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J Young

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Dec 19, 2005, 12:16:05 AM12/19/05
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The Lynching of Bill Bennett

by Patrick J. Buchanan


"You could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would
go down." Had Bill Bennett advanced this as a suggestion worthy of
discussion, he would deserve the Category 5 hurricane of abuse he has
endured. But, reading his words in context, Bennett was not only not doing
this, he was doing the precise opposite, holding up this noxious notion as
"morally reprehensible."

How did this social-cultural firestorm come about?

A caller to Bennett's radio show had argued that had there not been 45
million abortions since Roe v. Wade, there might be enough young workers
today to prevent Social Security from heading for insolvency.

Bennett cautioned his caller against relying on economic arguments to settle
moral issues. Noting that the bestseller Freakonomics tied legalized
abortion to the drop in the number of young males and falling crime,
Bennett, in rebuttal, tossed out this:

If you wanted to reduce crime, you could -- if that were your sole
purpose -- you could abort every black baby in this country, and our crime
rate would go down. That would be an impossible, ridiculous, morally
reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down.

Can anyone read these remarks in full and say honestly, yes, Bill Bennett
was proposing racial genocide, through forced abortions on black women, to
cut the crime rate?

That is absurd. Any careful reader of Bennett's remarks knows he was
demonstrating how the monomaniacal pursuit of a good end can lead, if we
blind ourselves to the base immorality of the means used, to a morally
horrendous result.

Of more interest is the lynch-mob reaction to Bennett's remarks. Rep. Melvin
Watt, chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus, declared:

These kinds of outrageous comments will continue unless there are economic
consequences to those who make them. I therefore call on all radio station
owners who carry Bill Bennett's show to immediately terminate the show, and
if they fail to do so, I call on his sponsors and advertisers to withdraw
their advertising dollars.

In short, Bennett should be denied a forum, censored.

Republican National Chairman Ken Mehlman piled on, denouncing Bennett's
remarks as "regrettable" and "inappropriate," and White House Press
Secretary Scott McClellan drove the knife in: "The president believes the
(Bennett) comments were not appropriate."

Mehlman and McClellan are not the sort of guys you want to rely on to bust
you out of a Basra jail when the boys from the Sadr Brigade are about to
start carving you up. But a valid question has arisen: Why, to make his
teaching point, did Bennett connect African-Americans and high crime?

Bennett says the issue has arisen in the wake of Katrina, where not only
were the black poor the most visible victims, they appear to have been the
great majority of victimizers, shooters, looters and rapists preying on the
unfortunate.

The "whole issue of crime and race" has been on people's minds since New
Orleans, The Washington Post quotes Bennett as saying. And, he added, it is
aired frequently in academic settings. No big deal.

Al Sharpton disagrees. Calling Bennett's remarks "blatantly racist,"
Sharpton accused Bennett of having "stated that as a fact that if you did
this, it would in fact lower the crime rate, which clearly is him making
crime and blacks synonymous." Other leaders accused Bennett of reinforcing a
stereotype of African-Americans being responsible for a disproportionate
share of crime.

Yet, according to The Washington Times, the stereotype is rooted in truth.
The Times concludes its Bennett article with this stark paragraph:

A study last year by the Justice Department's Bureau of Justice Statistics
said that about 44 percent of state and federal prisoners in 2003 were
black, 35 percent were white, and 19 percent were Hispanic, and 2 percent
were of other races.

Now, since the white population is six times the black population in
America, but blacks outnumber whites in prison five-to-four, algebra tells
us violent crime in black America is seven times as great as in the white
community.

Should Bennett be silenced or censored for raising this? Or should Sharpton
& Co. be called on to address such discrepancies in crime rates, half a
century since the civil rights revolution?

As for abortions, according to Washington Post columnist Courtland Milloy,
one in three today are performed on black women, 413,000 in 2002 alone.
Thus, more than 1 percent of America's entire black population is summarily
put to death each year, before these unborn children ever see the light of
day.

What did the Klan do to Black America as horrible as this?


bg1...@apexmail.com

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Dec 19, 2005, 6:56:20 AM12/19/05
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J Infantile wrote:
> The Lynching of Bill Bennett
>
> by Patrick J. Buchanan

Paddy Reichanan: wingnut, fascist, racist and catholic.

In that order.


> "You could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would
> go down." Had Bill Bennett advanced this as a suggestion worthy of
> discussion, he would deserve the Category 5 hurricane of abuse he has
> endured. But, reading his words in context, Bennett was not only not doing
> this, he was doing the precise opposite, holding up this noxious notion as
> "morally reprehensible."

"You could lynch every conservative and the hate crime rate
would go down."

Of course, I would never advocate doing that since it would be
viewed as intolerance and hate speech. But that doesn't mean
it wouldn't be true if somebody did it....


Bob Dog
Atheist #153 = 1^3 + 5^3 + 3^3
EAC's chief cook and brainwasher

-----

"Sooner or later the despairing Churches will try to get
a world-alliance with something like Fascist tyranny to
check the growth of Atheism. It is their one hope."
- Joseph McCabe

LC

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Dec 19, 2005, 9:50:56 AM12/19/05
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24/7 troll "J Young" <youngo...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> The Lynching of Bill Bennett

> by Patrick J. Buchanan

Is there *any* loon you won't suck up to, IJon?

LC~ Nope...

"We learn from experience. I Jon says something it is almost certainly
not true."
From: crw...@netins.net
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Rev. 11D Meow

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Dec 19, 2005, 10:13:45 AM12/19/05
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<bg1...@apexmail.com> wrote in message
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> Atheist #153 = 1^3 + 5^3 + 3^3

Actually 1^3 + 5^3 + 3^3 = 135.


Mark Sebree

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Dec 19, 2005, 10:34:07 AM12/19/05
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Check your math again. 1 + 125 + 27 = 153.

Mark Sebree

Al Smith

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Dec 19, 2005, 10:49:00 AM12/19/05
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bg1...@apexmail.com wrote:
> J Infantile wrote:
> > The Lynching of Bill Bennett
> >
> > by Patrick J. Buchanan
>
> Paddy Reichanan: wingnut, fascist, racist and catholic.
>
> In that order.
>
>
> > "You could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would
> > go down." Had Bill Bennett advanced this as a suggestion worthy of
> > discussion, he would deserve the Category 5 hurricane of abuse he has
> > endured. But, reading his words in context, Bennett was not only not doing
> > this, he was doing the precise opposite, holding up this noxious notion as
> > "morally reprehensible."
>
> "You could lynch every conservative and the hate crime rate
> would go down."

Was Tookie a conservative?

> Of course, I would never advocate doing that since it would be
> viewed as intolerance and hate speech. But that doesn't mean
> it wouldn't be true if somebody did it....

Since you've just said the same thing with the same qualification
Bennet made - Are you defending Bennet or trying to get lynched?

Al Smith

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Dec 19, 2005, 10:50:06 AM12/19/05
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Why don't you just put, "BTW, I'm a moron." in your .sig?

Rev. 11D Meow

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Rev. 11D Meow

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Dec 19, 2005, 11:17:58 AM12/19/05
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That's what I get for posting before caffeine IV is started.


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Rev. 11D Meow

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Dec 19, 2005, 11:18:07 AM12/19/05
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That's what I get for posting before caffeine IV is started.

"Mark Sebree" <seb...@infionline.net> wrote in message
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>

The Chief Instigator

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Dec 19, 2005, 11:52:56 AM12/19/05
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"LC" <LCi...@this.com> writes:

>24/7 troll "J Young" <youngo...@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:qOGdnSE3YoCa3zve...@giganews.com...

>> The Lynching of Bill Bennett

>> by Patrick J. Buchanan

>Is there *any* loon you won't suck up to, IJon?

>LC~ Nope...

Well, he might have missed Marshall Applewhite, of Heaven's Gate infamy...

--
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NEXT GAME: Friday, December 23 vs. Omaha, 7:35

George

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Dec 19, 2005, 11:57:08 AM12/19/05
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On 2005-12-18 21:16:05 -0800, "J Young" <youngo...@aol.com> said:

> The Lynching of Bill Bennett
>
> by Patrick J. Buchanan
>
>
> "You could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would
> go down." Had Bill Bennett advanced this as a suggestion worthy of
> discussion, he would deserve the Category 5 hurricane of abuse he has
> endured. But, reading his words in context, Bennett was not only not doing
> this, he was doing the precise opposite, holding up this noxious notion as
> "morally reprehensible."
>
> How did this social-cultural firestorm come about?
>
> A caller to Bennett's radio show had argued that had there not been 45

> million abortions since Roe v. Wade.

Abortions went up, drastically, under Reagan and Bush I. They dropped
considerably under the Democrats and Clinton. Today, with the GOP
running *everything* (for now) abortions are increasing again. If the
so called prolife truly cared about curtailing abortions, they would
vote Democratic. They don't. The truth is, every prolifer who votes
for a Republican votes *for* abortion, not against it.

LC

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Dec 19, 2005, 12:45:41 PM12/19/05
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"The Chief Instigator" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
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> "LC" <LCi...@this.com> writes:

>>24/7 troll "J Young" <youngo...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>news:qOGdnSE3YoCa3zve...@giganews.com...

>>> The Lynching of Bill Bennett

>>> by Patrick J. Buchanan

>>Is there *any* loon you won't suck up to, IJon?

>>LC~ Nope...

> Well, he might have missed Marshall Applewhite, of Heaven's Gate infamy...

More's the pity.

In light of the posthumous Darwin Award those loons deserve, "J" would have
fit right in.


caddys...@my-deja.com

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Dec 19, 2005, 1:14:30 PM12/19/05
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Rev. 11D Meow wrote:
> That's what I get for posting before caffeine IV is started.

What on earth makes you think caffeine will make you smarter? Tim
thinks pot will make you like Carl Sagan.

Tim Crowley

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Dec 19, 2005, 1:24:47 PM12/19/05
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caddys...@my-deja.com wrote:


> What on earth makes you think caffeine will make you smarter? Tim
> thinks pot will make you like Carl Sagan.

When did I say that? hint: I did not. you are a liar.

Mark Sebree

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Dec 19, 2005, 1:27:57 PM12/19/05
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caddys...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Rev. 11D Meow wrote:
> > That's what I get for posting before caffeine IV is started.
>
> What on earth makes you think caffeine will make you smarter? Tim
> thinks pot will make you like Carl Sagan.
>


He oviously meant that he was not yet completely awake when he wrote
that. Some people do not wake up easily in the morning. I am one of
them.

Mark Sebree

Mark K. Bilbo

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Dec 19, 2005, 1:44:18 PM12/19/05
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In <qOGdnSE3YoCa3zve...@giganews.com>, "J Young"
<youngo...@aol.com> wrote:

> The Lynching of Bill Bennett
>
> by Patrick J. Buchanan
>
>
> "You could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate
> would go down." Had Bill Bennett advanced this as a suggestion worthy of
> discussion, he would deserve the Category 5 hurricane of abuse he has
> endured. But, reading his words in context, Bennett was not only not doing
> this, he was doing the precise opposite, holding up this noxious notion as
> "morally reprehensible."
>
> How did this social-cultural firestorm come about?

Because Bennett is a hypocritical asshole who said something racist.

Deal.

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Rev. 11D Meow

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Dec 19, 2005, 1:45:28 PM12/19/05
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What do you suggest, then?
Hey, didn't Carl Sagan smoke cannabis sativa?
Or was he smoking Indica buds?

Do you think there's a difference between those two?

Did you know Albert Einstein gobbled LSD on a near daily basis?

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Rev. 11D Meow

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"Mark Sebree" <seb...@infionline.net> wrote in message
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>
> caddys...@my-deja.com wrote:
>> Rev. 11D Meow wrote:
>> > That's what I get for posting before caffeine IV is started.
>>
>> What on earth makes you think caffeine will make you smarter? Tim
>> thinks pot will make you like Carl Sagan.
>>
>
>
> He oviously meant that he was not yet completely awake when he wrote
> that. Some people do not wake up easily in the morning. I am one of
> them.
>
> Mark Sebree
>

Pretty much, as evidenced by my first reply to your heads-up post
regarding my don't do math while half-asleep wake-up call,
which was empty, also due to lack of caffeine.

Now, I've had four cups of Green w/ Ginger Lemon and my fingers
are flying so fast on the keyboard I can't even see them.

The Chief Instigator

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Dec 19, 2005, 2:20:54 PM12/19/05
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"LC" <LCi...@this.com> writes:

>>>> by Patrick J. Buchanan

>>>LC~ Nope...

>More's the pity.

Jonestown would have done, as well.

LC

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"The Chief Instigator" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
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> "LC" <LCi...@this.com> writes:

>>"The Chief Instigator" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
>>news:szk8xuh...@eris.io.com...
>>> "LC" <LCi...@this.com> writes:

>>>>24/7 troll "J Young" <youngo...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:qOGdnSE3YoCa3zve...@giganews.com...

>>>>> The Lynching of Bill Bennett

>>>>> by Patrick J. Buchanan

>>>>Is there *any* loon you won't suck up to, IJon?

>>>>LC~ Nope...

>>> Well, he might have missed Marshall Applewhite, of Heaven's Gate
>>> infamy...

>>More's the pity.

>>In light of the posthumous Darwin Award those loons deserve, "J" would
>>have fit right in.

> Jonestown would have done, as well.

Except, if I recall correctly, most of Jim Jones' followers were people of
color. Can't imagine IBen as part of that bunch, unless it involved him
gleefully mixing up the Kool Aid.

The Chief Instigator

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"LC" <LCi...@this.com> writes:

>"The Chief Instigator" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
>news:szkwti0...@eris.io.com...
>> "LC" <LCi...@this.com> writes:

>>>"The Chief Instigator" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
>>>news:szk8xuh...@eris.io.com...
>>>> "LC" <LCi...@this.com> writes:

>>>>>24/7 troll "J Young" <youngo...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:qOGdnSE3YoCa3zve...@giganews.com...

>>>>>> The Lynching of Bill Bennett

>>>>>> by Patrick J. Buchanan

>>>>>Is there *any* loon you won't suck up to, IJon?

>>>>>LC~ Nope...

>>>> Well, he might have missed Marshall Applewhite, of Heaven's Gate
>>>> infamy...

>>>More's the pity.

>>>In light of the posthumous Darwin Award those loons deserve, "J" would
>>>have fit right in.

>> Jonestown would have done, as well.

>Except, if I recall correctly, most of Jim Jones' followers were people of
>color. Can't imagine IBen as part of that bunch, unless it involved him
>gleefully mixing up the Kool Aid.

It would figure that he'd demand others do as he said, not as he did.

caddys...@my-deja.com

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"Schizophrenia? What schizophrenia?.... Who said that? Who smoked all
my pot?" - Tim, Tom and Ted.

Rev. 11D Meow

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Dec 19, 2005, 3:58:45 PM12/19/05
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Get your facts straight.

Multiple Personality Disorder is NOT Schizophrenia.


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Al Smith

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Rev. 11D Meow wrote:
> Get your facts straight.
>
> Multiple Personality Disorder is NOT Schizophrenia.

Tom knows that. Tim doesn't. Ted think's smoking pot is the cure.

Tim Crowley

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Dec 19, 2005, 5:22:14 PM12/19/05
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Poor Al. Busted in yet another lie, time to play the fool. You play it
very well too Al. You should give up lying, you suck at that. But you
are very good at playing the fool. FACT. I in no way shape or form
said that pot makes anyone like Carl Sagan. You are a liar. Now, time
to play the fool some more.

james g. keegan jr.

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Dec 19, 2005, 7:34:55 PM12/19/05
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In article <EtmdnWQnvch...@comcast.com>,
"Rev. 11D Meow" <Ji...@Crack.Corn> wrote:


i suggest you do a google search on the term 'top post."

Rev. 11D Meow

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Dec 19, 2005, 8:42:53 PM12/19/05
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I suggest you get a life.


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james g. keegan jr.

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*illiterate top post reformatted as a courtesy to readers*

In article <JcGdnRkBnMQ...@comcast.com>,


"Rev. 11D Meow" <Ji...@Crack.Corn> wrote:

> "james g. keegan jr." <jgke...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:jgkeegan-D46BBD...@individual.net...
> > In article <EtmdnWQnvch...@comcast.com>,
> > "Rev. 11D Meow" <Ji...@Crack.Corn> wrote:
> >
> >
> > i suggest you do a google search on the term 'top post."
>

> I suggest you get a life.


your initial, ignorant error was acceptable.

your obstinacy in repeating it defines you.

Rev. 11D Meow

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Dec 19, 2005, 9:23:48 PM12/19/05
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Thank You, Usenet Kopp.

Carry On. Nothin' To See Here, Phokes...

Move along.
Move along...

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james g. keegan jr.

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*illiterate top post reformatted as a courtesy to readers*

In article <TeadncAzst-...@comcast.com>,


"Rev. 11D Meow" <Ji...@Crack.Corn> wrote:
> "james g. keegan jr." <jgke...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:jgkeegan-D097B9...@individual.net...
> > *illiterate top post reformatted as a courtesy to readers*
> >
> > In article <JcGdnRkBnMQ...@comcast.com>,
> > "Rev. 11D Meow" <Ji...@Crack.Corn> wrote:
> >
> >> "james g. keegan jr." <jgke...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:jgkeegan-D46BBD...@individual.net...
> >> > In article <EtmdnWQnvch...@comcast.com>,
> >> > "Rev. 11D Meow" <Ji...@Crack.Corn> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > i suggest you do a google search on the term 'top post."
> >>
> >> I suggest you get a life.
> >
> >
> > your initial, ignorant error was acceptable.
> >
> > your obstinacy in repeating it defines you.
>

> Thank You


oh you can accept responsibility for your own actions, can't you?

Rev. 11D Meow

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Dec 19, 2005, 10:11:30 PM12/19/05
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*plonk*


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caddys...@my-deja.com

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Dec 20, 2005, 3:23:48 AM12/20/05
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Who am I talking to now?

timmyt...@gmail.com

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Dec 20, 2005, 9:15:13 AM12/20/05
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Are you talking? Your lips aren't moving.

caddys...@my-deja.com

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Dec 20, 2005, 11:33:53 AM12/20/05
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I haven't spoken to the personality that tries to be funny before.
What's your name child?
Are you "Lacey" by chance? The one who comes out when you smoke that
special bud?

Tim Crowley

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Dec 20, 2005, 12:30:18 PM12/20/05
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Ahhh, you're so cute when you play the fool. Stupid and ugly, kinda
like a baboon.

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