The May-September Affair
brojack
[
75-year-old man charged with impregnating 10-year-old
By Associated Press, 4/18/2002 01:35
BRIDGEPORT, Conn. (AP) City police have accused a 75-year-old man of
impregnating a 10-year-old girl he met at his senior center.
Jimmy Kave of Bridgeport admitted having sex with the girl several
times, but claims she had enticed him, police said. He turned himself
in Wednesday after learning there was a warrant for his arrest.
The girl, now 11 and six months pregnant, has been removed from her
home and taken into the custody by the state Department of Children
and Families.
The Connecticut Post reported that the girl apparently intends to have
the baby.
Her mother, who reported the assault to police, said her daughter met
Kave through an ''Adopt-a-Godfather'' program at the Harborview Towers
housing complex.
Kave was charged with six counts of first-degree sexual assault, eight
counts of risk of injury to a minor and two counts of fourth-degree
sexual assault.
Kave was arraigned Wednesday in Bridgeport Superior Court, where he
was brought into the courtroom in handcuffs and leg shackles. Judge
Thomas Upson set bond at $500,000 and scheduled his next court
appearance for April 30.
Kave has an extensive criminal record, including a 1984 sexual assault
conviction in New Haven.
Police allege that Kave began sexually assaulting the girl beginning
in January 2001.
Alan B. Mac Farlane
old to give birth and maybe survive.
Here little vagina is going to be so torn up over this.
Pooping out a 8 pound watermellon is no small endeavor Jack.
Just you squat and give it a try.
Then figure that for a 10 year old.
If ever a case screamed out for the state to interfer and force an abortion
for the sake and welfare of the birthmother this is it ... on a par with
taking the child away from its own parent objects into someplace with more
supervision.
How did this mom get her daughter to leave her alone and get boffed like
that, again and again and again ...
I give that repeat stuff up real quick myself.
Learned that with growing tumors and having knifes stuck in me.
Novelity wears off after awhile.
sumbuddie said dis
:*)
in article 3cbe9cbf...@corp-news.newsfeeds.com, brojack at
bro...@yomama.org wrote on 4/18/02 3:15 AM:
> http://www.boston.com/dailynews/108/region/75_year_old_man_charged_with_i:.sht
> ml
>
> [
> 75-year-old man charged with impregnating 10-year-old
> By Associated Press, 4/18/2002 01:35
> BRIDGEPORT, Conn. (AP) City police have accused a 75-year-old man of
> impregnating a 10-year-old girl he met at his senior center.
>
> Jimmy Kave of Bridgeport admitted having sex with the girl several
> times, but claims she had enticed him, police said. He turned himself
> in Wednesday after learning there was a warrant for his arrest.
>
> The girl, now 11 and six months pregnant, has been removed from her
> home and taken into the custody by the state Department of Children
> and Families.
>
> The Connecticut Post reported that the girl apparently intends to have
> the baby
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"brojack" <bro...@yomama.org> wrote in message
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>
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>
> [
> 75-year-old man charged with impregnating 10-year-old
> By Associated Press, 4/18/2002 01:35
> BRIDGEPORT, Conn. (AP) City police have accused a 75-year-old man of
> impregnating a 10-year-old girl he met at his senior center.
>
Good for him.
>
> The girl, now 11 and six months pregnant, has been removed from her
> home and taken into the custody by the state Department of Children
> and Families.
Oh well done. She's the "victim" of a sexual "assault" so subject her to a
kidnapping as well.
>
> ....
>
> Police allege that Kave began sexually assaulting the girl beginning
> in January 2001.
>
And when did she "begin" complaining?
ML
greccogirl
who won't be missed.
greccogirl
can get!
mhirtes
"Alan B. Mac Farlane" wrote:
>
> Our society will be so much richer and a more perfect union for this 10 year
> old to give birth and maybe survive.
>
> Here little vagina is going to be so torn up over this.
>
> Pooping out a 8 pound watermellon is no small endeavor Jack.
>
> Just you squat and give it a try.
>
> Then figure that for a 10 year old.
If we're lucky, she'll die from the pregnancy but the fetus will surive,
wearing the carcass of her mom like a body suit.
If we're gonna splork the nozzle into Lolita here, maybe we need to
'encourage" her a bit to go along with the program. A good showing of
scenes from "Alien" and "It's Alive" might be a good start.
Richard Steven Walz
Alan B. Mac Farlane <abm...@neteze.com> wrote:
>Our society will be so much richer and a more perfect union for this 10 year
>old to give birth and maybe survive.
>
>Here little vagina is going to be so torn up over this.
>
>Pooping out a 8 pound watermellon is no small endeavor Jack.
>
>Just you squat and give it a try.
>
>Then figure that for a 10 year old.
Only LARGE and early blooming 10 year-old's get pregnant. And they often
have caesarians anyway, as do a majority of women now.
>If ever a case screamed out for the state to interfer and force an abortion
>for the sake and welfare of the birthmother this is it ... on a par with
>taking the child away from its own parent objects into someplace with more
>supervision.
-----------------------------------
Yes, the ten year old should be made aware of her right to abortion.
No, it is NOT appropriate to deprive her of that choice, it's her body.
>How did this mom get her daughter to leave her alone and get boffed like
>that, again and again and again ...
--------------------------------------------
Who would have imagined that a guy that old could do that!?? Do parents
worry when they leave their kids with their grandparents?
The girl would have surely had to LIKE it, so the problem was this
society's antisexuality and its and her parents' failure to provide her
with an appropriate place for sex that she so clearly wanted, and contra-
ception. In this day and age every ten year old knows what sexual abuse
is. She obviously didn't label it abuse, and she returned again and again!
>I give that repeat stuff up real quick myself.
>Learned that with growing tumors and having knifes stuck in me.
>Novelity wears off after awhile.
>sumbuddie said dis
------------------------------
We've seen you, you're an antisexual asshole.
Steve
Richard Steven Walz
greccogirl <grecc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Sounds like a good argument for the death penality, doesn't it? One guy
>who won't be missed.
The girl came back again and again. And any ten y/o who gets pregnant is
sexually mature anyway, as my wife was at age ten when she was 5'4", had
her periods already, and b-cup boobs!! My wife was hot for anybody when she
was ten!! And so you think that deserves death when all he did was what she
clearly wanted? Get real!! You're a fucking hysterical baptist!! All it is
with you is your antisexual neurosis speaking, you might as well be screaming
"burn the witch, he's a witch!"
Steve
Richard Steven Walz
greccogirl <grecc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>It doesn't matter when. SHE IS 10 YEARS OLD. He deserves the worst he
>can get!
Where do you GET this antisexual hysterical crap??
Steve
greccogirl
Richard Steven Walz
greccogirl <grecc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>From the law.
-----------------------------
You stupid shit-ass. WE invented the law, the law is OUR inaccurate MULE
with millions of ropes around its neck and we're all trying to drag it
different directions, it is a dummy, it knows nothing and explains nothing
it does because it has no mind, WE are its mind, some more and better than
others, like me and others like me who try to make it more humane and more
just!! Your antisexual bullshit is nothing but unkind and unjust!!
Steve
Wrong Piteous
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 18:16:09 -0400, greccogirl <grecc...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>Sounds like a good argument for the death penality, doesn't it? One guy
>who won't be missed.
>
>brojack wrote:
[entire article, reposted by way of reply, snipped]
You mindless, useless waste of top-posting donkey spittle. What's the
fucking matter, greccogirl? Spent all your allowance on Britney
Spears memorabilia and now you can't afford to pay attention? This
thread is being cross-posted to at least one newsgroup where fucking
pre-teenaged girls is a spectator sport. Figure that out.
And while you're at it, figure out how to use your newsreader and,
most importantly, your EDITOR. You TRIM OUT the parts of the article
you're NOT replying to, and you add your worthless, content-free reply
BELOW what's come before. Not too hard. Most everyone else can
manage it. Monkey see, monkey do. Right?
Or am I making groundless assumptions about your evolutionary
progress?
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Chelo Felice
do have to note that a 10-year-old who is physically/ sexually mature may not be
mentally/ emotionally mature to deal with sex, which is why we have the law in the
first place. She very much is not mature enough to mother a child; few /teenagers/
are mature enough for that. And her body /will/ be damaged by the birth, even if she
is large for her age.
I don't believe the man deserves the death penalty, no, but he /should/ be kept from
being alone with young girls. He is old enough to know the law-- whether he agrees
with it or not.
Chelo
Richard Steven Walz
Chelo Felice <tr...@warpnet.net> wrote:
>Although I am sure this will get me labelled an... antisexual
>something-or-another, I
>do have to note that a 10-year-old who is physically/ sexually mature
>may not be
>mentally/ emotionally mature to deal with sex,
That's nothing but a myth. Sex has been a characteristic of kids play since
our forbears were squirrels. There's nothing special in any way about
sexual play as long as the person wants it they are ready for it by
definition! In this day and age we have contraception and abortion, and
most kids can't get pregnant till their body can handle it anyway!
>which is why we have the
>law in the
>first place.
------------------
No, we have the law due to sick neurotic western Xtian bigot antisexuality.
It has nothing to do with reason or logic. MANY other non-western cultures
aren't at all concerned if their kids play at sex as long as THEY want to
do so, including intercourse, and by the time a child wants sex seriously
enough to sneak around about it they are indeed no child!
> She very much is not mature enough to mother a child; few
>/teenagers/
>are mature enough for that. And her body /will/ be damaged by the
>birth, even if she
>is large for her age.
-----------------------
That is true of more than half of all pregancies now because of the small
pelvis and large head of our species, so it is by no means limited to 10
year olds who, like my wife may be 5'4" and 130 pounds and have B-cup tits
and a big hairy pussy that she was desperately horny to fill at age 10
having had her periods start that year as well. Any girl who can GET
pregnant is physically mature enough to mother a child.
>I don't believe the man deserves the death penalty, no, but he /should/
>be kept from
>being alone with young girls. He is old enough to know the law--
>whether he agrees
>with it or not.
>Chelo
--------------------------
"The Law is an ass." - Mark Twain
Save your concern for kids who don't want it and are assaulted, for God's
sake, she came back for more and more and more! She probably would have
preferred a person her age or a bit older, but she had to settle for him
because of the stupidity of this culture. Fuck this antisexual society and
its stupid religion, it should be chopped up and tossed in a hole and
burned!! What would we replace it with? What would you replace a CANCER
with!?? Adults should be prohbited from interfering with the sexual desires
of children on penalty of death!
Steve
Nanook of the North
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 10:15:30 GMT, brojack excreted the following:
> 75-year-old man charged with impregnating 10-year-old
> BRIDGEPORT, Conn. (AP) City police have accused a 75-year-old man of
> impregnating a 10-year-old girl he met at his senior center.
<snippage>
> Her mother, who reported the assault to police, said her daughter met
> Kave through an ''Adopt-a-Godfather'' program at the Harborview Towers
> housing complex.
Yo, Pred! Time for a second edition, dude. Call this guy for his story,
eh? And tell him to use a fuckin' rubber next time.
ObSheesh: Sheesh.
Robert [damn, my sigmonster's on a roll...]
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beginning to get fed up with it. - George Orwell, Coming Up for Air
Roberta Hatch
>It doesn't matter when. SHE IS 10 YEARS OLD. He deserves the worst he
>can get!
I agree one-hundred-percent. Let's make him fuck 75-year-old
grandmothers. We'll start him off with your granny.
< snip >
Bobbi
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drdoody
> Sounds like a good argument for the death penality, doesn't it? One guy
> who won't be missed.
Alright, I think it's high time for a little friendly advice.
Now, I'm well aware that this post came to you already cross-posted to
alt.tasteless and, being the righteous individual you are, you were
probably too caught up touting your own ideas of morality to notice
that you were touting them in possibly the most amoral NG on the
planet.
It's not your fault... you're just stupid.
But now it's time for you to stop. Alt.Tasteless is *our* cesspit.
Keep yourself and your poorly-written one-liners the fuck out of it.
Occupying the Moral High Ground in AT is akin to playing a reggae song
at a KKK rally. Not only will it be completely unappreciated, it will
most likely earn you a trip to the local landfill packed into multiple
garbage bags. Here in AT, we do not possess a Moral High Ground, we
have an Immoral High Ground. Most people here couldn't care less what
sentence this old fart gets for impregnating a ten year old, only if
he managed to stick it up her ass before being accosted by the
authorities.
In the future, you should endeavor to trim the: "alt.tasteless" from
your header before posting. This will save us all here from having to
scroll through your indignant drivel and will save you the pain and
embarassment of the newsgroup equivalent of repeated assreamings with
a steam shovel piloted by a Down's Syndrome chimp on a meth binge.
Doc
spam princess
> home and taken into the custody by the state Department of Children
> and Families.
why? what did her parents do wrong?
Legless
news:3cbf4fc8$0$79559$8ee...@newsreader.tycho.net...
> In article <3CBF45A9...@yahoo.com>,
> greccogirl <grecc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Sounds like a good argument for the death penality, doesn't it? One guy
> >who won't be missed.
> ------------------------
> The girl came back again and again. And any ten y/o who gets pregnant is
> sexually mature anyway, as my wife was at age ten when she was 5'4", had
> her periods already, and b-cup boobs!! My wife was hot for anybody when
>she was ten!!
So no change there then.
Cheers
Legless
SpiritQuest
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> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> Would you all do the same? We have enough tasteless stuff over here on
> ocassion,without collecting other tasteless stuff originating off-site.
>
> Windy - going to get a tasty donut, coffee and watch the tasteless news
> about tasteless and not very bright wife, murderers. I just love it when
> the news is this juicy, its mindless and sordid.
But you're gonna log off anyway and watch TV? :)}
SpiritQuest
Mindless
but juicy :)}
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ML
"greccogirl" <grecc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> From the law.
>
> Richard Steven Walz wrote:
> >
> > In article <3CBF45CF...@yahoo.com>,
> > greccogirl <grecc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >It doesn't matter when. SHE IS 10 YEARS OLD. He deserves the worst he
> > >can get!
...
Liz
windswept wrote:
>
> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> Would you all do the same? We have enough tasteless stuff over here on
>
> ocassion,without collecting other tasteless stuff originating off-site.
>
> Windy - going to get a tasty donut, coffee and watch the tasteless news
>
> about tasteless and not very bright wife, murderers. I just love it when
>
> the news is this juicy, its mindless and sordid.
>
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news:<3CBF45A9...@yahoo.com>...
> > Sounds like a good argument for the death penality, doesn't it? One guy
> > who won't be missed.
>
> a steam shovel piloted by a Down's Syndrome chimp on a meth binge.
>
Btw, "Down's Syndrome X" = "X suffering from mongolism". Apart from that I
agreed with every word!
Moufang Loop
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Exactly. Also note the "taken into the custody" as if she was a criminal.
Sounds like a normal fun-loving kid to me.
ML
Henrik Bengtsson
"greccogirl" <grecc...@yahoo.com> skrev i meddelandet
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> From the law.
And since it's the law it has to be right? You would have made a damn fine
campguard during WW2.
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. Most people here couldn't care less what sentence this old
> fart gets for impregnating a ten year old, only if he managed to stick it
> up her ass before being accosted by the authorities.
>
Semolina Pilchard
wrote:
>Although I am sure this will get me labelled an... antisexual something-or-another, I
>do have to note that a 10-year-old who is physically/ sexually mature may not be
>mentally/ emotionally mature to deal with sex, which is why we have the law in the
>first place. She very much is not mature enough to mother a child; few /teenagers/
>are mature enough for that. And her body /will/ be damaged by the birth, even if she
>is large for her age.
>
>I don't believe the man deserves the death penalty, no, but he /should/ be kept from
>being alone with young girls. He is old enough to know the law-- whether he agrees
>with it or not.
>
Chelo, I am not about to label you in any way. Rather, I have
suggestions that you might follow in future. Trim your headers to the
groups you feel might welcome what you have to say. Here in
alt.tasteless, we welcome the misery that such a story implies, and
your moralising might dampen our fun. While a.t. is not a nest of
pedophiles, the odd one has been known to entertain us from time to
time.
Generally, we are more interested in good, wholesome recipes for
cooked children, though I concede that a well-developed ten-year-old
might exceed the capacity of the normal oven. She might be rich
enough to require a red wine, I think.
In the main, I find, children are the hope for the excessive violence
we missed ourselves. Other than that, a baseball bat well-studded
with tacks suffices to keep them unobtrusively quiet, one way or
another.
I have arduously striven to keep this message civil and pleasant,
Chelo. I strongly suggest that in future you restrict your
communications to those who give a fuck.
p.s. I have left the headers as they are, as an example.
--
Kindest Regards,
The Late Semolina Pilchard
greccogirl
greccogirl
Dragon
Especially in view of the slanted reporting and the complete abscense of any
explantion of why the child was removed from her parents custody, which in
my mind raises a hell of a lot more questions that it answers.
Incidently, Jack - how about explaining why you cross posted this like you
did?
Dragon
"Richard Steven Walz" <rst...@deeptht.armory.com> wrote in message
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Dragon
And think about this: most of the world considers a 10 year old to be a
child, no matter how sexually mature she may be.
Dragon
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Dragon
Did you miss that little fact?
Dragon
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Malaclypse the Younger
>
> Oh god...you said donut....
<cascade snipped>
Look, you top-posting, me-tooing, meowing little cascade poster...
Print this post.
Roll it up around a bottle.
Smash the bottle.
Make the roll tighter.
Shove it up your leather donut.
Then come back and tell us and we'll all have a good wan^Wlaugh. Till
then, kindly get cancer and die.
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M.E. Mitchell
> In article <B8E42466.2448%abm...@neteze.com>,
> Alan B. Mac Farlane <abm...@neteze.com> wrote:
> >Our society will be so much richer and a more perfect union for this 10
year
> >old to give birth and maybe survive.
> >
> >Here little vagina is going to be so torn up over this.
> >
> >Pooping out a 8 pound watermellon is no small endeavor Jack.
> >
> >Just you squat and give it a try.
> >
> >Then figure that for a 10 year old.
> ----------------------------------
> Only LARGE and early blooming 10 year-old's get pregnant. And they often
> have caesarians anyway, as do a majority of women now.
>
>
> >If ever a case screamed out for the state to interfer and force an
abortion
> >for the sake and welfare of the birthmother this is it ... on a par with
> >taking the child away from its own parent objects into someplace with
more
> >supervision.
> -----------------------------------
> Yes, the ten year old should be made aware of her right to abortion.
> No, it is NOT appropriate to deprive her of that choice, it's her body.
>
>
> >How did this mom get her daughter to leave her alone and get boffed like
> >that, again and again and again ...
> --------------------------------------------
> Who would have imagined that a guy that old could do that!?? Do parents
> worry when they leave their kids with their grandparents?
>
> The girl would have surely had to LIKE it, so the problem was this
> society's antisexuality and its and her parents' failure to provide her
> with an appropriate place for sex that she so clearly wanted, and contra-
> ception. In this day and age every ten year old knows what sexual abuse
> is. She obviously didn't label it abuse, and she returned again and again!
Then that's like saying the men who were sexually abused as boys by priests
must have liked it because they returned again and again. How unfair of
you to put the blame on the child.
Mary
>
> >I give that repeat stuff up real quick myself.
> >Learned that with growing tumors and having knifes stuck in me.
> >Novelity wears off after awhile.
> >sumbuddie said dis
> ------------------------------
> We've seen you, you're an antisexual asshole.
> Steve
>
>
> >in article 3cbe9cbf...@corp-news.newsfeeds.com, brojack at
> >bro...@yomama.org wrote on 4/18/02 3:15 AM:
> >
> >>
http://www.boston.com/dailynews/108/region/75_year_old_man_charged_with_i:.s
ht
> >> ml
> >>
> >> [
> >> 75-year-old man charged with impregnating 10-year-old
> >> By Associated Press, 4/18/2002 01:35
> >> BRIDGEPORT, Conn. (AP) City police have accused a 75-year-old man of
> >> impregnating a 10-year-old girl he met at his senior center.
> >>
> >> Jimmy Kave of Bridgeport admitted having sex with the girl several
> >> times, but claims she had enticed him, police said. He turned himself
> >> in Wednesday after learning there was a warrant for his arrest.
> >>
> >> The girl, now 11 and six months pregnant, has been removed from her
> >> home and taken into the custody by the state Department of Children
> >> and Families.
> >>
> >> The Connecticut Post reported that the girl apparently intends to have
> >> the baby
> >
> >
> >
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Alan B. Mac Farlane
you are one sick fuck, saying that ONLY large blooming girls with big
pussies get pregnant ... from daddies and uncles and brothers and next door
neighbors and 74 year old pedophiles in nursing homes.
i can only guess you have some experience with this ...
still, a ten year old is ok to cut on, slice up, destroy her womb as big as
it is in her little body and maybe she will live and give her the legacy to
live with for the rest of her life.
of course large blooming 10 year olds are just as strong and healthy as 25
year old women in the prime of their child bearing years and can handle this
psychological and physical demand.
oh silly me just cant understand these things.
sumbuddie said dis
:*)
in article A7fw8.3182$t65....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net, M.E. Mitchell at
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>> Only LARGE and early blooming 10 year-old's get pregnant. And they often
>> have caesarians anyway, as do a majority of women now.
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"Dragon" <drago...@leavemealoneyouidiots.tvsonline.net> wrote in message
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> Steve: take note of where this is being cross-posted to.
>
> And think about this: most of the world considers a 10 year old to be a
> child, no matter how sexually mature she may be.
>
> Dragon
Where it's being cross-posted to doesn't stop greccogirl's "He deserves the
worst he can get!" being the "antisexual hysterical crap" that Steve said it
was.
Even if the whole world considers a ten year old to be a child (and I agree)
that does not mean that being a child implies that one shouldn't be involved
in sex. Children eat, drink, walk, sleep,... and perform all the other
natural functions that adults perform; why should they be denied the most
pleasurable? If a ten year old girl is opening her legs for men there are
obvious dangers one of wich is pregnancy. There is an equally obvious
solution: the pill.
ML
>
>
> "Richard Steven Walz" <rst...@deeptht.armory.com> wrote in message
> news:3cbf500a$0$79563$8ee...@newsreader.tycho.net...
> > In article <3CBF45CF...@yahoo.com>,
> > greccogirl <grecc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >It doesn't matter when. SHE IS 10 YEARS OLD. He deserves the worst he
> > >can get!
> > -----------------------------
> > Where do you GET this antisexual hysterical crap??
> > Steve
> >
....
Moufang Loop
> Interesting how you lot can read their minds.
>
> Especially in view of the slanted reporting and the complete abscense of
any
> explantion of why the child was removed from her parents custody, which in
> my mind raises a hell of a lot more questions that it answers.
>
Yes, I was wondering that. Kidnapping is a serious crime where I come from.
ML
Moufang Loop
> A 75 year old man is *not* a kid.
>
> Did you miss that little fact?
>
> Dragon
Heard of second childhood?
> ....
Moufang Loop
> You think you are embarrasing someone? My you are tasteless.
>
The purpose was not to embarrass you, but to educate you.
False pearls before real swine
ML
Moufang Loop
"M.E. Mitchell" <me.mi...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:A7fw8.3182$t65....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
>
> "Richard Steven Walz" <rst...@deeptht.armory.com> wrote in message
> news:3cbf4c89$0$36736$8ee...@newsreader.tycho.net...
> > -----------------------------------
> > Yes, the ten year old should be made aware of her right to abortion.
> > No, it is NOT appropriate to deprive her of that choice, it's her body.
The baby that would be aborted would not be "her body". That's one thing
I've never understood about the pro-choicers talking about a woman's right
to do what she wants with "her body": it's not hers that gets killed.
> ...
>
> Then that's like saying the men who were sexually abused as boys by
priests
> must have liked it because they returned again and again. How unfair of
> you to put the blame on the child.
>
> Mary
> >
A former Catholic chaplain of Gatwick Airport has appeared in court charged
with a string of sex attacks dating back nearly 30 years. If I was a police
officer or a juror faced with a "witness" who was complaining *now for the
first time* about something that happened nearly 30years ago, I'd assume
that they were lying.
ML
Richard Steven Walz
Dragon <drago...@leavemealoneyouidiots.tvsonline.net> wrote:
>Steve: take note of where this is being cross-posted to.
>
>And think about this: most of the world considers a 10 year old to be a
>child, no matter how sexually mature she may be.
>Dragon
No, only Americans do that. Americans think everybody is like them.
They're wrong.
Steve
Richard Steven Walz
Dragon <drago...@leavemealoneyouidiots.tvsonline.net> wrote:
>A 75 year old man is *not* a kid.
>
>Did you miss that little fact?
>Dragon
Nobody can get more fucked by a 75 year old than a 16 year old.
The age factor is irrelevant.
It just grosses out Americans because they have ENOUGH trouble just feeling
like SEX is normal, without imagining OLD people like their PARENTS doing
it!! OR imagining fucking somebody their parent's or grandparents' age!!!
To people for whom sex feels normal they look insane, and they are!!
Steve
Richard Steven Walz
No, priests are MONDO authority figures. Old men in elder-care homes are
not. A priest or someone your family recommends to you as an authority,
like unto Gawd, is different from just some old guy.
>How unfair of
>you to put the blame on the child.
>Mary
------------------------------
How STUPID of you not to see the difference!!
She wasn't just some immature child, she got PREGNANT!!
She probably is hairy and has tits!
This indicates that she had to be "doing it right", NOT just some
manual molestation LIKE MOST PEDOPHILES, AS WELL AS enjoying it.
You have to be a CO-conspirator to do it THAT well!!
And the odds of getting pregant off sperm THAT old the first time is
minute! She had to be fucking the hell out of him!!
She PROBABLY put up a stink when they caught her "boyfriend"
and that's why they took her away from her parents!!
Stupid vicious shits!
Steve
Richard Steven Walz
>
>you are one sick fuck, saying that ONLY large blooming girls with big
>pussies get pregnant ... from daddies and uncles and brothers and next door
>neighbors and 74 year old pedophiles in nursing homes.
It's the truth.
>i can only guess you have some experience with this ...
------------------------
You're full of shit.
>still, a ten year old is ok to cut on, slice up, destroy her womb as big as
>it is in her little body and maybe she will live and give her the legacy to
>live with for the rest of her life.
----------------------------
Now or later, not much difference.
>of course large blooming 10 year olds are just as strong and healthy as 25
>year old women in the prime of their child bearing years and can handle this
>psychological and physical demand.
-------------------------------
If they can get pregnant they aren't little girls anyway.
Ever seen one? They are adult-sized. My wife was 5'4" and 130 pounds at age
10. Periods, hair all over(jewish), and B-cup tits.
>oh silly me just cant understand these things.
>sumbuddie said dis
---------------------------
She needs to be raised in a society friendly to sex and contraception so
she doesn't HAVE to be pregnant right now.
She needs to be raised in a society which has killed all the ignorant
bastards like YOU!
Steve
Richard Steven Walz
Moufang Loop <Moufan...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
>> "Richard Steven Walz" <rst...@deeptht.armory.com> wrote in message
>
>> > No, it is NOT appropriate to deprive her of that choice, it's her body.
>
>The baby that would be aborted would not be "her body". That's one thing
>I've never understood about the pro-choicers talking about a woman's right
>to do what she wants with "her body": it's not hers that gets killed.
That's because you're only an ignorant fundy bigot.
It's also not a "baby". It's not even a human BEING, it's just human
tissue, and invading human tissue, like a cancer. That's her business, and
since it isn't a BEING it also isn't owned by anyone but her. A BEING is
self-aware, that's what BEING means. And not one of us remembers BEING a
fetus!! That's why nobody cares. They didn't exist yet back then! Only the
body they later inhabited existed as tissue. Memory is what YOU use to
remember you exist each moment. If you can't do that then there isn't any
"you" there!! If you don't remember it later than whoever the hell you
assert was inhabiting your body back then isn't here now anyway!!
>A former Catholic chaplain of Gatwick Airport has appeared in court charged
>with a string of sex attacks dating back nearly 30 years. If I was a police
>officer or a juror faced with a "witness" who was complaining *now for the
>first time* about something that happened nearly 30years ago, I'd assume
>that they were lying.
>ML
-------------------------------
I would tend to think it wasn't nearly important enough to jail someone NOW
for. After all, their victims let them run about all these years already.
It seems rather capricious to assert that they NOW get to jail them when
they hadn't bothered to before!! And who is then responsible for other
victims, the FIRST victims who neglected to do anything? A cop would tell
you YES!! That's what they tell rape victims to get them to testify!!
If YOU didn't know it was "WRONG" back then then it couldn't have been THAT
"WRONG"! Can anyone say: Litigious greed? I thought you could!
Steve
Moufang Loop
> ...
> Ever seen one? They are adult-sized. My wife was 5'4" and 130 pounds at
age
> 10. Periods, hair all over(jewish), and B-cup tits.
>
Jewish ?! Why didnt you do the world a favour and slit her throat then?
ML
Moufang Loop
> In article <a9s2cb$hm8$1...@paris.btinternet.com>,
> Moufang Loop <Moufan...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Richard Steven Walz" <rst...@deeptht.armory.com> wrote in message
> >
> >> > Yes, the ten year old should be made aware of her right to abortion.
> >> > No, it is NOT appropriate to deprive her of that choice, it's her
body.
> >
> >The baby that would be aborted would not be "her body". That's one thing
> >I've never understood about the pro-choicers talking about a woman's
right
> >to do what she wants with "her body": it's not hers that gets killed.
> ----------------------------
> That's because you're only an ignorant fundy bigot.
>
> It's also not a "baby". It's not even a human BEING, it's just human
> tissue, and invading human tissue, like a cancer. That's her business, and
> since it isn't a BEING it also isn't owned by anyone but her. A BEING is
> self-aware, that's what BEING means. And not one of us remembers BEING a
Not according to my dictionary. It means a variety of things:
being /bi/ n. ME. [f. BE + -ING1.] 1 Existence, material or immaterial;
life. ME. b Existence in some specified condition, circumstance, etc. E16.
2 Condition; standing, position; livelihood. ME-E19. 3 Substance,
constitution; nature, essence; person. ME. 4 That which exists or is
conceived as existing; esp. a person or other intelligent creature.
LME.beingness n. M17.
> fetus!! That's why nobody cares. They didn't exist yet back then! Only the
> body they later inhabited existed as tissue. Memory is what YOU use to
> remember you exist each moment. If you can't do that then there isn't any
> "you" there!! If you don't remember it later than whoever the hell you
> assert was inhabiting your body back then isn't here now anyway!!
>
>
>
You don't have any recollection of yourself one hour (or one day, one
month,...) after birth. Would it have been acceptable if you had been
killed then?
ML
Moufang Loop
> ....
>
> And the odds of getting pregant off sperm THAT old the first time is
> minute! She had to be fucking the hell out of him!!
Eh? You think that sperm is as old as the person who ejaculates it? It's
continually freshly made [*] you know.
>
> She PROBABLY put up a stink when they caught her "boyfriend"
> and that's why they took her away from her parents!!
Yes, you can be sure, if she was mature enough to have sex she'd have had
the sense to pin the blame on a man. It's part of growing up from girlhood
to womanhood to learn to blame men. It's a strange thing: women claim to be
superior to men _and_ under their thumb at the same time.
> Stupid vicious shits!
> Steve
...
ML
[* Sounds like an ad for something.]
Richard Steven Walz
Moufang Loop <Moufan...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
>"Richard Steven Walz" <rst...@deeptht.armory.com> wrote in message
>news:3cc1b08b$0$79557$8ee...@newsreader.tycho.net...
>> In article <a9s2cb$hm8$1...@paris.btinternet.com>,
>> Moufang Loop <Moufan...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Richard Steven Walz" <rst...@deeptht.armory.com> wrote in message
>> >
>> >> > Yes, the ten year old should be made aware of her right to abortion.
>> >> > No, it is NOT appropriate to deprive her of that choice, it's her
>body.
>> >
>> >The baby that would be aborted would not be "her body". That's one thing
>> >I've never understood about the pro-choicers talking about a woman's
>right
>> >to do what she wants with "her body": it's not hers that gets killed.
>> ----------------------------
>> That's because you're only an ignorant fundy bigot.
>>
>> It's also not a "baby". It's not even a human BEING, it's just human
>> tissue, and invading human tissue, like a cancer. That's her business, and
>> since it isn't a BEING it also isn't owned by anyone but her. A BEING is
>> self-aware, that's what BEING means. And not one of us remembers BEING a
>
>Not according to my dictionary. It means a variety of things:
Don't quote dictionaries, those things are written by idiots who don't have
time to talk to anybody else!
My definition is the correct one because it's the one *I* used to express
myself. As my reader it is your job to figure out what *I* meant, not what
YOU meant! I used the word "BEING" like a variable in algebra, and I gave
it the parameters that were useful. *IT* said what *I* meant, now read what
*I* meant!
If you really need to then use a DIFFERENT word or symbol that DOES have
the meaning I assigned to it!! They are interchangable!! You see, it doesn't
matter, because I defined BEING as "knowing you exist" and posited that
without it it would be impossible to value anything, even yourself, because
you wouldn't BE here. Then I proved it by reminding you that we must remember
who we are every moment in order to exist, and that we do NOT remember
having been a fetus, because, obviously, we WEREN'T there!! If "we" HAD
been there, by the definition of "we" then "we" would remember it!! No
other situation in which we don't remember existing is in any question
as to whether we weren't there!!
If you try to dodge saying that we have lapses of memory I will remind you
that we do not categorize those as a failure to BE, instead we average
ourselves over time and posit that we need not exist at EVERY instant in
order to exist, BUT that we must exist in "enough" of them and "often
enough" so that we regard it as existing in our memory, and that we didn't
do THAT EITHER as a fetus!!
If you try to dodge saying that an anaesthetized person does not exist I
remind you that human practice is to give all previously existing persons
the benefit of the doubt under strict medical circumstances we have defined
as a condition from which we are recoverable. In other words if they can
exist again in future we define their existence to be continuous through a
period of lapse. We do NOT do this for beings which have not ever yet
existed to their own way of belief, viz abortion rights which are
publically supported in spite of universal disagreement with murder, and
our failure to regard inamimate objects and even living organs as persons.
This concludes the proof of human beingness as being conditional on memory.
Which THEN proves fetuses are NOT people.
>> fetus!! That's why nobody cares. They didn't exist yet back then! Only the
>> body they later inhabited existed as tissue. Memory is what YOU use to
>> remember you exist each moment. If you can't do that then there isn't any
>> "you" there!! If you don't remember it later than whoever the hell you
>> assert was inhabiting your body back then isn't here now anyway!!
>
>You don't have any recollection of yourself one hour (or one day, one
>month,...) after birth. Would it have been acceptable if you had been
>killed then?
>ML
------------------------------
"Acceptable" requires a "to whom" after it. Would it be acceptable to ME?
I wasn't here then, so I couldn't have possibly known or cared!!!
ALSO, imagining that ME caring now might change the past is totally absurd.
And to YOU? If you're the kind of idiot who cares about someone who doesn't
exist yet then you're disgressing into rankest superstition!! How do we
KNOW who "might be going to be here or not", that's the future!
As for the practice of neonatal infanticide, all ancient pre-medical
cultures respected it as an option, and numerous cultures EVEN TO THIS
DAY DO IT, and with abortion we hardly need to now anyway!!
When do we come into being? According to infant developmental studies we
acquire a sense of self along with an ability to remember actively for the
first time at between two and four months after birth!!
If the truth about our species were different and we DID exist as fetuses,
then I'd change my mind!! But it isn't so and we all know it!!
Steve
Richard Steven Walz
Are you some weird anti-semite or something?
We'll be along to bomb you later today sometime.
Steve
Richard Steven Walz
Moufang Loop <Moufan...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
>"Richard Steven Walz" <rst...@deeptht.armory.com> wrote in message
>news:3cc1abe6$0$79560$8ee...@newsreader.tycho.net...
>> ....
>>
>> And the odds of getting pregant off sperm THAT old the first time is
>> minute! She had to be fucking the hell out of him!!
>
>Eh? You think that sperm is as old as the person who ejaculates it? It's
>continually freshly made [*] you know.
Yeah, but look at viability and motility studies with age. Terrible!
>> She PROBABLY put up a stink when they caught her "boyfriend"
>> and that's why they took her away from her parents!!
>
>Yes, you can be sure, if she was mature enough to have sex she'd have had
>the sense to pin the blame on a man. It's part of growing up from girlhood
>to womanhood to learn to blame men. It's a strange thing: women claim to be
>superior to men _and_ under their thumb at the same time.
---------------------------
You're a paranoid, she probably tried to rescue him by telling them she
really liked it. In 50 years she'll be suing the govt for sexual oppression
like those Canadian women have done!!
Steve
drdoody
> You think you are embarrasing someone? My you are tasteless.
What part of "stay out of my newsgroup" did you not fucking
understand? You mewling, decerberate wankstain. I didn't ask for a
fucking reply. I didn't request that you spew forth any more of your
barely sentient drivel. I told you in the most congenial manner I
could muster for a fuckwit of your magnitude to steer clear of
alt.tasteless or you were going to get assraped with a severity not
seen since Ned Beatty gave up canoeing as a hobby.
Did you fucking listen?
Nope.
Most people would have seen what I posted to you as a freindly, if not
particularily gentle gesture. Sort of like whisking a roach out the
door with a spooge-encrusted Hustler rather than bringing a foot down
on it and splattering in all over the bathroom floor post orgasm.
Given my propensity for jumping out from the digital shadows and
mauling unsuspecting wankstains, my initial treatment of your
transgression would be considered merciful in the extreme.
Did you get the hint?
Nope.
So, here we find ourselves. You are quite possibly the most glaring
example of internet idiocy that I have encountered in several months.
You're so fucking stupid, in fact, that I have no doubt that this
flame will go completely unheeded and you will continue to yap on in
this newsgroup for quite some time. Honestly, if it weren't for the
fact that I am wrapping up a rather nasty 48-hour shift and have a few
minutes of extra time on my hands, I wouldn't be wasting my energy on
you at all. As it is, I'm going to work off a little frustration on
your puss-drizzling ass before I head off to my rack.
You won't mind, will you?
Didn't think so.
You are a fucking moron. Normally, I would have used a little more
elaborate language to state that fact, but I don't think you'd "get
it". I'm very suprised you can corral enough brain cells together to
use a computer. In fact, it's a shining miracle that you made it
through your first month of existance without forgetting to fucking
breathe. It's even more miraculous that your parents didn't drown you
in a puddle of your own urine. Basically, you are what's wrong with
our species. You're smart enough to shamble about this world, annoying
people and drooling on the expensive woodwork, but you're too fucking
stupid to get a clue and put yourself out of our misery.
Die. You annoying cunt. The next time your keepers allow you near a
sharp object, do us all a favor and stick it through your fucking
neck. Work it around a little bit, then pull it out and bleed to
death. Oh, and make sure you bleed over a garbage can, bathtub or some
other easily-cleaned object. There is no reason that anybody should
have to clean up any more of your fucking messes. I would tell you
that before you remove yourself from the gene pool to take out as many
of your relatives as possible, but you'd most likely fuck that up and
get locked away before you could do yourself.
In the meantime:
STAY OUT OF ALT.TASTLESS, YOU WORTHLESS PEICE OF GIBBERING SHIT.
Doc
Richard Steven Walz
drdoody <drd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
-------------------
Just eat shit and die, Dr DooDoo!!
You're nuthin' but an amateur moderator of an unmoderated group.
You're a fucking phony, and a LOOOOOOOSER!!
Steve
greccogirl
After that, others have answered me, so I post back.
You need to understand that you cannot control who posts where or what,
and your threats are simply silly.
Uncle Caine
"M.E. Mitchell" <me.mi...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:A7fw8.3182$t65....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
>
> >
> > society's antisexuality and its and her parents' failure to provide her
> > with an appropriate place for sex that she so clearly wanted, and
contra-
> > ception. In this day and age every ten year old knows what sexual abuse
> > is. She obviously didn't label it abuse, and she returned again and
again!
>
>
> Then that's like saying the men who were sexually abused as boys by
priests
> must have liked it because they returned again and again. How unfair of
> you to put the blame on the child.
>
"Thank God you got here in time, officer, this eight-year-old boy was about
to have his way with me!" - Mr Garrison in the NAMBLA episode of South Park
Uncle Caine
--
Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you
to keep your mouth shut.--Ernest Hemingway
drdoody
Oh well fuck me! I'm being flamed by a 12 year old.
What's the matter, darlin? Did Daddy forgo the KY again tonight?
As for being "an amateur moderator of an unmoderated group" goes...
The alt.tasteless FAQ has a neat little line in it that reads
something like this: "Encourage quality, discourage crap.".
In short, that makes every AT poster a moderator of the group if he,
she or it feels it necessary. If an At'er sees a post of the quality
(or lack thereof) that you and the afore-mentioned sloppy cunt tend to
spew, then he, she or it is obligated, for the good of the group, to
drag the offender into the bushes, rape them vigorously with the
cluebat (see: archives), tear out what is left of their battered
colon, nail it to a tree and chase them around with a flaming brand
until all their intestines have been spooled out. Of course, there is
probably more than one person out there wondering why I did not trim
my own headers when flaming greccocunt. I say to thee that I had to
make sure she got the flame because I am quite sure she does not
posess the mental capacity to read AT on a regular basis. Besides, if
my group is going to be invaded by unwanted shit, I would surely enjoy
returning the favor.
With that established, let us proceed.
I was wrong earlier. greccogirl is the *second* most glaring example
of internet idiocy that I have encountered. You really are a fucking
mouthbreather, aren't you? First, you insult (and I do use the term
very loosely) the hapless cunt, then you defend her? Against me? In my
home group?
You drooling, slack-jawed, useless, leperous, parasite-riddled,
hydrocephalic, gerbil abusing, shit-stained, mentally defective,
corpse felching, tard rimming squickvictim! You are beneath human.
You're not even a decent fucking invertebrate. You're just some
quasi-amusing protogrogan that managed to crawl onto the internet and
now seem bent upon leaving your steaming, barely-comprehensible piles
all over Usenet. Die cunt! Die!
Go gnaw on a fucking extention cord, you useless fuck. Make sure it's
plugged in. Get somebody to help you if you're not sure how to figure
that out. I'm sure that there will be no shortage of volunteers.
Better yet, ram your right hand up your ass till you feel a pulse,
grab it and pull hard.
Fuck, the dumbasses are getting thick in here.
Doc
A.Lizard
wrote:
>rst...@deeptht.armory.com (Richard Steven Walz) wrote in message news:<3cc22189$0$79560$8ee...@newsreader.tycho.net>...
>> In article <a050c062.02042...@posting.google.com>,
>> drdoody <drd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> -------------------
[snip]
>
>With that established, let us proceed.
>
>I was wrong earlier. greccogirl is the *second* most glaring example
>of internet idiocy that I have encountered. You really are a fucking
>mouthbreather, aren't you? First, you insult (and I do use the term
While I completely agree with your analysis of Richard, I don't
think you quite get his motivation.
I think Richard thinks that grecogirl is 12. Not unreasonable,
given her grasp of the English language, though grownup tard fits
equally well. It appears that he believes that a stirring defense
of her will enable him to sweep another piece of not-too-bright
jailbait into his arms.
Judging from his level of frustration as expressed in his post,
the woman he described recently as his "wife" and as a girl who
was a really "hot" 10 year old (based on last week's
observation?) has probably replaced him with a Barbie doll.
A.Lizard
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Uncle Caine <thatgu...@penis.hotmail.com (do a Bobbit to reply)> wrote:
>
>"M.E. Mitchell" <me.mi...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>news:A7fw8.3182$t65....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
>>
>> >
>> > The girl would have surely had to LIKE it, so the problem was this
>> > society's antisexuality and its and her parents' failure to provide her
>> > with an appropriate place for sex that she so clearly wanted, and
>contra-
>> > ception. In this day and age every ten year old knows what sexual abuse
>> > is. She obviously didn't label it abuse, and she returned again and
>again!
>>
>>
>> Then that's like saying the men who were sexually abused as boys by
>priests
>> must have liked it because they returned again and again. How unfair of
>> you to put the blame on the child.
>>
>
>"Thank God you got here in time, officer, this eight-year-old boy was about
>to have his way with me!" - Mr Garrison in the NAMBLA episode of South Park
>Uncle Caine
When I was NINE I would have if I could have!
Steve
Richard Steven Walz
drdoody <drd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>rst...@deeptht.armory.com (Richard Steven Walz) wrote in message
>news:<3cc22189$0$79560$8ee...@newsreader.tycho.net>...
>> In article <a050c062.02042...@posting.google.com>,
>> drdoody <drd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> -------------------
>> Just eat shit and die, Dr DooDoo!!
>> You're nuthin' but an amateur moderator of an unmoderated group.
>> You're a fucking phony, and a LOOOOOOOSER!!
>> Steve
>
>Oh well fuck me!
-------------------------------------
You're an asshole! Go away, loooooser!
Steve
Richard Steven Walz
A.Lizard <alizard[spam]@ecis.com> wrote:
>On 20 Apr 2002 23:12:30 -0700, drd...@hotmail.com (drdoody)
>wrote:
>>rst...@deeptht.armory.com (Richard Steven Walz) wrote in message
>>> drdoody <drd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>With that established, let us proceed.
-------------------------------------
Take your loser ass home, shit-for-brains!
Steve
Moufang Loop
Only a couple of years ago then?
ML
> Steve
>
>
Moufang Loop
Since she went back repeatedy, it's clear that she _did_ like it.
ML
Moufang Loop
There's nothing weird about anti-semitism It's perfectly sensible.
> We'll be along to bomb you later today sometime.
I know. That's all you do.
ML
> Steve
>
>
Richard Jackson
> In article <a050c062.02042...@posting.google.com>,
> drdoody <drd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >rst...@deeptht.armory.com (Richard Steven Walz) wrote in message
> >news:<3cc22189$0$79560$8ee...@newsreader.tycho.net>...
> >> In article <a050c062.02042...@posting.google.com>,
> >> drdoody <drd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> -------------------
> >> Just eat shit and die, Dr DooDoo!!
> >> You're nuthin' but an amateur moderator of an unmoderated group.
> >> You're a fucking phony, and a LOOOOOOOSER!!
> >> Steve
> >
> >Oh well fuck me!
> [Remainder deleted unread as unworthy]
> -------------------------------------
> You're an asshole! Go away, loooooser!
> Steve
It is obvious you are an expert in both assholes and losing, so
perhaps we should defer to your expert opinion.
--
Richard Jackson
Dragon
"Moufang Loop" <Moufan...@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:a9s1ou$g4m$1...@paris.btinternet.com...
>
> "Dragon" <drago...@leavemealoneyouidiots.tvsonline.net> wrote in message
> news:Qs7w8.2777$ZX4.13...@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com...
> > Steve: take note of where this is being cross-posted to.
> >
> > And think about this: most of the world considers a 10 year old to be a
> > child, no matter how sexually mature she may be.
> >
> > Dragon
>
the
> worst he can get!" being the "antisexual hysterical crap" that Steve said
it
> was.
>
> Even if the whole world considers a ten year old to be a child (and I
agree)
> that does not mean that being a child implies that one shouldn't be
involved
> in sex. Children eat, drink, walk, sleep,... and perform all the other
> natural functions that adults perform; why should they be denied the most
> pleasurable? If a ten year old girl is opening her legs for men there are
> obvious dangers one of wich is pregnancy. There is an equally obvious
> solution: the pill.
While I agree with the principal, I also know that most 10 year olds, even
"sexually mature" 10 year olds, do not have a clue what they are getting
into with sex - but I seriously doubt that a 75 year old male could say
that, unless he's completely senile. As for "spreading her legs", you don't
know that. Neither does anyone else. Nobody has heard word one from the
child involved in this, nor are they likely to for at least 8 more years -
which is plenty of time for CPS to brainwash her into believing she was
raped and it was all her parents fault, if that's what their goal is.
So what it comes down to is: grecogirl wants to railroad the guy to the
death chamber without even hearing his case, while the other side wants to
put him on a pedestal and make him an idol. I don't hold with either.
Particularly in view of the fact that 1. I'm not on the jury, and 2. I don't
have a clue what *really* happened between them, but I can easily imagine
scenarios that range from her being repeatedly raped and threatened with
death and dismemberment for herself, family members and pets if she told, to
her being a minature mata hari who seduced an old man who should have known
better, but couldn't resisit (though frankly, I find both those scenarios to
be highly unlikely - I suspect the truth lies somewhere in the middle).
In short, if you want to convict him or idolize him, I certainly won't stop
you. But I'm not going to be joining you either.
Dragon
Dragon
> > Interesting how you lot can read their minds.
> >
> > Especially in view of the slanted reporting and the complete abscense of
> any
> > explantion of why the child was removed from her parents custody, which
in
> > my mind raises a hell of a lot more questions that it answers.
> >
>
> Yes, I was wondering that. Kidnapping is a serious crime where I come
from.
Kidnapping is a serious crime everywhere, as far as I know - *except* when
it's a government agency doing it.
However, in this case, we also don't know that it was kidnapping. Not
enough information.
Dragon
Dragon
> In article <Qs7w8.2777$ZX4.13...@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>,
> Dragon <drago...@leavemealoneyouidiots.tvsonline.net> wrote:
> >Steve: take note of where this is being cross-posted to.
> >
> >And think about this: most of the world considers a 10 year old to be a
> >child, no matter how sexually mature she may be.
> >Dragon
> No, only Americans do that. Americans think everybody is like them.
> They're wrong.
True enough. But perhaps you could tell me where they consider a 10 year
old to be an adult?
12 year old, maybe. I haven't heard of anyplace that considers 10 year olds
adults, but I don't know a lot about African countries.
Dragon
Dragon
> In article <ou7w8.2781$dW4.13...@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>,
> Dragon <drago...@leavemealoneyouidiots.tvsonline.net> wrote:
> >A 75 year old man is *not* a kid.
> >
> >Did you miss that little fact?
> >Dragon
> ----------------------------------
> Nobody can get more fucked by a 75 year old than a 16 year old.
> The age factor is irrelevant.
> It just grosses out Americans because they have ENOUGH trouble just
feeling
> like SEX is normal, without imagining OLD people like their PARENTS doing
> it!! OR imagining fucking somebody their parent's or grandparents' age!!!
> To people for whom sex feels normal they look insane, and they are!!
> Steve
You seem to be fixated on the fact that I'm American. You're using that to
try to discount my arguments instead of answering them. It won't work.
And if you really think the age factor is irrelevant, I can only say that
it's obvious you have had next to nothing to do with children, and have no
memory of what it was like to be 10 years old versus being a 16 years old.
Dragon
brojack
>rst...@deeptht.armory.com (Richard Steven Walz) wrote:
>
>>In article <3CBF9C97...@warpnet.net>,
>>Chelo Felice <tr...@warpnet.net> wrote:
>>>Although I am sure this will get me labelled an... antisexual
>>>something-or-another, I
>>>do have to note that a 10-year-old who is physically/ sexually mature
>>>may not be
>>>mentally/ emotionally mature to deal with sex,
>>------------------------
>>That's nothing but a myth. Sex has been a characteristic of kids play since
>>our forbears were squirrels. There's nothing special in any way about
>>sexual play as long as the person wants it they are ready for it by
>>definition!
>
>Sex "play" has consequences that require adult judgment.
>Bringing new souls onto the planet is an enormous responsibility,
>and don't tell me that contraceptives work every time.
>A ten year-old needs to finish school for her sake,
>before being saddled with taking care of an infant.
>A 75 year-old man is exploiting a child's mind and future
>through her physical responses,
>and plenty of creepy scummy sleazeball emotionally-retarded
>loser assholes, such as yourself, think the case is closed if she
>happens to have enjoyed it. Wrong. Physical pleasure is meaningless
>without the context of a relationship that secures the future.
>Tell me how much you would have liked to have been born to a ten
>year-old mother in the fifth grade and a father in a nursing home.
>Idiot.
>You are desperately looking for rationalizations to justify having sex
>with a child, I suggest you grow up and let children grow up
>unmolested by the likes of you.
> Colin
Excellent response Colin, you've outdone yourself, but you're wasting
your breath if you're trying to convince Steve who is an advocate of
"consensual" adult-child sexual relations. As a child, he apparently
had satisfying, sexual relations with his grandfather. At least
that's what he conveyed to me in our many arguments on the matter.
Bro Jack
greccogirl
Colin wrote:
>
> rst...@deeptht.armory.com (Richard Steven Walz) wrote:
>
> >Nobody can get more fucked by a 75 year old than a 16 year old.
> >The age factor is irrelevant.
>
> Wrong. You who are so vacuous cannot know the
> emotional context of sex, you see it as a pleasure-event,
> "if it feels good it must be good"
> You do get more fucked by a seventy five year-old because of the
> tremendous inequity of experience. They can manipulate you far more
> craftily than a sixteen year-old. Whether the ten year-old "enjoyed"
> getting it from an old goat is not material to me, the mindset of the
> sleazy old bastard is, the sleazy old bastard with a criminal record,
> I might add.
> Colin
greccogirl
two grown sons. I have been on these newsgroups for at least a couple
of years.
greccogirl
Acetylcholinesterase Inhibitor wrote:
>
> greccogirl <grecc...@yahoo.com> writes:
> > Actually, you would be wrong. Steve knows I am pushing fifty and have
> > two grown sons. I have been on these newsgroups for at least a couple
> > of years.
>
> "These" newsgroups? Does that include alt.tasteless?
>
> Dale
> --
> I think our society needs more forms of potentially lethal
> entertainment that don't require an unusual degree of physical
> fitness. -- Mark Wood
Richard Steven Walz
Richard Steven Walz
Yes, she probably did. Sex is a lengthy complex procedure, after all,
requiring considerable effort and precision, and it takes a number of
times often, to succeed in pregnancy. And it feels wonderful, of course!
Steve
Richard Steven Walz
Moufang Loop <Moufan...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
>"Richard Steven Walz" <rst...@deeptht.armory.com> wrote in message
>news:3cc1eb1b$0$79553$8ee...@newsreader.tycho.net...
>> In article <a9sefa$kal$2...@paris.btinternet.com>,
>> Moufang Loop <Moufan...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >"Richard Steven Walz" <rst...@deeptht.armory.com> wrote in message
>> >news:3cc1ad36$0$79564$8ee...@newsreader.tycho.net...
>> >> ...
>> >> Ever seen one? They are adult-sized. My wife was 5'4" and 130 pounds at
>> >age
>> >> 10. Periods, hair all over(jewish), and B-cup tits.
>> >>
>> >
>> >Jewish ?! Why didnt you do the world a favour and slit her throat then?
>> >ML
>> ------------------------
>> Are you some weird anti-semite or something?
>
>There's nothing weird about anti-semitism It's perfectly sensible.
I'm also an anti-semite, but in me it is completely balanced as a view,
because I am also anti-musllim and anti-xtian. I see ALL religions that
come from the Torah/bible/Quran as evil and the enemy of humankind and
all humaneness. But then again I believe Jesus shared my belief.
Steve
Richard Steven Walz
But that's just it, NOBODY knows what they are getting into in their first
sexual experience, not personally. And the rest of it is known to kids
these days. Or it can be as quickly as they become interested.
> As for "spreading her legs", you don't
>know that. Neither does anyone else. Nobody has heard word one from the
>child involved in this, nor are they likely to for at least 8 more years -
>which is plenty of time for CPS to brainwash her into believing she was
>raped and it was all her parents fault, if that's what their goal is.
------------------------------
That's the goal of the whole antisexually sick society, it has nothing
whatsoever to do with CPS, particularly. Any supposedly "well-meaning"
adult in a position of authority will do the same thing unless they have
half a brain!!
>So what it comes down to is: grecogirl wants to railroad the guy to the
>death chamber without even hearing his case, while the other side wants to
>put him on a pedestal and make him an idol. I don't hold with either.
------------------------------
I have no interest in idolizing anyone. Just leave them the fuck alone
unless the girl is complaining. Like the Europeans now finally have enugh
good sense to do!
>Particularly in view of the fact that 1. I'm not on the jury, and 2. I don't
>have a clue what *really* happened between them, but I can easily imagine
>scenarios that range from her being repeatedly raped and threatened with
>death and dismemberment for herself, family members and pets if she told, to
>her being a minature mata hari who seduced an old man who should have known
>better, but couldn't resisit (though frankly, I find both those scenarios to
>be highly unlikely - I suspect the truth lies somewhere in the middle).
>
>In short, if you want to convict him or idolize him, I certainly won't stop
>you. But I'm not going to be joining you either.
>Dragon
-------------------------
Thanks for that.
Steve
Richard Steven Walz
Dragon <drago...@leavemealoneyouidiots.tvsonline.net> wrote:
>
>"Richard Steven Walz" <rst...@deeptht.armory.com> wrote in message
>news:3cc1a5c3$0$79562$8ee...@newsreader.tycho.net...
>> In article <Qs7w8.2777$ZX4.13...@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>,
>> Dragon <drago...@leavemealoneyouidiots.tvsonline.net> wrote:
>> >Steve: take note of where this is being cross-posted to.
>> >
>> >And think about this: most of the world considers a 10 year old to be a
>> >child, no matter how sexually mature she may be.
>> >Dragon
>> ---------------------------------
>> No, only Americans do that. Americans think everybody is like them.
>> They're wrong.
>
>True enough. But perhaps you could tell me where they consider a 10 year
>old to be an adult?
It's not that they consider them adults, but that they consider kids bright
enough to consent. That's true LOTS of places. Actually FEW places other
than western Xtianized colonies think that kids cannot consent, even though
they are kids. They would see that as just as ignorant as questioning
whether kids can consent to a softball game!! Since culturally they don't
coerce children or punish them, they have no problems with coercion of
consent either!!
>12 year old, maybe. I haven't heard of anyplace that considers 10 year olds
>adults, but I don't know a lot about African countries.
>Dragon
----------------------------
Again, it's not a matter of adult, but a matter of able to consent.
Native Americans did. So do many Africans, lots of Asians, especially
Thai's and Burmese and non-muslim Malaysians. So do Polynesians and
Australian aborigines.
Steve
Richard Steven Walz
Dragon <drago...@leavemealoneyouidiots.tvsonline.net> wrote:
>
>"Richard Steven Walz" <rst...@deeptht.armory.com> wrote in message
>news:3cc1a720$0$79557$8ee...@newsreader.tycho.net...
>> In article <ou7w8.2781$dW4.13...@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>,
>> Dragon <drago...@leavemealoneyouidiots.tvsonline.net> wrote:
>> >A 75 year old man is *not* a kid.
>> >
>> >Did you miss that little fact?
>> >Dragon
>> ----------------------------------
>> Nobody can get more fucked by a 75 year old than a 16 year old.
>> The age factor is irrelevant.
>> It just grosses out Americans because they have ENOUGH trouble just
>feeling
>> like SEX is normal, without imagining OLD people like their PARENTS doing
>> it!! OR imagining fucking somebody their parent's or grandparents' age!!!
>> To people for whom sex feels normal they look insane, and they are!!
>> Steve
>
>You seem to be fixated on the fact that I'm American. You're using that to
>try to discount my arguments instead of answering them. It won't work.
I don't care WHAT you are, I was giving a lecture to my audience!
>And if you really think the age factor is irrelevant, I can only say that
>it's obvious you have had next to nothing to do with children,
---------------------------------
I raised two kids, who are now 28-M and 25-F. What do YOU think?
Age of sexual introduction is only problematic if 1) the child is harmed to
that child's perception, and that requires either harm, or else 2) the
child having been TAUGHT that sex is harm and being unable to disbelieve
that despite pleasure. In a society where sex is not a questionable or
hidden activity, it is simply one more adult thing that children welcome
and feel flattered being let in on, viz the difference between the way boys
and girls are brainwashed to think of sex. Boys of 11 want to fuck the 35
year old women next door and would welcome her advances and keep her
secrets, but the girls next door have been brainwashed that if her husband
came onto them that they must demur and call the cops. This doesn't happen
because of any gender-based difference, but only because girls in the west
are victimized by a horrible self-denying antisexual ethic of shame. They
are taught by their mothers that they become human crud if they yield to
sex, while boys are taught they become heroes if they can obtain it by any
means necessary!!
> and have no
>memory of what it was like to be 10 years old versus being a 16 years old.
>Dragon
-------------------------------
I do indeed, I was much more horny by 16 than 10, but I remember both
degrees. I was licking the pussies of several neighborhood girls at age
11, and I was fully mature sexually then. At that time I had craved sex for
two years previously and would have accepted it from most anyone.
Of course by age 10 I was questioning and doubting every aspect of western
society! But I knew others who did the same by age 11.
Steve
Richard Steven Walz
>rst...@deeptht.armory.com (Richard Steven Walz) wrote:
>
>>In article <3CBF9C97...@warpnet.net>,
>>Chelo Felice <tr...@warpnet.net> wrote:
>>>Although I am sure this will get me labelled an... antisexual
>>>something-or-another, I
>>>do have to note that a 10-year-old who is physically/ sexually mature
>>>may not be
>>>mentally/ emotionally mature to deal with sex,
>>------------------------
>>That's nothing but a myth. Sex has been a characteristic of kids play since
>>our forbears were squirrels. There's nothing special in any way about
>>sexual play as long as the person wants it they are ready for it by
>>definition!
>
>Sex "play" has consequences that require adult judgment.
Not until they are pubescent.
>Bringing new souls onto the planet is an enormous responsibility,
------------------------------
If you're so stupid that you forgot about contraception and abortion.
>and don't tell me that contraceptives work every time.
---------------------------------
They very nearly do if they are used by kids taught by sex-friendly adults.
And abortion does in the VERY FEW cases where they do not.
>A ten year-old needs to finish school for her sake,
---------------------------------
A ten year old who is horny can't concentrate on school, especially not if
she is sexually horny early like that. Most drop-outs are simply more
sexually mature and can't stand the officious coercion and antisexual
situation in school.
>before being saddled with taking care of an infant.
----------------------------------------
As I said, that's unnecessary.
>A 75 year-old man is exploiting a child's mind and future
>through her physical responses,
--------------------------------------------
If she has physical responses then she's exploiting him too, it's called
fucking, get used to the idea.
>and plenty of creepy scummy sleazeball emotionally-retarded
>loser assholes, such as yourself, think the case is closed if she
>happens to have enjoyed it
---------------------------------
It IS!!
You're the vicious antihumane antisexual slack-jawed shit-fundy loser-prig
who can't stand anyone having a nice time!!
>Wrong. Physical pleasure is meaningless
>without the context of a relationship that secures the future.
-------------------------------
Nobody believes your old vicious bullshit oppression of humanity anymore!!
Nobody believes that pleasure is something they need some special
relationship for! NOBODY in the whole western world with a brain believes
that anymore, only fucking Amish-equivalent ass-backward shitheads who want
to drag humanity backwards into your old Medieval serf-fo-dah-lawd garbage!!
>Tell me how much you would have liked to have been born to a ten
>year-old mother in the fifth grade and a father in a nursing home.
----------------------------------
Irrelevant, that scenario only happens in dogshit antisexual society's like
yours, not in one like mine where she could have had a sex-friendly
upbringing and not settled desperately for furtive sex in a nursing home
without contraception as the only place she could GET FUCKED!!
>Idiot.
-----------------
You're the mindless fucking guilt-ridden fundy idiot!!
>You are desperately looking for rationalizations to justify having sex
>with a child,
--------------------------
I don't want sex WITH a child, I want to BE that child!
I STILL want sex with adults like I did when I was TEN!!!
> I suggest you grow up and let children grow up
>unmolested by the likes of you.
> Colin
-----------------------------------
Children aren't molested when they want it, and I know they DO!!!
BECAUSE I WAS ONE OF THEM!!
Steve
Richard Steven Walz
>rst...@deeptht.armory.com (Richard Steven Walz) wrote:
>
>>The age factor is irrelevant.
>
>emotional context of sex, you see it as a pleasure-event,
>"if it feels good it must be good"
And it is!! Why does this simple truth escape you?
Emotion is fine, but not necessary!
>You do get more fucked by a seventy five year-old because of the
>tremendous inequity of experience.
----------------------------
Older fucks aren't THAT good at sex, sex is not rocket-science.
And there's the disgust factor to weigh against it.
If a kid chooses someone that old it's a mercy-fuck or because
they can't find anyone else at the time.
>They can manipulate you far more craftily than a sixteen year-old.
--------------------------------
Hah! YOU haven't been a 14 Y/O girl gone parking lately!!
>Whether the ten year-old "enjoyed"
>getting it from an old goat is not material to me, the mindset of the
>sleazy old bastard is, the sleazy old bastard with a criminal record,
>I might add.
> Colin
------------------------------------
It doesn't matter what his record is, as long as she liked it!!
Crimes are only criminal if they make someone feel BAD!!
And only THEN if it is against their will!
You simply have been brainwashed with disgust for old people!!
And a particular disgust for conceptualizing them having sexual desires.
You're just an antisexual age-ist!
And you think sexual desire is "sleazy", which sane people do NOT!
Steve
Richard Steven Walz
If you truly believe that then you've gone insane or senile.
Steve
LINCARD 1000
>> Judging from his level of frustration as expressed in his post,
>> the woman he described recently as his "wife" and as a girl who
>> was a really "hot" 10 year old (based on last week's
>> observation?) has probably replaced him with a Barbie doll.
>>
>> A.Lizard
>
>Actually, you would be wrong. Steve knows I am pushing fifty and have
>two grown sons. I have been on these newsgroups for at least a couple
>of years.
After fixing your top-posting [might one kindly suggest you learn how
to use a news-reader program properly - are you sure you've been doign
this 2 years or more?], can I ask if either of your sons is attractive
and wants a fuck??
Hell, even if they're ugly I'd throw them a fuck... g'on, how about
posting some pictures of them nekkid and in a compromising position?
I wont show anyone else, honest... You'd be doing them a big favor in
life by allowing me to shove my turgid and throbbing cock deep into
their pulsating man-pussies... I bed they'd squeal like the little
bitches they are too... G'on, make a faceless internet freak with a
penchant for biologically obscene sexual practices happy, you know you
wanna...
LINCARD "you can have some of my turgid manwrecker(tm) too if you ask
nicely" 1000
-----
"I don't want to start any blasphemous rumours,
but I think that god's got a sick sense of humour.
And when I die, I expect to find him laughing..."
- Depeche Mode - Blasphemous Rumours.
-----
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~lincard
Richard Steven Walz
Acetylcholinesterase Inhibitor <wor...@theworld.com> wrote:
>"Uncle Caine" <thatgu...@hotmail.com> writes:
>> > Then that's like saying the men who were sexually abused as boys by priests
>> > must have liked it because they returned again and again. How unfair of
>> > you to put the blame on the child.
>>
>> "Thank God you got here in time, officer, this eight-year-old boy was about
>> to have his way with me!" - Mr Garrison in the NAMBLA episode of South Park
>
>scandal, it seems that a lot of the victims were 15 year old boys who
>returned to get blown again and again. It's hard to tell how to
>assess the situation, but it's not a simple case of criminal and
>victim, not by a long shot.
>
>Dale
-------------------------
Between the blowjobs and the pay offs it's called double dipping!
Steve
jay esss
Inn housecleaning staff, hoping that they'll let him stay an extra
night for free. Why? Because he lives in a filthy fucking box in the
alleyway outside Dairy Queen. Sometimes I walk by the box and piss all
over it and tell Mickey that it's raining. Then he comes out and I
beat in his skull with a garbage can lid.
LINCARD 1000 <lin...@spamilingus.com> wrote in message news:<ioc7cusavfq83r9l5...@4ax.com>...
chemwonk
"Jess" <jess...@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:eba8cu06mid3pm35h...@4ax.com...
> >Dunno about the other scandals, but in the current Boston priest-abuse
> >scandal, it seems that a lot of the victims were 15 year old boys who
> >returned to get blown again and again. It's hard to tell how to
> >assess the situation, but it's not a simple case of criminal and
> >victim, not by a long shot.
>
> returning -- as in the priest didn't go anywhere, but the kids came
> back after school, on Saturdays, whatever.
>
Same sort of thing I was referring to in my reply to Ace. These kids haven't
been completely brainwashed about their sexuality yet because it's still too
new to them. All they have to go on is the fact that it feels good when
someone, anyone sucks on his choad and licks up the creamy frosting. Only
after the brainwashing is well underway will they suddenly say "Oh my Glub!
I was **molested**".
noObT: Life's boring.
--
Chemwonk
"safely assumed to be carcinogenic"
Moufang Loop
"chemwonk" <chem...@computermail.net> wrote in message
news:mUWw8.76788$T%5.5...@atlpnn01.usenetserver.com...
And in the UK when the police are trawling for evidence, the so-called
"victims" are reminded that they can claim criminal injuries compensation.
You bet they'll say they were molested and anything else that they are
coached by the police to say.
ML
Moufang Loop
I used to think that all religions were just silly superstitions. Now I
think that many (including the three that you mentioned) are too dangerous
to be dismissed as silly.
ML
Moufang Loop
<Colin> wrote in message news:3cc58ad3...@news.mindspring.com...
> >The age factor is irrelevant.
>
> Wrong. You who are so vacuous cannot know the
> emotional context of sex, you see it as a pleasure-event,
> "if it feels good it must be good"
> craftily than a sixteen year-old. Whether the ten year-old "enjoyed"
> getting it from an old goat is not material to me, the mindset of the
> sleazy old bastard is, the sleazy old bastard with a criminal record,
> I might add.
> Colin
I don't see how "old goat" and "sleazy old bastard" contribute anything of
value.
ML
Moufang Loop
<Colin> wrote in message news:3cca8b8c...@news.mindspring.com...
> rst...@deeptht.armory.com (Richard Steven Walz) wrote:
>
>
> >Children aren't molested when they want it, and I know they DO!!!
> >BECAUSE I WAS ONE OF THEM!!
>
> You are one-track sex-obsessed.
> Ya don't see how bad yer hurting.
> You may think I am a prig, but let me tell you,
> I have as much fury at the exploitation by the rich,
> the senseless dulling of children's vitality in the schools,
> the shameless manipulation of the energy markets,
> the destruction of the biosphere as any one.
> I despise political correctness.
> I hate advertising.
Once, in another thread, I wrote something like "I'm getting to like you."
If you read it you were probably horrified. The six lines above shows I was
right. *That* is where you should direct your energy, Colin, leave those
who enjoy sex (even slighly unusual sex) to get on with it. Wish them well.
Cheers
ML
> And you still want sex "as a child" because you
> were stunted and arrested at an early age.
> The bastard who did you probably used the same arguments you use now.
> It's the old "sins of the fathers are visited upon the sons" trip.
> And you are blind to the wreckage.
> Sorry.
> Colin
Moufang Loop
<Colin> wrote in message news:3cc989df...@news.mindspring.com...
> "Moufang Loop" <Moufan...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
>
> >I don't see how "old goat" and "sleazy old bastard"
> >contribute anything of value.
>
> Imagine your ten year-old daughter who you have nurtured from
> the beginning to grow into a fine autonomous strong young woman,
> pregnant from the scurrilous sexual attentions of someone you never
If I had a ten year old daughter who was menstruating I'd teach her all
about contraception.
> met. There goes fifth grade. . . .
> That bastard would be dead in my book.
Come on Colin, you know that murder will not improve anything. Is that
really _you_ writing?
> And my daughter would be in therapy post haste.
That wouldn't help her. Not for nothing does "therapist" spell "the
rapist". They'd rape her mind. What for her had been fun would become
dirty and disgusting. She would not have a good sex life as an adult, _not_
because of the old goat (as you may wish to claim), but because of the
therapists. They are seriously evil. You and I have our views but we
cannot force them on anybody; therapists can, by hypnosis for example.
ML
> Colin
Moufang Loop
<Colin> wrote in message news:3cc5b82f...@news.mindspring.com...
> "Moufang Loop" <Moufan...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
>
> >If I had a ten year old daughter who was menstruating I'd teach her all
> >about contraception.
>
> intimacy. Those who don't know it, don't know what they are missing.
Contraception and intimacy are two different subjects. I'd hope to teach
her about both. One does't exclude the other.
>
> >> That bastard would be dead in my book.
> >
> >Come on Colin, you know that murder will not improve anything. Is that
> >really _you_ writing?
>
> That was the hypothetical conditional subjunctive tense.
> As a jurist, I would never consider the death penalty, ever,
> and in this case I would merely sentence that old man to paying
> restitution for her and placing him on lifetime probation with
> mandatory group therapy until he understands.
>
> >> And my daughter would be in therapy post haste.
> >
> >That wouldn't help her. Not for nothing does "therapist" spell "the
> >rapist". They'd rape her mind. What for her had been fun would become
> >dirty and disgusting. She would not have a good sex life as an adult,
_not_
> >because of the old goat (as you may wish to claim), but because of the
> >therapists. They are seriously evil. You and I have our views but we
> >cannot force them on anybody; therapists can, by hypnosis for example.
>
> I have counselled sexually abused children, and while
> I agree with you that there are many disastrous therapists out there,
> I also have experienced the beauty of true healing from the
> therapist's vantage point. I know the difference between a
> therapist on a power trip and a therapist who is called to heal
> out of sheer joy. There is a person on this planet who I had the
> indescribable honor of bringing her back to sex as a powerful
> affirmation of her gifts, instead of the shameful throwing away
> of her dignity to stave off loneliness.
> If this sounds like gobbledegook to you, I am not surprised.
> Colin
It doesn't sound like gobbledegook to me, Colin. I'm genuinely interested
in what you write even if I don't agree with it all. Not agreeing doesn't
mean having no understanding, ok?
Cheers
ML
Richard Steven Walz
Moufang Loop <Moufan...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
>"Richard Steven Walz" <rst...@deeptht.armory.com> wrote in message
>
>> ------------------------------------
>> I'm also an anti-semite, but in me it is completely balanced as a view,
>> because I am also anti-musllim and anti-xtian. I see ALL religions that
>> come from the Torah/bible/Quran as evil and the enemy of humankind and
>> all humaneness. But then again I believe Jesus shared my belief.
>> Steve
>
>I used to think that all religions were just silly superstitions. Now I
>think that many (including the three that you mentioned) are too dangerous
>to be dismissed as silly.
>ML
Precisely!
Steve
Richard Steven Walz
Meaningless knee-jerk hysterics, like yelling "Commie" or "Pedophile"!
Steve
Richard Steven Walz
>rst...@deeptht.armory.com (Richard Steven Walz) wrote:
>
>>enough to consent. That's true LOTS of places. Actually FEW places other
>>than western Xtianized colonies think that kids cannot consent, even though
>>they are kids. They would see that as just as ignorant as questioning
>>whether kids can consent to a softball game!!
>
>The emotional landscape of a child, even young adults, is full of
>hope, idealization, passionate highs and lows, and it is vulnerable
>to cynical adults, such as yourself, who are seeking only the pleasure
>principle, and who could care less about the person inside the child's
>body.
--------------------------
Which is why consent is all-important. The child has its own landscape of
decision to make which is quite different than yours. They want very
different things than you do, so their consent is absolutely required,
and whenever they say NO, the answer is NO, but when and for as long as
they say YES, the answer is YES. Kids ALSO seek THEIR pleasure!
>Hell, this happens enough with adults who are more aware,
------------------------------
And sex is not forbidden to THEM EITHER!!
>morning after blues can crush a child who still has to answer to mommy
>and daddy and go to school and learn how to interact with peers.
----------------------------------
This is why they should not be bullied or forced by adults for ANY reason!!
If the whole society stops because the kids don't want to BECOME THAT
society, then that fucking society deserves to be STOPPED!!!
>I know many bright children who can drive a car with some skill.
>They are not allowed to drive on the streets, however, until they are
>old enough to show judgment, emotional stability, and the ability to
>pay for the privilege of driving.
-----------------------------------
Paying being the operative word here. Actually kids are no more venal or
emotionally driven than adult drivers are, but adults prefer to THINK that
they are, as it thereby justifies the bullying and enslavement of children.
Actually there's no difference for a kid in an adult position, as drivers
of the third world can attest, versus an adult in an adult position. Plenty
of kids are trusted to drive even trucks in places, and they are quite
skilled! Kids have better eye-hand coordination than adults, and for a
longer work day!
>Sex is that much more powerful.
---------------------------------
Not if it isn't, and they have the right for it to serve their child-like
needs as well as we have the right to seek it for our supposedly adult
needs. All your rationalizations are nothing but western fundy lies about
some magical powerful sexual demon that Xtian bigots have invented. Actual
sex is quite mundane and pedestrian.
>You can't sell your new baby if it drives you to distraction.
-----------------------------------
Selling anyone has nothing whatsoever to do with sex, but with slavery!
>Your pathetic and self-serving rationalizations about other cultures
>does not bring to account the different context of an industrialized
>society in which we computer users live. A child needs freedom from
>your sort of imprisonment, the blighting theft of their possibilities.
> Colin
--------------------------------------
You have managed to oppose something you merely imagined, rather than
anything that *I* have promoted. I promote the child's absolute right to
say NO, but also to say YES! I promote the right of the child to change
their answer from YES to NO instantanenously and on a whim!
In countless other non-western cultures RIGHT NOW, children play at sex
with their friends, sexually fondle and are fondled by adults, and they
generally do whatever THEY want to do that another permits them to do
with them. This doesn't harm them in the least or imprison them in the
slightest.
You OBVIOUSLY decided that you couldn't respond to what *I* ACTUALLY said,
so you decided to say I had said something else so that you could respond
to it!! You fucking guilt-ridden fundy bigot!!
Steve
Steve
Richard Steven Walz
>rst...@deeptht.armory.com (Richard Steven Walz) wrote:
>
>>11, and I was fully mature sexually then. At that time I had craved sex for
>>two years previously and would have accepted it from most anyone.
>
--------------------------
Shitty little liar! If I don't know that my experience was NOT abusive,
then none of your little "victims" can know they were abused!!
>I can only guess that some old goat awakened you prematurely
>and shut down your spiritual and sexual growth,
>leaving you with a life-long sentence of
----------------------------------------------
Since THAT never happened, what will you want to try NEXT, you shitty
little liar!!
>"sex is only about pleasure" and
>" I obsess about it because it is all I know" and
>" I mistake that attention I got for love". . . .
-----------------------------------------------
Since none of those are true either, WHAT WILL YOU DO, you shitty little
liar!! YOU just can't HANDLE it that a loved child who wasn't guilted or
otherwise superstitonized about sex could want it simply because it's fun
and nice!!! You're incapable of feeling that either sex or your sexual
desires are normal and healthy things that can be as open as any other
aspect of life!!
>Craving sex at nine is indicative that someone stole your childhood.
------------------------------------------------
No, it isn't. It is indicative that my dick worked right and that I
wasn't guilted into believing I was "evil"!!
>And because it felt good, you are an empty proponent of yet more
>children being stolen blind in the name of "love.".
> Colin
--------------------------------------
Your problem is that you make up little imaginary scenarios in your head
that avoid like hell the truth that sex is simply fun and should be
available to everyone who wants it!! You're so unbelievably guilted that
the way many people live is unbelievable to you! You remind me of the
newly minted American missionary couple a few years back who saw adults
masturbating nursing infants to put them to sleep in west Afrika and tried
to report it as "child abuse". Of course everyone in that nation thought
that they were entirely insane, and locked them up for a while till the
American embassy could tell them that American notions weren't universal
and that they would simply be regarded as crazy and be imprisoned if they
did that again!! Throughout the third world Americans are ridiculed for
such things, often so horribly that nobody believes our missionaries and
aid workers about anything!
Steve
Richard Steven Walz
------------------------
No, that would be you!!
>Your conclusions are
>erroneous and definitely tinged with your agenda.
--------------------------
Since I don't crave sex with kids, what would that agenda be??
You see, you just can't BELIEVE that anyone would champion the
cause of freedom for children without wanting "something".
>If a seventyfive year-old man met a woman at the home
>and they decided to have one more go at happiness,
>I'd be as teary-eyed at the wedding as any one.
>Notice the difference in context, you moron.
> Colin
-----------------------------
That's irrelevant, you moron.
We're talking sex here, not marriage!
Steve
Richard Steven Walz
>"Moufang Loop" <Moufan...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I don't see how "old goat" and "sleazy old bastard"
>>contribute anything of value.
>
>Imagine your ten year-old daughter who you have nurtured from
>the beginning to grow into a fine autonomous strong young woman,
>pregnant from the scurrilous sexual attentions of someone you never
No, **IF** you nutured her fully she would have access to contraception
for her sex life as well as abortion if she wanted it, and if you raised
her properly SHE WOULD! So NO, there does NOT "go the fifth grade", since
her peers will be doing the very same things!
>That bastard would be dead in my book.
---------------------------------------
Then in a decent world you would be dragged to the curb and shot through
the head and your family would not mourn your death so much as your insanity!
>And my daughter would be in therapy post haste.
> Colin
------------------------------------
She doesn't need any such thing! Even NOW when parents ship their children
off for "therapy" for things regarding precocious pleasant sex, they discuss
instead their PARENTS' antisexual insanity and how to sidestep it, and NOT
anything wrong with THE KIDS!
But YOU don't even KNOW that, DO you, you ignorant asshole?
Steve
Richard Steven Walz
>You are one-track sex-obsessed.
I'm SOOOO sex obsessed that I had sex precisely once last week,
big whoop! Yeah, riiiiiiiight!!
>Ya don't see how bad yer hurting.
---------------------------------
By the time you're 52 and fundies you know are guilt-ridden as shit are
obviously crippled and in need of therapy and their children won't even
speak to them, and they're repentant but still drinking alcoholics, while
your attitudes about sex are relaxed and healthy and YOUR kids love you
dearly, and while these fools have been rattling on all your life trying
to tell you that you're somehow sick for liking sex, you realize fully
that they are just lying because they are horribly sexually neurotic, and
not because they know any "secret" about you that you just couldn't really
fathom!! ;->
>You may think I am a prig, but let me tell you,
------------------------------------
Why you're a complete LOON!!
>I have as much fury at the exploitation by the rich,
>the senseless dulling of children's vitality in the schools,
>the shameless manipulation of the energy markets,
>the destruction of the biosphere as any one.
>I despise political correctness.
>I hate advertising.
--------------------------------
Now you just need your sexuality fixed and you might be okay!
But let me tell you, you need a complete overhaul!!
>And you still want sex "as a child" because you
>were stunted and arrested at an early age.
-------------------------------
Nooooo, my dick started to stick out and wanted me to rub it and make it
cum a lot, and then I figured out from library books what girls were for.
Then I met a girl who wanted us to suck on each other and I was in heaven!
But I still wanted to fuck all the women in the church choir who were a
variety of ages, but all hot adults. None of them ever touched me, or said
a single sexual thing to me, but that was totally insane in and of itself,
and wouldn't be true in any TRULY sexually sane and decent society!!
That sex was absent from overt society was in and of itself a sign of the
very severest mental illness on the part of each and every member of
society! Now HOW did I know this? GOD told me this through my penis, you
moron!! ;-> Everyone HAS a direct route to GOD from their insides, but
society works hard to contradict the word of GOD!
God tells everyone that, but the vast majority are so guilted and abused
by their parents that when they are told that some OTHER "Gawd" hates sex,
they think they must surely be evil and/or crazy and hearing voices!!!
This whole type of society is totally CRAZY-MAKING!!
>The bastard who did you probably used the same arguments you use now.
-----------------------------
Nobody did ANYTHING to me, but I WISH TO GOD THAT THEY HAD!!!!!
>It's the old "sins of the fathers are visited upon the sons" trip.
>And you are blind to the wreckage.
>Sorry.
> Colin
-------------------------------
When confronted with things you don't want to understand a different way,
you merely invent whatever you need so that you don't have to learn
anything new. You have even invented a different early life for me so that
you don't have to change your mind!
Your antisexual sickness comes from extreme guilt and abuse!!
Steve
Richard Steven Walz
Moufang Loop <Moufan...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
><Colin> wrote in message news:3cc989df...@news.mindspring.com...
>
>about contraception.
You gonna finger her every day to find out when she starts?
You see, you need to start sex ed LONG before that!
We just let our kids see us fucking.
Makes things MUCH simpler.
They know what fucking IS and think it's totally normal long before
they know what it's FOR!
Then all they need is a brief biology!
>> met. There goes fifth grade. . . .
>> That bastard would be dead in my book.
>
>Come on Colin, you know that murder will not improve anything. Is that
>really _you_ writing?
---------------------------------
He's a 'caring Xtian", dontcha know!
>> And my daughter would be in therapy post haste.
>
>That wouldn't help her. Not for nothing does "therapist" spell "the
>rapist". They'd rape her mind. What for her had been fun would become
>dirty and disgusting. She would not have a good sex life as an adult, _not_
>because of the old goat (as you may wish to claim), but because of the
>therapists. They are seriously evil. You and I have our views but we
>cannot force them on anybody; therapists can, by hypnosis for example.
>ML
-------------------------------
Actually MOST therapists have enough sense to realize this culture is
insane about sex, and the therapy turns into coffee klatches on
side-stepping one's parents about this sexual stuff! Therapists aren't
crazier than their client families!!
Steve
Richard Steven Walz
>"Moufang Loop" <Moufan...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
>>*That* is where you should direct your energy, Colin, leave those
>>who enjoy sex (even slighly unusual sex) to get on with it. Wish them well.
>
>There is no way to divide the topic of exploitation
>and its ramifications.
> Colin
---------------------------------
Giving kids their sexual freedom is NOT exploitation!
Steve