My Memorial Day Prayer
Liberals' Worst Nightmare
gave us our freedom. I pray that you give our GIs the resolve to kill
our no. 1 enemy, the liberals.
Amen.
Salad
What god is your lord? Some puny piece of shit god or some god that
listens to insane folk like you...and Hagee...and Haggard...and
Foulwell...and Roberston?
Alan B. Mac Farlane
ghettos they are being put into at the point of a gun like they were Jews or
American Indians ...
liberals get killed later after Pat Robertson Speartip of God reaches out
and touches their ass last ... 700 Clubbers get it first he says.
The man talks for that Jealous God the Father who makes babies with His
daughters and manifest as talking fire, smoke, serpent staff, insects,
pestilence, bog creatures, darklight, and mass casuality child killing airs
so I am sure he knows wazzup. All hail the Beast 666.
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Rel...@home.net wrote on 5/25/08 8:04 PM:
Alan B. Mac Farlane
o...@vinegar.com wrote on 5/25/08 8:09 PM:
> What god is your lord?
They say he is a JEALOUS God the Father who makes babies with His daughters
and manifest as talking fire, smoke, serpent staff, insects, pestilence, bog
creatures, darklight, and mass casuality child killing airs.
All hail the God of the Serpent Staff ... you can run but you can not hide.
abelincoln
the type of god they claim to believe in....
astr...@yahoo.com
Haggard was a pretty light hearted guy, a hypocrite for sure but a
nice person. A friend of mine, a , male prostitute knew him pretty
well, he died of aids. I'm not gay or anything but I knew what was
happening on the streets.
Haggard used to have underage male prostitutes get in his car, I don't
know what they were doing, as far as I know he just took them out to
eat. As far as the other guys, Christan scumbags who divide Americans.
astr...@yahoo.com
Have some fucking respect for our military you fucking punk.
Also, the people gave us our freedoms, not killing in the middle east.
Nothing was just 'given'. But when it comes down to it, liberals are
the ones who secure YOUR freedoms, even though people like you are
incapable of
realizing and respecting that fact. In fact, people like you are the
enemy of freedoms.
GLOBAL CHICO
"Liberals' Worst Nightmare" <Rel...@home.net> wrote in message
news:483a28a9...@news.datemas.de...
Dear Lord, I know how much you love America and the American GIs who
gave Neocons their wars & blood money. I pray that you give our GIs the
resolve to kill
our no. 1 enemy, the conservaloons.
Amen.
Let It Roll
Looks like your post has all the left-wing girly-boys in a hissy fit.
Semper fi.
Alan B. Mac Farlane
bush...@whitehouse.com wrote on 5/25/08 8:38 PM:
> this actually says a lot about both the repugnant neocon assfuckers and
> the type of god they claim to believe in....
you are going to Hell, Hell, Hell and Die, Die, Die for not beleiver in the
Jealous God the Father who makes babies with His daughters and manifest as
talking fire, smoke, serpent staff, insects, pestilence, bog creatures,
darklight, and mass casuality child killing airs.
All Hail Moses and His Serpent Staff ... bow to the Ditto Heads.
Nobama
Actually, the liberals with their need to control and regulate every
aspect of our lives are the ones who deny our freedoms.
These new age liberals are 180 degree opposites from the classic
liberals who founded the US.
Moreover they despise the military and salivate at the thought of our
defeat against the Islamite terrorists.
They should all die.
Alan B. Mac Farlane
on 5/26/08 4:18 AM:
Ya ... Kill those Sand Niggers and put them into the Ghetto at the point of
a gun like they were Jews or Indians ... later they can make gambling houses
and work as a Wise Guy.
Nobama
No, just kill 'em.
That's what Bush should've done instead of trying to democratize 7th
century primitives.
Alan B. Mac Farlane
Better get a helmet, the Jonestown Nutters are under attack.
Red Rum Alert ... Jesus loves you, pass the ammo.
WE ALL GONNA DIEEEEE !!!! History will judge US !!!
Hanging Chads is sooo 15 minutes ago .... Kill Clinton/Obama and only have
Insane McCain to take office ... and have another 9/11 attack with a
mushroom cloud showing that the Irak Sand Nigger killing was justified.
Just you wait and see ... Bush is our Savior.
All hail Moses and His Serpent Staff.
sumbuddie wear blind sea
:)
David Hartung
What trash!
I sincerely hope that you don't claim to be a Christian, if you do, you
really need to learn more about your faith.
GLOBAL CHICO 2
"Nobama" <ha...@home.org> wrote in message
news:483aba76...@news.motzarella.org...
Or what, you won't get that job at the insane asylum?
David Hartung
I'm sorry, but you couldn't be more mistaken. The 21st century American
Liberal seems to live to put us under the dominion of the UN, that
single act alone would destroy our freedom.
It most certainly is the GI, laying his life on the line in the defense
of our nation, who secures our liberty.
Nobama
I bet you'll look fetching in your burkha and your black tent.
Mitchell Holman
K6dnVwVSMH7IKfV...@comcast.com:
> Liberals' Worst Nightmare wrote:
>> Dear Lord, I know how much you love America and the American GIs who
>> gave us our freedom. I pray that you give our GIs the resolve to kill
>> our no. 1 enemy, the liberals.
>
> What trash!
>
But how typical of the conservative mindset.
> I sincerely hope that you don't claim to be a Christian, if you do, you
> really need to learn more about your faith.
Tell that your fellow conservative Ogilvie.
Mitchell Holman
"Liberalism represents everything bad about humanity,
and those who embrace it deserve to be killed."
MF Ogilvie, compassionate conservative, 9/28/05
David Hartung
> David Hartung <d_ha...@comcast.net> wrote in news:-
> K6dnVwVSMH7IKfV...@comcast.com:
>
>> Liberals' Worst Nightmare wrote:
>>> Dear Lord, I know how much you love America and the American GIs who
>>> gave us our freedom. I pray that you give our GIs the resolve to kill
>>> our no. 1 enemy, the liberals.
>> What trash!
>>
>
>
> But how typical of the conservative mindset.
The truth is, I have seen more wishes of physical harm to opponents
coming from the left than from the right.
>> I sincerely hope that you don't claim to be a Christian, if you do, you
>> really need to learn more about your faith.
>
>
> Tell that your fellow conservative Ogilvie.
>
>
>
> Mitchell Holman
>
> "Liberalism represents everything bad about humanity,
> and those who embrace it deserve to be killed."
> MF Ogilvie, compassionate conservative, 9/28/05
Just out of curiosity, does Mr. Ogilvie claim to be Christian?
If so, the same applies to him.
Kevin Cunningham
wrote:
And you never, ever served. Coward. Chicken hawk.
By the way, our GI's want out of Iraq just a little bit more than the
American public. Word.
David Hartung
> On May 25, 11:04 pm, Rela...@home.net (Liberals' Worst Nightmare)
> wrote:
>> Dear Lord, I know how much you love America and the American GIs who
>> gave us our freedom. I pray that you give our GIs the resolve to kill
>> our no. 1 enemy, the liberals.
>>
>> Amen.
>
> And you never, ever served. Coward. Chicken hawk.
Just how do you know this?
Kevin Cunningham
> On Mon, 26 May 2008 03:04:15 GMT, Rela...@home.net (Liberals' Worst
>
> Nightmare) wrote:
> >Dear Lord, I know how much you love America and the American GIs who
> >gave us our freedom. I pray that you give our GIs the resolve to kill
> >our no. 1 enemy, the liberals.
>
> >Amen.
>
> Looks like your post has all the left-wing girly-boys in a hissy fit.
>
> Semper fi.
Another phoney heard from.
Mitchell Holman
> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> David Hartung <d_ha...@comcast.net> wrote in news:-
>> K6dnVwVSMH7IKfV...@comcast.com:
>>
>>> Liberals' Worst Nightmare wrote:
>>>> Dear Lord, I know how much you love America and the American GIs who
>>>> gave us our freedom. I pray that you give our GIs the resolve to kill
>>>> our no. 1 enemy, the liberals.
>>> What trash!
>>>
>>
>>
>> But how typical of the conservative mindset.
>
> The truth is, I have seen more wishes of physical harm to opponents
> coming from the left than from the right.
Rightwingers thrive on wars, invasions, bombings
and assassinations. Esp. the latter.
Mitchell Holman
"You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination,
but if Venezuelan president Chevez he thinks we're trying to
assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and
do it"
Republican Pat Robertson, Aug 21 2005, preaching the gospel.
David Hartung
> David Hartung <d_ha...@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:fKWdnWwDi4W5SqfV...@comcast.com:
>
>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> David Hartung <d_ha...@comcast.net> wrote in news:-
>>> K6dnVwVSMH7IKfV...@comcast.com:
>>>
>>>> Liberals' Worst Nightmare wrote:
>>>>> Dear Lord, I know how much you love America and the American GIs who
>>>>> gave us our freedom. I pray that you give our GIs the resolve to kill
>>>>> our no. 1 enemy, the liberals.
>>>> What trash!
>>>>
>>>
>>> But how typical of the conservative mindset.
>> The truth is, I have seen more wishes of physical harm to opponents
>> coming from the left than from the right.
>
>
>
> Rightwingers thrive on wars, invasions, bombings
> and assassinations. Esp. the latter.
I see, you may wish to review the postings in this forum, and learn some
history.
Nobama
I want them out too, to clear the way for nukes.
They should be home patrolling the borders.
Nobama
<Noe...@comcast.com> wrote:
> Rightwingers thrive on wars, invasions, bombings
>and assassinations. Esp. the latter.
The left prefers to appease.
They're all philosophical descendants of Neville Chamberlain who tried
to appease Hitler.
Thank Gawd hotter heads prevailed.
David Hartung
Exactly what justification do you have for "nuking" Iraq?
Liberals' Worst Nightmare
<Noe...@comcast.com> wrote:
> Rightwingers thrive on wars, invasions, bombings
>and assassinations. Esp. the latter.
They never taught you about Mao Zedong, Joe Stalin, Leon Trotsky, Ho
Chi Minh, Senor Fidel, Chou EnLai ....?????
Oh that's right ... in Self-Esteem Middle School, those guys
considered heroes.
Heh.
Mitchell Holman
> On Mon, 26 May 2008 10:59:07 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> <Noe...@comcast.com> wrote:
>
>> Rightwingers thrive on wars, invasions, bombings
>>and assassinations. Esp. the latter.
>
> The left prefers to appease.
>
> They're all philosophical descendants of Neville Chamberlain who tried
> to appease Hitler.
And what party did Chamberlain belong to?
Oh, yes - the CONSERVATIVE party.
You guys are not just ignorant of history
you are positively wallow in it........
Mitchell Holman
"For a century and a half now, America and Japan have formed
one of the great and enduring alliances of modern times."
George Bush, in a history lesson that omits the unpleasant
reality of Pearl Harbor, Hiroshima, and the whole Second
World War. 2/18/02.
Mitchell Holman
adnRodqfp_QqfVn...@comcast.com:
You mean the history of rightwing Christians calling
for the assassination of elected leaders abroad?
Must be one of those "What Jesus Would Do" things.....
Liberals' Worst Nightmare
<Noe...@comcast.com> wrote:
>nospam@nospam (Nobama) wrote in news:483ae410...@news.isp.com:
>
>> On Mon, 26 May 2008 10:59:07 -0500, Mitchell Holman
>> <Noe...@comcast.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Rightwingers thrive on wars, invasions, bombings
>>>and assassinations. Esp. the latter.
>>
>> The left prefers to appease.
>>
>> They're all philosophical descendants of Neville Chamberlain who tried
>> to appease Hitler.
>
>
> And what party did Chamberlain belong to?
>
> Oh, yes - the CONSERVATIVE party.
>
> You guys are not just ignorant of history
>you are positively wallow in it........
I don't care if back in the day they called it conservative, liberal,
whig, tory, or eskimo.
The point is that he was an appeasement pussy just like the American
left is today.
____________
David Hartung
What about the history of left wing despots who committed wholesale
genocide and murder. You know, like Stalin, Mao, Ho, and the like?
David Hartung
> nospam@nospam (Nobama) wrote in news:483ae410...@news.isp.com:
>
>> On Mon, 26 May 2008 10:59:07 -0500, Mitchell Holman
>> <Noe...@comcast.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Rightwingers thrive on wars, invasions, bombings
>>> and assassinations. Esp. the latter.
>> The left prefers to appease.
>>
>> They're all philosophical descendants of Neville Chamberlain who tried
>> to appease Hitler.
>
>
> And what party did Chamberlain belong to?
>
> Oh, yes - the CONSERVATIVE party.
Question, How does the philosophy of 1930s British conservatives compare
with that of American conservatives in the 21st century? Please be specific.
Mitchell Holman
If it is important to you why not look it up yourself
and tell us all about it?
> Please be specific.
>
Yes, do.
David Hartung
I have no interest. It was you who made the comparison. I was just
wondering if your opinion came from a position of knowledge.
Based upon your response, I suspect not.
Deaf Power
Bill Clinton is no Stalin.
Gary DeWaay
d_ha...@comcast.net David Hartung wisdom..
.
Conservatives today are not actually conservative about much?
Kinda why the term "neo-con" was coined. What IS conservative about
pre-emptive wars?
Alan B. Mac Farlane
wrote on 5/26/08 6:28 AM:
>
> No, just kill 'em.
>
> That's what Bush should've done instead of trying to democratize 7th
> century primitives.
well, the Idiot In Chief is making Ghettos for those Sand Niggers, and our
troops are dying for that ... not WMDS, not Imminent threats, not Mission
Accomplished. Bush is no Chesty Puller ... semper fi ... praise jesus and
pass the ammo. Bush will not kill those Sand Niggers like you want.
astr...@yahoo.com
Nobama wrote:
> On Sun, 25 May 2008 20:54:34 -0700 (PDT), astr...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Liberals' Worst Nightmare wrote:
> >> Dear Lord, I know how much you love America and the American GIs who
> >> gave us our freedom. I pray that you give our GIs the resolve to kill
> >> our no. 1 enemy, the liberals.
> >>
> >> Amen.
> >
> >Have some fucking respect for our military you fucking punk.
> >
> >Also, the people gave us our freedoms, not killing in the middle east.
> >Nothing was just 'given'. But when it comes down to it, liberals are
> >the ones who secure YOUR freedoms, even though people like you are
> >incapable of
> >realizing and respecting that fact. In fact, people like you are the
> >enemy of freedoms.
>
> Actually, the liberals with their need to control and regulate every
> aspect of our lives are the ones who deny our freedoms.
>
> These new age liberals are 180 degree opposites from the classic
> liberals who founded the US.
>
> Moreover they despise the military and salivate at the thought of our
> defeat against the Islamite terrorists.
>
> They should all die.
Look fagot bitch, we need a military, and more important than that we
need somebody who isn't a total fucking
idiot controlling the military. I think until YOU PEOPLE at least get
some competent idiots in there, then your 'hate the military' bullshit
doesn't mean fucking jack shit.
Right, bitch??
Oh and here is your Islamic terrorist fighter in action.
"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't
care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)
astr...@yahoo.com
Nobama wrote:
> On Mon, 26 May 2008 06:14:30 -0700, "Alan B. Mac Farlane"
> <al...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
> >in article 483a9c65...@news.newsguy.com, Let It Roll at here@home wrote
> >on 5/26/08 4:18 AM:
> >
> >> On Mon, 26 May 2008 03:04:15 GMT, Rel...@home.net (Liberals' Worst
> >> Nightmare) wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dear Lord, I know how much you love America and the American GIs who
> >>> gave us our freedom. I pray that you give our GIs the resolve to kill
> >>> our no. 1 enemy, the liberals.
> >>>
> >>> Amen.
> >>
> >> Looks like your post has all the left-wing girly-boys in a hissy fit.
> >>
> >> Semper fi.
> >
> >Ya ... Kill those Sand Niggers and put them into the Ghetto at the point of
> >a gun like they were Jews or Indians ... later they can make gambling houses
> >and work as a Wise Guy.
> >
>
> No, just kill 'em.
>
> That's what Bush should've done instead of trying to democratize 7th
> century primitives.
He should have went further than that and not been fucking with them
in the first place. Duhhhhh
Fucking idiots
astr...@yahoo.com
David Hartung wrote:
> Liberals' Worst Nightmare wrote:
> > Dear Lord, I know how much you love America and the American GIs who
> > gave us our freedom. I pray that you give our GIs the resolve to kill
> > our no. 1 enemy, the liberals.
>
> What trash!
>
> I sincerely hope that you don't claim to be a Christian, if you do, you
> really need to learn more about your faith.
I would likely be a Christan today, and A Republican for that matter,
but I could never get around the destructive mindset.
astr...@yahoo.com
I wish I could say Iraq was (is) just mission, but it's not. Every day
we stay there is another day we could have left.
Bush doesn't care what happens with it when we leave. He got taxpayer
money diverted for profit, the taxpayer money ride is almost over,
mission accomplished.
astr...@yahoo.com
Appease Bin Laden
astr...@yahoo.com
Liberals' Worst Nightmare wrote:
> On Mon, 26 May 2008 11:45:23 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> <Noe...@comcast.com> wrote:
>
> >nospam@nospam (Nobama) wrote in news:483ae410...@news.isp.com:
> >
> >> On Mon, 26 May 2008 10:59:07 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> >> <Noe...@comcast.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Rightwingers thrive on wars, invasions, bombings
> >>>and assassinations. Esp. the latter.
> >>
> >> The left prefers to appease.
> >>
> >> They're all philosophical descendants of Neville Chamberlain who tried
> >> to appease Hitler.
> >
> >
> > And what party did Chamberlain belong to?
> >
> > Oh, yes - the CONSERVATIVE party.
> >
> > You guys are not just ignorant of history
> >you are positively wallow in it........
>
> I don't care if back in the day they called it conservative, liberal,
> whig, tory, or eskimo.
>
> The point is that he was an appeasement pussy just like the American
> left is today.
>
Appease what who? When Obama said he would go into Syria and get
BinLaden and the entire right was whinging that he was going to start
world war 3, that he was too aggressive, duuhhh, but now it's he's an
appeaser. Yea just
repeat and believe what your handles tell you to think.
astr...@yahoo.com
Ok on one thread we have the the left-wing as total pacifist
appeasers, and have liberals as representing genocidal murders. Me
thinks the right merely stands against the left, but don't know where
the left stands, let alone where they stand.
astr...@yahoo.com
?Does this work
astr...@yahoo.com
That serve no logical working interests to the people.
astr...@yahoo.com
Nobama wrote:
> On Mon, 26 May 2008 10:59:07 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> <Noe...@comcast.com> wrote:
>
> > Rightwingers thrive on wars, invasions, bombings
> >and assassinations. Esp. the latter.
>
> The left prefers to appease.
>
mmmm, the right-wing handlers throw a word out and you idiots repeat
it without even knowing what the hell you are saying it for., duhhhh
Alan B. Mac Farlane
astr...@yahoo.com at astr...@yahoo.com wrote on 5/26/08 7:54 PM:
> "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't
> care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
> - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
Bush is our Savior, the annointed One ... praise Jesus and pass the ammo.
Kill those Irak Sand Niggers, put them in a ghetto like they were Jews or
American Indians. Our BRAVE TROOPS are dying for this praise Jesus.
You will got to HELL HELL HELL and DIE DIE DIE for saying that.
Bush is no Chesty Puller, he blew it, poor fella just could not take the
strain of the job. Must have been all that cocaine from Columbia ... Heroin
is real cheap now that Bush is in Afghanistan ... fly the loads right in.
Have to protect jobs you know. We have a war on.
All Hail Moses and His Serpent Staff.
May our Jealous God the Father who makes babies with His daughters and
manifest as talking fire, smoke, serpent staff, insects, pestilence, bog
creatures, darklight, and mass casuality child killing airs keep you safe
and unmolested.
sumbuddie wear blind sea
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Let It Roll
Bush isn't a terrorist fighter, dumbass; he wants to democratize them.
He should be nuking them.
Alan B. Mac Farlane
Bush is no Chesty Puller, No FDR, he would have killed all those Irak Sand
Niggers and not just put them into the Ghetto at the point of a gun like
they were Jews or American Indians.
Bush is a Foxed Up Dood, a Diaper Head, Jammy Turd for Brains, a baby poop
wall wiper ... he will Fox anything up. His mommy and daddy raised him that
way just like Paris Hilton.
Semper Fi, Praise Jesus and pass the ammo.
sumbuddie wear blind sea
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in article 483be35...@news.newsguy.com, Let It Roll at here@home wrote
on 5/27/08 3:32 AM:
Alan B. Mac Farlane
Subject: Journey Though Shame by Rokelle Lerner
This is a synopsis from the book 'Journey Though Shame' by Rokelle
Lerner. The book is much better then this series of notes...
CODEPENDENCE
A learned pattern of feelings, beliefs, and behaviours that make life
painful. This is a learned pattern, so therefore, it can be unlearned.
(One of the major tasks for us as adult children, is to learn and unlearn
many things. It can be done) A focus on people and things outside of
yourself to the point of self neglect and having very little identity.
Locus of control is outside of yourself, without the inner resources to
discern how you feel or how to behave in a given situation. You have to
look outside of yourself for definition and to find out how you are.
You do not have to be a child of an alcoholic (COA/ACA) to be codependent
-- any critical parent will do. If you were raised by shaming critical
parents you are most likely to display some codependent behaviours.
Codependency has much to do with shame because when you are ashamed as a
child , you become numb. You become unaware of your feelings, your
needs. When you internalize abusive messages very young you become
resigned to suffering and feel like you have no internal source of power.
You enter into abusive relationships and can develop compulsive
behaviours. This all happens as a result of shame and are also symptoms
of codependency.
The definition for an addict, is that an addict is a person who follows a
spiritual calling by going to the wrong address. It is a spiritual
illness that produces physical manifestations. What we want isnºt bad, we
are looking for wholeness and completeness, we just learn to knock on the
wrong doors to get it. The same with codependency. So COAs see both
addiction and codependency and choose one of the other, but not
consciously. The difference between compulsive behaviour and addiction,
is when people do some sort of compulsive behaviour they usually feel
worse afterwards, an addict will feel better (for a short time) there is a
big difference here.
SHAME:
Some people do not know what they want, they havenºt been intimate enough
with themselves to know what they would wish for if they could. This is a
direct result of shame. Many COAºs have disowned their dreams, disowned
their desires, this is a direct result of shame. It numbs the spirit,
numbs creativity, numbs self esteem. If you came from a shame based
family, you feel as if you are bad, as intelligent as you may be, when
shame takes over, you lose all objectivity. The bad thing is then, that
despair seems where you are so used to being.
Shame is a form of family violence, and it causes more human misery then
any other form of violence, probably because it is more socially
acceptable and not noticed as abuse.
Shame is at the root of compulsive behaviour and shame propels most
addictions.
Many of us carry things from childhood when we were belittled, humiliated
and have internalized those critical messages until we no longer need a
mother and a father around calling us names, we just give it to ourselves
and literally drown in our own criticism. We learn to treat ourselves the
way we were treated, others learn to treat us the way we treat ourselves,
so it is no coincidence that other people shame us - as we unconsciously
give them permission to.
We thing, if I could just get well enough, just lean enough, if I could
just get a little more peaceful, the rotten piece inside will go away.
The empty hole of blackness in our chests we try to fill from outside with
drugs, sex, religion, bigotry instead of filling that hole from inside
with ourselves and our higher power.
Part of the unpacking shame is to learn to attach some voices and faces to
those names that we call ourselves so that when we start to criticize
ourselves, ask yourself where did I learn to treat myself that way. You
can even call out to the inner shaming voice to identify it self to show
itself and it will scurry away - it is really scared. Give it love and
let it speak all it wants - then let it know that you are driving now and
thank them for keeping you alive in a very difficult situation - but life
is different now. You are in charge - not the inner voice.
Shame starts when we are very little and occurs when we allow ourselves to
love someone and our basic expectation of someone is exposed as wrong.
Example, when you run to dad for a hug and he tells you to get the hell
away from him, or he is busy. etc. When this happens again and again, it
is like someone with big scissors cut this interpersonal bridge that
exists between parent and child, it is a severance, a ripping of that
bridge.
There is a real difference between shame and guilt. When you have guilt,
it means your behaviour was wrong, when you have shame it means that you
are wrong. It means that somehow you are rotten to the core, deficient as
a human being, no matter what you do you will be rotten unless some
cataclysmic changes happen and the heavens part ! I am talking about
abusive using families where shame is the communication style.
SHAME OCCURS IN FAMILIES WHERE THERE ARE THREE CHARACTERISTICS:
Shame occurs in families where these is abuse, physical or emotional abuse.
Shame occurs in families where there is either physical or emotional
abandonment.
Shame occurs in families where there are enmeshments, where they donºt
know where one person ends and the other person begins.
Plus blaming, itºs your fault, leave me alone.
And keeping secrets, there is probably nothing that keeps kids more
alienated and shameful than when they have these secrets floating around.
When rules are used as teaching tools, but used to punish, to limit and
restrict, shame occurs. So when you get discipline, you think there is
something wrong with you, nobody separated the behaviour from the
person. When rules are used to guide and instruct they are then
principals.
Faulty realty checking, there are some kids that point the finder again
and again and nobody listens. So they think they must be crazy because
there perceptions are not validated by other people, so what they see
isnºt real. That is why COAs are compulsive note takers, because unless
they document it, it didnºt happen. Most abusive/using families are tight
and closed and nobody is talking about anything, kids canºt comment on
their reality, and it produces shame.
SHAME BASED FAMILY CLUB - Rules for membership.
The first rule is belonging to a shaming family is always having to do the
right thing, except that nobody ever quite tells you what the right thing
is.
Rule #2 - if it doesnºt go as planned, blame someone.
Rule #3 - always be in control, and if youºre not in control, use whatever
works, abuse, seduction, change the subject, donºt answer questions, be
helpful by meddling, what ever - just be in control.
Rule #4 - never talk about IT. You donºt talk about it so you wonºt be
blamed for it, even if you donºt even have a clue about what IT is.
Rule #5 - donºt expect accountability or consistency. If you are used to
getting your needs met every other Tuesday when the moon is full, if you
do not know what you have to do to get your needs met, it will produce a
kind of shame, that is why COAs do not pick people in relationships tat
are there day to day meeting our needs, that is boring.
Rule #6 - stay out of touch with your feelings, have absolutely no
emotional reality.
Rule #7 - above all else, DENY, DENY, DENY.
When you were shamed for your basic needs, to be touched, nurtured, to
exert your own power, to separate at some point from the family, shame
occurs. And COAs get shamed for separating. You feel you will lose the
love and attention of a parent who was never really there for you in the
first place, and the silver cord to your alcoholic family remains
forever. So we get shamed for wanting to be touched, shamed for our
needs. To be needy or have needs are the same, and for some of us to be
needy is the most loathsome, disgusting thing.
SO WHAT HAPPENS TO US WHEN WE DISOWN OUR NEEDS.
Itºs like you throw a part of yourself in the garbage. Itºs like I know
what YOU need, but I donºt have a clue as to what I need, and that is the
dynamic of shame.
We all have needs to be met and after a while it hurts so badly that we
have to act out in some way, we walk around in a trance not knowing what
we are doing and we alienate ourselves from our needs, it triggers denial
and we live unconsciously. Trance is OK for movies and TV but not OK in
relationships. It is not OK to have your feet planted firmly in the air
all the time. The problem here is intimacy, because we canºt connect with
someone who isnºt connected with themselves. And that is what happens
when you are shamed for your needs, you disconnect yourself and walk
around in a trance.
DEFENDING STRATEGIES
One defending strategy for shame is grandiosity, I have to be better then
the rest because if I am not better that the rest of you will see how
rotten I am.
Another is power, the more power I have the less shame I feel. So we try
to get in from money, jobs, position, etc.
Certainly overcontroling is a defending strategy. This is a big issue for
COAs.
Perfectionism is another defending strategy. COAs can not embrace their
humanness.
Certainly blaming, and ambition for people who say Ñdonºt see me as I am,
see me over here as I will become, or compare me with another worse
personæ
SHAME MANIFESTATIONS
Projection is a way shame manifests itself, i.e., I go to someone and say
Ñyou need a hugæ, when the reality is that I need the hug, to project our
own needs to others. As a presenter, if I have shame for my feelings, I
might say, theyºre out to get me, they are planning my demise in the back,
and what I am masking is my own feelings of contempt, but I am just
putting it onto someone else. Contempt could be thinly veiled rage.
We cover it up by conversion. If we were shamed for the need to be
touched, then we convert it into something more acceptable. Example, a
man comes home and wants to be just held, which is not acceptable, but he
comes home and says ÑIºm hornyæ, this is acceptable.
Shame is something that compels, it is the root of compulsive behaviour.
IF you were shamed for your feelings you become numb, gradually you
develop some defending strategies for shame, sometimes the only way to
feel again is some kind of compulsive ritual such as eating, shopping,
workalcoholism, gambling, sex, violence, intolerance (180 degrees from
sick is still sick), drug abuse, hiding in the bathroom. Compulsive
behaviour is the search for the self.
Impression management is another way shame manifests. You are constantly
trying to manage the impressions that other people have of you. You are
constantly giving a performance. For those of us who feel we have this
unseen audience which some people call the Ñcommitteeæ, that remarks on
our performance all day - sit up straight, gee - you blew that one, etc.
What we need to do is pull the blinds on the unseen audience, get them to
resign from doing a performance, to turn down the volume and get them off
the stage. This is another dynamic of shame and is called an inner
dialogue disorder.
THE JOURNEY THOUGH SHAME
The therapeutic relationship is the catalyst through shame, the
relationship that you develop with another human being defuses shame.
When people are treated differently, shame starts to deminish, when you
start to establish a deep relationship with another human being, and you
know they will be there for you no matter what you show them, that does
more to unpack shame then anything else. A connection with another human
being, whether it is a therapist, a good friend, or a recovery buddy, does
more to repair that interpersonal bridge severed as a child then anything.
Confrontation doesnºt work with shameful people. What does work
effectively is being ourselves, and giving ourselves new sensitized
messages. Teach people to repair themselves, and give them these
internalized sensitive messages either thought guided imagery, that royal
road to the unconscious that we all have.
PURPOSE OF AFFIRMATIONS
A story about someone who was plagued with this inner dialogue disorder.
She couldnºt be alone, she had to busy herself all day and all night. All
you do is play thoughts over and over in your mind so that you have no
room to feel. This woman was so busy because whenever she would slow
down, certain compulsive disorders called frenetic activity, which just
meant that she could not be alone. She was getting physically and
emotionally ill. One day on the way home from work she had no place to go
and nothing to do, and those inner tapes started to play.
Things that told her - youºll always be alone - you are so sick - I donºt
know why anybody would want to be with you - you are going to be alone for
the rest of your life - you are just no damn good. Those messages
paralyzed her, she had to pull over to the side of the road, and she cried
and cried, she just couldnºt move. At that point, things changed for her,
because then she had to do what her therapist told her to do, which was to
substitute those negative words and thoughts with positive affirmations -
repeated again and again like the shame statements were repeated again and
again - like a mantra (Hindu for Ñmind toolæ).
We just canºt get rid of these messages, we have to replace them with
something. You have to look at yourself in the mirror everyday and say to
yourself things like ÑI will be with meæ, because she had abandoned
herself. ÑI will always be with me and I will never abandon myself again,
ever, I will be with me for the rest of my life.æ This is where the
purpose of affirmations was not to make something true, but to wake up and
celebrate the reality. To wake up, that is what affirmations can do.
CULTURAL MYTHS
Myths (systems of knowledge) we learn from our culture. A favorite fairy
tale is usually a personºs script. Here are some fairy tales that are
stories of codependency.
Cinderella - She was shamed as a little girl, she resigned herself to
drudgery and suffering in servitude, she has no internal source of power,
waits to be rescued and who does she pick? Some goof ball who forgets to
get her name and address, who want so marry her before he knows her and
doesnºt have the decency to come himself, he sends some errand boy to see
if the shoe fits.
Snow White - About a woman was banished by her alcoholic stepmother (I
mean who else would stand in front of a mirror and talk to herself all
day) and what does Snow White do ? She sets out and focuses herself on
some small little men, each with a flaw, gets poisoned into a near death
experience and wakes up to a necrophelic French kissing her and says Ñlets
get marriedæ.
The Emperorºs New Cloths - Simply a story about delusions and denial,
where this kind deludes this whole town into thinking heºs wearing this
gorgeous rode when he is wearing nothing. Then this little kid who sees
what is going on, trys to tell people, and he is hushed and nobody listens
to the accurate observations. Children are not to be trusted is the story
line, and high politicians try to fool the people all the time with tax
cuts to the rich, corporate welfare is good, while families go begging in
the streets for food.
This is what we get for reading these stories to our children and the
disease is passed from generation to generation.
Permission to reprint in the recovery fellowship.
Alan B. Mac Farlane
> "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't
> care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
> - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
Hitler as Religious Leader
S ince Hitler saw himself as a Messiah with a divine mission to save
Germany from the
incarnate evil of "International Jewry," it is not surprising that he
likened himself to Jesus.
On one occasion during the 1920s, as he lashed about him with the whip
he habitually
carried, he said that "in driving out the Jews, I remind myself of Jesus in
the temple." At another
time he said, "Just like Christ, I have a duty to my own people...."
At a Christmas celebration in 1926 he thought it appropriate to compare his
own historical
importance favorably with that of Jesus. Christ had changed the dating of
history; so would
Hitler, for his final victory over the Jews would mark the beginning of a
new age in the history of
the world. "What Christ began," he observed, he, Hitler, "would complete."
And in a speech on
10 February 1933 he parodied the Lord's Prayer in promising that under him a
new kingdom
would come on earth, and that his would be "the power and the glory, Amen."
He added that if
he did not fulfill his mission, "you should then crucify me."
He liked to remind his followers that a turning point in his life came in
1919, when he undertook
his mission. He told an aide that during the preceding autumn, as he lay
wounded in a military
hospital, he had received a supernatural vision which commanded him to save
Germany. And
through the years he came back repeatedly to stress the importance of the
year 1919. In a
speech to the commanding generals of the Wehrmacht on 23 November 1939, he
began two
paragraphs with the same idea:
When I began my political work in 1919 I based it....
The first resolution was made in 1919 when, after long internal
struggles, I became
a politician and took up the battle against my enemy.
Manifestly the date was important to Hitler. He was at that time 30 years
old -- the same age
another Messiah is reported to have begun his mission to save mankind.
That he saw himself as the special agent of God and identified with Him was
made manifest on
many occasions:
I go the way that Providence dictates for me with all the assurance of
a
sleepwalker.
-- Speech of 14 March 1936, Munich
God has created this people and is has grown according to His will. And
according
to our will [nach unserem Willen] it shall remain and never shall it
pass away.
-- Speech of 31 July 1937, Breslau
I believe that it was God's will that from here [Austria] a boy was
sent into the
Reich and that he grew up to become the leader of the nation.
-- Speech of 9 April 1938, Vienna
Hitler did not like to be told that the ways of God were not always revealed
to him. On one
occasion an aide noted that "God does not let people look at the cards He
holds" [Der liebe
Gott Lasst sich nicht in seine Karten sehen]. Hitler immediately broke forth
into such a
paroxysm of fury that he himself feared a heart attack. He gave orders that
the aide never repeat
the offensive phrase.
The feeling that he was being specially guided from on high grew more
intense through the years.
On 16 September 1935 he said, "What was denied to millions of men was given
to us by
Providence, and our work will be still remembered by the last members of
posterity." In a speech
in his hometown of Linz, 12 March 1938: "When I once departed from this
city, I carried with
me the very same confession of faith that fills me today ... If Providence
once then called me from
out of this city ... then Providence must thereby have given me a
mission...."
His convictions were reinforced by miraculous escapes from assassination.
After the failure of the
bomb plot of 20 July 1944 he told a naval aide, "How the Almighty has stayed
their [assassins']
hands once more. Don't you agree that I should consider it as a nod of Fate
that it intends to
preserve me for my assigned task." His valet remembers that Hitler was very
calm, saying, "That
is new proof that I have been selected from among other men by Providence to
lead greater
Germany to victory." And again, "Because I have been saved while others had
to die, it is clearer
than ever that the fate of Germany lies in my hands."
His version of human history was essentially one of religious mythology. He
believed that a pure
German people had lived in an early Garden of Eden. But this pure race had
been attacked by
the Devil, made incarnate in the form of the Jew. Indeed, he said explicitly
that "the Jew is the
personification of the Devil and of all evil." And thus he reached his
conclusion that in fighting the
Devil he was doing the work of Almighty God. In Hitler's theology, a
different original sin
replaced the once committed in the biblical Garden of Eden. "The mixture of
the races is the
original sin [Erdsunde] of this world," he claimed. "The sins against blood
and race are the
original sins of the world." He thought of World War II in eschatological
terms, and saw himself
as the commander of the forces of good standing at Armageddon and battling
the forces of
Satan. "Often it seems to me as if we are all being tested by the Devil and
Satan, and we must
pass through Hell together until we finally obtain ultimate victory."
He did not view the Party and the Reich merely as secular organizations. "I
consider those who
establish or destroy religion much greater than those who establish a State,
to say nothing of
founding a Party," he had written in Mein Kampf. And years later he told his
followers, "We are
not a movement, rather we are a religion."
The institutional pattern he used for creating his New Order was the Roman
Catholic Church,
which had so greatly impressed him. As a boy he had dreamed of being an
abbot. When he
became Fuhrer, however, he raised his sights and saw himself as a political
Pope with an
apostolic succession. He announced to a closed meeting of the faithful in
the Brown House
during 1930: "I hereby set forth for myself and my successors in the
leadership of the Party the
claim of political infallibility. I hope the world will grow as accustomed
to that claim as it has to
the claim of the Holy Father."
He also fancied himself as a religious leader of the non-Christian world he
planned to conquer.
"I'm going to become a religious figure. Soon I'll be the great chief of the
Tartars. Already Arabs
and Moroccans are mingling my name with their prayers."
Hitler saw striking parallels between his Ministry of Propaganda and
Enlightenment and the
Church's Congregation for the Propaganda of the Faith (Congregatio de
Propaganda Fide).
He remarked that his task was not to communicate knowledge "but holy
conviction and
unconditional faith." He viewed the 25 articles of his Party as "the dogma
of our faith" and the
"rock" upon which the Party was built. Hitler's proclamation of the
"Thousand Year Reich" has
religious resonance. He was also fond of speaking of the "inseparable
Trinity" of State,
Movement, and Volk. As the sign and symbol of his movement Hitler chose a
special type of
cross, and personally modified the design of this Hakenkreuz.
The colossal Assembly Hall planned for his new capital of Germania should be
seen as a secular
cathedral rather than a civic building. The dome was to be large enough to
encompass the Dome
of St. Peter's seven times -- a favorite number. As Albert Speer has noted,
"It was basically a
hall of worship ... without such cult significance the motivation for
Hitler's main structure would
have been senseless and unintelligible."
In reminiscing about the institutions and ideas that had influenced him,
Hitler said that he had
learned a great deal from Marxist terrorism, from the Protocols of the
Elders of Zion, and from
the Freemasons. But, he concluded, "Above all, I have learned from the
Jesuit order." Certainly
the oath of direct obedience to the Fuhrer was strikingly reminiscent of the
special oath that
Jesuits swear to the Pope. Moreover, Hitler spoke of his elite SS, who wore
the sacred symbol
and dressed in black, as his Society of Jesus. He also ordered SS officers
to study the Spiritual
Exercises of Ignatius of Loyola for training in the rigid discipline of the
faith.
The close parallel between commitment to God and the sacred oath of
allegiance to Hitler is seen
in a description of public oath-taking recorded in the Nazi newspaper
Westdeutscher
Beobachter:
Yesterday witnessed the profession of the religion of the blood in all
its imposing
reality ... whoever has sworn his oath of allegiance to Hitler has
pledged himself
unto death to this sublime idea.
The bolts of excommunication and anathema which Hitler hurled against
nonbelievers and
heretics were not unlike those of a Gregory VII:
Woe to them who do not believe. These people have sinned ... sinned
against all of
life ... it is a miracle of faith that Germany has been saved. Today
more than ever it
is the duty of the Party to remember this National Socialist confession
of faith
[Glaubensbekenntnis] and to bear it forward as our holy [heiliges] sign
of our
battle and our victory.
The Nazis, like the Catholics, had their prophets, saints, and martyrs. The
Fuhrer sanctified his
disciples who fell during the Beer Hall Putsch when he said, in dedicating
their memorial, that
their death would bring forth "a true belief in the resurrection of their
people ... the blood that
they shed becomes the baptismal water of the Third Reich."
Hitler's holy reliquary was the Brown House, containing the sacred Blood
Flag which had been
borne by the martyrs of 9 November 1923. It was Hitler and Hitler alone who
could perform the
priestly ritual of touching the Blood Flag to the standards of the Brown
Shirts.
Hitler substituted Nazi high holy days for traditional religious holidays.
The Nazi holidays included
30 January, the day he came to power in the year he referred to as "the holy
year of our Lord
1933," and 20 April, his own birthday and the day when the Hitler Youth were
confirmed in their
faith. The holiest day, and the one which served as a kind of Nazi Good
Friday, was 9
November, celebrated as the Blood Witness [Blutzeuge] of the movement.
Hitler also provided the holy scriptures for his new religion and Mein
Kampf, instead of the
Bible, took the place of honor in the homes of thousands of German families.
With a lack of
humor typical of the regime, the Nazis chose this title to replace the
prayer book as the
appropriate wedding gift for young couples.
The parallel between Hitler and the Messiah was made explicit in German
schools. On 16 March
1934 children wrote out the following dictation approved by Hitler's
Ministry of Enlightenment
and Propaganda:
Jesus and Hitler. As Jesus freed men from sin and Hell, so Hitler freed
the German
people from destruction. Jesus and Hitler were persecuted, but while
Jesus was
crucified Hitler was raised to the Chancellorship ... Jesus strove for
Heaven, Hitler
for the German earth.
The League of German Girls developed a new version of the Lord's Prayer
which was a
supplication not only for the Fuhrer but to him as a deity:
Adolf Hitler, you are our great Leader. Thy name makes the enemy
tremble. They
Third Reich comes, thy will alone is law upon earth. Let us hear daily
thy voice and
order us by thy leadership for we will obey to the end even with our
lives. We
praise thee! Heil Hitler!
And smaller children were taught to use this grace before meals:
Fuhrer, my Fuhrer, sent to me from God, protect and maintain me
throughout my
life. Thou who hast saved Germany from deepest need, I thank thee today
for my
daily bread. Remain at my side and never leave me, Fuhrer, my Fuhrer,
my faith,
my light. Heil my Fuhrer!
Hitler's disciples seem to have been less successful in their efforts to
popularize these new words
for the favority Christmas hymn of the German people:
Silent night! Holy night!
All is calm. All is bright.
Only the Chancellor steadfast in fight
Watches o'er Germany by day and by night
Always caring for us.
Silent night! Holy night!
All is calm. All is bright.
Adolf Hitler is Germany's wealth,
Brings us greatness, favor and health.
Oh, give us Germans all power!
In public speech and private soliloquy, and in ways in which he may not have
been aware, Hitler
himself spoke the very words of Christ and the scriptures. In talking to his
Brown Shirts on 30
January 1936 he echoed the words of Jesus to his disciples as recorded in
St. John's Gospel,
saying, "I have come to know thee. Who thou art, thou art through me and all
I am through thee."
He reminded one of his disciples that "I have come to Germany not to bring
peace but a sword."
In public speech in Graz in 1938 he used the words of Jesus as recorded by
Matthew when he
announced that Almighty God had created the Nation, "and what the Lord has
joined together let
not Main set asunder."
He was particularly prone to Biblical quotations when talking to his Hitler
Youth. On 5
September 1934 he told them, "You are flesh of our flesh and blood of our
blood." In 1932 he
advised them either to be "hot or cold, but lukewarm should be damned and
spewed from your
mouth." The phrasing is too close to the New Testament to be coincidental.
The Book of
Revelations (3:15-16) reads:
I know thy words. Thou art neither cold nor hot; I would thou wert cold
or hot. So
then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew
thee out of
my mouth.
He was fond of calling for a faith that could move mountains, saying on 31
January 1935, "If you
had not had faith, who could have led thee? Faith can remove mountains, can
free also nations."
And in May of the same year, speaking about faith, he reminded the faithful,
"It is the strength
which in the end can remove mountains of resistance!"
During one of his last suppers with his followers when he invited them to
partake of their
Leader's body by eating blood sausage made from his own blood, was he not
saying, "Take, eat:
this is my body which is broken for you..."?
Alan B. Mac Farlane
Rel...@home.net wrote on 5/25/08 8:04 PM:
> Dear Lord, I know how much you love America and the American GIs who
> gave us our freedom. I pray that you give our GIs the resolve to kill
> our no. 1 enemy, the liberals.
>
> Amen.
(op ed, remember folks, this is all from a person stuck in their toddler
tantrum as they did not have the love, instead were raised in fear, so this
happens. Drink your Jonestown NNutters Koolaid and all will be well,
instead of making you ill.)
EIGHT RULES FOR SHAME BOUND RELATIONSHIPS
1. CONTROL. To be in control of all behaviour and interaction. If you
fear you're going to loose yourself realize that you have to be in
control. When you meet someone who has to be center stage or the star
know that this is an undeveloped self.
2. PERFECTIONISM. Do it perfectly. Do it right. An attachment to
perfectionism leads one into hypercriticality, comparisions and
competition all of which can leave one isolated, disconnected and cut
off. There are two gears for people in their disease - perfect and f**k
it. Understand that there are whole universe of gears between those two
extremes.
3. BLAME. Blame someone ! If something surprising happens, upsetting
the person, blame someone. If comething unpredictable happens, blame
someone else. It is never your falut. If you hear a lot of blaming you
know that person is stuck in the family and feels powerless and hopeless.
Oops Gingrich is a good recent example of this acting out.
4. DENIAL Deny all feelings of lonliness, vulnerability, sadness,
jealousness, needyness, emptyness, grief, and of course all other
feelings.
5. UNRELIABILITIY Don't expect reliability. Don't expect constancy.
Expect mood changes.
6. INCOMPLETENESS. Don't complete transactions. Stuff disagreements and
don't work them through.
7. DON'T TALK.
8. DISQUALIFICATION Discount your personal experience. When
disrespective, abusive, and compulsive behaviours occur, pretend they
aren't or did not happen. Ignore life, stay in ignorance.
The message of these rules is I'M NOT GOING TO LET ME KNOW ME AND I'M ALSO
NOT GOING TO LET YOU KNOW ME.
YOU CAN BREAK THESE RULES OF SHAME. YOU CAN BE FREE TO LOVE AND CARE.
YOU CAN COMMENT ON YOUR REALITY WITHOUT HAVING TO DISQUALIFY YOURSELF. TO
BREAK THE RULES - LIVE PRINCIPALS.
anonymous
Alan B. Mac Farlane
Rel...@home.net wrote on 5/25/08 8:04 PM:
> Dear Lord, I know how much you love America and the American GIs who
> gave us our freedom. I pray that you give our GIs the resolve to kill
> our no. 1 enemy, the liberals.
>
> Amen.
You know you are a bible thumper when:
10) The words "You are a Bible Thumper" gives you an urge to throw your
bible in the face of the person who said that.
9) You believe the world is flat and the Sun revolves around the Earth.
(Never mind the fact that ancient Egyptians, ancient Chinese, and ancient
Myans KNEW the world was round and revolved around the sun. For those
still in the dark ages, those times were BEFORE the advent of Christianity)
8) When you pay money to the Christian Coalition and the only thing you
get is a T-shirt and corrupt politicians, and then you don't complain!
7) You actually believe everything Newt and Rush says and does! (No
wonder THEY were against healthcare for everyone. If they were the ones
going to the doctors, they would told to lose at least 100 lbs. each!)
6) The only words out of your mouths in any argument with anybody
intelligent (such as a non-Bible thumper) are "bible", "scriptures",
"holier than thou", "God says", and "I'll convert you."
5) You say "I lead my life according to the bible" yet you are
judgmental, hateful of others that don't share your views, and get divorced
and then get remarried (Much likeReagan and Newt)
4) You NEED something like the "Promise Keepers" to tell YOU how to act
"like a man." (What gets me is that you have to PAY someone to tell you how
to act "like a man." Give ME your money and I'll say to you, "You are a
moron" and get on with my life. Much like what so-called Christian Jim
Bakker did!)
3) You actually believe God has an interest in EVERYTHING you say and do.
(If there is a God, I'm sure he/she/it has a lot better things to do than
to take an interest in EVERYTHING you do. Even with all his/her/its
administrative assistants, St. Peter and the like, I'm sure God as better
things to do than to care if you buy the blue shirt or the white shirt!)
2) You want to blame the world's problems on EVERYBODY and anybody else
but it is NEVER your own fault or your own problem. Your ONLY solution is
for THEM to find YOUR God or some gibberish like that.
1) Visions of lions eating a Christian haunt you every day but you are safe
as you know the secret hand shakes and decoder rings to the inner sanctum.
David Hartung
Unfortunately, the behavior of the Church often leaves us open to the
sort of warped accusations we see in this post.
The simple truth is that if the world were to actually live the
"Christian" life style, we would be much better off.
Remember, the Law is summed up in two commandments:
"Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and
with all your mind." (Matt 22:36)
The second: "Love your neighbor as yourself". (Matt 22:39)
If our world were to appley these two commandments. If we were to only
apply the second, the world would be a much better place.
Nobama
<d_ha...@comcast.net> wrote:
>The second: "Love your neighbor as yourself". (Matt 22:39)
>
>If our world were to appley these two commandments. If we were to only
>apply the second, the world would be a much better place.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you is a pretty good one
too.
David Hartung
True.
cal
On 06/24/08 9:37 AM, in article
nNidnamZG9wNZf3V...@comcast.com, "David Hartung"
<d_ha...@comcast.net> wrote:
then it's the behavior of the church that's warped, not the accusations.
Alan B. Mac Farlane
d_ha...@comcast.net wrote on 6/24/08 6:37 AM:
>
> If our world were to appley these two commandments. If we were to only
> apply the second, the world would be a much better place.
The Toddler Tantrum is never able to do such things.
One can hear it in the story of Cain and Able.
Cain had it in his head, that if he killed Able he would be the fairest one
of all and God would have to love him.
Cain was not a Commandant player, never learned how from his mommie and
daddy, as it takes a village to raise a child.
:)
Alan B. Mac Farlane
wrote on 6/24/08 7:53 AM:
Toddler Tantrum never do such things because of who they are, seems Bubble
Boy with his pre-emptive strike against WMDs and Imminent threats that are
not there ... well ... we have WMDs and US is an imminent threat ... so Bush
the Worst laid it all down.
All hail the Mark of Cain.
May our Jealous God the Father who makes babies with His daughters and
manifest as talking fire, smoke, serpent staff, insects, pestilence, bog
creatures, darklight, and mass casuality child killing airs keep you safe
and unmolested.
NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency
Alan B. Mac Farlane
on 6/24/08 10:39 AM:
>> Unfortunately, the behavior of the Church often leaves us open to the
>> sort of warped accusations we see in this post.
>
> then it's the behavior of the church that's warped, not the accusations.
oh commmonnnnn ... who in their right mind has a jealous God the Father
making babies with His daughters ... ya ya ... its a fucking miracle I know.
That is how they get you to pray to Mr. Scratch and call it holy, holy, holy
for you will DIE DIE DIE and go to HELL if you do not beleive.
All Hail Moses and his Serpent Staff of dark powers.
Alan B. Mac Farlane
on 5/26/08 4:18 AM:
> On Mon, 26 May 2008 03:04:15 GMT, Rel...@home.net (Liberals' Worst
> Nightmare) wrote:
>
>> Dear Lord, I know how much you love America and the American GIs who
>> gave us our freedom. I pray that you give our GIs the resolve to kill
>> our no. 1 enemy, the liberals.
>>
>> Amen.
Click to view http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20163.htm
By John Nichols
The Nation.com
AlterNet Posted on June 23, 2008
http://www.alternet.org/story/89120/
I think it's the duty of the comedian to find out where
the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
-- George Carlin
The last vote that George Carlin said he cast in a
presidential race was for George McGovern in 1972.
When Richard Nixon, who Carlin described as a member of
a sub-species of humanity, overwhelmingly defeated
McGovern, the comedian gave up on the political
process.
"Now, there's one thing you might have noticed I don't
complain about: politicians," he explained in a routine
that challenged all the premises of today's half-a-loaf
reformers. "Everybody complains about politicians.
Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think
these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the
sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another
reality. They come from American parents and American
families, American homes, American schools, American
churches, American businesses and American
universities, and they are elected by American
citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is
what we have to offer. It's what our system produces:
Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant
citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant
leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're
just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish,
ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not
the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks
around here... like, the public. Yeah, the public
sucks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody:
'The Public Sucks. Fuck Hope.'"
Needless to say, George Carlin was not on message for
2008's "change we can believe in" election season.
His was a darker and more serious take on the crisis --
and the change of consciousness, sweeping in scope and
revolutionary in character, that was required to
address it.
Carlin may have stopped voting in 1972. But America's
most consistently savage social commentator for the
best part of a half century, who has died at age 71,
did not give up on politics.
In recent years, in front of audiences that were not
always liberal, he tore apart the neo-conservative
assault on liberty with a clarity rarely evidenced in
the popular culture.
Recalling George Bush's ranting about how the endless
"war on terror" is a battle for freedom, Carlin echoed
James Madison's thinking with a simple question: "Well,
if crime fighters fight crime and fire fighters fight
fire, what do freedom fighters fight? They never
mention that part to us, do they?"
Carlin gave the Christian right -- and the Christian
left -- no quarter. "I'm completely in favor of the
separation of Church and State," Carlin said. "My idea
is that these two institutions screw us up enough on
their own, so both of them together is certain death."
Carlin's take on the Ronald Reagan administration is
the best antidote to the counterfactual romanticization
of the former president -- in which even Barack Obama
has engaged -- remains the single finest assessment of
Reagan and his inner circle. While Carlin did not
complain much about politicians, he made an exception
with regard to the great communicator. Recorded in 1988
at the Park Theater in Union City, New Jersey, and
later released as an album -- What Am I Doing in New
Jersey? -- his savage recollection of the
then-concluding Reagan-Bush years opened with the line:
"I really haven't seen this many people in one place
since they took the group photograph of all the
criminals and lawbreakers in the Ronald Reagan
administration."
But there was no nostalgia for past fights, no resting
on laurels, for this topical comedian. He read the
papers, he followed the news, he asked questions -- the
interviews I did with Carlin over the years were more
conversations than traditional Q & A's -- and he turned
it all into a running commentary that focused not so
much on politics as on the ugly intersection of power
and economics.
No one, not Obama, not Hillary Clinton and certainly
not John McCain, caught the zeitgeist of the vanishing
American dream so well as Carlin. "The owners of this
country know the truth: It's called the American dream
because you have to be asleep to believe it."
Not just aware of but steeped in the traditions of
American populism -- more William Jennings Bryan and
Eugene Victor Debs than Bill Clinton or John Kerry --
Carlin preached against the consolidation of wealth and
power with a fire-and-brimstone rage that betrayed a
deep moral sense that could never quite be cloaked with
four-letter words.
"The real owners are the big wealthy business interests
that control things and make all the important
decisions. Forget the politicians, they're an
irrelevancy. The politicians are put there to give you
the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't.
You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They
own everything. They own all the important land. They
own and control the corporations. They've long since
bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the
statehouses, the city halls. They've got the judges in
their back pockets. And they own all the big media
companies, so that they control just about all of the
news and information you hear. They've got you by the
balls. They spend billions of dollars every year
lobbying -- lobbying to get what they want. Well, we
know what they want; they want more for themselves and
less for everybody else," ranted the comedian whose
routines were studied in graduate schools.
"But I'll tell you what they don't want," Carlin
continued. "They don't want a population of citizens
capable of critical thinking. They don't want
well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical
thinking. They're not interested in that. That doesn't
help them. That's against their interests. They don't
want people who are smart enough to sit around the
kitchen table and figure out how badly they're getting
fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking
years ago. You know what they want? Obedient workers --
people who are just smart enough to run the machines
and do the paperwork but just dumb enough to passively
accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the
lower pay, the longer hours, reduced benefits, the end
of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears
the minute you go to collect it. And, now, they're
coming for your Social Security. They want your fucking
retirement money. They want it back, so they can give
it to their criminal friends on Wall Street. And you
know something? They'll get it. They'll get it all,
sooner or later, because they own this fucking place.
It's a big club, and you ain't in it. You and I are not
in the big club."
Carlin did not want Americans to get involved with the
system.
He wanted citizens to get angry enough to remake the
system.
Carlin was a leveler of the old, old school. And no one
who had so public a platform -- as the first host of
NBC's "Saturday Night Live," a regular on broadcast and
cable televisions shows, a best-selling author and a
favorite character actor in films (he was even the
narrator of the American version of the children's show
"Thomas the Tank Engine & Friends") -- did more to
challenge accepted wisdom regarding our political
economy.
"Let's suppose we all just materialized on Earth and
there was a bunch of potatoes on the ground, okay?
There's just six of us. Only six humans. We come into a
clearing and there's potatoes on the ground. Now, my
instinct would be, let's everybody get some potatoes.
"Everybody got a potato? Joey didn't get a potato! He's
small, he can't hold as many potatoes. Give Joey some
of your potatoes." "No, these are my potatoes!" That's
the Republicans. "I collected more of them, I got a
bigger pile of potatoes, they're mine. If you want some
of them, you're going to have to give me something."
"But look at Joey, he's only got a couple, they won't
last two days." That's the fuckin' difference! And I'm
more inclined to want to share and even out," he
explained in an interview several years ago with the
Onion.
"I understand the marketplace, but government is
supposed to be here to redress the inequities of the
marketplace," Carlin continued. "That's one of its
functions. Not just to protect the nation, secure our
security and all that shit. And not just to take care
of great problems that are trans-state problems, that
are national, but also to make sure that the
inequalities of the marketplace are redressed by the
acts of government. That's what welfare was about.
There are people who really just don't have the tools,
for whatever reason. Yes, there are lazy people. Yes,
there are slackers. Yes, there's all of that. But there
are also people who can't cut it, for any given reason,
whether it's racism, or an educational opportunity, or
poverty, or a fuckin' horrible home life, or a history
of a horrible family life going back three generations,
or whatever it is. They're crippled and they can't make
it, and they deserve to rest at the commonweal. That's
where my fuckin' passion lies."
Like the radicals of the early years of the 20th
century, whose politics he knew and respected, Carlin
understood that free-speech fights had to come first.
And always pushed the limit -- happily choosing an
offensive word when a more polite one might have
sufficed. By 1972, the year he won the first of four
Grammys for best comedy album, he had developed his
most famous routine: "Seven Words (You Can't Say on
Television)."
That summer, at a huge outdoor show in Milwaukee, he
uttered all seven of them in public -- and was promptly
arrested for disturbing the peace.
When a version of the routine was aired in 1973 on
WBAI, the Pacifica Foundation radio station in New
York,. Pacifica received a citation from the FCC.
Pacifica was ordered to pay a fine for violating
federal regulations prohibiting the broadcast of
"obscene" language. The ensuing free-speech fight made
its way to the U.S. Supreme Court, which rile 5-4
against the First Amendment to the Constitution,
Pacifica and Carlin.
Amusingly, especially to the comedian, a full
transcript of the routine ended up in court documents
associated with the case, F.C.C. v. Pacifica
Foundation, 438 U.S. 726 (1978).
"So my name is a footnote in American legal history,
which I'm perversely kind of proud of," recalled
Carlin. Proud enough that you can find the court
records on the comedian's website: www.georgecarlin.com
There will, of course, be those who dismiss Carlin as a
remnant of the sixties who introduced obscenity to the
public discourse -- just as there will be those who
misread his critique of the American political and
economic systems as little more than verbal nihilism.
In fact, George Carlin was, like the radicals of an
earlier age, an idealist -- and a patriot -- of a
deeper sort than is encountered very often these days.
Carlin explained himself best in one of his last
interviews. "There is a certain amount of righteous
indignation I hold for this culture, because to get
back to the real root of it, to get broader about it,
my opinion that is my species -- and my culture in
America specifically -- have let me down and betrayed
me. I think this species had great, great promise, with
this great upper brain that we have, and I think we
squandered it on God and Mammon. And I think this
culture of ours has such promise, with the promise of
real, true freedom, and then everyone has been shackled
by ownership and possessions and acquisition and status
and power," he said. "And perhaps it's just a human
weakness and an inevitable human story that these
things happen. But there's disillusionment and some
discontent in me about it. I don't consider myself a
cynic. I think of myself as a skeptic and a realist.
But I understand the word 'cynic' has more than one
meaning, and I see how I could be seen as cynical.
'George, you're cynical.' Well, you know, they say if
you scratch a cynic you find a disappointed idealist.
And perhaps the flame still flickers a little, you
know?"
John Nichols is The Nation's Washington correspondent.
(c) 2008 TheNation.com All rights reserved. View this
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Bush worked his super visionary ass off to give US this economic future of
the rich getting richer, and the poor getting poorer ... uniting and not
dividing.
Remember IRAK IS AN EMERGENCY ... you know WMDs, imminent threats, blitzkrig
democracy, it is for our future.
Trust Bush ... sure ... he got US here. Dummy Dems helping all the way.
you voted for them ...
better get a helmet, the Jonestown Nutters Attack goes on and on.
I wanted a better future for you guys ...
But you just are not interested.
so reap dem whirly winds from what you sow.
Listen to Bush ... do what he says ... he smart, he is the popular one.
sumbuddie on da watchtower
Alan B. Mac Farlane
> "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't
> care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
> - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
Remember folks ... Irak is an EMERGENCY ...
something about imminent threats, WMDs, security of US, blitzkrig democracy.
Been an emergency for 5 years now ... with Saddam being Hitler and all.
Bush War Koolaid ... drink up.
Follow Bush ... great super vision of the future there.
History will show it was an Emergency ...
Wait and see.
sumbuddie on da watchtower
Alan B. Mac Farlane
Scam he is running with Big Money Pharma Medicine. For my own health, I
LIKE GETTING THE FLU and other bugs going around. I want my Defense
Structure to know what is going on, make antibodies, and stay current ... I
do NOT however keep the flu around, it is gone in 30 minutes usually after
the histemic response shows up. For people who get flu shots, and lets say
they work, which they really don't ... well they are going to die faster
cause their Defense Structure is not being built up, but down. It is a good
read ... get more later. Sumbuddie on da watchtower saidis)
APRIL 28, 2005. Before the various recent flu scandals drop
completely below the radar, I wanted to dig some material out of my archive
and compile it and post it.
This is all about actual deaths from flu in the US every year, as
opposed to the propaganda figures the CDC trots out each flu season.
In press conferences, the CDC routinely floats 36,000 (or more) as
the number of annual flu deaths in the US. But when you go to the CDCÄ…s own
sites, you find a completely different picture.
WeÄ…ll get to that a little later. First, letÄ…s go with a simple
chart from the American Lung Association, a chart I posted in October of
2004. Here is the article I wrote then:
OCTOBER 22, 2004. Ask the American Lung Association. Better yet,
read their own report from August of 2004, titled, "Trends in Pneumonia and
Influenza/Morbidity and Mortality."
This report comes from "Research and Scientific
Affairs/Epidemiology and Statistics Unit." At the bottom of the document,
the source is listed as: National Center for Health Statistics, Report of
Final Mortality Statistics, 1979-2001.
Get ready for some surprises, especially since the CDC keeps
trumpeting flu-death annual numbers as 36,000. Like clockwork. Year in and
year out. 36,000 people in the US die from the flu every year. Killer
disease. Watch out. Get your flu shot. Every autumn. Don't wait. You might
fall over dead in the street.
Here are the total flu deaths from the report. From 1979 to 1995,
the stats were released every two years.
1979: 604
1981: 3,006
1983: 1,431
1985: 2,054
1987: 632
1989: 1,593
1991: 1,137
1993: 1,044
1995: 606
1996: 745
1997: 720
1998: 1,724
1999: 1,665
2000: 1765
2001: 257
Don't believe me?
Here is the page [as of October, 2004]:
www.lungusa.org/atf/cf/%7B7A8D42C2-FCCA-4604-8ADE-7F5D5E762256%7D/PI1.PDF
Get there and go to page 9 of the document. Then start scrolling
down until you come to the chart for flu deaths as a separate category.
Recently, Tommy Thompson, head of US Health and Human services,
stated that 91 percent of the people who die from the flu in the US every
year are 65 and older. So you might engage in a little arithmetic and figure
out how many people under 65 are really dying from the flu each year.
But no matter. The raw all-ages stats are low enough. Quite low
enough. Quite, quite.
Do you see what is going on here?
You can go into my archive and read recent pieces on this subject
and find my argument for those who blithely claim, "Well, harumph, you see,
uh ah, flu often leads to pneumonia and THAT'S why we have to be so careful
about the flu. Deaths from pneumonia are large numbers, harumph, blah blah
blah..."
It's a straight con, folks. The CDC is on a streetcorner with a
little table, and there are shills walking around repeating the 36,000-death
figure while the PR flacks at the table are working the vaccine angle.
The crowd is getting restless. A man shouts, "Where is my flu
shot? We're all going to die!"
Meanwhile, on Capitol Hill, Congress is planning a measure that
will guarantee vaccine manufacturers annual billion-dollar payoffs no matter
how many doses are left over, unused.
JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com
***************************************************************
Now letÄ…s go to an AP story that appeared a few days before I
posted my Oct. 2004 article above:
Å‚Thompson [Tommy Thompson, head of Health and Human Services] said
the flu vaccine supply will be reallocated to parts of the country where it
is needed most. Most at risk for severe complications from the flu are
seniors and young children.
"Ä…We are looking all over the regions to find out where there is a
shortage, and we will redeploy the resources to make sure the seniors get
the vaccine first,Ä… he said. He noted that 91 percent of flu deaths last
year were people 65 or older.Ë›
Do the math. If the true death stats from the flu are as stated by
the American Lung Association, how many people under the age of 65 actually
die from the flu in the US every year? Take the year 2000: 1765 deaths.
Using ThompsonÄ…s guideline, subtract the people over 65 who died from the
flu, and you get a remainder of 177 people in the US under the age of 65 who
died from the flu in the year 2000.
Now letÄ…s go to an even earlier post of mineÅ Oct. 11, 2004. This
was, as I recall, a very busy day for me on the site. I had three
researchers contacting me: John Keller, John Cullison, and Martin Maloney.
Keller had broken the whole hoax first at the Cure Zone, and I had picked up
on it there.
UPDATE Oct.11, 2004, 12:25PM, Pacific Time: More from John
Cullison that confirms the Keller report on ACTUAL very low CDC stats for
flu deaths in the US. Cullison writes:
I've found the preliminary data for 2002. It's at
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr52/nvsr52_13.pdf. It's in
THIS document that Keller's instructions make sense. Sure enough, on page
16, Influenza (J10-J11) is listed as 753 [deaths], and Pneumonia (J12-J18)
accounts for the other 65,231 cases.
UPDATE: October 11, 2004, 12:30PM, Pacific Time: Here is another
source, Martin Maloney, who has tracked the CDC page address cited by
Keller. He offers his succinct confirmatory finding:
Perhaps this is what you are looking for. Near the bottom of page
31 of that PDF document, you will find, under the heading:
Table 10. Number of deaths from 113 selected causes by age: United
States, 2001 - Con.
//snip//
Influenza and pneumonia (J10-J18)
................................. 62,034
Influenza (J10-J11)
......................................................... 257
Pneumonia (J12-J18)
..................................................... 61,777
These researchers, mind you, were looking at the CDCÄ…s own data on
the CDC sites.
At some point in 2004, another researcher came on board. I
withhold his name, at his request. He found another way to get into CDC site
data, and I was able to track that and confirm the very, very low
death-stats for flu.
There was another hurdle to cross for me. CDC people and doctors
around the US had a fixed idea about the flu. One of those Å‚everybody knows
this is trueË› ideas. It is: FLU OFTEN LEADS TO PNEUMONIA, AND EVEN THOUGH
THE ACTUAL FLU-DEATH STATS MAY BE LOW, THE DEATHS FROM PNEUMONIA ARE QUITE
HIGH. THEREFORE YOU CAN DISCOUNT THE ACTUAL FLU-DEATH STATS AND GO TO THE
PNEUMONIA STATS.
Is this idea correct?
I began searching through the CDCÄ…s own data.
At the end of October, 2004, I found what I was looking for. Here
is an excerpt from my article on flu and pneumonia. It begins with a
blockbuster about the flu itself, and then gets into the flu-pneumonia
connection:
Å I spotted, this morning, a letter to the editor at
RedFlagsWeekly.com, from Randy L. Powers. He provides a link to a CDC
website, where deaths from flu and flu-plus-other-stuff are broken down for
the year 2000.
You can go to Red Flags, scroll all the way down the center of the
page to the bottom and pick up the link to the letters section,and find
Randy's letter and his live link to the CDC pdf file. [probably not there
anymore]
Or you can type in:
www.cdc.gov/nchs/datawh/statab/unpubd/mortabs/gmwki10.htm
And then you would go to pages 1068-1071.
Either way you do it, you'll come across a bunch of tables that
list flu-death stats for the year 2000. You'll need to look at all the
tables.
I have previously reported that the actual CDC flu-death stat for
the year 2000 was 1765. It's in small print, not in the CDC press releases
that trumpet that ridiculous canned 36,000 figure.
So, working with the 1765 figure, I read through the various
tables. It was easy to find how the CDC came up with that number.
Table 1 lists 60 deaths from flu "with influenza virus identified." Table
five lists 1705 deaths from flu with "virus not identified."
Add up the two totals and you get 1765 deaths from the flu.
But wait a minute. All these stats are based on reports turned in
from the field---which means doctors out there making diagnoses all over the
US. If 1705 deaths from the flu NEVER HAD AN IDENTIFICATION OF A VIRUS THAT
THE CDC CLAIMS ACTUALLY CAUSES THE FLU, WHAT ARE WE LEFT WITH?
We are left with vague eyeball diagnosis of patients. Meaningless.
Zero science.
Therefore, for the year 2000, the CDC flu-death stats that, at
their best, fit any sane conventional assessment come to a total of SIXTY.
Sixty confirmed cases of death from flu in the US.
This is right in line with my operating principle for
investigating lies: the closer you get, the worse it is.
In fact, it would be very nice to know, in those 60 confirmed
cases of death from the flu, exactly HOW the flu virus was IDed.
Was it by actual isolation, or was it by finding antibodies to the flu
virus? If the latter, that is NOT a proper ID. The presence of
antibodies simply signifies the person's immune system has contacted the
virus. Antibodies usually mean the person has successfully warded off the
virus. Anyway...
If you study the other tables, you find more illumination. For
example, in table 6, we see 912 deaths under a category called INFLUENZA
WITH PNEUMONIA, VIRUS NOT IDENTIFIED. Oops. There it is again. The flu virus
(that's what they're talking about) was never IDed. So how can they say this
was really "INFLUENZA-with-pneumonia" as the cause of death? They can't.
If you've been reading my articles on this whole stat business,
you know that I've expressed grave doubt about the 'everybody-knows-science'
that says, "Hell, flu is very dangerous because it often leads to pneumonia.
So even if the actual flu deaths are very low, we have to vaccinate anybody
that moves because, that way, we're preventing pneumonia." Yeah. Sure.
Again, let me repeat, in the year 2000, there were 912 deaths
listed under pneumonia WHERE THE FLU VIRUS WAS NEVER IDENTIFIED. There is no
provable link between those pneumonia cases and flu.
Table 2, in fact, is deaths from flu-with-pneumonia where the flu
virus WAS identified. Even if we assume that in these cases the flu actually
LED to the pneumonia, the total of deaths is: 31.
That's right. 31.
So much for the vaunted and provable 'everybody-knows' link
between flu and pneumonia.
What about the other tables for the year 2000? Table 3 is the
category FLU WITH OTHER RESPIRATORY MANIFESTATIONS,WHERE THE FLU VIRUS WAS
IDENTIFIED. Of course, we don't know what the other respiratory
manifestations were---exceptwe DO know they were never IDed as pneumonia.
Total of deaths from this category? 27.
Table 4 is FLU WITH OTHER MANIFESTATIONS (even more vague) WHERE
THE FLU VIRUS WAS IDENTIFIED. Total deaths in this category? 2.
Table 7 is FLU WITH OTHER RESPIRATORY MANIFESTATIONS WHERE THE FLU
VIRUS WAS NOT IDENTIFIED. In other words, it's a vague plus vague category.
A maybe not-sure could-be flu plus who knows what other respiratory
problems. Total deaths? 767.
And table 8 is FLU WITH OTHER MANIFESTATIONS WHERE THE FLU VIRUS
WAS NOT IDENTIFIED. Even vaguer. Total deaths? 26.
And that's it.
The closer you get, the worse it is. They're winging it. They're
making all sorts of wild assumptions about flu cases without ever having
IDed a flu virus. They're in deep water without a hint of a paddle. They're
basically admitting their press releases trumpeting large flu-death figures
are lies. They're confessing that their "universal" flu-peumonia death link
is sheer unwarranted presumption.
This is a huge story. It may never get out into the mainstream.
But it's huge.
ADDENDUM: I want to offer an educated opinion about a larger
circumference of spin at the CDC. Look at it this way. You've got two
parallel forces at work there in Atlanta. On one track, there are the bean
counters who are assembling the stats and tables I've just gone over. They
just keep their noses close to the computer and they add beans on beans. On
another track,and this is very important, you've got people who are saying,
"Listen, flu IS NOT A REPORTABLE DISEASE IN THE US. There is no rule that
doctors in the field must report every (or any) flu diagnosis they make to
the CDC. Therefore, we know that all sorts of flu cases and, therefore, FLU
DEATHS, are not being funneled to us. So we have to take a different
approach. We have to do STATISTICAL PROJECTIONS. From the data we do have,
or from some restricted studies we do on very small populations, we have to
introduce computer modeling, and we can then make a reasonable estimate of
how many people actually die of the flu every year. THAT'S how we come up
with the 36,000 figure. See? We're not lying. We're just doing the best job
we can."
There is a great deal to learn about how these computer
projections are really done. People tend to glaze over when you bring
this subject up. People assume the math is correct and right and there are
geniuses at work and they know the best way to proceed.
Well, I would point out that, in Rolling Stone, and other
publications, a big scandal was broken about the way HIV-positive stats
were assembled in South Africa, where the predictions tell us that the whole
country will soon die of AIDS. It turned out that researchers were getting
their blood for HIV tests from pregnancy clinics' leftover vials. They were
testing this blood for"antibodies to HIV," and then sending the numbers and
percentages to GENEVA, to the World Health Organization, where the computer
boys took the numbers and did their projections. And that's how the dire
press releases about the future of South Africa were created for medical
reporters from Alaska to the South Pole. One thing was wrong: PREGNANCY
ITSELF CAN CAUSE AN HIV BLOOD TEST TO REGISTER POSITIVE FALSELY. Pregnancy
can cause the blood test to confirm the presence of antibodies to HIV when
those antibodies are not really there. Not there. And that's the blood they
were using to begin with---from pregnant women.
In the matter of flu deaths in the US, the burden of proof lies
with the CDC. They must show, in great detail, that their statistical
projections of 36,000 deaths a year are based on good and reasonable science
all the way down the line. Meanwhile, as I've shown, the only data we have
to work with are, all in all, a great torpedo in the belly of the CDC. And
that data is posted right there on a CDC page.
JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com
Getting the picture? IÄ…ll add a few more comments today, April 28,
2005. There is no reason to trust the CDCÄ…s computer projections on flu
deaths. First, we donÄ…t have info on how they make these projections.
Second, when you go to the small print,as IÄ…ve done above, you see some very
alarming deceptions. You see fast and loose Å‚science.Ë›
Further: even the isolation of an actual flu virus in a patient
(as opposed to merely finding antibodies to a flu virus) is not enough to
make a flu diagnosis. Why? Because there is a thing called TITER. Titer is
basically a measure of how many viruses per unit of blood are present in
that patient. You need a whole lot of titer to make a clear diagnosis of
flu. If the patient has just a few viruses floating around in his body,
there is no reason to expect he has the flu. When you look back at those
tables I just went over, you see absolutely no mention of titer.
Also, in those tables, you see no mention of the overall health
status of the Å‚flu patient.Ë› Any flu patient. This is key. In many
instances, the flu is not really doing much at all. The patient is ill from
other causes. For instance, he has been beaten down by years of toxic
medical drugs. He has had multiple surgeries and accompanying
immune-suppressing blood transfusions. He has had other illnesses that have
worn down his immune system. He has eaten a terrible diet. He has received
toxic vaccines. These and other factors are much more important to how ill
the patient is than the presence of a flu virus in his body. To say
such an immune-suppressed patient has died of the flu is a complete lie.
IÄ…ll offer one final remark to round off this utterly fantastic
scandal. Attendees in my ongoing paranormal writing workshop will
recall that, in the last session, I described in detail how, as you write
story, as you move in with your lens on a small piece of a space you are
creating, you really know what itÄ…s like to inhabit a landscape of your own
invention. You know how exhilarating that can be. The corollary to that is,
when you are following SOMEONE ELSEÄ…S STORY---a story that is built as a
deception for an ulterior motive---THE CLOSER YOU GET, THE WORSE IT IS.
A word to the wise.
JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com
Alan B. Mac Farlane
You know who the Pill Grims are dontcha.
The guys who came to America for the RIGHT to put people in stocks, chains,
pillory, red letter A and Pink Triangles ... they took their Blunderbuss and
put the brown skin and brown eyed people in the ghetto at the point of a gun
making democracy the old fashioned way.
Soooo ... who are the Pill Grims now.
Pat Robertson ... Bro Jack Ass ... McLaughlin ... Bubble Boy.
Just look at any one stuck in their toddler tantrum praying to a jealous God
the Father who makes babies with His daughters ... and tis a miracle.
They take their guns and kill people for OIL ... for money.
That is how Kennedy died ... all three of em ... for Oil.
It is how President Oprah is going to flip flop and kill you Colin Powel
style cause President Oprah hates men and will not get therapy to change who
she are so she changes what she do.
Right now she had to do what she do ... cause of who she are.
Can't stop her.
Hate you dad you gonna see your boy children die.
Hate you mom you gonna see you girl children die.
It is how you make bad weak medicine.
sumbuddie wear blind sea
:)
Alan B. Mac Farlane
These are ideas in principal to think about, not rules for adherance. You
have your higher power ... and it is certainly not me or this posting.
The alcoholic they are talking about could have a sex addiction, a romance
novel addiction or multiple addictions ... they are really okey, just have
some PTSD issues, are stuck in their toddler tantrum and they are living in
fear .... and if you had a traumatic stress event in your life on drowning
or rape lets say, you would have some fear issues to work on concerning
water or sex activity.
So here starts the suggested do's and don'ts.
DO'S
1. Do remember you are not the only one with an alcoholic or addicted
parent.
2. Do look for help in Alateen, Al-Anon, AA and other local and community
councils on alcoholism.
3. Do learn all you can about alcoholism addictions, a family disease.
4. Do be honest with yourself and others.
5. Do use your talents in ways that interest you.
6. Do develop a sensible attitude about alcoholism and addictions
7. Do remember that not only the alcoholic addict, but all the members of
the family are emotionally involved with the disease.
8. Do find someone other then a relative that you can confide in.
9.Do learn to forgive yourself and others -- you only hurt yourself holding
grudges.
10. Do keep your trust in your Higher Power.
11. Do take your own inventory and admit your faults to one person.
12. Do pass on your knowledge of Alateen to others.
DON'TS
1. Don't cover up for the alcoholic and take on responsibilites other then
your own.
2. Don't try to make the alcoholic addict stop drinking or acting out with
mood alterning behaviours -- you can't. They live in fear and will not do
the work to take the pain at this time of their lives by putting love into
the place they are holding fear and thus live in love. Be patient for the
changes that take time.
3. Don't argue with the active alcoholic or practicing addict.
4. Don't hide or throw out liquor/drugs, more is always available.
5. Don't take it personally when the alcoholic addict blames you for
drinking or using -- any excuse with do.
6. Don't use drugs alcohol or other mood alterning behaviours as a means of
escaping the family situation.
7. Don't condemn, judge, criticize -- remember alcoholism addictions is a
disease exacerbated by traumatic stress has it has history in PTSD.
8. Don't make your parent's problem the number one thing in your life.
9. Don't expect things to get better overnight.
10. Don't expect to change anyone but yourself.
11. Don't allow self-pity to grow inside of you. It will destroy you.
12. Don't over-react to the alcoholic addicts problem.
THE SLOGANS
Live and Let Live .. To get the most out of your life, don't judge or
criticize others or concern yourself with what they do. The operative
emphasis on this slogan is on the first word ... LIVE ... have a good time.
First Things First. First do what's most important - you'll get more done.
It's a great way to organize your time and energy.
Think. Hold back that rash word or thoughtless action. Think about ways to
improve yourself. Think before you make decisions.
Easy Does It. Haste makes waste - of time and effort. Relax - get rid of
tension and rushing.
Let Go And Let God. You can't fix everything that's wrong with the world or
with your family and friends. Let it go ! God can't do His/Her work if
we're standing in the way.
One Day At A Time. Today is the most important day of your life. Use it.
Forget yesterday - and don't worry about what might happen tomorrow.
Listen And Learn. There is something of value to be learned from everyone
you meet. Look for it and use it.
Al-Anon and Alateen may be listed in your telephone directory or call for
meeting information. 1-888-4-Al-Anon (888-425-2666)
Al-Anon Family Group Headquarters, Inc.
1600 Corporate Landing Parkway
Virginia Beach, VA 23454-5617
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ya ya ya
Alan B. Mac Farlane
7/3/08 11:51 AM:
whot he said mate !!!
watch out for those Grim Pills, they pretend to make you Bush better but
that just make you Chenny ill ...
10,000 Grim Pills a day getcha $400 million of bling later.
hanging chads as President Oprah loves Whitie Nazi Church of Pill Grims.
:/
Alan B. Mac Farlane
Radioactive they say ... Dummy Dem Pill Grims love Bush GOPerp Pill Grims.
Tony Snow dead ... why would the God of Moses and the Serpent Staff take
such a good holy man away ... and George Carlin potty mouth lives on and is
more popular.
Foxed up people every where mourns ... the loyal ones are striken on loyal
to Bush tee vee.
Reaping dem whirly winds sorry to say.
When is America gonna wake up and see their toddler tantrum of the Grim
Pills ... hard to do ... hard to say.
sumbuddie on da watchtower wear blind sea da ...
Red Rum Alert ... Grim Pills Jonestown Nutters under attack.
Run for you lives ... get a helmet for the diaper heads.
The Foxing White Boys Club rules Dood !!!
Sick Foxes are dying like flys ...
ashes, ashes, ashes we all fall down.
Grim Pills are killing US folks; not Ossama Ben Forgotten by the loser piece
of believer shit in the White House.
:/
Alan B. Mac Farlane
Tony is not whining ... Fox News False Prophets can tell you that with their
magical thinking based on their justified judgement.
All Hail the Pill Grims ... have one they are yummy.
Have 10,000 a day, they will make you better ... not ill.
sumbuddie has to make up a happy day
:?
in article C49E437B.53337%al...@sonic.net, Alan B. Mac Farlane at
al...@sonic.net wrote on 7/12/08 11:18 AM:
Alan B. Mac Farlane
20% of America wants Bush to Bear Sterns US up the arse.
20% of America loves Bush missing the dots on FannieMae and FreedieMac being
gutted from the inside ... as Bush wants to DEREGULATE the loan industry
like his Cousins in Texas did 20 years ago with his Daddie.
Deregulation works ... let the free market do its job he says.
Well Free Markets did not work with FDR and now Bush is using FDR Depression
weapons to fight a not a recession Bear market with no bottom yet.
Neat - huh ???
Why does 20% of America love Bush ... because they are the Grim Pills
eating their Koolaid all the way to the Bank.
The Grim Pills are kill you Mr and Mrs America.
Grim Pills are under attack by God's Spearttip of Robertson and Moses
Serpent Staff.
Get a helmet ... reap those whirly winds from what you have sowed.
Bush can not ... he is incompetent ... the Dummy Dem Grim Pills will not
impeach him. They are in cahoots together. Why else would they do it ...
in the face of more proof of incompetence.
Bubble Boy is not fit for the job.
Alan B. Mac Farlane
> Bubble Boy is not fit for the job.
Dear Mrs. Hasselbeck ...
Now that more years have given your more time to grow up and see things for
what they are, and not for as you would have them.
I was wondering, is Rosie right about President Bush ... not 100% to be
sure. Of course not ... but maybe 60% right .... maybe 75% right ... maybe
90% right about Bush being so messed up.
I know you are one of the Grim Pills like Oprah is a Grim Pill ... one of
the rich foxs who are feeling no PAIN ... with the Bush economy ... and the
20% of people love Bush doing this to Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac.
I know, you have cash to buy a house .. not a problem for you.
I was thinking of your pool cleaner, maybe the cop on the beat, the nurse in
the hospital ... maybe the teacher in the school your child goes to. They
would need a house the old fashioned way ... not like the rich foxs do it.
So Mrs. Hasselbeck ... you love Bush doing what he is doing ... you have an
excuse for him again ???
Or are you ready to protect your children, as you now see Bush is a danger
to them.
I hope you do see the danger your children are in ... and I hope you
apologize to Rosie ... at least maybe a 50% apology ... or maybe a 75%
apology. Cause she is right and you are wrong about Bush. Rosie loves and
protects your children better then you do I would have to say ... at least
on the face of it ... looking in hindsight.
I rest my case ... if you have been keeping up with current events that is.
Alan B. Mac Farlane
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ya ya ya
Alan B. Mac Farlane
and some guy takes a shot gun to a church, kills kids and people, makes a
big mess.
What is his problem, he writes a 2 page letter.
He can not get a job in the Bush Economic and Energy Magic Kicking in after
8 years of very hard work on the part of Bubble Boy.
He says the liberals are to BLAME for his problems.
Is he stuck in a toddler tantrum, does he have the Mark of Cain on him, is
he ready for the Armageddon ... why YES !!!
Never mind ... its a hate crime.
Liberals being targeted by Grim Pills ... run for your lives.
They are after US for real ... the Grim Pills are killing US.
Small scale, big scale.
Write In Vote - Bernie Sanders for President.
Stop the Nonsense ... go Independent.
Stop the Toddler Tantrum in Adults who will not grow up ... see Bubble Boy
for an example.
sumbuddie on da watctower wear blind sea
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Alan B. Mac Farlane wrote:
Alan B. Mac Farlane
one will write a loan for US as all of US is sold off by Bush.
DuBuy owns US now.
Screw the Constitution ... Bush sold that as well to highest bidder.
The Supremes said so ... it is a secret and it is legal.
Can not know what Chenny did in secret to make Exxon profits exceed
expectations AGAIN for the 7th year running.
Jobless is highest ever ... with his economic magic kicking in ... and it is
also a secret to have the goverment work this way for US.
Bear Sterns is a 200 Billion House of Cards ... what did Bush buy - their
GOOD NAME ... !!!
Get real folks ... can his ass.
Send him home.
Give him a Gonzales Good Buy ... make Clinton money on the circuit ... lots
of people still love Bush .. 25% I hear.
They will give him money ... sure they love him.
They have a job ... they have a Hummer and a Cigar.
They doing good ... no minimum wage for them.
sumbuddie having a Write In Vote for Bernie Sanders.
STOP THE NONSENSE !!!
stop the nonsense !!!
Have a Damm Yankee win this war.
:/
Alan B. Mac Farlane
GOProtest is working hard after Congress closes for recess ... not a Pelosi
in sight.
Oil Down 25% ...
Good work Pelosi ... now have Bush the Worst resign like Gonzales had to go.
Then we can keep the Dem Grim Pills who love war with the GOPerp Grim Pills
who love war around ... otherwise we have to can the Dem Grim Pills as well.
Keep Bush around ... gonna can Pelosi into retirement along with Feinstein
the war monger and Constitution burner.
sumbuddie wear blind sea
:/
Messiah Obama
<al...@sonic.net> wrote:
>Wadda day makes.
>
>GOProtest is working hard after Congress closes for recess ... not a Pelosi
>in sight.
No, she's cruising the skies in her personal jet.
VROOOOM! VROOOOOOM! VROOOOOM!
"No sense in drilling because it would take 10 years before we could
use the oil anyway." - - Nancy Pelosi.
But Nancy, in 10 years gas will be $75 per gallon.
You won't care; you'll be able to afford it.
VROOOM! VROOOOM! VROOOOM!
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Alan B. Mac Farlane
wrote on 8/6/08 7:27 AM:
> No, she's cruising the skies in her personal jet.
>
> VROOOOM! VROOOOOOM! VROOOOOM!
Just like Bush does ... goes with the job title.
Pelosi Energy Policy scares the nasty preditory big money speculators so
they are droping oil prices because of it.
Reported to you fair and balanced and unafraid.
GOProtest not having any effect at all ... Chenny Secret Oil Policy is
kicking in dood. Your jammy turd brains are showing sorry to say.
sumbuddie wear blind sea
Messiah Obama
<al...@sonic.net> wrote:
>in article 4899b3b8...@news.isp.com, Messiah Obama at n...@home.org
>wrote on 8/6/08 7:27 AM:
>
>> No, she's cruising the skies in her personal jet.
>>
>> VROOOOM! VROOOOOOM! VROOOOOM!
>
>
>Just like Bush does ... goes with the job title.
But Bush wants to drill.
We have oil underneath for 30 years, while we work on alternate
sources.
GOP and Dems have come up with a bi-partisan bill to that effec.
Nancy wants to sue OPEC.
Which causes the sheiks to laugh their asses off.
>Pelosi Energy Policy scares the nasty preditory big money speculators so
>they are droping oil prices because of it.
Pelosi has no policy.
Price drops can be attributed to less usage.
But they're temporary.
And Nancy is the one who's afraid ... of the green-wacko set.
>Reported to you fair and balanced and unafraid.
And incorrect.
_________________
Bugman
"Messiah Obama" <n...@home.org> wrote in message
news:4899ee7a...@news.isp.com...
> On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:30:33 -0700, "Alan B. Mac Farlane"
> <al...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>>in article 4899b3b8...@news.isp.com, Messiah Obama at n...@home.org
>>wrote on 8/6/08 7:27 AM:
>>
>>> No, she's cruising the skies in her personal jet.
>>>
>>> VROOOOM! VROOOOOOM! VROOOOOM!
>>
>>
>>Just like Bush does ... goes with the job title.
>
> But Bush wants to drill.
>
> We have oil underneath for 30 years, while we work on alternate
> sources.
Big oil has leases on 68 million acres. Who is stopping them from producing
on them?
Messiah Obama
wrote:
>
>"Messiah Obama" <n...@home.org> wrote in message
>news:4899ee7a...@news.isp.com...
>> On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:30:33 -0700, "Alan B. Mac Farlane"
>> <al...@sonic.net> wrote:
>>
>>>in article 4899b3b8...@news.isp.com, Messiah Obama at n...@home.org
>>>wrote on 8/6/08 7:27 AM:
>>>
>>>> No, she's cruising the skies in her personal jet.
>>>>
>>>> VROOOOM! VROOOOOOM! VROOOOOM!
>>>
>>>
>>>Just like Bush does ... goes with the job title.
>>
>> But Bush wants to drill.
>>
>> We have oil underneath for 30 years, while we work on alternate
>> sources.
>
>Big oil has leases on 68 million acres. Who is stopping them from producing
>on them?
Drying up, sonny.
Alan B. Mac Farlane
wrote on 8/6/08 11:40 AM:
> But Bush wants to drill.
sure he does ... good thing he gets a chance to kick his daddy in the balls.
Bush having a ball right now ... playing ball bubble boy.
Bush gonna drill those terrorists out of those holes they are hiding in and
he gonna get Ossma Ben Terrorists .. not some patsy they can not put at the
crime scene and has an airtight alibi.
Your jammy turd brains are showing Daddy Dearest ... get a helmet the Pill
Grim Jonestown Nutters are under attack by God above says Brother Pat
Robertson.
When the Speartip of God reaches out and touches your ass let me know when
you get the point.
Messiah Obama
<al...@sonic.net> wrote:
>in article 4899ee7a...@news.isp.com, Messiah Obama at n...@home.org
>wrote on 8/6/08 11:40 AM:
>
>> But Bush wants to drill.
>
>
>sure he does ... good thing he gets a chance to kick his daddy in the balls.
Nancy wants to drill too.
But not where there's oil.
"I'm not against drilling ... except where there's oil." - - Madame
Pelosi.
Alan B. Mac Farlane
wrote on 8/7/08 7:32 PM:
Daddy Dearest Jammy Turd Brains ... get a helmet ... Jonestown Nutters are
under attack by Moses Serpent Staff.
May our Jealous God the Father who makes babies with His daughters and
manifest as talking fire, smoke, serpent staff, insects, pestilence, bog
creatures, darklight, and mass casuality child killing airs keep you safe
and unmolested.
Messiah Obama
<al...@sonic.net> wrote:
>in article 489baff4...@news.isp.com, Messiah Obama at n...@home.org
>wrote on 8/7/08 7:32 PM:
>
>> On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:01:06 -0700, "Alan B. Mac Farlane"
>> <al...@sonic.net> wrote:
>>
>>> in article 4899ee7a...@news.isp.com, Messiah Obama at n...@home.org
>>> wrote on 8/6/08 11:40 AM:
>>>
>>>> But Bush wants to drill.
>>>
>>>
>>> sure he does ... good thing he gets a chance to kick his daddy in the balls.
>>
>> Nancy wants to drill too.
>>
>> But not where there's oil.
>>
>> "I'm not against drilling ... except where there's oil." - - Madame
>> Pelosi.
>>
>
>
>Daddy Dearest Jammy Turd Brains ... get a helmet ... Jonestown Nutters are
>under attack by Moses Serpent Staff.
Having Madame Pelosi out of Washington may actually be a good thing.
She can't do as much harm to the country when she's jet-setting around
the world pushing her new book, or relaxing around her $1 million
dollar swim pool with her six illegal alien pool boyz.
So stay away, bytch.
Alan B. Mac Farlane
wrote on 8/8/08 5:59 AM:
>
> So stay away, bytch.
your jammy turds are showing ... toddler tantrums do this to people.
Women are starting to figure out what a toddler tantrum in men look like
when they do not grow up ... and they are not liking it at all.
See Bush for what a toddler tantrum looks like in a big person who has to
lie like they are in the cookie jar.
Big People tell on themselves, put their cards on the table, be honest.
Toddler tantrums can not be talked to, they dont want to learn, they are so
angry inside they are diaper poop wall wipers.
People like you ... angry angry angry DADDY DEAREST giving warm regards with
cold steel. Obama is in his toddler tantrum, so is McCain, you will get it
after awhile, the learning curve picks up in time.
All hail Moses and his Serpent Staff.
Messiah Obama
<al...@sonic.net> wrote:
>in article 489c425b...@news.isp.com, Messiah Obama at n...@home.org
>wrote on 8/8/08 5:59 AM:
>
>>
>> So stay away, bytch.
>
>See Bush
In four more years, you're going to wish Bush was back in office.
Alan B. Mac Farlane
on 8/9/08 3:53 AM:
>>> So stay away, bytch.
>>
>> See Bush
>
> In four more years, you're going to wish Bush was back in office.
iyam an INDEPENDENT ... "write in vote" for Bernie Sanders of Vermont.
Screw the GOPerps and their GOProtest lowing BIG OIL speculatory preditory
big money Bear Sterns 400 bridges to no where.
Screw the Dummy Dems Grim Pills who want war.
Dems are just as sick as the GOPerps.
Poontange Wide Stance Broke Back Bathroom I did not have sex with that woman
bull shit.
At least with I Fox around I am honest about it ... hey she was just a Fox
... she is not worth a Fox ... she can not raise children, be a wife, be a
parent, be honest ... she lies lies lies like a toddler tantrum.
She just Foxs with people and I want to get Foxed ... there real honest.
She wants the baby ... she can have it ... I want nothing to do with a woman
that is not interested in family planning and planning a future we both love
and want.
Bush plans ... well they suck like you do.
MORE GOPprotest ... Pelosi keeps Congress closed, the GOPerps yell and
scream ... big oil is all scared of the GOPerps getting their way.
Betcha you know what Satan is thinking.
Putin, Poppie and Sonny Boy together again and all our war starts on Iran's
northern border. Iran is surrounded by US and Russia troops now with their
backs to the sea.
Hahahahaha ... you are such a Foxed up rube.
Seig Heil Moses and His Serpent Staff.
Alan B. Mac Farlane
Just two months ago ... Putin was having a fishing trip with Poppie and
Sonny Boy ... as Sonny is still far to immature to make a deal with Putin.
So Poppie wants Iran to be surrounded by WAR ... and he gots it.
Iran has its back to the sea, and war on the north, east and west.
Sonny Boy ... not ready for prime time ... still in his diapers sorry to say
with his jammy turds showing.
Seig Heil Moses and His Serpent Staff of Dark Powers.
Mr and Mrs America ... you are getting Foxed by the GOPerp Grim Pills and
the Dem Grim Pills.
Bernie Sanders for President .. Write In Vote ... get rid of the bums.
Toss em all out.
sumbuddie on da watchtower
Messiah Obama
<al...@sonic.net> wrote:
>in article 489d770...@news.isp.com, Messiah Obama at n...@home.org wrote
>on 8/9/08 3:53 AM:
>>>> So stay away, bytch.
>>>
>>> See Bush
>>
>> In four more years, you're going to wish Bush was back in office.
>
>
>iyam an INDEPENDENT ... "write in vote" for Bernie Sanders of Vermont.
BWAHAHAHAHA!
That dried-up old commie pinko, Karl Marx wannabe ain't even running.
Are *all* your parents' other children stupid too?
Hey, I've got an autographed picture of Joe Stalin.
Let ya have it ... cheap.
Alan B. Mac Farlane
wrote on 8/9/08 8:01 AM:
> Hey, I've got an autographed picture of Joe Stalin.
George Bush is just a popular ...
... as Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Nixon, Agnew, Gonzales, Snow, Novak ... the
list of GOPerps goes on and on.
Bush is radioactive ... McCain loves Bush War and Bush tax cuts.
Jammy Turd brains love Bush War to.
I bet you talk to Satan ... and enjoy your signed pic of Stalin with a glass
of vodka and beer.
Beer Voters are FOXED UP dood !!!
Beer Voters got US here with Bush and did it TWICE the diaper heads.
Alan B. Mac Farlane
In the news this morning. Cindy Sheehan, gold star mother of Bubble Boy's
WMD imminent threat mission accomplished bull shit war. She qualified for
the November ballot ... against Speaker of the House Pelosi.
I think she is going to kick BIG MONEY Grim Pill Fox Pelosi out of office
faster then Dennis Hastert.
San Francisco not going to be a liberal democrat bastion any more ... huh ?
I want to get rid of Lynn Woolsey ... why be a Democrat ... why have them in
power ... and why have the GOPerps in power if all they do is kill our
troops for nothing. Every day they die ... for nothing. Nothing to do with
national security, we are under threat, they gonna attack us we need
preemptive strike like they were Georgia with Putin.
Russia is our FRIEND ... Bush looked Putin in the eye ... sooooo why is our
friend out to destroy a pipeline that sells oil to the European Continent
raising the price of oil every where.
What does Oil man Putin and Oil Man Bush have to say about that ... whoops.
Mission accomplished.
Go drive LPG/LNG cars ... they are cheaper, last longer, less polluting, and
can make them plug in electric hybrids as well.
Just tool them up in 10 days ... on the show room floor in a month.
Easy to do Mr and Mrs America ... you can get a propane car right now ...
just fix it up. The parts are on the shelf .. proven technology for decades
out here in fruit and nutty land ... California.
We do things differently then in the rest of the world ... and the USA.
So there is good news this morning ... have a happy day.
Alan B. Mac Farlane
What is is about Senator Sexcess Secrets.
Do you have a wide stance problem.
Are you tasting poontange for recreation.
Are you married to an ex-President who is Foxed up.
Is there a Broke Back Bathroom in your future.
Well then a new book on Senate Sex-cess Secrets is coming out and it is
cheap, only 65 cents a day, the price of a cup of coffee ... and I will have
your sex life just as successfull as them.
Will you Fox it up ... of course ... you are stuck in your toddler tantrum
from childhood of abuse and living in fear.
Senator Edwards lied to his mommie and daddie about the cookie jar, and he
lies to his Wife and kids, he lies to US.
Doctors do this as well ... it is for your own good.
Will the Liberal Media pour out this news ... of course not.
We have a Foxing White Boy to put into office ... so we put a woman and a
nigger in your face to vote for.
Stop the non-sense folks ... beat up the Jonestown Nutters and the Beer
Vote.
They gave US this future.
Stop the nonsense ... vote Independent, vote for good people who have no
money problems, are not part of the foxing white boys club no matter what
their skin color, they are rich niggers now and are doing a Colin Powel on
you.
Rich niggers have no need for recovery ... nope nope nope.
You can see them for their fruitage of their spirit.
They Fox around, they vote for people who fox with you.
Wake up America ... your children are dying.
Alan B. Mac Farlane
Well now ... USA has invaded Irak and is in occupation killing our troops
for the future of US says Bush, it is making peace and world stability he
says ... by domino theory.
Russia has invaded Georgia and is in occupation, splitting the nation in
half taking over the capital ... just like US.
Bush can not do a thing, and he is busy playing at the Olympics with out a
care in the world. We have seen that before - huh !
Iran has finished an oil deal with China ... and now they are working on a
mutual defense pack ... with Chinese troops in Iran ... welcomed with
cheering flag waving crowds.
China moves after the Olympics ... Bush can not do a thing about it.
He is busy earning the Nobel Peace Prize with the Whore of Babalon.
The Christian Beer Voters gave US this future.
Pat Robertson says his Spearchucking God is out after them ... so there is
some good news.
sumbuddie on da watchtower
:)