Also see J J Goldberg's "Jewish Power", pp. 41-42.
Written by By Rabbi Bernard Barsky
"... Notwithstanding these examples, the only explicit legal text
about the
killing of a fetus occurs in Exodus 21:22-25:
"When men strive together and hurt a woman with child, so that there
is a
miscarriage, but if there be no harm (i.e., to the woman herself), the
one
who hurt her shall be fined, according as the woman's husband shall
lay upon
him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. If there be harm (i.e.,
to
the woman herself), then you shall give a life for a life, an eye for
an
eye, a tooth for a tooth, a hand for a hand, a foot for a foot."
In this text, a clear distinction is made between killing the woman,
where
the punishment is "life for life," and killing the fetus, where the
punishment is a fine laid upon the offender by the woman's husband.
And so
our starting point in Jewish law is this distinction between the life
of the
mother and the life of her fetus.
It is an interesting historical fact that this particular verse, so
crucial
to the whole discussion, was mistranslated in the ancient Greek
version of
the Torah used by the Jews of Alexandria and later made the basis for
the
Christian Church's arguments. The Hebrew word for "harm," ason, was
inexplicably translated as "form" in the Greek text, giving us the
verse,
"but if there be no form, the one who hurt her shall be fined.but if
there
be form, then you shall give life for life." In other words, a fetus
which
has taken on discernible human form is given the legal status of a
person,
and its destruction is punishable by death.
The Jewish distinction (rooted in the original Hebrew text) between
the life
of the mother and the life of the child is emphasized in a striking
text of
the Mishnah (Ohalot 7:6):
"If a woman has difficulty in childbirth, the embryo within her should
be
dismembered limb by limb, because her life takes precedence over its
life.
Once its head or its greater part has emerged, it may not be touched,
for we
do not set aside one life for another."
This text seems especially remarkable because it refers to a procedure
quite
like what today is called "partial-birth abortion," and which is
viewed with
especial horror by abortion opponents. Even if one could be
sympathetic
about a first-trimester abortion when the embryo is still barely
formed, the
killing of a full-term fetus shortly before its birth seems
abominable. And
yet this is precisely the gory example which the Mishnah uses to
clarify its
position. As long as the fetus is still enclosed within the mother, it
is in
some sense a "limb" of the mother, and if the hard choice must be made
between the life of the mother and the life of the fetus, the life of
the
mother takes precedence. However highly the fetus is regarded and
however
fully it has formed, it does not pass the threshold where it can be
regarded
as a "person" with equal legal standing to the mother until its head
or the
greater part of its body has emerged from her womb. ...". from "Jewish
Perspective on Abortion",JEWISHDAYTON.ORG.
"Abortion-Jewish law not only permits, but in some circumstances
requires
abortion.
Where the mother's life is in jeopardy because of the unborn child,
abortion
is mandatory.
An unborn child has the status of "potential human life" until the
majority
of the body has emerged from the mother. Potential human life is
valuable,
and may not be terminated casually, but it does not have as much value
as a
life in existence. The Talmud makes no bones about this: it says quite
bluntly that if the fetus threatens the life of the mother, you cut it
up
within her body and remove it limb by limb if necessary, because its
life is
not as valuable as hers. But once the greater part of the body has
emerged,
you cannot take its life to save the mother's, because you cannot
choose
between one human life and another. ..." -jewfaq.org/sex.htm
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