Help with online backup command line utility on DNS-323

[Scott Miller]

I just upgraded to RC4 on my DNS-323.  First off - I LOVE this project since it gives life to a product that should have been obsolete years ago.  Great work and many, many thanks!!

I use idrive for cloud backup and want to use their command line utility to have my NAS perform the backup instead of needing an always-on computer.  Various builds of their utility can be found here: http://evs.idrive.com/download.htm#command-line-utility, with instructions for its setup/use here: https://www.idrive.com/cmd_steps.  I have SSH'd to my NAS and tried executing each of the builds with no success, ussually getting the error ./idevsutil: line 1: syntax error: unexpected "(" 

Using ALT-F, is it even possible to execute any of these builds?  Are there dependencies I need and am not aware of?

I think an alternative is Debian, but I don't fully understand how Debian works with Alt-F.  If it replaces it and removes the GUI, or adds a lot of processing overhead, I am not interested.

I am in IT and please forgive my ignorance.  I know the basics with Unix/Linux and am very comfortable in a command line environment.  Working through this kind of issue is not part of anything I've done since college (Slackware I think?).

[João Cardoso]

On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 10:53:36 PM UTC, Scott Miller wrote:

I just upgraded to RC4 on my DNS-323.  First off - I LOVE this project since it gives life to a product that should have been obsolete years ago.  Great work and many, many thanks!!

I use idrive for cloud backup and want to use their command line utility to have my NAS perform the backup instead of needing an always-on computer.  Various builds of their utility can be found here: http://evs.idrive.com/download.htm#command-line-utility, with instructions for its setup/use here: https://www.idrive.com/cmd_steps.  I have SSH'd to my NAS and tried executing each of the builds with no success, ussually getting the error ./idevsutil: line 1: syntax error: unexpected "(" 

Using ALT-F, is it even possible to execute any of these builds?  Are there dependencies I need and am not aware of?

You see builds for Windows, QNAPS, Synology... why should they work under Alt-F?

The generic linux build requires glibc, and Alt-F is uclibc based. But that is not all, other dependencies will make it impossible to run. Even optware binaries, which is linux and uclibc based, can't run under Alt-F.

If idrive is closed source, then you are out of luck. Only open source code, allowing us to compile it for any platform, can be used by Alt-F. This has been discussed several times in this forum or in the Alt-F Package Request ticket system.

There is a request for Amazon's S3, and I intend to make it available when I have the time. gdrive is also a possibility.

 

I think an alternative is Debian, but I don't fully understand how Debian works with Alt-F.  If it replaces it and removes the GUI, or adds a lot of processing overhead, I am not interested.

I am in IT and please forgive my ignorance.  I know the basics with Unix/Linux and am very comfortable in a command line environment.  Working through this kind of issue is not part of anything I've done since college (Slackware I think?).

Ah, so college is not related with real world, and so you have stop using what you have learned there :-) That's why I have stopped teaching ;-(

 

[Scott Miller]

Thanks for the prompt reply.  I figured the idrive command line utility was glibc based, but it was not easy to find that ALT-F is uclibc based.  Hours of searching resulted in just posting the question.

As for college, it was 20 years ago and my IT path is not one of a developer, but more of an engineer -> supervisor.  I certainly understand the basics of development (sure, "basics" is subjective) across many platforms, but prefer to defer to the professionals.

Keep up the amazing work and cheeky replies!

[João Cardoso]

On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 9:09:42 PM UTC, Scott Miller wrote:

Thanks for the prompt reply.  I figured the idrive command line utility was glibc based, but it was not easy to find that ALT-F is uclibc based.  Hours of searching resulted in just posting the question.

As for college, it was 20 years ago and my IT path is not one of a developer, but more of an engineer -> supervisor.  I certainly understand the basics of development (sure, "basics" is subjective) across many platforms, but prefer to defer to the professionals.

Keep up the amazing work and cheeky replies!

 

Not being english proficient, I had to consult Merrian-Webster, Cambridge and other online dictionaries to get the right meaning of "cheeky". I'm still not certain:

1. it is a word used to describe someone who does something or says something sort of disrespectful and sometimes rude, but says it in a cunning way.

2. can also be used in a more serious way i.e if you found out that one of your friends has been talking behind your back, you might say that she is a "cheeky bitch"

I apologize. You was polite and I was near rude.

In my defense, a) having been a teacher for so many years I can't see an unanswered question; b) it's stressful to always answer the same questions over and over again. But keep asking :-)

[notoneofmy]

João,

English is not exactly the most sensible language.

The meaning of a word or phrase in English is not finite. There are
times when the meaning of a word or phrase cannot be understood if the
listener, or shall I say, viewer, of the speaker or actor, does not
understand the body language of the latter.

In this case, what the dictionaries may also have failed to tell you is
that "cheeky" can also mean a slight, albeit, friendly comment on
someone's intelligence, sarcastic and/or wit. I think you found rather
strong meaning of that word in the dictionary than was intended by the
original speaker. So, please don't take it personal.

Here's a news story that the reporter thought to to be a "cheeky"
response to something you might find amusing. (And I have sent you this
link particularly because a British paper, such as this, is at the
forefront of bringing to doubt the meaning of words and phrases in the
English language)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2937631/They-ve-clearly-forgotten-draw-wings-Ryanair-s-cheeky-response-staff-caught-creating-lewd-picture-snow-Dublin-Airport.html

Finally, in the English world, the phrase "what do you mean" after
someone has said something is quite common. This should not be the case,
except that depending on what was said, how, where, when, to whom, and a
litany of other circumstances, meaning can be and is often lost. Don't
despair.

Great job, keep it up!

Some of us actually do enjoy your cheeky responses because they often
suggest commonsensical ideas that are often forgotten by the person
asking a question. And to be honest some questions are just down-right
silly. Please don't look up down-right. And I'm not giving directions
here. You may please excuse the pun.

[Robert Fargher]

On 2015-02-08 12:09 AM, notoneofmy wrote:
> In this case, what the dictionaries may also have failed to tell you is
> that "cheeky" can also mean a slight, albeit, friendly comment on
> someone's intelligence, sarcastic and/or wit. I think you found rather
> strong meaning of that word in the dictionary than was intended by the
> original speaker. So, please don't take it personal.

Perhaps realising that "cheeky" is a synonym for "smart-ass" might
help. And that, itself, is a cheeky comment. I'm being a smart-ass. :-)

That dictionary definition gave a too strong meaning to the word,
being cheeky is not really being mean and/or nasty.

--
Cheers,
Rob