GOP Head of TX Death Panel Calls for More Secrecy
Sanders Kaufman
arson, an investigative report surfaced, proving that the executed man was
in fact innocent.
When the Texas Death Panel began an investigation into Gov. Perry's blunder,
he fired several members, and replaced them with people loyal to him,
personally.
Today, the new head of the Texas Death Panel has announced that he will
implement more secrecy in the future, to prevent such reports from being
released to taxpayers.
Although the law does not allow for such secrecy, he will petition Gov.
Perry's Attorney General to ignore the law, and allow him to keep his
findings secret from taxpayers.
The changes, he says, will take several months and will delay the Panel's
investigation into the execution of this innocent man.
In defense of his decision to kill the innocent man, Gov. Perry pointed out
that he had at some point in his life asked a girlfriend to get an abortion.
"He's a bad, bad man", Gov. Perry said.
Jigsaw1695
Long on rhetoric, short on fact.
You have to do better than this to get our attention.
Jigsaw
"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men (and women)
to do nothing."
Sanders Kaufman
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That's a good one - now say, "I am telling a lie".
Izzy Mandelbaum
> "Jigsaw1695" <Jigsaw1...@aol.com> wrote in message
Ok, you're telling a lie.
Jigsaw1695
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Jigsaw1695
> arson, an investigative report surfaced, proving that the executed man was
> in fact innocent.
> When the Texas Death Panel began an investigation into Gov. Perry's blunder,
> he fired several members, and replaced them with people loyal to him,
> personally.
Still no informatioon abount the execution of this "innocent man.
Give us something to look at Sanders?
By the way, under the m
An appeals court cannot order a man to be executed or even hear
evicence and then pass a verdict on a convicted persons guilt or
innocense,
You really dont know what you are talking about, so you.
Jigsaw
Earl Evleth
f03f67d3-85db-4db9...@d5g2000yqm.googlegroups.com,
"Jigsaw1695" <Jigsa...@aol.com> wrote:
> Still no informatioon abount the execution of this "innocent man.
Why are you still up in the middle of the night worrying about it?
Mike
>
> "Jigsaw1695" <Jigsaw1...@aol.com> wrote:
> > Still no informatioon abount the execution of this "innocent man.
>
> Why are you still up in the middle of the night worrying about it?
Y R U flatfoot?
Jigsaw1695
Oh yea, one other thing. The governor didnt fire anyone. Their terms
of appointmen of the Board members expired. They were not reappointed.
That hardly qualifies as "being fired".
Want to try again you simple buffoon.
Jigsaw
“all that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men (and women)
to do or say nothing."
hls
"Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote in message
news:D2FJm.8343$_b5....@newsfe22.iad...
> Several months ago, after Gov. Perry ordered the death of a man convicted
> of
> arson, an investigative report surfaced, proving that the executed man was
> in fact innocent.
In fact, it did not prove any such thing. It did open doubts about the
forensic
evidence that was presented at the trial.
But, if that original evidence had been refuted and more significant
evidence had
emerged, I dont know why one of the authoritative bodies, up to the US
Supreme
Court, did not issue a restraining order or stay of execution.
Dont get me wrong.. I am no fan of Rick Perry, and like his Republican
challenger
even less.
I hope that this guy was not innocent, in that he has already been executed.
We
know that some innocent people may be, or may have been, punished unjustly.
There is room for a lot of improvement in the whole judicial process.
Mr Q. Z. Diablo
Sorry to say it, Larry, but the evidence is overwhelming that Willingham
was innocent. There have been multiple investigations into the fire
since his execution and they have all pointed to flawed evidence being
presented at the trial.
From the Chicago Tribune:
"Over the past five years, the Willingham case has been reviewed by nine
of the nation's top fire scientists - first for the Tribune, then for
the Innocence Project, and now for the commission. All concluded that
the original investigators relied on outdated theories and folklore to
justify the determination of arson. The only other evidence of
significance against Willingham was twice recanted testimony by another
inmate who testified that Willingham had confessed to him. Jailhouse
snitches are viewed with skepticism in the justice system, so much so
that some jurisdictions have restrictions against their use."
--
The Professor: Ha! A Dolphin! Well I'll be buggered.
Satan: Never say that in Hell, Prof.
- Andy Hamilton, Old Harry's Game
Sanders Kaufman
> On Nov 8, 11:33�am, "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
> Still no informatioon abount the execution of this "innocent man.
> Give us something to look at Sanders?
[snip]
> You really dont know what you are talking about, so you.
That's very right-wing of you!
In the first paragraph, you demand that I explain the issue to you.
But then in the last paragraph, you insist that I don't know about the
issue.
Do you really think it's wise to ask people you don't trust to tell you
about things you don't understand?
Sanders Kaufman
> Oh yea, one other thing. The governor didnt fire anyone. Their terms
> of appointmen of the Board members expired. They were not reappointed.
> That hardly qualifies as "being fired".
That is not true.
That's just what the Governor told the press.
In TRUTH, their terms would have expired soon and they were already slotted
to be reappointed.
That plan was reversed when it became clear that the panel would find
against Perry.
Even the Texas Republicans are pissed off at the governor for doing this.
Like you, they defended him at first - saying that maybe this innocent thing
happened, or maybe that innocent thing happened.
But not anymore.
Sanders Kaufman
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> "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote in message
> In fact, it did not prove any such thing. It did open doubts about the
> forensic evidence that was presented at the trial.
That's what the anti-science evangelicals say - but that's just because your
faith won't allow you to accept the science.
In fact - the report went well beyond proving that the fire was not set by
this man.
Indeed - it went so far as to show that NO forensic expert could have
REASONABLY concluded that he had set the fire.
Alex DeLarge
Get a haircut, FREAK!
Alex DeLarge
Alex DeLarge
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
The Chief Instigator
Could you do Usenet the consideration of killing yourself, Jeff? I'm still
sorry you weren't in North Richland Hills while Paula Ollie could have used
you for target practice.
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Houston 5, San Antonio 2 (November 7)
NEXT GAME: Friday, November 13 at Lake Erie, 6:35
hls
"Mr Q. Z. Diablo" <dia...@notinnedmeat.freakishandunnatural.net> wrote in
message
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Perhaps it was. I will have to focus on it before having a firm opinion,
but the
evidence leads to proof only if the court rules that it is proof, or has
created
reasonable doubt. My opinion will mean nothing.
Although it is too late to help the accused, I think this whole scenario
should
be investigated seriously.
Alex DeLarge
> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:51:41 -0700, Alex DeLarge <kor...@milk.bar> wrote:
>> Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>>
>>
>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Get a haircut, FREAK!
>>
>> http://images.military.com/MemberImageUpload/d652/652282
>
> Could you do Usenet the consideration of killing yourself, Jeff? I'm still
> sorry you weren't in North Richland Hills while Paula Ollie could have used
> you for target practice.
>
* first posted 02/03/04 by "Hank Kimball (County Agent)"
http://tinyurl.com/yqrca
Here is Stalker Patrick begrudgingly giving me credit for his getting fired
from
Rice University and losing all those benefits. He was warned but as any
other
obsessive type he just doesn't know when to stop!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=szk1xr8ea25.fsf%40fnord.io.co...
(Archived locally as: PatrickGivesMEcredit)
Subject: Re: R. Scott "Doc Tavish" Bradbury In His Own Words
From: Patrick Humphrey <patr...@io.com>
Date: 13 Dec 2003 14:29:06 -0600
Message-ID: <szk1xr8...@fnord.io.com>
James Seymour McTavish <JS_McTavis...@NoSpamPlease.net> writes:
{...]
>You're the one nursing a grudge! You got fired and now you're miffed. You
>got
>fired because of all the evidence I gave Rice University concerning your
>stalking people on their time and using their facilities!
Sorry, but that's not the truth you want. What actually happened is none of
your business, and that's the University's opinion, with which I concur.
[...]
>>>Care to deny you were fired from Rice University?
:.
>>I've never denied that. what you can't accept is that you don't know
why.
:.
>I know why and yet your remain in denial! Rice did not contact me for
>naught!
>I sent them hundreds of headers spanned over years which proved you were
>stalking up and down USENET harassing people when you were supposed to be
>doing your job!
Keep patting yourself on the back for something you were a bit player in at
best.
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
As for me being a "bit player at best" in Patrick's firing is Patrick not
wanting to admit I got him fired! Rice University's own security department
under Rice President (at the time) Malcolm Gillis contacted me and asked for
headers showing the dates and times of Patrick's stalkings. They
investigated
and not too much later Patrick was fired! Patrick violated his employee's
policy
regarding Rice University's computer facilities as shown here:
Rice University "Appropriate Use of Computing Facilities" Policy (832-99)
http://www.professor.rice.edu/professor/Appropriate_Use_of_Computer_R...
(New link active February 3, 2004. Archived locally as RICEedu832-99)
Rice University General Policy No. 832-99
Appropriate Use of Computer Resources
Introduction
The University's computer and information network is a continually growing
and changing resource that supports thousands of users and systems. These
resources are vital for the fulfillment of the academic, research and
business needs of the University community. Their use is provided as a
privilege. In order to ensure a reasonable and dependable level of
service, it is essential that each individual faculty member, staff
member, and student must exercise responsible, ethical behavior when using
these resources. Misuse by even a few individuals has the potential to
disrupt University business, and, even worse, the legitimate academic and
research work of faculty and students...
The unauthorized use of resources is prohibited and, in many cases, may be
violations of the law. We are guided by the law in noting that
unauthorized use includes, but is not limited to the following types of
activities.
Harassment or threats to specific individuals, or a class of individuals:
* Using e-mail or newsgroups to threaten or stalk someone...
Questions Relating to This Policy
The examples of unauthorized use set forth above are not meant to be
exhaustive. Answers to commonly asked questions about the appropriate use
of University computer and information network resources and examples of
actions that would violate this policy are discussed on the Information
Technology web page. Additional questions about this policy or of the
applicability of this policy to a particular situation should be referred
to: violat...@rice.edu. The Vice President for Information Technology is
the final authority on questions of appropriate use of University
resources. Whenever you are in doubt regarding an issue of questionable
use, it is in your best interest to resolve the issue before pursuing any
questionable use of University resources.
Malcolm Gillis, President
Policy No. 832-93
August 25, 1993
Revised: February 15, 1999
<end>
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To: Scott Bradbury <xxx...@flash.net>
From: Carlos Garcia <cagar...@rice.edu>
Subject: Re: Your Complaint
X-UIDL: e2a2bfcec00f3bb5f0ccb0709fcb8abe
Mr. Bradbury, I would appreciate it if you would forward to me the
messages that you referred to below. Unfortunately the person who will be
investigating this matter caught the flu last week, but I expect her back
soon. When she returns I will give her any messages you have forwarded to
me. Thank you. Carlos Garcia
- Show quoted text -
For the record Mr. Garcia has been provided with the examples of Patrick
saying his superiors are laughing me, throwing my complaints in the
wastebasket etc. We will see if Rice is honorable and will take care of
their misbehaving and gold bricking staff member.
Merry Christmas Patrick-- I tried to warn you BUT you would not shut up
and you did imply your superiors approve of your harassment and stalking.
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Here is another person who got tired of being stalked by Patrick from Rice
University:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3ba90f9e_4%40corp.newsgroups....
From: "Pontiff Maximus" <police.law...@bigfoot.com>
References: <hdshqtgal907pbvic5ko6u9g8orjcb7...@4ax.com>
Subject: Re: Attention: Mr. Malcolm Gillis, Patrick L. Humphrey is Still
Stalking People on Rice U's Time
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:46:03 -0500
Message-ID: <3ba90f9...@corp.newsgroups.com>
This is a formal complaint about one of your employees:
Patrick L Humphrey
name: Humphrey, Patrick L
class: staff
department: Operations Center
title: Computer Operator
mailstop: Operations Center MS119
office: 109 Mudd Building
phone: 713-348-XXXX
email: patr...@rice.edu
homepage: http://is.rice.edu/~patrick/
nickname: patrick
Subject: Stalking of several people using the Rice University Computers.
Your employee has been for several years stalking me on the Internet. I am a
police officer and he posts my address's where I live and work. He calls up
my Internet service Provider and make false complaints. I would appreciate
if you could have him stop this type of harassment.
Please email me back so I may inform you of the details with your phone
number.
To whom it may Concern:
CC: p...@rice.edu
http://www.chami.com/tips/internet/111896I.html
Type in patr...@io.com for the finger.
It will tell you that he is accessing his account while at work at Rice.
finger: : no such user.
Login: Patrick Name: Patrick L. Humphrey
Directory: /home/p/Patrick Shell: /usr/local/bin/tcsh
Office: West of Eden, 713 348-4989 Home Phone: 713 266-7764
Last login Wed Sep 19 09:41 (CDT) on pts/49 from wolf.is.rice.edu
Mail last read Wed Sep 19 02:41 2001 (CDT)
Login from Rice? Hummmm.......
-------------------------------
For those sick unto death of Patrick's relentless stalking people
on Rice University's time please contact his employer who would like
to know and be shown positive proofs he may act upon. It is hard for Rice
to terminate employees without an established history of misconduct
on their part.
http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~presiden/
PRESIDENT'S OFFICE
Malcolm Gillis, President
Rice University- MS-1
Phone (713) 348-XXXX or (713) 348-XXXX
Fax (713) 348-XXXX
X...@rice.edu
203 Lovett Hall
Carlos Garcia
Associate General Counsel
Rice University- M.S. 94
P.O. Box 1892
Houston, Texas 77251-1892
TEL: 713/348-XXXX
FAX: 713/348-XXXX
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
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Alex DeLarge
> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:51:41 -0700, Alex DeLarge <kor...@milk.bar> wrote:
>> Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>>
>>
>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Get a haircut, FREAK!
>>
>> http://images.military.com/MemberImageUpload/d652/652282
>
> Could you do Usenet the consideration of killing yourself, Jeff?
Out comes your Rice net-stalking affair:
Donna Evleth
> From: "hls" <h...@nospam.nix>
> Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:51:48 -0600
> Subject: Re: GOP Head of TX Death Panel Calls for More Secrecy
I agree.
Donna Evleth
>
The Chief Instigator
> The Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:51:41 -0700, Alex DeLarge <kor...@milk.bar> wrote:
>>> Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Get a haircut, FREAK!
>>>
>>> http://images.military.com/MemberImageUpload/d652/652282
>>
>> Could you do Usenet the consideration of killing yourself, Jeff?
>
> Out comes your Rice net-stalking affair:
(Jeff Casto unprovable spam flushed)
Keep on firing at me...except aim at what's left between your ears. (That's
a challenge, in your case.)
The Chief Instigator
> The Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:51:41 -0700, Alex DeLarge <kor...@milk.bar> wrote:
>>> Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Get a haircut, FREAK!
>>>
>>> http://images.military.com/MemberImageUpload/d652/652282
>>
>> Could you do Usenet the consideration of killing yourself, Jeff?
>
> Out comes your Rice net-stalking affair:
>
>======================================================================================================================
(Casto's fantasy, posted twice...he's anything but stable, much less sane.)
Alex DeLarge
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:49:45 -0700, Alex DeLarge <kor...@milk.bar> wrote:
>> The Chief Instigator wrote:
>>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:51:41 -0700, Alex DeLarge <kor...@milk.bar> wrote:
>>>> Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> Get a haircut, FREAK!
>>>>
>>>> http://images.military.com/MemberImageUpload/d652/652282
>>> Could you do Usenet the consideration of killing yourself, Jeff?
>> Out comes your Rice net-stalking affair:
>>
>> ======================================================================================================================
>
> (Casto's fantasy, posted twice...he's anything but stable, much less sane.)
>
The Chief Instigator
You're the one keeping a lot of bars in your neighborhood prosperous, Jeff.
How many times have you been busted on 28th Street? (I'm 0 for lifetime.)
Alex DeLarge
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:08:00 -0700, Alex DeLarge <kor...@milk.bar> wrote:
>> The Chief Instigator wrote:
>>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:49:45 -0700, Alex DeLarge <kor...@milk.bar> wrote:
>>>> The Chief Instigator wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:51:41 -0700, Alex DeLarge <kor...@milk.bar> wrote:
>>>>>> Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Get a haircut, FREAK!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://images.military.com/MemberImageUpload/d652/652282
>>>>> Could you do Usenet the consideration of killing yourself, Jeff?
>>>> Out comes your Rice net-stalking affair:
>>>>
>>>> ======================================================================================================================
>>> (Casto's fantasy, posted twice...he's anything but stable, much less sane.)
>>>
>> OCD Patty is on a jag again...
>
> You're the one
Patty, YOU instigated again, not me.
Cope.