Shooter of Abortion Practitioner George Tiller to Rely on Justifiable Homicide
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defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
Remember, Mr. Roeder is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. It's
the American way.
http://www.lifenews.com/state4560.html
Shooter of Abortion Practitioner George Tiller to Rely on Justifiable
Homicide
by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
November 10, 2009
Wichita, KS (LifeNews.com) -- The man who stands accused of shooting and
killing late-term abortion practitioner George Tiller plans to rely on a
justifiable homicide defense in court. Scott Roeder told The Associated
Press in a 30-minute phone interview that he was motivated to kill Tiller
because he does abortions.
In the interview, Roeder admits to killing Tiller and plans to use the
defense even though courts have traditionally rejected it.
"Defending innocent life - that is what prompted me. It is pretty simple,"
the 51-yea-old former militia activists not affiliated with any pro-life
groups, told AP.
Roeder also indicated he would kill another abortion practitioner if he is
ever released from prison.
"[E]ven if one changed her mind it would be worth it," he told AP from jail.
"No, I don't have any regrets."
--
J Young
Jvis...@live.com
W.T.S.
news:39a93i....@news.alt.net...
> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
> Remember, Mr. Roeder is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. It's
> the American way. http://www.lifenews.com/state4560.html
American way is the right to federally funded abortion on demand without
argument or debate or permission from anyone. Anyone who obstructs, tries
to obstruct, or even talks or writes about obstructing abortion, both needs
and deserves to be killed or maimed to the point that they are no longer an
obstruction to anything. No, that doesn't include a trial. We already know
this bastard is guilty, take him out somewhere and burn him at the stake.
Baby, bad. Abortion, good.
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"W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Just like Richard Jewel and the Scottsboro Boys.
--
J Young
Jvis...@live.com
W.T.S.
> Jvis...@live.com
Richard Jewel and the Scottsboro Boys never obstructed abortion, never
murdered anyone in front of witnesses in church, and never confessed or
boasted about their guilt. Mr. Roeder deserves an awful death for his
crimes. He deserves an awful death for speaking against abortion. Anyone
who gets in the way of an abortionist or a woman wanting an abortion is the
lowest of the low. Abortion obstructers need killing.
x
> "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
> news:39a93i....@news.alt.net...
>> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
>> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
>> Remember, Mr. Roeder is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. It's
>> the American way. http://www.lifenews.com/state4560.html
> The American way is to protect the rights of minorities and women.
Unless they are not yet born
Syd M.
> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
> Remember, Mr. Roeder is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. It's
> the American way.
>
And yet, you've already tried and condemned Dr. Tiller solely because
he performed abortions.
Hypocrite.
PDW
Syd M.
> W.T.S. wrote:
> > "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote in message
> >news:39a93i....@news.alt.net...
> >> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
> >> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
> >> Remember, Mr. Roeder is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. It's
> > The American way is to protect the rights of minorities and women.
>
> Unless they are not yet born
No.
PDW
x
question should go back to the Supreme Court as a challenge to Roe v
Wade. I hope a less ideological Court than Blackmun's will make a more
biologically informed decision this time.
x
solely because he murdered people. yeah -- why not?
Syd M.
> The defence depends on whether fetuses are human beings.
Then you've already lost.
PDW
Syd M.
You condemned him on false evidence, asshole- He did not kill anyone.
PDW
Ray Fischer
>All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
>defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
He murdered a man in cold blood in front of dozens of witnessess.
But I am not at all surprised to see you nazi turds try to excuse his
actions.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
x
really"
x
x
x
Killing the bad to protect the innocent. Sounds OK to me.
Jimbo
> defendant
Just like a catholic, supporting murderers, thieves, and pedophiles.
IAAH
Too bad, so sad, that assertion has already been
demolished.
--
"I do not pretend to be able to prove that there
is no God. I equally cannot
prove that Satan is a fiction. The Christian god
may exist; so may the gods of
Olympus, or of ancient Egypt, or of Babylon. But
no one of these hypotheses is
more probable than any other: they lie outside the
region of even probable
knowledge, and therefore there is no reason to
consider any of them."
Bertrand Russell
Jimbo
> Ray Fischer wrote:
It was nothing less than cold-blooded murder.
LC
"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
news:39a93i....@news.alt.net...
> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
What's to jump?
He admits to it, and proudly.
> Remember, Mr. Roeder is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty.
Which, given his ludricous defense strategy, will be the final verdict.
Let's hope he puts on a good show.
> It's the American way.
And so is Old Sparky.
Enjoy the ride, Roeder!
<bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzttttttttttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!>
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"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" <Jvis...@live.com> PARROTED:
> [Murderer] of [Compassionate Abortion Provider],
> George Tiller, to Rely on Justifiable Homicide
...thus ENSURING that his goose will be forever cooked!
ROTFL!!! Works for me!!
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��� A True American HERO! ���
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x <x...@y.com> wrote:
> The defence depends on whether fetuses are human beings.
And they are NOT. He's thoroughly screwed.
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
x
It's a load of nonsense. Real crackpot biology stuff.
It ignores the difference between meiosis, mitosis and syngamy.
x
It was defending the lives of the innocent.
x
x
> "Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" <Jvis...@live.com> PARROTED:
>
>
>> [Murderer] of [Compassionate Abortion Provider],
>> George Tiller, to Rely on Justifiable Homicide
Compassionate abortion provider? An oxymoron.
x
>
> "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
> news:39a93i....@news.alt.net...
>
>> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
>> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in
>> court.
>
> What's to jump?
> He admits to it, and proudly.
>
>> Remember, Mr. Roeder is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty.
>
> Which, given his ludricous defense strategy, will be the final verdict.
> Let's hope he puts on a good show.
>
>> It's the American way.
Taking the law into your own hands is the Ameerican way. That's what
your American Revolution was, after all.
x
> On 11/11/09 5:46 AM, * x wrote:
>> Syd M. wrote:
>>> On Nov 11, 2:52 am, x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>>>> Syd M. wrote:
>>>>> On Nov 11, 12:54 am, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions
>>>>>> regarding the
>>>>>> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented
>>>>>> in court.
>>>>>> Remember, Mr. Roeder is to be presumed innocent until proven
>>>>>> guilty. It's
>>>>>> the American way.
>>>>> And yet, you've already tried and condemned Dr. Tiller solely because
>>>>> he performed abortions.
>>>>> Hypocrite.
>>>> solely because he murdered people. yeah -- why not?
>>>
>>> You condemned him on false evidence, asshole- He did not kill anyone.
>>>
>>> PDW
>> He killed fetuses which are people. See my new thread "It's very
>> simple really"
>
> Too bad, so sad, that assertion has already been demolished.
>
Remind me again. How was that?
x
> x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>
>
>> The defence depends on whether fetuses are human beings.
>
> And they are NOT. He's thoroughly screwed.
The proof is in my new thread "It's very simply really"
LC
"x" <x...@y.com> wrote in message
news:PdBKm.54041$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> LC wrote:
No, that's what outlaws and vigilantes do.
And, when apprehended, they pay the price.
> That's what your American Revolution was, after all.
*yawn*
Keep tilting at windmills, x=0.
Your willingness to expose your peculier sort of nuttiness is nothing but
instructive.
Ray Fischer
Ray Fischer
Tom S.
>All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
>defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
>Remember, Mr. Roeder is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. It's
>the American way.
>
>http://www.lifenews.com/state4560.html
>
Their motto: If it is a pro-life lie, Print it!
>Shooter of Abortion Practitioner George Tiller to Rely on Justifiable
>Homicide
So did, Paul Hill. Would you like to remind people of what became of
Hill??
Tom S.
Jimbo
It was cold blooded, premeditated murder. Hopefully this guy will
never see the light of day again.
Jimbo
No, they were fetuses, living in someone else's body, that someone no
longer wanted them there.
Now, back to the topic.
The Chief Instigator
> question should go back to the Supreme Court as a challenge to Roe v
> Wade. I hope a less ideological Court than Blackmun's will make a more
> biologically informed decision this time.
...and since you're an Australian asshole, the Supremes won't waste an
instant on your whining.
--
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www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Houston 5, San Antonio 2 (November 7)
NEXT GAME: Friday, November 13 at Lake Erie, 6:35
The Chief Instigator
You have no say in the decisions of the Supreme Court, brat.
The Chief Instigator
The proof was in the bottle you drank while typing your slumgullion.
x
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:46:37 GMT, x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>> Syd M. wrote:
>>> On Nov 11, 2:52 am, x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>>>> The defence depends on whether fetuses are human beings.
>>> Then you've already lost.
>>>
>>> PDW
>> He killed fetuses which are people. See my new thread "It's very simple
>> really"
>
> You have no say in the decisions of the Supreme Court, brat.
>
x
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:03:52 GMT, x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>> (?`?.?Craig Chilton?.???) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:52:15 GMT,
>>> x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The defence depends on whether fetuses are human beings.
>>> And they are NOT. He's thoroughly screwed.
>> The proof is in my new thread "It's very simply really"
>
> The proof was in the bottle you drank while typing your slumgullion.
>
The Chief Instigator
> W.T.S. wrote:
>> "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>> news:39a93i....@news.alt.net...
>>> the American way. http://www.lifenews.com/state4560.html
>
> Unless they are not yet born
That's the decision of the pregnant woman...and a solid majority of them
choose to give birth. (From the CDC numbers for 2005, the last year before
that with fewer abortions in this country was likely before a lot of you
were born: 1974, which had 763,476 compared to 2005's 820,151. (In 1990,
they peaked at 1,429,279, and in the following years, the annual numbers have
decreased except in two years: 1989 and 1996.) You might as well get used
to it.
The Chief Instigator
>>> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
>>> Remember, Mr. Roeder is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. It's
>>> the American way.
>>>
>>
>> he performed abortions.
>> Hypocrite.
>>
>
> solely because he murdered people. yeah -- why not?
Maybe some day, you'll extricate your head from your ass and figure out
personhood largely arrives at birth, in the legal aspect. (I won't expect
that from you at all. You're that stupid.)
x
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:52:15 GMT, x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>> The defence depends on whether fetuses are human beings. By rights, that
>> question should go back to the Supreme Court as a challenge to Roe v
>> Wade. I hope a less ideological Court than Blackmun's will make a more
>> biologically informed decision this time.
>
> ...and since you're an Australian asshole, the Supremes won't waste an
> instant on your whining.
>
x
I'm good. You're bad.
x
The Chief Instigator
>>>>> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
>>>>> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
>>>>> the American way.
>>>> And yet, you've already tried and condemned Dr. Tiller solely because
>>>> he performed abortions.
>>>> Hypocrite.
>>> solely because he murdered people. yeah -- why not?
>>
>>
> He killed fetuses which are people. See my new thread "It's very simple
> really"
Too bad this country refuses to use your invalid legal fantasy.
x
Fetuses are people. See my thread "It's very simple really"
Abortion doesn't just eject unwanted guests. It rips them limb from limb.
x
>
> "x" <x...@y.com> wrote in message
> news:PdBKm.54041$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> LC wrote:
>
>>> "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>>> news:39a93i....@news.alt.net...
>
>>>> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
>>>> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in
>>>> court.
>
>>> What's to jump?
>>> He admits to it, and proudly.
>
>>>> Remember, Mr. Roeder is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty.
>
>>> Which, given his ludricous defense strategy, will be the final verdict.
>>> Let's hope he puts on a good show.
>
>>>> It's the American way.
>
>> Taking the law into your own hands is the Ameerican way.
>
> No, that's what outlaws and vigilantes do.
> And, when apprehended, they pay the price.
>
>> That's what your American Revolution was, after all.
>
> *yawn*
You just go to sleep to avoid inconvenient truths?
> Keep tilting at windmills, x=0.
> Your willingness to expose your peculier sort of nuttiness is nothing
> but instructive.
Keep taunting me, it has no effect.
The Chief Instigator
You have already confirmed that in this particular issue, your assertions
can reliably be regarded to be fact-free. (Take the credit for that, as you
earned it.)
The Chief Instigator
>>> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
>>> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
>>
>>
>> But I am not at all surprised to see you nazi turds try to excuse his
>> actions.
>>
>
...and since you're anything but reticent as to who you deem to be bad, it's
just as well you'll never be allowed out of your country.
x
x
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:53:43 GMT, x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>> J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
>>>> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
>>> He murdered a man in cold blood in front of dozens of witnessess.
>>>
>>> But I am not at all surprised to see you nazi turds try to excuse his
>>> actions.
>>>
>> Killing the bad to protect the innocent. Sounds OK to me.
>
> ...and since you're anything but reticent as to who you deem to be bad, it's
> just as well you'll never be allowed out of your country.
>
x
x
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:46:29 GMT, x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>> Syd M. wrote:
>>> On Nov 11, 2:52 am, x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>>>> Syd M. wrote:
>>>>> On Nov 11, 12:54 am, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
>>>>>> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
>>>>>> Remember, Mr. Roeder is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. It's
>>>>>> the American way.
>>>>> And yet, you've already tried and condemned Dr. Tiller solely because
>>>>> he performed abortions.
>>>>> Hypocrite.
>>>> solely because he murdered people. yeah -- why not?
>>> You condemned him on false evidence, asshole- He did not kill anyone.
>>>
>>> PDW
>> He killed fetuses which are people. See my new thread "It's very simple
>> really"
>
> Too bad this country refuses to use your invalid legal fantasy.
>
What's legal about the fantasy?
LC
> LC wrote:
>> "x" <x...@y.com> wrote in message
>> news:PdBKm.54041$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>> LC wrote:
>>>> "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:39a93i....@news.alt.net...
>>>>> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding
>>>>> the defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented
>>>>> in court.
>>>> What's to jump?
>>>> He admits to it, and proudly.
>>>>> Remember, Mr. Roeder is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty.
>>>> Which, given his ludricous defense strategy, will be the final verdict.
>>>> Let's hope he puts on a good show.
>>>>> It's the American way.
>>> Taking the law into your own hands is the Ameerican way.
>> No, that's what outlaws and vigilantes do.
>> And, when apprehended, they pay the price.
>>> That's what your American Revolution was, after all.
>> *yawn*
> You just go to sleep to avoid inconvenient truths?
No, but I'm bored silly by your gift for inane analogies, x=0.
>> Keep tilting at windmills, x=0.
>> Your willingness to expose your peculier sort of nuttiness is nothing but
>> instructive.
> Keep taunting me, it has no effect.
Yet you're compelled to return for more.
Funny how that works with addled nutcases such as yourself.
Otoh, it amuses me to annoy and expose kooks.
That's what counts, isn't it?
In any event, watch and learn as the court deals with the "justifiable
homicide" farce.
x
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:52:55 GMT, x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>> Syd M. wrote:
>>> On Nov 11, 12:54 am, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>>>> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
>>>> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
>>>> Remember, Mr. Roeder is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. It's
>>>> the American way.
>>>>
>>> And yet, you've already tried and condemned Dr. Tiller solely because
>>> he performed abortions.
>>> Hypocrite.
>>>
>> solely because he murdered people. yeah -- why not?
>
> Maybe some day, you'll extricate your head from your ass and figure out
> personhood largely arrives at birth, in the legal aspect. (I won't expect
> that from you at all. You're that stupid.)
>
Person is an ambiguous concept.
If it means being recognised at law with rights, yes, it begins at birth
for natural persons
If it means the singular of "people", a fetus is a person because:
people are organisms
hence they arise when organisms arise
those organisms arise when syngamy is complete
hence people arise when syngamy is complete
hence the zygote, embryo, fetus are people
hence each zygote embryo fetus is a person
You are using word games to disguise the fact the abortion is homicide,
and almost always unjustifiable homicide.
The Chief Instigator
So? You've already branded yourself as a moron and asshole. The rest of us
get to watch.
x
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:33:19 GMT, x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>> W.T.S. wrote:
>>> "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>>> news:39a93i....@news.alt.net...
>>>> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
>>>> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
>>>> Remember, Mr. Roeder is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. It's
>>>> the American way. http://www.lifenews.com/state4560.html
>>> The American way is to protect the rights of minorities and women.
>> Unless they are not yet born
>
> That's the decision of the pregnant woman...and a solid majority of them
> choose to give birth. (From the CDC numbers for 2005, the last year before
> that with fewer abortions in this country was likely before a lot of you
> were born: 1974, which had 763,476 compared to 2005's 820,151. (In 1990,
> they peaked at 1,429,279, and in the following years, the annual numbers have
> decreased except in two years: 1989 and 1996.) You might as well get used
> to it.
>
(mother? father?) too I suppose.
The war on abortion will go on until it stops. You get used to it.
The Chief Instigator
I don't consume alcohol, kid. I learnt that lesson a couple of decades and
change ago.
x
>> Shooter of Abortion Practitioner George Tiller to Rely on Justifiable
>> Homicide
>
> So did, Paul Hill. Would you like to remind people of what became of
> Hill??
>
> Tom S.
He suffered the same fate as the abolitionist John Brown, the man whose
brave moral leadership precipitated the civil war.
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x <x...@y.com> wrote:
> (�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
>> x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>> <flush garbage>
>>
>> HERE are the FACTS:
>>
>> http://www.Egalitarian.biz/Human-Life-Continuum.html
> It's...
...solidly FACTUAL.
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> (�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
>> x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>>> The defence depends on whether fetuses are human beings.
>> And they are NOT. He's thoroughly screwed.
> The proof is in my new thread "It's very simply really."
The ONLY thing you ever manage to prove in your posts is
your magnitude as a complete FOOL.
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>> "Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" <Jvis...@live.com> PARROTED:
>>> [Murderer] of [Compassionate Abortion Provider],
>>> George Tiller, to Rely on Justifiable Homicide
> Compassionate abortion provider? An oxymoron.
Quite the OPPOSITE. **ALL** competent and qualified
abortion providers are compassionate people. Some of the
world's greatest (and in the USA, bravest!) HEROES!
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��� Rest in Peace ���
��� George Richard Tiller, MD ���
��� A True American HERO! ���
��� August 8, 1941 � May 31, 2009 ���
��� Visit -- http://iamdrtiller.com ���
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Perhaps when he gets out of prison. He has no legal basis for
challenging Roe v. Wade at the current time since such matters are not
decided in criminal court.
Jimbo
> Jimbo wrote:
> > On Nov 11, 11:00 am, x <x...@y.com> wrote:
> >> Jimbo wrote:
> >>> On Nov 11, 12:54 am, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
> >>>> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
> >>>> defendant
> >>> Just like a catholic, supporting murderers, thieves, and pedophiles.
> >> None of the fetuses were murderers thieves or pedophiles
>
> > No, they were fetuses, living in someone else's body, that someone no
> > longer wanted them there.
>
> > Now, back to the topic.
>
> Fetuses are people.
That's your opinion, and irrelevant to the topic of murder. Fetuses
are not considered "persons" under the law, nor recognized as citizens
protected under the Constitution.
Jimbo
> The Chief Instigator wrote:
> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:52:55 GMT, x <x...@y.com> wrote:
> >> Syd M. wrote:
> >>> On Nov 11, 12:54 am, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
> >>>> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
> >>>> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
> >>>> Remember, Mr. Roeder is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. It's
> >>>> the American way.
>
> >>> And yet, you've already tried and condemned Dr. Tiller solely because
> >>> he performed abortions.
> >>> Hypocrite.
>
> >> solely because he murdered people. yeah -- why not?
>
> > Maybe some day, you'll extricate your head from your ass and figure out
> > personhood largely arrives at birth, in the legal aspect. (I won't expect
> > that from you at all. You're that stupid.)
>
> Person is an ambiguous concept.
>
> If it means being recognised at law with rights, yes, it begins at birth
> for natural persons
>
The term "person" or "persons" is not a legal ambiquity, it has a
specific meaning under the law.
> If it means the singular of "people", a fetus is a person
Not under current law.
Syd
> >> Syd M. wrote:
> >>> On Nov 11, 12:54 am, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
> >>>> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
> >>>> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
> >>>> Remember, Mr. Roeder is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. It's
> >>>> the American way.
> >>> And yet, you've already tried and condemned Dr. Tiller solely because
> >>> he performed abortions.
> >>> Hypocrite.
> >> solely because he murdered people. yeah -- why not?
>
>
>
> He killed fetuses which are people. See my new thread "It's very simple
> really"
No matter how many times you repeat that lie, it's still a lie,
asshole.
PDW
Syd
> Syd M. wrote:
> > On Nov 11, 2:52 am, x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> He killed fetuses which are people. See my new thread "It's very simple
> really"
You can repeat that lie until you turn blue, but it'll never be true.
PDW
Syd
> >> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
> >> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
>
>
> > But I am not at all surprised to see you nazi turds try to excuse his
> > actions.
>
> I was an unauthorised but totally understandable execution
Then your a terrorist sympathizer, asshole.
PDW
Syd
> Ray Fischer wrote:
> > J <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
> >> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
> >> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
>
> > He murdered a man in cold blood in front of dozens of witnessess.
>
> > But I am not at all surprised to see you nazi turds try to excuse his
> > actions.
>
Then your also a arrogant vigilante.
PDW
Syd
> >> Ray Fischer wrote:
> >>> J <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
> >>>> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
> >>>> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
> >>> He murdered a man in cold blood in front of dozens of witnessess.
> >>> But I am not at all surprised to see you nazi turds try to excuse his
> >>> actions.
>
>
> It was defending the lives of the innocent.
Like he said, asshole, cold blooded murder.
\
PDW
Syd
> The Chief Instigator wrote:
> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:33:19 GMT, x <x...@y.com> wrote:
> >> W.T.S. wrote:
> >>>news:39a93i....@news.alt.net...
> >>>> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
> >>>> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
> >>>> Remember, Mr. Roeder is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. It's
> >>> The American way is to protect the rights of minorities and women.
> >> Unless they are not yet born
>
> > That's the decision of the pregnant woman...and a solid majority of them
> > choose to give birth. (From the CDC numbers for 2005, the last year before
> > that with fewer abortions in this country was likely before a lot of you
> > were born: 1974, which had 763,476 compared to 2005's 820,151. (In 1990,
> > they peaked at 1,429,279, and in the following years, the annual numbers have
> > decreased except in two years: 1989 and 1996.) You might as well get used
> > to it.
>
> And if infanticide were legal you'd say its a decision of the parent
> (mother? father?) too I suppose.
>
> The war on abortion will go on until it stops. You get used to it.
Nope.
PDW
Dutch
"Syd" <pdwri...@yahoo.com> wrote
----->
What if the Supreme Court were to decide it was true? Would it be true then?
Dr. Smartass, Troll Veterinarian
> Subject: Shooter of Abortion Practitioner George Tiller to Rely on
> Justifiable Homicide
He should meet his end by firing squad. All small-caliber, all low-
velocity, and all gut-shots.
--
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Hey, GOPpers: Grab a Mop!
The Chief Instigator
>>> The defence depends on whether fetuses are human beings. By rights, that
>>> question should go back to the Supreme Court as a challenge to Roe v
>>> Wade. I hope a less ideological Court than Blackmun's will make a more
>>> biologically informed decision this time.
>>
>> ...and since you're an Australian asshole, the Supremes won't waste an
>> instant on your whining.
>>
> Your bum smells.
So, you're skipping school Thursday morning in Oz? Can't say as I'm
surprised at all.
The Chief Instigator
> The Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:52:55 GMT, x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>>> Syd M. wrote:
>>>> On Nov 11, 12:54 am, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
>>>>> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
>>>>> Remember, Mr. Roeder is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. It's
>>>>> the American way.
>>>>>
>>>> And yet, you've already tried and condemned Dr. Tiller solely because
>>>> he performed abortions.
>>>> Hypocrite.
>>>>
>>> solely because he murdered people. yeah -- why not?
>>
>> Maybe some day, you'll extricate your head from your ass and figure out
>> personhood largely arrives at birth, in the legal aspect. (I won't expect
>> that from you at all. You're that stupid.)
>>
>
> Person is an ambiguous concept.
To morons like you, at least.
> If it means being recognised at law with rights, yes, it begins at birth
> for natural persons
>
> If it means the singular of "people", a fetus is a person because:
> people are organisms
> hence they arise when organisms arise
> those organisms arise when syngamy is complete
> hence people arise when syngamy is complete
> hence the zygote, embryo, fetus are people
> hence each zygote embryo fetus is a person
>
> You are using word games to disguise the fact the abortion is homicide,
> and almost always unjustifiable homicide.
You're a sleazy crackhead who wants your way, the consequences be damned.
You won't be served in this country. I'll bet your life on it. (That
doesn't mean you'll be executed. Dead assholes like you still can't absorb
knowledge.)
The Chief Instigator
> Ray Fischer wrote:
>> x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>>> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
>>>>> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
>>>>
>>>> But I am not at all surprised to see you nazi turds try to excuse his
>>>> actions.
>>
>
> I'm good. You're bad.
You'll never get here to find out, for obvious reasons.
The Chief Instigator
You damned sure are far too bad, indeed.
> What's legal about the fantasy?
He was a doctor attending to his patients, who sought his services. (IMO,
if you think he deserved to be murdered for that, you deserve to be
bludgeoned to within a millimeter of your useless waste of a life, and then
see if you've enough upstairs to grasp the lesson.)
The Chief Instigator
> Jimbo wrote:
>> On Nov 11, 11:00 am, x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>>>> On Nov 11, 12:54 am, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
>>>>> defendant
>>> None of the fetuses were murderers thieves or pedophiles
>>
>>
>> No, they were fetuses, living in someone else's body, that someone no
>> longer wanted them there.
>>
>> Now, back to the topic.
>
>
> Abortion doesn't just eject unwanted guests. It rips them limb from limb.
Quit attempting to inflict your personal psychoses upon those who dare to
dissent from your morbidly obese self-image.
The Chief Instigator
>>> IAAH wrote:
>>>> On 11/11/09 5:46 AM, * x wrote:
>>>>> Syd M. wrote:
>>>>>> On Nov 11, 2:52 am, x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Nov 11, 12:54 am, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions
>>>>>>>>> regarding the
>>>>>>>>> in court.
>>>>>>>>> Remember, Mr. Roeder is to be presumed innocent until proven
>>>>>>>>> guilty. It's
>>>>>>>>> the American way.
>>>>>>>> And yet, you've already tried and condemned Dr. Tiller solely because
>>>>>>>> he performed abortions.
>>>>>>>> Hypocrite.
>>>>>>> solely because he murdered people. yeah -- why not?
>>>>>> You condemned him on false evidence, asshole- He did not kill anyone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PDW
>>>>> simple really"
>>>> Too bad, so sad, that assertion has already been demolished.
>>>>
>>> Remind me again. How was that?
>>
>> You have already confirmed that in this particular issue, your assertions
>> can reliably be regarded to be fact-free. (Take the credit for that, as you
>> earned it.)
>>
> As I thought. No reminder. Nothing to remind me of.
That's what happens when you devote what's left of your brain to your
obsession. Sucks to be you, wot?
The Chief Instigator
It isn't legal, so maybe you should shove your head back up your fat ass and
deal with the real world for once in your life. We're nowhere near getting
within a few thousand miles of even considering such an action, unless the
USA starts cranking out babies faster than China, and the probabilities of
that are not exactly high at all for obvious reasons...and if it gets to
that point, the game will have already been over, and there'll have been a
historical famine that will have wiped out a few hundred million of our own,
more than likely...and it won't confine itself to national boundaries.
> The war on abortion will go on until it stops. You get used to it.
I'll get used to seeing the details of your funeral, because you were too
stupid to prevent it.
The Chief Instigator
> Ray Fischer wrote:
>> x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>> J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
>>>>
>>>> But I am not at all surprised to see you nazi turds try to excuse his
>>>> actions.
>>>>
>>
>>
> If there is an excuse, it's not terrorism.
You're a budding terrorist. Get your career done with, ASAP.
Ray Fischer
>The war on abortion will go on until it stops. You get used to it.
Another insane pro-liar who thinks that murdering people for his
cult is a good idea.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>>>>> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
>>>>> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
>>>>> the American way.
>>>>>
>>>> he performed abortions.
>>>> Hypocrite.
>>>>
>>> solely because he murdered people. yeah -- why not?
>>
>> personhood largely arrives at birth, in the legal aspect. (I won't expect
>> that from you at all. You're that stupid.)
>
>Person is an ambiguous concept.
Only to crazy people who refuse to accept the facts.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>>>>> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
>>>>> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
>>>>
>>>> But I am not at all surprised to see you nazi turds try to excuse his
>>>> actions.
>>>>
>>> I was an unauthorised but totally understandable execution
>>
>> You terrorsts always have some excuse for murdering people.
>>
>If there is an excuse, it's not terrorism.
So destroying the World Trade Center wasn't terrorism, according to
you.
Haven't you yet figured out that your cult has made you insane?
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>Ray Fischer wrote:
>> x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>> J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
>>>>> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
>>>> He murdered a man in cold blood in front of dozens of witnessess.
>>>>
>>>> But I am not at all surprised to see you nazi turds try to excuse his
>>>> actions.
>>
>> Then let's "execute" you.
>
>I'm good. You're bad.
You're an advocate for terrorism. That makes you evil.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
x
Too bad for you.
x
We all die eventually.
x
> x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>> The war on abortion will go on until it stops. You get used to it.
>
> Another insane pro-liar who thinks that murdering people for his
> cult is a good idea.
>
x
x
x
By your own criterion, that would be to murder me wouldn't it.
Are you threatening me with that?
x
>>>> Syd M. wrote:
>>>>> On Nov 11, 12:54 am, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
>>>>>> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
>>>>>> Remember, Mr. Roeder is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. It's
>>>>>> the American way.
>>>>> And yet, you've already tried and condemned Dr. Tiller solely because
>>>>> he performed abortions.
>>>>> Hypocrite.
>>>> solely because he murdered people. yeah -- why not?
>>> personhood largely arrives at birth, in the legal aspect. (I won't expect
>>> that from you at all. You're that stupid.)
>> Person is an ambiguous concept.
>>
>> for natural persons
>>
>
> specific meaning under the law.
God, you're stupid. I didn't say it was a "legal ambiguity".
>
>> If it means the singular of "people", a fetus is a person
>
> Not under current law.
I'm not talking about the law. I'm talking about the English language,
you cretin!
x
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:39:33 GMT, x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>> The Chief Instigator wrote:
>>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:52:55 GMT, x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>>>> Syd M. wrote:
>>>>> On Nov 11, 12:54 am, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>> All fair minded people should not jump to any conclusions regarding the
>>>>>> defendant in this case until all the evidence has been presented in court.
>>>>>> Remember, Mr. Roeder is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. It's
>>>>>> the American way.
>>>>>>
>>>>> And yet, you've already tried and condemned Dr. Tiller solely because
>>>>> he performed abortions.
>>>>> Hypocrite.
>>>>>
>>>> solely because he murdered people. yeah -- why not?
>>> Maybe some day, you'll extricate your head from your ass and figure out
>>> personhood largely arrives at birth, in the legal aspect. (I won't expect
>>> that from you at all. You're that stupid.)
>>>
>> Person is an ambiguous concept.
>
> To morons like you, at least.
I see the ambiguity, that's why I'm not deceived by it.
If you don't see it, you are the deceived one.
But, I think you do see it and are just a filthy liar.
>
>> If it means being recognised at law with rights, yes, it begins at birth
>> for natural persons
>>
>> If it means the singular of "people", a fetus is a person because:
>> people are organisms
>> hence they arise when organisms arise
>> those organisms arise when syngamy is complete
>> hence people arise when syngamy is complete
>> hence the zygote, embryo, fetus are people
>> hence each zygote embryo fetus is a person
>>
>> You are using word games to disguise the fact the abortion is homicide,
>> and almost always unjustifiable homicide.
>
> You're a sleazy crackhead who wants your way, the consequences be damned.
> You won't be served in this country. I'll bet your life on it. (That
> doesn't mean you'll be executed. Dead assholes like you still can't absorb
> knowledge.)
O didums! Did I upset you sweety?
x
Your bum smells
x
>>>>>
>>>> He killed fetuses which are people. See my new thread "It's very simple
>>>> really"
>>>
>> You have no say in what I say, dickhead
>
> So? You've already branded yourself as a moron and asshole. The rest of us
> get to watch.
>
Believe that and you'll believe anything.
Oh, that's right! -- you do anyway.
x
> On Nov 11, 5:46 am, x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>> Syd M. wrote:
>>> On Nov 11, 2:52 am, x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>>>> The defence depends on whether fetuses are human beings.
>>> Then you've already lost.
>>> PDW
>> He killed fetuses which are people. See my new thread "It's very simple
>> really"
>
>
Ditto
x
>>>> (?`?.?Craig Chilton?.???) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:52:15 GMT,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The defence depends on whether fetuses are human beings.
>>>> The proof is in my new thread "It's very simply really"
>>> The proof was in the bottle you drank while typing your slumgullion.
>>>
>> A comment worthy of someone of your obvious intellectual caliber.
>
> I don't consume alcohol, kid. I learnt that lesson a couple of decades and
> change ago.
>
Now there's an admission. It explains a lot.
x
>
> "Syd" <pdwri...@yahoo.com> wrote On Nov 11, 5:46 am, x <x...@y.com>
> wrote:
>> Syd M. wrote:
>> > On Nov 11, 2:52 am, x <x...@y.com> wrote:
>> >> The defence depends on whether fetuses are human beings.
>>
>>
>> > PDW
>>
>> He killed fetuses which are people. See my new thread "It's very simple
>> really"
>
> You can repeat that lie until you turn blue, but it'll never be true.
>
> What if the Supreme Court were to decide it was true? Would it be true
> then?
Ah, the voice of reason. They won't listen to that. But it's nice to
know you are out there.