true definition, some hacker terminology
SANDMAN
school days. back when "hacking" was the writing of programs and intense
knowledge of UNIX and other operating systems. a hacker had to know the
system they were on like the back of their hand and was educated in things
that the average computer user couldn't comprehend. ... ( My Days )
today the word hacker has been tarnished and is used instead to describe
those that do damage and break into other's systems and databases. the
terminology and lingo of today better describes what and how each "hacker"
works.
Some hacker terminology :
-cracker - commonly mistaken for a hacker, these people intentionally break
systems security or attempt to "crack" codes and passwords. although to the
common PC user they seem intelligent, most lack significant programming
ability, or experience with UNIX and VMS. they simply use common tricks, or
previously written programs. to real hackers, these crackers are regarded as
a lower life form.
-phreaking - this form of "hacking" involves cracking the phone network in
order to usually make free long distance calls. although it isn't used as
much as the old days with their "blue boxs", some true hackers will
occasionally test their skill on the latest system.
-warez crackz - these people get illegal copies of copywrited software. they
break the protection on the programs, and then allow others to download and
distribute the software's. the point of the warez subculture is to get the
pirate program released before any other group. oh yeah, they also are
notorious for purposely misspelling words or swapping the ever present S for
a Z...don't ask why...I guess it's cool or something.
lamers - this is the word used to describe those that intentionally mess
around with other's systems for the sole purpose of annoying. they lack true
hacking skills and basically use other hacker's programs as they pretend to
be a cool "hacker".(usually these are the "wannabee" kids sitting behind
their pc clone in their bedroom trying to impress their friend on what they
can "do" on the computer).
-apps / appz - short of course for application, these are the programs that
are found on hack websites. most of them are harmful or annoying programs
that are downloaded by whoever wants or needs them. some of these include
the infamous "backdoor programs" "spammers" "Ip sniffers" and password
cracks. by simply stating that these programs are for "educational use
only", most servers allow these dangerous programs to reside on the owners
website.
-AOL hacks - this is a relatively new form of hacking that of course sprung
up with the creation of AOL. due to the fact that many veteran computer
users disliked AOL and their "allow every idiot on the web" approach, some
crackers have written special programs just for certain editions of AOL.
"punters" that kick off other users, fake account generators, and chat room
spams are just some of the programs they have available.
the list of "hacker" terminology and jargon is endless. if you are really
interested in learning more, the stuff is out there, all it takes is a
little searching.
I wont lie and say that I'm not interested in this stuff, I am, but I also
know there are certain lines you shouldn't cross. I've been through the
whole hacking phase that most younger or novice computer users go through
and gotten it out of my system. I wont provide for the most part any links
to any hack or warez sites since that is easy enough to find on your own.
just remember that the majority of the stuff out there is illegal, and can
really piss people off when used the wrong way. and of course you always
risk downloading a virus infested program from these sites, so be cautious.
luser
"SANDMAN" <w...@what.com> wrote in message
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> -phreaking - this form of "hacking" involves cracking the phone network in
> order to usually make free long distance calls. although it isn't used as
> much as the old days with their "blue boxs", some true hackers will
> occasionally test their skill on the latest system.
Free phone calls to phreaks is like software cracks to hackers. ...the
lowest common denominator.
There still are plenty of ways to make free phone calls without a blue box.
Despite the death of the blue box (From what I have read, blue boxing is
still possible, albeit rarely.), phreaking is still alive and well.
luser
WB IT
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Most boxing is dead now unless you can find an analogue network, same goes
for blue boxing.
Most networks have tone guards set up aswell that get triggered if you try
to box.
There are plenty of other things to do though....
--
Shaolin - IT Systems
WB Ltd.
SANDMAN
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>
> news:Rudo9.13338$OB5.1...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
>
> > -phreaking - this form of "hacking" involves cracking the phone network
in
> > order to usually make free long distance calls. although it isn't used
as
> > much as the old days with their "blue boxs", some true hackers will
> > occasionally test their skill on the latest system.
>
> Free phone calls to phreaks is like software cracks to hackers. ...the
> lowest common denominator.
or did you mean to say ?
'Free phone calls to phreaks is like software cracks to crackers. ...the
lowest common denominator.'
personally i don't subscribe to either ; but the quotes do make me smile
abit.
> There still are plenty of ways to make free phone calls without a blue
box.
that may be true now for many places, but not all.
> Despite the death of the blue box (From what I have read, blue boxing is
> still possible, albeit rarely.), phreaking is still alive and well.
i was around when it was a must have ... unless you didn't mine paying for a
phone bill that could be larger than your mothly income.
> luser
>
SANDMAN
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> "luser" <luserCO...@fuckameritech.com> wrote in message
> news:ans5g1$qbk$1...@slb7.atl.mindspring.net...
> >
> > "SANDMAN" <w...@what.com> wrote in message
> > news:Rudo9.13338$OB5.1...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> >
> > > -phreaking - this form of "hacking" involves cracking the phone
network
> in
> > > order to usually make free long distance calls. although it isn't used
> as
> > > much as the old days with their "blue boxs", some true hackers will
> > > occasionally test their skill on the latest system.
> >
> > Free phone calls to phreaks is like software cracks to hackers. ...the
> > lowest common denominator.
> >
> > There still are plenty of ways to make free phone calls without a blue
> box.
> >
> > Despite the death of the blue box (From what I have read, blue boxing is
> > still possible, albeit rarely.), phreaking is still alive and well.
> >
> > luser
>
> Most boxing is dead now unless you can find an analogue network, same goes
> for blue boxing.
for the most part you need to pick a 'third world' country , now.
> Most networks have tone guards set up aswell that get triggered if you try
> to box.
but in a 'third world' country , now. ; the network maynot have the guards
or a non-analog system installed.
i just thought of something ! ... i'am in the usa and the area here uses
both a, analog and a non-analog system ? hmmmmmmmmmmmm
There are plenty of other things to do though....
how true ! , how true !
luser
> "luser" <luserCO...@fuckameritech.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > "SANDMAN" <w...@what.com> wrote in message
> > news:Rudo9.13338$OB5.1...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> >
> > > -phreaking - this form of "hacking" involves cracking the phone
network
> in
> > > order to usually make free long distance calls. although it isn't used
> as
> > > much as the old days with their "blue boxs", some true hackers will
> > > occasionally test their skill on the latest system.
> >
> > Free phone calls to phreaks is like software cracks to hackers. ...the
> > lowest common denominator.
>
> or did you mean to say ?
>
> 'Free phone calls to phreaks is like software cracks to crackers. ...the
> lowest common denominator.'
Hackers may not acknowledge cracking software as hacking, but I do.
Similiarly, phreaks may not acknowledge red boxing as phreaking, but I do.
They are both seen as the lowest common denominator.
> personally i don't subscribe to either ; but the quotes do make me smile
> abit.
*shrug* Ok. I'm just saying there's more to it than just free calls.
> > There still are plenty of ways to make free phone calls without a blue
> box.
> that may be true now for many places, but not all.
Your locality does not neccesarily inhibit your ability to phreak.
(Please note that I did say "does not neccesarily" and not simply "does
not.")
For example, red boxing. Some places it could be done, in others it
couldn't. But there were still alternatives.
Hugo Drax
"SANDMAN" <w...@what.com> wrote in message
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SANDMAN
>
>
Would I be correct if I stated ? You have very little 'First Hand' knowledge
of the 'Computer World' before the 1980's.
Also DON'T believe that I'am a 'Phreaker'... For even a 'Minute' ; I'am not.
And don't think ; that I was the one who wrote the 'definition's you've
based this 'Thread' on ; It was a group in 'Germany', that wrote them.
If you feel the need to place me in a 'Grouping' ; Let me suggest you pick
one of these: 'White Hat', Gray Hat', or 'Black Hat'.
SANDMAN
"Hugo Drax" <hugo...@draxindustries.com> wrote in message
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> you forgot the greatest of all. the Script kiddie.
>
it so some 'Script Kiddies' mite learn what they weir talking about.
Not really down on all 'script kiddies', just the ones (seams like most of
them.) that think their the 'Greatest' and don't know what they are talking
about/doing.
'After all' , 'Script Kiddies' aren't called that for nothing.
luser
> Would I be correct if I stated ? You have very little 'First Hand'
knowledge
> of the 'Computer World' before the 1980's.
Yes. But that is neither here nor there in regard to the topic at hand.
> Also DON'T believe that I'am a 'Phreaker'... For even a 'Minute' ; I'am
not.
> And don't think ; that I was the one who wrote the 'definition's you've
> based this 'Thread' on ;
> It was a group in 'Germany',
> that wrote them.
> If you feel the need to place me in a 'Grouping' ; Let me suggest you pick
> one of these: 'White Hat', Gray Hat', or 'Black Hat'.
Honestly, I don't know you from Adam, couldn't care less what you
are/aren't, and was discussing phreaking, not *you*.
SANDMAN
> are/aren't, and was discussing phreaking, not *you*.
>
luser
"luser" <luserCO...@fuckameritech.com> wrote in message
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> > Honestly, I don't know you from Adam, couldn't care
> > less what you are/aren't, and was discussing
> > phreaking, not *you*.
> It's been one of those 'Pissie' days for me and I flew off
> the handle abit,
It happens...
> especially when you referred to me as a 'Phreaker'.
Like I said...
> > Honestly, I don't know you from Adam, couldn't care
> > less what you are/aren't, and was discussing
> > phreaking, not *you*.
Prove me wrong, though, and I'll apologize.
luser
SANDMAN
luser
> We're both correct and both wrong.
*shrug* I would liken it to... you're saying the sky is blue. I'm saying the
sky is cornflower blue. Neither are right, neither are wrong.
> I think it's safe to say we're from different generations in
> the computer related areas/beliefs etc. ... and will
> probley never see all things the sameway.
Like I said, that is neither here nor there (Either here or there it is a
post hoc strawman :) ) There are phreaks young and old who feel the same way
I do. There are phreaks young and old who feel the same way you do.
> But we must be close our I wouldn't have become
> upset by what you said.
> Time to drop the subject and 'start a new'. Agree ?
*shrug*
luser