Skyrim Vr Pirated
Ahmend Studioz
Hello,
I'm very confused now. Some days ago I reported someone (I was not alone judging by comments) who asked for help in a mod comments section. This person said : "I don't know whats happening but whenever i install this mod or any mods it doesn't work. Is it because i have a cracked skyrim"
I have been an hardcore gamer for more than 25 years and as far as I am concerned "cracked" in a gamer's mouth always means "pirated". Just type "cracked" + a game's name in Google if you have a doubt.
I love Nexus, not only because of the awesome amount of mods it offers, but also for its strict policy about pirates, by always banning them. That's why I reported this guy.
Now the very confusing part : the guy is not banned, his comment is still there in the first page of comments of this very very popular mod, and I get this answer by a mod : "crack != piracy - Z". Another poster received this reply : "Please refrain from throwing out accusations (crack != piracy). - Z"
So "crack != piracy" ? :blink: Well, it's new for me... Even in the TOS we can read this (note the "cracked" word) :
We have a strict anti-piracy policy and we take a proactive and preemptive stance on anyone who gives us reason to believe is using a pirated version of any game or software. We only support official game versions and users should not provide help to others requesting help with unofficial game versions (e.g. cracked games).
It's not always the case, cracks can be used on legit games to remove intrusive DRM or maybe allow the user to make other changes to the exe, make it large address aware for example or apply a widescreen fix to older games. I don't see any reason to use one on Skyrim though so the guy was more than likely a thief and even if is isn't he shouldn't have even been discussing cracks in the first place. We don't know what goes on between staff and other users behind the scenes, he may have been asked for proof of ownership and provided it.
As far as I know personally its illegal in the US but legal under European law BUT because its such a grey area and a mess to figure out that trying to get a solid answer is like trying to get the truth from a politician so I know myself I would not bet any thing on that.
Any one who has been gaming since at least the 90's or early 2000's in all honesty has probably used "no-cd cracks"/methods to by pass DRM for varying and pretty legit reasons from stuff like Starforce to annoying early secure ROM that did not work on 64bit OS's even if the game physically would like some Splinter Cells.
@Elgar82 That refers to the "Non Steam" version of a Steam only game which would certainly be stolen, KOTOR is a good example of using a crack on a legit Steam game, the widescreen patcher will not work on the encrypted executable Steam provides, anyone wanting to play KOTOR in widescreen after buying it from Steam will have to use a crack, doing so doesn't make them a pirate.
We do not support cracks on NexusMods. However, we do tolerate them - it is not illegal, and it can serve extremely useful purposes, as jim_uk pointed out. We will not host cracks on NexusMods, because cracks are so often used by pirates. So, when someone mentions that they are using a crack, we first ask if it is a pirated copy. If it is indeed not a pirated copy, then we tell them that we do not support cracks here, and that if they want help with their issue, they should revert back to the original files (certain exceptions can be made, like KOTOR, where it is practically necessary to use some sort of crack, whereas Skyrim, for instance, is a good example of a game that throws a hissy fit when cracked).
Thank you for your answers, much appreciated. :smile:
Yes, it clears it up a little bit, and I understand your valid points. Nevertheless, with all due respect it seems to me that you forget one important thing : the context. We are talking here about Skyrim, not an old game like KOTOR, or DRMs like SecuROM with limited product activations.
NexusMods hosts mods for a lot of games, including very old games, where this tolerating-cracked-games policy may be understandable. But Skyrim is a modern game, with a non-intrusive DRM (you just have to authenticate your game one time and after that you can play with Steam offline forever), unlimited product activations on an unlimited number of computers. The developer is even still active - there is currently a patch in beta.
So in the specific case of Skyrim I can't see how it would be "not illegal" (it's against Bethesda's EULA) and how it could "serve extremely useful purposes".
I agree with you on Skyrim, there is no need whatsoever to crack it but some hate Steam enough to do it, importantly an admission of using a crack isn't enough in the way proof needed to ban someone as a pirate.
Its each persons choice whether they want to bypass DRM as some find it obtrusive and that is their call they just wont get any help here untill they "uncrack" their game as a lot of problems may actually come from the bypassing of the DRM itself.
I have been using cracks to protect my precious disks on my legally owned games for better than 20 years. I was looking for a crack for Oblivion when the people at Silverlock invented obse which had it's own crack built in. With Steam there has been no need for any cracks.
As has been said the legality on this is a grey area. It is not truly illegal until a case has been reviewed in Federal Court and adjudicated as so. Software piracy, though, has, is and will continue to be theft and I will continue to report pirates when I see them.
your game isnt unpacked. you need to unpack it using phoenix (at least thats what i use) and then just copy the crack in the dir and wallah. youre good to go. i tried helping speak with it but for some reason his didnt register when it finished unpacking so im not sure if its because of skyrim or just his computer but yeah after it unpacks it should ask t register or something like that (not like register to a site, just to finish the installation of a game.)
"your game isnt unpacked. you need to unpack it using phoenix (at least thats what i use) and then just copy the crack in the dir and wallah. youre good to go. i tried helping speak with it but for some reason his didnt register when it finished unpacking so im not sure if its because of skyrim or just his computer but yeah after it unpacks it should ask t register or something like that (not like register to a site, just to finish the installation of a game.)"
ADEN thanks.
So it seems that screenshots are not saved in one folder. If I go to map it is saved in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\userdata\760\remote\72850\screenshots. Normal screenshots is saved in the skyrim directory
First things 1st. I got a pirated retail copy of skyrim and the DLCs and got the latest patch via piratebay meaning i'm not a steam user. 3 Days ago patch the 1.9.32 together with latest version of SKSE and the SKYUI mod. some bugs started appearing like the ($) on the start of words in the menu, a space in the journal quest entries that when CLICKED it has a message saying LOOKUP FAILED!. being a non steam user i find it hard to fix the problem since the readme on troubleshooting it is useable by steam users only. can anyone help??
Ok, I realize this is a year too late, but I bought the original game and then found out about that *%^$%ing stupid Steam requirement. Like I really *want* to share my private gaming habits with the whole internet? What the * were they thinking?
Anyway: I downloaded the "no steam" crack for it, because I wanted to play a game that I payed for, and I didn't want to have Big Brother Steam watch me do it. Honestly, I then downloaded pirated DLCs and updates just because the only way to buy them legitimately was to go through the Steam nonsense again.
Gamers: piracy is bad, support the developers by buying the game. Developers: Steam (and Windows LIVE) requirements are BAD. Include them as options; some gamers like them. However, if you include them as DRM, gamers are going to pirate. Piracy is bad, but screwing over your customers is worse. ("Perhaps on the rare occasion pursuing the right course demands an act of piracy, piracy itself can be the right course?")
I have since found that SKSE (1.07...) works just fine with the non-steam Skyrim, as long as you have the most recent (non-steam version of) the official update (1.9....). (The "reloaded" update works beautifully for me, and no, I don't feel at all guilty about using a cracked update: as stated, I *bought* the game, but if Bethesda says piracy is necessary in order to play the game without steam, then who am I to argue?)
So, for anybody still searching: non-steam Skryim + reloaded updates + SKSE = happy, functional game experience. ;p (Add cracked DLCs for flavour, if you like. Maybe Bethesda will learn, but if they don't, I'll still buy their games--and then download cracked versions that actually work without third-party big brother malware like steam.)
Just to spite all the high horse f****** that somehow feel it necessary to shame pirates on the behalf of a game company that doesn't pay them a salary even though it doesn't make a lick of difference (you aren't stopping anyone) xD if you want the memory patch integrated into SKSE (shesons memory patch) to work make sure you run SKSE with the argument "-forcesteamloader" without quotes ofc. You can either add this to the end of the "target" inside of your SKSE_loader.exe shortcut or create a custom launch inside of your preferred mod manager, heres an example of what it might look like in the shortcut --> "C:\Games\Skyrim - Legendary Edition\skse_loader.exe" -forcesteamloader
Is it common that when you bring Esbern to Riverwood, there is a dragon waiting for you there? Or is it just a suspiciously placed random encounter? When I saw him, I was certain that it was part of the quest, and was surprised that nobody talks about it. - 85.222.89.208 06:09, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
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