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RustyHinge
Oct 2, 2023, 2:59:26 PM10/2/23
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One for Snipe, this: crosspost u.r.g/a.2.e.s.b.t.2t.lt.cl
Carer brought the shopping home: I'd got shallots on the list and my
first reaction to the bag of bulbs was: "They're pickling On!ons, not
shallots!
On!on-shaped to a 't' - round and dumpy, they were On!on-shaped, not the
long, sometimes slightly curved clumped pointy things *I* call 'shallots'.
But, from Wicked Pædia:
"The shallot is a botanical variety (a cultivar) of the onion. Until
2010, the (French red) shallot was classified as a separate species,
Allium ascalonicum. The taxon was synonymized with Allium cepa (the
common onion) in 2010, as the difference was too small to justify a
separate species.
As part of the onion genus Allium, its close relatives include garlic,
scallions, leeks, chives, and the Chinese onion."
To me, the shallot has a distinctive growth-pattern reminiscent of
garlic bulbs, without the sheath of dead outside layers which embrace
'El Spanielbreath'.
Show me a plot of those and I think "Shallots" not "Onions".
I don't know the criteria for separating species, but IMO the French
Shallot is sufficiently different in shape, growth pattern, flavour and
appearance to justify separation from Allium cepa.
Puts me in mind of the taxonomical stir in the classification of many
fungi - they seem to leap not only in specific name but often from genus
to genus - qv Rhodocybe gemina...
Does the team think some taxonomists are trying to make a name for
themselves? The field of mycology is littered with specific names
attended by asides indicating the 'authority' of the namer.
Comments solicited.
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To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.
Carer brought the shopping home: I'd got shallots on the list and my
first reaction to the bag of bulbs was: "They're pickling On!ons, not
shallots!
On!on-shaped to a 't' - round and dumpy, they were On!on-shaped, not the
long, sometimes slightly curved clumped pointy things *I* call 'shallots'.
But, from Wicked Pædia:
"The shallot is a botanical variety (a cultivar) of the onion. Until
2010, the (French red) shallot was classified as a separate species,
Allium ascalonicum. The taxon was synonymized with Allium cepa (the
common onion) in 2010, as the difference was too small to justify a
separate species.
As part of the onion genus Allium, its close relatives include garlic,
scallions, leeks, chives, and the Chinese onion."
To me, the shallot has a distinctive growth-pattern reminiscent of
garlic bulbs, without the sheath of dead outside layers which embrace
'El Spanielbreath'.
Show me a plot of those and I think "Shallots" not "Onions".
I don't know the criteria for separating species, but IMO the French
Shallot is sufficiently different in shape, growth pattern, flavour and
appearance to justify separation from Allium cepa.
Puts me in mind of the taxonomical stir in the classification of many
fungi - they seem to leap not only in specific name but often from genus
to genus - qv Rhodocybe gemina...
Does the team think some taxonomists are trying to make a name for
themselves? The field of mycology is littered with specific names
attended by asides indicating the 'authority' of the namer.
Comments solicited.
--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.
tahiri
Oct 2, 2023, 4:01:21 PM10/2/23
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occasional batch of shallots that were round and dumpy like onions. I
certainly remember some big onions that were all stretched out like
shallots. I suspect the whole family are a bit unpredictable in
appearance and what you get depends how fussy about appearance they get
in the receiving warehouse.
Sn!pe
Oct 2, 2023, 10:32:26 PM10/2/23
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for the interloper, garlic [spit], which IMO is the Spawn of Stan.
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RustyHinge
Oct 3, 2023, 12:16:30 AM10/3/23
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no-no, but I grew vwiser and began to appreciate it in proportions that
would be admired by a Frenchperson or a Spaniard.
Last week I fried a small tear-jerking On!on with some chopped celery
and two small, chopped plump cloves of Garl!c.
Eggs is the spawn of Stan.
Kerr-Mudd, John
Oct 3, 2023, 4:17:19 AM10/3/23
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Bah, and indeed Humbug.
RustyHinge
Oct 3, 2023, 4:36:14 AM10/3/23
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Vir Campestris
Oct 3, 2023, 5:59:32 AM10/3/23
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On 03/10/2023 05:16, RustyHinge wrote:
>>
> Whereas, when I was young and foolish the merest wipe of garlic was a
> no-no, but I grew vwiser and began to appreciate it in proportions that
> would be admired by a Frenchperson or a Spaniard.
>
If your friends don't like garlic get new friends.
>>
> Whereas, when I was young and foolish the merest wipe of garlic was a
> no-no, but I grew vwiser and began to appreciate it in proportions that
> would be admired by a Frenchperson or a Spaniard.
>
(Possibly after Diat, but I'm not sure!)
> Last week I fried a small tear-jerking On!on with some chopped celery
> and two small, chopped plump cloves of Garl!c.
>
> Eggs is the spawn of Stan.
With you there. My mother tried to wean me on eggs, and I spat them out.
> and two small, chopped plump cloves of Garl!c.
>
> Eggs is the spawn of Stan.
I can tolerate them in cooking in small quantities, but that's about it.
Andy
vickiebee
Oct 3, 2023, 6:59:46 AM10/3/23
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RustyHinge wrote:
[...]
"If you’ve never learned how to roast garlic, then you are in for a real
treat. While raw garlic is known for its pungent flavor, once roasted,
this aromatic ingredient mellows out into a wonderfully sweet and
caramelized, soft, buttery ingredient to mix and spread. You might even
find yourself eating it straight from the oven (I won’t blame you!)...."
https://www.alphafoodie.com/how-to-roast-garlic-in-the-oven/
v
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[...]
> Whereas, when I was young and foolish the merest wipe of garlic was a
> no-no, but I grew vwiser and began to appreciate it in proportions
> that would be admired by a Frenchperson or a Spaniard.
>
~~~
> no-no, but I grew vwiser and began to appreciate it in proportions
> that would be admired by a Frenchperson or a Spaniard.
>
"If you’ve never learned how to roast garlic, then you are in for a real
treat. While raw garlic is known for its pungent flavor, once roasted,
this aromatic ingredient mellows out into a wonderfully sweet and
caramelized, soft, buttery ingredient to mix and spread. You might even
find yourself eating it straight from the oven (I won’t blame you!)...."
https://www.alphafoodie.com/how-to-roast-garlic-in-the-oven/
v
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The Natural Philosopher
Oct 3, 2023, 7:32:10 AM10/3/23
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Milk however....
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Chris Green
Oct 3, 2023, 7:48:04 AM10/3/23
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vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:
> RustyHinge wrote:
> [...]
> > Whereas, when I was young and foolish the merest wipe of garlic was a
> > no-no, but I grew vwiser and began to appreciate it in proportions
> > that would be admired by a Frenchperson or a Spaniard.
> >
> ~~~
> "If you’ve never learned how to roast garlic, then you are in for a real
> treat. While raw garlic is known for its pungent flavor, once roasted,
> this aromatic ingredient mellows out into a wonderfully sweet and
> caramelized, soft, buttery ingredient to mix and spread. You might even
> find yourself eating it straight from the oven (I won’t blame you!)...."
>
Isn't that what one does to garlic most of the time? For example we
> RustyHinge wrote:
> [...]
> > Whereas, when I was young and foolish the merest wipe of garlic was a
> > no-no, but I grew vwiser and began to appreciate it in proportions
> > that would be admired by a Frenchperson or a Spaniard.
> >
> ~~~
> "If you’ve never learned how to roast garlic, then you are in for a real
> treat. While raw garlic is known for its pungent flavor, once roasted,
> this aromatic ingredient mellows out into a wonderfully sweet and
> caramelized, soft, buttery ingredient to mix and spread. You might even
> find yourself eating it straight from the oven (I won’t blame you!)...."
>
have a 'garlic chicken' recipe that is simply chicken pieces baked in
the oven in a tray with some olive oil and pieces of garlic (plus
lemon and maybe some basil). As you say the garlic becomes quite
mellow. This is surely the way garlic works! :-)
--
Chris Green
·
RustyHinge
Oct 3, 2023, 9:18:26 AM10/3/23
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On 03/10/2023 10:59, Vir Campestris wrote:
greedy and make a batch with two eggs, it's a waste of time, flour,
eggs, milk &c 'cos it all gets regurglekated.
Bald egg, Fri degg, scrambled egg, omeletegg, etc = instant projectile v.
RustyHinge
Oct 3, 2023, 9:20:45 AM10/3/23
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Vir Campestris
Oct 3, 2023, 4:05:38 PM10/3/23
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On 03/10/2023 12:32, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> Crikey. Eggs is manna from heaven.
> Milk however....
"One man's cheese is another man's rotten milk" (Niven)
> Crikey. Eggs is manna from heaven.
> Milk however....
Andy
vickiebee
Oct 4, 2023, 5:07:36 AM10/4/23
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Chris Green wrote:
> vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:
[..]
Your garlic chicken recipe sounds good, especially teamed up with lemon
and basil. I cook a lot of oriental stir-fry dishes using raw garlic,
which is usually crushed under the side of a knife. Roasted garlic is so
sweet that I like to make a thin paste of it on toasted bread with Italian
Bolognese.
v - bacon-eating vegetarian in Oklahomastan
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> vickiebee <prairied...@aol.com> wrote:
[..]
>>
>> "If you’ve never learned how to roast garlic, then you are in for
>> a real treat. While raw garlic is known for its pungent flavor,
>> once roasted, this aromatic ingredient mellows out into a
>> wonderfully sweet and caramelized, soft, buttery ingredient to mix
>> and spread. You might even find yourself eating it straight from
>> the oven (I won’t blame you!)...."
>>
> Isn't that what one does to garlic most of the time? For example we
> have a 'garlic chicken' recipe that is simply chicken pieces baked
> in the oven in a tray with some olive oil and pieces of garlic (plus
> lemon and maybe some basil). As you say the garlic becomes quite
> mellow. This is surely the way garlic works! :-)
>
~~~
>> "If you’ve never learned how to roast garlic, then you are in for
>> a real treat. While raw garlic is known for its pungent flavor,
>> once roasted, this aromatic ingredient mellows out into a
>> wonderfully sweet and caramelized, soft, buttery ingredient to mix
>> and spread. You might even find yourself eating it straight from
>> the oven (I won’t blame you!)...."
>>
> Isn't that what one does to garlic most of the time? For example we
> have a 'garlic chicken' recipe that is simply chicken pieces baked
> in the oven in a tray with some olive oil and pieces of garlic (plus
> lemon and maybe some basil). As you say the garlic becomes quite
> mellow. This is surely the way garlic works! :-)
>
Your garlic chicken recipe sounds good, especially teamed up with lemon
and basil. I cook a lot of oriental stir-fry dishes using raw garlic,
which is usually crushed under the side of a knife. Roasted garlic is so
sweet that I like to make a thin paste of it on toasted bread with Italian
Bolognese.
v - bacon-eating vegetarian in Oklahomastan
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RustyHinge
Oct 4, 2023, 5:26:30 AM10/4/23
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go with my sausage palm.
Ahem A Rivet's Shot
Oct 4, 2023, 1:30:10 PM10/4/23
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RustyHinge
Oct 4, 2023, 1:42:36 PM10/4/23
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On 04/10/2023 18:19, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 10:26:27 +0100
> RustyHinge <rusty...@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 04/10/2023 10:07, vickiebee wrote:
>
>>> v - bacon-eating vegetarian in Oklahomastan
>>
>> OK OKie. What part of the Bacontree do rashers come from? I want one to
>> go with my sausage palm.
>
> I think she's telling porkers.
Nope. You might goo- er - think so if you've not encountered v. Just
> On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 10:26:27 +0100
> RustyHinge <rusty...@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 04/10/2023 10:07, vickiebee wrote:
>
>>> v - bacon-eating vegetarian in Oklahomastan
>>
>> OK OKie. What part of the Bacontree do rashers come from? I want one to
>> go with my sausage palm.
>
> I think she's telling porkers.
expect the unexpected when you do. But always worth the effort.
<FX waves to v.>
Adrian
Oct 4, 2023, 2:18:29 PM10/4/23
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In message <ufja0l$3aqb$1...@dont-email.me>, vickiebee
<prairied...@aol.com> writes
Waves to V
Adrian
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<prairied...@aol.com> writes
>v - bacon-eating vegetarian in Oklahomastan
>
Ooh, I used to know the British version of one of those.
>
Waves to V
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vickiebee
Oct 5, 2023, 6:15:55 AM10/5/23
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RustyHinge wrote:
> On 04/10/2023 10:07, vickiebee wrote:
[..]
> On 04/10/2023 10:07, vickiebee wrote:
>> v - bacon-eating vegetarian in Oklahomastan
>
> OK OKie. What part of the Bacontree do rashers come from? I want one
> to go with my sausage palm.
>
~~~
>
> OK OKie. What part of the Bacontree do rashers come from? I want one
> to go with my sausage palm.
>
;D I've heard it all. My true veggie friends keep warning me that bacon
is a gateway meat to Filet Mignon... but they're wrong. I do not hanker
for great hunks of rare beef on my plate. There's just something
seductive about the smell of bacon frying that tantalizes my brain.
v - happy Bacontarian
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vickiebee
Oct 5, 2023, 6:19:53 AM10/5/23
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Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 10:26:27 +0100
> RustyHinge <rusty...@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 04/10/2023 10:07, vickiebee wrote:
>
>>> v - bacon-eating vegetarian in Oklahomastan
>>
>> OK OKie. What part of the Bacontree do rashers come from? I want one to
>> go with my sausage palm.
>
> I think she's telling porkers.
>
~~~
> RustyHinge <rusty...@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 04/10/2023 10:07, vickiebee wrote:
>
>>> v - bacon-eating vegetarian in Oklahomastan
>>
>> OK OKie. What part of the Bacontree do rashers come from? I want one to
>> go with my sausage palm.
>
> I think she's telling porkers.
>
Hello Irish! You'd certainly be an expert on porkers. ;D
v
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vickiebee
Oct 5, 2023, 6:24:52 AM10/5/23
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RustyHinge wrote:
> On 04/10/2023 18:19, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 10:26:27 +0100 RustyHinge
>> <rusty...@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/10/2023 10:07, vickiebee wrote:
>>
>>>> v - bacon-eating vegetarian in Oklahomastan
>>>
>>> OK OKie. What part of the Bacontree do rashers come from? I want
>>> one to go with my sausage palm.
>>
>> I think she's telling porkers.
>
> Nope. You might goo- er - think so if you've not encountered v. Just
> expect the unexpected when you do. But always worth the effort.
>
> <FX waves to v.>
>
~~~
> On 04/10/2023 18:19, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 10:26:27 +0100 RustyHinge
>> <rusty...@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/10/2023 10:07, vickiebee wrote:
>>
>>>> v - bacon-eating vegetarian in Oklahomastan
>>>
>>> OK OKie. What part of the Bacontree do rashers come from? I want
>>> one to go with my sausage palm.
>>
>> I think she's telling porkers.
>
> Nope. You might goo- er - think so if you've not encountered v. Just
> expect the unexpected when you do. But always worth the effort.
>
> <FX waves to v.>
>
Yeahbut you have to wade through a lot of rkgenarbhf penc to get to it.
Thank you Rusty... I think...
v
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vickiebee
Oct 5, 2023, 6:27:48 AM10/5/23
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Adrian wrote:
> In message <ufja0l$3aqb$1...@dont-email.me>, vickiebee
> <prairied...@aol.com> writes
>> v - bacon-eating vegetarian in Oklahomastan
>>
>
>
> Ooh, I used to know the British version of one of those.
>
> Waves to V
>
> Adrian
~~~
> In message <ufja0l$3aqb$1...@dont-email.me>, vickiebee
> <prairied...@aol.com> writes
>> v - bacon-eating vegetarian in Oklahomastan
>>
>
>
> Ooh, I used to know the British version of one of those.
>
> Waves to V
>
> Adrian
Hey Adrian, yes, our numbers are growing! OMG - have you ever tasted
chocolate-covered bacon?
v
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Adrian
Oct 5, 2023, 8:32:48 AM10/5/23
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In message <ufm332$t915$1...@dont-email.me>, vickiebee
<prairied...@aol.com> writes
like the smell, but not the taste. I have a fiend who is the same with
coffee.
<prairied...@aol.com> writes
>Hey Adrian, yes, our numbers are growing! OMG - have you ever tasted
>chocolate-covered bacon?
This is probably heresy in these parts, but no. I'm not a bacon fan, I
>chocolate-covered bacon?
like the smell, but not the taste. I have a fiend who is the same with
coffee.
Kerr-Mudd, John
Oct 6, 2023, 4:34:49 AM10/6/23
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On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 13:21:26 +0100
Adrian <bul...@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:
> In message <ufm332$t915$1...@dont-email.me>, vickiebee
> <prairied...@aol.com> writes
> >Hey Adrian, yes, our numbers are growing! OMG - have you ever tasted
> >chocolate-covered bacon?
>
> This is probably heresy in these parts, but no. I'm not a bacon fan, I
> like the smell, but not the taste. I have a fiend who is the same with
> coffee.
>
>
Personally (and who else can speak for me?), I love the smell of tobacco.
Adrian <bul...@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:
> In message <ufm332$t915$1...@dont-email.me>, vickiebee
> <prairied...@aol.com> writes
> >Hey Adrian, yes, our numbers are growing! OMG - have you ever tasted
> >chocolate-covered bacon?
>
> This is probably heresy in these parts, but no. I'm not a bacon fan, I
> like the smell, but not the taste. I have a fiend who is the same with
> coffee.
>
>
On it's own. Not when set alight.
I can handle coffee in small quantities, but it's rarely as tasty as it
smells.
vickiebee
Oct 6, 2023, 9:31:18 AM10/6/23
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Oh my, last night it occurred to me that this didn't sound right. I
meant wade through MY crap before I said anything of note. That's
another problem I have - making myself clear.
v
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vickiebee
Oct 6, 2023, 9:45:07 AM10/6/23
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Adrian wrote:
> In message <ufm332$t915$1...@dont-email.me>, vickiebee
> <prairied...@aol.com> writes
>> Hey Adrian, yes, our numbers are growing! OMG - have you ever
>> tasted chocolate-covered bacon?
>
> This is probably heresy in these parts, but no. I'm not a bacon fan,
> I like the smell, but not the taste. I have a fiend who is the same
> with coffee.
>
~~~
> In message <ufm332$t915$1...@dont-email.me>, vickiebee
> <prairied...@aol.com> writes
>> Hey Adrian, yes, our numbers are growing! OMG - have you ever
>> tasted chocolate-covered bacon?
>
> This is probably heresy in these parts, but no. I'm not a bacon fan,
> I like the smell, but not the taste. I have a fiend who is the same
> with coffee.
>
That's okay, I'll take your share of bacon. Do you have it hickory
smoked over there?
I didn't drink coffee until I was in my 20's, and then only because I
went to poetry coffee clubs in Okla., which did not allow
liquor-by-the-drink until 1985.
v - no, not kidding
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Adrian
Oct 6, 2023, 10:26:17 AM10/6/23
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In message <ufp30v$1ijif$1...@dont-email.me>, vickiebee
<prairied...@aol.com> writes
Not sure about the hickory smoked bacon, but the village butchers
sometimes does hickory smoked snorkers, which I've yet to test.
<prairied...@aol.com> writes
>Adrian wrote:
>> In message <ufm332$t915$1...@dont-email.me>, vickiebee
>><prairied...@aol.com> writes
>>> Hey Adrian, yes, our numbers are growing! OMG - have you ever
>>> tasted chocolate-covered bacon?
>> This is probably heresy in these parts, but no. I'm not a bacon
>>fan,
>> I like the smell, but not the taste. I have a fiend who is the same
>> with coffee.
>>
>~~~
>That's okay, I'll take your share of bacon. Do you have it hickory
>smoked over there?
>
You're welcome.
>> In message <ufm332$t915$1...@dont-email.me>, vickiebee
>><prairied...@aol.com> writes
>>> Hey Adrian, yes, our numbers are growing! OMG - have you ever
>>> tasted chocolate-covered bacon?
>> This is probably heresy in these parts, but no. I'm not a bacon
>>fan,
>> I like the smell, but not the taste. I have a fiend who is the same
>> with coffee.
>>
>~~~
>That's okay, I'll take your share of bacon. Do you have it hickory
>smoked over there?
>
Not sure about the hickory smoked bacon, but the village butchers
sometimes does hickory smoked snorkers, which I've yet to test.
RustyHinge
Oct 6, 2023, 10:46:36 AM10/6/23
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On 06/10/2023 14:31, vickiebee wrote:
> Oh my, last night it occurred to me that this didn't sound right. I
> meant wade through MY crap before I said anything of note. That's
> another problem I have - making myself clear.
>
> v
Clearguard action?
> Oh my, last night it occurred to me that this didn't sound right. I
> meant wade through MY crap before I said anything of note. That's
> another problem I have - making myself clear.
>
> v
RustyHinge
Oct 6, 2023, 10:51:25 AM10/6/23
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On 06/10/2023 15:21, Adrian wrote:
> In message <ufp30v$1ijif$1...@dont-email.me>, vickiebee
> <prairied...@aol.com> writes
>> Adrian wrote:
>>> In message <ufm332$t915$1...@dont-email.me>, vickiebee
>>> <prairied...@aol.com> writes
>>>> Hey Adrian, yes, our numbers are growing! OMG - have you ever
>>>> tasted chocolate-covered bacon?
>>> This is probably heresy in these parts, but no. I'm not a bacon fan,
>>> I like the smell, but not the taste. I have a fiend who is the same
>>> with coffee.
>>>
>> ~~~
>> That's okay, I'll take your share of bacon. Do you have it hickory
>> smoked over there?
>>
>
> You're welcome.
>
> Not sure about the hickory smoked bacon, but the village butchers
> sometimes does hickory smoked snorkers, which I've yet to test.
Not a lot of hickory available to use for smoking, what does get over
> In message <ufp30v$1ijif$1...@dont-email.me>, vickiebee
> <prairied...@aol.com> writes
>> Adrian wrote:
>>> In message <ufm332$t915$1...@dont-email.me>, vickiebee
>>> <prairied...@aol.com> writes
>>>> Hey Adrian, yes, our numbers are growing! OMG - have you ever
>>>> tasted chocolate-covered bacon?
>>> This is probably heresy in these parts, but no. I'm not a bacon fan,
>>> I like the smell, but not the taste. I have a fiend who is the same
>>> with coffee.
>>>
>> ~~~
>> That's okay, I'll take your share of bacon. Do you have it hickory
>> smoked over there?
>>
>
> You're welcome.
>
> Not sure about the hickory smoked bacon, but the village butchers
> sometimes does hickory smoked snorkers, which I've yet to test.
here is generally tool handles, or shaped for such - it's stronger than ash.
Most smoking is done with oak or a mixture of oak and beech.
Kerr-Mudd, John
Oct 6, 2023, 2:35:35 PM10/6/23
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Adrian
Oct 7, 2023, 6:51:33 AM10/7/23
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In message <P5zuPALj...@ku.gro.lloiff>, Adrian
<bul...@ku.gro.lioff> writes
they'd heard of hickory smoked bacon, but they hadn't.
<bul...@ku.gro.lioff> writes
>Not sure about the hickory smoked bacon, but the village butchers
>sometimes does hickory smoked snorkers, which I've yet to test.
>
I made my weekly trip to the village butchers this morning. I asked if
>sometimes does hickory smoked snorkers, which I've yet to test.
>
they'd heard of hickory smoked bacon, but they hadn't.
Nick Maclaren
Oct 7, 2023, 7:07:17 AM10/7/23
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In article <oeGwbSHH...@ku.gro.lloiff>,
walnut, but its closest British equivalent for tool handles is ash.
I would GUESS that it's closest British equivalent for smoking is
beech.
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
Adrian <bul...@ffoil.org.uk> wrote:
>In message <P5zuPALj...@ku.gro.lloiff>, Adrian
><bul...@ku.gro.lioff> writes
>>Not sure about the hickory smoked bacon, but the village butchers
>>sometimes does hickory smoked snorkers, which I've yet to test.
>
>I made my weekly trip to the village butchers this morning. I asked if
>they'd heard of hickory smoked bacon, but they hadn't.
Because hickory is a north American wood. It is a relative of
>In message <P5zuPALj...@ku.gro.lloiff>, Adrian
><bul...@ku.gro.lioff> writes
>>Not sure about the hickory smoked bacon, but the village butchers
>>sometimes does hickory smoked snorkers, which I've yet to test.
>
>I made my weekly trip to the village butchers this morning. I asked if
>they'd heard of hickory smoked bacon, but they hadn't.
walnut, but its closest British equivalent for tool handles is ash.
I would GUESS that it's closest British equivalent for smoking is
beech.
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
RustyHinge
Oct 7, 2023, 8:34:33 AM10/7/23
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And pecan nuts come from a type of hickory.
When I lived on the Isle of Lewis I used to smoke fish 'up the lum' with
smouldering peat and heather with some bog myrtle to add a bit of interest.
vickiebee
Oct 8, 2023, 7:57:05 AM10/8/23
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RustyHinge wrote:
> On 06/10/2023 14:31, vickiebee wrote:
>
>> Oh my, last night it occurred to me that this didn't sound right. I
>> meant wade through MY crap before I said anything of note. That's
>> another problem I have - making myself clear.
>>
>> v
>
> Clearguard action?
>
~~~
> On 06/10/2023 14:31, vickiebee wrote:
>
>> Oh my, last night it occurred to me that this didn't sound right. I
>> meant wade through MY crap before I said anything of note. That's
>> another problem I have - making myself clear.
>>
>> v
>
> Clearguard action?
>
Whoooosh!
v
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vickiebee
Oct 8, 2023, 8:14:09 AM10/8/23
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Thanks for the info, I like to learn new things. We have lots of hickory
here. I've used it to smoke supermarket salmon - hey, I'm an in-lander.
I also use a lot of mesquite in my little smoker. It's a pesky little
tree/shrub wot grows wild in pastures, but gives good flavor to
barbecues. My Gran used its bark to make awful-tasting healing tea...
for what I don't remember.
v
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vickiebee
Oct 8, 2023, 8:18:11 AM10/8/23
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Adrian wrote:
> In message <P5zuPALj...@ku.gro.lloiff>, Adrian
> <bul...@ku.gro.lioff> writes
>> Not sure about the hickory smoked bacon, but the village butchers
>> sometimes does hickory smoked snorkers, which I've yet to test.
>>
>
> I made my weekly trip to the village butchers this morning. I asked
> if they'd heard of hickory smoked bacon, but they hadn't.
>
> Adrian
~~~
> In message <P5zuPALj...@ku.gro.lloiff>, Adrian
> <bul...@ku.gro.lioff> writes
>> Not sure about the hickory smoked bacon, but the village butchers
>> sometimes does hickory smoked snorkers, which I've yet to test.
>>
>
> I made my weekly trip to the village butchers this morning. I asked
> if they'd heard of hickory smoked bacon, but they hadn't.
>
> Adrian
Well, I'll be... that's very interesting. Of course, many Yanks say the
best smoking wood is chips from old whisky/bourbon barrels.
v
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The Natural Philosopher
Oct 8, 2023, 8:32:11 AM10/8/23
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Ive had it and mesquite and both are really nice and full of snofllake
offending carcinogens
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and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally
important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for
the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the
truth is the greatest enemy of the State.
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RustyHinge
Oct 8, 2023, 12:29:27 PM10/8/23
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On 08/10/2023 12:57, vickiebee wrote:
> RustyHinge wrote:
>> On 06/10/2023 14:31, vickiebee wrote:
>>
>>> Oh my, last night it occurred to me that this didn't sound right. I
>>> meant wade through MY crap before I said anything of note. That's
>>> another problem I have - making myself clear.
>>>
>>> v
>>
>> Clearguard action?
>>
> ~~~
> Whoooosh!
Rearguard action + "- making myself clear"
> RustyHinge wrote:
>> On 06/10/2023 14:31, vickiebee wrote:
>>
>>> Oh my, last night it occurred to me that this didn't sound right. I
>>> meant wade through MY crap before I said anything of note. That's
>>> another problem I have - making myself clear.
>>>
>>> v
>>
>> Clearguard action?
>>
> ~~~
> Whoooosh!
OK?
RustyHinge
Oct 8, 2023, 12:42:08 PM10/8/23
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RustyHinge
Oct 8, 2023, 12:46:49 PM10/8/23
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On 08/10/2023 13:18, vickiebee wrote:
Put a pint or so of clean water in your barrel and roll it about (on the
lawn, for preference. Here, this is strictly illegal as the alcohol in
the wood ends up in the water and the rumbler hasn't paid duty.
vickiebee
Oct 9, 2023, 6:37:42 AM10/9/23
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RustyHinge wrote:
> On 08/10/2023 13:14, vickiebee wrote:
>> RustyHinge wrote:
>>> On 06/10/2023 15:21, Adrian wrote:
[...]
> On 08/10/2023 13:14, vickiebee wrote:
>> RustyHinge wrote:
>>> On 06/10/2023 15:21, Adrian wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Not sure about the hickory smoked bacon, but the village
>>>> butchers sometimes does hickory smoked snorkers, which I've yet
>>>> to test.
>>>
>>> Not a lot of hickory available to use for smoking, what does get
>>> over here is generally tool handles, or shaped for such - it's
>>> stronger than ash.
>>>
>>> Most smoking is done with oak or a mixture of oak and beech.
>>>
>> ~~~ Thanks for the info, I like to learn new things. We have lots
>> of hickory here. I've used it to smoke supermarket salmon - hey,
>> I'm an in-lander. I also use a lot of mesquite in my little smoker.
>> It's a pesky little tree/shrub wot grows wild in pastures, but
>> gives good flavor to barbecues. My Gran used its bark to make
>> awful-tasting healing tea... for what I don't remember.
>
> Wikipedia is your friend:
> https://learningandyearning.com/hickory-bark-syrup
>
~~~
>>>> Not sure about the hickory smoked bacon, but the village
>>>> butchers sometimes does hickory smoked snorkers, which I've yet
>>>> to test.
>>>
>>> Not a lot of hickory available to use for smoking, what does get
>>> over here is generally tool handles, or shaped for such - it's
>>> stronger than ash.
>>>
>>> Most smoking is done with oak or a mixture of oak and beech.
>>>
>> ~~~ Thanks for the info, I like to learn new things. We have lots
>> of hickory here. I've used it to smoke supermarket salmon - hey,
>> I'm an in-lander. I also use a lot of mesquite in my little smoker.
>> It's a pesky little tree/shrub wot grows wild in pastures, but
>> gives good flavor to barbecues. My Gran used its bark to make
>> awful-tasting healing tea... for what I don't remember.
>
> Wikipedia is your friend:
> https://learningandyearning.com/hickory-bark-syrup
>
My friend Wikipedia also sez:
"Medicinal Uses of the Shagbark Hickory:
An inner bark tea is used as a diuretic and as a purgative. It is also
taken internally and externally for treating arthritis. The bark was
used as a poultice for treating arthritis. The young shoots were steamed
and inhaled for treating convulsions and headaches."
Which is news to me. And Shagbark!?
Anyway, I was talking about Gran's awful mesquite tea. I asked around
and was told she used it for upset stomach.
v
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vickiebee
Oct 9, 2023, 6:48:57 AM10/9/23
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RustyHinge wrote:
> On 08/10/2023 13:18, vickiebee wrote:
[...] Of course, many Yanks say the
> On 08/10/2023 13:18, vickiebee wrote:
>> best smoking wood is chips from old whisky/bourbon barrels.
>
> Waste of good 'rumbling' stock.
>
> Put a pint or so of clean water in your barrel and roll it about (on
> the lawn, for preference. Here, this is strictly illegal as the
> alcohol in the wood ends up in the water and the rumbler hasn't paid
> duty.
>
~~~
>
> Waste of good 'rumbling' stock.
>
> Put a pint or so of clean water in your barrel and roll it about (on
> the lawn, for preference. Here, this is strictly illegal as the
> alcohol in the wood ends up in the water and the rumbler hasn't paid
> duty.
>
"Rumbler" is a new one on me. Over here it's a type of emergency vehicle
siren.
v
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RustyHinge
Oct 9, 2023, 6:49:46 AM10/9/23
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> Anyway, I was talking about Gran's awful mesquite tea. I asked around
> and was told she used it for upset stomach.
RustyHinge
Oct 9, 2023, 6:54:55 AM10/9/23
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vickiebee
Oct 10, 2023, 2:37:14 PM10/10/23
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RustyHinge wrote:
> On 09/10/2023 11:48, vickiebee wrote:
>> RustyHinge wrote:
>>> On 08/10/2023 13:18, vickiebee wrote:
>> [...] Of course, many Yanks say the
>>>> best smoking wood is chips from old whisky/bourbon barrels.
>>>
>>> Waste of good 'rumbling' stock.
>>>
>>> Put a pint or so of clean water in your barrel and roll it about (on
>>> the lawn, for preference. Here, this is strictly illegal as the
>>> alcohol in the wood ends up in the water and the rumbler hasn't paid
>>> duty.
>>>
>> ~~~
>> "Rumbler" is a new one on me. Over here it's a type of emergency vehicle
>> siren.
>
> OK to rumble so long as you're not rumbled.
>
~~~
> On 09/10/2023 11:48, vickiebee wrote:
>> RustyHinge wrote:
>>> On 08/10/2023 13:18, vickiebee wrote:
>> [...] Of course, many Yanks say the
>>>> best smoking wood is chips from old whisky/bourbon barrels.
>>>
>>> Waste of good 'rumbling' stock.
>>>
>>> Put a pint or so of clean water in your barrel and roll it about (on
>>> the lawn, for preference. Here, this is strictly illegal as the
>>> alcohol in the wood ends up in the water and the rumbler hasn't paid
>>> duty.
>>>
>> ~~~
>> "Rumbler" is a new one on me. Over here it's a type of emergency vehicle
>> siren.
>
> OK to rumble so long as you're not rumbled.
>
Let's see, our rumble is like a West Side Story gang fight. Your rumbled
could be slang for being intoxicated. My friend Google gave me 32 more
USA slang terms.
1. Buzzed
2. Blasted
3. Canned
4. Croked
5. Destroyed
6. Fried
7. Groggy
8. Hammered
9. Hooched up
10. Juiced
11. Liquored-up
12. Loaded
13. Looped
14. Obliterated
15. Plowed
16. Polluted
17. Rat-assed
18. Ripped
19. Sh*t-faced
20. Sloshed
21. Smashed
22. Stewed
23. Stinko
24. Tanked
25. Three-sheets-to-the-wind
26. Tight
27. Tipsy
28. under-the-influence
29. Under-the-table
30. Wasted
31. Woozy
32. Wrecked
Also we Okies like to say: Drunker-than-Cooter-Brown.
v - never met Cooter, but he sure has a reputation
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John Williamson
Oct 10, 2023, 2:42:00 PM10/10/23
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On 10/10/2023 19:37, vickiebee wrote:
> RustyHinge wrote:
>> On 09/10/2023 11:48, vickiebee wrote:
>>> RustyHinge wrote:
>>>> On 08/10/2023 13:18, vickiebee wrote:
>>> [...] Of course, many Yanks say the
>>>>> best smoking wood is chips from old whisky/bourbon barrels.
>>>>
>>>> Waste of good 'rumbling' stock.
>>>>
>>>> Put a pint or so of clean water in your barrel and roll it about (on
>>>> the lawn, for preference. Here, this is strictly illegal as the
>>>> alcohol in the wood ends up in the water and the rumbler hasn't paid
>>>> duty.
>>>>
>>> ~~~
>>> "Rumbler" is a new one on me. Over here it's a type of emergency vehicle
>>> siren.
>>
>> OK to rumble so long as you're not rumbled.
>>
> ~~~
> Let's see, our rumble is like a West Side Story gang fight. Your rumbled
> could be slang for being intoxicated. My friend Google gave me 32 more
> USA slang terms.
>
<Snip>
> RustyHinge wrote:
>> On 09/10/2023 11:48, vickiebee wrote:
>>> RustyHinge wrote:
>>>> On 08/10/2023 13:18, vickiebee wrote:
>>> [...] Of course, many Yanks say the
>>>>> best smoking wood is chips from old whisky/bourbon barrels.
>>>>
>>>> Waste of good 'rumbling' stock.
>>>>
>>>> Put a pint or so of clean water in your barrel and roll it about (on
>>>> the lawn, for preference. Here, this is strictly illegal as the
>>>> alcohol in the wood ends up in the water and the rumbler hasn't paid
>>>> duty.
>>>>
>>> ~~~
>>> "Rumbler" is a new one on me. Over here it's a type of emergency vehicle
>>> siren.
>>
>> OK to rumble so long as you're not rumbled.
>>
> ~~~
> Let's see, our rumble is like a West Side Story gang fight. Your rumbled
> could be slang for being intoxicated. My friend Google gave me 32 more
> USA slang terms.
>
Our squeaky friend is using the same meaning as I would.
Rumbled = caught.
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John.
vickiebee
Oct 10, 2023, 3:42:41 PM10/10/23
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The Natural Philosopher
Oct 11, 2023, 5:12:08 AM10/11/23
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has actually felt your collar, "rumbled" means your covert operations
or lies have become known. Not that any subsequent action has been taken.
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vickiebee
Oct 11, 2023, 8:43:26 AM10/11/23
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So, more like nailed - as in "the police have been trying to nail those
guys for months."
v
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John Williamson
Oct 11, 2023, 9:11:57 AM10/11/23
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I would say rumbled is when the boss or some other civilian notices, and
nabbed is when Plod gets involved and collars are felt. (That is a daft
way of saying that handcuffs are applied...) Nailed is also used here in
the latter sense, probably because we watch too much Leftpondian TV.
vickiebee
Oct 11, 2023, 9:36:36 AM10/11/23
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John Williamson wrote:
> On 11/10/2023 13:43, vickiebee wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 10/10/2023 20:42, vickiebee wrote:
>>>> John Williamson wrote:
>>>>> Rumbled = caught.
>>>>>
>>>> ~~~ Ah, I see, thanks John. We would say "nabbed." v
>>>
>>> We might, but there is a difference in meaning. "Nabbed" means
>>> the Law has actually felt your collar, "rumbled" means your
>>> covert operations or lies have become known. Not that any
>>> subsequent action has been taken.
>>>
>>>
>> ~~~ So, more like nailed - as in "the police have been trying to
>> nail those guys for months." v
> That's about it.
>
> I would say rumbled is when the boss or some other civilian notices,
> and nabbed is when Plod gets involved and collars are felt. (That is
> a daft way of saying that handcuffs are applied...)
~~~
> On 11/10/2023 13:43, vickiebee wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 10/10/2023 20:42, vickiebee wrote:
>>>> John Williamson wrote:
>>>>> Rumbled = caught.
>>>>>
>>>> ~~~ Ah, I see, thanks John. We would say "nabbed." v
>>>
>>> We might, but there is a difference in meaning. "Nabbed" means
>>> the Law has actually felt your collar, "rumbled" means your
>>> covert operations or lies have become known. Not that any
>>> subsequent action has been taken.
>>>
>>>
>> ~~~ So, more like nailed - as in "the police have been trying to
>> nail those guys for months." v
> That's about it.
>
> I would say rumbled is when the boss or some other civilian notices,
> and nabbed is when Plod gets involved and collars are felt. (That is
> a daft way of saying that handcuffs are applied...)
I love "collars are felt."
~~~
> Nailed is also used here in
> the latter sense, probably because we watch too much Leftpondian TV.
>
~~~
> the latter sense, probably because we watch too much Leftpondian TV.
>
There is that...and also in reverse.
v - devoted fan of Masterpiece Theatre since 1971. Nobody does it better
than the British when it comes to the classics and original TV drama.
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RustyHinge
Oct 11, 2023, 9:55:14 AM10/11/23
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meaning in the UK.
RustyHinge
Oct 11, 2023, 9:59:13 AM10/11/23
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On 10/10/2023 20:42, vickiebee wrote:
means the dissembler is 'rumbled'.
Sn!pe
Oct 11, 2023, 10:04:54 AM10/11/23
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shoulder, next to your collar, and the copper says "Come along a me,
my son, yore nicked." Either that, or he's cotched yer by the collar of
yer coat and you can't wriggle free. Pesky darn Peelers...
--
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My pet rock Gordon just is.
RustyHinge
Oct 11, 2023, 10:05:02 AM10/11/23
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and the application of force thereby to restrain the wearer of the
collared garment.
The Natural Philosopher
Oct 11, 2023, 12:49:31 PM10/11/23
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On 11/10/2023 13:43, vickiebee wrote:
More like sussed. Rumbled. Found out, discovered, revealed,
clandestinely penetrated, blown...
Rumbled is about revealing clandestine information, not about actions
thereafter.
--
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This makes me unfit for the company of people of a Left persuasion, and
all women"
vickiebee
Oct 12, 2023, 8:06:29 AM10/12/23
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RustyHinge wrote:
[re rumbled]
> It also means sussed - found-out, which I'd guess is the most used
> meaning in the UK.
>
~~~
A Murrican dictionary on suss:
INFORMAL•BRITISH
verb
past tense: sussed; past participle: sussed
realize or grasp (something).
"he's sussed it"
discover the true character or nature of.
"I reckon I've got him sussed"
v
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[re rumbled]
> It also means sussed - found-out, which I'd guess is the most used
> meaning in the UK.
>
~~~
A Murrican dictionary on suss:
INFORMAL•BRITISH
verb
past tense: sussed; past participle: sussed
realize or grasp (something).
"he's sussed it"
discover the true character or nature of.
"I reckon I've got him sussed"
v
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Ahem A Rivet's Shot
Oct 12, 2023, 10:30:04 AM10/12/23
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very), usually by the police or other authoritarian fun busters.
--
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Host: Beautiful Theory meet Inconvenient Fact
Obit: Beautiful Theory died today of factual inconsistency
Ben Newsam
Oct 18, 2023, 8:16:32 PM10/18/23
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vickiebee wrote, though the Organization header says "A noiseless
patient Spider":
>Adrian wrote:
>> In message <P5zuPALj...@ku.gro.lloiff>, Adrian
>> <bul...@ku.gro.lioff> writes
>>> Not sure about the hickory smoked bacon, but the village butchers
>>> sometimes does hickory smoked snorkers, which I've yet to test.
>>
>> I made my weekly trip to the village butchers this morning. I asked
>> if they'd heard of hickory smoked bacon, but they hadn't.
>>
to mature decent malt whisky.
--
Ben
patient Spider":
>Adrian wrote:
>> In message <P5zuPALj...@ku.gro.lloiff>, Adrian
>> <bul...@ku.gro.lioff> writes
>>> Not sure about the hickory smoked bacon, but the village butchers
>>> sometimes does hickory smoked snorkers, which I've yet to test.
>>
>> I made my weekly trip to the village butchers this morning. I asked
>> if they'd heard of hickory smoked bacon, but they hadn't.
>>
>Well, I'll be... that's very interesting. Of course, many Yanks say the
>best smoking wood is chips from old whisky/bourbon barrels.
IMO the rpoper use for old bourbon barrels is to send them to Scotland
>best smoking wood is chips from old whisky/bourbon barrels.
to mature decent malt whisky.
--
Ben
vickiebee
Oct 19, 2023, 7:09:29 PM10/19/23
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Ben Newsam wrote:
> vickiebee wrote, though the Organization header says "A noiseless
> patient Spider":
>
>> Adrian wrote:
>>> In message <P5zuPALj...@ku.gro.lloiff>, Adrian
>>> <bul...@ku.gro.lioff> writes
>>>> Not sure about the hickory smoked bacon, but the village
>>>> butchers sometimes does hickory smoked snorkers, which I've yet
>>>> to test.
>>>
>>> I made my weekly trip to the village butchers this morning. I
>>> asked if they'd heard of hickory smoked bacon, but they hadn't.
>>>
>> Well, I'll be... that's very interesting. Of course, many Yanks say
>> the best smoking wood is chips from old whisky/bourbon barrels.
>
> IMO the proper use for old bourbon barrels is to send them to
> vickiebee wrote, though the Organization header says "A noiseless
> patient Spider":
>
>> Adrian wrote:
>>> In message <P5zuPALj...@ku.gro.lloiff>, Adrian
>>> <bul...@ku.gro.lioff> writes
>>>> Not sure about the hickory smoked bacon, but the village
>>>> butchers sometimes does hickory smoked snorkers, which I've yet
>>>> to test.
>>>
>>> I made my weekly trip to the village butchers this morning. I
>>> asked if they'd heard of hickory smoked bacon, but they hadn't.
>>>
>> Well, I'll be... that's very interesting. Of course, many Yanks say
>> the best smoking wood is chips from old whisky/bourbon barrels.
>
> Scotland to mature decent malt whisky.
>
~~~
>
Yowbut, don't they ever get worn plum out and start leaking?
I don't mix well with strong spirits anymore... I relax with edibles.
v
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RustyHinge
Oct 19, 2023, 11:50:19 PM10/19/23
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with the essence of the wood, and the more times a barrel is used to
mature a spirit the weaker that flavour gets.
Positively the best use for a retired spirit barrel is to rumble it
(remember?). Find a nice cushioned spot like a lawn (which isn't going
to betray the opration as something like gravel or concrete would...),
put a bottle or two of water in the barrel depending on its size) and
roll it round for a long time, taking care that the Old Bill or worse,
an exciseman doesn't see you. After that long time a lot of that alcohol
soaked into the wood will migrate into the water and can be stronger
than stuff you buy. If you're lucky.
Barrels only tend to leak if they get dry, when the wood will shrink.
Ben Newsam
Oct 20, 2023, 7:13:03 AM10/20/23
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vickiebee wrote, though the Organization header says "A noiseless
patient Spider":
>Ben Newsam wrote:
>> vickiebee wrote, though the Organization header says "A noiseless
>> patient Spider":
>>
>>> Adrian wrote:
>>>> In message <P5zuPALj...@ku.gro.lloiff>, Adrian
>>>> <bul...@ku.gro.lioff> writes
>>>>> Not sure about the hickory smoked bacon, but the village
>>>>> butchers sometimes does hickory smoked snorkers, which I've yet
>>>>> to test.
>>>>
>>>> I made my weekly trip to the village butchers this morning. I
>>>> asked if they'd heard of hickory smoked bacon, but they hadn't.
>>>>
>>> Well, I'll be... that's very interesting. Of course, many Yanks say
>>> the best smoking wood is chips from old whisky/bourbon barrels.
>>
>> IMO the proper use for old bourbon barrels is to send them to
>> Scotland to mature decent malt whisky.
>>
>~~~
>Yowbut, don't they ever get worn plum out and start leaking?
Well yes, but they mend them. I know this after having been shown
patient Spider":
>Ben Newsam wrote:
>> vickiebee wrote, though the Organization header says "A noiseless
>> patient Spider":
>>
>>> Adrian wrote:
>>>> In message <P5zuPALj...@ku.gro.lloiff>, Adrian
>>>> <bul...@ku.gro.lioff> writes
>>>>> Not sure about the hickory smoked bacon, but the village
>>>>> butchers sometimes does hickory smoked snorkers, which I've yet
>>>>> to test.
>>>>
>>>> I made my weekly trip to the village butchers this morning. I
>>>> asked if they'd heard of hickory smoked bacon, but they hadn't.
>>>>
>>> Well, I'll be... that's very interesting. Of course, many Yanks say
>>> the best smoking wood is chips from old whisky/bourbon barrels.
>>
>> IMO the proper use for old bourbon barrels is to send them to
>> Scotland to mature decent malt whisky.
>>
>~~~
>Yowbut, don't they ever get worn plum out and start leaking?
round the Smith's Glenlivet distillery by the resident cooper.
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vickiebee
Oct 22, 2023, 10:53:16 AM10/22/23
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RustyHinge wrote:
> On 20/10/2023 00:09, vickiebee wrote:
>> Ben Newsam wrote:
>>> vickiebee wrote, though the Organization header says "A noiseless
>>> patient Spider":
>>>
>>>> Adrian wrote:
[..]
> On 20/10/2023 00:09, vickiebee wrote:
>> Ben Newsam wrote:
>>> vickiebee wrote, though the Organization header says "A noiseless
>>> patient Spider":
>>>
>>>> Adrian wrote:
>>>>> I made my weekly trip to the village butchers this morning.
>>>>> I asked if they'd heard of hickory smoked bacon, but they
>>>>> hadn't.
>>>>>
>>>> Well, I'll be... that's very interesting. Of course, many Yanks
>>>> say the best smoking wood is chips from old whisky/bourbon
>>>> barrels.
>>>
>>> IMO the proper use for old bourbon barrels is to send them to
>>> Scotland to mature decent malt whisky.
>>>
>> ~~~ Yowbut, don't they ever get worn plum out and start leaking?
>>
>> I don't mix well with strong spirits anymore... I relax with
>> edibles. v
>
> Not worn, as such, but Bourbon barrels for instance, flavour the
> spirit with the essence of the wood, and the more times a barrel is
> used to mature a spirit the weaker that flavour gets.
>
> Positively the best use for a retired spirit barrel is to rumble it
> (remember?). Find a nice cushioned spot like a lawn (which isn't
> going to betray the opration as something like gravel or concrete
> would...), put a bottle or two of water in the barrel depending on
> its size) and roll it round for a long time, taking care that the Old
> Bill or worse, an exciseman doesn't see you. After that long time a
> lot of that alcohol soaked into the wood will migrate into the water
> and can be stronger than stuff you buy. If you're lucky.
>
> Barrels only tend to leak if they get dry, when the wood will
> shrink.
>
~~~
>>>>> I asked if they'd heard of hickory smoked bacon, but they
>>>>> hadn't.
>>>>>
>>>> Well, I'll be... that's very interesting. Of course, many Yanks
>>>> say the best smoking wood is chips from old whisky/bourbon
>>>> barrels.
>>>
>>> IMO the proper use for old bourbon barrels is to send them to
>>> Scotland to mature decent malt whisky.
>>>
>> ~~~ Yowbut, don't they ever get worn plum out and start leaking?
>>
>> I don't mix well with strong spirits anymore... I relax with
>> edibles. v
>
> Not worn, as such, but Bourbon barrels for instance, flavour the
> spirit with the essence of the wood, and the more times a barrel is
> used to mature a spirit the weaker that flavour gets.
>
> Positively the best use for a retired spirit barrel is to rumble it
> (remember?). Find a nice cushioned spot like a lawn (which isn't
> going to betray the opration as something like gravel or concrete
> would...), put a bottle or two of water in the barrel depending on
> its size) and roll it round for a long time, taking care that the Old
> Bill or worse, an exciseman doesn't see you. After that long time a
> lot of that alcohol soaked into the wood will migrate into the water
> and can be stronger than stuff you buy. If you're lucky.
>
> Barrels only tend to leak if they get dry, when the wood will
> shrink.
>
;D My word, what some folks will do to get a free drink!
I will never forget what a good "rumble" is... or when Gran was so happy
to acquire 2 big whiskey barrels for planting flowers by her front door.
v
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RustyHinge
Oct 22, 2023, 12:11:15 PM10/22/23
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On 22/10/2023 15:51, vickiebee wrote:
> ;D My word, what some folks will do to get a free drink!
>
> I will never forget what a good "rumble" is... or when Gran was so happy
> to acquire 2 big whiskey barrels for planting flowers by her front door.
> v
We had a whole barrel with the top off, and holes bored in some of the
> ;D My word, what some folks will do to get a free drink!
>
> I will never forget what a good "rumble" is... or when Gran was so happy
> to acquire 2 big whiskey barrels for planting flowers by her front door.
> v
staves on the sunny side.
Big plastic drainpipe down the middle with a few small holes drilled in
it, packed round with compost, and strawberries planted in the holes in
the staves.
the holes in the drainpipe were more densely-grouped at the top and the
pipe filled with water, to moisten the compost as evenly as possible.
My nod at flowers was tio arrange a tunnel of runner beans, trailing
courgettes, vine tomatoes etc from the front gate to near the front door.
<♫ ♪> You gotta pick a veggie or two-oo, you've gotta pick a veggie or
two! </♪ ♫ >
RustyHinge
Oct 22, 2023, 12:33:47 PM10/22/23
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On 22/10/2023 15:51, vickiebee wrote:
my girlfriend and her brother as teenagers. The house always had a keg
of whisky locked-up in the cellar. Somewhere around Glesga...
And parents go out...
An' when the cat's awa
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