Abortion is Not Health Care
Sound of Trumpet
Abortion is Not Health Care
CatholicExchange.com ^ | November 6, 2009 | Joseph Meaney
Posted on 07 November 2009 08:11:19 by Salvation
Abortion is Not Health Care
November 6th, 2009 by Joseph Meaney
Bumper stickers with the message "Abortion is Not Health Care" have
started appearing around the country. They could also say infanticide
and euthanasia are not health care.
Our first child, Therese Marie, was born on September 29th the Feast
of the Archangels. While in the hospital I met the mother of a child
born prematurely and who had to be treated in the neo-natal intensive
care unit. That baby was fortunate to arrive in the USA and not Great
Britain.
Sarah Capewell’s boy Jayden came prematurely at 21 weeks and 5 days of
pregnancy in an English hospital. Had Jayden been born 48 hours later
he would have been eligible for intensive care treatment. Instead,
following their medical guidelines, the British National Health
Service staff allowed him to gasp for breath for two hours before
dying in his mother’s arms.
Welcome to socialized medicine.
My wife and I saw some of the problems with the US health care system
firsthand through the delivery and neo-natal care of our daughter. The
fear of lawsuits leads directly to costly defensive medicine,
including the ordering of unnecessary medical tests. At times it seems
like the whole health care system is oriented towards the convenience
of medical staff rather than the best interests of the patients. Costs
are indeed very high.
On the other hand, we had no fear that the very best trained personnel
and technology were ready and willing to care for the patients. For
example, the USA has 27 magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) machines,
very effective tools for accurate diagnosis, per million Americans.
The figure for both Canada and Great Britain is 6 per million
inhabitants. One could go on about the things that America’s flawed
system provides that are simply not available under socialized medical
regimes, but the end results of both systems when compared are clear
for all to see. Overall cancer survival rates after 5 years for
American men are 66% and 63% for women. In Europe they are 47% for men
and 56% for women.
"Health Care Reform should be about saving lives NOT destroying them"
is the slogan of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops ‘
campaign to oppose vigorously the current health care legislation
before the US Congress. Abortion providers stand to receive millions
of our taxpayer dollars for their deadly work if the bills are not
properly amended. The right of medical practitioners to decline to
perform immoral procedures because of conscientious objection is not
protected in the current drafts. Bureaucrats will be giving the
gravely ill and elderly voluntary "end of life counseling" and others
will decide who gets life-saving treatments and who won’t, as we see
already in Britain.
The legislation as it currently stands in the almost 2,000-page House
bill is totally unacceptable from a pro-life perspective. Please join
us in taking action to inform our political representatives of how you
feel about the health care bills that will be voted on in the next few
days (click here ). We must act and pray, asking for Divine
deliverance from this impending disaster.
Joseph Meaney is Human Life International's Director of International
Coordination.
W.T.S.
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> Abortion is Not Health Care
> CatholicExchange.com ^ | November 6, 2009 | Joseph Meaney
> Posted on 07 November 2009 08:11:19 by Salvation
> Abortion is Not Health Care
> November 6th, 2009 by Joseph Meaney
> Coordination.
it's just tissue, just like a hang nail. Abortion, in all its forms, saves
lives and insures the happiness and well being of normal, decent adults.
Please, for the sake of everyone, abort your baby today!
Baby, bad. Abortion, good!
--
http://folding.stanford.edu
Save lives, visit today!
raven1
<soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:
>Sarah Capewell�s boy Jayden came prematurely at 21 weeks and 5 days of
>pregnancy in an English hospital. Had Jayden been born 48 hours later
>he would have been eligible for intensive care treatment. Instead,
>following their medical guidelines, the British National Health
>Service staff allowed him to gasp for breath for two hours before
>dying in his mother�s arms.
Lie. Citation, please.
Ray Fischer
Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
duke
>Sound of Trumpet <soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:
>>Abortion is Not Health Care
>
>Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health care.
The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
Dan Listermann
"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4uh2g5luii0n9uin6...@4ax.com...
> On 16 Nov 2009 04:58:28 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
>>Sound of Trumpet <soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:
>>>Abortion is Not Health Care
>>
>>Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>
> Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health care.
>
It for you to judge only for yourself in your own bedroom.
Mitchell Holman
news:4uh2g5luii0n9uin6...@4ax.com:
> On 16 Nov 2009 04:58:28 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
>>Sound of Trumpet <soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:
>>>Abortion is Not Health Care
>>
>>Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>
> Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health care.
>
Abortion is safer than childbirth. Therefore for many
women it IS health care. Life-saving, actually.
More U.S. women dying in childbirth
ATLANTA - U.S. women are dying from childbirth at the
highest rate in decades, new government figures show.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20427256/
Phlip
For example, a woman was once at risk for late-term complications, and
needed to stay in the hospital continuously for fetal monitoring. Her
HMO sent her home and gave her a nurse 16 hours a day.
The baby died when the nurse wasn't there.
Oh, and the woman could not sue the HMO for malpractice, because
lobbyists have bought legislation that blocks all such lawsuits.
Now, what were you saying about the rights of the unborn..?
Don Martin
wrote:
Never been pregnant, I take it?
raven1
As the saying goes, "if men could get pregnant, abortion would be a
sacrament".
�R.L.Measures
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On 16 Nov 2009 04:58:28 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
> >Sound of Trumpet <soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:
> >>Abortion is Not Health Care
> >
> >Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>
> Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health care.
>
� What would you call aborting a fetus with no skull? What would you
call aborting a dead fetus ?
--
R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
Andre Lieven
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:30:56 -0800 (PST), Don Martin
>
> >On Nov 15, 9:29 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@dcemail.com>
> >wrote:
>
> >Never been pregnant, I take it?
>
> As the saying goes, "if men could get pregnant, abortion would be a
> sacrament".
However, that misandrous saying is a major lie.
Women, as it stands now, not only have abortion, which IS a medical
procedure, by which to void any parental situations and obligations
arising from those situations, but women, and women, ALONE, have
several
other NON medical and NON biological means with which to permanently
void any and all of their parental obligations: Legal abandon laws,
legal
adopting out, and so on.
Were the women's movement interested in ACTUAL equality under the law,
it would support MEN having such EQUAL legal rights to Make A Choice
to use NON medical and NON biological LEGAL means to void their
parental obligations, as women CAN.
So, the reality is, if men could get pregnant, abortion would be
illegal.
Because, for all other areas of the law in this issue, men's Choices
ARE already illegal.
We'll also skip past the fact that when a woman is a non custodial
parent, she is almost twice as likely to default on paying child
support
payments, and she is about one fourth as likely to be assed to make
any child support payments, in the first place.
http://www.mens-rights.net/law/support.htm
Andre
duke
Abortion is murder.
duke
>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>news:4uh2g5luii0n9uin6...@4ax.com:
>
>> On 16 Nov 2009 04:58:28 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>
>>>Sound of Trumpet <soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:
>>>>Abortion is Not Health Care
>>>
>>>Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>>
>> Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health care.
>>
>
>
> Abortion is safer than childbirth. Therefore for many
>women it IS health care. Life-saving, actually.
God created women as a life support system for the preborn. And women love it.
duke
A dead fetus is already dead. Abortion is murder.
Phlip
>
> ATLANTA - U.S. women are dying from childbirth at the
> highest rate in decades, new government figures show.
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20427256/
And if we had mandatory, subsidized prenatal health care, then fewer women would
have complications.
And fewer women would have to make the agonizing choice between poverty and a
quick abortion.
However, we certainly can't have mandatory, subsidize prenatal health care,
because that would be MARXIST COMMUNIST SOCIALIST FASCIST and MUSLIM!
Phlip
>
> ATLANTA - U.S. women are dying from childbirth at the
> highest rate in decades, new government figures show.
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20427256/
And if we had mandatory, subsidized prenatal health care, then fewer women would
Don Martin
> On Nov 16, 11:00 am, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:30:56 -0800 (PST), Don Martin
>
> > <drdonmar...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >On Nov 15, 9:29 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@dcemail.com>
> > >wrote:
>
> > >Never been pregnant, I take it?
>
> > As the saying goes, "if men could get pregnant, abortion would be a
> > sacrament".
>
> However, that misandrous saying is a major lie.
>
> Women, as it stands now, not only have abortion, which IS a medical
> procedure, by which to void any parental situations and obligations
> arising from those situations, but women, and women, ALONE, have
> several other NON medical and NON biological means with which to permanently
> void any and all of their parental obligations: Legal abandon laws,
> legal adopting out, and so on.
Both of which latter involve carrying to term. This exacts a toll upon
the woman's health and earning capacity but not the man's.
> Were the women's movement interested in ACTUAL equality under the law,
> it would support MEN having such EQUAL legal rights to Make A Choice
> to use NON medical and NON biological LEGAL means to void their
> parental obligations, as women CAN.
Would you include in this legislation the male's paying a salary to
the pregnant woman for 9 months of carrying the fetus as well as
assuming liability for any long-term medical problems she may incur
during gestation?
> So, the reality is, if men could get pregnant, abortion would be
> illegal.
You prate of reality by citing an unreal condition? Since men cannot
get pregnant, your proposed outcome is moot at best.
> Because, for all other areas of the law in this issue, men's Choices
> ARE already illegal.
Given a long-standing tradition of the abandonment of pregnant women
by the men who got them that way, I am not entirely surprised at this.
Are you? Seems to me, abortion is the best solution for both when
they are faced faced with an unwanted child. It also seems to me that
the most rabid opponents of abortion are overwhelmingly male, which
suggests more about their sexual dominance issues than their morality.
> We'll also skip past the fact that when a woman is a non custodial
> parent, she is almost twice as likely to default on paying child
> support payments, and she is about one fourth as likely to be assed to make
> any child support payments, in the first place.
Considering that U.S. women typically earn <60% of what men earn in
equivalent jobs, do you find this surprising? Or have Canadian women
greater equality in salaries? May Canadian women receive abortions
under public health?
Phlip
> Given a long-standing tradition of the abandonment of pregnant women
> by the men who got them that way, I am not entirely surprised at this.
> Are you? Seems to me, abortion is the best solution for both when
> they are faced faced with an unwanted child.
Uh, improving women's lib, including making desertion more illegal, would seem
to be a close second there.
But, hey, all the pro-lifers are generally all about that women's lib, too...
Jimbo
> On 16 Nov 2009 04:58:28 GMT, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
> >Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@dcemail.com> wrote:
> >>Abortion is Not Health Care
>
> >Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>
> Abortion is murder
Not under current law, lying pedophile loving duke.
�R.L.Measures
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:06:32 -0800, r...@somis.org (�R.L.Measures) wrote:
>
> >In article <4uh2g5luii0n9uin6...@4ax.com>, duke
> ><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On 16 Nov 2009 04:58:28 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Sound of Trumpet <soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:
> >> >>Abortion is Not Health Care
> >> >
> >> >Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
> >>
> >> Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health care.
> >>
> >� What would you call aborting a fetus with no skull? What would you
> >call aborting a dead fetus ?
>
> A dead fetus is already dead. Abortion is murder.
>
� many Catholic owned hospitals will not allow a dead fetus to be
aborted. How about the question of no skull?
Kenny McCormack
>
>>Sound of Trumpet <soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:
>>>Abortion is Not Health Care
>>
>>Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>
>Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health care.
So then is radiation therapy.
elizabeth
Let's be honest about the fact that contraception saves health care
dollars and banning abortion and contraception will "bust the bank" of
our health care system. We should mandate vasectomies, which is the
most cost effective as well as most failure proof form of
contraception, and charge those who don't breed and are sterile less
money. Paying for pregnancy and childbirth, and forcing the birth of
children with social and or physical impairment costs us more money
than we have! Sheesh!
Ronald Reagan signed the 1967 California Abortion Act into law, with
funding so poor women could get free abortions, because it's cheaper
than welfare.
elizabeth
>
> - Show quoted text -
Let's not forget that one of the leading causes of death to pregnant
women in the usa is HOMICIDE, generally at the hands of the
babydaddy.
I just wish men could get pregnant . ... I'd love to do to men what
pregnancy does to women . .. but that's several felonies in one . .. .
The Chief Instigator
> On 16 Nov 2009 04:58:28 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
>>Sound of Trumpet <soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:
>>>Abortion is Not Health Care
>>
>>Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>
> Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health care.
The Supremes machine-gunned your fantasy down going on 37 years ago. Live
in the present, for once in your wreck of a life.
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Chicago 2, Houston 1 (November 15)
NEXT GAME: Wednesday, November 18 vs. Peoria, 7:05
The Chief Instigator
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:06:32 -0800, r...@somis.org (?R.L.Measures) wrote:
>
>>In article <4uh2g5luii0n9uin6...@4ax.com>, duke
>><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 16 Nov 2009 04:58:28 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>
>>> >Sound of Trumpet <soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:
>>> >>Abortion is Not Health Care
>>> >
>>> >Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>>>
>>> Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health care.
>>>
>>call aborting a dead fetus ?
>
> A dead fetus is already dead. Abortion is murder.
Only in specific circumstances, none of which you'll ever qualify for.
The Chief Instigator
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:53:25 -0500, "Dan Listermann" <d...@listermann.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:4uh2g5luii0n9uin6...@4ax.com...
>>> On 16 Nov 2009 04:58:28 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Sound of Trumpet <soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>Abortion is Not Health Care
>>>>
>>>>Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>>>
>>> Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health care.
>
>>It for you to judge only for yourself in your own bedroom.
>
> Abortion is murder.
Enjoy your chemically-"enhanced" reality, Dreck. Reality couldn't care less
about your chosen collection of delusions.
The Chief Instigator
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:10:43 -0600, Mitchell Holman <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>>news:4uh2g5luii0n9uin6...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On 16 Nov 2009 04:58:28 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Sound of Trumpet <soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>Abortion is Not Health Care
>>>>
>>>>Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>>>
>>> Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health care.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Abortion is safer than childbirth. Therefore for many
>>women it IS health care. Life-saving, actually.
>
> God created women as a life support system for the preborn. And women love it.
You speak for no one but your foul caricature of yourself.
Dan Listermann
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:53:25 -0500, "Dan Listermann" <d...@listermann.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:4uh2g5luii0n9uin6...@4ax.com...
>>> On 16 Nov 2009 04:58:28 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Sound of Trumpet <soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>Abortion is Not Health Care
>>>>
>>>>Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>>>
>>> Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health
>>> care.
>
>>It for you to judge only for yourself in your own bedroom.
>
> Abortion is murder.
>
Phlip
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:40:33 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> God created women as a life support system for the preborn. And women love it.
>
> You speak for no one but your foul caricature of yourself.
The same losers who decry gov't intrusion into men's lives demand gov't
intrusion into women's lives...
Tom S.
wrote:
Such a sob story. Sounds like something from the pro-lie playbook.
How about some cites, please. Show us that this really happened.
Then you can tell us how being in the hospital undergoing fetal
monitoring would have saved a fetus that died in the womb. Or are you
saying that she gave birth at home and didn't have the sense to call
for an ambulance when she started into labor??
Tom S.
�R.L.Measures
Phlip
> In article <DOkMm.35449$Wd1....@newsfe15.iad>, Phlip
> <phli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The Chief Instigator wrote:
>>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:40:33 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> God created women as a life support system for the preborn. And
> women love it.
>>> You speak for no one but your foul caricature of yourself.
>> The same losers who decry gov't intrusion into men's lives demand gov't
>> intrusion into women's lives...
>
> � Good one Philip.
Sorry - I ripped it off the comments at dailykoz. I promise to never read that
librul screed again, k?
The Chief Instigator
You're out on the west coast, Clueless Wonder, and English is apparently a
mystery to you. I don't demand governmental intervention in women's lives.
The nerve of me, remembering how it was before January 1973...
The Chief Instigator
>
>>In article <4uh2g5luii0n9uin6...@4ax.com>, duke
>><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 16 Nov 2009 04:58:28 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>
>>> >Sound of Trumpet <soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:
>>> >>Abortion is Not Health Care
>>> >
>>> >Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>>>
>>> Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health care.
>>>
>>call aborting a dead fetus ?
>
> A dead fetus is already dead. Abortion is murder.
It's just a coincidence that it's almost never charged as murder. Ram your
head back up your ass and keep avoiding reality, Doink.
Mitchell Holman
news:ij33g5ppoh679ram7...@4ax.com:
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:10:43 -0600, Mitchell Holman
> <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>>news:4uh2g5luii0n9uin6...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On 16 Nov 2009 04:58:28 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Sound of Trumpet <soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>Abortion is Not Health Care
>>>>
>>>>Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>>>
>>> Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health
>>> care.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Abortion is safer than childbirth. Therefore for many
>>women it IS health care. Life-saving, actually.
>
> God created women as a life support system for the preborn.
So why are some women infertile?
Ray Fischer
>On 16 Nov 2009 04:58:28 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
>>Sound of Trumpet <soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:
>>>Abortion is Not Health Care
>>
>>Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>
>Abortion is murder
For someone who claims he doesn't lie you sure do resort
to egregious lies like that one.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:10:43 -0600, Mitchell Holman <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>>news:4uh2g5luii0n9uin6...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On 16 Nov 2009 04:58:28 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Sound of Trumpet <soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>Abortion is Not Health Care
>>>>
>>>>Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>>>
>>> Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health care.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Abortion is safer than childbirth. Therefore for many
>>women it IS health care. Life-saving, actually.
>
>God created women as a life support system for the preborn.
Says who, pro-liar?
You're just lying about God yet again. It's all you have.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
hypa...@comcast.net
>
> >Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@dcemail.com> wrote:
> >>Abortion is Not Health Care
>
> >Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>
> Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health care.
>
have kids when she's ready. It isn't your decision or the Pope's.
hypa...@comcast.net
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:10:43 -0600, Mitchell Holman <noem...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in
> >news:4uh2g5luii0n9uin6...@4ax.com:
>
> >> On 16 Nov 2009 04:58:28 GMT, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
> >>>Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@dcemail.com> wrote:
> >>>>Abortion is Not Health Care
>
> >>>Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>
> >> Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health care.
>
> >women it IS health care. Life-saving, actually.
>
>
God critter has no say in the matter. Women would just love to
hand over the joys of pregnancy to men. Are you willing to be
the first man accept this joy?
Dan Listermann
"Mitchell Holman" <noe...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9CC5DFBE53E87...@216.196.97.130...
Phlip
> Let's not forget that one of the leading causes of death to pregnant
> women in the usa is HOMICIDE, generally at the hands of the
> babydaddy.
>
> I just wish men could get pregnant . ... I'd love to do to men what
> pregnancy does to women . .. but that's several felonies in one . .. .
Al Bundy watching TV: "Next on Oprah - Men. Line them up and shoot
them all."
Jimbo
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:58:42 -0800, Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The Chief Instigator wrote:
>
> >>> God created women as a life support system for the preborn. And women love it.
>
> >> You speak for no one but your foul caricature of yourself.
>
> > The same losers who decry gov't intrusion into men's lives demand gov't
> > intrusion into women's lives...
>
> You're out on the west coast, Clueless Wonder, and English is apparently a
> mystery to you. I don't demand governmental intervention in women's lives.
> The nerve of me, remembering how it was before January 1973...
>
> --
> www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php(TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
> LAST GAME: Chicago 2, Houston 1 (November 15)
> NEXT GAME: Wednesday, November 18 vs. Peoria, 7:05
I'm pretty sure he was referring to duke the pedophile lover.
Kenny McCormack
While I certainly agree with you, do keep in mind that much the same
argument could be raised in favor of infanticide. I.e., the kid isn't
cuddly anymore, it is an inconvenience, get rid of it. But we, as a
society, don't allow that. The point is, you have to draw a line
somewhere - and centuries of experience have taught us that the right
place to draw the line is at birth. We vigorously protect the life of a
human being, once we determine it to be a human being. And this is, of
course, as it should be.
As another poster mentioned, if they ever do take this "human life
begins at conception" stuff seriously (which will, of course, never
happen, for myriads of reasons), the lawyers (tax, inheritance, car pool
lanes, etc, etc) will have a field day.
elizabeth
wrote:
> In article <cca91e87-cbed-4e27-b836-fc0df356c...@t18g2000vbj.googlegroups.com>,
>
> hypati...@comcast.net <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >On Nov 16, 7:38 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On 16 Nov 2009 04:58:28 GMT, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
> >> >Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@dcemail.com> wrote:
> >> >>Abortion is Not Health Care
>
> >> >Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>
> >> Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health care.
>
> >It may save her life and it may save her future. She can always
> >have kids when she's ready. It isn't your decision or the Pope's.
Are you really this stupid?
> While I certainly agree with you, do keep in mind that much the same
> argument could be raised in favor of infanticide.
Nope. Irrelevant. Pregnancy and childbirth are very harmful, and
abortion relieves that, and after birth, a child can be given to
someone else to raise. What a pity you antiabortniks don't do
anything about the millions of actual children who need help right
now . ..
Kenny McCormack
elizabeth <efra...@hotmail.com> wrote:
...
Someone else wrote this:
>> >It may save her life and it may save her future. She can always
>> >have kids when she's ready. It isn't your decision or the Pope's.
>Are you really this stupid?
No. Someone else wrote that.
But it sounds like we pretty much agree with it - that she can have kids
later, and that it isn't the Pope's call. Don't we agree about that?
>> While I certainly agree with you, do keep in mind that much the same
>> argument could be raised in favor of infanticide.
>
>Nope. Irrelevant. Pregnancy and childbirth are very harmful, and
>abortion relieves that, and after birth, a child can be given to
>someone else to raise. What a pity you antiabortniks don't do
>anything about the millions of actual children who need help right
>now . ..
I think you have me confused with someone else.
Hint: the quote above was a rhetorical device.
>> As another poster mentioned, if they ever do take this "human life
>> begins at conception" stuff seriously (which will, of course, never
>> happen, for myriads of reasons), the lawyers (tax, inheritance, car pool
>> lanes, etc, etc) will have a field day.
This is the important thing. I note that you didn't see fit to comment
upon it.
The Chief Instigator
How much is the Church of the Whore of Rome paying him for that "service"?
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
The Chief Instigator
> On Nov 16, 10:16?pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:58:42 -0800, Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > The Chief Instigator wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:40:33 -0600, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >> You speak for no one but your foul caricature of yourself.
>>
>> > The same losers who decry gov't intrusion into men's lives demand gov't
>> > intrusion into women's lives...
>>
>> You're out on the west coast, Clueless Wonder, and English is apparently a
>> The nerve of me, remembering how it was before January 1973...
>>
>> --
>> ? ? ?www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php(TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? LAST GAME: Chicago 2, Houston 1 (November 15)
>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ?NEXT GAME: ?Wednesday, November 18 vs. Peoria, 7:05
>
> I'm pretty sure he was referring to duke the pedophile lover.
That occurred to me last night. Duke's going to be living in interesting
times, if he gets any of his ways.
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
Jimbo
> On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:05:31 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdbig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 16, 10:16?pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:58:42 -0800, Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > The Chief Instigator wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:40:33 -0600, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >> >>> God created women as a life support system for the preborn. ? And women love it.
>
> >> >> You speak for no one but your foul caricature of yourself.
>
> >> > The same losers who decry gov't intrusion into men's lives demand gov't
> >> > intrusion into women's lives...
>
> >> You're out on the west coast, Clueless Wonder, and English is apparently a
> >> mystery to you. ?I don't demand governmental intervention in women's lives.
> >> The nerve of me, remembering how it was before January 1973...
>
> >> --
> >> ?Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey ?(patr...@io.com) Houston, Texas
> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? LAST GAME: Chicago 2, Houston 1 (November 15)
> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ?NEXT GAME: ?Wednesday, November 18 vs. Peoria, 7:05
>
> > I'm pretty sure he was referring to duke the pedophile lover.
>
> That occurred to me last night. Duke's going to be living in interesting
> times, if he gets any of his ways.
>
Fortunately, most people are far smarter than he and his kook pew
buddies. Even most Catholics I know would regard duke as an idiot.
�R.L.Measures
<7e6a6722-c61f-4968...@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, Jimbo
<ckdb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 17, 4:27=A0pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:05:31 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdbig...@gmail.com> wro=
> te:
> > > On Nov 16, 10:16?pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
> > >> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:58:42 -0800, Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > The Chief Instigator wrote:
> > >> >> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:40:33 -0600, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrot=
> e:
> >
> > >> >>> God created women as a life support system for the preborn. ? And =
> women love it.
> >
> > >> >> You speak for no one but your foul caricature of yourself.
> >
> > >> > The same losers who decry gov't intrusion into men's lives demand go=
> v't
> > >> > intrusion into women's lives...
> >
> > >> You're out on the west coast, Clueless Wonder, and English is apparent=
> ly a
> > >> mystery to you. ?I don't demand governmental intervention in women's l=
> ives.
> > >> The nerve of me, remembering how it was before January 1973...
> >
> > >> --
> > >> ?Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey ?(patr...@io.com) Houston,=
> Texas
> > >> ? ? ?www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php(TCI's2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
> > >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? LAST GAME: Chicago 2, Houston 1 (November 15)
> > >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ?NEXT GAME: ?Wednesday, November 18 vs. Peoria, 7:05
> >
> > > I'm pretty sure he was referring to duke the pedophile lover.
> >
> > That occurred to me last night. =A0Duke's going to be living in interesti=
> ng
> > times, if he gets any of his ways.
> >
>
> Fortunately, most people are far smarter than he and his kook pew
> buddies. Even most Catholics I know would regard duke as an idiot.
� However Jimbo , Duke pretty much follows what Rome dictates.
Jimbo
> In article
> <7e6a6722-c61f-4968-8d9a-e2c237db8...@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, Jimbo
>
>
>
>
>
> <ckdbig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 17, 4:27=A0pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:05:31 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdbig...@gmail.com> wro=
> > te:
> > > > On Nov 16, 10:16?pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
> > > >> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:58:42 -0800, Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > The Chief Instigator wrote:
> > > >> >> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:40:33 -0600, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrot=
> > e:
>
> > > >> >>> God created women as a life support system for the preborn. ? And =
> > women love it.
>
> > > >> >> You speak for no one but your foul caricature of yourself.
>
> > > >> > The same losers who decry gov't intrusion into men's lives demand go=
> > v't
> > > >> > intrusion into women's lives...
>
> > > >> You're out on the west coast, Clueless Wonder, and English is apparent=
> > ly a
> > > >> mystery to you. ?I don't demand governmental intervention in women's l=
> > ives.
> > > >> The nerve of me, remembering how it was before January 1973...
>
> > > >> --
> > > >> ?Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey ?(patr...@io.com) Houston,=
> > Texas
> > > >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? LAST GAME: Chicago 2, Houston 1 (November 15)
> > > >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ?NEXT GAME: ?Wednesday, November 18 vs. Peoria, 7:05
>
> > > > I'm pretty sure he was referring to duke the pedophile lover.
>
> > > That occurred to me last night. =A0Duke's going to be living in interesti=
> > ng
> > > times, if he gets any of his ways.
>
> > Fortunately, most people are far smarter than he and his kook pew
> > buddies. Even most Catholics I know would regard duke as an idiot.
>
> • However Jimbo , Duke pretty much follows what Rome dictates.
>
> --
>
> - Show quoted text -
True, I was thinking more about the American Catholics, many of which
have broken with the Vatican on a number of issues and decided not to
continue living in the 12th century.
The Chief Instigator
> On Nov 17, 4:27?pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:05:31 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdbig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Nov 16, 10:16?pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:58:42 -0800, Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > The Chief Instigator wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:40:33 -0600, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> >>> God created women as a life support system for the preborn. ? And women love it.
>>
>> >> >> You speak for no one but your foul caricature of yourself.
>>
>> >> > The same losers who decry gov't intrusion into men's lives demand gov't
>> >> > intrusion into women's lives...
>>
>> >> You're out on the west coast, Clueless Wonder, and English is apparently a
>> >> mystery to you. ?I don't demand governmental intervention in women's lives.
>> >> The nerve of me, remembering how it was before January 1973...
>>
>> >> --
>> >> ?Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey ?(patr...@io.com) Houston, Texas
>> >> ? ? ?www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php(TCI's2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
>> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? LAST GAME: Chicago 2, Houston 1 (November 15)
>> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ?NEXT GAME: ?Wednesday, November 18 vs. Peoria, 7:05
>>
>> > I'm pretty sure he was referring to duke the pedophile lover.
>>
>> times, if he gets any of his ways.
>
> Fortunately, most people are far smarter than he and his kook pew
> buddies. Even most Catholics I know would regard duke as an idiot.
No surprises there, as the Catholics I know would wonder what his collection
of problems are (which would probably require a 16-bit number).
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Chicago 2, Houston 1 (November 15)
NEXT GAME: Wednesday, November 18 vs. Peoria, 7:05
�R.L.Measures
<4a3e998f-85e0-4ba3...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>, Jimbo
<ckdb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 18, 8:27=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95R.L.Measures) wrote:
> > In article
> > <7e6a6722-c61f-4968-8d9a-e2c237db8...@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, Jimb=
> o
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <ckdbig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Nov 17, 4:27=3DA0pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:05:31 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdbig...@gmail.com>=
> wro=3D
> > > te:
> > > > > On Nov 16, 10:16?pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
> > > > >> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:58:42 -0800, Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com> wr=
> ote:
> > > > >> > The Chief Instigator wrote:
> > > > >> >> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:40:33 -0600, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> =
> wrot=3D
> > > e:
> >
> > > > >> >>> God created women as a life support system for the preborn. ? =
> And =3D
> > > women love it.
> >
> > > > >> >> You speak for no one but your foul caricature of yourself.
> >
> > > > >> > The same losers who decry gov't intrusion into men's lives deman=
> d go=3D
> > > v't
> > > > >> > intrusion into women's lives...
> >
> > > > >> You're out on the west coast, Clueless Wonder, and English is appa=
> rent=3D
> > > ly a
> > > > >> mystery to you. ?I don't demand governmental intervention in women=
> 's l=3D
> > > ives.
> > > > >> The nerve of me, remembering how it was before January 1973...
> >
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> ?Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey ?(patr...@io.com) Hous=
> ton,=3D
> > > =A0Texas
> > > > >> ? ? ?www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php(TCI's2008-09Houston Aeros) AA#2=
> 273
> > > > >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? LAST GAME: Chicago 2, Houston 1 (November 15)
> > > > >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ?NEXT GAME: ?Wednesday, November 18 vs. Peoria, 7:05
> >
> > > > > I'm pretty sure he was referring to duke the pedophile lover.
> >
> > > > That occurred to me last night. =3DA0Duke's going to be living in int=
> eresti=3D
> > > ng
> > > > times, if he gets any of his ways.
> >
> > > Fortunately, most people are far smarter than he and his kook pew
> > > buddies. =A0Even most Catholics I know would regard duke as an idiot.
> >
> > =95 =A0However Jimbo , Duke pretty much follows what Rome dictates.
> >
> > --
> > R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734,www.somis.org- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> True, I was thinking more about the American Catholics, many of which
> have broken with the Vatican on a number of issues and decided not to
> continue living in the 12th century.
** The church's deceptive teaching on Natural Family Planning has
alienated many of the RCs I know. Another problem for the hierarchy is
pressing lay RCs to pay for the altar-boy buttramming scandal that the
hierarchy itself created. .
Jimbo
> > 273
> > > > > >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? LAST GAME: Chicago 2, Houston 1 (November 15)
> > > > > >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ?NEXT GAME: ?Wednesday, November 18 vs. Peoria, 7:05
>
> > > > > > I'm pretty sure he was referring to duke the pedophile lover.
>
> > > > > That occurred to me last night. =3DA0Duke's going to be living in int=
> > eresti=3D
> > > > ng
> > > > > times, if he gets any of his ways.
>
> > > > Fortunately, most people are far smarter than he and his kook pew
> > > > buddies. =A0Even most Catholics I know would regard duke as an idiot.
>
> > > =95 =A0However Jimbo , Duke pretty much follows what Rome dictates.
>
> > > --
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > True, I was thinking more about the American Catholics, many of which
> > have broken with the Vatican on a number of issues and decided not to
> > continue living in the 12th century.
>
> ** The church's deceptive teaching on Natural Family Planning has
> alienated many of the RCs I know. Another problem for the hierarchy is
> pressing lay RCs to pay for the altar-boy buttramming scandal that the
> hierarchy itself created. .
>
> --
> R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734,www.somis.org- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
True, that's pretty much the same experience I have had with the RC's
I know.
Phlip
> alienated many of the RCs I know.
My RC wife and our love-child daughter think it work out okay...
�R.L.Measures
<fcb97507-82e5-417d...@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Jimbo
<ckdb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 18, 2:18=A0pm, r...@somis.org (=95R.L.Measures) wrote:
> > In article
> > <4a3e998f-85e0-4ba3-a9f8-f5e4f88cb...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>, Jimb=
> o
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <ckdbig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Nov 18, 8:27=3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D95R.L.Measures) wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <7e6a6722-c61f-4968-8d9a-e2c237db8...@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, =
> Jimb=3D
> > > o
> >
> > > > <ckdbig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Nov 17, 4:27=3D3DA0pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wro=
> te:
> > > > > > On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:05:31 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdbig...@gmail.=
> com>=3D
> > > =A0wro=3D3D
> > > > > te:
> > > > > > > On Nov 16, 10:16?pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrot=
> e:
> > > > > > >> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:58:42 -0800, Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com=
> > wr=3D
> > > ote:
> > > > > > >> > The Chief Instigator wrote:
> > > > > > >> >> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:40:33 -0600, duke <duckgumb...@cox.n=
> et> =3D
> > > wrot=3D3D
> > > > > e:
> >
> > > > > > >> >>> God created women as a life support system for the preborn=
> . ? =3D
> > > And =3D3D
> > > > > women love it.
> >
> > > > > > >> >> You speak for no one but your foul caricature of yourself.
> >
> > > > > > >> > The same losers who decry gov't intrusion into men's lives d=
> eman=3D
> > > d go=3D3D
> > > > > v't
> > > > > > >> > intrusion into women's lives...
> >
> > > > > > >> You're out on the west coast, Clueless Wonder, and English is =
> appa=3D
> > > rent=3D3D
> > > > > ly a
> > > > > > >> mystery to you. ?I don't demand governmental intervention in w=
> omen=3D
> > > 's l=3D3D
> > > > > ives.
> > > > > > >> The nerve of me, remembering how it was before January 1973...
> >
> > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > >> ?Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey ?(patr...@io.com) =
> Hous=3D
> > > ton,=3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0Texas
> > > > > > >> ? ? ?www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php(TCI's2008-09HoustonAeros) A=
> A#2=3D
> > > 273
> > > > > > >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? LAST GAME: Chicago 2, Houston 1 (November 15)
> > > > > > >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ?NEXT GAME: ?Wednesday, November 18 vs. Peoria, 7:=
> 05
> >
> > > > > > > I'm pretty sure he was referring to duke the pedophile lover.
> >
> > > > > > That occurred to me last night. =3D3DA0Duke's going to be living =
> in int=3D
> > > eresti=3D3D
> > > > > ng
> > > > > > times, if he gets any of his ways.
> >
> > > > > Fortunately, most people are far smarter than he and his kook pew
> > > > > buddies. =3DA0Even most Catholics I know would regard duke as an id=
> iot.
> >
> > > > =3D95 =3DA0However Jimbo , Duke pretty much follows what Rome dictate=
> s.
> >
> > > > --
> > > > R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734,www.somis.org-Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > True, I was thinking more about the American Catholics, many of which
> > > have broken with the Vatican on a number of issues and decided not to
> > > continue living in the 12th century.
> >
> > ** =A0The church's deceptive teaching on Natural Family Planning has
> > alienated many of the RCs I know. Another problem for the hierarchy is
> > pressing lay RCs to pay for the altar-boy buttramming scandal that the
> > hierarchy itself created. =A0.
> >
> > --
> > R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734,www.somis.org- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> True, that's pretty much the same experience I have had with the RC's
> I know.
** no surprise..
�R.L.Measures
wrote:
> > ** The church's deceptive teaching on Natural Family Planning has
> > alienated many of the RCs I know.
>
> My RC wife and our love-child daughter think it work out okay...
** chortle. good luck.
Phlip
> In article <w7ZMm.7201$tz6....@newsfe02.iad>, Phlip <phli...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> ** The church's deceptive teaching on Natural Family Planning has
>>> alienated many of the RCs I know.
>> My RC wife and our love-child daughter think it work out okay...
>
> ** chortle. good luck.
the other good news is the daughter has a slightly clearer concept of women's lib.
phew!
�R.L.Measures
<phli...@gmail.com> wrote:
� Good news.
"If men could get pregnant, birth control would be a sacrament"
> >Lady Margaret McMahon, aged 70 spoken in 1976
Phlip
> > More U.S. women dying in childbirth
>
> > ATLANTA - U.S. women are dying from childbirth at the
> > highest rate in decades, new government figures show.
> >http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20427256/
>
> And if we had mandatory, subsidized prenatal health care, then fewer women would
> have complications.
>
> And fewer women would have to make the agonizing choice between poverty and a
> quick abortion.
>
> However, we certainly can't have mandatory, subsidize prenatal health care,
> because that would be MARXIST COMMUNIST SOCIALIST FASCIST and MUSLIM!
crickets.wav...
Phlip
Phlip
> HMOs routinely deny fetus-saving treatments to pregnant women.
>
> For example, a woman was once at risk for late-term complications, and
> needed to stay in the hospital continuously for fetal monitoring. Her
> HMO sent her home and gave her a nurse 16 hours a day.
>
> The baby died when the nurse wasn't there.
>
> Oh, and the woman could not sue the HMO for malpractice, because
> lobbyists have bought legislation that blocks all such lawsuits.
>
> Now, what were you saying about the rights of the unborn..?
crickets.wav...
Jimbo
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:41:30 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdbig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 17, 4:27?pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:05:31 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdbig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On Nov 16, 10:16?pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:58:42 -0800, Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > The Chief Instigator wrote:
> >> >> >> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:40:33 -0600, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >> >> >>> God created women as a life support system for the preborn. ? And women love it.
>
> >> >> >> You speak for no one but your foul caricature of yourself.
>
> >> >> > The same losers who decry gov't intrusion into men's lives demand gov't
> >> >> > intrusion into women's lives...
>
> >> >> You're out on the west coast, Clueless Wonder, and English is apparently a
> >> >> mystery to you. ?I don't demand governmental intervention in women's lives.
> >> >> The nerve of me, remembering how it was before January 1973...
>
> >> >> --
> >> >> ?Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey ?(patr...@io.com) Houston, Texas
> >> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? LAST GAME: Chicago 2, Houston 1 (November 15)
> >> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ?NEXT GAME: ?Wednesday, November 18 vs. Peoria, 7:05
>
> >> > I'm pretty sure he was referring to duke the pedophile lover.
>
> >> That occurred to me last night. ?Duke's going to be living in interesting
> >> times, if he gets any of his ways.
>
> > Fortunately, most people are far smarter than he and his kook pew
> > buddies. Even most Catholics I know would regard duke as an idiot.
>
> No surprises there, as the Catholics I know would wonder what his collection
> of problems are (which would probably require a 16-bit number).
>
> --
> www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php(TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
> LAST GAME: Chicago 2, Houston 1 (November 15)
>
> - Show quoted text -
LOL! At least 16 bit.
Phlip
> ** The church's deceptive teaching on Natural Family Planning has
> alienated many of the RCs I know. Another problem for the hierarchy is
> pressing lay RCs to pay for the altar-boy buttramming scandal that the
> hierarchy itself created. .
Just another example of how repressing sex causes perverted
distortions...
�R.L.Measures
<92f7c3f3-acb1-48d6...@z35g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, Phlip
<phli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 18, 11:18=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95R.L.Measures) wrote:
>
> > ** =A0The church's deceptive teaching on Natural Family Planning has
> > alienated many of the RCs I know. Another problem for the hierarchy is
> > pressing lay RCs to pay for the altar-boy buttramming scandal that the
> > hierarchy itself created. =A0.
>
> Just another example of how repressing sex causes perverted
> distortions...
** As I see it the already perverted ones were attracted to the RC
priesthood by the RC vow of chastity (1079).
Phlip
In 1079 CE, that "vow" only meant priests could not get married. Their children
could not use legitimacy to compete with the church over inheritances. Further
distortions happened since then.
(I'm aware your 1097 might mean something else...;)
SkyEyes
> In article <yq0Nm.24802$Zu5.6...@newsfe24.iad>, Phlip
>
>
>
> <phlip2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > •R.L.Measures wrote:
> > > In article <w7ZMm.7201$tz6.6...@newsfe02.iad>, Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > >>> ** The church's deceptive teaching on Natural Family Planning has
> > >>> alienated many of the RCs I know.
> > >> My RC wife and our love-child daughter think it work out okay...
>
> > > ** chortle. good luck.
>
> > the other good news is the daughter has a slightly clearer concept of
> women's lib.
>
> > phew!
>
> • Good news.
>
> "If men could get pregnant, birth control would be a sacrament"
Not only would it be a sacrament, it would be free and they'd serve
beer.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net
�R.L.Measures
wrote:
� the god of the one true church is truly mammon.
The Chief Instigator
>>
>> No surprises there, as the Catholics I know would wonder what his collection
>> of problems are (which would probably require a 16-bit number).
>>
>> --
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>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> LOL! At least 16 bit.
At the rate he's regressing, 32-bit might be more appropriate.
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duke
>In article <qk33g59nr6evojckf...@4ax.com>, duke
><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:06:32 -0800, r...@somis.org (�R.L.Measures) wrote:
>>
>> >In article <4uh2g5luii0n9uin6...@4ax.com>, duke
>> ><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 16 Nov 2009 04:58:28 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Sound of Trumpet <soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>Abortion is Not Health Care
>> >> >
>> >> >Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>> >>
>> >> Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health care.
>> >>
>> >� What would you call aborting a fetus with no skull? What would you
>> >call aborting a dead fetus ?
>>
>> A dead fetus is already dead. Abortion is murder.
>� many Catholic owned hospitals will not allow a dead fetus to be
>aborted. How about the question of no skull?
It's not an abortion if the fetus is dead.
The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
duke
>On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:41:03 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:06:32 -0800, r...@somis.org (?R.L.Measures) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <4uh2g5luii0n9uin6...@4ax.com>, duke
>>><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 16 Nov 2009 04:58:28 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >Sound of Trumpet <soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>Abortion is Not Health Care
>>>> >
>>>> >Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>>>>
>>>> Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health care.
>>>>
>>>? What would you call aborting a fetus with no skull? What would you
>>>call aborting a dead fetus ?
>>
>> A dead fetus is already dead. Abortion is murder.
>
>Only in specific circumstances, none of which you'll ever qualify for.
I don't plan on getting pregnant, west loop. Are you experienced?
duke
>On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:41:03 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:06:32 -0800, r...@somis.org (?R.L.Measures) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <4uh2g5luii0n9uin6...@4ax.com>, duke
>>><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 16 Nov 2009 04:58:28 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >Sound of Trumpet <soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>Abortion is Not Health Care
>>>> >
>>>> >Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>>>>
>>>> Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health care.
>>>>
>>>? What would you call aborting a fetus with no skull? What would you
>>>call aborting a dead fetus ?
>>
>> A dead fetus is already dead. Abortion is murder.
>
>It's just a coincidence that it's almost never charged as murder. Ram your
>head back up your ass and keep avoiding reality, Doink.
Only in civil courts. But God's court has the last say so.
�R.L.Measures
<70d0b904-f4af-4ffa...@u8g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Nov 18, 6:49=A0pm, r...@somis.org (=95R.L.Measures) wrote:
> > In article <yq0Nm.24802$Zu5.6...@newsfe24.iad>, Phlip
> >
> >
> >
> > <phlip2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > =95R.L.Measures wrote:
> > > > In article <w7ZMm.7201$tz6.6...@newsfe02.iad>, Phlip <phlip2...@gmail=
> .com>
> > > > wrote:
> >
> > > >>> ** =A0The church's deceptive teaching on Natural Family Planning ha=
> s
> > > >>> alienated many of the RCs I know.
> > > >> My RC wife and our love-child daughter think it work out okay...
> >
> > > > ** =A0chortle. =A0good luck.
> >
> > > the other good news is the daughter has a slightly clearer concept of
> > women's lib.
> >
> > > phew!
> >
> > =95 =A0Good news.
> >
> > "If men could get pregnant, birth control would be a sacrament"
>
> Not only would it be a sacrament, it would be free and they'd serve
> beer.
>
** Good one Brenda.
�R.L.Measures
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:19:22 -0800, r...@somis.org (�R.L.Measures) wrote:
>
> >In article <qk33g59nr6evojckf...@4ax.com>, duke
> ><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:06:32 -0800, r...@somis.org (�R.L.Measures) wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <4uh2g5luii0n9uin6...@4ax.com>, duke
> >> ><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 16 Nov 2009 04:58:28 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Sound of Trumpet <soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>Abortion is Not Health Care
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
> >> >>
> >> >> Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not
health care.
> >> >>
> >> >� What would you call aborting a fetus with no skull? What would you
> >> >call aborting a dead fetus ?
> >>
> >> A dead fetus is already dead. Abortion is murder.
>
> >� many Catholic owned hospitals will not allow a dead fetus to be
> >aborted. How about the question of no skull?
>
> It's not an abortion if the fetus is dead.
>
� then why won't some Catholic owned hospitals allow a dead fetus to be
aborted?
The Chief Instigator
> On 16 Nov 2009 21:57:37 GMT, The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:41:03 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:06:32 -0800, r...@somis.org (?R.L.Measures) wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <4uh2g5luii0n9uin6...@4ax.com>, duke
>>>><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 16 Nov 2009 04:58:28 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >Sound of Trumpet <soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>Abortion is Not Health Care
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health care.
>>>>>
>>>>? What would you call aborting a fetus with no skull? What would you
>>>>call aborting a dead fetus ?
>>>
>>> A dead fetus is already dead. Abortion is murder.
>>
>>Only in specific circumstances, none of which you'll ever qualify for.
>
> I don't plan on getting pregnant, west loop. Are you experienced?
You'll not contribute to any pregnancy, if you ever did.
The Chief Instigator
Keep on convincing readers that you're an asshole godbot.
Lefty
> On 16 Nov 2009 04:58:28 GMT, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
> >Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@dcemail.com> wrote:
> >>Abortion is Not Health Care
>
> >Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>
> Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health care.
Antibiotic use is murder of helpless bacteria for your comfort and
convenience, not health care.
Lefty
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:10:43 -0600, Mitchell Holman <noem...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in
> >news:4uh2g5luii0n9uin6...@4ax.com:
>
> >> On 16 Nov 2009 04:58:28 GMT, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
> >>>Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@dcemail.com> wrote:
> >>>>Abortion is Not Health Care
>
> >>>Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>
> >> Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health care.
>
> >women it IS health care. Life-saving, actually.
>
> God created women as a life support system for the preborn. And women love it.
You probably think women love your fusty old cock, too.
Lefty
>Or have Canadian women greater equality in salaries? May Canadian women receive abortions
> under public health?
The answer is yes, one can get an abortion on public health care.
Don't expect a rational response from the well-known kook Lieven. He's
a jobless Star Trek convention geek who lives in his mother's basement
and rants about the oppression of men. Even among other mascunazis,
who are all nutty to some degree, he stands out as particularly
deranged.
Lefty
> Don Martin wrote:
> > Given a long-standing tradition of the abandonment of pregnant women
> > by the men who got them that way, I am not entirely surprised at this.
> > Are you? Seems to me, abortion is the best solution for both when
> > they are faced faced with an unwanted child.
>
> Uh, improving women's lib, including making desertion more illegal, would seem
> to be a close second there.
>
> But, hey, all the pro-lifers are generally all about that women's lib, too...
~More~ illegal? Is that like being a bit pregnant? Either it is
illegal or it isn't. Last I heard, it was.
Lefty
> On Nov 16, 10:09 am, Don Martin <drdonmar...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 16, 12:34 pm, Andre Lieven <andrelie...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 16, 11:00 am, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:30:56 -0800 (PST), Don Martin
>
> > > > <drdonmar...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > >On Nov 15, 9:29 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@dcemail.com>
> > > > >wrote:
>
> > > > >Never been pregnant, I take it?
>
> > > > As the saying goes, "if men could get pregnant, abortion would be a
> > > > sacrament".
>
> > > However, that misandrous saying is a major lie.
>
> > > Women, as it stands now, not only have abortion, which IS a medical
> > > procedure, by which to void any parental situations and obligations
> > > arising from those situations, but women, and women, ALONE, have
> > > several other NON medical and NON biological means with which to permanently
> > > void any and all of their parental obligations: Legal abandon laws,
> > > legal adopting out, and so on.
>
> > Both of which latter involve carrying to term. This exacts a toll upon
> > the woman's health and earning capacity but not the man's.
>
> > > Were the women's movement interested in ACTUAL equality under the law,
> > > it would support MEN having such EQUAL legal rights to Make A Choice
> > > to use NON medical and NON biological LEGAL means to void their
> > > parental obligations, as women CAN.
>
> > Would you include in this legislation the male's paying a salary to
> > the pregnant woman for 9 months of carrying the fetus as well as
> > assuming liability for any long-term medical problems she may incur
> > during gestation?
>
> > > So, the reality is, if men could get pregnant, abortion would be
> > > illegal.
>
> > You prate of reality by citing an unreal condition? Since men cannot
> > get pregnant, your proposed outcome is moot at best.
>
> > > Because, for all other areas of the law in this issue, men's Choices
> > > ARE already illegal.
>
> > Given a long-standing tradition of the abandonment of pregnant women
> > by the men who got them that way, I am not entirely surprised at this.
> > Are you? Seems to me, abortion is the best solution for both when
> > the most rabid opponents of abortion are overwhelmingly male, which
> > suggests more about their sexual dominance issues than their morality.
>
> > > We'll also skip past the fact that when a woman is a non custodial
> > > parent, she is almost twice as likely to default on paying child
> > > support payments, and she is about one fourth as likely to be assed to make
> > > any child support payments, in the first place.
>
> > Considering that U.S. women typically earn <60% of what men earn in
> > equivalent jobs, do you find this surprising? Or have Canadian women
> > greater equality in salaries? May Canadian women receive abortions
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> women in the usa is HOMICIDE, generally at the hands of the
> babydaddy.
>
> I just wish men could get pregnant . ... I'd love to do to men what
> pregnancy does to women . .. but that's several felonies in one . .. .
You think ~all~ men deserve that? Was your dad an abusive asshole or
something?
Lefty
wrote:
> In article <cca91e87-cbed-4e27-b836-fc0df356c...@t18g2000vbj.googlegroups.com>,
>
> hypati...@comcast.net <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >On Nov 16, 7:38 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >> >Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>
> >> Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health care.
>
> >have kids when she's ready. It isn't your decision or the Pope's.
>
> While I certainly agree with you, do keep in mind that much the same
> argument could be raised in favor of infanticide. I.e., the kid isn't
> cuddly anymore, it is an inconvenience, get rid of it. But we, as a
> society, don't allow that.
>The point is, you have to draw a line
> somewhere - and centuries of experience have taught us that the right
> place to draw the line is at birth. We vigorously protect the life of a
> human being, once we determine it to be a human being. And this is, of
> course, as it should be.
Why at birth? There is evidence of fetal sentience in the last
trimester. Doesn't sentience define personhood?
Jimbo
>
> <phlip2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 18, 11:18=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95R.L.Measures) wrote:
>
> > > ** =A0The church's deceptive teaching on Natural Family Planning has
> > > alienated many of the RCs I know. Another problem for the hierarchy is
> > > pressing lay RCs to pay for the altar-boy buttramming scandal that the
> > > hierarchy itself created. =A0.
>
> > Just another example of how repressing sex causes perverted
> > distortions...
>
> ** As I see it the already perverted ones were attracted to the RC
> priesthood by the RC vow of chastity (1079).
>
> --
> R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734,www.somis.org
That's pretty much my point of view as well. Given the fact that the
church has a very long history of enabling and protecting pedophiles,
even going so far as providing them with fresh victims to choose from,
what better place for a pedophile to "ply his trade" as it were. The
perfect cover for a pervert who has no interest in pursuing adult
sexual relationships to operate in. The church didn't create the
pervert, just provided the perfect operating environment for them,
then failed to correct this problem for decades, and most likely
centuries after it was well aware of the issue. This is why the
church is complicit in these crimes.
�R.L.Measures
<639308c9-029a-4496...@g23g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, Jimbo
<ckdb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 19, 1:27=A0pm, r...@somis.org (=95R.L.Measures) wrote:
> > In article
> > <92f7c3f3-acb1-48d6-b8a4-3e2ccaaae...@z35g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, Phli=
> p
> >
> > <phlip2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Nov 18, 11:18=3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D95R.L.Measures) wrote:
> >
> > > > ** =3DA0The church's deceptive teaching on Natural Family Planning ha=
> s
> > > > alienated many of the RCs I know. Another problem for the hierarchy i=
> s
> > > > pressing lay RCs to pay for the altar-boy buttramming scandal that th=
> e
> > > > hierarchy itself created. =3DA0.
> >
> > > Just another example of how repressing sex causes perverted
> > > distortions...
> >
> > ** =A0As I see it the already perverted ones were attracted to the RC
> > priesthood by the RC vow of chastity (1079).
> >
> > --
> > R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734,www.somis.org
>
> That's pretty much my point of view as well. Given the fact that the
> church has a very long history of enabling and protecting pedophiles,
> even going so far as providing them with fresh victims to choose from,
> what better place for a pedophile to "ply his trade" as it were.
** Indeed. A good article on this is UNHOLY ACTS by Paul Wilkes, p.61
The New Yorker Magazine, June 7, 1993
>The
> perfect cover for a pervert who has no interest in pursuing adult
> sexual relationships to operate in. The church didn't create the
> pervert, just provided the perfect operating environment for them,
> then failed to correct this problem for decades, and most likely
> centuries after it was well aware of the issue. This is why the
> church is complicit in these crimes.
** My guess is that the root cause was hubris.
Jimbo
True, I'm sure there was no shortage of that. Indeed, the church
must have been rampant with hubris.
elizabeth
>
> - Show quoted text -
No, just men who think it's OK to rape and force gestation.
Thank )O(goddess)O( not all men are like that.
Kenny McCormack
Attila <<proc...@here.now> wrote:
>On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:41:03 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> in
>alt.abortion with message-id
><qk33g59nr6evojckf...@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>Abortion is murder.
No, but LA traffic is.
>No, it isn't and never has been.
Indeed.
Lefty
In that case, I agree. Those men deserve all the pain of forced
pregnancy, birth and more.
Virgil
of bearing unwanted children to men.
duke
You don't abort something that's dead. You remove it.
duke
>On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:10:07 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On 16 Nov 2009 21:57:37 GMT, The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:41:03 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:06:32 -0800, r...@somis.org (?R.L.Measures) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In article <4uh2g5luii0n9uin6...@4ax.com>, duke
>>>>><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 16 Nov 2009 04:58:28 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >Sound of Trumpet <soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>Abortion is Not Health Care
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health care.
>>>>>>
>>>>>? What would you call aborting a fetus with no skull? What would you
>>>>>call aborting a dead fetus ?
>>>>
>>>> A dead fetus is already dead. Abortion is murder.
>>>
>>>Only in specific circumstances, none of which you'll ever qualify for.
>>
>> I don't plan on getting pregnant, west loop. Are you experienced?
>You'll not contribute to any pregnancy, if you ever did.
Are you experienced?
duke
>On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:10:49 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On 17 Nov 2009 03:18:32 GMT, The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:41:03 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:06:32 -0800, r...@somis.org (?R.L.Measures) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In article <4uh2g5luii0n9uin6...@4ax.com>, duke
>>>>><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 16 Nov 2009 04:58:28 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >Sound of Trumpet <soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>Abortion is Not Health Care
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Pro-lie disinformation is not truth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Abortion is murder for mommie's comfort and convenience, not health care.
>>>>>>
>>>>>? What would you call aborting a fetus with no skull? What would you
>>>>>call aborting a dead fetus ?
>>>>
>>>> A dead fetus is already dead. Abortion is murder.
>>>
>>>It's just a coincidence that it's almost never charged as murder. Ram your
>>>head back up your ass and keep avoiding reality, Doink.
>>
>> Only in civil courts. But God's court has the last say so.
>
>Keep on convincing readers that you're an asshole godbot.
And God still has the last and only vote.
The Chief Instigator
I'm experienced in slapping brain-damaged Cathoholics such as yourself,
Damaged Dork.
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