"The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion"
J Young
of this great historical record. Let the reader decide.
PREFACE
(Translated by Victor E. Marsden)
The author of this translation of the famous Protocols was himself a
victim of the Revolution. He had lived for many years in Russia and
was married to a Russian lady. Among his other activities in Russia he
had been for a number of years a Russian Correspondent of the MORNING
POST, a position which he occupied when the Revolution broke out, and
his vivid descriptions of events in Russia will still be in the
recollection of many of the readers of that Journal. Naturally he was
singled out for the anger of the Soviet. On the day that Captain
Cromie was murdered by Jews, Victor Marsden was arrested and thrown
into the Peter-Paul Prison, expecting every day to have his name
called out for execution. This, however, he escaped, and eventually he
was allowed to return to England very much of a wreck in bodily
health. However, he recovered under treatment and the devoted care of
his wife and friends. One of the first things he undertook, as soon as
he was able, was this translation of the Protocols. Mr. Marsden was
eminently well qualified for the work. His intimate acquaintance with
Russia, Russian life and the Russian language on the one hand, and his
mastery of a terse literary English style on the other, placed him in
a position of advantage which few others could claim. The consequence
is that we have in his version an eminently readable work, and though
the subject-matter is somewhat formless, Mr. Marsden's literary touch
reveals the thread running through the twenty-four Protocols.
It may be said with truth that this work was carried out at the cost
of Mr. Marsden's own life's blood. He told the writer of this Preface
that he could not stand more than an hour at a time of his work on it
in the British Museum, as the diabolical spirit of the matter which he
was obliged to turn into English made him positively ill.
Mr. Marsden's connection with the MORNING POST was not severed by his
return to England, and he was well enough to accept the post of
special correspondent of that journal in the suite of H.R.H., the
Prince of Wales on his Empire tour. From this he returned with the
Prince, apparently in much better health, but within a few days of his
landing he was taken suddenly ill, and died after a very brief
illness.
May this work be his crowning monument! In it he has performed an
immense service to the English-speaking world, and there can be little
doubt that it will take its place in the first rank of the English
versions of "THE PROTOCOLS of the Meetings of the LEARNED ELDERS OF
ZION."
Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian
> Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
> of this great historical record.
And this ends any discussion about whether fuckface young is an antisemite
bastard or not.
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
Ray Fischer
>Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
>of this great historical record.
And the general consensus is that it is anti-semitic and a lie.
Which is why you like it.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Parsifal
> Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
> of this great historical record. Let the reader decide.
More prrof that you're a nazi turd: this "document" has been proven a
forgery several times.
That you consider this a "great historical record" speaks volumes...
Are there any limits to your vileness, J Young?
Spartakus
> Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
> of this great historical record. Let the reader decide.
Here's one reason why you like it...
"It is one of the most well known and discussed examples
of literary forgery."
Here's another...
"Numerous independent investigations have repeatedly
proven it to be a plagiarism and a hoax."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion
Racism, anti-semitism, forgery, plagiarism, hoaxes - that's your life
blood, JYoung/IBen. Now fuck off and stay fucked off.
J Young
> J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
> >of this great historical record.
>
> And the general consensus is that it is anti-semitic and a lie.
>
> Which is why you like it.
>
> --
> Ray Fischer
The general consensus of who? Let me guess; the WJC and their amen
corner at the New York Times.
justme
Two words: Maurice Joly. Google for his name.
It was in 1921 when London Times demonstrated that the protocols are a
hoax and a plagiarism of a book by French satirist Maurice Joly
published in 1864 (most copies were confiscated and the author was
jailed). The forgers substituted Jews for Napoleon III supporters.
No wonder that the page on that site that tries to prove "authenticity"
of the protocols (http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/prvisit.htm) avoids
any mentioning of this fact.
ElParedon
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:463e9ed7$0$14130$742e...@news.sonic.net...
>J Young <youngo...@aol.com> wrote:
>>Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
>>of this great historical record.
>
> And the general consensus is that it is anti-semitic and a lie.
certainly look genuine to me. They were written by the Jewish ayatollahs,
and are being followed to the letter to this very day
ElParedon
"Parsifal" <jeanpasc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1178511421.9...@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> On 7 Mai, 04:50, J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
>> Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
>> of this great historical record. Let the reader decide.
>
> More prrof that you're a nazi turd: this "document" has been proven a
> forgery several times.
been following them to the letter!
ElParedon
"Spartakus" <spar...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1178512029....@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> On May 6, 7:50 pm, J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
>> Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
>> of this great historical record. Let the reader decide.
>
> Here's one reason why you like it...
>
> "It is one of the most well known and discussed examples
> of literary forgery."
It is absolutely NOT a forgery. The document can be seen on display in the
British Museum, and Zionists have followed every single tenet of the
Protocols to this very day
Ray Fischer
> rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
>> >of this great historical record.
>>
>> And the general consensus is that it is anti-semitic and a lie.
>>
>> Which is why you like it.
>
>The general consensus of who? Let me guess; the WJC and their amen
>corner at the New York Times.
Wrong again, neonazi lunatic.
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a pamphlet that purports to
describe a Jewish plot to achieve world domination. It is one of
the most well known and discussed examples of literary forgery.
Numerous independent investigations have repeatedly proven it to
be a plagiarism and a hoax.
Scholars generally agree that the Okhrana, the secret police of
the Russian Empire, fabricated the text in the late 1890s or early
1900s. Among the most notable early refutations of the Protocols
as a forgery were a series of articles printed in The Times of
London in 1921.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>>>Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
>>>of this great historical record.
>>
>> And the general consensus is that it is anti-semitic and a lie.
> Bullshit! I have seen the Protocols in the British Museum, and they
>certainly look genuine to me. They were written by the Jewish ayatollahs,
>and are being followed to the letter to this very day
Written by the Russian secret police.
But you neonazis morons are suckers for any bullshit you see.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
cactus
> Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
> of this great historical record. Let the reader decide.
And the only apologists for this forgery are antisemitic bigots,
hatemongers and the like. No decent person has anything to do with that
piece of lying crap any more.
Mordecai!
Ray Fischer wrote:
But I can prove you are incorrect.
Here is the proof ...
Mr Young has Jewish friends.
They laugh at his little jokes about throwing Jew into ovens and think it
amusing.
They have spoken to Mr Young about this book and confirm it is all true.
They testify on his behalf and thus prove he is not a neo nazi ...
There testimony is recorded by Mr Young - who has heard it from their own
lips.
Thus we have proof - these jewish friends of Mr Young are the proof - and
his record of their testimony is the proof.
What are their names? Oh he has ... forgotten ... to reply, but it is only
an oversight as Mr Young never lies - just ask him.
Therefore on the testimony of Mr Young that he never lies, we can believe in
these jewish friends that nobody has heard of ... and we can believe his
testimony that these jewish friends that nobody knows have testified on his
behalf - and we can believe these friends have confirmed he is not a liar -
and we can believe their testimony that the elders of zion is a true
document ... because we can trust the testimony of Mr Young who has
testified on his own behalf with corroboration of independent witnesses
known only to himself.
There ... all proved.
--
Mordecai!
When words and actions disagree, believe actions.
When rhetoric and reality disagree, either rhetoric is wrong or reality is
wrong, and reality is Never wrong.
Parsifal
> "Ray Fischer" <rfisc...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>
> news:463e9ed7$0$14130$742e...@news.sonic.net...>J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
> >>of this great historical record.
>
> > And the general consensus is that it is anti-semitic and a lie.
>
> Bullshit! I have seen the Protocols in the British Museum, and they
> certainly look genuine to me. They were written by the Jewish ayatollahs,
> and are being followed to the letter to this very day
So, because they look "genuine" to you -wtf are you anyway?-, they
are?
Are you really dumb or are just playing dumb?
BTW, you certainly look moronic to me, I guess that proves that you
are a moron.
Parsifal
> On May 6, 11:36?pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
> > J Young ?<youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > >Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
> > >of this great historical record.
>
> > And the general consensus is that it is anti-semitic and a lie.
>
> > Which is why you like it.
>
> > --
> > rfisc...@sonic.net ?
>
> The general consensus of who?
The general consensus of historians and decent people.
> Let me guess; the WJC and their amen
> corner at the New York Times.
Let me guess, this is another proof of your repect for the Jewish
culture that you were bragging about?
What's your game exactly, J Young? How long do you intend to troll
here?
Parsifal
> > > rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> > >> J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > >> >Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
> > >> >of this great historical record.
>
> > >> And the general consensus is that it is anti-semitic and a lie.
>
> > >> Which is why you like it.
>
> > >The general consensus of who? Let me guess; the WJC and their amen
> > >corner at the New York Times.
>
> > Wrong again, neonazi lunatic.
>
> > The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a pamphlet that purports to
> > describe a Jewish plot to achieve world domination. It is one of
> > the most well known and discussed examples of literary forgery.
> > Numerous independent investigations have repeatedly proven it to
> > be a plagiarism and a hoax.
> > Scholars generally agree that the Okhrana, the secret police of
> > the Russian Empire, fabricated the text in the late 1890s or early
> > 1900s. Among the most notable early refutations of the Protocols
> > as a forgery were a series of articles printed in The Times of
> > London in 1921.
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion
>
> > --
> > Ray Fischer
Actually, why should we doubt J Young's words: this is what he wrote
last January:
"Happy New Year to all. Part of my resolve for the year 2007 is to
improve my relationship with factions on Usenet that in the past I
may
have been at odds with. I would like to start with the Jewish
community. Shalom! From this point onward I would like to be
considered
a friend of the Jewish peoples and the state of Israel. "
So, that's it: I guess this proves that J Young isn't an antisemite.
He's just hanging out with the wrong crowd, is badly informed and is
incredibly unlucky since he always finds himself on the side of
holocaust-deniers, nazis (old and young) and antisemites.
cactus
Even the Russian courts have ruled it an antisemitic forgery:
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?documents/protocols/protocols.001
There are plenty of other sites documenting its status as plagiarized
forgery.
Ray Fischer
>
>"Spartakus" <spar...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>news:1178512029....@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>> On May 6, 7:50 pm, J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
>>> Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
>>> of this great historical record. Let the reader decide.
>>
>> Here's one reason why you like it...
>>
>> "It is one of the most well known and discussed examples
>> of literary forgery."
>
>It is absolutely NOT a forgery.
Because you say so?
> The document can be seen on display in the
>British Museum,
The forgery can be seen, maybe.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Mordecai!
Parsifal wrote:
Well there we are ... we both agree.
Gee, it is nice to come to a resolution on an issue, and even nicer when we find
out that a person is not an enemy.
Ash
> J Young <youngo...@aol.com> wrote:
>> Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
>> of this great historical record.
>
> And the general consensus is that it is anti-semitic and a lie.
>
> Which is why you like it.
>
Venceremos
> J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >> J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
> >> >of this great historical record.
>
> >> And the general consensus is that it is anti-semitic and a lie.
>
> >> Which is why you like it.
>
> >The general consensus of who? Let me guess; the WJC and their amen
> >corner at the New York Times.
>
> Wrong again, neonazi lunatic.
>
> The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a pamphlet that purports to
> describe a Jewish plot to achieve world domination. It is one of
> the most well known and discussed examples of literary forgery.
EVIDENCE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU ALL: DO THE ZIONAZIS DOMINATE MEDIA,
BANKS, BIG BUSINESS, MONEY LENDERS, POLITICAL SYSTEM?
OF COURSE THEY DO! TRY GETTING ELECTED TO THE DOG CATCHERS POSITION
IF YOU ARE CRITICAL OF JEWS!z SEE WHAT HAPPENS!
Venceremos
> ElParedon wrote:
> > "Ray Fischer" <rfisc...@sonic.net> wrote in message
> >news:463e9ed7$0$14130$742e...@news.sonic.net...
> >> J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>> Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
> >>> of this great historical record.
> >> And the general consensus is that it is anti-semitic and a lie.
> > Bullshit! I have seen the Protocols in the British Museum, and they
> > certainly look genuine to me. They were written by the Jewish ayatollahs,
> > and are being followed to the letter to this very day
>
> You are either very deluded or deliberately ignorant.
>
> Even the Russian courts have ruled it an antisemitic
nizkor crap! All you have to do is look around if Jews are following
the tenets of the Protocols. They bloody well are. America is a debtor
nation and Jews have made us so!
Venceremos
> ElParedon <ser...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >>J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
> >>>of this great historical record.
>
> >> And the general consensus is that it is anti-semitic and a lie.
> > Bullshit! I have seen the Protocols in the British Museum, and they
> >certainly look genuine to me. They were written by the Jewish ayatollahs,
> >and are being followed to the letter to this very day
>
> Written by the Russian secret police.
Bullshit it was!
Geoff
Which parts can you hold forth that have been followed by the letter by
Jews?
Here's betting you can't come up with any.
This should be fun!
Geoff
Are you under the impression that there was one original document that is on
display somewhere like the Declaration of Independence?
I doubt it, but you can probably prove me wrong if it is true. So go ahead
and show me evidence that the British Museum has this on display.
Geoff
Or ever has.
Parsifal
> ElParedon wrote:
> > "Spartakus" <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
I have to grand J Young one thing: thanks to him, it became easier to
spot the nazi assholes on this discussion group...
Christopher A.Lee
wrote:
The British Museum does have an edition.
But knowing the museum, I would suspect its history would also be
there.
It is after all a pivotal document even though it is a known forgery
by the Tzar's secret police, plagiarised from a whole slew of earlier
authors whose words were changed to fit an imaginary Jewish
conspiracy. Then used to justify the pogroms, and resurrected later to
justify the Nazis.
God-fearing American
> "Spartakus" <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
Surely even an ignorant uneducated poodle-raping racist like yourself
are aware that just because something is a document, does not mean
that it is not a forgery. The inbreeding in your family must be pretty
fierce.
------------------------------------------------
http://www.cafepress.com/bush_doggers?pid=2794571
cactus
My mistake, I had forgotten that it was first written by a Frenchman and
plagiarized by the Russian Secret Police. We could both learn more
about how the forgery originated.
>
The last book that Will Eisner wrote before he died was a graphic
history of the "protocols." It's short, illustrated of course, and a
good read.
Check it out - it's easy, accurate (probably one of the very few graphic
works with a bibliography) and you might learn something.
Don't be somebody's willing stooge.
Venceremos
In United States this is one of the best sellers. Are you kidding me?
Geoff
Fine. I'll buy that. But ElParedon was implying that it was obvious that the
British Museum's was not a forgery. I'm not sure how you could determine
this by a cursory examination of the document.
Christopher A.Lee
wrote:
He is talking through his sporran, and equivocating on where the
forgery was.
The original document was a forgery, purporting to be notes from a
meeting of the alleged conspiracy. It was published in translated
editions in various countries. Every copy is of a forged original.
But not a forged copy, if you see what I mean - a "genuine copy of a
forgery".
cactus
people don't buy it, but skinheads, neonazis and KKK losers do when they
get their allowances.
Christopher A.Lee
It's worth reading that crap - otherwise you won't know what it says.
rock...@yahoo.com
So here's Mr. Geoff Offermann, an apparent self-hating Jew, infecting
another board with his anti-Semitism and latent sympathies for Pallys
and others who wish to kill Jews.
cactus
It's not worth reading that crap - I have better ways to pass the time,
like doing taxes or digging in the back yard. And I do know what it
says - people I trust have done the dirty work and summarized it for me.
Why should I waste my time reading lies or bothering to refute them when
the whole document is known to be a forgery? It can easily be
discredited without the bother of suffering through the fictitious
"content."
Ray Fischer
>On May 7, 12:56 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> > rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> >> J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >> >Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
>> >> >of this great historical record.
>>
>> >> And the general consensus is that it is anti-semitic and a lie.
>>
>> >> Which is why you like it.
>>
>> >The general consensus of who? Let me guess; the WJC and their amen
>> >corner at the New York Times.
>>
>> Wrong again, neonazi lunatic.
>>
>> The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a pamphlet that purports to
>> describe a Jewish plot to achieve world domination. It is one of
>> the most well known and discussed examples of literary forgery.
> THAT IS WHAT ZIONAZI BASTARDS WOULD LIKE YOU TO BELIEVE,
As opposed to you neonazi lunatics?
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
flores...@hotmail.com
> J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
> >of this great historical record.
>
> And the general consensus is that it is anti-semitic and a lie.
Yeah we know. I mean we all know how Jews really DON'T want to
dominate
the world; how they really HAVEN'T had the dream of world domination
for 3,000 years; how they really DON'T do the very things that the
Protocols
describe; yeah what a silly lie. I think this snip from the wiki
article on
the Protocols pretty well sums it up. (although of course, they start
by falling
over themselves stating how it is a literary forgery--I mean, should
we expect
anything else? Wiki would be ripped to shreds if they even suggested
othewise.)
".....'elders,' describing how they will run the world through control
of the media and finance, and replace the traditional social order
with one based on mass manipulation."
Couldn't have said it better myself. But wait, we all know how Jews
really DON'T control the
media and finance; how they really DON'T practice mass manipulation
through their
weaseling into the key areas of society; how they are just a bunch of
good Joes who
don't mind what people say about them or their Holocaust™. They're
just fun-loving
and jolly folk who spread love and kindness, without a bigoted or
hateful bone in their
bodies. Shit, everybody knows this. What a ridiculous idea that
these good folk
could be anything like what the Protocol decribes..
Douglas Berry
<youngo...@aol.com> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
>Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
>of this great historical record. Let the reader decide.
No, let the *facts* decide. The Protocols are a pastich of two
earlier works, an anti-Napoleanist tract titled "Dialogue in Hell
Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu" by Maurice Joly and Hermann
Goedsche's 1868 fiction novel, "Biarritz"
It was assembled by the Russian Okhrana (the secret police) in the
1890s as a way to justify further repression of Russian Jews and to
attack movements identified with the Jewish plot in the Protocols
(land reform, socialism, etc.)
This forgery was exposed in 1921 in a series of articles in the London
Times
http://emperors-clothes.com/antisem/times-pdf.htm
Doesn't your Bible say something about bearing false witness?
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
Ray Fischer
>On May 6, 11:36 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
>> >of this great historical record.
>>
>> And the general consensus is that it is anti-semitic and a lie.
>
>Yeah we know. I mean we all know how Jews really DON'T want to
>dominate
>the world;
Unlike you modest, unassuming, neonazis?
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Spartakus
> "Spartakus" <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote...
> > J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
> >> of this great historical record. Let the reader decide.
> > Here's one reason why you like it...
> >
> > "It is one of the most well known and discussed examples
> > of literary forgery."
> It is absolutely NOT a forgery.
It absolutely is. It is a creation of Czar Nicholas II's secret
police, who attributed it to a ficticious cabal of radical Zionists.
> The document can be seen on display in the British Museum,
So can statues of lions and bulls with human heads. Do such creatures
exist?
> and Zionists have followed every single tenet of the
> Protocols to this very day
Blood libel, or the next thing to it.
Douglas Berry
<ser...@bellsouth.net> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
> THAT IS WHAT ZIONAZI BASTARDS WOULD LIKE YOU TO BELIEVE, BUT THE
>EVIDENCE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU ALL: DO THE ZIONAZIS DOMINATE MEDIA,
>BANKS, BIG BUSINESS, MONEY LENDERS, POLITICAL SYSTEM?
>
>OF COURSE THEY DO! TRY GETTING ELECTED TO THE DOG CATCHERS POSITION
>IF YOU ARE CRITICAL OF JEWS!z SEE WHAT HAPPENS!
So, you are saying that a religious group that makes up 0.3% of the
world's population are so strong, smart, resirceful, and determined
that have managed to seize control of the entire world from the other
99.7%
Seems to me that if you are saying that, you are saying that Jews are
the real supermen, and our natural leaders.
Douglas Berry
<ser...@bellsouth.net> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
>It is absolutely NOT a forgery. The document can be seen on display in the
>British Museum, and Zionists have followed every single tenet of the
>Protocols to this very day
Dude, it was a pamphlet, printed by the thousands initially, well into
the millions by 1930 in multiple languages.
Are you claiming that the British Museum has the original document
written in the blood of humans on humans skin parchment? If so, a
simple letter can clear this up!
Of course, what you probably saw was one of the original pamphlets.
They are quite rare now.
Douglas Berry
<ser...@bellsouth.net> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
>In United States this is one of the best sellers. Are you kidding me?
OK, show me the best-seller list with the Protocols on it. Go on,
I'll wait.
Here's the most recent edition of the book on sale at Amazon.com
Sales rank: 160,559 in books.
Hardly a best seller.
ElParedon
"cactus" <b...@nonespam.com> wrote in message
news:sZO%h.7393$2v1....@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
> Christopher A.Lee wrote:
>> On Mon, 07 May 2007 21:49:26 GMT, cactus <b...@nonespam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Venceremos wrote:
>>>> On May 7, 1:19 am, cactus <b...@nonespam.com> wrote:
>>>>> J Young wrote:
>>>>>> Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
>>>>>> of this great historical record. Let the reader decide.
>>>>> And the only apologists for this forgery are antisemitic bigots,
>>>>> hatemongers and the like. No decent person has anything to do with
>>>>> that
>>>>> piece of lying crap any more.
>>>>
>>>> In United States this is one of the best sellers. Are you kidding me?
>>>>
>>> It's no more a best-seller than "Mein Kampf." That is to say, decent
>>> people don't buy it, but skinheads, neonazis and KKK losers do when they
>>> get their allowances.
>>
>> It's worth reading that crap - otherwise you won't know what it says.
>
> It's not worth reading that crap - I have better ways to pass the time,
> like doing taxes or digging in the back yard. And I do know what it
> says - people I trust have done the dirty work and summarized it for me.
Very funny, you would have made an ideal citizen of the Third Reich
ElParedon
"Douglas Berry" <pengu...@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:unlv3350tarb86lbb...@4ax.com...
> On 6 May 2007 19:50:34 -0700 there was an Ancient J Young
> <youngo...@aol.com> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
>
>>Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
>>of this great historical record. Let the reader decide.
>
> No, let the *facts* decide. The Protocols are a pastich of two
> earlier works, an anti-Napoleanist tract titled "Dialogue in Hell
> Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu" by Maurice Joly and Hermann
> Goedsche's 1868 fiction novel, "Biarritz"
>
> It was assembled by the Russian Okhrana (the secret police) in the
> 1890s as a way to justify further repression of Russian Jews and to
As if Okhrana needed justification after Jewish assassination of Czar
Alexander II
J Young
> Christopher A.Lee wrote:
> > On Mon, 07 May 2007 21:49:26 GMT, cactus <b...@nonespam.com> wrote:
>
> >> Venceremos wrote:
> >>> On May 7, 1:19 am, cactus <b...@nonespam.com> wrote:
> >>>> J Young wrote:
> >>>>> Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
> >>>>> of this great historical record. Let the reader decide.
> >>>> And the only apologists for this forgery are antisemitic bigots,
> >>>> hatemongers and the like. No decent person has anything to do with that
> >>>> piece of lying crap any more.
>
> >>> In United States this is one of the best sellers. Are you kidding me?
>
> >> It's no more a best-seller than "Mein Kampf." That is to say, decent
> >> people don't buy it, but skinheads, neonazis and KKK losers do when they
> >> get their allowances.
>
> > It's worth reading that crap - otherwise you won't know what it says.
>
> It's not worth reading that crap - I have better ways to pass the time,
> like doing taxes or digging in the back yard. And I do know what it
> says - people I trust have done the dirty work and summarized it for me.
>
Perhaps you trust them but why should everyone else? Exactly who are
these "people" anyhow? My point was that it should be the reader
themselves who decide whether or not "Protocols" is authentic, not
some faceless Zionist who has pre-ordained it as a forgery.
fla...@verizon.net
On 7-May-2007, Douglas Berry <pengu...@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
> On 7 May 2007 05:48:26 -0700 there was an Ancient Venceremos
> <ser...@bellsouth.net> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
>
[snip most of lies to point]
> > TRY GETTING ELECTED TO THE DOG CATCHERS POSITION
> > IF YOU ARE CRITICAL OF JEWS!z SEE WHAT HAPPENS!
>
> So, you are saying that a religious group that makes up 0.3% of the
> world's population are so strong, smart, resirceful, and determined
> that have managed to seize control of the entire world from the other
> 99.7%
>
> Seems to me that if you are saying that, you are saying that Jews are
> the real supermen, and our natural leaders.
You have summed up the utter stupidity of bigots in a nutshell.
Susan
Parsifal
> On May 7, 7:52?pm, cactus <b...@nonespam.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Christopher A.Lee wrote:
> > > On Mon, 07 May 2007 21:49:26 GMT, cactus <b...@nonespam.com> wrote:
>
> > >> Venceremos wrote:
> > >>> On May 7, 1:19 am, cactus <b...@nonespam.com> wrote:
> > >>>> J Young wrote:
> > >>>>> Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
> > >>>>> of this great historical record. Let the reader decide.
> > >>>> And the only apologists for this forgery are antisemitic bigots,
> > >>>> piece of lying crap any more.
>
> > >>> In United States this is one of the best sellers. Are you kidding me?
>
> > >> It's no more a best-seller than "Mein Kampf." That is to say, decent
> > >> people don't buy it, but skinheads, neonazis and KKK losers do when they
> > >> get their allowances.
>
> > > It's worth reading that crap - otherwise you won't know what it says.
>
> > It's not worth reading that crap - I have better ways to pass the time,
> > says - people I trust have done the dirty work and summarized it for me.
>
> Perhaps you trust them but why should everyone else? Exactly who are
> these "people" anyhow? My point was that it should be the reader
> themselves who decide whether or not "Protocols" is authentic, not
> some faceless Zionist who has pre-ordained it as a forgery.
That book has been proven a forgery a long time ago. That you persist
in thinking that this has been called by "some faceless Zionest" only
proves, one more time, that you're a nazi turd.
BTW, how can a reader decides by himself that this book is a forgery?
According to your "logic", if I call the bible a forgery, then I guess
it is, right?
Geoff
>> It's not worth reading that crap - I have better ways to pass the
>> time, like doing taxes or digging in the back yard. And I do know
>> what it says - people I trust have done the dirty work and
>> summarized it for me.
>
> Very funny, you would have made an ideal citizen of the Third Reich
Says the antisemitic neonazi.
Geoff
Uh...they might not have needed justification, but they neeeded to sway
public opinion in their favor, which was swaying against the tsar and the
loyalists and getting worse with every passing day.
It's kind of like how the Bush administration cooked the books oin the
prewar intelligence for Iraq. You would think the loss of 3000 American
lives would have been enough to give them carte blanche to invade Iraq, but
the American public was skeptical of their motives...and as it turns out,
rightfully so.
flores...@hotmail.com
Impressive, as usual. Lameass Zionazi.
Let's repeat shall we:
Yeah we know. I mean we all know how Jews really DON'T want to
dominate
flores...@hotmail.com
> On 7 Mai, 04:50, J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
>
> forgery several times.
The usual Zionazi red herring. You Zioturds of course howl FORGERY
or FAKE QUOTE anytime something is stated that you don't want
stated. The Sharon comment about controlling America comes to
mind. Pointless lies all. The observational evidence is
overwhelming
that Israel has the U.S. under control to a large degree, and
likewise,
the Protocols decribe exactly what the Zioscum ACTUALLY DO, so
why bother with the silly denials? It doesn't matter who wrote it,
only
that is is TRUTH. TRUTH, that most hated word in Zioturd land.
Geoff
Creepy usenet stalker!
Douglas Berry
<ser...@bellsouth.net> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
The bomb that killed Alexander II was thrown by Ignacy Hryniewiecki.
He was a Pole.
John Baker
Moron.
cactus
That's right we don't.
how they really DON'T practice mass manipulation
> through their
> weaseling into the key areas of society;
That's right, we don't. We get there on merit, ability and our work
ethic. You are jealous because you lack all three.
how they are just a bunch of
> good Joes who
> don't mind what people say about them or their Holocaust™.
The first part is correct. The second part is not, because it's
something we share with a total of some 5 Million others. It's
everybody's Holocaust, and to deny it is to allow it to happen again.
Which I'm sure would please you greatly as long as it happened to
someone else.
They're
> just fun-loving
> and jolly folk who spread love and kindness,
How did you know?
without a bigoted or
> hateful bone in their
> bodies.
As the saying goes, "Jews are like everybody else, only more so."
Shit, everybody knows this.
Even you.
What a ridiculous idea that
> these good folk
> could be anything like what the Protocol decribes..
>
You got it. Now all you have to do is apologize for your baseless lies,
and mend your ways.
>
>
Robert
Like the Torah just a bunch of lies?
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
flores...@hotmail.com
<yawn, snip usual tiresome Zionazi fibbery>
Another projectionist Zionazi doing the dance.
Just a reminder though: Zionazis have attained their power
not by special talent, intelligence, or anything other than
their usual solidarity in their secret war to destroy the
Anglo fabric upon which America was built...all in that
3,000-year-old dream of world domination. But it
will backfire on you as it always has.
Robert
wrote:
He's a very good citizen supporter, of the next generation. The
Israel government. Only difference is the name of the religion, and
the name of the victims.
cactus
hatred into actually accomplishing something worthwhile, you might make
something of yourself.
We won't let you pull us down to your level; let us help you achieve
your human potential. You have nothing to lose but your burden of hate.
fla...@verizon.net
On 8-May-2007, cactus <b...@nonespam.com> wrote:
> flores...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On May 8, 12:12 pm, cactus <b...@nonespam.com> wrote:
> >
> > <yawn, snip usual tiresome Zionazi fibbery>
Translation: the stupid cowardly liar can't refute anything
you say, so he projects his own dishonesty onto it as an
excuse to ignore it all.
> >
> > Another projectionist Zionazi doing the dance.
> >
(See previous)
> >
> > Just a reminder though: Zionazis have attained their power
> > not by special talent, intelligence, or anything other than
> > their usual solidarity in their secret war to destroy the
> > Anglo fabric upon which America was built...
ROTFLOL!!
We're so stupid & inept that we have them all under our thumb?
Anyone else wanna try & parse that??
> > all in that
> > 3,000-year-old dream of world domination. But it
> > will backfire on you as it always has.
> >
> Jealous, aren't you?
Inventively so, yes.
> If you put the energy you waste on irrational
> hatred into actually accomplishing something worthwhile, you might make
> something of yourself.
>
You are far more optimistic than I am.
He is too mired in his own twisted self-loathing
that he can never crawl out from under it.
> We won't let you pull us down to your level; let us help you achieve
> your human potential. You have nothing to lose but your burden of hate.
If only.
Susan
fla...@verizon.net
How many times will they have to prove my dictum about
"bigots project" before it gets enshrined as a truism?
Susan
fla...@verizon.net
On 8-May-2007, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
> ElParedon wrote:
> > As if Okhrana needed justification after Jewish assassination of Czar
> > Alexander II
No, it was the Jewish catching & eating the Roadrunner that did it.
Good grief.
>
> Uh...they might not have needed justification, but they neeeded to sway
> public opinion in their favor, which was swaying against the tsar and the
> loyalists and getting worse with every passing day.
So are you saying that Seredin, here, didn't make up the lie about
Alexander II being killed by a Jew, & that the Russians did?
Susan
fla...@verizon.net
On 8-May-2007, John Baker <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote:
> On 8 May 2007 05:17:18 -0700, flores...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >On May 7, 12:17 am, Parsifal <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 7 Mai, 04:50, J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
> >> > of this great historical record. Let the reader decide.
> >>
> >> More prrof that you're a nazi turd: this "document" has been proven a
> >> forgery several times.
> >
> >The usual Zionazi red herring. You Zioturds of course howl FORGERY
> >or FAKE QUOTE anytime something is stated that you don't want
> >stated. The Sharon comment about controlling America comes to
> >mind. Pointless lies all.
See? Even he admits that he & his ilk are lying, and that it is pointless.
> > The observational evidence is
> >overwhelming
> >that Israel has the U.S. under control to a large degree,
Except that when asked to *provide* the evidence, they have
only repetition of proven lies.
> > and
> >likewise,
> >the Protocols decribe exactly what the Zioscum ACTUALLY DO, so
> >why bother with the silly denials? It doesn't matter who wrote it,
> >only
> >that is is TRUTH. TRUTH, that most hated word in Zioturd land.
>
> Moron.
He's a projectionist loser moron, actually.
Susan
cactus
It will probably never happen. But the moral thing to do is make the
offer. Tikkun Olam and all that.
flores...@hotmail.com
> > > On May 8, 12:12 pm, cactus <b...@nonespam.com> wrote:
>
> > > <yawn, snip usual tiresome Zionazi fibbery>
>
> Translation: the stupid cowardly liar can't refute anything
> you say, so he projects his own dishonesty onto it as an
> excuse to ignore it all.
Teeheeeee, the mindset of the projectioning Blowhole revealed.
Hey Blowhole, you're too dumb to realize you've just explained
why your your typing dorsal fin always becomes inactive when
it comes to responding to the myriad of facts I present on nearly
a daily basis here. Blowhole pretends to have me killfiled
as an excuse to ignore it all. Hey Blowhole, tell us how
Zionazis really don't want to dominate the world, how they
don't believe in the Talmud and its hatemongering.
<crickets go *chirp* *chirp* *chirp*> :):)
Geoff
> So are you saying that Seredin, here, didn't make up the lie about
> Alexander II being killed by a Jew, & that the Russians did?
It's hard to tell from their names what most of their religious/cultural
persuasions were.
Nikolai Kibalchich, the son of an Orthodox priest, was executed. Four
others - Sophia Perovskaya, Nikolai Rysakov, Timofei Mikhailov, Andrei
Zhelyabov - all sound like good ol' Russian Orthodox names. They were all
executed.
Interestingly, the one conspirator that was definitely of Jewish heritage,
Gesya Gelfman, was sent to Siberia since she was pregnant. I'll bet she had
a miserable end. Fortunately, it was relatively quick...one year.
In all likelihood, the revolutionary group Narodnaya Volya was probably an
equal opportunity cabal composed of the downtrodden castes of Tsarist
Russia, which undeniably included, but was not exclusive to, Jews. Most were
probably not Jews since they were a minority of the population as a whole.
So in conclusion, his statement is not exactly true. Was it a lie? I doubt
it. He probably read some antisemitic propaganda and probably believes it.
It's pretty sad that some people get their history in this way.
flores...@hotmail.com
> On 8-May-2007, John Baker <n...@bizniz.net> wrote:
>
> > On 8 May 2007 05:17:18 -0700, floresriki...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > >On May 7, 12:17 am, Parsifal <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> On 7 Mai, 04:50, J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > >> > Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
> > >> > of this great historical record. Let the reader decide.
>
> > >> More prrof that you're a nazi turd: this "document" has been proven a
> > >> forgery several times.
>
> > >The usual Zionazi red herring. You Zioturds of course howl FORGERY
> > >or FAKE QUOTE anytime something is stated that you don't want
> > >stated. The Sharon comment about controlling America comes to
> > >mind. Pointless lies all.
>
> See? Even he admits that he & his ilk are lying, and that it is pointless.
Aw Blowhole, yer such a clever sea mammal!
>
> > > The observational evidence is
> > >overwhelming
> > >that Israel has the U.S. under control to a large degree,
>
> Except that when asked to *provide* the evidence, they have
> only repetition of proven lies.
Sure Blowhole. AIPAC's stranglehold on Congress and the President,
Zionazi control of the TV networks, the movie industry, the press,
such as the notable Jew York Times, and the Zionazi infiltration of
the
judicial and legislative with their "hate crime" shit, and their
dominance
in the business segment is all just a figment of my imagination.
The WTC Towers were full of them before they went down, EXCEPT of
course on 9-11-01, when most knew what was coming, and didn't
show for work.
Robert
You know if you tried hard enough you could rise to the level of a
human. Rather than superstitious bronze age sheep herders, scared
shitless of skypixie.
cactus
his level of degradation?
Tom S
>On May 7, 7:52?pm, cactus <b...@nonespam.com> wrote:
>> Christopher A.Lee wrote:
>> > On Mon, 07 May 2007 21:49:26 GMT, cactus <b...@nonespam.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> Venceremos wrote:
>> >>> On May 7, 1:19 am, cactus <b...@nonespam.com> wrote:
>> >>>> J Young wrote:
>> >>>>> Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
>> >>>>> of this great historical record. Let the reader decide.
>> >>>> And the only apologists for this forgery are antisemitic bigots,
>> >>>> hatemongers and the like. o decent person has anything to do with that
>> >>>> piece of lying crap any more.
>>
>> >>> In United States this is one of the best sellers. Are you kidding me?
>>
>> >> It's no more a best-seller than "Mein Kampf." That is to say, decent
>> >> people don't buy it, but skinheads, neonazis and KKK losers do when they
>> >> get their allowances.
>>
>> > It's worth reading that crap - otherwise you won't know what it says.
>>
>> It's not worth reading that crap - I have better ways to pass the time,
>> like doing taxes or digging in the back yard.
nd I do know what it
>> says - people I trust have done the dirty work and summarized it for me.
>>
>
>
>Perhaps you trust them but why should everyone else? Exactly who are
>these "people" anyhow? My point was that it should be the reader
>themselves who decide whether or not "Protocols" is authentic, not
>some faceless Zionist who has pre-ordained it as a forgery.
>
>
"Scholars generally agree that the Okhrana, the secret police of the
Russian Empire, fabricated the text in the late 1890s or early 1900s."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocols_of_elder_zion
Why should anyone want to encourage people to read something that was
first debunked in the 1920's and decide for themselves if it is
authentic.
Why would any reasonable person refer to it as a "great historical
record". It is a pile of crap, JYoung. You must really be getting
desperate for something to post.
Tom S.
Ray Fischer
>On May 7, 9:56 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> <floresriki...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On May 6, 11:36 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> >> J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
>> >> >of this great historical record.
>>
>> >> And the general consensus is that it is anti-semitic and a lie.
>>
>> >Yeah we know. I mean we all know how Jews really DON'T want to
>> >dominate
>> >the world;
>>
>> Unlike you modest, unassuming, neonazis?
>
>Impressive, as usual. Lameass Zionazi.
>
>Let's repeat shall we:
Let's not, neonazi. Mindless hate and bigotry are nothing new
an d nothing interesting.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
flores...@hotmail.com
> <floresriki...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 7, 9:56 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >> <floresriki...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On May 6, 11:36 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >> >> J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> >Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and validity
> >> >> >of this great historical record.
>
> >> >> And the general consensus is that it is anti-semitic and a lie.
>
> >> >Yeah we know. I mean we all know how Jews really DON'T want to
> >> >dominate
> >> >the world;
>
> >> Unlike you modest, unassuming, neonazis?
>
> >Impressive, as usual. Lameass Zionazi.
>
> >Let's repeat shall we:
>
> Let's not, neonazi.
You've got neonazis in your head, ziokook.
Tell me one thing Kook, how many neonazis have their
dirty little claws in AIPAC, who control American politics?
How many neonazis have major influence in all branches
of media?
How many neonazis have infiltrated the judicial, legislative,
and have control of so much of the world of finance?
How many neonazis have a book a bigoted as the Talmud?
Ignorant kook. You've got no ammo for refute, so you babble
on with tired cliches.
Parsifal
Sure sucks to be a mediocre wasp, doesn't it?
flores...@hotmail.com
Heehee, they don't call you 'dirty jew' for nothin'. But hey, isn't
it always you howling heebs who are on the endless whine
about how pathetic you are, and how you need all that
special treatment and protection from us WASPS? You're
well know for crying for sympathy while stealing from those
buying into your crap. Straighten up and people won't hate
you. But I realize that's like telling an ape not to scratch his
nuts.
The WASPS are the golden goose of the world. Without those
WASPS your ilk hate so much, you'd have no America to try and
steal. Show some respect.
Geoff
>> The WTC Towers were full of them before they went down, EXCEPT of
>> course on 9-11-01, when most knew what was coming, and didn't
>> show for work.-
>
> Sure sucks to be a mediocre wasp, doesn't it?
I heard he's the tobacky spitting champion at the kkkountry kkklub.
Geoff
> On Tue, 8 May 2007 00:30:24 -0400 there was an Ancient "ElParedon"
> <ser...@bellsouth.net> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
>>
>> "Douglas Berry" <pengu...@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:unlv3350tarb86lbb...@4ax.com...
>>> On 6 May 2007 19:50:34 -0700 there was an Ancient J Young
>>> <youngo...@aol.com> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
>>>
>>>> Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and
>>>> validity of this great historical record. Let the reader decide.
>>>
>>> No, let the *facts* decide. The Protocols are a pastich of two
>>> earlier works, an anti-Napoleanist tract titled "Dialogue in Hell
>>> Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu" by Maurice Joly and Hermann
>>> Goedsche's 1868 fiction novel, "Biarritz"
>>>
>>> It was assembled by the Russian Okhrana (the secret police) in the
>>> 1890s as a way to justify further repression of Russian Jews and to
>>
>> As if Okhrana needed justification after Jewish assassination of Czar
>> Alexander II
>
> The bomb that killed Alexander II was thrown by Ignacy Hryniewiecki.
> He was a Pole.
By heritage, yes. But he was from Lithuania which was then being russkyfied.
No wonder he was pissed.
flores...@hotmail.com
Hey, what a coincidence. I heard that your date won Most Neatly
Trimmed
Mustache award at a recent meeting of the kkkosher kkklan get-
together.
Geoff
It's what we call a landing strip and that mustache is in her jeans.
flores...@hotmail.com
wrote:
> On 7 May 2007 05:48:26 -0700 there was an Ancient Venceremos> > THAT IS WHAT ZIONAZI BASTARDS WOULD LIKE YOU TO BELIEVE, BUT THE
> >EVIDENCE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU ALL: DO THE ZIONAZIS DOMINATE MEDIA,
> >BANKS, BIG BUSINESS, MONEY LENDERS, POLITICAL SYSTEM?
>
> >OF COURSE THEY DO! TRY GETTING ELECTED TO THE DOG CATCHERS POSITION
> >IF YOU ARE CRITICAL OF JEWS!z SEE WHAT HAPPENS!
>
> So, you are saying that a religious group that makes up 0.3% of the
> world's population are so strong, smart, resirceful, and determined
> that have managed to seize control of the entire world from the other
> 99.7%
No, my grubby little atheist friend, what he is stating is the fact
that the Zionazis have
managed to creep their way into authority the way they traditionally
aim to
do in host countries. Name me ONE American politician remaining in
office
who is openly critical of Israel, or anything Jewish. That said, I
realize that you probably
can't name the mayor of your city w/o looking it up. But ask any
public figure.
You DON'T DARE CRITICIZE ISRAEL OR ANYTHING JEWISH or you will
pay. That is rule number 1.
It amazes me though when I hear atheist types defending Zionaziism.
Aren't you
people supposed to be staunch defenders of freedom of speech, beliefs
and such
without others putting the thumbscrews on you or forcing you to
silence? These
crumbs you defend will work diligently to SILENCE your ass if you
start saying
things critical of them. You valiantly carry on the atheist/dumbass
tradition with
your vapid comments (Quite un-original too--you stole it from someone
else, which
makes sense as you've likely never had an original thought in your
life.)
flores...@hotmail.com
> As opposed to you neonazi lunatics?
Ah yes, Fay, how could I forget. Tell me this Fay:
How many neonazis have their
cactus
> On May 7, 9:59 pm, Douglas Berry <penguin_...@mindOBVIOUSspring.com>
> wrote:
>> On 7 May 2007 05:48:26 -0700 there was an Ancient Venceremos
>> <ser...@bellsouth.net> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
>>
>>> THAT IS WHAT ZIONAZI BASTARDS WOULD LIKE YOU TO BELIEVE, BUT THE
>>> EVIDENCE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU ALL: DO THE ZIONAZIS DOMINATE MEDIA,
>>> BANKS, BIG BUSINESS, MONEY LENDERS, POLITICAL SYSTEM?
>>> OF COURSE THEY DO! TRY GETTING ELECTED TO THE DOG CATCHERS POSITION
>>> IF YOU ARE CRITICAL OF JEWS!z SEE WHAT HAPPENS!
>> So, you are saying that a religious group that makes up 0.3% of the
>> world's population are so strong, smart, resirceful, and determined
>> that have managed to seize control of the entire world from the other
>> 99.7%
>
> No, my grubby little atheist friend, what he is stating is the fact
> that the Zionazis have
> managed to creep their way into authority the way they traditionally
> aim to
> do in host countries. Name me ONE American politician remaining in
> office
> who is openly critical of Israel, or anything Jewish.
There is no point. No matter how few or many were to be named you would
call it a small minority. You can't even name them because you haven't
done the research and want someone else to do it for you. That's a cheap
manipulative ploy on your part, and decent folks are getting wise to
your little games.
That said, I
> realize that you probably
> can't name the mayor of your city w/o looking it up. But ask any
> public figure.
> You DON'T DARE CRITICIZE ISRAEL OR ANYTHING JEWISH or you will
> pay. That is rule number 1.
You do not understand how people of good will can disagree. People like
you will not be happy until all the Jews are wiped out and you have
their money. Because of this you have no credibility and no standing in
a genuine discussion because all you do is spew lies and hatred. You
are part of the problem, not any solution.
>
> It amazes me though when I hear atheist types defending Zionaziism.
That's because you are a bigot, and refuse to understand anything
relating to human decency.
> Aren't you
> people supposed to be staunch defenders of freedom of speech, beliefs
> and such
> without others putting the thumbscrews on you or forcing you to
> silence?
No one is forcing you or them. Look at you, spewing your hate right here.
These
> crumbs you defend will work diligently to SILENCE your ass if you
> start saying
> things critical of them.
Have you been silenced yet? You are certainly marginalized, but that's
your doing.
You valiantly carry on the atheist/dumbass
> tradition with
> your vapid comments (Quite un-original too--you stole it from someone
> else, which
> makes sense as you've likely never had an original thought in your
> life.)
Now you are projecting your own inadequacies onto others. Pitiful.
flores...@hotmail.com
> floresriki...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On May 7, 9:59 pm, Douglas Berry <penguin_...@mindOBVIOUSspring.com>
> > wrote:
> >> On 7 May 2007 05:48:26 -0700 there was an Ancient Venceremos
> >> <ser...@bellsouth.net> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
>
> >>> THAT IS WHAT ZIONAZI BASTARDS WOULD LIKE YOU TO BELIEVE, BUT THE
> >>> EVIDENCE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU ALL: DO THE ZIONAZIS DOMINATE MEDIA,
> >>> BANKS, BIG BUSINESS, MONEY LENDERS, POLITICAL SYSTEM?
> >>> OF COURSE THEY DO! TRY GETTING ELECTED TO THE DOG CATCHERS POSITION
> >>> IF YOU ARE CRITICAL OF JEWS!z SEE WHAT HAPPENS!
> >> So, you are saying that a religious group that makes up 0.3% of the
> >> world's population are so strong, smart, resirceful, and determined
> >> that have managed to seize control of the entire world from the other
> >> 99.7%
>
> > No, my grubby little atheist friend, what he is stating is the fact
> > that the Zionazis have
> > managed to creep their way into authority the way they traditionally
> > aim to
> > do in host countries. Name me ONE American politician remaining in
> > office
> > who is openly critical of Israel, or anything Jewish.
>
> There is no point.
So, there is not ONE name provided. And there won't be either
because
most even semi-informed Americans know well that open debate on
Israel or anything Jewish is FORBIDDEN and not welcome. Mearsheimer
and Walt wrote a beautiful paper last year on this. NO American
publisher
would touch it. Forbidden subject.
>No matter how few or many were to be named you would
> call it a small minority. You can't even name them because you haven't
> done the research and want someone else to do it for you.
There aren't any sleazebag. I repeatedly challenge one of you crumbs
to provide the name of just one to give your argument even the tiniest
bit of cred, and you fail repeatedly. All politicians walk the
Zionist
line, out of fear and intimidation.
>That's a cheap
> manipulative ploy on your part, and decent folks are getting wise to
> your little games.
Decent folk are getting wise to YOUR little games, creep.
> That said, I
>
> > realize that you probably
> > can't name the mayor of your city w/o looking it up. But ask any
> > public figure.
> > You DON'T DARE CRITICIZE ISRAEL OR ANYTHING JEWISH or you will
> > pay. That is rule number 1.
>
> You do not understand how people of good will can disagree.
I do understand that there can be no disagreement when it comes
to Israel and Jews. Disagreeing can be quite damaging to one's
well-being, in fascist Zionazi America.
> People like
> you will not be happy until all the Jews are wiped out and you have
> their money.
Liar. You are Zionazi scum and your lies prove it.
> Because of this you have no credibility and no standing in
> a genuine discussion because all you do is spew lies and hatred. You
> are part of the problem, not any solution.
Congratulations, you just described yourself perfectly!
> > It amazes me though when I hear atheist types defending Zionaziism.
>
> That's because you are a bigot, and refuse to understand anything
> relating to human decency.
See above, scum.
> > Aren't you
> > people supposed to be staunch defenders of freedom of speech, beliefs
> > and such
> > without others putting the thumbscrews on you or forcing you to
> > silence?
>
> No one is forcing you or them. Look at you, spewing your hate right here.
I'm stating facts you don't like, hence the pathetic little smear
tactics.
You'd dearly love to silence me wouldn't ya. And if the American
people
continue to let you get in deeper, in ten years, USENET will be
censored
by the Zionazi USENET squad.
<rest of your Zionazi desperation snipped>
Prime Minister of the Kingdom of God
cactus
Not the hateful way you do it. There is plenty of discussion among
people of good will.
Have you ever thought about why you and your fellows have no support?
You certainly blame the Jews, but it's really your fault. You are simply
wrong - paranoid conspiracy theorist who resent Jews and other
minorities for being successful and passing you by economically. If you
put as much effort into bettering yourselves as you do into baseless
bigotry, you might turn into a productive, if not a decent, human being.
Mearsheimer
> and Walt wrote a beautiful paper last year on this. NO American
> publisher
> would touch it. Forbidden subject.
Maybe it was full of lies and distortions. He could, and probably did,
self-publish.
>
>> No matter how few or many were to be named you would
>> call it a small minority. You can't even name them because you haven't
>> done the research and want someone else to do it for you.
>
> There aren't any sleazebag. I repeatedly challenge one of you crumbs
> to provide the name of just one to give your argument even the tiniest
> bit of cred, and you fail repeatedly. All politicians walk the
> Zionist
> line, out of fear and intimidation.
You have no credibility anyway/
>
>> That's a cheap
>> manipulative ploy on your part, and decent folks are getting wise to
>> your little games.
>
> Decent folk are getting wise to YOUR little games, creep.
>
>> That said, I
>>
>>> realize that you probably
>>> can't name the mayor of your city w/o looking it up. But ask any
>>> public figure.
>>> You DON'T DARE CRITICIZE ISRAEL OR ANYTHING JEWISH or you will
>>> pay. That is rule number 1.
>> You do not understand how people of good will can disagree.
>
> I do understand that there can be no disagreement when it comes
> to Israel and Jews. Disagreeing can be quite damaging to one's
> well-being, in fascist Zionazi America.
>
You've survived to spew your hatred. What's your problem?
>> People like
>> you will not be happy until all the Jews are wiped out and you have
>> their money.
>
> Liar. You are Zionazi scum and your lies prove it.
So what would satisfy you?
>
>> Because of this you have no credibility and no standing in
>> a genuine discussion because all you do is spew lies and hatred. You
>> are part of the problem, not any solution.
>
> Congratulations, you just described yourself perfectly!
>
>>> It amazes me though when I hear atheist types defending Zionaziism.
>> That's because you are a bigot, and refuse to understand anything
>> relating to human decency.
>
> See above, scum.
>
>>> Aren't you
>>> people supposed to be staunch defenders of freedom of speech, beliefs
>>> and such
>>> without others putting the thumbscrews on you or forcing you to
>>> silence?
>> No one is forcing you or them. Look at you, spewing your hate right here.
>
> I'm stating facts you don't like, hence the pathetic little smear
> tactics.
I have yet to encounter a fact from you. All you have so far is lies,
innuendo and belief in a known forgery. You have no support for any of
your claims.
> You'd dearly love to silence me wouldn't ya.
No. There is freedom of speech, and lying hatemongers such as yourself
are the price we pay for that.
And if the American
> people
> continue to let you get in deeper, in ten years, USENET will be
> censored
> by the Zionazi USENET squad.
Paranoid, aren't you. There are some pretty good anti psychotic drugs
out there that do not have tarditive dyskinesia as a side effect. Maybe
you should try some.
flores...@hotmail.com
I realize that you're not firing on all cylinders, but I've been known
to kick around a dog turd or two. Okay, here's the fact you
keep dancing around: There are no politicians who openly
oppose anything Israel or Jewish. I have repeatedly asked
your stinky ilk to challenge this fact with the name of just ONE
who does. So far, ZILCH! So, what we have left is hard-core
fact. All politicians who stay in office walk the Zionazi line
out of fear and intimidation.
>All you have so far is lies,
I agree, that's all you have; which is the bread & butter of Zionist
scum.
Oh yeah, and you also have the always popular "bigot" and "hate"
when things get tight.
> innuendo and belief in a known forgery. You have no support for any of
> your claims.
I have not made any claims as to who authored the publication
mentioned
in the subject line of this thread. As I stated, it really doesn't
matter who
wrote it, only that its tenents are followed to the letter by Zionazis
with
their dreams of world domination, which they most certainly do.
> > You'd dearly love to silence me wouldn't ya.
>
> No. There is freedom of speech,
Ask Jimmy Carter and Mearsheimer and Walt, or any other public figure
who dares criticize Israel or Jews. The ZioSmear machine has been
full
tilt trying to defame and insult these fine men for stating facts that
don't
meet Zionazi approval.
> And if the American
>
> > people
> > continue to let you get in deeper, in ten years, USENET will be
> > censored
> > by the Zionazi USENET squad.
>
> Paranoid, aren't you. There are some pretty good anti psychotic drugs
> out there that do not have tarditive dyskinesia as a side effect.
This is something you seem to at least know something about.
fla...@verizon.net
On 9-May-2007, Parsifal <jeanpasc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8 mai, 23:48, floresriki...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On May 8, 3:09 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 8-May-2007, John Baker <n...@bizniz.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > On 8 May 2007 05:17:18 -0700, floresriki...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > > >On May 7, 12:17 am, Parsifal <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> On 7 Mai, 04:50, J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > >> > Much has been debated over the years about the accuracy and
> > > > >validity
> > > > >> > of this great historical record. Let the reader decide.
> >
> > > > >> More prrof that you're a nazi turd: this "document" has been
> > > > >proven a
> > > > >> forgery several times.
> >
> > > > >The usual Zionazi red herring. You Zioturds of course howl
> > > > >FORGERY
> > > > >or FAKE QUOTE anytime something is stated that you don't want
> > > > >stated. The Sharon comment about controlling America comes to
> > > > >mind. Pointless lies all.
> >
> > > See? Even he admits that he & his ilk are lying, and that it is
> > > pointless.
> >
> > Aw Blowhole, yer such a clever sea mammal!
> >
See what I mean about them projecting?
& being so eager to prove me correct - every time!
(Except, of course, he's not clever at all...)
> >
> >
> > > > > The observational evidence is
> > > > >overwhelming
> > > > >that Israel has the U.S. under control to a large degree,
> >
> > > Except that when asked to *provide* the evidence, they have
> > > only repetition of proven lies.
> >
> > Sure Blowhole.
And again...
But it was nice of him to not only admit that he lies, but give the usual
list
so we can see what they all do.
See...?
> > AIPAC's stranglehold on Congress
Lie #1
> > and the President,
Lie #2
(The Roadmap should have been proof of that - but I guess he just dumber
than other bigots)
> > Zionazi
Lie #4
> > control of the TV networks
Lie #5
> > , the movie industry
Lie #6
> > , the press,
Lie #7
(just look at Al Reuters!)
> > such as the notable Jew York Times
Lie #8
(And a darned funny one)
> >, and the Zionazi
Lie #9
> > infiltration of
> > the
> > judicial
Lie #10
> > and legislative
Lie #11
> >
> > with their "hate crime" shit, and their
> > dominance
> > in the business segment
Lie #12
> > is all just a figment of my imagination.
> >
Nice of the projectionary loser to admit this, too.
> > The WTC Towers were full of them before they went down, EXCEPT of
> > course on 9-11-01, when most knew what was coming, and didn't
> > show for work.-
And there's one of the biggest debunked lies of them all.
>
> Sure sucks to be a mediocre wasp, doesn't it?
He wouldn't know about being that accomplished.
Susan
fla...@verizon.net
You now, I was going to point out that homophobia of his magnitude
is usually indicative solely of self-hating homosexuals-in-denial (& we
all know his "kkklan" reference was the usual projectionism), but I
think your answer was much better.
Susan
fla...@verizon.net
On 9-May-2007, cactus <b...@nonespam.com> wrote:
> You valiantly carry on the atheist/dumbass
> > tradition with
> > your vapid comments (Quite un-original too--you stole it from someone
> > else, which
> > makes sense as you've likely never had an original thought in your
> > life.)
>
>
> Now you are projecting your own inadequacies onto others. Pitiful.
Whadaya mean "now"?
He's never done anything else.
Watch, he'll do it again - just wait!
Susan
Geoff
>>> Hey, what a coincidence. I heard that your date won Most Neatly
>>> Trimmed
>>> Mustache award at a recent meeting of the kkkosher kkklan get-
>>> together.
>>
>> It's what we call a landing strip and that mustache is in her jeans.
>
> You now, I was going to point out that homophobia of his magnitude
> is usually indicative solely of self-hating homosexuals-in-denial (&
> we all know his "kkklan" reference was the usual projectionism), but I
> think your answer was much better.
Well, double done dittos right back atcher. Your response was a bit
clinical, but it hits the head right on the nail now, don't it.
fla...@verizon.net
On 10-May-2007, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
Yes, it usually tends to be...
>, but it hits the head right on the nail now, don't it.
Why, thank you, sir!
Susan
Parsifal
No one calls me that since I'm not Jewish.
But please, go on...
>But hey, isn't
> it always you howling heebs who are on the endless whine
> about how pathetic you are, and how you need all that
> special treatment and protection from us WASPS? You're
> well know for crying for sympathy while stealing from those
> buying into your crap. Straighten up and people won't hate
> you. But I realize that's like telling an ape not to scratch his
> nuts.
>
> The WASPS are the golden goose of the world. Without those
> WASPS your ilk hate so much, you'd have no America to try and
> steal. Show some respect.-
I you want respect, how about deserving it?
flores...@hotmail.com
>
> No one calls me that since I'm not Jewish.
I thought that was a possibility. But you WERE singing
the song they've taught you, so not much difference.
If you support their agenda, you're one of them in
my view. Get a clue, if you truly strive for a bigot-free
society with true freedoms, you're supporting the
wrong crowd.
flores...@hotmail.com
>
> > >> I heard he's the tobacky spitting champion at the kkkountry kkklub.
>
> > > Hey, what a coincidence. I heard that your date won Most Neatly
> > > Trimmed
> > > Mustache award at a recent meeting of the kkkosher kkklan get-
> > > together.
>
> > It's what we call a landing strip and that mustache is in her jeans.
>
> You now, I was going to point out that homophobia of his magnitude
What the hell is this spew Blowhole? You are one dumb blubberbutt.
The *women* he dates have mustaches. Some tribal women are hairy
apes. Some kook konverts are sea mammals.
> is usually indicative solely of self-hating homosexuals-in-denial (& we
> all know his "kkklan" reference was the usual projectionism), but I
> think your answer was much better.
Usual vanilla generic spew from Blowhole. Bigot without a
clue........
or original thoughts.
flores...@hotmail.com
<snip usual>
Blowhole, do you really think that your repetitive, morally
bankrupt and hilarious replies actually prove anything, except
that you're an ignorant 6-ton bigot?
Geoff
>> You now, I was going to point out that homophobia of his magnitude
>
> What the hell is this spew Blowhole? You are one dumb blubberbutt.
> The *women* he dates have mustaches. Some tribal women are hairy
> apes. Some kook konverts are sea mammals.
>
>> is usually indicative solely of self-hating homosexuals-in-denial (&
>> we all know his "kkklan" reference was the usual projectionism), but
>> I think your answer was much better.
>
> Usual vanilla generic spew from Blowhole. Bigot without a
> clue........
> or original thoughts.
That's it...I'm junking my IronyWall 3000. It just doesn't have the capacity
for shit like this and doesn't have all the nice bells and whistles that
supposedly come with the Irony-O-Meter Mark VI and Mark VII models.
I'm looking for any feedback anyone has on either of these models. Are they
as cracked up as they claim? How much will one of these buggers set you
back?
--
Geoff O'Furman
Head Coach, Varsity Hockey
University of Ediacara
AA #22??
Parsifal
> On May 10, 1:59 am, Parsifal <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > No one calls me that since I'm not Jewish.
>
> I thought that was a possibility. But you WERE singing
> the song they've taught you,
No one taught me anything.
On the other hand, YOU sing the song you've been taught be by nazis.
Don't you have respect for the people from your own country who died
fighting against nazi Germany?
so not much difference.
> If you support their agenda,
There's no agenda, nazi turd.
you're one of them in
> my view.
I consider it an honor that you consider me as "one of them". I'd
rather be on the side of Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Sammy Davis,
Paul Simon, Lou Reed, the Coen brothers, Woody Allen, Noam Shomsky,
Susan Sonntag, Paul Auster, Saul Bellow, Gertrude Stein, Philip Roth,
Norman Mailer, Arthur Miller, Stan Getz, Benny Goodman, Lee Konitz,
John Zorn, Mel Tormé, Paul Desmond, Uri Caine, Popa Chubby, Fred
Hersh, Steve Lacy, Leonard Bernstein, Yehudi Menuhin, Michael Tilson-
Thomas, Aaron Copland, George Gershwin, Oscar Levant, Steve Reich,
Philip Glass, Kurt Weill, Annie Leibowitz, Diane Arbus, Robert Capa,
the Marx brothers, Hank Greenberg, Sandy Koufax, Mark Spitz, to name
only a few than to be on yours...
Get a clue, if you truly strive for a bigot-free
> society with true freedoms, you're supporting the
> wrong crowd.
As long as I'm not on your side, I'm fine.
It sure sucks to be a mediocre WASP...