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Nov 22, 2009, 6:44:46 AM11/22/09
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this twat whore fucks greasey, dirty, thieving, lying, shiftless,
no good for nothing goddamned nigger beasts. She's uglier than Hillary Clinton
and three times as dumb. HANG ALL NIGGERS AND SHOOT ALL NIGGER LOVERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FACTS ABOUT NIGGERS THAT NO ONE CAN COUNTER

Niggers have never invented ANYTHING that helped society. Recipes do not count,
neither does inventing things that have already been invented.
http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/inventions/

220 million Whites in the United States
36 Million NIGGERS
40 million hispanics

PERCENT OF CRIME BY RACE

Whites do 33% of all crime
Niggers do 46% of all crime
Hispanics do 18% of all crime

Now, explain how the white man is forcing the NIGGERS to do most of the crime?
Niggers are 23.4 times more likely to commit crime than a WHITE man is.
Niggers are criminal shit.

Is it because niggers are poor that niggers are such criminal shit beasts?

38 million Whites live under the poverty line
9 million Hispanics live under the poverty line
8 million NIGGERS live under the poverty line

Since there are more poor whites than there are NIGGERS TOTAL, then explain why
whites aren't doing more crime than NIGGERS. You can't can you? because niggers
are CRIMINAL SHIT BEASTS AND YOU DAMN WELL KNOW IT!

Single Parent homes
White 29%
Hispanic 43%
NIGGERS 76%

Pays Child Suppost
White 86%
Hispanic 59%
Niggers 25%

Now, is it reasonable to assume that niggers make babies but do not pay for them
or marry the woman they impregnate? It must be niggers being racist against themselves
by being criminal shit beasts. That must be it.

You nigger lovers are ruining this country. HANG ALL NIGGERS! DON'T VOTE FOR THEM, HANG THEM!


NIGGERS ARE CRIMINAL SHIT BEASTS!!! PRAISE JESUS!!!!! FLUSH THE NIGGERS!!!!!!

Gwen Bennet

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:33:24 PM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 6:44 am, Anonymous <cri...@ecn.org> wrote:
> this twat whore fucks greasey, dirty, thieving, lying, shiftless,

>

Oh,Osprey...stop it.

james g. keegan jr.

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:44:06 PM11/22/09
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In article <2009112211444...@www.ecn.org>,
Anonymous <cri...@ecn.org> wrote:

> this twat whore fucks greasey, dirty, thieving, lying, shiftless,
> no good for nothing goddamned nigger beasts.

that's oooopsy's writing style, is it not?

IAAH

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Nov 22, 2009, 2:08:17 PM11/22/09
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Well, it's an idiot's writing style - but Usenet
is full of 'em.

I'm sure it's no coincidence that this particular
idiot is targeting everyone who's gotten up
Fishbreath and Nyikos's nose - but let's face it,
if this is one of those two, it's part of a "Oooh,
look, you accused us with no evidence and that's
LIBEL and you're a bad person" whinefest.

Setting themselves up as victims, in other words,
in the best tradition of the bitchy kiddies glee
club they seem intent on perpetuating.

--
"I do not pretend to be able to prove that there
is no God. I equally cannot
prove that Satan is a fiction. The Christian god
may exist; so may the gods of
Olympus, or of ancient Egypt, or of Babylon. But
no one of these hypotheses is
more probable than any other: they lie outside the
region of even probable
knowledge, and therefore there is no reason to
consider any of them."
Bertrand Russell

George Orwell

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Nov 22, 2009, 7:29:38 AM11/22/09
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this twat whore fucks greasey, dirty, thieving, lying, shiftless,

Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this
non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real
reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an
di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system
Per maggiori informazioni |For more info
https://www.mixmaster.it

Lefty

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Nov 22, 2009, 2:18:22 PM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 2:08 pm, IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
> On 11/22/09 1:44 PM, * james g. keegan jr. wrote:
>
> > In article <20091122114446.5A92C1A7...@www.ecn.org>,

> >  Anonymous <cri...@ecn.org> wrote:
>
> >> this twat whore fucks greasey, dirty, thieving, lying, shiftless,
> >> no good for nothing goddamned nigger beasts.
>
> > that's oooopsy's writing style, is it not?
>
> Well, it's an idiot's writing style - but Usenet
> is full of 'em.
>
> I'm sure it's no coincidence that this particular
> idiot is targeting everyone who's gotten up
> Fishbreath and Nyikos's nose - but let's face it,
> if this is one of those two, it's part of a "Oooh,
> look, you accused us with no evidence and that's
> LIBEL and you're a bad person" whinefest.
>
> Setting themselves up as victims, in other words,
> in the best tradition of the bitchy kiddies glee
> club they seem intent on perpetuating.

This same race-baiting asshole has been hanging around other groups
for some time now, using the name George Orwell, among others. I doubt
it's Osprey or Nyikos since they don't hang at those groups. The troll
saw there was a feud going on here, and decided to fuel it.


james g. keegan jr.

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Nov 22, 2009, 2:18:26 PM11/22/09
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On 2009-11-22 14:08:17 -0500, IAAH <n...@email.exist> said:

> On 11/22/09 1:44 PM, * james g. keegan jr. wrote:
>> In article <2009112211444...@www.ecn.org>,
>> Anonymous <cri...@ecn.org> wrote:
>>
>>> this twat whore fucks greasey, dirty, thieving, lying, shiftless,
>>> no good for nothing goddamned nigger beasts.
>>
>> that's oooopsy's writing style, is it not?
>
> Well, it's an idiot's writing style - but Usenet is full of 'em.
>
> I'm sure it's no coincidence that this particular idiot is targeting
> everyone who's gotten up Fishbreath and Nyikos's nose - but let's face
> it, if this is one of those two, it's part of a "Oooh, look, you
> accused us with no evidence and that's LIBEL and you're a bad person"
> whinefest.
>
> Setting themselves up as victims, in other words, in the best tradition
> of the bitchy kiddies glee club they seem intent on perpetuating.


whoever it is, they reflect the mindset of the type of sleazeball no
one can respect.


--
"You know, I've seen some incredible pussies post to t.a over the
years, but after seeing his webboard shennannigans, I have to say that
Heishman is the pussiest of them all." Matt Pillsbury <m...@seesig.com>
Message-ID: m2oeso5...@seesig.com

IAAH

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Nov 22, 2009, 2:23:17 PM11/22/09
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"George Orwell" also posted (once, as far as I can
tell) from an IP owned by the Delaware Department
of Corrections.

Coincidentally, that's where Osprey works. Let's
just say that I would not be surprised to find out
that he and Nyikos are trying something on, either
posing as these racist assholes or inciting them.

james g. keegan jr.

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Nov 22, 2009, 2:45:49 PM11/22/09
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In article <hec335$k8r$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:

> On 11/22/09 2:18 PM, * Lefty wrote:

> > This same race-baiting asshole has been hanging around other groups
> > for some time now, using the name George Orwell, among others. I doubt
> > it's Osprey or Nyikos since they don't hang at those groups. The troll
> > saw there was a feud going on here, and decided to fuel it.
> >
> "George Orwell" also posted (once, as far as I can
> tell) from an IP owned by the Delaware Department
> of Corrections.
>
> Coincidentally, that's where Osprey works. Let's
> just say that I would not be surprised to find out
> that he and Nyikos are trying something on, either
> posing as these racist assholes or inciting them.


interesting concept. fifteen years ago, the original peter nyikos was
also successful in manipulating the posts of some of the lesser minds in
talk.abortion.

elizabeth

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Nov 22, 2009, 4:15:28 PM11/22/09
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> saw there was a feud going on here, and decided to fuel it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Oh, i'm sure Oopsey had something to do with it, it's his style.

He's borrowed other identities enough.

Ray Fischer

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Nov 22, 2009, 6:04:08 PM11/22/09
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George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
>this twat whore fucks greasey, dirty, thieving, lying, shiftless,

What a fine example of rightard morality you are.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

william mosco

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:21:48 PM11/22/09
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Anonymous wrote:
> this twat whore fucks greasey, dirty, thieving, lying, shiftless,
> no good for nothing goddamned nigger beasts. She's uglier than Hillary Clinton
> and three times as dumb. HANG ALL NIGGERS AND SHOOT ALL NIGGER LOVERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hmm. I might wager this person is actually a liberal.

(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>

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Nov 22, 2009, 10:08:40 PM11/22/09
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On 22 Nov 2009 23:04:08 GMT,
Ray Fischer <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote:
> Submoronic Bigot, BILL TAYLOR (aka "George Orwell") spewed:


>> This twat whore fucks greasey, dirty, thieving, lying, shiftless,

> What a fine example of rightard morality you are.

The unfortunate fate that sometimes befalls anacepahlics.

Nomen Nescio

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Nov 22, 2009, 2:19:27 PM11/22/09
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no good for nothing goddamned nigger beasts. She's uglier than Hillary Clinton
and three times as dumb. HANG ALL NIGGERS AND SHOOT ALL NIGGER LOVERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FACTS ABOUT NIGGERS THAT NO ONE CAN COUNTER

Ray Fischer

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Nov 23, 2009, 12:34:56 AM11/23/09
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Why? Embarassed by the insane hatred that you rightards exhibit?

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

The Chief Instigator

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Nov 23, 2009, 12:42:12 AM11/23/09
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:29:38 +0100 (CET), George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
> this twat whore fucks

Do the other 6.8 billion of us the favor of your suicide, Fake Phony.

--
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www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 2, Houston 1 (OT, November 22)
NEXT GAME: Wednesday, November 25 at Hamilton, 6:05

Lefty

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Nov 23, 2009, 2:03:20 AM11/23/09
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Could be Osprey hijacked the original troll's ID, then, because an
identical Orwell creep has been posting for a long time, but he always
does it with a remailer.

> Coincidentally, that's where Osprey works. Let's
> just say that I would not be surprised to find out
> that he and Nyikos are trying something on, either
> posing as these racist assholes or inciting them.

They might pose as them to get them worked up by the responses, hoping
to gain allies.
Mind you, it's possible that the Orwell troll forged Osprey's work IP
to incite his flamers so he could watch the show Trolls do that.

Lefty

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Nov 23, 2009, 2:11:22 AM11/23/09
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On Nov 22, 2:45 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <hec335$k8...@news.eternal-september.org>,

Wouldn't it be funny if he was forging his supposed ally, Osprey, just
to perpetuate the feud? I've seen it happen. I'd never trust a
stranger who, out of the blue, started obsessively defending me in a
personal dispute and attacking my flamers like Nyikos does for Osprey.
Those are people who feed off of the emotions of others.

Lefty

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Nov 23, 2009, 2:13:22 AM11/23/09
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If so, he should learn to use a remailer 100% of the time when he does
it. Imagine posing as someone else from your work IP. Too funny.

james g. keegan jr.

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:45:53 AM11/23/09
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In article
<1582ee4d-f5b6-432b...@j11g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
Lefty <lefty...@netscape.net> wrote:


the name george orwell has been around newsgroups for a while. all the
posts i have seen came from an anonymous remailer. it might be a troll
playing with osprey and the group.

it's hard to imagine what would motivate anyone, much less an alleged
phd, to start aggressively defending osprey. there is simply no rational
explanation.

Gwen Bennet

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:17:14 AM11/23/09
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This is ridiculous, even for you.

Gwen Bennet

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:18:01 AM11/23/09
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On Nov 22, 7:29 am, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
> this twat whore fucks greasey,

Whether you're the original Orwell troll or Osprey behind it, you're
still retarded.

Gwen Bennet

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:29:03 AM11/23/09
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On Nov 23, 9:45 am, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <1582ee4d-f5b6-432b-bffd-b4edb4f38...@j11g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,

The only type of person who'd defend osprey so vehemently is a poster
that was humiliated into leaving the newsgroup. The ousted loud-mouth,
familiar with the original Peter's posts, did a poor job of
reintroducing itself; and formed an alliance with Osprey, only to get
back at its former adversaries.

Spartakus

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:46:18 AM11/23/09
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"james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  Lefty <leftydr...@netscape.net> wrote:
> > "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:

The Italian anonymizer used by our potty-mouthed friend automatically
assigns names like "George Orwell" and "Nomen Nescio" to posts.
Several different people using that service would have posts under
those names. However, there really aren't that many people who carry
around such toxic levels of animus against both Elizabeth and Gwen. I
can only think of a couple, myself.

Gwen Bennet

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Nov 23, 2009, 11:15:38 AM11/23/09
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There's only one who does it, illiterately.

Gwen Bennet

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Nov 23, 2009, 11:17:36 AM11/23/09
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On Nov 23, 12:42 am, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:29:38 +0100 (CET), George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
> > this twat whore fucks
>
> Do the other 6.8 billion of us the favor of your suicide, Fake Phony.

I don't think it's her. This is the doing of Osprey.

> --
>  Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey  (patr...@io.com) Houston, Texas
>      www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php(TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273

pnyikos

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:08:00 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 22, 2:08 pm, IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
> On 11/22/09 1:44 PM, * james g. keegan jr. wrote:
>
> > In article <20091122114446.5A92C1A7...@www.ecn.org>,
> > Anonymous <cri...@ecn.org> wrote:

The last three symbols before the @ are pto for this despicable
racist.

> >> this twat whore fucks greasey, dirty, thieving, lying, shiftless,
> >> no good for nothing goddamned nigger beasts.
>
> > that's oooopsy's writing style, is it not?

No resemblance, none at all. On the other hand, it is so similar to
the style of "George Orwell" [the one posting from
nob...@mixmaster.it] that I will assume they are the same person until
someone proves otherwise.

By the way, I haven't had the time to check whether there is more than
one person posting under these pseudonyms. My experience with the two
Kate_G's is the source of my caution.

> Well, it's an idiot's writing style - but Usenet
> is full of 'em.
>
> I'm sure it's no coincidence that this particular
> idiot is targeting everyone who's gotten up
> Fishbreath and Nyikos's nose

"everyone"? Has he targeted Galen Hekhuis? Or Tom S.? Or you?

In any event, Internet.Vandals are prime targets for abuse by other
Internet.Vandals. You are (deliberately, I'm sure) falling into the
fallacy of "the enemy of Xs enemy is Xs friend".

This tragic fallacy caused much injustice during and after both world
wars. For instance, after Hitler turned on Stalin, anti-communists
were often smeared as being Nazi sympathizers.

> - but let's face it,

Why face a grotesque lampoon of the truth?

> if this is one of those two, it's part of a "Oooh,
> look, you accused us with no evidence and that's
> LIBEL and you're a bad person"

Of course, I only call it libel if it is false as well as being
unsupported AND the person uttering it not only is NOT giving evidence
but CANNOT give evidence that would stand up in a trial for libel.

>whinefest.

WHINE: an inchoate concept as used on Usenet;
were it made logically consistent and defined
broadly enough to encompass the most influential
uses in talk.abortion, talk.origins and alt.abortion,
it would mean "anything that can be construed,
in however strained a way, as a complaint,"
and hence would encompass much or all
of each of the following:
the Declaration of Independence, the Communist
Manifesto, Mark Antony's funeral oration
in Shakespeare's _Julius Caesar_,
John the Baptist's denunciation of
Herod Antipas, and Jesus's "woe to you, scribes
and Pharisees, hypocrites" rant [more at RANT].

> Setting themselves up as victims, in other words,

The way Gwen Bennet is a victim of alleged threat of being killed by
Osprey, that neither she nor her allies has ever documented?

> in the best tradition of the bitchy kiddies glee
> club they seem intent on perpetuating.

I suppose IAAH will claim that he is only "pointing out Nyikos's
deficiencies" with this misrepresentation.

Peter Nyikos

elizabeth

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:51:44 PM11/23/09
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> Those are people who feed off of the emotions of others.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

I've often thought that Oopsey is actually being impersonated by an
inmate of the DDoC, in order to discredit the prison

elizabeth

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:51:58 PM11/23/09
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> it. Imagine posing as someone else from your work IP. Too funny.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Oopsey is just that stupid.

james g. keegan jr.

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In article
<7dd4f579-7200-4b1d...@y32g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
elizabeth <efra...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I've often thought that Oopsey is actually being impersonated by an
> inmate of the DDoC, in order to discredit the prison


if so, they have been most successful in embarrassing the entire
corrections department

Lefty

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Nov 23, 2009, 11:46:01 PM11/23/09
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Interesting theory. It wouldn't be unheard of.

pnyikos

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:03:52 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 22, 2:23 pm, IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
> On 11/22/09 2:18 PM, * Lefty wrote:
>
>
>

> >> Setting themselves up as victims, in other words,
> >> in the best tradition of the bitchy kiddies glee
> >> club they seem intent on perpetuating.

IAAH still pretends he is not allied with Gwen, Keegan, Spartakus,
Humphrey, Fischer, etc. but trollings like the above speak louder than
these pretences.

> > This same race-baiting asshole has been hanging around other groups
> > for some time now, using the name George Orwell, among others. I doubt
> > it's Osprey or Nyikos since they don't hang at those groups. The troll
> > saw there was a feud going on here, and decided to fuel it.

Finally, a levelheaded participant. Too bad I can't say the same for
you, IAAH.

> "George Orwell" also posted (once, as far as I can
> tell) from an IP owned by the Delaware Department
> of Corrections.

Documentation?

Below, you are battling me even though I hadn't even put in an
appearance on this thread, and with a totally baseless piece of wild
speculation.

> Coincidentally, that's where Osprey works. Let's
> just say that I would not be surprised to find out
> that he and Nyikos are trying something on, either
> posing as these racist assholes or inciting them.

You should be a lot less surprised to find out that Fischer and
Humphrey are doing that kind of thing.

After all, Fischer posted that he doesn't give a shit about women,
while Humphrey posted the following in reply to African-American UC-
Sacramento student Steve Chaney:

Come on, Steve. Let's see how much of a boy you are.
March your fat black ass down here...

["Down here" meant to Rice U., well over a thousand miles away from
Sacramento.]

But of course, if you were to seriously entertain such suspicions, you
would be playing Internet policeman to "everyone" [as you put it in
another thread] and we can't have that, can we? Any sane person would
say, according to you, that what Fischer and Humphrey say is none of
his business.

Peter Nyikos

pnyikos

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:06:32 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 22, 2:45 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <hec335$k8...@news.eternal-september.org>,

You can't give a single example, can you, Energizer Bunny? I don't
mean of people--I'm sure you know who wasn't palsy-walsy with the
Keegan Tweed Ring, including pro-choice feminist Kristen Hansen--I
mean of actual manipulation of others' posts.

Peter Nyikos

IAAH

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:09:30 AM11/24/09
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pnyikos wrote, On 09-11-24 12:03 AM:

> On Nov 22, 2:23 pm, IAAH<n...@email.exist> wrote:
>> On 11/22/09 2:18 PM, * Lefty wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>
>>>> Setting themselves up as victims, in other words,
>>>> in the best tradition of the bitchy kiddies glee
>>>> club they seem intent on perpetuating.
>
> IAAH still pretends he is not allied with Gwen, Keegan, Spartakus,
> Humphrey, Fischer, etc. but trollings like the above speak louder than
> these pretences.
>
>>> This same race-baiting asshole has been hanging around other groups
>>> for some time now, using the name George Orwell, among others. I doubt
>>> it's Osprey or Nyikos since they don't hang at those groups. The troll
>>> saw there was a feud going on here, and decided to fuel it.
>
> Finally, a levelheaded participant. Too bad I can't say the same for
> you, IAAH.

Yes, yes. Get back to me when you can show that religious bigotry or
libel that you keep chattering about, mmmkay?

>
>> "George Orwell" also posted (once, as far as I can
>> tell) from an IP owned by the Delaware Department
>> of Corrections.
>
> Documentation?

http://groups.google.com/group/talk.abortion/browse_frm/thread/cf1bf64e0229c0a6/f7056462ba718d81?q=ip+author:iaah#f7056462ba718d81

>
> Below, you are battling me even though I hadn't even put in an
> appearance on this thread, and with a totally baseless piece of wild
> speculation.
>
>> Coincidentally, that's where Osprey works. Let's
>> just say that I would not be surprised to find out
>> that he and Nyikos are trying something on, either
>> posing as these racist assholes or inciting them.
>
> You should be a lot less surprised to find out that Fischer and
> Humphrey are doing that kind of thing.

Documentation?

>
> After all, Fischer posted that he doesn't give a shit about women,
> while Humphrey posted the following in reply to African-American UC-
> Sacramento student Steve Chaney:
>
> Come on, Steve. Let's see how much of a boy you are.
> March your fat black ass down here...
>
> ["Down here" meant to Rice U., well over a thousand miles away from
> Sacramento.]

And?

>
> But of course, if you were to seriously entertain such suspicions, you
> would be playing Internet policeman to "everyone" [as you put it in
> another thread] and we can't have that, can we? Any sane person would
> say, according to you, that what Fischer and Humphrey say is none of
> his business.

Whose business? Get your pronouns in order.

>
> Peter Nyikos


--
"I do not pretend to be able to prove that there is no God. I equally cannot
prove that Satan is a fiction. The Christian godmay exist; so may the
gods of
Olympus, or of ancient Egypt, or of Babylon. But no one of these
hypotheses is
more probable than any other: they lie outside the region of even probable
knowledge, and therefore there is no reason to consider any of them."
- Bertrand Russell

pnyikos

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:09:57 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 22, 4:15 pm, elizabeth <efran...@hotmail.com> wrote:

You are just showing how obsessed you are with Osprey. That style no
more resembles Osprey's style than Humphrey's "...boy...march your fat
black ass..." style does.

Peter Nyikos

pnyikos

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:16:29 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 22, 6:04 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> George Orwell  <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
>
> >this twat whore fucks greasey, dirty, thieving, lying, shiftless,
>
> What a fine example of rightard morality you are.

I'm pretty sure he's shamelessly amoral, just like you. But thanks
for making Bill Mosco's suspicion look a little more respectable: what
better way for a liberal to discredit conservatives than to post
outrageously racist garbage that people like you instantly assume is
the work of a right-winger?

By the way, did Osprey say "You want to kill all Jews" to this "George
Orwell"?

Peter Nyikos

pnyikos

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:18:43 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 22, 10:08 pm, "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>

" <x...@m.com> wrote:
> On 22 Nov 2009 23:04:08 GMT,
>
> Ray Fischer <rfisc...@sonic.net> wrote:
> >  Submoronic Bigot, BILL TAYLOR (aka "George Orwell") spewed:
> >>     This twat whore fucks greasey, dirty, thieving, lying, shiftless,
> >     What a fine example of rightard morality you are.
>
>      The unfortunate fate that sometimes befalls anacepahlics.

Bill Mosco's suspicions are looking better and better. See my reply
to Fischer of a few minutes ago.

Peter Nyikos

IAAH

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:32:58 AM11/24/09
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pnyikos wrote, On 09-11-24 12:18 AM:

Osprey libels those targeted by these anonymous posts in the period
before they appeared, AND "George Orwell" posts from an IP address owned
by the Delaware Department of Corrections, but now it's more likely that
it's some anonymous "liberal" posting?

Suuure, Nyikos. Be sure to tell us which one of you is the lapdog and
which one the lap, okay? It's hard to tell from here.

pnyikos

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:33:16 AM11/24/09
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He's irritated by the insane hatred you, for one, exhibit towards him,
calling him a rapist in a post where you weren't even alleging you
were using his tactics against him. Since then you've been even more
hateful towards him, lying that his solution to this or that problem
is to kill people.

Peter Nyikos

Ray Fischer

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:34:08 AM11/24/09
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pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>On Nov 22, 2:45�pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In article <hec335$k8...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>
>> �IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
>> > On 11/22/09 2:18 PM, * Lefty wrote:
>> > > This same race-baiting asshole has been hanging around other groups
>> > > for some time now, using the name George Orwell, among others. I doubt
>> > > it's Osprey or Nyikos since they don't hang at those groups. The troll
>> > > saw there was a feud going on here, and decided to fuel it.
>>
>> > "George Orwell" also posted (once, as far as I can
>> > tell) from an IP owned by the Delaware Department
>> > of Corrections.
>>
>> > Coincidentally, that's where Osprey works. Let's
>> > just say that I would not be surprised to find out
>> > that he and Nyikos are trying something on, either
>> > posing as these racist assholes or inciting them.
>>
>> interesting concept. fifteen years ago, the original peter nyikos was
>> also successful in manipulating the posts of some of the lesser minds in
>> talk.abortion.
>
>You can't give a single example, can you, Energizer Bunny?

93% on the irony meter.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Ray Fischer

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:35:14 AM11/24/09
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pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>IAAH still pretends he is not allied with Gwen, Keegan, Spartakus,
>Humphrey, Fischer, etc. but trollings like the above speak louder than
>these pretences.

You can't give a single example, can you, Energizer Bunny?
fauxNy in <3bcfcef1-d68e-49f1...@o13g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>

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Ray Fischer
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Ray Fischer

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:36:20 AM11/24/09
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pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>On Nov 22, 6:04�pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> George Orwell �<nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
>>
>> >this twat whore fucks greasey, dirty, thieving, lying, shiftless,
>>
>> What a fine example of rightard morality you are.
>
>I'm pretty sure he's shamelessly amoral, just like you.

Knock it off, Pee Wee.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

pnyikos

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:38:39 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 23, 12:42 am, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:29:38 +0100 (CET), George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
> > this twat whore fucks
>
> Do the other 6.8 billion of us the favor of your suicide, Fake Phony.

Nice to know that you really use the expression "Fake Phony" to refer
to this outrageous racist, rather than to me.

Have you been laboring under the delusion all this time that I am
"George Orwell"? Think back to your "fat black ass" slur to African-
American Steve Chaney and how I treated it in 1992-1996 before you
reply.

Chaney called you PatricKKK on account of that slur, complete with you
calling him "boy" and signing off with the comment that you were
grateful you are not "a waste of DNA" like Chaney.

Peter Nyikos

Ray Fischer

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:39:22 AM11/24/09
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pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> william mosco �<wm5...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Anonymous wrote:

>> >> this twat whore fucks greasey, dirty, thieving, lying, shiftless,
>> >> no good for nothing goddamned nigger beasts. She's uglier than Hillary Clinton
>> >> and three times as dumb. HANG ALL NIGGERS AND SHOOT ALL NIGGER LOVERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> >Hmm. �I might wager this person is actually a liberal.
>>
>> Why? �Embarassed by the insane hatred that you rightards exhibit?
>
>He's irritated by the insane hatred you, for one, exhibit towards him,

I don't like fascists who reject the Constitution and advocate for
dictatorship.

>calling him a rapist in a post where you weren't even alleging you
>were using his tactics against him.

Except that I never did so, asshole.

But like most rightards you can't help but lie about people.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

The Chief Instigator

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:40:24 AM11/24/09
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On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:03:52 -0800 (PST), Osprey posing as pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Nov 22, 2:23?pm, IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
>> On 11/22/09 2:18 PM, * Lefty wrote:
>>
>
>> >> Setting themselves up as victims, in other words, in the best
>> >> tradition of the bitchy kiddies glee club they seem intent on
>> >> perpetuating.
>
> IAAH still pretends he is not allied with Gwen, Keegan, Spartakus,
> Humphrey, Fischer, etc. but trollings like the above speak louder than
> these pretences.

You still can't troll to save your worthless life, O'Spray.

>> > This same race-baiting asshole has been hanging around other groups
>> > for some time now, using the name George Orwell, among others. I doubt
>> > it's Osprey or Nyikos since they don't hang at those groups. The troll
>> > saw there was a feud going on here, and decided to fuel it.
>
> Finally, a levelheaded participant. Too bad I can't say the same for
> you, IAAH.

Too bad no one who's been badgered by you bothers with giving you the time
of day, Ex-Prison Baybsitter of the Year.

>> "George Orwell" also posted (once, as far as I can tell) from an IP owned
>> by the Delaware Department of Corrections.
>
> Documentation?
>
> Below, you are battling me even though I hadn't even put in an
> appearance on this thread, and with a totally baseless piece of wild
> speculation.
>
>> Coincidentally, that's where Osprey works. Let's just say that I would
>> not be surprised to find out that he and Nyikos are trying something on,
>> either posing as these racist assholes or inciting them.
>
> You should be a lot less surprised to find out that Fischer and
> Humphrey are doing that kind of thing.

BULLSHIT, Osprey. I don't pass myself off as anyone else...and I'll bet
your fifth of a ton of fat on that.

> After all, Fischer posted that he doesn't give a shit about women,
> while Humphrey posted the following in reply to African-American UC-
> Sacramento student Steve Chaney:

Damn, you're clueless, Oopsey. You weren't around when Chaney was going
psycho, and he was nowhere near Sacto. (About 650 kilometers southeast
would be a little more accurate.)

> Come on, Steve. Let's see how much of a boy you are.
> March your fat black ass down here...
>
> ["Down here" meant to Rice U., well over a thousand miles away from
> Sacramento.]

...which he wasn't in at that time.

> But of course, if you were to seriously entertain such suspicions, you
> would be playing Internet policeman to "everyone" [as you put it in
> another thread] and we can't have that, can we? Any sane person would
> say, according to you, that what Fischer and Humphrey say is none of his
> business.
>
> Peter Nyikos

You're not sane, Oopsey. You're doing yeoman's work at establishing that.

--
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www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273

Ray Fischer

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:41:58 AM11/24/09
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pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>On Nov 23, 12:42�am, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:29:38 +0100 (CET), George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
>> > this twat whore fucks
>>
>> Do the other 6.8 billion of us the favor of your suicide, Fake Phony.
>
>Nice to know that you really use the expression "Fake Phony" to refer
>to this outrageous racist, rather than to me.
>
>Have you been laboring under the delusion all this time that I am
>"George Orwell"? Think back to your "fat black ass" slur to African-

Why do you assume that every phony must be you?

Guilty conscience?
Bloated ego?
Stupidity?

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Ray Fischer
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pnyikos

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:46:38 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 23, 2:03 am, Lefty <leftydr...@netscape.net> wrote:

> On Nov 22, 2:23 pm, IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 11/22/09 2:18 PM, * Lefty wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 22, 2:08 pm, IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
> > >> On 11/22/09 1:44 PM, * james g. keegan jr. wrote:
>
> > >>> In article <20091122114446.5A92C1A7...@www.ecn.org>,
> > >>>  Anonymous <cri...@ecn.org> wrote:
> > >>>> this twat whore fucks greasey, dirty, thieving, lying, shiftless,
> > >>>> no good for nothing goddamned nigger beasts.
> > >>> that's oooopsy's writing style, is it not?
> > >> Well, it's an idiot's writing style - but Usenet
> > >> is full of 'em.
>
> > >> I'm sure it's no coincidence that this particular
> > >> idiot is targeting everyone who's gotten up
> > >> Fishbreath and Nyikos's nose - but let's face it,
> > >> if this is one of those two, it's part of a "Oooh,
> > >> look, you accused us with no evidence and that's
> > >> LIBEL and you're a bad person" whinefest.
>
> > >> Setting themselves up as victims, in other words,
> > >> in the best tradition of the bitchy kiddies glee
> > >> club they seem intent on perpetuating.
>
> > > This same race-baiting asshole has been hanging around other groups
> > > for some time now, using the name George Orwell, among others. I doubt
> > > it's Osprey or Nyikos since they don't hang at those groups. The troll
> > > saw there was a feud going on here, and decided to fuel it.
>
> > "George Orwell" also posted (once, as far as I can
> > tell) from an IP owned by the Delaware Department
> > of Corrections.
>
> Could be Osprey hijacked the original troll's ID, then, because an
> identical Orwell creep has been posting for a long time, but he always
> does it with a remailer.

> > Coincidentally, that's where Osprey works. Let's
> > just say that I would not be surprised to find out
> > that he and Nyikos are trying something on, either
> > posing as these racist assholes or inciting them.
>

> They might pose as them

Lefty, IAAH was trolling. I have consistently condemned such racist
garbage as "George Orwell" is spewing. Look at my responses to
various people on this thread, with an open mind.

>to get them worked up by the responses, hoping
> to gain allies.

Perish the thought. Though Orwell may be anti-abortion like "J" I'll
have no truck with him. Look at the follow-ups I've done to "J", and
to "LC" on the subject of "J", if you have any doubts about that.

> Mind you, it's possible that the Orwell troll forged Osprey's work IP
> to incite his flamers so he could watch the show Trolls do that.

An interesting idea. I wonder if IAAH can direct us to the post to
which he is referring; it might reveal something.

Peter Nyikos

IAAH

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:50:43 AM11/24/09
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pnyikos wrote, On 09-11-24 12:46 AM:

No, I wasn't trolling. I wouldn't be surprised at all that Osprey
decided to try this on and you enabled it - especially since he's
already admitted that forging in others' names is okay by him if he's
pissed, and you've already shown that you have no problem with libellous
accusations.

The Chief Instigator

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:55:23 AM11/24/09
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On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:38:39 -0800 (PST), pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Nov 23, 12:42?am, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:29:38 +0100 (CET), George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
>> > this twat whore fucks
>>
>> Do the other 6.8 billion of us the favor of your suicide, Fake Phony.
>
> Nice to know that you really use the expression "Fake Phony" to refer
> to this outrageous racist, rather than to me.

You're a festering fake, indeed. The headers don't make you look credible.

> Have you been laboring under the delusion all this time that I am
> "George Orwell"? Think back to your "fat black ass" slur to African-
> American Steve Chaney and how I treated it in 1992-1996 before you
> reply.
>
> Chaney called you PatricKKK on account of that slur, complete with you
> calling him "boy" and signing off with the comment that you were
> grateful you are not "a waste of DNA" like Chaney.

That was then, and he managed to be better than you, Phony. (You're still
ripping off your county-sized state.)

pnyikos

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:56:48 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 23, 2:11 am, Lefty <leftydr...@netscape.net> wrote:
> On Nov 22, 2:45 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > In article <hec335$k8...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>
> >  IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
> > > On 11/22/09 2:18 PM, * Lefty wrote:
> > > > This same race-baiting asshole has been hanging around other groups
> > > > for some time now, using the name George Orwell, among others. I doubt
> > > > it's Osprey or Nyikos since they don't hang at those groups. The troll
> > > > saw there was a feud going on here, and decided to fuel it.
>
> > > "George Orwell" also posted (once, as far as I can
> > > tell) from an IP owned by the Delaware Department
> > > of Corrections.
>
> > > Coincidentally, that's where Osprey works. Let's
> > > just say that I would not be surprised to find out
> > > that he and Nyikos are trying something on, either
> > > posing as these racist assholes or inciting them.
>
> > interesting concept. fifteen years ago, the original peter nyikos was
> > also successful in manipulating the posts of some of the lesser minds in
> > talk.abortion.
>
> Wouldn't it be funny if he was forging his supposed ally, Osprey, just
> to perpetuate the feud? I've seen it happen.

Not from me, you haven't.

Keegan was trolling too.

>I'd never trust a
> stranger who, out of the blue, started obsessively defending me in a
> personal dispute and attacking my flamers like Nyikos does for Osprey.

It wasn't out of the blue. It was a long careful process, with me
carefully probing just what my opponents had against Osprey and
getting very unsatisfactory answers.

If you are the least bit open-minded, try asking Gwen to document her
claim that Osprey threatened to kill her. I got nowhere with that a
year ago, and Osprey finally joined in with a completely different
story. Nobody--not even Gwen--denied that. After she repeated her
claim a couple of months later, I pressed her to document her side of
the story, whereupon she posted an utterly bizarre fiction about my
and Osprey's sex organs. See the thread "Lioness hate?" which started
out as "Puppy love?"

I was being flamed by Osprey's flamers before I counterattacked, and
before I ever started looking into what manner of man Osprey was.
Look at my posts of a year ago. Observe how I didn't start flaming
Humphrey until March, when he shattered our peaceful coexistence.

At one point I even let people know I was willing to let bygones be
bygones, where he was concerned. But that changed in March.

> Those are people who feed off of the emotions of others.

That kind of behavior is alien to me. I seek justice, and have not
found it.

Peter Nyikos

pnyikos

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Nov 24, 2009, 1:02:03 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 23, 9:45 am, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <1582ee4d-f5b6-432b-bffd-b4edb4f38...@j11g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,

>
>
>
>  Lefty <leftydr...@netscape.net> wrote:
> > On Nov 22, 2:45 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > In article <hec335$k8...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>
> > >  IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
> > > > On 11/22/09 2:18 PM, * Lefty wrote:
> > > > > This same race-baiting asshole has been hanging around other groups
> > > > > for some time now, using the name George Orwell, among others. I doubt
> > > > > it's Osprey or Nyikos since they don't hang at those groups. The troll
> > > > > saw there was a feud going on here, and decided to fuel it.
>
> > > > "George Orwell" also posted (once, as far as I can
> > > > tell) from an IP owned by the Delaware Department
> > > > of Corrections.
>
> > > > Coincidentally, that's where Osprey works. Let's
> > > > just say that I would not be surprised to find out
> > > > that he and Nyikos are trying something on, either
> > > > posing as these racist assholes or inciting them.
>
> > > interesting concept. fifteen years ago, the original peter nyikos was
> > > also successful in manipulating the posts of some of the lesser minds in
> > > talk.abortion.
>
> > Wouldn't it be funny if he was forging his supposed ally, Osprey, just
> > to perpetuate the feud? I've seen it happen. I'd never trust a

> > stranger who, out of the blue, started obsessively defending me in a
> > personal dispute and attacking my flamers like Nyikos does for Osprey.
> > Those are people who feed off of the emotions of others.
>
> the name george orwell has been around newsgroups for a while. all the
> posts i have seen came from an anonymous remailer. it might be a troll
> playing with osprey and the group.
>
> it's hard to imagine what would motivate anyone, much less an alleged
> phd, to start aggressively defending osprey.

See my reply to Lefty of a few minutes ago. I sent him a CC of it
because I didn't want him to miss it.

>there is simply no rational
> explanation.

You say that because the concept of disinterested justice is alien to
your way of thinking. That got pretty well established in long threads
in January.

Peter Nyikos

pnyikos

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Nov 24, 2009, 1:18:11 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 24, 12:09 am, IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
> pnyikos wrote, On 09-11-24 12:03 AM:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 22, 2:23 pm, IAAH<n...@email.exist>  wrote:
> >> On 11/22/09 2:18 PM, * Lefty wrote:
>
> >>>> Setting themselves up as victims, in other words,
> >>>> in the best tradition of the bitchy kiddies glee
> >>>> club they seem intent on perpetuating.
>
> > IAAH still pretends he is not allied with Gwen, Keegan, Spartakus,
> > Humphrey, Fischer, etc. but trollings like the above speak louder than
> > these pretences.
>
> >>> This same race-baiting asshole has been hanging around other groups
> >>> for some time now, using the name George Orwell, among others. I doubt
> >>> it's Osprey or Nyikos since they don't hang at those groups. The troll
> >>> saw there was a feud going on here, and decided to fuel it.
>
> > Finally, a levelheaded participant.  Too bad I can't say the same for
> > you, IAAH.
>
> Yes, yes. Get back to me when you can show that religious bigotry or
> libel that you keep chattering about, mmmkay?

I didn't accuse you of libel. As for religious bigotry, I've twice
amplified my reasoning, and you will just have to wait your turn for
yet another amplification.

Meanwhile, you can start justifying the the wild speculations you've
spewed about me on this thread.

>
>
> >> "George Orwell" also posted (once, as far as I can
> >> tell) from an IP owned by the Delaware Department
> >> of Corrections.
>
> > Documentation?
>

> http://groups.google.com/group/talk.abortion/browse_frm/thread/cf1bf6...

Looks like one of those deep, deep threads: this is what I got when I
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>
>
> > Below, you are battling me even though I hadn't even put in an
> > appearance on this thread, and with a totally baseless piece of wild
> > speculation.
>
> >> Coincidentally, that's where Osprey works. Let's
> >> just say that I would not be surprised to find out
> >> that he and Nyikos are trying something on, either
> >> posing as these racist assholes or inciting them.
>
> > You should be a lot less surprised to find out that Fischer and
> > Humphrey are doing that kind of thing.
>
> Documentation?

All in good time. You have descriptions below. Can you give me a
description of the post which you are attributing to Orwell up there?


>
>
> > After all,  Fischer posted that he doesn't give a shit about women,
> > while Humphrey posted the following in reply to African-American UC-
> > Sacramento student Steve Chaney:
>
> >     Come on, Steve.  Let's see how much of a boy you are.
> >     March your fat black ass down here...
>
> > ["Down here" meant to Rice U., well over a thousand miles away from
> > Sacramento.]
>
> And?

and do you think you can find anything by me that even comes as close
to being racist as Humphrey's words?

Even if you dig back to 1992-1997, I guarantee you will fail.

>
>
> > But of course, if you were to seriously entertain such suspicions, you
> > would be playing Internet policeman to "everyone" [as you put it in
> > another thread] and we can't have that, can we?  Any sane person would
> > say, according to you, that what Fischer and Humphrey say is none of
> > his business.
>
> Whose business?

The business of "any sane person", which is your description of people
who think like you, and have not been personally and unjustly attacked
by either Humphrey or Fischer.

I didn't add that last clause earlier, because it is so obviously a
part of your general mindset.

> Get your pronouns in order.

I did an OK job of it. My only omission was not to spell out that the
"sane person"

Peter Nyikos

IAAH

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pnyikos wrote, On 09-11-24 1:18 AM:

> On Nov 24, 12:09 am, IAAH<n...@email.exist> wrote:
>> pnyikos wrote, On 09-11-24 12:03 AM:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 22, 2:23 pm, IAAH<n...@email.exist> wrote:
>>>> On 11/22/09 2:18 PM, * Lefty wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Setting themselves up as victims, in other words,
>>>>>> in the best tradition of the bitchy kiddies glee
>>>>>> club they seem intent on perpetuating.
>>
>>> IAAH still pretends he is not allied with Gwen, Keegan, Spartakus,
>>> Humphrey, Fischer, etc. but trollings like the above speak louder than
>>> these pretences.
>>
>>>>> This same race-baiting asshole has been hanging around other groups
>>>>> for some time now, using the name George Orwell, among others. I doubt
>>>>> it's Osprey or Nyikos since they don't hang at those groups. The troll
>>>>> saw there was a feud going on here, and decided to fuel it.
>>
>>> Finally, a levelheaded participant. Too bad I can't say the same for
>>> you, IAAH.
>>
>> Yes, yes. Get back to me when you can show that religious bigotry or
>> libel that you keep chattering about, mmmkay?
>
> I didn't accuse you of libel.

You made a case for it, liar.

As for religious bigotry, I've twice
> amplified my reasoning, and you will just have to wait your turn for
> yet another amplification.
>
> Meanwhile, you can start justifying the the wild speculations you've
> spewed about me on this thread.

No, not until you get back to yours, in that previous and rapidly-aging
thread. You'll "just have to wait your turn".

This time, see if you can do it without changing the subject so much it
falls out of the original thread - I realize that such is a tactic you
like, but it's weak.

>
>>
>>
>>>> "George Orwell" also posted (once, as far as I can
>>>> tell) from an IP owned by the Delaware Department
>>>> of Corrections.
>>
>>> Documentation?
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/talk.abortion/browse_frm/thread/cf1bf6...
>
> Looks like one of those deep, deep threads: this is what I got when I
> clicked:
>
> [no subject]
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> To make this topic appear first, remove this option from another
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THAT is a problem with YOUR options.

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Then reload, because I put that URL in another browser and it works.
But since 167.21.1.240 is confirmed as part of Delaware Department of
Technology and Information it's a moot point.

>>
>>
>>> Below, you are battling me even though I hadn't even put in an
>>> appearance on this thread, and with a totally baseless piece of wild
>>> speculation.
>>
>>>> Coincidentally, that's where Osprey works. Let's
>>>> just say that I would not be surprised to find out
>>>> that he and Nyikos are trying something on, either
>>>> posing as these racist assholes or inciting them.
>>
>>> You should be a lot less surprised to find out that Fischer and
>>> Humphrey are doing that kind of thing.
>>
>> Documentation?
>
> All in good time. You have descriptions below. Can you give me a
> description of the post which you are attributing to Orwell up there?

No documentation, accusation flushed.

>>
>>
>>> After all, Fischer posted that he doesn't give a shit about women,
>>> while Humphrey posted the following in reply to African-American UC-
>>> Sacramento student Steve Chaney:
>>
>>> Come on, Steve. Let's see how much of a boy you are.
>>> March your fat black ass down here...
>>
>>> ["Down here" meant to Rice U., well over a thousand miles away from
>>> Sacramento.]
>>
>> And?
>
> and do you think you can find anything by me that even comes as close
> to being racist as Humphrey's words?
>
> Even if you dig back to 1992-1997, I guarantee you will fail.

No documentation.

>
>>
>>
>>> But of course, if you were to seriously entertain such suspicions, you
>>> would be playing Internet policeman to "everyone" [as you put it in
>>> another thread] and we can't have that, can we? Any sane person would
>>> say, according to you, that what Fischer and Humphrey say is none of
>>> his business.
>>
>> Whose business?
>
> The business of "any sane person", which is your description of people
> who think like you, and have not been personally and unjustly attacked
> by either Humphrey or Fischer.

You just don't learn.

>
> I didn't add that last clause earlier, because it is so obviously a
> part of your general mindset.
>
>> Get your pronouns in order.
>
> I did an OK job of it. My only omission was not to spell out that the
> "sane person"
>
> Peter Nyikos

pnyikos

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Nov 24, 2009, 1:29:41 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 24, 12:32 am, IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
> pnyikos wrote, On 09-11-24 12:18 AM:
>
> > On Nov 22, 10:08 pm, "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯)<www.LayoffRemedy.com>
> > "<x...@m.com>  wrote:
> >> On 22 Nov 2009 23:04:08 GMT,
>
> >> Ray Fischer<rfisc...@sonic.net>  wrote:
> >>>   Submoronic Bigot, BILL TAYLOR (aka "George Orwell") spewed:
> >>>>      This twat whore fucks greasey, dirty, thieving, lying, shiftless,
> >>>      What a fine example of rightard morality you are.
>
> >>       The unfortunate fate that sometimes befalls anacepahlics.
>
> > Bill Mosco's suspicions are looking better and better.  See my reply
> > to Fischer of a few minutes ago.
>
> > Peter Nyikos
>
> Osprey libels those targeted by these anonymous posts in the period
> before they appeared, AND "George Orwell" posts from an IP address owned
> by the Delaware Department of Corrections,

I don't think Mosco saw that claim of yours before he posted. And I
still haven't seen that post. Can you repost the whole thing, complete
with headers, to this thread?

> but now it's more likely that
> it's some anonymous "liberal" posting?

I admit I was being ambiguous about "Bill Mosco's suspicions" but I
thought my post to Fischer made it clear that I was only referring to
the natural impression that Bill was rather far-out in his
suspicions. But with two people immediately asserting--not just
claiming to suspect--that the posts are the work of a right-winger,
Bill can now say that his suspicions just might have some merit.

Me, I'm in a state of suspended judgment, as is very common with me.

[deletion of IAAH apparently satirizing my frequent comments about the
cozy clique]

Peter Nyikos

pnyikos

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Nov 24, 2009, 1:32:49 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 24, 12:39 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

> pnyikos  <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >> william mosco  <wm5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >Anonymous wrote:
> >> >> this twat whore fucks greasey, dirty, thieving, lying, shiftless,
> >> >> no good for nothing goddamned nigger beasts. She's uglier than Hillary Clinton
> >> >> and three times as dumb. HANG ALL NIGGERS AND SHOOT ALL NIGGER LOVERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> >> >Hmm.  I might wager this person is actually a liberal.
>
> >> Why?  Embarassed by the insane hatred that you rightards exhibit?
>
> >He's irritated by the insane hatred you, for one, exhibit towards him,
>
> I don't like fascists who reject the Constitution and advocate for
> dictatorship.

Irrelevant. Try to stick to your reasons for hating Bill Mosco, not
your reasons for hating some un-named third parties.

Peter Nyikos

Ray Fischer

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Nov 24, 2009, 1:45:33 AM11/24/09
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pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>On Nov 24, 12:39�am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> pnyikos �<nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> > rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> >> william mosco �<wm5...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >Anonymous wrote:
>> >> >> this twat whore fucks greasey, dirty, thieving, lying, shiftless,
>> >> >> no good for nothing goddamned nigger beasts. She's uglier than Hillary Clinton
>> >> >> and three times as dumb. HANG ALL NIGGERS AND SHOOT ALL NIGGER LOVERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> >> >Hmm. �I might wager this person is actually a liberal.
>>
>> >> Why? �Embarassed by the insane hatred that you rightards exhibit?
>>
>> >He's irritated by the insane hatred you, for one, exhibit towards him,
>>
>> I don't like fascists who reject the Constitution and advocate for
>> dictatorship.
>
>Irrelevant.

Of course it's relevant, you stupid asshole.

> Try to stick to your reasons for

And I see you've decided to ignore the lie you wrote in your prior
post in this thread.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Lefty

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Nov 24, 2009, 2:56:56 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 24, 12:56 am, pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Nov 23, 2:11 am, Lefty <leftydr...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 22, 2:45 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > In article <hec335$k8...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>
> > >  IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
> > > > On 11/22/09 2:18 PM, * Lefty wrote:
> > > > > This same race-baiting asshole has been hanging around other groups
> > > > > for some time now, using the name George Orwell, among others. I doubt
> > > > > it's Osprey or Nyikos since they don't hang at those groups. The troll
> > > > > saw there was a feud going on here, and decided to fuel it.
>
> > > > "George Orwell" also posted (once, as far as I can
> > > > tell) from an IP owned by the Delaware Department
> > > > of Corrections.
>
> > > > Coincidentally, that's where Osprey works. Let's
> > > > just say that I would not be surprised to find out
> > > > that he and Nyikos are trying something on, either
> > > > posing as these racist assholes or inciting them.
>
> > > interesting concept. fifteen years ago, the original peter nyikos was
> > > also successful in manipulating the posts of some of the lesser minds in
> > > talk.abortion.
>
> > Wouldn't it be funny if he was forging his supposed ally, Osprey, just
> > to perpetuate the feud? I've seen it happen.
>
> Not from me, you haven't.

Correct. It wasn't an accusation.

> Keegan was trolling too.
>
> >I'd never trust a
> > stranger who, out of the blue, started obsessively defending me in a
> > personal dispute and attacking my flamers like Nyikos does for Osprey.
>
> It wasn't out of the blue.  It was a long careful process, with me
> carefully probing just what my opponents had against Osprey and
> getting very unsatisfactory answers.

The point was that if Osprey is nobody to you, I can't see a reason
for you to do so. That's what I meant by out of the blue.

> If you are the least bit open-minded, try asking Gwen to document her
> claim that Osprey threatened to kill her.

I don't much care about the details of other people's personal
disputes. I do like to enjoy the show and occasionally speculate about
the action, but it doesn't really matter to me who said what. I won't
assign blame to anyone in particular for the feud.

>I got nowhere with that a
> year ago, and Osprey finally joined in with a completely different
> story.  Nobody--not even Gwen--denied that.  After she repeated her
> claim a couple of months later, I pressed her to document her side of
> the story, whereupon she posted an utterly bizarre fiction about my
> and Osprey's sex organs.  See the thread "Lioness hate?" which started
> out  as "Puppy love?"

Sounds funny as hell. I'll have a peek.

>  I was being flamed by Osprey's flamers before I counterattacked, and
> before I ever started looking into what manner of man Osprey was.
> Look at my posts of a year ago.  Observe how I didn't start flaming
> Humphrey until March, when he shattered our peaceful coexistence.

Ah, so you're saying your motivation for defending Osprey is revenge
on your flamers, who also happen to be his flamers? That's a reason I
can understand, but I can't understand keeping it up for so long.

> At one point I even let people know I was willing to let bygones be
> bygones, where he was concerned.  But that changed in March.

Once feuds get to a certain point, there's often no turning back.
Personally, I don't hold long-standing grudges about mere insults and
accusations, but I have found that most people do.

> > Those are people who feed off of the emotions of others.
>
> That kind of behavior is alien to me.  I seek justice, and have not
> found it.

What's with the drama? This is petty feuding we're talking about, not
violations of your rights. If you consider being flamed injustice,
you're too sensitive and fragile to be on usenet.

Lefty

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Nov 24, 2009, 3:05:12 AM11/24/09
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I don't understand. Are you saying IAAH posed as Orwell?

> >to get them worked up by the responses, hoping
> > to gain allies.
>
> Perish the thought.  Though Orwell may be anti-abortion like "J" I'll
> have no truck with him.  Look at the follow-ups I've done to "J", and
> to "LC" on the subject of "J", if you have any doubts about that.

I have formed no opinion on your reaction to J Dung, so there are no
doubts to dispel. I pretty much figure anyone who can stand him needs
his/her head examined. Dung is my personal fave flame target.

> > Mind you, it's possible that the Orwell troll forged Osprey's work IP
> > to incite his flamers so he could watch the show Trolls do that.
>
> An interesting idea.  I wonder if IAAH can direct us to the post to
> which he is referring; it might reveal something.

I figure that's the most likely possibility- the Orwell/Nescio troll
is stirring the pot. But then again, what do I know?

Gwen Bennet

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Nov 24, 2009, 9:14:45 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 23, 8:51 pm, elizabeth <efran...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 22, 11:11 pm, Lefty <leftydr...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 22, 2:45 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > In article <hec335$k8...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>
> > >  IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
> > > > On 11/22/09 2:18 PM, * Lefty wrote:
> > > > > This same race-baiting asshole has been hanging around other groups
> > > > > for some time now, using the name George Orwell, among others. I doubt
> > > > > it's Osprey or Nyikos since they don't hang at those groups. The troll
> > > > > saw there was a feud going on here, and decided to fuel it.
>
> > > > "George Orwell" also posted (once, as far as I can
> > > > tell) from an IP owned by the Delaware Department
> > > > of Corrections.
>
> > > > Coincidentally, that's where Osprey works. Let's
> > > > just say that I would not be surprised to find out
> > > > that he and Nyikos are trying something on, either
> > > > posing as these racist assholes or inciting them.
>
> > > interesting concept. fifteen years ago, the original peter nyikos was
> > > also successful in manipulating the posts of some of the lesser minds in
> > > talk.abortion.
>
> > Wouldn't it be funny if he was forging his supposed ally, Osprey, just
> > to perpetuate the feud? I've seen it happen. I'd never trust a

> > stranger who, out of the blue, started obsessively defending me in a
> > personal dispute and attacking my flamers like Nyikos does for Osprey.
> > Those are people who feed off of the emotions of others.- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I've often thought that Oopsey is actually being impersonated by an
> inmate of the DDoC, in order to discredit the prison- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

That was my concern, years ago - but with all of that I've seen, I'm
convinced it is the little cocksucker. (And if it were an inmate,
their impersonation wouldn't do anything to discredit the department;
with incompetency running the prison systems on the other side of the
bars, no further discreditation is necessary.

Gwen Bennet

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Nov 24, 2009, 9:15:56 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 23, 8:53 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <7dd4f579-7200-4b1d-b113-1daa88c60...@y32g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
> > I've often thought that Oopsey is actually being impersonated by an
> > inmate of the DDoC, in order to discredit the prison
>
> if so, they have been most successful in embarrassing the entire
> corrections department- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Not really. The prison system in that state was already corrupt.
Osprey's discreditation is only the boil-over from what's been a long
problem, within that prison system.

Gwen Bennet

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Nov 24, 2009, 9:17:50 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 24, 12:38 am, pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Nov 23, 12:42 am, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:29:38 +0100 (CET), George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
> > > this twat whore fucks
>
> > Do the other 6.8 billion of us the favor of your suicide, Fake Phony.
>
> Nice to know that you really use the expression "Fake Phony" to refer
> to this outrageous racist,

The person using his name and discrediting him could be...

Gwen Bennet

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Nov 24, 2009, 9:18:40 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 24, 12:03 am, pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> On Nov 22, 2:23 pm, IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
>
> > On 11/22/09 2:18 PM, * Lefty wrote:
>
> > >> Setting themselves up as victims, in other words,
> > >> in the best tradition of the bitchy kiddies glee
> > >> club they seem intent on perpetuating.
>
> IAAH still pretends he is not allied with Gwen,...

Why would IAAH be?

james g. keegan jr.

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:38:51 PM11/24/09
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In article <hefr6a$18c$2...@news.eternal-september.org>,
IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:

> pnyikos wrote, On 09-11-24 12:18 AM:
> > On Nov 22, 10:08 pm, "(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���)<www.LayoffRemedy.com>
> > "<x...@m.com> wrote:
> >> On 22 Nov 2009 23:04:08 GMT,
> >>
> >> Ray Fischer<rfisc...@sonic.net> wrote:
> >>> Submoronic Bigot, BILL TAYLOR (aka "George Orwell") spewed:
> >>>> This twat whore fucks greasey, dirty, thieving, lying, shiftless,
> >>> What a fine example of rightard morality you are.
> >>
> >> The unfortunate fate that sometimes befalls anacepahlics.
> >
> > Bill Mosco's suspicions are looking better and better. See my reply
> > to Fischer of a few minutes ago.
>

> Osprey libels those targeted by these anonymous posts in the period
> before they appeared, AND "George Orwell" posts from an IP address owned
> by the Delaware Department of Corrections, but now it's more likely that
> it's some anonymous "liberal" posting?
>
> Suuure, Nyikos. Be sure to tell us which one of you is the lapdog and
> which one the lap, okay? It's hard to tell from here.


and the guy still expects you to accept that he is an analytical match
phd.

james g. keegan jr.

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:40:15 PM11/24/09
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In article
<d6c06cd6-dad8-4f7b...@p33g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> By the way, did Osprey say "You want to kill all Jews" to this "George
> Orwell"?


there is no "George Orwell," you nitwit.

james g. keegan jr.

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:51:19 PM11/24/09
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In article
<8971cc9d-f39b-42ae...@m20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

why? you did not say anything to refute the implications of my remark
above.


>
> >there is simply no rational explanation.
>
> You say that because the concept of disinterested justice is alien to
> your way of thinking.

you just demonstrated the accuracy of my observation.

james g. keegan jr.

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:54:45 PM11/24/09
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In article
<65bf8dd8-1ba3-4384...@j35g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Lefty, IAAH was trolling.

can you provide any evidence to support that silly claim?

"If you can't prove it on your next post, by default you admit you
lied."
coward bobby heishman posting as"SeahawkFan" <deseah...@hotmail.com>
in news:xb6dnQH276BlFX_a...@comcast.com:

james g. keegan jr.

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:57:09 PM11/24/09
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In article
<3bcfcef1-d68e-49f1...@o13g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> On Nov 22, 2:45�pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <hec335$k8...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >
> > �IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
> > > On 11/22/09 2:18 PM, * Lefty wrote:
> > > > This same race-baiting asshole has been hanging around other groups
> > > > for some time now, using the name George Orwell, among others. I doubt
> > > > it's Osprey or Nyikos since they don't hang at those groups. The troll
> > > > saw there was a feud going on here, and decided to fuel it.
> >
> > > "George Orwell" also posted (once, as far as I can
> > > tell) from an IP owned by the Delaware Department
> > > of Corrections.
> >
> > > Coincidentally, that's where Osprey works. Let's
> > > just say that I would not be surprised to find out
> > > that he and Nyikos are trying something on, either
> > > posing as these racist assholes or inciting them.
> >
> > interesting concept. fifteen years ago, the original peter nyikos was
> > also successful in manipulating the posts of some of the lesser minds in
> > talk.abortion.
>

> You can't give a single example, can you


previously done. you lied and denied it.

james g. keegan jr.

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:59:08 PM11/24/09
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In article
<0c828280-d7c6-4c56...@31g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>,
pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> On Nov 22, 2:23�pm, IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:

> > "George Orwell" also posted (once, as far as I can
> > tell) from an IP owned by the Delaware Department
> > of Corrections.
>

> Documentation?


shouldn't you demonstrate what you mean by responding to one or two of
the several dozens unanswered requests that *you* support what *you*
claimed?

james g. keegan jr.

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Nov 24, 2009, 8:33:14 PM11/24/09
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On 2009-11-24 01:32:49 -0500, the person posting as peter nyikos,
pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> said:


no one that i know of hates billy mosco, although many of the positions
he holds are hateful. i pity him, mostly, and wish he wasn't so
weak-minded and stupid to allow himself to be manipulated so horribly.


--
"You know, I've seen some incredible pussies post to t.a over the
years, but after seeing his webboard shennannigans, I have to say that
Heishman is the pussiest of them all." Matt Pillsbury <m...@seesig.com>
Message-ID: m2oeso5...@seesig.com

elizabeth

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Nov 24, 2009, 10:33:49 PM11/24/09
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On Nov 24, 5:33 pm, james g. keegan jr. <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2009-11-24 01:32:49 -0500, the person posting as peter nyikos,

Ah, Matt, how I miss him . ..

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