most of Europe
>have learned that. They have also learned not to trust America as the only
>thing they have invented and not plagiarized is condensed milk, dear fellow.
Yet you go on killing in genocides, like in the former Yugoslavia, and
instigating genocide in Africa, while piously and quite hypocritically
patting yourself on the back for "saving the lives of murderers." How
in the fuck can you be PROUD of that??? My wife is native-French,
while an American citizen for more than 30 years, and she is appalled
by the tragedy of what France has turned itself into. In looking the
other way and ignoring crime running rampant in the banlieu, with
every night a bonfire of cars, which with octopus tentacles creeps
closer and ever closer to the edges of Paris proper. People are no
longer unafraid to go out at night, or to travel on the Metro after 10
in the evening, when 30 years ago one could walk on just about any
street in Paris at 3 in the morning and be relatively safe. One could
ride the last Metro in any station and feel comfortable. While
expecting the police to be everywhere is a pipe-dream. Were it not
for the French "free" (sic) medical system, her entire extended family
would be at our doorstep and never leave the U.S. Every weekend
when we call them, all they do is complain about the present
conditions in France. The price of everything... the dreadful service
in both the public and private sector... the constant strikes shutting
down transportation... the dirty streets no longer kept as they were
before... and the crime... and the crime... and the crime...
>>> In perspective, your people have had thier fair share
>>>of bloodshed, sir.
>>
>> How do you remember that? Did you experience the U.S 300 years ago?
>
>It's called "an education", sir.
So you've never received an "education" about the Holocaust. And then
you wonder why I pity the lack of nurturing you have received in
your life.
>> Were you there at Wounded Knee?? Europe, in the last 100 years,
>> murdered in various genocides at least 100 times the total number of
>> murders in genocides in the U.S. in that full 300 years. Shit...
>> Europe managed to do it five times at much in only FIVE years In the
>> 20th Century!!! And more than once in that 20th Century. While the
>> bloody history of Europe's past should cause you to weep... but you
>> can't REMEMBER it. How very convenient for you.
>
>However, most of europe had the sense to abolish the death penalty, sir.
See above... Be sure to ask the Pope to bless you for saving the lives
of murderers... I understand he doesn't give a fuck about Blacks in
Africa either.... just like you.
>> The 20th Century was the bloodiest century in human history. And
>> that bloodshed was 99.99% the result of Europe's citizens inability
>> to get along with each other.
>
>Whilest America sat back till the last minute then tried to claim they saved
>everyone sir.
Since when are we RESPONSIBLE for Europe??? When was the last time
any nation in Europe helped us? I'll tell you when... when the French
helped us 300 years ago, in their own interests to gain our
independence. And we still "remember" it. While YOU can't even
remember the Nazis in your Europe attempting the extermination of
European Jewry. Six million murdered innocent Jews.. less than 70
years ago... and you can't "remember," while you do remember the
Crusades, and the "Greeks."
>> However, you've certainly left me ROTFLMAO.
>
>Puerile, sir.
What I see as your sickness is duly noted. What I see as your
affection for genocide and war is also duly noted. What I see
as your affection for murderers is also duly noted.
You should try it some time... You've argued you can't even remember
the Holocaust. Too busy to look it up... you little anti-Semitic
twerp.
>I'm
>amazed. We shall see how long it takes you to catch up. Not long I'd wager.
>You seem to be invading everybody and you still have the barbaric death
>penalty.
And you still have the cursed genocide of close to a million innocent
Tutsis brought by a European power who wants to maintain French
hegemony in Africa. You know what Mitterand said about those
million murdered innocent Tutsis... murdered with French complicity,
providing arms to the Hutus... urging them to get on with the
massacre??? He is quoted as saying -- "in such countries, genocide is
not too important." Nice leaders you elect. You curse us for
electing Bush, and it turns out that Mitterand was responsible for at
least 20 times the deaths that Bush and Blair are responsible for.
Every time I mention this... Europeans posting here suddenly turn
deaf, dumb, and blind.
>> <fx: Death Disco stares wide eyed with open mouth gaping at proof of
>> the long history of European hate for each other>
>
>Wishful thinking on your part, sir.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>>>>> Clearly just one psychiatrist would not be enough in your case. You're
>>>>>> a case for a textbook to be written about nothing but your mental
>>>>>> aberrations. You need an entire wing at the best psychiatric hospital
>>>>>> in Vienna, Austria, accompanied by an around the clock team of the
>>>>>> best psychiatric minds in the world examining nothing but your case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Puerile.
>>>>
>>>> You're in a rut, my boy... why not try using a thesaurus, and come up
>>>> with some more inventive words. You frenetic, stupid, disingenuous,
>>>> gormless, choleric, ignoble, foolish, craven, idiotic, vacuous,
>>>> empty-headed, vapid, nefarious, bilious, witless, moronic, hedonistic,
>>>> smarmy, nihilist, xenophobic brain-dead demagogue. And those were
>>>> just a starter set.
>>>>
>>>
>>>"Puerile." will do just fine, sir. It describes around 95% of your debate,
>>
>> TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
>> I wasn't what he found me to be so I could show he is not correct,
>> but the bastard hit the nail right on the head."
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Americans beleive that a child is not mature until the age of 18,
>>>>>>>>>>>in Britian, 16. In historical Britain, even younger.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't believe in the execution of anyone who commits murder
>>>>>>>>>> under the age of 18. I'm totally disinterested in the laws in the
>>>>>>>>>> U.K.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Murder is murder. You support death penalty or you oppose it. "Ifs
>>>>>>>>>and buts" give rise to descrimination.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Correct premise. Wrong inference. Wrong conclusion. The U.S.
>>>>>>>> death penalty is not murder. I support only the U.S. death penalty.
>>>>>>>> A crazy argument that if I support the U.S. death penalty I must
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
>Are you getting angry sir?
Yeah... when I see someone offer an insulting lie, it makes me angry
and also full of pity for someone who needs to use lies and smears in
methods so sneaky and smarmy. It reminds me OF others who used
the same type of lies in the 1930s, insisting there were those who
were not _praying to Jesus_ but to a "God" that wanted them to
conspire to rule the world. That led to the greatest blood-bath our
species has ever witnessed. Of course, you insist you "don't remember
it."
>"You pray to a god to strike me down for correcting your English, sir?
>Hardly the response of an athiest."
>
>Is not a lie, sir.
Rubbish. I said "If there were a "God." You expect that to mean I
pray to such an imaginary "God." So I suppose if I wrote "If you
were a Nazi," that would mean that you pray to the Nazis. You
need an intense mental examination... and I am dead serious about
that. I think you miss your mommy... being away from home for
the first time in your young life.
>>>> Hey, sport... tell me what this "something than ourselves" whispered
>>>> in your ear that no one else could hear? This should be good.
>>>>
>>>
>>>You hear whisperings in your ear, sir? You should see someone about that.
>>
>> You're the one claiming to have heard "something higher than
>> ourselves" tell you that there is a "right to life for all biological
>> life." If you now insist you didn't hear it from "something higher
>> than ourselves," who was it who told you about something that is
>> obviously not in physical or scientific evidence of existing?
>>
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
>I made no such claim, sir.
Sure you did. You asserted the exact words when I asked who
you claim gave this "right to life" to all biological life... you
responded with "something higher than ourselves." Then you
did a two-step and called it "nature," and then you called
it "biology." Do ALL these mental abstractions TALK TO YOU?
They must... since that is the only source in which you could come
by your claim that there is a FACTUAL "right to life for all
'biological life." "Something higher than ourselves," and "nature"
and "biology," do not talk to ANY human. They convey no information
in respect to any "right" of anything. The universe began with a
"big bang," and not one atom, not one particle, not one molecule,
not one protein, not one DNA snippet, not one chromosome,
not one gene, resulting from the various transformations that
energy turning into mass experienced in the past 13.5 billion years,
has a "right to life." And we, and all biological life, simply
consist of an enormous number of these particles that have no "right
to life." Our lives are writ on water.
Then you don't know how many "disease causing organisms" people carry.
So you're really arguing from a point of declared ignorance.
>>>"Do you step on that cockroach or do you let that cockroach crawl on your
>>>baby while you run to get some kind of paper or something to remove that
>>>cockroach gently to avoid hurting your baby and that cockroach?"
>>>
>>>No sir. I pick up the cochroach, I take it outside and let it go.
>>
>> You mean you'd pick it off of the arm of your baby, after your baby
>> has been infected with e-coli. How very fatherly of you... now you
>> only have to worry about your baby dying from e-coli.
>
>If it was on the arm of my baby then killing it would spread it's "disease
>causing organisms" all over my baby sir.
RTFQ!!! I never said it was on the arm of your baby. I offered you
the CHOICE between killing it, or knowing that it WOULD BE on the arm
of your baby. You chose to let it go to the arm of your baby, and
THEN let it wiggle its six legs a bit before you could grasp it,
spreading even more germs to your own hand, and carefully depositing
it outside your window for the birds to feast upon. I wonder why you
don't have some _cockroach cages_, in which you can _save the
cockroach_ of the world from those nasty birds.
>You should think your debates through, sir. Did you have any children that
>lived sir?
Does your mother still prostitute herself for a living? Trust me...
you start bringing insults to my real family or real children, rather
than a hypothetical thought experiment and you will find yourself
being accused of screwing your sister. Remember that YOU started
it. Now apologize and let's move on.
>>>I would guess that you would stamp on it, splattering the poor little creature
>>>ans spreading it's blood which contains "more than 50 disease causing
>>>organisms" all over your baby. There is absolutely no reason to kill the
>>>cockroach sir.
>>
>> I'd stamp the shit out of it just for kicks. And then spread Clorox
>> all over the mess, and throw my shoe in an incinerator, before it
>> could touch my baby. Bacteria can't jump from the floor to my baby,
>> but it sure can go from any of the six legs of that cockroach to my
>> baby's body before I could "pick it up." But then your answer is that
>> you consider the life of the cockroach to be more valuable than the
>> possibility of transmitting a deadly disease to your baby. That's
>> exactly the answer I expected from you. You do know that the "poor
>> little cockroach" will be food for the birds shortly in any case,
>> while the possible fatal illness it might transmit to your child will
>> haunt you forever... or not... since you seem cold as ice when it
>> comes to worrying about humans, including your own baby, but
>> warm and fuzzy all over when it comes to worrying about cockroaches.
>>
>
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
>Then you are a murderer, sir, on two counts. One for killing the poor
>innocent cockroach
ROTFLMAO. Read the definition of murder, you ignorant child.
MURDER -- "The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially
with premeditated malice."
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/murder
Insects are NOT "human." Only someone on the edge of sanity could
argue that _cockroaches_ are HUMAN.
Oh, wait... you need a cite for that, because you're too ignorant to
figure it out for yourself. Here you go --
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/human
HUMAN -- "A member of the genus Homo and especially of the species H.
sapiens."
But of course, you've also said that -- "if i do not approve of a
definition I simply choose not to use it." Which makes it easy for
you to invent your own definitions, although it makes communicating
with other humans... IMPOSSIBLE! You sound like Michael
Jackson singing the role of Danny to his pet rat, "Ben," as his only
friend. BTW -- do you consider rats "superior" to cockroaches??
Heh heh heh.
> and two for infecting you baby by spreading the cockroach's
>disease carrying organisms all over your baby, sir.
Wrong... I killed the cockroach on the floor... my hypothetical baby
was NOT on the floor. You lifted the cockroach carefully from your
hypothetical baby's arm, thoroughly infecting your hypothetical
baby with up to 50 known diseases.
You should be ashamed of yourself. That cockroach NEVER touched
my baby.
>
>> Apparently if the choice came to you having to kill a cockroach to
>> prevent the execution of an innocent, you'd simply not _have the
>> heart_ to kill that cockroach, you call "the poor little creature."
>> Maybe I should have framed my thought experiment thusly, to
>> clearly put into focus how little you care about HUMANS, and how
>> much you care about COCKROACHES!
>
>You should work on thinking things through before trying thought experiments
>on others, sir.
You should RTFQ when you see thought experiments rather than
contriving your own set of circumstances and accusing the other
of "murder." How many "murders" have you committed in washing
your hands??
>> Since you find humans and cockroaches no different, if you had
>> to kill a human or kill a cockroach, and had no other choice, which
>> would you kill? After all, you can't make the same choice as
>> Buridan's donkey in this thought experiment. One or the other,
>> sport. Which one is it?
And we see Death Disco respond with *deathly silence*
For a guy that raves on and on about irrelevant things, and
insists he _talks to "something higher than ourselves"_ we
now find he is at a loss for words.
>> Regardless... I'm now getting a better focus on why you deny the
>> Holocaust. It's because to you six million Jews are worth less than
>> six million and one cockroaches, in your sick mind.
And we see Death Disco respond with *deathly silence*
For a guy that raves on and on about irrelevant things, and
insists he _talks to "something higher than ourselves"_ we
now find he is at a loss for words.
>>>>>>>> You're not happy merely assassinating the English language, you
>>>>>>>> want to crucify it before murdering it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Another one of your puerile response.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another one of your mindless drivel responses. Is "puerile" a
>>>>>> new word you've discovered?
>>>>>
>>>>>Puerile.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for answering the question with your agreement.
>>>
>>>If you cannot win your arguments without lying then you should not be
>>>allowed to take part.
>>
>> Pardon me... but I asked the question "Is 'puerile' a new word you've
>> discovered?" And you answered with that word proving it is impossible
>> that I was lying. The only reason you call me a liar is because you
>> have nothing else to use in defense of your ignorance. So you expect
>> to call me, what you just proved yourself to be.... shit-for-brains.
>>
>
>If you cannot win your arguments without lying or (inclusive) name calling
>then you should not be allowed to take part.
Who the hell are you to tell me what I can and can't do? This is just
more of your God-complex at work. Nonetheless... the only liar is
you... because I NEVER, EVER LIE!! You need to offer a cite of my
words that demonstrates I have lied. In fact, my never having lied
has brought me more grief in arguments than if I had lied. When I
win arguments the claims that I'm a liar come out of the woodwork...
like your pet "cockroaches."
Only in your mind. Wiki makes your puny knowledge measurable only on
a scale less than the Planck constant.
>> English criminal law applies to the law in the U.K.
>>
>
>Yes sir, but if you suggest that killing in self defense does not carry a
>prison term in the UK then you are wrong sir.
Killing in recognized self-defense does not carry any crime at
all. It's only when it has been determined that the definition
of self-defense has not been met that anyone can be accused
or convicted of any crime. If the recognized LEGAL conditions
of self-defense are MET... there has no crime committed.
You did not SUGGEST... but INSISTED that factually -- "You kill
someone in self defense in Britian (sic) then your conviction will
read that of masnlaughter (sic)." But you were wrong, and now you
are lying hope to wiggle out of that silly comment. If you
kill in legally recognized self-defense in Britian (sic) then you
have committed NO CRIME.
It is when you kill, and it not recognized as being in self-defense,
even if you plead that it was, that you will be accused and tried
in a court of law for "manslaughter," or even "murder" if it is
found that your claim of self-defense was rubbish and you killed
intentionally and with malice aforethought.
Then you can't assert what is not in evidence. You may "think" I am
guessing, but despite your belief in that God-complex of yours, you
cannot possibly know what I am thinking.
>Killing in self defense is manslaughter and is punishable by imprisonment,
>sir.
Heh... Saying it, is not proving it. Unless you abide by the diktat
of Hitler, who insisted that "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep
saying it, and eventually they will believe it"
While you may claim that "I have no obligation to prove my arguments
or to answer anything," that only means even you know that your
argument is not true.
Heh... Saying it, is not proving it. Unless you abide by the diktat
of Hitler, who insisted that "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep
saying it, and eventually they will believe it"
While you may claim that "I have no obligation to prove my arguments
or to answer anything," that only means even you know that your
argument is not true. A person can go to prison for "claiming to have
killed in self-defense," when the judiciary determines that the
killing did not meet the legal standards of self-defense. But a
person having met the legal standards of self-defense will never be
prosecuted for a crime. It is a fundamental principle of the law that
killing in "legally recognized self-defense" is NOT a crime.
>>>> Apparently you just use your imagination in your arguments, and
>>>> don't even bother with the truth. To you... like to Hitler... the
>>>> TRUTH is just an inconvenience if it conflicts with your agenda.
>>>>
>>>
>>>You have just describes your "Strategy" correctly sir. It's time you were
>>>honest with yourself.
>>
>> Once again your argument against my proof is that I must be using
>> YOUR strategy. When have you EVER "told the truth"?
>>
>
>You have provided no proof, sir. You have only provided an incorrectly
>referenced cite.
ROTFLMAO. That from the guy who insists he doesn't have to provide
proof of anything he says -- Such as his words --
"I don't need to prove it, dear fellow."
"I am not obliged to prove it to you."
"I am not obliged to prove anything to you, sir."
"I do not need to offer scientific proof"
"I am the exclusive author of my issue and only I have
the authority to make and declerations(sic) base (sic) upon it."
"I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything."
etc... etc... etc...
And finally -- Your claim that "It's the unknown, sir."
Which you argue is _an unknown but known to you_.
Since when are you a better source of information than the sources
I've provided? Let's be clear... you ASSERTED -- "Killing in self
defense is manslaughter and is punishable by imprisonment,
sir." PROVE IT! Show me one reference in which there is the
clear statement that "killing in self-defense is manslaughter."
Just one, sport. No legal system accepts that argument. Every
legal system in the western world recognizes the right of
self-defense.
However, I am certain that the following reference is proof positive
of my argument. It is the OFFICIAL U.K. government site of "The
Crown Prosecution Services." See --
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/self_defence/
Quote -- "it is important to ensure that all those acting reasonably
and in good faith to defend themselves, their family, their property
or in the prevention of crime or the apprehension of offenders are not
prosecuted for such action.."
End of story... you lose, sport. Unless you argue that this voice
of "something higher than ourselves," told you that "The Crown
Prosecution Service" is a bunch of crap.
Since when are you a better source of information than the sources
I've provided?
See above. Or see the OFFICIAL U.K. government site of "The
Crown Prosecution Services." See --
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/self_defence/
Quote -- "it is important to ensure that all those acting reasonably
and in good faith to defend themselves, their family, their property
or in the prevention of crime or the apprehension of offenders are not
prosecuted for such action.."
>>>> Apparently you just use your imagination in your arguments, and
>>>> don't even bother with the truth. To you... like to Hitler... the
>>>> TRUTH is just an inconvenience if it conflicts with your agenda.
>>>
>>>You have just describes your "Strategy" correctly sir. It's time you were
>>>honest with yourself.
>>
>> Stop repeating your lies. Repetition has no relation to accuracy.
>
>I repeat only your lies, sir.
TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
I wasn't the liar he's found me to be so I could show he is not
correct, but the bastard hit the nail right on the head. Guess my
only chance is to call HIM a liar."'
>>>> Why don't you try something new... Like telling the truth?
>>>
>>>Pot? Pot? this is kettle. Colour check please...
>>
>> TRANSLATION: "Pot? Pot? this is kettle. Colour check please...."
So you admit you're a liar.
>>>> <clip raving hysterical denial of the truth>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Homicide does not necessarily
>>>>>>>> involve deliberation. But it can. Deliberation under the law
>>>>>>>> is a very complex issue. There can be deliberation in homicide,
>>>>>>>> and manslaughter, and murder. While there be a lack of
>>>>>>>> deliberation in homicide and manslaughter. Murder must show
>>>>>>>> deliberation. Why is this so hard for you to grasp??? Is the
>>>>>>>> retention of facts really that difficult for you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You seem to spend a lot of time answering questions that nobody asked
>>>>>>>them
>>>>>>>reprimanding them for not knowing the answer and this is without the
>>>>>>>courtesy of bothering to find out if they do know the answer. Puerile
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heh... tough shit, kid. You're the ignoramus who insisted "If a
>>>>>> person deliberatly (sic) kills another then it is murder."
>>>>>
>>>>>Only on you, dear fellow. Such exposes your stupidity.
>>>>>
>>>> I'm not the one having offered the incredibly ignorance comment that
>>>> "If a person deliberatly (sic) kills another then it is murder." You
>>>> offered that incredibly ignorant comment, and don't have a leg to
>>>> stand on. I'll bet if YOU had to kill someone in self-defense that
>>>> you'd be the first one screaming of innocence.
>>>
>>>Nonsense, dear fellow.
>>
>> Face it, shit-for-brains... you're a wimp who only recently was
>> weaned.
>>
>
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
>Hardly a compelling argument, sir.
>
Better than any you've ever had.
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
>An unreferenced cite is inadmissible.
See --
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/prejudice
and --
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/static
Don't you feel a little silly arguing the English language, which you
hardly have a grasp of, with someone whose mother-tongue is
English? Would you prefer we write our comments in Dutch?
How's about Italian?
>>>> <clip more hysterical raving from the Bubble-boy who has been deprived
>>>> of any intellect whatsoever>
>>>>
>>>
>>>I have already accepted your surrender, sir.
>>
>> It's that psychotic God-complex of yours talking to you rather than my
>> "surrender," my young ignorant child. Saying things that make it
>> appear you believe you are God, that what you say must be taken as
>> fact rather than your silly opinion... comments of yours such as --
>
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
>You have a prejudice against the "young" (Sic), sir!
An unreferenced cite is inadmissable (sic).
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
>Yes, sir. But I corrected it in my follow up post, the one you are about to
>pretend you have not seen.
Yada, yada, yada. Do you know how much credit they give you
for knowing the answer AFTER you turn in your examination paper???
Jack-shit!!!
Try running back to the teacher and asking for your examination
paper back, because you thought of something while you were taking
a leak in the latrine.
I read your "excuse," but I haven't got around to responding to all of
your disturbed mind comments. I have other priorities, plus I take my
time... so I don't have to ask the teacher for my work to be returned
because I was in a hurry. Most nights I do even read AADP comments
until after midnight, when I'm sure my wife is sound asleep.
>>>> This is a simple problem in arithmetic if one understands the
>>>> question. And you should be able to compute it in your head, and
>>>> not need to even resort to paper and pen, or a computer. You
>>>> shouldn't even need "the back of an envelope."
>>>>
>>>
>>>It was very simple, sir. They teach it to 13 year old physics students. Is
>>>that where you learned it, sir?
>>
>> Yet, you fucked it up. And even fucked it up using pen and pencil,
>> and calculator, and references... none of which were needed to solve
>> the very easy problem.
>
>"Yet, you fucked it up"
>
>I did sir. Nevertheless, I corrected. It is fortunate I was not submitting
>it to anyone whose opinion matters. However, I am still waiting to see you
>answer the simple problem I set for you. What was the expression you used?
>"Overly complicated"
Hardly. Now that I've answered it when can I expect the answer to my
second question, or even my third question.
>>>>>> Nor do I have to consult wikipedia to know what mens rea and actus
>>>>>> reus mean. But obviously you had to look it up.
>>>>
>>>> <clip vacuous repeating of my comment>
>>>
>>>I've already accepted your surrender.
>>
>> It's that psychotic God-complex of yours talking to you rather than my
>> "surrender," my young ignorant child. Saying things that make it
>> appear you believe you are God, that what you say must be taken as
>> fact rather than your silly opinion... comments of yours such as --
>>
>> "I don't need to prove it, dear fellow."
>> "I am not obliged to prove it to you."
>> "I am not obliged to prove anything to you, sir."
>> "I do not need to offer scientific proof"
>> "I am the exclusive author of my issue and only I have
>> the authority to make and declerations(sic) base (sic) upon it."
>> "I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything."
>> etc... etc... etc...
>> And finally -- Your claim that "It's the unknown, sir."
>> Which you argue is _an unknown but known to you_
>>
>
>"But you're no longer worth my time"
>
>That was your surrender, sir.
>
You may think so... shit... you think you're God, or at least God
talks to you. But you should notice that I'm still here. Thus,
you're a bit premature in claiming victory.
While our purpose here should not be "victory," but progress... thus
my purpose is simply to provide a small measure of nurturing to you
that has obviously been neglected by those who should have nurtured
you. I've come not to expect more from you than what your nurturing
has failed to provide.
>>>>>What you are saying to me is that you did not do any research. This
>>>>>explains
>>>>>why you get so many words wrong. I suggest you buy a dictionary, sir.
>>>>>
>>>> <clip vacuous repeating of my comment>
>>>
>>>I've already accepted your surrender.
>>
>> It's that psychotic God-complex of yours talking to you rather than my
>> "surrender," my young ignorant child. Saying things that make it
>> appear you believe you are God, that what you say must be taken as
>> fact rather than your silly opinion... comments of yours such as --
>>
>> "I don't need to prove it, dear fellow."
>> "I am not obliged to prove it to you."
>> "I am not obliged to prove anything to you, sir."
>> "I do not need to offer scientific proof"
>> "I am the exclusive author of my issue and only I have
>> the authority to make and declerations(sic) base (sic) upon it."
>> "I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything."
>> etc... etc... etc...
>> And finally -- Your claim that "It's the unknown, sir."
>> Which you argue is _an unknown but known to you_
>>
>
>"But you're no longer worth my time"
>
>That was your surrender, sir.
You may think so... shit... you think you're God, or at least God
talks to you. But you should notice that I'm still here. Thus,
you're a bit premature in claiming victory.
While our purpose here should not be "victory," but progress... thus
my purpose is simply to provide a small measure of nurturing to you
that has obviously been neglected by those who should have nurtured
you. I've come not to expect more from you than what your nurturing
has failed to provide.
>>>>>At some point I did, yes. It's called research. It's how most people
>>>>>learn
>>>>>words which is considerably more than your method of guessing them, dear
>>>>>fellow.
>>>>
>>>> Then you should look up the word "prejudice" and see what a fool
>>>> you are, and how it describes your anti-Semitism perfectly.
>>>
>>>I did look it up sir. You claim that you do not need to. Curious
>>
>> I've looked it up... and guess what? Not one single mention of the
>> word "static" exists in ANY definition of the word "prejudice" in ANY
>> English dictionary that I can find. And I have looked at about a
>> dozen of them, both on-line dictionaries and those I have in my
>> private library. So what dictionary have you been using that has
>> the word "static" in the definition of the word "prejudice"???
>> I recall the definition you did provide that only proved me right
>> as to the word being subjective -- a "mental abstraction," of no
>> real physical existence. And nowhere in that definition you provided
>> does the word "static" appear. So put up or shut up.
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
>I never said it did, sir.
>
Yet you argued that "prejudice" is a "static word."
>> *deathly silence*
>
>You are anything but silent, sir.
Can't stand the heat when I put your feet to the fire, can you?
Is that all you have? Don't you feel stupid not having of consequence
to say? You should you know... you should feel VERY stupid!!
I never, ever lie. Claiming I do is simply your own smear tactics to
discredit my exposing your own lies and deceit. It's a popular
tactic used by those who are either exposed for being a liar or want
to shift the argument (which is recognized as lost) to one of ad
hominem, about presumed, but unexplained or lacking a cite to past
comments. Simply call the person who exposes you -- a liar. And
then "claim victory" as if that proves he is a liar. As to name
calling... I have seldom found a more "name-calling-worthy" poster
than you, sport.
>>".</sarcasm>"
>
>Of course it was, sir. I doubt even you can be that stupid.
Well... wait a minute... you argued that humans are not "superior" to
what you referred to as the "poor little creature" called the
cockroach. So given that premise which is a true premise from your
own words... you argue that six million and one cockroaches are worth
more to you than six million innocent Jews. It's a fair question
since you insisted that a cockroach is no less than a human being.
But I need to hear it from you... so given your original premise...
another thought experiment... If you had to kill a cockroach to
save a murderer from execution... would you kill that cockroach??
Remember... you don't want to be called a "murderer" (sic)... do you??
No proof offered. Your claim fails. Plus "an unreferenced is
inadmissable (sic)." Whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean.
>>>> In addition my home library is quite extensive -- See-
>>>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/library.mov
>>>> And I am a voracious reader.
>>>>
>>>
>>>> That however, is only a small part of my total library, since it does
>>>> not include technical works which I maintain in my computer room.
>>>> Which can be seen here --
>>>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Library.JPG
>>>
>>>It is not wise to post personal information on a public forum to someone
>>>your are having an aggressive debate with, sir.
>>
>> Should I fear you??? I don't see how pictures of my home library
>> represent a threat to my safety, given I have already provided my
>> real name (which was detected by a cyber-stalker who could not
>> stand being intellectually defeated). That would represent a possible
>> threat, since another cyber-stalker began posting my address and
>> phone number and even called my home phone in a threatening
>> manner in speaking to my wife, but hung up before I could come
>> to the phone. See --
>> http://tinyurl.com/mev6pd
>
>" Should I fear you??? "
>
>No sir. I offer no threat to your safety but I cannot speak for others.
So it's your friends I have to worry about. Heh... recall the words
of de Cervantes -- "Tell me thy company, and I'll tell thee what thou
art."
>>>However, you are proof that reading does not make a person "smart"
>>
>> Spoken like a boy who hasn't read a book in the past month.
>
>You're guessing, sir.
No proof offered. Your claim fails. Plus "an unreferenced is
inadmissable (sic)" Whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean.
Wrong... the cite is completely accurate...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jul/27/usa.ewenmacaskill
Subject -- "Compensation for men FBI let be framed."
However, I know I'm dealing with someone not totally competent
in this thing they call the "Internet," so here's another cite --
http://wbztv.com/local/Peter.Limone.Joe.2.588773.html
and another --
http://www.justicedenied.org/issue/issue_27/fbi's_legacy_of_shame.html
and another --
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,290914,00.html
and another --
http://www.kval.com/news/national/8731057.html
Now if you cannot even get one out these five URLs, then you are
certifiable.
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jul/27/usa.ewenmacaskill
>> Subject -- "Compensation for men FBI let be framed."
>
>Have you never been taught the correct procedure for referencing cites, sir?
Have you ever been able to follow a URL link providing a cite??
>>>>>>>" If we had a perfect justice
>>>>>>>> system we would not convict the innocent, and we would never
>>>>>>>> permit an innocent to die in prison.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You do not have a perfect justice system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's because there is no such thing as "a perfect justice system."
>>>>>
>>>>>This is an strong argument fo the abolishment of the death penalty.
>>>>
>>>> Total mindless drivel. If you're looking for a "perfect criminal
>>>> justice system," and there is no such thing, then YOU are arguing for
>>>> the abolition of the "criminal justice system." And only a fool would
>>>> argue that.
>>>>
>>>
>>>No, sir. I am arguing the abolition of the death penalty.
>>
>> So you don't care if innocent men die in prison, you just don't want
>> guilty murderers to be executed. Now that we have determined that...
>> it is fair to say that your reasons are based not upon innocent men
>> dying in prison, but upon your Bible-thumping belief that the lives
>> of murderers are worth more than the lives of the innocents who do
>> die in prison.
>>
>
>"So you don't care if innocent men die in prison"
>
>Yes I do, sir. that's why I oppose the death penalty.
No proof offered. You don't oppose an innocent man dying in prison,
as Henry Tameleo and Louis Greco did, while not sentenced to the death
penalty. How strange... you oppose executing murderers, but you
support innocents dying in prison. What a preposterous, ridiculous,
ludicrous, farcical, laughable, idiotic, stupid, foolish, silly,
inane, imbecilic, insane, hare-brained; unreasonable, irrational,
illogical, nonsensical, pointless, and senseless agenda you have.
No proof offered your claim fails. Plus "an unreferenced is
inadmissable (sic)" Whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean.
Do you know that you qualify as being risibly stupid?
I'll bet I'm not the first one to tell you that.
>>>If you cannot win your arguments without lying then you should not be
>>>allowed to take part.
>>
>> I'm only examining the FACT that you do not oppose innocent men
>> dying in prison, because you do not oppose a criminal justice system
>> in which that occurs, while you do oppose executing guilty murderers.
>> Calling me a liar doesn't change the fact that there is no way you
>> can dispute what I have said. I pointed out that two innocents have
>> been PROVEN to have died in prison. You insist it doesn't bother
>> you to the point that you would oppose a criminal justice system
>> in which that can possibly happen (which is EVERY criminal justice
>> system). While you do oppose a guilty murderer dying in prison
>> through legal execution. You once said "murder is murder."
>> Well, let me also say that "dead is dead." The only difference
>> between an innocent dying in prison, and a guilty murderer being
>> executed, is that the former WAS INNOCENT, and the latter
>> WAS GUILTY OF MURDER. You do not oppose the former
>> happening, but jump up and down like a puppet on a string
>> at the thought of the latter happening.
>>
>
>"I'm only examining the FACT"
>
>Correction, sir. That should say "I'm only examining my GUESS".
Wrong. Those are the FACTS. You support a criminal justice
system. It is mathematically impossible to create a criminal justice
system which does not have the possibility of an innocent dying
in prison. End of story.
>
>>>>>>> and a perfect justice system would not include the death
>>>>>>>penalty.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once again arguing from a false premise... there is no such thing
>>>>>> as "a perfect justice system." Innocents are convicted probably
>>>>>> every day in some court somewhere in the U.S. Shall we let
>>>>>> all the criminals remain free because of the chance of an innocent
>>>>>> dying in prison? Or do you argue abolish the U.S. criminal
>>>>>> justice system and let the criminals continue on their way.
>>>>>
>>>>>My premise is quite correct. If there were a perfect justice system it
>>>>>would not have a death penalty.
>>>>
>>>> Proven to be a lie. A TOTAL LIE. I've already showed you an
>>>> example of an imperfect justice system even if there were no death
>>>> penalty. Innocents, NOT sentenced to the death penalty, die in prison
>>>> every day. Apparently you are willing to let them die, and call it
>>>> "perfect."
>>>>
>>>
>> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>>>
>>>Becoming angry will not aid your argument, sir.
>>>
>> It can't hurt when I see a fool insisting he doesn't care about
>> innocents who die in prison, that his only concern is saving the
>> lives of guilty murderer who might go on to murder again and
>> again.
>
>" It can't hurt when I see a fool insisting he doesn't care about
>> innocents who die in prison"
>
>I made no such claim, sir.
When you support a criminal justice system it is always with the
caveat that in your support for that criminal justice system must
also be your support for the possibility of an innocent dying in
prison. I am not so stupid that I do not realize that my support
for a criminal justice system in the U.S., recognizing that as
all criminal justice system it is imperfect, implies my support
for the possible death of an innocent in prison. It's called "the
lesser of two evils." With the other evil being support for the
end of the criminal justice system, which would then create
a vacuum in which no innocent could die in prison, nor could
any guilty criminal even go to prison.
>>>>> Any imperfect justice system which includes all off
>>>>>them should not inclde a death penalty.
>>>>
>>>> What the fuck are you raving about? Exactly what language are you
>>>> trying to communicate in, sport?
>>>
>>>English, sir.
>>
>> And not doing a very good job of it, my boy. Although if your
>> intention was to assassinate it.. you did a fine job, my boy. Two
>> spelling errors in one and a half lines of text, and the use of the
>> word "them" without the slightest suggestion of who you mean
>> by "them."
>
<clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
>You did not recognise it, sir. You should take lessons in English;
>especially one in what words mean.
ROTFLMAO... you mean like your claim that "prejudice" is a "static"
word??? In any case do you deny that you had two spelling errors,
and a totally incomprehensible use of "them" in your short sentence?
What is "them" supposed to relate to? Any imperfect Justice System
is EVERY Justice System. Humans are incapable of being _perfect_.
It is a given that there is a mathematical possibility of both
convicting an innocent and that innocent dying in prison. Those
are what we call "mathematical facts." "All of" WHAT??? My boy.
My point is that obviously, if you support a criminal justice
system, with or without the death penalty. you cannot logically oppose
the death penalty on _moral grounds_, arguing the possibility of
executing an innocent is the _moral reason_ you oppose the death
penalty. Since it is EXPLICIT in supporting a criminal justice system
that you do not oppose the possibility of an innocent dying in prison.
You have to find another reason (and trust me... there are many)
to oppose the death penalty. If I were to oppose the death penalty
I could do a better job at it than nine out of ten abolitionists
posting to AADP. And I would not use the silly argument that
there is the possibility of executing an innocent, since it is
fundamental in accepting the use of a criminal justice system
to control predators, that we also accept the possibility of
convicting an innocent and that innocent dying in prison. I
have the proof... if you could ever find a way to examine the
cites I have provided.
TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
I wasn't what he found me to be so I could show he is not correct,
but the bastard hit the nail right on the head."'
And I thank my luck stars that I am not you, my son. I would not
trade all the years that I would live longer to be you. I've seen
things that you will never see. You'll see things that I will never
see. And I can only hope that you gain some maturity and wisdom
as you grow older... because as you are... the human race suffers.
"All are punish'd."
My words were, "No sir " But you're no longer worth my time", is clearly in
respect to a person, not a partucular post, sir."
Really sir; if you cannot win an argument without lying then you should not
be allowed to play.
>
>>> Bet you're disappointed to see me wipe out every one of your
>>> irrational arguments again. But let me be absolutely clear...
>>> if I do stop replying to your comments that are obviously
>>> a product of a disturbed and degenerate mind, it will only be
>>> because I've grown tired of pounding each and every one of your
>>> shriveled-up arguments into dust.
>>>
>>
>>Declaring yourself the winner does not make you the winner, dear sir.
>>Court
>>sessions would be a lot shorter had it been the case.
>
> Hey, you've been declaring yourself the winner, stating that you've
> already "accepted <my> flag of surrender." How did you figure that
> out other than declaring yourself the winner?
I have not declared myself the winner, dear sir. I was asserting an obvious
truth.
Are you a habitual gambler sir?
I have already accepted your flag of surrender, sir.
>>
>>An unreferenced cite is inadmissible.
>
> All you need to do is look at your past comments, to see your puerile
> use of the word "puerile" over and over as if it is your prayer
> mantra, that you must repeat over and over to gain entrance to
> that "holy spot" you insist belongs to you sitting next to
> "something higher than ourselves." What does that joker look
> like if he has objective existence rather than the subjective
> existence resulting from a mental aberration you suffer from?
> Perhaps you have a picture of that joker that you can share with
> us. Or is it a picture on the cover of that Bible you keep
> thumping?
You are struggling to interpret my comments, sir. Perhaps you should play
with "special" people, like you.
"Stop lying"
I don't have to lie, sir. Lying is your strategy.
>
Do you see what you did wrong there, sir? You confused "fact" with "guess".
>
>> It is
>>evident that you escrimate against "the young".
>
> If there were a word in the English language that defined "escrimate"
> perhaps you might be right. But given that there is no such word
> your comment is just mindless drivel... apparently trying to accuse
> me of something that doesn't exist in the English language.
>
"escrimate" is a typographical error, sir.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/typographical+error
> We, my wife and I, have had children... they were nurtured to respect
> their elders, and to learn from their wisdom. They have now had
> children... and because our children were nurtured to respect their
> elders, their children are being nurtured to respect their elders.
> It's a shame that you lack such nurturing.
"We, my wife and I, have had children"
Did any of them live, sir or did they die as a result of infection caused by
you covering them in cockroach blood?
" they were nurtured to respect their elders, and to learn from their
wisdom"
How disappointed they must have been to discover from being your children
that age does not always carry wisdom. Such would be a harsh lesson for
them. I grieve for them, sir. At least now, they have observed that wisdom
comes with open eyes and an open mind, and not a natural process of age.
>
>>However I am most definately
>>younger than 78 but I am older than your mental age, dear fellow.
>
> No proof offered. Your claim fails. An argument of presumed fact but
> lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
An unreferenced cite is inadmissible.
>
Your logic does not follow normal rational reasoning, sir.
"BTW -- You "remember" arithmetic"
Yes, sir.
>
>>> So if you can't remember a THING we call the Holocaust you are
>>> certainly denying that there was a Holocaust. Yet you do "remember"
>>> a thing called the Crusades. Since you continue to have the
>>> information that there were Crusades in your mind. How else
>>> could you know of it, if it was not present in your memory?
>>>
>>> and --
>>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
I have already accepted your flag of surrender, sir.
>>
>>I made no such claim, sir.
>>
> Of course you did. Your exact words -- "You cannot forget or remember
> the extermination of 6 million jews (sic) unless you remember them."
> And then your comment about "remember." Your words -- "You do not
> remember what is not in your memory and it is not in your memory
> if you did not experience or witness it first hand."
"Of course you did."
I did not, sir.
>
> Are you now denying those were your words?
No, sir.
You claimed that you could, "hear" me, sir.
Any fear that you experience is your own, sir. If you were to be able to
feel my emotions sir, you would feel my amusement.
I am not obliged to prove anything to you, dear fellow.
> If you cannot or will not post your own creds, to show that you have
> been educated, then it is obvious that you offer ONLY *deathly
> silence*.
>
No, sir. The "deathly silence" came from your post so it is your response
despite that you have been anything but silent, sir
>>>> If you cannot win your arguments without lying or name calling then you
>>>> should
>>>>not be allowed to take part.
>>>
>>> I never, ever lie. Claiming I do is simply your own smear tactics to
>>> discredit my exposing your own lies and deceit. It's a popular
>>> tactic used by those who are either exposed for being a liar or want
>>> to shift the argument (which is recognized as lost) to one of ad
>>> hominem, about presumed, but unexplained or lacking a cite to past
>>> comments. Simply call the person who exposes you -- a liar. And
>>> then *plonk* him as if that proves he is a liar. As to name
>>> calling... I have seldom found a more "name-calling-worthy" poster
>>> than you, sport.
>>>
>>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>>
>>Another lie, sir.
>
> Heh... when caught in a lie, call the other a liar hoping to ignore
> having been caught in a lie.
No, sir. The lies are definately yours.
>
>>> But you have no cite of any lie from me, while I have the evidence of
>>> your claims that you _talk to_ "something higher than ourselves," and
>>> "it" talks back to you. Plus all the times I have caught you in a lie
>>> and your answer was --
>>>
>>
>>Your cite your own lies, sir.
>
> Heh... when caught in a lie, call the other a liar hoping to ignore
> having been caught in a lie. Clearly, my dear fellow, despite your
> God-complex raving... you DO need to prove your allegations.
> To do that... you need to juxtapose two different comments from
> me which without a doubt represent a lie in one or the other of
> them. Where you have lied, is quite easy to show. Each time
> you claim that you "don't need to prove it," you show a part of
> you that is psychotically driven to believe he is God. Humans,
> my boy... need to prove EVERYTHING that they state is a FACT.
> Claiming you "don't need to prove it," is claiming you are God.
> And that makes you a liar.
No, sir. The lies are definately yours.
>
> While opinions are like ass holes... everyone has one... yet they have
> no relevance in respect to proving anything, unless they are
> grounded in FACT... EVIDENCE... PROOF. They only prove
> you have an opinion to offer that is not grounded in fact, or by
> evidence. Opinions which you hope to slip by as FACT... which again
> makes you a liar.
"While opinions are like ass holes... everyone has one"
They do sir? So you have only the one opinion. Curious
>
>>> "I don't need to prove it, dear fellow."
>>> "I am not obliged to prove it to you."
>>> "I am not obliged to prove anything to you, sir."
>>> "I do not need to offer scientific proof"
>>> "I am the exclusive author of my issue and only I have
>>> the authority to make and declerations(sic) base (sic) upon it."
>>> "I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything."
>>> etc... etc... etc...
>>> And finally -- Your claim that "It's the unknown, sir."
>>> Which you argue is _an unknown but known to you_.
>>> All above are obvious attempts to cover you your lies.
>>
>>You already said that sir. Really, sir; do you think that repeating your
>>lies adds credibility to them? It really does not work that way, sir.
>
> You mean you're DENYING that all of those words are YOURS? Now
> you've again proved yourself to be a liar. But I need to see it
> clearly. Do you deny that all or any of the above comments included
> in quotation marks came from you????
>
"You mean you're DENYING that all of those words are YOURS?"
No, sir.
"ROTFLMAO"
Curious.
"That's your EXCUSE??? "
There is nothing for me to excuse, sir.
> Pay attention: Instead, you use that term when you see someone
> criticize ANOTHER for some reason, and that someone has used that same
> criticism in the same way in HIS COMMENTS. For example... if your
> friend mxsmanic criticized another member of this group for using a
> particular method and mxsmanic was also known for using that same
> particular method, you, as a third party, would jump in and respond to
> mxsmanic with "pot.... kettle...black." But in using it as a second
> party, directed at me, your implication is that I am using the same
> method as YOU... which simply shows that you believe you are the
> original "pot... "
>
" Pay attention"
Oh I do sir. I would hate to miss any of your detritus, sir.
> Oh, crap... this is much too complicated for your tiny mind to absorb
> in one lesson.
>
>>>>"What is the theoretical electromagnetic resonant frequency in Hz of a
>>>>20
>>>>cm quarter-wave-length transmission line"
>>>
>>> That's what I said. However that is not the full problem as I
>>> presented it. Try to be precise and read my words, you moron.
>>> Repeating --
>>>
>>> " What is the theoretical electromagnetic resonant frequency in Hz of
>>> a 20 cm quarter-wave-length transmission line, presuming the velocity
>>> of light is exactly 300,000,000 meters/per second, and no other
>>> factors affect this resonant frequency?"
>>
>>The speed of light is 299,792,458 meters per second, not 300,000,000
>>meters/per second, sir. Some people round it to that and when determining
>>f
>>in megacycles set C to 300 but they lose accuracy.
>
> Heh... in other words... you fucked it up. Thanks for that.
No sir. You were the one whom "fucked up" lightspeed, sir.
>
>>The formula for resonanct is f=c/lamda in Cs dear sir of if you are
>>contructiing a coaxial antenna (unlikely on the frequency you have chosen)
>>then the formula is f=(c/lamda)*v
>
> Yada... yada... yada... you're only trying to bury your ignorance in
> a flood of irrelevant commentary.
>
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-knee-jerk-reaction.htm
>>Where c is the speed of light, lamda is wavelength, and v is velocity
>>factor.
>
> Yada... yada... yada... you're only trying to bury your ignorance in
> a flood of irrelevant commentary.
>
No, sir. I have just explained the formula to you. You are ignorant of it.
How curious.
I have already accepted your flag of surrender, sir.
>>Basic antenna principles, sir. You need to catch up on your research
>
> I emphasized that it was simple, and needed no calculator, reference,
> or even pen and paper. Apparently you fell asleep in class when I
> explained that to the class.
>
"I emphasized that it was simple"
So why is it that you cannot follow it when I explained it to you?
" Yada... yada... yada... you're only trying to bury your ignorance in a
flood of irrelevant commentary.
"
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>>
>>Yes sir. The answer was wrong.
>
> And there it is, folks. I rest my case.
Yes, sir. Noticing your own mistakes is a virtue of wisdom and gives rise to
learning from them. These are qualities you are proven to lack.
>
>>It occurred to me a few minutes after I
>>posted and while making tea that I calculated the quarter waves backwards
>>and that i didn't actually need to calculate them at all as all you asked
>>for was the "resonant frequency"(Sic) of the antenna. but had as you
>>could see from my follow up post, I corrected it and came up with the
>>right
>>answer. Of course I expect you to protest most strongly that you did not
>>see
>>my follow up post. Now sir, we shall see how you handled my particular
>>problem.
>
> Yada, yada, yada. Do you know how much credit they give you
> for knowing the answer AFTER you turn in your examination paper???
> Jack-shit!!!
There was no examination paper, dear sir. As I sad previously, the answer
was not seen by anyone whose opinions matter. However, it is obvious you did
not read the corrected version or had you know what it is you are talking
about you would have observed that I once again neglected to take into
account the inverse relationship between frequency and wavelength on the
quarter waves. My antenna theory is rusty. I have built one in a while. What
about you, sir? When did you last build one?
"Rubbish. Hz is the ONLY acceptable term as the SI unit of frequency See -"
You're Wrong, sir. You don't have the authority to tell anyone else what
notation to use.
> I don't have the slightest idea where you came up with Cs, since doing
> a Google search of Cs, comes up with everything like "Credit Suisse
> Group," and other organizations using that acronym. When I do
> a Google search on - Cs "cycles per second" - I still find nothing.
> There are a few that use C/S ( C slash S)... but no organization or
> academy uses that or Cs, that I know of. In any case, the U.K. and
> the Netherlands accept the official name of Hz, as "cycles per
> second."
>
You should read your books sir. You should find such an expression there.
Perhaps your books are exclusively for show.
You haven't answered the problem I gave you, yet.
>
> As to your problem, I have hardly ever involved myself with db
> loss or gain, although the formulas in log are readily available
> to those interested in such things. I'm certainly aware of how
> to compute capacitive reactance which is trivial, and in your
> argument --
>
> R = 3.183 x 10^4 Ohms = 31.83 K Ohms
>
> c = 10^-9 Farads
>
> f = 500 Hz
>
> thus -
>
> Xc = 1/(2 x [pi] x f x c) = 1/(2 x 2.14 x 500 x 10^-9 Ohms)
Xc=1/w(omega)c sir but it equates to the same thing.
>
> thus reducing --
>
> Xc= 3.183 x 10^5 ohms = 318.3 K Ohms
>
318.310K to be more accurate, sir but you are doing very well
> and --
>
> cutoff frequency = 1/(2 x [pi] x R x c) = 1/(2 x 2.14 x 3.183 x 10^4
> x 10^-9) Hz
>
> thus reducing --
>
> cutoff frequency = 5 x 10^3 Hz = 5 KHz
>
> at cutoff frequency Xc = R = 3.183 x10^4 ohms = 31.83 K Ohms
>
> cutoff frequency = -3 db
The question did not ask for the cutoff frequency or the db loss at cut of
frequency. it Asked for the db loss and phase angled at 500 Cs, sir.
>
> At the cutoff frequency the phase angle is 45 degrees
>
> I dealt in digital data... data loss and db loss are two different
> things. In transmitting digital data the db line loss is irrelevant
> except for a highly degraded line loss or a total line loss. Digital
> data has various redundancies such as parity checks and hamming
> code in both horizontal, vertical and in total bit count per message.
> Plus military traffic is always routed through secure communication
> centers processing both unclassified and the highest classification
> military traffic uses. These communication centers use a "red" -
> "black" concept, where all traffic comes in as "black" fully
> encrypted, and passes through decryption machine within this
> secure, and highly shielded from electronic leakage. communication
> center. After decryption the traffic is called "red," and highly
> classified messages are now in the clear, but remain in the
> communications center while they are in the "red." The communication
> center then processes, and saves the traffic in what are called
> ledgers, and journals on high density media, then routes the
> traffic to the destination (s), and sends it back to the on-site
> crypto center for encryption again before exiting the communication
> center as "black" traffic, encrypted again to the final destination.
>
> Your lesson for the day.
That you should read the question, sir.
"Given you have a low pass filter with a resistor of 31830 ohms, and a
capacitor of 1 Nano Farad. at frequency of 500 Cs what is the DB loss and
the phase angle? You will have to work out the reactance first, sir."
You have had your first attempt sir and you did not answer the question.In
your own words. " Do you know how much credit they give you for knowing the
answer AFTER you turn in your examination paper??? Jack-shit!!! "
>
Nonsense, sir. Ohms law applies electricity, whether it is DC or AC is
irrelevent. As AC is contantly in flux then that has to be taken into
account so impedence and phase angle are calculated.
>
> Quoting -- "When reactive elements such as capacitors, inductors, or
> transmission lines are involved in a circuit to which AC or
> time-varying voltage or current is applied, the relationship between
> voltage and current becomes the solution to a differential equation,
> so Ohm's law (as defined above) does not directly apply since that
> form contains only resistances having value R, not complex impedances
> which may contain capacitance ("C") or inductance ("L")."
>
>
>>> Kirchoff's law is applicable with AC circuits.
>>
>>Of course it does, sir. It also applies to DC circuits,
>
> Of course it does... but just because A implies B + C, does not mean D
> implies B + C. Kirchoff's Law provides solutions using differential
> equations. Ohm's Law does not. Kirchoff's Law defines the electric
> potential as a line integral. Thus introducing Integration in the
> calculus.
>
"Of course it does... "
Then we agree on something, sir.
Very longwinded, sir. The correct formula is radians = degrees*pi/180
Of course you would have spotted that a complete circle is 2pi.
>
>>> Your trouble is that you confuse your subjective views with objective
>>> facts. No matter how hard you try... they are not the same. There
>>> is no possibility whatsoever of "something higher than ourselves,"
>>> actually being an "object" that we can examine and agree upon what
>>> that object is. Just as there is no possibility whatsoever of
>>> "prejudice" actually being an "object" that we can examine and agree
>>> upon what that object is.
>>>
>>
>>Your feeble attempt to avoide the problem posed has been noted, sir.
>>
> Now that I've made my "feeble attempt"... just try to answer mine
> using a feeble attempt. We're not examining my expertise in low-pass
> filters, and db. I've been retired longer than you've been living.
> We're examining YOUR expertise, since you're the one blowing your horn
> about --
>
"Now that I've made my "feeble attempt"... "
It was feeble sir. You got as far as working out the capacitive reactance.
then you went off at a tangent.
> "I'll bet you don't know what bayes theorum, linear regression mean,
> and I suspect you do not know the magic number in the plume encryption
> algorythm."
>
That's Bayes' theorum, sir. Please give the fellow the respect he deserves.
"Bayes' theorum" calculated probabiliters and thier counter effects and
linear regression calculates the line of best fit. Of course you know
standard deviation and Binomial distribution.
> Not even capable of spelling algorithm correctly. Not even capable
> of spelling "theorem," correctly. The two prime arguments in your
> entire sentence. If you look below you will see your comment has
> seven ">" in front of it, signifying that you began this thumping your
> chest, yet your knuckles still drag on the ground when you walk.
> While it's obscene that you dare to mention Bayes' Theorem,
> considering how seldom you show the slightest knowledge of
> what inductive logic even is.
>
> Now either answer my question, since you never did answer my first
> question correctly, having turned in your answer before "reading the
> fucking question." If you can't then shut the fuck about your
> superiority and address your holocaust denial, your racism, your
> belief that you hear voices from "something higher than ourselves,"
> and your belief that six million and one cockroaches are "superior"
> to six million innocent Jews.
>
"you never did answer my first question correctly"
Yes I did, sir.
> If that question was too complicated for you I'll give you an easier
> one. Since you seem to claim familiarity with differential
> equations... solve this one. Understand that this is the EASIEST
> of all differential equation to solve, and is used over and over in
> solving motion equations related to gravitation -- This one should
> be a snap for you --
>
> Solve the differential equation d�x/dt� = -g
>
> With initial conditions x(0) = x(sub o) and v(0) = v(sub o)
Given you have a closed cylinder with a volume of 1050 cm^3 use integration
and tranposition to get the maxumum surface area from the minimum material
used.
Given a three phase unbalanced supply, VL=400V, Z1=30,Z2=50 and Z3=40 ohm,
calculate phase voltage, Each line current and the power dissapated across
each line, sir.
>
> We'll work our way down until we find your level of knowledge.
>
> However, I have yet to see a single word from you that makes me
> believe you have received a proper education in the arts, and
> humanities. I have no idea of your natural given intelligence but it
> is obvious to me that your nurturing has been greatly injured. I have
> seldom met anyone with a mind that is so closed as yours is. The test
> of a man's intellect is that he finds pleasure in the exercise of his
> mind. Yours hasn't even been out for a walk in a very long time.
> Apparently it is too small and narrow-minded to be let out by itself.
>
"We'll work our way down until we find your level of knowledge"
We have already found yours, sir.
>>>>>>>>Perhaps the use of caps will help you around your obvious learning
>>>>>>>>difficulty.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can't prove your silly argument. How long has it been since
>>>>>>> you were weaned? Answer the question, without using a question.
>>>>>>> Bet you can't do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> So you can't answer the question. Why did I already know that if
>>>>> I'm not smart?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You're guessing again, sir.
>>>>Curios. You announce that we are done but you reply to one of my posts
>>>>afterwards. This is strange.
>>>
>>> You're repeating yourself, shit-for-brains. Yet you're still avoiding
>>> the question.
>>>
>>
>>http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrite
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
>>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorance
>
> Remember... when you point your finger at me, in "calling the kettle
> black," there are three fingers on that same hand pointing right back
> at you, sport.
>
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrite
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
No, sir. You have no basis to back up your assertions, so they can only be
guesses.
>>>>>>>>It's your
>>>>>>>>arrogance that pushes to to actually rewrite the word.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're the one having rewritten the word to suit your own childish
>>>>>>> ego, while having absolutely no proof of your argument. The
>>>>>>> only use of "static" in describing any word is "electrical or
>>>>>>> acoustic
>>>>>>> activity that can disturb communication." And you try that
>>>>>>> with just about every word you offer. Words either convey the
>>>>>>> meaning of an "object," thus "objective,' or they convey the
>>>>>>> meaning of a "mental abstraction," thus "subjective."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nonsense. I use "Static" in a correct context.
>>>>>
>>>>> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>>>>
>>>>An unreferenced cite is inadmissible.
>>>
>>> Quite true... your lack of a referenced cite showing "static" to refer
>>> to "prejudice" makes your argument inadmissible.
>>
>>It was not a cite, sir, so no reference is required.
>
> "Your unreferenced site (sic) is inadmissable (sic)"
The word is "cite", sir.
>
>>>>> Saying it, is not proving it. Unless you abide by the diktat of
>>>>> Hitler, who insisted that "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep
>>>>> saying it, and eventually they will believe it"
>>>>
>>>>I have no obligation to prove my arguments.
>>>
>>> Using that psychotic God-complex of yours does not mean you have no
>>> obligation to prove your arguments, shit-for-brains. Only "something
>>> higher than ourselves" does not have to prove "its" arguments. But
>>> I guess I should pity you because you have that psychotic
>>> Bible-thumper belief that "something higher than ourselves" talks to
>>> you directly.... Hallelujah, brother.
>>
>>I am not religious sir.
>
> No, you just hear voices from "something higher than ourselves" who
> whispered in your ear that there is this "right to life for all
> cockroaches and insects and bacteria and viruses... oh, yeah... and
> humans" ROTFLMAO.
No I don't sir. Wait a can hear your voice now. It's a high pitched
meaningless whine.
>
>>>>>>>>> In fact, I do not redefine definitions. I use them as weapons to
>>>>>>>>> crush idiots like you, who have little knowledge of the English
>>>>>>>>> language, and thus distort words in a biased effort to twist to
>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>> own sick agenda.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You repeatidly and deliberately misuse dictionary definition
>>>>>>>>regardless
>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>that you have cobnsulted a dictionary but you change them anyway.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I put the definitions up... and you simply ignore them as if they do
>>>>>>> not exist. How can I possibly deal with someone who speaks
>>>>>>> gibberish,
>>>>>>> and insists the English language is made as he desires to make it,
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> as it actually exists?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You change them, sir.
>>>>>
>>>>> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>>>>
>>>>An unreferenced cite is inadmissible.
>>>
>>> Quite right... so why do you keep claiming cites without references,
>>> shit-for-brains?
>>
>>I don't, sir.
>
> You did so just above, shit-for-brains.
No I didn't, sir.
>
"Yes, I do."
No you don't, sir.
> Obviously you've just piled lie upon lie upon lie. And now even deny
> you wrote it... but I have the evidence. See --
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/fc1729e6f9101be5
> Here it is, sport... your words enshrined forever in Google. Proof
> that you stated -- "We do not have the to (sic) say who has the right
> to life. That honour is strictly owned by something higher than
> ourselves." And when I asked how you came about this information
> in my words -- "Who would that be?" You responded in one word -
> "Unknown." See --
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/92a6b831782818bf
>
Really sir; if you cannot win an argument without lying then you should not
be allowed to play.
> If it's "unknown," sport... how do you KNOW it? As I said... that
> God-complex of yours will do you in every time. Trust me... you
> don't hear voices from "something higher than ourselves," and
> you don't hear "its" angels talking to you either. Thus, you have no
> evidence of any "right to life for cockroaches." It's that BIBLE-
> THUMPING!!! Now those are YOUR words, sport. They are
> in Google, proven to have come from you.... not "something
> higher than ourselves," although you may think you are.
>
" If it's "unknown," sport... how do you KNOW it?"
I do not, sir. If I did then it wouldn't be unknown therefore it would be
known but it's unknown. Am I going too fast for you, sir?
That is irrelevant, sir. You only know American English (sic), sir.
> This group was created by a poster now long gone named
> "Etan Ben-Ami" in 1993. He was a member of the "National
> Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty," and as far as I know
> was not European, since that coalition is based in Washington,
> D.C. There is no recognized body that has ruled that U.K.
> English is the only language permitted in AADP. Nonetheless,
> I don't correct you when you use the spelling of "honour," while in
> the U.S. it is spelled "honor." If you insist we use YOUR type of
> spelling that is xenophobia. I am open minded and you can
> use either U.K. English or U.S. English. I just wish you'd use
> it CORRECTLY!
>
I do, sir. You are the fellow who repeatedly attempts to redefine words,
sir.
> However, let's again be frank... it would not matter if I did oppose
> the U.S. Death Penalty, since my argument with you is about your
> Holocaust denial, your racist comments and your underlying
> stupidity (which I hope is not genetic but rather a product of
> cruel and unusual nurturing).
"my argument with you is about your Holocaust denial, "
I have made no such denial, sir.
"your racist comments "
I have made no racist comments, sir.
No, sir. It hasn't worked and neither has the death penalty.
>>>>>>"Xenophobia is the uncontrollable fear of foreigners.[1] It comes from
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>Greek words ????? (xenos), meaning "stranger," "foreigner" and ?????
>>>>>>(phobos), meaning "fear." Xenophobia can manifest itself in many ways
>>>>>>involving the relations and perceptions of an ingroup towards an
>>>>>>outgroup, including a fear of losing identity, suspicion of its
>>>>>>activities,
>>>>>>aggression, and desire to eliminate its presence to secure a presumed
>>>>>>purity.[2] Xenophobia can also be exhibited in the form of an
>>>>>>"uncritical exaltation of another culture" in which a culture is
>>>>>>ascribed "an
>>>>>>unreal, stereotyped and exotic quality".["
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia
>>>>>>Wikpedia.
>>>>>>accessed: 27/05/10.
>
> Gee... how did you "remember" all that, given that you've stated --
> "You do not remember what is not in your memory and it is not in your
> memory if you did not experience or witness it first hand."
>
> You actually experienced or witnessed the Greeks??? You naughty boy,
> you!!!
>
Remember what, sir? Are you still clutching at straws?
>>>>>>I was correct as always, dear sir. the word "Xenophobia" was
>>>>>>perfectly
>>>>>>germane to my argument.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you mean does it describe YOUR methods, then there is no question
>>>>> that it applies to YOU. For example, just now you questioned the
>>>>> source of the word "mommy." That's definitely an example of your
>>>>> xenophobia -- "fear of foreigners." While your Bible-thumping raving
>>>>> about a death penalty for murderers in a land foreign to you,
>>>>> certainly expresses a "relations and perceptions of an ingroup"
>>>>> toward those you consider an outgroup (the U.S.).
>>>>
>>> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>>>
>>>>No, sir.I mean it describe your methods.
>>>
>>> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>>
>>An unreferenced cite is inadmissible
>
> Quite true... so why did you claim that you're a blockhead?
I did not, sir.
>
>>>
>>>>If you cannot argue without lying then you should not be allowed to play
>>>>at all.
>>>
>>> Why do you keep offering cites without references, shit-for-brains?
>>
>>I do not, sir.
>>
>>
>>http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrite
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
>>
> ROTFLMAO... It's too late, sport... you already turned in your
> examination without offering cites or references. Trying to do
> it now... is locking the barn door after the cows have moved on.
>
No I didn't sir.
> Remember... when you point your finger at me, in "calling the kettle
> black," there are three fingers on that same hand pointing right back
> at you, sport.
No, dear fellow. They all point at you.
I ended my comment with a question mark, sir. I was asking you a question.
I have not killed anyone sir.
>
>>>> In perspective, your people have had thier fair share
>>>>of bloodshed, sir.
>>>
>>> How do you remember that? Did you experience the U.S 300 years ago?
>>
>>It's called "an education", sir.
>
> So you've never received an "education" about the Holocaust. And then
> you wonder why I pity the lack of nurturing you have received in
> your life
I received much education about the holocaust, sir.
>
>>> Were you there at Wounded Knee?? Europe, in the last 100 years,
>>> murdered in various genocides at least 100 times the total number of
>>> murders in genocides in the U.S. in that full 300 years. Shit...
>>> Europe managed to do it five times at much in only FIVE years In the
>>> 20th Century!!! And more than once in that 20th Century. While the
>>> bloody history of Europe's past should cause you to weep... but you
>>> can't REMEMBER it. How very convenient for you.
>>
>>However, most of europe had the sense to abolish the death penalty, sir.
>
> See above... Be sure to ask the Pope to bless you for saving the lives
> of murderers... I understand he doesn't give a fuck about Blacks in
> Africa either.... just like you.
I care not for the pope, sir.
>
>>> The 20th Century was the bloodiest century in human history. And
>>> that bloodshed was 99.99% the result of Europe's citizens inability
>>> to get along with each other.
>>
>>Whilest America sat back till the last minute then tried to claim they
>>saved
>>everyone sir.
>
> Since when are we RESPONSIBLE for Europe??? When was the last time
> any nation in Europe helped us? I'll tell you when... when the French
> helped us 300 years ago, in their own interests to gain our
> independence. And we still "remember" it. While YOU can't even
> remember the Nazis in your Europe attempting the extermination of
> European Jewry. Six million murdered innocent Jews.. less than 70
> years ago... and you can't "remember," while you do remember the
> Crusades, and the "Greeks."
>
"Since when are we RESPONSIBLE for Europe??? "
You are not, sir but you persistently try to make Europe do things your way.
If they do not, you have one of your so well known temper tantrums and bomb
something.
>>> However, you've certainly left me ROTFLMAO.
>>
>>Puerile, sir.
>
> What I see as your sickness is duly noted. What I see as your
> affection for genocide and war is also duly noted. What I see
> as your affection for murderers is also duly noted.
"What I see "
Are pretty clouds, people picking mushrooms, the world speaking American
English (sic), your nuclear weapons looming threateningly over the world's
populace sir and the electric chair warmed up, sir
Wikipedia is such a life saver for you, sir. Perhaps you should read those
books in your collection.
>>I'm
>>amazed. We shall see how long it takes you to catch up. Not long I'd
>>wager.
>>You seem to be invading everybody and you still have the barbaric death
>>penalty.
>
> And you still have the cursed genocide of close to a million innocent
> Tutsis brought by a European power who wants to maintain French
> hegemony in Africa. You know what Mitterand said about those
> million murdered innocent Tutsis... murdered with French complicity,
> providing arms to the Hutus... urging them to get on with the
> massacre??? He is quoted as saying -- "in such countries, genocide is
> not too important." Nice leaders you elect. You curse us for
> electing Bush, and it turns out that Mitterand was responsible for at
> least 20 times the deaths that Bush and Blair are responsible for.
> Every time I mention this... Europeans posting here suddenly turn
> deaf, dumb, and blind.
"And you still have the cursed genocide of close to a million innocent
> Tutsis brought by a European power who wants to maintain French
> hegemony in Africa"
No I don't sir.
>
>>> <fx: Death Disco stares wide eyed with open mouth gaping at proof of
>>> the long history of European hate for each other>
>>
>>Wishful thinking on your part, sir.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrite
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
"Yeah"
Then you concern yourself too much with the thoughts of other people sir.
How typically American of you. Others' opinions are none of your business,
sir.
>
>>"You pray to a god to strike me down for correcting your English, sir?
>>Hardly the response of an athiest."
>>
>>Is not a lie, sir.
>
> Rubbish. I said "If there were a "God." You expect that to mean I
> pray to such an imaginary "God." So I suppose if I wrote "If you
> were a Nazi," that would mean that you pray to the Nazis. You
> need an intense mental examination... and I am dead serious about
> that. I think you miss your mommy... being away from home for
> the first time in your young life.
You imagine there is a god, sir. You prayed for it to strike me down, sir..
"Sure you did"
No I didn't, sir.
>>> Or do you now admit that you _just made it up_? Let me make
No, sir. I don't need to know that as it does not alter the point.
>
>>>>"Do you step on that cockroach or do you let that cockroach crawl on
>>>>your
>>>>baby while you run to get some kind of paper or something to remove that
>>>>cockroach gently to avoid hurting your baby and that cockroach?"
>>>>
>>>>No sir. I pick up the cochroach, I take it outside and let it go.
>>>
>>> You mean you'd pick it off of the arm of your baby, after your baby
>>> has been infected with e-coli. How very fatherly of you... now you
>>> only have to worry about your baby dying from e-coli.
>>
>>If it was on the arm of my baby then killing it would spread it's "disease
>>causing organisms" all over my baby sir.
>
> RTFQ!!! I never said it was on the arm of your baby. I offered you
> the CHOICE between killing it, or knowing that it WOULD BE on the arm
> of your baby. You chose to let it go to the arm of your baby, and
> THEN let it wiggle its six legs a bit before you could grasp it,
> spreading even more germs to your own hand, and carefully depositing
> it outside your window for the birds to feast upon. I wonder why you
> don't have some _cockroach cages_, in which you can _save the
> cockroach_ of the world from those nasty birds.
>
" knowing that it WOULD BE on the arm of your baby."
Are you getting angry again, sir?
>>You should think your debates through, sir. Did you have any children that
>>lived sir?
>
> Does your mother still prostitute herself for a living? Trust me...
> you start bringing insults to my real family or real children, rather
> than a hypothetical thought experiment and you will find yourself
> being accused of screwing your sister. Remember that YOU started
> it. Now apologize and let's move on.
>
"Does your mother still prostitute herself for a living?"
I am sure she could be persuaded, sir. For a broken down hopeless old man
such as yourself, she me very likely increase the price.
>>>>I would guess that you would stamp on it, splattering the poor little
>>>>creature
>>>>ans spreading it's blood which contains "more than 50 disease causing
>>>>organisms" all over your baby. There is absolutely no reason to kill the
>>>>cockroach sir.
>>>
>>> I'd stamp the shit out of it just for kicks. And then spread Clorox
>>> all over the mess, and throw my shoe in an incinerator, before it
>>> could touch my baby. Bacteria can't jump from the floor to my baby,
>>> but it sure can go from any of the six legs of that cockroach to my
>>> baby's body before I could "pick it up." But then your answer is that
>>> you consider the life of the cockroach to be more valuable than the
>>> possibility of transmitting a deadly disease to your baby. That's
>>> exactly the answer I expected from you. You do know that the "poor
>>> little cockroach" will be food for the birds shortly in any case,
>>> while the possible fatal illness it might transmit to your child will
>>> haunt you forever... or not... since you seem cold as ice when it
>>> comes to worrying about humans, including your own baby, but
>>> warm and fuzzy all over when it comes to worrying about cockroaches.
>>>
>>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
I have already accepted your flag of surrender, sir.
"But you're no longer worth my time"
>>
>>Then you are a murderer, sir, on two counts. One for killing the poor
>>innocent cockroach
>
> ROTFLMAO. Read the definition of murder, you ignorant child.
> MURDER -- "The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially
> with premeditated malice."
> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/murder
>
> Insects are NOT "human." Only someone on the edge of sanity could
> argue that _cockroaches_ are HUMAN.
The unlawful, deliberate killing, sir. So if womeone were to kill you it
would not be murder.
>
> Oh, wait... you need a cite for that, because you're too ignorant to
> figure it out for yourself. Here you go --
> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/human
> HUMAN -- "A member of the genus Homo and especially of the species H.
> sapiens."
You reference incorrectly, sir. Will you ever learn?
>
> But of course, you've also said that -- "if i do not approve of a
> definition I simply choose not to use it." Which makes it easy for
> you to invent your own definitions, although it makes communicating
> with other humans... IMPOSSIBLE! You sound like Michael
> Jackson singing the role of Danny to his pet rat, "Ben," as his only
> friend. BTW -- do you consider rats "superior" to cockroaches??
> Heh heh heh.
>
" But of course, you've also said that -- "if i do not approve of a
definition I simply choose not to use it." Which makes it easy for you to
invent your own definitions"
Your logic is erroneous, sir.
>> and two for infecting you baby by spreading the cockroach's
>>disease carrying organisms all over your baby, sir.
>
> Wrong... I killed the cockroach on the floor... my hypothetical baby
> was NOT on the floor. You lifted the cockroach carefully from your
> hypothetical baby's arm, thoroughly infecting your hypothetical
> baby with up to 50 known diseases.
>
"I killed the cockroach on the floor... my hypothetical baby
> was NOT on the floor"
Yes, it was sir. You knocked over its cot when you rushed to murder the
cockroach. I hope the baby was not yours, sir.
> You should be ashamed of yourself. That cockroach NEVER touched
> my baby.
>>
>>> Apparently if the choice came to you having to kill a cockroach to
>>> prevent the execution of an innocent, you'd simply not _have the
>>> heart_ to kill that cockroach, you call "the poor little creature."
>>> Maybe I should have framed my thought experiment thusly, to
>>> clearly put into focus how little you care about HUMANS, and how
>>> much you care about COCKROACHES!
>>
>>You should work on thinking things through before trying thought
>>experiments
>>on others, sir.
>
> You should RTFQ when you see thought experiments rather than
> contriving your own set of circumstances and accusing the other
> of "murder." How many "murders" have you committed in washing
> your hands??
>
"RTFQ"
Language, sir.
>>> Since you find humans and cockroaches no different, if you had
>>> to kill a human or kill a cockroach, and had no other choice, which
>>> would you kill? After all, you can't make the same choice as
>>> Buridan's donkey in this thought experiment. One or the other,
>>> sport. Which one is it?
>
> And we see Death Disco respond with *deathly silence*
> For a guy that raves on and on about irrelevant things, and
> insists he _talks to "something higher than ourselves"_ we
> now find he is at a loss for words.
No, sir. That was your response.
>
>>> Regardless... I'm now getting a better focus on why you deny the
>>> Holocaust. It's because to you six million Jews are worth less than
>>> six million and one cockroaches, in your sick mind.
>
> And we see Death Disco respond with *deathly silence*
> For a guy that raves on and on about irrelevant things, and
> insists he _talks to "something higher than ourselves"_ we
> now find he is at a loss for words.
No, sir. That was your response.
>
>>>>>>>>> You're not happy merely assassinating the English language, you
>>>>>>>>> want to crucify it before murdering it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Another one of your puerile response.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another one of your mindless drivel responses. Is "puerile" a
>>>>>>> new word you've discovered?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Puerile.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for answering the question with your agreement.
>>>>
>>>>If you cannot win your arguments without lying then you should not be
>>>>allowed to take part.
>>>
>>> Pardon me... but I asked the question "Is 'puerile' a new word you've
>>> discovered?" And you answered with that word proving it is impossible
>>> that I was lying. The only reason you call me a liar is because you
>>> have nothing else to use in defense of your ignorance. So you expect
>>> to call me, what you just proved yourself to be.... shit-for-brains.
>>>
>>
>>If you cannot win your arguments without lying or (inclusive) name calling
>>then you should not be allowed to take part.
>
> Who the hell are you to tell me what I can and can't do? This is just
> more of your God-complex at work. Nonetheless... the only liar is
> you... because I NEVER, EVER LIE!! You need to offer a cite of my
> words that demonstrates I have lied. In fact, my never having lied
> has brought me more grief in arguments than if I had lied. When I
> win arguments the claims that I'm a liar come out of the woodwork...
> like your pet "cockroaches."
"Who the hell are you to tell me what I can and can't do?"
Indeed, sir. Will you take instruction only from another American, sir?
"Only in your mind"
No, sir. In reality
>
>>> English criminal law applies to the law in the U.K.
>>>
>>
>>Yes sir, but if you suggest that killing in self defense does not carry a
>>prison term in the UK then you are wrong sir.
>
> Killing in recognized self-defense does not carry any crime at
> all. It's only when it has been determined that the definition
> of self-defense has not been met that anyone can be accused
> or convicted of any crime. If the recognized LEGAL conditions
> of self-defense are MET... there has no crime committed.
Killing carries a custodial sentence, even if it is in self-defence. That is
British law, of course.
>
> You did not SUGGEST... but INSISTED that factually -- "You kill
> someone in self defense in Britian (sic) then your conviction will
> read that of masnlaughter (sic)." But you were wrong, and now you
> are lying hope to wiggle out of that silly comment. If you
> kill in legally recognized self-defense in Britian (sic) then you
> have committed NO CRIME.
You are wrong, sir.
>
> It is when you kill, and it not recognized as being in self-defense,
> even if you plead that it was, that you will be accused and tried
> in a court of law for "manslaughter," or even "murder" if it is
> found that your claim of self-defense was rubbish and you killed
> intentionally and with malice aforethought.
You do not know British law, sir.
Of course, we can, sir. You do it persistently.
>
>>Killing in self defense is manslaughter and is punishable by imprisonment,
>>sir.
>
> Heh... Saying it, is not proving it. Unless you abide by the diktat
> of Hitler, who insisted that "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep
> saying it, and eventually they will believe it"
>
I am under no obligation to prove anything to you, sir.
> While you may claim that "I have no obligation to prove my arguments
> or to answer anything," that only means even you know that your
> argument is not true.
>
No it doesn't, sir.
I have responded to this further up the post, sir. Repeating it would be
pointless.
>>>>> Apparently you just use your imagination in your arguments, and
>>>>> don't even bother with the truth. To you... like to Hitler... the
>>>>> TRUTH is just an inconvenience if it conflicts with your agenda.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You have just describes your "Strategy" correctly sir. It's time you
>>>>were
>>>>honest with yourself.
>>>
>>> Once again your argument against my proof is that I must be using
>>> YOUR strategy. When have you EVER "told the truth"?
>>>
>>
>>You have provided no proof, sir. You have only provided an incorrectly
>>referenced cite.
>
> ROTFLMAO. That from the guy who insists he doesn't have to provide
> proof of anything he says -- Such as his words --
>
> "I don't need to prove it, dear fellow."
> "I am not obliged to prove it to you."
> "I am not obliged to prove anything to you, sir."
> "I do not need to offer scientific proof"
> "I am the exclusive author of my issue and only I have
> the authority to make and declerations(sic) base (sic) upon it."
> "I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything."
> etc... etc... etc...
> And finally -- Your claim that "It's the unknown, sir."
> Which you argue is _an unknown but known to you_.
>
I did not ask for proof, sir. I informed you that you had not provided any.
On the other hand, you repeatedly ask for proof so proof is your commitment.
> Since when are you a better source of information than the sources
> I've provided? Let's be clear... you ASSERTED -- "Killing in self
> defense is manslaughter and is punishable by imprisonment,
> sir." PROVE IT! Show me one reference in which there is the
> clear statement that "killing in self-defense is manslaughter."
> Just one, sport. No legal system accepts that argument. Every
> legal system in the western world recognizes the right of
> self-defense.
>
> However, I am certain that the following reference is proof positive
> of my argument. It is the OFFICIAL U.K. government site of "The
> Crown Prosecution Services." See --
> http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/self_defence/
> Quote -- "it is important to ensure that all those acting reasonably
> and in good faith to defend themselves, their family, their property
> or in the prevention of crime or the apprehension of offenders are not
> prosecuted for such action.."
I have responded to this further up the post, sir. Repeating it would be
pointless.
>
> End of story... you lose, sport. Unless you argue that this voice
> of "something higher than ourselves," told you that "The Crown
> Prosecution Service" is a bunch of crap.
>
"You lose, sport"
You're guessing, sir.
Since I came to Britain, sir.
>
> See above. Or see the OFFICIAL U.K. government site of "The
> Crown Prosecution Services." See --
> http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/self_defence/
> Quote -- "it is important to ensure that all those acting reasonably
> and in good faith to defend themselves, their family, their property
> or in the prevention of crime or the apprehension of offenders are not
> prosecuted for such action.."
I have responded to this further up the post, sir. Repeating it would be
pointless.
>
>>>>> Apparently you just use your imagination in your arguments, and
>>>>> don't even bother with the truth. To you... like to Hitler... the
>>>>> TRUTH is just an inconvenience if it conflicts with your agenda.
>>>>
>>>>You have just describes your "Strategy" correctly sir. It's time you
>>>>were
>>>>honest with yourself.
>>>
>>> Stop repeating your lies. Repetition has no relation to accuracy.
>>
>>I repeat only your lies, sir.
>
> TRANSLATION "I repeat only your lies, sir.."'
>
>>>>> Why don't you try something new... Like telling the truth?
>>>>
>>>>Pot? Pot? this is kettle. Colour check please...
>>>
>>> TRANSLATION: "Pot? Pot? this is kettle. Colour check please...."
>
> So you admit you're a liar.
No, sir. I admit that you are.
You're guessing, sir.
You're guessing, sir.
>
>>>>> <clip more hysterical raving from the Bubble-boy who has been deprived
>>>>> of any intellect whatsoever>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I have already accepted your surrender, sir.
>>>
>>> It's that psychotic God-complex of yours talking to you rather than my
>>> "surrender," my young ignorant child. Saying things that make it
>>> appear you believe you are God, that what you say must be taken as
>>> fact rather than your silly opinion... comments of yours such as --
>>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>>
>>You have a prejudice against the "young" (Sic), sir!
>
> An unreferenced cite is inadmissable (sic).
That was not a cite, sir. Do you have a clue, sir?
Is the pinnacle of your intellectual capability sir?
>
> I read your "excuse," but I haven't got around to responding to all of
> your disturbed mind comments. I have other priorities, plus I take my
> time... so I don't have to ask the teacher for my work to be returned
> because I was in a hurry. Most nights I do even read AADP comments
> until after midnight, when I'm sure my wife is sound asleep.
"I read your "excuse," "
I offerecd no excuse, sir. There was nothing to excuse.
>
>>>>> This is a simple problem in arithmetic if one understands the
>>>>> question. And you should be able to compute it in your head, and
>>>>> not need to even resort to paper and pen, or a computer. You
>>>>> shouldn't even need "the back of an envelope."
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It was very simple, sir. They teach it to 13 year old physics students.
>>>>Is
>>>>that where you learned it, sir?
>>>
>>> Yet, you fucked it up. And even fucked it up using pen and pencil,
>>> and calculator, and references... none of which were needed to solve
>>> the very easy problem.
>>
>>"Yet, you fucked it up"
>>
>>I did sir. Nevertheless, I corrected. It is fortunate I was not submitting
>>it to anyone whose opinion matters. However, I am still waiting to see you
>>answer the simple problem I set for you. What was the expression you used?
>>"Overly complicated"
>
> Hardly. Now that I've answered it when can I expect the answer to my
> second question, or even my third question.
It is fortunate I was not submitting it to anyone whose opinion matters,
sir.
>
>>>>>>> Nor do I have to consult wikipedia to know what mens rea and actus
>>>>>>> reus mean. But obviously you had to look it up.
>>>>>
>>>>> <clip vacuous repeating of my comment>
>>>>
>>>>I've already accepted your surrender.
>>>
>>> It's that psychotic God-complex of yours talking to you rather than my
>>> "surrender," my young ignorant child. Saying things that make it
>>> appear you believe you are God, that what you say must be taken as
>>> fact rather than your silly opinion... comments of yours such as --
>>>
>>> "I don't need to prove it, dear fellow."
>>> "I am not obliged to prove it to you."
>>> "I am not obliged to prove anything to you, sir."
>>> "I do not need to offer scientific proof"
>>> "I am the exclusive author of my issue and only I have
>>> the authority to make and declerations(sic) base (sic) upon it."
>>> "I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything."
>>> etc... etc... etc...
>>> And finally -- Your claim that "It's the unknown, sir."
>>> Which you argue is _an unknown but known to you_
>>>
>>
>>"But you're no longer worth my time"
>>
>>That was your surrender, sir.
>>
> You may think so... shit... you think you're God, or at least God
> talks to you. But you should notice that I'm still here. Thus,
> you're a bit premature in claiming victory.
"You may think so"
I do, sir.
>
> While our purpose here should not be "victory," but progress... thus
> my purpose is simply to provide a small measure of nurturing to you
> that has obviously been neglected by those who should have nurtured
> you. I've come not to expect more from you than what your nurturing
> has failed to provide.
You're guessing sir. You have no purpose. You are a waste, sir.
>
>>>>>>What you are saying to me is that you did not do any research. This
>>>>>>explains
>>>>>>why you get so many words wrong. I suggest you buy a dictionary, sir.
>>>>>>
>>>>> <clip vacuous repeating of my comment>
>>>>
>>>>I've already accepted your surrender.
>>>
>>> It's that psychotic God-complex of yours talking to you rather than my
>>> "surrender," my young ignorant child. Saying things that make it
>>> appear you believe you are God, that what you say must be taken as
>>> fact rather than your silly opinion... comments of yours such as --
>>>
>>> "I don't need to prove it, dear fellow."
>>> "I am not obliged to prove it to you."
>>> "I am not obliged to prove anything to you, sir."
>>> "I do not need to offer scientific proof"
>>> "I am the exclusive author of my issue and only I have
>>> the authority to make and declerations(sic) base (sic) upon it."
>>> "I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything."
>>> etc... etc... etc...
>>> And finally -- Your claim that "It's the unknown, sir."
>>> Which you argue is _an unknown but known to you_
>>>
>>
>>"But you're no longer worth my time"
>>
>>That was your surrender, sir.
>
> You may think so... shit... you think you're God, or at least God
> talks to you. But you should notice that I'm still here. Thus,
> you're a bit premature in claiming victory.
"You may think so"
I do, sir.
>
> While our purpose here should not be "victory," but progress... thus
> my purpose is simply to provide a small measure of nurturing to you
> that has obviously been neglected by those who should have nurtured
> you. I've come not to expect more from you than what your nurturing
> has failed to provide.
You're guessing sir. You have no purpose. You are a waste, sir.
>
>>>>>>At some point I did, yes. It's called research. It's how most people
>>>>>>learn
>>>>>>words which is considerably more than your method of guessing them,
>>>>>>dear
>>>>>>fellow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then you should look up the word "prejudice" and see what a fool
>>>>> you are, and how it describes your anti-Semitism perfectly.
>>>>
>>>>I did look it up sir. You claim that you do not need to. Curious
>>>
>>> I've looked it up... and guess what? Not one single mention of the
>>> word "static" exists in ANY definition of the word "prejudice" in ANY
>>> English dictionary that I can find. And I have looked at about a
>>> dozen of them, both on-line dictionaries and those I have in my
>>> private library. So what dictionary have you been using that has
>>> the word "static" in the definition of the word "prejudice"???
>>> I recall the definition you did provide that only proved me right
>>> as to the word being subjective -- a "mental abstraction," of no
>>> real physical existence. And nowhere in that definition you provided
>>> does the word "static" appear. So put up or shut up.
>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>>
>>I never said it did, sir.
>>
> Yet you argued that "prejudice" is a "static word."
It is, dear fellow.
>
>>> *deathly silence*
>>
>>You are anything but silent, sir.
>
> Can't stand the heat when I put your feet to the fire, can you?
You cannot acclaim me for your words, sir.
No, sir.
>
> I never, ever lie. Claiming I do is simply your own smear tactics to
> discredit my exposing your own lies and deceit. It's a popular
> tactic used by those who are either exposed for being a liar or want
> to shift the argument (which is recognized as lost) to one of ad
> hominem, about presumed, but unexplained or lacking a cite to past
> comments. Simply call the person who exposes you -- a liar. And
> then "claim victory" as if that proves he is a liar. As to name
> calling... I have seldom found a more "name-calling-worthy" poster
> than you, sport.
" I never, ever lie."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>
>>>".</sarcasm>"
>>
>>Of course it was, sir. I doubt even you can be that stupid.
>
> Well... wait a minute... you argued that humans are not "superior" to
> what you referred to as the "poor little creature" called the
> cockroach. So given that premise which is a true premise from your
> own words... you argue that six million and one cockroaches are worth
> more to you than six million innocent Jews. It's a fair question
> since you insisted that a cockroach is no less than a human being.
Why Jews, sir? Do you see them more important than the rest of the world?
Are you a racist, sir?
>
> But I need to hear it from you... so given your original premise...
> another thought experiment... If you had to kill a cockroach to
> save a murderer from execution... would you kill that cockroach??
> Remember... you don't want to be called a "murderer" (sic)... do you??
"But I need to hear it from you"
You cannot hear me, sir.
An unreferenced cite is inadmissible
>
>>>>> In addition my home library is quite extensive -- See-
>>>>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/library.mov
>>>>> And I am a voracious reader.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> That however, is only a small part of my total library, since it does
>>>>> not include technical works which I maintain in my computer room.
>>>>> Which can be seen here --
>>>>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Library.JPG
>>>>
>>>>It is not wise to post personal information on a public forum to someone
>>>>your are having an aggressive debate with, sir.
>>>
>>> Should I fear you??? I don't see how pictures of my home library
>>> represent a threat to my safety, given I have already provided my
>>> real name (which was detected by a cyber-stalker who could not
>>> stand being intellectually defeated). That would represent a possible
>>> threat, since another cyber-stalker began posting my address and
>>> phone number and even called my home phone in a threatening
>>> manner in speaking to my wife, but hung up before I could come
>>> to the phone. See --
>>> http://tinyurl.com/mev6pd
>>
>>" Should I fear you??? "
>>
>>No sir. I offer no threat to your safety but I cannot speak for others.
>
> So it's your friends I have to worry about. Heh... recall the words
> of de Cervantes -- "Tell me thy company, and I'll tell thee what thou
> art."
>
"So it's your friends I have to worry about."
You feel that you need to worry?
> "So it's your friends I have to worry about."
>
>
>
> You feel that you need to worry?
>
>
>>>>>However, you are proof that reading does not make a person "smart"
>>>>
>>>> Spoken like a boy who hasn't read a book in the past month.
>>>
>>>You're guessing, sir.
>>
>> No proof offered. Your claim fails. Plus "an unreferenced is
>> inadmissable (sic)" Whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean.
>
An unreferenced cite is inadmissible.
>
>>
"However, I know"
No you don't sir.
Really sir; if you cannot win an argument without lying then you should not
be allowed to play.
>>
An unreferenced cite is inadmissible
>>
>> Do you know that you qualify as being risibly stupid?
>> I'll bet I'm not the first one to tell you that.
"Do you know that you qualify as being risibly stupid?"
No sir. With the exception of you, there is no such thing as a stupid
person.
>>
>>>>>If you cannot win your arguments without lying then you should not be
>>>>>allowed to take part.
>>>>
>>>> I'm only examining the FACT that you do not oppose innocent men
>>>> dying in prison, because you do not oppose a criminal justice system
>>>> in which that occurs, while you do oppose executing guilty murderers.
>>>> Calling me a liar doesn't change the fact that there is no way you
>>>> can dispute what I have said. I pointed out that two innocents have
>>>> been PROVEN to have died in prison. You insist it doesn't bother
>>>> you to the point that you would oppose a criminal justice system
>>>> in which that can possibly happen (which is EVERY criminal justice
>>>> system). While you do oppose a guilty murderer dying in prison
>>>> through legal execution. You once said "murder is murder."
>>>> Well, let me also say that "dead is dead." The only difference
>>>> between an innocent dying in prison, and a guilty murderer being
>>>> executed, is that the former WAS INNOCENT, and the latter
>>>> WAS GUILTY OF MURDER. You do not oppose the former
>>>> happening, but jump up and down like a puppet on a string
>>>> at the thought of the latter happening.
>>>>
>>>
>>>"I'm only examining the FACT"
>>>
>>>Correction, sir. That should say "I'm only examining my GUESS".
>>
>> Wrong. Those are the FACTS. You support a criminal justice
>> system. It is mathematically impossible to create a criminal justice
>> system which does not have the possibility of an innocent dying
>> in prison. End of story.
"Those are the FACTS"
No, sir. They were guesses.
No death, innocent or guilty as a result of imprisonment is accptable, sir.
" I am not so stupid that I do not realize that my support for a criminal
justice system in the U.S., recognizing that as all criminal justice system
it is imperfect, implies my support for the possible death of an innocent in
prison. It's called "the lesser of two evils." "
Do you tell yourself that excuse when you sleep at night, sir. The death on
an innocent is not a lesser evil.
>>
>>>>>>> Any imperfect justice system which includes all off
>>>>>>>them should not inclde a death penalty.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What the fuck are you raving about? Exactly what language are you
>>>>>> trying to communicate in, sport?
>>>>>
>>>>>English, sir.
>>>>
>>>> And not doing a very good job of it, my boy. Although if your
>>>> intention was to assassinate it.. you did a fine job, my boy. Two
>>>> spelling errors in one and a half lines of text, and the use of the
>>>> word "them" without the slightest suggestion of who you mean
>>>> by "them."
>>>
>> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>>>
>>>You did not recognise it, sir. You should take lessons in English;
>>>especially one in what words mean.
>>
>> ROTFLMAO... you mean like your claim that "prejudice" is a "static"
>> word??? In any case do you deny that you had two spelling errors,
>> and a totally incomprehensible use of "them" in your short sentence?
>> What is "them" supposed to relate to? Any imperfect Justice System
>> is EVERY Justice System. Humans are incapable of being _perfect_.
>> It is a given that there is a mathematical possibility of both
>> convicting an innocent and that innocent dying in prison. Those
>> are what we call "mathematical facts." "All of" WHAT??? My boy.
" you mean like your claim that "prejudice" is a "static" word???"
No, dear fellow. Prejudice is a static word.
>>
>> My point is that obviously, if you support a criminal justice
>> system, with or without the death penalty. you cannot logically oppose
>> the death penalty on _moral grounds_, arguing the possibility of
>> executing an innocent is the _moral reason_ you oppose the death
>> penalty. Since it is EXPLICIT in supporting a criminal justice system
>> that you do not oppose the possibility of an innocent dying in prison.
You're quite wrong, sir. The execution of innocent is not the sole reason
for opposing the death penalty.
>> TRANSLATION "Your debate is puerile and wasteful, sir.."'
As do I, sir. As I thank my stars that I am not your son, sir.
J
I look forward to seeing that sir. You have a lot of work to do. Have you
been filling your time by practicing some swotting, sir?
>
>>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>news:l2db06hcao304a4bg...@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 31 May 2010 14:56:34 +0100, "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
>>> wrote:
<snip>
>>>
>>> Of course... it was in respect to YOUR post. Try to pay attention.
>>
>>My words were, "No sir " But you're no longer worth my time", is clearly
>>in
>>respect to a person, not a partucular post, sir."
>
> You again have it ass-backwards. _The post_ having been written by a
> particular person. Do try to pay attention to the English language.
"ass-backwards"
Curious.
" But you're no longer worth my time"
Was perfectly clear, sir. You cannot take time back, you know.
>
>>Really sir; if you cannot win an argument without lying then you should
>>not
>>be allowed to play.
>
> [2] see bottom of post.
If I stay awake that long, sir.
>>> Hey, you've been declaring yourself the winner, stating that you've
>>> already "accepted <my> flag of surrender." How did you figure that
>>> out other than declaring yourself the winner?
>>
>>I have not declared myself the winner, dear sir. I was asserting an
>>obvious
>>truth.
>
> That's declaring, shit-for-brains. Do try to learn more about the
> English language. The synonyms for "asserting" are "proclaim,"
> "declare," "announce," "state," "voice," "express," etc... etc...
> etc...
No sir. I was asserting the obvious truth.
"shit-for-brains"
Oh, dear, sir. If you cannot win your arguments without lying or (inclusive)
name-calling then you should not be allowed to take part.
<snip>
>>> I'll bet you wish!
>>
>>Are you a habitual gambler sir?
>
> I haven't yet lost any money betting on your ignorance, Sir
> shit-for-brains.
>
That is because you didn't bet any, sir.
>>>>> "I don't need to prove it, dear fellow."
>>>>> "I am not obliged to prove it to you."
>>>>> "I am not obliged to prove anything to you, sir."
>>>>> "I do not need to offer scientific proof"
>>>>> "I am the exclusive author of my issue and only I have
>>>>> the authority to make and declerations(sic) base (sic) upon it."
>>>>> "I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything."
>>>>> etc... etc... etc...
>>>>> And finally -- Your claim that "It's the unknown, sir."
>>>>> Which you argue is _an unknown but known to you_.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No it doesn't, sir.
>>>
>>> Yes, it does, my young student.
>>
>>No it doesn't, sir.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
Denying something doesn't automatically make the denier a liar, sir.
>
> Yes, it does, my petulant child. If you don't "know," how can you
> claim it? And you did claim that this Tooth Fairy "right to life"
> that you invented from your imagination comes from "something
> higher than ourselves." What is that "something," and how did it
> tell you of this "right to life"? Oh... wait.. the voices came to you
> as you were thumping your Bible... never mind...
>
"Yes, it does"
No it doesn't, sir.
<snip>
>>> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>>I have already accepted your flag of surrender, sir.
>
> Our goal here is not to claim "victory" but to see some progress in
> reducing your abysmal ignorance of all things, including your racism,
> your Holocaust denial, and your belief that you hear voices from
> "something higher than ourselves."
>
Our goal here is not to claim "victory"
You lying is as transparent as ever, sir.
>>
>>You are struggling to interpret my comments, sir. Perhaps you should play
>>with "special" people, like you.
>
> All people are "special," shit-for-brains. You're a racist for
> implying otherwise. And they are all more "special" than cockroaches,
> despite your deep and abiding affection for cockroaches, who you
> consider _the equal of humans_.
>
"All people are "special," "
You certainly are, sir.
>>
>>I don't have to lie, sir. Lying is your strategy.
>
> [2] see bottom of post.
Are you bored with your own repetition, sir?
> [1] see bottom of post.
As should you, sir.
>
>>
>>I don't have to lie, sir. Lying is your strategy.
>
> [2] see bottom of post.
As should you, sir.
>
> I never, ever lie. Claiming I do is simply your own smear tactics to
> discredit my exposing your own lies and deceit. It's a popular
> tactic used by those who are either exposed for being a liar or want
> to shift the argument (which is recognized as lost) to one of ad
> hominem, about presumed, but unexplained or lacking a cite to past
> comments. Simply call the person who exposes you -- a liar. And
> then offer a comment such as "I am not obliged to prove anything to
> you, sir," as if that proves he is a liar. Remember when you pouted
> and burst out in tears as you wrote -- "I am not obligated to prove
> anything to you, sir"?
"I never, ever lie"
Really sir; if you cannot win an argument without lying then you should not
be allowed to play.
<snip>
>>>>You use the expression, "young" like some form of accusation, sir.
>>>
>>> No... I use it matter-of-factly.
>>
>>Do you see what you did wrong there, sir? You confused "fact" with
>>"guess".
>
> And you confuse "cockroaches" with humans. Insisting that stepping
> on a cockroach is "murder." ROTFLMAO.
How is that relevent to your previous remark, sir?
>
> However, as usually you have your English fucked up: I was using the
> term "matter-of-factly," as meaning "being plain, straightforward, or
> unemotional." See --
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/matter-of-factly
> You need to expand your knowledge of the English language.
> Because matter-of-factly... it stinks. This time I'm using it in the
> other sense.
>
" However, as usually you have your English fucked up"
Language, sir.
Really sir; if you cannot win an argument without resorting to vulgarity
then you should not be allowed to play.
>>>> It is evident that you escrimate against "the young".
>>>
>>> If there were a word in the English language that defined "escrimate"
>>> perhaps you might be right. But given that there is no such word
>>> your comment is just mindless drivel... apparently trying to accuse
>>> me of something that doesn't exist in the English language.
>>>
>>
>>"escrimate" is a typographical error, sir.
>>http://www.thefreedictionary.com/typographical+error
>
> Apology accepted.
None was given, sir.
>
>>> We, my wife and I, have had children... they were nurtured to respect
>>> their elders, and to learn from their wisdom. They have now had
>>> children... and because our children were nurtured to respect their
>>> elders, their children are being nurtured to respect their elders.
>>> It's a shame that you lack such nurturing.
>
> [1] see bottom of post.
As should you, sir.
>
>>Did any of them live, sir or did they die as a result of infection caused
>>by
>>you covering them in cockroach blood?
>
> Did your mother try to abort you with a hanger??? That would
> explain a lot. I believe you're too stupid to even know what color
> cockroach "blood," is. In any case... you insist you've never seen
> Cockroach "blood" because that would mean you committing "murder."
> ROTFLMAO... The Cockroach lover... La Cucaracha... La Cucaracha ...
> Doesn't want to travel on...
"Did your mother try to abort you with a hanger??? "
Apparently not, sir. There is no dent in my head
>
> [1] see bottom of post.
AS should you, sir.
>
>>How disappointed they must have been to discover from being your children
>>that age does not always carry wisdom. Such would be a harsh lesson for
>>them. I grieve for them, sir. At least now, they have observed that wisdom
>>comes with open eyes and an open mind, and not a natural process of age.
>
> How disappointed your mother must been to discover she bore a child
> who would never be able to carry wisdom. Such was a harsh lesson for
> your mother, as she cried... "why didn't I use birth control??" At
> least now she has observed that there is not only the physical pain
> that comes with childbirth, but the mental anguish in watching a child
> grow into a rude, uneducated, and ignorant teenager, like you.
>
"How disappointed your mother must been to discover she bore a child who
would never be able to carry wisdom"
You're confusing my mother with yours, sir.
>>>>However I am most definately
>>>>younger than 78 but I am older than your mental age, dear fellow.
>>>
>>> No proof offered. Your claim fails. An argument of presumed fact but
>>> lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
>>
>>An unreferenced cite is inadmissible.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>
You will never get the hang of referencing will you sir? This comes as no
suprise to me.
> You're the one making the claim, sport. Don't try to spin this in the
> opposite direction as you do so often. Your argument consists of
> no proof offered, thus you are responsible to provide a cite to
> your assertion or you are a liar. But then... we already know that...
> don't we?
>
"You're the one making the claim"
"Claims", sir. We are both making claims, unfoundered with no fear of a
libel suit. It's fun isn't it?
<snip>
>>> An argument of presumed fact but lacking a referenced cite is
>>> inadmissible. Exactly how is my logic erroneous? What logical
>>> fallacy can you show in respect to my logic? All my comments to
>>> the best of my knowledge abide by the principles laid down by
>>> Aristotle as syllogistic logic. All my comments abide by the Square
>>> of Oppositions. I dislike Sophistical arguments since they lack
>>> logic... yet that is how most of your arguments are formed.
>>>
>
> [1] see bottom of post.
As should you, sir.
>>
>>Your logic does not follow normal rational reasoning, sir.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
You appear to be pasting that link randomly, sir. IS your computer
malfunctioning?
>
> An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
You did not Cite, sir. Have you always been this retarded, sir or is it a
product of your brain death?
<Snip Mr PV being pretentious>
>
>>Yes, sir.
>
> Well, thank you for agreeing with me. Now that we know you
> "remember" arithmetic... learned through a basic education,
> we know that you never learned anything else... or "remember"
> anything else. Strange that you would "remember" arithmetic
> but not "remember" the extermination of six million Jews.
> Or perhaps not so strange... perhaps it is a forgetfulness that
> is purposeful.
>
"Well, thank you for agreeing with me"
Agree with you sir? Answering your question does not constitute agreeing
with you.
"Now that we know you "remember" arithmetic... "
If your guess of my age is anything to go by, then my experience of
arythmetic was not that long ago. Yes I do remember it because I experienced
it, dear fellow. Come now, sir. Surely you must be tired of losing by now.
> Could it be because it happened in Europe, and your country
> easily gave up 107,000 Dutch Jews to the gas chambers??
My country did no such thing, sir.
We should remind yourself why you think I'm Dutch sir
"
Bet you're Dutch, with a dingleberry hanging from your ass because
of your unhygienic paedomorphic habits. You're certainly
not Italian... I am almost mother-tongue fluent in Italian having
learned most of it before I was 14, and then taking it as my
minor in college. You're not French... my wife is mother-tongue
French, born and raised in Paris... so I can do very well in
the French spoken language, and good enough in the written
language. You're not German... I spent 20 years in Germany,
and can keep up a fairly good conversation, because people
tend to overlook grammatical mistakes in respect to "der" "die"
"das" gender notation and case endings when speaking, although
my written German could use a lot of work, for which I do not
have time, and no longer have the drive I once had. I don't think
you're Spanish or Portuguese. Nor from the former East bloc.
And since you mention ...
"
Cite:
Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
From: Planet Visitor II <hidden to protect privacy>
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 00:11:17 -0400
Local: Thurs, May 27 2010 5:11 am
Subject: Re: High court rules out life sentences for some juveniles
"I am almost mother-tongue fluent in Italian having
learned most of it before I was 14, and then taking it as my
minor in college"
This is your logic for thinking I'm not Italian, sir?
"You're not French... my wife is mother-tongue
French, born and raised in Paris... "
This is your logic for thinking I'm not French, sir?
"You're not German... I spent 20 years in Germany,
and can keep up a fairly good conversation, because people
tend to overlook grammatical mistakes in respect to "der" "die"
"das" gender notation and case endings when speaking, although
my written German could use a lot of work, for which I do not
have time, and no longer have the drive I once had"
This is your logic for thinking I'm not German, sir?
You neglected to post your reasoning for believing me Dutch, sir.
>
>>>>> So if you can't remember a THING we call the Holocaust you are
>>>>> certainly denying that there was a Holocaust. Yet you do "remember"
>>>>> a thing called the Crusades. Since you continue to have the
>>>>> information that there were Crusades in your mind. How else
>>>>> could you know of it, if it was not present in your memory?
>>>>>
>>>>> and --
>>>>
>>> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>>
>>I have already accepted your flag of surrender, sir.
>
> Really, little boy, if you cannot win an argument you should
> not try to claim victory. Our goal here is not to claim "victory"
> but to see some progress in reducing your abysmal ignorance
> of all things.
>
You surrendered, sir and I accepted it.
>>>>I made no such claim, sir.
>>>>
>>> Of course you did. Your exact words -- "You cannot forget or remember
>>> the extermination of 6 million jews (sic) unless you remember them."
>>> And then your comment about "remember." Your words -- "You do not
>>> remember what is not in your memory and it is not in your memory
>>> if you did not experience or witness it first hand."
>
> [1] see bottom of post.
>
As should you, sir.
>
>>I did not, sir.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
Denying something doesn't automatically make the denier a liar, sir.
>
> Yes you did, you little Holocaust denier.
I did not, sir.
>
>>> Are you now denying those were your words?
>>
>>No, sir.
>
> Then you admit you are a Holocaust denier. Don't think you are?
> Well, let me ask you... do you "remember" that there was an
> extermination of six million Jews in the 20th Century???
"Then you admit you are a Holocaust denier"
No sir.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Knee+jerk+reaction
>
> We know already that you do not remember it... thus you deny it
> happened as far as you're concerned. And in that you urge others
> to deny it happened if they did not "experience or witness the
> Holocaust first hand." Meaning in a few years you hope to have
> enlisted a whole new species who do not remember the Holocaust
> in YOUR DEFINITION of "remember," and thus, like you, would also
> deny it ever happened. That is your goal in life... isn't it?? Answer
> the question.
"We know already that you do not remember it... thus you deny it
> happened as far as you're concerned"
Your logic does not follow normal rational reasoning, sir.
>
> Yet you fondly "remember" the Greeks. You naughty boy, you.
Only the ones I've met, sir.
<snip>
>>>>I don't sound very anything, sir. You cannot hear me,
>>>
>>> Rubbish... I can feel that fear in every word you write. Don't tell
>>> me what I can feel and cannot feel, Herr Dictator. I said "sound very
>>> afraid." I didn't say "you are very afraid." Unlike you I don't
>>> offer my opinion regarding how I feel as if it represents some
>>> fact of nature. As you do in whining about your _save the
>>> cockroaches_ campaign. Whether you are or not... you sound
>>> very afraid to me, sport.
>>>
>
> [1] see bottom of post.
As should you, sir.
>
>>You claimed that you could, "hear" me, sir.
>>Any fear that you experience is your own, sir. If you were to be able to
>>feel my emotions sir, you would feel my amusement.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
There was no denial, sir. You responses are getting more random, dear
fellow.
>
> "All biology has a birth given right to life." - your words. ROTFLMAO.
> Even those cockroaches you insist are each equal to a human being.
> Come on, sport... try that thought experiment... would you kill two
> cockroaches to save one innocent human from dying in prison???
>
Shall we wait for you temper tantrum to calm down, sir?
<snip>
>>> And that's exactly what you have offered in respect to my words
>>> "Now let's see YOUR proof, if you're not afraid," after I had posted
>>> my creds. I still haven't seen yours... so all there has been from
>>> you is *deathly silence* Which is just more reason for me to have
>>> formed the opinion that you do "sound very afraid to me."
>>>
>>
>>I am not obliged to prove anything to you, dear fellow.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
There was no denial, sir. Is your computer malfunctioning again?
>
> Heh... good to see you admit your stupidity and demonstrate your
> God-complex in just a few words. It will be added to the other at
> least five distinct mentions of your belief that you are God, and are
> answerable to no one even if you assert you come from a planet
> circling Alpha Centauri, and have "super-powers."
>
>>> If you cannot or will not post your own creds, to show that you have
>>> been educated, then it is obvious that you offer ONLY *deathly
>>> silence*.
>>>
>>
>>No, sir. The "deathly silence" came from your post so it is your response
>>despite that you have been anything but silent, sir
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>
Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar, sir.
> Obviously your ignorance is noted, and recognized as part of your
> inability to process information in the English language.
>
>>>
>>> Heh... when caught in a lie, call the other a liar hoping to ignore
>>> having been caught in a lie.
>>
>>No, sir. The lies are definately yours.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>
Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar, sir.
> [2] see bottom of post.
>
> I never, ever lie. Claiming I do is simply your own smear tactics to
> discredit my exposing your own lies and deceit. It's a popular
> tactic used by those who are either exposed for being a liar or want
> to shift the argument (which is recognized as lost) to one of ad
> hominem, about presumed, but unexplained or lacking a cite to past
> comments. Simply call the person who exposes you -- a liar. And
> then offer a comment such as "I am not obliged to prove anything to
> you, sir," as if that proves he is a liar. Remember when you pouted
> and burst out in tears as you wrote -- "I am not obligated to prove
> anything to you, sir"?
"I never, ever lie. "
Anothr lie, sir.
<Snip Mr PV backing into a corner.
>
>
>>>>> But you have no cite of any lie from me, while I have the evidence of
>>>>> your claims that you _talk to_ "something higher than ourselves," and
>>>>> "it" talks back to you. Plus all the times I have caught you in a lie
>>>>> and your answer was --
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Your cite your own lies, sir.
>>>
>>> Heh... when caught in a lie, call the other a liar hoping to ignore
>>> having been caught in a lie. Clearly, my dear fellow, despite your
>>> God-complex raving... you DO need to prove your allegations.
>>> To do that... you need to juxtapose two different comments from
>>> me which without a doubt represent a lie in one or the other of
>>> them. Where you have lied, is quite easy to show. Each time
>>> you claim that you "don't need to prove it," you show a part of
>>> you that is psychotically driven to believe he is God. Humans,
>>> my boy... need to prove EVERYTHING that they state is a FACT.
>>> Claiming you "don't need to prove it," is claiming you are God.
>>> And that makes you a liar.
>>
>>No, sir. The lies are definately yours.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar, sir.
>
> An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
That was not a cite, sir. I am loathed to admit the impossible but i beleive
your stupidity is increasing.
>
>>> While opinions are like ass holes... everyone has one... yet they have
>>> no relevance in respect to proving anything, unless they are
>>> grounded in FACT... EVIDENCE... PROOF. They only prove
>>> you have an opinion to offer that is not grounded in fact, or by
>>> evidence. Opinions which you hope to slip by as FACT... which again
>>> makes you a liar.
>>
>>"While opinions are like ass holes... everyone has one"
>>
>>They do sir? So you have only the one opinion. Curious
>
> "Opinions." "ass holes." The "s" in English means plural. I don't
> know what it means in your mother-tongue which is apparently Tigrinya.
" "Opinions." "ass holes." The "s" in English means plural"
"While opinions are like ass holes... everyone has 'one'"
The "one" implies singular, sir.
<snip>
>>>
>>
>>"You mean you're DENYING that all of those words are YOURS?"
>>
>>No, sir.
>
> That proves you lie. You admit that you lie, and have a God-complex
> in which you can say ANYTHING, and never be questioned as to the
> factual proof of what you say. You admit you can lie with impunity,
> and not be disputed in even offering the most repugnant lie you could
> invent. Such as your claim that you do not "remember" the Holocaust,
> while arguing you do "remember" the Crusades... and "those Greeks."
>
"That proves you lie".
No, sir.
<snip>
>>>>Pot? Pot? This is kettle; colour check please.
>>>>http://www.merriam-webster.com/netdict/hypocrite
>>>
>>> ROTFLMAO. That's your EXCUSE??? I guess you figure you can murder
>>> someone and use the excuse that another has also committed murder, so
>>> you should be forgiven. You do know that pot... kettle... black is
>>> not used in the fashion you use it, don't you? Since in pointing your
>>> finger at me, there are three fingers on your hand pointing right back
>>> at YOU.
>>>
>>
> [1] see bottom of post.
>>
>>There is nothing for me to excuse, sir.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar, sir.
>
> That's what you think... because you have that God-complex. Remember
> when you stated -- ""I am the exclusive author of my issue and only I
> have the authority to make and declerations(sic) base (sic) upon it."
> From what I've heard you sound just like Moses would have sounded
> when he told his flock that he had _talked to God_ and God told
> him in respect to the 10 Commandments -- "I am the exclusive author
> of these commandments and only I have the authority to make
> declarations based upon it." Accompanied by lightning and thunder.
> You damn fool.
>
"That's what you think"
Exactly, sir.
>>> Pay attention: Instead, you use that term when you see someone
>>> criticize ANOTHER for some reason, and that someone has used that same
>>> criticism in the same way in HIS COMMENTS. For example... if your
>>> friend mxsmanic criticized another member of this group for using a
>>> particular method and mxsmanic was also known for using that same
>>> particular method, you, as a third party, would jump in and respond to
>>> mxsmanic with "pot.... kettle...black." But in using it as a second
>>> party, directed at me, your implication is that I am using the same
>>> method as YOU... which simply shows that you believe you are the
>>> original "pot... "
>>>
>>
> [1] see bottom of post.
>
>>Oh I do sir.
>
> So you admit you're the "pot." Finally!!! The penny drops.
So you admit you're the "pot."
No, sir. However, I do believe that you are smoking it presently.
>
>> I would hate to miss any of your detritus, sir.
>
> Heh... I believe you actually looked at a dictionary. We're having a
> breakthrough. Now if you could just understand that "prejudice"
> is NOT a "static" word. To call it such is meaningless, and just
> more of your ritual scatophagous mindless drivel.
>
"Heh... I believe you actually looked at a dictionary"
When one is learning a language, it is useful to browse a dictionary of that
language sir. It is a practice that I reccomend you try.
<snip Mr PV wild desperate flailing>
>>>>> " What is the theoretical electromagnetic resonant frequency in Hz of
>>>>> a 20 cm quarter-wave-length transmission line, presuming the velocity
>>>>> of light is exactly 300,000,000 meters/per second, and no other
>>>>> factors affect this resonant frequency?"
>>>>
>>>>The speed of light is 299,792,458 meters per second, not 300,000,000
>>>>meters/per second, sir. Some people round it to that and when
>>>>determining
>>>>f in megacycles set C to 300 but they lose accuracy.
>>>
>>> Heh... in other words... you fucked it up. Thanks for that.
>>
>>No sir. You were the one whom "fucked up" lightspeed, sir.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>
Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar, sir.
> No, sport.. you were the one whom (sic) fucked up the examination.
> Don't blame me for your illiteracy.
"No, sport.. you were the one whom (sic) fucked up the examination"
There was no examination, sir.
"Don't blame me for your illiteracy"
Numeracy, my dear fellow; not literacy.
>
>>>>The formula for resonanct is f=c/lamda in Cs dear sir of if you are
>>>>contructiing a coaxial antenna (unlikely on the frequency you have
>>>>chosen)
>>>>then the formula is f=(c/lamda)*v
>>>
>>> Yada... yada... yada... you're only trying to bury your ignorance in
>>> a flood of irrelevant commentary.
>>
>>http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-knee-jerk-reaction.htm
>
> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/psychotic
You are indeed, sir.
>
>>>>Where c is the speed of light, lamda is wavelength, and v is velocity
>>>>factor.
>>>
>>> Yada... yada... yada... you're only trying to bury your ignorance in
>>> a flood of irrelevant commentary.
>>>
>>
>>No, sir. I have just explained the formula to you. You are ignorant of it.
>>How curious.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>
There was no denial sir. Your confusion is increasing.
> You did not understand the problem. You ADMITTED you initially had it
> wrong.
Yes, sir. I spotted my mistake and corrected it. You got your problem wrong;
you have yet to spot it, admit it or correct it. Such illustrates your lack
of wisdom. How old did you day you are?
<snip>
>>So why is it that you cannot follow it when I explained it to you?
>
> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/psychotic
Because your psychotic, sir? Admitting it is the first step, dear fellow
>
>>> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>>>>
>>>>Yes sir. The answer was wrong.
>>>
>>> And there it is, folks. I rest my case.
>>
>>Yes, sir. Noticing your own mistakes is a virtue of wisdom and gives rise
>>to
>>learning from them. These are qualities you are proven to lack.
>
> Yet, above... you said -- "No sir. You were the one whom (sic) "fucked
> up" lightspeed, sir." That argues that you got the problem "right,"
> but you ADMITTED that you didn't, so you're again proven to be a liar.
>
""No sir. You were the one whom (sic) "fucked
> up" lightspeed, sir."
You did, sir. you claimed it was 300,000,000 M/s.
>>>>It occurred to me a few minutes after I
>>>>posted and while making tea that I calculated the quarter waves
>>>>backwards
>>>>and that i didn't actually need to calculate them at all as all you
>>>>asked
>>>>for was the "resonant frequency"(Sic) of the antenna. but had as you
>>>>could see from my follow up post, I corrected it and came up with the
>>>>right answer. Of course I expect you to protest most strongly that you
>>>>did not
>>>>see my follow up post. Now sir, we shall see how you handled my
>>>>particular
>>>>problem.
>>>
>>> Yada, yada, yada. Do you know how much credit they give you
>>> for knowing the answer AFTER you turn in your examination paper???
>>> Jack-shit!!!
>>
>>There was no examination paper, dear sir. As I sad previously, the answer
>>was not seen by anyone whose opinions matter. However, it is obvious you
>>did
>>not read the corrected version or had you know what it is you are talking
>>about you would have observed that I once again neglected to take into
>>account the inverse relationship between frequency and wavelength on the
>>quarter waves.
>
> TRANSLATION: "There was no examination paper, dear sir. As I sad
> previously, the answer was not seen by anyone whose opinions matter.
> However, it is obvious you did not read the corrected version or had you
> know what it is you are talking about you would have observed that I once
> again neglected to take into account the inverse relationship between
> frequency and wavelength on the quarter waves."
>
>>My antenna theory is rusty.
>
> That's strange.. that tin hat you wear on your head to receive
> reception from the one you call "something higher than ourselves,"
> seems to be tuned in properly. Have you tried adding more tin
> foil in a zig-zag pattern... or perhaps praying to your _cockroach
> God_?
>
"That's strange"
That you didn't spot my quarter wave mistake or pinpoint where my first
mistake was wrong? Yes sir. That is very strange.
>>I have built one in a while. What
>>about you, sir? When did you last build one?
>
> LOL..." I have built one in a while," too. You ignorant child. Are
> you also this stupid in your mother tongue? Don't lie now.
I shall take that as a "Never". shall I ,sir.
<snip>
>>>>> BTW -- Cs is not the correct use to reference "cycles per second." See
>>>>
>>>>Cs is a perfectly acceptable term, sir. some use C/s and some prefer C/t
>>>>or C/(T60)
>>>
>>> Rubbish. Hz is the ONLY acceptable term as the SI unit of frequency.
>>> See -
>>> http://www.bipm.org/en/si/si_brochure/chapter5/5-2.html
>>> This is the official unit names established by the "Bureau
>>> International des Poids et Mesures." The International System
>>> of Units - le Système international d'unités. And is recognized
>>> nearly globally, and accepted as the recognized System of Units
>>> used in both the U.K. and the Netherlands. See --
>>> http://www.bipm.org/en/si/si_brochure/general.html
>>>
>>
> [1] see bottom of post.
>>
>>You're Wrong, sir. You don't have the authority to tell anyone else what
>>notation to use.
>
> I'm not the authority. I'm the messenger. The authority is the
> Bureau International des Poids et Mesures. The International System
> of Units - le Système international d'unités. Please don't try to
> claim that you've now tuned in your tin hat, and "something
> higher than ourselves," has told you that you are a messenger from
> God... and God know more than The bureau International des Poids et
> Mesures." The International System of Units - le Système
> international d'unités.
>
"I'm not the authority. I'm the messenger"
You are neither, sir.
> Apparently you make up your own rules and insist that no one can
> question your rules or nullify your "rules" because you get and give
> your orders directly from "something higher than ourselves," who you
> probably imagine is a cockroach in flowing ermine with a halo
> over its head. And you insist that because of that no human
> entity regardless of how highly qualified can show disagreement
> with your pathetically cryptic "rules" known only to you, in your
> belief in your God-complex.
>
>>> I don't have the slightest idea where you came up with Cs, since doing
>>> a Google search of Cs, comes up with everything like "Credit Suisse
>>> Group," and other organizations using that acronym. When I do
>>> a Google search on - Cs "cycles per second" - I still find nothing.
>>> There are a few that use C/S ( C slash S)... but no organization or
>>> academy uses that or Cs, that I know of. In any case, the U.K. and
>>> the Netherlands accept the official name of Hz, as "cycles per
>>> second."
>>>
>>
>>You should read your books sir. You should find such an expression there.
>>Perhaps your books are exclusively for show.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
There was no denial sir. Perhaps you should have your computer looked at or
maybe your head or maybe both.
>
> TRANSLATION: "You should read your books sir. You should find such an
> expression there.
>>Perhaps your books are exclusively for show.."
>
> I've looked in all my books, and I can't find any such recognized
> expression for "cycles per second." Perhaps you should look in your
> one book... that Bible that you keep thumping on... maybe it's in
> there.
>
"I've looked in all my books,"
You have read them all in this small time, sir?
>>
>>You haven't answered the problem I gave you, yet.
>
> Nor have you. I could give you a multitude of problems that you
> could not even attempt to solve, sport.
>
"Nor have you. "
Yes I have, sir. I am still waiting for your solution if you can offer one.
"I've looked in all my books"
Then you should find the answer in them, sir.
> I'm not here to pander to your ignorance.
Nor I to yours, sir.
>
>>> As to your problem, I have hardly ever involved myself with db
>>> loss or gain, although the formulas in log are readily available
>>> to those interested in such things. I'm certainly aware of how
>>> to compute capacitive reactance which is trivial, and in your
>>> argument --
>>>
>>> R = 3.183 x 10^4 Ohms = 31.83 K Ohms
>>>
>>> c = 10^-9 Farads
>>>
>>> f = 500 Hz
>>>
>>> thus -
>>>
>>> Xc = 1/(2 x [pi] x f x c) = 1/(2 x 2.14 x 500 x 10^-9 Ohms)
>>
>>Xc=1/w(omega)c sir but it equates to the same thing.
>>>
>>> thus reducing --
>>>
>>> Xc= 3.183 x 10^5 ohms = 318.3 K Ohms
>>>
>>318.310K to be more accurate, sir but you are doing very well
>
> Heh... you idiot. That is only LESS accurate. Your original data
> gave R = 3.183... you cannot invent that 318310, as presumable
> "more accurate" than your original number. Your entire problem
> is limited to 3.183, which is four significant digits. Offering
> a claim that "318.31..." is "more accurate" is a crock of shit,
> since it implies five digits of accuracy.
Temper, temper. If you cannot handle the problem you should ask for help. PI
has more than 5 digits of accuracy, sir.
>
> 3.183 is the LIMIT of accuracy in your entire problem. You
> can't INVENT greater accuracy than those four significant digits.
> And in any case, the number 3.183000000001 is "more
> accurate" than your invention if one wants to get closer to
> the limit of the original number than you've come up with.
> You do know about "limits," I would hope... futilely hope
> that is.
>
Wrong, sir. Carry on
> And you claim an ability to compute numbers, yet screw up
> the most basic of all mathematical principles... that values
> cannot be obtained having greater significance than the
> significant digits within the mathematical computation.
> Whenever you make a measurement, that measurement
> is only as precise as the original significant digits being
> computed.
>
" And you claim an ability to compute numbers"
I made no such claim, sir.
> Chee... that's stuff you learn in the 7th grade, or earlier.
Is that the last time you had any education, sir?
>
>>> and --
>>>
>>> cutoff frequency = 1/(2 x [pi] x R x c) = 1/(2 x 2.14 x 3.183 x 10^4
>>> x 10^-9) Hz
>>>
>>> thus reducing --
>>>
>>> cutoff frequency = 5 x 10^3 Hz = 5 KHz
>>>
>>> at cutoff frequency Xc = R = 3.183 x10^4 ohms = 31.83 K Ohms
>>>
>>> cutoff frequency = -3 db
>>
>>The question did not ask for the cutoff frequency or the db loss at cut of
>>frequency. it Asked for the db loss and phase angled at 500 Cs, sir.
>
> Oh, gee... I must have not RTFQ. I like to solve practical
> problems, and knowing the cutoff frequency is more important
> than the parameters you asked about.
>
"I must have not RTFQ"
Indeed, sir.
>>> At the cutoff frequency the phase angle is 45 degrees
>>>
>>> I dealt in digital data... data loss and db loss are two different
>>> things. In transmitting digital data the db line loss is irrelevant
>>> except for a highly degraded line loss or a total line loss. Digital
>>> data has various redundancies such as parity checks and hamming
>>> code in both horizontal, vertical and in total bit count per message.
>>> Plus military traffic is always routed through secure communication
>>> centers processing both unclassified and the highest classification
>>> military traffic uses. These communication centers use a "red" -
>>> "black" concept, where all traffic comes in as "black" fully
>>> encrypted, and passes through decryption machine within this
>>> secure, and highly shielded from electronic leakage. communication
>>> center. After decryption the traffic is called "red," and highly
>>> classified messages are now in the clear, but remain in the
>>> communications center while they are in the "red." The communication
>>> center then processes, and saves the traffic in what are called
>>> ledgers, and journals on high density media, then routes the
>>> traffic to the destination (s), and sends it back to the on-site
>>> crypto center for encryption again before exiting the communication
>>> center as "black" traffic, encrypted again to the final destination.
>>>
>>> Your lesson for the day.
>>
>>That you should read the question, sir.
>
> That you're an idiot. I already knew that.
No, sir. You've proven, you are the idiot.
>
>>"Given you have a low pass filter with a resistor of 31830 ohms, and a
>>capacitor of 1 Nano Farad. at frequency of 500 Cs what is the DB loss and
>>the phase angle? You will have to work out the reactance first, sir."
>>
>>You have had your first attempt sir and you did not answer the question.In
>>your own words. " Do you know how much credit they give you for knowing
>>the
>>answer AFTER you turn in your examination paper??? Jack-shit!!! "
>
> And when can I expect even an attempt by you to solve this problem?
>
> Find the steady-state temperature distribution in the half-space z > 0
> if the temperature distribution u(r,0) = F(r) is maintained on the
> bounding plane face z = 0. Assume that F(r) satisfies the conditions
> for the existence of its Hankel transform [1]. Show your work.
> Your answer should be in the form of u(r,z) = ????
You still have not answered your problem, sir.
>
> Not only can you not solve it... you don't have the slightest idea
> what it even MEANS. You cannot even derive the first step necessary
> to solve that problem. I suspect you're frantically looking all over
> the Internet for something to give you a hint.
>
"Not only can you not solve it"
A guess, sir.
>>
>>Nonsense, sir. Ohms law applies electricity, whether it is DC or AC is
>>irrelevent. As AC is contantly in flux then that has to be taken into
>>account so impedence and phase angle are calculated.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
There was no denial sir. There was only your apology of a response.
>
> I keep proving my arguments and you keep claiming that God talks to
> you and gives you another story. Need I remind you that an assertion
> lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible?
" I keep proving my arguments "
You have never proved any, sir.
>
> Ohm's law does not involve itself with AC. Once again.. See..
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohm's_law
> That's my referenced cite. And the quote remains the same.
Yes it does, sir.
>
>>> Quoting -- "When reactive elements such as capacitors, inductors, or
>>> transmission lines are involved in a circuit to which AC or
>>> time-varying voltage or current is applied, the relationship between
>>> voltage and current becomes the solution to a differential equation,
>>> so Ohm's law (as defined above) does not directly apply since that
>>> form contains only resistances having value R, not complex impedances
>>> which may contain capacitance ("C") or inductance ("L")."
>
> Here are more cites --
> http://www.the12volt.com/ohm/ohmslaw.asp
> and --
> http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_2/1.html
> and --
> http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/ohmlaw.html
> and --
> http://www.angelfire.com/pa/baconbacon/page2.html
> and --
> http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/ohmslaw.htm
> and -
> http://www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResources/HighSchool/Electricity/ohmslaw.htm
> and --
> http://www.purchon.com/physics/ohmslaw.htm
> and --
> http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/k-12/Sample_Projects/Ohms_Law/ohmslaw.html
> That one's from NASA, and there is no mention of AC. Chee... but you
> are hard headed.
>
> None of them mention AC.
Perhaps you should read your books, sir.
You are an idiot, sir. What do you suppose you use to calculate the current
through an ac circuit of the voltage across its capacitors or inductors?
The Black arts? To calculate current, The formula is I=E/Z and to calculate
the voltage across an inductor or capacitor the formula is Vl=I*XL and Vc =
I*XC respectively.
>
>>>>> Kirchoff's law is applicable with AC circuits.
>>>>
>>>>Of course it does, sir. It also applies to DC circuits,
>>>
>>> Of course it does... but just because A implies B + C, does not mean D
>>> implies B + C. Kirchoff's Law provides solutions using differential
>>> equations. Ohm's Law does not. Kirchoff's Law defines the electric
>>> potential as a line integral. Thus introducing Integration in the
>>> calculus.
>>>
>>
> [1] see bottom of post.
>
>>Then we agree on something, sir.
>
> I never implied that Kirchoff's law did not apply to both AC and DC.
I made no claim that you did, sir.
> AC circuits are much more complicated than DC circuits. Computing
> instantaneous resistance and impedance in AC circuits requires
> satisfying differential equations. You couldn't solve even the
> easiest of differential equations.
>
"AC circuits are much more complicated than DC circuits"
That is something else, we agree on, sir.
"You couldn't solve even the easiest of differential equations."
You are guessing, sir.
> Kirchoff's law examines "nodes." Because the sum of the current
> flowing into any node must equal the sum of the current flowing out of
> any node. Both in steady DC and in instantaneous AC current, which
> changes depending upon the frequency and other factors, but always
> remains instantaneously the sum of the current flowing into that node
> equaling the sum of the current flowing out of that node.
You should reference a text you copy information from or it's plagiarism,
sir.
> That's exactly what I wrote, shit-for-brains. Other than I use
> 2.14159... an approximation for pi. Here it is again --
No, sir you wrote.
">>> Knowing the phase angle makes it trivial to convert to radians, son.
>>> rad = degrees x (2.14159... /180)
>>>
>>> 30° = pi/6
>>> 45° = pi/4
>>> 60° = pi/3
>>> 90° = pi/2
>>> 120° = 2(pi)/3
>>> 150° = 5(pi)/6
>>> 180° = pi
>>> 210° = 7(pi)/6
>>> 240° = 4(pi)/3
>>> 270° = 3(pi)/2
>>> 360° = 2(pi)
>>>
"
>
> rad = degrees x (2.14159... /180)
>
> See it right above the list of various radians at degrees?
the formula for converting degrees to radians is Radians=degrees*pi/180,
sir. That is not what you wrote.
>
>>>>> Your trouble is that you confuse your subjective views with objective
>>>>> facts. No matter how hard you try... they are not the same. There
>>>>> is no possibility whatsoever of "something higher than ourselves,"
>>>>> actually being an "object" that we can examine and agree upon what
>>>>> that object is. Just as there is no possibility whatsoever of
>>>>> "prejudice" actually being an "object" that we can examine and agree
>>>>> upon what that object is.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Your feeble attempt to avoide the problem posed has been noted, sir.
>>>>
>>> Now that I've made my "feeble attempt"... just try to answer mine
>>> using a feeble attempt. We're not examining my expertise in low-pass
>>> filters, and db. I've been retired longer than you've been living.
>>> We're examining YOUR expertise, since you're the one blowing your horn
>>> about --
>>>
>>
"I've been retired longer than you've been living."
You're guessing, sir.
> [1] see bottom of post.
>>
>>It was feeble sir. You got as far as working out the capacitive reactance.
>>then you went off at a tangent.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
There was no denial, sir. You mucked it up.
>>
>>> "I'll bet you don't know what bayes theorum, linear regression mean,
>>> and I suspect you do not know the magic number in the plume encryption
>>> algorythm."
>>>
>>
>>That's Bayes' theorum, sir. Please give the fellow the respect he
>>deserves.
>>"Bayes' theorum" calculated probabiliters and thier counter effects and
>>linear regression calculates the line of best fit. Of course you know
>>standard deviation and Binomial distribution.
>
> You idiot. I was quoting YOU... and your hysterical need to appear
> knowledgeable when you're not. You didn't capitalize it, you didn't
> give it a possessive sense, and you misspelled "theorem." All in
> all you screwed it up pretty badly. You are incapable of reading and
> understanding the English language. Look at my comment containing
> ">>" and forget about you jumping in. My comment read --
>
" knowledgeable when you're not"
You're guessing, sir.
" All in
> all you screwed it up pretty badly. "
It that is what you call screwing up pretty badly then you need a life sir.
Typographical errors are only a bad screwing when you are writing a paper on
English language sir. On newsgroups it's minor at worst and only used as
ammunition for imbeciles like you whom can't win their arguments any other
way. I am still waiting for your answer to the very SIMPLE problem I gave
you.
> "We're examining YOUR expertise, since you're the one blowing your
> horn about --
>
> "I'll bet you don't know what bayes theorum, linear regression mean,
> and I suspect you do not know the magic number in the plume encryption
> algorythm."
>
> See the quotation marks, shit-for-brains?? What makes you think I'd
> be as dumb as you and not know how to spell "theorem," and
> "algorithm"?
>
> There has seldom been a poster to AADP who is more in need of a spell
> checker than you, Sir shit-for-brains.
>
As I said, sir, "Typographical errors are only a bad screwing when you are
writing a paper on English language sir. On newsgroups it's minor at worst
and only used as ammunition for imbeciles like you whom can't win their
arguments any other way".
Perhaps you should invest in a Thesaurus, sir.
>>> Not even capable of spelling algorithm correctly. Not even capable
>>> of spelling "theorem," correctly. The two prime arguments in your
>>> entire sentence. If you look below you will see your comment has
>>> seven ">" in front of it, signifying that you began this thumping your
>>> chest, yet your knuckles still drag on the ground when you walk.
>>> While it's obscene that you dare to mention Bayes' Theorem,
>>> considering how seldom you show the slightest knowledge of
>>> what inductive logic even is.
>
> Heh... the penny drops... And Death Disco is speechless.
Wishful thinking on your part, sir.
>>>
>>> Now either answer my question, since you never did answer my first
>>> question correctly, having turned in your answer before "reading the
>>> fucking question." If you can't then shut the fuck about your
>>> superiority and address your holocaust denial, your racism, your
>>> belief that you hear voices from "something higher than ourselves,"
>>> and your belief that six million and one cockroaches are "superior"
>>> to six million innocent Jews.
>>>
>>
> [1] see bottom of post.
>>
>>Yes I did, sir.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
That wasn't denial sir.
Perhaps you should invest in a Thesaurus, sir.
>
> No you didn't.
Yes I did, sir.
>
>>> If that question was too complicated for you I'll give you an easier
>>> one. Since you seem to claim familiarity with differential
>>> equations... solve this one. Understand that this is the EASIEST
>>> of all differential equation to solve, and is used over and over in
>>> solving motion equations related to gravitation -- This one should
>>> be a snap for you --
>>>
>>> Solve the differential equation d²x/dt² = -g
>>>
>>> With initial conditions x(0) = x(sub o) and v(0) = v(sub o)
>
> Heh.. got you going, eh? Gee... my boy... this solution is probably
> all over the net. It's a very general differential equation with no
> numbers involved... those numbers which always confuse you.
>
"Heh.. got you going, eh?"
Wishful thinking on your part, sir.
You still have not answered your problem, sir. I have noted your repeated
efforts to avoid it.
>>Given you have a closed cylinder with a volume of 1050 cm^3 use
>>integration
>>and tranposition to get the maxumum surface area from the minimum material
>>used.
>
> "tranposition" (sic)??? "maxumum" (sic)???
I also said integration when I should have said differentiation.
As I said, sir, "Typographical errors are only a bad screwing when you are
writing a paper on English language sir. On newsgroups it's minor at worst
and only used as ammunition for imbeciles like you whom can't win their
arguments any other way".
>
> You can't even pose your questions accurately. But let's take a quick
> stab at it --
"You can't even pose your questions accurately"
Yes I can, sir. We shall see what your answer brings.
>
> V=pi*R²*H = 1050 cm³
>
> with R being the radius and H being the height
>
> so H = 1050/(pi)*R²
>
> The surface area, including ends is --
>
> S=2*(pi)R*H + 2*(pi)*R²
>
> Substituting for H --
>
> S=2*1050/R + 2*(pi)*R²
>
> Setting dS/dR = 0 and solving the differential equation for R the
> answer is (V/2*(pi))^1/3 = R
>
> Reducing --> R=(1050/2*(pi))^1/3 = 5.508 cm
>
> Now that we have R, we can solve for H
>
> H=1050/(pi*)*R² = 11.017 cm
>
> Thus the closed cylinder has maximum surface area using minimum
> material at :
>
> Radius = 5.508 cm
> Height = 11.017 cm
>
> V = (pi)*5.508²*11.017 = 1050 cm³
>
Impressive, sir. Your answer is correct.I shall assume it's your own work.
>
>>Given a three phase unbalanced supply, VL=400V, Z1=30,Z2=50 and Z3=40 ohm,
>>calculate phase voltage, Each line current and the power dissapated
>>across
>>each line, sir.
>
> I don't have time for you to throw silly problem after problem at me,
> when you can't solve a very simple differential equation.
You're guessing sir.
>I can
> certainly throw problems at you that you have no idea how to even
> approach. Just how simple do you expect the problems I offer must be?
> Perhaps a little bit of algebra is the limit of your education? Beyes'
> Theorem, my ass.
" certainly throw problems at you that you have no idea how to even
> approach"
No, you cannot sir. Not when you failed to answer the simple DB problem I
gave you earlier.
"Given you have a low pass filter with a resistor of 31830 ohms, and a
capacitor of 1 Nano Farad. at frequency of 500 Cs what is the DB loss and
the phase angle? You will have to work out the reactance first, sir."
>
> Once again -- how do you even APPROACH a solution to --
>
> Finding the steady-state temperature distribution in the half-space z
>> 0 if the temperature distribution u(r,0) = F(r) is maintained on the
> bounding plane face z = 0. Assume that F(r) satisfies the conditions
> for the existence of its Hankel transform [1]. Show your work.
> Your answer should be in the form of u(r,z) = ????
>
> Come on, smart-ass, what's the FIRST STEP in trying to solve
> this problem?
>
Once again, "Given you have a low pass filter with a resistor of 31830 ohms,
and a capacitor of 1 Nano Farad. at frequency of 500 Cs what is the DB loss
and the phase angle? You will have to work out the reactance first, sir."
"
> So there is no need to throw simple problems at me to cover up your
> own ignorance. Differential equations like the one I offered should
> be a snap for you. In fact I'm sure you could find the answer on the
> Internet.
>
"So there is no need to throw simple problems at me to cover up your
> own ignorance"
Problems you cannot solve, sir. You've only managed one and it wasn't an
electrical engineering problem sir. That sort of exposes your own
ignorance, sir.
> While the problem of finding the steady-state temperature distribution
> in the half-space z >0, with the parameters given is a more difficult
> problem that you will not find on the Internet. I don't believe even
> Earl could solve it. I admit that I couldn't without a _cheat sheet_.
>
It's hardly a "simple" problem then, sir.
> But I can "understand" the solution in going through that _cheat
> sheet_. I'm quite sure that you couldn't.
You're guessing, sir.
>I'll even you a hint --
> From reading the problem it is clear that the temperature "u" is
> independent of the polar angle theta. So we can set our initial
> parameters in the form of a differential equation set to zero.
> What is that differential equation? I don't even ask you to solve
> it. Just explain it in English. No need to show Jacobi delta partial
> derivative notation, since it is not a standard text character. Just
> explain how you would construct that partial differential that you
> would want to set to zero.
>
Provide me with the references and sources you used and I shall see if I can
figure it out but it doesn't read like an electrical engineering problem. It
reads like a physics problem.
>>> However, I have yet to see a single word from you that makes me
>>> believe you have received a proper education in the arts, and
>>> humanities. I have no idea of your natural given intelligence but it
>>> is obvious to me that your nurturing has been greatly injured. I have
>>> seldom met anyone with a mind that is so closed as yours is. The test
>>> of a man's intellect is that he finds pleasure in the exercise of his
>>> mind. Yours hasn't even been out for a walk in a very long time.
>>> Apparently it is too small and narrow-minded to be let out by itself.
>>>
>>
>>"We'll work our way down until we find your level of knowledge"
>>
>>We have already found yours, sir.
>
> Which is far above what we've found with yours.
A curious statement as you have managed to answer only one problem I posed
for you.
<snip>
>>>
>>> Remember... when you point your finger at me, in "calling the kettle
>>> black," there are three fingers on that same hand pointing right back
>>> at you, sport.
>>>
As I said before, sir. They are pointing directly at you.
>>
>>http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrite
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorance
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrite
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
>
> Perhaps verbal pictures are too complicated for you, sonny. But this
> group is text only. So picture this as your hand pointing at me
> in respect to "pot... kettle..." and examine it. See --
> http://tinyurl.com/2vwejyl
"Perhaps verbal pictures are too complicated for you, sonny"
Basic electrical principles are too complicated for you, evidently sir.
>
>>>>I was answering your debate, sir.
>>>
>>> You're guessing that I'm guessing... which makes your guess nothing
>>> but hot air.
>>>
>>
>>No, sir. You have no basis to back up your assertions, so they can only be
>>guesses.
>
> An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
Exactly my point, sir. As I said, "You have no basis to back up your
assertions, so they can only be guesses"
>
>>>>It was not a cite, sir, so no reference is required.
>>>
>>> "Your unreferenced site (sic) is inadmissable (sic)"
>>
>>The word is "cite", sir.
>
> That's why I followed it with a (sic), you moron. See --
> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/sic
> Quote -- "Used to indicate that a quoted passage, especially one
> containing an error or unconventional spelling, has been retained in
> its original form or written intentionally."
>
"That's why I followed it with a (sic), "
Which was incorrectly placed sir.
> Keep in mind that YOU originally misspelled both
> "cite" and "inadmissible" in your original comment as
> shown. I'm just showing your inability to spell check your
> comments, when they desperately need spell checking. See --
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/735c577f27d0b75f
> Look for it down at the bottom of your own message,
> shit-for-brains.
>
"Keep in mind that YOU originally misspelled both "cite""
No Didn't sir.
> You know there are FREE spell-checkers available on
> the Internet. You should use one. Just search Google
> for "free spell checker."
As I said, sir, "Typographical errors are only a bad screwing when you are
writing a paper on English language sir. On newsgroups it's minor at worst
and only used as ammunition for imbeciles like you whom can't win their
arguments any other way".
Perhaps you should invest in a Thesaurus, sir.
>
>>
>>No I don't sir. Wait a can hear your voice now. It's a high pitched
>>meaningless whine.
>
> No... that's the sound of those cockroaches that you protect from
> being "murdered" (sic). ROTFLMAO. Death Disco --> AADP's
> cockroach protector. Won't let anything harm his "poor
> innocent cockroach," insisting that killing a cockroach is defined
> as "murder" to him.
>
"No"
It's definately your voice, sir.
> In any case, your argument when put into logical terms is "x is
> something higher than ourselves." and "x is an unknown." But
> you know that "x is something higher than ourselves," So
> "x is not unknown to Death Disco." qed -- Death Disco claims to
> "know the unknown."
Nonsense, dear fellow. It is unknown therefor I cannot know it.
Simple logic, sir.
>>>>> Quite right... so why do you keep claiming cites without references,
>>>>> shit-for-brains?
>>>>
>>>>I don't, sir.
>>>
>>> You did so just above, shit-for-brains.
>>
>>No I didn't, sir.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar, sir.
>
> Yes, you did, shit-for-brains. Of course you did. Your words are
> still shown above.. The words "You change them, sir." That's an
> unfounded accusation, and an assertion lacking a referenced cite
> is inadmissible. Why do you continue to lie? Are you simply a
> pathological liar, are you simply stupid, or what is the reason
> you need to lie?
>
"Yes, you did".
No I didn't, sir.
>>>>
>>>>No you don't, sir.
>>>
>>> Yes, I do. You most certainly insisted there is this "right to life"
>>> for all biological life, especially cockroaches." And you insisted
>>> that you KNOW this because of "something higher than ourselves."
>>> Which you insist is an UNKNOWN. Yet you argue that you do
>>> know it, otherwise how would you have come into that information
>>> from the one you claim gave that very "right to life to cockroaches"?
>>> It's simple logic... you're the one who argued it exists. You're the
>>> who argued it comes from "something higher than ourselves."
>>> Well how can you have come into that information about a "right
>>> to life for cockroaches" if you did not heard it from the very person
>>> you claim is responsible for it? Who told you if not that "something
>>> higher than ourselves"? Does "it" have special "angels" that talk to
>>> you, passing you messages second-hand from "something higher than
>>> ourselves"? Further you said it is an "unknown." Well, how the hell
>>> do you know of it, if it's an "unknown"?
>>>
>>
>>"Yes, I do."
>>
>>No you don't, sir.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar, sir.
>
> Answer the question. Given that there is proof that you claim to know
> of "something higher than ourselves," and you claim that it is an
> "unknown," how do you know it is "something higher than ourselves,"
> if it is "unknown"? You argue along the lines of A = 5, but A =
> "unknown," except YOU know that A =5.
>
"Given that there is proof that you claim to know of "something higher than
ourselves,"
No I don't sir.
>>> Obviously you've just piled lie upon lie upon lie. And now even deny
>>> you wrote it... but I have the evidence. See --
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/fc1729e6f9101be5
>>> Here it is, sport... your words enshrined forever in Google. Proof
>>> that you stated -- "We do not have the to (sic) say who has the right
>>> to life. That honour is strictly owned by something higher than
>>> ourselves." And when I asked how you came about this information
>>> in my words -- "Who would that be?" You responded in one word -
>>> "Unknown." See --
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/92a6b831782818bf
>>>
>>
>>Really sir; if you cannot win an argument without lying then you should
>>not
>>be allowed to play.
>
> [2] see bottom of post. While it is "play" rather than any need to
> put any effort into it to grind your paedomorphic arguments to dust.
That explains why you keep losing, sir.
<snip>
>>" If it's "unknown," sport... how do you KNOW it?"
>>
>>I do not, sir.
>
> Ah, but you said it is "something higher than ourselves." How
> do you know there is "something" and how do you know whether
> that imaginary "something" is "higher" or "lower" than
> ourselves? If it's an "unknown" you can't possibly know
> that it is "something," or "higher or lower than ourselves."
"How do you know there is "something" "
I do not, sir. It is unknown.
>
>> If I did then it wouldn't be unknown therefore it would be
>>known but it's unknown. Am I going too fast for you, sir?
>
> Shit, son... you drove off the track days ago. You certainly
> insisted it was "known" to you as "something higher than
> ourselves." Was "it" in the shape of an Easter Bunny, or Santa
> Claus, or the Tooth Fairy? Did "it" have a big halo on its
> head? Was "it" thumping the Bible in tune with your thumping?
> Did "it" have the body of a cockroach and the head of bin Laden?
> The world wants to know... and only you claim to "know."
"Shit, son"
I shall take that as a yes.
>>>>No, sir. The BRITISH word is "Mummy". "Mommy" is not used here. I know
>>>>because I live here, sir. You do not, sir.
>>>
>>> I don't give a rat's ass that you live in the U.K. I live in the
>>> U.S., and if I want to use words that are from the U.S. you'll
>>> just have to suck it up like a man. Now address the issue of
>>> your xenophobia, which is showing in your claim that I have
>>> to use YOUR particular wording... when you can't even spell!!
>>>
>>
> [1] see bottom of post.
>
>>That is irrelevant, sir. You only know American English (sic), sir.
>
> Hey.. you finally tried to use a (sic). I'm impressed.
> But you still haven't grasped the idea behind it because
> "American English" is spoken by as many English speaking
> humans, as is "U.K. English."
>
"Hey.. you finally tried to use a (sic)."
You wrong again, sir. I did not try to use a '(sic)'; I used a (sic)
> Now if you could only learn and try to "remember" what you
> learn about the Holocaust.
I learn what a need about the holocaust from those who do "remember" it sir,
and not some anally retentive American who was nowhere near the "shit when
it hit the fan".
>
> There are relatively few changes in spelling between UK
> English and U.S. English, while both have their separate
> idioms and slang expressions. I'm familiar with just
> about all UK idioms and slang expressions, and sometimes
> I even use them... but in the end I'm American... and
> you are xenophobic.
>
"There are relatively few changes in spelling between UK
> English and U.S. English"
> The argument that only the English spoken and written in the UK
> can be used in AADP, is simply another manifestation of your
> xenophobia. I prefer to use the English that I learned in my
> primary education. Why don't you do the same and disappear
> to a site where Tigrinya is the language used?
>
> It's tragicomic that someone like you, with such a feeble grasp of any
> form of the English language, should have the cheek to
> insist upon what one can or cannot offer in respect to the recognized
> English language in the U.S. I ignore a great deal of spelling
> errors and grammatical mistakes, except when one uses his own
> grammatical mistakes or spelling errors in either personally
> attacking me in ad hominem, or offering the most illogical
> arguments, or just outright lying.
>
Pot? Pot? This is kettle; colour check please.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/netdict/hypocrite
>>> This group was created by a poster now long gone named
>>> "Etan Ben-Ami" in 1993. He was a member of the "National
>>> Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty," and as far as I know
>>> was not European, since that coalition is based in Washington,
>>> D.C. There is no recognized body that has ruled that U.K.
>>> English is the only language permitted in AADP. Nonetheless,
>>> I don't correct you when you use the spelling of "honour," while in
>>> the U.S. it is spelled "honor." If you insist we use YOUR type of
>>> spelling that is xenophobia. I am open minded and you can
>>> use either U.K. English or U.S. English. I just wish you'd use
>>> it CORRECTLY!
>>>
>>
>>I do, sir. You are the fellow who repeatedly attempts to redefine words,
>>sir.
>
> Wrong, sport. I have your words -- "if i do not approve of a
> definition I simply choose not to use it." Now that's attempting
> to "redefine" words insisting that only YOUR definitions apply.
> And then you had the chutzpah to say in more of your double-speak --
> "The dictinary (sic) definition is just a string of words to you,
> apparently."
>
" I have your words "
Which you have proved on every occasion that you are incapable of
understanding, dear fellow.
> Apparently "dictinary" (sic) definitions are NOT EVEN "a string of
> words to you," since you admit you ignore definitions that expose your
> ignorance
Oh, dear sir. that's worthy of three. Those three are:.
As I said, sir, "Typographical errors are only a bad screwing when you are
writing a paper on English language sir. On newsgroups it's minor at worst
and only used as ammunition for imbeciles like you whom can't win their
arguments any other way".
Perhaps you should invest in a Thesaurus, sir.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrite
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
Really sir; if you cannot win an argument without lying then you should not
be allowed to play.
>
>>> However, let's again be frank... it would not matter if I did oppose
>>> the U.S. Death Penalty, since my argument with you is about your
>>> Holocaust denial, your racist comments and your underlying
>>> stupidity (which I hope is not genetic but rather a product of
>>> cruel and unusual nurturing).
>>
>>"my argument with you is about your Holocaust denial, "
>>
>>I have made no such denial, sir.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar, sir.
>
> Of course you have. Your words -- "You do not remember what is not in
> your memory and it is not in your memory if you did not experience or
> witness it first hand." And more of your words -- "You cannot forget
> or remember the extermination of 6 million jews (sic) unless you
> remember them." And more of your words -- "You cannot forget or
> remember the extermination of 6 million jews (sic) unless you remember
> them and to remember them you must have experienced them first hand."
> And then asserting as some kind of fact that the JEWS could
> "remember" the Holocaust -- "Only if they were there, dear fellow."
> Now that's insisting that OTHERS cannot "remember" the Holocaust,
> which is absolutely clear "Holocaust denial."
"Of course you have"
No I haven't, sir.
>
> Clearly arguments meant to insist that no one should remember the
> Holocaust unless they actually TOOK PART IN IT, as either a Nazi, or a
> Jew are meant to deny the Holocaust. I remember you also wrote in
> great hypocrisy -- "The events of that atroicity (sic) are long since
> over and those who commited (sic) them are also gone. Our best chance
> is to learn from it, but we won't." Well, shit, sport... How can we
> "learn from it," when you insist we cannot even "remember it"???
>
> Not since Janus have we seen a more two-faced poster to AADP than
> you are. And that's a looong time ago. After the Greeks... but I
> "remember" the Romans.
Your logic is erroneous, sir.
>
>>"your racist comments "
>>
>>I have made no racist comments, sir.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar, sir.
>
> Of course you have... Your words -- "There are no blacks," and
> your words " I've never met a person who has black skin," and
> your words "I've never met one because there aren't any." Denying
> there is a definition of a "Black" race, and hoping to challenge the
> fact that racism is used against that "Black" race. A race you insist
> does not exist, thus racism cannot exist against someone who
> is Black... because NO ONE is Black according to you. That's one of
> the more innovative attempts to challenge the argument that racism
> exists I've seen in some time.
"Of course you have"
No I haven't sir.
"There are no blacks,"
Is not racist, dear fellow.. Are you unable to distinguish brown from black,
sir? Are you colour blind or just a short sighted old fool?
>
> Others, knowing the English language far better than you, expressed
> astonishment at your comment. I do more than that... I call
> a spade a spade in AADP. And I have seldom found comments more
> racially offensive than dismissing an entire race of humans, as
> if they have no "real existence."
>
>>>
>>> Gee... how did you "remember" all that, given that you've stated --
>>> "You do not remember what is not in your memory and it is not in your
>>> memory if you did not experience or witness it first hand."
>>>
>>> You actually experienced or witnessed the Greeks??? You naughty boy,
>>> you!!!
>>>
>>
>>Remember what, sir? Are you still clutching at straws?
>>
> Well, you "remembered" there were the Greeks. But I like the way you
> refer to wikipedia, and then dismiss it as inaccurate when I refer to
> it. More of your two-faced arguments, accompanied by a juicy
> assortment of your lies.
>
"Well, you "remembered" there were the Greeks"
There still are Greeks, sir. You can find them in Greece.
>>>>An unreferenced cite is inadmissible
>>>
>>> Quite true... so why did you claim that you're a blockhead?
>>
>>I did not, sir.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar, sir.
>
> Now.... now... don't get angry... Of course you did. You recognized
> that I had clipped your words, and you accepted that I had, in the
> words I had offered, Sir Blockhead.
>
There are certainly involuntary muscle movements occuring sir. They are a
result of my laughter,
>>>>>
>>>>>>If you cannot argue without lying then you should not be allowed to
>>>>>>play
>>>>>>at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you keep offering cites without references, shit-for-brains?
>>>>
>>>>I do not, sir.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrite
>>>>
>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
>>>>
>>> ROTFLMAO... It's too late, sport... you already turned in your
>>> examination without offering cites or references. Trying to do
>>> it now... is locking the barn door after the cows have moved on.
>>>
>>
>>No I didn't sir.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar, sir.
>
> Yes, you did, sport... Here it is again... See --
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/71dc5a37c3ec1e13
>
No I did not, "sport".
> This comment of yours predates any correction you might have had
> after taking a piss. Notice in your comment you CHANGE the
> parameter given in the question. It doesn't matter that what you
> provided was the exact speed of light in a vacuum. It was a question
> in which calculators, and references were not permitted. If you had
> used pen and paper you would still be scratching your head in
> trying to figure it out, and guessing at the exact speed of light in
> a vacuum rather than RTFQ. Kids of today don't know how to add and
> subtract without a calculator. You go to a grocery store, and the
> bill is $3.50 and you give the teen-age cashier $5.50, and she looks
> like you're crazy because you gave her the $0.50 and it doesn't
> compute in her brain. She only knows how to enter something
> higher than the charge, and knows only that $5.00 is enough.
> She needs the register to do her arithmetic for her, and suspects
> you're trying to give her a tip.
>
" It was a question
> in which calculators, and references were not permitted"
My dear, good fellow; you do not have any authority to tell me what tools to
use to solve a problem. If I choose to use a calculator or a cite then or
even an abacus or even a Cray then that is my choice and you have no say in
the matter, sir.
>>> Remember... when you point your finger at me, in "calling the kettle
>>> black," there are three fingers on that same hand pointing right back
>>> at you, sport.
>>
>>No, dear fellow. They all point at you.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>
Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar, sir.
> You're the one pointing the finger at me with "pot... kettle...
> black," shit-for-brains. Wait... this is too complicated for you.
> Imagine that this is your hand... I hope this picture helps you...
> http://tinyurl.com/2vwejyl
"You're the one pointing the finger at me with "pot... kettle...
> black"
Fingers, sir. Plural.
> Check out those three fingers of YOUR hand.
I have a total of five digits on each hand and I am pointing them at you,
even the thumb.
<snip>
>>>>You believe in a god, sir?
>>>
>>> Is the word "if" (a conditional clause) too complicated for you? IF
>>> you were a bird you could fly. But you aren't a bird.
>>
"Is the word "if" (a conditional clause)"
Yes it is sir.
"IF you were a bird you could fly. But you aren't a bird"
I could fly in an aeroplane, sir.
>>I ended my comment with a question mark, sir. I was asking you a question.
>
> Well... I don't believe in a God. Certainly not one who figures that
> all biological life, down to viruses and mosquitoes must be given some
> "right to life." Nor do I consider cockroaches to be equal to human
> beings as you have insisted.
>
"I don't believe in a God"
You don't, sir? Then why do you keep asking it to strike me down?
<snip>
>>I have not killed anyone sir.
>
> So that's your excuse for the slaughter of the Tutsis in Africa????
You perceive that innocence is an excuse? Curious.
> The problem is you are two-faced. You accuse all Americans
> of being involved in killings elsewhere, while you ignore the
> genocide perpetrated by your own people.
>
"The problem is you are two-faced."
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrite
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
"while you ignore the genocide perpetrated by your own people"
My own people, sir? I believe that I never revealed who my people are.
>>>>>> In perspective, your people have had thier fair share
>>>>>>of bloodshed, sir.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you remember that? Did you experience the U.S 300 years ago?
>>>>
>>>>It's called "an education", sir.
>>>
>>> So you've never received an "education" about the Holocaust. And then
>>> you wonder why I pity the lack of nurturing you have received in
>>> your life
>>
>>I received much education about the holocaust, sir.
>
> Yet you insist you "remember" NOTHING. And charge everyone else
> with your diktat that _no one_ can remember unless they "experienced
> it first hand." That's not an "education," when you take a nap during
> lessons.
>
"Yet you insist you "remember" NOTHING"
I do remember nothing. I wasn't at the holocaust. I do remember much of my
education, however.
>>> See above... Be sure to ask the Pope to bless you for saving the lives
>>> of murderers... I understand he doesn't give a fuck about Blacks in
>>> Africa either.... just like you.
>>
>>I care not for the pope, sir.
>
> I don't believe you. You have ever right to deny it... but I have
> every right to not believe you. For all anyone knows, you may
> believe that he is that "something higher than ourselves," that
> you insist has given "the right to life to all biological life."
"I don't believe you"
That is your problem, sir.
>
>>>>> The 20th Century was the bloodiest century in human history. And
>>>>> that bloodshed was 99.99% the result of Europe's citizens inability
>>>>> to get along with each other.
>>>>
>>>>Whilest America sat back till the last minute then tried to claim they
>>>>saved everyone sir.
>>>
>>> Since when are we RESPONSIBLE for Europe??? When was the last time
>>> any nation in Europe helped us? I'll tell you when... when the French
>>> helped us 300 years ago, in their own interests to gain our
>>> independence. And we still "remember" it. While YOU can't even
>>> remember the Nazis in your Europe attempting the extermination of
>>> European Jewry. Six million murdered innocent Jews.. less than 70
>>> years ago... and you can't "remember," while you do remember the
>>> Crusades, and the "Greeks."
>>>
>>
> [1] see bottom of post.
>
>>You are not, sir but you persistently try to make Europe do things your
>>way.
>>If they do not, you have one of your so well known temper tantrums and
>>bomb
>>something.
>
> Wrong again... the only people interfering in the affairs of other
> states in respect to the death penalty is the EU trying to exert
> pressure on the U.S. in an internal matter. I don't know of
> any American having posted to AADP who gives a shit what
> the EU does with her murderers. I know I don't care! Yet the
> EU remains *profoundly silence* when it comes to condemning
> Islamic Sharia law, which stones women for adultery, and hangs
> those who are homosexuals.
>
"Wrong again"
Oh please, sir. Once cannnot watch the news without hearing about someone
your people bombed.
> While Europe continues to fancy Africa as part of her colonial
> empire, and will commit murder and genocide if doing so can
> maintain hegemony over the indigenous population and the
> mineral resources of Africa.
Your xenophobia is showing again, sir.
>
> We had war declared on us, and our sovereign territory invaded
> and taken over, when Iranians stormed our embassy and kept
> diplomatically protected American citizens as hostages. I
> would have had no problem with declaring war on Iran, and
> invading that country regardless of what might have happened
> to those hostages. Iran needed to be taught a harsh lesson
> about diplomatic immunity, and the sovereignty of embassies.
> Khomeini was the "supreme leader" of Iran, and his single
> comment of "release them," would have resulted in instant
> release... instead he supported the storming of that sovereign
> embassy, and taking those with diplomatic immunity into
> hostages. That was a clear act of war. And Europe stood
> silent, refusing to condemn Iran... because of a thing called
> "oil."
>
> As it was, our milksop president at the time, Jimmy Carter, instead
> wasted lives in a crude attempt to rescue those hostages which
> would not have been successful even if there was not that disaster
> with the helicopters. Don't tell me about doing things OUR way.
>
As I said, your country is as knee deep in blood as everyone else, sir.
>>>>> However, you've certainly left me ROTFLMAO.
>>>>
>>>>Puerile, sir.
>>>
>>> What I see
>>Are pretty clouds, people picking mushrooms, the world speaking American
>>English (sic), your nuclear weapons looming threateningly over the world's
>>populace sir and the electric chair warmed up, sir
>
> Apparently you're off your meds, Sir shit-for-brains.
Maybe I can borrow some of yours, sir.
> I notice that you used it as a reference in at least two places. These
> two --
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia
>
Yes, sir. You're the one whom likes showing off your book collection.
> In any case, if I were to cite any books in my library as a reference
> you would petulantly pout that it was an "unreferenced" (sic) cite.
> Thus, the only real references available are those on the Internet.
> Such as free dictionaries (which I've used to pummel your arguments
> into fine dust), and sources of information, one of which is
> wikipedia.
>
" In any case, if I were to cite any books in my library as a reference
> you would petulantly pout that it was an "unreferenced" (sic) cite."
You are welcome to do so, sir as long as you reference them correctly.
>>>>I'm
>>>>amazed. We shall see how long it takes you to catch up. Not long I'd
>>>>wager.
>>>>You seem to be invading everybody and you still have the barbaric death
>>>>penalty.
>>>
>>> And you still have the cursed genocide of close to a million innocent
>>> Tutsis brought by a European power who wants to maintain French
>>> hegemony in Africa. You know what Mitterand said about those
>>> million murdered innocent Tutsis... murdered with French complicity,
>>> providing arms to the Hutus... urging them to get on with the
>>> massacre??? He is quoted as saying -- "in such countries, genocide is
>>> not too important." Nice leaders you elect. You curse us for
>>> electing Bush, and it turns out that Mitterand was responsible for at
>>> least 20 times the deaths that Bush and Blair are responsible for.
>>> Every time I mention this... Europeans posting here suddenly turn
>>> deaf, dumb, and blind.
>>
>>"And you still have the cursed genocide of close to a million innocent
>>> Tutsis brought by a European power who wants to maintain French
>>> hegemony in Africa"
>>
>>No I don't sir.
>
> Yes... you do, Sir Double-Speak.
No I don't, sir.
>
>>>
>>>>> <fx: Death Disco stares wide eyed with open mouth gaping at proof of
>>>>> the long history of European hate for each other>
>>>>
>>>>Wishful thinking on your part, sir.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>
>>http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrite
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorance
>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>
Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar, sir.
<snip>
>>>>Are you getting angry sir?
>>>
>>> Yeah... when I see someone offer an insulting lie, it makes me angry
>>> and also full of pity for someone who needs to use lies and smears in
>>> methods so sneaky and smarmy. It reminds me OF others who used
>>> the same type of lies in the 1930s, insisting there were those who
>>> were not _praying to Jesus_ but to a "God" that wanted them to
>>> conspire to rule the world. That led to the greatest blood-bath our
>>> species has ever witnessed. Of course, you insist you "don't remember
>>> it."
>>
> [1] see bottom of post.
>>
>>Then you concern yourself too much with the thoughts of other people sir.
>
> I do not abide horse-shit. Nor do I abide racism. Nor do I abide
> Holocaust denial. Nor do I abide lying. You've demonstrated every
> one of those arguments I do not abide, Sir shit-for-brains. Just a
> few of the devious methods you have used include malice, craftiness,
> and duplicity. Plus you are a congenital liar, and a fraud from snout
> to tail.
>
"I do not abide horse-shit. Nor do I abide racism. Nor do I abide
> Holocaust denial."
It's not for you to abide it or condemn it, sir. Other people's political
views are not your business.
" Nor do I abide lying"
So why do you do it so often, sir? Why are you such a hipocrite?
>>How typically American of you. Others' opinions are none of your business,
>>sir.
>
> Rubbish. Such trash implies that anyone can say anything and no one
> can voice disapproval of what they say. You are claiming that a
> "freedom of speech" implies no "freedom to refute." That's how the
> Nazis took power.. and took away power from the people. A time
> comes when silence is betrayal to one's own moral instincts. You'd
> like nothing better than to silence those who oppose your rather sick
> views.
>
"Rubbish"
No, it is not, "Rubbish", sir. People like you surreptitiously practice
fascism, sir. The same sport your Nazi friends practiced
>>>>"You pray to a god to strike me down for correcting your English, sir?
>>>>Hardly the response of an athiest."
>>>>
>>>>Is not a lie, sir.
>>>
>>> Rubbish. I said "If there were a "God." You expect that to mean I
>>> pray to such an imaginary "God." So I suppose if I wrote "If you
>>> were a Nazi," that would mean that you pray to the Nazis. You
>>> need an intense mental examination... and I am dead serious about
>>> that. I think you miss your mommy... being away from home for
>>> the first time in your young life.
>>
>>You imagine there is a god, sir. You prayed for it to strike me down,
>>sir..
>
> Really, little boy, if you cannot win an argument you should
> not try to lie your way out of losing it. It's just another logical
> fallacy you use -- The logical fallacy of "accent." See --
> http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/logic.html#accent
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrite
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
>
> Changing the meaning of my words.
You do that enough on your own, sir.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>
Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar, sir.
>>> Then you don't know how many "disease causing organisms" people carry.
>>> So you're really arguing from a point of declared ignorance.
>>
>>No, sir. I don't need to know that as it does not alter the point.
>>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar, sir.
>
> But you're wrong again. You argued that humans carry more diseases
> than cockroaches. Then you claim you don't know how many diseases
> humans carry. So you've again violated logic. Arriving at an
> irrelevant conclusion since you admit you didn't have your facts...
> http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/logic.html#elenchi
But you're wrong again
No, sir.
>>>
>>> RTFQ!!! I never said it was on the arm of your baby. I offered you
>>> the CHOICE between killing it, or knowing that it WOULD BE on the arm
>>> of your baby. You chose to let it go to the arm of your baby, and
>>> THEN let it wiggle its six legs a bit before you could grasp it,
>>> spreading even more germs to your own hand, and carefully depositing
>>> it outside your window for the birds to feast upon. I wonder why you
>>> don't have some _cockroach cages_, in which you can _save the
>>> cockroach_ of the world from those nasty birds.
>>>
>>
>>" knowing that it WOULD BE on the arm of your baby."
>
> My question was --
> "Do you step on that cockroach or do you let that cockroach crawl on
> your baby while you run to get some kind of paper or something to
> remove that cockroach gently to avoid hurting your baby and that
> cockroach?"
I pick up the cockroach with my hand and take it outside, sir.
>
> Obviously you would not "step on that cockroach" when it was already
> on your baby's arm... or would you?
I would not step on the cockroach full stop sir. I recall you stating that
you would step on it for the hell of it. Do you deny those words, sir?
>The question was phrased to
> argue would you kill that cockroach BEFORE it could crawl on your
> baby's arm, with the condition that you could not reach that cockroach
> with your hand before it did crawl on your baby's arm? Leaving you
> ONLY the choice of killing it BEFORE it could crawl on your baby, or
> seeing it crawl on your baby's arm.
>
> This is not brain surgery, shit-for-brains. It could be quite
> possible that a cockroach was crawling on the floor close to your
> baby's crib, and we all know how fast cockroaches can scurry.
> Faster than you can get a tissue or even reach down to grab it
> before it has traveled right up the leg of the crib and down onto your
> baby's arm or mouth for that matter. The human instinct is to
> protect your baby from that cockroach, UNLESS you consider
> the cockroach as equal to your own baby. You can only step on it
> BEFORE it reaches your baby, or leave it to crawl on your baby and
> irrationally believe you are fast enough to reach down with your
> fingers and the cockroach will accommodate you in picking it up. That
> could never happen, sport. I don't think simply trying to pick up a
> cockroach that is free to travel is generally very successful. Chee...
> but you are brutally dumb.
Your question is bunkum. and I have already answered it, sir.
>
>>Are you getting angry again, sir?
>>
> Well... let me see... you told me "Others' opinions are none of your
> business." Now you seem to be overly concerned about my opinions.
> But I freely admit that Holocaust denial pisses me off. And you are
> a Holocaust denier. That's the benchmark of my being pissed off
> at you.
"Well... let me see... you told me "Others' opinions are none of your
> business." "
Did you dislike that, sir? It was a kind of comment that a fascist would
object too
>>>>You should think your debates through, sir. Did you have any children
>>>>that
>>>>lived sir?
>>>
>>> Does your mother still prostitute herself for a living? Trust me...
>>> you start bringing insults to my real family or real children, rather
>>> than a hypothetical thought experiment and you will find yourself
>>> being accused of screwing your sister. Remember that YOU started
>>> it. Now apologize and let's move on.
>>>
>>
>>"Does your mother still prostitute herself for a living?"
>>
>>I am sure she could be persuaded, sir.
>
> Last I heard she was only getting a dollar a trick.
It cannot be my mother you are thinking of, sir. She does not accept
American money because she has standards. However I do enjoy that you are
such an ignoramus that you fail to comprehend that in my motherland,
prostitution is neither illegal nor immoral. It is a respectable profession.
The "your mother is a whore" lines do not work on us, dear fellow.
>
>> For a broken down hopeless old man
>>such as yourself, she me very likely increase the price.
>
> I'm not into catching diseases. But what's this "she me very..."?
"I'm not into catching diseases"
Neither is she, sir.
"But what's this "she me very..."
English is not my first language, sir. You are a xenophobic Muppet.
.. >
>>>>
>>>>Then you are a murderer, sir, on two counts. One for killing the poor
>>>>innocent cockroach
>>>
>>> ROTFLMAO. Read the definition of murder, you ignorant child.
>>> MURDER -- "The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially
>>> with premeditated malice."
>>> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/murder
>>>
>>> Insects are NOT "human." Only someone on the edge of sanity could
>>> argue that _cockroaches_ are HUMAN.
>>
>>The unlawful, deliberate killing, sir.
>
> "of one human by another," shit-for-brains.
That must be awfully convenient for you. You are still a murdering bastard,
sir
>
>> So if womeone were to kill you it would not be murder.
>
> What the fuck is a "womeone" (sic)? Is that one of your gang member
> that I have to worry about murdering me??
>
English is not my first language, sir. You are a xenophobic Muppet.
>>> Oh, wait... you need a cite for that, because you're too ignorant to
>>> figure it out for yourself. Here you go --
>>> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/human
>>> HUMAN -- "A member of the genus Homo and especially of the species H.
>>> sapiens."
>>
>>You reference incorrectly, sir. Will you ever learn?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorance
>
> AADP does not accept definitions in your native Tigrinya.
AADP niether accepts or denies anythingm sir. it is a newsgroup.
AADP neither accepts nor denies anything sir. It is a newsgroup.
>
>>> But of course, you've also said that -- "if i do not approve of a
>>> definition I simply choose not to use it." Which makes it easy for
>>> you to invent your own definitions, although it makes communicating
>>> with other humans... IMPOSSIBLE! You sound like Michael
>>> Jackson singing the role of Danny to his pet rat, "Ben," as his only
>>> friend. BTW -- do you consider rats "superior" to cockroaches??
>>> Heh heh heh.
>>>
>>
>>" But of course, you've also said that -- "if i do not approve of a
>>definition I simply choose not to use it." Which makes it easy for you to
>>invent your own definitions"
>>
>>Your logic is erroneous, sir.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar, sir.
>
> My logic is impeccable, Sir shit-for-brains.
Your logic is wrong so it is erroneous, sir.
>
>>>> and two for infecting you baby by spreading the cockroach's
>>>>disease carrying organisms all over your baby, sir.
>>>
>>> Wrong... I killed the cockroach on the floor... my hypothetical baby
>>> was NOT on the floor. You lifted the cockroach carefully from your
>>> hypothetical baby's arm, thoroughly infecting your hypothetical
>>> baby with up to 50 known diseases.
>>>
>>
> [1] see bottom of post
>>
>>Yes, it was sir. You knocked over its cot when you rushed to murder the
>>cockroach. I hope the baby was not yours, sir.
>
> More of your lies.
No, sir.
>
>>> You should be ashamed of yourself. That cockroach NEVER touched
>>> my baby.
>
> See what I wrote, Sir shit-for-brains? Proving you lied.
No it doesn't sir. The cockroach was a hypothetical part of one of your
puerile games, sir.
>
>>> You should RTFQ when you see thought experiments rather than
>>> contriving your own set of circumstances and accusing the other
>>> of "murder." How many "murders" have you committed in washing
>>> your hands??
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"RTFQ"
>>
>>
>>
>>Language, sir.
>
> See --
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rtfq
If you will post acronyms, sir.
>
> Educated yourself, for fuck's sake. You can't stumble through
> life remaining ignorant... even if you think you can.
I shall be right behind you in the queue, ignoramus.
>
>>>>> Since you find humans and cockroaches no different, if you had
>>>>> to kill a human or kill a cockroach, and had no other choice, which
>>>>> would you kill? After all, you can't make the same choice as
>>>>> Buridan's donkey in this thought experiment. One or the other,
>>>>> sport. Which one is it?
>>>
>>> And we see Death Disco respond with *deathly silence*
>>> For a guy that raves on and on about irrelevant things, and
>>> insists he _talks to "something higher than ourselves"_ we
>>> now find he is at a loss for words.
>>
>>
>>
>>No, sir. That was your response.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>
> Just more of your lies. It seems you've given up and just offer
> lie after lie.
>
Really sir; if you cannot win an argument without lying then you should not
be allowed to play.
It was from your post so it is your response, sir
>>>
>>>>> Regardless... I'm now getting a better focus on why you deny the
>>>>> Holocaust. It's because to you six million Jews are worth less than
>>>>> six million and one cockroaches, in your sick mind.
>>>
>>> And we see Death Disco respond with *deathly silence*
>>> For a guy that raves on and on about irrelevant things, and
>>> insists he _talks to "something higher than ourselves"_ we
>>> now find he is at a loss for words.
>>
>>No, sir. That was your response.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
You typed it, sir. It was your response.
.
>
>>>>If you cannot win your arguments without lying or (inclusive) name
>>>>calling
>>>>then you should not be allowed to take part.
>>>
>>> Who the hell are you to tell me what I can and can't do? This is just
>>> more of your God-complex at work. Nonetheless... the only liar is
>>> you... because I NEVER, EVER LIE!! You need to offer a cite of my
>>> words that demonstrates I have lied. In fact, my never having lied
>>> has brought me more grief in arguments than if I had lied. When I
>>> win arguments the claims that I'm a liar come out of the woodwork...
>>> like your pet "cockroaches."
>>
>>
"Who the hell are you to tell me what I can and can't do?"
Who are you to tell people what to believe, what politics to support, what
religions to support?
>>
>>"Who the hell are you to tell me what I can and can't do?"
>>
>>
>>
>>Indeed, sir. Will you take instruction only from another American, sir?
>
> Answer the question, Sir shit-for-brains. What makes you wiggle and
> squeal like a stuck pig, offering irrelevant implications that you
> hope to use to avoid the fact of your Nazi persona insists what
> I can and can't do? In the way you framed your argument I wouldn't
> give a shit if you were fucking Interpol. Who the hell are YOU to
> tell me what I can and can't do??? Aside from your God-complex
> believing you are "something higher than ourselves," and can order
> everyone around... or do you think you can only order Americans
> around, you xenophobic mental fruit loop?
>
"Answer the question"
Who are you to tell people what to believe, what politics to support, what
religions to support?
>>>>Wiki is not known for its accuracy, sir.
>>>
>>> Only in your mind. Wiki makes your puny knowledge measurable only on
>>> a scale less than the Planck constant.
>>
>>
>>
> [1] see bottom of post
>>
>>
>>
>>No, sir. In reality
>>
>
> And yet you used it... Twice... and probably in many more places. You
> used it in referring to --
> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrite
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
At no juncture did I claim it was 100% inaccurate, sir.
>
> Of course, you two-faced piece of garbage... you didn't even
> know what a "hypocrite" was until I called you a "hypocrite" and
> you swiftly ran to see with the word means.
>
"Of course, you two-faced piece of garbage"
Are you getting angry again you xenophobic hypocrite?
>>>>> English criminal law applies to the law in the U.K.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yes sir, but if you suggest that killing in self defense does not carry
>>>>a
>>>>prison term in the UK then you are wrong sir.
>>>
>>> Killing in recognized self-defense does not carry any crime at
>>> all. It's only when it has been determined that the definition
>>> of self-defense has not been met that anyone can be accused
>>> or convicted of any crime. If the recognized LEGAL conditions
>>> of self-defense are MET... there has no crime committed.
>>
>>Killing carries a custodial sentence, even if it is in self-defence. That
>>is
>>British law, of course.
>
> Wrong. Why do you keep lying, when the evidence against your
> argument keeps piling up?
>
Wrong.
> Even when I prove using the OFFICIAL U.K. government site of "The
> Crown Prosecution Services." See --
> http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/self_defence/
> Quote -- "it is important to ensure that all those acting reasonably
> and in good faith to defend themselves, their family, their property
> or in the prevention of crime or the apprehension of offenders are not
> prosecuted for such action.."
>
You have proved nothing sir.
> Do you have any idea just how IGNORANT you look when you
> ignore FACTS???
>
I do not ignore FACTS, sir.
>>> You did not SUGGEST... but INSISTED that factually -- "You kill
>>> someone in self defense in Britian (sic) then your conviction will
>>> read that of masnlaughter (sic)." But you were wrong, and now you
>>> are lying hope to wiggle out of that silly comment. If you
>>> kill in legally recognized self-defense in Britian (sic) then you
>>> have committed NO CRIME.
>>
>>You are wrong, sir.
>
> It's not me you're calling "wrong," shit-for-brains. I'm only the
> messenger. You're calling the British government WRONG!
> You're insisting that "The Crown Prosecution Service" does not
> honor a self-defense argument if "The Crown Prosecution
> Service" decides the killing was a legal self-defense killing.
>
"It's not me you're calling "wrong," "
Yes it is,sir.
> Good grief... but you keep raising the bar of your stupidity.
> Apparently I've managed to tilt your personality toward the
> deranged.
>
Pot, kettle, black, sir.
>>> It is when you kill, and it not recognized as being in self-defense,
>>> even if you plead that it was, that you will be accused and tried
>>> in a court of law for "manslaughter," or even "murder" if it is
>>> found that your claim of self-defense was rubbish and you killed
>>> intentionally and with malice aforethought.
>>
>>
>>
>>You do not know British law, sir.
>
> I'm just the messenger. You're arguing that "The Crown
> Prosecution Service" does not know British law, Sir shit-for-brains.
> Perhaps your argument is that you're hearing voices from
> "something higher than ourselves," who keep telling you
> that "The Crown Prosecution Service," doesn't know what
> it's talking about.
>
"I'm just the messenger"
No, you are not, sir.
> Good grief... but you keep raising the bar of your stupidity.
> Apparently I've managed to tilt your personality toward the
> deranged.
> Nor can you, Sir shit-for-Brains. But you're sure trying in using a
> constant flood of lies and deceit.
pot, kettle, black, sir.
>
>>Of course, we can, sir. You do it persistently.
>
> An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible
No, it isn't, sir.
>
>>>>Killing in self defense is manslaughter and is punishable by
>>>>imprisonment,
>>>>sir.
>>>
>>> Heh... Saying it, is not proving it. Unless you abide by the diktat
>>> of Hitler, who insisted that "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep
>>> saying it, and eventually they will believe it"
>>>
>>
>>I am under no obligation to prove anything to you, sir.
>
> But you do need to prove it to "The Crown Prosecution Service,"
> since they have a different story than you're pandering.
No, sir.
>
>>> While you may claim that "I have no obligation to prove my arguments
>>> or to answer anything," that only means even you know that your
>>> argument is not true.
>>>
>>
>>No it doesn't, sir.
>>
> An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
Will you be posting referenced cites to all your assertions above then, sir?
>>
>>>
>>> While you may claim that "I have no obligation to prove my arguments
>>> or to answer anything," that only means even you know that your
>>> argument is not true. A person can go to prison for "claiming to have
>>> killed in self-defense," when the judiciary determines that the
>>> killing did not meet the legal standards of self-defense. But a
>>> person having met the legal standards of self-defense will never be
>>> prosecuted for a crime. It is a fundamental principle of the law that
>>> killing in "legally recognized self-defense" is NOT a crime.
>>>
>>
>>I have responded to this further up the post, sir. Repeating it would be
>>pointless.
>>
>
> Of course it would. You've lost above... and you lose again here.
You cannot win an argument simply by declaring your opponent the loser, sir.
>
> This is the is the OFFICIAL U.K. government site of "The
> Crown Prosecution Services." See --
> http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/self_defence/
> Quote -- "it is important to ensure that all those acting reasonably
> and in good faith to defend themselves, their family, their property
> or in the prevention of crime or the apprehension of offenders are not
> prosecuted for such action.."
>>
> It's not ME you're lying to... it's you lying to "The Crown
> Prosecution Services."
>
No, sir.
>>> And finally -- Your claim that "It's the unknown, sir."
>>> Which you argue is _an unknown but known to you_.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>I did not ask for proof, sir. I informed you that you had not provided
>>any.
>>On the other hand, you repeatedly ask for proof so proof is your
>>commitment.
>
> Well, if you're not asking for any proof... then fuck-off. The
> difference is when you lie or use fraud or use one of your greasy,
> smarmy comments that you believe pass for some fact, I demand
> you prove it. Otherwise, it's just you fabricating some of your
> horse-shit.
>
"Well, if you're not asking for any proof... then fuck-off."
Language, sir.
>>> Since when are you a better source of information than the sources
>>> I've provided? Let's be clear... you ASSERTED -- "Killing in self
>>> defense is manslaughter and is punishable by imprisonment,
>>> sir." PROVE IT! Show me one reference in which there is the
>>> clear statement that "killing in self-defense is manslaughter."
>>> Just one, sport. No legal system accepts that argument. Every
>>> legal system in the western world recognizes the right of
>>> self-defense.
>>>
>>> However, I am certain that the following reference is proof positive
>>> of my argument. It is the OFFICIAL U.K. government site of "The
>>> Crown Prosecution Services." See --
>>> http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/self_defence/
>>> Quote -- "it is important to ensure that all those acting reasonably
>>> and in good faith to defend themselves, their family, their property
>>> or in the prevention of crime or the apprehension of offenders are not
>>> prosecuted for such action.."
>>
>>I have responded to this further up the post, sir. Repeating it would be
>>pointless.
>>
> No you didn't. This is the first time you've seen me refer to an
> actually UK Government source of reference. This is something you
> cannot hide from. This is not something you can DENY. Just
> even trying to do so is an example of your use of lies.
>
Sir, your repeat your same junk so often it becomes a dull roar. You cannot
win arguments by repeating them over and over again.
>>>
>>> End of story... you lose, sport. Unless you argue that this voice
>>> of "something higher than ourselves," told you that "The Crown
>>> Prosecution Service" is a bunch of crap.
>>>
>>
> [1] see bottom of post
>
>>You're guessing, sir.
>
> Not one bit, Sir shit-for-brains. Go ahead and call "The Crown
> Prosecution Service." Here's their number, and this is their
> REAL telephone number -- 020 7796 8000. Or visit them
> at "The Crown Prosecution Service, 50 Ludgate Hill, London,
> EC4M 7EX" See --
> http://www.cps.gov.uk/
"Not one bit"
Every bit, sir.
>
> Don't give me any more lies about UK self-defense laws, because
> you are totally ignorant of UK law.
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And you've already lost three times now. When do you plan to
>>>>> stop lying, shit-for-brains???
>>>>
>>>>You're guessing, sir.
>>>
>>> Since when are you a better source of information than the sources
>>> I've provided?
>>
>>
>>
>>Since I came to Britain, sir.
>
> Another logical fallacy. The non sequitur -- See
> http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/logic.html#nonseq
No, sir.
>
> Go ahead and call "The Crown Prosecution Service." Here's their
> number, and this is their REAL telephone number -- 020 7796 8000. Or
> visit them at "The Crown Prosecution Service, 50 Ludgate Hill, London,
> EC4M 7EX" See --
> http://www.cps.gov.uk/
>
Did you ring them, sir?
> Don't give me any more lies about UK self-defense laws, because
> you are totally ignorant of UK law.
Bull, sir. I live in the UK.
>>>
>>> See above. Or see the OFFICIAL U.K. government site of "The
>>> Crown Prosecution Services." See --
>>> http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/self_defence/
>>> Quote -- "it is important to ensure that all those acting reasonably
>>> and in good faith to defend themselves, their family, their property
>>> or in the prevention of crime or the apprehension of offenders are not
>>> prosecuted for such action.."
>>
>>I have responded to this further up the post, sir. Repeating it would be
>>pointless.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
> Denying it over and over... does not make your absurd argument
> true.
It doesn't have to if my argument is already true,sir.
>
> Go ahead and call "The Crown Prosecution Service." Here's their
> number, and this is their REAL telephone number -- 020 7796 8000. Or
> visit them at "The Crown Prosecution Service, 50 Ludgate Hill, London,
> EC4M 7EX" See --
> http://www.cps.gov.uk/
Repetition doesn't help your argument, sir.
>
> Don't give me any more lies about UK self-defense laws, because
> you are totally ignorant of UK law.
>>
>>>
>>>>>>> Apparently you just use your imagination in your arguments, and
>>>>>>> don't even bother with the truth. To you... like to Hitler... the
>>>>>>> TRUTH is just an inconvenience if it conflicts with your agenda.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You have just describes your "Strategy" correctly sir. It's time you
>>>>>>were honest with yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stop repeating your lies. Repetition has no relation to accuracy.
>>>>
>>>>I repeat only your lies, sir.
>>>
>>> TRANSLATION "I repeat only my lies, sir.."'
>>
>>>
>>>>>>> Why don't you try something new... Like telling the truth?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pot? Pot? this is kettle. Colour check please...
>>>>>
>>>>> TRANSLATION: "Pot? Pot? this is kettle. Colour check please...."
>>>
>>> So you admit you're a liar.
>>
>>
>>No, sir. I admit that you are.
>
> An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
Wrong, sir.
>
> You also admit that you're ignorant of the law... and of all things
> related to humanity. But you can build an antenna that picks
> up signals from "something higher than ourselves." You're
> cuckoo.
"You also admit that you're ignorant of the law"
No I do not, sir.
>>>>Hardly a compelling argument, sir.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Better than any you've ever had.
>>
>>
>>You're guessing, sir.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar, sir.
>>>>
>>>>You have a prejudice against the "young" (Sic), sir!
>>>
>>> An unreferenced cite is inadmissable (sic).
>>
>>
>>That was not a cite, sir. Do you have a clue, sir?
>
> Then you admit it was ad hominem... another of your logical
> fallacies -- See --
> http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/logic.html#hominem
>
I'll take that as a ,"no", sir.
>>>>Yes, sir. But I corrected it in my follow up post, the one you are about
>>>>to pretend you have not seen.
>>>
>>> Yada, yada, yada.
>>
>>Is the pinnacle of your intellectual capability sir?
>
> I was referring to your whining denial that you did not answer the
> question correctly and even admitted that you had not... and now
> you lie and argue you never were incorrect, after admitting you
> were.
>
"I was referring to"
Nothing, sir.
>>>
>>> I read your "excuse," but I haven't got around to responding to all of
>>> your disturbed mind comments. I have other priorities, plus I take my
>>> time... so I don't have to ask the teacher for my work to be returned
>>> because I was in a hurry. Most nights I do even read AADP comments
>>> until after midnight, when I'm sure my wife is sound asleep.
>>
> [1] see bottom of post
>>
>>
>>I offerecd no excuse, sir. There was nothing to excuse.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/excuse
Iknow the meanings of both those words sir. As I said,
I offered no excuse, sir. There was nothing to excuse.
>>
>>>
>>> Hardly. Now that I've answered it when can I expect the answer to my
>>> second question, or even my third question.
>>
>>It is fortunate I was not submitting it to anyone whose opinion matters,
>>sir.
>>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorance
>
Posting irrelevent links does not win your argument for you, sir.
>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nor do I have to consult wikipedia to know what mens rea and actus
>>>>>>>>> reus mean. But obviously you had to look it up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <clip vacuous repeating of my comment>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I've already accepted your surrender.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's that psychotic God-complex of yours talking to you rather than my
>>>>> "surrender," my young ignorant child. Saying things that make it
>>>>> appear you believe you are God, that what you say must be taken as
>>>>> fact rather than your silly opinion... comments of yours such as --
>>>>>
>>>>> "I don't need to prove it, dear fellow."
>>>>> "I am not obliged to prove it to you."
>>>>> "I am not obliged to prove anything to you, sir."
>>>>> "I do not need to offer scientific proof"
>>>>> "I am the exclusive author of my issue and only I have
>>>>> the authority to make and declerations(sic) base (sic) upon it."
>>>>> "I have no obligation to prove my arguments or to answer anything."
>>>>> etc... etc... etc...
>>>>> And finally -- Your claim that "It's the unknown, sir."
>>>>> Which you argue is _an unknown but known to you_
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"But you're no longer worth my time"
>>>>
>>>>That was your surrender, sir.
>>>>
>>> You may think so... shit... you think you're God, or at least God
>>> talks to you. But you should notice that I'm still here. Thus,
>>> you're a bit premature in claiming victory.
>
> [1] see bottom of post
>
>>I do, sir.
>>
> Well, thanks for admitting you're a bit premature.
I made no such admission, sir
>
> Apology accepted.
>
None was offered, sir.
>>>
>>> While our purpose here should not be "victory," but progress... thus
>>> my purpose is simply to provide a small measure of nurturing to you
>>> that has obviously been neglected by those who should have nurtured
>>> you. I've come not to expect more from you than what your nurturing
>>> has failed to provide.
>>
>>You're guessing sir. You have no purpose. You are a waste, sir.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorance
Posting irrelevent links does not win your argument for you, sir.
> [1] see bottom of post
>>
>>
>>I do, sir.
>
> Please... one apology from you about this is enough. I accept your
> apology.
I offered no apology, sir.
>
>
>>> While our purpose here should not be "victory," but progress... thus
>>> my purpose is simply to provide a small measure of nurturing to you
>>> that has obviously been neglected by those who should have nurtured
>>> you. I've come not to expect more from you than what your nurturing
>>> has failed to provide.
>>
>>
>>
>>You're guessing sir. You have no purpose. You are a waste, sir.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorance
Posting irrelevent links does not win your argument for you, sir.
>
>>>
>>>>>>>>At some point I did, yes. It's called research. It's how most people
>>>>>>>>learn
>>>>>>>>words which is considerably more than your method of guessing them,
>>>>>>>>dear
>>>>>>>>fellow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then you should look up the word "prejudice" and see what a fool
>>>>>>> you are, and how it describes your anti-Semitism perfectly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I did look it up sir. You claim that you do not need to. Curious
>>>>>
>>>>> I've looked it up... and guess what? Not one single mention of the
>>>>> word "static" exists in ANY definition of the word "prejudice" in ANY
>>>>> English dictionary that I can find. And I have looked at about a
>>>>> dozen of them, both on-line dictionaries and those I have in my
>>>>> private library. So what dictionary have you been using that has
>>>>> the word "static" in the definition of the word "prejudice"???
>>>>> I recall the definition you did provide that only proved me right
>>>>> as to the word being subjective -- a "mental abstraction," of no
>>>>> real physical existence. And nowhere in that definition you provided
>>>>> does the word "static" appear. So put up or shut up.
>>>
>>> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>>>>
>>>>I never said it did, sir.
>>>>
>>> Yet you argued that "prejudice" is a "static word."
>>
>>It is, dear fellow.
>>
> An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
Wrong again, sir.
>>
>>>
>>>>> *deathly silence*
>>>>
>>>>You are anything but silent, sir.
>>>
>>> Can't stand the heat when I put your feet to the fire, can you?
>>
>>You cannot acclaim me for your words, sir.
>
> Please consult an English dictionary. I would never be one
> who would "acclaim" your words, Sir shit-for-brains.
You do everytime you repeat them, sir. The ones I actually say, that is.
>
>
>>>
>>> Is that all you have? Don't you feel stupid not having of consequence
>>> to say? You should you know... you should feel VERY stupid!!
>>
> [2] see bottom of post
>>
>>
>>No, sir.
>
> I didn't say you DO... I said you SHOULD feel VERY stupid!! I don't
> think you have enough intelligence to even realize just how stupid
> you are.
>
"I said you SHOULD feel VERY stupid"
Not when pitted against you, sir.
>>> I never, ever lie. Claiming I do is simply your own smear tactics to
>>> discredit my exposing your own lies and deceit. It's a popular
>>> tactic used by those who are either exposed for being a liar or want
>>> to shift the argument (which is recognized as lost) to one of ad
>>> hominem, about presumed, but unexplained or lacking a cite to past
>>> comments. Simply call the person who exposes you -- a liar. And
>>> then "claim victory" as if that proves he is a liar. As to name
>>> calling... I have seldom found a more "name-calling-worthy" poster
>>> than you, sport.
>>
>
> [1] see bottom of post
>>
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>
> What are you denying now, Sir shit-for-brains??
You were claiming that you never ever lie, sir.
>>> Well... wait a minute... you argued that humans are not "superior" to
>>> what you referred to as the "poor little creature" called the
>>> cockroach. So given that premise which is a true premise from your
>>> own words... you argue that six million and one cockroaches are worth
>>> more to you than six million innocent Jews. It's a fair question
>>> since you insisted that a cockroach is no less than a human being.
>>
>>
>>Why Jews, sir? Do you see them more important than the rest of the world?
>>Are you a racist, sir?
>
> Six million Jews were exterminated by the Nazis... you insist you
> don't "remember" it... so it is not in your memory. Given that fact,
> it is obvious that you care more about six million and one cockroaches
> than those six million innocent Jews slaughtered by your kinsmen
> on the continent of Europe.
>
" Six million Jews were exterminated by the Nazis"
What about everyone else who were exterminated by the Nazis, sir? Don't they
count? What about those whom were tortured by the Japanese, sir? Don't tthey
count?
> You're the only racist, sport. That why you need to call me a racist
> because I mentioned the Jews... the Jews who you CANNOT
> remember... but I do remember them.
"You're the only racist, sport">
You're guessing, "sport".
>>> But I need to hear it from you... so given your original premise...
>>> another thought experiment... If you had to kill a cockroach to
>>> save a murderer from execution... would you kill that cockroach??
>>> Remember... you don't want to be called a "murderer" (sic)... do you??
>>
> [1] see bottom of post
>>
>>
>>You cannot hear me, sir.
>
> I can hear your Holocaust denial all the way across the Atlantic, Sir
> shit-for-brains.
"I can hear your Holocaust denial "
No you can't sir. You hear only your own fantasies
>>> No proof offered. Your claim fails. Plus "an unreferenced is
>>> inadmissable (sic)." Whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean.
>>
>>An unreferenced cite is inadmissible
>>
>
> Well... it's about time you got it right... since you've never managed
> to put those five words together without fucking up the English
> language in the process. But it seems you are still fucking it
> up... the Oxford English Dictionary makes no reference to the
> word "unreferenced" (sic). Even when examining all the words
> having the prefix of "un." I've ignored mentioning it because
> it's just too trivial and I understand just how little English you
> know. But face it, Sir shit-for-brains... you're an idiot. You
> should form your pitiful argument such that it states -- "A
> cite without reference is inadmissible."
>
"Well... it's about time you got it right"
English is not easy to master, sir. You are 78 and you are still struggling
with it.
> [1] see bottom of post
>>
>>
>>
>>You feel that you need to worry?
>
> You seemed to claim I do. You're the only one claiming I _should
> worry_.
>
"You seemed to claim "
No I didn't sir. Get one fact straight, dear fellow. What you and I do here
is what the British call "Banter". It is harmless fun for both of us, I
hope. There is no threat to your health or any form of physical violence
from me, sir. That is not my way. I detest people who beleive they can win
arguments with thier fists. It's a losing strategy from day one. You will
get no such threat from me, sir.
> And at this point, Death Disco felt he had been hammered quite enough
> for one sitting, and decided to just stop responding.
No sir. I caught the "send" shortcut. Alt+S when aiming for alt+tab.
However I responded to the rest in another post.
J
I am keen to meet the fellow, sir. It would be curious to see someone whom
you actually beat in an argument. He must have been asleep, or drunk or
both, sir.
>
>>>>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:l2db06hcao304a4bg...@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Mon, 31 May 2010 14:56:34 +0100, "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
>>>>> wrote:
>>
>><snip>
>
>>" But you're no longer worth my time"
>>
>>Was perfectly clear, sir. You cannot take time back, you know.
>
> Your "something higher than ourselves" told you that??
>
I see you are still trying to avoid your own screwups, sir.
>>> I haven't yet lost any money betting on your ignorance, Sir
>>> shit-for-brains.
>>>
>>
>>That is because you didn't bet any, sir.
>
> Wrong, Sir shit-for-brains.
Are the bailiffs banging on your door, sir? Hmm? Do they shout through your
letter box of that all so very bright home of yours, sir? Are they
threatening to take it away from you because you cannot pay your gambling
debts, sir. You should give it up, sir. You are no good at it.
>>"All people are "special," "
>>
>>You certainly are, sir.
>
> All people are "special," even you, you sick in the head racist.
You certainly are, sir.
>
>>>>
>>>>I don't have to lie, sir. Lying is your strategy.
>>>
>>> [2] see bottom of post.
>>
>>Are you bored with your own repetition, sir?
>
> You mean YOUR repetition, sport...
No, sir. I mean, your repetion..
Since I only use that when
>>>
>>> [1] see bottom of post.
>>
>>As should you, sir.
>
> You're insane...
My, dear fellow. Pot, kettle, black.
>>
>>Apparently not, sir. There is no dent in my head
>
> I'll bet you haven't checked carefully in your scalp... look for a
> "666" mark.
You are a Christian, sir.
>
>>We should remind yourself why you think I'm Dutch sir
>
> Who's this "we," Sir shit-for-brains?
>
>>"
>>Bet you're Dutch, with a dingleberry hanging from your ass because
>>of your unhygienic paedomorphic habits. You're certainly
>>not Italian... I am almost mother-tongue fluent in Italian having
>>learned most of it before I was 14, and then taking it as my
>>minor in college. You're not French... my wife is mother-tongue
>>French, born and raised in Paris... so I can do very well in
>>the French spoken language, and good enough in the written
>>language. You're not German... I spent 20 years in Germany,
>>and can keep up a fairly good conversation, because people
>>tend to overlook grammatical mistakes in respect to "der" "die"
>>"das" gender notation and case endings when speaking, although
>>my written German could use a lot of work, for which I do not
>>have time, and no longer have the drive I once had. I don't think
>>you're Spanish or Portuguese. Nor from the former East bloc.
>>And since you mention ...
>>
>>"
>
> Man, that was a real logical and convincing observation on my part, if
> I do say so myself.
You do, sir?
>
>>Cite:
>>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>>From: Planet Visitor II <hidden to protect privacy>
>>Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 00:11:17 -0400
>>Local: Thurs, May 27 2010 5:11 am
>>Subject: Re: High court rules out life sentences for some juveniles
>>
>>"I am almost mother-tongue fluent in Italian having
>>learned most of it before I was 14, and then taking it as my
>>minor in college"
>>
>>This is your logic for thinking I'm not Italian, sir?
>
> Well, try me, if you are Italian. Prove it.
">>"I am almost mother-tongue fluent in Italian having
>>learned most of it before I was 14, and then taking it as my
>>minor in college"
"
How exactly does your comment prove that I am not Italian, sir?
>
>>"You're not French... my wife is mother-tongue
>>French, born and raised in Paris... "
>>
>>This is your logic for thinking I'm not French, sir?
>
> Well, try me, if you are French. Prove it.
How exactly does your comment prove that I am not French, sir?
>
>>"You're not German... I spent 20 years in Germany,
>>and can keep up a fairly good conversation, because people
>>tend to overlook grammatical mistakes in respect to "der" "die"
>>"das" gender notation and case endings when speaking, although
>>my written German could use a lot of work, for which I do not
>>have time, and no longer have the drive I once had"
>>
>>This is your logic for thinking I'm not German, sir?
>
> Well, try me, if you are German. Prove it.
How exactly does your comment prove that I am not German, sir?
>
>>You neglected to post your reasoning for believing me Dutch, sir.
>
> Because I don't speak Dutch, and the Dutch offer quite a
> bit of education in the English language.
That is your reason for thinking me Dutch, sir? I can see you have not
thought this through.
>>As should you, sir.
>
> I "remember" quite a bit of events that happened before I was born,
No you don't, sir. You was not there.
>>>>I did not, sir.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>
>>Denying something doesn't automatically make the denier a liar, sir.
>>
> It doesn't make the denier suddenly speak the truth when it is
> obvious that he speaks a lie. That seems to be your implication.
Denial proves or disproves nothing, sir.
>>
>>>
>>> Yes you did, you little Holocaust denier.
>>
>>I did not, sir.
>
> Yes, you did, Sir shit-for-brains. And you're also a Holocaust
> denier... claiming you hear voices.
I did not, sir.
>
>>>
>>>>> Are you now denying those were your words?
>>>>
>>>>No, sir.
>>>
>>> Then you admit you are a Holocaust denier. Don't think you are?
>>> Well, let me ask you... do you "remember" that there was an
>>> extermination of six million Jews in the 20th Century???
>>
>>"Then you admit you are a Holocaust denier"
>>
>>No sir.
>
> If you claim you don't "remember" it happening, that is a clear
> indication that you "deny" it happening.
>
Your logic does not follow normal rational reasoning, sir.
>>>
>>> Yet you fondly "remember" the Greeks. You naughty boy, you.
>>
>>Only the ones I've met, sir.
>
> Heh... that must have been a night of debauchery.
A night, sir? Nobody goes to Greece for just one night, sir.
>Don't bother
> sharing the sordid details...
I won't, sir.
> this is a family oriented newsgroup.
Since when, sir?
>>>>You claimed that you could, "hear" me, sir.
>>>>Any fear that you experience is your own, sir. If you were to be able to
>>>>feel my emotions sir, you would feel my amusement.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>
>>There was no denial, sir. You responses are getting more random, dear
>>fellow.
>
> Need I point out again --
Not if it is your usual gibberish, sir.
>>>
>>
>>Shall we wait for you temper tantrum to calm down, sir?
>
> Heh... as the Dalai Lama noted --
Are you planning to re-interpret his word too, sir?
>>
>>"I never, ever lie. "
>>
>>Anothr lie, sir.
>
> Really,
Yes, sir.
"little boy, "
You're guessing again, sir.
>>>>
>>>>"While opinions are like ass holes... everyone has one"
>>>>
>>>>They do sir? So you have only the one opinion. Curious
>>>
>>> "Opinions." "ass holes." The "s" in English means plural. I don't
>>> know what it means in your mother-tongue which is apparently Tigrinya.
>>
>>" "Opinions." "ass holes." The "s" in English means plural"
>>
>>"While opinions are like ass holes... everyone has 'one'"
>>
>>The "one" implies singular, sir.
>
> "Opinions".... plural. "one".... used as a pronoun... for example ...
> the simple English constructed sentence -- "she visited ONE of her
> cousins." Notice that she does not have only ONE cousin. Thus
> a person does not have only ONE opinion.
>
> Chee... but you are uneducated.
You're guessing again, sir.
>>
>>"Heh... I believe you actually looked at a dictionary"
>>
>>When one is learning a language, it is useful to browse a dictionary of
>>that
>>language sir. It is a practice that I reccomend you try.
>
> Too bad
Your refusal to educate yourself has been noted, sir.
>>"Don't blame me for your illiteracy"
>>Numeracy, my dear fellow; not literacy.
>
> The terms are not mutually exclusive, Sir shit-for-brains.
So you do not understand the expression, "mutually exclusive", either.
>>
>>There was no denial sir. Your confusion is increasing.
>
> Don't you ever get tired of repeating the same mindless drivel?
Do you, sir?
>>""No sir. You were the one whom (sic) "fucked
>>> up" lightspeed, sir."
>>
>>You did, sir. you claimed it was 300,000,000 M/s.
>
> No, Sir shit-for-brains... I said "presuming the velocity of light is
> exactly 300,000,000 meters/per second."
But it isn't, sir.
>
> The question was posed to not use a calculator or references.. because
> the reference was given and the arithmetic could be done in the
> head (not your head, of course, but the head of someone with at
> least a room temperature IQ). I told you that the problem could be
> solved in 30 seconds in the head... with nothing else... and I showed
> how it could be. Unless you have a problem figuring out in your head
> what the answer to 3000 divided by 8 is. 3/8 is 0.375... ching...
> ching... ching... and there's the answer 375... bip.. bip... bip.
> Kids these days... all of them need a calculator and can't read
> questions accurately.
>
"The question was posed to not use a calculator or references"
That is not your decision, sir.
> Good grief... it's so difficult for me to deal with the juvenile
> uneducated.
>
Looking the in mirror must be a real problem for you then, sir.
> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
"Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole?"
To respond to them, sir.
>
>>That you didn't spot my quarter wave mistake or pinpoint where my first
>>mistake was wrong? Yes sir. That is very strange.
>
> I'm very forgiving of your basic ignorance.
I am less forgiving of yours.
>
>>>>I have built one in a while. What
>>>>about you, sir? When did you last build one?
>>>
>>> LOL..." I have built one in a while," too. You ignorant child. Are
>>> you also this stupid in your mother tongue? Don't lie now.
>>
>>I shall take that as a "Never". shall I ,sir.
>
> Since the word "never" does not appear in my comment,
You avoided the question, sir.
>>>
>>
>>"I'm not the authority. I'm the messenger"
>>
>>You are neither, sir.
>
> But you implied I was the "authority" behind my argument, when it's
> obvious that the AUTHORITY is "Bureau International des Poids et
> Mesures. The International System of Units - le Système international
> d'unités." That is... a lesser authority to those voices you hear
> from "something higher than ourselves." He he he he he. You
> psychotic fruitcake. Tell me again how you know more than the
> Bureau International des Poids et Mesures. The International System
> of Units - le Système international d'unités.
>
"But you implied "
No I didn't, sir.
>>You have read them all in this small time, sir?
>
> I'm a fast reader.
You would have to be the fastest reader on the planet, sir.
> Can't do it, can you???
Can't do what, sir?
Yet I've provided cite after cite showing
> Hz being the recognized standard for "cycles per second."
>
If you had read your books sir, you would see that cs and c/s are also used.
> You're one hard-headed piece of work, Sir shit-for-brains.
Thank you, sir.
>
>>>>You haven't answered the problem I gave you, yet.
>>>
>>> Nor have you. I could give you a multitude of problems that you
>>> could not even attempt to solve, sport.
>>>
>>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>>
>>Yes I have, sir. I am still waiting for your solution if you can offer
>>one.
>
> No, problem.... See -
> http://www.bipm.org/en/si/si_brochure/chapter5/5-2.html
That does not answer the question, sir. You have avoided it yet again.
>
>>"I've looked in all my books"
>>
>>Then you should find the answer in them, sir.
>
> I did find the answer in a very concise reference in my library titled
> the "Standard Handbook for Electrical Engineers." About 2000 pages
> deep, edited by Donald G Fink (look him up), published by McGraw Hill,
> with ISBN 0-07-020973-1.
" About 2000 pages deep"
2304 to be exact, sir.
>Go to your library and ask them for it.
> Then go to page 1-9... Systems of Measurement. And you will see
> that Frequency is measured in Hz.
Are those the only pages you looked at in the entire book, sir?
>
> And yet I can find no reference to "Cs is the standard for cycles per
> second." In fact every reference states that "Hz is the standard
> for cycles per second."
If that book is any good then it should contain the formulas to answer those
little problems I gave you. Maybe you should try buying a copy and reading
it, sir.
Hz is an abbreviation of a mathematical expression, sir; as are Kilo, Mega,
Omega etc, etc. C/s are the mathematical expression itself sir and not a
standard abbreviation. Hertz is an abbreviation, sir. We are not answerable
to you regarding our choice of terms sir. Of course, should you feel the
desire you are welcome to call your legal representative and have him sue my
colleagues and I, sir.
>>>>>
>>>>> R = 3.183 x 10^4 Ohms = 31.83 K Ohms
>>>>>
>>>>> c = 10^-9 Farads
>>>>>
>>>>> f = 500 Hz
>>>>>
>>>>> thus -
>>>>>
>>>>> Xc = 1/(2 x [pi] x f x c) = 1/(2 x 2.14 x 500 x 10^-9 Ohms)
>>>>
>>>>Xc=1/w(omega)c sir but it equates to the same thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> thus reducing --
>>>>>
>>>>> Xc= 3.183 x 10^5 ohms = 318.3 K Ohms
>>>>>
>>>>318.310K to be more accurate, sir but you are doing very well
>>>
>>> Heh... you idiot. That is only LESS accurate. Your original data
>>> gave R = 3.183... you cannot invent that 318310, as presumable
>>> "more accurate" than your original number. Your entire problem
>>> is limited to 3.183, which is four significant digits. Offering
>>> a claim that "318.31..." is "more accurate" is a crock of shit,
>>> since it implies five digits of accuracy.
>>
>>Temper, temper. If you cannot handle the problem you should ask for help.
>
> I'm not the type who finds humor in your ignorance.
You're the one whom failed the problem sir.
>
>> PI has more than 5 digits of accuracy, sir.
>
> When I state 3.14159...
You have over snipped, sir. You appear to be as ignorant on snipping, as you
are everything else.
> Pi, my young student, is no more a constant than a man is a cockroach.
> pi is only as accurate as your calculator, thus it is not incorrect to
> show pi as an approximation because that's what it is, no matter how
> long one writes integers. Nor can one write pi as a quotient of two
> integers, in exact terms. While your use of 318.310 implies a
> constant "more accurate" than your original constant, Sir
> shit-for-brains.
>
"Pi, my young student, is no more a constant than a man is a cockroach.
> pi is only as accurate as your calculator"
Nonsense, sir. Pi goes on for as long as there can be new digits calculated.
and alot of people do not need a calculator to calculate it as you would.
They spend a finate amount of time on it.
"I can't believe you don't know the difference between a rational
and an irrational number."
You are guessing again, sir.
>>> And you claim an ability to compute numbers, yet screw up
>>> the most basic of all mathematical principles... that values
>>> cannot be obtained having greater significance than the
>>> significant digits within the mathematical computation.
>>> Whenever you make a measurement, that measurement
>>> is only as precise as the original significant digits being
>>> computed.
>>>
>>
>>" And you claim an ability to compute numbers"
>>
>>I made no such claim, sir.
>
> That's sad... you now admit you have no ability to compute numbers.
> Glad we agree with that.
I made no such claim, sir. Lack of a positive does not assert a negative,
sir.
>
>>> Chee... that's stuff you learn in the 7th grade, or earlier.
>>
>>Is that the last time you had any education, sir?
>
> We've already been through this, Sir shit-for-brains... See --
> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Maryland.jpg
> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Boston.jpg
> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/Transcript.jpg
>
A lot has changed in 22 years, sir. Of course, it is very easy to fake such
documents and you appear to have no qualifications relating to electrical
engineering, sir.
> See why I accuse you of slander and lies???
You accuse me of a lot of things, sir without knowing anything about me or
being able to back up your accusations. Of course, I find the irony as
funnier as that I find that you confuse slander with libel, sir.
For an "educated" man sir, you truly are stupid.
> Now where are your educational credentials?
In the bottom draw of the desk in my workshop, sir, where they shall stay. I
am under no obligation to show them to you, sir.
>
>>>>> and --
>>>>>
>>>>> cutoff frequency = 1/(2 x [pi] x R x c) = 1/(2 x 2.14 x 3.183 x 10^4
>>>>> x 10^-9) Hz
>>>>>
>>>>> thus reducing --
>>>>>
>>>>> cutoff frequency = 5 x 10^3 Hz = 5 KHz
>>>>>
>>>>> at cutoff frequency Xc = R = 3.183 x10^4 ohms = 31.83 K Ohms
>>>>>
>>>>> cutoff frequency = -3 db
>>>>
>>>>The question did not ask for the cutoff frequency or the db loss at cut
>>>>of
>>>>frequency. it Asked for the db loss and phase angled at 500 Cs, sir.
>>>
>>> Oh, gee... I must have not RTFQ. I like to solve practical
>>> problems, and knowing the cutoff frequency is more important
>>> than the parameters you asked about.
>>>
>>
>>"I must have not RTFQ"
>>
>>Indeed, sir.
>
> TRANSLATION "Indeed, sir.."
>
> I haven't seen you take a stab at any of my questions 2 or 3, Sir
> shit-for-brains.
That's right sir and there are still three questions you have not answered.
>>
>>You still have not answered your problem, sir.
>
> No.
Because you can't, sir.
>>
>>"Not only can you not solve it"
>>
>>A guess, sir.
>
> That's something you haven't even tried in respect to my problems
> I asked you to solve. While you can't even formulate your problems
> understandably.
>
"That's something you haven't even tried in respect to my problems"
That is true, sir. But your problems go deeper that a few numbers, sir.
>>>>Nonsense, sir. Ohms law applies electricity, whether it is DC or AC is
>>>>irrelevent. As AC is contantly in flux then that has to be taken into
>>>>account so impedence and phase angle are calculated.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>
>>There was no denial sir. There was only your apology of a response.
>
> It doesn't make the denier suddenly speak the truth when it is
> obvious that he speaks a lie.
>
> So your apology is accepted.
No apology was offered, sir. You're comments in respect to AC and ohms law
were wrong but you don't have the backbone to admit it, sir.
>>You have never proved any, sir.
>
> I've proved that your comments always show you are --
>
No you haven't, sir.
>>
>>You are an idiot, sir. What do you suppose you use to calculate the
>>current
>>through an ac circuit of the voltage across its capacitors or inductors?
>
> Kirchoff's law. Not Ohm's law.
Ohm's Law, you imbecile: E=I/Z is Ohm's law, not Kirchoff's! Do your
research, sir.
>
>>The Black arts? To calculate current, The formula is I=E/Z and to
>>calculate
>>the voltage across an inductor or capacitor the formula is Vl=I*XL and Vc
>>=
>>I*XC respectively.
>
> I = E/R is Ohm's law.
At last, the penny drops, sir.
Despite your ignorance of basic electronics, R
> is not = Z, or = C, or = L. All of which change instantaneously in an
> AC circuit, while R is a constant, and I and E can be computed using
> simple arithmetic, and instantaneous AC cannot be computed using
> simple arithmetic.
>
You moron, sir. Z=impedence, E IS EMF and I is current. Get an education,
sir.
>>"AC circuits are much more complicated than DC circuits"
>>
>>That is something else, we agree on, sir.
>>
>>"You couldn't solve even the easiest of differential equations."
>>
>>You are guessing, sir.
>
> I've already given you the easiest of differential equations.
No, sir. The easiest of differential equations include Y=X, Y=1 or Y=X^2
sir.
They are examples of the "easiest", sir.
"You have no idea how to even approach a solution. "
You are guessing again, sir.
>
>>> Kirchoff's law examines "nodes." Because the sum of the current
>>> flowing into any node must equal the sum of the current flowing out of
>>> any node. Both in steady DC and in instantaneous AC current, which
>>> changes depending upon the frequency and other factors, but always
>>> remains instantaneously the sum of the current flowing into that node
>>> equaling the sum of the current flowing out of that node.
>>
>>You should reference a text you copy information from or it's plagiarism,
>>sir.
>
> ROTFLMAO. This is common knowledge within all textbooks that
> examine Kirchoff's law.
There's more to it than that, sir. of course, your feeble attempt at mockery
does not diprove you copied that cite without referencing, sir.
"> It is not plagiarism to relate a scientific fact."
It is if you cite one without refrencing it, sir.
> The only thing you can argue are that my FACTS are wrong... and you
> know you can't do that.
They aren't your facts, sir.
>>>>
>>>>Very longwinded, sir. The correct formula is radians = degrees*pi/180
>>>>Of course you would have spotted that a complete circle is 2pi.
>>>
>>> That's exactly what I wrote, shit-for-brains. Other than I use
>>> 2.14159... an approximation for pi. Here it is again --
>>
>>No, sir you wrote.
>
> And what I wrote was as accurate as yours since pi is an irrational
> number, and cannot be expressed as a constant.. obviously. While
> we don't concern ourselves with degrees that have more than 6
> digits of accuracy. In fact, degrees in general only have at most
> three digits of accuracy, at which point further accuracy is usually
> stated in minutes, and seconds. Each degree being split up into 60
> minutes, and each minute being split up into 60 seconds.
"And what I wrote was as accurate as yours since pi is an irrational
> number"
You cannot state that Pi suddently starts with 2 any more than you can
declare the last three digits, sir.
.
>>> rad = degrees x (2.14159... /180)
>>>
>>> See it right above the list of various radians at degrees?
>>
>>the formula for converting degrees to radians is Radians=degrees*pi/180,
>>sir. That is not what you wrote.
>
> See the three dots following 2.14159...? That means in standard
> mathematics that this is an approximation. And it is a completely
> accurate approximation. We're not sending a rocket to Mars, Sir
> shit-for-brains. And you cannot possibly argue that pi is a
> constant. While I clearly showed the various important degrees
> in pi.
>
Pi starts with a 3, sir.
>>"I've been retired longer than you've been living."
>>
>>You're guessing, sir.
>
> And yet you've offered nothing that would refute my guess.
You've offered nothing to back your guess up, sir.
But
> even the thought that you are older than me, and have yet learned
> so little of life, sends shivers up my spine.
I have already stated that I am younger than you, sir.
Your words were: "I've been retired longer than you've been living."
How old were you when you retired sir?
>
>>> [1] see bottom of post.
>>>>
>>>>It was feeble sir. You got as far as working out the capacitive
>>>>reactance.
>>>>then you went off at a tangent.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>
>>There was no denial, sir. You mucked it up.
>
> It doesn't make the denier suddenly speak the truth when it is
> obvious that he speaks a lie. That seems to be your implication.
>
You mucked it up, sir.
>>
>>" knowledgeable when you're not"
>>
>>You're guessing, sir.
>
> And yet you've offered nothing that would disprove my comment.
You've offered nothing to back your guess up, sir.
>
>>" All in all you screwed it up pretty badly. "
>>
>>It that is what you call screwing up pretty badly then you need a life
>>sir.
>>Typographical errors are only a bad screwing when you are writing a paper
>>on
>>English language sir.
>
> "Education is the best provision for the journey to old age." --
> Aristotle.
Who mentioned education, sir? We were talking of typographical errors, sir.
>
>>On newsgroups it's minor at worst and only used as
>>ammunition for imbeciles like you whom can't win their arguments any other
>>way. I am still waiting for your answer to the very SIMPLE problem I gave
>>you.
>
> Heh... More ad hominem to cover up your lack of a proper
> education. See --
> http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/logic.html#hominem
Your avoidence of the problem is noted, sir. You are too great a coward to
admit that you cannot do it, sir.
>
>>
>>> "We're examining YOUR expertise, since you're the one blowing your
>>> horn about --
>>>
>>> "I'll bet you don't know what bayes theorum, linear regression mean,
>>> and I suspect you do not know the magic number in the plume encryption
>>> algorythm."
>>>
>>> See the quotation marks, shit-for-brains?? What makes you think I'd
>>> be as dumb as you and not know how to spell "theorem," and
>>> "algorithm"?
>>>
>>> There has seldom been a poster to AADP who is more in need of a spell
>>> checker than you, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>>
>>
>>As I said, sir, "Typographical errors are only a bad screwing when you are
>>writing a paper on English language sir. On newsgroups it's minor at worst
>>and only used as ammunition for imbeciles like you whom can't win their
>>arguments any other way".
>
> "Education is the best provision for the journey to old age." --
> Aristotle.
Who mentioned education, sir? We were talking of typographical errors, sir.
>>Perhaps you should invest in a Thesaurus, sir.
>
>
" I already have more of them then I need "
Well try using them from time to time, sir.
>>>
>>> Heh... the penny drops... And Death Disco is speechless.
>>
>>Wishful thinking on your part, sir.
>
> And yet that's all you have to say.
.
Which is not "speechless", sir. You screwed it up again, sir.
>>> No you didn't.
>>
>>Yes I did, sir.
>
> No you didn't, Sir shit-a-lot.
Yes I did, sir.
>>>
>>>>> If that question was too complicated for you I'll give you an easier
>>>>> one. Since you seem to claim familiarity with differential
>>>>> equations... solve this one. Understand that this is the EASIEST
>>>>> of all differential equation to solve, and is used over and over in
>>>>> solving motion equations related to gravitation -- This one should
>>>>> be a snap for you --
>>>>>
>>>>> Solve the differential equation d²x/dt² = -g
>>>>>
>>>>> With initial conditions x(0) = x(sub o) and v(0) = v(sub o)
>>>
>>> Heh.. got you going, eh? Gee... my boy... this solution is probably
>>> all over the net. It's a very general differential equation with no
>>> numbers involved... those numbers which always confuse you.
>>>
>>
>>"Heh.. got you going, eh?"
>>Wishful thinking on your part, sir.
>
> Heh heh... and yet not even an attempt. My goodness, DD... it's
> the SIMPLEST differential equation I know of.
It is sir. Then I suggest you learn differential calculus, sir.
>
>>You still have not answered your problem, sir. I have noted your repeated
>>efforts to avoid it.
>
> I don't have time for your bullshit,
Your lack of backbone to admit that it is beyond you has been noted, sir.
>
>>> You can't even pose your questions accurately. But let's take a quick
>>> stab at it --
>>
>>"You can't even pose your questions accurately"
>>Yes I can, sir. We shall see what your answer brings.
>
> "You just admitted you can't."
No I didn't, sir.
You said integration... I ignored it
I noticed that, sir, but did you know I was meaning to type "differentiate",
sir?
> because it made no sense... you realized it made no sense... you
> admitted you didn't pose your question accurately. Chee... what
> else do you want when I have your CONFESSION???
That was after the above comment, sir. Please pay attention.
>
>>> V=pi*R²*H = 1050 cm³
>>>
>>> with R being the radius and H being the height
>>>
>>> so H = 1050/(pi)*R²
>>>
>>> The surface area, including ends is --
>>>
>>> S=2*(pi)R*H + 2*(pi)*R²
>>>
>>> Substituting for H --
>>>
>>> S=2*1050/R + 2*(pi)*R²
>>>
>>> Setting dS/dR = 0 and solving the differential equation for R the
>>> answer is (V/2*(pi))^1/3 = R
>>>
>>> Reducing --> R=(1050/2*(pi))^1/3 = 5.508 cm
>>>
>>> Now that we have R, we can solve for H
>>>
>>> H=1050/(pi*)*R² = 11.017 cm
>>>
>>> Thus the closed cylinder has maximum surface area using minimum
>>> material at :
>>>
>>> Radius = 5.508 cm
>>> Height = 11.017 cm
>>>
>>> V = (pi)*5.508²*11.017 = 1050 cm³
>>>
>>
>>Impressive, sir. Your answer is correct.
>
> No, shit... Dick Tracy...
You do not handle praise very well, sir. I suppose that's because you never
get any.
>now when can we expect you to answer either
> of my questions, after fucking up the answer
Language, sir. I did sir. Nevertheless, I corrected. It is fortunate I was
not submitting it to anyone whose opinion matters. However, I am still
waiting to see you answer the simple problem I set for you. What was the
expression you used? "Overly complicated"
>to a very, very, trivial
> question regarding resonance.
As is this one, sir
Given you have a low pass filter with a resistor of 31830 ohms, and a
capacitor of 1 Nano Farad. at frequency of 500 Cs what is the DB loss and
the phase angle? You will have to work out the reactance first, sir.
"> So when you claimed that my approximation of pi was incorrect you
"> were full of shit.
Is that your proof, sir?
>In this problem, I did use a calculator, rather
> than pen and paper ... and entered pi symbolically, which provided an
> approximation dependent upon the range of the calculator I used. There
> is no such thing as an exact value of pi. They are ALL
> approximations. Thus my response was exactly as yours... an
> approximation! pi is an approximation.
Everyone starts Pi with a three, sir... well except for you that is.
>
>> I shall assume it's your own work.
>
> You can assume anything you wish, Sir shit-for-brains. It's a free
> country. You also assume that "something higher than ourselves,"
> talks to you. Now how about that easy problem with differential
> equations...
Would you rather I assumed that you copied it from a book, sir?
>
> Solve the differential equation d²x/dt² = -g
>
> With initial conditions x(0) = x(sub o) and v(0) = v(sub o)
>
> Solve it??? I don't even think you know how to even formulate it
> correctly! Let's see... first you need to integrate once with
> respect to "t." How does such a formula LOOK... much less ask you to
> to solve it. v(t) = ???? Come on, Sir shit-for-brains. You're so
> smart... what does the right side of that equation even LOOK LIKE???
> This is high school math. Show me what you got... so you can
> raise those knuckles that drag on the ground, and start thumping
> your chest in mindless hubris. --
>
> v(t) = ???
You haven't solved this one, yet:
Given you have a low pass filter with a resistor of 31830 ohms, and a
capacitor of 1 Nano Farad. at frequency of 500 Cs what is the DB loss and
the phase angle? You will have to work out the reactance first, sir.
>
> If you can't solve that one... I have nothing to prove.
>While
> even if you solve it, it is so simple that I would not even give
> you credit for solving it. There must be at least 10,000 sites
> on the Internet giving the proper notation to that next step.
> You don't answer it, we have determined the level of your
> education and intellect... and found it sorely lacking.
>
Wrong, sir. You have already stated that there is no point to me solving it.
However, if you solve this problem
Given you have a low pass filter with a resistor of 31830 ohms, and a
capacitor of 1 Nano Farad. at frequency of 500 Cs what is the DB loss and
the phase angle? You will have to work out the reactance first, sir.
I might and I mean, "might" overlook that you screwed up ohms law.
>>>>Given a three phase unbalanced supply, VL=400V, Z1=30,Z2=50 and Z3=40
>>>>ohm,
>>>>calculate phase voltage, Each line current and the power dissapated
>>>>across each line, sir.
>>>
>>> I don't have time for you to throw silly problem after problem at me,
>>> when you can't solve a very simple differential equation.
>>
>>You're guessing sir.
>
> I've already given you the easiest of differential equations.
Your puerile attempt to avoid the problem without having the backbone to
admit it has ben noted, sir.
>>>I can
>>> certainly throw problems at you that you have no idea how to even
>>> approach. Just how simple do you expect the problems I offer must be?
>>> Perhaps a little bit of algebra is the limit of your education? Beyes'
>>> Theorem, my ass.
>>
>>" certainly throw problems at you that you have no idea how to even
>>> approach"
>>
>>No, you cannot sir.
>
> Sure I can, shit-for-brains. I've already thrown three at you that
> you're afraid to even take a stab at.
There's two I've thrown at you which you haven't answered sir. I have a
third, for you.
You have a paralell tuned circuit with a resistance of 68 ohm, a resonant
frequency of 5khz, and an inductor of 145.4 mH. Calculate the capacitance.
That's three each now, sir.
>
>> Not when you failed to answer the simple DB problem I
>>gave you earlier.
>
> When you learn how to formulate your problems accurately you'll
> get better results. Offering mumbo-jumbo only shows your own
> ignorance.
Your puerile attempt to avoid the problem without having the backbone to
admit it has ben noted, sir.
>
>>"Given you have a low pass filter with a resistor of 31830 ohms, and a
>>capacitor of 1 Nano Farad. at frequency of 500 Cs what is the DB loss and
>>the phase angle? You will have to work out the reactance first, sir."
>
> Hell... here's one for you that does have a schematic along
> with the problem. Try to answer this one --
> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/circuit.jpg
>
Answer the problem I gave you sir.
> But make up your mind... I thought you claimed it was "accurate" to
> 318310.
>
>>> Once again -- how do you even APPROACH a solution to --
>>>
>>> Find the steady-state temperature distribution in the half-space z
>>> 0 if the temperature distribution u(r,0) = F(r) is maintained on the
>>> bounding plane face z = 0. Assume that F(r) satisfies the conditions
>>> for the existence of its Hankel transform [1]. Show your work.
>>> Your answer should be in the form of u(r,z) = ????
>>>
>>> Come on, smart-ass, what's the FIRST STEP in trying to solve
>>> this problem?
>>>
>>
>>Once again, "Given you have a low pass filter with a resistor of 31830
>>ohms,
>>and a capacitor of 1 Nano Farad. at frequency of 500 Cs what is the DB
>>loss
>>and the phase angle? You will have to work out the reactance first, sir."
>>
> Hell... here's one for you that does have a schematic along
> with the problem. Try to answer this one --
> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/circuit.jpg
>
>>> So there is no need to throw simple problems at me to cover up your
>>> own ignorance. Differential equations like the one I offered should
>>> be a snap for you. In fact I'm sure you could find the answer on the
>>> Internet.
>>>
>>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>>
>>Problems you cannot solve, sir.
>
> Wrong, sport... problems you can't formulate properly, poorly
> translated from some book in Dutch on "antennas." That you
> need to refer to when you try to bring your tin hat into
> resonance to hear the words of "something higher than ourselves,"
> who keeps telling you that "cockroaches have a right to life."
> Does that tin hat really require a 400 V load output?
>
>>You've only managed one and it wasn't an
>>electrical engineering problem sir. That sort of exposes your own
>>ignorance, sir.
>
> Hell... here's a positive electrical engineering problem for you that
> even has a schematic along with the problem. Try to answer this one
> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/circuit.jpg
>
> That's the way problems are supposed to be presented... rather than
> the mumbo-jumbo trash that you offer. No wonder you can't
> READ problems accurately... you can't even WRITE them properly.
>
>>> While the problem of finding the steady-state temperature distribution
>>> in the half-space z >0, with the parameters given is a more difficult
>>> problem that you will not find on the Internet. I don't believe even
>>> Earl could solve it. I admit that I couldn't without a _cheat sheet_.
>>>
>>
>>It's hardly a "simple" problem then, sir.
>>
> Yes... but you don't even know the first thing how to start.
>>
>>> But I can "understand" the solution in going through that _cheat
>>> sheet_. I'm quite sure that you couldn't.
>>
>>You're guessing, sir.
>>
> Well, prove it!
>
>
>
> *profound silence from Sir shit-for-brains*
>
>>
>>>I'll even you a hint --
>>> From reading the problem it is clear that the temperature "u" is
>>> independent of the polar angle theta. So we can set our initial
>>> parameters in the form of a differential equation set to zero.
>>> What is that differential equation? I don't even ask you to solve
>>> it. Just explain it in English. No need to show Jacobi delta partial
>>> derivative notation, since it is not a standard text character. Just
>>> explain how you would construct that partial differential that you
>>> would want to set to zero.
>>>
>>
>>Provide me with the references and sources you used and I shall see if I
>>can
>>figure it out but it doesn't read like an electrical engineering problem.
>>It
>>reads like a physics problem.
>
> Give you the source so you can look up the answer? You must be
> joking. However, the title of the source contains the word
> "Engineering."
>
>>>>> However, I have yet to see a single word from you that makes me
>>>>> believe you have received a proper education in the arts, and
>>>>> humanities. I have no idea of your natural given intelligence but it
>>>>> is obvious to me that your nurturing has been greatly injured. I have
>>>>> seldom met anyone with a mind that is so closed as yours is. The test
>>>>> of a man's intellect is that he finds pleasure in the exercise of his
>>>>> mind. Yours hasn't even been out for a walk in a very long time.
>>>>> Apparently it is too small and narrow-minded to be let out by itself.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"We'll work our way down until we find your level of knowledge"
>>>>
>>>>We have already found yours, sir.
>>>
>>> Which is far above what we've found with yours.
>>
>>A curious statement as you have managed to answer only one problem I posed
>>for you.
>
> While you have correctly answered not a one of mine. Hell... you have
> three waiting for you, and you can't even take a stab at any of them.
> I can keep 'em coming all day long... including putting the circuits
> up in my web page so you can't whine that they are not clear to you.
> As you did when you fucked up the only question I gave you that you
> even TRIED to answer.
>
>><snip>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember... when you point your finger at me, in "calling the kettle
>>>>> black," there are three fingers on that same hand pointing right back
>>>>> at you, sport.
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>As I said before, sir. They are pointing directly at you.
>
> Apparently you're also blind.
>
>>>>http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrite
>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorance
>>
>>
>>http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrite
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
>
> You're insane... by now even you must realize that your trolley has
> jumped the tracks. And that's no guess. That's a clinical diagnosis.
>
>>> Perhaps verbal pictures are too complicated for you, sonny. But this
>>> group is text only. So picture this as your hand pointing at me
>>> in respect to "pot... kettle..." and examine it. See --
>>> http://tinyurl.com/2vwejyl
>>
>>
>>"Perhaps verbal pictures are too complicated for you, sonny"
>>
>>
>>Basic electrical principles are too complicated for you, evidently sir.
>
> Heh... I haven't seen any picture of electrical principles from you,
> Sir shit-for-brains.
>
> Hell... here's a positive electrical engineering problem for you that
> even has a schematic along with the problem. Try to answer this one
> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/circuit.jpg
>
> I've got hundreds of them.
>
>>>>>>I was answering your debate, sir.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're guessing that I'm guessing... which makes your guess nothing
>>>>> but hot air.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No, sir. You have no basis to back up your assertions, so they can only
>>>>be
>>>>guesses.
>>>
>>> An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
>>
>>
>>Exactly my point, sir. As I said, "You have no basis to back up your
>>assertions, so they can only be guesses"
>>
> You're the one asserting that I'm guessing. Prove it. I've
> got the proof.
>
> I've already given you the easiest of differential equations. You
> have no idea how to even approach a solution. IMO, differential
> equations are far above both your educational level and your
> intellect. You have offered nothing that would prove me wrong
> in my belief. If you did not have the resource of the Internet
> I doubt seriously you could even describe what a differential
> equation even is.
>
>>>>>>It was not a cite, sir, so no reference is required.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Your unreferenced site (sic) is inadmissable (sic)"
>>>>
>>>>The word is "cite", sir.
>>>
>>> That's why I followed it with a (sic), you moron. See --
>>> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/sic
>>> Quote -- "Used to indicate that a quoted passage, especially one
>>> containing an error or unconventional spelling, has been retained in
>>> its original form or written intentionally."
>>>
>>
>>"That's why I followed it with a (sic), "
>>
>>Which was incorrectly placed sir.
>
> Wrong, Sir shit-for-brains. It was placed quite accurately. Since
> both your use of "site" and your misspelling of "inadmissible,"
> required mention that it was garbage English.
>>
>>> Keep in mind that YOU originally misspelled both
>>> "cite" and "inadmissible" in your original comment as
>>> shown. I'm just showing your inability to spell check your
>>> comments, when they desperately need spell checking. See --
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/735c577f27d0b75f
>>> Look for it down at the bottom of your own message,
>>> shit-for-brains.
>>>
>>
>>"Keep in mind that YOU originally misspelled both "cite""
>>
>>
>>
>>No Didn't sir.
>
> Yes, you did, Sir shit-for-brains. I've even shown you the
> proof that exists in your own words that you posted to AADP.
> Once again, because you seem deaf, dumb and blind when
> I show PROOF... See --
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/735c577f27d0b75f
> Look for it down at the bottom of your own message,
> Sir shit-for-brains.
>
> How's it feel to be caught lying again??? Man, I'm getting rich
> off you... that's another ten spot my friend owe me.
>
>>> You know there are FREE spell-checkers available on
>>> the Internet. You should use one. Just search Google
>>> for "free spell checker."
>>
>>As I said, sir, "Typographical errors are only a bad screwing when you are
>>writing a paper on English language sir. On newsgroups it's minor at worst
>>and only used as ammunition for imbeciles like you whom can't win their
>>arguments any other way".
>
> You can say it forever, and it won't for a single second hide your
> shown ignorance of the English language.
>
> "Education is the best provision for the journey to old age." --
> Aristotle. You only show your lack of an education when you try to
> defend your ignorance that shows in your words, Sir shit-for-brains.
> You're one of the few posters to Usenet who seems proud of his
> lack of an education, insisting I can't point it out.
>
>>Perhaps you should invest in a Thesaurus, sir.
>
> And yet that's all you have to say. Repetitive mindless drivel. A
> very sad commentary on your ignorance of the English language,
> as you attempt denial while having rolled yourself up in the fetal
> position in a corner of your dark room.
>>
>>>>
>>>>No I don't sir. Wait a can hear your voice now. It's a high pitched
>>>>meaningless whine.
>>>
>>> No... that's the sound of those cockroaches that you protect from
>>> being "murdered" (sic). ROTFLMAO. Death Disco --> AADP's
>>> cockroach protector. Won't let anything harm his "poor
>>> innocent cockroach," insisting that killing a cockroach is defined
>>> as "murder" to him.
>>>
>>
>>"No"
>>
>
> Yes.
>
>>It's definately your voice, sir.
>
> Too bad your comment only again displays your ignorance of the
> English language. It can only take so much abuse, you know?
> Soon she will bite you back... the word is spelled "definitely," Sir
> shit-for-brains. A Thesaurus would have showed you that. Why
> don't you buy one?
>
>>> In any case, your argument when put into logical terms is "x is
>>> something higher than ourselves." and "x is an unknown." But
>>> you know that "x is something higher than ourselves," So
>>> "x is not unknown to Death Disco." qed -- Death Disco claims to
>>> "know the unknown."
>>
>>Nonsense, dear fellow. It is unknown therefor I cannot know it.
>
> But you said you _know_ it. You said it was "something higher
> than ourselves." Well, how could that be if you didn't hear it from
> "it"? Who told you? Oh, wait... it's that Bible talking to you
> again... never mind.
>
>>
>>Simple logic, sir.
>
> ROTFLMAO. Doesn't that word stick in your craw, considering you
> have no idea what it really means???
>
>>>>>>> Quite right... so why do you keep claiming cites without references,
>>>>>>> shit-for-brains?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't, sir.
>>>>>
>>>>> You did so just above, shit-for-brains.
>>>>
>>>>No I didn't, sir.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>
>>
>>
>>Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar,
>>sir.
>>
> It doesn't make the denier suddenly speak the truth when it is
> obvious that he speaks a lie. I'm simply pointing out that your
> entire argument is based upon denial of what you've clearly
> argue... it's that two-faced nature of yours.
>
>>>
>>> Yes, you did, shit-for-brains. Of course you did. Your words are
>>> still shown above.. The words "You change them, sir." That's an
>>> unfounded accusation, and an assertion lacking a referenced cite
>>> is inadmissible. Why do you continue to lie? Are you simply a
>>> pathological liar, are you simply stupid, or what is the reason
>>> you need to lie?
>>>
>>"Yes, you did".
>>
>>No I didn't, sir.
>
> See above... PROOF positive. Poor ol' Sir shit-for-brains... caught
> in yet another lie.
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No you don't, sir.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I do. You most certainly insisted there is this "right to life"
>>>>> for all biological life, especially cockroaches." And you insisted
>>>>> that you KNOW this because of "something higher than ourselves."
>>>>> Which you insist is an UNKNOWN. Yet you argue that you do
>>>>> know it, otherwise how would you have come into that information
>>>>> from the one you claim gave that very "right to life to cockroaches"?
>>>>> It's simple logic... you're the one who argued it exists. You're the
>>>>> who argued it comes from "something higher than ourselves."
>>>>> Well how can you have come into that information about a "right
>>>>> to life for cockroaches" if you did not heard it from the very person
>>>>> you claim is responsible for it? Who told you if not that "something
>>>>> higher than ourselves"? Does "it" have special "angels" that talk to
>>>>> you, passing you messages second-hand from "something higher than
>>>>> ourselves"? Further you said it is an "unknown." Well, how the hell
>>>>> do you know of it, if it's an "unknown"?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Yes, I do."
>>>>
>>>>No you don't, sir.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>
>>
>>
>>Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar,
>>sir.
>
> It doesn't make the denier suddenly speak the truth when it is
> obvious that he speaks a lie.
>>>
>>> Answer the question. Given that there is proof that you claim to know
>>> of "something higher than ourselves," and you claim that it is an
>>> "unknown," how do you know it is "something higher than ourselves,"
>>> if it is "unknown"? You argue along the lines of A = 5, but A =
>>> "unknown," except YOU know that A =5.
>>>
>>
>>"Given that there is proof that you claim to know of "something higher
>>than
>>ourselves,"
>>
>>
>>No I don't sir.
>
> So now you're denying that there is "something higher than
> ourselves"??? Good grief, Sir shit-for-brains... your whole rotted
> Bible-thumping empire is crumbling down. Next thing we know you'll
> begin arguing that a man's life is worth more than the life of a
> cockroach.
>
>>>>> Obviously you've just piled lie upon lie upon lie. And now even deny
>>>>> you wrote it... but I have the evidence. See --
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/fc1729e6f9101be5
>>>>> Here it is, sport... your words enshrined forever in Google. Proof
>>>>> that you stated -- "We do not have the to (sic) say who has the right
>>>>> to life. That honour is strictly owned by something higher than
>>>>> ourselves." And when I asked how you came about this information
>>>>> in my words -- "Who would that be?" You responded in one word -
>>>>> "Unknown." See --
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/92a6b831782818bf
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Really sir; if you cannot win an argument without lying then you should
>>>>not
>>>>be allowed to play.
>>>
>>> [2] see bottom of post. While it is "play" rather than any need to
>>> put any effort into it to grind your paedomorphic arguments to dust.
>>
>>
>>That explains why you keep losing, sir.
>>
> Haven't lost any money yet, Sir shit-for-brains. BTW --
> Here's a positive electrical engineering problem for you that even
> has a schematic along with the problem. Try to answer this one
> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/circuit.jpg
>
> I've got hundreds of them. Educate yourself. At my age, if it were
> not for the words of Aristotle I would not need further education.
> But as Aristotle wrote -- "All men by nature desire to know." It's
> what separates us from your "poor creature," the cockroach.
> Right now I'm trying to plumb the depths of your ignorance of
> all things... and I have yet to sound bottom.
>
>><snip>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>" If it's "unknown," sport... how do you KNOW it?"
>>>>
>>>>I do not, sir.
>>>
>>> Ah, but you said it is "something higher than ourselves." How
>>> do you know there is "something" and how do you know whether
>>> that imaginary "something" is "higher" or "lower" than
>>> ourselves? If it's an "unknown" you can't possibly know
>>> that it is "something," or "higher or lower than ourselves."
>>
>>
>>
>>"How do you know there is "something" "
>>
>>
>>
>>I do not, sir. It is unknown.
>
> And yet... you claim to "know." Quite an enigma. But then your
> Bible often does present enigmas. Like it announces that it "knows"
> Jesus is _the son of God_. and you know there is "something
> higher than ourselves." Although you've never seen or touched
> "it"... so someone or something must have told you about "it."
> We are not BORN with the idea that there is "something higher
> than ourselves." Quite the contrary... the id presumes there is
> nothing higher than our personal self. Thus it is not a "natural"
> object, that we can touch and feel.
>
>>>> If I did then it wouldn't be unknown therefore it would be
>>>>known but it's unknown. Am I going too fast for you, sir?
>>>
>>> Shit, son... you drove off the track days ago. You certainly
>>> insisted it was "known" to you as "something higher than
>>> ourselves." Was "it" in the shape of an Easter Bunny, or Santa
>>> Claus, or the Tooth Fairy? Did "it" have a big halo on its
>>> head? Was "it" thumping the Bible in tune with your thumping?
>>> Did "it" have the body of a cockroach and the head of bin Laden?
>>> The world wants to know... and only you claim to "know."
>>
>>"Shit, son"
>>
>>I shall take that as a yes.
>
> Take it any way you want to... it's a free country... and you are free
> to be as ignorant and uneducated as you desire. If you feel like
> me telling you your argument is shit, is a "yes," that only shows
> who's the real idiot.
>
>>>>>>No, sir. The BRITISH word is "Mummy". "Mommy" is not used here. I know
>>>>>>because I live here, sir. You do not, sir.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't give a rat's ass that you live in the U.K. I live in the
>>>>> U.S., and if I want to use words that are from the U.S. you'll
>>>>> just have to suck it up like a man. Now address the issue of
>>>>> your xenophobia, which is showing in your claim that I have
>>>>> to use YOUR particular wording... when you can't even spell!!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> [1] see bottom of post.
>>>
>>>>That is irrelevant, sir. You only know American English (sic), sir.
>>>
>>> Hey.. you finally tried to use a (sic). I'm impressed.
>>> But you still haven't grasped the idea behind it because
>>> "American English" is spoken by as many English speaking
>>> humans, as is "U.K. English."
>>>
>>
>>"Hey.. you finally tried to use a (sic)."
>>
>>
>>You wrong again, sir. I did not try to use a '(sic)'; I used a (sic)
>
> Yeah... but you didn't use it correctly, so you only "tried" to
> use it. The word English is a proper word in the English
> language. While it is only your xenophobia and native-tongue
> of Tigrinya that takes closed-minded offense at the term
> "American English."
>
>>> Now if you could only learn and try to "remember" what you
>>> learn about the Holocaust.
>>
>>I learn what a need about the holocaust from those who do "remember" it
>>sir,
>>and not some anally retentive American who was nowhere near the "shit when
>>it hit the fan".
>
> ROTFLMAO... That from the guy who denied the Holocaust.
> What humongous chutzpah (look it up in your tiny pocket
> English dictionary, Sir shit-for-brains).
>
>>>
>>> There are relatively few changes in spelling between UK
>>> English and U.S. English, while both have their separate
>>> idioms and slang expressions. I'm familiar with just
>>> about all UK idioms and slang expressions, and sometimes
>>> I even use them... but in the end I'm American... and
>>> you are xenophobic.
>>>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>>
>>> The argument that only the English spoken and written in the UK
>>> can be used in AADP, is simply another manifestation of your
>>> xenophobia. I prefer to use the English that I learned in my
>>> primary education. Why don't you do the same and disappear
>>> to a site where Tigrinya is the language used?
>>
>>>
>>> It's tragicomic that someone like you, with such a feeble grasp of any
>>> form of the English language, should have the cheek to
>>> insist upon what one can or cannot offer in respect to the recognized
>>> English language in the U.S. I ignore a great deal of spelling
>>> errors and grammatical mistakes, except when one uses his own
>>> grammatical mistakes or spelling errors in either personally
>>> attacking me in ad hominem, or offering the most illogical
>>> arguments, or just outright lying.
>>>
>>
>>Pot? Pot? This is kettle; colour check please.
>>http://www.merriam-webster.com/netdict/hypocrite
>
> Remember... when you point your finger at me, in "calling the kettle
> black," there are three fingers on that same hand pointing right back
> at you, "pot." See --
> http://tinyurl.com/2vwejyl
>
>>>>> This group was created by a poster now long gone named
>>>>> "Etan Ben-Ami" in 1993. He was a member of the "National
>>>>> Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty," and as far as I know
>>>>> was not European, since that coalition is based in Washington,
>>>>> D.C. There is no recognized body that has ruled that U.K.
>>>>> English is the only language permitted in AADP. Nonetheless,
>>>>> I don't correct you when you use the spelling of "honour," while in
>>>>> the U.S. it is spelled "honor." If you insist we use YOUR type of
>>>>> spelling that is xenophobia. I am open minded and you can
>>>>> use either U.K. English or U.S. English. I just wish you'd use
>>>>> it CORRECTLY!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I do, sir. You are the fellow who repeatedly attempts to redefine words,
>>>>sir.
>>>
>>> Wrong, sport. I have your words -- "if i do not approve of a
>>> definition I simply choose not to use it." Now that's attempting
>>> to "redefine" words insisting that only YOUR definitions apply.
>>> And then you had the chutzpah to say in more of your double-speak --
>>> "The dictinary (sic) definition is just a string of words to you,
>>> apparently."
>>>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>
>>Which you have proved on every occasion
>
> Well, finally you admit the truth.
>
>>> Apparently "dictinary" (sic) definitions are NOT EVEN "a string of
>>> words to you," since you admit you ignore definitions that expose your
>>> ignorance
>>
>
>>Oh, dear sir. that's worthy of three. Those three are:.
>>
>>
>>As I said, sir, "Typographical errors are only a bad screwing when you are
>>writing a paper on English language sir. On newsgroups it's minor at worst
>>and only used as ammunition for imbeciles like you whom can't win their
>>arguments any other way".
>
> You only show your lack of an education when you try to
> defend your ignorance that shows in your words, Sir shit-for-brains.
> You're one of the few posters to Usenet who seems proud of his
> lack of an education, while insisting I can't point it out.
>
>> Perhaps you should invest in a Thesaurus, sir.
>
> I already have more of them then I need to handle the likes of
> you. It's stunningly farcical and grotesque for you to say that I
> should invest in a Thesaurus, when you insisted that if you don't like
> a definition you don't accept it.
>
> <fx: Death Disco rushes to his pocket English dictionary to look
> up the meaning of the word "farcical." Believing it has something
> to do a cycle that goes a long distance>
>
> And yet that's all you have to say. A very sad attempt at denial
> while you have rolled yourself up in the fetal position in a corner
> of your dark room.
>>
>> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrite
>
> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/psychotic
>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorance
>
>>Really sir; if you cannot win an argument without lying then you should
>>not
>>be allowed to play.
>>
> Don't you ever get tired of repeating the same ol' mindless drivel???
>
> Really, little boy, if you cannot win an argument you should
> not try to claim victory by calling the other a liar with no proof.
>
>>>>> However, let's again be frank... it would not matter if I did oppose
>>>>> the U.S. Death Penalty, since my argument with you is about your
>>>>> Holocaust denial, your racist comments and your underlying
>>>>> stupidity (which I hope is not genetic but rather a product of
>>>>> cruel and unusual nurturing).
>>>>
>>>>"my argument with you is about your Holocaust denial, "
>>>>
>>>>I have made no such denial, sir.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>
>>
>>Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar,
>>sir.
>
> Don't you ever get tired of repeating the same ol' mindless drivel???
>
> You're insane... by now even you must realize that your trolley has
> jumped the tracks. Reading your lengthy repetitive drivel is like
> staring at a cow for forty-five minutes of my life.
>
>>>
>>> Of course you have. Your words -- "You do not remember what is not in
>>> your memory and it is not in your memory if you did not experience or
>>> witness it first hand." And more of your words -- "You cannot forget
>>> or remember the extermination of 6 million jews (sic) unless you
>>> remember them." And more of your words -- "You cannot forget or
>>> remember the extermination of 6 million jews (sic) unless you remember
>>> them and to remember them you must have experienced them first hand."
>>> And then asserting as some kind of fact that the JEWS could
>>> "remember" the Holocaust -- "Only if they were there, dear fellow."
>>> Now that's insisting that OTHERS cannot "remember" the Holocaust,
>>> which is absolutely clear "Holocaust denial."
>>
>>
>>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>>
>>
>>
>>No I haven't, sir.
>
> Yes, you have. Anyone can see it if they look at your words. You
> cannot deny FACT.
>>
>>>
>>> Clearly arguments meant to insist that no one should remember the
>>> Holocaust unless they actually TOOK PART IN IT, as either a Nazi, or a
>>> Jew are meant to deny the Holocaust. I remember you also wrote in
>>> great hypocrisy -- "The events of that atroicity (sic) are long since
>>> over and those who commited (sic) them are also gone. Our best chance
>>> is to learn from it, but we won't." Well, shit, sport... How can we
>>> "learn from it," when you insist we cannot even "remember it"???
>>>
>>> Not since Janus have we seen a more two-faced poster to AADP than
>>> you are. And that's a looong time ago. After the Greeks... but I
>>> "remember" the Romans.
>>
>>
>>Your logic is erroneous, sir.
>
>
> ROTFLMAO. Doesn't that word stick in your craw, considering you
> have no idea what it really means???
>
> Your arguments take on the method of arguing that -
>
> Joe is the father of Tom
> Tom is the father of Sam
> So Joe is the father of Sam!
>
> Sophism where the deception lies hidden in the for of the
> presumed syllogism. You'll have to look up the big words,
> Sir shit-for-brains.
>
>>>
>>>>"your racist comments "
>>>>
>>>>I have made no racist comments, sir.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>
>>
>>
>>Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar,
>>sir.
>
> It doesn't make the denier suddenly speak the truth when it is
> obvious that he speaks a lie. That seems to be your implication.
> I've already proven why I believe you are a racist. You certainly
> hope to protect racists by insisting that there is no "Black race,"
> thus there cannot be racism against something that doesn't exist.
>
>>>
>>> Of course you have... Your words -- "There are no blacks," and
>>> your words " I've never met a person who has black skin," and
>>> your words "I've never met one because there aren't any." Denying
>>> there is a definition of a "Black" race, and hoping to challenge the
>>> fact that racism is used against that "Black" race. A race you insist
>>> does not exist, thus racism cannot exist against someone who
>>> is Black... because NO ONE is Black according to you. That's one of
>>> the more innovative attempts to challenge the argument that racism
>>> exists I've seen in some time.
>>
>>
>>
>>"Of course you have"
>>
>>No I haven't sir.
>
> LOL... I show it... and you deny it. How many lies do you intend
> to heap upon other lies?
>
>>"There are no blacks,"
>>
>>Is not racist, dear fellow.. Are you unable to distinguish brown from
>>black,
>>sir? Are you colour blind or just a short sighted old fool?
>
> It's a cover for racism. If there are no Blacks, your argument is
> that it is impossible for anyone to be racist against a race that
> doesn't exist. You can't follow the dots when I connect them
> for you.
>
>>
>>>
>>> Others, knowing the English language far better than you, expressed
>>> astonishment at your comment. I do more than that... I call
>>> a spade a spade in AADP. And I have seldom found comments more
>>> racially offensive than dismissing an entire race of humans, as
>>> if they have no "real existence."
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gee... how did you "remember" all that, given that you've stated --
>>>>> "You do not remember what is not in your memory and it is not in your
>>>>> memory if you did not experience or witness it first hand."
>>>>>
>>>>> You actually experienced or witnessed the Greeks??? You naughty boy,
>>>>> you!!!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Remember what, sir? Are you still clutching at straws?
>>>>
>>> Well, you "remembered" there were the Greeks. But I like the way you
>>> refer to wikipedia, and then dismiss it as inaccurate when I refer to
>>> it. More of your two-faced arguments, accompanied by a juicy
>>> assortment of your lies.
>>>
>>
> http://www.angelfire.com/mac/egmatthews/worldinfo/europe/hegemony.html
>
> So you had to look it up. ROTFLMAO. While you still have
> no idea what it means or how to apply it to an argument.
>>
>>There still are Greeks, sir. You can find them in Greece.
>
> I'm sure you've had "contact" and have "experienced them
> first hand." But spare us the sordid details, while I'm sure you
> "remember" them. This is a family oriented newsgroup.
>
>>>>>>An unreferenced cite is inadmissible
>>>>>
>>>>> Quite true... so why did you claim that you're a blockhead?
>>>>
>>>>I did not, sir.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>
>>
>>
>>Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar,
>>sir.
>>
> Don't you ever get tired of repeating the same ol' mindless drivel???
>
> Oh, well -- It doesn't make the denier suddenly speak the truth when
> it is obvious that he speaks a lie. That seems to be your
> implication.
>
>>> Now.... now... don't get angry... Of course you did. You recognized
>>> that I had clipped your words, and you accepted that I had, in the
>>> words I had offered, Sir Blockhead.
>>>
>>
>>There are certainly involuntary muscle movements occuring sir. They are a
>>result of my laughter,
>
> More like the involuntary muscle movements of your sphincter in
> fear...
>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you cannot argue without lying then you should not be allowed to
>>>>>>>>play
>>>>>>>>at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why do you keep offering cites without references, shit-for-brains?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I do not, sir.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrite
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
>>>>>>
>>>>> ROTFLMAO... It's too late, sport... you already turned in your
>>>>> examination without offering cites or references. Trying to do
>>>>> it now... is locking the barn door after the cows have moved on.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No I didn't sir.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>
>>
>>
>>Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar,
>>sir.
>
>
> Chee.... It doesn't make the denier suddenly speak the truth when it
> is obvious that he speaks a lie. That seems to be your implication.
>
> You're a broken record... and do so because you can't raise a
> reasonable contradiction to my proofs.
>
>>>
>>> Yes, you did, sport... Here it is again... See --
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/71dc5a37c3ec1e13
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>No I did not, "sport".
>
> Look at the proof, Sir shit-for-brains.
>
>>> This comment of yours predates any correction you might have had
>>> after taking a piss. Notice in your comment you CHANGE the
>>> parameter given in the question. It doesn't matter that what you
>>> provided was the exact speed of light in a vacuum. It was a question
>>> in which calculators, and references were not permitted. If you had
>>> used pen and paper you would still be scratching your head in
>>> trying to figure it out, and guessing at the exact speed of light in
>>> a vacuum rather than RTFQ. Kids of today don't know how to add and
>>> subtract without a calculator. You go to a grocery store, and the
>>> bill is $3.50 and you give the teen-age cashier $5.50, and she looks
>>> like you're crazy because you gave her the $0.50 and it doesn't
>>> compute in her brain. She only knows how to enter something
>>> higher than the charge, and knows only that $5.00 is enough.
>>> She needs the register to do her arithmetic for her, and suspects
>>> you're trying to give her a tip.
>>>
>>
>>" It was a question
>>> in which calculators, and references were not permitted"
>>
>>
>>
>>My dear, good fellow; you do not have any authority to tell me what tools
>>to
>>use to solve a problem.
>
> Rubbish. All testers have the authority to tell those who take tests
> what sources and assets are available to the student. Chee... have
> you ever ACTUALLY taken a test? Sometimes you even have
> to use the pencil THEY provide, and cannot use your own.
>
>>If I choose to use a calculator or a cite then or
>>even an abacus or even a Cray then that is my choice and you have no say
>>in
>>the matter, sir.
>
> And in doing so managed to fuck up the answer... didn't you?
> That was a big laugh. All those flipping numbers... and you end
> up with the wrong result in terms of the parameters stated in the
> problem. I had a big laugh with that one. Smart-ass overload.
>
>>>>> Remember... when you point your finger at me, in "calling the kettle
>>>>> black," there are three fingers on that same hand pointing right back
>>>>> at you, sport.
>>>>
>>>>No, dear fellow. They all point at you.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>>
>>
>>Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar,
>>sir.
>
> Don't you ever get tired of repeating the same mindless drivel?
> It doesn't make the denier suddenly speak the truth when it is
> obvious that he speaks a lie. That seems to be your implication.
>>
>>> You're the one pointing the finger at me with "pot... kettle...
>>> black," shit-for-brains. Wait... this is too complicated for you.
>>> Imagine that this is your hand... I hope this picture helps you...
>>> http://tinyurl.com/2vwejyl
>>
>>
>>
>>"You're the one pointing the finger at me with "pot... kettle...
>>> black"
>>
>>
>>
>>Fingers, sir. Plural.
>
> More of your illogical inventions of words not used. In any
> case, you don't even understand the concept of "plural" in the
> English language, having screwed up the argument about
> "one having an opinion."
>
>>> Check out those three fingers of YOUR hand.
>>
>>
>>I have a total of five digits on each hand and I am pointing them at you,
>>even the thumb.
>
> That would be you waving goodbye to every brain you've ever had.
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>>>>>You believe in a god, sir?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is the word "if" (a conditional clause) too complicated for you? IF
>>>>> you were a bird you could fly. But you aren't a bird.
>>>>
>>
>>"Is the word "if" (a conditional clause)"
>>
>>Yes it is sir.
>
> Well, then... wake up!!
>
>>"IF you were a bird you could fly. But you aren't a bird"
>>
>>
>>
>>I could fly in an aeroplane, sir.
>
> No. sport... it's the "aeroplane" that flies. Not you. If you
> could jump on the back of one of your dragons, he could
> fly... but YOU'LL never be able to fly. English is much too
> complicated for you. You CANNOT fly. You can TAKE
> an airplane, and IT will fly you to whatever destination
> you've paid to go to. And that's it. You can flap your
> arms as hard as you want... and you will not fly.
>
> In any case... read my word, Sir shit-for-brains. It refers
> to BIRDS... and doesn't even say that YOU can't fly but
> that IF you were a bird you could fly. But, given that
> you also hear voices I suspect you also believe you can be
> transmogrified into a bird, simply by stepping into the
> teleporter from StarTrek. Perhaps a carrion eating bird...
> it would certainly be apposite (look that word up in your handy
> pocket English dictionary).
>
>>>>I ended my comment with a question mark, sir. I was asking you a
>>>>question.
>>>
>>> Well... I don't believe in a God. Certainly not one who figures that
>>> all biological life, down to viruses and mosquitoes must be given some
>>> "right to life." Nor do I consider cockroaches to be equal to human
>>> beings as you have insisted.
>>>
>>
>>"I don't believe in a God"
>>
>>You don't, sir? Then why do you keep asking it to strike me down?
>
> Are you still confused about the word "if," Sir shit-for-brains???
> But trust me... if would no big loss to humanity. Although
> cockroaches might attend your funeral. With cockroaches,
> mourning the loss of their "champion," who insists they are
> each the equal of a human being, up to the neck of everyone
> around it. No greater love hath man... than Death Disco for
> the cockroach.
>
>><snip>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>I have not killed anyone sir.
>>>
>>> So that's your excuse for the slaughter of the Tutsis in Africa????
>
>>
>>You perceive that innocence is an excuse? Curious.
>
> When you're part of the problem!!! Let's see... there were close
> to a million Tutsis slaughtered by Hutus supported by French
> weapons and French diplomatic and military assistance.
> How many cockroaches are those close to a million Tutsis
> WORTH to YOU??? No equivocating now... just give me a
> number of how many cockroaches you would "murder" (sic)
> to save those close to a million Tutsis? You see why you're
> part of the problem??? It's because you're afraid to answer
> when you have already answered: that to you one cockroach
> is worth EXACTLY one human... no more... no less.
>
>>> The problem is you are two-faced. You accuse all Americans
>>> of being involved in killings elsewhere, while you ignore the
>>> genocide perpetrated by your own people.
>>>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>
>>http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrite
>
> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/psychotic
>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
>>
> http://tinyurl.com/2vwejyl
>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>
>>
>>My own people, sir? I believe that I never revealed who my people are.
>
> Oh... so you're ABOVE the human race. Now your other arguments
> make perfect sense. You're psychotic!! And xenophobic as well.
>
>>>>>>>> In perspective, your people have had thier fair share
>>>>>>>>of bloodshed, sir.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do you remember that? Did you experience the U.S 300 years ago?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's called "an education", sir.
>>>>>
>>>>> So you've never received an "education" about the Holocaust. And then
>>>>> you wonder why I pity the lack of nurturing you have received in
>>>>> your life
>>>>
>>>>I received much education about the holocaust, sir.
>>>
>>> Yet you insist you "remember" NOTHING. And charge everyone else
>>> with your diktat that _no one_ can remember unless they "experienced
>>> it first hand." That's not an "education," when you take a nap during
>>> lessons.
>>>
>>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>
>>I do remember nothing.
>
> How true!! Oh course you don't. You've demonstrated that in just the
> past few days, when you forget what you wrote, and then lie in
> denying you wrote it. But the word "do" was unnecessary, since
> it doesn't alter your claim that "I remember nothing."
>
>> I wasn't at the holocaust. I do remember much of my
>>education, however.
>
> You mean arithmetic. Big deal. But again we have your
> two-faced claim. 1) You state "I do remember NOTHING."
> and then you state 2) "I do remember much of my education."
>
> Which is it???
>
>>
>>>>> See above... Be sure to ask the Pope to bless you for saving the lives
>>>>> of murderers... I understand he doesn't give a fuck about Blacks in
>>>>> Africa either.... just like you.
>>>>
>>>>I care not for the pope, sir.
>>>
>>> I don't believe you. You have ever right to deny it... but I have
>>> every right to not believe you. For all anyone knows, you may
>>> believe that he is that "something higher than ourselves," that
>>> you insist has given "the right to life to all biological life."
>>
>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>
>>That is your problem, sir.
>
> How can the fact that you insist you hear voices from "something
> higher than ourselves," possibly be MY problem?
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>
>>
>>Oh please, sir. Once cannnot watch the news without hearing about someone
>>your people bombed.
>>
>
> "In respect to the death penalty"!!! Can't you ever read my words
> without distorting them, and lying about it???
>
> If you're on one of your anti-American pouting tantrums there are many
> sites that will accommodate you. But clearly, Europe, living in the
> glass house that it does, should not be throwing stones at the U.S.
> The 20th Century was the bloodiest century in the history of
> mankind. And what continent was responsible for that blood???
>
> I'll be the last one to deny the failures of U.S. foreign policy for
> the past 40 years. When can we see you admit that Europe was
> responsible for the bloodiest slaughter in the history of man
> during the 20th Century???
>
>>> While Europe continues to fancy Africa as part of her colonial
>>> empire, and will commit murder and genocide if doing so can
>>> maintain hegemony over the indigenous population and the
>>> mineral resources of Africa.
>>
>>Your xenophobia is showing again, sir.
>
> Actually it's Europe's xenophobia, in hoping to maintain hegemony
> (look up the word and see what it means, rather than just using
> it in your mindless drivel) in Africa... as if Africa is a "European
> colony." See --
> http://www.angelfire.com/mac/egmatthews/worldinfo/europe/hegemony.html
>
>>>
>>> We had war declared on us, and our sovereign territory invaded
>>> and taken over, when Iranians stormed our embassy and kept
>>> diplomatically protected American citizens as hostages. I
>>> would have had no problem with declaring war on Iran, and
>>> invading that country regardless of what might have happened
>>> to those hostages. Iran needed to be taught a harsh lesson
>>> about diplomatic immunity, and the sovereignty of embassies.
>>> Khomeini was the "supreme leader" of Iran, and his single
>>> comment of "release them," would have resulted in instant
>>> release... instead he supported the storming of that sovereign
>>> embassy, and taking those with diplomatic immunity into
>>> hostages. That was a clear act of war. And Europe stood
>>> silent, refusing to condemn Iran... because of a thing called
>>> "oil."
>>>
>>> As it was, our milksop president at the time, Jimmy Carter, instead
>>> wasted lives in a crude attempt to rescue those hostages which
>>> would not have been successful even if there was not that disaster
>>> with the helicopters. Don't tell me about doing things OUR way.
>>>
>>
>>As I said, your country is as knee deep in blood as everyone else, sir.
>
> So that excuses "everyone else"??? While historically you're totally
> full of shit... and I've proved it by listing how deep the blood has
> ran in Europe.
>
> I'll be the last one to deny the failures of U.S. foreign policy for
> the past 40 years. We have always been an agrarian country
> and found ourselves ill equipped politically to be the only country
> following WW II, with the military might to stand between democracy
> and slavery of the masses. When can we see you admit that
> Europe was responsible for the bloodiest slaughter in the history of
> man during the 20th Century??? Had that not happened...
> the U.S. would never have foolishly taken various ill advised
> foreign ventures. Cause... then effect.
>
>>>>>>> However, you've certainly left me ROTFLMAO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Puerile, sir.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I see
>>
>>>>Are pretty clouds, people picking mushrooms, the world speaking American
>>>>English (sic), your nuclear weapons looming threateningly over the
>>>>world's
>>>>populace sir and the electric chair warmed up, sir
>>>
>>> Apparently you're off your meds, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>
>>Maybe I can borrow some of yours, sir.
>
> Oh, gee... I'm shattered.. poor Sir shit-for-brains doesn't have
> an original thought in his head and simply uses the typical "you
> to," as some kind of excuses for his psychotic behavior.
> And you, Sir shit-for-brains - like showing off your ignorance of all
> things. You could do with a few books of your own, rather than that
> dusty ol' Bible and your pocket English dictionary.
>
>>> In any case, if I were to cite any books in my library as a reference
>>> you would petulantly pout that it was an "unreferenced" (sic) cite.
>>> Thus, the only real references available are those on the Internet.
>>> Such as free dictionaries (which I've used to pummel your arguments
>>> into fine dust), and sources of information, one of which is
>>> wikipedia.
>>>
>
> Don't you ever get tired of repeating the same mindless drivel?
> It doesn't make the denier suddenly speak the truth when it is
> obvious that he speaks a lie. That seems to be your implication.
>>
>>You are welcome to do so, sir as long as you reference them correctly.
>
> I don't need your "permission" for anything, Sir shit-for-brains. And
> my references are ALWAYS totally accurate. I recall when you were
> too stupid to even follow one of my cite, necessitating offering a
> half-dozen more for you to select from. While you are also
> welcome to spread as much poison toward the human race as you
> desire. And you don't need my permission to do so.
>
>>>>>>I'm
>>>>>>amazed. We shall see how long it takes you to catch up. Not long I'd
>>>>>>wager.
>>>>>>You seem to be invading everybody and you still have the barbaric
>>>>>>death
>>>>>>penalty.
>>>>>
>>>>> And you still have the cursed genocide of close to a million innocent
>>>>> Tutsis brought by a European power who wants to maintain French
>>>>> hegemony in Africa. You know what Mitterand said about those
>>>>> million murdered innocent Tutsis... murdered with French complicity,
>>>>> providing arms to the Hutus... urging them to get on with the
>>>>> massacre??? He is quoted as saying -- "in such countries, genocide is
>>>>> not too important." Nice leaders you elect. You curse us for
>>>>> electing Bush, and it turns out that Mitterand was responsible for at
>>>>> least 20 times the deaths that Bush and Blair are responsible for.
>>>>> Every time I mention this... Europeans posting here suddenly turn
>>>>> deaf, dumb, and blind.
>>>>
>>>>"And you still have the cursed genocide of close to a million innocent
>>>>> Tutsis brought by a European power who wants to maintain French
>>>>> hegemony in Africa"
>>>>
>>>>No I don't sir.
>>>
>>> Yes... you do, Sir Double-Speak.
>>
>>No I don't, sir.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>
> Yes... you do, Sir Double-Speak.
>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> <fx: Death Disco stares wide eyed with open mouth gaping at proof
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the long history of European hate for each other>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Wishful thinking on your part, sir.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>>>
>>>>http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrite
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorance
>>>
>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>>
>>
>>Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar,
>>sir.
>
> It doesn't make the denier suddenly speak the truth when it is
> obvious that he speaks a lie. That seems to be your implication.
>
>><snip>
>>
>>
>>>>>>Are you getting angry sir?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah... when I see someone offer an insulting lie, it makes me angry
>>>>> and also full of pity for someone who needs to use lies and smears in
>>>>> methods so sneaky and smarmy. It reminds me OF others who used
>>>>> the same type of lies in the 1930s, insisting there were those who
>>>>> were not _praying to Jesus_ but to a "God" that wanted them to
>>>>> conspire to rule the world. That led to the greatest blood-bath our
>>>>> species has ever witnessed. Of course, you insist you "don't remember
>>>>> it."
>>>>
>>> [1] see bottom of post.
>>>>
>>>>Then you concern yourself too much with the thoughts of other people
>>>>sir.
>>>
>>> I do not abide horse-shit. Nor do I abide racism. Nor do I abide
>>> Holocaust denial. Nor do I abide lying. You've demonstrated every
>>> one of those arguments I do not abide, Sir shit-for-brains. Just a
>>> few of the devious methods you have used include malice, craftiness,
>>> and duplicity. Plus you are a congenital liar, and a fraud from snout
>>> to tail.
>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>
>>It's not for you to abide it or condemn it, sir.
>
> Who are you to tell me what I can do? Is this more of your
> God-complex speaking?
>
>> Other people's political
>>views are not your business.
>
> Who are you to tell me what is or is not my business, given this
> is Usenet, and not a closed political meeting of cigar-smoking
> swindlers? Is this more of your God-complex speaking? Are
> you acting as the guard for that closed political meeting?
>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>>
>>
>>
>>So why do you do it so often, sir? Why are you such a hipocrite?
>
> Such a what??? Good grief... but you ARE ignorant of the
> English language. You might as well throw away that pocket
> English dictionary... it's not doing you any good. Obviously
> you believe you've learned a new word... while your middle
> name is "hypocrite."
>
> Misusing English is bad enough... but you're trying to assassinate
> it.
>
>>>>How typically American of you. Others' opinions are none of your
>>>>business,
>>>>sir.
>>>
>>> Rubbish. Such trash implies that anyone can say anything and no one
>>> can voice disapproval of what they say. You are claiming that a
>>> "freedom of speech" implies no "freedom to refute." That's how the
>>> Nazis took power.. and took away power from the people. A time
>>> comes when silence is betrayal to one's own moral instincts. You'd
>>> like nothing better than to silence those who oppose your rather sick
>>> views.
>>>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>
>>
>>
>>No, it is not, "Rubbish", sir.
>
> Okay... have it your way... it's INSANITY!! Is that better??
>
>> People like you surreptitiously practice
>>fascism, sir. The same sport your Nazi friends practiced
>
> ROTFLMAO. That from the guy who denies the Holocaust.
> How can you even mention "Nazi," given you insist you
> can't remember them if you didn't "experience them first
> hand." Where you a Nazi? Are you a neo-Nazi?? Don't
> forget you defended the Nazis in arguing you can't "remember"
> if the Nazis did anything harmful in WW II, because you
> didn't "experience it first hand."
>
> You really think name-calling bothers me, when I have the
> evidence of YOUR HOLOCAUST DENIAL!!!
>
>>>>>>"You pray to a god to strike me down for correcting your English, sir?
>>>>>>Hardly the response of an athiest."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is not a lie, sir.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rubbish. I said "If there were a "God." You expect that to mean I
>>>>> pray to such an imaginary "God." So I suppose if I wrote "If you
>>>>> were a Nazi," that would mean that you pray to the Nazis. You
>>>>> need an intense mental examination... and I am dead serious about
>>>>> that. I think you miss your mommy... being away from home for
>>>>> the first time in your young life.
>>>>
>>>>You imagine there is a god, sir. You prayed for it to strike me down,
>>>>sir..
>>>
>>> Really, little boy, if you cannot win an argument you should
>>> not try to lie your way out of losing it. It's just another logical
>>> fallacy you use -- The logical fallacy of "accent." See --
>>> http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/logic.html#accent
>>
>>http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrite
>
> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/psychotic
>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2vwejyl
>>
>>>
>>> Changing the meaning of my words.
>>
>>
>>
>>You do that enough on your own, sir.
>
> TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
> I wasn't what he found me to be so I could show he is not correct,
> but the bastard hit the nail right on the head."
>
> Your words -- "if i do not approve of a definition I simply choose not
> to use it."
>
> It doesn't make the denier suddenly speak the truth when it is
> obvious that he speaks a lie.
>
>>
>>>>> Then you don't know how many "disease causing organisms" people carry.
>>>>> So you're really arguing from a point of declared ignorance.
>>>>
>>>>No, sir. I don't need to know that as it does not alter the point.
>>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>
>>
>>
>>Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar,
>>sir.
>
> It doesn't make the denier suddenly speak the truth when it is
> obvious that he speaks a lie.
>
>>>
>>> But you're wrong again. You argued that humans carry more diseases
>>> than cockroaches. Then you claim you don't know how many diseases
>>> humans carry. So you've again violated logic. Arriving at an
>>> irrelevant conclusion since you admit you didn't have your facts...
>>> http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/logic.html#elenchi
>>
>>
>>But you're wrong again
>>
>>No, sir.
>
> Yes, Sir shit-for-brains. You admitted you don't know how many
> diseases humans carry. Yet your argument was that human carry
> more diseases than cockroaches. That's an argument that contains a
> logical fallacy.
>
>>>>>
>>>>> RTFQ!!! I never said it was on the arm of your baby. I offered you
>>>>> the CHOICE between killing it, or knowing that it WOULD BE on the arm
>>>>> of your baby. You chose to let it go to the arm of your baby, and
>>>>> THEN let it wiggle its six legs a bit before you could grasp it,
>>>>> spreading even more germs to your own hand, and carefully depositing
>>>>> it outside your window for the birds to feast upon. I wonder why you
>>>>> don't have some _cockroach cages_, in which you can _save the
>>>>> cockroach_ of the world from those nasty birds.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>" knowing that it WOULD BE on the arm of your baby."
>>>
>>> My question was --
>>> "Do you step on that cockroach or do you let that cockroach crawl on
>>> your baby while you run to get some kind of paper or something to
>>> remove that cockroach gently to avoid hurting your baby and that
>>> cockroach?"
>>
>>
>>I pick up the cockroach with my hand and take it outside, sir.
>
> Heh... try it sometime. Are you going to put on your "super powers"
> costume that "something higher than ourselves" gave you, so you can
> be faster than a speeding bullet, and pick up that cockroach, because
> it's hoping to rest in your tender arms, and will quietly wait for you
> to pick it up? Fat chance!!
>
> Since you're imagining powers that you do not have, I could argue that
> the cockroach will pick you up and take you outside, then come back in
> and eat your baby. You need to examine the parameters of every
> problem given... it's something that you are a failure at in offering
> your pitiful problems. You proved that from the very first problem.
> If you "pick up that cockroach, you have permitted it to crawl on your
> baby's arms and face, before you can "get some kind of paper or
> something..." You can only kill it OR "permit it" to crawl on your
> baby. There is no "door number three." If you kill it, it will NOT
> get on your baby at all.
>
>>> Obviously you would not "step on that cockroach" when it was already
>>> on your baby's arm... or would you?
>>
>>I would not step on the cockroach full stop sir.
>
> Clear... you would let it possibly infect your baby with various
> pathogenic bacteria and viruses they carry on their hairy legs and
> bodies. Pathogens that include tuberculosis, cholera, leprosy,
> dysentery, and typhoid... along with bacteria like salmonella
> and viruses that can cause other diseases. You will not find a
> single reference to cockroaches that does not mention that they
> are carriers of diseases of all kinds. Yet you care more about
> one cockroach than you do the safety and health of your baby.
>
>> I recall you stating that
>>you would step on it for the hell of it. Do you deny those words, sir?
>
> Without a doubt. I would never let a cockroach get close to my
> baby if it was in my power to kill it before it did. Cockroaches
> have as much value to me as a stone. And I would throw a
> stone in water for the hell of it... just to watch it skip.
>
>>>The question was phrased to
>>> argue would you kill that cockroach BEFORE it could crawl on your
>>> baby's arm, with the condition that you could not reach that cockroach
>>> with your hand before it did crawl on your baby's arm? Leaving you
>>> ONLY the choice of killing it BEFORE it could crawl on your baby, or
>>> seeing it crawl on your baby's arm.
>>>
>>> This is not brain surgery, shit-for-brains. It could be quite
>>> possible that a cockroach was crawling on the floor close to your
>>> baby's crib, and we all know how fast cockroaches can scurry.
>>> Faster than you can get a tissue or even reach down to grab it
>>> before it has traveled right up the leg of the crib and down onto your
>>> baby's arm or mouth for that matter. The human instinct is to
>>> protect your baby from that cockroach, UNLESS you consider
>>> the cockroach as equal to your own baby. You can only step on it
>>> BEFORE it reaches your baby, or leave it to crawl on your baby and
>>> irrationally believe you are fast enough to reach down with your
>>> fingers and the cockroach will accommodate you in picking it up. That
>>> could never happen, sport. I don't think simply trying to pick up a
>>> cockroach that is free to travel is generally very successful. Chee...
>>> but you are brutally dumb.
>>
>>
>>Your question is bunkum. and I have already answered it, sir.
>>
> I know you have. You would permit your baby to possibly be infected
> you _your friend... the cockroach_.
>
>>>
>>>>Are you getting angry again, sir?
>>>>
>>> Well... let me see... you told me "Others' opinions are none of your
>>> business." Now you seem to be overly concerned about my opinions.
>>> But I freely admit that Holocaust denial pisses me off. And you are
>>> a Holocaust denier. That's the benchmark of my being pissed off
>>> at you.
>>
>>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>
>>
>>
>>Did you dislike that, sir? It was a kind of comment that a fascist would
>>object too
>
> Only a fascist would argue that the opinions of others are _none of
> my business_. That's the mark of a fascist... and that was YOUR
> comment... not mine... you sick little fascist. Joseph Goebbels
> had this to say about fascism -- "It is the absolute right of the
> state to supervise the formation of public opinion." And that
> is YOUR intention... to silence me, insisting that "Others' opinions
> are none of your business." Everyone's opinions are everyone's
> business when they try to trample on human rights or display
> incredible ignorance.
>>
>>>>>>You should think your debates through, sir. Did you have any children
>>>>>>that
>>>>>>lived sir?
>>>>>
>>>>> Does your mother still prostitute herself for a living? Trust me...
>>>>> you start bringing insults to my real family or real children, rather
>>>>> than a hypothetical thought experiment and you will find yourself
>>>>> being accused of screwing your sister. Remember that YOU started
>>>>> it. Now apologize and let's move on.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Does your mother still prostitute herself for a living?"
>>>>
>>>>I am sure she could be persuaded, sir.
>>>
>>> Last I heard she was only getting a dollar a trick.
>>
>>
>>It cannot be my mother you are thinking of, sir. She does not accept
>>American money because she has standards. However I do enjoy that you are
>>such an ignoramus that you fail to comprehend that in my motherland,
>>prostitution is neither illegal nor immoral. It is a respectable
>>profession.
>>The "your mother is a whore" lines do not work on us, dear fellow.
>>
> So that was your mother I saw in that room with the red light, on
> the Damrak... isn't she a little bit old for that "respectable
> profession"? Does she also perform with donkeys??
>
>>>
>>>> For a broken down hopeless old man
>>>>such as yourself, she me very likely increase the price.
>>>
>>> I'm not into catching diseases. But what's this "she me very..."?
>>
>>
>>"I'm not into catching diseases"
>>
>>Neither is she, sir.
>
> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>
>>
>>"But what's this "she me very..."
>>
>>
>>
>>English is not my first language, sir. You are a xenophobic Muppet.
>>
>
> English is not your - any language - Sir shit-for-brains. There are
> worse things than fractured English... there is the method you
> use of forming illogical, racist, comments, peppered with lies and
> denials, including a denial of the FACT that you are a Holocaust
> denier. I can abide fractured English if there is an argument in
> that English that is not filled with lies, and other sickening ideas.
>
>>>>>>Then you are a murderer, sir, on two counts. One for killing the poor
>>>>>>innocent cockroach
>>>>>
>>>>> ROTFLMAO. Read the definition of murder, you ignorant child.
>>>>> MURDER -- "The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially
>>>>> with premeditated malice."
>>>>> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/murder
>>>>>
>>>>> Insects are NOT "human." Only someone on the edge of sanity could
>>>>> argue that _cockroaches_ are HUMAN.
>>>>
>>>>The unlawful, deliberate killing, sir.
>>>
>>> "of one human by another," shit-for-brains.
>>
>>That must be awfully convenient for you. You are still a murdering
>>bastard,
>>sir
>
> Heh... that from the guy who insists a cockroach is worth every bit as
> much as a human being. It's laughable.
>
>>>> So if womeone were to kill you it would not be murder.
>>>
>>> What the fuck is a "womeone" (sic)? Is that one of your gang member
>>> that I have to worry about murdering me??
>>>
>>
>>English is not my first language, sir. You are a xenophobic Muppet.
>>
> Hey, I don't care whether English is or is not your mother-tongue.
> I welcome anyone who makes an effort to learn a language. What
> I can't tolerate is the way you have assassinated that language with
> your lies, your disgusting display of racism, your basic ignorance,
> and your insufferable hypocrisy and xenophobia. Not to mention
> your intention to make everyone who did not "experience first hand"
> the Holocaust, forget it.
>
>>
>>>>> Oh, wait... you need a cite for that, because you're too ignorant to
>>>>> figure it out for yourself. Here you go --
>>>>> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/human
>>>>> HUMAN -- "A member of the genus Homo and especially of the species H.
>>>>> sapiens."
>>>>
>>>>You reference incorrectly, sir. Will you ever learn?
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorance
>>>
>>> AADP does not accept definitions in your native Tigrinya.
>>
>>AADP niether accepts or denies anythingm sir. it is a newsgroup.
>>
> So in your native Tigrinya language the cockroach is equal to the
> human, and both have been told by "something higher than
> ourselves," that they "a right to life." Is cannibalism also part
> of your culture?
>
>>
>>AADP neither accepts nor denies anything sir. It is a newsgroup.
>
> You're repeating yourself, Sir shit-for-brains.
>
>>>
>>>>> But of course, you've also said that -- "if i do not approve of a
>>>>> definition I simply choose not to use it." Which makes it easy for
>>>>> you to invent your own definitions, although it makes communicating
>>>>> with other humans... IMPOSSIBLE! You sound like Michael
>>>>> Jackson singing the role of Danny to his pet rat, "Ben," as his only
>>>>> friend. BTW -- do you consider rats "superior" to cockroaches??
>>>>> Heh heh heh.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>" But of course, you've also said that -- "if i do not approve of a
>>>>definition I simply choose not to use it." Which makes it easy for you
>>>>to
>>>>invent your own definitions"
>>>>
>>>>Your logic is erroneous, sir.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>
>>
>>Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar,
>>sir.
>>
> Denying there is a definition of a word in the English language is
> lying, Sir shit-for-brains. If you deny a FACT, you are obviously
> lying. Such as you insisting that in English killing a cockroach is
> "murder" (sic), while it may be so in your native village it is not
> so in the English language. Because in English, "murder" is defined
> as one human illegally killing another with malice. So you sure were
> lying there. PROOF.
>
> You may love cockroaches so much that you consider them an
> "endangered species," but the FACT is that killing a cockroach
> is NOT defined as "murder," in the English language. So you
> LIED.
>
>>>
>>> My logic is impeccable, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>
>>Your logic is wrong so it is erroneous, sir.
>
> An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
>
>>>
>>>>>> and two for infecting you baby by spreading the cockroach's
>>>>>>disease carrying organisms all over your baby, sir.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong... I killed the cockroach on the floor... my hypothetical baby
>>>>> was NOT on the floor. You lifted the cockroach carefully from your
>>>>> hypothetical baby's arm, thoroughly infecting your hypothetical
>>>>> baby with up to 50 known diseases.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> [1] see bottom of post
>>>>
>>>>Yes, it was sir. You knocked over its cot when you rushed to murder the
>>>>cockroach. I hope the baby was not yours, sir.
>>>
>>> More of your lies.
>>
>>
>>No, sir.
>>
>
> Yes, you whiny little child. The word "knocked" does not appear in
> any of my comments in this thread. So you're caught in yet another
> lie. How many is that now? At least two dozen... and that doesn't
> even count your comments in abject ignorance.
>
>>>>> You should be ashamed of yourself. That cockroach NEVER touched
>>>>> my baby.
>>>
>>> See what I wrote, Sir shit-for-brains? Proving you lied.
>>
>>
>>No it doesn't sir. The cockroach was a hypothetical part of one of your
>>puerile games, sir.
>>
> Yes... and it showed that you had no problem with your baby being
> possibly infected by the bacteria and viruses carried by that
> cockroach.
>
> Come on, Sir shit-for-brains. Would you "murder" (sic) two
> cockroaches if it could save one murderer from a U.S. death penalty?
> That's the litmus test to show just how deep your affection is for
> all of the over 4,000 recognized cockroach species.
>
>>>
>>>>> You should RTFQ when you see thought experiments rather than
>>>>> contriving your own set of circumstances and accusing the other
>>>>> of "murder." How many "murders" have you committed in washing
>>>>> your hands??
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"RTFQ"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Language, sir.
>>>
>>> See --
>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rtfq
>>
>>
>>If you will post acronyms, sir.
>>
>
> Sure... why not? You post mindless drivel, lies, and Holocaust
> denial.
>
>>> Educated yourself, for fuck's sake. You can't stumble through
>>> life remaining ignorant... even if you think you can.
>>
>>I shall be right behind you in the queue, ignoramus.
>
> There is no question that reason would have the same effect on
> you as daylight has on Dracula.
>
>>>
>>>>>>> Since you find humans and cockroaches no different, if you had
>>>>>>> to kill a human or kill a cockroach, and had no other choice, which
>>>>>>> would you kill? After all, you can't make the same choice as
>>>>>>> Buridan's donkey in this thought experiment. One or the other,
>>>>>>> sport. Which one is it?
>>>>>
>>>>> And we see Death Disco respond with *deathly silence*
>>>>> For a guy that raves on and on about irrelevant things, and
>>>>> insists he _talks to "something higher than ourselves"_ we
>>>>> now find he is at a loss for words.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No, sir. That was your response.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>>
>>> Just more of your lies. It seems you've given up and just offer
>>> lie after lie.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Really sir; if you cannot win an argument without lying then you should
>>not
>>be allowed to play.
>
> TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
> I wasn't what he found me to be so I could show he is not correct,
> but the bastard hit the nail right on the head."
>
> Come on, Sir shit-for-brains... how many cockroaches would you
> "murder" (sic) if doing so would save an innocent human from the death
> penalty, who would be executed if you did not "murder" (sic) any
> cockroach???
>
> I know you admitted to being "numeric challenged," but this only
> requires a constant from zero to + infinity.
>
>>It was from your post so it is your response, sir
>
> You're insane... by now even you must realize that your trolley has
> jumped the tracks. Your work products in this group are a little
> bit below those produced by a clown, and a little bit above those
> produced by a trained seal.
>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regardless... I'm now getting a better focus on why you deny the
>>>>>>> Holocaust. It's because to you six million Jews are worth less than
>>>>>>> six million and one cockroaches, in your sick mind.
>>>>>
>>>>> And we see Death Disco respond with *deathly silence*
>>>>> For a guy that raves on and on about irrelevant things, and
>>>>> insists he _talks to "something higher than ourselves"_ we
>>>>> now find he is at a loss for words.
>>>>
>>>>No, sir. That was your response.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>
>>
>>You typed it, sir. It was your response.
>
> <fx: waves hand to get Death Disco's attention> You're insane you
> know. You're not just one brick short of a load... you're one load
> short of a load.
>
>>>
>>>>>>If you cannot win your arguments without lying or (inclusive) name
>>>>>>calling
>>>>>>then you should not be allowed to take part.
>>>>>
>>>>> Who the hell are you to tell me what I can and can't do? This is just
>>>>> more of your God-complex at work. Nonetheless... the only liar is
>>>>> you... because I NEVER, EVER LIE!! You need to offer a cite of my
>>>>> words that demonstrates I have lied. In fact, my never having lied
>>>>> has brought me more grief in arguments than if I had lied. When I
>>>>> win arguments the claims that I'm a liar come out of the woodwork...
>>>>> like your pet "cockroaches."
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>"Who the hell are you to tell me what I can and can't do?"
>>
>>
>>
>>Who are you to tell people what to believe, what politics to support, what
>>religions to support?
>>
> I've never done that... I don't care that you believe cockroaches are
> the same as humans. I simply point it out and let others find their
> own opinion about your opinion. I NEVER tell people what they can
> and can't do. That would be a violation of free speech. But YOU
> are telling me what I can and cannot do. So who the fuck are you
> to be giving ORDERS to me???
>
> I've never said you CAN'T "deny the Holocaust." Of course you CAN
> deny the Holocaust. There is no rule in which someone cannot say
> what they believe, regardless of how offensive another might take what
> they believe. There are probably millions of humans on this planet
> who "deny the Holocaust," while most of them are certainly located in
> the middle-east, and are Muslims. Such as those in Iran who deny the
> Holocaust as a matter of faith told to them by their religious
> fruitcake leaders. But I am free to SAY that they "deny the
> Holocaust," because it is a FACT. I am free to relate what they have
> said and written. Just as I am free to say that YOU "deny the
> Holocaust," because it is a FACT... stated in your own words. Right
> here in AADP.
>
> I can also relate that YOU demanded the Jews forget the Holocaust...
> in your psychotically sick words -- ""After sixty years, it's time for
> them <the Jews> to get over it." Who the hell are you to tell
> every Jew, in your anti-Semitism, that they should "get over" knowing
> that six million Jews were exterminated less than 70 years ago?
> Who the hell are you to make demands on EVERY Jew???
>
> When you offer a lie in English, I never say you CAN'T lie. I only
> point out that you HAVE lied. But this is again... much too
> complicated for you to grasp the difference.
>
>>>>"Who the hell are you to tell me what I can and can't do?"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Indeed, sir. Will you take instruction only from another American, sir?
>>>
>>> Answer the question, Sir shit-for-brains. What makes you wiggle and
>>> squeal like a stuck pig, offering irrelevant implications that you
>>> hope to use to avoid the fact of your Nazi persona insists what
>>> I can and can't do? In the way you framed your argument I wouldn't
>>> give a shit if you were fucking Interpol. Who the hell are YOU to
>>> tell me what I can and can't do??? Aside from your God-complex
>>> believing you are "something higher than ourselves," and can order
>>> everyone around... or do you think you can only order Americans
>>> around, you xenophobic mental fruit loop?
>>>
>>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>>
>>
>>Who are you to tell people what to believe, what politics to support, what
>>religions to support?
>
> You're lying again.
>
> I've never done that... I don't care that you believe cockroaches are
> the same as humans. I simply point it out and let others find their
> own opinion about your opinion. I NEVER tell people what they can
> and can't do. That would be a violation of free speech. But YOU
> are telling me what I can and cannot do. So who the fuck are you
> to be giving ORDERS to me???
>
> I've never said you CAN'T "deny the Holocaust." Of course you CAN
> deny the Holocaust. There is no rule in which someone cannot say
> what they believe regardless of how offensive another might take what
> they believe. There are probably millions of humans on this planet
> who "deny the Holocaust," while most of them are certainly located in
> the middle-east, and are Muslims. Such as those in Iran who deny the
> Holocaust as a matter of faith told to them by their religious
> fruitcake leaders. But I am free to SAY that they "deny the
> Holocaust," because it is a FACT. I am free to relate what they have
> said and written. Just as I am free to say that YOU "deny the
> Holocaust," because it is a FACT... stated in your own words. Right
> here in AADP.
>
> I can also relate that YOU demanded the Jews forget the Holocaust...
> in your psychotically sick words -- ""After sixty years, it's time for
> them <the Jews> to get over it." Who the hell are you to tell
> every Jew, in your anti-Semitism, that they should "get over" knowing
> that six million Jews were exterminated less than 70 years ago?
> Who the hell are you to make demands on EVERY Jew???
>
> When you offer a lie in English, I never say you CAN'T lie. I only
> point out that you HAVE lied. But this is again... much too
> complicated for you to grasp the difference.
>
>
>>>>>>Wiki is not known for its accuracy, sir.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only in your mind. Wiki makes your puny knowledge measurable only on
>>>>> a scale less than the Planck constant.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> [1] see bottom of post
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No, sir. In reality
>>>>
>>>
>>> And yet you used it... Twice... and probably in many more places. You
>>> used it in referring to --
>>> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrite
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black
>>
>>
>>At no juncture did I claim it was 100% inaccurate, sir.
>
> So it only "accurate" when YOU use it. ROTFLMAO. What a
> sick hubris you have.
>
>>
>>>
>>> Of course, you two-faced piece of garbage... you didn't even
>>> know what a "hypocrite" was until I called you a "hypocrite" and
>>> you swiftly ran to see with the word means.
>>>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>
>>
>>Are you getting angry again you xenophobic hypocrite?
>
> Mother Theresa (if she was still alive) would get angry at your --
>
> 1) acting like a craven coward
> 2) displaying the depressing burden of your exiguous education
> 3) showing your disgusting ignorance
> 4) planting some defamatory slander
> 5) insisting that voices are telling you things that are "unknown"
> 6) sowing your hebephrenic and insensate nature
> 7) expressing your acerbic insolence
> 8) inserting your nefarious antipathy toward humanity
> 9) raving in your lubricous xenophobic hubris
> 10) exhibiting a proclivity for disgraceful buffoonery
> 11) ranting in frenzied and fallacious demagoguery
> 12) revealing your malfeasant racism
> 13) parading a shameful and evil Holocaust denial
> 14) creating a catachrestic destruction of the English language
> 15) flaunting your grotesque and ludicrous catagenetic representation
> of humans as no better than cockroaches
> or --
> 16) offering your disingenuous and fraudulent lying
>
> etc...etc... etc...
>
>>>>>>> English criminal law applies to the law in the U.K.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes sir, but if you suggest that killing in self defense does not
>>>>>>carry
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>prison term in the UK then you are wrong sir.
>>>>>
>>>>> Killing in recognized self-defense does not carry any crime at
>>>>> all. It's only when it has been determined that the definition
>>>>> of self-defense has not been met that anyone can be accused
>>>>> or convicted of any crime. If the recognized LEGAL conditions
>>>>> of self-defense are MET... there has no crime committed.
>>>>
>>>>Killing carries a custodial sentence, even if it is in self-defence.
>>>>That
>>>>is British law, of course.
>>>
>>> Wrong. Why do you keep lying, when the evidence against your
>>> argument keeps piling up?
>>
>>
>>Wrong.
>
> An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
>
> I proved my argument with a referenced cite, for the OFFICIAL U.K.
> government site of "The Crown Prosecution Services." See --
> http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/self_defence/
> Quote -- "it is important to ensure that all those acting reasonably
> and in good faith to defend themselves, their family, their property
> or in the prevention of crime or the apprehension of offenders are not
> prosecuted for such action.."
>
> It's a good thing you lack the capacity to be embarrassed, even when
> shown to deny the Holocaust. Because here I have pinned you right
> to the wall... and yet you continue to deny the truth. Which most
> certainly makes you again, hoping to pass off a lie, rather than admit
> to the truth.
>
>>
>>You have proved nothing sir.
>
> the OFFICIAL U.K. government site of "The Crown Prosecution Services."
> has proved it for me. I don't need to prove what is already in
> evidence. See --
> http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/self_defence/
>
>>
>>> Do you have any idea just how IGNORANT you look when you
>>> ignore FACTS???
>>
>>I do not ignore FACTS, sir.
>
> ROTFLMAO... the OFFICIAL U.K. government site of "The Crown
> Prosecution Services." See --
> http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/self_defence/
> Quote -- "it is important to ensure that all those acting reasonably
> and in good faith to defend themselves, their family, their property
> or in the prevention of crime or the apprehension of offenders are not
> prosecuted for such action.."
>>
>>>>> You did not SUGGEST... but INSISTED that factually -- "You kill
>>>>> someone in self defense in Britian (sic) then your conviction will
>>>>> read that of masnlaughter (sic)." But you were wrong, and now you
>>>>> are lying hope to wiggle out of that silly comment. If you
>>>>> kill in legally recognized self-defense in Britian (sic) then you
>>>>> have committed NO CRIME.
>>>>
>>>>You are wrong, sir.
>>>
>>> It's not me you're calling "wrong," shit-for-brains. I'm only the
>>> messenger. You're calling the British government WRONG!
>>> You're insisting that "The Crown Prosecution Service" does not
>>> honor a self-defense argument if "The Crown Prosecution
>>> Service" decides the killing was a legal self-defense killing.
>>>
>>
>>"It's not me you're calling "wrong," "
>>
>>Yes it is,sir.
>
> No, it isn't, Sir shit-for-brains. And all your denials won't make me
> the author of the proof I gave you.
>>
>>> Good grief... but you keep raising the bar of your stupidity.
>>> Apparently I've managed to tilt your personality toward the
>>> deranged.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Pot, kettle, black, sir.
>
> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>>
>>>>> It is when you kill, and it not recognized as being in self-defense,
>>>>> even if you plead that it was, that you will be accused and tried
>>>>> in a court of law for "manslaughter," or even "murder" if it is
>>>>> found that your claim of self-defense was rubbish and you killed
>>>>> intentionally and with malice aforethought.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You do not know British law, sir.
>>>
>>> I'm just the messenger. You're arguing that "The Crown
>>> Prosecution Service" does not know British law, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>> Perhaps your argument is that you're hearing voices from
>>> "something higher than ourselves," who keep telling you
>>> that "The Crown Prosecution Service," doesn't know what
>>> it's talking about.
>>>
>>
>>"I'm just the messenger"
>>
>>No, you are not, sir.
>>
>
> Yes, I am, Sir shit-for-brains. And all your denials won't make me
> the author of the proof I gave you.
> An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
>
>>>
>>>>Of course, we can, sir. You do it persistently.
>>>
>>> An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible
>>
>>No, it isn't, sir.
>>
> ROTFMAO. Now you're even calling yourself a liar. Since you
> were the one who originally claimed "Your unreferenced site (sic) is
> inadmissable (sic)"
>
>>>
>>>>>>Killing in self defense is manslaughter and is punishable by
>>>>>>imprisonment,
>>>>>>sir.
>>>>>
>>>>> Heh... Saying it, is not proving it. Unless you abide by the diktat
>>>>> of Hitler, who insisted that "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep
>>>>> saying it, and eventually they will believe it"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I am under no obligation to prove anything to you, sir.
>>>
>>> But you do need to prove it to "The Crown Prosecution Service,"
>>> since they have a different story than you're pandering.
>>
>>
>>No, sir.
>
> You have every right to continue to lie. But there is factual
> evidence that you are lying.
>
>>>>> While you may claim that "I have no obligation to prove my arguments
>>>>> or to answer anything," that only means even you know that your
>>>>> argument is not true.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No it doesn't, sir.
>>>>
>>> An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
>>
>>
>>Will you be posting referenced cites to all your assertions above then,
>>sir?
>>
> I've done it over and over. Whenever you see quotation marks they
> show your past words. While you just babble mindless drivel
> incoherently, without a SINGLE reference, other than two references
> to wikipedia meant as ad hominem, and nothing else of a nature
> that shows an effort to deny your words from the past.
>
>>>>>
>>>>> While you may claim that "I have no obligation to prove my arguments
>>>>> or to answer anything," that only means even you know that your
>>>>> argument is not true. A person can go to prison for "claiming to have
>>>>> killed in self-defense," when the judiciary determines that the
>>>>> killing did not meet the legal standards of self-defense. But a
>>>>> person having met the legal standards of self-defense will never be
>>>>> prosecuted for a crime. It is a fundamental principle of the law that
>>>>> killing in "legally recognized self-defense" is NOT a crime.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I have responded to this further up the post, sir. Repeating it would be
>>>>pointless.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Of course it would. You've lost above... and you lose again here.
>>
>>
>>You cannot win an argument simply by declaring your opponent the loser,
>>sir.
>>
> ROTFLMAO. Your words -- "I have already accepted your flag of
> surrender, sir." What a proven hypocrite you are, Sir
> shit-for-brains.
>
>>>
>>> This is the is the OFFICIAL U.K. government site of "The
>>> Crown Prosecution Services." See --
>>> http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/self_defence/
>>> Quote -- "it is important to ensure that all those acting reasonably
>>> and in good faith to defend themselves, their family, their property
>>> or in the prevention of crime or the apprehension of offenders are not
>>> prosecuted for such action.."
>>>>
>>> It's not ME you're lying to... it's you lying to "The Crown
>>> Prosecution Services."
>>>
>>
>>
>>No, sir.
>>
> You can deny it until the cows come home... but facts show you to
> now be lying in that denial.
>
>>>>> And finally -- Your claim that "It's the unknown, sir."
>>>>> Which you argue is _an unknown but known to you_.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I did not ask for proof, sir. I informed you that you had not provided
>>>>any.
>>>>On the other hand, you repeatedly ask for proof so proof is your
>>>>commitment.
>>>
>>> Well, if you're not asking for any proof... then fuck-off. The
>>> difference is when you lie or use fraud or use one of your greasy,
>>> smarmy comments that you believe pass for some fact, I demand
>>> you prove it. Otherwise, it's just you fabricating some of your
>>> horse-shit.
>>>
>>
>>"Well, if you're not asking for any proof... then fuck-off."
>>
>>Language, sir.
>>
> It's English... you should try it sometime.
> Wrong. YOU cannot hide your lies in denial of FACT.
>
>>>>> End of story... you lose, sport. Unless you argue that this voice
>>>>> of "something higher than ourselves," told you that "The Crown
>>>>> Prosecution Service" is a bunch of crap.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> [1] see bottom of post
>>>
>>>>You're guessing, sir.
>>>
>>> Not one bit, Sir shit-for-brains. Go ahead and call "The Crown
>>> Prosecution Service." Here's their number, and this is their
>>> REAL telephone number -- 020 7796 8000. Or visit them
>>> at "The Crown Prosecution Service, 50 Ludgate Hill, London,
>>> EC4M 7EX" See --
>>> http://www.cps.gov.uk/
>>
>>"Not one bit"
>>
>>Every bit, sir.
>>
>
> TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
> I wasn't the proven liar he found me to be so I could show he is not
> correct, but the bastard hit the nail right on the head. All I have
> left is to deny FACTS."
>
>>>
>>> Don't give me any more lies about UK self-defense laws, because
>>> you are totally ignorant of UK law.
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And you've already lost three times now. When do you plan to
>>>>>>> stop lying, shit-for-brains???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You're guessing, sir.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since when are you a better source of information than the sources
>>>>> I've provided?
>>>>
>>>>Since I came to Britain, sir.
>>>
>>> Another logical fallacy. The non sequitur -- See
>>> http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/logic.html#nonseq
>>
>>
>>No, sir.
>
> Yes, Sir shit-for-brains. "The Crown Prosecution Service" was here
> hundreds of years before you arrived to pollute that splendor eternal,
> called England --
>
> There is no land like England,
> Where'er the light of day be;
> There are no hearts like English hearts,
> Such hearts of oak as they be;
> There is no land like England,
> Where'er the light of day be:
> There are no men like Englishmen,
> So tall and bold as they be!
> And these will strike for England,
> And man and maid be free
> To foil and spoil the tyrant
> Beneath the greenwood tree.
> Tennyson.
>
>>> Go ahead and call "The Crown Prosecution Service." Here's their
>>> number, and this is their REAL telephone number -- 020 7796 8000. Or
>>> visit them at "The Crown Prosecution Service, 50 Ludgate Hill, London,
>>> EC4M 7EX" See --
>>> http://www.cps.gov.uk/
>>>
>>
>>Did you ring them, sir?
>
> No... it's a local call for you, Sir shit-for-brains. After all, YOU
> are the one insisting that my cite is not a reputable reference.
> Talk is cheap... prove it isn't. Prove that you know more about
> English law than "The Crown Prosecution Service" does.
>
>>> Don't give me any more lies about UK self-defense laws, because
>>> you are totally ignorant of UK law.
>>
>>
>>Bull, sir. I live in the UK.
>
> Pity for the U.K., I'd say. However, that argument is irrelevant.
>
> To put this into logical perspective, to claim because you "live in
> the U.K.," that you know more about law in the U.K., than "The Crown
> Prosecution Service" does, is like claiming you once visited the
> inside of a Catholic church, so you know more about the ecclesiastical
> canons of Catholic law than the Pope.
>
> It's a lie... from top to bottom... from start to finish... from end
> to end. But it's just one of your typical lies.
>
>>>>> See above. Or see the OFFICIAL U.K. government site of "The
>>>>> Crown Prosecution Services." See --
>>>>> http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/self_defence/
>>>>> Quote -- "it is important to ensure that all those acting reasonably
>>>>> and in good faith to defend themselves, their family, their property
>>>>> or in the prevention of crime or the apprehension of offenders are not
>>>>> prosecuted for such action.."
>>>>
>>>>I have responded to this further up the post, sir. Repeating it would be
>>>>pointless.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>> Denying it over and over... does not make your absurd argument
>>> true.
>>
>>
>>It doesn't have to if my argument is already true,sir.
>>
> Yet your argument is false. And you have proved nothing. Claiming
> you "live in the UK" is an absurd claim of thus knowing English law
> better than "The Crown Prosecution Service."
>
>>>
>>> Go ahead and call "The Crown Prosecution Service." Here's their
>>> number, and this is their REAL telephone number -- 020 7796 8000. Or
>>> visit them at "The Crown Prosecution Service, 50 Ludgate Hill, London,
>>> EC4M 7EX" See --
>>> http://www.cps.gov.uk/
>>
>>
>>Repetition doesn't help your argument, sir.
>>
> I don't believe you're going to pick up the phone because you know
> what that would mean. Denial doesn't help your argument, that
> you "live in the U.K.," and that is sufficient proof that you know
> more about the law in the U.K., that "The Crown Prosecution Service"
> does. In fact it only cements your lie.
>
>>> Don't give me any more lies about UK self-defense laws, because
>>> you are totally ignorant of UK law.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Apparently you just use your imagination in your arguments, and
>>>>>>>>> don't even bother with the truth. To you... like to Hitler... the
>>>>>>>>> TRUTH is just an inconvenience if it conflicts with your agenda.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You have just describes your "Strategy" correctly sir. It's time you
>>>>>>>>were honest with yourself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stop repeating your lies. Repetition has no relation to accuracy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I repeat only your lies, sir.
>>>>>
>>>>> TRANSLATION "I repeat only my lies, sir.."'
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why don't you try something new... Like telling the truth?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Pot? Pot? this is kettle. Colour check please...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TRANSLATION: "Pot? Pot? this is kettle. Colour check please...."
>>>>>
>>>>> So you admit you're a liar.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No, sir. I admit that you are.
>>>
>>> An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
>>
>>Wrong, sir.
>
> Caught yet again in another of your lies. Since you have already
> insisted originally that "Your unreferenced site (sic) is inadmissable
> (sic)."
>
>>>
>>> You also admit that you're ignorant of the law... and of all things
>>> related to humanity. But you can build an antenna that picks
>>> up signals from "something higher than ourselves." You're
>>> cuckoo.
>>
>>"You also admit that you're ignorant of the law"
>>
>>No I do not, sir.
>>
> Actually what you claim is that because you "live in the U.K.," that
> you know more about law in the U.K., than "The Crown Prosecution
> Service" does. If that's not a bold lie, I don't what would be a
> lie. It's like claiming you once visited the inside of a Catholic
> church, so you know more about the ecclesiastical canons of
> Catholic law than the Pope.
>
>>>>>>Hardly a compelling argument, sir.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Better than any you've ever had.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You're guessing, sir.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>
>>Denying something alone does not automatically make the denier a liar,
>>sir.
>
> Nor does claiming I'm guessing have any validity.
>
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You have a prejudice against the "young" (Sic), sir!
>>>>>
>>>>> An unreferenced cite is inadmissable (sic).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>That was not a cite, sir. Do you have a clue, sir?
>>>
>>> Then you admit it was ad hominem... another of your logical
>>> fallacies -- See --
>>> http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/logic.html#hominem
>>>
>>
>>I'll take that as a ,"no", sir.
>>
>
> Take it any way you want to, Sir shit-for-brains. It's a free
> country, and although you abuse the right... you have a right
> to say anything that pops into that empty head of yours.
>
>>>>>>Yes, sir. But I corrected it in my follow up post, the one you are
>>>>>>about
>>>>>>to pretend you have not seen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yada, yada, yada.
>>>>
>>>>Is the pinnacle of your intellectual capability sir?
>>>
>>> I was referring to your whining denial that you did not answer the
>>> question correctly and even admitted that you had not... and now
>>> you lie and argue you never were incorrect, after admitting you
>>> were.
>>>
>>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>>
>>
>>
>>Nothing, sir.
>>
>
> I suspected as much. "Nothing" is typical of all your arguments.
>
>>>>> I read your "excuse," but I haven't got around to responding to all of
>>>>> your disturbed mind comments. I have other priorities, plus I take my
>>>>> time... so I don't have to ask the teacher for my work to be returned
>>>>> because I was in a hurry. Most nights I do even read AADP comments
>>>>> until after midnight, when I'm sure my wife is sound asleep.
>>>>
>>> [1] see bottom of post
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I offerecd no excuse, sir. There was nothing to excuse.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/excuse
>>
>>Iknow the meanings of both those words sir. As I said,
>>I offered no excuse, sir. There was nothing to excuse.
>
> Your words, just above -- " But I corrected it in my follow up post."
> That's called an "excuse," for fucking it up in the first place. Try
> to read your pocket English dictionary, rather than believe you
> can find the answer in your Bible.
>
>>>>> Hardly. Now that I've answered it when can I expect the answer to my
>>>>> second question, or even my third question.
>>>>
>>>>It is fortunate I was not submitting it to anyone whose opinion matters,
>>>>sir.
>>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorance
>>>
>>
>>Posting irrelevent links does not win your argument for you, sir.
>
> You should learn from your mistakes, Sir shit-for-brains.
> Since when does "I do, sir" not offer an "admission"?
>
>>> Apology accepted.
>>>
>>
>>None was offered, sir.
>
>
> Yes, you did.
>
>
>>>>>
>>>>> While our purpose here should not be "victory," but progress... thus
>>>>> my purpose is simply to provide a small measure of nurturing to you
>>>>> that has obviously been neglected by those who should have nurtured
>>>>> you. I've come not to expect more from you than what your nurturing
>>>>> has failed to provide.
>>>>
>>>>You're guessing sir. You have no purpose. You are a waste, sir.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorance
>>
>>Posting irrelevent links does not win your argument for you, sir.
>>
> TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
> I wasn't what he found me to be so I could show he is not correct,
> but the bastard hit the nail right on the head."
>
>>>
>>>>>
> Yes, you did.
>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> While our purpose here should not be "victory," but progress... thus
>>>>> my purpose is simply to provide a small measure of nurturing to you
>>>>> that has obviously been neglected by those who should have nurtured
>>>>> you. I've come not to expect more from you than what your nurturing
>>>>> has failed to provide.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You're guessing sir. You have no purpose. You are a waste, sir.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorance
>>
>>Posting irrelevent links does not win your argument for you, sir.
>
> Did those voices you hear from "something higher than ourselves,"
> tell you that, Sir shit-for-brains?
> Gee... so you admit you were wrong when you posted the
> words " "Your unreferenced site (sic) is inadmissable (sic)"
> Imagine that... you admit you lied.
>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> *deathly silence*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You are anything but silent, sir.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can't stand the heat when I put your feet to the fire, can you?
>>>>
>>>>You cannot acclaim me for your words, sir.
>>>
>>> Please consult an English dictionary. I would never be one
>>> who would "acclaim" your words, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>
>>
>>You do everytime you repeat them, sir. The ones I actually say, that is.
>>
> You still haven't consulted that English dictionary, Sir
> shit-for-brains. But then you feel English dictionaries are
> unnecessary, because in your words -- "if i do not approve of
> a definition I simply choose not to use it."
>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that all you have? Don't you feel stupid not having of consequence
>>>>> to say? You should you know... you should feel VERY stupid!!
>>>>
>>> [2] see bottom of post
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No, sir.
>>>
>>> I didn't say you DO... I said you SHOULD feel VERY stupid!! I don't
>>> think you have enough intelligence to even realize just how stupid
>>> you are.
>>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>
>>
>>Not when pitted against you, sir.
>
> That's because you lack any "shame DNA" After all, you
> felt no shame when you denied the Holocaust.
>
>>>>> I never, ever lie. Claiming I do is simply your own smear tactics to
>>>>> discredit my exposing your own lies and deceit. It's a popular
>>>>> tactic used by those who are either exposed for being a liar or want
>>>>> to shift the argument (which is recognized as lost) to one of ad
>>>>> hominem, about presumed, but unexplained or lacking a cite to past
>>>>> comments. Simply call the person who exposes you -- a liar. And
>>>>> then "claim victory" as if that proves he is a liar. As to name
>>>>> calling... I have seldom found a more "name-calling-worthy" poster
>>>>> than you, sport.
>>>>
>>>
>>> [1] see bottom of post
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>>>
>>> What are you denying now, Sir shit-for-brains??
>>
>>You were claiming that you never ever lie, sir.
>
> And you cannot find any proof that I have. Put it up here, Sir
> shit-for-brains. I need to win some more money off my friend.
>
>>>>> Well... wait a minute... you argued that humans are not "superior" to
>>>>> what you referred to as the "poor little creature" called the
>>>>> cockroach. So given that premise which is a true premise from your
>>>>> own words... you argue that six million and one cockroaches are worth
>>>>> more to you than six million innocent Jews. It's a fair question
>>>>> since you insisted that a cockroach is no less than a human being.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Why Jews, sir? Do you see them more important than the rest of the
>>>>world?
>>>>Are you a racist, sir?
>>>
>>> Six million Jews were exterminated by the Nazis... you insist you
>>> don't "remember" it... so it is not in your memory. Given that fact,
>>> it is obvious that you care more about six million and one cockroaches
>>> than those six million innocent Jews slaughtered by your kinsmen
>>> on the continent of Europe.
>>>
>>
>>" Six million Jews were exterminated by the Nazis"
>>
>>
>>What about everyone else who were exterminated by the Nazis, sir? Don't
>>they
>>count? What about those whom were tortured by the Japanese, sir? Don't
>>tthey
>>count?
>
> What about the six million Jews... don't THEY count??? Apparently
> your argument is that because others were murdered in a war in which
> 50 million people lost their lives, those six million Jews are
> insignificant. That only shows your anti-Semitism and your deep
> desire to have everyone FORGET those six million Jews. It's a typical
> cunning plan of all anti-Semites... to argue that we should FORGET
> about the Jews, and concentrate on those others who lost their lives
> in WW II. Your country sent 107,000 Dutch Jews to the death camps,
> and only 5,000 survived. You must be very proud of your country...
> with the blood of those Jews having stained the honor of an otherwise
> quite civilized country... your country. How many non-Jewish Dutch
> died in WW II???? Check it out.
>
>>> You're the only racist, sport. That why you need to call me a racist
>>> because I mentioned the Jews... the Jews who you CANNOT
>>> remember... but I do remember them.
>>
>>"You're the only racist, sport">
>>
>>You're guessing, "sport".
>
> It's a subjective viewpoint. White-power group members would gladly
> accept you as not being a racist. While my opinion holds that you are
> a racist because of the various comments you have offered in insisting
> that you've "never seen a Black person." But that's another one of
> those definitions that you "choose not to use." The definition of
> BLACK -- "Of or belonging to a racial group having brown to black
> skin..." See --
> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/black
>
> Seek help, Sir shit-for-brains
>
>>>>> But I need to hear it from you... so given your original premise...
>>>>> another thought experiment... If you had to kill a cockroach to
>>>>> save a murderer from execution... would you kill that cockroach??
>>>>> Remember... you don't want to be called a "murderer" (sic)... do you??
>>>>
>>> [1] see bottom of post
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You cannot hear me, sir.
>>>
>>> I can hear your Holocaust denial all the way across the Atlantic, Sir
>>> shit-for-brains.
>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>
>
>>No you can't sir. You hear only your own fantasies
>
> I must be able to hear them. Since I repeat them so accurately,
> when expose your lies, your racism, your Holocaust denial, and
> your _hearing voices from "something higher than ourselves."
>>
>>>>> No proof offered. Your claim fails. Plus "an unreferenced cite is
>>>>> inadmissable (sic)." Whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean.
>>>>
>>>>An unreferenced cite is inadmissible
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well... it's about time you got it right... since you've never managed
>>> to put those five words together without fucking up the English
>>> language in the process. But it seems you are still fucking it
>>> up... the Oxford English Dictionary makes no reference to the
>>> word "unreferenced" (sic). Even when examining all the words
>>> having the prefix of "un." I've ignored mentioning it because
>>> it's just too trivial and I understand just how little English you
>>> know. But face it, Sir shit-for-brains... you're an idiot. You
>>> should form your pitiful argument such that it states -- "A
>>> cite without reference is inadmissible."
>>>
>>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>>
>>English is not easy to master, sir. You are 78 and you are still
>>struggling
>>with it.
>
> Oh, gee... I'm shattered... Death Disco, who hope to annihilate the
> English language by insisting if he sees a definition he _doesn't
> like_ he simply refuses to accept it, tells me I'm struggling with
> English.
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>
>>
>>
>>No I didn't sir.
>
> And yet you warned me. Apparently you know more about any
> threat to me than I do... so I can only presume you are privy to
> such a threat to me or my family. Don't feel lonesome... it's not
> the first time I've been personally threatened because I was
> exposing the _beast_ that represented other arguments.
>
>>et one fact straight, dear fellow. What you and I do here
>>is what the British call "Banter". It is harmless fun for both of us, I
>>hope. There is no threat to your health or any form of physical violence
>>from me, sir. That is not my way. I detest people who beleive they can win
>>arguments with thier fists. It's a losing strategy from day one. You will
>>get no such threat from me, sir.
>
> And yet..... you "warned me." Strange...
>>
>>> And at this point, Death Disco felt he had been hammered quite enough
>>> for one sitting, and decided to just stop responding.
>>
>>No sir. I caught the "send" shortcut. Alt+S when aiming for alt+tab.
>>
>>However I responded to the rest in another post.
>
> This one is quite enough to have made a complete fool of you.
You have lost your bet, sir.
> on Electric Circuits and includes a schematic along with the question,
> which you just tried to translate into English, and fucked it up
> properly as you did with that other problem. If you can't put the
> question up with a schematic it's about worthless, in the way you
> offered it. But here's help... do it yourself.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-phase
No, sir. The question was taken from a British academic souce and the
question was worded correctly. Your response admits that you are unable to
understand the question, sir.
>
> In any case your problem is a piece of junk not worth my
> time.
Wrong, sir.
>
> However, here's one for you that does have a schematic along
> with the problem. Try to answer this one --
> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/circuit.jpg
I see you've found the section on transients in your book, sir
>
> This has every bit of the information you need to solve the
> question.
>
It does, sir.
> ROTFLMAO... I've got a hundred bucks riding on this one with my
> friend that you don't have a clue how to even begin.
>
"ROTFLMAO... I've got a hundred bucks riding on this one "
What I would do, you ask. I would start by looking at what the circuit does,
sir. At first glance, I see two potential dividers there. I would then
redraw the equivalent circuit then work out PHI. Once I have that, I can
plot a graph of the charge/discharge voltage of that capacitor and for good
measure, I would probably plot the current, also.
You lose your bet, sir.
"with my friend that you don't have a clue how to even begin"
You do not fool me, sir. You do not have any friends.
Given you have a low pass filter with a resistor of 31830 ohms, and a
capacitor of 1 Nano Farad. at frequency of 500 Cs what is the DB loss and
the phase angle? You will have to work out the reactance first, sir.
Given a three phase unbalanced supply, VL=400V, Z1=30,Z2=50 and Z3=40 ohm,
calculate phase voltage, Each line current and the power dissipated across
each line, sir.
You have a parallel tuned circuit with a resistance of 68 ohm, a resonant
frequency of 5khz, and an inductor of 145.4 mH. Calculate the capacitance.
A fourth question, for you, sir. as you've added another, so shall I.
You have a resonant tuned circuit of 500 c/s and an inductor of 1mH this
give you an inductive reactance of 3.142 ohms. Tell me the capacitive
reactance and show your workings, sir.
>>" certainly throw problems at you that you have no idea how to even
>>> approach"
>>
>>No, you cannot sir.
>
> Sure I can, shit-for-brains. I've already thrown three at you that
> you're afraid to even take a stab at.
>
" Sure I can, shit-for-brains"
No, you cannot sir.
"I've already thrown three at you that
> you're afraid to even take a stab at."
No you haven't, sir.
>> Not when you failed to answer the simple DB problem I
>>gave you earlier.
>
> When you learn how to formulate your problems accurately you'll
> get better results. Offering mumbo-jumbo only shows your own
> ignorance.
It's formulated correctly, sir.
>>
>>Problems you cannot solve, sir.
>
>
"Wrong, sport... "
I'm glad to hear it, sir. I look forward to seeing your solutions, dear
fellow.
>>>
>>
>>It's hardly a "simple" problem then, sir.
>>
> Yes... but you don't even know the first thing how to start.
You are guessing, sir.
>>
>>> But I can "understand" the solution in going through that _cheat
>>> sheet_. I'm quite sure that you couldn't.
>>
>>You're guessing, sir.
>>
> Well, prove it!
You haven't posted the cheat sheet yet, sir
>
>
>
> *profound silence from Sir shit-for-brains*
You were anything by silent, sir.
>>Provide me with the references and sources you used and I shall see if I
>>can
>>figure it out but it doesn't read like an electrical engineering problem.
>>It
>>reads like a physics problem.
>
> Give you the source so you can look up the answer?
So you looked up the answer sir. I could have guessed.
>You must be
> joking. However, the title of the source contains the word
> "Engineering."
>
Is it electrical enginnering, sir?.
>>
>>A curious statement as you have managed to answer only one problem I posed
>>for you.
>
> While you have correctly answered not a one of mine. Hell... you have
> three waiting for you, >
>><snip>
>>
"While you have correctly answered not a one of mine"
You are incorrect, sir. I answered your first one correctly, second time
round.
"Hell... you have three waiting for you,"
You have 4 waiting for you.
>>
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember... when you point your finger at me, in "calling the kettle
>>>>> black," there are three fingers on that same hand pointing right back
>>>>> at you, sport.
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>As I said before, sir. They are pointing directly at you.
>
> Apparently you're also blind.
No, sir.
>
>>Basic electrical principles are too complicated for you, evidently sir.
>
> Heh... I haven't seen any picture of electrical principles from you,
> Sir shit-for-brains.
>
You need pictures, sir?
You should be able to draw them from the parameters I gave you, sir.
>>>
>>> An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
>>
>>
>>Exactly my point, sir. As I said, "You have no basis to back up your
>>assertions, so they can only be guesses"
>>
> You're the one asserting that I'm guessing. Prove it. I've
> got the proof.
You have never backed up your assertions, without proof they are guesses,
sir.
>
> I've already given you the easiest of differential equations.
No, sir.
>>>>>>It was not a cite, sir, so no reference is required.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Your unreferenced site (sic) is inadmissable (sic)"
>>>>
>>>>The word is "cite", sir.
>>>
>>> That's why I followed it with a (sic), you moron. See --
>>> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/sic
>>> Quote -- "Used to indicate that a quoted passage, especially one
>>> containing an error or unconventional spelling, has been retained in
>>> its original form or written intentionally."
>>>
>>
>>"That's why I followed it with a (sic), "
>>
>>Which was incorrectly placed sir.
>
> Wrong, Sir shit-for-brains. It was placed quite accurately. Since
> both your use of "site" and your misspelling of "inadmissible,"
> required mention that it was garbage English.
>>
It was incorrectly placed sir..
>>
>>"Keep in mind that YOU originally misspelled both "cite""
>>
>>
>>
>>No Didn't sir.
>
> Yes, you did,
No Didn't sir.
>
>>As I said, sir, "Typographical errors are only a bad screwing when you are
>>writing a paper on English language sir. On newsgroups it's minor at worst
>>and only used as ammunition for imbeciles like you whom can't win their
>>arguments any other way".
>
> You can say it forever, and it won't for a single second hide your
> shown ignorance of the English language.
English is not my first language, xenophobe,
>
> "Education is the best provision for the journey to old age." --
> Aristotle.
Who mentioned education, sir? We were talking of typographical errors, sir.
>
>>Perhaps you should invest in a Thesaurus, sir.
>
> And yet that's all you have to say. Repetitive mindless drivel.
Pot, kettle, black, sir.
>>>>No I don't sir. Wait a can hear your voice now. It's a high pitched
>>>>meaningless whine.
>>>
>>> No... that's the sound of those cockroaches that you protect from
>>> being "murdered" (sic). ROTFLMAO. Death Disco --> AADP's
>>> cockroach protector. Won't let anything harm his "poor
>>> innocent cockroach," insisting that killing a cockroach is defined
>>> as "murder" to him.
>>>
>>
>>"No"
>>
>
> Yes.
No.
>
>>It's definately your voice, sir.
>
> Too bad your comment only again displays your ignorance of the
> English language.
You're guessing, sir.
>>>
>>Nonsense, dear fellow. It is unknown therefor I cannot know it.
>
> But you said you _know_ it. You said it was "something higher
> than ourselves." Well, how could that be if you didn't hear it from
> "it"? Who told you? Oh, wait... it's that Bible talking to you
> again... never mind.
>
Nonsense, dear fellow. It is unknown therefor I cannot know it.
>>
>>Simple logic, sir.
>
> ROTFLMAO. Doesn't that word stick in your craw, considering you
> have no idea what it really means???
Id that the best you can do, sir? It is apparently.
>>>
>>"Yes, you did".
>>
>>No I didn't, sir.
>
> See above... PROOF positive. Poor ol' Sir shit-for-brains... caught
> in yet another lie.
>
No proof at all, sir.
>>"Shit, son"
>>
>>I shall take that as a yes.
>
> Take it any way you want to...
Oh I will, sir.
<snip Mr Noles' puerile nonsense>
>>>>>>You believe in a god, sir?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is the word "if" (a conditional clause) too complicated for you? IF
>>>>> you were a bird you could fly. But you aren't a bird.
>>>>
>>
>>"Is the word "if" (a conditional clause)"
>>
>>Yes it is sir.
>
> Well, then... wake up!!
You're droning would send anyone to sleep, sir.
>
>>"IF you were a bird you could fly. But you aren't a bird"
>>
>>
>>
>>I could fly in an aeroplane, sir.
>
> No. sport... it's the "aeroplane" that flies. Not you. If you
> could jump on the back of one of your dragons,
My dragons, sir?
"No. sport... it's the "aeroplane" that flies. Not you"
Only if you forget to get on it, sir.
>
> In any case... read my word, Sir shit-for-brains. It refers
> to BIRDS... and doesn't even say that YOU can't fly but
> that IF you were a bird you could fly.
And my words do not testify that I cannot fly without an aircraft, sir.
They stipulate only that I can fly on one.
I would hope that you did not do much programming in your alleged masters
degree, sir. You do not have the logic for it.
But, given that
> you also hear voices I suspect you also believe you can be
> transmogrified into a bird, simply by stepping into the
> teleporter from StarTrek. Perhaps a carrion eating bird...
> it would certainly be apposite (look that word up in your handy
> pocket English dictionary).
>
"But, given that
> you also hear voices "
I can hear them now, sir. the radio is on.
>>>>I ended my comment with a question mark, sir. I was asking you a
>>>>question.
>>>
>>> Well... I don't believe in a God. Certainly not one who figures that
>>> all biological life, down to viruses and mosquitoes must be given some
>>> "right to life." Nor do I consider cockroaches to be equal to human
>>> beings as you have insisted.
>>>
>>
>>"I don't believe in a God"
>>
>>You don't, sir? Then why do you keep asking it to strike me down?
>
> Are you still confused about the word "if," Sir shit-for-brains???
> But trust me... if would no big loss to humanity. Although
> cockroaches might attend your funeral. With cockroaches,
> mourning the loss of their "champion," who insists they are
> each the equal of a human being, up to the neck of everyone
> around it. No greater love hath man... than Death Disco for
> the cockroach.
>
"Are you still confused about the word "if," "
Oh there's no confusion, sir.
>><snip>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>I have not killed anyone sir.
>>>
>>> So that's your excuse for the slaughter of the Tutsis in Africa????
>
>>
>>You perceive that innocence is an excuse? Curious.
>
> When you're part of the problem!!!
The part of the problem is the people doing the killing; the other part of
the problem is the politics behind the people doing the killing. If you are
involved in neither of those then you are not part of the problem.
>> I wasn't at the holocaust. I do remember much of my
>>education, however.
>
> You mean arithmetic. Big deal. But again we have your
> two-faced claim. 1) You state "I do remember NOTHING."
> and then you state 2) "I do remember much of my education."
>
> Which is it???
"You mean arithmetic"
No, sir. I mean a whole lot more.
"I do remember NOTHING."
If you cannot win an argument without having to twist words, sir then you
should not be allowed to play
.
>
> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>
> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>
>>That is your problem, sir.
>
> How can the fact that you insist you hear voices from "something
> higher than ourselves," possibly be MY problem?
I made no such claim, sir.
If you cannot win an argument without having to twist words, sir then you
should not be allowed to play
.
>>
>>Oh please, sir. Once cannnot watch the news without hearing about someone
>>your people bombed.
>>
>
> "In respect to the death penalty"!!! Can't you ever read my words
> without distorting them, and lying about it???
>
"In respect to the death penalty"!!!
Is that what you call it?
>>> While Europe continues to fancy Africa as part of her colonial
>>> empire, and will commit murder and genocide if doing so can
>>> maintain hegemony over the indigenous population and the
>>> mineral resources of Africa.
>>
>>Your xenophobia is showing again, sir.
>
> Actually it's Europe's xenophobia,
No, sir. It's yours.
>>As I said, your country is as knee deep in blood as everyone else, sir.
>
> So that excuses "everyone else"???
No, sir.
>>Maybe I can borrow some of yours, sir.
>
> Oh, gee... I'm shattered.. poor Sir shit-for-brains doesn't have
> an original thought in his head and simply uses the typical "you
> to," as some kind of excuses for his psychotic behavior.
"poor Sir shit-for-brains doesn't have
> an original thought in his head "
Don't you, sir? That's hardly suprising.
>>Yes, sir. You're the one whom likes showing off your book collection.
>
> And you, Sir shit-for-brains - like showing off your ignorance
No, sir. I like showing off yours. I'm amazed that one who has so many books
knows so little. Perhaps you should try reading them.
>>No I don't, sir.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>
> Yes... you do, Sir Double-Speak.
>
No I don't, sir.
>> Other people's political
>>views are not your business.
>
> Who are you to tell me what is or is not my business, given this
> is Usenet, and not a closed political meeting of cigar-smoking
> swindlers? Is this more of your God-complex speaking? Are
> you acting as the guard for that closed political meeting?
>
"Who are you to tell me what is or is not my business"
Who are you to poke your nose into what is none of your business?
> You really think name-calling bothers me, when I have the
> evidence of YOUR HOLOCAUST DENIAL!!!
>
No, you don't sir
>>
>>I pick up the cockroach with my hand and take it outside, sir.
>
> Heh... try it sometime. Are you going to put on your "super powers"
> costume that "something higher than ourselves" gave you, so you can
> be faster than a speeding bullet, and pick up that cockroach, because
> it's hoping to rest in your tender arms, and will quietly wait for you
> to pick it up? Fat chance!!
"Heh... try it sometime"
I do, sir.
>
>>> Obviously you would not "step on that cockroach" when it was already
>>> on your baby's arm... or would you?
>>
>>I would not step on the cockroach full stop sir.
>
> Clear... you would let it possibly infect your baby with various
> pathogenic bacteria and viruses they carry on their hairy legs and
> bodies.
No, sir. I would move it. You would stomp on it and infect your baby with
bacteria from its blood, sir.
>> I recall you stating that
>>you would step on it for the hell of it. Do you deny those words, sir?
>
> Without a doubt. I would never let a cockroach get close to my
> baby if it was in my power to kill it before it did. Cockroaches
> have as much value to me as a stone. And I would throw a
> stone in water for the hell of it... just to watch it skip.
>
" Without a doubt. I would never let a cockroach get close to my
> baby if it was in my power to kill it before it did"
Why not just move it, sir? Why are you Americans so obsessed with killing?
>>>The question was phrased to
>>> argue would you kill that cockroach BEFORE it could crawl on your
>>> baby's arm, with the condition that you could not reach that cockroach
>>> with your hand before it did crawl on your baby's arm? Leaving you
>>> ONLY the choice of killing it BEFORE it could crawl on your baby, or
>>> seeing it crawl on your baby's arm.
>>
>>
>>Your question is bunkum. and I have already answered it, sir.
>>
> I know you have. You would permit your baby to possibly be infected
> you _your friend... the cockroach_.
So you did not read my answer, sir. Typical,, dear fellow.
>
>>>
>>>>Are you getting angry again, sir?
>>>>
>>> Well... let me see... you told me "Others' opinions are none of your
>>> business." Now you seem to be overly concerned about my opinions.
>>> But I freely admit that Holocaust denial pisses me off. And you are
>>> a Holocaust denier. That's the benchmark of my being pissed off
>>> at you.
>>
>>Did you dislike that, sir? It was a kind of comment that a fascist would
>>object too
>
> Only a fascist would argue that the opinions of others are _none of
> my business_.
No, sir. Only a fascist would argue that other people's opinions are his
business.
>>
>>>>>>You should think your debates through, sir. Did you have any children
>>>>>>that
>>>>>>lived sir?
>>>>>
>>>>> Does your mother still prostitute herself for a living? Trust me...
>>>>> you start bringing insults to my real family or real children, rather
>>>>> than a hypothetical thought experiment and you will find yourself
>>>>> being accused of screwing your sister. Remember that YOU started
>>>>> it. Now apologize and let's move on.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Does your mother still prostitute herself for a living?"
>>>>
>>>>I am sure she could be persuaded, sir.
>>>
>>> Last I heard she was only getting a dollar a trick.
>>
>>
>>It cannot be my mother you are thinking of, sir. She does not accept
>>American money because she has standards. However I do enjoy that you are
>>such an ignoramus that you fail to comprehend that in my motherland,
>>prostitution is neither illegal nor immoral. It is a respectable
>>profession.
>>The "your mother is a whore" lines do not work on us, dear fellow.
>>
> So that was your mother I saw in that room with the red light, on
> the Damrak... isn't she a little bit old for that "respectable
> profession"? Does she also perform with donkeys??
>
So that was your mother I saw in that room with the red light, on
> the Damrak
What did she look like, sir?
"Does she also perform with donkeys??"
Is that a request, sir? Does bestiality rock your boat, sir? I had
suspected. If you bring the donkey you usually mate with I'm sure that young
lady you met on the Damrak might accomodate you.
>>>
>>>> For a broken down hopeless old man
>>>>such as yourself, she me very likely increase the price.
>>>
>>> I'm not into catching diseases. But what's this "she me very..."?
>>
>>
>>"I'm not into catching diseases"
>>
>>Neither is she, sir.
>
> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>
An unreferenced cite is inadmissible. Did they fail you on referencing at
university, sir or did you fake your certificate?
>>
>>"But what's this "she me very..."
>>
>>
>>
>>English is not my first language, sir. You are a xenophobic Muppet.
>>
>
> English is not your - any language -
English is not my first language, sir. You are a xenophobic Muppet; however,
it is still better than yours is.
.
>
>>>>>>Then you are a murderer, sir, on two counts. One for killing the poor
>>>>>>innocent cockroach
>>>>>
>>>>> ROTFLMAO. Read the definition of murder, you ignorant child.
>>>>> MURDER -- "The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially
>>>>> with premeditated malice."
>>>>> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/murder
>>>>>
>>>>> Insects are NOT "human." Only someone on the edge of sanity could
>>>>> argue that _cockroaches_ are HUMAN.
>>>>
>>>>The unlawful, deliberate killing, sir.
>>>
>>> "of one human by another," shit-for-brains.
>>
>>That must be awfully convenient for you. You are still a murdering
>>bastard,
>>sir
>
> Heh... that from the guy who insists a cockroach is worth every bit as
> much as a human being. It's laughable.
It's worth more than you are, sir.
>
>>>> So if womeone were to kill you it would not be murder.
>>>
>>> What the fuck is a "womeone" (sic)? Is that one of your gang member
>>> that I have to worry about murdering me??
>>>
>>
>>English is not my first language, sir. You are a xenophobic Muppet.
>>
" Hey, I don't care whether English "
Sir? You are going to have to stop your delusion that I care at all about
what you think.
> So in your native Tigrinya language the cockroach is equal to the
> human, and both have been told by "something higher than
> ourselves," that they "a right to life." Is cannibalism also part
> of your culture?
>
"So in your native Tigrinya language "
It makes a nice change from being called, Dutch, sir.
>>
>>AADP neither accepts nor denies anything sir. It is a newsgroup.
>
> You're repeating yourself, Sir shit-for-brains.
>
You have not answered the argument, sir.
>>>
>>> See --
>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rtfq
>>
>>
>>If you will post acronyms, sir.
>>
>
> Sure... why not?
Because you have the bandwidth to post the full expressions even if you lack
the vocabulary, sir.
>
>>> Educated yourself, for fuck's sake. You can't stumble through
>>> life remaining ignorant... even if you think you can.
>>
>>I shall be right behind you in the queue, ignoramus.
>
> There is no question that reason would have the same effect on
> you as daylight has on Dracula.
It would have no effect if he lay asleep in his coffin with the lid closed,
imbecile.
>>"Who the hell are you to tell me what I can and can't do?"
>>
>>
>>
>>Who are you to tell people what to believe, what politics to support, what
>>religions to support?
>>
> I've never done that... "
Wrong, sir. You always do it. if you read a post where someone has a
political or a religious view you don't like, you hound them, you lie and
you try to humiliate and discredit them by twisting their words. You are a
fascist through and through, sir. In addition, you call your practice
"exposing people". You are lower than any cockroach, sir.
>>
>>
>>At no juncture did I claim it was 100% inaccurate, sir.
>
> So it only "accurate" when YOU use it. ROTFLMAO. What a
> sick hubris you have.
>
So it only "accurate" when YOU use it.
No, sir. So it only "innaccurate" when YOU use it
>>>>
>>>>Why Jews, sir? Do you see them more important than the rest of the
>>>>world?
>>>>Are you a racist, sir?
>>>
>>> Six million Jews were exterminated by the Nazis... you insist you
>>> don't "remember" it... so it is not in your memory. Given that fact,
>>> it is obvious that you care more about six million and one cockroaches
>>> than those six million innocent Jews slaughtered by your kinsmen
>>> on the continent of Europe.
>>>
>>
>>" Six million Jews were exterminated by the Nazis"
>>
>>
>>What about everyone else who were exterminated by the Nazis, sir? Don't
>>they
>>count? What about those whom were tortured by the Japanese, sir? Don't
>>tthey
>>count?
>
> What about the six million Jews... don't THEY count???
What about the Polish, sir? Don't they count? What about the Czechs, sir?
Don't they count? What about the norwegians, sir>? Don't they count? What
about the French, sir? Don't they count? What about the Bitish, sir? Don't
they count? What about your own people sir? Don't they count? What about all
the other allied nations who lost people in world war 2, sir? Don't they
count? Then there's thecivilians, sir. Even Germany's own people were
subject to the tyranny, sir. Open your eyes!
> Apparently
> your argument is that because others were murdered in a war in which
> 50 million people lost their lives, those six million Jews are
> insignificant.
You're wrong again, sir. My argument is that all were significant.
>That only shows your anti-Semitism
That is not possible, sir.
>
>>> You're the only racist, sport. That why you need to call me a racist
>>> because I mentioned the Jews... the Jews who you CANNOT
>>> remember... but I do remember them.
>>
>>"You're the only racist, sport">
>>
>>You're guessing, "sport".
>
> It's a subjective viewpoint. White-power group members would gladly
> accept you as not being a racist.
They would not, sir. They would not accept me as white, sir.
>While my opinion holds that you are
> a racist because of the various comments you have offered in insisting
> that you've "never seen a Black person."
Your opinion is wrong, sir.
"never seen a Black person." is not racist, sir. There are no black people.
>>No you can't sir. You hear only your own fantasies
>
> I must be able to hear them.
You hear voices, sir?
>>English is not easy to master, sir. You are 78 and you are still
>>struggling
>>with it.
>
> Oh, gee... I'm shattered.
You should be, sir.
>>et one fact straight, dear fellow. What you and I do here
>>is what the British call "Banter". It is harmless fun for both of us, I
>>hope. There is no threat to your health or any form of physical violence
>>from me, sir. That is not my way. I detest people who beleive they can win
>>arguments with thier fists. It's a losing strategy from day one. You will
>>get no such threat from me, sir.
>
> And yet..... you "warned me." Strange...
The only thing that's strange is you, sir.
>>
>>> And at this point, Death Disco felt he had been hammered quite enough
>>> for one sitting, and decided to just stop responding.
>>
>>No sir. I caught the "send" shortcut. Alt+S when aiming for alt+tab.
>>
>>However I responded to the rest in another post.
>
> This one is quite enough to have made a complete fool of you.
Only in your fantasies, sir.
J
>
>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:ah5r06do51ge3jus8...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 20:55:05 +0100, "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
>> wrote:
>>
>>I've already given you the easiest of differential equations. You
>>have no idea how to even approach a solution. IMO, differential
>>equations are far above both your educational level and your
>>intellect. You have offered nothing that would prove me wrong
>>in my belief. If you did not have the resource of the Internet
>>I doubt seriously you could even describe what a differential
>>equation even is.
>>
>>While your question is itself a piece of rubbish... is it a Wye
>>connection with a neutral? A Wye connection without a neutral?
>>A Delta connection? You need to provide a schematic
>>clarifying which voltage is which, in particular where VL
>>is measured from and to. The schematic also needs to
>>include the 4th and possible 5th wire that carries the unbalanced
>>current and offsets from the reference "0 V". In particular you
>>only go in circles if you have a single three phase voltage, yet
>>have three different individual line potentials, without a
>>defined method of doing the 3 voltages -> 1 voltage.
>>
>>Only with a circuit schematic or more information as to the
>>configuration of the power supply itself, can one compute the
>>equivalent circuit A phase... Circuit B phase... and Circuit C phase.
>>It's not even specified which phase or phases are used as the
>>load. Your question obviously came at the end of a lesson in
>>which various factors were PRESUMED... this is not the case
>>in real life. Only with further information given or a schematic
>>can one determine the equivalent Circuit A Phase... Circuit B
>>Phase.... and Circuit C Phase. If it's an unbalanced Wye load
>>we could use matrix algebra to compute various factors, but
>>we would still need which phase or phases are used for the
>>load voltage out.
>
>You have lost your bet, sir.
No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>> I'm betting that question comes from one of your Dutch handbooks
>> on Electric Circuits and includes a schematic along with the question,
>> which you just tried to translate into English, and fucked it up
>> properly as you did with that other problem. If you can't put the
>> question up with a schematic it's about worthless, in the way you
>> offered it. But here's help... do it yourself.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-phase
>
>
>No, sir. The question was taken from a British academic souce and the
>question was worded correctly. Your response admits that you are unable to
>understand the question, sir.
I don't believe you. Post that source, and the entire problem as it
appears in that source. If you can't do that... you're simply lying.
I'll tell you what... you answer it, and provide a step-by-step answer
to see what you use that you omitted from the parameters of the
problem. One does not even know if you are referring to 400VL
as A/C or D/C.
But the gentle reader should notice that in more of your lies and
deceptions you even clipped out my entire comment which
disproved your argument. So I had to put it back in. You're a very
sick boy... seek help --
>> In any case your problem is a piece of junk not worth my
>> time.
>
>Wrong, sir.
Bullshit, it's just like all your comments... mindless drivel.
>> However, here's one for you that does have a schematic along
>> with the problem. Try to answer this one --
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/circuit.jpg
>
>I see you've found the section on transients in your book, sir
TRANSLATION "That fucking PV... he knows that I don't know
squat when it comes to examining a circuit schematic."
>> This has every bit of the information you need to solve the
>> question.
>>
>
>It does, sir.
And I'll bet you can't solve it.
>> ROTFLMAO... I've got a hundred bucks riding on this one with my
>> friend that you don't have a clue how to even begin.
>>
>
>"ROTFLMAO... I've got a hundred bucks riding on this one "
>
>What I would do, you ask. I would start by looking at what the circuit does,
>sir. At first glance, I see two potential dividers there. I would then
>redraw the equivalent circuit then work out PHI. Once I have that, I can
>plot a graph of the charge/discharge voltage of that capacitor and for good
>measure, I would probably plot the current, also.
ROTFLMAO. You need to provide the ANSWER, sport... not more of your
bullshit. What is the value of v (sub t) for t > 0 ???? From the
problem there is no need to graph it, or try your bullshit. See --
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/circuit.jpg
You have not correctly solved even one of the problems I've given you.
It has a very straightforward answer, if one knows the Laplace
transform method. In fact, there are all kinds of tables listing
various values. Here's some help --
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/LaplaceTransform.html
I think you're a load of bullshit and have no idea how to solve any
Laplace transform.
>You lose your bet, sir.
>
Heh... declaring victory while at the same time admitting defeat in
solving the problem.
> "with my friend that you don't have a clue how to even begin"
>
>You do not fool me, sir. You do not have any friends.
LOL... That from the guy who still has his mommy bring him
his warm milk at night.
"If" you had another brain it would be lonely.
>Given you have a low pass filter with a resistor of 31830 ohms, and a
>capacitor of 1 Nano Farad. at frequency of 500 Cs what is the DB loss and
>the phase angle? You will have to work out the reactance first, sir.
Well, let's see. We've already found the cutoff frequency = 1/(2 x
[pi] x R x c) = 1/(2 x 2.14 x 3.183 x 10^4 x 10^-9) Hz
thus reducing -- cutoff frequency = 5 x 10^3 Hz = 5 KHz
at cutoff frequency Xc = R = 3.183 x10^4 ohms = 31.83 K Ohms
cutoff frequency = -3 db
For the phase angle in degrees we know that it is equal to
-tan^-1(f(in)/f(cutoff))... and f(in)/f(cutoff) = 0.1. So from basic
trig we find that -tan^-1*(0.1) = 10 in degrees. So the phase angle
at 500 Hz is 10 degrees.
As to the dB loss there is insufficient information, since it is
determined by the order of the filter itself. For example: for
first order low pass filters the gain rolls off at a rate of -20
dB/per decade, in the stop band. On the other hand, for
second order low pass filters the roll off is -40 dB/per decade. But
since the frequency you gave is 500 Hz, and the cutoff frequency is
5,000 Hz, I would suspect there would be no dB loss at 500 Hz. See -
http://www.play-hookey.com/ac_theory/lo_pass_filters.html
Now answer please --
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/circuit.jpg
>
>Given a three phase unbalanced supply, VL=400V, Z1=30,Z2=50 and Z3=40 ohm,
>calculate phase voltage, Each line current and the power dissipated across
>each line, sir.
Insufficient information. Provide a circuit schematic and I'll solve
that problem. I mean... you DO have a schematic for the circuit
you describe... don't you????
Answer please --
Solve the differential equation d�x/dt� = -g
With initial conditions x(0) = x(sub o) and v(0) = v(sub o)
Answer please --
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/fourier_transform_quiz.jpg
Answer please --
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/laplace_quiz.jpg
These should keep you busy... if you can even handle one of them.
"If" you were any dumber you'd have to be watered twice a week.
>You have a parallel tuned circuit with a resistance of 68 ohm, a resonant
>frequency of 5khz, and an inductor of 145.4 mH. Calculate the capacitance.
>
Heh... what's this 5khz??? I thought you argued there was no
such thing... that it is KCs?
However... XL at resonance is --> 2*pi*f*h = 4.568 K ohms...
Thus CL must also be 4.568 K ohm. And simple arithmetic to
compute C = 1/(2(pi)*f*4568) gives C = 6.968 *10^-9 = 6.968 nf.
Answer please --
Find the steady-state temperature distribution in the half-space z
0 if the temperature distribution u(r,0) = F(r) is maintained on the
bounding plane face z = 0. Assume that F(r) satisfies the conditions
for the existence of its Hankel transform [1]. Show your work.
Your answer should be in the form of u(r,z) = ????
Answer please --
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Gauss_law_quiz.jpg
Answer please --
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Thevenin_quiz.jpg
I keep making them easier for you... haven't seen you solve one
yet.
>A fourth question, for you, sir. as you've added another, so shall I.
>
>
>You have a resonant tuned circuit of 500 c/s and an inductor of 1mH this
>give you an inductive reactance of 3.142 ohms. Tell me the capacitive
>reactance and show your workings, sir.
ROTFLMAO!!! Okay...
<sarcasm>
We have an XL of 3.142 ohms... So we add the sum of your ignorance to
XL which gives us XL + googol. We then know the relationship of XC to
XL, so we add the sum of your ignorance to XC which gives us XC +
googol. So we have XL + googol = XC + googol, and subtracting googol
from both sides of that equation we have XL = XC. So at resonance XL
= XC. Given XL =3.142 ohms at resonance., XC must also equal 3.412
ohms at resonance.
</sarcasm>
You doofus!!!! At resonance XL = XC. You GAVE me XL, and asked
for XC. Not just trivial but an identity. Actually... no work
involved there. Where do you get your problems from??? Joe Miller's
Joke Book of Electronic Ignorance?
Answer please --
An amplifier has a 4bB noise figure; the bandwidth is B = 500 KHz.
Calculate the input signal power that yields a unity SNR at the
output. Assume T (sub o) = 290 degrees Kelvin and an input
resistance of one ohm.
Answer please --
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/fourier_quiz.jpg
And because you asked me a question about a geometric shape --
One more for good measure --
Answer please --
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/sphere_quiz.jpg
<fx: PV sits back and laughs his head off>
>>>" certainly throw problems at you that you have no idea how to even
>>>> approach"
>>>
>>>No, you cannot sir.
>>
>> Sure I can, shit-for-brains. I've already thrown three at you that
>> you're afraid to even take a stab at.
>>
>
>" Sure I can, shit-for-brains"
>
>No, you cannot sir.
See above, Sir shit-for-brains... I have thousands of them that are
well beyond your intellect.
"If" you were any smarter, your mommy could teach you to fetch.
>"I've already thrown three at you that
>> you're afraid to even take a stab at."
>
>No you haven't, sir.
Of course I have... they are shown above... and you haven't solved
a single question I've thrown at you... NOT ONE!!!
>>> Not when you failed to answer the simple DB problem I
>>>gave you earlier.
>>
>> When you learn how to formulate your problems accurately you'll
>> get better results. Offering mumbo-jumbo only shows your own
>> ignorance.
>
>It's formulated correctly, sir.
No... it's not.
As to the dB loss there is insufficient information, since it is
determined by the order of the filter itself. For example: for
first order low pass filters the gain rolls off at a rate of -20
dB/per decade, in the stop band. On the other hand, for
second order low pass filters the roll off is -40 dB/per decade. But
since the frequency you gave is 500 Hz, and the cutoff frequency is
5,000 Hz, I would suspect there would be no dB loss at 500 Hz. See -
http://www.play-hookey.com/ac_theory/lo_pass_filters.html
>
>>>
>>>Problems you cannot solve, sir.
>>
>>
>"Wrong, sport... "
>I'm glad to hear it, sir. I look forward to seeing your solutions, dear
>fellow.
See above, shit-for-brains.
>>>>
>>>
>>>It's hardly a "simple" problem then, sir.
>>>
>> Yes... but you don't even know the first thing how to start.
>
>You are guessing, sir.
And yet... there you sit... claiming I haven't thrown a problem
at you that you cannot solve. And then you wonder why I call
you a pathological liar.
>>>> But I can "understand" the solution in going through that _cheat
>>>> sheet_. I'm quite sure that you couldn't.
>>>
>>>You're guessing, sir.
>>>
>> Well, prove it!
>
>You haven't posted the cheat sheet yet, sir
When you solve the first step, shit for brains.
>>
>>
>> *profound silence from Sir shit-for-brains*
>
>You were anything by silent, sir.
Your name is "Sir shit-for-brains." Try to separate fact from
your rather disturbed and creepy imagination.
>>>Provide me with the references and sources you used and I shall see if I
>>>can figure it out but it doesn't read like an electrical engineering problem.
>>>It reads like a physics problem.
>>
>> Give you the source so you can look up the answer?
>
>So you looked up the answer sir. I could have guessed.
I have all the answers. You have none.
>>You must be
>> joking. However, the title of the source contains the word
>> "Engineering."
>>
>
>Is it electrical enginnering, sir?.
No... it's electrical "engineering," you stupid shit-for-brains.
Get yourself a spell checker. It will not only improve the appearance
of your comments, but teach you how to spell.
>>>
>>>A curious statement as you have managed to answer only one problem I posed
>>>for you.
>>
>> While you have correctly answered not a one of mine. Hell... you have
>> three waiting for you, >
>>><snip>
>>>
>
>"While you have correctly answered not a one of mine"
>
>You are incorrect, sir. I answered your first one correctly, second time
>round.
The point is that you answered incorrectly. I don't usually answer
questions until I am sure of the answer. See above. I've enjoyed
this since it has made me at times go back to the references I
maintain... you are quite permitted to use any references you might
find helpful... but so far there hasn't been any real effort shown on
your part, because you've become aware that the situation is much
too complex for your limited skills.
"If" brains were taxed, you'd break the EU bank in refunds.
>"Hell... you have three waiting for you,"
>
>You have 4 waiting for you.
I have none waiting for me. In fact, there are two of your own
waiting for you to provide a schematic. You do know what a schematic
is... don't you???
You now have eight questions waiting for you. I promise to give
you at least two for every one you ask me... and I'll bet you whine
that you are unable to answer or even try to answer any of them
with an answer that makes any sense.
Right now the score is eight questions to you with only one
"second-chance" feeble answer from you, and no unanswered
questions from you to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Remember... when you point your finger at me, in "calling the kettle
>>>>>> black," there are three fingers on that same hand pointing right back
>>>>>> at you, sport.
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>As I said before, sir. They are pointing directly at you.
>>
>> Apparently you're also blind.
>
>No, sir.
Talk's cheap, son. See --
http://tinyurl.com/2vwejyl
>>>Basic electrical principles are too complicated for you, evidently sir.
>>
>> Heh... I haven't seen any picture of electrical principles from you,
>> Sir shit-for-brains.
>>
>
>You need pictures, sir?
>You should be able to draw them from the parameters I gave you, sir.
Wrong. YOU should be able to draw them from the parameters you
gave, Sir shit-for-brains. You assert YOU CAN... so you need to PROVE
IT. We both know that you cannot draw the circuits in question given
only the limited parameters you've given.
>>>> An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
>>>
>>>
>>>Exactly my point, sir. As I said, "You have no basis to back up your
>>>assertions, so they can only be guesses"
>>>
>> You're the one asserting that I'm guessing. Prove it. I've
>> got the proof.
>
>You have never backed up your assertions, without proof they are guesses,
>sir.
And yet, you're the one asserting I'm guessing. Logic really is
too complicated for you, sonny. Stick with the warm milk from mommy
at night, and stay out of Internet information sites about electronics
that are too complicated for you.
>> I've already given you the easiest of differential equations.
>
>No, sir.
Yes, sonny. The differential equation is --
Solve the differential equation d�x/dt� = -g
With initial conditions x(0) = x(sub o) and v(0) = v(sub o)
They don't come any easier than that...
<fx: Death Disco begins to sweat, and turn blood-red in the
face>
>>>>>>>It was not a cite, sir, so no reference is required.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Your unreferenced site (sic) is inadmissable (sic)"
>>>>>
>>>>>The word is "cite", sir.
>>>>
>>>> That's why I followed it with a (sic), you moron. See --
>>>> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/sic
>>>> Quote -- "Used to indicate that a quoted passage, especially one
>>>> containing an error or unconventional spelling, has been retained in
>>>> its original form or written intentionally."
>>>>
>>>
>>>"That's why I followed it with a (sic), "
>>>
>>>Which was incorrectly placed sir.
>>
>> Wrong, Sir shit-for-brains. It was placed quite accurately. Since
>> both your use of "site" and your misspelling of "inadmissible,"
>> required mention that it was garbage English.
>>>
>
>It was incorrectly placed sir..
An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
>>>
>>>"Keep in mind that YOU originally misspelled both "cite""
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>No Didn't sir.
>>
>> Yes, you did,
>
>No Didn't sir.
>
Yes, did... Sir shit-for-brains. Unlike you and your absurd lies I
have the PROOF... in your own words. you challenge me to provide
proof positive of your dishonesty. I have this proof, Sir
shit-for-brains. It is unambiguous, undoubted, and in your own hand,
and I believe it is in the interest of newsgroup readers to realize
that your protestations of honesty, repeated over and over, are not
true. You are a pathological liar.
>>
>>>As I said, sir, "Typographical errors are only a bad screwing when you are
>>>writing a paper on English language sir. On newsgroups it's minor at worst
>>>and only used as ammunition for imbeciles like you whom can't win their
>>>arguments any other way".
>>
>> You can say it forever, and it won't for a single second hide your
>> shown ignorance of the English language.
>
>English is not my first language, xenophobe,
Well, English is my mother-tongue and I despise it being assassinated
by someone who isn't intent upon learning English, but instead intent
upon using it to spread poisonous filth, and pathological lies. After
all.... you did write that -- "if i do not approve of a definition I
simply choose not to use it." That's proof you are not trying to
learn English, but to corrupt it.
However, you're the xenophobe, since you insisted I cannot use
"American English." I just wish you'd use English in ways in which
you do not intend to corrupt the English language. I'll take any
kind... as long as you don't use it to spread hate, and Holocaust
denial, and other venomous lies.
>> "Education is the best provision for the journey to old age." --
>> Aristotle.
>
>
>Who mentioned education, sir? We were talking of typographical errors, sir.
>
We're talking about your stupidity.. which is truly astonishing in
it's breadth and length.
>>
>>>Perhaps you should invest in a Thesaurus, sir.
>>
>> And yet that's all you have to say. Repetitive mindless drivel.
>
>Pot, kettle, black, sir.
Hardly... See..
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/thesaurus.jpg
That's just one of them, Sir shit-for-brains... You really are an
emotional wreck, my boy... seek help.
>
>>>>>No I don't sir. Wait a can hear your voice now. It's a high pitched
>>>>>meaningless whine.
>>>>
>>>> No... that's the sound of those cockroaches that you protect from
>>>> being "murdered" (sic). ROTFLMAO. Death Disco --> AADP's
>>>> cockroach protector. Won't let anything harm his "poor
>>>> innocent cockroach," insisting that killing a cockroach is defined
>>>> as "murder" to him.
>>>>
>>>
>>>"No"
>>>
>>
>> Yes.
>
>No.
YES!!! Heh heh heh... got you going. You've made lying your
profession. YES... YES... YES...
>>>It's definately your voice, sir.
>>
>> Too bad your comment only again displays your ignorance of the
>> English language.
>
>You're guessing, sir.
Hardly... there is not a single post from you that does not contain
either a new lie, or a denial of your past lies. And lying is
well-known as an attempt to cover-up for ignorance. Your
post here carries a number of your lies.
>>>>
>>>Nonsense, dear fellow. It is unknown therefor I cannot know it.
>>
>> But you said you _know_ it. You said it was "something higher
>> than ourselves." Well, how could that be if you didn't hear it from
>> "it"? Who told you? Oh, wait... it's that Bible talking to you
>> again... never mind.
>>
>
>Nonsense, dear fellow. It is unknown therefor I cannot know it.
And yet.... you insist you DO KNOW there is "something higher than
ourselves," who has TOLD YOU there is this fairy tale of "a right to
life for cockroaches, rats, flies, bacteria and other pathogens." With
each human falling someone in between one cockroach and two
cockroaches in worth.
Once again, in your imaginary belief that "nature" is that "something
higher than ourselves" and has given all biological life a "right to
life," you offer another one of your logical fallacies, "The appeal to
nature" fallacy. See --
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/logic.html#natural
It's thinking like yours that leads to the taking of life, in the
mistaken belief that doing so protects "a right to life." Clearly in
your argument about your precious cockroaches, you have insisted
that the lives of two cockroaches as twice as important as the
life of one human being.
I'll ask you again... would you kill two cockroaches to save a
murderer from being executed?
>>>Simple logic, sir.
>>
>> ROTFLMAO. Doesn't that word stick in your craw, considering you
>> have no idea what it really means???
>
>Id that the best you can do, sir? It is apparently.
Was that the best you could do in arguing "Simple logic," in support
of one of the most massive efforts to diminish the human race ever
seen in Usenet?
>>>>
>>>"Yes, you did".
>>>
>>>No I didn't, sir.
>>
>> See above... PROOF positive. Poor ol' Sir shit-for-brains... caught
>> in yet another lie.
>>
>
>No proof at all, sir.
And yet the proof is there... in your own words. your argument when
put into logical terms is "x is something higher than ourselves." and
"x is an unknown." But you know that "x is something higher than
ourselves," So "x is not unknown to Death Disco."
quod erat demonstrandum -- Death Disco claims to "know the unknown."
And what's even more revealing is that you clipped the proof, but
left only your denials in.
"Nature" doesn't give a shit about biological life, Sir
shit-for-brains. Your unnatural belief that abstractions _talk to
you_, is the sign of a sick mind.
>>>"Shit, son"
>>>
>>>I shall take that as a yes.
>>
>> Take it any way you want to...
>
>Oh I will, sir.
You've always been a master of lies... why should I expect otherwise?
"If" ignorance were a crime, you'd be on the "ten most wanted" list.
>
><snip Mr Noles' puerile nonsense>
Heh... Death Disco admits that my credentials are in order, yet has
even swallowed the key to his desk in which he keeps his imaginary
credentials (along with his trusty Bible), to make sure he can claim
anything he wants.
>>>>>>>You believe in a god, sir?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is the word "if" (a conditional clause) too complicated for you? IF
>>>>>> you were a bird you could fly. But you aren't a bird.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>"Is the word "if" (a conditional clause)"
>>>
>>>Yes it is sir.
>>
>> Well, then... wake up!!
>
>You're droning would send anyone to sleep, sir.
There's a solution for that... simply ignore my ruination of
all your arguments, rather than respond with these endless streams
of lies and mindless drivel of yours.
>>>"IF you were a bird you could fly. But you aren't a bird"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I could fly in an aeroplane, sir.
>>
>> No. sport... it's the "aeroplane" that flies. Not you. If you
>> could jump on the back of one of your dragons,
>
>My dragons, sir?
Yeah, one of your imaginary dragons.
>
>"No. sport... it's the "aeroplane" that flies. Not you"
>
>Only if you forget to get on it, sir.
>
You're insane... by now even you must realize that your trolley has
jumped the tracks. Have mommy bring you some warm milk and
tuck you in, you've used up all your lies for today.
>> In any case... read my word, Sir shit-for-brains. It refers
>> to BIRDS... and doesn't even say that YOU can't fly but
>> that IF you were a bird you could fly.
>
>And my words do not testify that I cannot fly without an aircraft, sir.
>They stipulate only that I can fly on one.
That's not YOU flying, Sir shit-for-brains.
>I would hope that you did not do much programming in your alleged masters
>degree, sir. You do not have the logic for it.
ROTFLMAO... Death Disco insists that getting on a plane that
flies means HE can fly... and calls that _his logic_. Perhaps
you should examine the logical fallacy of "The Affirmation of
the Consequent." See --
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/logic.html#consequent
Notice that your argument is "A" - I can fly implies "B" because the
aircraft can fly me. Just because "B" is true, does not mean "A" is
true. You cannot fly, bird boy.
"If" there were an Easter Bunny, Death Disco would claim that the
Easter Bunny told him there is this "right to life for cockroaches and
other vermin."
>But, given that
>> you also hear voices I suspect you also believe you can be
>> transmogrified into a bird, simply by stepping into the
>> teleporter from StarTrek. Perhaps a carrion eating bird...
>> it would certainly be apposite (look that word up in your handy
>> pocket English dictionary).
>>
>
>"But, given that
>> you also hear voices "
>
>I can hear them now, sir. the radio is on.
Is that those voices coming from your tin hat antenna? Pretty soon
you'll have to put up a sign to warn others. See --
http://tinyurl.com/32tx8n3
>
>>>>>I ended my comment with a question mark, sir. I was asking you a
>>>>>question.
>>>>
>>>> Well... I don't believe in a God. Certainly not one who figures that
>>>> all biological life, down to viruses and mosquitoes must be given some
>>>> "right to life." Nor do I consider cockroaches to be equal to human
>>>> beings as you have insisted.
>>>>
>>>
>>>"I don't believe in a God"
>>>
>>>You don't, sir? Then why do you keep asking it to strike me down?
>>
>> Are you still confused about the word "if," Sir shit-for-brains???
>> But trust me... if would no big loss to humanity. Although
>> cockroaches might attend your funeral. With cockroaches,
>> mourning the loss of their "champion," who insists they are
>> each the equal of a human being, up to the neck of everyone
>> around it. No greater love hath man... than Death Disco for
>> the cockroach.
>>
>
>"Are you still confused about the word "if," "
>
>Oh there's no confusion, sir.
They why is it you continue to insist the word doesn't exist in my
comment, shit-for-brains?
"If" ignorance were painful, you'd be in agony.
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>I have not killed anyone sir.
>>>>
>>>> So that's your excuse for the slaughter of the Tutsis in Africa????
>>
>>>
>>>You perceive that innocence is an excuse? Curious.
>>
>> When you're part of the problem!!!
>
>The part of the problem is the people doing the killing; the other part of
>the problem is the politics behind the people doing the killing. If you are
>involved in neither of those then you are not part of the problem.
>
All men are political animals. If you don't fight against it... then
you are fighting for it. I haven't yet seen you write that you regret
or despise the killing of those Tutsis. But I have seen you insist
you do not know of the Holocaust, while telling the Jews that
"after sixty years, it's time for them to get over it."
>>> I wasn't at the holocaust. I do remember much of my
>>>education, however.
>>
>> You mean arithmetic. Big deal. But again we have your
>> two-faced claim. 1) You state "I do remember NOTHING."
>> and then you state 2) "I do remember much of my education."
>>
>> Which is it???
>
>"You mean arithmetic"
>No, sir. I mean a whole lot more.
An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
> "I do remember NOTHING."
>
>If you cannot win an argument without having to twist words, sir then you
>should not be allowed to play
>
I put up your EXACT words, Sir shit-for-brains. Don't imply I'm lying
when you said exactly that in very precise words.
>> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>>
>> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
>> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
>> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>>
>>>That is your problem, sir.
>>
>> How can the fact that you insist you hear voices from "something
>> higher than ourselves," possibly be MY problem?
>
>I made no such claim, sir.
Sure you did, you airhead. How do you KNOW that there is
a "right to life for all biological life"? There is no written word
from "someone higher than ourselves," unless you are thumping
your Bible. You imagine that "nature" and "biology" TALK TO
YOU?? No one else hears those voices from "nature" and "biology."
An abstraction cannot offer some kind of fact. "Nature" and
"biology" do not dispense "rights" to anything or any one.
"If" one wanted to write rubbish, they could take lessons from you.
>If you cannot win an argument without having to twist words, sir then you
>should not be allowed to play
>
TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
I wasn't what he found me to be so I could show he is not correct,
but the bastard hit the nail right on the head."
>>>
>>>Oh please, sir. Once cannnot watch the news without hearing about someone
>>>your people bombed.
>>>
>>
>> "In respect to the death penalty"!!! Can't you ever read my words
>> without distorting them, and lying about it???
>
>"In respect to the death penalty"!!!
>
>Is that what you call it?
Isn't that what was stated in my words? Are you deaf, dumb and
blind... or just incredibly stupid with a pathological need to lie?
Once again... to clear this up, because of you hoping to first remove
my words, and then twist them into saying what I did not say... here
is my comment... repeated for you -- which you had clipped out.
---------------------------------
Wrong again... the only people interfering in the affairs of other
states in respect to the death penalty is the EU trying to exert
pressure on the U.S. in an internal matter. I don't know of
any American having posted to AADP who gives a shit what
the EU does with her murderers. I know I don't care! Yet the
EU remains *profoundly silence* when it comes to condemning
Islamic Sharia law, which stones women for adultery, and hangs
those who are homosexuals.
---------------------------------
See the words "in respect to the death penalty," you lying sack of
shit?
>>>> While Europe continues to fancy Africa as part of her colonial
>>>> empire, and will commit murder and genocide if doing so can
>>>> maintain hegemony over the indigenous population and the
>>>> mineral resources of Africa.
>>>
>>>Your xenophobia is showing again, sir.
>>
>> Actually it's Europe's xenophobia,
>
>No, sir. It's yours.
>
Wrong, shit-for-brains. As I've explained I don't give a rat's ass if
the EU holds a parade and makes sure that every murderer enjoys
a conjugal weekend with Miss EU. That's the EU's business.
However, when the EU starts fucking with what WE do with OUR
murderers... they are the ones demonstrating xenophobia. You really
need to look up the word, shit for brains. See --
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/xenophobia
XENOPHOBIA -- "Extreme dislike or fear of foreigners, their customs,
their religions, etc."
Our custom is that we handle our murderers as we see fit... you and
the rest of the EU show "extreme dislike" for OUR custom. In fact,
the same applies to the U.S. being a strongly religious based
citizenship (for some reason which eludes me... because it's truly
stupid, IMO. But I can form that opinion, without being xenophobic,
because I am an American). The EU really has little to do other than
complain about the so-called "American religious right," that drives
members of the EU into fits of raving hysteria, and fear greater than
their fear of an EU 9/11.
Don't even try to argue otherwise, because the evidence is there.
As you've argued -- "Who are you to poke your nose into what is none
of your business?" Apparently your xenophobia applies to your
objection to me sticking my nose in... while you have no problem with
you sticking YOUR nose in... what is none of your business.
>>>As I said, your country is as knee deep in blood as everyone else, sir.
>>
>> So that excuses "everyone else"???
>
>No, sir.
Then why do I not see you having ever complained about the Holocaust
or the genocide in Rwanda, or the genocide in the former state of
Yugoslavia? Why have I never seen you complain about the growing
influence of Islamic terrorism in Europe which led to the murder of
Theo Van Gogh? Or the fact that riots raged across the EU when
cartoons were published lampooning Mohammed? Or the fact that
Geert Wilders must be protected 24 hours a day, every day, because
he is anti-Muslim terrorism? Or the fact that Muslim fathers and
brothers murder their daughters if they have anything to do with
non-Muslims, believing "family honor" (sic) is better served through
murder of one's own family? Why have I not seen you complain
about these images right from the UK --
http://michellemalkin.com/2006/02/03/In-their-own-words/
Or is that you in one of those "protests"?
>>>Maybe I can borrow some of yours, sir.
>>
>> Oh, gee... I'm shattered.. poor Sir shit-for-brains doesn't have
>> an original thought in his head and simply uses the typical "you
>> to," as some kind of excuses for his psychotic behavior.
>
>"poor Sir shit-for-brains doesn't have
>> an original thought in his head "
>
>Don't you, sir? That's hardly suprising.
TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
I wasn't what he found me to be so I could show he is not correct,
but the bastard hit the nail right on the head."
>>>Yes, sir. You're the one whom likes showing off your book collection.
>>
>> And you, Sir shit-for-brains - like showing off your ignorance
>
>No, sir. I like showing off yours. I'm amazed that one who has so many books
>knows so little. Perhaps you should try reading them.
>
TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
I wasn't what he found me to be so I could show he is not correct,
but the bastard hit the nail right on the head."
And yet, I've answered all your questions, while you have answered not
a single one of mine, other than a feeble stab in your original
answer, and then thinking you'd better revise it after you took a
piss. And a question that was not meant to test anything other than
your very basic knowledge of resonance. Which any 14-year-old
knows if he is interested in science of any kind. So you really
haven't proved that you're older than 14.
>>>No I don't, sir.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>
>> Yes... you do, Sir Double-Speak.
>>
>No I don't, sir.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>> Other people's political
>>>views are not your business.
>>
>> Who are you to tell me what is or is not my business, given this
>> is Usenet, and not a closed political meeting of cigar-smoking
>> swindlers? Is this more of your God-complex speaking? Are
>> you acting as the guard for that closed political meeting?
>>
>
>"Who are you to tell me what is or is not my business"
>
>Who are you to poke your nose into what is none of your business?
>
Who are you to tell me what is "none of your business"? That's
your fascism talking, Sir shit-for-brains.
Clearly you are the one trying to set LIMITS on my "freedom of
speech." Pure fascism on your part.
"If" brains were dynamite, you couldn't blow your nose.
>> You really think name-calling bothers me, when I have the
>> evidence of YOUR HOLOCAUST DENIAL!!!
>>
>
>No, you don't sir
>
Sure I do... your exact words --
1) "You do not remember what is not in your memory and it is not in
your memory if you did not experience or witness it first hand."
2) "You cannot forget or remember the extermination of 6 million jews
unless you remember them."
3) "You cannot forget or remember the extermination of
6 million jews unless you remember them and to remember
them you must have experienced them first hand."
etc.. etc... etc... While you do "remember" the Crusades and the
Greeks bearing gifts!!! And below all the other murders committed
in WW II... but you NEVER "remember" the Holocaust.
>>>I pick up the cockroach with my hand and take it outside, sir.
>>
>> Heh... try it sometime. Are you going to put on your "super powers"
>> costume that "something higher than ourselves" gave you, so you can
>> be faster than a speeding bullet, and pick up that cockroach, because
>> it's hoping to rest in your tender arms, and will quietly wait for you
>> to pick it up? Fat chance!!
>
>"Heh... try it sometime"
>
>I do, sir.
No proof offered. Your claim fails.
"A cockroach, for instance, flees from a predator when it detects a
puff of air. It works out the wind direction, and acts in less than 60
milliseconds."
and --
"High-speed videos showed that a cockroach could run 1.5 metres
(almost five feet) per second. As it increased speed, the cockroach
leaned back and ran on only four of its six legs. To zoom along at top
speed, it ran on only its two back legs."
See --
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v15/i3/animal.asp
Biological facts that limit the response time of all humans show it
is virtually impossible to reach down and pick up a cockroach with
the fingers of your hand. At most you'll get only the slippery
feel of the bacterial agents that cover his body, as he quickly
rushes across the face of your baby in getting away. Unless you have
fed that cockroach a hearty dose of vodka beforehand.
>>>> Obviously you would not "step on that cockroach" when it was already
>>>> on your baby's arm... or would you?
>>>
>>>I would not step on the cockroach full stop sir.
>>
>> Clear... you would let it possibly infect your baby with various
>> pathogenic bacteria and viruses they carry on their hairy legs and
>> bodies.
>
>
>No, sir. I would move it. You would stomp on it and infect your baby with
>bacteria from its blood, sir.
The problem did not offer a "door number three," shit-for-brains. By
inventing one you only show your ignorance and sly attempts to cheat
on the problem. It's that "if" factor that you want to use... the
"if" I could pick it up before it ran on my baby I would... but you
can't because the problem itself does not permit it.
>>> I recall you stating that
>>>you would step on it for the hell of it. Do you deny those words, sir?
>>
>> Without a doubt. I would never let a cockroach get close to my
>> baby if it was in my power to kill it before it did. Cockroaches
>> have as much value to me as a stone. And I would throw a
>> stone in water for the hell of it... just to watch it skip.
>>
>>" Without a doubt. I would never let a cockroach get close to my
>> baby if it was in my power to kill it before it did"
>
>Why not just move it, sir? Why are you Americans so obsessed with killing?
Because that wasn't part of the "thought experiment." Look... if
you're going to cheat and lie... then do whatever you want... but it's
obvious that all you are doing is cheating while hoping to use ad
hominem to attack me for wanting to protect my baby.
In the end... the thought experiment proved one thing... and one thing
only... you value the life of that cockroach equally or greater than
the value you place on the health of your baby. I do not value the
life of that cockroach equal to anything more than a rock. And just
as I would try to catch a rock that was thrown at my baby, I would try
to kill that cockroach before it had any chance of running onto any
part of my baby, or any object that my baby would come across.
And I don't permit my baby to _crawl on the floor_.
>>>>The question was phrased to
>>>> argue would you kill that cockroach BEFORE it could crawl on your
>>>> baby's arm, with the condition that you could not reach that cockroach
>>>> with your hand before it did crawl on your baby's arm? Leaving you
>>>> ONLY the choice of killing it BEFORE it could crawl on your baby, or
>>>> seeing it crawl on your baby's arm.
>>>
>>>
>>>Your question is bunkum. and I have already answered it, sir.
>>>
>> I know you have. You would permit your baby to possibly be infected
>> you _your friend... the cockroach_.
>
>So you did not read my answer, sir. Typical,, dear fellow.
There is no "door number three," cheater.
>>>>
>>>>>Are you getting angry again, sir?
>>>>>
>>>> Well... let me see... you told me "Others' opinions are none of your
>>>> business." Now you seem to be overly concerned about my opinions.
>>>> But I freely admit that Holocaust denial pisses me off. And you are
>>>> a Holocaust denier. That's the benchmark of my being pissed off
>>>> at you.
>
>>>
>>>Did you dislike that, sir? It was a kind of comment that a fascist would
>>>object too
>>
>> Only a fascist would argue that the opinions of others are _none of
>> my business_.
>
>
>No, sir. Only a fascist would argue that other people's opinions are his
>business.
Only a fascist objects to "freedom of speech."
When other people's opinions demonstrate hate I feel it is my moral
obligation to confront that hate. You would argue that doing so is
fascism... but doing so is "freedom of speech."
When you argue Holocaust denial, there is no question that I will
confront you. Your problem is that you can't defend your Holocaust
denial views, so you insist they are "your business," and thus "none
of my business." Confronting Holocaust denial is not fascism...
Holocaust denial is fascism.
>>>>>>>You should think your debates through, sir. Did you have any children
>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>lived sir?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does your mother still prostitute herself for a living? Trust me...
>>>>>> you start bringing insults to my real family or real children, rather
>>>>>> than a hypothetical thought experiment and you will find yourself
>>>>>> being accused of screwing your sister. Remember that YOU started
>>>>>> it. Now apologize and let's move on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Does your mother still prostitute herself for a living?"
>>>>>
>>>>>I am sure she could be persuaded, sir.
>>>>
>>>> Last I heard she was only getting a dollar a trick.
>>>
>>>
>>>It cannot be my mother you are thinking of, sir. She does not accept
>>>American money because she has standards. However I do enjoy that you are
>>>such an ignoramus that you fail to comprehend that in my motherland,
>>>prostitution is neither illegal nor immoral. It is a respectable
>>>profession.
>>>The "your mother is a whore" lines do not work on us, dear fellow.
>>>
>> So that was your mother I saw in that room with the red light, on
>> the Damrak... isn't she a little bit old for that "respectable
>> profession"? Does she also perform with donkeys??
>>
>
>>So that was your mother I saw in that room with the red light, on
>> the Damrak
>
>What did she look like, sir?
A drunken slut.
>"Does she also perform with donkeys??"
>
>Is that a request, sir?
Why would you think so? Does she honor requests?
>Does bestiality rock your boat, sir?
Apparently it rocks yours... since you seem quite determined to
defend your mother's video with that donkey.
> I had
>suspected. If you bring the donkey you usually mate with I'm sure that young
>lady you met on the Damrak might accomodate you.
Your mother has her own donkey. Your sister bought it for her using
the money that you pay your sister for those "sexual favors" she gives
you. Those things are bad enough... but they dim in importance to
your attempts to deny the Holocaust.
>>>>> For a broken down hopeless old man
>>>>>such as yourself, she me very likely increase the price.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not into catching diseases. But what's this "she me very..."?
>>>
>>>
>>>"I'm not into catching diseases"
>>>
>>>Neither is she, sir.
>>
>> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>>
>
>An unreferenced cite is inadmissible. Did they fail you on referencing at
>university, sir or did you fake your certificate?
>
What "unreferenced cite"?
>>>"But what's this "she me very..."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>English is not my first language, sir. You are a xenophobic Muppet.
>>>
>>
>> English is not your - any language -
>
>
>English is not my first language, sir. You are a xenophobic Muppet; however,
>it is still better than yours is.
>
You only wish... While my wish is that you stop --
1) acting like a craven coward
2) displaying the depressing burden of your exiguous education
3) showing your disgusting ignorance
4) planting some defamatory slander
5) insisting that voices are telling you things that are "unknown"
6) sowing your hebephrenic and insensate nature
7) expressing your acerbic insolence
8) inserting your nefarious antipathy toward humanity
9) raving in your lubricous xenophobic hubris
10) exhibiting a proclivity for disgraceful buffoonery
11) ranting in frenzied and fallacious demagoguery
12) revealing your malfeasant racism
13) parading a shameful and evil Holocaust denial
14) creating a catachrestic destruction of the English language
15) flaunting your grotesque and ludicrous catagenetic representation
of humans as no better than cockroaches
and --
16) offering your disingenuous and fraudulent cheating and lying
etc...etc... etc...
>>>>>>>Then you are a murderer, sir, on two counts. One for killing the poor
>>>>>>>innocent cockroach
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ROTFLMAO. Read the definition of murder, you ignorant child.
>>>>>> MURDER -- "The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially
>>>>>> with premeditated malice."
>>>>>> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/murder
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Insects are NOT "human." Only someone on the edge of sanity could
>>>>>> argue that _cockroaches_ are HUMAN.
>>>>>
>>>>>The unlawful, deliberate killing, sir.
>>>>
>>>> "of one human by another," shit-for-brains.
>>>
>>>That must be awfully convenient for you. You are still a murdering
>>>bastard,
>>>sir
>>
>> Heh... that from the guy who insists a cockroach is worth every bit as
>> much as a human being. It's laughable.
>
>It's worth more than you are, sir.
Awww... isn't that sweet... Death Disco loves murderers, but insists
he also loves cockroaches.
>>>>> So if womeone were to kill you it would not be murder.
>>>>
>>>> What the fuck is a "womeone" (sic)? Is that one of your gang member
>>>> that I have to worry about murdering me??
>>>>
>>>
>>>English is not my first language, sir. You are a xenophobic Muppet.
>>>
>" Hey, I don't care whether English "
>
>Sir? You are going to have to stop your delusion that I care at all about
>what you think.
>
And yet you're still here. The gentle reader would find that a bit
unbelievable. You seem to care a great deal about what I think, since
you insist that I not speak of what I think of the opinions of
others... that you in your best fascist uniform insist is "none of
your business." You care so much about "what I think," that you
want to shut me up... one way or another. You're a very sick boy,
shit-for-brains... seek help.
Hey... bet you can't answer any of those nine questions I've given
you. Come on... I need to make some money from my friend. He's
betting you can solve the one on Fourier transforms. I'm betting you
had to look up what a "Fourier transform" even is.
"If" your ambition is to get educated... you're going at it in the
wrong direction, shit-for-brains.
>
>> So in your native Tigrinya language the cockroach is equal to the
>> human, and both have been told by "something higher than
>> ourselves," that they "a right to life." Is cannibalism also part
>> of your culture?
>>
>
>"So in your native Tigrinya language "
>
>It makes a nice change from being called, Dutch, sir.
HTH
>>>
>>>AADP neither accepts nor denies anything sir. It is a newsgroup.
>>
>> You're repeating yourself, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>
>
>You have not answered the argument, sir.
Your argument is that I have no right to free speech in this newsgroup
or any newsgroup, because you insist it's "none of your business." How
am I supposed to answer such an argument, other than to remark that
it's typical fascism?
>>>> See --
>>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rtfq
>>>
>>>
>>>If you will post acronyms, sir.
>>>
>>
>> Sure... why not?
>
>Because you have the bandwidth to post the full expressions even if you lack
>the vocabulary, sir.
If you can't figure out the acronym that only reflects upon your
intelligence, shit-for-brains.
>>
>>>> Educated yourself, for fuck's sake. You can't stumble through
>>>> life remaining ignorant... even if you think you can.
>>>
>>>I shall be right behind you in the queue, ignoramus.
>>
>> There is no question that reason would have the same effect on
>> you as daylight has on Dracula.
>
>It would have no effect if he lay asleep in his coffin with the lid closed,
>imbecile.
>
TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
I wasn't what he found me to be so I could show he is not correct,
but the bastard hit the nail right on the head."
>>>"Who the hell are you to tell me what I can and can't do?"
>>>
>>>Who are you to tell people what to believe, what politics to support, what
>>>religions to support?
>>>
>> I've never done that... "
>
>Wrong, sir. You always do it. if you read a post where someone has a
>political or a religious view you don't like, you hound them, you lie and
>you try to humiliate and discredit them by twisting their words. You are a
>fascist through and through, sir. In addition, you call your practice
>"exposing people". You are lower than any cockroach, sir.
>
My, my... look at that fascist rage. All because I've humiliated
and discredited you and your Holocaust revision.
But given you have more affection for the cockroach than for the
health of your baby, it's no insult for YOU to claim I'm "lower
than any cockroach." My word... YOU LOVE COCKROACHES!!
So why should I worry that _you don't love ME_?
Come on... let's try another "thought experiment." If you could
save the life of one cockroach by killing me... would you kill me? Of
course you would... There is that much hate in your heart for me.
Would you kill one cockroach to save my life, or the life of ANY
human???
You're not well... you're mentally unbalanced... seek help.
>>>At no juncture did I claim it was 100% inaccurate, sir.
>>
>> So it only "accurate" when YOU use it. ROTFLMAO. What a
>> sick hubris you have.
>>
>
>So it only "accurate" when YOU use it.
>
>No, sir. So it only "innaccurate" when YOU use it
If that were only a word in the English language. Do you always
make mistakes when you fly into one of your childish tantrums?
Answer the question.
>>>>>Why Jews, sir? Do you see them more important than the rest of the
>>>>>world?
>>>>>Are you a racist, sir?
>>>>
>>>> Six million Jews were exterminated by the Nazis... you insist you
>>>> don't "remember" it... so it is not in your memory. Given that fact,
>>>> it is obvious that you care more about six million and one cockroaches
>>>> than those six million innocent Jews slaughtered by your kinsmen
>>>> on the continent of Europe.
>>>>
>>>
>>>" Six million Jews were exterminated by the Nazis"
>>>
>>>
>>>What about everyone else who were exterminated by the Nazis, sir? Don't
>>>they count? What about those whom were tortured by the Japanese, sir? Don't
>>>tthey count?
>>
>> What about the six million Jews... don't THEY count???
>
>What about the Polish, sir? Don't they count? What about the Czechs, sir?
>Don't they count? What about the norwegians, sir>? Don't they count? What
>about the French, sir? Don't they count? What about the Bitish, sir? Don't
>they count? What about your own people sir? Don't they count? What about all
>the other allied nations who lost people in world war 2, sir? Don't they
>count? Then there's thecivilians, sir. Even Germany's own people were
>subject to the tyranny, sir. Open your eyes!
What about the Jews? Suddenly you "remember" the Polish, the Czechs,
the Norwegians, the French, the British, the Americans... Yet, you
cannot "remember" the Jews. And then you question my finding that to
be Holocaust denial. You do know the definition of "The Holocaust" in
its latest and most current meaning, don't you? See --
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/holocaust?view=uk
See that "holocaust" (lower case, without "the") means "destruction or
slaughter on a mass scale," while "The Holocaust" (upper case "H"
and including the word "the") means "the mass murder of Jews under
the German Nazi regime in World War II."
Now I don't call you a "holocaust" denier (small "h"), since you seem
to suddenly "remember" all the "destruction or slaughter on a mass
scale." But I do call you a "Holocaust denier" (upper case "H") for
the simple reason that you insist you cannot "remember" the killing of
the Jews in WW II. In fact you do everything in your power to argue
that there were no Jews murdered in WW II because of their race or
religion. You "remember" every murder in WW II EXCEPT the murder
of the Jews. You've just shown that in plain words.
>> Apparently
>> your argument is that because others were murdered in a war in which
>> 50 million people lost their lives, those six million Jews are
>> insignificant.
>
>You're wrong again, sir. My argument is that all were significant.
Yet you never mention the Jews... in fact you insist you CANNOT
"remember" any Jews exterminated in WW II, while you certainly
"remember" others murdered in WW II.
You're one very sick puppy.
>>That only shows your anti-Semitism
>
>That is not possible, sir.
An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
>
>>
>>>> You're the only racist, sport. That why you need to call me a racist
>>>> because I mentioned the Jews... the Jews who you CANNOT
>>>> remember... but I do remember them.
>>>
>>>"You're the only racist, sport">
>>>
>>>You're guessing, "sport".
>>
>> It's a subjective viewpoint. White-power group members would gladly
>> accept you as not being a racist.
>
>They would not, sir. They would not accept me as white, sir.
An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
But here it comes, gentle reader... according to Death Disco even
White-power groups are not "White people." So obviously he argues
that because THEY are not "White," they would not accept him as
"White."
>>While my opinion holds that you are
>> a racist because of the various comments you have offered in insisting
>> that you've "never seen a Black person."
>
>
>Your opinion is wrong, sir.
>"never seen a Black person." is not racist, sir. There are no black people.
>
Wrong again, sport. You may not like English definitions... you may
even insist you don't accept English definitions.... yet there they
are.... staring you in the face -- See --
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/black
BLACK -- "Of or belonging to a racial group having brown to black
skin, especially one of African origin: the Black population of South
Africa." Notice that "Black" in that case is capitalized. Just as
Italian, or French, or German is capitalized. But then you claim
you've never seen an Italian, or French, or German, either. It's
those damn cockroaches, that have your affection... all 4,000
recognized species of cockroaches.
>>>No you can't sir. You hear only your own fantasies
>>
>> I must be able to hear them. Since I repeat them so accurately,
>>when expose your lies, your racism, your Holocaust denial, and
>>your _hearing voices from "something higher than ourselves."
>>
>
>You hear voices, sir?
>
I hear you claiming to hear voices from "nature," "biology," and
"something higher than ourselves." It's no feat to hear voices
from REAL PEOPLE. But it's quite a feat for you to claim you
hear voices from abstractions such as "nature," "biology," and
"something higher than ourselves." Do you also hear voices
from your friend... the cockroach???
>>>English is not easy to master, sir. You are 78 and you are still
>>>struggling with it.
>>
>> Oh, gee... I'm shattered. Death Disco, who hope to annihilate the
>>English language by insisting if he sees a definition he _doesn't
>>like_ he simply refuses to accept it, tells me I'm struggling with
>>English.
>
>You should be, sir.
Really, my ignorant juvenile spoiled brat... if you feel attacking me
because of my age is somehow relevant, it only shows how miserably
inadequate, and filled with hate, and Holocaust denial, your arguments
are.
>>>et one fact straight, dear fellow. What you and I do here
>>>is what the British call "Banter". It is harmless fun for both of us, I
>>>hope. There is no threat to your health or any form of physical violence
>>>from me, sir. That is not my way. I detest people who beleive they can win
>>>arguments with thier fists. It's a losing strategy from day one. You will
>>>get no such threat from me, sir.
>>
>> And yet..... you "warned me." Strange...
>
>The only thing that's strange is you, sir.
TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
I wasn't what he found me to be so I could show he is not correct,
but the bastard hit the nail right on the head."
>>>> And at this point, Death Disco felt he had been hammered quite enough
>>>> for one sitting, and decided to just stop responding.
>>>
>>>No sir. I caught the "send" shortcut. Alt+S when aiming for alt+tab.
>>>
>>>However I responded to the rest in another post.
>>
>> This one is quite enough to have made a complete fool of you.
>
>Only in your fantasies, sir.
It's always nice to meet up with someone like you... since it makes
my limited intellect positively glow in brilliance in comparison.
Now about those nine problems... I'll expect an answer to at least
one of them in 48 hours, unless you expect to weasel out of it.
>
>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:ah5r06do51ge3jus8...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 20:55:05 +0100, "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>news:luej06dn2df6r0fs7...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 18:06:26 +0100, "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Finally have some spare time to wipe out the wimp...
>>>
>>>I look forward to seeing that sir.
Apparently you have a masochist streak in you.
>> I've had more important things to do than wipe the floor with
>> someone who spends his days playing "dungeons and dragons,"
>> as you do, Sir shit-for-brains.
>
>I am keen to meet the fellow, sir. He must have been asleep, or drunk or
>both, sir.
So you admit to being asleep, or drunk or both.
>>>>>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:l2db06hcao304a4bg...@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Mon, 31 May 2010 14:56:34 +0100, "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>><snip>
>>
>>What's curious is how you managed to tune your tin hat antenna to pick
>>up voices from "something higher than ourselves." What frequency
>>is it where you hear those voices from "something higher than
>>ourselves"?
>>>" But you're no longer worth my time"
>>>
>>>Was perfectly clear, sir. You cannot take time back, you know.
>>
>> Your "something higher than ourselves" told you that??
>>
>>
>>>If I stay awake that long, sir.
>>
>>Having a normal span of attention is not one of your natural
>>abilities, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>>
>>>>>> Hey, you've been declaring yourself the winner, stating that you've
>>>>>> already "accepted <my> flag of surrender." How did you figure that
>>>>>> out other than declaring yourself the winner?
>>>>>
>>>>>I have not declared myself the winner, dear sir. I was asserting an
>>>>>obvious truth.
>>>>
>>>> That's declaring, shit-for-brains. Do try to learn more about the
>>>> English language. The synonyms for "asserting" are "proclaim,"
>>>> "declare," "announce," "state," "voice," "express," etc... etc...
>>>> etc...
>>Oh, dear, Sir shit-for-brains. You have never offered an argument
>>that does not either show you are ---
>>
>>1) acting like a craven coward
>>2) displaying the depressing burden of your exiguous education
>>3) showing your disgusting ignorance
>>4) planting some defamatory slander
>>5) insisting that voices are telling you things that are "unknown"
>>6) sowing your hebephrenic and insensate nature
>>7) expressing your acerbic insolence
>>8) inserting your nefarious antipathy toward humanity
>>9) raving in your lubricous xenophobic hubris
>>10) exhibiting a proclivity for disgraceful buffoonery
>>11) ranting in frenzied and fallacious demagoguery
>>12) revealing your malfeasant racism
>>13) parading a shameful and evil Holocaust denial
>>14) creating a catachrestic destruction of the English language
>>15) flaunting your grotesque and ludicrous catagenetic representation
>>of humans as no better than cockroaches
>>or --
>>16) offering your disingenuous and fraudulent lying
>>
>>etc...etc... etc...
>>>No sir. I was asserting the obvious truth.
>>
>>Are you brain-dead??? When you "assert," you are declaring! Even a
>>trained chimpanzee could understand that, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>
>I see you are still trying to avoid your own screwups, sir.
I see you are still trying to avoid admitting that a voice from
"something higher than ourselves," has been talking to you
personally.
>>>> I haven't yet lost any money betting on your ignorance, Sir
>>>> shit-for-brains.
>>>>
>>>
>>>That is because you didn't bet any, sir.
>>
>> Wrong, Sir shit-for-brains.
>
>Are the bailiffs banging on your door, sir? Hmm? Do they shout through your
>letter box of that all so very bright home of yours, sir? Are they
>threatening to take it away from you because you cannot pay your gambling
>debts, sir. You should give it up, sir. You are no good at it.
I'm racking in the money. But aren't those guys in the white coats
with the straight jackets banging on your door, Sir
shit-for-brains?
>>>"All people are "special," "
>>>
>>>You certainly are, sir.
>>
>> All people are "special," even you, you sick in the head racist.
>
>You certainly are, sir.
You're especially "special." As humans we need to pity those who are
mentally unstable, as you are.
>>>
>>>Are you bored with your own repetition, sir?
>>
>> You mean YOUR repetition, sport...
>
>No, sir. I mean, your repetion..
And yet you can't stop lying.
>>
>> You're insane...
>
>My, dear fellow. Pot, kettle, black.
So you admit you're insane. And insist I'm insane for recognizing
that you're insane. Finally... a breakthrough!!!
>>>
>>>Apparently not, sir. There is no dent in my head
>>
>> I'll bet you haven't checked carefully in your scalp... look for a
>> "666" mark.
>
>You are a Christian, sir.
>
No, Sir shit-for-brains... you have me mixed up with your
Bible-thumping self. After all... I don't claim to hear voices
from "something higher than ourselves," as you do.
>>>We should remind yourself why you think I'm Dutch sir
>>
>> Who's this "we," Sir shit-for-brains?
>>
>>>"
>>>Bet you're Dutch, with a dingleberry hanging from your ass because
>>>of your unhygienic paedomorphic habits. You're certainly
>>>not Italian... I am almost mother-tongue fluent in Italian having
>>>learned most of it before I was 14, and then taking it as my
>>>minor in college. You're not French... my wife is mother-tongue
>>>French, born and raised in Paris... so I can do very well in
>>>the French spoken language, and good enough in the written
>>>language. You're not German... I spent 20 years in Germany,
>>>and can keep up a fairly good conversation, because people
>>>tend to overlook grammatical mistakes in respect to "der" "die"
>>>"das" gender notation and case endings when speaking, although
>>>my written German could use a lot of work, for which I do not
>>>have time, and no longer have the drive I once had. I don't think
>>>you're Spanish or Portuguese. Nor from the former East bloc.
>>>And since you mention ...
>>>
>>>"
>>
>> Man, that was a real logical and convincing observation on my part, if
>> I do say so myself.
>
>You do, sir?
Do you also have a reading disability?? After all, you don't want to
wipe that dingleberry away... just think of all the germs you'd be
"murdering" (sic)... ROTFLMAO. I'll bet you're afraid to even sit,
in fear you might crush some of those germs.
>>>Cite:
>>>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>>>From: Planet Visitor II <hidden to protect privacy>
>>>Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 00:11:17 -0400
>>>Local: Thurs, May 27 2010 5:11 am
>>>Subject: Re: High court rules out life sentences for some juveniles
>>>
>>>"I am almost mother-tongue fluent in Italian having
>>>learned most of it before I was 14, and then taking it as my
>>>minor in college"
>>>
>>>This is your logic for thinking I'm not Italian, sir?
>>
>> Well, try me, if you are Italian. Prove it.
>
>">>"I am almost mother-tongue fluent in Italian having
>>>learned most of it before I was 14, and then taking it as my
>>>minor in college"
>"
>
>How exactly does your comment prove that I am not Italian, sir?
>
It proves TO ME that you are not Italian. That's
good enough for me. Are you now invoking one of your
fascist commands that I am forbidden to "think"???
>>>"You're not French... my wife is mother-tongue
>>>French, born and raised in Paris... "
>>>
>>>This is your logic for thinking I'm not French, sir?
>>
>> Well, try me, if you are French. Prove it.
>
>How exactly does your comment prove that I am not French, sir?
>
It proves TO ME that you are not French. That's
good enough for me. Are you now invoking one of your
fascist commands that I am forbidden to "think"???
>>>"You're not German... I spent 20 years in Germany,
>>>and can keep up a fairly good conversation, because people
>>>tend to overlook grammatical mistakes in respect to "der" "die"
>>>"das" gender notation and case endings when speaking, although
>>>my written German could use a lot of work, for which I do not
>>>have time, and no longer have the drive I once had"
>>>
>>>This is your logic for thinking I'm not German, sir?
>>
>> Well, try me, if you are German. Prove it.
>
>How exactly does your comment prove that I am not German, sir?
It proves TO ME that you are not German. That's
good enough for me. Are you now invoking one of your
fascist commands that I am forbidden to "think"???
>>>You neglected to post your reasoning for believing me Dutch, sir.
>>
>> Because I don't speak Dutch, and the Dutch offer quite a
>> bit of education in the English language.
>
>That is your reason for thinking me Dutch, sir? I can see you have not
>thought this through.
I think everything through, Sir shit-for-brains. I form my opinions
independent of arguments from the deranged... like you.
>>>As should you, sir.
>>
>> I "remember" quite a bit of events that happened before I was born,
>
>No you don't, sir. You was not there.
ROTFLMAO... You mean "were not there." And yet I "remember"
them. Are you now in your fascist method intending to tell me what
I can and cannot "remember"? The fact that I "was not there" is
irrelevant to whether it happened before or after I was born. I
can "remember" the Kennedy assassination, even though I "was
not there." "Being there" is irrelevant to what our minds are
capable of "remembering."
>>>>>I did not, sir.
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>>
>>>Denying something doesn't automatically make the denier a liar, sir.
>>>
>> It doesn't make the denier suddenly speak the truth when it is
>> obvious that he speaks a lie. That seems to be your implication.
>
>Denial proves or disproves nothing, sir.
You seem determined to deny.
>>>>
>>>> Yes you did, you little Holocaust denier.
>>>
>>>I did not, sir.
>>
>> Yes, you did, Sir shit-for-brains. And you're also a Holocaust
>> denier... claiming you hear voices.
>
>I did not, sir.
Sure you did. You related that "something higher than ourselves"
had TOLD you that there is "a right to life for all biological life."
Claiming that it is "murder" to kill any biological life... including
cockroaches... making each of us a murderer a million, billion times,
each time we wash our hands. No wonder they call you "the
unwashed." You're determined to "murder" (sic) as few of those
germs as possible. If that "something higher than ourselves" didn't
TELL you there is such a "right to life," how did you come into that
information? Was it pixies... or the Tooth Fairy... or the Easter
Bunny... or Santa Claus??? Or was it your "mommy" making
you say your prayers to that "something higher than ourselves"???
>>>>>> Are you now denying those were your words?
>>>>>
>>>>>No, sir.
>>>>
>>>> Then you admit you are a Holocaust denier. Don't think you are?
>>>> Well, let me ask you... do you "remember" that there was an
>>>> extermination of six million Jews in the 20th Century???
>>>
>>>"Then you admit you are a Holocaust denier"
>>>
>>>No sir.
>>
>> If you claim you don't "remember" it happening, that is a clear
>> indication that you "deny" it happening.
>>
>
>Your logic does not follow normal rational reasoning, sir.
>
To your deep annoyance, it follows perfect logical reasoning.
See --
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/remember
Since you are xenophobic toward the "the British."
REMEMBER -- "to be able to bring back a piece of information into your
mind, or to keep a piece of information in your memory"
Or --
"to be kept in people's memories because of a particular action or
quality"
Or --
"to hold a special ceremony to honour a past event or someone who has
died"
There is nothing that argues we cannot "remember" what we did not
"experience first hand." And we certainly didn't "have to be there"
to remember something happened.
But then you've already insisted in your fascist way, that if you
don't like a definition you just refuse to accept it. But in this
case you are also INVENTING your own definitions in the English
language in which you presume to demand that "remember"
is defined as "only having experienced first hand" what you can
"remember." How neat that is for the Nazis. Or the neo-Nazis
of today.
>>>> Yet you fondly "remember" the Greeks. You naughty boy, you.
>>>
>>>Only the ones I've met, sir.
>>
>> Heh... that must have been a night of debauchery.
>
>A night, sir? Nobody goes to Greece for just one night, sir.
>
Zoommm...... that one flew right over your pointy head.
>
>>Don't bother sharing the sordid details...
>
>I won't, sir.
>
Thank you.
>
>
>> this is a family oriented newsgroup.
>
>Since when, sir?
Zooommm...... so did that one.
>>>>>You claimed that you could, "hear" me, sir.
>>>>>Any fear that you experience is your own, sir. If you were to be able to
>>>>>feel my emotions sir, you would feel my amusement.
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>>
>>>There was no denial, sir. You responses are getting more random, dear
>>>fellow.
>>
>> Need I point out again --
>
>Not if it is your usual gibberish, sir.
>
The truth has never been something that you want to see, Sir
shit-for-brains. You believe you can "invent" your own truth.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Shall we wait for you temper tantrum to calm down, sir?
>>
>> Heh... as the Dalai Lama noted -- "If a human being never
>> shows anger, then I think something's wrong. He's not
right in the brains" See --
>>http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1993865,00.html
>
>Are you planning to re-interpret his word too, sir?
Are you still unable to follow a link, you little liar?? Didn't I
give you a link to his words? Just as I do with your words
that indict you as an admitted "murderer" (sic). (I saw you wash
your hands... you brutal killer, you. What about that "Right to life"
for those "poor innocent creatures... the germs"?) Have you
thought about turning yourself in to the authorities and claiming
"self-defense"??? ROTFLMAO.
>>>"I never, ever lie. "
>>>
>>>Anothr lie, sir.
>>
>> Really, you admit you lied???
>
>Yes, sir.
Well then why don't you stop lying?
>"little boy, "
>
>You're guessing again, sir.
>
And yet there is no evidence that you are not a "little boy, with
an equally little brain."
Is it also your fascist demand that I "stop guessing"??? Any
other orders for me, Gruppenführer Disco???
>>>>>"While opinions are like ass holes... everyone has one"
>>>>>
>>>>>They do sir? So you have only the one opinion. Curious
>>>>
>>>> "Opinions." "ass holes." The "s" in English means plural. I don't
>>>> know what it means in your mother-tongue which is apparently Tigrinya.
>>>
>>>" "Opinions." "ass holes." The "s" in English means plural"
>>>
>>>"While opinions are like ass holes... everyone has 'one'"
>>>
>>>The "one" implies singular, sir.
>>
>> "Opinions".... plural. "one".... used as a pronoun... for example ...
>> the simple English constructed sentence -- "she visited ONE of her
>> cousins." Notice that she does not have only ONE cousin. Thus
>> a person does not have only ONE opinion.
>>
>> Chee... but you are uneducated.
>
>You're guessing again, sir.
Well, you obviously are not educated in the English language in
respect to the use of plurals.
>>>
>>>"Heh... I believe you actually looked at a dictionary"
>>>
>>>When one is learning a language, it is useful to browse a dictionary of
>>>that language sir. It is a practice that I reccomend you try.
>>
>> Too bad you slept through most of that education. But I think you're sweating
>> about now... because I picked the right nation.
>
>Your refusal to educate yourself has been noted, sir.
TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
I wasn't what he found me to be so I could show he is not correct,
but the bastard hit the nail right on the head."
>>>"Don't blame me for your illiteracy"
>>>Numeracy, my dear fellow; not literacy.
>>
>> The terms are not mutually exclusive, Sir shit-for-brains.
>
>So you do not understand the expression, "mutually exclusive", either.
You stupid, stupid child. The term "mutually exclusive" means
that both events cannot occur at the same time. The two events
in question in this argument are --
1) Your illiteracy.
2) Your inability to understand numeracy.
I said that they are NOT "mutually exclusive," you implied that they
ARE "mutually exclusive." "Mutually exclusive" is a term that I am
quite familiar with, since logic circuits often use it. Such circuits
are called XOR gates. See --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XOR_gate
You can see the logic symbol for an XOR gate, or go down
further and see how an XOR output is constructed of some
AND gates or some OR gates. Looking at the input/output
truth table you'll see that there is an output ONLY when
either A or B are active, and no output when A and B
are both inactive, or both active.
Educate yourself.
>>>
>>>There was no denial sir. Your confusion is increasing.
>>
>> Don't you ever get tired of repeating the same mindless drivel?
>
>Do you, sir?
Given that I only repeat your "mindless drivel" why would I
get tired of it?
>
>>>""No sir. You were the one whom (sic) "fucked
>>>> up" lightspeed, sir."
>>>
>>>You did, sir. you claimed it was 300,000,000 M/s.
>>
>> No, Sir shit-for-brains... I said "presuming the velocity of light is
>> exactly 300,000,000 meters/per second."
>
>But it isn't, sir.
So what? The velocity of light is only a constant in a vacuum.
Scientists have slowed down light to a crawl when going through
various mediums. The question did not ask for the "speed
of light in a vacuum." It asked to PRESUME the velocity of light
is exactly 300,000,000 meters/ per second. Apparently you admit
you can't follow directions.
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/15-11/st_alphageek
>> The question was posed to not use a calculator or references.. because
>> the reference was given and the arithmetic could be done in the
>> head (not your head, of course, but the head of someone with at
>> least a room temperature IQ). I told you that the problem could be
>> solved in 30 seconds in the head... with nothing else... and I showed
>> how it could be. Unless you have a problem figuring out in your head
>> what the answer to 3000 divided by 8 is. 3/8 is 0.375... ching...
>> ching... ching... and there's the answer 375... bip.. bip... bip.
>> Kids these days... all of them need a calculator and can't read
>> questions accurately.
>>
>
>"The question was posed to not use a calculator or references"
>
>That is not your decision, sir.
>
Rubbish... every question is based upon certain parameters, including
what can be used in solving the question.
>> Good grief... it's so difficult for me to deal with the juvenile
>> uneducated.
>>
>
>Looking the in mirror must be a real problem for you then, sir.
Too bad you have such terrible problems in the English language.
"Looking the in mirror"??? What is that supposed to mean?
>> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
>> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
>> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>
>"Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole?"
>
>To respond to them, sir.
You don't need to repeat them to respond to them, Sir shit-for-brains.
Respond to them as you read them.
>>>That you didn't spot my quarter wave mistake or pinpoint where my first
>>>mistake was wrong? Yes sir. That is very strange.
>>
>> I'm very forgiving of your basic ignorance.
>
>I am less forgiving of yours.
That's because there is nothing to forgive.
>>
>>>>>I have built one in a while. What
>>>>>about you, sir? When did you last build one?
>>>>
>>>> LOL..." I have built one in a while," too. You ignorant child. Are
>>>> you also this stupid in your mother tongue? Don't lie now.
>>>
>>>I shall take that as a "Never". shall I ,sir.
>>
>> Since the word "never" does not appear in my comment,
>
>You avoided the question, sir.
>
You presumed to create a word that is not within my comment.
Further, I was making a mockery of your comment by mimicking
your exact words which made no sense whatsoever. Those words
of yours were "I have built one in a while." What the hell is
that supposed to mean?
>>>>
>>>
>>>"I'm not the authority. I'm the messenger"
>>>
>>>You are neither, sir.
>>
>> But you implied I was the "authority" behind my argument, when it's
>> obvious that the AUTHORITY is "Bureau International des Poids et
>> Mesures. The International System of Units - le Système international
>> d'unités." That is... a lesser authority to those voices you hear
>> from "something higher than ourselves." He he he he he. You
>> psychotic fruitcake. Tell me again how you know more than the
>> Bureau International des Poids et Mesures. The International System
>> of Units - le Système international d'unités.
>>
>
>"But you implied "
>
>No I didn't, sir.
>
Right... you stated an outright distortion of the facts. I never
claimed to be the "authority" behind my argument, while you
lied and claimed that I have no "right" to quote an "authority"
to justify my argument. In other words, you're not interested
in the truth... you just believe yourself to be more qualified
than the " "Bureau International des Poids et Mesures. The
International System of Units - le Système international
d'unités." But given that you also claim you are the "authority"
behind an Easter Bunny claim that there is "a right to life for
all biological life... including cockroaches and other vermin,
bacteria and viruses," it's clear just how delusional your
belief in your own "authority" actually is.
>
>>>You have read them all in this small time, sir?
>>
>> I'm a fast reader.
>
>You would have to be the fastest reader on the planet, sir.
I've had a lot of time.
>> Can't do it, can you???
>
>
>Can't do what, sir?
>
Handle the truth.
>
>>Yet I've provided cite after cite showing
>> Hz being the recognized standard for "cycles per second."
>>
>
>
>If you had read your books sir, you would see that cs and c/s are also used.
Guess what? -- An assertion lacking a referenced cite is
inadmissible.
>> You're one hard-headed piece of work, Sir shit-for-brains.
>
>Thank you, sir.
You're welcome... always glad to help the retarded deal with their
problem.
>>>>>You haven't answered the problem I gave you, yet.
>>>>
>>>> Nor have you. I could give you a multitude of problems that you
>>>> could not even attempt to solve, sport.
>>>>
>>>
>> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>>>
>>>Yes I have, sir. I am still waiting for your solution if you can offer
>>>one.
>>
>> No, problem.... See -
>> http://www.bipm.org/en/si/si_brochure/chapter5/5-2.html
>
>That does not answer the question, sir. You have avoided it yet again.
>
Now that you admit you are mistaken about C/S, Cs, or whatever the
fuck you want to call it to avoid recognizing it as Hz, I have already
answered all your questions in my previous post.
>>
>>>"I've looked in all my books"
>>>
>>>Then you should find the answer in them, sir.
>>
>> I did find the answer in a very concise reference in my library titled
>> the "Standard Handbook for Electrical Engineers." About 2000 pages
>> deep, edited by Donald G Fink (look him up), published by McGraw Hill,
>> with ISBN 0-07-020973-1.
>
>" About 2000 pages deep"
>
>2304 to be exact, sir.
You counted THEM??? Mine doesn't have the pages numbered. It
just has the sections numbered. You spent all your time COUNTING
the pages??? Don't you have anything better to do?
>>Go to your library and ask them for it.
>> Then go to page 1-9... Systems of Measurement. And you will see
>> that Frequency is measured in Hz.
>
>Are those the only pages you looked at in the entire book, sir?
It is the page that references the STANDARD System of measurements,
Sir shit-for-brains. And nowhere in that book does the term C/S, or
Cs appear.
>> And yet I can find no reference to "Cs is the standard for cycles per
>> second." In fact every reference states that "Hz is the standard
>> for cycles per second."
>
>If that book is any good then it should contain the formulas to answer those
>little problems I gave you. Maybe you should try buying a copy and reading
>it, sir.
Your problems have already been answered. Now when can I expect you
to answer even ONE of the eight new problems I've posed to you???
<fx: sweat begins to form on Death Disco's forehead, as his cheeks
turn a ruddy red, realizing he can't solve even one of them,
regardless of what source he can find that might give him an answer>
>Hz is an abbreviation of a mathematical expression, sir; as are Kilo, Mega,
>Omega etc, etc.
Hz is an abbreviation for the Name "Heinrich Hertz," a contributor to
science... see --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Hertz
As such the term for "cycles per second" is Hz... not Hertz. While
you may find someone posts something like 1050 Hertz.. it is not
correct. In that respect Hz is NOT an abbreviation... but is the
standard representation for "cycles per second."
>C/s are the mathematical expression itself sir and not a
>standard abbreviation.
ROTFLMAO. Wrong again... Sir shit-for-brains. C/S is the
abbreviation
for "C/S Construction Specialties," and "C & S Wholesale Grocers," and
"C & S Oyster Bar," and other companies. It is not the recognized
electronic industry representation of "cycles per second."
> Hertz is an abbreviation, sir. We are not answerable
>to you regarding our choice of terms sir. Of course, should you feel the
>desire you are welcome to call your legal representative and have him sue my
>colleagues and I, sir.
You don't have an "colleagues," Sir shit-for-brains. What you have
are a few fellow dweebs who all collectively sit around with your
fingers up your ass.
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> R = 3.183 x 10^4 Ohms = 31.83 K Ohms
>>>>>>
>>>>>> c = 10^-9 Farads
>>>>>>
>>>>>> f = 500 Hz
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thus -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Xc = 1/(2 x [pi] x f x c) = 1/(2 x 2.14 x 500 x 10^-9 Ohms)
>>>>>
>>>>>Xc=1/w(omega)c sir but it equates to the same thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thus reducing --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Xc= 3.183 x 10^5 ohms = 318.3 K Ohms
>>>>>>
>>>>>318.310K to be more accurate, sir but you are doing very well
>>>>
>>>> Heh... you idiot. That is only LESS accurate. Your original data
>>>> gave R = 3.183... you cannot invent that 318310, as presumable
>>>> "more accurate" than your original number. Your entire problem
>>>> is limited to 3.183, which is four significant digits. Offering
>>>> a claim that "318.31..." is "more accurate" is a crock of shit,
>>>> since it implies five digits of accuracy.
>>>
>>>Temper, temper. If you cannot handle the problem you should ask for help.
>>
>> I'm not the type who finds humor in your ignorance.
>
>You're the one whom failed the problem sir.
Already answered... Sir shit-for-brains.
>>
>>> PI has more than 5 digits of accuracy, sir.
>>
>> When I state 3.14159...
>
>You have over snipped, sir. You appear to be as ignorant on snipping, as you
>are everything else.
I used six digits of accuracy, Sir shit-for-brains. Can't you count?
>
>> Pi, my young student, is no more a constant than a man is a cockroach.
>> pi is only as accurate as your calculator, thus it is not incorrect to
>> show pi as an approximation because that's what it is, no matter how
>> long one writes integers. Nor can one write pi as a quotient of two
>> integers, in exact terms. While your use of 318.310 implies a
>> constant "more accurate" than your original constant, Sir
>> shit-for-brains.
>>
>
>"Pi, my young student, is no more a constant than a man is a cockroach.
>> pi is only as accurate as your calculator"
>
>Nonsense, sir. Pi goes on for as long as there can be new digits calculated.
>and alot of people do not need a calculator to calculate it as you would.
>They spend a finate amount of time on it.
Pi is NOT a constant in any sense of having an absolute value. When
will you ever recognize the difference between rational and irrational
numbers? Pi is only as accurate as the number of digits used, and
it tells you nothing of what the next digit will be.
>"I can't believe you don't know the difference between a rational
> and an irrational number."
>
>You are guessing again, sir.
And yet you continue to show that you don't know the difference.
>>>> And you claim an ability to compute numbers, yet screw up
>>>> the most basic of all mathematical principles... that values
>>>> cannot be obtained having greater significance than the
>>>> significant digits within the mathematical computation.
>>>> Whenever you make a measurement, that measurement
>>>> is only as precise as the original significant digits being
>>>> computed.
>>>>
>>>
>>>" And you claim an ability to compute numbers"
>>>
>>>I made no such claim, sir.
>>
>> That's sad... you now admit you have no ability to compute numbers.
>> Glad we agree with that.
>
>I made no such claim, sir. Lack of a positive does not assert a negative,
>sir.
You admitted elsewhere that you were not "illiterate" (although you
are), but that you suffer from "innumeracy."
>>>> Chee... that's stuff you learn in the 7th grade, or earlier.
>>>
>>>Is that the last time you had any education, sir?
>>
>> We've already been through this, Sir shit-for-brains... See --
>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Maryland.jpg
>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Boston.jpg
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/Transcript.jpg
>>
>
>A lot has changed in 22 years, sir. Of course, it is very easy to fake such
>documents and you appear to have no qualifications relating to electrical
>engineering, sir.
>
And yet I've solved all the problems you presented to me... including
the laughable one where you stated the circuit was resonant, and gave
me XL, and asked me to compute XC, as if there is anything to even
compute given that at resonance XL = XC.
>> See why I accuse you of slander and lies???
>
>You accuse me of a lot of things, sir without knowing anything about me or
>being able to back up your accusations. Of course, I find the irony as
>funnier as that I find that you confuse slander with libel, sir.
Hey... good for you, it seems you looked up the definition. I
always get those two mixed up... especially when someone like
you appear on paper to be screaming out his lies and hate.
>For an "educated" man sir, you truly are stupid.
And yet... there are those eight problems that you have not dared
to even touch.
>> Now where are your educational credentials?
>
>In the bottom draw of the desk in my workshop, sir, where they shall stay. I
>am under no obligation to show them to you, sir.
>
TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. He called
my bluff knowing I'm just a big baby spewing out a lot of hot air,
while having little in the way of any education. I wish I wasn't as
shit-for-brains as he has found me to be so I could show he is not
correct, but the bastard hit the nail right on the head. AGAIN!!"
>>
>>>>>> and --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cutoff frequency = 1/(2 x [pi] x R x c) = 1/(2 x 2.14 x 3.183 x 10^4
>>>>>> x 10^-9) Hz
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thus reducing --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cutoff frequency = 5 x 10^3 Hz = 5 KHz
>>>>>>
>>>>>> at cutoff frequency Xc = R = 3.183 x10^4 ohms = 31.83 K Ohms
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cutoff frequency = -3 db
>>>>>
>>>>>The question did not ask for the cutoff frequency or the db loss at cut
>>>>>of
>>>>>frequency. it Asked for the db loss and phase angled at 500 Cs, sir.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, gee... I must have not RTFQ. I like to solve practical
>>>> problems, and knowing the cutoff frequency is more important
>>>> than the parameters you asked about.
>>>>
>>>
>>>"I must have not RTFQ"
>>>
>>>Indeed, sir.
>>
>> TRANSLATION "Indeed, sir.."
>>
>> I haven't seen you take a stab at any of my questions 2 or 3, Sir
>> shit-for-brains.
>
>That's right sir and there are still three questions you have not answered.
All answered... Sir shit-for-brains. Your turn now.
>>>
>>>You still have not answered your problem, sir.
>>
>> No.
>
>Because you can't, sir.
Wrong... all answered, Sir shit-for-brains. Your turn now.
>>>
>>>"Not only can you not solve it"
>>>
>>>A guess, sir.
>>
>> That's something you haven't even tried in respect to my problems
>> I asked you to solve. While you can't even formulate your problems
>> understandably.
>>
>
>"That's something you haven't even tried in respect to my problems"
>
>That is true, sir. But your problems go deeper that a few numbers, sir.
Not at all... they all have an answer in numbers. But you have to
know how to arrive at those numbers. And that is what is beyond
your meager knowledge of electronics or the mathematics that
is necessary to arrive at answers in electronics circuits. Even the
most basic of data in respect to electronics is based upon
mathematics. Such as I = V/R.
>>>>>Nonsense, sir. Ohms law applies electricity, whether it is DC or AC is
>>>>>irrelevent. As AC is contantly in flux then that has to be taken into
>>>>>account so impedence and phase angle are calculated.
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>>
>>>There was no denial sir. There was only your apology of a response.
>>
>> It doesn't make the denier suddenly speak the truth when it is
>> obvious that he speaks a lie.
>>
>> So your apology is accepted.
>
>No apology was offered, sir.
Sure there was. You're trying to make excuses for your lies. And
in doing so admit you've lied... and thus apologize for having lied.
> You're comments in respect to AC and ohms law
>were wrong but you don't have the backbone to admit it, sir.
No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>>>You have never proved any, sir.
>>
>> I've proved that your comments always show you are --
>>
>>1) acting like a craven coward
>>2) displaying the depressing burden of your exiguous education
>>3) showing your disgusting ignorance
>>4) planting some defamatory slander
>>5) insisting that voices are telling you things that are "unknown"
>>6) sowing your hebephrenic and insensate nature
>>7) expressing your acerbic insolence
>>8) inserting your nefarious antipathy toward humanity
>>9) raving in your lubricous xenophobic hubris
>>10) exhibiting a proclivity for disgraceful buffoonery
>>11) ranting in frenzied and fallacious demagoguery
>>12) revealing your malfaisant racism
>>13) parading a shameful and evil Holocaust denial
>>14) creating a catachrestic destruction of the English language
>>15) flaunting your grotesque and ludicrous catagenetic representation
>>of humans as no better than cockroaches
>>or --
>>16) offering your disingenuous and fraudulent lying
>>etc... etc... etc...
>>
>>Look at all the new words in English you can look up.
>
>No you haven't, sir.
No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>>>
>>>You are an idiot, sir. What do you suppose you use to calculate the
>>>current
>>>through an ac circuit of the voltage across its capacitors or inductors?
>>
>> Kirchoff's law. Not Ohm's law.
>
>Ohm's Law, you imbecile: E=I/Z is Ohm's law, not Kirchoff's! Do your
>research, sir.
E=I/R is Ohm's law, Sir shit-for-brains. See --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohm's_law
Rather there in bold letters -- I = V/R. But now I've got you using
"E."
>>
>>>The Black arts? To calculate current, The formula is I=E/Z and to
>>>calculate
>>>the voltage across an inductor or capacitor the formula is Vl=I*XL and Vc
>>>=
>>>I*XC respectively.
>>
>> I = E/R is Ohm's law.
>
>At last, the penny drops, sir.
Since R is not V except in a DC circuit, Ohm's law applies to DC
circuits and not to resistances that are Z which is impedance,
and appears only in AC circuits.
>> Despite your ignorance of basic electronics, R
>> is not = Z, or = C, or = L. All of which change instantaneously in an
>> AC circuit, while R is a constant, and I and E can be computed using
>> simple arithmetic, and instantaneous AC cannot be computed using
>> simple arithmetic.
>>
>
>You moron, sir. Z=impedence,
Correct... Z is not = R.
> E IS EMF and I is current. Get an education, sir.
I'm still old school, and we always referred to voltage as E. I admit
that is a mistake. It results from an old four word rhyme to
remember how inductive and capacitive impedance work. The
rhyme was ELI THE ICE MAN. And in that rhyme one can then
devise that "voltage (E) leads current (I) (ELI) in inductive
impedance, while current (I) leads voltage (E) (ICE) in capacitive
impedance."
Of course Voltage now has the standard of V as its representation,
just as "cycles per second" has the standard of Hz as its
representation. But there is still evidence of E being used
to represent Voltage. On circuit schematics, E is shown as the
voltage across batteries, or generators, (the voltage out of those
devices), while V is shown across all other devices such as resistors,
etc.
You see how easy it is to admit mistakes? Now if we could only
get you to recognize even 1 out of every 100 mistakes you make.
But then you wouldn't be "hard-headed," would you???
>>>"AC circuits are much more complicated than DC circuits"
>>>
>>>That is something else, we agree on, sir.
>>>
>>>"You couldn't solve even the easiest of differential equations."
>>>
>>>You are guessing, sir.
>>
>> I've already given you the easiest of differential equations.
>
>No, sir. The easiest of differential equations include Y=X, Y=1 or Y=X^2
>sir.
>They are examples of the "easiest", sir.
Rubbish. Now of those presumed identities are part of any
differential equation.
>
>"You have no idea how to even approach a solution. "
>
>You are guessing again, sir.
And yet I've already given you the easiest of differential equations.
>
>>
>>>> Kirchoff's law examines "nodes." Because the sum of the current
>>>> flowing into any node must equal the sum of the current flowing out of
>>>> any node. Both in steady DC and in instantaneous AC current, which
>>>> changes depending upon the frequency and other factors, but always
>>>> remains instantaneously the sum of the current flowing into that node
>>>> equaling the sum of the current flowing out of that node.
>>>
>>>You should reference a text you copy information from or it's plagiarism,
>>>sir.
>>
>> ROTFLMAO. This is common knowledge within all textbooks that
>> examine Kirchoff's law.
>
>There's more to it than that, sir. of course, your feeble attempt at mockery
>does not diprove you copied that cite without referencing, sir.
>
>
>"> It is not plagiarism to relate a scientific fact."
>
>It is if you cite one without refrencing it, sir.
Wrong!!! I can't even begin to relate how many scientific papers
are written using Newton's laws without the mention of Newton!
>> The only thing you can argue are that my FACTS are wrong... and you
>> know you can't do that.
>
>They aren't your facts, sir.
When I show them to you as proof of my arguments they represent
my facts proving my arguments. While all I have from you is
mumbles, whining, sobbing hysterically while curled up in the
fetal position, lies, hate, ignorance and mindless drivel.
>
>>>>>
>>>>>Very longwinded, sir. The correct formula is radians = degrees*pi/180
>>>>>Of course you would have spotted that a complete circle is 2pi.
>>>>
>>>> That's exactly what I wrote, shit-for-brains. Other than I use
>>>> 2.14159... an approximation for pi. Here it is again --
>>>
>>>No, sir you wrote.
>>
>> And what I wrote was as accurate as yours since pi is an irrational
>> number, and cannot be expressed as a constant.. obviously. While
>> we don't concern ourselves with degrees that have more than 6
>> digits of accuracy. In fact, degrees in general only have at most
>> three digits of accuracy, at which point further accuracy is usually
>> stated in minutes, and seconds. Each degree being split up into 60
>> minutes, and each minute being split up into 60 seconds.
>
>"And what I wrote was as accurate as yours since pi is an irrational
>> number"
>
>You cannot state that Pi suddently starts with 2 any more than you can
>declare the last three digits, sir.
Aw... Death Disco caught me in a typo... Good grief... if I had a
nickel for every typo from him it would be like winning the
lottery.
>>>> rad = degrees x (2.14159... /180)
>>>>
>>>> See it right above the list of various radians at degrees?
>>>
>>>the formula for converting degrees to radians is Radians=degrees*pi/180,
>>>sir. That is not what you wrote.
>>
>> See the three dots following 2.14159...? That means in standard
>> mathematics that this is an approximation. And it is a completely
>> accurate approximation. We're not sending a rocket to Mars, Sir
>> shit-for-brains. And you cannot possibly argue that pi is a
>> constant. While I clearly showed the various important degrees
>> in pi.
>>
>
>
>Pi starts with a 3, sir.
Awww.... death disco caught me in a typo.
>>>"I've been retired longer than you've been living."
>>>
>>>You're guessing, sir.
>>
>> And yet you've offered nothing that would refute my guess.
>
>You've offered nothing to back your guess up, sir.
>
Well, I retired on 23 April 1993. I doubt seriously you are over
the age of 17. But I'm sure that you'll put on your fascist
uniform and insist I am not _allowed to think_, Herr
Sturmbannführer Disco.
>> But
>> even the thought that you are older than me, and have yet learned
>> so little of life, sends shivers up my spine.
>
>I have already stated that I am younger than you, sir.
>Your words were: "I've been retired longer than you've been living."
>How old were you when you retired sir?
>
How old are you??? Since you never answer my questions,
why do you think I should answer yours until you answer even
one of mine?
>>
>>>> [1] see bottom of post.
>>>>>
>>>>>It was feeble sir. You got as far as working out the capacitive
>>>>>reactance.
>>>>>then you went off at a tangent.
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>>
>>>There was no denial, sir. You mucked it up.
>>
>> It doesn't make the denier suddenly speak the truth when it is
>> obvious that he speaks a lie. That seems to be your implication.
>>
>
>You mucked it up, sir.
TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
I wasn't what he found me to be so I could show he is not correct,
but the bastard hit the nail right on the head."
>>>
>>>" knowledgeable when you're not"
>>>
>>>You're guessing, sir.
>>
>> And yet you've offered nothing that would disprove my comment.
>
>You've offered nothing to back your guess up, sir.
Heh... Am I supposed to give you a fascist salute in responding to
your "order" that I am not _allowed to think_, Herr Sturmbannführer
Disco? You fit perfectly in that fascist outfit.
>>>" All in all you screwed it up pretty badly. "
>>>
>>>It that is what you call screwing up pretty badly then you need a life
>>>sir.
>>>Typographical errors are only a bad screwing when you are writing a paper
>>>on English language sir.
>>
>> "Education is the best provision for the journey to old age." --
>> Aristotle.
>
>Who mentioned education, sir? We were talking of typographical errors, sir.
>
A "typo" is the exchange on ONE LETTER of the alphabet for ANOTHER
when typing. Changing words, or changing meaning, or grammatical
mistakes, are NOT considered typos, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>>On newsgroups it's minor at worst and only used as
>>>ammunition for imbeciles like you whom can't win their arguments any other
>>>way. I am still waiting for your answer to the very SIMPLE problem I gave
>>>you.
>>
>> Heh... More ad hominem to cover up your lack of a proper
>> education. See --
>> http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/logic.html#hominem
>
>Your avoidence of the problem is noted, sir. You are too great a coward to
>admit that you cannot do it, sir.
>
And yet you have the answers to your simplistic and ill-conceived and
badly distorted questions, while I still wait for even one answer from
you.
>>>
>>>> "We're examining YOUR expertise, since you're the one blowing your
>>>> horn about --
>>>>
>>>> "I'll bet you don't know what bayes theorum, linear regression mean,
>>>> and I suspect you do not know the magic number in the plume encryption
>>>> algorythm."
>>>>
>>>> See the quotation marks, shit-for-brains?? What makes you think I'd
>>>> be as dumb as you and not know how to spell "theorem," and
>>>> "algorithm"?
>>>>
>>>> There has seldom been a poster to AADP who is more in need of a spell
>>>> checker than you, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>>>
>>>
>>>As I said, sir, "Typographical errors are only a bad screwing when you are
>>>writing a paper on English language sir. On newsgroups it's minor at worst
>>>and only used as ammunition for imbeciles like you whom can't win their
>>>arguments any other way".
>>
>> "Education is the best provision for the journey to old age." --
>> Aristotle.
>
>Who mentioned education, sir? We were talking of typographical errors, sir.
>
A "typo" is the exchange on ONE LETTER of the alphabet for ANOTHER
when typing. Changing words, or changing meaning, or grammatical
mistakes, are NOT considered typos, Sir shit-for-brains.
>
>>>Perhaps you should invest in a Thesaurus, sir.
>>
>
>" I already have more of them then I need "
>
>Well try using them from time to time, sir.
>
Generally I don't need one, since I know quite a few different words
that mean about the same thing, but have a slightly different shading.
But it is enough to mention that you have offered Holocaust
denial to put you in your place.
>>>>
>>>> Heh... the penny drops... And Death Disco is speechless.
>>>
>>>Wishful thinking on your part, sir.
>>
>> And yet that's all you have to say.
>.
>Which is not "speechless", sir. You screwed it up again, sir.
"Mindless drivel" is nothing but demonstrating you are "speechless."
>>>> No you didn't.
>>>
>>>Yes I did, sir.
>>
>> No you didn't, Sir shit-a-lot.
>
>Yes I did, sir.
NO you didn't, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>>>>> If that question was too complicated for you I'll give you an easier
>>>>>> one. Since you seem to claim familiarity with differential
>>>>>> equations... solve this one. Understand that this is the EASIEST
>>>>>> of all differential equation to solve, and is used over and over in
>>>>>> solving motion equations related to gravitation -- This one should
>>>>>> be a snap for you --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Solve the differential equation d²x/dt² = -g
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With initial conditions x(0) = x(sub o) and v(0) = v(sub o)
>>>>
>>>> Heh.. got you going, eh? Gee... my boy... this solution is probably
>>>> all over the net. It's a very general differential equation with no
>>>> numbers involved... those numbers which always confuse you.
>>>>
>>>
>>>"Heh.. got you going, eh?"
>>>Wishful thinking on your part, sir.
>>
>> Heh heh... and yet not even an attempt. My goodness, DD... it's
>> the SIMPLEST differential equation I know of.
>
>It is sir. Then I suggest you learn differential calculus, sir.
>
"Differential calculus" is a broad subject, sport. You consider it
nothing but finding a derivative... called "differentiation." It is
hardly difficult knowing only the Cartesian coordinate system to
determine the slope of a line at a point using the tangent to
that point that is determined by approaching that point as
close as the infinitesimal limit.
That minor part of the basics of "the Differential Calculus,"
does not touch upon solving "differential equations." Differential
equations relate functions of more than one variable to their
partial derivatives. I doubt you even can comprehend such a
concept, or how to approach solving a partial differential
equation.
>>
>>>You still have not answered your problem, sir. I have noted your repeated
>>>efforts to avoid it.
>>
>> I don't have time for your bullshit,
>
>Your lack of backbone to admit that it is beyond you has been noted, sir.
>
And yet I found the time. Now when will we see anything but
jelly for your backbone???
>>>> You can't even pose your questions accurately. But let's take a quick
>>>> stab at it --
>>>
>>>"You can't even pose your questions accurately"
>>>Yes I can, sir. We shall see what your answer brings.
>>
>> "You just admitted you can't."
>
>No I didn't, sir.
>
>You said integration... I ignored it
>
>I noticed that, sir, but did you know I was meaning to type "differentiate",
>sir?
That's NOT a "typo," Sir shit-for-brains.
>
>> because it made no sense... you realized it made no sense... you
>> admitted you didn't pose your question accurately. Chee... what
>> else do you want when I have your CONFESSION???
>
>That was after the above comment, sir. Please pay attention.
And yet we already have your CONFESSION.
>>>> V=pi*R²*H = 1050 cm³
>>>>
>>>> with R being the radius and H being the height
>>>>
>>>> so H = 1050/(pi)*R²
>>>>
>>>> The surface area, including ends is --
>>>>
>>>> S=2*(pi)R*H + 2*(pi)*R²
>>>>
>>>> Substituting for H --
>>>>
>>>> S=2*1050/R + 2*(pi)*R²
>>>>
>>>> Setting dS/dR = 0 and solving the differential equation for R the
>>>> answer is (V/2*(pi))^1/3 = R
>>>>
>>>> Reducing --> R=(1050/2*(pi))^1/3 = 5.508 cm
>>>>
>>>> Now that we have R, we can solve for H
>>>>
>>>> H=1050/(pi*)*R² = 11.017 cm
>>>>
>>>> Thus the closed cylinder has maximum surface area using minimum
>>>> material at :
>>>>
>>>> Radius = 5.508 cm
>>>> Height = 11.017 cm
>>>>
>>>> V = (pi)*5.508²*11.017 = 1050 cm³
>>>>
>>>
>>>Impressive, sir. Your answer is correct.
>>
>> No, shit... Dick Tracy...
>
>You do not handle praise very well, sir. I suppose that's because you never
>get any.
>
Praise from Holocaust deniers like you means nothing to me. Now
answer my questions... or just one of them.
>>now when can we expect you to answer either
>> of my questions, after fucking up the answer
>
>Language, sir. I did sir. Nevertheless, I corrected. It is fortunate I was
>not submitting it to anyone whose opinion matters. However, I am still
>waiting to see you answer the simple problem I set for you. What was the
>expression you used? "Overly complicated"
Overly stupid... is the correct term.
>>to a very, very, trivial
>> question regarding resonance.
>
>As is this one, sir
>
>Given you have a low pass filter with a resistor of 31830 ohms, and a
>capacitor of 1 Nano Farad. at frequency of 500 Cs what is the DB loss and
>the phase angle? You will have to work out the reactance first, sir.
Already answered. Sir shit-for-brains. Now it's your turn.
>"> So when you claimed that my approximation of pi was incorrect you
>"> were full of shit.
>
>Is that your proof, sir?
>
Your question has been answered, Sir shit-for-brains. Quit squirming,
and answer one of my questions.
>
>>In this problem, I did use a calculator, rather
>> than pen and paper ... and entered pi symbolically, which provided an
>> approximation dependent upon the range of the calculator I used. There
>> is no such thing as an exact value of pi. They are ALL
>> approximations. Thus my response was exactly as yours... an
>> approximation! pi is an approximation.
>
>Everyone starts Pi with a three, sir... well except for you that is.
Heh... "typo." That's the way a "typo" is defined. When I have
used 3.14159... over and over, and then I type 2.14159..., that's
a typo. When you substitute "integration" for "differentiate,"
that's NOT a typo.
>>> I shall assume it's your own work.
>>
>> You can assume anything you wish, Sir shit-for-brains. It's a free
>> country. You also assume that "something higher than ourselves,"
>> talks to you. Now how about that easy problem with differential
>> equations...
>
>Would you rather I assumed that you copied it from a book, sir?
It's a free country, Sir shit-for-brains... only a fascist would try
to tell you what to assume... you know.... like your fascist demands
that I only assume what YOU want to assume.
>> Solve the differential equation d²x/dt² = -g
>>
>> With initial conditions x(0) = x(sub o) and v(0) = v(sub o)
>>
>> Solve it??? I don't even think you know how to even formulate it
>> correctly! Let's see... first you need to integrate once with
>> respect to "t." How does such a formula LOOK... much less ask you to
>> to solve it. v(t) = ???? Come on, Sir shit-for-brains. You're so
>> smart... what does the right side of that equation even LOOK LIKE???
>> This is high school math. Show me what you got... so you can
>> raise those knuckles that drag on the ground, and start thumping
>> your chest in mindless hubris. --
>>
>> v(t) = ???
>
>You haven't solved this one, yet:
>Given you have a low pass filter with a resistor of 31830 ohms, and a
>capacitor of 1 Nano Farad. at frequency of 500 Cs what is the DB loss and
>the phase angle? You will have to work out the reactance first, sir.
Already solved, Sir shit-for-brains. We're now waiting for you to
solve the above problem. BTW -- You can get any help your little
heart desires... just as long as see your answer.
>> If you can't solve that one... I have nothing to prove. While
>> even if you solve it, it is so simple that I would not even give
>> you credit for solving it. There must be at least 10,000 sites
>> on the Internet giving the proper notation to that next step.
>> You don't answer it, we have determined the level of your
>> education and intellect... and found it sorely lacking.
>>
>
>
>Wrong, sir. You have already stated that there is no point to me solving it.
>However, if you solve this problem
>
>Given you have a low pass filter with a resistor of 31830 ohms, and a
>capacitor of 1 Nano Farad. at frequency of 500 Cs what is the DB loss and
>the phase angle? You will have to work out the reactance first, sir.
Already solved it, Sir shit-for-brains. See my comment from two days
ago.
>I might and I mean, "might" overlook that you screwed up ohms law.
>
It's "Ohm's law," Sir shit-for-brains.
>>>>>Given a three phase unbalanced supply, VL=400V, Z1=30,Z2=50 and Z3=40
>>>>>ohm,
>>>>>calculate phase voltage, Each line current and the power dissapated
>>>>>across each line, sir.
>>>>
>>>> I don't have time for you to throw silly problem after problem at me,
>>>> when you can't solve a very simple differential equation.
>>>
>>>You're guessing sir.
>>
>> I've already given you the easiest of differential equations.
>
>Your puerile attempt to avoid the problem without having the backbone to
>admit it has ben noted, sir.
>
And yet you have from me the answer to your problem... and we now
await your answer to me to my problem.
>>>>I can
>>>> certainly throw problems at you that you have no idea how to even
>>>> approach. Just how simple do you expect the problems I offer must be?
>>>> Perhaps a little bit of algebra is the limit of your education? Beyes'
>>>> Theorem, my ass.
>>>
>>>" certainly throw problems at you that you have no idea how to even
>>>> approach"
>>>
>>>No, you cannot sir.
>>
>> Sure I can, shit-for-brains. I've already thrown three at you that
>> you're afraid to even take a stab at.
>
>
>There's two I've thrown at you which you haven't answered sir. I have a
>third, for you.
>You have a paralell tuned circuit with a resistance of 68 ohm, a resonant
>frequency of 5khz, and an inductor of 145.4 mH. Calculate the capacitance.
>
>That's three each now, sir.
Already answered that one as well, Sir shit-for-brains. That means
you owe me two answers from among the eight questions I posed to
you.
At this point, Death Disco gave up answering any of my responses,
while simply leaving everything in.
Planet Visitor II
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/dictionary.html
All remarks unanswered by Death Disco --
>>
>>> Not when you failed to answer the simple DB problem I
>>>gave you earlier.
>>
>> When you learn how to formulate your problems accurately you'll
>> get better results. Offering mumbo-jumbo only shows your own
>> ignorance.
>
>Your puerile attempt to avoid the problem without having the backbone to
>admit it has ben noted, sir.
Already answered, Sir shit-for-brains. You're starting to sweat now.
>>>"Given you have a low pass filter with a resistor of 31830 ohms, and a
>>>capacitor of 1 Nano Farad. at frequency of 500 Cs what is the DB loss and
>>>the phase angle? You will have to work out the reactance first, sir."
>>
>> Hell... here's one for you that does have a schematic along
>> with the problem. Try to answer this one --
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/circuit.jpg
>>
>
>Answer the problem I gave you sir.
Already answer, Sir shit-for-brains. You're sweating profusely now.
>> But make up your mind... I thought you claimed it was "accurate" to
>> 318310.
>>
Heh... are you claiming it was a "typo"????
Hey... Sir shit-for-brains. When can I expect you to answer a single
question of mine, given that all yours which can be answered have been
answered?
Repeating my comment, which you avoided by suddenly disappearing for
a week.
>
>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:ah5r06do51ge3jus8...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 20:55:05 +0100, "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
>> wrote:
>>
>>I've already given you the easiest of differential equations. You
>>have no idea how to even approach a solution. IMO, differential
>>equations are far above both your educational level and your
>>intellect. You have offered nothing that would prove me wrong
>>in my belief. If you did not have the resource of the Internet
>>I doubt seriously you could even describe what a differential
>>equation even is.
>>
>>While your question is itself a piece of rubbish... is it a Wye
>>connection with a neutral? A Wye connection without a neutral?
>>A Delta connection? You need to provide a schematic
>>clarifying which voltage is which, in particular where VL
>>is measured from and to. The schematic also needs to
>>include the 4th and possible 5th wire that carries the unbalanced
>>current and offsets from the reference "0 V". In particular you
>>only go in circles if you have a single three phase voltage, yet
>>have three different individual line potentials, without a
>>defined method of doing the 3 voltages -> 1 voltage.
>>
>>Only with a circuit schematic or more information as to the
>>configuration of the power supply itself, can one compute the
>>equivalent circuit A phase... Circuit B phase... and Circuit C phase.
>>It's not even specified which phase or phases are used as the
>>load. Your question obviously came at the end of a lesson in
>>which various factors were PRESUMED... this is not the case
>>in real life. Only with further information given or a schematic
>>can one determine the equivalent Circuit A Phase... Circuit B
>>Phase.... and Circuit C Phase. If it's an unbalanced Wye load
>>we could use matrix algebra to compute various factors, but
>>we would still need which phase or phases are used for the
>>load voltage out.
>
>You have lost your bet, sir.
No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>> I'm betting that question comes from one of your Dutch handbooks
>> on Electric Circuits and includes a schematic along with the question,
>> which you just tried to translate into English, and fucked it up
>> properly as you did with that other problem. If you can't put the
>> question up with a schematic it's about worthless, in the way you
>> offered it. But here's help... do it yourself.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-phase
>
>
>No, sir. The question was taken from a British academic souce and the
>question was worded correctly. Your response admits that you are unable to
>understand the question, sir.
I don't believe you. Post that source, and the entire problem as it
appears in that source. If you can't do that... you're simply lying.
I'll tell you what... you answer it, and provide a step-by-step answer
to see what you use that you omitted from the parameters of the
problem. One does not even know if you are referring to 400VL
as A/C or D/C.
But the gentle reader should notice that in more of your lies and
deceptions you even clipped out my entire comment which
disproved your argument. So I had to put it back in. You're a very
sick boy... seek help --
>> In any case your problem is a piece of junk not worth my
>> time.
>
>Wrong, sir.
Bullshit, it's just like all your comments... mindless drivel.
>> However, here's one for you that does have a schematic along
>> with the problem. Try to answer this one --
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/circuit.jpg
>
>I see you've found the section on transients in your book, sir
TRANSLATION "That fucking PV... he knows that I don't know
squat when it comes to examining a circuit schematic."
>> This has every bit of the information you need to solve the
>> question.
>>
>
>It does, sir.
And I'll bet you can't solve it.
>> ROTFLMAO... I've got a hundred bucks riding on this one with my
>> friend that you don't have a clue how to even begin.
>>
>
>"ROTFLMAO... I've got a hundred bucks riding on this one "
>
>What I would do, you ask. I would start by looking at what the circuit does,
>sir. At first glance, I see two potential dividers there. I would then
>redraw the equivalent circuit then work out PHI. Once I have that, I can
>plot a graph of the charge/discharge voltage of that capacitor and for good
>measure, I would probably plot the current, also.
ROTFLMAO. You need to provide the ANSWER, sport... not more of your
bullshit. What is the value of v (sub t) for t > 0 ???? From the
problem there is no need to graph it, or try your bullshit. See --
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/circuit.jpg
You have not correctly solved even one of the problems I've given you.
It has a very straightforward answer, if one knows the Laplace
transform method. In fact, there are all kinds of tables listing
various values. Here's some help --
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/LaplaceTransform.html
I think you're a load of bullshit and have no idea how to solve any
Laplace transform.
>You lose your bet, sir.
>
Heh... declaring victory while at the same time admitting defeat in
solving the problem.
> "with my friend that you don't have a clue how to even begin"
>
>You do not fool me, sir. You do not have any friends.
LOL... That from the guy who still has his mommy bring him
his warm milk at night.
"If" you had another brain it would be lonely.
>Given you have a low pass filter with a resistor of 31830 ohms, and a
>capacitor of 1 Nano Farad. at frequency of 500 Cs what is the DB loss and
>the phase angle? You will have to work out the reactance first, sir.
Well, let's see. We've already found the cutoff frequency = 1/(2 x
[pi] x R x c) = 1/(2 x 2.14 x 3.183 x 10^4 x 10^-9) Hz
thus reducing -- cutoff frequency = 5 x 10^3 Hz = 5 KHz
at cutoff frequency Xc = R = 3.183 x10^4 ohms = 31.83 K Ohms
cutoff frequency = -3 db
For the phase angle in degrees we know that it is equal to
-tan^-1(f(in)/f(cutoff))... and f(in)/f(cutoff) = 0.1. So from basic
trig we find that -tan^-1*(0.1) = 10 in degrees. So the phase angle
at 500 Hz is 10 degrees.
As to the dB loss there is insufficient information, since it is
determined by the order of the filter itself. For example: for
first order low pass filters the gain rolls off at a rate of -20
dB/per decade, in the stop band. On the other hand, for
second order low pass filters the roll off is -40 dB/per decade. But
since the frequency you gave is 500 Hz, and the cutoff frequency is
5,000 Hz, I would suspect there would be no dB loss at 500 Hz. See -
http://www.play-hookey.com/ac_theory/lo_pass_filters.html
Now answer please --
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/circuit.jpg
>
>Given a three phase unbalanced supply, VL=400V, Z1=30,Z2=50 and Z3=40 ohm,
>calculate phase voltage, Each line current and the power dissipated across
>each line, sir.
Insufficient information. Provide a circuit schematic and I'll solve
that problem. I mean... you DO have a schematic for the circuit
you describe... don't you????
Answer please --
Solve the differential equation d�x/dt� = -g
With initial conditions x(0) = x(sub o) and v(0) = v(sub o)
Answer please --
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/fourier_transform_quiz.jpg
Answer please --
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/laplace_quiz.jpg
These should keep you busy... if you can even handle one of them.
"If" you were any dumber you'd have to be watered twice a week.
>You have a parallel tuned circuit with a resistance of 68 ohm, a resonant
>frequency of 5khz, and an inductor of 145.4 mH. Calculate the capacitance.
>
Heh... what's this 5khz??? I thought you argued there was no
such thing... that it is KCs?
However... XL at resonance is --> 2*pi*f*h = 4.568 K ohms...
Thus CL must also be 4.568 K ohm. And simple arithmetic to
compute C = 1/(2(pi)*f*4568) gives C = 6.968 *10^-9 = 6.968 nf.
Answer please --
Find the steady-state temperature distribution in the half-space z
0 if the temperature distribution u(r,0) = F(r) is maintained on the
bounding plane face z = 0. Assume that F(r) satisfies the conditions
for the existence of its Hankel transform [1]. Show your work.
Your answer should be in the form of u(r,z) = ????
Answer please --
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Gauss_law_quiz.jpg
Answer please --
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Thevenin_quiz.jpg
I keep making them easier for you... haven't seen you solve one
yet.
>A fourth question, for you, sir. as you've added another, so shall I.
>
>
>You have a resonant tuned circuit of 500 c/s and an inductor of 1mH this
>give you an inductive reactance of 3.142 ohms. Tell me the capacitive
>reactance and show your workings, sir.
ROTFLMAO!!! Okay...
<sarcasm>
We have an XL of 3.142 ohms... So we add the sum of your ignorance to
XL which gives us 3.142 + googol. We then know the relationship of XC
to XL, so we add the sum of your ignorance to XC which gives us XC +
googol. So we have 3.142 + googol = XC + googol, and subtracting
googol from both sides of that equation we have 3.142 = XC. So at
resonance XL = XC. Given XL =3.142 ohms at resonance., XC must also
equal 3.412 ohms at resonance.
</sarcasm>
You doofus!!!! At resonance XL = XC. You GAVE me XL, and asked
for XC. Not just trivial but an identity. Actually... no work
involved there. Where do you get your problems from??? Joe Miller's
Joke Book of Electronic Ignorance?
Answer please --
An amplifier has a 4bB noise figure; the bandwidth is B = 500 KHz.
Calculate the input signal power that yields a unity SNR at the
output. Assume T (sub o) = 290 degrees Kelvin and an input
resistance of one ohm.
Answer please --
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/fourier_quiz.jpg
And because you asked me a question about a geometric shape --
One more for good measure --
Answer please --
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/sphere_quiz.jpg
<fx: PV sits back and laughs his head off>
>>>" certainly throw problems at you that you have no idea how to even
>>>> approach"
>>>
>>>No, you cannot sir.
>>
>> Sure I can, shit-for-brains. I've already thrown three at you that
>> you're afraid to even take a stab at.
>>
>
>" Sure I can, shit-for-brains"
>
>No, you cannot sir.
See above, Sir shit-for-brains... I have thousands of them that are
well beyond your intellect.
"If" you were any smarter, your mommy could teach you to fetch.
>"I've already thrown three at you that
>> you're afraid to even take a stab at."
>
>No you haven't, sir.
Of course I have... they are shown above... and you haven't solved
a single question I've thrown at you... NOT ONE!!!
>>> Not when you failed to answer the simple DB problem I
>>>gave you earlier.
>>
>> When you learn how to formulate your problems accurately you'll
>> get better results. Offering mumbo-jumbo only shows your own
>> ignorance.
>
>It's formulated correctly, sir.
No... it's not.
As to the dB loss there is insufficient information, since it is
determined by the order of the filter itself. For example: for
first order low pass filters the gain rolls off at a rate of -20
dB/per decade, in the stop band. On the other hand, for
second order low pass filters the roll off is -40 dB/per decade. But
since the frequency you gave is 500 Hz, and the cutoff frequency is
5,000 Hz, I would suspect there would be no dB loss at 500 Hz. See -
http://www.play-hookey.com/ac_theory/lo_pass_filters.html
>
>>>
>>>Problems you cannot solve, sir.
>>
>>
>"Wrong, sport... "
>I'm glad to hear it, sir. I look forward to seeing your solutions, dear
>fellow.
See above, shit-for-brains.
>>>>
>>>
>>>It's hardly a "simple" problem then, sir.
>>>
>> Yes... but you don't even know the first thing how to start.
>
>You are guessing, sir.
And yet... there you sit... claiming I haven't thrown a problem
at you that you cannot solve. And then you wonder why I call
you a pathological liar.
>>>> But I can "understand" the solution in going through that _cheat
>>>> sheet_. I'm quite sure that you couldn't.
>>>
>>>You're guessing, sir.
>>>
>> Well, prove it!
>
>You haven't posted the cheat sheet yet, sir
When you solve the first step, shit for brains.
>>
>>
>> *profound silence from Sir shit-for-brains*
>
>You were anything by silent, sir.
Your name is "Sir shit-for-brains." Try to separate fact from
your rather disturbed and creepy imagination.
>>>Provide me with the references and sources you used and I shall see if I
>>>can figure it out but it doesn't read like an electrical engineering problem.
>>>It reads like a physics problem.
>>
>> Give you the source so you can look up the answer?
>
>So you looked up the answer sir. I could have guessed.
I have all the answers. You have none.
>>You must be
>> joking. However, the title of the source contains the word
>> "Engineering."
>>
>
>Is it electrical enginnering, sir?.
No... it's electrical "engineering," you stupid shit-for-brains.
Get yourself a spell checker. It will not only improve the appearance
of your comments, but teach you how to spell.
>>>
>>>A curious statement as you have managed to answer only one problem I posed
>>>for you.
>>
>> While you have correctly answered not a one of mine. Hell... you have
>> three waiting for you, >
>>><snip>
>>>
>
>"While you have correctly answered not a one of mine"
>
>You are incorrect, sir. I answered your first one correctly, second time
>round.
The point is that you answered incorrectly. I don't usually answer
questions until I am sure of the answer. See above. I've enjoyed
this since it has made me at times go back to the references I
maintain... you are quite permitted to use any references you might
find helpful... but so far there hasn't been any real effort shown on
your part, because you've become aware that the situation is much
too complex for your limited skills.
"If" brains were taxed, you'd break the EU bank in refunds.
>"Hell... you have three waiting for you,"
>
>You have 4 waiting for you.
I have none waiting for me. In fact, there are two of your own
waiting for you to provide a schematic. You do know what a schematic
is... don't you???
You now have eight questions waiting for you. I promise to give
you at least two for every one you ask me... and I'll bet you whine
that you are unable to answer or even try to answer any of them
with an answer that makes any sense.
Right now the score is eight questions to you with only one
"second-chance" feeble answer from you, and no unanswered
questions from you to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Remember... when you point your finger at me, in "calling the kettle
>>>>>> black," there are three fingers on that same hand pointing right back
>>>>>> at you, sport.
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>As I said before, sir. They are pointing directly at you.
>>
>> Apparently you're also blind.
>
>No, sir.
Talk's cheap, son. See --
http://tinyurl.com/2vwejyl
>>>Basic electrical principles are too complicated for you, evidently sir.
>>
>> Heh... I haven't seen any picture of electrical principles from you,
>> Sir shit-for-brains.
>>
>
>You need pictures, sir?
>You should be able to draw them from the parameters I gave you, sir.
Wrong. YOU should be able to draw them from the parameters you
gave, Sir shit-for-brains. You assert YOU CAN... so you need to PROVE
IT. We both know that you cannot draw the circuits in question given
only the limited parameters you've given.
>>>> An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
>>>
>>>
>>>Exactly my point, sir. As I said, "You have no basis to back up your
>>>assertions, so they can only be guesses"
>>>
>> You're the one asserting that I'm guessing. Prove it. I've
>> got the proof.
>
>You have never backed up your assertions, without proof they are guesses,
>sir.
And yet, you're the one asserting I'm guessing. Logic really is
too complicated for you, sonny. Stick with the warm milk from mommy
at night, and stay out of Internet information sites about electronics
that are too complicated for you.
>> I've already given you the easiest of differential equations.
>
>No, sir.
Yes, sonny. The differential equation is --
Solve the differential equation d�x/dt� = -g
With initial conditions x(0) = x(sub o) and v(0) = v(sub o)
They don't come any easier than that...
<fx: Death Disco begins to sweat, and turn blood-red in the
face>
>>>>>>>It was not a cite, sir, so no reference is required.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Your unreferenced site (sic) is inadmissable (sic)"
>>>>>
>>>>>The word is "cite", sir.
>>>>
>>>> That's why I followed it with a (sic), you moron. See --
>>>> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/sic
>>>> Quote -- "Used to indicate that a quoted passage, especially one
>>>> containing an error or unconventional spelling, has been retained in
>>>> its original form or written intentionally."
>>>>
>>>
>>>"That's why I followed it with a (sic), "
>>>
>>>Which was incorrectly placed sir.
>>
>> Wrong, Sir shit-for-brains. It was placed quite accurately. Since
>> both your use of "site" and your misspelling of "inadmissible,"
>> required mention that it was garbage English.
>>>
>
>It was incorrectly placed sir..
An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
>>>
>>>"Keep in mind that YOU originally misspelled both "cite""
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>No Didn't sir.
>>
>> Yes, you did,
>
>No Didn't sir.
>
Yes, did... Sir shit-for-brains. Unlike you and your absurd lies I
have the PROOF... in your own words. you challenge me to provide
proof positive of your dishonesty. I have this proof, Sir
shit-for-brains. It is unambiguous, undoubted, and in your own hand,
and I believe it is in the interest of newsgroup readers to realize
that your protestations of honesty, repeated over and over, are not
true. You are a pathological liar.
>>
>>>As I said, sir, "Typographical errors are only a bad screwing when you are
>>>writing a paper on English language sir. On newsgroups it's minor at worst
>>>and only used as ammunition for imbeciles like you whom can't win their
>>>arguments any other way".
>>
>> You can say it forever, and it won't for a single second hide your
>> shown ignorance of the English language.
>
>English is not my first language, xenophobe,
Well, English is my mother-tongue and I despise it being assassinated
by someone who isn't intent upon learning English, but instead intent
upon using it to spread poisonous filth, and pathological lies. After
all.... you did write that -- "if i do not approve of a definition I
simply choose not to use it." That's proof you are not trying to
learn English, but to corrupt it.
However, you're the xenophobe, since you insisted I cannot use
"American English." I just wish you'd use English in ways in which
you do not intend to corrupt the English language. I'll take any
kind... as long as you don't use it to spread hate, and Holocaust
denial, and other venomous lies.
>> "Education is the best provision for the journey to old age." --
>> Aristotle.
>
>
>Who mentioned education, sir? We were talking of typographical errors, sir.
>
We're talking about your stupidity.. which is truly astonishing in
it's breadth and length.
>>
>>>Perhaps you should invest in a Thesaurus, sir.
>>
>> And yet that's all you have to say. Repetitive mindless drivel.
>
>Pot, kettle, black, sir.
Hardly... See..
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/thesaurus.jpg
That's just one of them, Sir shit-for-brains... You really are an
emotional wreck, my boy... seek help.
>
>>>>>No I don't sir. Wait a can hear your voice now. It's a high pitched
>>>>>meaningless whine.
>>>>
>>>> No... that's the sound of those cockroaches that you protect from
>>>> being "murdered" (sic). ROTFLMAO. Death Disco --> AADP's
>>>> cockroach protector. Won't let anything harm his "poor
>>>> innocent cockroach," insisting that killing a cockroach is defined
>>>> as "murder" to him.
>>>>
>>>
>>>"No"
>>>
>>
>> Yes.
>
>No.
YES!!! Heh heh heh... got you going. You've made lying your
profession. YES... YES... YES...
>>>It's definately your voice, sir.
>>
>> Too bad your comment only again displays your ignorance of the
>> English language.
>
>You're guessing, sir.
Hardly... there is not a single post from you that does not contain
either a new lie, or a denial of your past lies. And lying is
well-known as an attempt to cover-up for ignorance. Your
post here carries a number of your lies.
>>>>
>>>Nonsense, dear fellow. It is unknown therefor I cannot know it.
>>
>> But you said you _know_ it. You said it was "something higher
>> than ourselves." Well, how could that be if you didn't hear it from
>> "it"? Who told you? Oh, wait... it's that Bible talking to you
>> again... never mind.
>>
>
>Nonsense, dear fellow. It is unknown therefor I cannot know it.
And yet.... you insist you DO KNOW there is "something higher than
ourselves," who has TOLD YOU there is this fairy tale of "a right to
life for cockroaches, rats, flies, bacteria and other pathogens." With
each human falling someone in between one cockroach and two
cockroaches in worth.
Once again, in your imaginary belief that "nature" is that "something
higher than ourselves" and has given all biological life a "right to
life," you offer another one of your logical fallacies, "The appeal to
nature" fallacy. See --
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/logic.html#natural
It's thinking like yours that leads to the taking of life, in the
mistaken belief that doing so protects "a right to life." Clearly in
your argument about your precious cockroaches, you have insisted
that the lives of two cockroaches as twice as important as the
life of one human being.
I'll ask you again... would you kill two cockroaches to save a
murderer from being executed?
>>>Simple logic, sir.
>>
>> ROTFLMAO. Doesn't that word stick in your craw, considering you
>> have no idea what it really means???
>
>Id that the best you can do, sir? It is apparently.
Was that the best you could do in arguing "Simple logic," in support
of one of the most massive efforts to diminish the human race ever
seen in Usenet?
>>>>
>>>"Yes, you did".
>>>
>>>No I didn't, sir.
>>
>> See above... PROOF positive. Poor ol' Sir shit-for-brains... caught
>> in yet another lie.
>>
>
>No proof at all, sir.
And yet the proof is there... in your own words. your argument when
put into logical terms is "x is something higher than ourselves." and
"x is an unknown." But you know that "x is something higher than
ourselves," So "x is not unknown to Death Disco."
quod erat demonstrandum -- Death Disco claims to "know the unknown."
And what's even more revealing is that you clipped the proof, but
left only your denials in.
"Nature" doesn't give a shit about biological life, Sir
shit-for-brains. Your unnatural belief that abstractions _talk to
you_, is the sign of a sick mind.
>>>"Shit, son"
>>>
>>>I shall take that as a yes.
>>
>> Take it any way you want to...
>
>Oh I will, sir.
You've always been a master of lies... why should I expect otherwise?
"If" ignorance were a crime, you'd be on the "ten most wanted" list.
>
><snip Mr Noles' puerile nonsense>
Heh... Death Disco admits that my credentials are in order, yet has
even swallowed the key to his desk in which he keeps his imaginary
credentials (along with his trusty Bible), to make sure he can claim
anything he wants.
>>>>>>>You believe in a god, sir?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is the word "if" (a conditional clause) too complicated for you? IF
>>>>>> you were a bird you could fly. But you aren't a bird.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>"Is the word "if" (a conditional clause)"
>>>
>>>Yes it is sir.
>>
>> Well, then... wake up!!
>
>You're droning would send anyone to sleep, sir.
There's a solution for that... simply ignore my ruination of
all your arguments, rather than respond with these endless streams
of lies and mindless drivel of yours.
>>>"IF you were a bird you could fly. But you aren't a bird"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I could fly in an aeroplane, sir.
>>
>> No. sport... it's the "aeroplane" that flies. Not you. If you
>> could jump on the back of one of your dragons,
>
>My dragons, sir?
Yeah, one of your imaginary dragons.
>
>"No. sport... it's the "aeroplane" that flies. Not you"
>
>Only if you forget to get on it, sir.
>
You're insane... by now even you must realize that your trolley has
jumped the tracks. Have mommy bring you some warm milk and
tuck you in, you've used up all your lies for today.
>> In any case... read my word, Sir shit-for-brains. It refers
>> to BIRDS... and doesn't even say that YOU can't fly but
>> that IF you were a bird you could fly.
>
>And my words do not testify that I cannot fly without an aircraft, sir.
>They stipulate only that I can fly on one.
That's not YOU flying, Sir shit-for-brains.
>I would hope that you did not do much programming in your alleged masters
>degree, sir. You do not have the logic for it.
ROTFLMAO... Death Disco insists that getting on a plane that
flies means HE can fly... and calls that _his logic_. Perhaps
you should examine the logical fallacy of "The Affirmation of
the Consequent." See --
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/logic.html#consequent
Notice that your argument is "A" - I can fly implies "B" because the
aircraft can fly me. Just because "B" is true, does not mean "A" is
true. You cannot fly, bird boy.
"If" there were an Easter Bunny, Death Disco would claim that the
Easter Bunny told him there is this "right to life for cockroaches and
other vermin."
>But, given that
>> you also hear voices I suspect you also believe you can be
>> transmogrified into a bird, simply by stepping into the
>> teleporter from StarTrek. Perhaps a carrion eating bird...
>> it would certainly be apposite (look that word up in your handy
>> pocket English dictionary).
>>
>
>"But, given that
>> you also hear voices "
>
>I can hear them now, sir. the radio is on.
Is that those voices coming from your tin hat antenna? Pretty soon
you'll have to put up a sign to warn others. See --
http://tinyurl.com/32tx8n3
>
>>>>>I ended my comment with a question mark, sir. I was asking you a
>>>>>question.
>>>>
>>>> Well... I don't believe in a God. Certainly not one who figures that
>>>> all biological life, down to viruses and mosquitoes must be given some
>>>> "right to life." Nor do I consider cockroaches to be equal to human
>>>> beings as you have insisted.
>>>>
>>>
>>>"I don't believe in a God"
>>>
>>>You don't, sir? Then why do you keep asking it to strike me down?
>>
>> Are you still confused about the word "if," Sir shit-for-brains???
>> But trust me... if would no big loss to humanity. Although
>> cockroaches might attend your funeral. With cockroaches,
>> mourning the loss of their "champion," who insists they are
>> each the equal of a human being, up to the neck of everyone
>> around it. No greater love hath man... than Death Disco for
>> the cockroach.
>>
>
>"Are you still confused about the word "if," "
>
>Oh there's no confusion, sir.
They why is it you continue to insist the word doesn't exist in my
comment, shit-for-brains?
"If" ignorance were painful, you'd be in agony.
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>I have not killed anyone sir.
>>>>
>>>> So that's your excuse for the slaughter of the Tutsis in Africa????
>>
>>>
>>>You perceive that innocence is an excuse? Curious.
>>
>> When you're part of the problem!!!
>
>The part of the problem is the people doing the killing; the other part of
>the problem is the politics behind the people doing the killing. If you are
>involved in neither of those then you are not part of the problem.
>
All men are political animals. If you don't fight against it... then
you are fighting for it. I haven't yet seen you write that you regret
or despise the killing of those Tutsis. But I have seen you insist
you do not know of the Holocaust, while telling the Jews that
"after sixty years, it's time for them to get over it."
>>> I wasn't at the holocaust. I do remember much of my
>>>education, however.
>>
>> You mean arithmetic. Big deal. But again we have your
>> two-faced claim. 1) You state "I do remember NOTHING."
>> and then you state 2) "I do remember much of my education."
>>
>> Which is it???
>
>"You mean arithmetic"
>No, sir. I mean a whole lot more.
An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
> "I do remember NOTHING."
>
>If you cannot win an argument without having to twist words, sir then you
>should not be allowed to play
>
I put up your EXACT words, Sir shit-for-brains. Don't imply I'm lying
when you said exactly that in very precise words.
>> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>>
>> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
>> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
>> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>>
>>>That is your problem, sir.
>>
>> How can the fact that you insist you hear voices from "something
>> higher than ourselves," possibly be MY problem?
>
>I made no such claim, sir.
Sure you did, you airhead. How do you KNOW that there is
a "right to life for all biological life"? There is no written word
from "someone higher than ourselves," unless you are thumping
your Bible. You imagine that "nature" and "biology" TALK TO
YOU?? No one else hears those voices from "nature" and "biology."
An abstraction cannot offer some kind of fact. "Nature" and
"biology" do not dispense "rights" to anything or any one.
"If" one wanted to write rubbish, they could take lessons from you.
>If you cannot win an argument without having to twist words, sir then you
>should not be allowed to play
>
TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
I wasn't what he found me to be so I could show he is not correct,
but the bastard hit the nail right on the head."
>>>
>>>Oh please, sir. Once cannnot watch the news without hearing about someone
>>>your people bombed.
>>>
>>
>> "In respect to the death penalty"!!! Can't you ever read my words
>> without distorting them, and lying about it???
>
>"In respect to the death penalty"!!!
>
>Is that what you call it?
Isn't that what was stated in my words? Are you deaf, dumb and
blind... or just incredibly stupid with a pathological need to lie?
Once again... to clear this up, because of you hoping to first remove
my words, and then twist them into saying what I did not say... here
is my comment... repeated for you -- which you had clipped out.
---------------------------------
Wrong again... the only people interfering in the affairs of other
states in respect to the death penalty is the EU trying to exert
pressure on the U.S. in an internal matter. I don't know of
any American having posted to AADP who gives a shit what
the EU does with her murderers. I know I don't care! Yet the
EU remains *profoundly silence* when it comes to condemning
Islamic Sharia law, which stones women for adultery, and hangs
those who are homosexuals.
---------------------------------
See the words "in respect to the death penalty," you lying sack of
shit?
>>>> While Europe continues to fancy Africa as part of her colonial
>>>> empire, and will commit murder and genocide if doing so can
>>>> maintain hegemony over the indigenous population and the
>>>> mineral resources of Africa.
>>>
>>>Your xenophobia is showing again, sir.
>>
>> Actually it's Europe's xenophobia,
>
>No, sir. It's yours.
>
Wrong, shit-for-brains. As I've explained I don't give a rat's ass if
the EU holds a parade and makes sure that every murderer enjoys
a conjugal weekend with Miss EU. That's the EU's business.
However, when the EU starts fucking with what WE do with OUR
murderers... they are the ones demonstrating xenophobia. You really
need to look up the word, shit for brains. See --
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/xenophobia
XENOPHOBIA -- "Extreme dislike or fear of foreigners, their customs,
their religions, etc."
Our custom is that we handle our murderers as we see fit... you and
the rest of the EU show "extreme dislike" for OUR custom. In fact,
the same applies to the U.S. being a strongly religious based
citizenship (for some reason which eludes me... because it's truly
stupid, IMO. But I can form that opinion, without being xenophobic,
because I am an American). The EU really has little to do other than
complain about the so-called "American religious right," that drives
members of the EU into fits of raving hysteria, and fear greater than
their fear of an EU 9/11.
Don't even try to argue otherwise, because the evidence is there.
As you've argued -- "Who are you to poke your nose into what is none
of your business?" Apparently your xenophobia applies to your
objection to me sticking my nose in... while you have no problem with
you sticking YOUR nose in... what is none of your business.
>>>As I said, your country is as knee deep in blood as everyone else, sir.
>>
>> So that excuses "everyone else"???
>
>No, sir.
Then why do I not see you having ever complained about the Holocaust
or the genocide in Rwanda, or the genocide in the former state of
Yugoslavia? Why have I never seen you complain about the growing
influence of Islamic terrorism in Europe which led to the murder of
Theo Van Gogh? Or the fact that riots raged across the EU when
cartoons were published lampooning Mohammed? Or the fact that
Geert Wilders must be protected 24 hours a day, every day, because
he is anti-Muslim terrorism? Or the fact that Muslim fathers and
brothers murder their daughters if they have anything to do with
non-Muslims, believing "family honor" (sic) is better served through
murder of one's own family? Why have I not seen you complain
about these images right from the UK --
http://michellemalkin.com/2006/02/03/In-their-own-words/
Or is that you in one of those "protests"?
>>>Maybe I can borrow some of yours, sir.
>>
>> Oh, gee... I'm shattered.. poor Sir shit-for-brains doesn't have
>> an original thought in his head and simply uses the typical "you
>> to," as some kind of excuses for his psychotic behavior.
>
>"poor Sir shit-for-brains doesn't have
>> an original thought in his head "
>
>Don't you, sir? That's hardly suprising.
TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
I wasn't what he found me to be so I could show he is not correct,
but the bastard hit the nail right on the head."
>>>Yes, sir. You're the one whom likes showing off your book collection.
>>
>> And you, Sir shit-for-brains - like showing off your ignorance
>
>No, sir. I like showing off yours. I'm amazed that one who has so many books
>knows so little. Perhaps you should try reading them.
>
TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
I wasn't what he found me to be so I could show he is not correct,
but the bastard hit the nail right on the head."
And yet, I've answered all your questions, while you have answered not
a single one of mine, other than a feeble stab in your original
answer, and then thinking you'd better revise it after you took a
piss. And a question that was not meant to test anything other than
your very basic knowledge of resonance. Which any 14-year-old
knows if he is interested in science of any kind. So you really
haven't proved that you're older than 14.
>>>No I don't, sir.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>
>> Yes... you do, Sir Double-Speak.
>>
>No I don't, sir.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>> Other people's political
>>>views are not your business.
>>
>> Who are you to tell me what is or is not my business, given this
>> is Usenet, and not a closed political meeting of cigar-smoking
>> swindlers? Is this more of your God-complex speaking? Are
>> you acting as the guard for that closed political meeting?
>>
>
>"Who are you to tell me what is or is not my business"
>
>Who are you to poke your nose into what is none of your business?
>
Who are you to tell me what is "none of your business"? That's
your fascism talking, Sir shit-for-brains.
Clearly you are the one trying to set LIMITS on my "freedom of
speech." Pure fascism on your part.
"If" brains were dynamite, you couldn't blow your nose.
>> You really think name-calling bothers me, when I have the
>> evidence of YOUR HOLOCAUST DENIAL!!!
>>
>
>No, you don't sir
>
Sure I do... your exact words --
1) "You do not remember what is not in your memory and it is not in
your memory if you did not experience or witness it first hand."
2) "You cannot forget or remember the extermination of 6 million jews
unless you remember them."
3) "You cannot forget or remember the extermination of
6 million jews unless you remember them and to remember
them you must have experienced them first hand."
etc.. etc... etc... While you do "remember" the Crusades and the
Greeks bearing gifts!!! And below all the other murders committed
in WW II... but you NEVER "remember" the Holocaust.
>>>I pick up the cockroach with my hand and take it outside, sir.
>>
>> Heh... try it sometime. Are you going to put on your "super powers"
>> costume that "something higher than ourselves" gave you, so you can
>> be faster than a speeding bullet, and pick up that cockroach, because
>> it's hoping to rest in your tender arms, and will quietly wait for you
>> to pick it up? Fat chance!!
>
>"Heh... try it sometime"
>
>I do, sir.
No proof offered. Your claim fails.
"A cockroach, for instance, flees from a predator when it detects a
puff of air. It works out the wind direction, and acts in less than 60
milliseconds."
and --
"High-speed videos showed that a cockroach could run 1.5 metres
(almost five feet) per second. As it increased speed, the cockroach
leaned back and ran on only four of its six legs. To zoom along at top
speed, it ran on only its two back legs."
See --
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v15/i3/animal.asp
Biological facts that limit the response time of all humans show it
is virtually impossible to reach down and pick up a cockroach with
the fingers of your hand. At most you'll get only the slippery
feel of the bacterial agents that cover his body, as he quickly
rushes across the face of your baby in getting away. Unless you have
fed that cockroach a hearty dose of vodka beforehand.
>>>> Obviously you would not "step on that cockroach" when it was already
>>>> on your baby's arm... or would you?
>>>
>>>I would not step on the cockroach full stop sir.
>>
>> Clear... you would let it possibly infect your baby with various
>> pathogenic bacteria and viruses they carry on their hairy legs and
>> bodies.
>
>
>No, sir. I would move it. You would stomp on it and infect your baby with
>bacteria from its blood, sir.
The problem did not offer a "door number three," shit-for-brains. By
inventing one you only show your ignorance and sly attempts to cheat
on the problem. It's that "if" factor that you want to use... the
"if" I could pick it up before it ran on my baby I would... but you
can't because the problem itself does not permit it.
>>> I recall you stating that
>>>you would step on it for the hell of it. Do you deny those words, sir?
>>
>> Without a doubt. I would never let a cockroach get close to my
>> baby if it was in my power to kill it before it did. Cockroaches
>> have as much value to me as a stone. And I would throw a
>> stone in water for the hell of it... just to watch it skip.
>>
>>" Without a doubt. I would never let a cockroach get close to my
>> baby if it was in my power to kill it before it did"
>
>Why not just move it, sir? Why are you Americans so obsessed with killing?
Because that wasn't part of the "thought experiment." Look... if
you're going to cheat and lie... then do whatever you want... but it's
obvious that all you are doing is cheating while hoping to use ad
hominem to attack me for wanting to protect my baby.
In the end... the thought experiment proved one thing... and one thing
only... you value the life of that cockroach equally or greater than
the value you place on the health of your baby. I do not value the
life of that cockroach equal to anything more than a rock. And just
as I would try to catch a rock that was thrown at my baby, I would try
to kill that cockroach before it had any chance of running onto any
part of my baby, or any object that my baby would come across.
And I don't permit my baby to _crawl on the floor_.
>>>>The question was phrased to
>>>> argue would you kill that cockroach BEFORE it could crawl on your
>>>> baby's arm, with the condition that you could not reach that cockroach
>>>> with your hand before it did crawl on your baby's arm? Leaving you
>>>> ONLY the choice of killing it BEFORE it could crawl on your baby, or
>>>> seeing it crawl on your baby's arm.
>>>
>>>
>>>Your question is bunkum. and I have already answered it, sir.
>>>
>> I know you have. You would permit your baby to possibly be infected
>> you _your friend... the cockroach_.
>
>So you did not read my answer, sir. Typical,, dear fellow.
There is no "door number three," cheater.
>>>>
>>>>>Are you getting angry again, sir?
>>>>>
>>>> Well... let me see... you told me "Others' opinions are none of your
>>>> business." Now you seem to be overly concerned about my opinions.
>>>> But I freely admit that Holocaust denial pisses me off. And you are
>>>> a Holocaust denier. That's the benchmark of my being pissed off
>>>> at you.
>
>>>
>>>Did you dislike that, sir? It was a kind of comment that a fascist would
>>>object too
>>
>> Only a fascist would argue that the opinions of others are _none of
>> my business_.
>
>
>No, sir. Only a fascist would argue that other people's opinions are his
>business.
Only a fascist objects to "freedom of speech."
When other people's opinions demonstrate hate I feel it is my moral
obligation to confront that hate. You would argue that doing so is
fascism... but doing so is "freedom of speech."
When you argue Holocaust denial, there is no question that I will
confront you. Your problem is that you can't defend your Holocaust
denial views, so you insist they are "your business," and thus "none
of my business." Confronting Holocaust denial is not fascism...
Holocaust denial is fascism.
>>>>>>>You should think your debates through, sir. Did you have any children
>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>lived sir?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does your mother still prostitute herself for a living? Trust me...
>>>>>> you start bringing insults to my real family or real children, rather
>>>>>> than a hypothetical thought experiment and you will find yourself
>>>>>> being accused of screwing your sister. Remember that YOU started
>>>>>> it. Now apologize and let's move on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Does your mother still prostitute herself for a living?"
>>>>>
>>>>>I am sure she could be persuaded, sir.
>>>>
>>>> Last I heard she was only getting a dollar a trick.
>>>
>>>
>>>It cannot be my mother you are thinking of, sir. She does not accept
>>>American money because she has standards. However I do enjoy that you are
>>>such an ignoramus that you fail to comprehend that in my motherland,
>>>prostitution is neither illegal nor immoral. It is a respectable
>>>profession.
>>>The "your mother is a whore" lines do not work on us, dear fellow.
>>>
>> So that was your mother I saw in that room with the red light, on
>> the Damrak... isn't she a little bit old for that "respectable
>> profession"? Does she also perform with donkeys??
>>
>
>>So that was your mother I saw in that room with the red light, on
>> the Damrak
>
>What did she look like, sir?
A drunken slut.
>"Does she also perform with donkeys??"
>
>Is that a request, sir?
Why would you think so? Does she honor requests?
>Does bestiality rock your boat, sir?
Apparently it rocks yours... since you seem quite determined to
defend your mother's video with that donkey.
> I had
>suspected. If you bring the donkey you usually mate with I'm sure that young
>lady you met on the Damrak might accomodate you.
Your mother has her own donkey. Your sister bought it for her using
the money that you pay your sister for those "sexual favors" she gives
you. Those things are bad enough... but they dim in importance to
your attempts to deny the Holocaust.
>>>>> For a broken down hopeless old man
>>>>>such as yourself, she me very likely increase the price.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not into catching diseases. But what's this "she me very..."?
>>>
>>>
>>>"I'm not into catching diseases"
>>>
>>>Neither is she, sir.
>>
>> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>>
>
>An unreferenced cite is inadmissible. Did they fail you on referencing at
>university, sir or did you fake your certificate?
>
What "unreferenced cite"?
>>>"But what's this "she me very..."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>English is not my first language, sir. You are a xenophobic Muppet.
>>>
>>
>> English is not your - any language -
>
>
>English is not my first language, sir. You are a xenophobic Muppet; however,
>it is still better than yours is.
>
You only wish... While my wish is that you stop --
1) acting like a craven coward
2) displaying the depressing burden of your exiguous education
3) showing your disgusting ignorance
4) planting some defamatory slander
5) insisting that voices are telling you things that are "unknown"
6) sowing your hebephrenic and insensate nature
7) expressing your acerbic insolence
8) inserting your nefarious antipathy toward humanity
9) raving in your lubricous xenophobic hubris
10) exhibiting a proclivity for disgraceful buffoonery
11) ranting in frenzied and fallacious demagoguery
12) revealing your malfeasant racism
13) parading a shameful and evil Holocaust denial
14) creating a catachrestic destruction of the English language
15) flaunting your grotesque and ludicrous catagenetic representation
of humans as no better than cockroaches
and --
16) offering your disingenuous and fraudulent cheating and lying
etc...etc... etc...
>>>>>>>Then you are a murderer, sir, on two counts. One for killing the poor
>>>>>>>innocent cockroach
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ROTFLMAO. Read the definition of murder, you ignorant child.
>>>>>> MURDER -- "The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially
>>>>>> with premeditated malice."
>>>>>> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/murder
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Insects are NOT "human." Only someone on the edge of sanity could
>>>>>> argue that _cockroaches_ are HUMAN.
>>>>>
>>>>>The unlawful, deliberate killing, sir.
>>>>
>>>> "of one human by another," shit-for-brains.
>>>
>>>That must be awfully convenient for you. You are still a murdering
>>>bastard,
>>>sir
>>
>> Heh... that from the guy who insists a cockroach is worth every bit as
>> much as a human being. It's laughable.
>
>It's worth more than you are, sir.
Awww... isn't that sweet... Death Disco loves murderers, but insists
he also loves cockroaches.
>>>>> So if womeone were to kill you it would not be murder.
>>>>
>>>> What the fuck is a "womeone" (sic)? Is that one of your gang member
>>>> that I have to worry about murdering me??
>>>>
>>>
>>>English is not my first language, sir. You are a xenophobic Muppet.
>>>
>" Hey, I don't care whether English "
>
>Sir? You are going to have to stop your delusion that I care at all about
>what you think.
>
And yet you're still here. The gentle reader would find that a bit
unbelievable. You seem to care a great deal about what I think, since
you insist that I not speak of what I think of the opinions of
others... that you in your best fascist uniform insist is "none of
your business." You care so much about "what I think," that you
want to shut me up... one way or another. You're a very sick boy,
shit-for-brains... seek help.
Hey... bet you can't answer any of those nine questions I've given
you. Come on... I need to make some money from my friend. He's
betting you can solve the one on Fourier transforms. I'm betting you
had to look up what a "Fourier transform" even is.
"If" your ambition is to get educated... you're going at it in the
wrong direction, shit-for-brains.
>
>> So in your native Tigrinya language the cockroach is equal to the
>> human, and both have been told by "something higher than
>> ourselves," that they "a right to life." Is cannibalism also part
>> of your culture?
>>
>
>"So in your native Tigrinya language "
>
>It makes a nice change from being called, Dutch, sir.
HTH
>>>
>>>AADP neither accepts nor denies anything sir. It is a newsgroup.
>>
>> You're repeating yourself, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>
>
>You have not answered the argument, sir.
Your argument is that I have no right to free speech in this newsgroup
or any newsgroup, because you insist it's "none of your business." How
am I supposed to answer such an argument, other than to remark that
it's typical fascism?
>>>> See --
>>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rtfq
>>>
>>>
>>>If you will post acronyms, sir.
>>>
>>
>> Sure... why not?
>
>Because you have the bandwidth to post the full expressions even if you lack
>the vocabulary, sir.
If you can't figure out the acronym that only reflects upon your
intelligence, shit-for-brains.
>>
>>>> Educated yourself, for fuck's sake. You can't stumble through
>>>> life remaining ignorant... even if you think you can.
>>>
>>>I shall be right behind you in the queue, ignoramus.
>>
>> There is no question that reason would have the same effect on
>> you as daylight has on Dracula.
>
>It would have no effect if he lay asleep in his coffin with the lid closed,
>imbecile.
>
TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
I wasn't what he found me to be so I could show he is not correct,
but the bastard hit the nail right on the head."
>>>"Who the hell are you to tell me what I can and can't do?"
>>>
>>>Who are you to tell people what to believe, what politics to support, what
>>>religions to support?
>>>
>> I've never done that... "
>
>Wrong, sir. You always do it. if you read a post where someone has a
>political or a religious view you don't like, you hound them, you lie and
>you try to humiliate and discredit them by twisting their words. You are a
>fascist through and through, sir. In addition, you call your practice
>"exposing people". You are lower than any cockroach, sir.
>
My, my... look at that fascist rage. All because I've humiliated
and discredited you and your Holocaust revision.
But given you have more affection for the cockroach than for the
health of your baby, it's no insult for YOU to claim I'm "lower
than any cockroach." My word... YOU LOVE COCKROACHES!!
So why should I worry that _you don't love ME_?
Come on... let's try another "thought experiment." If you could
save the life of one cockroach by killing me... would you kill me? Of
course you would... There is that much hate in your heart for me.
Would you kill one cockroach to save my life, or the life of ANY
human???
You're not well... you're mentally unbalanced... seek help.
>>>At no juncture did I claim it was 100% inaccurate, sir.
>>
>> So it only "accurate" when YOU use it. ROTFLMAO. What a
>> sick hubris you have.
>>
>
>So it only "accurate" when YOU use it.
>
>No, sir. So it only "innaccurate" when YOU use it
If that were only a word in the English language. Do you always
make mistakes when you fly into one of your childish tantrums?
Answer the question.
>>>>>Why Jews, sir? Do you see them more important than the rest of the
>>>>>world?
>>>>>Are you a racist, sir?
>>>>
>>>> Six million Jews were exterminated by the Nazis... you insist you
>>>> don't "remember" it... so it is not in your memory. Given that fact,
>>>> it is obvious that you care more about six million and one cockroaches
>>>> than those six million innocent Jews slaughtered by your kinsmen
>>>> on the continent of Europe.
>>>>
>>>
>>>" Six million Jews were exterminated by the Nazis"
>>>
>>>
>>>What about everyone else who were exterminated by the Nazis, sir? Don't
>>>they count? What about those whom were tortured by the Japanese, sir? Don't
>>>tthey count?
>>
>> What about the six million Jews... don't THEY count???
>
>What about the Polish, sir? Don't they count? What about the Czechs, sir?
>Don't they count? What about the norwegians, sir>? Don't they count? What
>about the French, sir? Don't they count? What about the Bitish, sir? Don't
>they count? What about your own people sir? Don't they count? What about all
>the other allied nations who lost people in world war 2, sir? Don't they
>count? Then there's thecivilians, sir. Even Germany's own people were
>subject to the tyranny, sir. Open your eyes!
What about the Jews? Suddenly you "remember" the Polish, the Czechs,
the Norwegians, the French, the British, the Americans... Yet, you
cannot "remember" the Jews. And then you question my finding that to
be Holocaust denial. You do know the definition of "The Holocaust" in
its latest and most current meaning, don't you? See --
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/holocaust?view=uk
See that "holocaust" (lower case, without "the") means "destruction or
slaughter on a mass scale," while "The Holocaust" (upper case "H"
and including the word "the") means "the mass murder of Jews under
the German Nazi regime in World War II."
Now I don't call you a "holocaust" denier (small "h"), since you seem
to suddenly "remember" all the "destruction or slaughter on a mass
scale." But I do call you a "Holocaust denier" (upper case "H") for
the simple reason that you insist you cannot "remember" the killing of
the Jews in WW II. In fact you do everything in your power to argue
that there were no Jews murdered in WW II because of their race or
religion. You "remember" every murder in WW II EXCEPT the murder
of the Jews. You've just shown that in plain words.
>> Apparently
>> your argument is that because others were murdered in a war in which
>> 50 million people lost their lives, those six million Jews are
>> insignificant.
>
>You're wrong again, sir. My argument is that all were significant.
Yet you never mention the Jews... in fact you insist you CANNOT
"remember" any Jews exterminated in WW II, while you certainly
"remember" others murdered in WW II.
You're one very sick puppy.
>>That only shows your anti-Semitism
>
>That is not possible, sir.
An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
>
>>
>>>> You're the only racist, sport. That why you need to call me a racist
>>>> because I mentioned the Jews... the Jews who you CANNOT
>>>> remember... but I do remember them.
>>>
>>>"You're the only racist, sport">
>>>
>>>You're guessing, "sport".
>>
>> It's a subjective viewpoint. White-power group members would gladly
>> accept you as not being a racist.
>
>They would not, sir. They would not accept me as white, sir.
An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
But here it comes, gentle reader... according to Death Disco even
White-power groups are not "White people." So obviously he argues
that because THEY are not "White," they would not accept him as
"White."
>>While my opinion holds that you are
>> a racist because of the various comments you have offered in insisting
>> that you've "never seen a Black person."
>
>
>Your opinion is wrong, sir.
>"never seen a Black person." is not racist, sir. There are no black people.
>
Wrong again, sport. You may not like English definitions... you may
even insist you don't accept English definitions.... yet there they
are.... staring you in the face -- See --
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/black
BLACK -- "Of or belonging to a racial group having brown to black
skin, especially one of African origin: the Black population of South
Africa." Notice that "Black" in that case is capitalized. Just as
Italian, or French, or German is capitalized. But then you claim
you've never seen an Italian, or French, or German, either. It's
those damn cockroaches, that have your affection... all 4,000
recognized species of cockroaches.
>>>No you can't sir. You hear only your own fantasies
>>
>> I must be able to hear them. Since I repeat them so accurately,
>>when expose your lies, your racism, your Holocaust denial, and
>>your _hearing voices from "something higher than ourselves."
>>
>
>You hear voices, sir?
>
I hear you claiming to hear voices from "nature," "biology," and
"something higher than ourselves." It's no feat to hear voices
from REAL PEOPLE. But it's quite a feat for you to claim you
hear voices from abstractions such as "nature," "biology," and
"something higher than ourselves." Do you also hear voices
from your friend... the cockroach???
>>>English is not easy to master, sir. You are 78 and you are still
>>>struggling with it.
>>
>> Oh, gee... I'm shattered. Death Disco, who hope to annihilate the
>>English language by insisting if he sees a definition he _doesn't
>>like_ he simply refuses to accept it, tells me I'm struggling with
>>English.
>
>You should be, sir.
Really, my ignorant juvenile spoiled brat... if you feel attacking me
because of my age is somehow relevant, it only shows how miserably
inadequate, and filled with hate, and Holocaust denial, your arguments
are.
>>>et one fact straight, dear fellow. What you and I do here
>>>is what the British call "Banter". It is harmless fun for both of us, I
>>>hope. There is no threat to your health or any form of physical violence
>>>from me, sir. That is not my way. I detest people who beleive they can win
>>>arguments with thier fists. It's a losing strategy from day one. You will
>>>get no such threat from me, sir.
>>
>> And yet..... you "warned me." Strange...
>
>The only thing that's strange is you, sir.
TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
I wasn't what he found me to be so I could show he is not correct,
but the bastard hit the nail right on the head."
>>>> And at this point, Death Disco felt he had been hammered quite enough
>>>> for one sitting, and decided to just stop responding.
>>>
>>>No sir. I caught the "send" shortcut. Alt+S when aiming for alt+tab.
>>>
>>>However I responded to the rest in another post.
>>
>> This one is quite enough to have made a complete fool of you.
>
>Only in your fantasies, sir.
It's always nice to meet up with someone like you... since it makes
my limited intellect positively glow in brilliance in comparison.
Now about those nine problems... I'll expect an answer to at least
one of them in 48 hours, unless you expect to weasel out of it.
Hey... Sir shit-for-brains. Did you forget this one??? Here it is
again.
>
>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:ah5r06do51ge3jus8...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 20:55:05 +0100, "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>news:luej06dn2df6r0fs7...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 18:06:26 +0100, "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Finally have some spare time to wipe out the wimp...
>>>
>>>I look forward to seeing that sir.
Apparently you have a masochist streak in you.
>> I've had more important things to do than wipe the floor with
>> someone who spends his days playing "dungeons and dragons,"
>> as you do, Sir shit-for-brains.
>
>I am keen to meet the fellow, sir. He must have been asleep, or drunk or
>both, sir.
So you admit to being asleep, or drunk or both.
>>>>>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:l2db06hcao304a4bg...@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Mon, 31 May 2010 14:56:34 +0100, "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>><snip>
>>
>>What's curious is how you managed to tune your tin hat antenna to pick
>>up voices from "something higher than ourselves." What frequency
>>is it where you hear those voices from "something higher than
>>ourselves"?
>>>" But you're no longer worth my time"
>>>
>>>Was perfectly clear, sir. You cannot take time back, you know.
>>
>> Your "something higher than ourselves" told you that??
>>
>>
>>>If I stay awake that long, sir.
>>
>>Having a normal span of attention is not one of your natural
>>abilities, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>>
>>>>>> Hey, you've been declaring yourself the winner, stating that you've
>>>>>> already "accepted <my> flag of surrender." How did you figure that
>>>>>> out other than declaring yourself the winner?
>>>>>
>>>>>I have not declared myself the winner, dear sir. I was asserting an
>>>>>obvious truth.
>>>>
>>>> That's declaring, shit-for-brains. Do try to learn more about the
>>>> English language. The synonyms for "asserting" are "proclaim,"
>>>> "declare," "announce," "state," "voice," "express," etc... etc...
>>>> etc...
>>Oh, dear, Sir shit-for-brains. You have never offered an argument
>>that does not either show you are ---
>>
>>1) acting like a craven coward
>>2) displaying the depressing burden of your exiguous education
>>3) showing your disgusting ignorance
>>4) planting some defamatory slander
>>5) insisting that voices are telling you things that are "unknown"
>>6) sowing your hebephrenic and insensate nature
>>7) expressing your acerbic insolence
>>8) inserting your nefarious antipathy toward humanity
>>9) raving in your lubricous xenophobic hubris
>>10) exhibiting a proclivity for disgraceful buffoonery
>>11) ranting in frenzied and fallacious demagoguery
>>12) revealing your malfeasant racism
>>13) parading a shameful and evil Holocaust denial
>>14) creating a catachrestic destruction of the English language
>>15) flaunting your grotesque and ludicrous catagenetic representation
>>of humans as no better than cockroaches
>>or --
>>16) offering your disingenuous and fraudulent lying
>>
>>etc...etc... etc...
>>>No sir. I was asserting the obvious truth.
>>
>>Are you brain-dead??? When you "assert," you are declaring! Even a
>>trained chimpanzee could understand that, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>
>I see you are still trying to avoid your own screwups, sir.
I see you are still trying to avoid admitting that a voice from
"something higher than ourselves," has been talking to you
personally.
>>>> I haven't yet lost any money betting on your ignorance, Sir
>>>> shit-for-brains.
>>>>
>>>
>>>That is because you didn't bet any, sir.
>>
>> Wrong, Sir shit-for-brains.
>
>Are the bailiffs banging on your door, sir? Hmm? Do they shout through your
>letter box of that all so very bright home of yours, sir? Are they
>threatening to take it away from you because you cannot pay your gambling
>debts, sir. You should give it up, sir. You are no good at it.
I'm racking in the money. But aren't those guys in the white coats
with the straight jackets banging on your door, Sir
shit-for-brains?
>>>"All people are "special," "
>>>
>>>You certainly are, sir.
>>
>> All people are "special," even you, you sick in the head racist.
>
>You certainly are, sir.
You're especially "special." As humans we need to pity those who are
mentally unstable, as you are.
>>>
>>>Are you bored with your own repetition, sir?
>>
>> You mean YOUR repetition, sport...
>
>No, sir. I mean, your repetion..
And yet you can't stop lying.
>>
>> You're insane...
>
>My, dear fellow. Pot, kettle, black.
So you admit you're insane. And insist I'm insane for recognizing
that you're insane. Finally... a breakthrough!!!
>>>
>>>Apparently not, sir. There is no dent in my head
>>
>> I'll bet you haven't checked carefully in your scalp... look for a
>> "666" mark.
>
>You are a Christian, sir.
>
No, Sir shit-for-brains... you have me mixed up with your
Bible-thumping self. After all... I don't claim to hear voices
from "something higher than ourselves," as you do.
>>>We should remind yourself why you think I'm Dutch sir
>>
>> Who's this "we," Sir shit-for-brains?
>>
>>>"
>>>Bet you're Dutch, with a dingleberry hanging from your ass because
>>>of your unhygienic paedomorphic habits. You're certainly
>>>not Italian... I am almost mother-tongue fluent in Italian having
>>>learned most of it before I was 14, and then taking it as my
>>>minor in college. You're not French... my wife is mother-tongue
>>>French, born and raised in Paris... so I can do very well in
>>>the French spoken language, and good enough in the written
>>>language. You're not German... I spent 20 years in Germany,
>>>and can keep up a fairly good conversation, because people
>>>tend to overlook grammatical mistakes in respect to "der" "die"
>>>"das" gender notation and case endings when speaking, although
>>>my written German could use a lot of work, for which I do not
>>>have time, and no longer have the drive I once had. I don't think
>>>you're Spanish or Portuguese. Nor from the former East bloc.
>>>And since you mention ...
>>>
>>>"
>>
>> Man, that was a real logical and convincing observation on my part, if
>> I do say so myself.
>
>You do, sir?
Do you also have a reading disability?? After all, you don't want to
wipe that dingleberry away... just think of all the germs you'd be
"murdering" (sic)... ROTFLMAO. I'll bet you're afraid to even sit,
in fear you might crush some of those germs.
>>>Cite:
>>>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>>>From: Planet Visitor II <hidden to protect privacy>
>>>Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 00:11:17 -0400
>>>Local: Thurs, May 27 2010 5:11 am
>>>Subject: Re: High court rules out life sentences for some juveniles
>>>
>>>"I am almost mother-tongue fluent in Italian having
>>>learned most of it before I was 14, and then taking it as my
>>>minor in college"
>>>
>>>This is your logic for thinking I'm not Italian, sir?
>>
>> Well, try me, if you are Italian. Prove it.
>
>">>"I am almost mother-tongue fluent in Italian having
>>>learned most of it before I was 14, and then taking it as my
>>>minor in college"
>"
>
>How exactly does your comment prove that I am not Italian, sir?
>
It proves TO ME that you are not Italian. That's
good enough for me. Are you now invoking one of your
fascist commands that I am forbidden to "think"???
>>>"You're not French... my wife is mother-tongue
>>>French, born and raised in Paris... "
>>>
>>>This is your logic for thinking I'm not French, sir?
>>
>> Well, try me, if you are French. Prove it.
>
>How exactly does your comment prove that I am not French, sir?
>
It proves TO ME that you are not French. That's
good enough for me. Are you now invoking one of your
fascist commands that I am forbidden to "think"???
>>>"You're not German... I spent 20 years in Germany,
>>>and can keep up a fairly good conversation, because people
>>>tend to overlook grammatical mistakes in respect to "der" "die"
>>>"das" gender notation and case endings when speaking, although
>>>my written German could use a lot of work, for which I do not
>>>have time, and no longer have the drive I once had"
>>>
>>>This is your logic for thinking I'm not German, sir?
>>
>> Well, try me, if you are German. Prove it.
>
>How exactly does your comment prove that I am not German, sir?
It proves TO ME that you are not German. That's
good enough for me. Are you now invoking one of your
fascist commands that I am forbidden to "think"???
>>>You neglected to post your reasoning for believing me Dutch, sir.
>>
>> Because I don't speak Dutch, and the Dutch offer quite a
>> bit of education in the English language.
>
>That is your reason for thinking me Dutch, sir? I can see you have not
>thought this through.
I think everything through, Sir shit-for-brains. I form my opinions
independent of arguments from the deranged... like you.
>>>As should you, sir.
>>
>> I "remember" quite a bit of events that happened before I was born,
>
>No you don't, sir. You was not there.
ROTFLMAO... You mean "were not there." And yet I "remember"
them. Are you now in your fascist method intending to tell me what
I can and cannot "remember"? The fact that I "was not there" is
irrelevant to whether it happened before or after I was born. I
can "remember" the Kennedy assassination, even though I "was
not there." "Being there" is irrelevant to what our minds are
capable of "remembering."
>>>>>I did not, sir.
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>>
>>>Denying something doesn't automatically make the denier a liar, sir.
>>>
>> It doesn't make the denier suddenly speak the truth when it is
>> obvious that he speaks a lie. That seems to be your implication.
>
>Denial proves or disproves nothing, sir.
You seem determined to deny.
>>>>
>>>> Yes you did, you little Holocaust denier.
>>>
>>>I did not, sir.
>>
>> Yes, you did, Sir shit-for-brains. And you're also a Holocaust
>> denier... claiming you hear voices.
>
>I did not, sir.
Sure you did. You related that "something higher than ourselves"
had TOLD you that there is "a right to life for all biological life."
Claiming that it is "murder" to kill any biological life... including
cockroaches... making each of us a murderer a million, billion times,
each time we wash our hands. No wonder they call you "the
unwashed." You're determined to "murder" (sic) as few of those
germs as possible. If that "something higher than ourselves" didn't
TELL you there is such a "right to life," how did you come into that
information? Was it pixies... or the Tooth Fairy... or the Easter
Bunny... or Santa Claus??? Or was it your "mommy" making
you say your prayers to that "something higher than ourselves"???
>>>>>> Are you now denying those were your words?
>>>>>
>>>>>No, sir.
>>>>
>>>> Then you admit you are a Holocaust denier. Don't think you are?
>>>> Well, let me ask you... do you "remember" that there was an
>>>> extermination of six million Jews in the 20th Century???
>>>
>>>"Then you admit you are a Holocaust denier"
>>>
>>>No sir.
>>
>> If you claim you don't "remember" it happening, that is a clear
>> indication that you "deny" it happening.
>>
>
>Your logic does not follow normal rational reasoning, sir.
>
To your deep annoyance, it follows perfect logical reasoning.
See --
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/remember
Since you are xenophobic toward the "the British."
REMEMBER -- "to be able to bring back a piece of information into your
mind, or to keep a piece of information in your memory"
Or --
"to be kept in people's memories because of a particular action or
quality"
Or --
"to hold a special ceremony to honour a past event or someone who has
died"
There is nothing that argues we cannot "remember" what we did not
"experience first hand." And we certainly didn't "have to be there"
to remember something happened.
But then you've already insisted in your fascist way, that if you
don't like a definition you just refuse to accept it. But in this
case you are also INVENTING your own definitions in the English
language in which you presume to demand that "remember"
is defined as "only having experienced first hand" what you can
"remember." How neat that is for the Nazis. Or the neo-Nazis
of today.
>>>> Yet you fondly "remember" the Greeks. You naughty boy, you.
>>>
>>>Only the ones I've met, sir.
>>
>> Heh... that must have been a night of debauchery.
>
>A night, sir? Nobody goes to Greece for just one night, sir.
>
Zoommm...... that one flew right over your pointy head.
>
>>Don't bother sharing the sordid details...
>
>I won't, sir.
>
Thank you.
>
>
>> this is a family oriented newsgroup.
>
>Since when, sir?
Zooommm...... so did that one.
>>>>>You claimed that you could, "hear" me, sir.
>>>>>Any fear that you experience is your own, sir. If you were to be able to
>>>>>feel my emotions sir, you would feel my amusement.
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>>
>>>There was no denial, sir. You responses are getting more random, dear
>>>fellow.
>>
>> Need I point out again --
>
>Not if it is your usual gibberish, sir.
>
The truth has never been something that you want to see, Sir
shit-for-brains. You believe you can "invent" your own truth.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Shall we wait for you temper tantrum to calm down, sir?
>>
>> Heh... as the Dalai Lama noted -- "If a human being never
>> shows anger, then I think something's wrong. He's not
right in the brains" See --
>>http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1993865,00.html
>
>Are you planning to re-interpret his word too, sir?
Are you still unable to follow a link, you little liar?? Didn't I
give you a link to his words? Just as I do with your words
that indict you as an admitted "murderer" (sic). (I saw you wash
your hands... you brutal killer, you. What about that "Right to life"
for those "poor innocent creatures... the germs"?) Have you
thought about turning yourself in to the authorities and claiming
"self-defense"??? ROTFLMAO.
>>>"I never, ever lie. "
>>>
>>>Anothr lie, sir.
>>
>> Really, you admit you lied???
>
>Yes, sir.
Well then why don't you stop lying?
>"little boy, "
>
>You're guessing again, sir.
>
And yet there is no evidence that you are not a "little boy, with
an equally little brain."
Is it also your fascist demand that I "stop guessing"??? Any
other orders for me, Gruppenf�hrer Disco???
>>>>>"While opinions are like ass holes... everyone has one"
>>>>>
>>>>>They do sir? So you have only the one opinion. Curious
>>>>
>>>> "Opinions." "ass holes." The "s" in English means plural. I don't
>>>> know what it means in your mother-tongue which is apparently Tigrinya.
>>>
>>>" "Opinions." "ass holes." The "s" in English means plural"
>>>
>>>"While opinions are like ass holes... everyone has 'one'"
>>>
>>>The "one" implies singular, sir.
>>
>> "Opinions".... plural. "one".... used as a pronoun... for example ...
>> the simple English constructed sentence -- "she visited ONE of her
>> cousins." Notice that she does not have only ONE cousin. Thus
>> a person does not have only ONE opinion.
>>
>> Chee... but you are uneducated.
>
>You're guessing again, sir.
Well, you obviously are not educated in the English language in
respect to the use of plurals.
>>>
>>>"Heh... I believe you actually looked at a dictionary"
>>>
>>>When one is learning a language, it is useful to browse a dictionary of
>>>that language sir. It is a practice that I reccomend you try.
>>
>> Too bad you slept through most of that education. But I think you're sweating
>> about now... because I picked the right nation.
>
>Your refusal to educate yourself has been noted, sir.
TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
I wasn't what he found me to be so I could show he is not correct,
but the bastard hit the nail right on the head."
>>>"Don't blame me for your illiteracy"
>>>Numeracy, my dear fellow; not literacy.
>>
>> The terms are not mutually exclusive, Sir shit-for-brains.
>
>So you do not understand the expression, "mutually exclusive", either.
You stupid, stupid child. The term "mutually exclusive" means
that both events cannot occur at the same time. The two events
in question in this argument are --
1) Your illiteracy.
2) Your inability to understand numeracy.
I said that they are NOT "mutually exclusive," you implied that they
ARE "mutually exclusive." "Mutually exclusive" is a term that I am
quite familiar with, since logic circuits often use it. Such circuits
are called XOR gates. See --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XOR_gate
You can see the logic symbol for an XOR gate, or go down
further and see how an XOR output is constructed of some
AND gates or some OR gates. Looking at the input/output
truth table you'll see that there is an output ONLY when
either A or B are active, and no output when A and B
are both inactive, or both active.
Educate yourself.
>>>
>>>There was no denial sir. Your confusion is increasing.
>>
>> Don't you ever get tired of repeating the same mindless drivel?
>
>Do you, sir?
Given that I only repeat your "mindless drivel" why would I
get tired of it?
>
>>>""No sir. You were the one whom (sic) "fucked
>>>> up" lightspeed, sir."
>>>
>>>You did, sir. you claimed it was 300,000,000 M/s.
>>
>> No, Sir shit-for-brains... I said "presuming the velocity of light is
>> exactly 300,000,000 meters/per second."
>
>But it isn't, sir.
So what? The velocity of light is only a constant in a vacuum.
Scientists have slowed down light to a crawl when going through
various mediums. The question did not ask for the "speed
of light in a vacuum." It asked to PRESUME the velocity of light
is exactly 300,000,000 meters/ per second. Apparently you admit
you can't follow directions.
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/15-11/st_alphageek
>> The question was posed to not use a calculator or references.. because
>> the reference was given and the arithmetic could be done in the
>> head (not your head, of course, but the head of someone with at
>> least a room temperature IQ). I told you that the problem could be
>> solved in 30 seconds in the head... with nothing else... and I showed
>> how it could be. Unless you have a problem figuring out in your head
>> what the answer to 3000 divided by 8 is. 3/8 is 0.375... ching...
>> ching... ching... and there's the answer 375... bip.. bip... bip.
>> Kids these days... all of them need a calculator and can't read
>> questions accurately.
>>
>
>"The question was posed to not use a calculator or references"
>
>That is not your decision, sir.
>
Rubbish... every question is based upon certain parameters, including
what can be used in solving the question.
>> Good grief... it's so difficult for me to deal with the juvenile
>> uneducated.
>>
>
>Looking the in mirror must be a real problem for you then, sir.
Too bad you have such terrible problems in the English language.
"Looking the in mirror"??? What is that supposed to mean?
>> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
>> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
>> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>
>"Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole?"
>
>To respond to them, sir.
You don't need to repeat them to respond to them, Sir shit-for-brains.
Respond to them as you read them.
>>>That you didn't spot my quarter wave mistake or pinpoint where my first
>>>mistake was wrong? Yes sir. That is very strange.
>>
>> I'm very forgiving of your basic ignorance.
>
>I am less forgiving of yours.
That's because there is nothing to forgive.
>>
>>>>>I have built one in a while. What
>>>>>about you, sir? When did you last build one?
>>>>
>>>> LOL..." I have built one in a while," too. You ignorant child. Are
>>>> you also this stupid in your mother tongue? Don't lie now.
>>>
>>>I shall take that as a "Never". shall I ,sir.
>>
>> Since the word "never" does not appear in my comment,
>
>You avoided the question, sir.
>
You presumed to create a word that is not within my comment.
Further, I was making a mockery of your comment by mimicking
your exact words which made no sense whatsoever. Those words
of yours were "I have built one in a while." What the hell is
that supposed to mean?
>>>>
>>>
>>>"I'm not the authority. I'm the messenger"
>>>
>>>You are neither, sir.
>>
>> But you implied I was the "authority" behind my argument, when it's
>> obvious that the AUTHORITY is "Bureau International des Poids et
>> Mesures. The International System of Units - le Syst�me international
>> d'unit�s." That is... a lesser authority to those voices you hear
>> from "something higher than ourselves." He he he he he. You
>> psychotic fruitcake. Tell me again how you know more than the
>> Bureau International des Poids et Mesures. The International System
>> of Units - le Syst�me international d'unit�s.
>>
>
>"But you implied "
>
>No I didn't, sir.
>
Right... you stated an outright distortion of the facts. I never
claimed to be the "authority" behind my argument, while you
lied and claimed that I have no "right" to quote an "authority"
to justify my argument. In other words, you're not interested
in the truth... you just believe yourself to be more qualified
than the " "Bureau International des Poids et Mesures. The
International System of Units - le Syst�me international
d'unit�s." But given that you also claim you are the "authority"
behind an Easter Bunny claim that there is "a right to life for
all biological life... including cockroaches and other vermin,
bacteria and viruses," it's clear just how delusional your
belief in your own "authority" actually is.
>
>>>You have read them all in this small time, sir?
>>
>> I'm a fast reader.
>
>You would have to be the fastest reader on the planet, sir.
I've had a lot of time.
>> Can't do it, can you???
>
>
>Can't do what, sir?
>
Handle the truth.
>
>>Yet I've provided cite after cite showing
>> Hz being the recognized standard for "cycles per second."
>>
>
>
>If you had read your books sir, you would see that cs and c/s are also used.
Guess what? -- An assertion lacking a referenced cite is
inadmissible.
>> You're one hard-headed piece of work, Sir shit-for-brains.
>
>Thank you, sir.
You're welcome... always glad to help the retarded deal with their
problem.
>>>>>You haven't answered the problem I gave you, yet.
>>>>
>>>> Nor have you. I could give you a multitude of problems that you
>>>> could not even attempt to solve, sport.
>>>>
>>>
>> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>>>
>>>Yes I have, sir. I am still waiting for your solution if you can offer
>>>one.
>>
>> No, problem.... See -
>> http://www.bipm.org/en/si/si_brochure/chapter5/5-2.html
>
>That does not answer the question, sir. You have avoided it yet again.
>
Now that you admit you are mistaken about C/S, Cs, or whatever the
fuck you want to call it to avoid recognizing it as Hz, I have already
answered all your questions in my previous post.
>>
>>>"I've looked in all my books"
>>>
>>>Then you should find the answer in them, sir.
>>
>> I did find the answer in a very concise reference in my library titled
>> the "Standard Handbook for Electrical Engineers." About 2000 pages
>> deep, edited by Donald G Fink (look him up), published by McGraw Hill,
>> with ISBN 0-07-020973-1.
>
>" About 2000 pages deep"
>
>2304 to be exact, sir.
You counted THEM??? Mine doesn't have the pages numbered. It
just has the sections numbered. You spent all your time COUNTING
the pages??? Don't you have anything better to do?
>>Go to your library and ask them for it.
>> Then go to page 1-9... Systems of Measurement. And you will see
>> that Frequency is measured in Hz.
>
>Are those the only pages you looked at in the entire book, sir?
It is the page that references the STANDARD System of measurements,
Sir shit-for-brains. And nowhere in that book does the term C/S, or
Cs appear.
>> And yet I can find no reference to "Cs is the standard for cycles per
>> second." In fact every reference states that "Hz is the standard
>> for cycles per second."
>
>If that book is any good then it should contain the formulas to answer those
>little problems I gave you. Maybe you should try buying a copy and reading
>it, sir.
Your problems have already been answered. Now when can I expect you
to answer even ONE of the eight new problems I've posed to you???
<fx: sweat begins to form on Death Disco's forehead, as his cheeks
turn a ruddy red, realizing he can't solve even one of them,
regardless of what source he can find that might give him an answer>
>Hz is an abbreviation of a mathematical expression, sir; as are Kilo, Mega,
>Omega etc, etc.
Hz is an abbreviation for the Name "Heinrich Hertz," a contributor to
science... see --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Hertz
As such the term for "cycles per second" is Hz... not Hertz. While
you may find someone posts something like 1050 Hertz.. it is not
correct. In that respect Hz is NOT an abbreviation... but is the
standard representation for "cycles per second."
>C/s are the mathematical expression itself sir and not a
>standard abbreviation.
ROTFLMAO. Wrong again... Sir shit-for-brains. C/S is the
abbreviation
for "C/S Construction Specialties," and "C & S Wholesale Grocers," and
"C & S Oyster Bar," and other companies. It is not the recognized
electronic industry representation of "cycles per second."
> Hertz is an abbreviation, sir. We are not answerable
>to you regarding our choice of terms sir. Of course, should you feel the
>desire you are welcome to call your legal representative and have him sue my
>colleagues and I, sir.
You don't have an "colleagues," Sir shit-for-brains. What you have
are a few fellow dweebs who all collectively sit around with your
fingers up your ass.
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> R = 3.183 x 10^4 Ohms = 31.83 K Ohms
>>>>>>
>>>>>> c = 10^-9 Farads
>>>>>>
>>>>>> f = 500 Hz
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thus -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Xc = 1/(2 x [pi] x f x c) = 1/(2 x 2.14 x 500 x 10^-9 Ohms)
>>>>>
>>>>>Xc=1/w(omega)c sir but it equates to the same thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thus reducing --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Xc= 3.183 x 10^5 ohms = 318.3 K Ohms
>>>>>>
>>>>>318.310K to be more accurate, sir but you are doing very well
>>>>
>>>> Heh... you idiot. That is only LESS accurate. Your original data
>>>> gave R = 3.183... you cannot invent that 318310, as presumable
>>>> "more accurate" than your original number. Your entire problem
>>>> is limited to 3.183, which is four significant digits. Offering
>>>> a claim that "318.31..." is "more accurate" is a crock of shit,
>>>> since it implies five digits of accuracy.
>>>
>>>Temper, temper. If you cannot handle the problem you should ask for help.
>>
>> I'm not the type who finds humor in your ignorance.
>
>You're the one whom failed the problem sir.
Already answered... Sir shit-for-brains.
>>
>>> PI has more than 5 digits of accuracy, sir.
>>
>> When I state 3.14159...
>
>You have over snipped, sir. You appear to be as ignorant on snipping, as you
>are everything else.
I used six digits of accuracy, Sir shit-for-brains. Can't you count?
>
>> Pi, my young student, is no more a constant than a man is a cockroach.
>> pi is only as accurate as your calculator, thus it is not incorrect to
>> show pi as an approximation because that's what it is, no matter how
>> long one writes integers. Nor can one write pi as a quotient of two
>> integers, in exact terms. While your use of 318.310 implies a
>> constant "more accurate" than your original constant, Sir
>> shit-for-brains.
>>
>
>"Pi, my young student, is no more a constant than a man is a cockroach.
>> pi is only as accurate as your calculator"
>
>Nonsense, sir. Pi goes on for as long as there can be new digits calculated.
>and alot of people do not need a calculator to calculate it as you would.
>They spend a finate amount of time on it.
Pi is NOT a constant in any sense of having an absolute value. When
will you ever recognize the difference between rational and irrational
numbers? Pi is only as accurate as the number of digits used, and
it tells you nothing of what the next digit will be.
>"I can't believe you don't know the difference between a rational
> and an irrational number."
>
>You are guessing again, sir.
And yet you continue to show that you don't know the difference.
>>>> And you claim an ability to compute numbers, yet screw up
>>>> the most basic of all mathematical principles... that values
>>>> cannot be obtained having greater significance than the
>>>> significant digits within the mathematical computation.
>>>> Whenever you make a measurement, that measurement
>>>> is only as precise as the original significant digits being
>>>> computed.
>>>>
>>>
>>>" And you claim an ability to compute numbers"
>>>
>>>I made no such claim, sir.
>>
>> That's sad... you now admit you have no ability to compute numbers.
>> Glad we agree with that.
>
>I made no such claim, sir. Lack of a positive does not assert a negative,
>sir.
You admitted elsewhere that you were not "illiterate" (although you
are), but that you suffer from "innumeracy."
>>>> Chee... that's stuff you learn in the 7th grade, or earlier.
>>>
>>>Is that the last time you had any education, sir?
>>
>> We've already been through this, Sir shit-for-brains... See --
>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Maryland.jpg
>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Boston.jpg
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/Transcript.jpg
>>
>
>A lot has changed in 22 years, sir. Of course, it is very easy to fake such
>documents and you appear to have no qualifications relating to electrical
>engineering, sir.
>
And yet I've solved all the problems you presented to me... including
the laughable one where you stated the circuit was resonant, and gave
me XL, and asked me to compute XC, as if there is anything to even
compute given that at resonance XL = XC.
>> See why I accuse you of slander and lies???
>
>You accuse me of a lot of things, sir without knowing anything about me or
>being able to back up your accusations. Of course, I find the irony as
>funnier as that I find that you confuse slander with libel, sir.
Hey... good for you, it seems you looked up the definition. I
always get those two mixed up... especially when someone like
you appear on paper to be screaming out his lies and hate.
>For an "educated" man sir, you truly are stupid.
And yet... there are those eight problems that you have not dared
to even touch.
>> Now where are your educational credentials?
>
>In the bottom draw of the desk in my workshop, sir, where they shall stay. I
>am under no obligation to show them to you, sir.
>
TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. He called
my bluff knowing I'm just a big baby spewing out a lot of hot air,
while having little in the way of any education. I wish I wasn't as
shit-for-brains as he has found me to be so I could show he is not
correct, but the bastard hit the nail right on the head. AGAIN!!"
>>
>>>>>> and --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cutoff frequency = 1/(2 x [pi] x R x c) = 1/(2 x 2.14 x 3.183 x 10^4
>>>>>> x 10^-9) Hz
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thus reducing --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cutoff frequency = 5 x 10^3 Hz = 5 KHz
>>>>>>
>>>>>> at cutoff frequency Xc = R = 3.183 x10^4 ohms = 31.83 K Ohms
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cutoff frequency = -3 db
>>>>>
>>>>>The question did not ask for the cutoff frequency or the db loss at cut
>>>>>of
>>>>>frequency. it Asked for the db loss and phase angled at 500 Cs, sir.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, gee... I must have not RTFQ. I like to solve practical
>>>> problems, and knowing the cutoff frequency is more important
>>>> than the parameters you asked about.
>>>>
>>>
>>>"I must have not RTFQ"
>>>
>>>Indeed, sir.
>>
>> TRANSLATION "Indeed, sir.."
>>
>> I haven't seen you take a stab at any of my questions 2 or 3, Sir
>> shit-for-brains.
>
>That's right sir and there are still three questions you have not answered.
All answered... Sir shit-for-brains. Your turn now.
>>>
>>>You still have not answered your problem, sir.
>>
>> No.
>
>Because you can't, sir.
Wrong... all answered, Sir shit-for-brains. Your turn now.
>>>
>>>"Not only can you not solve it"
>>>
>>>A guess, sir.
>>
>> That's something you haven't even tried in respect to my problems
>> I asked you to solve. While you can't even formulate your problems
>> understandably.
>>
>
>"That's something you haven't even tried in respect to my problems"
>
>That is true, sir. But your problems go deeper that a few numbers, sir.
Not at all... they all have an answer in numbers. But you have to
know how to arrive at those numbers. And that is what is beyond
your meager knowledge of electronics or the mathematics that
is necessary to arrive at answers in electronics circuits. Even the
most basic of data in respect to electronics is based upon
mathematics. Such as I = V/R.
>>>>>Nonsense, sir. Ohms law applies electricity, whether it is DC or AC is
>>>>>irrelevent. As AC is contantly in flux then that has to be taken into
>>>>>account so impedence and phase angle are calculated.
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>>
>>>There was no denial sir. There was only your apology of a response.
>>
>> It doesn't make the denier suddenly speak the truth when it is
>> obvious that he speaks a lie.
>>
>> So your apology is accepted.
>
>No apology was offered, sir.
Sure there was. You're trying to make excuses for your lies. And
in doing so admit you've lied... and thus apologize for having lied.
> You're comments in respect to AC and ohms law
>were wrong but you don't have the backbone to admit it, sir.
No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>>>You have never proved any, sir.
>>
>> I've proved that your comments always show you are --
>>
>>1) acting like a craven coward
>>2) displaying the depressing burden of your exiguous education
>>3) showing your disgusting ignorance
>>4) planting some defamatory slander
>>5) insisting that voices are telling you things that are "unknown"
>>6) sowing your hebephrenic and insensate nature
>>7) expressing your acerbic insolence
>>8) inserting your nefarious antipathy toward humanity
>>9) raving in your lubricous xenophobic hubris
>>10) exhibiting a proclivity for disgraceful buffoonery
>>11) ranting in frenzied and fallacious demagoguery
>>12) revealing your malfaisant racism
>>13) parading a shameful and evil Holocaust denial
>>14) creating a catachrestic destruction of the English language
>>15) flaunting your grotesque and ludicrous catagenetic representation
>>of humans as no better than cockroaches
>>or --
>>16) offering your disingenuous and fraudulent lying
>>etc... etc... etc...
>>
>>Look at all the new words in English you can look up.
>
>No you haven't, sir.
No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>>>
>>>You are an idiot, sir. What do you suppose you use to calculate the
>>>current
>>>through an ac circuit of the voltage across its capacitors or inductors?
>>
>> Kirchoff's law. Not Ohm's law.
>
>Ohm's Law, you imbecile: E=I/Z is Ohm's law, not Kirchoff's! Do your
>research, sir.
E=I/R is Ohm's law, Sir shit-for-brains. See --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohm's_law
Rather there in bold letters -- I = V/R. But now I've got you using
"E."
>>
>>>The Black arts? To calculate current, The formula is I=E/Z and to
>>>calculate
>>>the voltage across an inductor or capacitor the formula is Vl=I*XL and Vc
>>>=
>>>I*XC respectively.
>>
>> I = E/R is Ohm's law.
>
>At last, the penny drops, sir.
Since R is not V except in a DC circuit, Ohm's law applies to DC
circuits and not to resistances that are Z which is impedance,
and appears only in AC circuits.
>> Despite your ignorance of basic electronics, R
>> is not = Z, or = C, or = L. All of which change instantaneously in an
>> AC circuit, while R is a constant, and I and E can be computed using
>> simple arithmetic, and instantaneous AC cannot be computed using
>> simple arithmetic.
>>
>
>You moron, sir. Z=impedence,
Correct... Z is not = R.
> E IS EMF and I is current. Get an education, sir.
I'm still old school, and we always referred to voltage as E. I admit
that is a mistake. It results from an old four word rhyme to
remember how inductive and capacitive impedance work. The
rhyme was ELI THE ICE MAN. And in that rhyme one can then
devise that "voltage (E) leads current (I) (ELI) in inductive
impedance, while current (I) leads voltage (E) (ICE) in capacitive
impedance."
Of course Voltage now has the standard of V as its representation,
just as "cycles per second" has the standard of Hz as its
representation. But there is still evidence of E being used
to represent Voltage. On circuit schematics, E is shown as the
voltage across batteries, or generators, (the voltage out of those
devices), while V is shown across all other devices such as resistors,
etc.
You see how easy it is to admit mistakes? Now if we could only
get you to recognize even 1 out of every 100 mistakes you make.
But then you wouldn't be "hard-headed," would you???
>>>"AC circuits are much more complicated than DC circuits"
>>>
>>>That is something else, we agree on, sir.
>>>
>>>"You couldn't solve even the easiest of differential equations."
>>>
>>>You are guessing, sir.
>>
>> I've already given you the easiest of differential equations.
>
>No, sir. The easiest of differential equations include Y=X, Y=1 or Y=X^2
>sir.
>They are examples of the "easiest", sir.
Rubbish. Now of those presumed identities are part of any
differential equation.
>
>"You have no idea how to even approach a solution. "
>
>You are guessing again, sir.
And yet I've already given you the easiest of differential equations.
>
>>
>>>> Kirchoff's law examines "nodes." Because the sum of the current
>>>> flowing into any node must equal the sum of the current flowing out of
>>>> any node. Both in steady DC and in instantaneous AC current, which
>>>> changes depending upon the frequency and other factors, but always
>>>> remains instantaneously the sum of the current flowing into that node
>>>> equaling the sum of the current flowing out of that node.
>>>
>>>You should reference a text you copy information from or it's plagiarism,
>>>sir.
>>
>> ROTFLMAO. This is common knowledge within all textbooks that
>> examine Kirchoff's law.
>
>There's more to it than that, sir. of course, your feeble attempt at mockery
>does not diprove you copied that cite without referencing, sir.
>
>
>"> It is not plagiarism to relate a scientific fact."
>
>It is if you cite one without refrencing it, sir.
Wrong!!! I can't even begin to relate how many scientific papers
are written using Newton's laws without the mention of Newton!
>> The only thing you can argue are that my FACTS are wrong... and you
>> know you can't do that.
>
>They aren't your facts, sir.
When I show them to you as proof of my arguments they represent
my facts proving my arguments. While all I have from you is
mumbles, whining, sobbing hysterically while curled up in the
fetal position, lies, hate, ignorance and mindless drivel.
>
>>>>>
>>>>>Very longwinded, sir. The correct formula is radians = degrees*pi/180
>>>>>Of course you would have spotted that a complete circle is 2pi.
>>>>
>>>> That's exactly what I wrote, shit-for-brains. Other than I use
>>>> 2.14159... an approximation for pi. Here it is again --
>>>
>>>No, sir you wrote.
>>
>> And what I wrote was as accurate as yours since pi is an irrational
>> number, and cannot be expressed as a constant.. obviously. While
>> we don't concern ourselves with degrees that have more than 6
>> digits of accuracy. In fact, degrees in general only have at most
>> three digits of accuracy, at which point further accuracy is usually
>> stated in minutes, and seconds. Each degree being split up into 60
>> minutes, and each minute being split up into 60 seconds.
>
>"And what I wrote was as accurate as yours since pi is an irrational
>> number"
>
>You cannot state that Pi suddently starts with 2 any more than you can
>declare the last three digits, sir.
Aw... Death Disco caught me in a typo... Good grief... if I had a
nickel for every typo from him it would be like winning the
lottery.
>>>> rad = degrees x (2.14159... /180)
>>>>
>>>> See it right above the list of various radians at degrees?
>>>
>>>the formula for converting degrees to radians is Radians=degrees*pi/180,
>>>sir. That is not what you wrote.
>>
>> See the three dots following 2.14159...? That means in standard
>> mathematics that this is an approximation. And it is a completely
>> accurate approximation. We're not sending a rocket to Mars, Sir
>> shit-for-brains. And you cannot possibly argue that pi is a
>> constant. While I clearly showed the various important degrees
>> in pi.
>>
>
>
>Pi starts with a 3, sir.
Awww.... death disco caught me in a typo.
>>>"I've been retired longer than you've been living."
>>>
>>>You're guessing, sir.
>>
>> And yet you've offered nothing that would refute my guess.
>
>You've offered nothing to back your guess up, sir.
>
Well, I retired on 23 April 1993. I doubt seriously you are over
the age of 17. But I'm sure that you'll put on your fascist
uniform and insist I am not _allowed to think_, Herr
Sturmbannf�hrer Disco.
>> But
>> even the thought that you are older than me, and have yet learned
>> so little of life, sends shivers up my spine.
>
>I have already stated that I am younger than you, sir.
>Your words were: "I've been retired longer than you've been living."
>How old were you when you retired sir?
>
How old are you??? Since you never answer my questions,
why do you think I should answer yours until you answer even
one of mine?
>>
>>>> [1] see bottom of post.
>>>>>
>>>>>It was feeble sir. You got as far as working out the capacitive
>>>>>reactance.
>>>>>then you went off at a tangent.
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>>
>>>There was no denial, sir. You mucked it up.
>>
>> It doesn't make the denier suddenly speak the truth when it is
>> obvious that he speaks a lie. That seems to be your implication.
>>
>
>You mucked it up, sir.
TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
I wasn't what he found me to be so I could show he is not correct,
but the bastard hit the nail right on the head."
>>>
>>>" knowledgeable when you're not"
>>>
>>>You're guessing, sir.
>>
>> And yet you've offered nothing that would disprove my comment.
>
>You've offered nothing to back your guess up, sir.
Heh... Am I supposed to give you a fascist salute in responding to
your "order" that I am not _allowed to think_, Herr Sturmbannf�hrer
Disco? You fit perfectly in that fascist outfit.
>>>" All in all you screwed it up pretty badly. "
>>>
>>>It that is what you call screwing up pretty badly then you need a life
>>>sir.
>>>Typographical errors are only a bad screwing when you are writing a paper
>>>on English language sir.
>>
>> "Education is the best provision for the journey to old age." --
>> Aristotle.
>
>Who mentioned education, sir? We were talking of typographical errors, sir.
>
A "typo" is the exchange on ONE LETTER of the alphabet for ANOTHER
when typing. Changing words, or changing meaning, or grammatical
mistakes, are NOT considered typos, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>>On newsgroups it's minor at worst and only used as
>>>ammunition for imbeciles like you whom can't win their arguments any other
>>>way. I am still waiting for your answer to the very SIMPLE problem I gave
>>>you.
>>
>> Heh... More ad hominem to cover up your lack of a proper
>> education. See --
>> http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/logic.html#hominem
>
>Your avoidence of the problem is noted, sir. You are too great a coward to
>admit that you cannot do it, sir.
>
And yet you have the answers to your simplistic and ill-conceived and
badly distorted questions, while I still wait for even one answer from
you.
>>>
>>>> "We're examining YOUR expertise, since you're the one blowing your
>>>> horn about --
>>>>
>>>> "I'll bet you don't know what bayes theorum, linear regression mean,
>>>> and I suspect you do not know the magic number in the plume encryption
>>>> algorythm."
>>>>
>>>> See the quotation marks, shit-for-brains?? What makes you think I'd
>>>> be as dumb as you and not know how to spell "theorem," and
>>>> "algorithm"?
>>>>
>>>> There has seldom been a poster to AADP who is more in need of a spell
>>>> checker than you, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>>>
>>>
>>>As I said, sir, "Typographical errors are only a bad screwing when you are
>>>writing a paper on English language sir. On newsgroups it's minor at worst
>>>and only used as ammunition for imbeciles like you whom can't win their
>>>arguments any other way".
>>
>> "Education is the best provision for the journey to old age." --
>> Aristotle.
>
>Who mentioned education, sir? We were talking of typographical errors, sir.
>
A "typo" is the exchange on ONE LETTER of the alphabet for ANOTHER
when typing. Changing words, or changing meaning, or grammatical
mistakes, are NOT considered typos, Sir shit-for-brains.
>
>>>Perhaps you should invest in a Thesaurus, sir.
>>
>
>" I already have more of them then I need "
>
>Well try using them from time to time, sir.
>
Generally I don't need one, since I know quite a few different words
that mean about the same thing, but have a slightly different shading.
But it is enough to mention that you have offered Holocaust
denial to put you in your place.
>>>>
>>>> Heh... the penny drops... And Death Disco is speechless.
>>>
>>>Wishful thinking on your part, sir.
>>
>> And yet that's all you have to say.
>.
>Which is not "speechless", sir. You screwed it up again, sir.
"Mindless drivel" is nothing but demonstrating you are "speechless."
>>>> No you didn't.
>>>
>>>Yes I did, sir.
>>
>> No you didn't, Sir shit-a-lot.
>
>Yes I did, sir.
NO you didn't, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>>>>> If that question was too complicated for you I'll give you an easier
>>>>>> one. Since you seem to claim familiarity with differential
>>>>>> equations... solve this one. Understand that this is the EASIEST
>>>>>> of all differential equation to solve, and is used over and over in
>>>>>> solving motion equations related to gravitation -- This one should
>>>>>> be a snap for you --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Solve the differential equation d�x/dt� = -g
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With initial conditions x(0) = x(sub o) and v(0) = v(sub o)
>>>>
>>>> Heh.. got you going, eh? Gee... my boy... this solution is probably
>>>> all over the net. It's a very general differential equation with no
>>>> numbers involved... those numbers which always confuse you.
>>>>
>>>
>>>"Heh.. got you going, eh?"
>>>Wishful thinking on your part, sir.
>>
>> Heh heh... and yet not even an attempt. My goodness, DD... it's
>> the SIMPLEST differential equation I know of.
>
>It is sir. Then I suggest you learn differential calculus, sir.
>
"Differential calculus" is a broad subject, sport. You consider it
nothing but finding a derivative... called "differentiation." It is
hardly difficult knowing only the Cartesian coordinate system to
determine the slope of a line at a point using the tangent to
that point that is determined by approaching that point as
close as the infinitesimal limit.
That minor part of the basics of "the Differential Calculus,"
does not touch upon solving "differential equations." Differential
equations relate functions of more than one variable to their
partial derivatives. I doubt you even can comprehend such a
concept, or how to approach solving a partial differential
equation.
>>
>>>You still have not answered your problem, sir. I have noted your repeated
>>>efforts to avoid it.
>>
>> I don't have time for your bullshit,
>
>Your lack of backbone to admit that it is beyond you has been noted, sir.
>
And yet I found the time. Now when will we see anything but
jelly for your backbone???
>>>> You can't even pose your questions accurately. But let's take a quick
>>>> stab at it --
>>>
>>>"You can't even pose your questions accurately"
>>>Yes I can, sir. We shall see what your answer brings.
>>
>> "You just admitted you can't."
>
>No I didn't, sir.
>
>You said integration... I ignored it
>
>I noticed that, sir, but did you know I was meaning to type "differentiate",
>sir?
That's NOT a "typo," Sir shit-for-brains.
>
>> because it made no sense... you realized it made no sense... you
>> admitted you didn't pose your question accurately. Chee... what
>> else do you want when I have your CONFESSION???
>
>That was after the above comment, sir. Please pay attention.
And yet we already have your CONFESSION.
>>>> V=pi*R�*H = 1050 cm�
>>>>
>>>> with R being the radius and H being the height
>>>>
>>>> so H = 1050/(pi)*R�
>>>>
>>>> The surface area, including ends is --
>>>>
>>>> S=2*(pi)R*H + 2*(pi)*R�
>>>>
>>>> Substituting for H --
>>>>
>>>> S=2*1050/R + 2*(pi)*R�
>>>>
>>>> Setting dS/dR = 0 and solving the differential equation for R the
>>>> answer is (V/2*(pi))^1/3 = R
>>>>
>>>> Reducing --> R=(1050/2*(pi))^1/3 = 5.508 cm
>>>>
>>>> Now that we have R, we can solve for H
>>>>
>>>> H=1050/(pi*)*R� = 11.017 cm
>>>>
>>>> Thus the closed cylinder has maximum surface area using minimum
>>>> material at :
>>>>
>>>> Radius = 5.508 cm
>>>> Height = 11.017 cm
>>>>
>>>> V = (pi)*5.508�*11.017 = 1050 cm�
>>>>
>>>
>>>Impressive, sir. Your answer is correct.
>>
>> No, shit... Dick Tracy...
>
>You do not handle praise very well, sir. I suppose that's because you never
>get any.
>
Praise from Holocaust deniers like you means nothing to me. Now
answer my questions... or just one of them.
>>now when can we expect you to answer either
>> of my questions, after fucking up the answer
>
>Language, sir. I did sir. Nevertheless, I corrected. It is fortunate I was
>not submitting it to anyone whose opinion matters. However, I am still
>waiting to see you answer the simple problem I set for you. What was the
>expression you used? "Overly complicated"
Overly stupid... is the correct term.
>>to a very, very, trivial
>> question regarding resonance.
>
>As is this one, sir
>
>Given you have a low pass filter with a resistor of 31830 ohms, and a
>capacitor of 1 Nano Farad. at frequency of 500 Cs what is the DB loss and
>the phase angle? You will have to work out the reactance first, sir.
Already answered. Sir shit-for-brains. Now it's your turn.
>"> So when you claimed that my approximation of pi was incorrect you
>"> were full of shit.
>
>Is that your proof, sir?
>
Your question has been answered, Sir shit-for-brains. Quit squirming,
and answer one of my questions.
>
>>In this problem, I did use a calculator, rather
>> than pen and paper ... and entered pi symbolically, which provided an
>> approximation dependent upon the range of the calculator I used. There
>> is no such thing as an exact value of pi. They are ALL
>> approximations. Thus my response was exactly as yours... an
>> approximation! pi is an approximation.
>
>Everyone starts Pi with a three, sir... well except for you that is.
Heh... "typo." That's the way a "typo" is defined. When I have
used 3.14159... over and over, and then I type 2.14159..., that's
a typo. When you substitute "integration" for "differentiate,"
that's NOT a typo.
>>> I shall assume it's your own work.
>>
>> You can assume anything you wish, Sir shit-for-brains. It's a free
>> country. You also assume that "something higher than ourselves,"
>> talks to you. Now how about that easy problem with differential
>> equations...
>
>Would you rather I assumed that you copied it from a book, sir?
It's a free country, Sir shit-for-brains... only a fascist would try
to tell you what to assume... you know.... like your fascist demands
that I only assume what YOU want to assume.
>> Solve the differential equation d�x/dt� = -g
>>
>> With initial conditions x(0) = x(sub o) and v(0) = v(sub o)
>>
>> Solve it??? I don't even think you know how to even formulate it
>> correctly! Let's see... first you need to integrate once with
>> respect to "t." How does such a formula LOOK... much less ask you to
>> to solve it. v(t) = ???? Come on, Sir shit-for-brains. You're so
>> smart... what does the right side of that equation even LOOK LIKE???
>> This is high school math. Show me what you got... so you can
>> raise those knuckles that drag on the ground, and start thumping
>> your chest in mindless hubris. --
>>
>> v(t) = ???
>
>You haven't solved this one, yet:
>Given you have a low pass filter with a resistor of 31830 ohms, and a
>capacitor of 1 Nano Farad. at frequency of 500 Cs what is the DB loss and
>the phase angle? You will have to work out the reactance first, sir.
Already solved, Sir shit-for-brains. We're now waiting for you to
solve the above problem. BTW -- You can get any help your little
heart desires... just as long as see your answer.
>> If you can't solve that one... I have nothing to prove. While
>> even if you solve it, it is so simple that I would not even give
>> you credit for solving it. There must be at least 10,000 sites
>> on the Internet giving the proper notation to that next step.
>> You don't answer it, we have determined the level of your
>> education and intellect... and found it sorely lacking.
>>
>
>
>Wrong, sir. You have already stated that there is no point to me solving it.
>However, if you solve this problem
>
>Given you have a low pass filter with a resistor of 31830 ohms, and a
>capacitor of 1 Nano Farad. at frequency of 500 Cs what is the DB loss and
>the phase angle? You will have to work out the reactance first, sir.
Already solved it, Sir shit-for-brains. See my comment from two days
ago.
>I might and I mean, "might" overlook that you screwed up ohms law.
>
It's "Ohm's law," Sir shit-for-brains.
>>>>>Given a three phase unbalanced supply, VL=400V, Z1=30,Z2=50 and Z3=40
>>>>>ohm,
>>>>>calculate phase voltage, Each line current and the power dissapated
>>>>>across each line, sir.
>>>>
>>>> I don't have time for you to throw silly problem after problem at me,
>>>> when you can't solve a very simple differential equation.
>>>
>>>You're guessing sir.
>>
>> I've already given you the easiest of differential equations.
>
>Your puerile attempt to avoid the problem without having the backbone to
>admit it has ben noted, sir.
>
And yet you have from me the answer to your problem... and we now
await your answer to me to my problem.
>>>>I can
>>>> certainly throw problems at you that you have no idea how to even
>>>> approach. Just how simple do you expect the problems I offer must be?
>>>> Perhaps a little bit of algebra is the limit of your education? Beyes'
>>>> Theorem, my ass.
>>>
>>>" certainly throw problems at you that you have no idea how to even
>>>> approach"
>>>
>>>No, you cannot sir.
>>
>> Sure I can, shit-for-brains. I've already thrown three at you that
>> you're afraid to even take a stab at.
>
>
>There's two I've thrown at you which you haven't answered sir. I have a
>third, for you.
>You have a paralell tuned circuit with a resistance of 68 ohm, a resonant
>frequency of 5khz, and an inductor of 145.4 mH. Calculate the capacitance.
>
>That's three each now, sir.
Already answered that one as well, Sir shit-for-brains. That means
you owe me two answers from among the eight questions I posed to
you.
At this point, Death Disco gave up answering any of my responses,
while simply leaving everything in.
Planet Visitor II
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/dictionary.html
All remarks unanswered by Death Disco --
>>
>>> Not when you failed to answer the simple DB problem I
>>>gave you earlier.
>>
>> When you learn how to formulate your problems accurately you'll
>> get better results. Offering mumbo-jumbo only shows your own
>> ignorance.
>
>Your puerile attempt to avoid the problem without having the backbone to
>admit it has ben noted, sir.
Already answered, Sir shit-for-brains. You're starting to sweat now.
>>>"Given you have a low pass filter with a resistor of 31830 ohms, and a
>>>capacitor of 1 Nano Farad. at frequency of 500 Cs what is the DB loss and
>>>the phase angle? You will have to work out the reactance first, sir."
>>
>> Hell... here's one for you that does have a schematic along
>> with the problem. Try to answer this one --
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/circuit.jpg
>>
>
>Answer the problem I gave you sir.
Already answer, Sir shit-for-brains. You're sweating profusely now.
>> But make up your mind... I thought you claimed it was "accurate" to
>> 318310.
>>
Heh... are you claiming it was a "typo"????
>>>> Once again -- how do you even APPROACH a solution to --
"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:i7fo16tpc4pq0dvfm...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 19:10:15 +0100, "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
> wrote:
>
> Hey... Sir shit-for-brains. Did you forget this one??? Here it is
> again.
>
I had previously imagined that you abandoned this thread as you were
obviously out of your depth. Have you been poking around that substantial
bookshelf again, sir?
>>
>>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>news:ah5r06do51ge3jus8...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 20:55:05 +0100, "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally have some spare time to wipe out the wimp...
>>>>
>>>>I look forward to seeing that sir.
>
> Apparently you have a masochist streak in you.
No, sir.
>
>>> I've had more important things to do than wipe the floor with
>>> someone who spends his days playing "dungeons and dragons,"
>>> as you do, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>
>>I am keen to meet the fellow, sir. He must have been asleep, or drunk or
>>both, sir.
>
> So you admit to being asleep, or drunk or both.
Well I have slept, since, sir.
>
>>>>>>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:l2db06hcao304a4bg...@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Mon, 31 May 2010 14:56:34 +0100, "Death Disco"
>>>>>>> <iseer...@pIL.co>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>><snip>
>>>
>>>What's curious is how you managed to tune your tin hat antenna to pick
>>>up voices from "something higher than ourselves." What frequency
>>>is it where you hear those voices from "something higher than
>>>ourselves"?
>>>>" But you're no longer worth my time"
>>>>
>>>>Was perfectly clear, sir. You cannot take time back, you know.
>>>
>>> Your "something higher than ourselves" told you that??
You needed something higher than you to tell you that? Something higher than
you did tell you that, sir and that something higher was me, sir.
>>>>No sir. I was asserting the obvious truth.
>>>
>>>Are you brain-dead??? When you "assert," you are declaring! Even a
>>>trained chimpanzee could understand that, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>>
"Are you brain-dead??? "
A bizarre question, sir, as asking a question to a brain dead person will
give you no answer.
>>I see you are still trying to avoid your own screwups, sir.
>
> I see you are still trying to avoid admitting that a voice from
> "something higher than ourselves," has been talking to you
> personally.
>
It would be pointless to admit to something that never occurred, sir.
>>>>> I haven't yet lost any money betting on your ignorance, Sir
>>>>> shit-for-brains.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>That is because you didn't bet any, sir.
>>>
>>> Wrong, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>
>>Are the bailiffs banging on your door, sir? Hmm? Do they shout through
>>your
>>letter box of that all so very bright home of yours, sir? Are they
>>threatening to take it away from you because you cannot pay your gambling
>>debts, sir. You should give it up, sir. You are no good at it.
>
> I'm racking in the money. But aren't those guys in the white coats
> with the straight jackets banging on your door, Sir
> shit-for-brains?
>
"I'm racking in the money"
Racking? Sir?
>>>>"All people are "special," "
>>>>
>>>>You certainly are, sir.
>>>
>>> All people are "special," even you, you sick in the head racist.
>>
>>You certainly are, sir.
>
> You're especially "special." As humans we need to pity those who are
> mentally unstable, as you are.
>
"You're especially "special." "
How quick witted you are, sir. It only took two attempts before you tried to
copy my logic. Is this because you have none of your own, sir?
>>>>
>>>>Are you bored with your own repetition, sir?
>>>
>>> You mean YOUR repetition, sport...
>>
>>No, sir. I mean, your repetion..
>
> And yet you can't stop lying.
You are guessing, sir.
>
>>>
>>> You're insane...
>>
>>My, dear fellow. Pot, kettle, black.
>
> So you admit you're insane. And insist I'm insane for recognizing
> that you're insane. Finally... a breakthrough!!!
>
"> So you admit you're insane"
No, sir.
>>>>
>>>>Apparently not, sir. There is no dent in my head
>>>
>>> I'll bet you haven't checked carefully in your scalp... look for a
>>> "666" mark.
>>
>>You are a Christian, sir.
>>
>
> No, Sir shit-for-brains... you have me mixed up with your
> Bible-thumping self. After all... I don't claim to hear voices
"No, Sir shit-for-brains"
"... look for a
>>> "666" mark."
A Christian remark, sir. You are a Christian, sir.
> from "something higher than ourselves," as you do.
>
I made no such claim, sir.
>>>>We should remind yourself why you think I'm Dutch sir
>>>
>>> Who's this "we," Sir shit-for-brains?
>>>
>>>>"
>>>>Bet you're Dutch, with a dingleberry hanging from your ass because
>>>>of your unhygienic paedomorphic habits. You're certainly
>>>>not Italian... I am almost mother-tongue fluent in Italian having
>>>>learned most of it before I was 14, and then taking it as my
>>>>minor in college. You're not French... my wife is mother-tongue
>>>>French, born and raised in Paris... so I can do very well in
>>>>the French spoken language, and good enough in the written
>>>>language. You're not German... I spent 20 years in Germany,
>>>>and can keep up a fairly good conversation, because people
>>>>tend to overlook grammatical mistakes in respect to "der" "die"
>>>>"das" gender notation and case endings when speaking, although
>>>>my written German could use a lot of work, for which I do not
>>>>have time, and no longer have the drive I once had. I don't think
>>>>you're Spanish or Portuguese. Nor from the former East bloc.
>>>>And since you mention ...
>>>>
>>>>"
>>>
>>> Man, that was a real logical and convincing observation on my part, if
>>> I do say so myself.
>>
>>You do, sir?
>
> Do you also have a reading disability?? After all, you don't want to
"> Do you also have a reading disability?? "
No, sir; do you?
> wipe that dingleberry away... just think of all the germs you'd be
> "murdering" (sic)... ROTFLMAO. I'll bet you're afraid to even sit,
> in fear you might crush some of those germs.
>
>>>>Cite:
>>>>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>>>>From: Planet Visitor II <hidden to protect privacy>
>>>>Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 00:11:17 -0400
>>>>Local: Thurs, May 27 2010 5:11 am
>>>>Subject: Re: High court rules out life sentences for some juveniles
>>>>
>>>>"I am almost mother-tongue fluent in Italian having
>>>>learned most of it before I was 14, and then taking it as my
>>>>minor in college"
>>>>
>>>>This is your logic for thinking I'm not Italian, sir?
>>>
>>> Well, try me, if you are Italian. Prove it.
>>
>>">>"I am almost mother-tongue fluent in Italian having
>>>>learned most of it before I was 14, and then taking it as my
>>>>minor in college"
>>"
>>
>>How exactly does your comment prove that I am not Italian, sir?
>>
> It proves TO ME that you are not Italian.
How does that prove to YOU that I am not Italian, sir?
>That's
> good enough for me. Are you now invoking one of your
> fascist commands that I am forbidden to "think"???
>
">That's
> good enough for me"
Of course, it is, sir. You have made it obvious that your standards are
lower than everyone else's, sir.
>>>>"You're not French... my wife is mother-tongue
>>>>French, born and raised in Paris... "
>>>>
>>>>This is your logic for thinking I'm not French, sir?
>>>
>>> Well, try me, if you are French. Prove it.
>>
>>How exactly does your comment prove that I am not French, sir?
>>
> It proves TO ME that you are not French. That's
> good enough for me. Are you now invoking one of your
> fascist commands that I am forbidden to "think"???
>
"> It proves TO ME that you are not French"
How does that prove to YOU that I am not French, sir?
"That's> good enough for me. "
Of course, it is, sir. You have made it obvious that your standards are
lower than everyone else's, sir.
>>>>"You're not German... I spent 20 years in Germany,
>>>>and can keep up a fairly good conversation, because people
>>>>tend to overlook grammatical mistakes in respect to "der" "die"
>>>>"das" gender notation and case endings when speaking, although
>>>>my written German could use a lot of work, for which I do not
>>>>have time, and no longer have the drive I once had"
>>>>
>>>>This is your logic for thinking I'm not German, sir?
>>>
>>> Well, try me, if you are German. Prove it.
>>
>>How exactly does your comment prove that I am not German, sir?
>
> It proves TO ME that you are not German. That's
> good enough for me. Are you now invoking one of your
> fascist commands that I am forbidden to "think"???
>
"It proves TO ME that you are not German"
How does that prove to YOU that I am not German, sir?
"That's> good enough for me. "
Of course, it is, sir. You have made it obvious that your standards are
lower than everyone else's, sir.
>>>>You neglected to post your reasoning for believing me Dutch, sir.
>>>
>>> Because I don't speak Dutch, and the Dutch offer quite a
>>> bit of education in the English language.
>>
>>That is your reason for thinking me Dutch, sir? I can see you have not
>>thought this through.
>
> I think everything through, Sir shit-for-brains. I form my opinions
> independent of arguments from the deranged... like you.
"> I think everything through"
Then it is curious that you are so bad at it, sir. I would suggest that you
get more practice but it does not appear to be helping you, sir.
>
>>>>As should you, sir.
>>>
>>> I "remember" quite a bit of events that happened before I was born,
>>
>>No you don't, sir. You was not there.
>
> ROTFLMAO... You mean "were not there." And yet I "remember"
> them. Are you now in your fascist method intending to tell me what
> I can and cannot "remember"? The fact that I "was not there" is
> irrelevant to whether it happened before or after I was born. I
> can "remember" the Kennedy assassination, even though I "was
> not there." "Being there" is irrelevant to what our minds are
> capable of "remembering."
"And yet I "remember"
> them"
No, you do not sir. You WERE not there.
>
>>>>>>I did not, sir.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>>>
>>>>Denying something doesn't automatically make the denier a liar, sir.
>>>>
>>> It doesn't make the denier suddenly speak the truth when it is
>>> obvious that he speaks a lie. That seems to be your implication.
>>
>>Denial proves or disproves nothing, sir.
>
> You seem determined to deny.
In response to your guesses, yes, sir.
>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes you did, you little Holocaust denier.
>>>>
>>>>I did not, sir.
>>>
>>> Yes, you did, Sir shit-for-brains. And you're also a Holocaust
>>> denier... claiming you hear voices.
>>
>>I did not, sir.
>
> Sure you did. You related that "something higher than ourselves"
> had TOLD you that there is "a right to life for all biological life."
> Claiming that it is "murder" to kill any biological life... including
> cockroaches... making each of us a murderer a million, billion times,
> each time we wash our hands. No wonder they call you "the
> unwashed." You're determined to "murder" (sic) as few of those
> germs as possible. If that "something higher than ourselves" didn't
> TELL you there is such a "right to life," how did you come into that
> information? Was it pixies... or the Tooth Fairy... or the Easter
> Bunny... or Santa Claus??? Or was it your "mommy" making
> you say your prayers to that "something higher than ourselves"???
>
"Sure you did"
Sure, I did not, sir.
>>>>>>> Are you now denying those were your words?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No, sir.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then you admit you are a Holocaust denier. Don't think you are?
>>>>> Well, let me ask you... do you "remember" that there was an
>>>>> extermination of six million Jews in the 20th Century???
>>>>
>>>>"Then you admit you are a Holocaust denier"
>>>>
>>>>No sir.
>>>
>>> If you claim you don't "remember" it happening, that is a clear
>>> indication that you "deny" it happening.
>>>
>>
>>Your logic does not follow normal rational reasoning, sir.
>>
> To your deep annoyance, it follows perfect logical reasoning.
> See --
> http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/remember
> Since you are xenophobic toward the "the British."
>
"it follows perfect logical reasoning"
No it does not, sir
> REMEMBER -- "to be able to bring back a piece of information into your
> mind, or to keep a piece of information in your memory"
> Or --
> "to be kept in people's memories because of a particular action or
> quality"
> Or --
> "to hold a special ceremony to honour a past event or someone who has
> died"
>
> There is nothing that argues we cannot "remember" what we did not
> "experience first hand." And we certainly didn't "have to be there"
> to remember something happened.
You remember the information, sir. You remember the news, the newspaper or
the article in the book, sir because you read or saw them on television. You
cannot remember something you did not experience, sir.
>
> But then you've already insisted in your fascist way, that if you
> don't like a definition you just refuse to accept it. But in this
> case you are also INVENTING your own definitions in the English
> language in which you presume to demand that "remember"
> is defined as "only having experienced first hand" what you can
> "remember." How neat that is for the Nazis. Or the neo-Nazis
> of today.
>
>>>>> Yet you fondly "remember" the Greeks. You naughty boy, you.
>>>>
>>>>Only the ones I've met, sir.
>>>
>>> Heh... that must have been a night of debauchery.
>>
>>A night, sir? Nobody goes to Greece for just one night, sir.
>>
>
> Zoommm...... that one flew right over your pointy head.
>
>>
>>>Don't bother sharing the sordid details...
>>
>>I won't, sir.
>>
> Thank you.
You are welcome, sir.
>>
>>
>>> this is a family oriented newsgroup.
>>
>>Since when, sir?
>
> Zooommm...... so did that one.
Are you speeding, sir? Such is not advisable for someone of your advanced
epoch.
>
>>>>>>You claimed that you could, "hear" me, sir.
>>>>>>Any fear that you experience is your own, sir. If you were to be able
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>feel my emotions sir, you would feel my amusement.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>>>
>>>>There was no denial, sir. You responses are getting more random, dear
>>>>fellow.
>>>
>>> Need I point out again --
>>
>>Not if it is your usual gibberish, sir.
>>
> The truth has never been something that you want to see, Sir
> shit-for-brains. You believe you can "invent" your own truth.
>
"The truth has never been something"
That you have ever told, sir.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Shall we wait for you temper tantrum to calm down, sir?
>>>
>>> Heh... as the Dalai Lama noted -- "If a human being never
>>> shows anger, then I think something's wrong. He's not
> right in the brains" See --
>>>http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1993865,00.html
>>
>>Are you planning to re-interpret his word too, sir?
>
> Are you still unable to follow a link, you little liar?? Didn't I
> give you a link to his words? Just as I do with your words
> that indict you as an admitted "murderer" (sic). (I saw you wash
> your hands... you brutal killer, you. What about that "Right to life"
> for those "poor innocent creatures... the germs"?) Have you
> thought about turning yourself in to the authorities and claiming
> "self-defense"??? ROTFLMAO.
>
"Are you still unable to follow a link"
No, sir. I made no claim to being unable to follow the link, sir.
>>>>"I never, ever lie. "
>>>>
>>>>Anothr lie, sir.
>>>
>>> Really, you admit you lied???
>>
>>Yes, sir.
>
> Well then why don't you stop lying?
You first, sir.
>
>>"little boy, "
>>
>>You're guessing again, sir.
>>
>
> And yet there is no evidence that you are not a "little boy, with
> an equally little brain."
There is no evidence that I am either. Just as there is no evidence that
your posted qualifications were not forged, yet there is evidence to suggest
that they are.
>
> Is it also your fascist demand that I "stop guessing"??? Any
> other orders for me, Gruppenf锟絟rer Disco???
Your black shirt needs ironing, sir.
>
>>>>>>"While opinions are like ass holes... everyone has one"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They do sir? So you have only the one opinion. Curious
>>>>>
>>>>> "Opinions." "ass holes." The "s" in English means plural. I don't
>>>>> know what it means in your mother-tongue which is apparently Tigrinya.
>>>>
>>>>" "Opinions." "ass holes." The "s" in English means plural"
>>>>
>>>>"While opinions are like ass holes... everyone has 'one'"
>>>>
>>>>The "one" implies singular, sir.
>>>
>>> "Opinions".... plural. "one".... used as a pronoun... for example ...
>>> the simple English constructed sentence -- "she visited ONE of her
>>> cousins." Notice that she does not have only ONE cousin. Thus
>>> a person does not have only ONE opinion.
>>>
>>> Chee... but you are uneducated.
>>
>>You're guessing again, sir.
>
> Well, you obviously are not educated in the English language in
> respect to the use of plurals.
Your words, sir: "While opinions are like ass holes... everyone has 'one'"
"everyone has 'one'"; indicates a singular, and not a plural, sir.
>
>>>>
>>>>"Heh... I believe you actually looked at a dictionary"
>>>>
>>>>When one is learning a language, it is useful to browse a dictionary of
>>>>that language sir. It is a practice that I reccomend you try.
>>>
>>> Too bad you slept through most of that education. But I think you're
>>> sweating
>>> about now... because I picked the right nation.
>>
>>Your refusal to educate yourself has been noted, sir.
>
> TRANSLATION " Your refusal to educate yourself has been noted, sir."
>
>>>>"Don't blame me for your illiteracy"
>>>>Numeracy, my dear fellow; not literacy.
>>>
>>> The terms are not mutually exclusive, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>
>>So you do not understand the expression, "mutually exclusive", either.
>
> You stupid, stupid child. The term "mutually exclusive" means
> that both events cannot occur at the same time. The two events
> in question in this argument are --
> 1) Your illiteracy.
> 2) Your inability to understand numeracy.
>
"You stupid, stupid child"
You are guessing, sir.
> I said that they are NOT "mutually exclusive," you implied that they
> ARE "mutually exclusive." "Mutually exclusive" is a term that I am
> quite familiar with, since logic circuits often use it. Such circuits
> are called XOR gates. See --
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XOR_gate
>
"I said that they are NOT "mutually exclusive,""
Yes, sir and I replied, So you do not understand the expression, "mutually
exclusive", either.
>>>>
>>>>There was no denial sir. Your confusion is increasing.
>>>
>>> Don't you ever get tired of repeating the same mindless drivel?
>>
>>Do you, sir?
>
> Given that I only repeat your "mindless drivel" why would I
> get tired of it?
>
>>
"Given that I only repeat your "mindless drivel""
No, sir; you only ever repeat yours.
>>>>""No sir. You were the one whom (sic) "fucked
>>>>> up" lightspeed, sir."
>>>>
>>>>You did, sir. you claimed it was 300,000,000 M/s.
>>>
>>> No, Sir shit-for-brains... I said "presuming the velocity of light is
>>> exactly 300,000,000 meters/per second."
>>
>>But it isn't, sir.
>
> So what? The velocity of light is only a constant in a vacuum.
> Scientists have slowed down light to a crawl when going through
> various mediums. The question did not ask for the "speed
> of light in a vacuum." It asked to PRESUME the velocity of light
> is exactly 300,000,000 meters/ per second. Apparently you admit
> you can't follow directions.
> http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/15-11/st_alphageek
>
"So what? "
Therefore, you got it wrong, sir.
>>
>>"The question was posed to not use a calculator or references"
>>
>>That is not your decision, sir.
>>
> Rubbish... every question is based upon certain parameters, including
> what can be used in solving the question.
>
"Rubbish"
You are incorrect again, sir.
>>> Good grief... it's so difficult for me to deal with the juvenile
>>> uneducated.
>>>
>>
>>Looking the in mirror must be a real problem for you then, sir.
>
> Too bad you have such terrible problems in the English language.
> "Looking the in mirror"??? What is that supposed to mean?
"Too bad you have such terrible problems in the English language"
Hardly, sir; you've been using the English language for around 70 years
whereas I've been speaking it for around a fifth of a century and I still
have a greater mastery of it than you do, sir.
>
>>> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
>>> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
>>> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>>
>>"Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole?"
>>
>>To respond to them, sir.
>
> You don't need to repeat them to respond to them, Sir shit-for-brains.
> Respond to them as you read them.
>
"You don't need to repeat them to respond to them"
Yes, I do sir or as you have demonstrated previously; you get confused
regarding what part of your paragraph I am responding to.
>>>>That you didn't spot my quarter wave mistake or pinpoint where my first
>>>>mistake was wrong? Yes sir. That is very strange.
>>>
>>> I'm very forgiving of your basic ignorance.
>>
>>I am less forgiving of yours.
>
> That's because there is nothing to forgive.
Your ignorance is beyond forgiveness, sir.
>
>>>
>>>>>>I have built one in a while. What
>>>>>>about you, sir? When did you last build one?
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL..." I have built one in a while," too. You ignorant child. Are
>>>>> you also this stupid in your mother tongue? Don't lie now.
>>>>
>>>>I shall take that as a "Never". shall I ,sir.
>>>
>>> Since the word "never" does not appear in my comment,
>>
>>You avoided the question, sir.
>>
> You presumed to create a word that is not within my comment.
> Further, I was making a mockery of your comment by mimicking
> your exact words which made no sense whatsoever. Those words
> of yours were "I have built one in a while." What the hell is
> that supposed to mean?
>
The question was, "when did you last build one, sir?"
>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"I'm not the authority. I'm the messenger"
>>>>
>>>>You are neither, sir.
>>>
>>> But you implied I was the "authority" behind my argument, when it's
>>> obvious that the AUTHORITY is "Bureau International des Poids et
>>> Mesures. The International System of Units - le Syst锟絤e international
>>> d'unit锟絪." That is... a lesser authority to those voices you hear
>>> from "something higher than ourselves." He he he he he. You
>>> psychotic fruitcake. Tell me again how you know more than the
>>> Bureau International des Poids et Mesures. The International System
>>> of Units - le Syst锟絤e international d'unit锟絪.
>>>
>>
>>"But you implied "
>>
>>No I didn't, sir.
>>
> Right... you stated an outright distortion of the facts. I never
> claimed to be the "authority" behind my argument, while you
> lied and claimed that I have no "right" to quote an "authority"
> to justify my argument. In other words, you're not interested
> in the truth... you just believe yourself to be more qualified
> than the " "Bureau International des Poids et Mesures. The
> International System of Units - le Syst锟絤e international
> d'unit锟絪." But given that you also claim you are the "authority"
> behind an Easter Bunny claim that there is "a right to life for
> all biological life... including cockroaches and other vermin,
> bacteria and viruses," it's clear just how delusional your
"Right"
> belief in your own "authority" actually is.
>>
>>>>You have read them all in this small time, sir?
>>>
>>> I'm a fast reader.
>>
>>You would have to be the fastest reader on the planet, sir.
>
> I've had a lot of time.
An awful lot of time, sir; no time for work or putting that knowledge in
those books to use. Do you use it sir? Do you even just regurgitate it sir?
Or do you just read it and store the knowledge where it can do no good. I
cannot imagine a more pointless use or I should say 'misuse' of a library.
>
>>> Can't do it, can you???
>>
>>
>>Can't do what, sir?
>>
>
> Handle the truth.
I am still looking forward to you telling some truth for a change, sir.
>
>>
>>>Yet I've provided cite after cite showing
>>> Hz being the recognized standard for "cycles per second."
>>>
>>
>>
>>If you had read your books sir, you would see that cs and c/s are also
>>used.
>
> Guess what? -- An assertion lacking a referenced cite is
> inadmissible
Then you have not read your books, sir. You stack them on your shelves
preventing anyone else from reading them.
.
>
>>> You're one hard-headed piece of work, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>
>>Thank you, sir.
>
> You're welcome... always glad to help the retarded deal with their
> problem.
There is no problem, sir.
>
>>>>>>You haven't answered the problem I gave you, yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nor have you. I could give you a multitude of problems that you
>>>>> could not even attempt to solve, sport.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>>>>
>>>>Yes I have, sir. I am still waiting for your solution if you can offer
>>>>one.
>>>
>>> No, problem.... See -
>>> http://www.bipm.org/en/si/si_brochure/chapter5/5-2.html
>>
>>That does not answer the question, sir. You have avoided it yet again.
>>
> Now that you admit you are mistaken about C/S, Cs, or whatever the
> fuck you want to call it to avoid recognizing it as Hz, I have already
> answered all your questions in my previous post.
>>>
"Now that you admit you are mistaken about C/S, Cs,"
To do so would be a lie, sir.
"or whatever the
> fuck you want to call"
Your ignorance is noted sir, as is you further attempt in avoiding the
question.
>>>
>>> I did find the answer in a very concise reference in my library titled
>>> the "Standard Handbook for Electrical Engineers." About 2000 pages
>>> deep, edited by Donald G Fink (look him up), published by McGraw Hill,
>>> with ISBN 0-07-020973-1.
>>
>>" About 2000 pages deep"
>>
>>2304 to be exact, sir.
>
> You counted THEM??? Mine doesn't have the pages numbered. It
> just has the sections numbered. You spent all your time COUNTING
> the pages??? Don't you have anything better to do?
>
" You counted THEM??? "
No, you silly person. I looked the book up on Amazon.
>>>Go to your library and ask them for it.
>>> Then go to page 1-9... Systems of Measurement. And you will see
>>> that Frequency is measured in Hz.
>>
>>Are those the only pages you looked at in the entire book, sir?
>
> It is the page that references the STANDARD System of measurements,
> Sir shit-for-brains. And nowhere in that book does the term C/S, or
> Cs appear.
I'll take that as a "yes", sir.
>
>>> And yet I can find no reference to "Cs is the standard for cycles per
>>> second." In fact every reference states that "Hz is the standard
>>> for cycles per second."
>>
>>If that book is any good then it should contain the formulas to answer
>>those
>>little problems I gave you. Maybe you should try buying a copy and reading
>>it, sir.
>
> Your problems have already been answered. Now when can I expect you
> to answer even ONE of the eight new problems I've posed to you???
"Your problems have already been answered."
Not by you, they have not sir.
"to answer even ONE of the eight new problems I've posed to you???"
Eight, sir? Then I shall pose eight for you in turn, sir.
>Now when can I expect you
> to answer even ONE of the eight new problems I've posed to you???
>
I'm still waiting for you to answer that first question I posed for you,
sir.
Your answer was incorrect, sir.
>>>
>>>> PI has more than 5 digits of accuracy, sir.
>>>
>>> When I state 3.14159...
>>
>>You have over snipped, sir. You appear to be as ignorant on snipping, as
>>you
>>are everything else.
>
> I used six digits of accuracy, Sir shit-for-brains. Can't you count?
Yes, sir and I can tell the difference between two and three, sir; unlike
you apparently.
>>
>>> Pi, my young student, is no more a constant than a man is a cockroach.
>>> pi is only as accurate as your calculator, thus it is not incorrect to
>>> show pi as an approximation because that's what it is, no matter how
>>> long one writes integers. Nor can one write pi as a quotient of two
>>> integers, in exact terms. While your use of 318.310 implies a
>>> constant "more accurate" than your original constant, Sir
>>> shit-for-brains.
>>>
>>
>>"Pi, my young student, is no more a constant than a man is a cockroach.
>>> pi is only as accurate as your calculator"
>>
>>Nonsense, sir. Pi goes on for as long as there can be new digits
>>calculated.
>>and alot of people do not need a calculator to calculate it as you would.
>>They spend a finate amount of time on it.
>
> Pi is NOT a constant in any sense of having an absolute value. When
> will you ever recognize the difference between rational and irrational
> numbers? Pi is only as accurate as the number of digits used, and
> it tells you nothing of what the next digit will be.
"Pi is NOT a constant in any sense of having an absolute value"
Wrong, sir; PI is calculated and when a new digit is found it becomes
constant.
>
>>"I can't believe you don't know the difference between a rational
>> and an irrational number."
>>
>>You are guessing again, sir.
>
> And yet you continue to show that you don't know the difference.
I show no such thing, sir.
>
>>>>> And you claim an ability to compute numbers, yet screw up
>>>>> the most basic of all mathematical principles... that values
>>>>> cannot be obtained having greater significance than the
>>>>> significant digits within the mathematical computation.
>>>>> Whenever you make a measurement, that measurement
>>>>> is only as precise as the original significant digits being
>>>>> computed.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>" And you claim an ability to compute numbers"
>>>>
>>>>I made no such claim, sir.
>>>
>>> That's sad... you now admit you have no ability to compute numbers.
>>> Glad we agree with that.
>>
>>I made no such claim, sir. Lack of a positive does not assert a negative,
>>sir.
>
> You admitted elsewhere that you were not "illiterate" (although you
> are), but that you suffer from "innumeracy."
"although you
> are"
I see you do not know the meaning of, "illiterate" either, sir.
"but that you suffer from "innumeracy.""
No, sir
>
>>>>> Chee... that's stuff you learn in the 7th grade, or earlier.
>>>>
>>>>Is that the last time you had any education, sir?
>>>
>>> We've already been through this, Sir shit-for-brains... See --
>>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Maryland.jpg
>>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Boston.jpg
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/Transcript.jpg
>>>
>>
>>A lot has changed in 22 years, sir. Of course, it is very easy to fake
>>such
>>documents and you appear to have no qualifications relating to electrical
>>engineering, sir.
>>
> And yet I've solved all the problems you presented to me...
No you haven't, sir.
including
> the laughable one where you stated the circuit was resonant, and gave
> me XL, and asked me to compute XC, as if there is anything to even
> compute given that at resonance XL = XC.
Yes, sir; you solved the easiest one; sir, and I bet you want a cookie for
it. Such a law is printed in most relevant texts. It is a pity that you do
not know what it actually means, sir.
>
>>> See why I accuse you of slander and lies???
>>
>>You accuse me of a lot of things, sir without knowing anything about me or
>>being able to back up your accusations. Of course, I find the irony as
>>funnier as that I find that you confuse slander with libel, sir.
>
> Hey... good for you, it seems you looked up the definition. I
> always get those two mixed up... especially when someone like
> you appear on paper to be screaming out his lies and hate.
>
"good for you, it seems you looked up the definition"
Yes, sir; It's good practice. Maybe you should try it, sir.
>>For an "educated" man sir, you truly are stupid.
>
> And yet... there are those eight problems that you have not dared
> to even touch.
>
They are waiting in the queue right behind the ones I've posed for you, sir.
You have two correct so far.
>>> Now where are your educational credentials?
>>
>>In the bottom draw of the desk in my workshop, sir, where they shall stay.
>>I
>>am under no obligation to show them to you, sir.
>>
>
> TRANSLATION " In the bottom draw of the desk in my workshop, sir, where
> they shall stay. I
>>am under no obligation to show them to you, sir."
>
>>>
>>>>>>> and --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cutoff frequency = 1/(2 x [pi] x R x c) = 1/(2 x 2.14 x 3.183 x
>>>>>>> 10^4
>>>>>>> x 10^-9) Hz
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thus reducing --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cutoff frequency = 5 x 10^3 Hz = 5 KHz
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> at cutoff frequency Xc = R = 3.183 x10^4 ohms = 31.83 K Ohms
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cutoff frequency = -3 db
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The question did not ask for the cutoff frequency or the db loss at
>>>>>>cut
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>frequency. it Asked for the db loss and phase angled at 500 Cs, sir.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, gee... I must have not RTFQ. I like to solve practical
>>>>> problems, and knowing the cutoff frequency is more important
>>>>> than the parameters you asked about.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"I must have not RTFQ"
>>>>
>>>>Indeed, sir.
>>>
>>> TRANSLATION "Indeed, sir.."
>>>
>>> I haven't seen you take a stab at any of my questions 2 or 3, Sir
>>> shit-for-brains.
>>
>>That's right sir and there are still three questions you have not
>>answered.
>
> All answered... Sir shit-for-brains. Your turn now.
No they are not, sir.
>
>>>>
>>>>You still have not answered your problem, sir.
>>>
>>> No.
>>
>>Because you can't, sir.
>
> Wrong... all answered, Sir shit-for-brains. Your turn now.
No you did not, sir.
>
>>>>
>>>>"Not only can you not solve it"
>>>>
>>>>A guess, sir.
>>>
>>> That's something you haven't even tried in respect to my problems
>>> I asked you to solve. While you can't even formulate your problems
>>> understandably.
>>>
>>
>>"That's something you haven't even tried in respect to my problems"
>>
>>That is true, sir. But your problems go deeper that a few numbers, sir.
>
> Not at all... they all have an answer in numbers. But you have to
> know how to arrive at those numbers. And that is what is beyond
> your meager knowledge of electronics or the mathematics that
> is necessary to arrive at answers in electronics circuits. Even the
> most basic of data in respect to electronics is based upon
> mathematics. Such as I = V/R.
>
"Not at all"
Very much so, sir.
>>>>>>Nonsense, sir. Ohms law applies electricity, whether it is DC or AC is
>>>>>>irrelevent. As AC is contantly in flux then that has to be taken into
>>>>>>account so impedence and phase angle are calculated.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>>>
>>>>There was no denial sir. There was only your apology of a response.
>>>
>>> It doesn't make the denier suddenly speak the truth when it is
>>> obvious that he speaks a lie.
>>>
>>> So your apology is accepted.
>>
>>No apology was offered, sir.
>
> Sure there was. You're trying to make excuses for your lies. And
> in doing so admit you've lied... and thus apologize for having lied.
>
"Sure there was"
Sure there was not, sir.
>> You're comments in respect to AC and ohms law
>>were wrong but you don't have the backbone to admit it, sir.
>
> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
An unreferenced cite is inadmissible
>>>
>>>Look at all the new words in English you can look up.
>>
>>No you haven't, sir.
>
> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
An unreferenced cite is inadmissible
>
>>>>
>>>>You are an idiot, sir. What do you suppose you use to calculate the
>>>>current
>>>>through an ac circuit of the voltage across its capacitors or inductors?
>>>
>>> Kirchoff's law. Not Ohm's law.
>>
>>Ohm's Law, you imbecile: E=I/Z is Ohm's law, not Kirchoff's! Do your
>>research, sir.
>
> E=I/R is Ohm's law, Sir shit-for-brains. See --
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohm's_law
> Rather there in bold letters -- I = V/R. But now I've got you using
> "E."
>
Z is impedance, you imbecile. It is measured in ohms and follows ohms law in
relation to resistance, sir. Do your research, sir.
But now I've got you using
> "E."
No, you have not, sir. E stands for EMF and I was using it when you were
still forging your computing degree papers, sir.
>>>
>>>>The Black arts? To calculate current, The formula is I=E/Z and to
>>>>calculate
>>>>the voltage across an inductor or capacitor the formula is Vl=I*XL and
>>>>Vc
>>>>=
>>>>I*XC respectively.
>>>
>>> I = E/R is Ohm's law.
>>
>>At last, the penny drops, sir.
>
> Since R is not V except in a DC circuit, Ohm's law applies to DC
> circuits and not to resistances that are Z which is impedance,
> and appears only in AC circuits.
Z is impedance sir and follows ohms law. Of course, you have to factor in
phases differences and periodic time but ohms law still applies, sir.
>
>>> Despite your ignorance of basic electronics, R
>>> is not = Z, or = C, or = L. All of which change instantaneously in an
>>> AC circuit, while R is a constant, and I and E can be computed using
>>> simple arithmetic, and instantaneous AC cannot be computed using
>>> simple arithmetic.
>>>
>>
>>You moron, sir. Z=impedence,
>
> Correct... Z is not = R.
Both are measured in OHMS, sir. Both follow ohms law, sir.
>
>> E IS EMF and I is current. Get an education, sir.
>
> I'm still old school, and we always referred to voltage as E.
E is still the symbol for EMF, sir but the units themselves are measured in
Volts, sir.
>I admit
> that is a mistake. It results from an old four word rhyme to
> remember how inductive and capacitive impedance work. The
> rhyme was ELI THE ICE MAN. And in that rhyme one can then
> devise that "voltage (E) leads current (I) (ELI) in inductive
> impedance, while current (I) leads voltage (E) (ICE) in capacitive
> impedance."
>
> Of course Voltage now has the standard of V as its representation,
> just as "cycles per second" has the standard of Hz as its
> representation. But there is still evidence of E being used
> to represent Voltage. On circuit schematics, E is shown as the
> voltage across batteries, or generators, (the voltage out of those
> devices), while V is shown across all other devices such as resistors,
> etc.
>
"Voltage now has the standard of V"
No sir; Voltage is still represented by E at source and V where measuring
potential rather than source, sir.
> You see how easy it is to admit mistakes? Now if we could only
> get you to recognize even 1 out of every 100 mistakes you make.
> But then you wouldn't be "hard-headed," would you???
>
"You see how easy it is to admit mistakes? "
It's good to see you admitting one for a change even though that was one
time where you did not make a mistake. I love the irony, sir. You admit to a
mistake you did not make yet fail to admit to countless one you did make.
>>>>"AC circuits are much more complicated than DC circuits"
>>>>
>>>>That is something else, we agree on, sir.
>>>>
>>>>"You couldn't solve even the easiest of differential equations."
>>>>
>>>>You are guessing, sir.
>>>
>>> I've already given you the easiest of differential equations.
>>
>>No, sir. The easiest of differential equations include Y=X, Y=1 or Y=X^2
>>sir.
>>They are examples of the "easiest", sir.
>
> Rubbish. Now of those presumed identities are part of any
> differential equation.
They are all differential equations sir. in the first one, dy/dx=1, in the
second, dy/dx=0 in the final one, dy/dx=2X, sir. They are examples of the
simplest differential equations. Anyone who has ever studied differential
calculus would have recognised those, sir. It is curious that you did not,
sir.
>>
>>"You have no idea how to even approach a solution. "
>>
>>You are guessing again, sir.
>
> And yet I've already given you the easiest of differential equations.
No, sir; I have given you the easiest, and you failed to recognise them. I
wonder if you'd have the same problem with integration, sir.
>>
>>>
>>>>> Kirchoff's law examines "nodes." Because the sum of the current
>>>>> flowing into any node must equal the sum of the current flowing out of
>>>>> any node. Both in steady DC and in instantaneous AC current, which
>>>>> changes depending upon the frequency and other factors, but always
>>>>> remains instantaneously the sum of the current flowing into that node
>>>>> equaling the sum of the current flowing out of that node.
>>>>
>>>>You should reference a text you copy information from or it's
>>>>plagiarism,
>>>>sir.
>>>
>>> ROTFLMAO. This is common knowledge within all textbooks that
>>> examine Kirchoff's law.
>>
>>There's more to it than that, sir. of course, your feeble attempt at
>>mockery
>>does not diprove you copied that cite without referencing, sir.
>>
>>
>>"> It is not plagiarism to relate a scientific fact."
>>
>>It is if you cite one without refrencing it, sir.
>
> Wrong!!! I can't even begin to relate how many scientific papers
> are written using Newton's laws without the mention of Newton!
>
Not word for word, sir and none of those paper's authors claim the work was
entirely theirs.
>>> The only thing you can argue are that my FACTS are wrong... and you
>>> know you can't do that.
>>
>>They aren't your facts, sir.
>
> When I show them to you as proof of my arguments they represent
> my facts proving my arguments. While all I have from you is
> mumbles, whining, sobbing hysterically while curled up in the
> fetal position, lies, hate, ignorance and mindless drivel.
>>
You do not show proof, sir.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Very longwinded, sir. The correct formula is radians = degrees*pi/180
>>>>>>Of course you would have spotted that a complete circle is 2pi.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's exactly what I wrote, shit-for-brains. Other than I use
>>>>> 2.14159... an approximation for pi. Here it is again --
>>>>
>>>>No, sir you wrote.
>>>
>>> And what I wrote was as accurate as yours since pi is an irrational
>>> number, and cannot be expressed as a constant.. obviously. While
>>> we don't concern ourselves with degrees that have more than 6
>>> digits of accuracy. In fact, degrees in general only have at most
>>> three digits of accuracy, at which point further accuracy is usually
>>> stated in minutes, and seconds. Each degree being split up into 60
>>> minutes, and each minute being split up into 60 seconds.
>>
>>"And what I wrote was as accurate as yours since pi is an irrational
>>> number"
>>
>>You cannot state that Pi suddently starts with 2 any more than you can
>>declare the last three digits, sir.
>
> Aw... Death Disco caught me in a typo... Good grief... if I had a
> nickel for every typo from him it would be like winning the
> lottery.
You admit that you performed a typo, sir. I find that immeasurably more
impressive than your bluster, sir
>
>>>>> rad = degrees x (2.14159... /180)
>>>>>
>>>>> See it right above the list of various radians at degrees?
>>>>
>>>>the formula for converting degrees to radians is Radians=degrees*pi/180,
>>>>sir. That is not what you wrote.
>>>
>>> See the three dots following 2.14159...? That means in standard
>>> mathematics that this is an approximation. And it is a completely
>>> accurate approximation. We're not sending a rocket to Mars, Sir
>>> shit-for-brains. And you cannot possibly argue that pi is a
>>> constant. While I clearly showed the various important degrees
>>> in pi.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Pi starts with a 3, sir.
>
> Awww.... death disco caught me in a typo.
More than one, sir but you admitted to it, sir. For you that is personal
growth. Keep it up, sir.
>
>>>>"I've been retired longer than you've been living."
>>>>
>>>>You're guessing, sir.
>>>
>>> And yet you've offered nothing that would refute my guess.
>>
>>You've offered nothing to back your guess up, sir.
>>
>
> Well, I retired on 23 April 1993. I doubt seriously you are over
> the age of 17. But I'm sure that you'll put on your fascist
> uniform and insist I am not _allowed to think_, Herr
> Sturmbannf锟絟rer Disco.
>
"Well, I retired on 23 April 1993"
Do you see how easy it is to extract personal information from you, sir?
"I doubt seriously you are over> the age of 17"
You are guessing, sir; although the number 17 has significance, sir.
>>> But
>>> even the thought that you are older than me, and have yet learned
>>> so little of life, sends shivers up my spine.
>>
>>I have already stated that I am younger than you, sir.
>>Your words were: "I've been retired longer than you've been living."
>>How old were you when you retired sir?
>>
> How old are you??? Since you never answer my questions,
> why do you think I should answer yours until you answer even
> one of mine?
>
Because you respond with that silly plagiarised cite of yours, sir.
>>>
>>>>> [1] see bottom of post.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It was feeble sir. You got as far as working out the capacitive
>>>>>>reactance.
>>>>>>then you went off at a tangent.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>>>
>>>>There was no denial, sir. You mucked it up.
>>>
>>> It doesn't make the denier suddenly speak the truth when it is
>>> obvious that he speaks a lie. That seems to be your implication.
>>>
>>
>>You mucked it up, sir.
>
> TRANSLATION " You mucked it up, sir."
>
>>>>
>>>>" knowledgeable when you're not"
>>>>
>>>>You're guessing, sir.
>>>
>>> And yet you've offered nothing that would disprove my comment.
>>
>>You've offered nothing to back your guess up, sir.
>
> Heh... Am I supposed to give you a fascist salute in responding to
> your "order" that I am not _allowed to think_, Herr Sturmbannf锟絟rer
> Disco? You fit perfectly in that fascist outfit.
>
"Heh"
I need say no more.
>>>>" All in all you screwed it up pretty badly. "
>>>>
>>>>It that is what you call screwing up pretty badly then you need a life
>>>>sir.
>>>>Typographical errors are only a bad screwing when you are writing a
>>>>paper
>>>>on English language sir.
>>>
>>> "Education is the best provision for the journey to old age." --
>>> Aristotle.
>>
>>Who mentioned education, sir? We were talking of typographical errors,
>>sir.
>>
> A "typo" is the exchange on ONE LETTER of the alphabet for ANOTHER
> when typing. Changing words, or changing meaning, or grammatical
> mistakes, are NOT considered typos, Sir shit-for-brains.
No, sir; A typo is a printing or typesetting error caused by "mechanical
fault". The expression is often used incorrectly in place of a Freudian slip
for example.
>
>>>>On newsgroups it's minor at worst and only used as
>>>>ammunition for imbeciles like you whom can't win their arguments any
>>>>other
>>>>way. I am still waiting for your answer to the very SIMPLE problem I
>>>>gave
>>>>you.
>>>
>>> Heh... More ad hominem to cover up your lack of a proper
>>> education. See --
>>> http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/logic.html#hominem
>>
>>Your avoidence of the problem is noted, sir. You are too great a coward to
>>admit that you cannot do it, sir.
>>
> And yet you have the answers to your simplistic and ill-conceived and
> badly distorted questions, while I still wait for even one answer from
> you.
The questions are perfectly clear, sir.
>
>>>>
>>>>> "We're examining YOUR expertise, since you're the one blowing your
>>>>> horn about --
>>>>>
>>>>> "I'll bet you don't know what bayes theorum, linear regression mean,
>>>>> and I suspect you do not know the magic number in the plume encryption
>>>>> algorythm."
>>>>>
>>>>> See the quotation marks, shit-for-brains?? What makes you think I'd
>>>>> be as dumb as you and not know how to spell "theorem," and
>>>>> "algorithm"?
>>>>>
>>>>> There has seldom been a poster to AADP who is more in need of a spell
>>>>> checker than you, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>As I said, sir, "Typographical errors are only a bad screwing when you
>>>>are
>>>>writing a paper on English language sir. On newsgroups it's minor at
>>>>worst
>>>>and only used as ammunition for imbeciles like you whom can't win their
>>>>arguments any other way".
>>>
>>> "Education is the best provision for the journey to old age." --
>>> Aristotle.
>>
>>Who mentioned education, sir? We were talking of typographical errors,
>>sir.
>>
> A "typo" is the exchange on ONE LETTER of the alphabet for ANOTHER
> when typing. Changing words, or changing meaning, or grammatical
> mistakes, are NOT considered typos, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>
"A "typo" is the exchange on ONE LETTER of the alphabet for ANOTHER
> when typing"
Wrong, sir.
>>>>Perhaps you should invest in a Thesaurus, sir.
>>>
>>
>>" I already have more of them then I need "
>>
>>Well try using them from time to time, sir.
>>
>
> Generally I don't need one, since I know quite a few different words
> that mean about the same thing, but have a slightly different shading.
>
"Generally I don't need one,"
An expression of the arrogant imbecile, sir. There is never any harm in
checking your facts.
> But it is enough to mention that you have offered Holocaust
> denial to put you in your place.
>
No, sir; I never denied the holocaust occurred.
>>>>>
>>>>> Heh... the penny drops... And Death Disco is speechless.
>>>>
>>>>Wishful thinking on your part, sir.
>>>
>>> And yet that's all you have to say.
>>.
>>Which is not "speechless", sir. You screwed it up again, sir.
>
> "Mindless drivel" is nothing but demonstrating you are "speechless."
"Mindless drivel"
Is not speechless, sir.
You failed to understand it, sir. Ergo you were rendered speechless , sir
>
>>>>> No you didn't.
>>>>
>>>>Yes I did, sir.
>>>
>>> No you didn't, Sir shit-a-lot.
>>
>>Yes I did, sir.
>
> NO you didn't, Sir shit-for-brains.
Yes I did, sir.
>
>>>
>>> Heh heh... and yet not even an attempt. My goodness, DD... it's
>>> the SIMPLEST differential equation I know of.
>>
>>It is sir. Then I suggest you learn differential calculus, sir.
>>
> "Differential calculus" is a broad subject, sport.
But you failed the basics, "Sport"
>You consider it
> nothing but finding a derivative... called "differentiation." It is
> hardly difficult knowing only the Cartesian coordinate system to
> determine the slope of a line at a point using the tangent to
> that point that is determined by approaching that point as
> close as the infinitesimal limit.
>
> That minor part of the basics of "the Differential Calculus,"
> does not touch upon solving "differential equations." Differential
> equations relate functions of more than one variable to their
> partial derivatives. I doubt you even can comprehend such a
> concept, or how to approach solving a partial differential
> equation.
>
>>>
>>>>You still have not answered your problem, sir. I have noted your
>>>>repeated
>>>>efforts to avoid it.
>>>
>>> I don't have time for your bullshit,
>>
>>Your lack of backbone to admit that it is beyond you has been noted, sir.
>>
> And yet I found the time. Now when will we see anything but
> jelly for your backbone???
I wait patiently for your answers sir.
>
*snip 57 pages of detritus*
-
J
> On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 21:16:13 +0100, "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
> wrote:
>
> Hey... Sir shit-for-brains. When can I expect you to answer a single
> question of mine, given that all yours which can be answered have been
> answered?
>
That was a question sir and the answer is that I'm answering it, now.
> Repeating my comment, which you avoided by suddenly disappearing for
> a week.
>>
Did you miss me, sir? How sweet. It is curious that you didn't respond to my
posts until yesterday.
Your bookie will not say that when he expects you to cough up the readies,
sir.
>
>>> I'm betting that question comes from one of your Dutch handbooks
>>> on Electric Circuits and includes a schematic along with the question,
>>> which you just tried to translate into English, and fucked it up
>>> properly as you did with that other problem. If you can't put the
>>> question up with a schematic it's about worthless, in the way you
>>> offered it. But here's help... do it yourself.
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-phase
>>
>>
>>No, sir. The question was taken from a British academic souce and the
>>question was worded correctly. Your response admits that you are unable to
>>understand the question, sir.
>
> I don't believe you. Post that source, and the entire problem as it
> appears in that source. If you can't do that... you're simply lying.
> I'll tell you what... you answer it, and provide a step-by-step answer
> to see what you use that you omitted from the parameters of the
> problem. One does not even know if you are referring to 400VL
> as A/C or D/C.
>
"I don't believe you"
Which proves that your utterly and totally failed to comprehend the
question, sir.
"Post that source, and the entire problem as it
> appears in that source"
How does one post a couple of sides of a4 on the internet, sir?
"If you can't do that... you're simply lying."
No, sir; If I cannot do that then it means I don't have a scanner, sir.
"you answer it"
So you concede that you cannot answer it, sir.
> But the gentle reader should notice that in more of your lies and
> deceptions you even clipped out my entire comment which
> disproved your argument. So I had to put it back in. You're a very
> sick boy... seek help --
>
I believe that the "gentle reader" is not stupid, sir.
"you even clipped out my entire comment"
If I clipped it sir then it can be only of least importance.
>>> In any case your problem is a piece of junk not worth my
>>> time.
>>
>>Wrong, sir.
>
> Bullshit, it's just like all your comments... mindless drivel.
You admit that you did not understand it, sir.
>
>>> However, here's one for you that does have a schematic along
>>> with the problem. Try to answer this one --
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/circuit.jpg
>>
>>I see you've found the section on transients in your book, sir
>
> TRANSLATION " I see you've found the section on transients in your book,
> sir."
>
>>> This has every bit of the information you need to solve the
>>> question.
>>>
>>
>>It does, sir.
>
> And I'll bet you can't solve it.
I would have to draw a graph, sir.
>
>>> ROTFLMAO... I've got a hundred bucks riding on this one with my
>>> friend that you don't have a clue how to even begin.
>>>
>>
>>"ROTFLMAO... I've got a hundred bucks riding on this one "
>>
>>What I would do, you ask. I would start by looking at what the circuit
>>does,
>>sir. At first glance, I see two potential dividers there. I would then
>>redraw the equivalent circuit then work out PHI. Once I have that, I can
>>plot a graph of the charge/discharge voltage of that capacitor and for
>>good
>>measure, I would probably plot the current, also.
>
> ROTFLMAO. You need to provide the ANSWER, sport... not more of your
> bullshit. What is the value of v (sub t) for t > 0 ???? From the
> problem there is no need to graph it, or try your bullshit. See --
> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/circuit.jpg
> You have not correctly solved even one of the problems I've given you.
> It has a very straightforward answer, if one knows the Laplace
> transform method. In fact, there are all kinds of tables listing
> various values. Here's some help --
> http://mathworld.wolfram.com/LaplaceTransform.html
"You need to provide the ANSWER, sport"
The answer would be a graph, sir and you would need to provide a periodic
scale. If you understood the question then you would know that, sir.
"You have not correctly solved even one of the problems"
Yes I have, sir. that's the one you are pretending you haven't seen even
though you gave yourself away with your comment that you read my "excuse",
sir.
> I think you're a load of bullshit and have no idea how to solve any
> Laplace transform.
>
"I think you're a load of bullshit"
Whereas I "know" that, you are full of bullshit, sir.
>>You lose your bet, sir.
>>
> Heh... declaring victory while at the same time admitting defeat in
> solving the problem.
Do you know what a potential divider is, sir? You have until you click the
reply group button to look it up, sir.
>
>> "with my friend that you don't have a clue how to even begin"
>>
>>You do not fool me, sir. You do not have any friends.
>
> LOL... That from the guy who still has his mommy bring him
> his warm milk at night.
Do not be ridiculous, sir. I like my milk cold.
>
> "If" you had another brain it would be lonely.
It would, sir. The two brains would be independently connected and would not
communicate with each other. However for you to have even one brain would
require a transplant.
>
>>Given you have a low pass filter with a resistor of 31830 ohms, and a
>>capacitor of 1 Nano Farad. at frequency of 500 Cs what is the DB loss and
>>the phase angle? You will have to work out the reactance first, sir.
>
> Well, let's see. We've already found the cutoff frequency = 1/(2 x
> [pi] x R x c) = 1/(2 x 2.14 x 3.183 x 10^4 x 10^-9) Hz
> thus reducing -- cutoff frequency = 5 x 10^3 Hz = 5 KHz
> at cutoff frequency Xc = R = 3.183 x10^4 ohms = 31.83 K Ohms
> cutoff frequency = -3 db
>
> For the phase angle in degrees we know that it is equal to
> -tan^-1(f(in)/f(cutoff))... and f(in)/f(cutoff) = 0.1. So from basic
> trig we find that -tan^-1*(0.1) = 10 in degrees. So the phase angle
> at 500 Hz is 10 degrees.
A nice try, sir but your answer is incorrect. You were correct in assuming
that you use trigonometry "tan--1" but the numbers you put in were wrong,
sir. The formula is theta=tan^-1(-r/XC) the result is a 5.7 degree lag, sir.
>
> As to the dB loss there is insufficient information, since it is
> determined by the order of the filter itself. For example: for
> first order low pass filters the gain rolls off at a rate of -20
> dB/per decade, in the stop band. On the other hand, for
> second order low pass filters the roll off is -40 dB/per decade. But
> since the frequency you gave is 500 Hz, and the cutoff frequency is
> 5,000 Hz, I would suspect there would be no dB loss at 500 Hz. See -
> http://www.play-hookey.com/ac_theory/lo_pass_filters.html
>
You have sufficient information to answer that part of the question, sir.
You have Xc and r, sir. That is all you need. Hint: you should use another
bit of trig, sir.
> Now answer please --
> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/circuit.jpg
>
To solve that would require a graph and a timescale, sir.
>>
>>Given a three phase unbalanced supply, VL=400V, Z1=30,Z2=50 and Z3=40 ohm,
>>calculate phase voltage, Each line current and the power dissipated
>>across
>>each line, sir.
>
> Insufficient information. Provide a circuit schematic and I'll solve
> that problem. I mean... you DO have a schematic for the circuit
> you describe... don't you????
There is sufficient information present, sir. If you want a schematic, then
draw one. You have paper and a pencil don't you?
>
> Answer please --
> Solve the differential equation d²x/dt² = -g
> With initial conditions x(0) = x(sub o) and v(0) = v(sub o)
What is -g, sir?
>
> Answer please --
> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/fourier_transform_quiz.jpg
>
> Answer please --
> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/laplace_quiz.jpg
>
> These should keep you busy... if you can even handle one of them.
>
> "If" you were any dumber you'd have to be watered twice a week.
You're the one getting the questions wrong, sir.
>
>>You have a parallel tuned circuit with a resistance of 68 ohm, a resonant
>>frequency of 5khz, and an inductor of 145.4 mH. Calculate the capacitance.
>>
>
> Heh... what's this 5khz??? I thought you argued there was no
> such thing... that it is KCs?
I made no such argument sir. You stated that you like to see it in formal
notation, so I provided that for you. Excuse me for being considerate, sir.
>
> However... XL at resonance is --> 2*pi*f*h = 4.568 K ohms...
> Thus CL must also be 4.568 K ohm. And simple arithmetic to
> compute C = 1/(2(pi)*f*4568) gives C = 6.968 *10^-9 = 6.968 nf.
>
"2*pi*f*h"
2*PI*F*L, sir
H is a unit of inductance sir, not the whole of inductance sir
"=4.568 K ohms"
That is correct, sir.
"Thus CL must also be 4.568 K ohm"
Xc. sir.
So what is C, sir?
Sir, had you said, "in a tuned, circuit, at resonance, XC, and XL are always
equal" I would have marked your answer correct. The show your workings
comment was a trick question, sir.
>
> You doofus!!!! At resonance XL = XC. You GAVE me XL, and asked
> for XC. Not just trivial but an identity. Actually... no work
> involved there. Where do you get your problems from??? Joe Miller's
> Joke Book of Electronic Ignorance?
"You GAVE me XL, and asked
for XC. Not just trivial but an identity. Actually... no work
involved there"
Correct, sir but I see from above that you have only just realized that,
sir. Of course you will try to infer that you already knew it, that I Didn't
then you'll resort to your usual name calling. This is your tactic, sir. You
rush to your books find and answer, post it as if to make out that you
already knew it then accidentally, you make it clear that you don't
understand the question and finally you resort to name calling. Are you
aware that people are on to you, sir?
>
> Answer please --
> An amplifier has a 4bB noise figure; the bandwidth is B = 500 KHz.
> Calculate the input signal power that yields a unity SNR at the
> output. Assume T (sub o) = 290 degrees Kelvin and an input
> resistance of one ohm.
>
"sub o", sir?
"unity SNR", sir?
Do you actually understand the question, sir?
> Answer please --
> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/fourier_quiz.jpg
>
> And because you asked me a question about a geometric shape --
> One more for good measure --
> Answer please --
> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/sphere_quiz.jpg
>
>
> <fx: PV sits back and laughs his head off>
>
<fx: Death disco leans back and smiles at PV's almost total failure to
comprehend the challenges put to him>
>>>>" certainly throw problems at you that you have no idea how to even
>>>>> approach"
>>>>
>>>>No, you cannot sir.
>>>
>>> Sure I can, shit-for-brains. I've already thrown three at you that
>>> you're afraid to even take a stab at.
>>>
>>
>>" Sure I can, shit-for-brains"
>>
>>No, you cannot sir.
>
> See above, Sir shit-for-brains... I have thousands of them that are
> well beyond your intellect.
See above, sir.
"I have thousands of them that are
> well beyond your intellect."
You are guessing, sir.
>
> "If" you were any smarter, your mommy could teach you to fetch.
You are the one whom keeps answering the problems incorrectly, sir. I have
attempted just one of yours and I got the answer correct after the second
attempt, sir. I spotted my mistakes, which is something you failed to do
sir. You really do not understand the electrical field, do you sir?
>
>>"I've already thrown three at you that
>>> you're afraid to even take a stab at."
>>
>>No you haven't, sir.
>
> Of course I have... they are shown above... and you haven't solved
> a single question I've thrown at you... NOT ONE!!!
>
"Of course I have"
No you haven't, sir.
>>>> Not when you failed to answer the simple DB problem I
>>>>gave you earlier.
>>>
>>> When you learn how to formulate your problems accurately you'll
>>> get better results. Offering mumbo-jumbo only shows your own
>>> ignorance.
>>
>>It's formulated correctly, sir.
>
> No... it's not.
Yes it is, sir.
>
> As to the dB loss there is insufficient information, since it is
> determined by the order of the filter itself. For example: for
> first order low pass filters the gain rolls off at a rate of -20
> dB/per decade, in the stop band. On the other hand, for
> second order low pass filters the roll off is -40 dB/per decade. But
> since the frequency you gave is 500 Hz, and the cutoff frequency is
> 5,000 Hz, I would suspect there would be no dB loss at 500 Hz. See -
> http://www.play-hookey.com/ac_theory/lo_pass_filters.html
>
Nonsense, sir; you have all the information that you need.
>>
>>>>
>>>>Problems you cannot solve, sir.
>>>
>>>
>>"Wrong, sport... "
>>I'm glad to hear it, sir. I look forward to seeing your solutions, dear
>>fellow.
>
> See above, shit-for-brains.
>
Yes, sir. One incorrect answer and the rest is missing.
It's not exactly a glowing recommendation for your skill sir.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It's hardly a "simple" problem then, sir.
>>>>
>>> Yes... but you don't even know the first thing how to start.
>>
>>You are guessing, sir.
>
> And yet... there you sit... claiming I haven't thrown a problem
> at you that you cannot solve. And then you wonder why I call
> you a pathological liar.
>
No, sir. I said, "You are guessing, sir"
>>>>> But I can "understand" the solution in going through that _cheat
>>>>> sheet_. I'm quite sure that you couldn't.
>>>>
>>>>You're guessing, sir.
>>>>
>>> Well, prove it!
>>
>>You haven't posted the cheat sheet yet, sir
>
> When you solve the first step, shit for brains.
If you want me to attempt the problem then you need to post all the
information you needed and had to solve it, sir.
>
>>>
>>>
>>> *profound silence from Sir shit-for-brains*
>>
>>You were anything by silent, sir.
>
> Your name is "Sir shit-for-brains." Try to separate fact from
> your rather disturbed and creepy imagination.
"Your name is "Sir shit-for-brains.""
No, sir; I am Death Disco, so by process of elimination you must be, "Sir
shit-for-brains."
>
>>>>Provide me with the references and sources you used and I shall see if I
>>>>can figure it out but it doesn't read like an electrical engineering
>>>>problem.
>>>>It reads like a physics problem.
>>>
>>> Give you the source so you can look up the answer?
>>
>>So you looked up the answer sir. I could have guessed.
>
> I have all the answers. You have none.
You have them in a book, sir, which you had to look up; therefore, you
cannot claim credit, sir.
>
>>>You must be
>>> joking. However, the title of the source contains the word
>>> "Engineering."
>>>
>>
>>Is it electrical engineering, sir?.
>
> No... it's electrical "engineering,"
It's strange that I have not seen a problem like it, sir. It is a
thermodynamics problem, sir.
"you stupid shit-for-brains."
If you cannot win your arguments without lying or (inclusive) name-calling
then you should not be allowed to play,sir.. Do I make you nervous, sir?
> Get yourself a spell checker. It will not only improve the appearance
> of your comments, but teach you how to spell.
>
"Get yourself a spell checker. "
I have one, sir. Now please get yourself a grammar checker.
>>
>>"While you have correctly answered not a one of mine"
>>
>>You are incorrect, sir. I answered your first one correctly, second time
>>round.
>
> The point is that you answered incorrectly. I don't usually answer
> questions until I am sure of the answer. See above. I've enjoyed
> this since it has made me at times go back to the references I
> maintain... you are quite permitted to use any references you might
> find helpful... but so far there hasn't been any real effort shown on
> your part, because you've become aware that the situation is much
> too complex for your limited skills.
>
"The point is that you answered incorrectly"
No, sir; the point is that I answered correctly.
> "If" brains were taxed, you'd break the EU bank in refunds.
>
In addition, there is the insult. You throw one at me when you feel
threatened by me, sir.
>>"Hell... you have three waiting for you,"
>>
>>You have 4 waiting for you.
>
> I have none waiting for me. In fact, there are two of your own
> waiting for you to provide a schematic. You do know what a schematic
> is... don't you???
You have only answered two correctly, sir and they were both so easy, a
school child of 8 could have answered them.
>
> You now have eight questions waiting for you. I promise to give
> you at least two for every one you ask me... and I'll bet you whine
> that you are unable to answer or even try to answer any of them
> with an answer that makes any sense.
>
You now have eight questions waiting for you
Then I shall find 4 more for you, sir. If I were a gambling man, I would
wager that you get one correct at most and claim you got the rest wrong
because I wrote the question wrong, sir.
> Right now the score is eight questions to you with only one
> "second-chance" feeble answer from you, and no unanswered
> questions from you to me.
"
> Right now the score is eight questions to you with only one
> "second-chance" correct answer"
Typo corrected, sir.
>
>
>>>>Basic electrical principles are too complicated for you, evidently sir.
>>>
>>> Heh... I haven't seen any picture of electrical principles from you,
>>> Sir shit-for-brains.
>>>
>>
>>You need pictures, sir?
>>You should be able to draw them from the parameters I gave you, sir.
>
> Wrong. YOU should be able to draw them from the parameters you
> gave, Sir shit-for-brains. You assert YOU CAN... so you need to PROVE
> IT. We both know that you cannot draw the circuits in question given
> only the limited parameters you've given.
>
"Wrong"
That is true, sir. A corrected assertion is that everyone should be able to
draw them from the parameters I gave, sir; you are too stupid, sir.
>>>>> An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Exactly my point, sir. As I said, "You have no basis to back up your
>>>>assertions, so they can only be guesses"
>>>>
>>> You're the one asserting that I'm guessing. Prove it. I've
>>> got the proof.
>>
>>You have never backed up your assertions, without proof they are guesses,
>>sir.
>
> And yet, you're the one asserting I'm guessing.
Indeed, sir but I know the truth, you do not sir. You have not way to prove
your assertions sir so they are guesses.
Is that too complicated for you, sir? Would you like a nurse to explain it
to you before wiping your chin, sir?
>Logic really is
> too complicated for you, sonny. Stick with the warm milk from mommy
> at night, and stay out of Internet information sites about electronics
> that are too complicated for you.
>
"Logic really is
> too complicated for you, sonny"
You are guessing, sir.
>>> I've already given you the easiest of differential equations.
>>
>>No, sir.
>
> Yes, sonny. The differential equation is --
>
> Solve the differential equation d²x/dt² = -g
No, sir. You said, "I've already given you the easiest of differential
equations."
"d²x/dt² = -g" is not the easiest, sir.
Y=x*10^2 is the easiest, sir.
>
> With initial conditions x(0) = x(sub o) and v(0) = v(sub o)
>
> They don't come any easier than that...
Then you should learn differential calculus, sir.
>
> <fx: Death Disco laughs his "ass(sic)" off>
>>>>
>>>>"Keep in mind that YOU originally misspelled both "cite""
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No Didn't sir.
>>>
>>> Yes, you did,
>>
>>No Didn't sir.
>>
> Yes, did... Sir shit-for-brains. Unlike you and your absurd lies I
> have the PROOF... in your own words. you challenge me to provide
> proof positive of your dishonesty. I have this proof, Sir
> shit-for-brains. It is unambiguous, undoubted, and in your own hand,
> and I believe it is in the interest of newsgroup readers to realize
> that your protestations of honesty, repeated over and over, are not
> true. You are a pathological liar.
>
"Yes, did..."
No did not sir.
>>>
>>>>As I said, sir, "Typographical errors are only a bad screwing when you
>>>>are
>>>>writing a paper on English language sir. On newsgroups it's minor at
>>>>worst
>>>>and only used as ammunition for imbeciles like you whom can't win their
>>>>arguments any other way".
>>>
>>> You can say it forever, and it won't for a single second hide your
>>> shown ignorance of the English language.
>>
>>English is not my first language, xenophobe,
>
> Well, English is my mother-tongue and I despise it being assassinated
> by someone who isn't intent upon learning English, but instead intent
> upon using it to spread poisonous filth, and pathological lies. After
> all.... you did write that -- "if i do not approve of a definition I
> simply choose not to use it." That's proof you are not trying to
> learn English, but to corrupt it.
>
"Well, English is my mother-tongue"
Therefore, you should be a lot better at it, sir.
> However, you're the xenophobe, since you insisted I cannot use
> "American English." I just wish you'd use English in ways in which
> you do not intend to corrupt the English language. I'll take any
> kind... as long as you don't use it to spread hate, and Holocaust
> denial, and other venomous lies.
>
>>> "Education is the best provision for the journey to old age." --
>>> Aristotle.
>>
>>
>>Who mentioned education, sir? We were talking of typographical errors,
>>sir.
>>
>
> We're talking about your stupidity.. which is truly astonishing in
> it's breadth and length.
>
No, sir; we're talking about yours. Sir, you pretend that you have not heard
of typographical errors and then you get the meaning wrong, sir.
>>>
>>>>Perhaps you should invest in a Thesaurus, sir.
>>>
>>> And yet that's all you have to say. Repetitive mindless drivel.
>>
>>Pot, kettle, black, sir.
>
> Hardly... See..
> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/thesaurus.jpg
> That's just one of them, Sir shit-for-brains... You really are an
> emotional wreck, my boy... seek help.
>
"Hardly..."
You post the evidence of your repetitive mindless drivel anew with every
post, sir.
>>> Yes.
>>
>>No.
>
> YES!!! Heh heh heh... got you going. You've made lying your
> profession. YES... YES... YES...
No, sir; The only thing you got going is your blood pressure, sir.
>
>>>>It's definitely your voice, sir.
>>>
>>> Too bad your comment only again displays your ignorance of the
>>> English language.
>>
>>You're guessing, sir.
>
> Hardly... there is not a single post from you that does not contain
> either a new lie, or a denial of your past lies. And lying is
> well-known as an attempt to cover-up for ignorance. Your
> post here carries a number of your lies.
>
"... there is not a single post from you that does not contain
> either a new lie, or a denial of your past lies"
Pot, kettle, black, sir.
>>>>>
>>>>Nonsense, dear fellow. It is unknown therefore I cannot know it.
>>>
>>> But you said you _know_ it. You said it was "something higher
>>> than ourselves." Well, how could that be if you didn't hear it from
>>> "it"? Who told you? Oh, wait... it's that Bible talking to you
>>> again... never mind.
>>>
>>
>>Nonsense, dear fellow. It is unknown therefore I cannot know it.
>
> And yet.... you insist you DO KNOW there is "something higher than
> ourselves," who has TOLD YOU there is this fairy tale of "a right to
> life for cockroaches, rats, flies, bacteria and other pathogens." With
> each human falling someone in between one cockroach and two
> cockroaches in worth.
>
"And yet.... you insist you DO KNOW there is "something higher than
> ourselves,""
No, sir.
> Once again, in your imaginary belief that "nature" is that "something
> higher than ourselves" and has given all biological life a "right to
> life," you offer another one of your logical fallacies, "The appeal to
> nature" fallacy. See --
> http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/logic.html#natural
"Right to life" offends you, sir. Do you believe that life is a privilege,
sir?
>
> It's thinking like yours that leads to the taking of life, in the
> mistaken belief that doing so protects "a right to life." Clearly in
> your argument about your precious cockroaches, you have insisted
> that the lives of two cockroaches as twice as important as the
> life of one human being.
>
"to the taking of life, in the
> mistaken belief that doing so protects "a right to life." "
Is known as the death penalty, sir.
> I'll ask you again... would you kill two cockroaches to save a
> murderer from being executed?
Why would killing two cockroaches save a human being from being executed,
sir? Are you unable to see a murderer as a human being, sir?
>
>>>>Simple logic, sir.
>>>
>>> ROTFLMAO. Doesn't that word stick in your craw, considering you
>>> have no idea what it really means???
>>
>>Id that the best you can do, sir? It is apparently.
>
> Was that the best you could do in arguing "Simple logic," in support
> of one of the most massive efforts to diminish the human race ever
> seen in Usenet?
>
"Was that the best you could do in arguing "Simple logic,""
It was a pointless argument sir. You have no concept of logic, simple or
otherwise.
>>>>>
>>>>"Yes, you did".
>>>>
>>>>No I didn't, sir.
>>>
>>> See above... PROOF positive. Poor ol' Sir shit-for-brains... caught
>>> in yet another lie.
>>>
>>
>>No proof at all, sir.
>
> And yet the proof is there... in your own words. your argument when
> put into logical terms is "x is something higher than ourselves." and
> "x is an unknown." But you know that "x is something higher than
> ourselves," So "x is not unknown to Death Disco."
>
It is unknown so I cannot know it; simple logic, sir.
> quod erat demonstrandum -- Death Disco claims to "know the unknown."
No, he does not, sir.
>
> And what's even more revealing is that you clipped the proof, but
> left only your denials in.
There was no proof to clip, sir.
>
> "Nature" doesn't give a shit about biological life, Sir
> shit-for-brains. Your unnatural belief that abstractions _talk to
> you_, is the sign of a sick mind.
>
""Nature" doesn't give a shit about biological life, Sir
> shit-for-brains."
Stop trying to convince yourself of something you cannot know, sir.
>>>>"Shit, son"
>>>>
>>>>I shall take that as a yes.
>>>
>>> Take it any way you want to...
>>
>>Oh I will, sir.
>
> You've always been a master of lies... why should I expect otherwise?
"You've always been a master of lies"
Pot, kettle, black, sir.
>
> "If" ignorance were a crime, you'd be on the "ten most wanted" list.
>>
"If" ignorance were a crime"
Your own country would execute you, sir.
>><snip Mr Noles' puerile nonsense>
>
> Heh... Death Disco admits that my credentials are in order, yet has
> even swallowed the key to his desk in which he keeps his imaginary
> credentials (along with his trusty Bible), to make sure he can claim
> anything he wants.
>
"Heh."
Is what you say when you see another threatening answer, sir.
>>>>>>>>You believe in a god, sir?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is the word "if" (a conditional clause) too complicated for you? IF
>>>>>>> you were a bird you could fly. But you aren't a bird.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Is the word "if" (a conditional clause)"
>>>>
>>>>Yes it is sir.
>>>
>>> Well, then... wake up!!
>>
>>You're droning would send anyone to sleep, sir.
>
> There's a solution for that... simply ignore my ruination of
> all your arguments, rather than respond with these endless streams
> of lies and mindless drivel of yours.
>
"There's a solution for that... simply ignore my lies and mindless drivel."
Typos corrected sir
>>>>"IF you were a bird you could fly. But you aren't a bird"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I could fly in an aeroplane, sir.
>>>
>>> No. sport... it's the "aeroplane" that flies. Not you. If you
>>> could jump on the back of one of your dragons,
>>
>>My dragons, sir?
>
> Yeah, one of your imaginary dragons.
What imaginary dragons, are you referring to, sir? The only creature I
imagine is the rabbit in your head working the controls, sir.
>>
>>"No. sport... it's the "aeroplane" that flies. Not you"
>>
>>Only if you forget to get on it, sir.
>>
>
> You're insane... by now even you must realize that your trolley has
> jumped the tracks. Have mommy bring you some warm milk and
> tuck you in, you've used up all your lies for today.
>
"You're insane"
The evidence shows that you are the insane one, sir.
>>> In any case... read my word, Sir shit-for-brains. It refers
>>> to BIRDS... and doesn't even say that YOU can't fly but
>>> that IF you were a bird you could fly.
>>
>>And my words do not testify that I cannot fly without an aircraft, sir.
>>They stipulate only that I can fly on one.
>
> That's not YOU flying, Sir shit-for-brains.
That is flying on one, sir.
>
>>I would hope that you did not do much programming in your alleged masters
>>degree, sir. You do not have the logic for it.
>
> ROTFLMAO... Death Disco insists that getting on a plane that
> flies means HE can fly... and calls that _his logic_. Perhaps
> you should examine the logical fallacy of "The Affirmation of
> the Consequent." See -
Really, sir; if you cannot win an argument without lying then you should not
be allowed to play.
> http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/logic.html#consequent
> Notice that your argument is "A" - I can fly implies "B" because the
> aircraft can fly me. Just because "B" is true, does not mean "A" is
> true. You cannot fly, bird boy.
An aeroplane can, sir.
>
> "If" there were an Easter Bunny, Death Disco would claim that the
> Easter Bunny told him there is this "right to life for cockroaches and
> other vermin."
>
"If" there were an Easter Bunny"
Is he related to the rabbit in your head working the controls, sir?
>>But, given that
>>> you also hear voices I suspect you also believe you can be
>>> transmogrified into a bird, simply by stepping into the
>>> teleporter from StarTrek. Perhaps a carrion eating bird...
>>> it would certainly be apposite (look that word up in your handy
>>> pocket English dictionary).
>>>
>>
>>"But, given that
>>> you also hear voices "
>>
>>I can hear them now, sir. the radio is on.
>
> Is that those voices coming from your tin hat antenna? Pretty soon
> you'll have to put up a sign to warn others. See --
> http://tinyurl.com/32tx8n3
>
"Is that those voices coming from your tin hat antenna? "
No, they are coming from my radio, sir.
>>>>"I don't believe in a God"
>>>>
>>>>You don't, sir? Then why do you keep asking it to strike me down?
>>>
>>> Are you still confused about the word "if," Sir shit-for-brains???
>>> But trust me... if would no big loss to humanity. Although
>>> cockroaches might attend your funeral. With cockroaches,
>>> mourning the loss of their "champion," who insists they are
>>> each the equal of a human being, up to the neck of everyone
>>> around it. No greater love hath man... than Death Disco for
>>> the cockroach.
>>>
>>
>>"Are you still confused about the word "if," "
>>
>>Oh there's no confusion, sir.
>
> They why is it you continue to insist the word doesn't exist in my
> comment, shit-for-brains?
I made no such assertion, sir. Why do you persist in imagining texts that
are not there, sir?
>
> "If" ignorance were painful, you'd be in agony.
In addition, there is the insult that you throw one at me when you feel
threatened by me, in a feeble attempt to hide your ignorance, sir.
>>>>>>I have not killed anyone sir.
>>>>>
>>>>> So that's your excuse for the slaughter of the Tutsis in Africa????
>>>
>>>>
>>>>You perceive that innocence is an excuse? Curious.
>>>
>>> When you're part of the problem!!!
>>
>>The part of the problem is the people doing the killing; the other part of
>>the problem is the politics behind the people doing the killing. If you
>>are
>>involved in neither of those then you are not part of the problem.
>>
>
> All men are political animals. If you don't fight against it... then
> you are fighting for it. I haven't yet seen you write that you regret
> or despise the killing of those Tutsis. But I have seen you insist
> you do not know of the Holocaust, while telling the Jews that
> "after sixty years, it's time for them to get over it."
>
"All men are political animals"
As are all women and all creatures, sir.
>>>> I wasn't at the holocaust. I do remember much of my
>>>>education, however.
>>>
>>> You mean arithmetic. Big deal. But again we have your
>>> two-faced claim. 1) You state "I do remember NOTHING."
>>> and then you state 2) "I do remember much of my education."
>>>
>>> Which is it???
>>
>>"You mean arithmetic"
>>No, sir. I mean a whole lot more.
>
> An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
If that were true, sir then none of your posts would be admissible.
>
>> "I do remember NOTHING."
>>
>>If you cannot win an argument without having to twist words, sir then you
>>should not be allowed to play
>>
>
> I put up your EXACT words, Sir shit-for-brains. Don't imply I'm lying
> when you said exactly that in very precise words.
>
>
If you cannot win an argument without having to twist words, sir then you
should not be allowed to play
>>> How can the fact that you insist you hear voices from "something
>>> higher than ourselves," possibly be MY problem?
>>
>>I made no such claim, sir.
>
> Sure you did, you airhead. How do you KNOW that there is
> a "right to life for all biological life"? There is no written word
> from "someone higher than ourselves," unless you are thumping
> your Bible. You imagine that "nature" and "biology" TALK TO
> YOU?? No one else hears those voices from "nature" and "biology."
> An abstraction cannot offer some kind of fact. "Nature" and
> "biology" do not dispense "rights" to anything or any one.
>
"Sure you did, you airhead"
Sure, I did not you imbecile.
> "If" one wanted to write rubbish, they could take lessons from you.
In addition, there is the insult that you throw one at me when you feel
threatened by me, in a feeble attempt to hide your ignorance, sir.
>
>>If you cannot win an argument without having to twist words, sir then you
>>should not be allowed to play
>>
>
> TRANSLATION " If you cannot win an argument without having to twist
> words, sir then you should not be allowed to play."
>
>>>>
>>>>Oh please, sir. Once cannnot watch the news without hearing about
>>>>someone
>>>>your people bombed.
>>>>
>>>
>>> "In respect to the death penalty"!!! Can't you ever read my words
>>> without distorting them, and lying about it???
>>
>>"In respect to the death penalty"!!!
>>
>>Is that what you call it?
>
> Isn't that what was stated in my words? Are you deaf, dumb and
> blind... or just incredibly stupid with a pathological need to lie?
>
"Are you deaf"
Being deaf would not affect my ability to read your words, sir. Are you
getting angry, sir?
> Once again... to clear this up, because of you hoping to first remove
> my words, and then twist them into saying what I did not say... here
> is my comment... repeated for you -- which you had clipped out.
"to clear this up"
You are not capable, sir. You repeatedly dig yourself in deeper, sir.
> ---------------------------------
> Wrong again... the only people interfering in the affairs of other
> states in respect to the death penalty is the EU trying to exert
> pressure on the U.S. in an internal matter. I don't know of
> any American having posted to AADP who gives a shit what
> the EU does with her murderers. I know I don't care! Yet the
> EU remains *profoundly silence* when it comes to condemning
> Islamic Sharia law, which stones women for adultery, and hangs
> those who are homosexuals.
> ---------------------------------
"I don't know of any American having posted to AADP who gives a shit"
Oh dear, sir.
> See the words "in respect to the death penalty," you lying sack of
> shit?
Pot, kettle, black, sir.
>>>
>>> Actually it's Europe's xenophobia,
>>
>>No, sir. It's yours.
>>
> Wrong, shit-for-brains. As I've explained I don't give a rat's ass if
> the EU holds a parade and makes sure that every murderer enjoys
> a conjugal weekend with Miss EU. That's the EU's business.
>
"I don't give a rat's ass"
Oh dear, sir.
> However, when the EU starts fucking with what WE do with OUR
> murderers... they are the ones demonstrating xenophobia. You really
> need to look up the word, shit for brains. See --
> http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/xenophobia
> XENOPHOBIA -- "Extreme dislike or fear of foreigners, their customs,
> their religions, etc."
>
"> However, when the EU starts fucking with what WE do with OUR
> murderers..."
They are not your murderers, sir. You do not own them.
"XENOPHOBIA -- "Extreme dislike or fear of foreigners, their customs,
> their religions, etc." "
That is correct, sir. You are a xenophobe, sir.
> Our custom is that we handle our murderers as we see fit... you and
> the rest of the EU show "extreme dislike" for OUR custom. In fact,
> the same applies to the U.S. being a strongly religious based
> citizenship (for some reason which eludes me... because it's truly
> stupid, IMO. But I can form that opinion, without being xenophobic,
> because I am an American). The EU really has little to do other than
> complain about the so-called "American religious right," that drives
> members of the EU into fits of raving hysteria, and fear greater than
> their fear of an EU 9/11.
>
> Don't even try to argue otherwise, because the evidence is there.
>
> As you've argued -- "Who are you to poke your nose into what is none
> of your business?" Apparently your xenophobia applies to your
> objection to me sticking my nose in... while you have no problem with
> you sticking YOUR nose in... what is none of your business.
>
"> Our custom is that we handle our murderers as we see fit"
They are not your murderers, sir. You do not own them.
>>>>As I said, your country is as knee deep in blood as everyone else, sir.
>>>
>>> So that excuses "everyone else"???
>>
>>No, sir.
>
> Then why do I not see you having ever complained about the Holocaust
> or the genocide in Rwanda, or the genocide in the former state of
> Yugoslavia? Why have I never seen you complain about the growing
> influence of Islamic terrorism in Europe which led to the murder of
> Theo Van Gogh? Or the fact that riots raged across the EU when
> cartoons were published lampooning Mohammed? Or the fact that
> Geert Wilders must be protected 24 hours a day, every day, because
> he is anti-Muslim terrorism? Or the fact that Muslim fathers and
> brothers murder their daughters if they have anything to do with
> non-Muslims, believing "family honor" (sic) is better served through
> murder of one's own family? Why have I not seen you complain
> about these images right from the UK --
> http://michellemalkin.com/2006/02/03/In-their-own-words/
>
"Then why do I not see you having ever complained about the Holocaust
> or the genocide in Rwanda, or the genocide in the former state of
> Yugoslavia?"
I am not their spokesperson, sir. If you want an explanation they you should
ask Yugoslavia, sir.
> Or is that you in one of those "protests"?
>
>>>>Maybe I can borrow some of yours, sir.
>>>
>>> Oh, gee... I'm shattered.. poor Sir shit-for-brains doesn't have
>>> an original thought in his head and simply uses the typical "you
>>> to," as some kind of excuses for his psychotic behavior.
>>
>>"poor Sir shit-for-brains doesn't have
>>> an original thought in his head "
>>
>>Don't you, sir? That's hardly suprising.
>
> TRANSLATION "Don't you, sir? That's hardly surprising."
>
>>>>Yes, sir. You're the one whom likes showing off your book collection.
>>>
>>> And you, Sir shit-for-brains - like showing off your ignorance.
>>
>>No, sir. I like showing off yours. I'm amazed that one who has so many
>>books
>>knows so little. Perhaps you should try reading them.
>>
>
> TRANSLATION " PV uses the translation service to warp an argument he
> cannot win which is why we see it so often.."
>
> And yet, I've answered all your questions
You have answered some of them sir and most, you answered incorrectly, sir.
>>> Who are you to tell me what is or is not my business, given this
>>> is Usenet, and not a closed political meeting of cigar-smoking
>>> swindlers? Is this more of your God-complex speaking? Are
>>> you acting as the guard for that closed political meeting?
>>>
>>
>>"Who are you to tell me what is or is not my business"
>>
>>Who are you to poke your nose into what is none of your business?
>>
> Who are you to tell me what is "none of your business"? That's
> your fascism talking, Sir shit-for-brains.
Your black shirt needs ironing, sir.
>
> Clearly you are the one trying to set LIMITS on my "freedom of
> speech." Pure fascism on your part.
Clearly, you are trying to tell me what to believe, what to think, what to
say, where to go. You are a fascist, sir.
>
> "If" brains were dynamite, you couldn't blow your nose.
In addition, there is the insult that you throw one at me when you feel
threatened by me, in a feeble attempt to hide your ignorance, sir.
>
>>> You really think name-calling bothers me, when I have the
>>> evidence of YOUR HOLOCAUST DENIAL!!!
>>>
>>
>>No, you don't sir
>>
> Sure I do... your exact words --
>
> 1) "You do not remember what is not in your memory and it is not in
> your memory if you did not experience or witness it firsthand."
>
> 2) "You cannot forget or remember the extermination of 6 million jews
> unless you remember them."
>
> 3) "You cannot forget or remember the extermination of
> 6 million jews unless you remember them and to remember
> them you must have experienced them first hand."
>
> etc.. etc... etc... While you do "remember" the Crusades and the
> Greeks bearing gifts!!! And below all the other murders committed
> in WW II... but you NEVER "remember" the Holocaust.
>
So where is the evidence of holocaust denial that you spoke of, sir?
>>>>I pick up the cockroach with my hand and take it outside, sir.
>>>
>>> Heh... try it sometime. Are you going to put on your "super powers"
>>> costume that "something higher than ourselves" gave you, so you can
>>> be faster than a speeding bullet, and pick up that cockroach, because
>>> it's hoping to rest in your tender arms, and will quietly wait for you
>>> to pick it up? Fat chance!!
>>
>>"Heh... try it sometime"
>>
>>I do, sir.
>
> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
How does it fail, sir?
>
> "A cockroach, for instance, flees from a predator when it detects a
> puff of air. It works out the wind direction, and acts in less than 60
> milliseconds."
>
> and --
> "High-speed videos showed that a cockroach could run 1.5 metres
> (almost five feet) per second. As it increased speed, the cockroach
> leaned back and ran on only four of its six legs. To zoom along at top
> speed, it ran on only its two back legs."
>
> See --
> http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v15/i3/animal.asp
>
> Biological facts that limit the response time of all humans show it
> is virtually impossible to reach down and pick up a cockroach with
> the fingers of your hand. At most you'll get only the slippery
> feel of the bacterial agents that cover his body, as he quickly
> rushes across the face of your baby in getting away. Unless you have
> fed that cockroach a hearty dose of vodka beforehand.
>
Therefore, it approaches my baby but when it sees me approaching it runs
away before I get near, hence my baby is safe. That has cleared that up sir.
>
> The problem did not offer a "door number three," shit-for-brains. By
> inventing one you only show your ignorance and sly attempts to cheat
> on the problem. It's that "if" factor that you want to use... the
> "if" I could pick it up before it ran on my baby I would... but you
> can't because the problem itself does not permit it.
>
"The problem did not offer a "door number three"
The problem did not offer any doors, sir.
>>>" Without a doubt. I would never let a cockroach get close to my
>>> baby if it was in my power to kill it before it did"
>>
>>Why not just move it, sir? Why are you Americans so obsessed with killing?
>
> Because that wasn't part of the "thought experiment." Look... if
> you're going to cheat and lie... then do whatever you want... but it's
> obvious that all you are doing is cheating while hoping to use ad
> hominem to attack me for wanting to protect my baby.
>
"Because that wasn't part of the "thought experiment."
Tough frogs, sir.
>
>>>>Your question is bunkum. and I have already answered it, sir.
>>>>
>>> I know you have. You would permit your baby to possibly be infected
>>> you _your friend... the cockroach_.
>>
>>So you did not read my answer, sir. Typical,, dear fellow.
>
> There is no "door number three," cheater.
You have my answer, sir.
>>> Only a fascist would argue that the opinions of others are _none of
>>> my business_.
>>
>>
>>No, sir. Only a fascist would argue that other people's opinions are his
>>business.
>
> Only a fascist objects to "freedom of speech."
Yes, you do, sir.
>>
>>>So that was your mother I saw in that room with the red light, on
>>> the Damrak
>>
>>What did she look like, sir?
>
> A drunken slut.
Yes, that's her, sir.
>
>>"Does she also perform with donkeys??"
>>
>>Is that a request, sir?
>
> Why would you think so?
Because you asked, sir.
">Does she honour requests?"
Typo corrected
I shall put your request to her, sir. Do you like the smell of stale
cigarettes, sir?
>
>>Does bestiality rock your boat, sir?
>
> Apparently it rocks yours... since you seem quite determined to
> defend your mother's video with that donkey.
>
"Apparently it rocks yours"
You were the one who requested bestiality with a donkey, sir.
>> I had
>>suspected. If you bring the donkey you usually mate with I'm sure that
>>young
>>lady you met on the Damrak might accomodate you.
>
> Your mother has her own donkey. Your sister bought it for her using
> the money that you pay your sister for those "sexual favors" she gives
> you. Those things are bad enough... but they dim in importance to
> your attempts to deny the Holocaust.
>
"Your mother has her own donkey"
She has a dog, sir. Would that do?
>>>>>> For a broken down hopeless old man
>>>>>>such as yourself, she me very likely increase the price.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not into catching diseases. But what's this "she me very..."?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"I'm not into catching diseases"
>>>>
>>>>Neither is she, sir.
>>>
>>> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>>>
>>
>>An unreferenced cite is inadmissible. Did they fail you on referencing at
>>university, sir or did you fake your certificate?
>>
>
> What "unreferenced cite"?
Is that a 'yes', sir?
>
>>>>"But what's this "she me very..."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>English is not my first language, sir. You are a xenophobic Muppet.
>>>>
>>>
>>> English is not your - any language -
>>
>>
>>English is not my first language, sir. You are a xenophobic Muppet;
>>however,
>>it is still better than yours is.
>>
> You only wish... While my wish is that you stop --
>
"You only wish"
You are guessing, sir.
>>>
>>> Heh... that from the guy who insists a cockroach is worth every bit as
>>> much as a human being. It's laughable.
>>
>>It's worth more than you are, sir.
>
> Awww... isn't that sweet... Death Disco loves murderers, but insists
> he also loves cockroaches.
I never said I was Jesus, sir.
>
>>>>>> So if womeone were to kill you it would not be murder.
>>>>>
>>>>> What the fuck is a "womeone" (sic)? Is that one of your gang member
>>>>> that I have to worry about murdering me??
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>English is not my first language, sir. You are a xenophobic Muppet.
>>>>
>>" Hey, I don't care whether English "
>>
>>Sir? You are going to have to stop your delusion that I care at all about
>>what you think.
>>
>
> And yet you're still here. The gentle reader would find that a bit
> unbelievable. You seem to care a great deal about what I think, since
> you insist that I not speak of what I think of the opinions of
> others... that you in your best fascist uniform insist is "none of
> your business." You care so much about "what I think," that you
> want to shut me up... one way or another. You're a very sick boy,
> shit-for-brains... seek help.
>
"> And yet you're still here. "
Here, sir? where is "here"?
>>> So in your native Tigrinya language the cockroach is equal to the
>>> human, and both have been told by "something higher than
>>> ourselves," that they "a right to life." Is cannibalism also part
>>> of your culture?
>>>
>>
>>"So in your native Tigrinya language "
>>
>>It makes a nice change from being called, Dutch, sir.
>
> HTH
It certainly doesn't help you, sir.
>
>>>>
>>>>AADP neither accepts nor denies anything sir. It is a newsgroup.
>>>
>>> You're repeating yourself, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>>
>>
>>You have not answered the argument, sir.
>
> Your argument is that I have no right to free speech in this newsgroup
> or any newsgroup, because you insist it's "none of your business." How
> am I supposed to answer such an argument, other than to remark that
> it's typical fascism?
>
"Your argument is that "
AADP neither accepts nor denies anything sir. It is a newsgroup.
>>>>> See --
>>>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rtfq
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>If you will post acronyms, sir.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sure... why not?
>>
>>Because you have the bandwidth to post the full expressions even if you
>>lack
>>the vocabulary, sir.
>
> If you can't figure out the acronym that only reflects upon your
> intelligence, shit-for-brains.
>
It is a four-letter acronym, sir. There are countless possibilities.
>>>
>>>>> Educated yourself, for fuck's sake. You can't stumble through
>>>>> life remaining ignorant... even if you think you can.
>>>>
>>>>I shall be right behind you in the queue, ignoramus.
>>>
>>> There is no question that reason would have the same effect on
>>> you as daylight has on Dracula.
>>
>>It would have no effect if he lay asleep in his coffin with the lid
>>closed,
>>imbecile.
>>
> > TRANSLATION " PV uses the translation service to warp an argument he
> > cannot win which is why we see it so often.."
>
>>>>"Who the hell are you to tell me what I can and can't do?"
>>>>
>>>>Who are you to tell people what to believe, what politics to support,
>>>>what
>>>>religions to support?
>>>>
>>> I've never done that... "
>>
>>Wrong, sir. You always do it. if you read a post where someone has a
>>political or a religious view you don't like, you hound them, you lie and
>>you try to humiliate and discredit them by twisting their words. You are a
>>fascist through and through, sir. In addition, you call your practice
>>"exposing people". You are lower than any cockroach, sir.
>>
>
> My, my... look at that fascist rage. All because I've humiliated
> and discredited you and your Holocaust revision.
>
"My, my... look at that fascist rage."
Yes, sir, your swastika is positively pulsing, sir.
Do you have a little moustache, sir?
>>>>" Six million Jews were exterminated by the Nazis"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>What about everyone else who were exterminated by the Nazis, sir? Don't
>>>>they count? What about those whom were tortured by the Japanese, sir?
>>>>Don't
>>>>tthey count?
>>>
>>> What about the six million Jews... don't THEY count???
>>
>>What about the Polish, sir? Don't they count? What about the Czechs, sir?
>>Don't they count? What about the norwegians, sir>? Don't they count? What
>>about the French, sir? Don't they count? What about the Bitish, sir? Don't
>>they count? What about your own people sir? Don't they count? What about
>>all
>>the other allied nations who lost people in world war 2, sir? Don't they
>>count? Then there's thecivilians, sir. Even Germany's own people were
>>subject to the tyranny, sir. Open your eyes!
>
> What about the Jews? Suddenly you "remember" the Polish, the Czechs,
> the Norwegians, the French, the British, the Americans... Yet, you
> cannot "remember" the Jews. And then you question my finding that to
> be Holocaust denial. You do know the definition of "The Holocaust" in
> its latest and most current meaning, don't you? See --
> http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/holocaust?view=uk
>
Answer the questions, sir:
What about the Polish, sir? Don't they count? What about the Czechs, sir?
Don't they count? What about the Norwegians, sir>? Don't they count? What
about the French, sir? Don't they count? What about the British, sir? Don't
they count? What about your own people sir? Don't they count? What about all
the other allied nations who lost people in world war 2, sir? Don't they
count? Then there's the civilians, sir. Even Germany's own people were
subject to the tyranny, sir. Open your eyes!
>
>>> Apparently
>>> your argument is that because others were murdered in a war in which
>>> 50 million people lost their lives, those six million Jews are
>>> insignificant.
>>
>>You're wrong again, sir. My argument is that all were significant.
>
> Yet you never mention the Jews... in fact you insist you CANNOT
> "remember" any Jews exterminated in WW II, while you certainly
> "remember" others murdered in WW II.
"you CANNOT
> "remember" any Jews exterminated in WW II"
Of course, I cannot, sir. I was not there.
"while you certainly
> "remember" others murdered in WW II."
Of course, I cannot, sir. I was not there.
>>>That only shows your anti-Semitism
>>
>>That is not possible, sir.
>
> An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
>
If that were true, sir then none of your posts would be admissible.
>>
>>>
>>>>> You're the only racist, sport. That why you need to call me a racist
>>>>> because I mentioned the Jews... the Jews who you CANNOT
>>>>> remember... but I do remember them.
>>>>
>>>>"You're the only racist, sport">
>>>>
>>>>You're guessing, "sport".
>>>
>>> It's a subjective viewpoint. White-power group members would gladly
>>> accept you as not being a racist.
>>
>>They would not, sir. They would not accept me as white, sir.
>
> An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
If that were true, sir then none of your posts would be admissible.
>
> But here it comes, gentle reader... according to Death Disco even
> White-power groups are not "White people." So obviously he argues
> that because THEY are not "White," they would not accept him as
> "White."
>
"But here it comes, gentle reader"
Pv thinks he's narrating a book.
>>>While my opinion holds that you are
>>> a racist because of the various comments you have offered in insisting
>>> that you've "never seen a Black person."
>>
>>
>>Your opinion is wrong, sir.
>>"never seen a Black person." is not racist, sir. There are no black
>>people.
>>
>
> Wrong again, sport. You may not like English definitions... you may
> even insist you don't accept English definitions.... yet there they
> are.... staring you in the face -- See --
> http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/black
Check a colour chart, sir. There are no black people.
> BLACK -- "Of or belonging to a racial group having brown to black
> skin, especially one of African origin: the Black population of South
> Africa." Notice that "Black" in that case is capitalized. Just as
> Italian, or French, or German is capitalized. But then you claim
> you've never seen an Italian, or French, or German, either. It's
> those damn cockroaches, that have your affection... all 4,000
> recognized species of cockroaches.
>
"> BLACK -- "Of or belonging to a racial group having brown to black
> skin,"
There are no people with black skin, sir.
If course the expression, "browns" would be pointless as that would
categorize everyone except for albinos. However, I look forward to your
explaining away your obsession with skin colour, sir.
>>You hear voices, sir?
>>
> I hear you claiming to hear voices from "nature," "biology," and
> "something higher than ourselves." It's no feat to hear voices
> from REAL PEOPLE. But it's quite a feat for you to claim you
> hear voices from abstractions such as "nature," "biology," and
> "something higher than ourselves." Do you also hear voices
> from your friend... the cockroach???
>
"I hear you claiming to hear voices from "nature," "biology"
I shall take that as a "yes", sir.
>>>>English is not easy to master, sir. You are 78 and you are still
>>>>struggling with it.
>>>
>>> Oh, gee... I'm shattered. Death Disco, who hope to annihilate the
>>>English language by insisting if he sees a definition he _doesn't
>>>like_ he simply refuses to accept it, tells me I'm struggling with
>>>English.
>>
>>You should be, sir.
>
> Really, my ignorant juvenile spoiled brat... if you feel attacking me
> because of my age is somehow relevant, it only shows how miserably
> inadequate, and filled with hate, and Holocaust denial, your arguments
> are.
>
"> Really, my ignorant juvenile spoiled brat"
Oh dear.
In addition, there is the insult that you throw one at me when you feel
threatened by me, in a feeble attempt to hide your ignorance, sir.
>>>>et one fact straight, dear fellow. What you and I do here
>>>>is what the British call "Banter". It is harmless fun for both of us, I
>>>>hope. There is no threat to your health or any form of physical violence
>>>>from me, sir. That is not my way. I detest people who beleive they can
>>>>win
>>>>arguments with thier fists. It's a losing strategy from day one. You
>>>>will
>>>>get no such threat from me, sir.
>>>
>>> And yet..... you "warned me." Strange...
>>
>>The only thing that's strange is you, sir.
>
> TRANSLATION " PV uses the translation service to warp an argument he
> cannot win which is why we see it so often.."
>>>
>>> This one is quite enough to have made a complete fool of you.
>>
>>Only in your fantasies, sir.
>
> It's always nice to meet up with someone like you... since it makes
> my limited intellect positively glow in brilliance in comparison.
"It's always nice to meet up with someone like you"
Who annihilates your every argument sir. I expect you meet up with someone
who does that quite frequently, sir.
>
> Now about those nine problems...
Are those the nine problems that you psychiatrist diagnosed? When will he
diagnose the rest of your problems, sir?
-
J
>
>
>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:i7fo16tpc4pq0dvfm...@4ax.com...
>
>> On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 19:10:15 +0100, "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hey... Sir shit-for-brains. Did you forget this one??? Here it is
>> again.
>>
>
>I had previously imagined that you abandoned this thread as you were
>obviously out of your depth.
ROTFLMAO. The moment you saw that response from me, you immediately
disappeared for a week. And that's a FACT, since you cannot produce a
comment from you during the period 8 June until 16 June.
>Have you been poking around that substantial
>bookshelf again, sir?
"You're just guessing." While I have you on RECORD as stating that
during your education you admit -- "I do remember nothing."
And yet there are the answers from me you keep raving about, while not
a single question of mine has been answered by you. In other words --
YOU'RE A FRAUD!!! Capitals used to emphasize that now proven fact.
>>>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>news:ah5r06do51ge3jus8...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 20:55:05 +0100, "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Finally have some spare time to wipe out the wimp...
>>>>>
>>>>>I look forward to seeing that sir.
>>
>> Apparently you have a masochist streak in you.
>
>
>No, sir.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>>> I've had more important things to do than wipe the floor with
>>>> someone who spends his days playing "dungeons and dragons,"
>>>> as you do, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>>
>>>I am keen to meet the fellow, sir. He must have been asleep, or drunk or
>>>both, sir.
>>
>> So you admit to being asleep, or drunk or both.
>
>Well I have slept, since, sir.
I'm sure you have... too bad you don't study as much as you sleep.
Your words -- "I do remember nothing."
>>>>>>>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:l2db06hcao304a4bg...@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 31 May 2010 14:56:34 +0100, "Death Disco"
>>>>>>>> <iseer...@pIL.co>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>><snip>
>>>>
>>>>What's curious is how you managed to tune your tin hat antenna to pick
>>>>up voices from "something higher than ourselves." What frequency
>>>>is it where you hear those voices from "something higher than
>>>>ourselves"?
>>>>>" But you're no longer worth my time"
>>>>>
>>>>>Was perfectly clear, sir. You cannot take time back, you know.
>>>>
>>>> Your "something higher than ourselves" told you that??
>
>
>You needed something higher than you to tell you that? Something higher than
>you did tell you that, sir and that something higher was me, sir.
>
Only more of your psychotic God-complex, Sir shit-for-brains. Now you
believe YOU are that "something higher than ourselves," that you've
been psychotically raving about. But let's be clear... when you
insist you are "higher" than any other person, that is just a
manifestation of racism. It places you on the same platform with those
who insisted they were "the Aryan race."
>>>>>No sir. I was asserting the obvious truth.
>>>>
>>>>Are you brain-dead??? When you "assert," you are declaring! Even a
>>>>trained chimpanzee could understand that, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>>>
>
>"Are you brain-dead??? "
>
>A bizarre question, sir, as asking a question to a brain dead person will
>give you no answer.
That's why I asked it, Sir shit-for-brains. Keep in mind that before
my comment you once wrote the following insult as a question -- "Have
you always been this retarded, sir or is it a product of your brain
death?" As you now say... asking a question to a brain dead person
will give you no answer. How's it feel to be skewered by your own
words? Feel a bit black... like a pot to a kettle?
>>>I see you are still trying to avoid your own screwups, sir.
>>
>> I see you are still trying to avoid admitting that a voice from
>> "something higher than ourselves," has been talking to you
>> personally.
>>
>
>It would be pointless to admit to something that never occurred, sir.
>
And yet you insist that you KNOW "something higher than ourselves,"
has provided this "right to life for all viruses, microbes, sea
urchins, cockroaches, vermin, plants, dust mites, tree moss, and
itsy-bitsy spiders." We have Death Disco calling housewives
"serial killers" for using a vacuum cleaner. How many "murders"
(sic) has your mother committed in the past week, Death Disco?
Or doesn't she clean the house?
>>>>>> I haven't yet lost any money betting on your ignorance, Sir
>>>>>> shit-for-brains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>That is because you didn't bet any, sir.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>>
>>>Are the bailiffs banging on your door, sir? Hmm? Do they shout through
>>>your letter box of that all so very bright home of yours, sir? Are they
>>>threatening to take it away from you because you cannot pay your gambling
>>>debts, sir. You should give it up, sir. You are no good at it.
>>
>> I'm racking in the money. But aren't those guys in the white coats
>> with the straight jackets banging on your door, Sir
>> shit-for-brains?
>>
>
>"I'm racking in the money"
>
>Racking? Sir?
>
Answer the question, Sir shit-for-brains.
RACK -- "to accumulate or achieve something." See --
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Racking
RACKING -- "To tally, accumulate, or amass as an achievement
or score: Example -- "The corporation racked up the greatest
profits in its history."
See --
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/rack
RACK -- To accumulate or score. Example: rack up points.
Of course you would argue -- "if i (sic) do not approve of a
definition I simply choose not to use it."
>>>>>"All people are "special," "
>>>>>
>>>>>You certainly are, sir.
>>>>
>>>> All people are "special," even you, you sick in the head racist.
>>>
>>>You certainly are, sir.
>>
>> You're especially "special." As humans we need to pity those who are
>> mentally unstable, as you are.
>>
>
>"You're especially "special." "
>
>
>How quick witted you are, sir. It only took two attempts before you tried to
>copy my logic. Is this because you have none of your own, sir?
When have you EVER demonstrated your ability to be logical???
>>>>>
>>>>>Are you bored with your own repetition, sir?
>>>>
>>>> You mean YOUR repetition, sport...
>>>
>>>No, sir. I mean, your repetion..
>>
>> And yet you can't stop lying.
>
>You are guessing, sir.
And you've just lied again. While I can certainly prove you lie...
such as when you stated -- "Killing carries a custodial sentence, even
if it is in self-defence. That is British law, of course." That
is a LIE. Proven a lie using hard evidence from the British
"Crown Prosecution Service," which, despite your psychotic
belief you are God, trumps your claim.
>>>>
>>>> You're insane...
>>>
>>>My, dear fellow. Pot, kettle, black.
>>
>> So you admit you're insane. And insist I'm insane for recognizing
>> that you're insane. Finally... a breakthrough!!!
>>
>
>"> So you admit you're insane"
>
>
>No, sir.
Heh...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>>>>
>>>>>Apparently not, sir. There is no dent in my head
>>>>
>>>> I'll bet you haven't checked carefully in your scalp... look for a
>>>> "666" mark.
>>>
>>>You are a Christian, sir.
>>>
>>
>> No, Sir shit-for-brains... you have me mixed up with your
>> Bible-thumping self. After all... I don't claim to hear voices
>
>
>"No, Sir shit-for-brains"
>
>"... look for a
>>>> "666" mark."
>
>A Christian remark, sir. You are a Christian, sir.
>
You know what it means, so using your "logic" (sic) you must
be Christian.
"666" is a religious symbolic legend. Nothing else. While an
educated person, even if not religious in any way, KNOWS what it
implies, simply because he IS EDUCATED -- regardless of any personal
religious connection. If I mention that the Koran states that --
"Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God
has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience,
admonish them and forsake them in beds apart, and beat them," See --
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/koran.jpg
that doesn't mean I am Muslim. It only means I have educated myself
in the thinking of those who are Muslim, not that I am Muslim because
I know what is in the Koran.
You've once again fallen into the logical fallacy of presuming because
A implies B (Christians are those who know the Bible), that proves B
implies A (those who know the Bible are Christians). Education
should not be limited to only what one believes in, but what one does
not believe in to know what those who do believe are thinking, and
believing. To not limit the range and scope of the knowledge you
should seek, because "it is in man's nature to know." It's the search
to gain KNOWLEDGE of as many things as possible... to have a
"catholic" (not the capitalized "Catholic," but "catholic" meaning "Of
broad and liberal scope of knowledge") thirst to know as much about
things as possible. Since you are a bit retarded when it comes to
more than one definition in the English language... See --
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/catholic
I know you're trying, Sir shit-for-brains... but that's no reason that
I should give you some slack when you demonstrate this incredible
stupidity in the English language. If you can't handle the heat, and
need to make EXCUSES for your slender grasp of the English language,
then you should just gravitate to a newsgroup in your mother-tongue.
So either do that, or stop making excuses for you English by pointing
out that it's not your mother tongue, because I don't give a damn,
and will call you out for every illogical argument you offer,
regardless. That's how the game is played. I'm not here to
teach you English.
You're dealing with an educated person, Sir shit-for-brains....
something you've probably never had to deal with in your short
life on this tiny planet. "666" is something that an EDUCATED
person knows about... from various stimuli received during his
life having given him the knowledge of what it is implied to
mean to those who are Christians. I even know the Biblical
source, which is the Book of Revelation, and that 666 is referred to
as "the number of the beast." Which is why the thought came
to my mind when thinking about you.
Because I am not religious you insist in another of your psychotic
God-complex episodes that I must remain ignorant of all religious
folklore and fairy tales. I also know the definition of what a
"ghost" is, but that doesn't mean I believe in ghosts. Educate
yourself, damn it... don't stay ignorant of things just because they
don't refer to the tight ass little world you've allowed yourself to
be caught in.
Do you know how many non-Christians send out "Christmas
cards," at that time of the year? Do you know that both the UK
and the U.S. consider the day of 25 December to be "Christmas
Day"? See --
http://www.year-planner-calendar.wanadoo.co.uk/2011-public-holidays.htm
and --
http://www.opm.gov/operating_status_schedules/fedhol/2011.asp
Does that mean everyone who takes that holiday is a Christian???
But you're the Bible-thumper, insisting that there is "something
higher than ourselves," but then claiming you don't know what it
is.... but it is. And in arguing it "is," you are thumping on the
Bible. You call yourself an "agnostic," but you believe in "something
higher than ourselves," thus you are caught in ANOTHER lie,
because an agnostic does NOT believe. An agnostic argues
that HE WOULD believe if he had proof that there is a God....
but there IS NO PROOF. You insist there is a God... a "something
higher than ourselves," without proof.
quod erat demonstrandum: You are not an agnostic.
>> from "something higher than ourselves," as you do.
>>
>
>I made no such claim, sir.
Of course you did, Sir shit-for-brains. These were your exact
words -- "That honour is strictly owned by something higher than
ourselves." What is that "something higher than the biological
homo Sapiens?" Is it a rock? Is it a cloud? Is it a thunderstorm?
If you insist that there IS "something higher than ourselves,"
then you should be able to PROVE it. If you can't then it's just
more of your psychotic God-complex at work.
Once you go down that road, insisting there IS "something higher
than ourselves," you are entering the magical imaginary Easter
Bunny world of THEOLOGY... Bible-thumping belief in the
imaginary... the "unknown".. the spooky... the ghosts... the
spirits... the goblins... the pixies ... the presence of the
supernatural... the Easter Bunny... and the Tooth Fairy.
While there is NO proof there is an entity "higher than ourselves,"
unless you claim it is the "cockroach." Mental abstractions do
not provide PROOF, since they are all dependent on subjective
viewpoints of each individual... thus they are only a product
of FAITH... religious faith that there IS "something higher than
ourselves." While you have no objective evidence of such an
entity existing. But hiding behind the farce of insisting it is
"unknown," yet you insist you KNOW IT IS "something higher
than ourselves." That's based on FAITH... based on RELIGION...
based on your psychotic belief that you are God almighty himself...
based on BULLSHIT.
>>>>>We should remind yourself why you think I'm Dutch sir
>>>>
>>>> Who's this "we," Sir shit-for-brains?
>>>>
>>>>>"
>>>>>Bet you're Dutch, with a dingleberry hanging from your ass because
>>>>>of your unhygienic paedomorphic habits. You're certainly
>>>>>not Italian... I am almost mother-tongue fluent in Italian having
>>>>>learned most of it before I was 14, and then taking it as my
>>>>>minor in college. You're not French... my wife is mother-tongue
>>>>>French, born and raised in Paris... so I can do very well in
>>>>>the French spoken language, and good enough in the written
>>>>>language. You're not German... I spent 20 years in Germany,
>>>>>and can keep up a fairly good conversation, because people
>>>>>tend to overlook grammatical mistakes in respect to "der" "die"
>>>>>"das" gender notation and case endings when speaking, although
>>>>>my written German could use a lot of work, for which I do not
>>>>>have time, and no longer have the drive I once had. I don't think
>>>>>you're Spanish or Portuguese. Nor from the former East bloc.
>>>>>And since you mention ...
>>>>>
>>>>>"
>>>>
>>>> Man, that was a real logical and convincing observation on my part, if
>>>> I do say so myself.
>>>
>>>You do, sir?
>>
>> Do you also have a reading disability?? After all, you don't want to
>
>
>
>"> Do you also have a reading disability?? "
>
>No, sir; do you?
"You're just guessing." But how would YOU know? Since you have
already stated emphatically that -- "It is unknown therefor (sic) I
cannot know it," and also stated that you "remember nothing." In one
ear... out the other.
>> wipe that dingleberry away... just think of all the germs you'd be
>> "murdering" (sic)... ROTFLMAO. I'll bet you're afraid to even sit,
>> in fear you might crush some of those germs.
>>
>>>>>Cite:
>>>>>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>>>>>From: Planet Visitor II <hidden to protect privacy>
>>>>>Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 00:11:17 -0400
>>>>>Local: Thurs, May 27 2010 5:11 am
>>>>>Subject: Re: High court rules out life sentences for some juveniles
>>>>>
>>>>>"I am almost mother-tongue fluent in Italian having
>>>>>learned most of it before I was 14, and then taking it as my
>>>>>minor in college"
>>>>>
>>>>>This is your logic for thinking I'm not Italian, sir?
>>>>
>>>> Well, try me, if you are Italian. Prove it.
>>>
>>>">>"I am almost mother-tongue fluent in Italian having
>>>>>learned most of it before I was 14, and then taking it as my
>>>>>minor in college"
>>>"
>>>
>>>How exactly does your comment prove that I am not Italian, sir?
>>>
>> It proves TO ME that you are not Italian.
>
>How does that prove to YOU that I am not Italian, sir?
Heh... remember your words -- "I am not obliged to prove anything to
you, sir."? Stuff that in your ear and catch it when it comes out
the other ear.
>>That's
>> good enough for me. Are you now invoking one of your
>> fascist commands that I am forbidden to "think"???
>>
>">That's
>> good enough for me"
>
>
>
>Of course, it is, sir. You have made it obvious that your standards are
>lower than everyone else's, sir.
"You're just guessing"
>>>>>"You're not French... my wife is mother-tongue
>>>>>French, born and raised in Paris... "
>>>>>
>>>>>This is your logic for thinking I'm not French, sir?
>>>>
>>>> Well, try me, if you are French. Prove it.
>>>
>>>How exactly does your comment prove that I am not French, sir?
>>>
>> It proves TO ME that you are not French. That's
>> good enough for me. Are you now invoking one of your
>> fascist commands that I am forbidden to "think"???
>>
>
>"> It proves TO ME that you are not French"
>
>How does that prove to YOU that I am not French, sir?
Heh... remember your words -- "I have no obligation to prove my
arguments or to answer anything."? Stuff that in your ear and catch
it when it comes out the other ear.
>"That's> good enough for me. "
>
>Of course, it is, sir. You have made it obvious that your standards are
>lower than everyone else's, sir.
"You're just guessing."
Damn... this is so easy when we do it your way.
>>>>>"You're not German... I spent 20 years in Germany,
>>>>>and can keep up a fairly good conversation, because people
>>>>>tend to overlook grammatical mistakes in respect to "der" "die"
>>>>>"das" gender notation and case endings when speaking, although
>>>>>my written German could use a lot of work, for which I do not
>>>>>have time, and no longer have the drive I once had"
>>>>>
>>>>>This is your logic for thinking I'm not German, sir?
>>>>
>>>> Well, try me, if you are German. Prove it.
>>>
>>>How exactly does your comment prove that I am not German, sir?
>>
>> It proves TO ME that you are not German. That's
>> good enough for me. Are you now invoking one of your
>> fascist commands that I am forbidden to "think"???
>>
>
>"It proves TO ME that you are not German"
>
>How does that prove to YOU that I am not German, sir?
Heh... remember your words -- "I am the exclusive author of my issue
and only I have the authority to make and declerations(sic) base (sic)
upon it"? Stuff that in your ear and catch it when it comes out the
other ear.
>"That's> good enough for me. "
>
>Of course, it is, sir. You have made it obvious that your standards are
>lower than everyone else's, sir.
You're just guessing. See that two can PLAY at your GAME, Sir (he
who never answers any questions) shit-for-brains.
>>>>>You neglected to post your reasoning for believing me Dutch, sir.
>>>>
>>>> Because I don't speak Dutch, and the Dutch offer quite a
>>>> bit of education in the English language.
>>>
>>>That is your reason for thinking me Dutch, sir? I can see you have not
>>>thought this through.
>>
>> I think everything through, Sir shit-for-brains. I form my opinions
>> independent of arguments from the deranged... like you.
>
>"> I think everything through"
>
>Then it is curious that you are so bad at it, sir. I would suggest that you
>get more practice but it does not appear to be helping you, sir.
"You're just guessing."
>>>>>As should you, sir.
>>>>
>>>> I "remember" quite a bit of events that happened before I was born,
>>>
>>>No you don't, sir. You was not there.
>>
>> ROTFLMAO... You mean "were not there." And yet I "remember"
>> them. Are you now in your fascist method intending to tell me what
>> I can and cannot "remember"? The fact that I "was not there" is
>> irrelevant to whether it happened before or after I was born. I
>> can "remember" the Kennedy assassination, even though I "was
>> not there." "Being there" is irrelevant to what our minds are
>> capable of "remembering."
>
>"And yet I "remember"
>> them"
>
>No, you do not sir. You WERE not there.
You're not God, Sir shit-for-brains. So don't play the role of your
psychotic belief that you are God thinking you can order me to not
"remember" what you don't want me to "remember."
I'm not a Holocaust denier like you, and I can well remember that six
million Jews were exterminated in Europe less than 70 years ago, in
the Nazi effort to exterminate European Jewry. If I couldn't remember
it... how could I possibly RELATE that FACT to you? You insist that
it is NOT a FACT if one has not "experienced it first hand." If it
were not "in my memory," as you insist it is not in YOUR memory, how
can you dare claim you even KNOW there was a Holocaust of Jews?
You're the one trying to deny FACTS, claiming you can't "remember"
FACTS. Which argues there IS no such FACT!
I suppose you "remember" that the earth is relatively shaped as a
sphere, rather than flat. If so, have you actually "experienced
first hand" walking the entire earth in order to "remember" it? Or is
it enough that you "remember" being SHOWN (rather than
experiencing it first hand) proof that the earth is not flat?
>>>>>>>I did not, sir.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>>>>
>>>>>Denying something doesn't automatically make the denier a liar, sir.
>>>>>
>>>> It doesn't make the denier suddenly speak the truth when it is
>>>> obvious that he speaks a lie. That seems to be your implication.
>>>
>>>Denial proves or disproves nothing, sir.
>>
>> You seem determined to deny.
>
>In response to your guesses, yes, sir.
"You're just guessing."
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes you did, you little Holocaust denier.
>>>>>
>>>>>I did not, sir.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, you did, Sir shit-for-brains. And you're also a Holocaust
>>>> denier... claiming you hear voices.
>>>
>>>I did not, sir.
>>
>> Sure you did. You related that "something higher than ourselves"
>> had TOLD you that there is "a right to life for all biological life."
>> Claiming that it is "murder" to kill any biological life... including
>> cockroaches... making each of us a murderer a million, billion times,
>> each time we wash our hands. No wonder they call you "the
>> unwashed." You're determined to "murder" (sic) as few of those
>> germs as possible. If that "something higher than ourselves" didn't
>> TELL you there is such a "right to life," how did you come into that
>> information? Was it pixies... or the Tooth Fairy... or the Easter
>> Bunny... or Santa Claus??? Or was it your "mommy" making
>> you say your prayers to that "something higher than ourselves"???
>>
>
>"Sure you did"
>
>Sure, I did not, sir.
LOL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>>>>>>> Are you now denying those were your words?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>No, sir.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then you admit you are a Holocaust denier. Don't think you are?
>>>>>> Well, let me ask you... do you "remember" that there was an
>>>>>> extermination of six million Jews in the 20th Century???
>>>>>
>>>>>"Then you admit you are a Holocaust denier"
>>>>>
>>>>>No sir.
>>>>
>>>> If you claim you don't "remember" it happening, that is a clear
>>>> indication that you "deny" it happening.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Your logic does not follow normal rational reasoning, sir.
>>>
>> To your deep annoyance, it follows perfect logical reasoning.
>> See --
>> http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/remember
>> Since you are xenophobic toward the "the British."
>>
>
>"it follows perfect logical reasoning"
>
>No it does not, sir
"You're just guessing."
>
>> REMEMBER -- "to be able to bring back a piece of information into your
>> mind, or to keep a piece of information in your memory"
>> Or --
>> "to be kept in people's memories because of a particular action or
>> quality"
>> Or --
>> "to hold a special ceremony to honour a past event or someone who has
>> died"
>>
>> There is nothing that argues we cannot "remember" what we did not
>> "experience first hand." And we certainly didn't "have to be there"
>> to remember something happened.
>
>You remember the information, sir. You remember the news, the newspaper or
>the article in the book, sir because you read or saw them on television. You
>cannot remember something you did not experience, sir.
Please don't use your psychotic belief that you are God, and can tell
me what I can and cannot "remember." One does not need to
"experience" an event to "remember" it, and the circumstances
surrounding it. It's called an EDUCATION. You should try it sometime
in the future.
>> But then you've already insisted in your fascist way, that if you
>> don't like a definition you just refuse to accept it. But in this
>> case you are also INVENTING your own definitions in the English
>> language in which you presume to demand that "remember"
>> is defined as "only having experienced first hand" what you can
>> "remember." How neat that is for the Nazis. Or the neo-Nazis
>> of today.
>>
>>>>>> Yet you fondly "remember" the Greeks. You naughty boy, you.
>>>>>
>>>>>Only the ones I've met, sir.
>>>>
>>>> Heh... that must have been a night of debauchery.
>>>
>>>A night, sir? Nobody goes to Greece for just one night, sir.
>>>
>>
>> Zoommm...... that one flew right over your pointy head.
>>
>>>
>>>>Don't bother sharing the sordid details...
>>>
>>>I won't, sir.
>>>
>> Thank you.
>
>You are welcome, sir.
Totally unnecessary.
>>>
>>>
>>>> this is a family oriented newsgroup.
>>>
>>>Since when, sir?
>>
>> Zooommm...... so did that one.
>
>
>Are you speeding, sir? Such is not advisable for someone of your advanced
>epoch.
No, Sir shit-for-brains... it was to signify that the intention of my
comment was totally lost on you. It "flew (zoomed) over your head." I
still believe you have no idea what the reason was that I mentioned
something called "the sordid details"? I'm sure others are not as
naive and child-like in their reasoning process. Try looking up the
Urban dictionary of the word "Greek."
>>>>>>>You claimed that you could, "hear" me, sir.
>>>>>>>Any fear that you experience is your own, sir. If you were to be able
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>feel my emotions sir, you would feel my amusement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>>>>
>>>>>There was no denial, sir. You responses are getting more random, dear
>>>>>fellow.
>>>>
>>>> Need I point out again --
>>>
>>>Not if it is your usual gibberish, sir.
>>>
>> The truth has never been something that you want to see, Sir
>> shit-for-brains. You believe you can "invent" your own truth.
>>
>
>"The truth has never been something"
>
>That you have ever told, sir.
"You're just guessing," Sir shit-for-brains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Shall we wait for you temper tantrum to calm down, sir?
>>>>
>>>> Heh... as the Dalai Lama noted -- "If a human being never
>>>> shows anger, then I think something's wrong. He's not
>> right in the brains" See --
>>>>http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1993865,00.html
>>>
>>>Are you planning to re-interpret his word too, sir?
>>
>> Are you still unable to follow a link, you little liar?? Didn't I
>> give you a link to his words? Just as I do with your words
>> that indict you as an admitted "murderer" (sic). (I saw you wash
>> your hands... you brutal killer, you. What about that "Right to life"
>> for those "poor innocent creatures... the germs"?) Have you
>> thought about turning yourself in to the authorities and claiming
>> "self-defense"??? ROTFLMAO.
>>
>
>"Are you still unable to follow a link"
>
>No, sir. I made no claim to being unable to follow the link, sir.
>
So you admit you were just lying when you stated that I was "planning
to re-interpret his words."
I'll take that as your apology.
>>>>>"I never, ever lie. "
>>>>>
>>>>>Anothr lie, sir.
>>>>
>>>> Really, you admit you lied???
>>>
>>>Yes, sir.
>>
>> Well then why don't you stop lying?
>
>You first, sir.
>
"You're just guessing."
>>
>>>"little boy, "
>>>
>>>You're guessing again, sir.
>>>
>>
>> And yet there is no evidence that you are not a "little boy, with
>> an equally little brain."
>
>There is no evidence that I am either.
And yet that's all you have to say. A very sad attempt at denial
while you have rolled yourself up in the fetal position in a corner
of your dark room.
>Just as there is no evidence that
>your posted qualifications were not forged, yet there is evidence to suggest
>that they are.
An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
However if you ASSERT that "there is evidence to suggest that they
are" forged, then YOU have the responsibility of proving it... or it
can simply be presumed that you are trying to smear me with
another of your own lies.
>> Is it also your fascist demand that I "stop guessing"??? Any
>> other orders for me, Gruppenführer Disco???
>
>Your black shirt needs ironing, sir.
And your death head hat, and your swastika armband need some cleaning,
Gruppenführer Disco.
>>>>>>>"While opinions are like ass holes... everyone has one"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>They do sir? So you have only the one opinion. Curious
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Opinions." "ass holes." The "s" in English means plural. I don't
>>>>>> know what it means in your mother-tongue which is apparently Tigrinya.
>>>>>
>>>>>" "Opinions." "ass holes." The "s" in English means plural"
>>>>>
>>>>>"While opinions are like ass holes... everyone has 'one'"
>>>>>
>>>>>The "one" implies singular, sir.
>>>>
>>>> "Opinions".... plural. "one".... used as a pronoun... for example ...
>>>> the simple English constructed sentence -- "she visited ONE of her
>>>> cousins." Notice that she does not have only ONE cousin. Thus
>>>> a person does not have only ONE opinion.
>>>>
>>>> Chee... but you are uneducated.
>>>
>>>You're guessing again, sir.
>>
>> Well, you obviously are not educated in the English language in
>> respect to the use of plurals.
>
>Your words, sir: "While opinions are like ass holes... everyone has 'one'"
>
>"everyone has 'one'"; indicates a singular, and not a plural, sir.
An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible. However,
you are wrong... As EVIDENCE - I submit that I pointed out the
grammatically correct sentence of "she visited ONE of her cousins."
You would argue that "one" cannot be stated if it refers to a
plural... Yet "cousins" is a plural and the sentence is absolutely
grammatically accurate.
Given your very slender grasp of the English language I would
suggest you find other avenues to bitch about, since I'm not here
to teach you English.
>>>>>"Heh... I believe you actually looked at a dictionary"
>>>>>
>>>>>When one is learning a language, it is useful to browse a dictionary of
>>>>>that language sir. It is a practice that I reccomend you try.
>>>>
>>>> Too bad you slept through most of that education. But I think you're
>>>> sweating
>>>> about now... because I picked the right nation.
>>>
>>>Your refusal to educate yourself has been noted, sir.
>>
>>TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
>> I wasn't what he found me to be so I could show he is not correct,
>> but the bastard hit the nail right on the head."
Hah... don't have an answer for that one... do you, Sir
shit-for-brains?
>>>>>"Don't blame me for your illiteracy"
>>>>>Numeracy, my dear fellow; not literacy.
>>>>
>>>> The terms are not mutually exclusive, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>>
>>>So you do not understand the expression, "mutually exclusive", either.
>>
>> You stupid, stupid child. The term "mutually exclusive" means
>> that both events cannot occur at the same time. The two events
>> in question in this argument are --
>> 1) Your illiteracy.
>> 2) Your inability to understand numeracy.
>>
>
>"You stupid, stupid child"
>
>You are guessing, sir.
>
Wrong... I'm offering FACTS and EVIDENCE. You should try it some
time rather than whining like a little baby who has just had his
pacifier taken away (probably by one of those cockroaches that you
wouldn't harm).
>> I said that they are NOT "mutually exclusive," you implied that they
>> ARE "mutually exclusive." "Mutually exclusive" is a term that I am
>> quite familiar with, since logic circuits often use it. Such circuits
>> are called XOR gates. See --
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XOR_gate
>>
>
>"I said that they are NOT "mutually exclusive,""
>
>Yes, sir and I replied, So you do not understand the expression, "mutually
>exclusive", either.
No proof offered. Your claim fails. But did I mention that you're
a "stupid, stupid child"?
>>>>>
>>>>>There was no denial sir. Your confusion is increasing.
>>>>
>>>> Don't you ever get tired of repeating the same mindless drivel?
>>>
>>>Do you, sir?
>>
>> Given that I only repeat your "mindless drivel" why would I
>> get tired of it?
>
>
>"Given that I only repeat your "mindless drivel""
>
>No, sir; you only ever repeat yours.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>
>>>>>""No sir. You were the one whom (sic) "fucked
>>>>>> up" lightspeed, sir."
>>>>>
>>>>>You did, sir. you claimed it was 300,000,000 M/s.
>>>>
>>>> No, Sir shit-for-brains... I said "presuming the velocity of light is
>>>> exactly 300,000,000 meters/per second."
>>>
>>>But it isn't, sir.
>>
>> So what? The velocity of light is only a constant in a vacuum.
>> Scientists have slowed down light to a crawl when going through
>> various mediums. The question did not ask for the "speed
>> of light in a vacuum." It asked to PRESUME the velocity of light
>> is exactly 300,000,000 meters/ per second. Apparently you admit
>> you can't follow directions.
>> http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/15-11/st_alphageek
>>
>
>"So what? "
>
>Therefore, you got it wrong, sir.
>
"You're just guessing." While the FACTS and the EVIDENCE show that
I stated quite clearly that one should PRESUME "the velocity of light
is exactly 300,000,000 meters/per second." It did not ask that one
should COMPUTE the velocity of light, or RESEARCH the velocity of
light - because it was GIVEN as an approximation to be USED as an
approximation. Apparently you only showed that you are illiterate
in the English language and unable to comprehend questions in the
English language. The FACTS and the EVIDENCE show in absolute
terms that your answer did not agree with the parameters stipulated
in the question. In fact, if I asked you to use "the speed of light"
it would be logically insufficient information, since you offered "the
speed of light in a vacuum," and the speed of light in many other
mediums is not the same. For example, the speed of light in H2O is
approximately 75% of the speed of light in a vacuum. See -
http://tinyurl.com/27f3ba4
Here it is shown that the speed of light in water, fused quartz, crown
glass, dense flint glass, and diamond are considerably slower than
the speed of light in a vacuum.
>>>"The question was posed to not use a calculator or references"
>>>
>>>That is not your decision, sir.
>>>
>> Rubbish... every question is based upon certain parameters, including
>> what can be used in solving the question.
>>
>
>"Rubbish"
>
>You are incorrect again, sir.
"You're just guessing." If you think you can walk into taking
any test and do anything you want, or bring anything you want,
you are due for a sudden shock when you do take a test.
Your argument claims that you can take a driving expert with
you if you WANT TO, when you take the written driver's examination,
and he can advise you as to what answers are correct. Test
administrators determine everything as to what is permissible when
taking a test. That is what is known as a FACT. Do try harder to
separate fact from your fantasies and your psychotic God-complex.
>>>> Good grief... it's so difficult for me to deal with the juvenile
>>>> uneducated.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Looking the in mirror must be a real problem for you then, sir.
>>
>> Too bad you have such terrible problems in the English language.
>> "Looking the in mirror"??? What is that supposed to mean?
>
>"Too bad you have such terrible problems in the English language"
>
>Hardly, sir; you've been using the English language for around 70 years
>whereas I've been speaking it for around a fifth of a century and I still
>have a greater mastery of it than you do, sir.
"You're just guessing." I'll bet I speak better Dutch than you do.
>>>> Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole? It only
>>>> makes the post longer than it already is. You see my words,
>>>> answer them when you see them... and not three pages later.
>>>
>>>"Why do you keep repeating my words, you silly asshole?"
>>>
>>>To respond to them, sir.
>>
>> You don't need to repeat them to respond to them, Sir shit-for-brains.
>> Respond to them as you read them.
>>
>"You don't need to repeat them to respond to them"
>
>Yes, I do sir
No. You don't! It's incredibly ignorant of you to argue that you
"need" to REPEAT my words, when you can do the same thing by
simply responding as you read those words, and add a ">"
to the next line of mine to indicate that those are my words
again. The ">" is there for the reader to use in determining
who wrote what... and you simply confuse the issue when you
constantly repeat my words, in addition to making the post
almost twice as lengthy.
You only do it because you're too ignorant and juvenile to do
otherwise.
> or as you have demonstrated previously;
You're full of shit.
> you get confused
>regarding what part of your paragraph I am responding to.
>
"you're just guessing." Notice that I broke up your sentence,
without having to repeat your idiotic comment, simply by
responding at a point which recognizes your words, and then
adding that ">" to the first line of your following words, just
before the "you get."
This is not rocket science, you pathetic sub-functional moron.
>>>>>That you didn't spot my quarter wave mistake or pinpoint where my first
>>>>>mistake was wrong? Yes sir. That is very strange.
>>>>
>>>> I'm very forgiving of your basic ignorance.
>>>
>>>I am less forgiving of yours.
>>
>> That's because there is nothing to forgive.
>
>Your ignorance is beyond forgiveness, sir.
>
"You're just guessing."
>>>>
>>>>>>>I have built one in a while. What
>>>>>>>about you, sir? When did you last build one?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL..." I have built one in a while," too. You ignorant child. Are
>>>>>> you also this stupid in your mother tongue? Don't lie now.
>>>>>
>>>>>I shall take that as a "Never". shall I ,sir.
>>>>
>>>> Since the word "never" does not appear in my comment,
>>>
>>>You avoided the question, sir.
>>>
>> You presumed to create a word that is not within my comment.
>> Further, I was making a mockery of your comment by mimicking
>> your exact words which made no sense whatsoever. Those words
>> of yours were "I have built one in a while." What the hell is
>> that supposed to mean?
>>
>
>The question was, "when did you last build one, sir?"
>
No, sport.. you wrote "I have built one in a while." And as
my answer to your question - my answer was "I have built one in a
while," too. Chee... it's like I'm trying to explain brain surgery to
a three-year-old.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"I'm not the authority. I'm the messenger"
>>>>>
>>>>>You are neither, sir.
>>>>
>>>> But you implied I was the "authority" behind my argument, when it's
>>>> obvious that the AUTHORITY is "Bureau International des Poids et
>>>> Mesures. The International System of Units - le Système international
>>>> d'unités." That is... a lesser authority to those voices you hear
>>>> from "something higher than ourselves." He he he he he. You
>>>> psychotic fruitcake. Tell me again how you know more than the
>>>> Bureau International des Poids et Mesures. The International System
>>>> of Units - le Système international d'unités.
>>>>
>>>
>>>"But you implied "
>>>
>>>No I didn't, sir.
>>>
>> Right... you stated an outright distortion of the facts. I never
>> claimed to be the "authority" behind my argument, while you
>> lied and claimed that I have no "right" to quote an "authority"
>> to justify my argument. In other words, you're not interested
>> in the truth... you just believe yourself to be more qualified
>> than the " "Bureau International des Poids et Mesures. The
>> International System of Units - le Système international
>> d'unités." But given that you also claim you are the "authority"
>> behind an Easter Bunny claim that there is "a right to life for
>> all biological life... including cockroaches and other vermin,
>> bacteria and viruses," it's clear just how delusional your
>
>
>"Right"
Use "Correct" if the word "Right" is too complicated for you.
>> belief in your own "authority" actually is.
>>>
>>>>>You have read them all in this small time, sir?
>>>>
>>>> I'm a fast reader.
>>>
>>>You would have to be the fastest reader on the planet, sir.
>>
>> I've had a lot of time.
>
>
>An awful lot of time, sir; no time for work or putting that knowledge in
>those books to use. Do you use it sir? Do you even just regurgitate it sir?
>Or do you just read it and store the knowledge where it can do no good. I
>cannot imagine a more pointless use or I should say 'misuse' of a library.
At least I "remember" what I read. You insist that you do not
"remember" what you learned in school regarding the Holocaust
or ANYTHING.
Your exact words were "I do remember NOTHING." <emphasis mine>
You said "I cannot remember something that was never in my
memory." So apparently everything you claim you "learned" in
school was NEVER "in your memory." What kind of an education
is that? That you go to school knowing that everything will not
"stay in your memory," and it will simply go in one ear and out
the other. I don't believe I've ever encountered someone so quick
to admit that he cannot retain in his "memory," what he learned
in school. But I do believe you were honest in stating that what
you learned in school never stayed "in your memory." I'll give
you partial credit for being honest one time in our dialog.
>>>> Can't do it, can you???
>>>
>>>
>>>Can't do what, sir?
>>>
>>
>> Handle the truth.
>
>I am still looking forward to you telling some truth for a change, sir.
"You're just guessing."
>>
>>>
>>>>Yet I've provided cite after cite showing
>>>> Hz being the recognized standard for "cycles per second."
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>If you had read your books sir, you would see that cs and c/s are also
>>>used.
>>
>> Guess what? -- An assertion lacking a referenced cite is
>> inadmissible
>
>Then you have not read your books, sir. You stack them on your shelves
>preventing anyone else from reading them.
"You're just guessing."
>>
>>>> You're one hard-headed piece of work, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>>
>>>Thank you, sir.
>>
>> You're welcome... always glad to help the retarded deal with their
>> problem.
>
>There is no problem, sir.
The retarded never believe there is a problem. Bless 'em all...
including you, my little retard.
>>>>>>>You haven't answered the problem I gave you, yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nor have you. I could give you a multitude of problems that you
>>>>>> could not even attempt to solve, sport.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> <clipped the young blockhead repeating my words>
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes I have, sir. I am still waiting for your solution if you can offer
>>>>>one.
>>>>
>>>> No, problem.... See -
>>>> http://www.bipm.org/en/si/si_brochure/chapter5/5-2.html
>>>
>>>That does not answer the question, sir. You have avoided it yet again.
>>>
>> Now that you admit you are mistaken about C/S, Cs, or whatever the
>> fuck you want to call it to avoid recognizing it as Hz, I have already
>> answered all your questions in my previous post.
>>>>
>
>"Now that you admit you are mistaken about C/S, Cs,"
>
>To do so would be a lie, sir.
"You're just guessing." However, I have seen absolutely no EVIDENCE
or FACT from you which would substantiate your claim.
>>"or whatever the fuck you want to call"
>
>Your ignorance is noted sir, as is you further attempt in avoiding the
>question.
You're the one avoiding the question. Where's your PROOF about
C/S, or Cs? I haven't seen anything from you but windbag bluster.
>>>> I did find the answer in a very concise reference in my library titled
>>>> the "Standard Handbook for Electrical Engineers." About 2000 pages
>>>> deep, edited by Donald G Fink (look him up), published by McGraw Hill,
>>>> with ISBN 0-07-020973-1.
>>>
>>>" About 2000 pages deep"
>>>
>>>2304 to be exact, sir.
>>
>> You counted THEM??? Mine doesn't have the pages numbered. It
>> just has the sections numbered. You spent all your time COUNTING
>> the pages??? Don't you have anything better to do?
>>
>
>" You counted THEM??? "
>
>No, you silly person. I looked the book up on Amazon.
And yet you are still wallowing in ignorance by ignoring what you
found.
>
>>>>Go to your library and ask them for it.
>>>> Then go to page 1-9... Systems of Measurement. And you will see
>>>> that Frequency is measured in Hz.
>>>
>>>Are those the only pages you looked at in the entire book, sir?
>>
>> It is the page that references the STANDARD System of measurements,
>> Sir shit-for-brains. And nowhere in that book does the term C/S, or
>> Cs appear.
>
>I'll take that as a "yes", sir.
"You're just guessing."
>>
>>>> And yet I can find no reference to "Cs is the standard for cycles per
>>>> second." In fact every reference states that "Hz is the standard
>>>> for cycles per second."
>>>
>>>If that book is any good then it should contain the formulas to answer
>>>those
>>>little problems I gave you. Maybe you should try buying a copy and reading
>>>it, sir.
>>
>> Your problems have already been answered. Now when can I expect you
>> to answer even ONE of the eight new problems I've posed to you???
>
>"Your problems have already been answered."
>
>Not by you, they have not sir.
Wrong, Sir shit-for-brains. You've now seen the answers TWICE.
>"to answer even ONE of the eight new problems I've posed to you???"
>
>
>Eight, sir? Then I shall pose eight for you in turn, sir.
And I'll answer one at a time, right after you answer one of my eight
questions to you. That's a piece of cake for me. Like the question
you asked me about a "resonant circuit" giving me the value of RL
and asking me what is the value of RC?? I almost fell off my chair
laughing at that one. You made my day! If that's all you've got
going for you, you really know nothing about electronic circuits.
>>Now when can I expect you
>> to answer even ONE of the eight new problems I've posed to you???
>>
>
>I'm still waiting for you to answer that first question I posed for you,
>sir.
Actually they've all been answered. One of the answers was 10
degrees, with a dB loss of zero. The other was RC = RL. The
other was also answered. The last one is answered below. Now
we wait for YOUR answers to even one of my eight questions.
And we wait... and we wait... and we wait....
>> You don't have any "colleagues," Sir shit-for-brains. What you have
>> are a few fellow dweebs who all collectively sit around with your
>> fingers up your ass.
>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> R = 3.183 x 10^4 Ohms = 31.83 K Ohms
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> c = 10^-9 Farads
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> f = 500 Hz
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thus -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Xc = 1/(2 x [pi] x f x c) = 1/(2 x 2.14 x 500 x 10^-9 Ohms)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Xc=1/w(omega)c sir but it equates to the same thing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thus reducing --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Xc= 3.183 x 10^5 ohms = 318.3 K Ohms
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>318.310K to be more accurate, sir but you are doing very well
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heh... you idiot. That is only LESS accurate. Your original data
>>>>>> gave R = 3.183... you cannot invent that 318310, as presumable
>>>>>> "more accurate" than your original number. Your entire problem
>>>>>> is limited to 3.183, which is four significant digits. Offering
>>>>>> a claim that "318.31..." is "more accurate" is a crock of shit,
>>>>>> since it implies five digits of accuracy.
>>>>>
>>>>>Temper, temper. If you cannot handle the problem you should ask for
>>>>>help.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not the type who finds humor in your ignorance.
>>>
>>>You're the one whom failed the problem sir.
>>
>> Already answered... Sir shit-for-brains.
>
>Your answer was incorrect, sir.
"You're just guessing." My answer was right on the money. And you
know it.
>>>>
>>>>> PI has more than 5 digits of accuracy, sir.
>>>>
>>>> When I state 3.14159...
>>>
>>>You have over snipped, sir. You appear to be as ignorant on snipping, as
>>>you are everything else.
>>
>> I used six digits of accuracy, Sir shit-for-brains. Can't you count?
>
>Yes, sir and I can tell the difference between two and three, sir; unlike
>you apparently.
Yet you don't know the difference between 5 and 6. Did I mention...
pot... kettle... black? While my mistake was a true typo, and your
mistake was a failure to properly count the significant digits. Mine
was a mistake in physical coordination (after all... I am 78)! Yours
was a mistake in calculation.... or numeracy... if you prefer.
>>>> Pi, my young student, is no more a constant than a man is a cockroach.
>>>> pi is only as accurate as your calculator, thus it is not incorrect to
>>>> show pi as an approximation because that's what it is, no matter how
>>>> long one writes integers. Nor can one write pi as a quotient of two
>>>> integers, in exact terms. While your use of 318.310 implies a
>>>> constant "more accurate" than your original constant, Sir
>>>> shit-for-brains.
>>>>
>>>
>>>"Pi, my young student, is no more a constant than a man is a cockroach.
>>>> pi is only as accurate as your calculator"
>>>
>>>Nonsense, sir. Pi goes on for as long as there can be new digits
>>>calculated.
>>>and alot of people do not need a calculator to calculate it as you would.
>>>They spend a finate amount of time on it.
>>
>> Pi is NOT a constant in any sense of having an absolute value. When
>> will you ever recognize the difference between rational and irrational
>> numbers? Pi is only as accurate as the number of digits used, and
>> it tells you nothing of what the next digit will be.
>
>"Pi is NOT a constant in any sense of having an absolute value"
>
>Wrong, sir; PI is calculated and when a new digit is found it becomes
>constant.
I repeat... Pi does not have an absolute value in the natural numbers.
Constants do not change when a new digit is found, because there
are no new digits to find. 3 is 3.0000 to infinity with those
insignificant zeros. Pi changes with ever new digit to infinity.
Pi is proven to be an infinite decimal. Unlike numbers such as 3,
which have finitely many nonzero numbers to the right of the decimal
place, pi has infinitely many numbers to the right of the decimal
point.
>>>"I can't believe you don't know the difference between a rational
>>> and an irrational number."
>>>
>>>You are guessing again, sir.
>>
>> And yet you continue to show that you don't know the difference.
>
>I show no such thing, sir.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>
>>>>>> And you claim an ability to compute numbers, yet screw up
>>>>>> the most basic of all mathematical principles... that values
>>>>>> cannot be obtained having greater significance than the
>>>>>> significant digits within the mathematical computation.
>>>>>> Whenever you make a measurement, that measurement
>>>>>> is only as precise as the original significant digits being
>>>>>> computed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>" And you claim an ability to compute numbers"
>>>>>
>>>>>I made no such claim, sir.
>>>>
>>>> That's sad... you now admit you have no ability to compute numbers.
>>>> Glad we agree with that.
>>>
>>>I made no such claim, sir. Lack of a positive does not assert a negative,
>>>sir.
>>
>> You admitted elsewhere that you were not "illiterate" (although you
>> are), but that you suffer from "innumeracy."
>
>"although you
>> are"
>
>I see you do not know the meaning of, "illiterate" either, sir.
I know it when I see it... and it's obvious that it's something you
suffer from.
>"but that you suffer from "innumeracy.""
>
>No, sir
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>>>>> Chee... that's stuff you learn in the 7th grade, or earlier.
>>>>>
>>>>>Is that the last time you had any education, sir?
>>>>
>>>> We've already been through this, Sir shit-for-brains... See --
>>>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Maryland.jpg
>>>> http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/pv/Boston.jpg
>>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/Transcript.jpg
>>>>
>>>
>>>A lot has changed in 22 years, sir. Of course, it is very easy to fake such
>>>documents and you appear to have no qualifications relating to electrical
>>>engineering, sir.
>>>
>> And yet I've solved all the problems you presented to me...
>
>No you haven't, sir.
Yes, I have, Sir shit-for-brains.
>
>including
>> the laughable one where you stated the circuit was resonant, and gave
>> me XL, and asked me to compute XC, as if there is anything to even
>> compute given that at resonance XL = XC.
>
>Yes, sir; you solved the easiest one; sir, and I bet you want a cookie for
>it. Such a law is printed in most relevant texts. It is a pity that you do
>not know what it actually means, sir.
It's a pity that you are so ignorant that you didn't even realize you
had provided the answer within the very question you asked.
>>
>>>> See why I accuse you of slander and lies???
>>>
>>>You accuse me of a lot of things, sir without knowing anything about me or
>>>being able to back up your accusations. Of course, I find the irony as
>>>funnier as that I find that you confuse slander with libel, sir.
>>
>> Hey... good for you, it seems you looked up the definition. I
>> always get those two mixed up... especially when someone like
>> you appear on paper to be screaming out his lies and hate.
>>
>
>"good for you, it seems you looked up the definition"
>
>Yes, sir; It's good practice. Maybe you should try it, sir.
>
"You're just guessing."
>>>For an "educated" man sir, you truly are stupid.
>>
>> And yet... there are those eight problems that you have not dared
>> to even touch.
>>
>
>
>
>They are waiting in the queue right behind the ones I've posed for you, sir.
>You have two correct so far.
And you have none.
>>>> Now where are your educational credentials?
>>>
>>>In the bottom draw of the desk in my workshop, sir, where they shall stay.
>>>I am under no obligation to show them to you, sir.
>>>
>>
>> TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
>> I wasn't what he found me to be so I could show he is not correct,
>> but the bastard hit the nail right on the head."
Stop forging my words to make it appear that I've written something
I have not written, you despicable fraud. It's proof positive that
you are accustomed to lying, cheating, and deception bordering on
the criminal. Do whatever you want in the way of response but do
not play the role of a cheap racketeer, who would sell his mother,
if he believed it could make him look good.
>>>>>>>> and --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cutoff frequency = 1/(2 x [pi] x R x c) = 1/(2 x 2.14 x 3.183 x
>>>>>>>> 10^4
>>>>>>>> x 10^-9) Hz
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thus reducing --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cutoff frequency = 5 x 10^3 Hz = 5 KHz
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> at cutoff frequency Xc = R = 3.183 x10^4 ohms = 31.83 K Ohms
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cutoff frequency = -3 db
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The question did not ask for the cutoff frequency or the db loss at
>>>>>>>cut
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>frequency. it Asked for the db loss and phase angled at 500 Cs, sir.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, gee... I must have not RTFQ. I like to solve practical
>>>>>> problems, and knowing the cutoff frequency is more important
>>>>>> than the parameters you asked about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"I must have not RTFQ"
>>>>>
>>>>>Indeed, sir.
>>>>
>>>> TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
>>>> I wasn't what he found me to be so I could show he is not correct,
>>>> but the bastard hit the nail right on the head."
Stop forging my words to make it appear that I've written something
I have not written, you despicable fraud. It's proof positive that
you are accustomed to lying, cheating, and deception bordering on
the criminal. Do whatever you want in the way of response but do
not play the role of a cheap racketeer, who would sell his mother,
if he believed it could make him look good. It is one of the most
disgusting patterns of behavior possible in Usenet, and only shows
how desperate you are, how little morals you have, how little you
are as a person, and proves that you have no problem with lying.
>>>> I haven't seen you take a stab at any of my questions 2 or 3, Sir
>>>> shit-for-brains.
>>>
>>>That's right sir and there are still three questions you have not
>>>answered.
>>
>> All answered... Sir shit-for-brains. Your turn now.
>
>No they are not, sir.
"You're just guessing." And in fact, you're lying. All to avoid
admitting that you have no idea how to solve even one of the
questions presented to you. NOT EVEN ONE!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>You still have not answered your problem, sir.
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>>
>>>Because you can't, sir.
>>
>> Wrong... all answered, Sir shit-for-brains. Your turn now.
>
>No you did not, sir.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Not only can you not solve it"
>>>>>
>>>>>A guess, sir.
>>>>
>>>> That's something you haven't even tried in respect to my problems
>>>> I asked you to solve. While you can't even formulate your problems
>>>> understandably.
>>>>
>>>
>>>"That's something you haven't even tried in respect to my problems"
>>>
>>>That is true, sir. But your problems go deeper that a few numbers, sir.
>>
>> Not at all... they all have an answer in numbers. But you have to
>> know how to arrive at those numbers. And that is what is beyond
>> your meager knowledge of electronics or the mathematics that
>> is necessary to arrive at answers in electronics circuits. Even the
>> most basic of data in respect to electronics is based upon
>> mathematics. Such as I = V/R.
>>
>
>"Not at all"
>
>Very much so, sir.
"You're just guessing."
>
>>>>>>>Nonsense, sir. Ohms law applies electricity, whether it is DC or AC is
>>>>>>>irrelevent. As AC is contantly in flux then that has to be taken into
>>>>>>>account so impedence and phase angle are calculated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>>>>
>>>>>There was no denial sir. There was only your apology of a response.
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't make the denier suddenly speak the truth when it is
>>>> obvious that he speaks a lie.
>>>>
>>>> So your apology is accepted.
>>>
>>>No apology was offered, sir.
>>
>> Sure there was. You're trying to make excuses for your lies. And
>> in doing so admit you've lied... and thus apologize for having lied.
>>
>
>"Sure there was"
>
>Sure there was not, sir.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>> You're comments in respect to AC and ohms law
>>>were wrong but you don't have the backbone to admit it, sir.
Heh... that's "your," not "you're," you mindless moron.
>> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>
>An unreferenced cite is inadmissible
No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>>>>
>>>>Look at all the new words in English you can look up.
>>>
>>>No you haven't, sir.
>>
>> No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>
>An unreferenced cite is inadmissible
No proof offered. Your claim fails.
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>You are an idiot, sir. What do you suppose you use to calculate the
>>>>>current
>>>>>through an ac circuit of the voltage across its capacitors or inductors?
>>>>
>>>> Kirchoff's law. Not Ohm's law.
>>>
>>>Ohm's Law, you imbecile: E=I/Z is Ohm's law, not Kirchoff's! Do your
>>>research, sir.
>>
>> E=I/R is Ohm's law, Sir shit-for-brains. See --
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohm's_law
>> Rather there in bold letters -- I = V/R. But now I've got you using
>> "E."
>>
>
>
>Z is impedance, you imbecile. It is measured in ohms and follows ohms law in
>relation to resistance, sir. Do your research, sir.
Why did you use "E"?
>>But now I've got you using
>> "E."
>
>No, you have not, sir. E stands for EMF and I was using it when you were
>still forging your computing degree papers, sir.
An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible. You'll have
to open your desk drawer if you expect to prove your claim, Sir
shit-for-brains. And we both know that there is nothing but
cobwebs and the nest where you keep your "poor innocent" cockroaches,
in that desk drawer of yours.
>>>>
>>>>>The Black arts? To calculate current, The formula is I=E/Z and to
>>>>>calculate
>>>>>the voltage across an inductor or capacitor the formula is Vl=I*XL and
>>>>>Vc
>>>>>=
>>>>>I*XC respectively.
>>>>
>>>> I = E/R is Ohm's law.
>>>
>>>At last, the penny drops, sir.
>>
>> Since R is not V except in a DC circuit, Ohm's law applies to DC
>> circuits and not to resistances that are Z which is impedance,
>> and appears only in AC circuits.
>
>Z is impedance sir and follows ohms law. Of course, you have to factor in
>phases differences and periodic time but ohms law still applies, sir.
>
"You're just guessing."
>>
>>>> Despite your ignorance of basic electronics, R
>>>> is not = Z, or = C, or = L. All of which change instantaneously in an
>>>> AC circuit, while R is a constant, and I and E can be computed using
>>>> simple arithmetic, and instantaneous AC cannot be computed using
>>>> simple arithmetic.
>>>>
>>>
>>>You moron, sir. Z=impedence,
>>
>> Correct... Z is not = R.
>
Finally, the penny drops.
>
>Both are measured in OHMS, sir. Both follow ohms law, sir.
>
"You're just guessing."
>
>>
>>> E IS EMF and I is current. Get an education, sir.
>>
>> I'm still old school, and we always referred to voltage as E.
>
>E is still the symbol for EMF, sir but the units themselves are measured in
>Volts, sir.
"You're just guessing." See --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volt
Quote -- "The volt (symbol: V) is the SI derived unit of electromotive
force, commonly called "voltage""
>>I admit
>> that is a mistake. It results from an old four word rhyme to
>> remember how inductive and capacitive impedance work. The
>> rhyme was ELI THE ICE MAN. And in that rhyme one can then
>> devise that "voltage (E) leads current (I) (ELI) in inductive
>> impedance, while current (I) leads voltage (E) (ICE) in capacitive
>> impedance."
>>
>> Of course Voltage now has the standard of V as its representation,
>> just as "cycles per second" has the standard of Hz as its
>> representation. But there is still evidence of E being used
>> to represent Voltage. On circuit schematics, E is shown as the
>> voltage across batteries, or generators, (the voltage out of those
>> devices), while V is shown across all other devices such as resistors,
>> etc.
>>
>
>"Voltage now has the standard of V"
>
>
>No sir; Voltage is still represented by E at source and V where measuring
>potential rather than source, sir.
Wrong. See --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volt
Quote -- "The volt (symbol: V) is the SI derived unit of electromotive
force, commonly called "voltage""
>
>> You see how easy it is to admit mistakes? Now if we could only
>> get you to recognize even 1 out of every 100 mistakes you make.
>> But then you wouldn't be "hard-headed," would you???
>>
>
>"You see how easy it is to admit mistakes? "
>
>It's good to see you admitting one for a change even though that was one
>time where you did not make a mistake. I love the irony, sir. You admit to a
>mistake you did not make yet fail to admit to countless one you did make.
"You're just guessing."
>>>>>"AC circuits are much more complicated than DC circuits"
>>>>>
>>>>>That is something else, we agree on, sir.
>>>>>
>>>>>"You couldn't solve even the easiest of differential equations."
>>>>>
>>>>>You are guessing, sir.
>>>>
>>>> I've already given you the easiest of differential equations.
>>>
>>>No, sir. The easiest of differential equations include Y=X, Y=1 or Y=X^2
>>>sir.
>>>They are examples of the "easiest", sir.
>>
>> Rubbish. Now of those presumed identities are part of any
>> differential equation.
>
>They are all differential equations sir. in the first one, dy/dx=1, in the
>second, dy/dx=0 in the final one, dy/dx=2X, sir. They are examples of the
>simplest differential equations. Anyone who has ever studied differential
>calculus would have recognised those, sir. It is curious that you did not,
>sir.
That isn't what you wrote, you idiot. You've worked the
cart before the horse, and offered a SOLUTION (as mundane
and trivial as those pseudo-solutions are) to differential
equations, rather than offered and THEN solved a "differential
equation." You've worked it ass backward. Keep in mind
that before your latest words your argument has been that
"Y=X, Y=1, or Y=X^2" ARE "differential equations." Nothing
could be further from the truth given that mathematics
requires one must be VERY precise in PROVING arguments.
Instead, you are 180 degrees out of phase. It is absolutely
necessary that a "differential equation" contains a derivative,
rather than a fuction or an identity.
The definition of a differential equation is -- "A differential
equation is a relation between a collection of functions and their
derivatives." Your "Y=X, Y=1, or Y=X^2" do not CONTAIN
derivatives. Not one of them... not one single derivative.
In fact, your "Y=1" is not even a function or differentiable,
thus a derivative cannot possibly be obtained to use as a
"differential equation," working ass backwards as you've
tried. There is no possibility of obtaining "the derivative
of y with respect to another variable." Because there is
NO variable in your Y=1 identity.
Now you've offered differential equations (as mundane
and juvenile as those pseudo-differential equations are),
but what you first offered you now state "are all differential
equations," and that's clear bullshit, because what you FIRST
offered were IDENTITIES, and FUNCTIONS without
derivatives. Now you have accomplished obtaining the
DERIVATIVE of SOME of the functions you originally offered
as "differential equations," by using DIFFERENTIATION...
which is not SOLVING a "differential equation." Any function
which is FREE of derivatives, and which satisfies identically a
differential equation, is said to be a SOLUTION of the differential
equation... NOT the differential equation itself.
There is now ample evidence that you have simply tried to take a
crash course in the "differential calculus," and are now horribly
confused. In addition to the fact that functions must be
differentiable. And Y=1 is not differentiable because it has
no dependent variable, no independent variable, and no
variable at all.
Furthermore, your Y=1, has no variable, and thus CANNOT be
a function since X is not defined in your Y=1. Y = 1 is no
different than stating 1 = 1, and that is hardly differentiable
or can be the solution to a differential equation. dy/dx is
DEFINED as "the derivative of y with respect to x." But there
IS NO "x" in your Y=1. Thus you cannot invent one, or obtain a
derivative of the term Y=1. You first need a function in the
form similar to f(x) = y, at the very least. But there is no "x" in
Y=1. Differential equations require BOTH an independent and
a dependent variable. Your Y=1 has neither.
Obviously a differential equation is one which contains the derivative
of the function being sought. But there is NO derivative of Y=1,
because there is no independent or dependent VARIABLE. There is only
a constant, which is not differentiable given the definition of what a
differential is. Now you claim that the differential equation of the
"solution" Y=1, is dy/dx = 0. Did you just imagine that there is that
variable "x" that appeared magically when you solved the supposed
differential equation? How exactly does Y vary with respect to
X? How exactly does Y even vary? How exactly did "x" magically
appear in your "solution"? Where did "x" GO from being in what
you insist was a "differential equation" of dy/dx = 0. Did it
suddenly vanish? How can you plot Y=1 on the Cartesian
coordinate system, if trying to obtain a visualization of the slope
if you cannot even place it on that coordinate system without a
value for "x." You do not even HAVE an "x" to use, so you cannot
place that identity ANYWHERE. It is neither a point nor a line.
There is not even an "x" equal zero to attempt to place it as a point
in that system. It is NOTHING!!! As far as "differential equations"
go.
You have not provided a "collection of functions and their
derivatives." There are no independent variables in an identity. It's
astonishing just how little you know of the calculus and differential
equations. It's like you picked up a book called "Beginner's
Calculus," and read the first page and then invented what you presumed
to be a "differential equation." It's as if you are totally ignorant
of the calculus. It's time for a quick education, while I have little
time to deal with morons like you.
Ignoring the fact that Y=1 is nothing that can be differentiated,
and thus cannot be turned magically into a differential equation,
by creating an imaginary variable called x, to create a
differential equation of dy/dx= 0, let us turn to your claim
that Y=X is a "differential equation."
We now know that this is wrong simply by the DEFINITION of a
"differential equation," which must at least contain a derivative of a
function. Instead it is just an IDENTITY, in which there is
no independent variable or dependent variable, other than how
one states the function itself! So stated as a function f(x) = y,
we simply make the choice that y is the dependent variable...
which is rather nonsensical given the function can also be stated
as f(y) = x. And from that what you've now tried to do is create a
"differential equation" But you have only accomplished taking the
DERIVATIVE of y (or of x if you change the function to read
f(y) = x). The DERIVATIVE is the slope of the tangent line of the
function which is a straight line, in which X equals Y. A line that
runs at 45 degrees in the first quadrant when positive, and at 225
degrees in the third quadrant when negative on a Cartesian coordinate
graphing. The slope of the tangent line is easily determined by
geometry... with m = (y1 - y2)/(x1 - x2), and since x = y at all
values, by substitution we have m = (y1 - y2)/(y1 - y2) = 1.
That alone tells you that dy/dx or dx/dy will equal 1. Hardly
reasonable to consider that trivial answer as a "differential
equation."
But going forward and taking the DERIVITIVE, in short, means taking
the power of the dependent variable and placing that power in front of
the dependent variable while lowering the power of that variable by
one (of course this is a very simplified explanation since there are
limits that must be taken when we hope to PROVE that this method will
provide the DERIVITIVE. While that proof is not at all difficult it
is irrelevant to the question here). This process is called
"DIFFERENTIATION," and is NOT a "differential equation." Keep in mind
that "derivative" "differentiation," and "differential" are not the
same thing. In one we take a function and FIND the derivative, if one
exists, this is called differentiation; in the other we take a
derivative and find the function, if one exists. You have done that
ass backwards.
Anyway... carrying on... we have f'(x) = 1, and thus dx/dy (in another
form of notation) = 1. Or dy/dx = 1, if we change the dependent
and independent variables which is permitted since they are
equalities.
You have neither created nor solved a "differential equation."
You have noted the most simple DIFFERENTIATION... That of
an identity... but that is not solving a "differential equation." No
wonder you are confused about the simple "differential equation" I
gave you.
The same applies to all your other rubbish. You STATED that
"The easiest of differential equations include Y=X, Y=1 or Y=X^2"
Not a single one of those are "differential equations." At most
one of them is a SOLUTION to a differential equation, the other
is questionable as to the reasoning behind bothering with a
"differential equation," and the third is NONSENSE!!! The
definition of a "differential equation" demands that the
differential equation contain a derivative. "Y=X, Y=1, or
Y=X^2" do not CONTAIN derivatives. They are identities
or functions (if you will in 2 of the 3 examples). While Y-X isn't
much of anything because there is no way of identifying which
is the dependent and which is the independent variable, and
Y =1 isn't ANYTHING other than saying the same thing as
1 = 1. You can do NOTHING with it, without further definitions, and
constraints, because all that you've done is define a CONSTANT.
To claim that a "differential equation" only requires one to
take the power of the dependent variable, place it in front of
the variable, lower the power of the variable by one, and voila
you have solved a "differential equation" is the height of ignorance.
Now solve the damn questions I gave you, or admit you cannot
do it.
See --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_calculus
"Differential calculus" is a subfield of calculus concerned with the
study of how functions change when their input changes. The
primary object of study in differential calculus is the DERIVATIVE.
A closely related notion is the DIFFERENTIAL. The process of
finding a DERIVATIVE is called DIFFERENTIATION. This is what
you have shown in the most simplistic use of an identity of two
variables which equate to exactly the same value at all points
on the line. Plus your absurd offering of a constant claiming
a constant can be differentiated.
Of course your argument is simply a smoke screen to avoid admitting
that you haven't a clue how to approach the simple differential
equation I asked you to solve.
You're a fraud, and a phony, Sir shit-for-brains. You have
48 hours to solve that differential equation I gave you or everyone
who reads this thread will KNOW that you're a fraud, and a
phony.
>>>
>>>"You have no idea how to even approach a solution. "
>>>
>>>You are guessing again, sir.
>>
>> And yet I've already given you the easiest of differential equations.
>
>
>
>No, sir; I have given you the easiest, and you failed to recognise them. I
>wonder if you'd have the same problem with integration, sir.
So you intend to avoid solving any problem I've given you. Using
again your sly, greasy, craven, cunning as a viper, contemptible,
fallacious, vacuous swindles. How I've grown to KNOW you, and
your sick in the mind methods. Little wonder that I find you
incredibly dense, unimaginably offensive, dealing in nothing but
devious lies, and mindless drivel.
>>>>>> Kirchoff's law examines "nodes." Because the sum of the current
>>>>>> flowing into any node must equal the sum of the current flowing out of
>>>>>> any node. Both in steady DC and in instantaneous AC current, which
>>>>>> changes depending upon the frequency and other factors, but always
>>>>>> remains instantaneously the sum of the current flowing into that node
>>>>>> equaling the sum of the current flowing out of that node.
>>>>>
>>>>>You should reference a text you copy information from or it's
>>>>>plagiarism,
>>>>>sir.
>>>>
>>>> ROTFLMAO. This is common knowledge within all textbooks that
>>>> examine Kirchoff's law.
>>>
>>>There's more to it than that, sir. of course, your feeble attempt at
>>>mockery
>>>does not diprove you copied that cite without referencing, sir.
>>>
>>>
>>>"> It is not plagiarism to relate a scientific fact."
>>>
>>>It is if you cite one without refrencing it, sir.
>>
>> Wrong!!! I can't even begin to relate how many scientific papers
>> are written using Newton's laws without the mention of Newton!
>>
>
>Not word for word, sir and none of those paper's authors claim the work was
>entirely theirs.
"You're just guessing."
See --
http://www.integral-table.com/
Try to find a mention of Isaac Newton in that site which offers the
solution to various problems in integration. With all the assets
available for you on the Internet that problem in "differential
equations" I gave you should be a piece of cake for a smart-ass
like you claim to be.
>>>> The only thing you can argue are that my FACTS are wrong... and you
>>>> know you can't do that.
>>>
>>>They aren't your facts, sir.
>>
>> When I show them to you as proof of my arguments they represent
>> my facts proving my arguments. While all I have from you is
>> mumbles, whining, sobbing hysterically while curled up in the
>> fetal position, lies, hate, ignorance and mindless drivel.
>>>
>
>You do not show proof, sir.
>
"You're just guessing"
Damn... I'm so happy that John Rennie mentioned that the way to win
was to just repeat the words "You're just guessing," and nothing more
as you do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Very longwinded, sir. The correct formula is radians = degrees*pi/180
>>>>>>>Of course you would have spotted that a complete circle is 2pi.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's exactly what I wrote, shit-for-brains. Other than I use
>>>>>> 2.14159... an approximation for pi. Here it is again --
>>>>>
>>>>>No, sir you wrote.
>>>>
>>>> And what I wrote was as accurate as yours since pi is an irrational
>>>> number, and cannot be expressed as a constant.. obviously. While
>>>> we don't concern ourselves with degrees that have more than 6
>>>> digits of accuracy. In fact, degrees in general only have at most
>>>> three digits of accuracy, at which point further accuracy is usually
>>>> stated in minutes, and seconds. Each degree being split up into 60
>>>> minutes, and each minute being split up into 60 seconds.
>>>
>>>"And what I wrote was as accurate as yours since pi is an irrational
>>>> number"
>>>
>>>You cannot state that Pi suddently starts with 2 any more than you can
>>>declare the last three digits, sir.
>>
>> Aw... Death Disco caught me in a typo... Good grief... if I had a
>> nickel for every typo from him it would be like winning the
>> lottery.
>
>You admit that you performed a typo, sir. I find that immeasurably more
>impressive than your bluster, sir
>
I'm always willing to accept my mistakes... too bad that present
company doesn't include you accepting your mistakes, such as you
claiming that "Killing carries a custodial sentence, even if it is in
self-defence. That is British law, of course." When British law
is quite clear that killing in self-defense is not a crime. Even when
a substantial amount of evidence is shown to you, you are
confused, and your continued denial shows you want to lie rather
than admit your mistake.
>>>>>> rad = degrees x (2.14159... /180)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See it right above the list of various radians at degrees?
>>>>>
>>>>>the formula for converting degrees to radians is Radians=degrees*pi/180,
>>>>>sir. That is not what you wrote.
>>>>
>>>> See the three dots following 2.14159...? That means in standard
>>>> mathematics that this is an approximation. And it is a completely
>>>> accurate approximation. We're not sending a rocket to Mars, Sir
>>>> shit-for-brains. And you cannot possibly argue that pi is a
>>>> constant. While I clearly showed the various important degrees
>>>> in pi.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Pi starts with a 3, sir.
>>
>> Awww.... death disco caught me in a typo.
>
>More than one, sir but you admitted to it, sir. For you that is personal
>growth. Keep it up, sir.
Aww... two typos, of the same kind, hitting a 2 instead of a 3. Bring
out the rack, the thumb screws, and the iron maiden, boys... I'm ready
to take my punishment. Now if we could only get dipshit death disco
to admit to his hundreds upon hundreds of typos, and grammatical
mistakes. After all... given I've admitted to those two typos...
pot... kettle... black...
>>>>>"I've been retired longer than you've been living."
>>>>>
>>>>>You're guessing, sir.
>>>>
>>>> And yet you've offered nothing that would refute my guess.
>>>
>>>You've offered nothing to back your guess up, sir.
>>>
>>
>> Well, I retired on 23 April 1993. I doubt seriously you are over
>> the age of 17. But I'm sure that you'll put on your fascist
>> uniform and insist I am not _allowed to think_, Herr
>> Sturmbannführer Disco.
>>
>
>"Well, I retired on 23 April 1993"
>
>
>Do you see how easy it is to extract personal information from you, sir?
So what? Do you plan on using it to harm me or my family?
Is this another of your implied threats against me? Like your
threat of "I warned you."
>"I doubt seriously you are over> the age of 17"
>
>You are guessing, sir; although the number 17 has significance, sir.
Of course it does... since even if it is not your chronological age it
is certainly your mental age at MOST.
>>>> But
>>>> even the thought that you are older than me, and have yet learned
>>>> so little of life, sends shivers up my spine.
>>>
>>>I have already stated that I am younger than you, sir.
>>>Your words were: "I've been retired longer than you've been living."
>>>How old were you when you retired sir?
>>>
>> How old are you??? Since you never answer my questions,
>> why do you think I should answer yours until you answer even
>> one of mine?
>>
>
>Because you respond with that silly plagiarised cite of yours, sir.
An assertion lacking a referenced cite is inadmissible.
>>>>
>>>>>> [1] see bottom of post.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It was feeble sir. You got as far as working out the capacitive
>>>>>>>reactance.
>>>>>>>then you went off at a tangent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
>>>>>
>>>>>There was no denial, sir. You mucked it up.
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't make the denier suddenly speak the truth when it is
>>>> obvious that he speaks a lie. That seems to be your implication.
>>>>
>>>
>>>You mucked it up, sir.
>>
>>TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
>> I wasn't what he found me to be so I could show he is not correct,
>> but the bastard hit the nail right on the head."
Stop changing my words, you sicko. It only proves you have
something to hide, and intend to continue using sly, greasy, craven,
cunning as a viper, contemptible, fallacious, vacuous dishonesty
and deceit. How I've grown to KNOW you, and your sick in the mind
methods. You're despicable.
>>>>>
>>>>>" knowledgeable when you're not"
>>>>>
>>>>>You're guessing, sir.
>>>>
>>>> And yet you've offered nothing that would disprove my comment.
>>>
>>>You've offered nothing to back your guess up, sir.
>>
>> Heh... Am I supposed to give you a fascist salute in responding to
>> your "order" that I am not _allowed to think_, Herr Sturmbannführer
>> Disco? You fit perfectly in that fascist outfit.
>>
>
>"Heh"
>
>I need say no more.
Ah... but you will. Heh heh heh... and most of what you say will
be lies, hate for the Jews, or more mindless drivel like your
incredibly ignorant claim that "Y=1" is a "differential equation."
When you don't know what you're talking about... it's best not
to say anything, Sir shit-for-brains.
>>>>>" All in all you screwed it up pretty badly. "
>>>>>
>>>>>It that is what you call screwing up pretty badly then you need a life
>>>>>sir.
>>>>>Typographical errors are only a bad screwing when you are writing a
>>>>>paper
>>>>>on English language sir.
>>>>
>>>> "Education is the best provision for the journey to old age." --
>>>> Aristotle.
>>>
>>>Who mentioned education, sir? We were talking of typographical errors,
>>>sir.
>>>
>> A "typo" is the exchange on ONE LETTER of the alphabet for ANOTHER
>> when typing. Changing words, or changing meaning, or grammatical
>> mistakes, are NOT considered typos, Sir shit-for-brains.
>
>
>No, sir;
Yes, Sir shit-for-brains. See --
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=typo
TYPO -- " a misspelling of a word when typing or texting."
>A typo is a printing or typesetting error caused by "mechanical
>fault". The expression is often used incorrectly in place of a Freudian slip
>for example.
Too bad that nobody pays attention when you decide that "if i do not
approve of a definition I simply choose not to use it." Despite your
psychotic belief that you are God, you do not get to choose what
definitions I use when I type a word that is defined in more than YOUR
way. That's the beauty of English... it is a living language which
adds new meanings to words and new words every day. But why try
to explain it to you? Given you insist that you "remember nothing."
Also see --
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/typo
TYPO -- "an error (as of spelling) in typed or typeset material.
Needless to say... I'm typing my words. They then become
"typed."
>>>>>On newsgroups it's minor at worst and only used as
>>>>>ammunition for imbeciles like you whom can't win their arguments any
>>>>>other
>>>>>way. I am still waiting for your answer to the very SIMPLE problem I
>>>>>gave
>>>>>you.
>>>>
>>>> Heh... More ad hominem to cover up your lack of a proper
>>>> education. See --
>>>> http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/logic.html#hominem
>>>
>>>Your avoidence of the problem is noted, sir. You are too great a coward to
>>>admit that you cannot do it, sir.
>>>
>> And yet you have the answers to your simplistic and ill-conceived and
>> badly distorted questions, while I still wait for even one answer from
>> you.
>
>The questions are perfectly clear, sir.
>
Of course my questions are perfectly clear. So when can I expect you
to solve even one of them, rather than the rubbish you use to avoid
the questions?
As to your questions, they have all been answered, with the exception
of one which requires a circuit schematic, or at least a description
of how the three phases are wired, and where the source is in relation
to the wiring of the three phases.
Your question of "Given a three phase unbalanced supply, VL=400V,
Z1=30,Z2=50 and Z3=40 ohm, calculate phase voltage, Each line current
and the power dissapated (sic) across each line, sir," in it's present
form is virtually nonsense. Who in the world knows what goes where??
However, let's take a stab at it even given the paltry and
insufficient information provided --
Z1 line current = 13.3 I -- P of Z1 = 5.3 KWatts.
Z2 line current = 8 I -- P of Z2 = 3.2 KWatts.
Z3 line current = 10 I --P of Z3 = 4.0 KWatts.
Since Power P = IV... V = P/I.
Thus --
Voltage across Z1 is 5300/13.3 = 398.5 V
Voltage across Z2 is 3200/8 = 400 V
Voltage across Z3 is 4000/10 = 400 V
When can we expect you to take a stab at any of my questions? Rather
than dribble from the side of your mouth with your tongue hanging
down to your chin, as you offer the incredibly stupid claim that Y=1
is a differential equation, and then change your claim and state that
dy/dx = 0 is the differential equation having a solution of Y =1..
Having tried to create an imaginary "x" upon which to form the
definition of dy/dx, insisting that this imaginary "x" exists upon
which one can derive "the derivative of y with respect to x," when
there is no "x," nor does "y" have a derivative.
You're just guessing. I offer proof.
Too bad that nobody pays attention when you decide that "if i do not
approve of a definition I simply choose not to use it." Despite your
psychotic belief that you are God, you do not get to choose what
definitions I use when I type a word that is defined in more than YOUR
way. That's the beauty of English... it is a living language which
adds new meanings to words and new words every day. But why
try to explain it to you? Given you insist that you "remember
nothing."
Also see --
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/typo
TYPO -- "an error (as of spelling) in typed or typeset material.
Needless to say... I'm typing my words. They then become
"typed."
>
>>>>>Perhaps you should invest in a Thesaurus, sir.
>>>>
>>>
>>>" I already have more of them then I need "
>>>
>>>Well try using them from time to time, sir.
>>>
>>
>> Generally I don't need one, since I know quite a few different words
>> that mean about the same thing, but have a slightly different shading.
>>
>
>"Generally I don't need one,"
>
>An expression of the arrogant imbecile, sir. There is never any harm in
>checking your facts.
"You're just guessing" Sir shit-for-brains. Did you ever think about
checking YOUR facts, when you babble incoherently that ""Killing in
self defense is manslaughter and is punishable by imprisonment, sir"?
Of course not... you believe you are God, and don't need to check
facts... since all it takes is a wave of your magic wand to create
facts.
>> But it is enough to mention that you have offered Holocaust
>> denial to put you in your place.
>>
>
>
>No, sir; I never denied the holocaust occurred.
>
Of course you have... you insist you have "no memory" of it... and
you "remember nothing."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heh... the penny drops... And Death Disco is speechless.
>>>>>
>>>>>Wishful thinking on your part, sir.
>>>>
>>>> And yet that's all you have to say.
>>>.
>>>Which is not "speechless", sir. You screwed it up again, sir.
>>
>> "Mindless drivel" is nothing but demonstrating you are "speechless."
>
>"Mindless drivel"
>
>Is not speechless, sir.
>
"You're just guessing," Sir shit-for-brains.
>
>You failed to understand it, sir. Ergo you were rendered speechless , sir
"You're just guessing," Sir shit-for-brains.
>>>>>> No you didn't.
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes I did, sir.
>>>>
>>>> No you didn't, Sir shit-a-lot.
>>>
>>>Yes I did, sir.
>>
>> NO you didn't, Sir shit-for-brains.
>
>Yes I did, sir.
"You're just guessing," Sir shit-for-brains.
>>>>
>>>> Heh heh... and yet not even an attempt. My goodness, DD... it's
>>>> the SIMPLEST differential equation I know of.
>>>
>>>It is sir. Then I suggest you learn differential calculus, sir.
>>>
>> "Differential calculus" is a broad subject, sport.
>
>
>But you failed the basics, "Sport"
ROTFLMAO. Tell us again about how you can invent the "x"
value in determining "the derivative of y with respect to x"?
I deal in facts.. you deal in dribbling from the side of your mouth
bullshit.
>>You consider it
>> nothing but finding a derivative... called "differentiation." It is
>> hardly difficult knowing only the Cartesian coordinate system to
>> determine the slope of a line at a point using the tangent to
>> that point that is determined by approaching that point as
>> close as the infinitesimal limit.
>>
>> That minor part of the basics of "the Differential Calculus,"
>> does not touch upon solving "differential equations." Differential
>> equations relate functions of more than one variable to their
>> partial derivatives. I doubt you even can comprehend such a
>> concept, or how to approach solving a partial differential
>> equation.
>>
>>>>
>>>>>You still have not answered your problem, sir. I have noted your
>>>>>repeated
>>>>>efforts to avoid it.
>>>>
>>>> I don't have time for your bullshit,
>>>
>>>Your lack of backbone to admit that it is beyond you has been noted, sir.
>>>
>> And yet I found the time. Now when will we see anything but
>> jelly for your backbone???
>
>I wait patiently for your answers sir.
You already have them, Sir shit-for-brains. And you must be sweating
about now, realizing just how exposed your ignorance has become.
>*snip 57 pages of detritus*
"You're just guessing."
Planet Visitor II
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/dictionary.html
>
>-
>
>J
"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:qfvv16d288setpa55...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 03:23:34 +0100, "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>news:i7fo16tpc4pq0dvfm...@4ax.com...
>>
>>> On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 19:10:15 +0100, "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey... Sir shit-for-brains. Did you forget this one??? Here it is
>>> again.
>>>
>>
>>I had previously imagined that you abandoned this thread as you were
>>obviously out of your depth.
>
> ROTFLMAO. The moment you saw that response from me, you immediately
> disappeared for a week. And that's a FACT, since you cannot produce a
> comment from you during the period 8 June until 16 June.
>
53 pages of written abuse from you, sir. You are a sick, man, sir. Both Mr
Rennie and Yitzhak warned me of you. It is time that I took heed.
-
J
Wrong, Death Disco. I merely warned you to stay clear of
Desmond and Jim's tiresome squabbles.
> From: John Rennie <john-...@talktalk.net>
> Reply-To: john-...@talktalk.net
> Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 15:38:07 +0100
> Subject: Re: High court rules out life sentences for some juveniles
>
Let me add for Death Disco's information that these squabbles have been
going on for years.
Donna Evleth
>> Wrong, Death Disco. I merely warned you to stay clear of Desmond and
>> Jim's tiresome squabbles.
> Let me add for Death Disco's information that these squabbles have been
> going on for years.
Who is this 'Desmond'? I initially thought it was another facet of Nazi
Noles's illness, but it's starting to look like he really was an invincible
destroyer of Nazi Noles. I want to meet him!
Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
AADP's 'left-wing Israeli intellectual'
'One of the chief tasks of any dialogue with the Gentile world is to
prove that the distinction between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism is
not a distinction at all'
(Abba Eban (1915-2000))
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>
What we do know is that Desmond Edward Coughlan just admitted to rooting
pigs.
Sambo
> Y.
>>>I had previously imagined that you abandoned this thread as you were
>>>obviously out of your depth.
>> ROTFLMAO. The moment you saw that response from me, you immediately
>> disappeared for a week. And that's a FACT, since you cannot produce a
>> comment from you during the period 8 June until 16 June.
> 53 pages of written abuse from you, sir. You are a sick, man, sir. Both
> Mr Rennie and Yitzhak warned me of you. It is time that I took heed.
A general (but reliable) 'rule-of-thumb' on this newsgroup is that the
longer and more hysterical are Nazi Noles's replies, the more you're
getting to him.
So far, I hold the record for driving him insane. I posted a four-line
post in 2003 to which he responded with a 9,545-line rant. I only read the
first twenty or thirty lines of course, but in those twenty lines, he
called me 'a Nazi' (eleven times), accused my wife of being 'an Albanian
poledancer' (four times), my father of having carried out the Brinks Mat
robbery (once), my mother of having been responsible for the Sack of Rome,
and my entire family of having carried out every atrocity from roughly 500
BCE to the present day.
If you can better that, I'll be impressed. :-)
He accused my mother of fornicating with a donkey, sir. I must be succeeding
pretty well.
-
J
Good advice, John. I've recognized long ago that they have become
tiresome. And while Desmond continues to try and draw me out into
responding as PV, I have only violated my promise one time since
I promised to always use this handle. I again apologize for that
one time purposeful gaffe, hoping it would grab your eye. But
now... no more PV with Desmond.
Anyway... it's look like you'll have to kill file Death Disco if he
keeps ensuring that my comments under this handle are displayed
in his comments.
A Jew deconstructing desmond coughlan
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/dictionary.html
>
>
>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:qfvv16d288setpa55...@4ax.com...
>
>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 03:23:34 +0100, "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Planet Visitor II" <na...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>news:i7fo16tpc4pq0dvfm...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 19:10:15 +0100, "Death Disco" <iseer...@pIL.co>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey... Sir shit-for-brains. Did you forget this one??? Here it is
>>>> again.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I had previously imagined that you abandoned this thread as you were
>>>obviously out of your depth.
>>
>> ROTFLMAO. The moment you saw that response from me, you immediately
>> disappeared for a week. And that's a FACT, since you cannot produce a
>> comment from you during the period 8 June until 16 June.
>>
>
>53 pages of written abuse from you, sir.
And you clipped them all because you realize how devastating they
are to proving your ignorance and insanity.
> You are a sick, man, sir. Both Mr
>Rennie and Yitzhak warned me of you. It is time that I took heed.
TRANSLATION "That FUCKING PV must have a crystal ball. I wish
I wasn't what he found me to be so I could show he is not correct,
but the bastard hit the nail right on the head."
ROTFLMAO... As Death Disco curls up in the fetal position in the
corner of his room and whines hysterically that mean ol' PV is
"abusing him," just because Death Disco has nothing else but lies,
hate, ignorance, and mindless drivel.
Now about those answers to my questions, Sir shit-for-brains. I
suspect you realize now that you let your ass overload your mouth.
Well... I've heard that stage entertainment is where the money is...
How's that sister-shagging of yours getting along. Is she getting
tired of getting reamed by you every night?
Hey...
question -- How did Death Disco's mother conceive Death Disco?
Answer -- His father had an orgasm in the shoe of Death Disco's
mother, and the flies did the rest.
A Jew deconstructing desmond coughlan
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/dictionary.html
>
> Hey...
> question -- How did Death Disco's mother conceive Death Disco?
> Answer -- His father had an orgasm in the shoe of Death Disco's
> mother, and the flies did the rest.
Virgin birth?
Sambo
How odd, sir. Have you always moved around in those circles?
-
J