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vickiebee

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Dec 12, 2023, 4:38:41 AM12/12/23
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I read that a Sheddi was sick, he used a strange word.
"Lurgi, lurgy, or lurgie, as in 'the dreaded lurgi' – an unspecified
illness, often a cold or case of the flu. It first came to prominence in
The Goon Show, a 1950s radio comedy broadcast by the BBC." (My fiend
Google)

In Leftpondia we sometimes we call it "the Grippe"... which we ALL
lifted from the Serapu (bless 'em). Then along comes the Covids... or
Alien Death Flu, or Crottled Greeps....

v - confluezed

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Ahem A Rivet's Shot

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Dec 12, 2023, 6:30:04 AM12/12/23
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On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 03:38:37 -0600
vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:

> I read that a Sheddi was sick, he used a strange word.
> "Lurgi, lurgy, or lurgie, as in 'the dreaded lurgi' – an unspecified
> illness, often a cold or case of the flu. It first came to prominence in
> The Goon Show, a 1950s radio comedy broadcast by the BBC."

Many sheddi are familiar with the Goons - but I'm a little surprised
at them being implicated in that phrase. I thought it circulated widely in
WWII army circles, certainly my father used it and I don't recall him being
fond of the Goons.

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Adrian

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Dec 12, 2023, 10:29:45 AM12/12/23
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In message <20231212111728.1168...@eircom.net>, Ahem A
Rivet's Shot <ste...@eircom.net> writes
>On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 03:38:37 -0600
>vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> I read that a Sheddi was sick, he used a strange word.
>> "Lurgi, lurgy, or lurgie, as in 'the dreaded lurgi' – an unspecified
>> illness, often a cold or case of the flu. It first came to prominence in
>> The Goon Show, a 1950s radio comedy broadcast by the BBC."
>
> Many sheddi are familiar with the Goons - but I'm a little surprised
>at them being implicated in that phrase. I thought it circulated widely in
>WWII army circles, certainly my father used it and I don't recall him being
>fond of the Goons.
>

Bear in mind that all the Goons served in the forces (Milligan and
Secombe in the Army, Bentine and Sellers in the RAF), so they would no
doubt have been familiar with the concept of the Lurgi (dreaded or
otherwise), and various other forces "things". Adapting it for comedy
would have been straightforward.

Adrian
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Ahem A Rivet's Shot

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Dec 12, 2023, 1:00:04 PM12/12/23
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On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 15:19:54 +0000
Adrian <bul...@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:

> In message <20231212111728.1168...@eircom.net>, Ahem A
> Rivet's Shot <ste...@eircom.net> writes
> >On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 03:38:37 -0600
> >vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I read that a Sheddi was sick, he used a strange word.
> >> "Lurgi, lurgy, or lurgie, as in 'the dreaded lurgi' – an unspecified
> >> illness, often a cold or case of the flu. It first came to prominence
> >> in The Goon Show, a 1950s radio comedy broadcast by the BBC."
> >
> > Many sheddi are familiar with the Goons - but I'm a little
> > surprised
> >at them being implicated in that phrase. I thought it circulated widely
> >in WWII army circles, certainly my father used it and I don't recall him
> >being fond of the Goons.
> >
>
> Bear in mind that all the Goons served in the forces (Milligan and
> Secombe in the Army, Bentine and Sellers in the RAF), so they would no
> doubt have been familiar with the concept of the Lurgi (dreaded or
> otherwise), and various other forces "things". Adapting it for comedy
> would have been straightforward.

Of that I have no doubt - and all of them used forces things at
times in various contexts, after all it was something their early audiences
were all very familiar with.

vickiebee

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Dec 13, 2023, 4:48:56 PM12/13/23
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Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 15:19:54 +0000 Adrian <bul...@ku.gro.lioff>
> wrote:
>
>> In message <20231212111728.1168...@eircom.net>,
>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <ste...@eircom.net> writes
>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 03:38:37 -0600 vickiebee
>>> <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I read that a Sheddi was sick, he used a strange word. "Lurgi,
>>>> lurgy, or lurgie, as in 'the dreaded lurgi' – an unspecified
>>>> illness, often a cold or case of the flu. It first came to
>>>> prominence in The Goon Show, a 1950s radio comedy broadcast by
>>>> the BBC."
>>>
>>> Many sheddi are familiar with the Goons - but I'm a little
>>> surprised at them being implicated in that phrase. I thought it
>>> circulated widely in WWII army circles, certainly my father used
>>> it and I don't recall him being fond of the Goons.
>>>
>>
>> Bear in mind that all the Goons served in the forces (Milligan and
>> Secombe in the Army, Bentine and Sellers in the RAF), so they would
>> no doubt have been familiar with the concept of the Lurgi (dreaded
>> or otherwise), and various other forces "things". Adapting it for
>> comedy would have been straightforward.
>
> Of that I have no doubt - and all of them used forces things at times
> in various contexts, after all it was something their early
> audiences were all very familiar with.
>
```
Thanks fellas, here's what I found:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ALurgy

Sez:
"The Goons did not invent the term 'lurgy'"

Believe it or not, I remember Spike Milligan. As children we used to
sing the Chewing Gum/Bedpost song we'd hear on the radio.
```

https://www.oed.com/dictionary/lurgy_n?tl=true

This one sez:

"The earliest known use of the word lurgy is in the mid 1700s.

OED's earliest evidence for lurgy is from 1769, in the writing of
William Borlase, antiquary and naturalist."

```
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lurgy

Wiki sez:
"lurgi, lurgey, lurgee
Etymology
A nonce word popularized by Spike Milligan and Eric Sykes, scriptwriters
for a 9 November 1954 programme of The Goon Show, "Lurgi Strikes
Britain", in which Ned Seagoon must deal with a national outbreak of a
highly dangerous, highly infectious and — as it turns out — highly
fictitious disease known as the Dreaded Lurgi. Folk etymologies for this
word include:

--that it is a corruption and contraction of the term allergy. This is
not supported by the use of the hard /ɡ/ in lurgi (rhyming with Fergie),
as allergy has a soft 'g' /dʒ/.

--that it is based on the Northern English dialectal phrase fever-lurgy
(“lazy or idle”)."

A cousin has since informed me that our Scottish Gran sometimes used the
word, lurgy. Yet pronounced it with a hard "gee."

...now I have to go look up "nonce."

PS - Just wondering... did anyone see my post in here about cooking my
T-giving turkey upside down?
v
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Adrian

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Dec 13, 2023, 5:12:47 PM12/13/23
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In message <49763a2f-37da-eae8...@aol.com>, vickiebee
<prairied...@aol.com> writes

<big snip of interesting stuff>

>
>PS - Just wondering... did anyone see my post in here about cooking my
>T-giving turkey upside down?

Yes.

Howsomedever, I avoid turkey, I saw enough of them at jbex.

vickiebee

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Dec 13, 2023, 5:57:30 PM12/13/23
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Adrian wrote:
> In message <49763a2f-37da-eae8...@aol.com>, vickiebee
> <prairied...@aol.com> writes
>
> <big snip of interesting stuff>
>
>>
>> PS - Just wondering... did anyone see my post in here about cooking
>> my T-giving turkey upside down?
>
> Yes.
>
> Howsomedever, I avoid turkey, I saw enough of them at jbex.
>
> Adrian
```
Thanks Adrian, I'd read about missing posts, newsreader glitches, etc.
... was hoping that was the reason and not that it was just plain flat
out ignored.
;)

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Julian Macassey

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Dec 13, 2023, 6:37:38 PM12/13/23
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On Wed, 13 Dec 2023 15:48:51 -0600, vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Believe it or not, I remember Spike Milligan. As children we used to
> sing the Chewing Gum/Bedpost song we'd hear on the radio.
> ```

Not Spike Milligan, but Lonnie Donegan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Does_Your_Chewing_Gum_Lose_Its_Flavour_(On_the_Bedpost_Overnight%3F)

+ "Does Your Chewing Gum Lose Its Flavour (On the Bedpost Overnight?)"
+ is a novelty song by Lonnie Donegan. Released as a single in 1959, it
+ entered the UK Singles Chart on 6 February 1959 and peaked at number
+ three.[2] It was also Donegan's greatest chart success in the United
+ States, reaching number five on the Billboard Hot 100 chart in 1961.

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Adrian

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Dec 13, 2023, 7:02:50 PM12/13/23
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In message <621a4eca-c5bb-57f5...@aol.com>, vickiebee
<prairied...@aol.com> writes
>Thanks Adrian, I'd read about missing posts, newsreader glitches, etc.
>... was hoping that was the reason and not that it was just plain flat
>out ignored.

I think (but could be wrong) that the missing posts are posted via
google groups.

Ben Newsam

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Dec 14, 2023, 2:34:36 AM12/14/23
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vickiebee wrote, though the Organization header says "A noiseless
patient Spider":
The "dreaded Lurgi" was a fictional disease that appeared in an
episode of The Goon Show on the radio in 1954. It's in my archive:

http://www.bennewsam.co.uk/documents/Goons/Goon%20Show%20-%20s05e07%20-%2054-11-09%20-%20Lurgi%20Strikes%20Britain.mp3

For some reason it has grpped the national imagination ever since.
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Ben Newsam

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Dec 14, 2023, 2:40:30 AM12/14/23
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vickiebee wrote, though the Organization header says "A noiseless
patient Spider":

>A nonce word popularized by Spike Milligan and Eric Sykes, scriptwriters
>for a 9 November 1954 programme of The Goon Show, "Lurgi Strikes
>Britain", in which Ned Seagoon must deal with a national outbreak of a
>highly dangerous, highly infectious and — as it turns out — highly
>fictitious disease known as the Dreaded Lurgi.

Anyone wanting to hear the old Goon Shows (or other radio shows, old
and new) can do so at my archive at
http://www.bennewsam.co.uk/Goonss.shtml
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Chris Elvidge

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Dec 14, 2023, 8:09:23 AM12/14/23
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On 13/12/2023 23:37, Julian Macassey wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Dec 2023 15:48:51 -0600, vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> Believe it or not, I remember Spike Milligan. As children we used to
>> sing the Chewing Gum/Bedpost song we'd hear on the radio.
>> ```
>
> Not Spike Milligan, but Lonnie Donegan
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Does_Your_Chewing_Gum_Lose_Its_Flavour_(On_the_Bedpost_Overnight%3F)
>
> + "Does Your Chewing Gum Lose Its Flavour (On the Bedpost Overnight?)"
> + is a novelty song by Lonnie Donegan. Released as a single in 1959, it
> + entered the UK Singles Chart on 6 February 1959 and peaked at number
> + three.[2] It was also Donegan's greatest chart success in the United
> + States, reaching number five on the Billboard Hot 100 chart in 1961.
>

You missed out the bit about being originally "spearmint" not "chewing
gum" - changed because advertising - first released in 1924


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vickiebee

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Dec 15, 2023, 7:28:02 PM12/15/23
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Adrian wrote:
> In message <49763a2f-37da-eae8...@aol.com>, vickiebee
> <prairied...@aol.com> writes
>
> <big snip of interesting stuff>
>
>>
>> PS - Just wondering... did anyone see my post in here about cooking
>> my T-giving turkey upside down?
>
> Yes.
>
```
Well then, I guess you saw the one where I got into a big fight with the
mailman in the front yard and bit his ankle because he hasn't picked up
my dang mail for 3 days!
v

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Adrian

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Dec 16, 2023, 7:01:45 AM12/16/23
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In message <ef0a8a4e-8817-4d15...@aol.com>, vickiebee
<prairied...@aol.com> writes
>Well then, I guess you saw the one where I got into a big fight with the
>mailman in the front yard and bit his ankle because he hasn't picked up
>my dang mail for 3 days!

If you are biting the mail man, that might be why he isn't keen on
collecting mail. :-)

vickiebee

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Dec 16, 2023, 7:15:41 AM12/16/23
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Adrian wrote:
> In message <ef0a8a4e-8817-4d15...@aol.com>, vickiebee
> <prairied...@aol.com> writes
>> Well then, I guess you saw the one where I got into a big fight
>> with the mailman in the front yard and bit his ankle because he
>> hasn't picked up my dang mail for 3 days!
>
> If you are biting the mail man, that might be why he isn't keen on
> collecting mail. :-)
>
>
> Adrian
```
LOL! Point taken... it was really a stray dog, but he deserved it
because he is the worst mailman ever... dog or no dog.
v
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vickiebee

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Dec 16, 2023, 4:11:50 PM12/16/23
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```
Oh BTW, I was just teasing to see if anyone reads 2eggs any more. It is
true that a dog did nip at my mailman, who has been lazy about picking
up mail for eons.

v - if only sarcasm could burn calories
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Adrian

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Dec 16, 2023, 4:32:03 PM12/16/23
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In message <ull3qj$2i8o6$1...@dont-email.me>, vickiebee
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Over here, you usually have to take your mail to a post box for it to be
collected.

Tease'n'Seize

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Dec 17, 2023, 4:22:37 AM12/17/23
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Adrian wrote:

> Over here, you usually have to take your mail to a post box for it to be
> collected.

I always imagined that little red flag you see on leftpondian mailboxes
meant the postie had delivered an item to you, but apparently it means
you have put an item inside for the postie to collect ...


Julian Macassey

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Dec 17, 2023, 4:59:06 AM12/17/23
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In the rest of the world, anyone can put anything into your
postbox or letter slot, but not in Freedom loving Murrica, only the
US Postal Service can put stuff in your postbox, even though you
bought it and installed it, you can't decide who deposits into it.

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vickiebee

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Dec 18, 2023, 2:56:32 AM12/18/23
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Adrian wrote:
> In message <ull3qj$2i8o6$1...@dont-email.me>, vickiebee
> <prairied...@aol.com> writes
[...]
>> Oh BTW, I was just teasing to see if anyone reads 2eggs any more. It is
>> true that a dog did nip at my mailman, who has been lazy about picking
>> up mail for eons.
>>
>> v - if only sarcasm could burn calories
>
>
> Over here, you usually have to take your mail to a post box for it to be
> collected.
>
> Adrian
```
We have those as well - big steel blue USPS boxes - stationed around the
city at convenient places, like supermarkets, shopping malls, etc.
However, we have always been able to mail letters from our houses.
v

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Ben Newsam

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Dec 24, 2023, 7:51:17 AM12/24/23
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Adrian wrote, though the Organization header says "Occasionally":

>In message <ull3qj$2i8o6$1...@dont-email.me>, vickiebee
><prairied...@aol.com> writes
>>vickiebee wrote:
>>> Adrian wrote:
>>>> In message <ef0a8a4e-8817-4d15...@aol.com>, vickiebee
>>>><prairied...@aol.com> writes
>>>>> Well then, I guess you saw the one where I got into a big fight
>>>>>with the mailman in the front yard and bit his ankle because he
>>>>>hasn't picked up my dang mail for 3 days!
>>>> If you are biting the mail man, that might be why he isn't keen on
>>>>collecting mail. :-)
>>>> Adrian
>>> ``` LOL! Point taken... it was really a stray dog, but he deserved it
>>> because he is the worst mailman ever... dog or no dog. v
>>```
>>Oh BTW, I was just teasing to see if anyone reads 2eggs any more. It is
>>true that a dog did nip at my mailman, who has been lazy about picking
>>up mail for eons.
>>
>>v - if only sarcasm could burn calories
>
>
>Over here, you usually have to take your mail to a post box for it to be
>collected.

Not any more. The Post Office do collections (usually the regular
postman) but you have to arrange it in advance. At the moment I don't
use that service much, I print a stamp and drop it in one of the many
post boxes round here.
>
>Adrian
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Adrian

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Dec 24, 2023, 8:11:41 AM12/24/23
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In message <86agoihaha732kpbd...@4ax.com>, Ben Newsam
<gu...@bennewsam.co.uk> writes
>Adrian wrote, though the Organization header says "Occasionally":
>
>>Over here, you usually have to take your mail to a post box for it to be
>>collected.
>
>Not any more. The Post Office do collections (usually the regular
>postman) but you have to arrange it in advance. At the moment I don't
>use that service much, I print a stamp and drop it in one of the many
>post boxes round here.

Hence my use of "usually".

Michael Harrison

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Dec 28, 2023, 2:13:23 AM12/28/23
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On Sun, 24 Dec 2023 12:51:07 +0000, Ben Newsam wrote:

> Adrian wrote, though the Organization header says "Occasionally":
>
>>In message <ull3qj$2i8o6$1...@dont-email.me>, vickiebee
>><prairied...@aol.com> writes
>>>vickiebee wrote:
>>>> Adrian wrote:
>>>>> In message <ef0a8a4e-8817-4d15...@aol.com>, vickiebee
>>>>><prairied...@aol.com> writes
>>>>> Adrian
>>>```
>>>Oh BTW, I was just teasing to see if anyone reads 2eggs any more. It is
>>>true that a dog did nip at my mailman, who has been lazy about picking
>>>up mail for eons.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Over here, you usually have to take your mail to a post box for it to be
>>collected.
>
> Not any more. The Post Office do collections (usually the regular
> postman) but you have to arrange it in advance. At the moment I don't
> use that service much, I print a stamp and drop it in one of the many
> post boxes round here.
>>
>>Adrian
Just bought myself some printable sticky labels for stamp-printing.
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