Too fuckin' bad fer you, huh?
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TOO BAD JESUS FUCKER, MCSAME IS NOT A US CITIZEN, BORN IN SPIC PANAMA,
SUCK IT JESUS
Proof?
JAM
Why Senator John McCain Cannot Be President: Eleven Months and a
Hundred Yards Short of Citizenship
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract-id=1157621
Gabriel J. Chin
University of Arizona - James E. Rogers College of Law; University of
Arizona - School of Public Administration and Policy
Arizona Legal Studies Discussion Paper No. 08-14
Abstract:
Senator McCain was born in 1936 in the Canal Zone to U.S. citizen
parents. The Canal Zone was territory controlled by the United States,
but it was not incorporated into the Union.
As requested by Senator McCain's campaign, distinguished
constitutional lawyers Laurence Tribe and Theodore Olson examined the
law and issued a detailed opinion offering two reasons that Senator
McCain was a natural born citizen.
Neither is sound under current law. The Tribe-Olson Opinion suggests
that the Canal Zone, then under exclusive U.S. jurisdiction, may have
been covered by the Fourteenth Amendment's grant of citizenship to
"all persons born . . . in the United States." However, in the Insular
Cases, the Supreme Court held that "unincorporated territories" were
not part of the United States for constitutional purposes.
Accordingly, many decisions hold that persons born in unincorporated
territories are not Fourteenth Amendment citizens. The Tribe-Olson
Opinion also suggests that Senator McCain obtained citizenship by
statute.
However, the only statute in effect in 1936 did not cover the Canal
Zone. Recognizing the gap, in 1937, Congress passed a citizenship law
applicable only to the Canal Zone, granting Senator McCain
citizenship, but eleven months too late for him to be a citizen at
birth.
Because Senator John McCain was not a citizen at birth, he is not a
"natural born Citizen" and thus is not "eligible to the Office of
President" under the Constitution.
You're an idiot. Fact
Hawaii is a state. Fact
Is there a special reason why you posted that to a Disney Group. That's
weird
Wrong.
From votesmart.org:
<<Senator Barack H. Obama Jr. (IL)
Background Information
Gender: Male
Family: Wife: Michelle
2 Children: Malia, Sasha.
Birth Date: 08/04/1961
Birthplace: Honolulu, HI>>
Hawaii became a state in 1959. Barack Obama is a natural born citizen
of the United States.
Medusa
AA #2281
>Fact.
He was born in Hawaii. Deal with it.
rec.arts.disney.parks? WTF, over?
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"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
All of which is obvious to anyone whose hair is not on fire.
(Hard to believe you have to point all this out...)
You know this, of course, because you were a party to the background
check that was done before he could be sworn into the United States
Senate.
Disclosure related to this confidential investigation, of course, is a
crime.
HE WAS BORN IN HAWAII, JESUS FUCKER
Yes, just because you said it, it is a fact.
Tartarus
Fact:
Hawaii is part of the united States of America.
Mark.
Who *exactly*in his family said he was born in Kenya?
His Mother? His Grandmother?
Or his third cousin 4 times removed who has never met him or been
outside of Kenya?
> Are they liars?
Could well be - or insane or just ignorant.
What's your excuse?
Mark.
The fact is, you're a deranged kooktard.
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Shillmaster
And his mother is an American citizen.
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>In article <eeed7f12-36fc-4595-83a5-
>7d349e...@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com>
>How come his family said he was born in Kenya?
>
>Are they liars?
>
>
Either that or his mother,an American citizen is a liar. Her being an
American citizen, if he were born outside the country, he would still
be American.
Fritz Wuehler wrote:
> How come his family said he was born in Kenya?
>
> Are they liars?
No, you are just wrong. His _father_ was born in Kenya.
Any more stupid rumors you'd like to spread?
Medusa
AA #2281
Bull shit, McCain Sr, was on active duty at the time John was born.
So John is a citizen, who I hope will come close to being elected
Pres.
Hey moron, Arnold Schwarzenegger is a "citizen", so is Henry Kissinger
and Craig Ferguson ... and NONE of them can be President.
When you figure out why, get back to us.
John's done.
That's probably true. Now, the question is when Obama takes office and if
things get worse under his leadership; all of the people
who talked all the trash in this newsgroup about McCain and/or Republicans,
where will they be found?
Do you plan on hunting them down or something?
No, just planning on giving them what they have dished out in here. It's
going to be interesting reading the excuses
and witnessing the hypocrisy. I can bet you, everything will be blamed on
Bush. Don't get me wrong, Bush deserves
his criticism, he sure has made a mess of things. But, he didn't do it
alone.
I just don't see Obama doing great things and I don't think things are going
to get any better for a long time.
You are right about Schwarzenegger, Kissinger, and Ferguson but
totally wrong about McCain. I know you will never figure out why so
don't waste your time, just know that McCain is totally qualified to
be President.
Now just shut the fuck up and quit making yourself look like the fool
that you are.
Things ARE going to get worse.
Who would have thought that the biggest nationalizations in recorded
history would take place under a right wing leader of the US?
Things are going to get a LOT worse, I'd not want to take the lead right
now, I'd make a fob to the opposition to run with it. I'm not brave.
>
The answer to your question is easy. They will be here blaming Bush
for at least the next 20 years.
Yes
>
> Who would have thought that the biggest nationalizations in recorded
> history would take place under a right wing leader of the US?
You see, that's your problem. You wish to place blame on only part of the
responsible party.
The mess we are in, and I'm talking the whole picture, started further
back - before this current administration.
You can go back to the late 70's and start looking at the small pieces of
the puzzle that eventually built up to the bigger puzzle
>
> Things are going to get a LOT worse, I'd not want to take the lead right
> now, I'd make a fob to the opposition to run with it. I'm not brave.
Hell no I wouldn't want to take the lead right now and I can only hope who
ever is elected can do the right thing.
>And his mother is an American citizen.
>** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
Apparently there are rules about the actual residency in previous
years of the American citizen if only one parent is a citizen.
>Fact:
>Hawaii is part of the united States of America.
>
>Mark.
So it is. And when there is an actual birth certificate produced that
shows he was born there, the discussion should be over.
>Hey moron, Arnold Schwarzenegger is a "citizen", so is Henry Kissinger
>and Craig Ferguson ... and NONE of them can be President.
>
>When you figure out why, get back to us.
The people you mentioned are naturalized citizens. Are you aware of
the difference?
And McCain's parents were both American citizens.
Did you personally see George W. Bush's birth certificate?
Bill Clinton's?
George H.W. Bush's
Ronald Reagan's?
Any previous President or candidate for President?
Then why Obama's?
Why single him out for this particular treatment?
Just curious.
Mark.
No one questions whether either candidate is qualified under the
Constitution. The only people who bring that up are folks who need a lot
more tinfoil around their ears.
And as soon as you can convince me that we'd still be *having* this
discussion if Obama was white, maybe I'll take your "concerns"
seriously.
Or maybe not....
By the way ... aren't these people who are questioning Obama's
citizenship qualifications the same Republican Party that wanted to do
away with that requirement so they could run The Terminator for prez?
Or was that another Republican Party?
>
>"Jack" <furgfu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:o8WdnSgratBzuHDV...@posted.echolabs...
>>> Bull shit, McCain Sr, was on active duty at the time John
>>> was born. So John is a citizen, who I hope will come
>>> close to being elected Pres.
>>
>> John's done.
>
>That's probably true. Now, the question is when Obama takes office and if
>things get worse under his leadership;
Which they probably won't. After eight years of Bush, things couldn't
get much worse.
> all of the people
>who talked all the trash in this newsgroup about McCain and/or Republicans,
>where will they be found?
We will still be right here, lil bobbi. Unlike you rightards, we of
the moderate and liberal persuasion will continue to espouse and
support our beliefs even in defeat. Because we know we are right and
one day we will prevail.
Tom S.
But then, you have never been known for your ability to think.
Tom S.
Because neocons are racists. They don't want to see a black President,
and they'll try any dirty trick they can think of to see that we don't
get one.
>
>Mark.
Or racists who'll do anything to avoid seeing a black man in the White
House.
(and I can already hear the Kindergarten-level "jokes" that will be
going around about that if Obama wins)
>> ("YYW" over on the Barbarian groups, where they all talk funny and
>> fall sucker for cross-troll threads)
>>No one questions whether either candidate is qualified under the
>>Constitution. The only people who bring that up are folks who need a lot
>>more tinfoil around their ears.
>
> Or racists who'll do anything to avoid seeing a black man in the White
> House.
>
> (and I can already hear the Kindergarten-level "jokes" that will be
> going around about that if Obama wins)
So can we, and RADP *still* never answers crossposts, even though Non
Scrivitemi Linguini Tortellini With Meatballs still wants to throw a
tantrum at us, the last time we all ignored him for telling the joke
twenty-nine times in a row.
Derek Janssen (see that "group header" thing up there, with the four
groups?--Yes, you, a.a, ever heard of it? Here's an idea.) 9_9
eja...@verizon.net
>On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:12:19 -0600, "Reality_Check©" <Rea...@Check.it>
>wrote:
>
>
>>Hey moron, Arnold Schwarzenegger is a "citizen", so is Henry Kissinger
>>and Craig Ferguson ... and NONE of them can be President.
>>
>>When you figure out why, get back to us.
>
>The people you mentioned are naturalized citizens. Are you aware of
>the difference?
>
>And McCain's parents were both American citizens.
'tis better if you argue your factual points with a garden hose.
DCI
Now you don't really expect him to read and understand the
Constitution of the United States?
Medusa
AA #2281
O.K. Idiot none had American citizen for parent, and none were born on
an American Military base.
>In article <devpe4h2bbdphf4ef...@4ax.com>
>Robert <rob...@netportusa.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 19:01:10 -0700 (PDT), stfranc...@yahoo.com
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Oct 7, 6:56 pm, Fritz Wuehler
>> ><fr...@spamexpire-200810.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
>> >> In article <eeed7f12-36fc-4595-83a5-
>> >> 7d349e435...@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Medusa <Medusa4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Oct 7, 3:01 pm, "Non scrivetemi"
>> >> > <nonscrivet...@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info> wrote:
>> >> > > Fact.
>> >>
>> >> > Wrong.
>> >>
>> >> > From votesmart.org:
>> >>
>> >> > <<Senator Barack H. Obama Jr. (IL)
>> >>
>> >> > Background Information
>> >> > Gender: Male
>> >> > Family: Wife: Michelle
>> >> > 2 Children: Malia, Sasha.
>> >> > Birth Date: 08/04/1961
>> >> > Birthplace: Honolulu, HI>>
>> >>
>> >> > Hawaii became a state in 1959. Barack Obama is a natural born citizen
>> >> > of the United States.
>> >>
>> >> > Medusa
>> >>
>> >> > AA #2281
>> >>
>> >> How come his family said he was born in Kenya?
>> >>
>> >> Are they liars?- Hide quoted text -
>> >>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>> >
>> >HE WAS BORN IN HAWAII, JESUS FUCKER
>>
>> And his mother is an American citizen.
>
>His daddy was a spear chucker and his baby Barak was born in a
>shit hut in Kenya.
>
His mother is and was an American Citizen, so he is qualified in that
respect.
Much less the US Code, specifically TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER
III > Part I > § 1401.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401----000-.html
Tom S.
>On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:12:19 -0600, "Reality_Check©" <Rea...@Check.it>
>wrote:
>
>>Robert wrote:
>>> On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 15:47:28 -0600, "Reality_Check©" <Rea...@Check.it>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Non scrivetemi wrote:
>>>>> Fact.
>>>>
>>>> Why Senator John McCain Cannot Be President: Eleven Months and a
>>>> Hundred Yards Short of Citizenship
>>>>
>>>> http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract-id=1157621
>>>>
>>>> Gabriel J. Chin
>>>> University of Arizona - James E. Rogers College of Law; University of
>>>> Arizona - School of Public Administration and Policy
>>>>
>>>> Arizona Legal Studies Discussion Paper No. 08-14
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Abstract:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Senator McCain was born in 1936 in the Canal Zone to U.S. citizen
>>>> parents. The Canal Zone was territory controlled by the United
>>>> States, but it was not incorporated into the Union.
>>>>
>>>> As requested by Senator McCain's campaign, distinguished
>>>> constitutional lawyers Laurence Tribe and Theodore Olson examined the
>>>> law and issued a detailed opinion offering two reasons that Senator
>>>> McCain was a natural born citizen.
>>>>
>>>> Neither is sound under current law.
See
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401----000-.html
Then decide for yourself. If you want the actual cite it is TITLE 8 >
CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part I > § 1401.
You will see that Mr.'s Tribe and Olson are full of it.
Tom S.
>And as soon as you can convince me that we'd still be *having* this
>discussion if Obama was white, maybe I'll take your "concerns"
>seriously.
>
>Or maybe not....
>
>
>By the way ... aren't these people who are questioning Obama's
>citizenship qualifications the same Republican Party that wanted to do
>away with that requirement so they could run The Terminator for prez?
>Or was that another Republican Party?
It was a few people who are Republicans that did. It wasn't the
Republican party itself.
And I wouldn't even to try to convince you. It is impossible to try to
convince someone whose mind is fully made up.
>On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:15:17 -0400, Brian <drmorri...@comcast.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:12:19 -0600, "Reality_CheckŠ" <Rea...@Check.it>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hey moron, Arnold Schwarzenegger is a "citizen", so is Henry Kissinger
>>>and Craig Ferguson ... and NONE of them can be President.
>>>
>>>When you figure out why, get back to us.
>>
>>The people you mentioned are naturalized citizens. Are you aware of
>>the difference?
>>
>>And McCain's parents were both American citizens.
>
>'tis better if you argue your factual points with a garden hose.
>
>DCI
Bizarre.
Apparently that is some sort of rational argument for you.
>His mother is and was an American Citizen, so he is qualified in that
>respect.
As I've said, if the one parent who is an American citizen is not a
U.S. resident for a requisite period of time before the child is born,
apparently the child isn't a citizen.
When I first heard of this, I though it was ridiculous. As time as
gone by and the only response was to post something that apparently is
fake, I've begun to wonder. Why would a fake birth certificate be
posted and not a real one?
>>>The people you mentioned are naturalized citizens. Are you aware of
>>>the difference?
>>>
>>>And McCain's parents were both American citizens.
>>
>>'tis better if you argue your factual points with a garden hose.
>>
>>DCI
>
>Bizarre.
>
>Apparently that is some sort of rational argument for you.
There is no place for a rational argument with a Republican. Like the
Christians who most are rational is what they believe, irrational is
what they refuse to believe.
The argument that John McCain is not a natural born citizen is too
silly. It would be easier to make specific points by using a garden
hose. There is no argument as to whether or not McCain is a citizen
since there are no countering points, proof or facts.
The same hold true for Barack Obama.
Doesn't make Panama born McCain a "natural-born" US citizen.
Why Senator John McCain Cannot Be President: Eleven Months and a
Hundred Yards Short of Citizenship
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract-id=1157621
Gabriel J. Chin
University of Arizona - James E. Rogers College of Law; University of
Arizona - School of Public Administration and Policy
Arizona Legal Studies Discussion Paper No. 08-14
Abstract:
Senator McCain was born in 1936 in the Canal Zone to U.S. citizen
parents. The Canal Zone was territory controlled by the United States,
but it was not incorporated into the Union.
As requested by Senator McCain's campaign, distinguished
constitutional lawyers Laurence Tribe and Theodore Olson examined the
law and issued a detailed opinion offering two reasons that Senator
McCain was a natural born citizen.
Neither is sound under current law. The Tribe-Olson Opinion suggests
Why Senator John McCain Cannot Be President: Eleven Months and a
As the WORST President in History
Too bad for morons like you U$ Code can't override the U$ Constitution.
Too bad for McCain that U$ Code doesn't -- and can't -- override the U$
Constitution, eh numbnuts?
Why Senator John McCain Cannot Be President: Eleven Months and a
Hundred Yards Short of Citizenship
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract-id=1157621
Gabriel J. Chin
University of Arizona - James E. Rogers College of Law; University of
Arizona - School of Public Administration and Policy
Arizona Legal Studies Discussion Paper No. 08-14
Abstract:
Senator McCain was born in 1936 in the Canal Zone to U.S. citizen
parents. The Canal Zone was territory controlled by the United States,
but it was not incorporated into the Union.
As requested by Senator McCain's campaign, distinguished
constitutional lawyers Laurence Tribe and Theodore Olson examined the
law and issued a detailed opinion offering two reasons that Senator
McCain was a natural born citizen.
Neither is sound under current law. The Tribe-Olson Opinion suggests