Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 15:19:54 +0000 Adrian <bul...@ku.gro.lioff>
> wrote:
>
>> In message <
20231212111728.1168...@eircom.net>,
>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <
ste...@eircom.net> writes
>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 03:38:37 -0600 vickiebee
>>> <
prairied...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I read that a Sheddi was sick, he used a strange word. "Lurgi,
>>>> lurgy, or lurgie, as in 'the dreaded lurgi' – an unspecified
>>>> illness, often a cold or case of the flu. It first came to
>>>> prominence in The Goon Show, a 1950s radio comedy broadcast by
>>>> the BBC."
>>>
>>> Many sheddi are familiar with the Goons - but I'm a little
>>> surprised at them being implicated in that phrase. I thought it
>>> circulated widely in WWII army circles, certainly my father used
>>> it and I don't recall him being fond of the Goons.
>>>
>>
>> Bear in mind that all the Goons served in the forces (Milligan and
>> Secombe in the Army, Bentine and Sellers in the RAF), so they would
>> no doubt have been familiar with the concept of the Lurgi (dreaded
>> or otherwise), and various other forces "things". Adapting it for
>> comedy would have been straightforward.
>
> Of that I have no doubt - and all of them used forces things at times
> in various contexts, after all it was something their early
> audiences were all very familiar with.
>
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Thanks fellas, here's what I found:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ALurgy
Sez:
"The Goons did not invent the term 'lurgy'"
Believe it or not, I remember Spike Milligan. As children we used to
sing the Chewing Gum/Bedpost song we'd hear on the radio.
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https://www.oed.com/dictionary/lurgy_n?tl=true
This one sez:
"The earliest known use of the word lurgy is in the mid 1700s.
OED's earliest evidence for lurgy is from 1769, in the writing of
William Borlase, antiquary and naturalist."
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https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lurgy
Wiki sez:
"lurgi, lurgey, lurgee
Etymology
A nonce word popularized by Spike Milligan and Eric Sykes, scriptwriters
for a 9 November 1954 programme of The Goon Show, "Lurgi Strikes
Britain", in which Ned Seagoon must deal with a national outbreak of a
highly dangerous, highly infectious and — as it turns out — highly
fictitious disease known as the Dreaded Lurgi. Folk etymologies for this
word include:
--that it is a corruption and contraction of the term allergy. This is
not supported by the use of the hard /ɡ/ in lurgi (rhyming with Fergie),
as allergy has a soft 'g' /dʒ/.
--that it is based on the Northern English dialectal phrase fever-lurgy
(“lazy or idle”)."
A cousin has since informed me that our Scottish Gran sometimes used the
word, lurgy. Yet pronounced it with a hard "gee."
...now I have to go look up "nonce."
PS - Just wondering... did anyone see my post in here about cooking my
T-giving turkey upside down?
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