More on Jigsaw's 'Experience' ...
JIGSAW1695
>From: Desmond Coughlan pasdespa...@zeouane.org
>Date: 1/17/2003 2:14 AM Eastern Standard Time
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>... that 'all criminals deny their acts' ...
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> 'To the family of Jeanne Drew, I'm sorry from the very centre of my
>Desmond Coughlan
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He was found guilty.
his case was reviewed.
He was executed for his crimes.
Case closed.
JIGSAW1695
From: Desmond Coughlan pasdespa...@zeouane.org
Date: 1/17/2003 7:08 AM Eastern Standard Time
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le 17 Jan 2003 09:53:17 GMT, dans l'article
<20030117045317...@mb-fb.aol.com>, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com>
a dit ...
>>... that 'all criminals deny their acts' ...
>>
>> 'To the family of Jeanne Drew, I'm sorry from the very centre of my
> He was found guilty.
> his case was reviewed.
> He was executed for his crimes.
> Case closed.
Yes, but what about your claim of only a few days ago, that ...
'It has been my experience that all criminals claim that the did not
commit the crime from the day they are arrested to the last day they
are in jail.' [1]
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: More on Jigsaw's 'Experience' ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 07:14:47 +0000
>
>... that 'all criminals deny their acts' ...
>
> 'To the family of Jeanne Drew, I'm sorry from the very centre of my
> heart' [1]
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Poor Desi, drunk again! The Dr. Dolly Coughlan archive exists because Desmond
Coughlan lacks conviction in his words. He won't allow his posts to be archived
in Google. Please feel free to use it to your advantage.
Dr. Dolly Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: More on Jigsaw's 'Experience' ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:08:26 +0000
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>le 17 Jan 2003 09:53:17 GMT, dans l'article
><20030117045317...@mb-fb.aol.com>, JIGSAW1695
><jigsa...@aol.com> a dit ...
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>>>... that 'all criminals deny their acts' ...
>>>
>>> 'To the family of Jeanne Drew, I'm sorry from the very centre of my
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>> He was found guilty.
>> his case was reviewed.
>> He was executed for his crimes.
>> Case closed.
>
>Yes, but what about your claim of only a few days ago, that ...
>
> 'It has been my experience that all criminals claim that the did not
> commit the crime from the day they are arrested to the last day they
> are in jail.' [1]
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: More on Jigsaw's 'Experience' ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:22:09 +0000
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>le 17 Jan 2003 13:56:25 GMT, dans l'article
><20030117085625...@mb-ce.aol.com>, JIGSAW1695
><jigsa...@aol.com> a dit ...
>
>>> >>... that 'all criminals deny their acts' ...
>>> >>
>>> >> 'To the family of Jeanne Drew, I'm sorry from the very centre of
>my
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>> >> He was found guilty.
>> >> his case was reviewed.
>> >> He was executed for his crimes.
>> >> Case closed.
>
>>> Yes, but what about your claim of only a few days ago, that ...
>>>
>>> 'It has been my experience that all criminals claim that the did
>>> not commit the crime from the day they are arrested to the last
>>> day they are in jail.' [1]
>
>> As I said:
>>
>> He was found guilty.
>> his case was reviewed.
>> He was executed for his crimes.
>> Case closed.
>
>Which still doesn't explain why you seemed to think that ...
>
> 'all criminals claim that the [sic] did not commit the crime from the
> day they are arrested to the last day they are in jail.'
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JackHac
Who the fuck is this, just out of interest?
> Poor Desi, drunk again!
I'd sooner be labelled a drunkard, than an obsessive.
Tell me, how many bunnies have you boiled this week so far?
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JackH
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"JackHac" <jackha...@spammapsyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:b0aeq6$ao7$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Dr. Dolly Coughlan wrote:
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> Who the fuck is this, just out of interest?
>
<meaningless comment clipped>
PV
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JackHac
> "JackHac" <jackha...@spammapsyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:b0aeq6$ao7$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> Dr. Dolly Coughlan wrote:
>>
>> Who the fuck is this, just out of interest?
> Intrusive little prick... aren't you??
Not at all... but one has to wonder about the motives and mental status of
someone who goes to these lengths to harrass someone via usenet, FuckWit.
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JackH
Richard J
Jack, who gives a shit? kill file the ignorant bastard and let him
spend his time spamming the news group.
Teflon
A Planet Visitor
"JackHac" <jackha...@spammapsyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:b0bf8t$eqh$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
Another comment from an 'articulate abolitionist.' ROTFLMAO.
PV
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JackHac
> "JackHac" <jackha...@spammapsyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> A Planet Visitor wrote:
>>> "JackHac" <jackha...@spammapsyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:b0aeq6$ao7$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>>> Dr. Dolly Coughlan wrote:
>>>> Who the fuck is this, just out of interest?
>>> Intrusive little prick... aren't you??
>> Not at all... but one has to wonder about the motives and mental
>> status of someone who goes to these lengths to harrass someone via
>> usenet, FuckWit.
> Another comment from an 'articulate abolitionist.' ROTFLMAO.
Abolitionist of what, exactly?
If we're talking about you, yes I'd be happy to see you abolished,
FuckWit...
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A Planet Visitor
"JackHac" <jackha...@spammapsyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:b0ce67$7mv$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk...
to protect murderers, but are quite willing to carry out killings on
those who disagree with such protection. Apparently you feel that
way. And clearly, I hope in my retentionist mode, that you do not
consider ending your posting style.. since you represent to the
abolitionist 'movement,' what crap represents to a bowel 'movement.'
PV
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JackHac
Whatever... I've not stated anything near to an opinion in here with regards
to whether I am pro or anti death penalty, FuckWit.
You still, however, haven't answered my initial question... who is it that
generates the 'Dr Dolly Coughlan' posts?
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JackH
JackHac
> le Sat, 18 Jan 2003 20:05:02 GMT, dans l'article
> <OriW9.139906$j8.37...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor
> <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
>
>>>>> Who the fuck is this, just out of interest?
>
>>>> Intrusive little prick... aren't you??
>
>>> Not at all... but one has to wonder about the motives and mental
>>> status of someone who goes to these lengths to harrass someone via
>>> usenet, FuckWit.
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>> Another comment from an 'articulate abolitionist.' ROTFLMAO.
> LMAO !! FuckWit gets it wrong _again_, and calls a deathie
> 'abolitionist'.
He can call me what he likes... it's not like he's significant now, is it...
;)
> Oh, stop it, FuckWit ... I'm choking with laugther
> (quick, the list, FW ! The list !!) ...
Which planet is he on???
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"JackHac" <jackha...@spammapsyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:b0e8g2$p8o$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
Since I am a retentionist, there is the clear implication that you oppose
retaining the DP, and wish it abolished. Of course, the entire sum of
all your 'arguments' here (a total of eight silly contributions), have been
laughably inadequate to determine if you even 'have' a view... but that
doesn't surprise me (or is that suprise [sic], desi?).
> You still, however, haven't answered my initial question... who is it that
> generates the 'Dr Dolly Coughlan' posts?
I have no idea... Perhaps it is desi's long-lost sister, who earned her
'doctorate,' which desi always tries to convince us he is 'thinking
of pursuing.' I know that occasionally desi's Mother, 'Becky,' posts
here... every time desi posts something so repugnant that she needs
to denounce her contribute to his existence. 'Dolly' is a 'bot' meant only
to 'capture' every word that desi posts here, and insure it is archived
to google. Since desi has turned his 'archive-off,' permitting him to
deny ever having posted his lies, as soon as they vanish from the
active newsreaders.
PV
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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message news:supd0b....@lievre.voute.net...
> le Sat, 18 Jan 2003 20:05:02 GMT, dans l'article <OriW9.139906$j8.37...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor
<abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
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> >> > Intrusive little prick... aren't you??
>
> >> Not at all... but one has to wonder about the motives and mental status of
> >> someone who goes to these lengths to harrass someone via usenet, FuckWit.
>
> > Another comment from an 'articulate abolitionist.' ROTFLMAO.
>
> The list !!) ...
Since he has stated toward me -- "I'd be happy to see you abolished."
There is hardly a question that such is another of the same form of
'articulate abolitionist' ca-ca that you provide. As John Rennie said
of you -- ".... I often feel the same after reading yet another ludicrous
comment from Desmond. He does 'enormous damage' to the
abolitionist cause."
>
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> Ayatollah desi |Superlunary and Most Exalted
> |Spiritual Leader of the Universal
> |Right to Life Church. (umm... get
> |away from me -- you filthy black
> |starving child in Africa) 'My church'
> |isn't for you.
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Am I obsessed with fighting 'evil'? Damn... I'm 'Superman' when
it comes to fighting desi's 'forces of evil.' References to a post which
insightfully pronounced of desi --
"'Cancerous' is almost a compliment when one views most of
desi's comments -- other forms spring more easily to mind --
it is a parasitic diarrhea of the brain... it is crazy chick disease
transferred to our thinking process -- it is a swarm of latrine flies
settling on our ability to process information --- it is maggots
feasting on the bodies of numberless victims of murder. It is
madness. utter madness. It is Desmond Coughlan."
Every evil, vile thought that has ever swept across this group from
desi's pen, as Genghis Kahn (or Attila the Hun, if you prefer) swept
his broad scythe of rape, death and destruction, in long, broad,
excruciating strokes across Europe, stand as stark images of his
perverse character. And we stand witness to that depravity.
A Planet Visitor
"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message news:6pae0b....@lievre.voute.net...
> le Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:18:37 -0000, dans l'article <b0e8i9$76u$1...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>, JackHac
<jackha...@spammapsyahoo.co.uk> a dit ...
>
> { snip }
>
> >> Oh, stop it, FuckWit ... I'm choking with laugther (quick, the list, FW
> >> ! The list !!) ...
>
> > Which planet is he on???
>
> 'victory', when everyone can see that he's had his 'ass' (sic) tanned so
> badly that the black smoke belching from it is threatening civil aviation
> in a ten-mile radius.
>
Desi pathetically looks for a 'friend.' ho ho ho... sorry, bubblehead..
if he has any 'intelligence' at all, he will quickly recognize you for the
'evil' that you truly are.
> A couple of memorable ones are when he made reference to France's 'Election
> Secrecy Law'. Now (get ready for this !) ... there _is_ no such law in
> France. Ho, ho, ho ... I responded to each of his 'points', with hard
> evidence of the background and context to the laws in France which
> guarantee the dignity of the electoral process ...
>
>
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?q=group:alt.activism.death-penalty+author:Desmond+author:Coughlan&hl=fr&lr=&ie=UTF-8
&selm=slrnasd7jb.3fb.pasdespam_desmond%40lievre.voute.net&rnum=2
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Never the one to not 'plead for a spanking,' desi again provide a post
of his which clearly demonstrated his ignorance.
PV can only sigh again, and as if speaking to a child, note that
for all of desi's hysterical ravings, they represent only a repeat of
those words which have been totally destroyed by my good self.
He simply repeats them over and over, and believes he might
'wear me down,' so he can claim some SG Seminal Axiom
(quick desi... look it up) 6). I will not play his silly game, by
simply repeating what has already served to demolish him.
A post thoroughly demolished in every respect. Thankfully,
God has given us the capacity to recognize that most ignorance
is vincible ignorance. In desi's case, his ignorance is even
more easily vincible. Such is the case in his above 'argument'
that France enjoys unlimited 'freedom of expression,' in the URL
he proposes to offer. An 'argument' that was totally destroyed,
piece by ignorant piece in --
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=bSKx9.126091%24r7.2296002%40twister.tampabay.rr.com
desi apparently believes that 'dignity' is such that one cannot express
an 'opinion' as to the choices available in the election process. The
same form of 'dignity' exists in many States that provide only one
name on the voting ballot.. we call them 'dictatorships.' There was a
clear abridging of 'freedom of expression,' in the electoral process in
the recent French election, which desi is blind to see.
> His response was to repeat what he had said in a previous post,
> disregarding the ridicule that had rained down upon him from all quarters.
>
> Another one was when he argued about 'mitigating circumstances' with
> dirtdog, an English-based solicitor. I don't have the URL of that one to
> hand, but in fact, he posted a URL that _contradicted_ his own position.
> In short, he _proved himself wrong_ with his own post. ROTFLMAO !!
>
Actually, I proved 16!!... That's sixteen, CLEAR POSITIVE proofs of
cites, statutes and definitions which PROVED dirtbag (Louise) was
speaking through his nether orifice. None of them were even remotely
refuted or disproved by that backwoods presumed lawyer. Just for
kicks... the 'argument was that dirtbag claimed that 'mitigating
circumstances' COULD NOT reduce the degree of the crime. I
provided these 16 references which show that 'mitigating circumstances'
CAN reduce the degree of the crime in SOME instances. --
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1) United States 6th Circuit Court of Appeals -
Rhodes c. Brigano
url:http://www.law.emory.edu/6circuit/aug96/96a0246p.06.html
"Being under the influence of sudden passion or in a sudden fit
of rage, either of which is brought on by serious provocation
ccasioned by the victim that is reasonably sufficient to incite
the defendant into using deadly force[,] is a mitigating
circumstance, which reduces what would otherwise be
murder to voluntary manslaughter."
2) State of Montana Criminal Code 45-5-103
url:http://data.opi.state.mt.us/bills/mca/45/5/45-5-103.htm
It is an affirmative defense that the defendant acted
under the influence of extreme mental or emotional
stress as provided in subsection (1). This defense
constitutes a mitigating circumstance reducing
deliberate homicide to mitigated deliberate homicide
and must be proved by the defendant by a preponderance
of the evidence.
Thought you said 'affirmative defense'' cannot be a
'mitigating circumstance'? State of Montana Criminal
Code disputes that view.
3) Criminal statute of the State of Oregon
url:http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/163.html
"163.118 Manslaughter in the first degree. (1)
Criminal homicide constitutes manslaughter in the
first degree when:
(b) It is committed intentionally by a defendant
under the influence of extreme emotional disturbance
as provided in ORS 163.135, which constitutes a
mitigating circumstance reducing the homicide that
would otherwise be murder to manslaughter in the
first degree and need not be proved in any prosecution"
4) Criminal statute of the State of Illinois
url:http://www.legis.state.il.us/ilcs/ch720/ch720act5articles/ch720act5Sub9.htm
720 ILCS 5/9-2)
Sec. 9-2. Second Degree Murder. (a) A person commits
the offense of second degree murder when he commits the
offense of first degree murder as defined in paragraphs (1)
or (2) of subsection (a) of Section 9-1 of this Code and either
of the following mitigating factors are present:
(1) At the time of the killing he is acting under a sudden
and intense passion resulting from serious provocation by
the individual killed or another whom the offender endeavors
to kill, but he negligently or accidentally causes the death
of the individual killed; or
(2) At the time of the killing he believes the circumstances
to be such that, if they existed, would justify or exonerate the
killing under the principles stated in Article 7 of this Code,
but his belief is unreasonable.
'Mitigating factors' reduce the degree of the crime.
5) Commonwealth of Massachuttes v. Meshach Little
url:http://www.socialaw.com/sjcslip/7949.html
"'If any view of the evidence . . . would permit a verdict
of manslaughter rather than murder, a manslaughter
charge should be given.' Commonwealth v. Brooks,
422 Mass. 574, 578 (1996). One of the mitigating
circumstances that would render the crime a voluntary
'manslaughter . . . [is] a killing from a sudden transport
of passion or heat of blood, upon a reasonable
provocation and without malice, or upon sudden combat"
Mitigating circumstances of 'passion or heat of blood,'
reducing murder to manslaughter.
6) -- A State of New York Appellate ruling
url:http://www.courts.state.ny.us/ctapps/decisions/127opn.pdf
From page 2 --
"Thus, the fact "that [a] homicide was committed under
the influence of extreme emotional disturbance constitutes
a mitigating circumstance reducing murder to manslaughter
in the first degree" (Penal Law § 125.20[2])."
Note that not only does a 'mitigating circumstance' have
the possibility of 'reducing murder to manslaughter in the
first degree,' that 'extreme emotional disturbance' constitutes
a 'mitigating circumstance.'
7) -- A U.S. Supreme Court Ruling # 99-478 See
url:http://supreme.lp.findlaw.com/supreme_court/briefs/99-478/99-478fo3/brief.pdf
Quoting from the middle of that ruling --
"Alternatively, a State might elect to set the greatest
maximum penalty for all persons who commit a
particular offense, while providing for affirmative
defenses (or mitigating factors) to be proved by
the defendant in order to obtain a lesser penalty.
Cf. Patterson v. New York, supra (State may
provide for an affirmative defense of extreme emotional
disturbance that mitigates murder to manslaughter to
be proved by the preponderance of the evidence)."
See again that 'extreme emotional disturbance' which
the New York appellate court found to be a 'mitigating
circumstance' can again mitigate the crime of murder
to the lesser crime of manslaughter.
8) - the State of Tennessee, for one, also considers
EXACTLY that .. See
url:http://chattanooga.net/~bjpetty/deathlaw.html
Quoting from THAT statute -- "In arriving at
the punishment the jury shall consider, as heretofore
indicated, any mitigating circumstances which shall
include, but are not limited to, the following:
....
(2) The murder was committed which the defendant
was under the influence of extreme mental or emotional
disturbance."
9) A Court opinion of the State of Vermont Supreme
Court. See --
url:http://www.state.vt.us/atg/april2001%20law%20month.htm
Quoting an excerpt from that opinion --
"The critical factor distinguishing second degree murder
from voluntary manslaughter is not the mental state of
the actor, but the existence of mitigating circumstances."
10) -- The Criminal Statute of the State of Maine, U.S.-
url:http://janus.state.me.us/legis/statutes/17-A/title17-Asec203.html
QUOTING from the Criminal Statute --
"The fact that the person causes the death while under
the influence of extreme anger or extreme fear brought
about by adequate provocation constitutes a mitigating
circumstance reducing murder to manslaughter and
need not be proved in any prosecution initiated under
this subsection; or [1989, c. 505, §1(amd).]"
11) The Penal Code of the State of New York
url:http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?cl=82&a=28
"S 125.20 Manslaughter in the first degree.
A person is guilty of manslaughter in the first degree when:
....With intent to cause the death of another person, he
causes the death of such person or of a third person
under circumstances which do not constitute murder
because he acts under the influence of extreme emotional
disturbance, as defined in paragraph (a) of subdivision
one of section 125.25. The fact that homicide was
committed under the influence of extreme emotional
disturbance constitutes a mitigating circumstance
reducing murder to manslaughter in the first degree
and need not be proved in any prosecution initiated under
this subdivision"
Ummm... 'extreme emotional disturbance' = 'mitigating
circumstance' = reduce murder to manslaughter in the
1st Degree.
12) -- From Black's Law Dictionary --
MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCES --
"Mitigating circumstances which will reduce degree of
homicide to manslaughter are the commission of the
killing in a sudden heat of passion caused by adequate
legal provocation. (People v. Morris 31 Michigan Appeals
Report 301, 187 North Western Reporter 2d 434, 438.)"
13) A definition from Lawyers.com
url:http://www.lawyers.com/lawyers-com/executable/glossary/defpage.asp?SEQNO=5592
"MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCE -
"a circumstance in the commission of an act that lessens
the degree of criminal culpability <was convicted of manslaughter
rather than murder because of mitigating circumstances>"
14) A definition from Findlaw.com
url:http://dictionary.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/results.pl?co=laws.lp.findlaw.com&topic
=b8/b85f6c1475ce965def1144cca45b5807
MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCE
": a circumstance in the commission of an act that lessens
the degree of criminal culpability Example: was convicted
of manslaughter rather than murder because of mitigating
circumstances"
15) A definition from Law.com
url:http://dictionary.law.com/definition2.asp?selected=1267&bold=||||
"Mitigating Circumstances --
n. in criminal law, conditions or happenings which do not
excuse or justify criminal conduct, but are considered out of
mercy or fairness in deciding the degree of the offense the
prosecutor charges or influencing reduction of the penalty
upon conviction. Example: a young man shoots his father
after years of being beaten, belittled, sworn at and treated
without love. "Heat of passion" or "diminished capacity" are
forms of such mitigating circumstances."
16) A definition from Lectlaw.com
url:http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/m036.htm
"MITIGATING FACTORS - Information about a defendant or
the circumstances of a crime that might tend to lessen
the sentence or the crime with which the person is charged.
MITIGATION - To make less rigorous or penal."
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And then you question 'why' I am the most prolific poster here? It's
necessary to counter your lies and deceptions, desi.
> Then there are the 'major spankings', such as when he claimed that O.J.
> Simpson had been 'found guilty' of murder in a civil court ...
>
>
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl237779726d&dq=&hl=fr&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=C4%2579.335449%24XH.7441899%40twister.
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You will NOT find that reference provides any quote from me
that states O.J. was "found guilty of murder." I misspoke in
terms of a civil trial and said "he WAS found guilty in a civil court."
Which should, of course, have been worded as 'found liable.'
BFD. As usual, desi 'adds' the imaginary word 'murder.'
I notice that desi hasn't mentioned making a fool of himself in the
Louise Woodward case, where he was forced to RETRACT a great
number of insults and claims that he was 'so right,' in respect to
the powers of the Judge in the case --
See --
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20020830212952.10684.00000094%40mb-cu.aol.com&oe=UTF-8
His admission that he had his head up his nether regions were his words --
"Based on my original reading of Rule 25[b][2], I stated that Judge Zobel
could not have overturned the guilty verdict, and that the only option
open to him, was to reduce the verdict of second degree murder, to a
lesser charge, namely that of manslaughter.
Upon further investigation, however, it would appear that he was, in
fact, authorised to both reduce the verdict, and (if necessary) quash
it completely. An e-mail that I received last night, from the Massachusetts
Bar Association, would appear to confirm this view.
Unless new information comes to light, I thus confirm that, _as far as
I am able to ascertain_, PV is right."
One can find an enlightening commentary on the many of the stupid...
sorry, STUPID... comments that desi made in his imitation of a
clown at
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=KMtU9.73255%24Sa3.1731670%40twister.tampabay.rr.com&oe=UTF-8
He further compounded his 'clownish behavior,' by confusing an
appeal petition from the defense, with a ruling of the State Supreme
Court. See
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=2FCI9.323760%24fa.6235402%40twister.tampabay.rr.com&oe=UTF-8
> Of course, _no one_ is found guilty of murder in civil courts. That's not
> what they're there for. Such a brutal thrashing could have been excused as
> a 'misspeak' (which is what he tried to claim), were it not for his
> subsequent claim that one can be 'prosecuted for libel' ...
>
>
url:http://groups.google.fr/groups?ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=WRGB9.301346%24S8.6144624%40twister.tampabay.rr.com&lr=&as_sc
oring=d&hl=fr
>
> There was also his mention of UKRM, and of his fervent wish that posters
> there would have me murdered ...
>
>
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=fr&lr=&ie=UTF-8&frame=right&th=cbb26c253835af7f&seekm=ubLv9.79686%24r7.1593261%40
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>
Simply another lie, since the words 'murder' 'murdered', or 'killed' do not appear
in that entire short post of mine.
> Then there are his 'routine' misrepresentations of the words of others.
> Like when he claimed that another poster, 'YMT', had said that the United
> States Constitution was handed down from God on stone tablets ...
>
>
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>
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>
> It goes without saying that 'YMT' said no such thing ... not forgetting
> his claim that I believe that God grants the right to life ...
>
>
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>
Quite clearly that wasYMT's direct implication. Just as your silly, and
immature implication that there is a timeless and eternal Universal
'right to life.' Which clearly you presumed was YOURS to define and
provide for 'mankind,' in some form of 'spiritual word from God.' While
ignorant of those who are OBVIOUSLY deprived of your presumed
'natural, God-given, timeless' right, you conjured up from your imagination,
and your belief that you are 'in touch with God.'
> ... or his racist belief that Germans are not very clever ...
>
>
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=KfRi9.6193%24yB5.253233%40twister.tampabay.rr.com&lr=&hl=fr
>
Ah, yes... this to a German poster who remarked that the U.S. should
place a 'star' (does anyone fail to make a particular connection to that
word from a German?) on it's banner, to signify Israel as the 53rd (sic)
State of the U.S. I believe I remarked that this German was not very 'clever'
and would have difficulty 'debating' Sharp, and I noted that a German
Justice Minister had referred to Bush in a public statement as 'resembling
aspects of Hitler.' That too, didn't sound very 'clever' to me, and she
was dropped from the cabinet at the first opportunity.
While you believe they 'smell of sausage.'... with your quote of --
"it was German beer ... now, if only I could get the smell of sausage
out of the bloody bottles" And do you have any idea how often you have
attacked the 'intelligence' of American?
1) "...Americans don't even know how to spell the word, let alone comprehend
the concept"
2) "one can hardly be surprised if all Americans are as stupid as you."
3) "One day you stupid Americans will realize that I have a superiour
education."
4) "Unfortunately, this sort of thinking is at present way beyond the
reasoning power of 99 % of Americans."
5) "Only to idiotic redneck Americans..."
6) "either Americans are stupid, or sadistic bastards."
7) "'spag /spAIG/ adj. & n. sl. "spastic", "stupid person", used to refer to
Americans..."
8) "typical dumbfuck American's ignorance"
9) "idiotic buffoons that are Americans,"
10) "I shall have no choice but to remind the group of the American for 'foreplay'.
A dig in the ribs, and the words, 'You ready ?'"
After ten examples of your raging racism (yes... YOUR RACISM... and
your bigotry), I felt the newsgroup should not endure more... but there is
MUCH more, and everyone knows it.
You're without a doubt the greatest racist this group has ever seen. You
want to see who is a 'Racist'? Here is YOUR racism... direct words from you --
1) "I cream in my pants when they execute a dumbfuck nigga fry black fucker,"
2) In describing your idea of a 'typical' robber, somehow it always
ends up to be a Black. Your words in describing the words of someone
intent on robbery -- "Gimmie da money, honkey mothafucka, oh ah toast
yo ass !!"
3) And in another post, almost the same -- "'Gimme da dough,
mothafucka o ah toast yo ass !!'"
4) Calling others -- "smelly 'Jigaboo' Ausländer."
5) Posting to me -- "I even 'tweaked' your nose a few days back, by using the
word 'jigaboo'" Presuming he insults ME, rather than an entire race.
6) And again to me "same bestial beating administered to LDB's now
almost 'jigaboo' buttocks"
7) And again -- "Paris is an oasis of safety, be you jigaboo (ho, ho, ho ...) or not."
8)And again to me -- ":Say, LDB... how come your "ass" [sic] is so
jigaboo these days ?' ... "
9) And again "France (the Greatest Country on the Face of the Earth, BTW) did
not 'lose' the match against those jigaboo (*snigger*) upstarts, QZD."
10) "it was German beer ... now, if only I could get the smell of sausage
out of the bloody bottles"
11) "Indeed, perhaps if the floods that are presently threatening Germany,
had been controlled before they swept across into Europe, from the Czech
Republic and Poland, then this fair continent would have been saved the
same fate as the smelly 'auslanders'."
12) Finding that reporting the death of a great civil rights activist is
inappropriate and making some grave racially charged comments regarding
that passing.
13) And even turning your infamous no-archive off to pointedly demonstrate
you are an announced racist when he did so to say "FW seems to have a
masochist streak that leads him to present his 'jigaboo' (*chuckle*) buttocks
to the assembled throng on AADP and _beg_ to be spanked." Obviously you
find racial slurs to be 'funny,' rather than destructive.
14) "'Wow, did you see the way that nigga bucked when my slugs hit 'im ..?!'"
> ... or the fact that he thinks that Geneva is in France ...
>
>
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>
Silly boy... doing a find on a restaurant in Paris, and mistakenly hitting
a link to one with the same name in Geneva, is hardly believing that
'Geneva is in France,' or that 'Geneva is Paris.' However, when one
confuses the NUMBER of continents on our planet THAT represents
a grave lapse in KNOWLEDGE of our planet, rather than providing a
mistaken link. That is an 'INTELLECTUAL' lapse... that was your
lapse, and one, the type of which we are well familiar seeing from you.
> ... LOL ... so many 'FuckWit fuck-ups', so little time ...
>
> His biggest 'Achilles heel' is his education. Or lack of it. A certain
> poster here who is a former research director at the French Centre National
> de la Recherche Scientifique [1], thrashes FW to within an inch of his life
> every time he posts. It's quite cute to see FW jump up and claim
> 'victory', when that happens. It almost makes you want to go, 'Awwww ...
> bless !'
>
LOL... A senile, pompous old fart who cannot provide a logical thought.
Who just yesterday stated that being arrested makes one a criminal
in NY City. How very typical. Apparently forgetting something called
'a trial.' ho ho ho... What a 'scientist'!!!! And of course, this is simply
desi GIMMICK # 2 -- A claim of 'vast educational achievements' (never
demonstrated -- only claimed), as presuming he is a 'winner.' desi's
various GIMMICKS have already been noted, and usually run like
this --
GIMMICK # 1 -- He searches feverishly for some pedantic point, as a
chimp searches for fleas on his body. Where, finding them, even
if they are imaginary, he will thereby claims 'grammar victory.' He 'lives'
for the 'missing comma,' the 'misspelled word,' or the 'imaginary
morpheme.' One can easily recognize when he uses this GIMMICK.
In every instance of him providing a '(sic),' to a word another has used,
it is as if God has rubber-stamped his forehead with the word 'LOSER.'
GIMMICK # 2 -- He claims 'vast educational and intellectual capacity.'
Accompanied by a comment which disparages that same capacity in
the one he is responding to. Most frequently used to imply that all
Americans are 'uneducated,' while he has received a 'classical education.'
One should note that when his 'classical education' is threatened with
exposure, he will respond by claiming the other is a 'pseudo-intellectual.'
Whenever he encounters a term used by another that he is unfamiliar
with... the old 'pseudo-intellectual' GIMMICK # 2 comes out of his
repertoire of GIMMICKS.
GIMMICK # 3 -- Presentation of a bold-faced lie. Denying what he has
written, which is his obvious intent in hiding his posting history. He has
done this in 'claiming' his flat was firebombed by another poster, that
this other poster was sent to prison because of his efforts, and on
dozens of other occasions, in respect to dozens of other lies he has
presented. Saying one thing, and later saying quite the opposite, and
denying his first comment. Claiming he 'fears' death so much that the
excreta would be running down his leg if faced with death... see
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=slrn8sia9a.hjj.desmond%40lievre.voute.net&oe=UTF-8
and then claiming that 'I do not fear death' in the following post, plus
many others. See
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=D40o8.293959%24TV4.42072274%40typhoon.tampabay.rr.c
om
Desmond has no shame... no embarrassment... no integrity... no principles...
no ethics... no honesty... no decency...no honor... no sense of moral
values. He is bereft of any concept of truthfulness. And when one
recognizes that, it becomes much easier to laugh at his lies. I
find it hilarious to continue to point them out.
GIMMICK # 4 - A claim that anyone who posts anonymously must be
'untruthful,' BY DEFINITION. While he hides his own posting history,
and does not know the meaning of 'truth.' This GIMMICK is easily
identified, since one can hear in the background, the sound of Colonel
Bogey's March, whistling through the emptiness between his two ears.
GIMMICK # 5 -- He provides a bigoted insult to certain segments of our
species. Either racist, anti-Semitic, anti-American, or against ALL
retentionists. See
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20021024212911.18726.00000057%40mb-fe.aol.com&oe=UTF-8
where he posted --
"When we as abolitionists, gaze down into the pit, and see the teeming
mass of deathies. When we shield our noses from the fetid stench of
rotting corpses mixed with the fresh smell of semen. When we look upon
their squat, evil faces, and yellow hate-filled eyes ... we, as dwellers
of the Light, have a moral duty to lift them from their vile, repulsive,
bestial fantasies. We must show them that orgasming over death, is not
the way that they show their humanity.
and
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20021024212910.18726.00000056%40mb-fe.aol.com&oe=UTF-8
where he posted --
"I engage in 'abuse' of deathies as a matter of course. That's what they're
there for. `echo $DEITY` gave them to us, much as She gave sparrows to
the domestic cat. They're our playthings. They have no relevance in the
real world, except to remind us of the dark side to human nature, that can
exist in all of us. They're like child rapists. Nazis. Torturers of
small animals.
All this pretence of 'let's be civil to one another' is nauseating. How can
you be 'civil' to garbage ?"
and
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20021024212912.18726.00000058%40mb-fe.aol.com&oe=UTF-8
where he posted --
"The deathies will look upon his departure, wipe the saliva from their chins,
and go back to masturbating over images of the 'gurney' (sic), or the
electric chair. We, the moral masters, the abolitionists, must show them
the huge damage that they have done, by driving out the only reasonable
one in their filthy midst."
Some of his other racist comments were --
Claiming he is grateful that a German poster was not called a "crazed, stinking,
neo-Nazi cunt" And lying by claiming I had called that poster a "dumbfuck Nazi
bastard," and a "dumbfuck Nazi cunt," neither of which you will find in my
posting history in google. Thus those are HIS words, to eat. And desi is again
a proven liar.
GIMMICK # 6 -- He provides an illogical argument under any conditions we
might examine of logic. He has claimed a number of his 'opinions' do not
require 'proof.' For example, in respect to the DP possibly having a
deterrent effect on murder, he has stated "It is not necessary for
abolitionists to 'prove' that it does not deter." But every logical principle holds
to "He Who asserts must prove." Referred to as 'semper praesumitur pro
negante.' A principle which demands that the person advancing the proposition
must prove it, since the presumption is ALWAYS IN THE NEGATIVE.
Desmond's lack of any capacity to logically examine any issue, leads to the
logical conclusion that his comments are worthless.
GIMMICK # 7 -- A display of a perverted character. Another of his favorites.
Perverse in his presence here... He loves to post pictures of 'dead and
decayed' bodies. See
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=bVhu9.1987%24OM6.70304%40newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net&oe=UTF-8
where he provides a link he has created http://www.zeouane.org/dp/blonde.html
to those 'dead and decayed' bodies. Which he has offered over and over,
accompanied by many of his patented perverted *giggles.* For example, his
comment in respect to the attack on a Moscow McDonald's which cost lives -- and
which he provided a *giggle* comment of --
"M
At least we know that they like good food ...
M"
See --
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20021020212952.10684.00003505%40mb-cu.aol.com
And then his crass, uncaring comment regarding the loss of life in
an aircraft crash off the California coast, proving another *giggle* See
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20021019213003.00278.00005374%40mb-md.aol.com&oe=UTF-8
And his obscene *giggle* at the huge loss of life in the Moscow theater
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20021024212938.18726.00000086%40mb-fe.aol.com&oe=UTF-8
He is famous for posting irrelevant URLs and comments which offer
his *giggles* in respect to tragedies. It seems every tragedy in the
world is greeted by him with such *giggles.* Including the WTC attack,
which he refers to with a (sic) every time 9-11 is mentioned here, and the
'prayer' (really... A PRAYER!!!), that he offered for the safe 'journey'
to Mexico of seven escaped murderers from a Texas prison. An
appeal to GOD -- to guide them to the Mexican border. See --
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=slrn93slmo.63.desmond%40gateway.voute.net&oe=UTF-8
There is also no doubt that he has a perverted sexual appetite, which
is frequently demonstrates in his lust for youthful nymphets. He
once said to another poster "send that 16-year-old niece of yours
around to give me a blowjob whenever I want one." See
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl638869775d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=diablo-F5D718.22561113012002%
40newsroom.utas.edu.au
He once posted his 'impression' of the last 43 seconds of a teenage
female murder victim, and related how "As she falls, her skirt rides up
over her hips. The man notes that she isn't wearing panties. 'I shoulda
raped her first, the whore ..." One can literally picture the drool forming
on desi lips as he thinks about what he describes... she falls... her
splayed thighs... her panty-less pubic area... and one could imagine the
stain that was forming on the front of desi's pants, as he visually imagined
how he wished he had raped her before murdering her. See --
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20020817212931.10131.00000274%40mb-fo.aol.com&oe=UTF-8
In general, desi totally avoids any issue relating to the DP, concentrating
more on his anti-American passion, and his hate for humanity in
general, while creating many issues which have nothing to do with the DP.
Those issues he creates almost always have some perversion involved in their
creation, or express some form of a *giggle* at tragedy.
GIMMICK # 8 -- Recently, as his mental decline progresses, this has become
his 'favorite.' Providing NOTHING except a meaningless kindergarten insult
which is what I've now referred to as 'mindless drivel.' And his decline
is accelerating. You can instantly recognize much of his 'mindless drivel,' since
it usually includes the words
*snigger*
*snort*
*cackle*
*boo*
*bwahahhahaha*
*chortle*
*guffaw*
*wheeze*
*dribble*
*cough*
*quack*
*clang*
and most recently his favorite -- 'fuckwit'
While he has claimed that this represents 'articulate' commentary.
For example he has called me a pedophile, no less than seven times
here, presuming it represents 'articulate argument.' His words --
1) "It might have flown right over your pointy little
redneck head as said head was bobbing up and down over
Dwight-the-Altar-Boy-From-Tampa's crotch"
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=diablo-7F7BB2.00235902032002%40newsroom.utas.edu.au&oe=UTF-8
2) "altar-boy shagging Bible-basher"
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=L7Po8.12823%24K52.2085263%40typhoon.tampabay.rr.com&oe=UTF-8
3) "altar-boy shagging prick"
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=DUTo8.16901%24K52.2590863%40typhoon.tampabay.rr.com&oe=UTF-8
4) "a bigoted old altar-boy-shagger"
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=0Dbg8.11590%24j93.3613806%40typhoon.tampabay.rr.com&oe=UTF-8
5) "you altar-boy-molesting dipshit."
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=FlVf8.13270%24TV4.1933557%40typhoon.tampabay.rr.com&oe=UTF-8
6) "Dwight the altar-boy from Wisconsin (or was he from
Tampa ? Can't remember. So many young boys, so
little time, eh, Jed ?) "
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=5qzg8.20855%24j93.5666102%40typhoon.tampabay.rr.com&oe=UTF-8
7) "Never mind, FuckWit ... you still have kiddie porn to look forward to."
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=OvuV9.128771%24j8.3431971%40twister.tampabay.rr.com&oe=UTF-8
So you decide for yourself if Desmond is possessed of a mind that is
not perverted in its thoughts.
GIMMICK # 9 -- He uses what was once analyzed by St. George (a most
observant and prescient poster), who formerly contributed here, that which
has come to be known as St. George Seminal Axiom 6) -- 'When faced with
utter defeat... simply clip everything and claim victory.'
GIMMICK # 10. His general use of an insult, containing nothing else. For
example he once called the Mother who had just had her son murdered -
perverse. See
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=slrn8o8gdj.iit.desmond%40lievre.voute.net&oe=UTF-8
This woman, assuming the handle 'bobbyc,' had come here temporarily trying
to find some understanding in respect to the horrendous murder of her son.
Rather than attempt to understand her pain... desi quite literally *giggled* as
he punched her in her emotional gut. Stating to her "your rather perverse taste
for state-sponsored murder." There is, in fact, a clear indication that
desi is an 'angry drunk' as well... since when he does post using this GIMMICK
it is obvious that he is most probably drunk at the time.. and like many drunks...
when he gets drunk he gets brutal. This relates to all his GIMMICKS,
since he has never held a dialog which has not ended up with him using
one of his GIMMICKS in raging fury... ending up slamming his forehead
against his desk. He was certainly drunk when he posted to bobbyc, and
most probably drunk during most of his tirades.
There are of course, numerous other sundry GIMMICKS he uses, since
they represent his entire stock-in-trade in posts to this group. At time to
time, I mention those others.
> He's a moron. A stupid, immature, reactionary, ineffectual, frustrated,
> uneducated, classless moron.
Thank you, desi --- your GIMMICK # 8.
> He would probably have left AADP long ago,
> but is supported by two intelligent posters who really should know better.
> They seem to hold him in some sort of 'rose-coloured light'. Perhaps it's
> the 'underdog' aspect. Who knows. Still, if you stick around, just take
> the piss out of FW. That's what he's there for.
>
For ust another short list of his 'intellectual' gaps in 'education' and
'intelligence, allow me to provide what desi has 'claimed' in various
posts. If interested, I can provided the references to his comments --
He claimed there are only six continents.
He confused the difference between 'imports' and 'exports'
He extolled the fact that "British citizens have freedom of movement
anywhere within the U.K." One would question why he would even
state something so obvious.
He 'lives' in France but is unable to correctly identify the world
famous Champagne from that country. Referring to it as Dom Perignan (sic).
He admitted he was too 'lazy' to do anything other than a 'fuzzy logic' check
to find the 'correct' spelling of Tourette's Syndrome. And then get it wrong,
EVEN after researching it.
He confused the prose of John Donne's 'For whom the bell tolls,'
presuming Hemingway had originally penned those words.
He had no idea what or who the Greek Goddess Apate represents.
He became totally confused and erratic when I used the word
'eisoptrophobia' which clearly was an appropriate application of the term.
He 'rejects the doctrine of punishment' for criminals.
He has been unable to decide if he fears or does not fear death? Having
said in one post he fears it, and in another that 'death holds no fear for him.'
He has claimed that released murderers are less likely to murder again
than persons who have never murdered before. Yet by every conservative
estimate at least 1 out of 100 (1%) of released murderers recommit
murder, while only about 6 out of every 100,000 murders is the U.S. murder
rate. You do the math.
He claimed that 'it is not necessary to prove that the DP does not deter'
for it to be true.
He claimed that 'the dead cannot be honored'
He claimed that Lockerbie was caused by 'wind shear'
He claimed the Balkans are not in Europe?
He claimed that in matters of morals, Europe has led the world for over
2000 years. Ummm... need I mention events of 60-some years ago?
He claimed that 'quote' is not a noun. ho ho ho. See --
url:http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/OED%20Online%20-%20quote,%20n_2.htm
He claimed that 'America' and the 'United States' are not synonyms.
ho ho ho see --
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/OED%20Online%20-%20America,%20n.htm
He claimed that 'none' of the terrorists in the WTC attack knew they were
about to commit suicide. One wonders 'how they knew, if they did not know?'
He confused arithmetic with algebra.
He claimed that mathematics is not a language.
He claimed he would 'gamble' on the lives of potential innocent victims of
murder.
And he believes that calling another a 'fuckwit' represents 'articulate
abolition'?
I could go on and on and on... but you should get the idea by now.
> [1] url:http://www.cnrs.fr/index.html
>
PV
> --
>Ayatollah desi |Superlunary and Most Exalted
> |Spiritual Leader of the Universal
> |Right to Life Church. (umm... get
> |away from me -- you filthy black
> |starving child in Africa) 'My church'
> |isn't for you.
> http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/obsessive_litany.html
Which insightfully pronounced of you --
"'Cancerous' is almost a compliment when one views most of
desi's comments -- other forms spring more easily to mind --
it is a parasitic diarrhea of the brain... it is crazy chick disease
transferred to our thinking process -- it is a swarm of latrine flies
setting on our ability to process information --- it is maggots
JackHac
In a usenet sense, old chap...
> Since I am a retentionist,
Anally, yes you are.
> there is the clear implication that you oppose retaining the DP
You just don't get it, do you... I've been discussing your behaviour and
personal comments in 'here', not directly with regards to whatever your
stance is on the death penalty... you're coming across as a fuckwit,
FuckWit... quelle surprise.
> and wish it abolished.
I wish for your usenet access to be abolished, if anything.
<SNIP>
>> You still, however, haven't answered my initial question... who is
>> it that generates the 'Dr Dolly Coughlan' posts?
> I have no idea...
Yeah... *sure* you don't.
LOL
What a FuckWit.
--
JackH
Dr. Dolly Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: More on Jigsaw's 'Experience' ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 21:25:34 +0000
>
>le Mon, 20 Jan 2003 05:29:52 GMT, dans l'article
><kPLW9.19254$o8.4...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor
><abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> You still, however, haven't answered my initial question... who is it that
>>> generates the 'Dr Dolly Coughlan' posts?
>
>> I have no idea...
>
>ROTFLMAO !!!
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |Yamaha YZF-R1
>desmond @ zeouane.org |'Ze Ouane!'
>http: // www . zeouane . org
>http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/obsessive_litany.html
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Poor Desi, drunk again! The Dr. Dolly Coughlan archive exists because Desmond
Coughlan lacks conviction in his words. He won't allow his posts to be archived
in Google. Please feel free to use it to your advantage.
Dr. Dolly Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: More on Jigsaw's 'Experience' ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:01:23 +0000
>
>le Mon, 20 Jan 2003 21:52:55 -0000, dans l'article
><b0hr2o$n9q$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>, JackHac
><jackha...@spammapsyahoo.co.uk> a dit ...
>
>{ snip }
>
>>>> You still, however, haven't answered my initial question... who is
>>>> it that generates the 'Dr Dolly Coughlan' posts?
>
>>> I have no idea...
>
>> Yeah... *sure* you don't.
>>
>> LOL
>>
>> What a FuckWit.
>
>Lest FW or anyone else who reads these little exchanges between FW and
>JackHac be under the impression that is somehow Jack's 'sticking up' for a
>fellow biker and personal friend, I direct you to a sample of the
>discussions that took place on news:uk.rec.motorcycles between the latter
>and me, concerning the death penalty ...
>
>
>url:http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=jack%20des%20death%20penalty%20&
as_eq=clayes&safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_ugroup=uk.rec.motorcycles&lr=&as
_scoring=d&hl=en
>
>Indeed, JackHac and I are as diametrically opposed on the issue of capital
>punishment, as it's possible to come. That he is now tearing into FW with
>such obvious glee, can only explained by the fact that his other faults
>notwithstanding, Jack is not a fuckwit. And he suffers not, those who are.
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |Yamaha YZF-R1
>desmond @ zeouane.org |'Ze Ouane!'
>http: // www . zeouane . org
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A Planet Visitor
"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message news:jjrh0b....@lievre.voute.net...
> le Mon, 20 Jan 2003 21:52:55 -0000, dans l'article <b0hr2o$n9q$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>, JackHac
<jackha...@spammapsyahoo.co.uk> a dit ...
>
> { snip }
>
> >>> it that generates the 'Dr Dolly Coughlan' posts?
>
> >> I have no idea...
>
> > Yeah... *sure* you don't.
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > What a FuckWit.
>
> JackHac be under the impression that is somehow Jack's 'sticking up' for a
> fellow biker and personal friend, I direct you to a sample of the
> discussions that took place on news:uk.rec.motorcycles between the latter
> and me, concerning the death penalty ...
>
>
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=jack%20des%20death%20penalty%20&as_eq=clayes&safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_ugrou
p=uk.rec.motorcycles&lr=&as_scoring=d&hl=en
>
> Indeed, JackHac and I are as diametrically opposed on the issue of capital
> punishment, as it's possible to come. That he is now tearing into FW with
> such obvious glee, can only explained by the fact that his other faults
> notwithstanding, Jack is not a fuckwit. And he suffers not, those who are.
>
and your buddy dirtbag is trying to get his 'Michelin girl' repaired,
it must be lonely.
PV
> --
> Ayatollah desi |Superlunary and Most Exalted
> |Spiritual Leader of the Universal
> |Right to Life Church. (umm... get
> |away from me -- you filthy black
> |starving child in Africa) 'My church'
> |isn't for you.
> http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/obsessive_litany.html
Am I obsessed with fighting 'evil'? Damn... I'm 'Superman' when
it comes to fighting desi's 'forces of evil.' References to a post which
insightfully pronounced of desi --
"'Cancerous' is almost a compliment when one views most of
desi's comments -- other forms spring more easily to mind --
it is a parasitic diarrhea of the brain... it is crazy chick disease
transferred to our thinking process -- it is a swarm of latrine flies
settling on our ability to process information --- it is maggots
A Planet Visitor
"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message news:egph0b....@lievre.voute.net...
> le Mon, 20 Jan 2003 05:29:52 GMT, dans l'article <kPLW9.19254$o8.4...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor
<abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
>
> { snip }
>
> >> generates the 'Dr Dolly Coughlan' posts?
>
> > I have no idea...
>
>
Then perhaps he should have asked you.
JackHac
I've met Des... I might not agree with some of his politics, but as a person
and a friend, he's a decent sort.
Who knows, I might even think the same of you if we ever met, but given your
abrasive and obnoxious nature in here, I somehow doubt that - whereas Des
will argue a point to the point of distraction, you can *see* his point,
whereas you apparently have none... unless you count trolling and harassment
of one particular person as a 'purpose', of course...
> Now that many have killfiled you,
If he bothers you that much, why don't you do the same?
Like I said, you're obviously unhinged and obsessed...
--
JackH
A Planet Visitor
"JackHac" <jackha...@spammapsyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:b0jr1k$2mi$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
is absurd to claim that disagreement, even in the most abrasive
and obsessive form demands the 'solution' of a killfile. desi is 'evil'
in my mind... his portrayal of retentionists as 'sparrow' playthings
of 'cat' abolitionists... persuming it is okay to torture and kill them
as the cat tortures and kills the sparrow, clearly demonstrates who
is unhinged. I would never consider saying the same to retentionists
about ALL abolitionists... of whom I have said over and over that
many worthy ideas spring from the thoughts of reasonable abolitionists,
but I simply feel PERSONALLY that those thoughts cannot overwhelm
the idea that total acceptance of those thoughts presumes we can
execute NO murderer. I certainly will not hide my head in the sand
from desi's evil. It would offend my own sensibilities to my species,
were I to accept such a 'solution.'
> Like I said, you're obviously unhinged and obsessed...
>
I fully admit it!!! It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it, since
que tacet consentit, is often presumed if one does not point out
such evil. Unfortunately, God only gave me so many hours... while
another force provided desi so much evil. Thus - a great deal of his
evil still slips through. Perhaps I will begin to assemble again my
manifesto, which lists the hundreds of evil comments made by desi...
from insults provided to a Mother having had her son just murdered -
to his prayer for escaped murderers - to his expressed willingness
to 'gamble' the lives of innocent future victims - to his *giggle* about 9-11.
Do not expect me to accept 'your' word, regarding 'your' appraisal
of 'desi's true character.' I base my evaluations on what _I_ see
from him here. It doesn't matter if you claim he is the kindest,
most gentle, most considerate, most understanding person on the
planet in 'real life.' This is the ONLY 'life' there is in respect to AADP.
The words we present here. The essential things we believe
of value in life... dignity -- integrity -- honesty -- accountability... I find
them nowhere in desi's comments Totally absent, from the persona
desi's presents here. In sum, to me, desi has proven himself
HERE to be a liar, a racist, a bigot, an ignoramus, and an evil little
man willing to distort any fact, with maggots infesting his presumed
'intellect,' and some unhealthy sexual appitites to go along with it.
And I can justify that appraisal any time you wish, providing HIS
words which caused me to make such an appraisal.
But that doesn't say a word about abolitionists... only about desi,
himself. Since even abolitionists have pronounced him 'dead and
buried' to any rational argument regarding the DP. To me... desi
is to abolition what Chernobyl was to the cause of 'safe nuclear power.'
What the Titanic was to 'safe ocean travel.' What the KKK is to
'civil rights.' What Nixon was to 'honest politics.' What Sharon is
to 'Peace in the Middle East.' What Arafat is to 'Peace in the Middle
East.' What Bin Laden is to 'Peaceful Islam.' And what Mt. Vesuvius
was to Pompeii. A huge cancerous eruption on the face of humanity,
accompanied by billowing, choking clouds of sulfuric hate. An
unrelenting 'nature-made' murderer. One of desi's 'friends.' He is
the hate-monger to what can be a very 'moral' argument... abolition... made
'impure' by his very presence here. I would be disgusted by him even
MORE... if I were an abolitionist.
PV
> --
> JackH
>
>
>
JackHac
It doesn't bother me... you're the one who looks the obsessive eejit, not I,
so feel free to carry on advertising this fact.
> I might ask the same of you, in respect to me.. but I would not.
> It is absurd to claim that disagreement, even in the most abrasive
> and obsessive form demands the 'solution' of a killfile.
No it isn't... at least not to those who aren't obsessed with hounding
someone via the internet (and other assorted means, in certain cases).
It's obvious you're very obsessed with Des himself, rather than his, (whan
can admittedly be at times), 'challenging' points of view...
> desi is 'evil' in my mind...
By all means disagree with his politics if you feel must, but if you expect
people to take you seriously, cut out the vitriol, and concentrate on
debating the DP issues, as from where I'm standing, you're arguing more
about him himself on a personal level, rather than his politics.
Not big, not clever, and given the extent of the other rubbish you've posted
in this message, (and which I've snipped to save you from further
embarrassment), certainly not the outpourings of someone of 'healthy' mind.
--
JackH
St.George
"JIGSAW1695" <jigsa...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030117085625...@mb-ce.aol.com...
Jiggy, seeing as you put so much store in the jury always being right,
please tell us why you keep on whingeing and posting articles about the
conviction of Tony Martin?
JIGSAW1695
Date: 1/23/2003 7:51 PM Eastern Standard Time
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A Planet Visitor
"JackHac" <jackha...@spammapsyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:b0kq5r$grm$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk...
the two here. I know nothing about him except what the 'politics'
of his agenda that he offers here. I find it an evil agenda.
> Not big, not clever, and given the extent of the other rubbish you've posted
> in this message, (and which I've snipped to save you from further
> embarrassment), certainly not the outpourings of someone of 'healthy' mind.
>
LOL... you find asking another poster for a 'blow-job from his 15-year-old
niece is a thought from a 'healthy' mind? Or telling a mother who had
just had her son murdered, posting here trying to find some understanding
to that tragedy, that she was 'perverse'? Or posting links to dead and
decaying bodies? Or claiming that abolitionists have a responsibility to
torture and kill retentionists, given to them by God as playthings, as
God gives the sparrow to the domestic cat, to torture and then kill?
I can provide his words to each of those posts. Whether you know him
'in person' or not, is immaterial, since I do not know YOU as well. desi
comes across here, TO ME, as one sick fuck. And whether you realize
it or not, the vitriol from him toward me, is far greater than that I provide
to him. Since he just becomes foul-mouth, ugly and lying. Going so
far as to in seven separate posts... directly called me a pedophile. While I
simply call him what he is, and post his words to show how I find him
to be what he is.
PV
> --
> JackH
>
>
>
JackHac
Oh come on... you know *nothing* about him, other than what he has said in
here, and You cannot separate
> the two here. I know nothing about him except what the 'politics'
> of his agenda that he offers here. I find it an evil agenda.
>
>> Not big, not clever, and given the extent of the other rubbish
>> you've posted in this message, (and which I've snipped to save you
>> from further embarrassment), certainly not the outpourings of
>> someone of 'healthy' mind.
>>
> LOL... you find asking another poster for a 'blow-job from his
> 15-year-old niece is a thought from a 'healthy' mind?
Your proof being?
--
JackH
JackHac
> le Fri, 24 Jan 2003 20:56:59 -0000, dans l'article
> <b0s99o$tsv$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, JackHac
>>> LOL... you find asking another poster for a 'blow-job from his
>>> 15-year-old niece is a thought from a 'healthy' mind?
>> Your proof being?
> FuckWit has just painted himself into a corner. I can't _wait_ to
> see how he's going to get out of this one ... LOL ...
Good, good...
Anyway, you slept in my daughters bed when you stayed here, didn't you...
--
JackH
Dr. Dolly Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: More on Jigsaw's 'Experience' ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 20:56:57 +0000
>
>le Fri, 24 Jan 2003 20:56:59 -0000, dans l'article
><b0s99o$tsv$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, JackHac
><jackha...@spammapsyahoo.co.uk> a dit ...
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> LOL... you find asking another poster for a 'blow-job from his
>>> 15-year-old niece is a thought from a 'healthy' mind?
>
>> Your proof being?
>
>FuckWit has just painted himself into a corner. I can't _wait_ to see how
>he's going to get out of this one ... LOL ...
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |Yamaha YZF-R1
>desmond @ zeouane.org |'Ze Ouane!'
>http: // www . zeouane . org
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Poor Desi, yet another drunken lie! The Dr. Dolly Coughlan archive exists
Dr. Dolly Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: More on Jigsaw's 'Experience' ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:42:14 +0000
>
>le Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:22:46 -0000, dans l'article
><b0saq2$d1u$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, JackHac
><jackha...@spammapsyahoo.co.uk> a dit ...
>
>>>>> LOL... you find asking another poster for a 'blow-job from his
>>>>> 15-year-old niece is a thought from a 'healthy' mind?
>
>>>> Your proof being?
>
>>> FuckWit has just painted himself into a corner. I can't _wait_ to
>>> see how he's going to get out of this one ... LOL ...
>
>> Good, good...
>>
>> Anyway, you slept in my daughters bed when you stayed here, didn't you...
>
>LOL ...
>
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: More on Jigsaw's 'Experience' ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 20:00:39 +0000
>
>le Tue, 21 Jan 2003 06:46:50 GMT, dans l'article
><u16X9.113981$Sa3.2...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor
><abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
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>{ snip }
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>> Looking for a 'friend' here desi? Now that many have killfiled you,
>> and your buddy dirtbag is trying to get his 'Michelin girl' repaired,
>> it must be lonely.
>
>This is now what passes for debate in FuckWitland. Sad, isn't it ? 'many
>have killfiled' ..? LMAO !! From what I recall, the only poster who
>matters (i.e. the only abolitionist) who has killfiled me, is John. Or
>does 'Tiny Timmy' matter to you ..? ROTFLMAO !
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: More on Jigsaw's 'Experience' ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 20:24:31 +0000
>
>le Tue, 21 Jan 2003 22:39:56 GMT, dans l'article
><0%jX9.27665$o8.5...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor
><abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> If he bothers you that much, why don't you do the same?
>
>> I might ask the same of you, in respect to me.. but I would not. It
>> is absurd to claim that disagreement, even in the most abrasive
>> and obsessive form demands the 'solution' of a killfile. desi is 'evil'
>> in my mind... his portrayal of retentionists as 'sparrow' playthings
>> of 'cat' abolitionists... persuming it is okay to torture and kill them
>> as the cat tortures and kills the sparrow, clearly demonstrates who
>> is unhinged.
>
>What is unhinged, is lying about the words of another. Why _do_ you make
>this so easy ?
>
>My exact words were ...
>
> 'I engage in 'abuse' of deathies as a matter of course. That's what
> they're there for. `echo $DEITY` gave them to us, much as She gave
> sparrows to the domestic cat. They're our playthings. They have no
> relevance in the real world, except to remind us of the dark side to
> human nature, that can exist in all of us. They're like child rapists.
> Nazis. Torturers of small animals.' [1]
>
>Nowhere will you see the word 'torture' [2] or 'kill' in there. You could
>quite honestly have claimed to have extrapolated (if you knew what it
>meant), and that you _believed_ that that was what I meant. It would have
>been very difficult to refute such an interpretation. But no. FW, in his
>desire to commit 'hari-kiri' (sic [3]), has to accuse me of saying
>something that I quite patently did not, thus making it a trifling matter
>to prove him a liar.
>
>> I would never consider saying the same to retentionists
>> about ALL abolitionists...
>
>People would just laugh at you, if you did. Oops, we laugh at you, anyway.
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> Like I said, you're obviously unhinged and obsessed...
>
>> I've never said I wasn't obsessed with pointing out desi's evil nature.
>
>You in fact did try to claim that you weren't obsessed. That would have
>been around the middle of last year. Let me check TOATM [4] ... ah, yes,
>here we are. Your expression was 'little puppet'. Let's see if 'goggle'
>(sic) has a reference for that ... yep ...
>
>
>url:http://groups.google.com/groups?q=desi+puppet+author:Planet+author:Vi
sitor&hl=fr&lr=&ie=UTF-8&start=10&sa=N
>
>Of course, you sort of let that one die a natural death when practically
>the entire newsgroup, deathies, retentionist and abolitionists alike,
>pointed out to you that you were being trolled left, right, and centre, and
>that in fact, the puppet was you. Perhaps now would be a good time to
>consider the percentages of who is trolling whom ...
>
> des...@lievre.voute.net % perl/bin/percentages.pl [5]
>
> The date is ... Fri Jan 24 20:18:39 GMT 2003
>
> Total posts made to AADP since 05 November 2002 ... 1634
>
> Number of posts in response to FuckWit ... 336
>
> Percentage of my posts directed at Fuckwit ... 20.56%
>
> There you have it ...
>
>At the same time, 'goggle' (sic) tells us that you've made 1,380 posts
>since 5 November 2002, of which 1,299 have been in response to me. In
>other words, 94%.
>
>Now, remind us again of who's obsessed, and who is the puppet ? LMAO !!
>
>{ snip remainder of borderline lunacy }
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>[1] Message-Id: <slrnargv5q.1m0.p...@lievre.voute.net>
>[2] other than mentioning the scientifically demonstrated fact that
> deathies (in 98% of cases) tortured the family pet, as children
>[3] LOL !!
>[4] The Only Archive That Matters
>[5] url:http://www.zeouane.org/perl/percentages.pl
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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message news:vd7s0b...@lievre.voute.net...
> le Tue, 21 Jan 2003 22:39:56 GMT, dans l'article <0%jX9.27665$o8.5...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor
<abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
>
> { snip }
>
>
> > I might ask the same of you, in respect to me.. but I would not. It
> > is absurd to claim that disagreement, even in the most abrasive
> > and obsessive form demands the 'solution' of a killfile. desi is 'evil'
> > in my mind... his portrayal of retentionists as 'sparrow' playthings
> > of 'cat' abolitionists... persuming it is okay to torture and kill them
> > as the cat tortures and kills the sparrow, clearly demonstrates who
> > is unhinged.
>
> this so easy ?
>
I don't need to do anything but point out that your words do just that.
> My exact words were ...
>
> 'I engage in 'abuse' of deathies as a matter of course. That's what
> they're there for. `echo $DEITY` gave them to us, much as She gave
> sparrows to the domestic cat. They're our playthings. They have no
> relevance in the real world, except to remind us of the dark side to
> human nature, that can exist in all of us. They're like child rapists.
> Nazis. Torturers of small animals.' [1]
Exceptional, desi... you must be proud of yourself claiming that
God has provided retentionists as 'playthings,' to torture and kill, as
the domestic cat tortures and kills the sparrow.
> Nowhere will you see the word 'torture' [2] or 'kill' in there.
Ummm...I know this is difficult for someone with your 'bubble-boy' intellect...
but follow along, desi --- it's obvious that YOU are the one fascinated
by the thought of a cat torturing and killing a sparrow, thus there is a
certain degree of evidence that YOU exhibit the behavior you intend to
accuse retentionists of having. After all, YOU DID post your comment
without any form of prompting. No one mentioned 'cat's or 'sparrows.'
Quite similar to your racist comments directed to someone who praised
a dead civil rights leader.
It is monstrous for you to accuse others of demonstrating the behavior
that you yourself demonstrate -- at the very moment of accusing them of
such behavior. You accuse others as 'torturers of small animals,' but at
the SAME MOMENT -- without even a pause to sip from that bottle you
keep in that brown paper bag next to your computer -- suggest that other
abolitionists BECOME the same as those you accuse. Because you
tell them that God has GIVEN the retentionist to them, as 'playthings' --
to torture and kill as the domestic cat tortures and kills his sparrow
'plaything.' It is the same as the racist thing you demonstrate. Calling
another a racist, as a defense against your own proven racism. And anyone
can see through that. Despite all your present whining. Be a man..
understand your own feelings that DROVE you to make such a sickening
suggestion to abolitionists.
Anyone who believes that a cat who toys with a sparrow as a 'plaything,'
does not torture and then kill such a bird has never observed such an act.
An act which causes revulsion in most humane humans, but seems to
draw you hypnotically to suggesting it. Through your again very vivid
description, it would indicate that you seem to find it would be a 'treat
worth watching.' And entreat OTHER abolitionists to torture and kill the
retentionist. I find that suggests you were perhaps mesmerized by the
torture of small animals as a child. Your fascination with the 'dead and
decayed' also certainly lends some credence to an examination of your
psychological make-up. The comparison I have made of your comment
regarding cat-sparrow-plaything, doesn't need to include anything more
than the fact that YOU are making the COMPARISON. I am simply
reporting what you are suggesting WITH 'your comparison' of a cat/abolitionist
torturing and killing a sparrow/retentionist. After all, it was YOU who asked
the abolitionist to make such a comparison. The help you need in this
area, to understand your own subconscious connections, and the
necessary therapy to modify that subconscious behavior is more than I
can provide here. It requires a personal connection with a therapist
trained in aberrant behavior, and application of some of the more recent
advances in modifying such aberrant behavior.
> You could
> quite honestly have claimed to have extrapolated (if you knew what it
> meant),
You mean like when I explained 'axiom' to you?
> and that you _believed_ that that was what I meant. It would have
> been very difficult to refute such an interpretation. But no. FW, in his
> desire to commit 'hari-kiri' (sic [3]), has to accuse me of saying
> something that I quite patently did not, thus making it a trifling matter
> to prove him a liar.
>
Ah, yes... the old stamp of 'LOSER' comes crashing down on desi's
forehead, as he uses his (sic) again, after it was explained that it
was a demonstration of his brain cells committing suicide in his
intellectual disintegration because of an apoptosis catastrophe of
the first magnitude within his cerebral cortex. See
http://info.med.yale.edu/chldstdy/plomdevelop/development/august.html
What an imbecile.
> > I would never consider saying the same to retentionists
> > about ALL abolitionists...
>
> People would just laugh at you, if you did. Oops, we laugh at you, anyway.
>
I can imagine there are some reasonable abolitionists who are hanging
there head in pity and weeping for your comments which suggests they
should stalk, torture and kill retentionists, as the domestic cat stalks,
tortures and kills the sparrow.
> { snip }
>
> >> Like I said, you're obviously unhinged and obsessed...
>
> > I've never said I wasn't obsessed with pointing out desi's evil nature.
>
> You in fact did try to claim that you weren't obsessed. That would have
> been around the middle of last year.
ROTFLMAO... "LOSER".... "LOSER".... "LOSER.... Last year I wasn't
obsessed with you desi. Your TRUE evil had not yet penetrated my
observation. You simply struck me as a crazy loon, only to laughed
at and ridiculed. I no longer find ridicule heaped on you to be sufficient
to cover up your evil. It requires a greater determination. An obsession
to insure the smell of that evil is recognized... obsessively. I have
BECOME obsessed with you. I would be less than 'moral' to not
be obsessed with recognizing an evil so intense.
<some other animal dropping comments from desi, claiming he is the ONLY
THING that matters in AADP clipped>
A Planet Visitor
"JackHac" <jackha...@spammapsyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:b0s99o$tsv$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
Of course I can separate them... since all I see is the face he offers
here. In fact, no separation is possible, seeing only one side as it
is. And it is unreasonable to expect me to accept the words of
others. Others may say -- "Oh... it's just that fool desi.." I don't have
that same luxury, since I only see 'that fool desi.' What he needs to
do is present the same face here, that you presume he presents in
person. If you find, after looking at his posting history, that he does
not, then obviously all I see of him is his face here. And a most
disgusting face it is. IMHO.
> >
> >> Not big, not clever, and given the extent of the other rubbish
> >> you've posted in this message, (and which I've snipped to save you
> >> from further embarrassment), certainly not the outpourings of
> >> someone of 'healthy' mind.
> >>
> > LOL... you find asking another poster for a 'blow-job from his
> > 15-year-old niece is a thought from a 'healthy' mind?
>
> Your proof being?
>
He once posted to jigsaw, and quoting him said "send that 16-year-old niece of yours
around to give me a blowjob whenever I want one." See
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=diablo-F5D718.22561113012002%40newsroom.utas.edu.au&oe=UTF-8
He has accused me of being a pedophile on SEVEN separate occasions
in different posts --
1) "It might have flown right over your pointy little redneck head as said
head was bobbing up and down over Dwight-the-Altar-Boy-From-Tampa's crotch" See
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=diablo-7F7BB2.00235902032002%40newsroom.utas.edu.au&oe=UTF-8
2) Called me an "altar-boy shagging Bible-basher" See
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=L7Po8.12823%24K52.2085263%40typhoon.tampabay.rr.com&oe=UTF-8
3) Called me an "altar-boy shagging prick" See
url: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=DUTo8.16901%24K52.2590863%40typhoon.tampabay.rr.com&oe=UTF-8
4) Called me "a bigoted old altar-boy-shagger" See
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=0Dbg8.11590%24j93.3613806%40typhoon.tampabay.rr.com&oe=UTF-8
5) Called me "you altar-boy-molesting dipshit." See
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=FlVf8.13270%24TV4.1933557%40typhoon.tampabay.rr.com&oe=UTF-8
6) Referred to me "Dwight the altar-boy from Wisconsin (or was he from
Tampa ? Can't remember. So many young boys, so little time, eh, Jed ?) "
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=5qzg8.20855%24j93.5666102%40typhoon.tampabay.rr.com&oe=UTF-8
7) Said to me "Never mind, FuckWit ... you still have kiddie porn to look forward to.
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=OvuV9.128771%24j8.3431971%40twister.tampabay.rr.com&oe=UTF-8
PV
> --
> JackH
>
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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message news:pa9s0b...@lievre.voute.net...
> le Fri, 24 Jan 2003 20:56:59 -0000, dans l'article <b0s99o$tsv$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, JackHac
> >> 15-year-old niece is a thought from a 'healthy' mind?
>
> > Your proof being?
>
> he's going to get out of this one ... LOL ...
>
time. In fact, it was a typo... but perhaps a subconscious one, because
of the unsavory nature I see within your post. I certainly know you
mentioned 16, rather than 15, and have done some rather frightening
gyrations in the past to argue that there exists such a vast gap between
those two ages. While it is really only a narrow 'legal' gap. Nonetheless,
I see it as unhealthy for a man in his mid-thirties to lust after EITHER
15 OR 16 year-old young girls. There may be a 'legal' difference to you,
but the 'moral' gap hardly exists. It's a sad, pathetic sight to watch
someone scramble to defend his 'morality' by presuming that it's okay
if its legal, yet presume there is nothing 'moral' about the DP, even
when ITS legal. It's hypocrisy, desi.. The worst kind.
PV
> --
>
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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message news:u3jv0b...@lievre.voute.net...
> le Sun, 26 Jan 2003 02:55:12 GMT, dans l'article <k6IY9.131108$Sa3.3...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor
<abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
>
> { snip long whinge that yet another new poster has rapidly come to the
> conclusion that FuckWit is ... well, is a fuckwit }
>
> > He has accused me of being a pedophile on SEVEN separate occasions
> > in different posts --
>
>
Obviously you've never heard of sanity. Since you've never displayed
any. And in any case, the man ASKED for proof. I just put some
icing on the cake of your evil. Perhaps you can provide even one
sentence in my entire posting history that would presume to show
I was a pedophile. Since I can show at least 19 sentences in YOUR
posting history that PROVES you are a racist.
JackHac
>
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=diablo-F5D718.22561113012002%40news
room.utas.edu.au&oe=UTF-8
Oh dear... you *really* have no sense of irony, do you.
*Look* at the context and overtone of that post, you poor soft cunt, before
engaging mouth further.
Oh, and 15 does not equal 16, funnily enough, and whatever the moral aspects
of any such act, should it have taken place, 16 is *legal* here in the UK.
That post to me reads as a bit 'tongue in cheek'... maybe if you removed
'head from arse', you'd comprehend and recognise that.
Now... show me where Des has actually propositioned any under age girls, and
you *may* have a point... not promising anything mind, as you're obviously
in possession of a fine set of out of control issues yourself, Mr Obsessive.
--
JackH
Dr. Dolly Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: More on Jigsaw's 'Experience' ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 03:02:21 +0000
>
>le Sun, 26 Jan 2003 02:55:12 GMT, dans l'article
><k6IY9.131108$Sa3.3...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor
><abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
>
>{ snip long whinge that yet another new poster has rapidly come to the
> conclusion that FuckWit is ... well, is a fuckwit }
>
>> He has accused me of being a pedophile on SEVEN separate occasions
>> in different posts --
>
>'Obviously you've never heard of the pejorative' ... LOL !!
>
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>desmond @ zeouane.org |'Ze Ouane!'
>http: // www . zeouane . org
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: More on Jigsaw's 'Experience' ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 23:57:20 +0000
>
>le Sun, 26 Jan 2003 02:55:12 GMT, dans l'article
><k6IY9.131109$Sa3.3...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor
><abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
>
>>> >> LOL... you find asking another poster for a 'blow-job from his
>>> >> 15-year-old niece is a thought from a 'healthy' mind?
>
>>> > Your proof being?
>
>>> FuckWit has just painted himself into a corner. I can't _wait_ to see how
>>> he's going to get out of this one ... LOL ...
>
>> You've obviously never heard of the pejorative. Yet you use it all the
>> time. In fact, it was a typo... but perhaps a subconscious one, because
>> of the unsavory nature I see within your post. I certainly know you
>> mentioned 16, rather than 15, and have done some rather frightening
>> gyrations in the past to argue that there exists such a vast gap between
>> those two ages. While it is really only a narrow 'legal' gap.
>Nonetheless,
>> I see it as unhealthy for a man in his mid-thirties to lust after EITHER
>> 15 OR 16 year-old young girls. There may be a 'legal' difference to you,
>> but the 'moral' gap hardly exists. It's a sad, pathetic sight to watch
>> someone scramble to defend his 'morality' by presuming that it's okay
>> if its legal, yet presume there is nothing 'moral' about the DP, even
>> when ITS legal. It's hypocrisy, desi.. The worst kind.
>
>You will recall when I first mentioned it. You, not being very good at
>chess, barged in and captured a pawn with your Queen. Feeling mighty
>chuffed with yourself, you didn't see that my Knight was lying in wait.
>
>Think about it, FuckWit.
>
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>desmond @ zeouane.org |'Ze Ouane!'
>http: // www . zeouane . org
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
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> le Sun, 26 Jan 2003 06:47:50 GMT, dans l'article
> <qwLY9.131617$Sa3.3...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor
> <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
>
>>> { snip long whinge that yet another new poster has rapidly come to
>>> the conclusion that FuckWit is ... well, is a fuckwit }
>
>>>> He has accused me of being a pedophile on SEVEN separate occasions
>>>> in different posts --
>
>>> 'Obviously you've never heard of the pejorative' ... LOL !!
>
>> Obviously you've never heard of sanity. Since you've never displayed
>> any. And in any case, the man ASKED for proof. I just put some
>> icing on the cake of your evil. Perhaps you can provide even one
>> sentence in my entire posting history that would presume to show
>> I was a pedophile. Since I can show at least 19 sentences in YOUR
>> posting history that PROVES you are a racist.
> 'It is not necessary to post [peodophile statements] in order to be
> considered a [peodophile]'
> (Copyright FuckWit, 2002)
Any idea where this jerk originates from?
He comes across as decidedly over this way, to me...
--
JackH
JackHac
> le Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:05:38 -0000, dans l'article
> <b13sch$j6m$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, JackHac
>>> considered a [peodophile]'
>>> (Copyright FuckWit, 2002)
>> Any idea where this jerk originates from?
>> He comes across as decidedly over this way, to me...
> He claims to be American, but is quite evidently _not_ a native
> English speaker. Or at least, Jesus, I _hope_ he's not ...
He is illiterate (and once can safely assume illegitimate), for sure...
--
JackH
A Planet Visitor
"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message news:089eg-...@lievre.voute.net...
> le Sun, 26 Jan 2003 02:55:12 GMT, dans l'article <k6IY9.131109$Sa3.3...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor
<abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
>
> >> >> LOL... you find asking another poster for a 'blow-job from his
> >> >> 15-year-old niece is a thought from a 'healthy' mind?
>
> >> > Your proof being?
>
> >> FuckWit has just painted himself into a corner. I can't _wait_ to see how
> >> he's going to get out of this one ... LOL ...
>
> > You've obviously never heard of the pejorative. Yet you use it all the
> > time. In fact, it was a typo... but perhaps a subconscious one, because
> > of the unsavory nature I see within your post. I certainly know you
> > mentioned 16, rather than 15, and have done some rather frightening
> > gyrations in the past to argue that there exists such a vast gap between
> > those two ages. While it is really only a narrow 'legal' gap. Nonetheless,
> > I see it as unhealthy for a man in his mid-thirties to lust after EITHER
> > 15 OR 16 year-old young girls. There may be a 'legal' difference to you,
> > but the 'moral' gap hardly exists. It's a sad, pathetic sight to watch
> > someone scramble to defend his 'morality' by presuming that it's okay
> > if its legal, yet presume there is nothing 'moral' about the DP, even
> > when ITS legal. It's hypocrisy, desi.. The worst kind.
>
> chess, barged in and captured a pawn with your Queen. Feeling mighty
> chuffed with yourself, you didn't see that my Knight was lying in wait.
>
> Think about it, FuckWit.
>
a novice, desi... an incompetent novice, in ANY intellectual pursuit. Unable
to even recognize the author of famous quotes, and mumbling incoherently
that you 'knew it all along,' when caught out. An incompetent who depends
on the most obscene presentation of your impotent 'game.' Follow along and
see how your impotent attempts to 'capture' my queen, with your pitiful pawns,
demonstrates the flaw in your contributions to this argument. See ==
url:http://www.angelfire.com/games3/AJs01Downloads/html_stuff/gcm_lev-mar_1g0.html
A Planet Visitor
"JackHac" <jackha...@spammapsyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:b13sch$j6m$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
to play with. We can again enjoy the image of 'two monkeys fucking a
football.'
PV
> --
> JackH
>
>
>
A Planet Visitor
"JackHac" <jackha...@spammapsyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:b13t7s$vu5$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
time, move your lips, since without you doing so, demonstrates you
are unable to provide an 'articulate' construction of a sentence in
English.
PV
> --
> JackH
>
>
>
JackHac
> "JackHac" <jackha...@spammapsyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> In the absence of dirtbag, it's refreshing that desi has now found
> someone to play with. We can again enjoy the image of 'two monkeys
> fucking a football.'
Better that, than to be fucking your own mother...
--
JackH
JackHac
A mere slip of the finger... which I shall now raise in your general
direction - I suspect you aren't that far from here, as it happens.
You miss a subtle difference, FuckWit... your spelling is consistently
bad... you spell the same words wrong in exactly the same illegible way,
time after time.
Regardless, even if immaculately spelt, your posts would still consist of
the usual obsessive bile I've come to recognise as a symptom of your
sickness.
--
JackH
A Planet Visitor
"JackHac" <jackha...@spammapsyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:b140vp$ir5$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
Jack. Only demonstrates how futile they actually are.
PV
> --
> JackH
>
>
>
A Planet Visitor
"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message news:vgdgg-...@lievre.voute.net...
> le Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:29:27 GMT, dans l'article <bUeZ9.189076$j8.46...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor
<abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
>
> { snip }
>
> >> You will recall when I first mentioned it. You, not being very good at
> >> chess, barged in and captured a pawn with your Queen. Feeling mighty
> >> chuffed with yourself, you didn't see that my Knight was lying in wait.
> >>
> >> Think about it, FuckWit.
>
> > Actually, my play is comparable to Marshall in this particular game. You're
> > a novice, desi... an incompetent novice, in ANY intellectual pursuit. Unable
> > to even recognize the author of famous quotes, and mumbling incoherently
> > that you 'knew it all along,' when caught out. An incompetent who depends
> > on the most obscene presentation of your impotent 'game.' Follow along and
> > see how your impotent attempts to 'capture' my queen, with your pitiful pawns,
> > demonstrates the flaw in your contributions to this argument. See ==
> > url:http://www.angelfire.com/games3/AJs01Downloads/html_stuff/gcm_lev-mar_1g0.html
>
> and in fact the Marshall game is one of the first results (but not _the_
> first. That way, you can claim not to have found it in 'goggle' (sic)).
>
Obviously, I had only to do a search on 'Marshall v. Levitsky,' and then
look at the first few results to find the best demonstration of the game I
was seeking, which I found at -- "The Best Moves."
Going to there led me to --
http://www.geocities.com/lifemasteraj/best_moves.html
and scrolling down, one finds Frank Marshall's "Shower of Gold Pieces"
game. In fact, the game I'm sure you are referring to is there, although
you are using a notation which places black as the starting point of
counting notation, and a backward alphabet notation. Thus it is sometimes
referred to as 11-Na5, simply because the picture of the board has black
at the bottom. But the more correct notation, with white at the bottom, is
11-Na4. One usually counts UP from the white side. You
can find THIS game, with the same applet at --
http://www.angelfire.com/games3/AJs01Downloads/html_stuff/byrfis_1rpg0.html
And I believe the fact that you state ''but not _the_ first," demonstrates that
YOU probably used google, looked at that 'first' and mindlessly copied 11-Na5
(shame on you). Simply seeing it as 11-Na5, and number one, and hoped to
demonstrate your 'intellect,' without even having looked at the game itself.
Having simply found it mentioned as 11-Na5, here
http://www.geocities.com/lifemasteraj/best_moves.html
But if you follow the game, or look at other resources from the SAME
AUTHOR of that web site, who is a lifemaster, you will find his other references
to the move as 11-Na4. For example, a rather penetrating look at every move
by that same lifemaster (A.J. Goldsby), can be found here --
http://www.geocities.com/lifemasteraj/byrne-fisch_1.html
And you will find that he refers to it as --- 11...Na4!!!; (Maybe '!!!!')
Another case of you 'stepping on your dick,' I presume.
> In fact, I am but a novice at chess, having learned it around 25 years ago,
Indeed you are, if you are unfamiliar with the game that caused
coins to be showered on Marshall when his plan fell into place, as
it became aware of how far ahead he had decided to sacrifice his
queen to mate. It represented perhaps the greatest display of 'instant'
admiration every offered by the crowd observing that game. Fisher's
move took much more time to 'sink in' as to its beauty.
You're just so pitiful, desi. I really feel as if I'm spanking a wet, whelping,
whining child. And I can't help but feel some pity for you, even though
I realize it's what you deserve, need, and actually seem to ask for.
> but only playing a handful of games per year since then, so far from
> 'expert'. I can admit that, though; not sharing your now legendary
> insecurity at having left school at 15, and missed out on the education
> that was enjoyed by your peers, and that you seem to think is 'owed' to you
> by the world. That would probably explain your bitterness. I am playing
> it more these days, as a couple of friends of mine were given a very
> beautiful glass chess set for Christmas, but they don't know how to play.
> Or 'didn't', as I have now taught them the basics. As for your Marshall
> game, I would never have dared 21-Nxe6, but then that's why Marshall was
> a Master, and why I'm not.
>
No, that's why you're an imbecile. You were the one who first brought up
'chess,' and now you are 'crying again.' Study the game... and learn
something. Put it up in your chessboard and follow it, rather than how
the applet was put together. It hones the juices more effectively. But
you never have been able to separate the sublime from the ridiculous.
<pitiful whine clipped>
> Insofar as this particular discussion is concerned (to get back on-topic),
> you quite obviously didn't understand how easily I had trapped you, like a
> wasp in a honeypot. 'If it's legal, it's moral', were my words (IIRC).
LOL... You've also said -- "What is legal can be perfectly immoral.," in
your past comments... obviously you have no idea which way is up.
> Checkmate.
ho ho ho... St. George seminal axiom 6) again. When will you learn not
to allow your ass to override your mouth?
JackHac
> "JackHac" <jackha...@spammapsyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:b140vp$ir5$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> A Planet Visitor wrote:
>>> "JackHac" <jackha...@spammapsyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>
>>> In the absence of dirtbag, it's refreshing that desi has now found
>>> someone to play with. We can again enjoy the image of 'two monkeys
>>> fucking a football.'
>>
>> Better that, than to be fucking your own mother...
<SNIP>
> FUTILE...
I'm sure you're more familiar with that word than most around here, FuckWit.
--
JackH
Dr. Dolly Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: More on Jigsaw's 'Experience' ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:14:32 +0000
>
>le Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:05:38 -0000, dans l'article
><b13sch$j6m$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, JackHac
><jackha...@spammapsyahoo.co.uk> a dit ...
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> 'It is not necessary to post [peodophile statements] in order to be
>>> considered a [peodophile]'
>>> (Copyright FuckWit, 2002)
>
>> Any idea where this jerk originates from?
>>
>> He comes across as decidedly over this way, to me...
>
>He claims to be American, but is quite evidently _not_ a native English
>speaker. Or at least, Jesus, I _hope_ he's not ...
>
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>desmond @ zeouane.org |'Ze Ouane!'
>http: // www . zeouane . org
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: More on Jigsaw's 'Experience' ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 17:42:38 +0000
>
>le Sun, 26 Jan 2003 06:47:50 GMT, dans l'article
><qwLY9.131617$Sa3.3...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor
><abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
>
>>> { snip long whinge that yet another new poster has rapidly come to the
>>> conclusion that FuckWit is ... well, is a fuckwit }
>
>>> > He has accused me of being a pedophile on SEVEN separate occasions
>>> > in different posts --
>
>>> 'Obviously you've never heard of the pejorative' ... LOL !!
>
>> Obviously you've never heard of sanity. Since you've never displayed
>> any. And in any case, the man ASKED for proof. I just put some
>> icing on the cake of your evil. Perhaps you can provide even one
>> sentence in my entire posting history that would presume to show
>> I was a pedophile. Since I can show at least 19 sentences in YOUR
>> posting history that PROVES you are a racist.
>
>'It is not necessary to post [peodophile statements] in order to be
>considered a [peodophile]'
> (Copyright
FuckWit, 2002)
>
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>desmond @ zeouane.org |'Ze Ouane!'
>http: // www . zeouane . org
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: More on Jigsaw's 'Experience' ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:08:04 +0000
>
>le Sun, 26 Jan 2003 02:55:12 GMT, dans l'article
><k6IY9.131107$Sa3.3...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor
><abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> What is unhinged, is lying about the words of another. Why _do_ you make
>>> this so easy ?
>
>> Your words themselves represent evidence that you are unhinged, sport..
>> I don't need to do anything but point out that your words do just that.
>
>If my words did represent such a state, then you wouldn't need to
>fabricate and 'interpret' what I've written. That you do, has been
>recognised by about every single poster here who is capable of rational
>thought, and even a few deathies. Your long 'list' of things that I'm
>supposed to have said, only one or two of which I _did_ say, is proof of
>that.
>
>{ snip close to 150 obsessive lines, topped off with 'LOSER [sic] ... LOSER
> [sic] ... LOSER [sic] ...' LMAO !! Why not just stick to your other
> 'eloquent' arguments, FW, like 'cuckoo' [1] ..? }
>
>
>[1]
>url:http://groups.google.com/groups?ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=rC7o9.56678%2
4g73.1937553%40twister.tampabay.rr.com&lr=&hl=fr
>
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
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>Subject: Re: More on Jigsaw's 'Experience' ...
>Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:08:04 +0000
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:
>Subject: Re: More on Jigsaw's 'Experience' ...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 19:22:39 +0000
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>le Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:29:27 GMT, dans l'article
><bUeZ9.189076$j8.46...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor
><abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
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>>> You will recall when I first mentioned it. You, not being very good at
>>> chess, barged in and captured a pawn with your Queen. Feeling mighty
>>> chuffed with yourself, you didn't see that my Knight was lying in wait.
>>>
>>> Think about it, FuckWit.
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>> Actually, my play is comparable to Marshall in this particular game.
>You're
>> a novice, desi... an incompetent novice, in ANY intellectual pursuit.
>Unable
>> to even recognize the author of famous quotes, and mumbling incoherently
>> that you 'knew it all along,' when caught out. An incompetent who depends
>> on the most obscene presentation of your impotent 'game.' Follow along and
>> see how your impotent attempts to 'capture' my queen, with your pitiful
>pawns,
>> demonstrates the flaw in your contributions to this argument. See ==
>>
>url:http://www.angelfire.com/games3/AJs01Downloads/html_stuff/gcm_lev-mar
_1g0.html
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>Quite patently, you once more went to 'goggle' (sic), typed 'chess moves',
>and in fact the Marshall game is one of the first results (but not _the_
>first. That way, you can claim not to have found it in 'goggle' (sic)).
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>In fact, I am but a novice at chess, having learned it around 25 years ago,
>but only playing a handful of games per year since then, so far from
>'expert'. I can admit that, though; not sharing your now legendary
>insecurity at having left school at 15, and missed out on the education
>that was enjoyed by your peers, and that you seem to think is 'owed' to you
>by the world. That would probably explain your bitterness. I am playing
>it more these days, as a couple of friends of mine were given a very
>beautiful glass chess set for Christmas, but they don't know how to play.
>Or 'didn't', as I have now taught them the basics. As for your Marshall
>game, I would never have dared 21-Nxe6, but then that's why Marshall was
>a Master, and why I'm not.
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>Having said that, my 'favourite' move would have to be 11-Na5 in the game
>between Fischer and Byrne in 1956. You should be able to find it somewhere
>on the web. Quite a stunning move.
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>The URL that you found in 'goggle' (sic) is interesting, however, as I'd
>like to know how he put together that little applet to allow users to
>scroll through his game. For that reason alone, I've bookmarked it. I was
>surprised not to have seen a response from you to my chess conundrum of the
>other day ...
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>url:http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/chess_25.01.2003.jpg
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>Being news:alt.activism.death-penalty's foremost (and most conspicious)
>pseudo-intellectual, you should have jumped at that chance.
>
>Insofar as this particular discussion is concerned (to get back on-topic),
>you quite obviously didn't understand how easily I had trapped you, like a
>wasp in a honeypot. 'If it's legal, it's moral', were my words (IIRC). In
>typical FuckWit fashion, you missed the point as it flew over your head,
>and subsequently claimed that I was advocating sex with children. You
>thus exposed your own limitations in matters of intelligence and logic,
>plus you once more demonstrated to news:alt.activism.death-penalty that
>when it comes to lying about what others have said, you are in a class of
>your own.
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>Another FuckWit Double Whammy, one might call it. Or an own goal.
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>Checkmate.
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>desmond @ zeouane.org |'Ze Ouane!'
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>Subject: Re: More on Jigsaw's 'Experience' ...
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A Planet Visitor
"JackHac" <jackha...@spammapsyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:b1417q$qh6$1...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
> A Planet Visitor wrote:
> > "JackHac" <jackha...@spammapsyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:b13t7s$vu5$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
> >> Desmond Coughlan wrote:
> >>> le Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:05:38 -0000, dans l'article
> >>> <b13sch$j6m$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, JackHac
> >>> <jackha...@spammapsyahoo.co.uk> a dit ...
> >>>
> >>> { snip }
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> >>>>> 'It is not necessary to post [peodophile statements] in order to
> >>>>> be considered a [peodophile]'
> >>>>> (Copyright FuckWit, 2002)
> >>
> >>>> Any idea where this jerk originates from?
> >>
> >>>> He comes across as decidedly over this way, to me...
> >>
> >>> He claims to be American, but is quite evidently _not_ a native
> >>> English speaker. Or at least, Jesus, I _hope_ he's not ...
> >>
> >> He is illiterate (and once can safely assume illegitimate), for
> >> sure...
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> > ROTFLMAO... Read your words back to yourself, dimwit. And this
> > time, move your lips, since without you doing so, demonstrates you
> > are unable to provide an 'articulate' construction of a sentence in
> > English.
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> A mere slip of the finger... which I shall now raise in your general
> direction - I suspect you aren't that far from here, as it happens.
>
Umm.... follow along now... you USE the 'word' 'illiterate,' and then
you IMMEDIATELY follow by proving you are one. ho ho ho. Had
you not presumed to 'impress' me by your use of the word 'illiterate,'
which is obviously not that well understood by you, your faux pas
would have meant nothing. It was your attack on me, followed
IMMEDIATELY by an example of your own illiteracy, which prompted
my remark. It's called 'making a remark,' followed immediately by
'stepping on your dick.' Ask desi to explain it to you... he does it
all the time.
> You miss a subtle difference, FuckWit... your spelling is consistently
> bad... you spell the same words wrong in exactly the same illegible way,
> time after time.
>
> Regardless, even if immaculately spelt, your posts would still consist of
> the usual obsessive bile I've come to recognise as a symptom of your
> sickness.
>
Thank you for that 'articulate' commentary. You may now return to
'fucking that football' with desi.
PV
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A Planet Visitor
"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message news:36ggg-...@lievre.voute.net...
> le Sun, 26 Jan 2003 02:55:12 GMT, dans l'article <k6IY9.131107$Sa3.3...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor
<abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
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> >> this so easy ?
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> > Your words themselves represent evidence that you are unhinged, sport..
> > I don't need to do anything but point out that your words do just that.
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> fabricate and 'interpret' what I've written.
I do not fabricate even one word of those I quote from you. I put them in
double quotes. Then I offer MY interpretation of them... which is my
right. But I do not INVENT words, and claim they are those words IN
your quotes. If you use the 'J' word, as you have used so often, it is not
necessary for me to find you have said 'I am a racist,' to bring an
understanding to the fact that you have INDICATED that you are a
racist. Given that you've proved to be a racist in MY EYES so often, I
find it hard to imagine how anyone could find you not to be one. Thus,
to me you have become a racist. Others can find you to be aware of
human rights, if they wish. I don't see how... since you lashed out at
a tribute to two civil rights leaders just a few days ago... but they may
do so if they wish.
Further, anyone who has ever seen a cat, corner, torture and kill a bird,
and then carry that limp dead bird body in its jowls, with the feathers
falling about, understands that when you claim God GIVES the retentionist
to the abolitionist as a plaything, JUST AS He gives the sparrow to the
cat, there is little left to the imagination. You are speaking of cornering,
torturing, and killing. Here is the abolitionist you would hope to create --
http://www.things.org/~muffy/pages/kitties/death.html
and
http://www.annefine.co.uk/books/killercat.shtml
Where is the sensitivity for the 'victim,' in ANY of your posting history,
desi? There is a certain connection of the 'bird' to the victim, and the
cat to the 'murderer' as well. And it demonstrates how you are attracted
to the 'murderer,' with little regard for his 'victim.'
> That you do, has been
> recognised by about every single poster here who is capable of rational
> thought, and even a few deathies. Your long 'list' of things that I'm
> supposed to have said, only one or two of which I _did_ say, is proof of
> that.
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> { snip close to 150 obsessive lines, topped off with 'LOSER [sic] ... LOSER
> [sic] ... LOSER [sic] ...' LMAO !! Why not just stick to your other
> 'eloquent' arguments, FW, like 'cuckoo' [1] ..? }
>
You mean 'snipped those words which demonstrate exactly what PV
means.' Someone who claims that everything is 'riddled with corruption'
and a judge KNOWS a person is innocent, but still finds her guilty,
but sees nothing wrong with stating such absurdities, is most certainly
cuckoo. The difference is he is 'cuckoo' in love with the Great White
Whale. While you are just cuckoo.
In "LOVE" with murderers.
PV
A Planet Visitor
"JackHac" <jackha...@spammapsyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:b14pru$8cu$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
when... will desi find a 'friend' that is even half-way literate?
PV
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