An Okie supermarket ad

[vickiebee]

This might not work, let me know.

For those of you who care about such things, here is a page from an
online ad in a local supermarket.

I'd be interested in seeing one from yours.

https://www.homelandstores.com/circulars/Page/4/Base/1/231004_HOME//

v - BTW, I do not buy processed food
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[vickiebee]

vickiebee wrote:
> This might not work, let me know.
>
> For those of you who care about such things, here is a page from an
> online ad in a local supermarket.
>
> I'd be interested in seeing one from yours.
>
> https://www.homelandstores.com/circulars/Page/4/Base/1/231004_HOME//
>
> v - BTW, I do not buy processed food

~~~~
This is for the one in Lawton on Cache Rd.
v

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[Tease'n'Seize]

vickiebee wrote:

> https://www.homelandstores.com/circulars/Page/4/Base/1/231004_HOME//

"Sorry, your request originates from IP address in blocked country."

[Adrian]

In message <nSidnXTwxpT7O7_4...@brightview.co.uk>,
Tease'n'Seize <tease-and-seize@invalid.?.invalid> writes

>vickiebee wrote:
>
>> https://www.homelandstores.com/circulars/Page/4/Base/1/231004_HOME//
>
>"Sorry, your request originates from IP address in blocked country."
>

Wot e sed.

Adrian
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[RustyHinge]

On 08/10/2023 13:26, vickiebee wrote:
> This might not work, let me know.
>
> For those of you who care about such things, here is a page from an
> online ad in a local supermarket.
>
> I'd be interested in seeing one from yours.
>
> https://www.homelandstores.com/circulars/Page/4/Base/1/231004_HOME//
>
> v - BTW, I do not buy processed food

Sorry, your request originates from IP address in blocked country.

--
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To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

[Citizen Smith]

vickiebee wrote:
>
> This might not work, let me know.
>
> For those of you who care about such things, here is a page from an
> online ad in a local supermarket.
>
> I'd be interested in seeing one from yours.
>
> https://www.homelandstores.com/circulars/Page/4/Base/1/231004_HOME//

That can't be seen in the UK without a VPN.
This is it in a PDF
<https://s3.grocerywebsite.com/production/printable_ad_im
ages/60236/original/231004_HOMELAND_BASE_1_ZONE_1.pdf>

[Citizen Smith]

vickiebee wrote:
>
> This might not work, let me know.
>
> For those of you who care about such things, here is a page from an
> online ad in a local supermarket.
>
> I'd be interested in seeing one from yours.

We're spoilt for choice with supermarkets where I live in
Bedfordshire, this is our nearest supermarket and I've
checked it isn't blocked with a US VPN.
<https://www.lidl.co.uk/>

[Tease'n'Seize]

vickiebee wrote:

> I'd be interested in seeing one from yours.

Not really local, but ...

<https://leaflets.aldi.co.uk/view/337567663>

[vickiebee]

~~~
Thank you so much for that, it was fun to browse, even though I wasn't
sure about the prices. I'd bet good money that your wines are far better
than ours, though we Okies could outdraw you when it comes to Moonshine.
<snort> Now I'm wondering about your Moonshiners/illegal whisky makers.

Oh wait, I want to share this - "I dreamed that I died and came back to
life as a hillbilly - it was a case of reintarnation."

In case you're not a fan of Yosemite Sam - tarnation is sort of a cuss
word to avoid saying damnation.

v - I guess you had to be there...
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[vickiebee]

~~~~
My apologies caff peeps, I had no idea about blocked countries. Thank
you for your trouble Mr. Smith, I hope some got to see.... and I won't
be trying that again.
v

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[vickiebee]

~~~
Thanks T&S, they had the prices blocked, but I'm reminded to go shop at
my local Aldi's (across town) because they really do have the best prices.
v

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[Kerr-Mudd, John]

Your beer range looks dismal. 'hard' == indigestible to me.

- and whats all them oz and lb
things? oz means made in Australia, I get that, but where's Lb? Liberia?
Anyway I want to know the weight of the products, not where their made.

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

[Ahem A Rivet's Shot]

On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 06:21:49 -0500
vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:

> Thank you so much for that, it was fun to browse, even though I wasn't
> sure about the prices. I'd bet good money that your wines are far better
> than ours, though we Okies could outdraw you when it comes to Moonshine.
> <snort> Now I'm wondering about your Moonshiners/illegal whisky makers.

The poitín makers round here claim that the moonshiners learned the
art from emigrating poitín makers.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/
Host: Beautiful Theory meet Inconvenient Fact
Obit: Beautiful Theory died today of factual inconsistency

[Sn!pe]

vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:

> In case you're not a fan of Yosemite Sam - tarnation is sort of
> a cuss word to avoid saying damnation.

Ol' Sam is the rootin'est, tootin'est, shootin'est varmint
you ever did see this side of the Pecos. Yee-haw.

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>

My pet rock Gordon just is.

[James Heaton]

The water is insanely cheap, about 12p a bottle if my conversion is right

Similarly the pork and beans - Heinz sausage and beans is £2 in my
online supermarket

$3 for 10lb potatoes also cheap, I pay £2 for 2.5kg so 5 1/2 lbs

Can't get Crest here anymore but Colgate is as low as £1 for a slightly
smaller pack

Cheap wine here about £5-6, better about £8 so not much difference.

6 Smirnoff Ice for $8.29 a decent price- £4.85 for 4x250ml here, not
sure if your serving size is bigger

Lager a decent price - assuming those brands are low to mid price
domestic, Carling is £16 for 18 440ml cans - about 80% of a UK pint
each, probably about 90% of a US one if I remember rightly?

Really intersting, thanks for posting Vickie and thanks for rendering it
readable in the UK Citizen Smith (or should we call you Wolfie?)

James

[Sn!pe]

James Heaton <heatona...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Really intersting, thanks for posting Vickie and thanks for rendering it
> readable in the UK Citizen Smith (or should we call you Wolfie?)

"Power to the people!" [clenched fist salute] ~~Foxy.

[vickiebee]

James Heaton wrote:
> On 08/10/2023 22:13, Citizen Smith wrote:
>> vickiebee wrote:
>>>
>>> This might not work, let me know.
>>>
>>> For those of you who care about such things, here is a page from
>>> an online ad in a local supermarket.
>>>
>>> I'd be interested in seeing one from yours.
>>>
>>>

That can't be seen in the UK without a VPN.
>> This is it in a PDF
>> <https://s3.grocerywebsite.com/production/printable_ad_im
>> ages/60236/original/231004_HOMELAND_BASE_1_ZONE_1.pdf>

[...]
> Really interesting, thanks for posting Vickie and thanks for

> rendering it readable in the UK Citizen Smith (or should we call you
> Wolfie?)
>
> James
>

~~~
You're welcome James, and I never 'met' Mr. Smith as Wolfie, but we used
to blather a bit in this Caff decades ago. I think. Peeps change their
nyms so much... I was Viva back then.
v

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[vickiebee]

Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 06:25:59 -0500 vickiebee
> <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Citizen Smith wrote:
>>> vickiebee wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This might not work, let me know.
>>>>
>>>> For those of you who care about such things, here is a page
>>>> from an online ad in a local supermarket.
>>>>
>>>> I'd be interested in seeing one from yours.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.homelandstores.com/circulars/Page/4/Base/1/231004_HOME//
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
That can't be seen in the UK without a VPN. This is it in a PDF
>>> <https://s3.grocerywebsite.com/production/printable_ad_im
>>> ages/60236/original/231004_HOMELAND_BASE_1_ZONE_1.pdf>
>>>
>> ~~~~ My apologies caff peeps, I had no idea about blocked
>> countries. Thank you for your trouble Mr. Smith, I hope some got
>> to see.... and I won't be trying that again. v
>
>
>
> Your beer range looks dismal. 'hard' == indigestible to me.

[..]
~~~
Harumph! An Okla. City brewery has won major craft beer awards in the
“Super Bowl” of beer festivals for the second consecutive year.

I'll also have you know that Okla. grown wines have won awards. A
Chambourcin and a Chardonelle, won the category awards in red and white
respectively.

Yes, I know it was at the Okla. State Fair... why didja have to bring
that up. ;D

v
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https://www.thefarside.com/

[vickiebee]

Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 06:21:49 -0500 vickiebee
> <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you so much for that, it was fun to browse, even though I
>> wasn't sure about the prices. I'd bet good money that your wines
>> are far better than ours, though we Okies could outdraw you when it
>> comes to Moonshine. <snort> Now I'm wondering about your
>> Moonshiners/illegal whisky makers.
>
> The poitín makers round here claim that the moonshiners learned the
> art from emigrating poitín makers.
>

~~~
(oh good, you're not miffed about my porkers crack)

Indeed, what I hear from my good friends Google and Wiki, is that potion
makers have been around since the beginning of time... and we Murricans
don't have any claim on the booze or the term "moonshine." It hails from
the British Isles - starting in the 1400's.

"Lexicographer Francis Grose, who prowled the seedier parts of London in
search for slang, heard moonshine used to mean unlicensed booze. His
Classical Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue (1785) includes an entry for
moonshine that captures both its earliest and emergent meaning.

Moonshine is: “a trifle, nothing. The white brandy smuggled on the
coasts of Kent and Sussex, are also called moonshine.”

I had a grandpa known for his corn liquor and 90 proof apple moonshine,
also a grandma known for her elderberry and dandelion wines. When I was
8 y/o I got it in my head to make orange wine. I put the juice from a
bunch of oranges into one of those old-timey glass milk bottles with a
flip-top metal clasp and a rubber seal... stored it in the cellar and
forgot about it. Until there was a gawd-awful explosion that made the
cellar stink of rotten oranges forever.
v
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https://www.thefarside.com/

[vickiebee]

Sn!pe wrote:
> vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> In case you're not a fan of Yosemite Sam - tarnation is sort of
>> a cuss word to avoid saying damnation.
>
> Ol' Sam is the rootin'est, tootin'est, shootin'est varmint
> you ever did see this side of the Pecos. Yee-haw.
>

~~~
Yay! Do you also like the Roadrunner?!
v

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https://www.thefarside.com/

[Citizen Smith]

vickiebee wrote:

>
> James Heaton wrote:
[...]
> > Really interesting, thanks for posting Vickie and thanks for
> > rendering it readable in the UK Citizen Smith (or should we call you
> > Wolfie?)
> >
> > James
> >
> ~~~
> You're welcome James, and I never 'met' Mr. Smith as Wolfie,

Instantly forgettable. LOL!

> but we used
> to blather a bit in this Caff decades ago. I think.

That'd be another Mr Smith.

> Peeps change their
> nyms so much...

Troo, dat.

[Sn!pe]

I first met Wolfie (Foxie if you want to twit him) a couple of decades
ago. It was several nyms ago too, way down at the bottom of the list.

I remember you too, Viva. The Caff post of yours that sticks out in my
mind is when you remarked that Amy Winehouse's 'Rehab' knocked your
little white cotton socks off. That and your description of a mare
meeting a stallion... You always made me grin. ≈:o)

[Sn!pe]

Meep-Meep! One of the best jobs in the world would have to be
development engineer for ACME Corp.

[Kerr-Mudd, John]

On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 14:06:54 -0500
vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:

> Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 06:25:59 -0500 vickiebee
> > <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Citizen Smith wrote:
> >>> vickiebee wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> This might not work, let me know.
> >>>>
> >>>> For those of you who care about such things, here is a page
> >>>> from an online ad in a local supermarket.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd be interested in seeing one from yours.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.homelandstores.com/circulars/Page/4/Base/1/231004_HOME//
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> That can't be seen in the UK without a VPN. This is it in a PDF
> >>> <https://s3.grocerywebsite.com/production/printable_ad_im
> >>> ages/60236/original/231004_HOMELAND_BASE_1_ZONE_1.pdf>
> >>>
> >> ~~~~ My apologies caff peeps, I had no idea about blocked
> >> countries. Thank you for your trouble Mr. Smith, I hope some got
> >> to see.... and I won't be trying that again. v
> >
> >
> >
> > Your beer range looks dismal. 'hard' == indigestible to me.
> [..]
> ~~~
> Harumph! An Okla. City brewery has won major craft beer awards in the
> “Super Bowl” of beer festivals for the second consecutive year.

OK, I was just commenting on the goods on sale on your leaflet.
Send me some of the good stuff!

>
> I'll also have you know that Okla. grown wines have won awards. A
> Chambourcin and a Chardonelle, won the category awards in red and white
> respectively.
>
> Yes, I know it was at the Okla. State Fair... why didja have to bring
> that up. ;D
>

Sounds fair to me.

[Kerr-Mudd, John]

On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 14:34:57 -0500
vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:

> Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> > On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 06:21:49 -0500 vickiebee
> > <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Thank you so much for that, it was fun to browse, even though I
> >> wasn't sure about the prices. I'd bet good money that your wines
> >> are far better than ours, though we Okies could outdraw you when it
> >> comes to Moonshine. <snort> Now I'm wondering about your
> >> Moonshiners/illegal whisky makers.
> >
> > The poitín makers round here claim that the moonshiners learned the
> > art from emigrating poitín makers.
> >
> ~~~
> (oh good, you're not miffed about my porkers crack)
>
> Indeed, what I hear from my good friends Google and Wiki, is that potion
> makers have been around since the beginning of time... and we Murricans
> don't have any claim on the booze or the term "moonshine." It hails from
> the British Isles - starting in the 1400's.
>
> "Lexicographer Francis Grose, who prowled the seedier parts of London in
> search for slang, heard moonshine used to mean unlicensed booze. His
> Classical Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue (1785) includes an entry for
> moonshine that captures both its earliest and emergent meaning.
>
> Moonshine is: “a trifle, nothing. The white brandy smuggled on the
> coasts of Kent and Sussex, are also called moonshine.”

see also "Moonraking".

Interesting point (to me) is that this isn't homemade stuff, it's illegally
imported (French I imagine) brandy.

>
> I had a grandpa known for his corn liquor and 90 proof apple moonshine,
> also a grandma known for her elderberry and dandelion wines. When I was
> 8 y/o I got it in my head to make orange wine. I put the juice from a
> bunch of oranges into one of those old-timey glass milk bottles with a
> flip-top metal clasp and a rubber seal... stored it in the cellar and
> forgot about it. Until there was a gawd-awful explosion that made the
> cellar stink of rotten oranges forever.

I once made a great liquor by combining 2 failed brews - one of raisins and
one of Orange juice.

(This was my early days of cheap homebrew, the OJ was from a carton, the
raisins from the cooking section of the supermarket - currants would have
cost extra).

[vickiebee]

~~~
Uh... did you ever live in Oregon and grow pot for the government?
v
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[vickiebee]

~~~
;) Good memories, you Brits sure did teach this cowgirl a lot... set me
straight about KY jelly not being an English jam you put on toast.

v - can't remember about the mare/stallion.
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[vickiebee]

~~~
An important point.
~~~

>>
>> I had a grandpa known for his corn liquor and 90 proof apple moonshine,
>> also a grandma known for her elderberry and dandelion wines. When I was
>> 8 y/o I got it in my head to make orange wine. I put the juice from a
>> bunch of oranges into one of those old-timey glass milk bottles with a
>> flip-top metal clasp and a rubber seal... stored it in the cellar and
>> forgot about it. Until there was a gawd-awful explosion that made the
>> cellar stink of rotten oranges forever.
>
> I once made a great liquor by combining 2 failed brews - one of raisins and
> one of Orange juice.
>
> (This was my early days of cheap homebrew, the OJ was from a carton, the
> raisins from the cooking section of the supermarket - currants would have
> cost extra).
>
>

~~~
Wow, great, how? Taste? Proof? Was that in your Rock 'n Roll days?

And how are currants and raisins different?
v
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[vickiebee]

Sn!pe wrote:
> vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Sn!pe wrote:
>>> vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In case you're not a fan of Yosemite Sam - tarnation is sort of
>>>> a cuss word to avoid saying damnation.
>>>
>>> Ol' Sam is the rootin'est, tootin'est, shootin'est varmint
>>> you ever did see this side of the Pecos. Yee-haw.
>>>
>> ~~~
>> Yay! Do you also like the Roadrunner?!
>> v
>>
>
> Meep-Meep! One of the best jobs in the world would have to be
> development engineer for ACME Corp.
>

~~~~
Ah, my kind of guy!

Also - "Son, son, ... I say son!"
(Foghorn Leghorn)
v

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[Sn!pe]

vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:

> v - can't remember about the mare/stallion.

It was about the way the mare winked at the stallion
as she frisked her tail. ≈;o)

--
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[Sn!pe]

vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:
[...]

> >>>> In case you're not a fan of Yosemite Sam - tarnation is sort of
> >>>> a cuss word to avoid saying damnation.
> >>>
> >>> Ol' Sam is the rootin'est, tootin'est, shootin'est varmint
> >>> you ever did see this side of the Pecos. Yee-haw.
> >>>
> >> ~~~
> >> Yay! Do you also like the Roadrunner?!
> >> v
> >>
> >
> > Meep-Meep! One of the best jobs in the world
> > would have to be development engineer for ACME Corp.
> >
> ~~~~
> Ah, my kind of guy!
>
> Also - "Son, son, ... I say son!"
> (Foghorn Leghorn)
> v

Pick yerself up thar, Boy, yer trippin' all over yerself.
Ah say, that boy's about as sharp as a sack of wet mice.

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator.

[Ahem A Rivet's Shot]

On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 22:42:58 +0100
snip...@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

> Meep-Meep! One of the best jobs in the world would have to be
> development engineer for ACME Corp.

An old fiend of mine had (for a while) a job that was almost as
good. He worked for an outfit that made special effects props for TV use,
he was particularly proud of the Goodies exploding computer.

[Kerr-Mudd, John]

On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 08:03:05 -0500

vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:

> Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:

[]

> >
> > I once made a great liquor by combining 2 failed brews - one of raisins and
> > one of Orange juice.
> >
> > (This was my early days of cheap homebrew, the OJ was from a carton, the
> > raisins from the cooking section of the supermarket - currants would have
> > cost extra).
> >
> >
>
> ~~~
> Wow, great, how? Taste? Proof? Was that in your Rock 'n Roll days?
>

There's wasn't any proof. Just circumstantial evidence.

> And how are currants and raisins different?

Apparently raisins are of more restricted origin:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zante_currant

Maybe it's sultanas that are more of an exotic eastern dish.

[RustyHinge]

Raisins are bigger, and generally stickier, a pointer to higher sugar
content.Currants are small and black, and I always thought. Ribes. But
Wicki tells me not. Must be *tiny* grapes, or different currants...

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

[Kerr-Mudd, John]

Well, whatever the names, I bet I used the cheaper one.

> Wicki tells me not. Must be *tiny* grapes, or different currants...
>
> --
> Rusty Hinge
> To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

[Citizen Smith]

LOL, yeah, that was me. The Scarlet Pimpernel. They seek
him here, they seek him there...

No, not really. I've never travelled to Westpondia,
though I have grown a little weed strictly for research
purposes <cough>.

[Citizen Smith]

Sn!pe wrote:
>
> Citizen Smith <csm...@tootingpopularfront.corn> wrote:
>
> > vickiebee wrote:
> > >
> > > James Heaton wrote:
> > [...]
> > > > Really interesting, thanks for posting Vickie and thanks for
> > > > rendering it readable in the UK Citizen Smith (or should we call you
> > > > Wolfie?)
> > > >
> > > > James
> > > >
> > > ~~~
> > > You're welcome James, and I never 'met' Mr. Smith as Wolfie,
> >
> > Instantly forgettable. LOL!
> >
> > > but we used
> > > to blather a bit in this Caff decades ago. I think.
> >
> > That'd be another Mr Smith.
> >
> > > Peeps change their
> > > nyms so much...
> >
> > Troo, dat.
> >
> > > I was Viva back then.
> > > v
> > >
>
> I first met Wolfie (Foxie if you want to twit him) a couple of decades
> ago. It was several nyms ago too, way down at the bottom of the list.

Time flies, innit. Not much down there now, nor anywhere
else.

I fink V is yanking my chain.

> I remember you too, Viva. The Caff post of yours that sticks out in my
> mind is when you remarked that Amy Winehouse's 'Rehab' knocked your
> little white cotton socks off. That and your description of a mare

> meeting a stallion... You always made me grin. ?:o)

[vickiebee]

~~~
Haha, funny guy. Wait, I think I've almost "sussed" it - there is a
nurse in your family. Right? I've now remembered that the Oregon Wolfie*
posted mostly in fifty-plus-friends. Where did Sn!pe call you Wolfie/Foxy?
v
*He really did have a license to grow pot for Oregon's research, they
let him keep 20%... for medicinal purposes, him being a PTSD Viet Nam
vet et al.
--
https://www.thefarside.com/

[vickiebee]

Sn!pe wrote:
> vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> v - can't remember about the mare/stallion.
>
> It was about the way the mare winked at the stallion as she frisked
> her tail. ≈;o)
>

~~~
Ah, now I remember! Yes indeed, right before breeding the in-season mare
does "wink" with that part of her anatomy ... but she also tries to kick
him... after he covers her and is spent, we had to hurry and get him off
because she could break one of his legs with a kick.
v

First, you say, you do
And then you don't
And then you say, you will
And then you won't…
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[James Heaton]

Hi Vickie, sorry I think my comment was too UK specific.

There was a comedy programme here called 'Citizen Smith' with Robert
Lindsay in the lead role, the character was nicknamed Wolfie.

It was a gentle satire of the small far left political groups that were
around in the 70s and 80s.

Might be available on streaming if you're really interested?

Just coincidence that there was a real Wolfie in the group too!

James

[vickiebee]

James Heaton wrote:
[Re Wolfie/Citizen Smith newsgroup nym confusion]
[...]

> Hi Vickie, sorry I think my comment was too UK specific.
>
> There was a comedy programme here called 'Citizen Smith' with Robert
> Lindsay in the lead role, the character was nicknamed Wolfie.
>
> It was a gentle satire of the small far left political groups that
> were around in the 70s and 80s.
>
> Might be available on streaming if you're really interested?
>
> Just coincidence that there was a real Wolfie in the group too!
>
> James
>

~~~
Thank you James, for clearing that up, I understand now. BTW I
accidentally stumbled into this caff about 30 years ago when I
researched "tea"... didn't even know what a newsgroup was. I enjoyed all
the quirky characters who taught me about the world. I've posted on and
off over the years in many different groups, and sometimes get them
mixed-up.

We used to do this here:
NL - (now listening ) Miles Davis
NE - buttered skillet toast
ND - black coffee

v
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https://www.thefarside.com/

[vickiebee]

~~~
Thank you all so much for explaining the raisin thing....

and making it even more confusing.

v - now laughing
--
https://www.thefarside.com/

[Sn!pe]

vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:

> Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 08:03:05 -0500
> > vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > []
> >>>
> >>> I once made a great liquor by combining 2 failed brews - one of
> >>> raisins and one of Orange juice.
> >>>
> >>> (This was my early days of cheap homebrew, the OJ was from a carton,
> >>> the raisins from the cooking section of the supermarket - currants
> >>> would have cost extra).
> >>
> >> ~~~
> >> Wow, great, how? Taste? Proof? Was that in your Rock 'n Roll days?
> >>
> > There's wasn't any proof. Just circumstantial evidence.
> >
> >> And how are currants and raisins different?
> >
> > Apparently raisins are of more restricted origin:
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zante_currant
> >
> > Maybe it's sultanas that are more of an exotic eastern dish.
> >
> >
> ~~~
> Thank you all so much for explaining the raisin thing....
>
> and making it even more confusing.
>

AIUI the little, hard, black currants originally came from
Corinth, Greece, hence the name.

> v - now laughing
>

Eeeh, yer've gotta laff, innit.

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator.

My pet rock Gordon just said yes.

[Ahem A Rivet's Shot]

On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 15:59:12 +0100
"Kerr-Mudd, John" <ad...@127.0.0.1> wrote:

> Maybe it's sultanas that are more of an exotic eastern dish.

You'd better ask the sultans about that.

[Ahem A Rivet's Shot]

On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 05:12:16 -0500
vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:

> when I researched "tea"

Did you come across the (flawed*) standard for making tea BS6008 aka
ISO-3103 ?

http://www.gatsby.ucl.ac.uk/tea/tea_archive/attached_files/BS6008.pdf

* It makes no mention of warming the pot - an objection raised by Ireland.

[Kerr-Mudd, John]

On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 11:46:51 +0100
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <ste...@eircom.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 15:59:12 +0100
> "Kerr-Mudd, John" <ad...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
> > Maybe it's sultanas that are more of an exotic eastern dish.
>
> You'd better ask the sultans about that.
>

I was getting to a point of wondering if anyone would get the Right
Answer.

[Ahem A Rivet's Shot]

On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 13:32:34 +0100

"Kerr-Mudd, John" <ad...@127.0.0.1> wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 11:46:51 +0100
> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <ste...@eircom.net> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 15:59:12 +0100
> > "Kerr-Mudd, John" <ad...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> >
> > > Maybe it's sultanas that are more of an exotic eastern dish.
> >
> > You'd better ask the sultans about that.
> >
> I was getting to a point of wondering if anyone would get the Right
> Answer.

It occurred to me to wonder - if they share sultanas are they
...
...
...
The Sultans of Swing ?

igmc.

[RustyHinge]

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https://rareteacompany.com

[RustyHinge]

On 13/10/2023 11:46, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 05:12:16 -0500
> vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> when I researched "tea"
>
> Did you come across the (flawed*) standard for making tea BS6008 aka
> ISO-3103 ?
>
> http://www.gatsby.ucl.ac.uk/tea/tea_archive/attached_files/BS6008.pdf
>
> * It makes no mention of warming the pot - an objection raised by Ireland.
>

Prolly makes a better brew - good tea likes to be brewed at 85°C. Some
green and white teas even cooler.

Green teas will brew up to 3 or 4 times at lower brewing temps.

[vickiebee]

Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 05:12:16 -0500 vickiebee
> <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> when I researched "tea"
>
> Did you come across the (flawed*) standard for making tea BS6008 aka
> ISO-3103 ?
>
> http://www.gatsby.ucl.ac.uk/tea/tea_archive/attached_files/BS6008.pdf
>
> * It makes no mention of warming the pot - an objection raised by
> Ireland.
>

~~~~
Oh my soul and body! Thank goodness I didn't run across that on my way
to discover the caff and newsgroups. LOL

No offense, but I'm reminded of a T-shirt that a friend once had -
"Engineer - always solving problems you didn't know you had, in ways you
can't understand." ;D

v

--
https://www.thefarside.com/

[vickiebee]

Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 13:32:34 +0100
> "Kerr-Mudd, John" <ad...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 11:46:51 +0100
>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <ste...@eircom.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 15:59:12 +0100
>>> "Kerr-Mudd, John" <ad...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Maybe it's sultanas that are more of an exotic eastern dish.
>>>
>>> You'd better ask the sultans about that.
>>>
>> I was getting to a point of wondering if anyone would get the Right
>> Answer.
>
> It occurred to me to wonder - if they share sultanas are they
> ...
> ...
> ...
> The Sultans of Swing ?
>
> igmc.
>

~~~
And your hat...

v

--
https://www.thefarside.com/

[vickiebee]

~~~
Hooray for Humane Tea!

v
--
https://www.thefarside.com/

[Ahem A Rivet's Shot]

On Sat, 14 Oct 2023 06:59:19 -0500
vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:

> No offense, but I'm reminded of a T-shirt that a friend once had -
> "Engineer - always solving problems you didn't know you had, in ways you
> can't understand." ;D

None taken - when I first encountered it I spent a while boggling
at the very idea. It turns out there's a reason for the standard but it's
not about making a perfect cup of tea it's about making tea in a *very*
standardised way so that different teas can be compared analytically and
different labs can get the same results.

Proper tea (not theft) should of course be made to the taste of the
drinker(s).

Many many years ago (don't ask how many) I spent time among a bunch
of students in York who's approach to brewing tea was a huge teapot which
*always* had tea available. Whenever it ran low they'd throw a few more bags
in and top it up with boiling water. Every few days, when the pile of bags
got too big to allow sufficient tea, they'd chuck them out and start again.
What it lacked in delicacy it made up in caffeine.

[vickiebee]

Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:

> On Sat, 14 Oct 2023 06:59:19 -0500 vickiebee
> <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> No offense, but I'm reminded of a T-shirt that a friend once had -
>> "Engineer - always solving problems you didn't know you had, in
>> ways you can't understand." ;D
>
> None taken - when I first encountered it I spent a while boggling at
> the very idea. It turns out there's a reason for the standard but
> it's not about making a perfect cup of tea it's about making tea in
> a *very* standardised way so that different teas can be compared
> analytically and different labs can get the same results.

~~~~
Poets and musicians used to be my heros, but now it's engineers and
scientists ... sez she with a worried eye cast toward El Nino and global
warming...
~~~~

>
> Proper tea (not theft) should of course be made to the taste of the
> drinker(s).
>
> Many many years ago (don't ask how many) I spent time among a bunch
> of students in York who's approach to brewing tea was a huge teapot
> which *always* had tea available. Whenever it ran low they'd throw a
> few more bags in and top it up with boiling water. Every few days,
> when the pile of bags got too big to allow sufficient tea, they'd
> chuck them out and start again. What it lacked in delicacy it made
> up in caffeine.
>

~~~~
Ick! Sounds like the coffee we had in my old office job in SoCal
- they kept adding new grounds on top of the old soggy ones. What's
ickier is we drank it!

vb - would like to share some of this "Skywalker" tea a friend gave me <g>
--
https://www.thefarside.com/

[RustyHinge]

Nothing to the tea at Pirbright Camp (Army) around 1955. "Got any
coffee?" asked one hopeful cadet.

Bloke dishing-out the 'food' jerked his thumb at an urn.

"Got any tea?" asks the next one.

Bloke dishing-out the 'food' jerked his thumb at an urn. The same one.

Whatever it was, it tasted neither of coffee nor of tea.

[vickiebee]

RustyHinge wrote:
> On 16/10/2023 00:58, vickiebee wrote:
>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:

[...]

>>>
>>> Many many years ago (don't ask how many) I spent time among a
>>> bunch of students in York who's approach to brewing tea was a
>>> huge teapot which *always* had tea available. Whenever it ran low
>>> they'd throw a few more bags in and top it up with boiling water.
>>> Every few days, when the pile of bags got too big to allow
>>> sufficient tea, they'd chuck them out and start again. What it
>>> lacked in delicacy it made up in caffeine.
>>>
>> ~~~~ Ick! Sounds like the coffee we had in my old office job in
>> SoCal - they kept adding new grounds on top of the old soggy ones.
>> What's ickier is we drank it!
>>
>>

> Nothing to the tea at Pirbright Camp (Army) around 1955. "Got any
> coffee?" asked one hopeful cadet.
>
> Bloke dishing-out the 'food' jerked his thumb at an urn.
>
> "Got any tea?" asks the next one.
>
> Bloke dishing-out the 'food' jerked his thumb at an urn. The same
> one.
>
> Whatever it was, it tasted neither of coffee nor of tea.
>

~~~
IJBOL - or "I just burst out laughing" — the new phrase many young
members of my family are using to describe something funny. They say LOL
is dead and IJBOL captures the feeling of going from quietly scrolling
to letting out a burst of laughter.

v - it was a small burst
--
https://www.thefarside.com/

[baz....@gmail.com]

On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 5:26:35 AM UTC-7, vickiebee wrote:
> This might not work, let me know.
>
> For those of you who care about such things, here is a page from an
> online ad in a local supermarket.
>
> I'd be interested in seeing one from yours.
>
> https://www.homelandstores.com/circulars/Page/4/Base/1/231004_HOME//
>
> v - BTW, I do not buy processed food
> --
> https://www.thefarside.com/


I don't buy processed food either and try to make most things from scratch. The links work for me :-)
It's very interesting to see prices in your area!
Here's a link to one of my local store flyers.
https://www.realcanadiansuperstore.ca/print-flyer?navid=flyout-L2-Flyer
Calculate the exchange from Canuvian dollars to USian dollars as our buck is only worth .73 cents to a US buck today.

Nice to "see" you Vickie!

--
Baz

[vickiebee]

~~~
Hey baz, good to see you TAAW (remember that?)! I've been gone and just
checked in - I'll enjoy looking at your supermarket ads, soon as I wind
down and catch up. Don't touch that dial!

viva-vickie

--
https://www.thefarside.com/

[Citizen Smith]

Sorry, V, I got distracted and then wandered off. Yes,
that's me. My missus was a nurse, now retired.

> I've now remembered that the Oregon Wolfie*
> posted mostly in fifty-plus-friends.
> Where did Sn!pe call you Wolfie/Foxy?

60+
The character whose nym I've acquired was called Wolfie
in the sitcom, and a running joke in it was his
girlfriend's mother would call him Foxy.

[Ben Newsam]

vickiebee wrote, though the Organization header says "A noiseless
patient Spider":

>This might not work, let me know.
>
>For those of you who care about such things, here is a page from an
>online ad in a local supermarket.
>
>I'd be interested in seeing one from yours.
>
>https://www.homelandstores.com/circulars/Page/4/Base/1/231004_HOME//
>
>v - BTW, I do not buy processed food

Unfortunately:

"Sorry, your request originates from IP address in blocked country."
--
Ben

[Ben Newsam]

vickiebee wrote, though the Organization header says "A noiseless
patient Spider":

>;) Good memories, you Brits sure did teach this cowgirl a lot... set me
>straight about KY jelly not being an English jam you put on toast.

Haha yes, I remember Kentucky jam! :-)
--
Ben

[Ben Newsam]

Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote, though the Organization header says "A
noiseless patient Spider":

>On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 05:12:16 -0500
>vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> when I researched "tea"
>
> Did you come across the (flawed*) standard for making tea BS6008 aka
>ISO-3103 ?
>
>http://www.gatsby.ucl.ac.uk/tea/tea_archive/attached_files/BS6008.pdf
>
>* It makes no mention of warming the pot - an objection raised by Ireland.

I remember an item on TV where a woman had won an award for making the
best cup of tea ever, so they sent a TV crew and interviewer to ask
her how she did it. It wasn't a secret. No pot warming or steeping or
nonsense like that, she just threw in six (yes, 6) tea bags (yes,
bags) in a normal sized enamel pot, poured in boiling water, and
poured the tea *straight away*. Who'd 'a thunk it?
--
Ben

[Ben Newsam]

RustyHinge wrote, though the Organization header says "Diss
Organisation":

>Nothing to the tea at Pirbright Camp (Army) around 1955. "Got any
>coffee?" asked one hopeful cadet.
>
>Bloke dishing-out the 'food' jerked his thumb at an urn.
>
>"Got any tea?" asks the next one.
>
>Bloke dishing-out the 'food' jerked his thumb at an urn. The same one.
>
>Whatever it was, it tasted neither of coffee nor of tea.

BTDTGTTS. Doing some work at Bassingbourn Barracks (where they train
the raw recruits by bullying them a bit) the NAAFI lady told me to get
tea or coffee from the two urns on a table. "Which is which?" I asked.
"I don't know", she replied, "There's no difference anyway".
--
Ben

[Sn!pe]

baz....@gmail.com <baz....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Nice to "see" you Vickie!
>
> --
> Baz
>

I am not Vickie, nor do I play her on TV,
but WTH, here's a [tsunami] to Bazzie. ≈:o)

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator.

My pet rock Gordon just said hi!

[RustyHinge]

My rifle club/association* shoots at Bassingbourn: thanks for the
warning - May cuminandhi if ever I manage to get there.

* Vintage Arms Association

[RustyHinge]

Understandable: didn't give the nasties in cheap tea time to overpower
the hot water.

https://rareteacompany.com/

[Ben Newsam]

RustyHinge wrote, though the Organization header says "Diss
Organisation":

>On 19/10/2023 01:37, Ben Newsam wrote:
>> RustyHinge wrote, though the Organization header says "Diss
>> Organisation":
>>> Nothing to the tea at Pirbright Camp (Army) around 1955. "Got any
>>> coffee?" asked one hopeful cadet.
>>>
>>> Bloke dishing-out the 'food' jerked his thumb at an urn.
>>>
>>> "Got any tea?" asks the next one.
>>>
>>> Bloke dishing-out the 'food' jerked his thumb at an urn. The same one.
>>>
>>> Whatever it was, it tasted neither of coffee nor of tea.
>>
>> BTDTGTTS. Doing some work at Bassingbourn Barracks (where they train
>> the raw recruits by bullying them a bit) the NAAFI lady told me to get
>> tea or coffee from the two urns on a table. "Which is which?" I asked.
>> "I don't know", she replied, "There's no difference anyway".
>>
>My rifle club/association* shoots at Bassingbourn: thanks for the
>warning - May cuminandhi if ever I manage to get there.
>
>* Vintage Arms Association

Speaking of vintage arms, I've been in the "bat cave" at Shrivenham
--
Ben

[vickiebee]

~~~~
Thanks for the peek into Canuck* grocery shopping Bazzie, I didn't get a
chance to look at a lot - took forever to DL - and math is not my strong
suit. I never did get to see the price of your butter and eggs. Here, we
are still paying almost $5 a lb. for butter, but eggs are very
reasonable now - $3.59 for 36 large. I don't eat a lot of meat so I have
eggs almost every day for protein.

The older I grow, the healthier my diet becomes. How about you?

Do you have any goss..uh, news about our ol' gang of caffers? What about
Halla, who used to be Lilith until she had twins? Is Bastard Bear still
kicking?

And what's new with you? Me? I had emergency gall bladder surgery the
end August. Happy Birfday to me.
v

* Hope that's not offensive - IIRC we used to joke about Muricans and
Canucks.
--
https://www.thefarside.com/

[vickiebee]

Citizen Smith wrote:
> vickiebee wrote:

[..]

>>>>>
>>>> ~~~ Uh... did you ever live in Oregon and grow pot for the
>>>> government? v
>>>
>>> LOL, yeah, that was me. The Scarlet Pimpernel. They seek him here,
>>> they seek him there...
>>>
>>> No, not really. I've never travelled to Westpondia, though I have
>>> grown a little weed strictly for research purposes <cough>.
>>>
>> ~~~
>> Haha, funny guy. Wait, I think I've almost "sussed" it - there is a
>> nurse in your family. Right?
>
> Sorry, V, I got distracted and then wandered off. Yes,
> that's me. My missus was a nurse, now retired.
>
>> I've now remembered that the Oregon Wolfie*
>> posted mostly in fifty-plus-friends.
>> Where did Sn!pe call you Wolfie/Foxy?
>
> 60+
> The character whose nym I've acquired was called Wolfie
> in the sitcom, and a running joke in it was his
> girlfriend's mother would call him Foxy.
>

~~~~
v ....gets distracted.... wanders off....................


--
https://www.thefarside.com/

[vickiebee]

~~~
;D Yep, I'll never forget the reaction of my grizzled old ranch hand
when I told him I was finding friends on line and learning about
different foods... that you had a special jelly, etc. He snorted and
almost choked on the cigarette he always had in the corner of his mouth.
v
--
https://www.thefarside.com/

[Ben Newsam]

Haha! I'm not surprised! lol
--
Ben

[Ben Newsam]

vickiebee wrote, though the Organization header says "A noiseless
patient Spider":

>Do you have any goss..uh, news about our ol' gang of caffers? What about
>Halla, who used to be Lilith until she had twins? Is Bastard Bear still
>kicking?

Fi (Halla) is alive and well, living in Galway in Ireland, and posting
often enough to the Facebook version of the caff. BB, on the other
hand, seems to have disappeared off the face of the map.
--
Ben

[Halla]

On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 12:16:47 PM UTC+1, Ben Newsam wrote:
> vickiebee wrote, though the Organization header says "A noiseless
> patient Spider":
> >Do you have any goss..uh, news about our ol' gang of caffers? What about
> >Halla, who used to be Lilith until she had twins? Is Bastard Bear still
> >kicking?
> Fi (Halla) is alive and well, living in Galway in Ireland, and posting
> often enough to the Facebook version of the caff.

I’m living in Dundalk as it happens. :) Home to a very tall god mural, amongst other things. Lurking via google froups roundup and occasionally figuring out how to get the damned thing to make a post for me dagnabbit. The twins will be 22 in November, by the by.

[Ben Newsam]

Halla wrote, though the Organization header says "":

:-)
--
Ben

[vickiebee]

Ben Newsam wrote:
> vickiebee wrote, though the Organization header says "A noiseless
> patient Spider":
>
>> Do you have any goss..uh, news about our ol' gang of caffers? What about
>> Halla, who used to be Lilith until she had twins? Is Bastard Bear still
>> kicking?
>
> Fi (Halla) is alive and well, living in Galway in Ireland, and posting
> often enough to the Facebook version of the caff.

~~~
Yes, I'm glad to see her message - sorry, but Usenet is as far as I
stray into
social media land.
~~~

BB, on the other
> hand, seems to have disappeared off the face of the map.
>

~~~
Oh dear, that's always scary news about a biker.

v - wondering about The Older Gentleman
--
https://www.thefarside.com/

[vickiebee]

~~~
There you are! Don't tell the others, or Cheerslove, but you were always
one of my very favorite posters... and it didn't have anything to do
with your Magic Biscuit Barrel. ;)

Sorry that it's taken me so long to reply - I have out-of-town family
visiting and they seem to resent my "holing with that dang computer" and
expecting them to amuse themselves. Imagine! ;)

Anyway, it's nice to 'see' you again ,and I hope everyone is doing
well... just saw a docu about Ireland on Public TV - gawd what a
beautiful place!

And the twins, 22, hush my mouth! I remember the night they were born.
IIRC, there were complications and Bastard Bear and I chatted back and
forth for hours until we heard that everything was okay.

Nothing much new with me... I'm still a widow... still alone, sort of
cursed... every good man I take up with dies of a heart attack.

v



--
https://www.thefarside.com/

[RustyHinge]

Sadly, I put that down to growth hormones, esp in beef. I'd stop eating
beef completely if there were any risk of it easing its way into UK's or
even Eu's food-chain.

Unless from trusted local butchers.

[vickiebee]

RustyHinge wrote:
> On 23/10/2023 01:25, vickiebee wrote:

[..]

>>
>> Nothing much new with me... I'm still a widow... still alone, sort of
>> cursed... every good man I take up with dies of a heart attack.
>>
>> v
>
> Sadly, I put that down to growth hormones, esp in beef. I'd stop eating
> beef completely if there were any risk of it easing its way into UK's or
> even Eu's food-chain.
>
> Unless from trusted local butchers.
>

~~~
Interesting... because I live smack dab in the middle of cattle country.
v
--
https://www.thefarside.com/

[Halla]

On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 4:14:14 PM UTC+1, vickiebee wrote:
> Ben Newsam wrote:
> > vickiebee wrote, though the Organization header says "A noiseless
> > patient Spider":
> >
> >> Do you have any goss..uh, news about our ol' gang of caffers? What about
> >> Halla, who used to be Lilith until she had twins? Is Bastard Bear still
> >> kicking?
> >
> > Fi (Halla) is alive and well, living in Galway in Ireland, and posting
> > often enough to the Facebook version of the caff.
> ~~~
> Yes, I'm glad to see her message - sorry, but Usenet is as far as I
> stray into
> social media land.

Can’t say I blame you. ;-D

> ~~~
> BB, on the other
> > hand, seems to have disappeared off the face of the map.
> >
> ~~~
> Oh dear, that's always scary news about a biker.
>

He blocked me years ago so I can’t see him at all but I do still sometimes see replies in comment threads which suggest he’s around and about. Haven’t seen any news to the contrary, anyway.

> v - wondering about The Older Gentleman

He passed away a year or so ago.

There’s a few other names I’m reminded of when any of the ‘Music to Watch Grills By’ songs play. Hope they’re all having a good time in RL-land. :-)

[Halla]

On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 1:25:16 AM UTC+1, vickiebee wrote:
> Halla wrote:
> > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 12:16:47 PM UTC+1, Ben Newsam wrote:
> >> vickiebee wrote, though the Organization header says "A noiseless
> >> patient Spider":
> >>> Do you have any goss..uh, news about our ol' gang of caffers?
> >>> What about Halla, who used to be Lilith until she had twins? Is
> >>> Bastard Bear still kicking?
> >> Fi (Halla) is alive and well, living in Galway in Ireland, and
> >> posting often enough to the Facebook version of the caff.
> >
> > I’m living in Dundalk as it happens. :) Home to a very tall god
> > mural, amongst other things. Lurking via google froups roundup and
> > occasionally figuring out how to get the damned thing to make a post
> > for me dagnabbit. The twins will be 22 in November, by the by.
> >
> ~~~
> There you are! Don't tell the others, or Cheerslove, but you were always
> one of my very favorite posters... and it didn't have anything to do
> with your Magic Biscuit Barrel. ;)
>

I believe you, thousands wouldn’t. ;)

> Sorry that it's taken me so long to reply - I have out-of-town family
> visiting and they seem to resent my "holing with that dang computer" and
> expecting them to amuse themselves. Imagine! ;)
>

The vey cheek.

> Anyway, it's nice to 'see' you again ,and I hope everyone is doing
> well... just saw a docu about Ireland on Public TV - gawd what a
> beautiful place!

In bits yeah. Bet it wasn’t about the midlands part, which seems to be acres and acres of used-to-be-peat, before the electricity board ploughed it up for fuel. Or the bits of the cities folk can’t afford to stay.

Dundalk has gorgeous scenery around, in fairness. Plus some lovely murals and we seem to have arrived when there’s repairs and regeneration going on. Some bloke called Biden popped by to see the ancestral places and all that. Place has never looked so clean. It’s kind of odd to me though because it’s a very Victorian town in places, whereas Galway is very Irish.

>
> And the twins, 22, hush my mouth! I remember the night they were born.
> IIRC, there were complications and Bastard Bear and I chatted back and
> forth for hours until we heard that everything was okay.
>

Aw, sweet of you. :) Yeah IIb wasn’t fussed with the whole ‘growing’ thing. She’s about the height of her sibling now though, eventually. Neither of them tall, looks like the tall Lyon genes were outnumbered by every other branch of the families. :)

> Nothing much new with me... I'm still a widow... still alone, sort of
> cursed... every good man I take up with dies of a heart attack.

Sorry to hear it. Are you still taking horses to drive throughs? Am I right remembering that was you?

[Julian Macassey]

On Sun, 22 Oct 2023 19:25:10 -0500, vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Nothing much new with me... I'm still a widow... still alone, sort of
> cursed... every good man I take up with dies of a heart attack.

You are obviously too good to them. Try not spoiling them
and getting them excited.

But good luck, try a young man, they need love and
attention too.


--
The NHS will last as long as there are folk left with faith to
fight for it. - Aneurin Bevan

[Julian Macassey]

On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 06:16:32 +0100, RustyHinge
<rusty...@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:

> Sadly, I put that down to growth hormones, esp in beef. I'd stop eating
> beef completely if there were any risk of it easing its way into UK's or
> even Eu's food-chain.

Stick to roadkill. You know it's provenenance, you get
to butcher it yourself so you get the best cuts.

> Unless from trusted local butchers.

Or a good local poacher. Why should the toffs get the
best game?

[RustyHinge]

On 24/10/2023 13:17, Julian Macassey wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 06:16:32 +0100, RustyHinge
> <rusty...@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Sadly, I put that down to growth hormones, esp in beef. I'd stop eating
>> beef completely if there were any risk of it easing its way into UK's or
>> even Eu's food-chain.
>
> Stick to roadkill. You know it's provenenance, you get
> to butcher it yourself so you get the best cuts.

Stuck in thiswheelchair and unable to cross the threshold safely even...

>> Unless from trusted local butchers.
>
> Or a good local poacher. Why should the toffs get the
> best game?

Asan ex-gamekeeper I don't get to hob-nob with any poachers. If you knew
how much the 'toffs' paid for the privelege of taking two or three birds
home at the end of a shoot you wouldn't ask that question. Any extra
game they pay arket price for.

And, you'd be surprised at the social diversity of many syndicates. The
captain of one I've worked unde is a jobbing builder.

[vickiebee]

Halla wrote:
> On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 4:14:14 PM UTC+1, vickiebee wrote:
>> Ben Newsam wrote:
>>> vickiebee wrote,
>>>

>>>> Do you have any goss..uh, news about our ol' gang of caffers?
>>>> What about Halla, who used to be Lilith until she had twins? Is
>>>> Bastard Bear still kicking?
>>>
>>> Fi (Halla) is alive and well, living in Galway in Ireland, and
>>> posting often enough to the Facebook version of the caff.

>> ~~~ BB, on the other
>>> hand, seems to have disappeared off the face of the map.
>>>
>> ~~~ Oh dear, that's always scary news about a biker.
>>
>
> He blocked me years ago so I can’t see him at all but I do still
> sometimes see replies in comment threads which suggest he’s around
> and about. Haven’t seen any news to the contrary, anyway.
>

~~~
Blocked, hmmm... well, he was always a bit of a diva... he sure liked to
'mouth off.'
~~~

>> v - wondering about The Older Gentleman
>
> He passed away a year or so ago.
>

~~~
Drat, sorry to hear that.
~~~

> There’s a few other names I’m reminded of when any of the ‘Music to
> Watch Grills By’ songs play. Hope they’re all having a good time in
> RL-land. :-)
>

~~~
I remember that CD that Mike the chef made. It was of all our favorite
songs... or songs from our yoof? I think I have a copy somewhere, and
wish them well TAAAW.

v
--
https://www.thefarside.com/

[Sn!pe]

vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:

> I remember that CD that Mike the chef made. It was of all our favorite
> songs... or songs from our yoof? I think I have a copy somewhere, and
> wish them well TAAAW.

Yes, I still have that too.

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator.

My pet rock Gordon just is.

[vickiebee]

Halla wrote:
> On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 1:25:16 AM UTC+1, vickiebee wrote:
>> Halla wrote:

[..]

>
> Dundalk has gorgeous scenery around, in fairness. Plus some lovely
> murals and we seem to have arrived when there’s repairs and
> regeneration going on. Some bloke called Biden popped by to see the
> ancestral places and all that. Place has never looked so

> clean........
>
~~~
Did he now... are we still friends?
~~~

>>
>> And the twins, 22, hush my mouth! I remember the night they were
>> born. IIRC, there were complications and Bastard Bear and I chatted
>> back and forth for hours until we heard that everything was okay.
>>
>
> Aw, sweet of you. :) Yeah IIb wasn’t fussed with the whole ‘growing’
> thing. She’s about the height of her sibling now though, eventually.
> Neither of them tall, looks like the tall Lyon genes were outnumbered
> by every other branch of the families. >

~~~
Bless you for raising twins... what a handful. I have high hopes for
this new generation from what I see in my family - idealistic,
compassionate and resilient.
~~~
>
> [..] Are you still taking horses to drive throughs? Am I right
> remembering that was you?
>
~~~
Heheh, yep, that was me alright, and my trusty little Arabian who was
game for anything I wanted. Though to be fair it was a fast food place
at the edge of town... didn't cause that many looks of surprise.

v - oh how I miss those days
--
https://www.thefarside.com/

[vickiebee]

Julian Macassey wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Oct 2023 19:25:10 -0500, vickiebee
> <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> Nothing much new with me... I'm still a widow... still alone, sort
>> of cursed... every good man I take up with dies of a heart attack.
>
> You are obviously too good to them. Try not spoiling them and getting
> them excited.
>

~~~
Hey there Julian, nice to see you here! I am a pleaser, just cain't help
mahself.
~~~

> But good luck, try a young man, they need love and attention too.
>

> ~~~
And looking for a Sugar Mama, no doubt.

;)
--
https://www.thefarside.com/

[vickiebee]

Sn!pe wrote:
> vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> I remember that CD that Mike the chef made. It was of all our
>> favorite songs... or songs from our yoof? I think I have a copy
>> somewhere, and wish them well TAAAW.
>
> Yes, I still have that too.
>

~~~
You TAAAW huh? How nice... I'll have to dig through all my old CDs ...
though sometimes nostalgia makes me sad.
v
--
https://www.thefarside.com/

[Ben Newsam]

RustyHinge wrote, though the Organization header says "Diss
Organisation":

>And, you'd be surprised at the social diversity of many syndicates. The
>captain of one I've worked unde is a jobbing builder.

I wouldn't be. The urge to kill things for pleasure goes right across
social boundaries.
--
Ben

[RustyHinge]

As does the human instinct to eat and provide, and not all humans are
veggies.

[Julian Macassey]

On Tue, 24 Oct 2023 18:00:54 +0100, RustyHinge

<rusty...@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
> On 24/10/2023 13:17, Julian Macassey wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 06:16:32 +0100, RustyHinge
>> <rusty...@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly, I put that down to growth hormones, esp in beef. I'd stop eating
>>> beef completely if there were any risk of it easing its way into UK's or
>>> even Eu's food-chain.
>>
>> Stick to roadkill. You know it's provenenance, you get
>> to butcher it yourself so you get the best cuts.
>
> Stuck in thiswheelchair and unable to cross the threshold safely even...

You could via the interwebs etc. put the word out,
"Freshly killed roadmeat greatfully recieved - no mustelids".

I have been told that hedgehog is pretty tasty and
bunnies are always good, fried or stewed.

>>> Unless from trusted local butchers.
>>
>> Or a good local poacher. Why should the toffs get the
>> best game?
>
> Asan ex-gamekeeper I don't get to hob-nob with any poachers.

There are I believe about 5,000 gamekeepers in the UK.
There are more poachers, so I'm sure if you ask around you can
find one or two.

Although poachers are looked down upon, they do less
damage to the environment than gamekeepers.

> If you knew how much the 'toffs' paid for the privelege of
> taking two or three birds home at the end of a shoot you
> wouldn't ask that question.

As a matter of fact I do, and I understand that raised
game is very expensive meat. It used to be "Up goes 30 shillings,
bang goes a shilling, down comes 10 shillings".

> And, you'd be surprised at the social diversity of many syndicates. The
> captain of one I've worked unde is a jobbing builder.

No, I am not surprised, I have known this for decades, my
mum even mentioned it to me.

Here's an article you won't enjoy:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/06/britain-open-season-pheasant-shooting-class-politics

And another:

https://www.rspb.org.uk/media-centre/illegal-killing-major-cause-of-hen-harrier-death-scotland

The source of the RSGB article:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-09044-w/

--
Germany is known as 'the land where Israelis learned their
manners'. - P. J. O'Rourke

[Julian Macassey]

On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 12:03:14 +0100, RustyHinge
<rusty...@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
> On 25/10/2023 02:15, Ben Newsam wrote:
>> RustyHinge wrote, though the Organization header says "Diss
>> Organisation":
>>
>>> And, you'd be surprised at the social diversity of many syndicates. The
>>> captain of one I've worked unde is a jobbing builder.
>>
>> I wouldn't be. The urge to kill things for pleasure goes right across
>> social boundaries.
>
> As does the human instinct to eat and provide, and not all humans are
> veggies.

Shooting driven game is not driven by the instinct to
eat and provide, it is driven by the urge to kill for pleasure.

Interestingly, your classic despised poacher is often
poaching to eat and provide.


--
"Once you've been to Cambodia, you'll never stop wanting to beat
Henry Kissinger to death with your bare hands." - Anthony Bourdain

[RustyHinge]

On 26/10/2023 11:24, Julian Macassey wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Oct 2023 18:00:54 +0100, RustyHinge
> <rusty...@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 24/10/2023 13:17, Julian Macassey wrote:
>>> On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 06:16:32 +0100, RustyHinge
>>> <rusty...@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sadly, I put that down to growth hormones, esp in beef. I'd stop eating
>>>> beef completely if there were any risk of it easing its way into UK's or
>>>> even Eu's food-chain.
>>>
>>> Stick to roadkill. You know it's provenenance, you get
>>> to butcher it yourself so you get the best cuts.
>>
>> Stuck in thiswheelchair and unable to cross the threshold safely even...
>
> You could via the interwebs etc. put the word out,
> "Freshly killed roadmeat greatfully recieved - no mustelids".

Stoatsand weasels sadly, *will* stand upright when overdriven, and one
often sees a pair of them lying in the road with bonked bonces.

>
> I have been told that hedgehog is pretty tasty and
> bunnies are always good, fried or stewed.

Years and years ago - well, 1958 to be more accurate, I was hiking in
that Scotland and lived for a fortnight on wild veg and fruit, roadkill
and the fruit of my fishing line (mainly eels, though my target was
brown trout) - "Och ye cannae eat those!"

Took soe stomach too: they wriggled when their headswere cut off, they
wriggled as they were skinned and their segments twitched in the pan for
awee while. But IMO they were delicious despite the Highlanders'
distaste for them.

Hares were ore often found than rabits as they have the habit of running
away down the road rather than off it, and their injuries were more
often than not the bonked bonce. Pity - I rather like hares alive. But
tasty, jugged.

>>>> Unless from trusted local butchers.
>>>
>>> Or a good local poacher. Why should the toffs get the
>>> best game?
>>
>> Asan ex-gamekeeper I don't get to hob-nob with any poachers.
>
> There are I believe about 5,000 gamekeepers in the UK.
> There are more poachers, so I'm sure if you ask around you can
> find one or two.

I've no doubt: I've poached a rabbit or two in my time. One of my
favourite friends as a teenager wasa Romany of my age, and he taught me
a poacher's pocket full of tricks.

> Although poachers are looked down upon, they do less
> damage to the environment than gamekeepers.

That depends on the gamekeeper. *Some* of them stick to the rules, maybe
even most. I deplore bad practices.

>> If you knew how much the 'toffs' paid for the privelege of
>> taking two or three birds home at the end of a shoot you
>> wouldn't ask that question.
>
> As a matter of fact I do, and I understand that raised
> game is very expensive meat. It used to be "Up goes 30 shillings,
> bang goes a shilling, down comes 10 shillings".

Up goes five pounds, bang goes ?p, down comes 15p more like.

One of my keeper friends gave me a lift home once, and in the back of
his brake was a bakers' tray of pheasants. "Going to the game-dealer's?"
I asked. "Just came back - oh those - they didn't want those at any
price. Too small. D'you want them. All? Save us dressing them." So I did
and put fifteen dressed pheasants in the freezer.

>
>> And, you'd be surprised at the social diversity of many syndicates. The
>> captain of one I've worked unde is a jobbing builder.
>
> No, I am not surprised, I have known this for decades, my
> mum even mentioned it to me.
>
> Here's an article you won't enjoy:
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/06/britain-open-season-pheasant-shooting-class-politics
>
> And another:
>
> https://www.rspb.org.uk/media-centre/illegal-killing-major-cause-of-hen-harrier-death-scotland
>
> The source of the RSGB article:
>
> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-09044-w/
>

I'll look at those later - carer just arrived.

[Sn!pe]

Julian Macassey <jul...@n6are.com> wrote:

[...]

> <https://www.rspb.org.uk/media-centre/illegal-killing-major-cause-of-hen-harrier-death-scotland>
>
> The source of the RSGB article:

[...]

Were they killed by wayward wireless waves? ≈:o) . . . IGMC...

[RustyHinge]

On 26/10/2023 11:30, Julian Macassey wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 12:03:14 +0100, RustyHinge
> <rusty...@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 25/10/2023 02:15, Ben Newsam wrote:
>>> RustyHinge wrote, though the Organization header says "Diss
>>> Organisation":
>>>
>>>> And, you'd be surprised at the social diversity of many syndicates. The
>>>> captain of one I've worked unde is a jobbing builder.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't be. The urge to kill things for pleasure goes right across
>>> social boundaries.
>>
>> As does the human instinct to eat and provide, and not all humans are
>> veggies.
>
> Shooting driven game is not driven by the instinct to
> eat and provide, it is driven by the urge to kill for pleasure.

Some say, and in many cases they might be right. I have never (had the
opportunity to) have shot driven game, but consider that most game thus
shot is killed instantly, and what is not is generally picked by the
pickers-up and their retrievers and despatched. Rough shooting OTOH
relies on the shooter to hunt-down injured game, which is generally
peppered up the raes. Driven birds are usually shot in the head and
leading parts.

> Interestingly, your classic despised poacher is often
> poaching to eat and provide.
>

Gamekeepers very often turn a blind eye to those. It's the organised
gangs who go out in a pick-up truck, with a lamper and someone with a
rifle, to shoot deer, not knowing WTF is behind their target, and not
caring, either - that We were after.

One lot had .driven to Norfolk from South Wales in a Land Rover with
false number-plates. Organised? Right model and décor, right aged
vehicle, and the registration a Norfolk one.

[Ben Newsam]

Julian Macassey wrote, though the Organization header says "Ned Lud's
Technology Museum":

>https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/06/britain-open-season-pheasant-shooting-class-politics

'“game” means animals you pay to kill, “vermin” are animals you pay
other people to kill'

Spot on.
--
Ben

[Kerr-Mudd, John]

Unspeakable.

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

[John Williamson]

To a farmer, a fox is vermin, while to the hunt, it is game. Just to
confuse things, a lot of farmers are members of the hunt...

Should farmers pay the hunt to get rid of foxes? Or should the hunt pay
the farmers to let them chase the wild foxes on their land?

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

[RustyHinge]

I'm foxed. By that I don't men faded and spotted with rusty blotches.
OTOH...

[Ahem A Rivet's Shot]

On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 15:52:25 +0100
Ben Newsam <gu...@bennewsam.co.uk> wrote:

> Julian Macassey wrote, though the Organization header says "Ned Lud's
> Technology Museum":
>
> >https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/06/britain-open-season-pheasant-shooting-class-politics
>
> '“game” means animals you pay to kill, “vermin” are animals you pay

Tut-tut - you have charset=ISO-8859-1 in the Content-Type header
but you're sending Win-1252 so your curly quotes don't work.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/
Host: Beautiful Theory meet Inconvenient Fact
Obit: Beautiful Theory died today of factual inconsistency