Senator Obama's event dates for rectification

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Ray Murphy

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Jul 3, 2008, 2:05:14 AM7/3/08
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Hi All,

I started this thread for storing any event dates we come across for
Senator Obama.

(1) Date of admission as a lawyer in Illinois - 17th Dec, 1991.
http://www.politifact.com/media/files/obamaattyreg.pdf (PDF file)

Ray

Apollia

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Jul 5, 2008, 2:02:29 AM7/5/08
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I've been trying to make myself read Obama's book "The Audacity of
Hope" ever since I took it out of the library a couple weeks ago. I
haven't gotten far - not that it's uninteresting, but, I have other
things to do which interest me more.

I've reached page 71, and have been on the lookout for astrological
data, but unfortunately, I have run across very few specific dates -
usually, if anything, he just mentions years, and occasionally months
+years.

However, here's a specific date I found on page 15 (hardcover first
edition):

Quotes:
"I remember January 4, 2005 - the day that I and a third of the Senate
were sworn in as members of the 109th Congress - as a beautiful blur."

I'm not sure how much I can quote, but, in any case, it's not really
that interesting - a brief description of the kind of thing I wish
politicians would try to spend as little time as possible on - since
there are many more important things for politicians to do than
ceremonies, "handshakes, hugs, photographs, and autographs".

(On the other hand, maybe it's unfair to hold that against any
politician - since who knows how the public would react to a reclusive
"sourpuss" who is visibly impatient with, or tries to avoid
participating in, the traditional frivolities).

If I run into any more specific dates (month, day, year), I'll let you
know. I'm going to try to read the whole book.

----

Apollia My website: http://www.astroblahhh.com/

Birth data: -qa July 3 1981 12:50 EDT 79:59W 40:26N (Pittsburgh, PA)

Ray Murphy

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Jul 5, 2008, 4:27:44 AM7/5/08
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On Jul 5, 3:02 pm, Apollia <xerxes...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jul 3, 2:05 am, Ray Murphy <ray...@chariot.net.au> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
>
> > I started this thread for storing any event dates we come across for
> > Senator Obama.
>
> > (1) Date of admission as a lawyer in Illinois - 17th Dec, 1991.http://www.politifact.com/media/files/obamaattyreg.pdf(PDFfile)
>
> > Ray
>
> I've been trying to make myself read Obama's book "The Audacity of
> Hope" ever since I took it out of the library a couple weeks ago. I
> haven't gotten far - not that it's uninteresting, but, I have other
> things to do which interest me more.
>
> I've reached page 71, and have been on the lookout for astrological
> data, but unfortunately, I have run across very few specific dates -
> usually, if anything, he just mentions years, and occasionally months
> +years.
>
> However, here's a specific date I found on page 15 (hardcover first
> edition):
>
> Quotes:
> "I remember January 4, 2005 - the day that I and a third of the Senate
> were sworn in as members of the 109th Congress - as a beautiful blur."

[.....]

> If I run into any more specific dates (month, day, year), I'll let you
> know. I'm going to try to read the whole book.

RM: At this stage, any approximate dates are ok because they can
sometimes help to pinpoint other dates.

Here's a rough list so far:

-----------------------------------
YYYY.MM.DD - EVENT
-----------------------------------
1961.08.04 - BORN
1964.01.17 - Wife Michelle born
1967.XX.XX - Moved to Indonesia
1971.XX.XX - Returned to Hawaii
1979.00.XX - Graduated from high school
1982.XX.XX - Father died in auto accident
1983.XX.XX - Graduated from Columbia
1988.XX.XX - Travelled to Europe and Kenya.
1990.02.XX - First Black President of Harvard Law Rev.
1991.12.17 - Admitted as lawyer in Illinois
1992.10.18 - Married
1995.XX.XX - Mother died
1996.XX.XX - Elected to Senate
2005.01.04 - Sworn in is member of Congress
2005.02.01 - Met with Hillary to learn about politics
2006.01.XX - Visited Jordan, Israel & Palestinian terr.
2006.08.XX - Off. visit S.Afr,Kenya etc. Took family.
2007.06.06 - Birth record prepared for him in Hawaii
2007.10.02 - Announced nomination for Presidential race
2007.XX.XX - Oprah declared her backing
2007.12.10 - With Oprah on campaign trail
2008.02.18 - Wife Michelle said she was proud to be Amer.
XXXX.XX.XX - Media storm about Trinity minister' comments
2008.05.30 - He and Michelle resigned from Trinity church.
----------

If anyone finds any other events, slot them into this list.
Later we can put them all in an Excel document with extra details and
sources plus internet links.

Ray

elisabeth

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Jul 5, 2008, 7:43:47 AM7/5/08
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1998.07.04 - Birth of his daughter Malia
2001.06.07 - Birth of his daughter Sasha
> 2005.01.04 - Sworn in is member of Congress
> 2005.02.01 - Met with Hillary to learn about politics
> 2006.01.XX - Visited Jordan, Israel & Palestinian terr.
> 2006.08.XX - Off. visit S.Afr,Kenya etc. Took family.
> 2007.06.06 - Birth record prepared for him in Hawaii
> 2007.10.02 - Announced nomination for Presidential race
> 2007.XX.XX - Oprah declared her backing
> 2007.12.10 - With Oprah on campaign trail
> 2008.02.18 - Wife Michelle said she was proud to be Amer.
> XXXX.XX.XX - Media storm about Trinity minister' comments
> 2008.05.30 - He and Michelle resigned from Trinity church.
> ----------
>
> If anyone finds any other events, slot them into this list.
> Later we can put them all in an Excel document with extra details and
> sources plus internet links.
>
> Ray
Elisabeth

Ray Murphy

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On Jul 5, 8:43 pm, elisabeth <ekastlkillin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5 Jul., 10:27, Ray Murphy <ray...@chariot.net.au> wrote:
> > On Jul 5, 3:02 pm, Apollia <xerxes...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > On Jul 3, 2:05 am, Ray Murphy <ray...@chariot.net.au> wrote:
>
>> RM: At this stage, any approximate dates are ok because they can
>> sometimes help to pinpoint other dates.
>>
>> Here's a rough list so far:

[Updated Elisabeth, then Ray]

-----------------------------------
YYYY.MM.DD - EVENT
-----------------------------------
1894.12.24 - Maternal GGFather DUNHAM born Kansas
1915.10.03 - Maternal GGParents married
1918.03.23 - Maternal GFather born (Stanley Armour Dunham)
1922.00.00 - Maternal Gmother - Madelyn Lee Payne
1926.11.25 - Maternal GGMo died by suicide
1936.00.00 - Father born Kenya
1942.11.27 - MOTHER - (Stanley Ann Dunham) born.
19??.00.00 - Father to Hawaii to University
1960.00.00 - Parents married in Hawaii
1961.08.04 - BORN =========================
1963.00.00 - Parents divorced - Fr to Conneticut
1964.01.17 - Wife Michelle born
1967.00.00 - Obama in first grade at school in Hawaii
1967.00.00 - Mother (2nd) marriage to Lolo Soetoro
1967.00.00 - Step father ordered to leave hawaii
1967.00.00 - Mo, Step Fr and Obama to Indonesia
1970.10.04 - Maternal GGFather died
1971.00.00 - Mother sent him to Mat GMo in Hawaii
1979.00.00 - Graduated from high school
1979.00.00 - Paternal Grandfather died
1982.00.00 - Father died in auto accident Nairobi
1983.00.00 - Graduated from Columbia
1988.00.00 - Travelled to Europe and Kenya.
1990.02.00 - First Black President of Harvard Law Rev.
1991.12.17 - Admitted as lawyer in Illinois
1992.10.18 - Married
1995.11.07 - Mother died of ovarian cancer
1996.00.00 - Elected to Senate
1998.07.04 - Birth of his daughter Malia
2001.06.07 - Birth of his daughter Sasha
2005.01.04 - Sworn in is member of Congress
2005.02.01 - Met with Hillary to learn about politics
2006.01.00 - Visited Jordan, Israel & Palestinian terr.
2006.08.00 - Off. visit S.Afr,Kenya etc. Took family.
2007.06.06 - Birth record prepared for him in Hawaii
2007.10.02 - Announced nomination for Presidential race
2007.00.00 - Oprah declared her backing
2007.12.10 - With Oprah on campaign trail
2008.02.18 - Wife Michelle said she was proud to be Amer.
2008.00.00 - Media storm about Trinity minister' comments
2008.05.30 - He and Michelle resigned from Trinity church.
----------

>> If anyone finds any other events, slot them into this list.
>> Later we can put them all in an Excel document with extra details
>> and sources plus internet links.

> Elisabeth

Ray

Terri

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On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Ray Murphy <ray...@chariot.net.au> wrote:
 
<snip>
 

Here's a rough list so far:

-----------------------------------
YYYY.MM.DD - EVENT
-----------------------------------

<snip>


1964.01.17 - Wife Michelle born

Where?  

1967.XX.XX - Moved to Indonesia

Where in Indonesia?  

1971.XX.XX - Returned to Hawaii 
1979.00.XX - Graduated from high school

Where?  In Hawaii?  What city? 

1982.XX.XX - Father died in auto accident

Where? 
 
1983.XX.XX - Graduated from Columbia
1988.XX.XX - Travelled to Europe and Kenya.
1990.02.XX - First Black President of Harvard Law Rev.

Obama's mother was white.  That means Obama is not "black" per se. 

1991.12.17 - Admitted as lawyer in Illinois

Where?  

1992.10.18 - Married

 Where?  Chicago? 

1995.XX.XX - Mother died

Where? 

1996.XX.XX - Elected to Senate
2005.01.04 - Sworn in is member of Congress
2005.02.01 - Met with Hillary to learn about politics

Where?  

2006.01.XX - Visited Jordan, Israel & Palestinian terr.
2006.08.XX - Off. visit S.Afr,Kenya etc. Took family.
2007.06.06 - Birth record prepared for him in Hawaii

Proof?  Who prepared it?

2007.10.02 - Announced nomination for Presidential race

Springfield, IL  

2007.XX.XX - Oprah declared her backing

In Chicago? 

2007.12.10 - With Oprah on campaign trail

Where?  

2008.02.18 - Wife Michelle said she was proud to be Amer.

Not what she said.  She said for the FIRST TIME she was proud to be an American.  At least get the quotes right. 

XXXX.XX.XX - Media storm about Trinity minister' comments

Not even a date here...how is that helpful in running any kind of chart or for rectification purposes? 

2008.05.30 - He and Michelle resigned from Trinity church.

----------

If anyone finds any other events, slot them into this list.
Later we can put them all in an Excel document with extra details and
sources plus internet links.

I'll see if I can find the data for when Obama referred to his white grandma as "a typical white woman."  There's other campaign quotes of his that might be equally telling...err...useful.  <g>

Some places aren't necessary for rectification (while some are).  Unless you gather all the data what's the point of even doing this? 

Respectfully,

Terri

Terri

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On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Ray Murphy <ray...@chariot.net.au> wrote:

On Jul 5, 8:43 pm, elisabeth <ekastlkillin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5 Jul., 10:27, Ray Murphy <ray...@chariot.net.au> wrote:
> > On Jul 5, 3:02 pm, Apollia <xerxes...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > On Jul 3, 2:05 am, Ray Murphy <ray...@chariot.net.au> wrote:
>
>> RM: At this stage, any approximate dates are ok because they can
>> sometimes help to pinpoint other dates.
>>
>> Here's a rough list so far:

[Updated Elisabeth, then Ray]

-----------------------------------
 YYYY.MM.DD - EVENT
-----------------------------------
1894.12.24 - Maternal GGFather DUNHAM born Kansas
1915.10.03 - Maternal GGParents married

Where? 

1918.03.23 - Maternal GFather born (Stanley Armour Dunham)

Where?  

1922.00.00 - Maternal Gmother - Madelyn Lee Payne

Where? 

1926.11.25 - Maternal GGMo died by suicide

Where?  

1936.00.00 - Father born Kenya
1942.11.27 - MOTHER - (Stanley Ann Dunham) born.

Where?  

19??.00.00 - Father to Hawaii to University
1960.00.00 - Parents married in Hawaii

Proof?  So far a s I know no wedding certificate has ever been provided or found.

1961.08.04 - BORN ========================= 

1963.00.00 - Parents divorced - Fr to Conneticut

Divorced where?  Chances are they were never legally married in the first place.  Father had another wife in Kenya before coming to US. 

1964.01.17 - Wife Michelle born

Where?  

1967.00.00 - Obama in first grade at school in Hawaii
1967.00.00 - Mother (2nd) marriage to Lolo Soetoro

Where? 

1967.00.00 - Step father ordered to leave hawaii
1967.00.00 - Mo, Step Fr and Obama to Indonesia
1970.10.04 - Maternal GGFather died

Where?  

1971.00.00 - Mother sent him to Mat GMo in Hawaii
1979.00.00 - Graduated from high school

Hawaii?  What city? 

1979.00.00 - Paternal Grandfather died

Where?  

1982.00.00 - Father died in auto accident Nairobi
1983.00.00 - Graduated from Columbia
1988.00.00 - Travelled to Europe and Kenya.
1990.02.00 - First Black President of Harvard Law Rev.

He's not black with a white mother and white grandparents. 

1991.12.17 - Admitted as lawyer in Illinois
1992.10.18 - Married

Where?  Chicago? 

1995.11.07 - Mother died of ovarian cancer

Where?  

1996.00.00 - Elected to Senate
1998.07.04 - Birth of his daughter Malia

Where?  

2001.06.07 - Birth of his daughter Sasha

Where?  

2005.01.04 - Sworn in is member of Congress
2005.02.01 - Met with Hillary to learn about politics

Where?

2006.01.00 - Visited Jordan, Israel & Palestinian terr.
2006.08.00 - Off. visit S.Afr,Kenya etc. Took family.
2007.06.06 - Birth record prepared for him in Hawaii

Proof?  Who prepared it?  

2007.10.02 - Announced nomination for Presidential race

Springfield, IL 

2007.00.00 - Oprah declared her backing

Where?  Chicago?

2007.12.10 - With Oprah on campaign trail

Where? 

2008.02.18 - Wife Michelle said she was proud to be Amer.

Misquote.  

2008.00.00 - Media storm about Trinity minister' comments

All of 2008?  Are we rewriting history here every day now?  

2008.05.30 - He and Michelle resigned from Trinity church.
 ----------

Accuracy with dates and events is essential to a good rectification.  HTH. 

Terri

Ray Murphy

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Jul 5, 2008, 1:18:53 PM7/5/08
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RM: This is only a preliminary list, and as a specialist in
rectification for 20+ years I don't need any advice.

Ray

Todd Carnes

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Jul 5, 2008, 1:28:15 PM7/5/08
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Now Ray, you DID pretty much say anything goes on this list. :)
 
Todd
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----- Original Message -----
From: Ray Murphy
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: Senator Obama's event dates for rectification
 
[snip]

Ray Murphy

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Jul 5, 2008, 1:45:08 PM7/5/08
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On Jul 6, 2:28 am, "Todd Carnes" <toddcar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> RM: This is only a preliminary list, and as a specialist in
> rectification for 20+ years I don't need any advice.
>
> Ray

> Now Ray, you DID pretty much say anything goes on this list. :)
>
> Todd

RM: Hey, I'm not suggesting that anyone should restrict their
communication. In the case of the 'rectification advice' issue, it was
more of a statement of fact than anything else. I'm quite happy to
listen to advice, but I was pointing out that I don't actually need
it.

One problem with event dates for rectification is that when we use a
lot of them for any rectification attempt, 95% of them don't have
times, so that equates with a larger error (on average) than we get by
not having locations. In this case however, as I said earlier, I'll be
starting an Excel file [for everyone to use and update] so that we can
enter a lot more detail - and where locations and times are available
they can be used for any fine tuning after we get in the ballpark with
the less accurate events.

Ray

Ray Murphy

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Jul 6, 2008, 11:30:53 AM7/6/08
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On Jul 5, 9:35 pm, Ray Murphy <ray...@chariot.net.au> wrote:
> On Jul 5, 8:43 pm, elisabeth <ekastlkillin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 5 Jul., 10:27, Ray Murphy <ray...@chariot.net.au> wrote:
> > > On Jul 5, 3:02 pm, Apollia <xerxes...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > On Jul 3, 2:05 am, Ray Murphy <ray...@chariot.net.au> wrote:

[UPDATED]
-----------------------------------
YYYY.MM.DD - EVENT
-----------------------------------
1894.12.24 - Maternal GGFather DUNHAM born Kansas
1915.10.03 - Maternal GGParents married
1918.03.23 - Maternal GFather born (Stanley Armour Dunham)
1922.00.00 - Maternal Gmother - Madelyn Lee Payne
1926.11.25 - Maternal GGMo died by suicide
1936.00.00 - Father born Kenya
1940.05.05 - Maternal grandparents married
1942.11.27 - MOTHER - (Stanley Ann Dunham) born.
1958.00.00 - Mother and parents to Hawaii from Kansas
1958.00.00 - Mother enrolled at University in Hawaii
19xx.00.00 - Father won scholarship to Hawaii to University
1960.12.04 - Approx conception (after mother's 18th birthday)
1960.00.00 - Parents married in Hawaii (proof?)
1961.08.04 - BORN =========================
1961.08.19 - Mother and baby ro Kansa to vist extend family
1963.00.00 - Parents divorced (proof?) - Fr to Connecticut
1964.01.17 - Wife Michelle born
1967.00.00 - Obama in first grade at school in Hawaii
1967.00.00 - Mother (2nd) marriage to Lolo Soetoro
1967.00.00 - Step father ordered to leave Hawaii
1967.00.00 - Mother, Step Fr and Obama to Indonesia
1970.10.04 - Maternal GGFather in Hawaii died
1971.00.00 - Mother sent him to Mat GMo in Hawaii
1972.00.00 - Mother returned to Hawaii from Indonesia
1977.00.00 - Mother got PHd in anthroplogy in Hawaii
1977.00.00 - Mother left Hawaii when he was 16 for career
1979.00.00 - Graduated from high school
1979.00.00 - Paternal Grandfather died
1982.00.00 - Father died in auto accident Nairobi
1983.00.00 - Graduated from Columbia
1987.00.00 - Indonesian step-father died
1988.00.00 - Travelled to Europe and Kenya.
1990.02.00 - First Black President of Harvard Law Rev.
1991.12.17 - Admitted as lawyer in Illinois
1992.02.08 - Maternal G'randfather died in Honololu
1992.10.18 - Married
1995.07.18 - Book published
1995.11.07 - Mother died of ovarian cancer
1996.00.00 - Elected to Illinois Senate
1998.07.04 - Birth of his daughter Malia
2001.06.07 - Birth of his daughter Sasha
2002.10.02 - Obama's 2002 speech against war
2004.07.27 - Keynote Address DNC
2004.11.02 - Elected to U.S. Senate
2005.01.04 - Sworn in is member of Congress
2005.02.01 - Met with Hillary to learn about politics
2005.06.27 - Speech to Library Association
2006.01.00 - Visited Jordan, Israel & Palestinian terr.
2006.08.00 - Off. visit S.Afr,Kenya etc. Took family.
2006.10.17 - Book published
2007.01.16 - Announced 1st step for possible candidacy
2007.05.01 - Oprah backs Obama on Larry King show
2007.06.06 - Birth record prepared for him in Hawaii
2007.02.10 - Announced nomination for Presidential race
2007.12.10 - With Oprah on campaign trail
2008.02.18 - Wife Michelle said she was proud to be Amer.
2008.00.00 - Media storm about Trinity minister' comments
2008.05.30 - He and Michelle resigned from Trinity church.
2008.06.03 - Enough votes to be Presumptive Nominee
2008.06.12 - Put birth record online to stop the smears
> ----------

If anyone finds any other events or corrections, slot them into this
list.
Later we can put them all in an Excel document with extra details
and sources plus internet links.

Ray

Ray Murphy

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Jul 8, 2008, 1:11:06 PM7/8/08
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On Jul 7, 12:30 am, Ray Murphy <ray...@chariot.net.au> wrote:
> On Jul 5, 9:35 pm, Ray Murphy <ray...@chariot.net.au> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 5, 8:43 pm, elisabeth <ekastlkillin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 5 Jul., 10:27, Ray Murphy <ray...@chariot.net.au> wrote:
> > > > On Jul 5, 3:02 pm, Apollia <xerxes...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Jul 3, 2:05 am, Ray Murphy <ray...@chariot.net.au> wrote:

UPDATED

> -----------------------------------
> YYYY.MM.DD - EVENT
> -----------------------------------
1894.12.24 - Maternal GGFather DUNHAM born Kansas
1915.10.03 - Maternal GGParents married
1918.03.23 - Maternal GFather born (Stanley Armour Dunham)
1922.00.00 - Maternal Gmother - Madelyn Lee Payne
1926.11.25 - Maternal GGMo died by suicide
1936.00.00 - Father born Kenya
1940.05.05 - Maternal grandparents married
1942.11.27 - MOTHER - (Stanley Ann Dunham) born.
1958.00.00 - Mother and parents to Hawaii from Kansas
1958.00.00 - Mother enrolled at University in Hawaii
19xx.00.00 - Father won scholarship to Hawaii to University
1960.12.04 - Approx conception (after mother's 18th birthday)
1960.00.00 - Parents married in Hawaii (proof?)
1961.08.04 - BORN =========================
1961.00.00 - Obama's G'father wrote objecting to marriage
1961.02.02 - Obama's parents married at Maui, Hawaii
1961.08.19 - Mother and baby ro Kansa to vist extend family
1963.00.00 - Parents divorced (proof?) - Fr to Connecticut
1964.01.17 - Wife Michelle born
1967.00.00 - Obama in first grade at school in Hawaii
1967.00.00 - Mother 2nd marriage to Lolo Soetoro
1967.00.00 - Step father ordered to leave Hawaii
1967.00.00 - Mother, Step Fr and Obama to Indonesia
1970.08.15 - Sister born in Indonesia
1970.10.04 - Maternal Great GFather died
1971.00.00 - Mother sent him to Mat GMo in Hawaii
1972.00.00 - Mother returned to Hawaii from Indonesia
1977.00.00 - Mother got PHd in anthroplogy in Hawaii
1977.00.00 - Mother left Hawaii when he was 16 for career
1979.00.00 - Graduated from high school
1979.00.00 - Paternal Grandfather died
1982.00.00 - Father died in auto accident Nairobi
1983.00.00 - Graduated from Columbia
1987.00.00 - Indonesian step-father died
1988.00.00 - Travelled to Europe and Kenya.
1990.02.00 - First Black President of Harvard Law Rev.
1991.12.17 - Admitted as lawyer in Illinois
1992.02.08 - Maternal G'randfather died in Honololu
1992.10.18 - Married
1995.07.18 - Book published
1995.11.07 - Mother died of ovarian cancer, Hawaii
1996.00.00 - Elected to Illinois Senate
1998.07.04 - Birth of his daughter Malia
2001.06.07 - Birth of his daughter Sasha
2002.10.02 - Obama's 2002 speech against war
2004.07.27 - Keynote Address DNC
2004.11.02 - Elected to U.S. Senate
2005.01.04 - Sworn in is member of Congress
2005.02.01 - Met with Hillary to learn about politics
2005.06.27 - Speech to Library Association
2006.01.00 - Visited Jordan, Israel & Palestinian terr.
2006.08.00 - Off. visit S.Afr,Kenya etc. Took family.
2006.10.17 - Book published
2007.01.16 - Announced 1st step for possible candidacy
2007.02.10 - Announced nomination for Presidential race
2007.05.01 - Oprah backs Obama on Larry King show
2007.06.06 - Birth record prepared for him in Hawaii
2007.12.10 - With Oprah on campaign trail
2008.02.18 - Wife Michelle said she was proud to be Amer.
2008.00.00 - Media storm about Trinity minister' comments
2008.05.30 - He and Michelle resigned from Trinity church.
2008.06.03 - Enough votes to be Presumptive Nominee
2008.06.12 - Put birth record online to stop the smears


If anyone finds any other events or corrections, slot them into this
list.
Later we can put them all in an Excel document with extra details
and sources plus internet links.

[UPDATE] - Added
* Sister's birth date, 1970
* Obama's parents marriage 2nd Feb, 1970 Maui, Hawaii
* Obama's grandfather wrote objecting furiously to his son marrying a
white woman.

Ray




Apollia

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I still haven't read much beyond P. 71 of Obama's book, but, here's
what I found so far.
1984.00.00 - In "The Audacity of Hope", P. 43, the first sentence of
Chapter Two says the first time Obama saw the White House was in
1984. He had recently graduated from college, and with a group of
student leaders, he was "working as a community organizer out of the
Harlem campus of the City College of New York." They were trying to
get petitions signed to oppose some student aid cuts proposed by
President Reagan. The petitions were going to be delivered to the New
York congressional delegation.

> 1987.00.00 - Indonesian step-father died
> 1988.00.00 - Travelled to Europe and Kenya.
> 1990.02.00 - First Black President of Harvard Law Rev.
> 1991.12.17 - Admitted as lawyer in Illinois
> 1992.02.08 - Maternal G'randfather died in Honololu

????.00.00 - He took Michelle to Kenya shortly before they were
married. Source: P. 53, "The Audacity of Hope".

> 1992.10.18 - Married
> 1995.07.18 - Book published
> 1995.11.07 - Mother died of ovarian cancer, Hawaii
> 1996.00.00 - Elected to Illinois Senate

1997.00.00 - Arrived in Springfield in 1997. Source: P. 17, "The
Audacity of Hope".

1997.00.00 - "I first traveled through southern Illinois in 1997. It
was the summer after my first term in the Illinois legislature, and
Michelle and I were not yet parents." Source: P. 49, "The Audacity of
Hope".

> 1998.07.04 - Birth of his daughter Malia

2000.00.00 - Obama's one loss in politics (according to "The
Audacity of Hope", released sometime in 2006) was in 2000, when he
lost to incumbent Democratic Congressman Bobby Rush. Source: P. 105,
"The Audacity of Hope".

> 2001.06.07 - Birth of his daughter Sasha

2001.09.00 - Obama had lunch with a media consultant "who had been
encouraging me for some time to run for statewide office. As it
happened, the lunch was scheduled for late September 2001." Source:
P. 3, "The Audacity of Hope".

2002.00.00 - In 2002, Obama gave a speech at one of the first
antiwar rallies in Chicago, criticizing the idea of an invasion of
Iraq, and questioning the evidence of weapons of mass destruction.
Source: P. 47, "The Audacity of Hope".

> 2002.10.02 - Obama's 2002 speech against war

2004.00.00 - Entered the 2004 U.S. Senate race. Source: P. 18, "The
Audacity of Hope".

2004.00.00 - During Obama's general election campaign for the U. S.
Senate, his Republican opponent Ryan told assigned a young man to
follow Obama around and film all his public appearances, and the
"tracking came to resemble stalking." For about 2 or 3 days, Obama
was followed practically everywhere from a distance of 5-10 feet from
morning to night. Finally, Obama got tired of this and walked into
the press office of the state capitol building, attracted the
attention of reporters having lunch there, and introduced them to the
young man. "By six o'clock, the story of Justin was on most local
broadcasts. The story ended up blanketing the state for a week".
After several days, the opponent (whose campaign was damaged by having
Obama obnoxiously followed) succumbed to pressure, apologized, and
told Justin to back up a few feet. Source: P. 64-65, "The Audacity of
Hope". It's unclear from the book what year this was but I'm guessing
2004, judging by this news story about Obama and Ryan:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-0406140156jun14,0,4668034,full.story

> 2004.07.27 - Keynote Address DNC

> 2004.11.02 - Elected to U.S. Senate

P. 18, "The Audacity of Hope", regarding his Senate win - "There was
just one problem: My campaign had gone so well that it looked like a
fluke." [...] "Later, some reporters would declare me the luckiest
politician in the entire fifty states." I wonder if he had good
Jupiter transits at that time, or something.

---

2005.01.03 - "on a cold January afternoon", the day before he was
sworn in to the Senate, he visited the White House. He met and talked
to George and Laura Bush there. Source: P. 44, "The Audacity of
Hope".

Also on P. 44, Obama mentioned within parentheses that it wasn't until
several months later that he got to see the Lincoln Bedroom, "a modest
space with antique furniture, a four-poster bed, an original copy of
the Gettysburg Address discreetly displayed under glass - and a big
flat-screen TV set atop one of the desks." :-)

> 2005.01.04 - Sworn in is member of Congress
> 2005.02.01 - Met with Hillary to learn about politics

2005.03.00 - In early March 2005, Obama was heading to the Senate
floor and was stopped by a young man who led Obama over to his parents
and said they traveled from Florida in the hope of saving Terri
Schiavo (a comatose or nearly comatose woman who was going to be taken
off life support). He "told them there was little precedent for
Congress intervening in such cases - not realizing at the time that
Tom DeLay and Bill Frist made their own precedent." Source: P. 77-78,
"The Audacity of Hope".

> 2005.06.27 - Speech to Library Association

2005.09.00 - He sent a letter to "the left-leaning blog Daily Kos in
September 2005". Source: P. 41, "The Audacity of Hope".

> 2006.01.00 - Visited Jordan, Israel & Palestinian terr.
> 2006.08.00 - Off. visit S.Afr,Kenya etc. Took family.
> 2006.10.17 - Book published
> 2007.01.16 - Announced 1st step for possible candidacy
> 2007.02.10 - Announced nomination for Presidential race
> 2007.05.01 - Oprah backs Obama on Larry King show
> 2007.06.06 - Birth record prepared for him in Hawaii
> 2007.12.10 - With Oprah on campaign trail
> 2008.02.18 - Wife Michelle said she was proud to be Amer.
> 2008.00.00 - Media storm about Trinity minister' comments
> 2008.05.30 - He and Michelle resigned from Trinity church.
> 2008.06.03 - Enough votes to be Presumptive Nominee
> 2008.06.12 - Put birth record online to stop the smears
>
> If anyone finds any other events or corrections, slot them into this
> list.
> Later we can put them all in an Excel document with extra details
> and sources plus internet links.
>
> [UPDATE] - Added
> * Sister's birth date, 1970
> * Obama's parents marriage 2nd Feb, 1970 Maui, Hawaii
> * Obama's grandfather wrote objecting furiously to his son marrying a
> white woman.
>
> Ray

I'll probably end up posting more later on. I hope to finish reading
this book before 7/19 so I don't have to check it out of the library
for a third time. :-) It's surprisingly sparse with dates - or maybe
not so surprisingly, since I guess the less specific politicians get,
the less they can be accused of lying if they made a mistake.

Apollia

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On Jul 11, 5:54 am, Apollia <xerxes...@aol.com> wrote:

> 2005.01.03 - "on a cold January afternoon", the day before he was
> sworn in to the Senate, he visited the White House. He met and talked
> to George and Laura Bush there. Source: P. 44, "The Audacity of
> Hope".

Oops, P. 44-47, sorry.

Apollia

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On Jul 11, 5:54 am, Apollia <xerxes...@aol.com> wrote:

> 2002.00.00 - In 2002, Obama gave a speech at one of the first
> antiwar rallies in Chicago, criticizing the idea of an invasion of
> Iraq, and questioning the evidence of weapons of mass destruction.
> Source: P. 47, "The Audacity of Hope".

I forgot to add that he said he did this just before announcing his
Senate campaign.

OK, I think that's hopefully the last of the mistakes. I sure wish it
was legal to just directly quote as much as I liked without
paraphrasing, since it might prevent some errors, but, oh, well.

Ray Murphy

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On Jul 9, 2:11 am, Ray Murphy <ray...@chariot.net.au> wrote:
> On Jul 7, 12:30 am, Ray Murphy <ray...@chariot.net.au> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 5, 9:35 pm, Ray Murphy <ray...@chariot.net.au> wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 5, 8:43 pm, elisabeth <ekastlkillin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On 5 Jul., 10:27, Ray Murphy <ray...@chariot.net.au> wrote:
> > > > > On Jul 5, 3:02 pm, Apollia <xerxes...@aol.com> wrote:

UPDATED

-----------------------------------
YYYY.MM.DD - EVENT
-----------------------------------

1894.12.24 - Maternal GGFather DUNHAM born Kansas
1915.10.03 - Maternal GGParents married
1918.03.23 - Maternal GFather born (Stanley Armour Dunham)
1922.00.00 - Maternal Gmother - Madelyn Lee Payne
1926.11.25 - Maternal GGMo died by suicide
1936.00.00 - Father born Kenya
1940.05.05 - Maternal grandparents married
1942.11.27 - MOTHER - (Stanley Ann Dunham) born.
1958.00.00 - Mother and parents to Hawaii from Kansas
1958.00.00 - Mother enrolled at University in Hawaii
19xx.00.00 - Father won scholarship to Hawaii to University
1960.11.04 - Approx conception (after mother's 18th birthday)
1960.00.00 - Parents married in Hawaii (proof?)
1961.00.00 - Obama's G'father wrote objecting to marriage
1961.02.02 - Obama's parents married at Maui, Hawaii
1961.08.04 - BORN =========================
1961.08.19 - Mother and baby ro Kansas to vist extend family
1963.00.00 - Parents divorced (proof?) - Fr to Connecticut
1964.01.17 - Wife Michelle born
1967.00.00 - Obama in first grade at school in Hawaii
1967.00.00 - Mother 2nd marriage to Lolo Soetoro
1967.00.00 - Step father ordered to leave Hawaii
1967.00.00 - Mother, Step Fr and Obama to Indonesia
1970.08.15 - Sister born in Indonesia
1970.00.00 - Grandmother made V.Pres of bank in Hawaii
1970.10.04 - Maternal Great GFather died
1971.00.00 - Mother sent him to Mat GMo in Hawaii
1972.00.00 - Mother returned to Hawaii from Indonesia
1977.00.00 - Mother got PHd in anthroplogy in Hawaii
1977.00.00 - Mother left Hawaii when he was 16 for career
1979.00.00 - Graduated from high school
1979.00.00 - Paternal Grandfather died
1982.00.00 - Father died in auto accident Nairobi
1983.00.00 - Graduated from Columbia
1984.00.00 - First saw the WhiteHouse
1987.00.00 - Indonesian step-father died
1988.00.00 - Travelled to Europe and Kenya.
1990.02.00 - First Black President of Harvard Law Rev.
1991.12.17 - Admitted as lawyer in Illinois
1992.02.08 - Maternal G'randfather died in Honololu
1992.10.18 - Married
1995.07.18 - Book published
1995.11.07 - Mother died of ovarian cancer, Hawaii
1996.00.00 - Elected to Illinois Senate
1997.00.00 - Arrived in Springfield
1997.00.00 - "I first traveled through southern Illinois in 1997"
1998.07.04 - Birth of his daughter Malia
2000.00.00 - Lost to incumbent Dem Congr'man Bobby Rush
2001.06.07 - Birth of his daughter Sasha
2001.09.00 - Obama had lunch with a media consultant
2002.10.02 - Obama's 2002 speech against war
2004.07.27 - Keynote Address DNC
2004.11.02 - Elected to U.S. Senate
2005.01.03 - He met and talked to George and Laura Bush.
2005.01.04 - Sworn in is member of Congress
2005.02.01 - Met with Hillary to learn about politics
2005.03.00 - In early March 2005 - Terri Schiavo request
2005.06.27 - Speech to Library Association
2005.09.00 - He sent a letter to "the left-leaning blog Daily Kos".
2006.01.00 - Visited Jordan, Israel & Palestinian terr.
2006.08.00 - Off. visit S.Afr,Kenya etc. Took family.
2006.10.17 - Book published
2007.01.16 - Announced 1st step for possible candidacy
2007.02.10 - Announced nomination for Presidential race
2007.05.01 - Oprah backs Obama on Larry King show
2007.06.06 - Birth record prepared for him in Hawaii
2007.12.10 - With Oprah on campaign trail
2008.02.18 - Wife Michelle said she was proud to be Amer.
2008.00.00 - Media storm about Trinity minister' comments
2008.05.30 - He and Michelle resigned from Trinity church.
2008.06.03 - Enough votes to be Presumptive Nominee
2008.06.12 - Put birth record online to stop the smears

[Most of Apollia's additions included, plus minor corrections]

> If anyone finds any other events or corrections, slot them into this
> list.
> Later we can put them all in an Excel document with extra details
> and sources plus internet links.

Ray
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Apollia

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On Jul 11, 6:33 am, Ray Murphy <ray...@chariot.net.au> wrote:

[...]

> [Most of Apollia's additions included, plus minor corrections]

Wow, you work fast. :-)

Next time, I'll write up some short summaries and put the longer
descriptions and sources separate from the main list, to save you from
the trouble.

Already, I have another addition - something I overlooked before.

Obama mentioned he had two previous encounters with the President
before meeting him in the afternoon on Jan. 3, 2005. The first was "a
brief congratulatory call after the election", and the second was "a
small White House breakfast with me and the other incoming senators."
Source: P. 45, "The Audacity of Hope".

The details aren't as specific as I would like, but at least that
narrows down his first contact with George W. Bush to a fairly narrow
range of time, somewhere between "2004.11.02 - Elected to U.S. Senate"
and the afternoon of Jan. 3, 2005 - which might be of some
astrological interest to anyone who likes to look at the charts for
the dates/times/locations when two people first interacted, met, etc.

Short one-line summary inserted below.
2004?.00.00 - Received congratulatory call from George Bush sometime
after the election.
2004 or 2005 - Met Bush at a small White House breakfast with other
incoming senators.
Bye for now,

Apollia

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Well, I finished reading "The Audacity of Hope" - just rushed through
it yesterday, partly because I just wanted to be done with it, and
partly because it turned out to be more interesting to read than I
expected.

I ended up finding more event info than I thought was there, though
not a huge amount. I'm guessing Obama's first book, "Dreams from My
Father", probably has a lot more autobiographical stuff in it.

-----------

Source: "The Audacity of Hope", 2006, hardcover first edition.

P. 99. Obama decided not to be a part of the "Gang of Fourteen",
which was 7 Democratic Senators and 7 Republican Senators who were
negotiating something related to George W. Bush's nominees to the
federal court of appeals. The Democrats wanted to filibuster while
the Republicans wanted to permanently eliminate the filibuster. I
don't know much about politics, so I don't know if this was anything
really important or not. Not sure of the date either, maybe 2005?
Don't know. I didn't insert this in the main list.

P. 106. Oct. 1999, Obama heard a news flash on the radio that his
opponent Congressman Rush's adult son having been shot and killed by
drug dealers outside his house. Shocked, Obama "effectively
suspended" his campaign for a month.

P. 106. During the Christmas holidays, when daughter Malia was 18
months old (so I guess this was Dec. 1999), Obama went to Hawaii for 5
days to be with his wife, grandmother, and Malia. The state
legislature was called into special session to vote on some gun
control legislation. Malia was sick so Obama stayed in Hawaii and
missed the vote. Two days later, he returned from his trip, and saw a
front-page story in the Chicago Tribune which pointed out that the
bill failed by only a few votes and said that Obama had "decided to
remain on vacation" in Hawaii.

P. 122. In April 2005, he gave a speech to dedicate the new Lincoln
Presidential Library in Springfield.

P. 122-123. A few months later, Time magazine, which was doing a
special issue on Lincoln, asked him if he wanted to write an essay.
He used a slightly modified version of his speech. Soon after it
appeared, Peggy Noonan, columnist for the Wall Street Journal, harshly
criticized Obama's Lincoln essay in an article titled "Conceit of
Government".

P. 165. He attended the 2006 Northwestern University commencement.

P. 170. In the summer of 2005, Obama and Senator Dick Lugar visited
Ukraine and met with Viktor Yushchenko, Ukraine's newly elected
president. P. 311 mentions that this was August 2005, and Obama's
first trip to Russia and Ukraine. P. 229, "I had been out of the
country when the hurricane first hit the Gulf, on my way back from a
trip to Russia."

P. 186. When daughter Sasha was three months old, she got
meningitis. Obama and Michelle spent 3 days with Sasha in the
hospital while she was treated.

P. 224. In 2004, he visited the Sixteenth Street Baptist Church in
Birmingham, Alabama before delivering a speech at the city's Civil
Rights Institute.

P. 228-229. One week after the initial Hurricane Katrina tragedy,
Obama joined Bill and Hillary Clinton ad George H. W. Bush and Barbara
Bush in Houston to announce fundraising efforts. He visited some of
the evacuees at the Houston Astrodome and adjoining Reliant Center.

P. 227-230. He attended the funeral of Rosa Parks. (11/2/2005) I
found out the date here: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-11-02-rosa-parks_x.htm

P. 273. In 1967, arrived in Jakarta with his mother.

P. 290. "In January 2006, I boarded a C-130 military cargo plane and
took off for my first trip into Iraq." Went with Senator Evan Bayh of
Indiana and Congressman Harold Ford, Jr. of Tennessee. According to
page 296, he only spent a day and a half in Iraq, most of it in the
Green Zone, a 10 mile wide area of central Baghdad. P. 322, he
mentions that on this same trip he "spent a week traveling through
both Israel and the West Bank, meeting with officials from both
sides".

P. 293. Here, unusually, he named a complete date. "And on October
11, 2002, twenty-eight of the Senate's fifty Democrats joined all but
one Republican in handing to Bush the power he wanted." The
Republicans had pushed for a vote authorizing the use of force against
Saddam Hussein. I assume Obama voted against that.

P. 293-294. Mentions that by fall of 2002, Obama had already decided
to run for the Senate.

P. 294-295, he wrote a bit about the anti-war speech he gave in
October 2002 before about 2,000 people at Chicago's Federal Plaza.

P. 327. Met Michelle in summer of 1988. Both were working at "Sidley
& Austin, a large corporate law firm based in Chicago".

P. 332. 6 months after Obama met Michelle, Michelle's father died.
Obama and Michelle attended the funeral in Chicago.

P. 354. He gave a speech at the 2004 Democratic Convention in Boston,
and called this "the point at which I first gained national
attention." P. 357, he mentioned he made his first appearance on Tim
Russert's show Meet the Press when he went to Boston.

P. 354. He had been to one previous Democratic convention, the 2000
Democratic Convention in Los Angeles. He had just been defeated in
the Democratic primary for the Illinois First Congressional District
seat.


Shorter summaries inserted below.
1967.00.00 - Arrived in Jakarta with his mother.

>1967.00.00 - Mother, Step Fr and Obama to Indonesia
>1970.08.15 - Sister born in Indonesia
>1970.00.00 - Grandmother made V.Pres of bank in Hawaii
>1970.10.04 - Maternal Great GFather died
>1971.00.00 - Mother sent him to Mat GMo in Hawaii
>1972.00.00 - Mother returned to Hawaii from Indonesia
>1977.00.00 - Mother got PHd in anthroplogy in Hawaii
>1977.00.00 - Mother left Hawaii when he was 16 for career
>1979.00.00 - Graduated from high school
>1979.00.00 - Paternal Grandfather died
>1982.00.00 - Father died in auto accident Nairobi
>1983.00.00 - Graduated from Columbia
>1984.00.00 - First saw the WhiteHouse
>1987.00.00 - Indonesian step-father died

1988.00.00 - Summer of 1988, met future wife Michelle while both were
working at "Sidley & Austin, a large corporate law firm based in
Chicago".

>1988.00.00 - Travelled to Europe and Kenya.
>1990.02.00 - First Black President of Harvard Law Rev.
>1991.12.17 - Admitted as lawyer in Illinois
>1992.02.08 - Maternal G'randfather died in Honololu
>1992.10.18 - Married
>1995.07.18 - Book published
>1995.11.07 - Mother died of ovarian cancer, Hawaii
>1996.00.00 - Elected to Illinois Senate
>1997.00.00 - Arrived in Springfield
>1997.00.00 - "I first traveled through southern Illinois in 1997"
>1998.07.04 - Birth of his daughter Malia

1999.10.00 - After hearing about the death of opponent Congressman
Rush's son, Obama "effectively suspended" his campaign for a month.

1999.12.27? (just guessing the day) - Obama was criticized in a front
page news story in the Chicago Tribune for being in Hawaii and missing
out on a special session vote at the state legislature where a bill
failed by only a few votes.

>2000.00.00 - Lost to incumbent Dem Congr'man Bobby Rush

2000.00.00 - After his defeat in the Democratic primary for the
Illinois First Congressional seat, he went to the 2000 Democratic
Convention in Los Angeles.

>2001.06.07 - Birth of his daughter Sasha

2001.09.00 - Daughter Sasha had meningitis, and Obama and wife
Michelle spent 3 days with Sasha in the hospital while she was
treated.

>2001.09.00 - Obama had lunch with a media consultant
>2002.10.02 - Obama's 2002 speech against war

2002.10.11 - 28 out of 50 Democrats in the Senate (but probably not
Obama) voted to authorize the use of force against Saddam Hussein.

2004.00.00 - Visited the Sixteenth Street Baptist Church in
Birmingham, Alabama, before delivering a speech at the city's Civil
Rights Institute.

2004.00.00 - Speech at the 2004 Democratic Convention in Boston. In
his book, he called this "the point at which I first gained national
attention." Around this time, he also made his first appearance on
Tim Russert's show Meet the Press.

>2004.07.27 - Keynote Address DNC
>2004.11.02 - Elected to U.S. Senate

2004?.00.00 - Received congratulatory call from George Bush sometime
after winning the election.
2004 or 2005 - Met Bush at a small White House breakfast with other
incoming senators.

>2005.01.03 - He met and talked to George and Laura Bush.
>2005.01.04 - Sworn in is member of Congress
>2005.02.01 - Met with Hillary to learn about politics
>2005.03.00 - In early March 2005 - Terri Schiavo request

2005.04.00 - Gave a speech to dedicate the new Lincoln Presidential
Library in Springfield.

>2005.06.27 - Speech to Library Association

2005.07?.00 - Time magazine asked Obama to write an essay for a
special issue on Lincoln.

2005.07?.00 - Peggy Noonan harshly criticized Obama's Lincoln essay in
an article called "Conceit of Government".

2005.08.00 - Obama and Senator Dick Lugar visited Ukraine and met with
Viktor Yushchenko, Ukraine's newly elected president. Obama's first
trip to Russia and Ukraine. Was on his way back from this trip when
Hurricane Katrina happened.

2005.08 or 09?.00 - Joined Bill and Hillary Clinton ad George H. W.
Bush and Barbara Bush in Houston to announce fundraising efforts to
help the victims of Hurricane Katrina. Visited some of the evacuees
at the Houston Astrodome and adjoining Reliant Center.

>2005.09.00 - He sent a letter to "the left-leaning blog Daily Kos".

2005.11.02 - Attended funeral of Rosa Parks.

2006.00.00 - Attended the 2006 Northwestern University commencement.

2006.01.00 - "In January 2006, I boarded a C-130 military cargo plane
and took off for my first trip into Iraq." Spent a day and a half in
Baghdad, mostly in the Green Zone. On the same trip, he "spent a week
traveling through both Israel and the West Bank, meeting with
officials from both sides".

>2006.01.00 - Visited Jordan, Israel & Palestinian terr.
>2006.08.00 - Off. visit S.Afr,Kenya etc. Took family.
>2006.10.17 - Book published
>2007.01.16 - Announced 1st step for possible candidacy
>2007.02.10 - Announced nomination for Presidential race
>2007.05.01 - Oprah backs Obama on Larry King show
>2007.06.06 - Birth record prepared for him in Hawaii
>2007.12.10 - With Oprah on campaign trail
>2008.02.18 - Wife Michelle said she was proud to be Amer.
>2008.00.00 - Media storm about Trinity minister' comments
>2008.05.30 - He and Michelle resigned from Trinity church.
>2008.06.03 - Enough votes to be Presumptive Nominee
>2008.06.12 - Put birth record online to stop the smears
>
>If anyone finds any other events or corrections, slot them into this
>list.
>Later we can put them all in an Excel document with extra details
>and sources plus internet links.
>
>Ray

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