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pnyikos
May 18, 2012, 5:31:01 PM5/18/12
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On May 10, 7:19 pm, "dd...@bellsouth.net" <dd...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> People who oppose legal abortion often say, "There's adoption." There
> are bad aspects to adoption. Adoptees are 2-3% of the population and
> 16% of serial murderers.
Huh??? where do you get this statistic, Denise?
> They are also 15 times more likely than other
> people to kill 1 or both of their parents.
Documentation?
> However, no one is proposing adoption be made illegal. Therefore, it
> seems that any pregnant girl or woman could say to herself, "If it
> turns out I don't want to raise a baby or can't raise a baby, I'll
> just place it for adoption."
>
> Yet girls and women panic at learning they are pregnant. They seek
> abortions (legal or illegal). They even commit suicide on learning of
> a pregnancy.
>
> Why?
>
> Why aren't 1 million and a 1/2 babies per year placed for adoption?
Partly because the women are actively discouraged from doing it by
abortion clinic personnel who aren't in a position to make any money
off adoptions. I believe that includes most if not all abortion
clinic personnel. Here is one woman's testimony:
[QUOTE]
My experience with Planned Parenthood left me with a bad taste in my
mouth. Not only did they fail to offer me any real help to prepare for
parenthood -- something you'd assume they would do with a name like
that -- but they also treated me in a way that just screamed "Have an
abortion or get out!"
...
All I got from Planned Parenthood was a $9 pregnancy test and a woman
telling me that I'm growing a leech.
[END QUOTE]
The stats on Planned Parenthood tell a vivid story:
2009: 332,278 abortions; 977 adoption referrals.
2010: 329,445 abortions; 841 adoption referrals
Peter Nyikos
> People who oppose legal abortion often say, "There's adoption." There
> are bad aspects to adoption. Adoptees are 2-3% of the population and
> 16% of serial murderers.
Huh??? where do you get this statistic, Denise?
> They are also 15 times more likely than other
> people to kill 1 or both of their parents.
Documentation?
> However, no one is proposing adoption be made illegal. Therefore, it
> seems that any pregnant girl or woman could say to herself, "If it
> turns out I don't want to raise a baby or can't raise a baby, I'll
> just place it for adoption."
>
> Yet girls and women panic at learning they are pregnant. They seek
> abortions (legal or illegal). They even commit suicide on learning of
> a pregnancy.
>
> Why?
>
> Why aren't 1 million and a 1/2 babies per year placed for adoption?
Partly because the women are actively discouraged from doing it by
abortion clinic personnel who aren't in a position to make any money
off adoptions. I believe that includes most if not all abortion
clinic personnel. Here is one woman's testimony:
[QUOTE]
My experience with Planned Parenthood left me with a bad taste in my
mouth. Not only did they fail to offer me any real help to prepare for
parenthood -- something you'd assume they would do with a name like
that -- but they also treated me in a way that just screamed "Have an
abortion or get out!"
...
All I got from Planned Parenthood was a $9 pregnancy test and a woman
telling me that I'm growing a leech.
[END QUOTE]
The stats on Planned Parenthood tell a vivid story:
2009: 332,278 abortions; 977 adoption referrals.
2010: 329,445 abortions; 841 adoption referrals
Peter Nyikos
pnyikos
May 18, 2012, 5:54:12 PM5/18/12
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On May 12, 2:56 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
That's not the main reason; the main reason is that abortions and the
loss of stigma of single motherhood have seriously depleted the pool
of babies available for adoption.
By the way, I have read somewhere that half of abortions are due to
contraception failure. Can either of you two women confirm this?
> And since
> we're overpopulated,
Who is "we", and how do you determine whether a country is
overpopulated? India is becoming more prosperous, not less.
Japan is facing a serious population "implosion"; so is Europe. See
url at end for Japan.
> women who know they can't raise a child, or
> should know they can't should be directed to abortions, because we
> can't afford to take care of the overpopulated world we have,.
"Can't afford" = "forced to buy used cars all the time"? You liberals
have strange ideas on what is ''poor" and what is "rich"-- I'm having
an extended debate with Silent O on this matter; he called $353,819
per year "practically poverty level".
Of course, the fact that the topic of discussion was the salaries of
Planned Parenthood fat cats may have had something to do with it:
2011 salaries:
President Cecile Richards $353,819
Chief Operating Officer Maryana Iskander $288,886
Chief Financial Officer Maria Acosta $263,443
VP of Medical Affairs Vanessa Cullins $257,115
VP of General Counsel Barbara Otten $251,379
VP of Public Policy Laurie Rubiner $248,438
VP of Operations Karen Ruffatto $247,932
VP of Affiliates Lisa David $245,322
http://www.stopp.org/pdfs/2011_PP_CEO_Report.pdf
Note how we aren't even down to $200,000, which I already classify as
"rich". Even regional CEOs sometimes get that much or more:
Planned Parenthood of the Great Northwest
2001 E Madison Seattle, Washington 98122
P: 206-328-7734
F: 206-328-7522
CEO: Chris Charbonneau
Base Compensation: $259,405
> We
> aren't making any more resources, we can't create more land (but are
> losing it to sea level rising) but we can stop breeding. Start by
> taxing breeders at the same rate of nonbreeders, no subsidies, no
> programs to help only people with children. Maybe demand that
> breeders post a bond before they can raise a child. Give double SS
> benefits to people who didn't breed, and cut SS to those who raised
> children at taxpayer expense who didn't produce any good or cost
> society anything outside of education.
With your ideas, the Japanese may go to extinction earlier than the
3011 date given the estimates by a group of population researchers at
Tohoku University. Here is a "doomsday" clock they have provided:
http://mega.econ.tohoku.ac.jp/Children/index_en.jsp
You may need to click on "English" to read it.
Peter Nyikos
> On May 10, 4:19 pm, "dd...@bellsouth.net" <dd...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > Why aren't 1 million and a 1/2 babies per year placed for adoption?
>
> Uh, because there aren't that many people willing to adopt.
>
> > Why aren't 1 million and a 1/2 babies per year placed for adoption?
>
That's not the main reason; the main reason is that abortions and the
loss of stigma of single motherhood have seriously depleted the pool
of babies available for adoption.
By the way, I have read somewhere that half of abortions are due to
contraception failure. Can either of you two women confirm this?
> And since
> we're overpopulated,
Who is "we", and how do you determine whether a country is
overpopulated? India is becoming more prosperous, not less.
Japan is facing a serious population "implosion"; so is Europe. See
url at end for Japan.
> women who know they can't raise a child, or
> should know they can't should be directed to abortions, because we
> can't afford to take care of the overpopulated world we have,.
"Can't afford" = "forced to buy used cars all the time"? You liberals
have strange ideas on what is ''poor" and what is "rich"-- I'm having
an extended debate with Silent O on this matter; he called $353,819
per year "practically poverty level".
Of course, the fact that the topic of discussion was the salaries of
Planned Parenthood fat cats may have had something to do with it:
2011 salaries:
President Cecile Richards $353,819
Chief Operating Officer Maryana Iskander $288,886
Chief Financial Officer Maria Acosta $263,443
VP of Medical Affairs Vanessa Cullins $257,115
VP of General Counsel Barbara Otten $251,379
VP of Public Policy Laurie Rubiner $248,438
VP of Operations Karen Ruffatto $247,932
VP of Affiliates Lisa David $245,322
http://www.stopp.org/pdfs/2011_PP_CEO_Report.pdf
Note how we aren't even down to $200,000, which I already classify as
"rich". Even regional CEOs sometimes get that much or more:
Planned Parenthood of the Great Northwest
2001 E Madison Seattle, Washington 98122
P: 206-328-7734
F: 206-328-7522
CEO: Chris Charbonneau
Base Compensation: $259,405
> We
> aren't making any more resources, we can't create more land (but are
> losing it to sea level rising) but we can stop breeding. Start by
> taxing breeders at the same rate of nonbreeders, no subsidies, no
> programs to help only people with children. Maybe demand that
> breeders post a bond before they can raise a child. Give double SS
> benefits to people who didn't breed, and cut SS to those who raised
> children at taxpayer expense who didn't produce any good or cost
> society anything outside of education.
With your ideas, the Japanese may go to extinction earlier than the
3011 date given the estimates by a group of population researchers at
Tohoku University. Here is a "doomsday" clock they have provided:
http://mega.econ.tohoku.ac.jp/Children/index_en.jsp
You may need to click on "English" to read it.
Peter Nyikos
Andrew W
May 20, 2012, 3:30:50 AM5/20/12
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"pnyikos" <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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The Amazon jungle is thinning at an alarming rate.
Pollution is getting out of control in many countries.
More and more animal species are going extinct.
The list goes on.
>
> Japan is facing a serious population "implosion"; so is Europe. See
> url at end for Japan.
>
>> women who know they can't raise a child, or
>> should know they can't should be directed to abortions, because we
>> can't afford to take care of the overpopulated world we have,.
>
> "Can't afford" = "forced to buy used cars all the time"? You liberals
> have strange ideas on what is ''poor" and what is "rich"-- I'm having
> an extended debate with Silent O on this matter; he called $353,819
> per year "practically poverty level".
>
> Of course, the fact that the topic of discussion was the salaries of
> Planned Parenthood fat cats may have had something to do with it:
>
--
If you find from your own experience that something is a fact and it
contradicts what some authority has written down, then you must abandon
the authority and base your reasoning on your own findings. ~Leonardo
da Vinci
Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory. ~Leonardo da Vinci
news:87cb6192-cae5-49e9...@3g2000vbx.googlegroups.com
> On May 12, 2:56 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 10, 4:19 pm, "dd...@bellsouth.net" <dd...@bellsouth.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Why aren't 1 million and a 1/2 babies per year placed for adoption?
>>
>> Uh, because there aren't that many people willing to adopt.
>
> That's not the main reason; the main reason is that abortions and the
> loss of stigma of single motherhood have seriously depleted the pool
> of babies available for adoption.
>
> By the way, I have read somewhere that half of abortions are due to
> contraception failure. Can either of you two women confirm this?
>
>> And since
>> we're overpopulated,
>
> Who is "we", and how do you determine whether a country is
> overpopulated? India is becoming more prosperous, not less.
>
Farming soils are becoming more and more depleted.
>> On May 10, 4:19 pm, "dd...@bellsouth.net" <dd...@bellsouth.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Why aren't 1 million and a 1/2 babies per year placed for adoption?
>>
>> Uh, because there aren't that many people willing to adopt.
>
> That's not the main reason; the main reason is that abortions and the
> loss of stigma of single motherhood have seriously depleted the pool
> of babies available for adoption.
>
> By the way, I have read somewhere that half of abortions are due to
> contraception failure. Can either of you two women confirm this?
>
>> And since
>> we're overpopulated,
>
> Who is "we", and how do you determine whether a country is
> overpopulated? India is becoming more prosperous, not less.
>
The Amazon jungle is thinning at an alarming rate.
Pollution is getting out of control in many countries.
More and more animal species are going extinct.
The list goes on.
>
> Japan is facing a serious population "implosion"; so is Europe. See
> url at end for Japan.
>
>> women who know they can't raise a child, or
>> should know they can't should be directed to abortions, because we
>> can't afford to take care of the overpopulated world we have,.
>
> "Can't afford" = "forced to buy used cars all the time"? You liberals
> have strange ideas on what is ''poor" and what is "rich"-- I'm having
> an extended debate with Silent O on this matter; he called $353,819
> per year "practically poverty level".
>
> Of course, the fact that the topic of discussion was the salaries of
> Planned Parenthood fat cats may have had something to do with it:
>
If you find from your own experience that something is a fact and it
contradicts what some authority has written down, then you must abandon
the authority and base your reasoning on your own findings. ~Leonardo
da Vinci
Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory. ~Leonardo da Vinci
elizabeth
May 20, 2012, 7:08:10 AM5/20/12
to
>
> Note how we aren't even down to $200,000, which I already classify as
> "rich". Even regional CEOs sometimes get that much or more:
>
> Planned Parenthood of the Great Northwest
> 2001 E Madison Seattle, Washington 98122
> P: 206-328-7734
> F: 206-328-7522
> CEO: Chris Charbonneau
> Base Compensation: $259,405
>
> > We
> > aren't making any more resources, we can't create more land (but are
> > losing it to sea level rising) but we can stop breeding. Start by
> > taxing breeders at the same rate of nonbreeders, no subsidies, no
> > programs to help only people with children. Maybe demand that
> > breeders post a bond before they can raise a child. Give double SS
> > benefits to people who didn't breed, and cut SS to those who raised
> > children at taxpayer expense who didn't produce any good or cost
> > society anything outside of education.
>
> With your ideas, the Japanese may go to extinction earlier than the
> 3011 date given the estimates by a group of population researchers at
> Tohoku University. Here is a "doomsday" clock they have provided:
>
> http://mega.econ.tohoku.ac.jp/Children/index_en.jsp
>
> You may need to click on "English" to read it.
>
> Peter Nyikos
PoPo fauxNy, the fact is every species goes extinct. And being
> Note how we aren't even down to $200,000, which I already classify as
> "rich". Even regional CEOs sometimes get that much or more:
>
> Planned Parenthood of the Great Northwest
> 2001 E Madison Seattle, Washington 98122
> P: 206-328-7734
> F: 206-328-7522
> CEO: Chris Charbonneau
> Base Compensation: $259,405
>
> > We
> > aren't making any more resources, we can't create more land (but are
> > losing it to sea level rising) but we can stop breeding. Start by
> > taxing breeders at the same rate of nonbreeders, no subsidies, no
> > programs to help only people with children. Maybe demand that
> > breeders post a bond before they can raise a child. Give double SS
> > benefits to people who didn't breed, and cut SS to those who raised
> > children at taxpayer expense who didn't produce any good or cost
> > society anything outside of education.
>
> With your ideas, the Japanese may go to extinction earlier than the
> 3011 date given the estimates by a group of population researchers at
> Tohoku University. Here is a "doomsday" clock they have provided:
>
> http://mega.econ.tohoku.ac.jp/Children/index_en.jsp
>
> You may need to click on "English" to read it.
>
> Peter Nyikos
Japanese does not mean you are a separate species. BTW, the fallout
from Fukushima may well make most of Japan uninhabitable sooner than
overpopulation, pollution, and rising sea levels kills off the rest of
Carcinoma Sapiens.
elizabeth
May 20, 2012, 7:09:47 AM5/20/12
to
On May 18, 2:54 pm, pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> Note how we aren't even down to $200,000, which I already classify as
> "rich". Even regional CEOs sometimes get that much or more:
>
> Planned Parenthood of the Great Northwest
> 2001 E Madison Seattle, Washington 98122
> P: 206-328-7734
> F: 206-328-7522
> CEO: Chris Charbonneau
> Base Compensation: $259,405
>
> > We
> > aren't making any more resources, we can't create more land (but are
> > losing it to sea level rising) but we can stop breeding. Start by
> > taxing breeders at the same rate of nonbreeders, no subsidies, no
> > programs to help only people with children. Maybe demand that
> > breeders post a bond before they can raise a child. Give double SS
> > benefits to people who didn't breed, and cut SS to those who raised
> > children at taxpayer expense who didn't produce any good or cost
> > society anything outside of education.
>
> With your ideas, the Japanese may go to extinction earlier than the
> 3011 date given the estimates by a group of population researchers at
> Tohoku University. Here is a "doomsday" clock they have provided:
>
> http://mega.econ.tohoku.ac.jp/Children/index_en.jsp
>
> You may need to click on "English" to read it.
>
> Peter Nyikos
btw., popo. I haven't had a car in over 2 decades. If YOU did as much
> Note how we aren't even down to $200,000, which I already classify as
> "rich". Even regional CEOs sometimes get that much or more:
>
> Planned Parenthood of the Great Northwest
> 2001 E Madison Seattle, Washington 98122
> P: 206-328-7734
> F: 206-328-7522
> CEO: Chris Charbonneau
> Base Compensation: $259,405
>
> > We
> > aren't making any more resources, we can't create more land (but are
> > losing it to sea level rising) but we can stop breeding. Start by
> > taxing breeders at the same rate of nonbreeders, no subsidies, no
> > programs to help only people with children. Maybe demand that
> > breeders post a bond before they can raise a child. Give double SS
> > benefits to people who didn't breed, and cut SS to those who raised
> > children at taxpayer expense who didn't produce any good or cost
> > society anything outside of education.
>
> With your ideas, the Japanese may go to extinction earlier than the
> 3011 date given the estimates by a group of population researchers at
> Tohoku University. Here is a "doomsday" clock they have provided:
>
> http://mega.econ.tohoku.ac.jp/Children/index_en.jsp
>
> You may need to click on "English" to read it.
>
> Peter Nyikos
as I already do, to decrease your "carbon footprint" the world
wouldn't be as fucked up as it is.
elizabeth
May 20, 2012, 7:10:03 AM5/20/12
to
On May 18, 2:54 pm, pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> Note how we aren't even down to $200,000, which I already classify as
> "rich". Even regional CEOs sometimes get that much or more:
>
> Planned Parenthood of the Great Northwest
> 2001 E Madison Seattle, Washington 98122
> P: 206-328-7734
> F: 206-328-7522
> CEO: Chris Charbonneau
> Base Compensation: $259,405
>
> > We
> > aren't making any more resources, we can't create more land (but are
> > losing it to sea level rising) but we can stop breeding. Start by
> > taxing breeders at the same rate of nonbreeders, no subsidies, no
> > programs to help only people with children. Maybe demand that
> > breeders post a bond before they can raise a child. Give double SS
> > benefits to people who didn't breed, and cut SS to those who raised
> > children at taxpayer expense who didn't produce any good or cost
> > society anything outside of education.
>
> With your ideas, the Japanese may go to extinction earlier than the
> 3011 date given the estimates by a group of population researchers at
> Tohoku University. Here is a "doomsday" clock they have provided:
>
> http://mega.econ.tohoku.ac.jp/Children/index_en.jsp
>
> You may need to click on "English" to read it.
>
> Peter Nyikos
> Note how we aren't even down to $200,000, which I already classify as
> "rich". Even regional CEOs sometimes get that much or more:
>
> Planned Parenthood of the Great Northwest
> 2001 E Madison Seattle, Washington 98122
> P: 206-328-7734
> F: 206-328-7522
> CEO: Chris Charbonneau
> Base Compensation: $259,405
>
> > We
> > aren't making any more resources, we can't create more land (but are
> > losing it to sea level rising) but we can stop breeding. Start by
> > taxing breeders at the same rate of nonbreeders, no subsidies, no
> > programs to help only people with children. Maybe demand that
> > breeders post a bond before they can raise a child. Give double SS
> > benefits to people who didn't breed, and cut SS to those who raised
> > children at taxpayer expense who didn't produce any good or cost
> > society anything outside of education.
>
> With your ideas, the Japanese may go to extinction earlier than the
> 3011 date given the estimates by a group of population researchers at
> Tohoku University. Here is a "doomsday" clock they have provided:
>
> http://mega.econ.tohoku.ac.jp/Children/index_en.jsp
>
> You may need to click on "English" to read it.
>
> Peter Nyikos
Silen...@hotmail.com
May 20, 2012, 4:08:59 PM5/20/12
to
On Fri, 18 May 2012 14:54:12 -0700 (PDT), pnyikos
<nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>On May 12, 2:56�pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 10, 4:19�pm, "dd...@bellsouth.net" <dd...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Why aren't 1 million and a 1/2 babies per year placed for adoption?
>>
>> Uh, because there aren't that many people willing to adopt.
>
>That's not the main reason; the main reason is that abortions and the
>loss of stigma of single motherhood have seriously depleted the pool
>of babies available for adoption.
>
>By the way, I have read somewhere that half of abortions are due to
>contraception failure. Can either of you two women confirm this?
>
>>�And since
>> we're overpopulated,
>
>Who is "we", and how do you determine whether a country is
>overpopulated? India is becoming more prosperous, not less.
>
>Japan is facing a serious population "implosion"; so is Europe. See
>url at end for Japan.
>
>> women who know they can't raise a child, or
>> should know they can't should be directed to abortions, because we
>> can't afford to take care of the overpopulated world we have,.
>
>"Can't afford" = "forced to buy used cars all the time"? You liberals
>have strange ideas on what is ''poor" and what is "rich"-- I'm having
>an extended debate with Silent O on this matter; he called $353,819
>per year "practically poverty level".
Remember what I wrote about being a disingenuous lying rightard
<nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>On May 12, 2:56�pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 10, 4:19�pm, "dd...@bellsouth.net" <dd...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Why aren't 1 million and a 1/2 babies per year placed for adoption?
>>
>> Uh, because there aren't that many people willing to adopt.
>
>That's not the main reason; the main reason is that abortions and the
>loss of stigma of single motherhood have seriously depleted the pool
>of babies available for adoption.
>
>By the way, I have read somewhere that half of abortions are due to
>contraception failure. Can either of you two women confirm this?
>
>>�And since
>> we're overpopulated,
>
>Who is "we", and how do you determine whether a country is
>overpopulated? India is becoming more prosperous, not less.
>
>Japan is facing a serious population "implosion"; so is Europe. See
>url at end for Japan.
>
>> women who know they can't raise a child, or
>> should know they can't should be directed to abortions, because we
>> can't afford to take care of the overpopulated world we have,.
>
>"Can't afford" = "forced to buy used cars all the time"? You liberals
>have strange ideas on what is ''poor" and what is "rich"-- I'm having
>an extended debate with Silent O on this matter; he called $353,819
>per year "practically poverty level".
asshole?
Here's what I really wrote in response you your little lists of the
earnings of PP officials:
"Those are practically poverty wages.
I know this as an absolute fact.
I hear all about it from your fellow rightards on FOX every time any
Democrat proposes raising taxes high wage earners.
"Two-hundred thousand a year???" They exclaim in horrified disbelief.
"You think that is rich???"."
So, rightard...
Are you stupid or a liar?
Because those are the only alternatives when you present what I wrote
as being serious.
Heh heh...
Lying racist rightard socialists...
Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.
Dino
May 21, 2012, 1:52:50 PM5/21/12
to
nut!!!
Hey, I'm all for respecting our environment. But I am not an extremist
wacko like you who expect people to give up their cars.
Do you still ride a broom?
elizabeth
May 21, 2012, 4:05:11 PM5/21/12
to
> Oh my...why doesn't this surprise me...a hippy wacko environmental
> nut!!!
>
> Hey, I'm all for respecting our environment. But I am not an extremist
> wacko like you who expect people to give up their cars.
stop doing what got us in this mess. Just saying that your pal fauxNy
brought up the point, and the point is, I have a small carbon
footprint, because that is my choice. You're the one who wants
welfare for car users, to keep the free market out of gasoline, so
that fat, lazy Americans continue to drive everywhere. Good luck
trying to survive if anything happens to your car ... hehehehe ...
> Do you still ride a broom?
dd...@bellsouth.net
May 21, 2012, 4:24:18 PM5/21/12
to
On May 18, 5:31 pm, pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On May 10, 7:19 pm, "dd...@bellsouth.net" <dd...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > People who oppose legal abortion often say, "There's adoption." There
> > are bad aspects to adoption. Adoptees are 2-3% of the population and
> > 16% of serial murderers.
>
> Huh??? where do you get this statistic, Denise?
>
> > They are also 15 times more likely than other
> > people to kill 1 or both of their parents.
>
> Documentation?
(Denise) http://crimemagazine.com/adoption-forensics-connection-between-adoption-and-murder
> On May 10, 7:19 pm, "dd...@bellsouth.net" <dd...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > People who oppose legal abortion often say, "There's adoption." There
> > are bad aspects to adoption. Adoptees are 2-3% of the population and
> > 16% of serial murderers.
>
> Huh??? where do you get this statistic, Denise?
>
> > They are also 15 times more likely than other
> > people to kill 1 or both of their parents.
>
> Documentation?
"The Forensics of Adoption"
dd...@bellsouth.net
May 21, 2012, 5:35:35 PM5/21/12
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On May 18, 5:31 pm, pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
pointed out that there is a very strong statistical link between
serial murder and adoption as well as between parricide and adoption,
no one has proposed outlawing this practice. It is available and has
always been available.
Thus, there is a puzzle to "problem pregnancies." Should a girl or
woman realize after giving birth that she does not wish to raise the
baby -- or is unable to raise the baby -- she can place it for
adoption.
Yet there is still panic at unplanned pregnancies.
There is abortion.
As I wrote, girls and women could think, "If I don't want the baby,
I'll place it for adoption."
Yet they abort.
Why is having babies and placing for adoption so unpopular? (Yes,
this unpopularity is associated with the relative rarity of certain
types of murder but that's not the point.)
Is it all a matter of advertising?
It seems to me that most people have heard of adoption.
The_Echo_Chamber
May 21, 2012, 7:22:14 PM5/21/12
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(Note, Bobby's wife is bigger than Patrick's wife was)
"I am not interested in you and Whale patty."
- Osprey referring to Patrick Humphrey and his wife in
<o5mdnWE7v_p...@comcast.com>
"Maybe you and Whale should get away from that sick perverted stuff"
- Osprey referring to Patrick Humphrey and his wife in
<_PudnRGGZfw...@comcast.com>
"I wonder if they have to warn the community about him, where ever he
and whale goes?"
- Osprey referring to Patrick Humphrey and his wife in
<5YWdnT9Ahbq...@comcast.com>
Or, do you still think she's not a real woman since she had an
abortion?
"If you don't want to be a woman and accept the natural laws that come
with being a woman and being a mother,
then you shouldn't be a mother at all.
Real women, understand the risks involved and real women decide to be
mothers. Not forced-killers.
Real women are not afraid. Real women do not need excuses to kill.
Real women stand up to the challenge
and give life. Your mother gave life to you. She made those
sacrifices. She did not choose to kill you.
You, are a coward.
You, are not a "real" woman."
- Bobby posting as Dino in
<b570123b-69a7-4d3a...@k6g2000vbz.googlegroups.com>
elizabeth
May 21, 2012, 9:06:12 PM5/21/12
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>
> "Maybe you and Whale should get away from that sick perverted stuff"
> - Osprey referring to Patrick Humphrey and his wife in
> <_PudnRGGZfwi39LcRVn...@comcast.com>
> "Maybe you and Whale should get away from that sick perverted stuff"
> - Osprey referring to Patrick Humphrey and his wife in
>
> "I wonder if they have to warn the community about him, where ever he
> and whale goes?"
> - Osprey referring to Patrick Humphrey and his wife in
> <5YWdnT9Ahbq3sc3cRVn...@comcast.com>
> "I wonder if they have to warn the community about him, where ever he
> and whale goes?"
> - Osprey referring to Patrick Humphrey and his wife in
>
> Or, do you still think she's not a real woman since she had an
> abortion?
>
> "If you don't want to be a woman and accept the natural laws that come
> with being a woman and being a mother,
> then you shouldn't be a mother at all.
> Real women, understand the risks involved and real women decide to be
> mothers. Not forced-killers.
> Real women are not afraid. Real women do not need excuses to kill.
> Real women stand up to the challenge
> and give life. Your mother gave life to you. She made those
> sacrifices. She did not choose to kill you.
>
> You, are a coward.
> You, are not a "real" woman."
> - Bobby posting as Dino in
> <b570123b-69a7-4d3a-83b2-05cd5c21a...@k6g2000vbz.googlegroups.com>
> Or, do you still think she's not a real woman since she had an
> abortion?
>
> "If you don't want to be a woman and accept the natural laws that come
> with being a woman and being a mother,
> then you shouldn't be a mother at all.
> Real women, understand the risks involved and real women decide to be
> mothers. Not forced-killers.
> Real women are not afraid. Real women do not need excuses to kill.
> Real women stand up to the challenge
> and give life. Your mother gave life to you. She made those
> sacrifices. She did not choose to kill you.
>
> You, are a coward.
> You, are not a "real" woman."
> - Bobby posting as Dino in
I'm a Jungian (live freud die jung) and I'm into archetypes. It
should be noted that of the goddesses, many of them were in fact child
free, most notably, Artemis, Athena, Hecate, Hestia ... and let's
face it, Hera, as a mother, was abusive . .. she abandoned her son
Vulcan, arguably the most useful and least troublesome of that
lot . ..
james g. keegan jr.
May 21, 2012, 10:12:18 PM5/21/12
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In article
<51ef5965-6500-4cf2...@n16g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
each time i read bobby's true feelings regarding women, i get sick.
<51ef5965-6500-4cf2...@n16g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
elizabeth
May 21, 2012, 11:02:48 PM5/21/12
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go through the bother and harm of pregnancy and childbirth WHEN THERE
ARE ALREADY FAR MORE CHILDREN ALIVE THAN THE WORLD CAN
SUPPORT?????????????
The reason that so many adoptees end up badly is because the sort of
girl or woman who births a baby she obviously is unfit to rear tends
to have a lot of problems herself, and we know now that intelligence
and certain personality traits are heritable.
What the fuck is your point, anyway? You point out that adoptees turn
out badly and yet seem to think that it's preferable to abortion.
That makes no sense at all, even for a lackwit like you.
elizabeth
May 22, 2012, 12:41:17 AM5/22/12
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matters, why on earth should they get involved with the various
government agencies that already handle adoption?
That would be like, say, having a math professor grade English essays,
don't you think?>
Or ~don't~ you?
>
> Peter Nyikos
Dino
May 22, 2012, 12:40:56 AM5/22/12
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track.
>
> > Oh my...why doesn't this surprise me...a hippy wacko environmental
> > nut!!!
>
> > Hey, I'm all for respecting our environment. But I am not an extremist
> > wacko like you who expect people to give up their cars.
>
> I don't expect fat, lazy, greedy, stupid, selfish American idiots to
> stop doing what got us in this mess.
Just saying that your pal fauxNy
> brought up the point, and the point is, I have a small carbon
> footprint, because that is my choice.
> You're the one who wants
> welfare for car users,
> to keep the free market out of gasoline,
>so
> that fat, lazy Americans continue to drive everywhere. Good luck
> trying to survive if anything happens to your car ... hehehehe ...
helping with the environment.
I actually do my fair share, as any responsible American should.
I am just not an extreme nut case like you.
elizabeth
May 22, 2012, 2:41:38 AM5/22/12
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>
> Just saying that your pal fauxNy
>
> > brought up the point, and the point is, I have a small carbon
> > footprint, because that is my choice.
>
> What ever
> > You're the one who wants
> > welfare for car users,
>
> That's a lie
it that there are so few alternatives to POVs?
> > to keep the free market out of gasoline,
>
> That's a lie
lie is why you don't immediately kill your entire family and yourself,
hey, go with it.
> >so
> > that fat, lazy Americans continue to drive everywhere. Good luck
> > trying to survive if anything happens to your car ... hehehehe ...
>
> Hehehehe....you have no idea what I do as far as my contribution to
> helping with the environment.
> I actually do my fair share, as any responsible American should.
> I am just not an extreme nut case like you.
emotional stability by projecting a real terror of insanity on your
perceived enemies.
Dino
May 22, 2012, 6:58:09 AM5/22/12
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>
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> > Just saying that your pal fauxNy
>
> > > brought up the point, and the point is, I have a small carbon
> > > footprint, because that is my choice.
>
> > What ever
>
> Yes, whatever. So we know you don't have a point.
It's intentional disrespect towards you.
>
> > > You're the one who wants
> > > welfare for car users,
>
> > That's a lie
>
> Nope, you are the one yapping for low gasoline prices. Whose fault is
> it that there are so few alternatives to POVs?
no reason for them hike. The hikes were only because people over
reacted.
And that causes pain to a lot of people who can't afford it.
That's NOT welfare for car users moron!!!
You lied.
>
> > > to keep the free market out of gasoline,
>
> > That's a lie
>
> YEah, everyone lies about everything, except you, Heishman.
>If that
> lie is why you don't immediately kill your entire family and yourself,
> hey, go with it.
>
> > >so
> > > that fat, lazy Americans continue to drive everywhere. Good luck
> > > trying to survive if anything happens to your car ... hehehehe ...
>
> > Hehehehe....you have no idea what I do as far as my contribution to
> > helping with the environment.
>
> You won't even admit who you are.
>
> > I actually do my fair share, as any responsible American should.
>
> Define your terms, and prove you do anything at all.
>
> > I am just not an extreme nut case like you.
>
You are an extreme nut case!
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elizabeth
May 23, 2012, 12:26:23 AM5/23/12
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On May 22, 3:58 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
> On May 22, 2:41 am, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
snip
> On May 22, 2:41 am, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > YEah, everyone lies about everything, except you, Heishman.
>
> Frantes! You're out of your mind and too obsessed.
> >
> > Define your terms, and prove you do anything at all.
>
> Prove you are not a wacko.
>
That would be a logical impossibility, since a negative cannot be
>
> Prove you are not a wacko.
>
proven.
>
> > > I am just not an extreme nut case like you.
>
> > And once more, ...
>
> You are an extreme nut case!
Define your terms and prove it.
> > > I am just not an extreme nut case like you.
>
> > And once more, ...
>
> You are an extreme nut case!
Dino
May 23, 2012, 1:11:36 AM5/23/12
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On May 23, 12:26 am, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 22, 3:58 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:> On May 22, 2:41 am, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> snip
>
> > > YEah, everyone lies about everything, except you, Heishman.
>
> > Frantes! You're out of your mind and too obsessed.
>
> > > Define your terms, and prove you do anything at all.
>
> > Prove you are not a wacko.
>
> That ....
> On May 22, 3:58 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:> On May 22, 2:41 am, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> snip
>
> > > YEah, everyone lies about everything, except you, Heishman.
>
> > Frantes! You're out of your mind and too obsessed.
>
> > > Define your terms, and prove you do anything at all.
>
> > Prove you are not a wacko.
>
psssch
Stop your whining!!!
elizabeth
May 23, 2012, 9:14:31 AM5/23/12
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The only whining you hear is your own, Heishman
Now, care to define your terms and actually prove any of your
allegations?
And do 'splain how you expect anyone to prove a fallacy, to wit: A
negative can't be proven.
So, take your own medicine, and prove you are not a child raping
cyberstalking puppy torturing prison bitch.
Dino
May 23, 2012, 10:48:22 AM5/23/12
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On May 23, 9:14 am, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 22, 10:11 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > On May 23, 12:26 am, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On May 22, 3:58 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:> On May 22, 2:41 am, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > snip
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> > > > > YEah, everyone lies about everything, except you, Heishman.
>
> > > > Frantes! You're out of your mind and too obsessed.
>
> > > > > Define your terms, and prove you do anything at all.
>
> > > > Prove you are not a wacko.
>
> > > That ....
>
> > psssch
>
> > Stop your whining!!!
>
> pssst
>
> The only whining you hear...
> On May 22, 10:11 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > On May 23, 12:26 am, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On May 22, 3:58 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:> On May 22, 2:41 am, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > snip
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> > > > > YEah, everyone lies about everything, except you, Heishman.
>
> > > > Frantes! You're out of your mind and too obsessed.
>
> > > > > Define your terms, and prove you do anything at all.
>
> > > > Prove you are not a wacko.
>
> > > That ....
>
> > psssch
>
> > Stop your whining!!!
>
> pssst
>
Is yours.
elizabeth
May 23, 2012, 4:15:01 PM5/23/12
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On May 23, 7:48 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
Stop complaining because you can't jerk off without a tweezer and a
magnifying glass, Robert J. Heishman.
Stop complaining because you can't jerk off without a tweezer and a
magnifying glass, Robert J. Heishman.
Dino
May 24, 2012, 12:24:02 AM5/24/12
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On May 23, 4:15 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 23, 7:48 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> Stop ...
> On May 23, 7:48 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
>
Hallucinating and get the professional help you need.
Wasn't that one of the conditions you had to meet in order to get
released?
elizabeth
May 24, 2012, 12:43:03 AM5/24/12
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On May 23, 9:24 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
> On May 23, 4:15 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On May 23, 7:48 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > Stop ...
Very interesting.
> On May 23, 4:15 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On May 23, 7:48 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > Stop ...
> Hallucinating and get the professional help you need.
> Wasn't that one of the conditions you had to meet in order to get
> released?
proof I was ever released from any facility of any kind, either penal,
or otherwise?
With proof. Heishman, you should have just killed yourself a long
time ago.
Dino
May 24, 2012, 7:09:47 AM5/24/12
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On May 24, 12:43 am, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 23, 9:24 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > On May 23, 4:15 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On May 23, 7:48 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > Stop ...
>
> Very interesting.
>
> > Hallucinating and get the professional help you need.
> > Wasn't that one of the conditions you had to meet in order to get
> > released?
>
> Be specific. ...
> On May 23, 9:24 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > On May 23, 4:15 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On May 23, 7:48 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > Stop ...
>
> Very interesting.
>
> > Hallucinating and get the professional help you need.
> > Wasn't that one of the conditions you had to meet in order to get
> > released?
>
I'm specific enough. You are a NUT CASE!!!!
elizabeth
May 24, 2012, 7:16:47 AM5/24/12
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Just kill yourself, Heishman. Can't you do one good deed for the
world?
Dino
May 24, 2012, 7:55:11 AM5/24/12
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On May 24, 7:16 am, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 24, 4:09 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > On May 24, 12:43 am, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On May 23, 9:24 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On May 23, 4:15 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On May 23, 7:48 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > Stop ...
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> > > Very interesting.
>
> > > > Hallucinating and get the professional help you need.
> > > > Wasn't that one of the conditions you had to meet in order to get
> > > > released?
>
> > > Be specific. ...
>
> > I'm specific enough. You are a NUT CASE!!!!
>
> So....
> On May 24, 4:09 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > On May 24, 12:43 am, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On May 23, 9:24 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On May 23, 4:15 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On May 23, 7:48 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > Stop ...
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> > > Very interesting.
>
> > > > Hallucinating and get the professional help you need.
> > > > Wasn't that one of the conditions you had to meet in order to get
> > > > released?
>
> > > Be specific. ...
>
> > I'm specific enough. You are a NUT CASE!!!!
>
You are a mentally unstable person in serious need of help.
elizabeth
May 24, 2012, 8:06:35 AM5/24/12
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In fact, that is the sort of thing only someone SERIOUSLY unbalanced
would assert.
So, since you can't stop from proving YOU are the one needing help
maybe you might want to consider ceasing to prove you really should
kill yourself, for the good of the nation, society, the species, and
god. And you provided the proof yourself of your own mental state.
If you weren't so daft you would have stopped proving yourself to be
so unstable by posting the same shit over and over again.
And you wonder why no one in the real world takes your complaints
about me and others in the ng seriously? And why you got smacked down
by the DoC?
Dino
May 24, 2012, 10:46:49 AM5/24/12
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On May 24, 8:06 am, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 24, 4:55 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > On May 24, 7:16 am, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On May 24, 4:09 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On May 24, 12:43 am, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On May 23, 9:24 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On May 23, 4:15 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On May 23, 7:48 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > Stop ...
>
> > > > > Very interesting.
>
> > > > > > Hallucinating and get the professional help you need.
> > > > > > Wasn't that one of the conditions you had to meet in order to get
> > > > > > released?
>
> > > > > Be specific. ...
>
> > > > I'm specific enough. You are a NUT CASE!!!!
>
> > > So....
>
> > You are a mentally unstable person in serious need of help.
>
> Prove....
> On May 24, 4:55 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On May 24, 12:43 am, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On May 23, 9:24 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On May 23, 4:15 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On May 23, 7:48 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > Stop ...
>
> > > > > Very interesting.
>
> > > > > > Hallucinating and get the professional help you need.
> > > > > > Wasn't that one of the conditions you had to meet in order to get
> > > > > > released?
>
> > > > > Be specific. ...
>
> > > > I'm specific enough. You are a NUT CASE!!!!
>
> > > So....
>
> > You are a mentally unstable person in serious need of help.
>
You're not mentally unstable.
elizabeth
May 24, 2012, 1:23:25 PM5/24/12
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unstable as you appear to be? Prove your insistance that everyone
else is mentally unstable doesn't prove your mental instability,.
Heishman!
Dino
May 24, 2012, 1:35:08 PM5/24/12
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On May 24, 1:23 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 24, 7:46 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > On May 24, 8:06 am, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On May 24, 4:55 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On May 24, 7:16 am, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On May 24, 4:09 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On May 24, 12:43 am, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On May 23, 9:24 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > On May 23, 4:15 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > On May 23, 7:48 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > Stop ...
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> > > > > > > Very interesting.
>
> > > > > > > > Hallucinating and get the professional help you need.
> > > > > > > > Wasn't that one of the conditions you had to meet in order to get
> > > > > > > > released?
>
> > > > > > > Be specific. ...
>
> > > > > > I'm specific enough. You are a NUT CASE!!!!
>
> > > > > So....
>
> > > > You are a mentally unstable person in serious need of help.
>
> > > Prove....
>
> > You're not mentally unstable.
>
> Can't prove a negative,
Ah, so that's the answer when you make a claim and ask someone to
> On May 24, 7:46 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > On May 24, 8:06 am, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On May 24, 4:55 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On May 24, 7:16 am, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On May 24, 4:09 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On May 24, 12:43 am, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On May 23, 9:24 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > On May 23, 4:15 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > On May 23, 7:48 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > Stop ...
>
> > > > > > > Very interesting.
>
> > > > > > > > Hallucinating and get the professional help you need.
> > > > > > > > Wasn't that one of the conditions you had to meet in order to get
> > > > > > > > released?
>
> > > > > > > Be specific. ...
>
> > > > > > I'm specific enough. You are a NUT CASE!!!!
>
> > > > > So....
>
> > > > You are a mentally unstable person in serious need of help.
>
> > > Prove....
>
> > You're not mentally unstable.
>
> Can't prove a negative,
prove the opposite.
Gotcha! Your own words can come back on you.
Idiot!!!
No wonder you were ordered psychiatric care.
Dino
May 24, 2012, 1:59:32 PM5/24/12
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On May 24, 8:06 am, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > Hallucinating and get the professional help you need.
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> > > > I'm specific enough. You are a NUT CASE!!!!
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> And why you got smacked down
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What smack down are you talking about?
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elizabeth
May 25, 2012, 12:42:16 AM5/25/12
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elizabeth
May 25, 2012, 12:43:46 AM5/25/12
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And I've been schooling you about the fallacy of trying to prove a
negative for some time, Heishman.
Just kill yourself, can't you do a single good thing with your
miserable life?
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Dino
May 25, 2012, 12:48:08 AM5/25/12
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I order you to get psychiatric care.
There..proof. Now, get some before you do some real damage to someone
else, besides yourself.
Dino
May 25, 2012, 1:06:26 AM5/25/12
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Good sign, you recognize it. Now maybe you can get the help you badly
need.
elizabeth
May 25, 2012, 1:17:14 AM5/25/12
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yourself with this.
> > Prove I was "ordered psychiatric care",,,
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> I order you to get psychiatric care.
"cyberstalking" me, that sort of statement can really prove my points
about you. You do realize that sort of thing can get you labeled as
someone who really has some major issues, at the very least?
Thank you for proving me right about you!
> There..proof. Now, get some before you do some real damage to someone
> else, besides yourself.
"order" anyone you've never met to get any sort of Tx .. .but it may
indicate you should perhaps honor your original promise to leave the
ng forever.
You've posted some really odd stuff, but this proves a lot of very
unflattering things about YOU, Robert J. Heishman.
elizabeth
May 25, 2012, 1:17:57 AM5/25/12
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On May 24, 10:06 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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Just kill yourself, Robert J. Heishman. It's the least you can do.
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Dino
May 25, 2012, 6:45:28 AM5/25/12
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Frantes is still showing OCD, hallucination, and irrational thoughts.
Get some help!!!
Dino
May 25, 2012, 6:45:53 AM5/25/12
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elizabeth
May 25, 2012, 11:09:17 AM5/25/12
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This is why you got shitcanned from the DoC, Heishman. It's insane of
you to insist you can tell my mental state,
elizabeth
May 25, 2012, 11:09:59 AM5/25/12
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Dino
May 25, 2012, 3:49:30 PM5/25/12
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Is this a desperate cry for some attention?
Maybe this is why you had to do time, Frantes.
james g. keegan jr.
May 27, 2012, 4:10:23 AM5/27/12
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In article
<664c2e59-db18-4bce...@i19g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
oh my, when bobby heishman begins to wildly project like this, it
usually signifies yet another posting vacation.
I wonder if he'll promise to leave the net forever again.
<664c2e59-db18-4bce...@i19g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
usually signifies yet another posting vacation.
I wonder if he'll promise to leave the net forever again.
elizabeth
May 27, 2012, 5:05:38 AM5/27/12
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On May 27, 1:10 am, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> <664c2e59-db18-4bce-bfa8-31cf77e75...@i19g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
to keep on denying his identity.
> In article
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> Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > Get some help!!!
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> oh my, when bobby heishman begins to wildly project like this, it
> usually signifies yet another posting vacation.
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> I wonder if he'll promise to leave the net forever again.
Yes, he's really gone over the top recently ... so flustered he forgot
> Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> oh my, when bobby heishman begins to wildly project like this, it
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> I wonder if he'll promise to leave the net forever again.
to keep on denying his identity.
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