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J

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Feb 23, 2012, 5:44:24 PM2/23/12
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There is only one fool-proof method that will prevent STDs and unwanted
pregnancies; abstinence. This is what the emphasis of any sex-education
in schools should be.








http://www.onenewsnow.com/Education/Default.aspx?id=1540970








A spokesperson for the National Abstinence Education Association (NAEA)
says a new report sponsored by the Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention (CDC) on the effectiveness of comprehensive sex education is
misleading and even dangerous.


NAEA's executive director, Valerie Huber, says the CDC-sponsored
analysis titled "The Effectiveness of Group-Based Comprehensive
Risk-Reduction and Abstinence Education Interventions to Prevent or
Reduce the Risk of Adolescent Pregnancy, Human Immunodeficiency Virus,
and Sexually Transmitted Infections" in the March issue of the American
Journal of Preventive Medicine ignores important findings that
contradict the overall effectiveness of the comprehensive risk reduction
strategy that is predominate over abstinence education in schools.


"In fact, it puts a big warning flag in front of any policy makers who
would want to use their findings for changing or amending sex education
policy in America," Huber notes.


She thinks it was dangerous for the president to make the decision in
his 2013 budget proposal to eliminate all funding for abstinence
education, especially in light of these erroneous conclusions.


"It seems like they are perennially interested in pushing an agenda that
is very much in keeping with their voter base, but not with young
people's health," the NAEA spokesperson laments.


Huber goes on to warn that implementing in public schools programs that
have not been found to be effective will likely do more harm than good.












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J Young
jdyo...@ymail.com

Sulfate

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Feb 23, 2012, 6:37:03 PM2/23/12
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On Feb 23, 4:44 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> There is only one fool-proof method that will prevent STDs and unwanted
> pregnancies; abstinence. This is what the emphasis of any sex-education
> in schools should be.

Imagine that: a Catholic trying to further his own goofy Pope-notions
spins his dangerous preconceptions in a positive light. If you and
your ilk were honestly concerned about people's health, you wouldn't
have actively campaigned in AIDS-ravaged Africa against condom use
either.

You're against safe sex because it isn't in line with your church's
teachings on birth control, not because it isn't safe. You're not
fooling anyone, and it's disgusting that you try.

Tronscend

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Feb 23, 2012, 8:03:23 PM2/23/12
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"J" <jdyo...@ymail.com> skrev i melding
news:5e351f....@news.alt.net...
>
> There is only one fool-proof method that will prevent STDs and unwanted
> pregnancies; abstinence.

That like abolishing police, since there is one fool-proof thing that will
prevent crime: honesty.





Spartakus

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Feb 23, 2012, 9:22:01 PM2/23/12
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J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:

> There is only one fool-proof method that will prevent STDs and unwanted
> pregnancies; abstinence. This is what the emphasis of any sex-education
> in schools should be.
>
> http://www.onenewsnow.com/Education/Default.aspx?id=1540970
>
> A spokesperson for the National Abstinence Education Association (NAEA)
> says a new report sponsored by the Centers for Disease Control and
> Prevention (CDC) on the effectiveness of comprehensive sex education
> is misleading and even dangerous.

Well, he's wrong. The fact remains, abstinence-based sex-ed programs
DO NOT WORK.

Orlando, Florida used to have an abstinence-based sex ed curriculum.
But then, Orlando teenagers were surveyed to measure their knowledge
of sex-related health issues. The results were appalling. The
survey showed that Orlando teenagers believed, among other things,
that you could prevent AIDS/HIV by drinking a capful of bleach, and
that Mountain Dew could prevent pregnancy. Based on these findings,
the Florida Legislature moved to implement a more comprehensive sex
education curriculum.

Let's just stop with the abstinence-only wankage. It is not effective
and it puts our teenagers at serious risk for all kinds of health
risks.

Mitchell Holman

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Feb 23, 2012, 10:08:01 PM2/23/12
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J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote in news:5e351f....@news.alt.net:

>
> There is only one fool-proof method that will prevent STDs and unwanted
> pregnancies; abstinence. This is what the emphasis of any sex-education
> in schools should be.
>
>


Let's see a show of hands from all the abstinence
advocates who can swear under oath that THEY were
abstinent until marriage.

Someone?

Anyone?













J

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Feb 23, 2012, 10:26:13 PM2/23/12
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If they didn't remain abstinent, then don't place them in the same
category as those who do. Words without action is meaningless.
Abstinence is 100% effective.


--
J Young
jdyo...@ymail.com

W.T.S.

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Feb 23, 2012, 10:38:01 PM2/23/12
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In article <5e3lht....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@liar.com says...
>
> On 2/23/2012 7:08 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > J<Jerk...@liar.com> wrote in news:5e351f....@news.alt.net:
> >
> >> There is only one fool-proof method that will prevent STDs and unwanted
> >> pregnancies; abstinence. This is what the emphasis of any sex-education
> >> in schools should be.
Bull shit.
> >>
> > Let's see a show of hands from all the abstinence
> > advocates who can swear under oath that THEY were
> > abstinent until marriage.
> >
> > Someone?
> >
> > Anyone?
> >
> If they didn't remain abstinent, then don't place them in the same
> category as those who do. Words without action is meaningless.
> Abstinence is 100% effective.
None of them remained abstinent. Which makes abstinence 100%
ineffective.


Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs.
Live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.

Kit

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Feb 23, 2012, 10:38:49 PM2/23/12
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On Feb 23, 10:26 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> On 2/23/2012 7:08 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > J<jdyou...@ymail.com>  wrote innews:5e351f....@news.alt.net:
>
> >> There is only one fool-proof method that will prevent STDs and unwanted
> >> pregnancies; abstinence. This is what the emphasis of any sex-education
> >> in schools should be.
>
> >    Let's see a show of hands from all the abstinence
> > advocates who can swear under oath that THEY were
> > abstinent until marriage.
>
> >    Someone?
>
> >    Anyone?
>
> If they didn't remain abstinent, then don't place them in the same
> category as those who do. Words without action is meaningless.
> Abstinence is 100% effective.
>
> --
> J Young
> jdyou...@ymail.com- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Just ask Bristol Palin how effective abstinence only teaching is.

Andrew W

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Feb 23, 2012, 10:47:23 PM2/23/12
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"J" <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote in message
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> There is only one fool-proof method that will prevent STDs and
> unwanted pregnancies; abstinence. This is what the emphasis of any
> sex-education in schools should be.
>

You forget one thing. Many teenagers today are unteachable when it comes to
sex. Their hormones build up, they excitedly chat with their peers, they
forget what they've been told by adults, then they sneak out at night and
you don't know what they're doing.

Mostly only the Catholic church and maybe a few other churches *try* to
teach abstinence. But even many Catholics themselves are unable to maintain
the practice of it, and I mean the Catholic adults in many cases. That
really says something.

You and others like you are very naive and ignorant.
Nothing is perfect but condoms and pills are still two of the best
solutions.
If abstinence was such a fantastic solution then it would have been taken up
en masse a long time ago.

--
No man becomes a slave until he ceases to be his own master.
Christianity - the religion of subjugation.

The Christian religion has a good teaching - Love one another. There
are perhaps a few others. The rest is B.S.


chibiabos

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Feb 23, 2012, 11:30:00 PM2/23/12
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In article <qMKdneB-TplGfNvS...@telenor.com>, Tronscend
Nice analogy.

-chib

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Member of S.M.A.S.H.
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor

Andrew W

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Feb 24, 2012, 12:40:30 AM2/24/12
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"J" <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote in message
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Only if you're successful in using it 100% of the time, which few are.

Andrew W

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Feb 24, 2012, 12:51:44 AM2/24/12
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Here's the problem basically.
For abstinence to work as a world wide solution it has to have a more
powerful motivation than the motivation for love and sex. What is more
powerful and motivating for the human race than love and sex?

Andrew W

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Feb 24, 2012, 1:42:39 AM2/24/12
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"J" <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote in message
news:5e351f....@news.alt.net
> There is only one fool-proof method that will prevent STDs and
> unwanted pregnancies; abstinence. This is what the emphasis of any
> sex-education in schools should be.
>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstinence-only_sex_education

Evidence does not support the use of abstinence only sex education.[1] It
has been found to be ineffective in decreasing HIV risk in the developed
world,[2] and does not decrease rates of unplanned pregnancy.
According to SIECUS, the Sexuality Information and Education Council of the
United States, an organization that promotes comprehensive sex education[12]
in the United States,[13] a "...study, conducted by Mathematica Policy
Research Inc. on behalf of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services,
found that abstinence-only-until-marriage programs are ineffective."[14] In
2007, the National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy published an overview
of policy and research on "programs designed to prevent teen pregnancy and
STD/HIV" titled Emerging Answers 2007.[15] The report included a
comprehensive metastudy examining research on the efficacy of
abstinence-only as well as comprehensive sex education. Despite "[t]wo less
rigorous studies suggest[ing] that abstinence programs may have some
positive effects on sexual behavior", Emerging Answers concluded that
"studies of abstinence programs have not produced sufficient evidence to
justify their widespread dissemination." In contrast, the report judged the
evidence for comprehensive sex education favorably, finding it effective for
a wide range of students.

Ray Fischer

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Feb 24, 2012, 3:41:54 AM2/24/12
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J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>There is only one fool-proof method that will prevent STDs and unwanted
>pregnancies; abstinence.

The nazi turd is so twisted and perverse that he is tortured by the idea
that anybody might be allowed to enjoy sex.

--
Ray Fischer | None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
rfis...@sonic.net | Goethe

John Baker

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Feb 24, 2012, 3:20:55 PM2/24/12
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Abstinence is only effective if you actually *abstain*, IBen. Most
don't.

And it's a damned shame your parents didn't.




JohnN

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Feb 24, 2012, 4:45:00 PM2/24/12
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> jdyou...@ymail.com

Ordained adults were/are unable to be 100% abstinent, what chance do
teenagers really have?

What does the NAEA do at their conventions?

JohnN

Buddythunder

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Feb 25, 2012, 3:47:12 AM2/25/12
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> jdyou...@ymail.com

Why do you want so many unwanted pregnancies in the US, coupled with
no access to terminations... you're terrified of the Chinese, aren't
you? The Red Dragon awakes!! Jeez, take a pill, you'll be okay. Just
let the world move on without you, will ya?

Kat

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Feb 25, 2012, 11:01:44 AM2/25/12
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On Feb 23, 10:26 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:

>
> If they didn't remain abstinent, then don't place them in the same
> category as those who do.

Humans are hardwired to begin procreation when women hit menses,
dipshit. You cannot undo hundreds of thousands if not millions of
years of instinct with religious dogma.

> Words without action is meaningless.
> Abstinence is 100% effective.

In theory, anything can be 100% effective. In practice, not so much.

Abstinence is unrealistic. Completely and totally unrealistic.
Especially with kids. Tell them "don't do this!" and many will, just
to spite the grownups telling them such things.

Do you know why? It's not because they are bad kids, most certainly.

One reason I already mentioned is the biological drive of humans to
mate. We are rampaging balls of hormones and lack life experience as
kids and make mistakes. Remove wisdom and add an awakening sex drive,
something proven to peak for men at around the age of 18.. and you are
going to have kids fucking no matter how much people like you preach
at them.

The real reason tho? Kids don't like it when you lie to them. They are
smart. They know when adults feed them bullshit and abstinence only
education DOES NOT WORK. Why do you think so many repressed youngsters
go hog wild when they go away to college? As soon as kids figure out
that the adults around them fed them propagandist bullshit, they
rebel. Better to educate children as to the real consequences of what
they do and how to be safe then feed them bullshit that won't serve
them in the end.



You are also forgetting an important issue.

1 in 4 women will be raped in their lifetimes, most of them by someone
they know. What do you tell to those girls, hmm? Teaching them to
abstain from sex doesn't educate a rape victim about what will happen
to her body if she gets pregnant or worse.

Oh right, you bigots don't like to talk about those women.

You just like to blame them for their fate and move on.

Kat

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Feb 25, 2012, 11:06:02 AM2/25/12
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On Feb 24, 3:41 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> J  <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> >There is only one fool-proof method that will prevent STDs and unwanted
> >pregnancies; abstinence.
>
> The nazi turd is so twisted and perverse that he is tortured by the idea
> that anybody might be allowed to enjoy sex.
>

I said it before and I'll say it again.

He's this bitter because the last time he exited anyone's bodily
orifices was when his mother shat him out of his womb however many
years ago that he was born.

Someone get this man a fleshlight or a real doll so that we might all
be rid of him. At the least, a nice tube of lipstick for his hand
might give him enough variety that he leaves usenet alone for a few
days.

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