the subs on the dvd are yellow. personally i think yellow suits kill bill beautifully. i would,nt use colored subs on most movies but in this case i think yellow is the way to go but we will see what others think. thanks for the input frink.
lol frink. also here are 2 more font choices. the one used in all the previous pics was ariel. the first one here is franklin gothic suggested by chainsawash. and the second is bookman old style. the font used in kill bill and throughout my dvd menus.
bookman old style kill bill font. EDIT i think i really like this font! i meant to raise it up higher again but what do you guys think? i am thinking bookman font yellow with black outline and black dropshadow. i will post an example of this idea.
I'd go with size 16, yellow, no outline, black drop shadow (drop shadow shouldn't be "soft," and it should go down and to the right), and probably a Franklin Gothic or Helvetica-style font. Also, a wee bit higher.
And I'd also preserve the color changes as present on the Region 1 DVDs (as in, in that one scene they're green, and then red, instead of yellow), but also keep the same size/font and black drop shadow.
I think Inglourious Basterds is a good reference for Kill Bill subtitles. They kept the theatrical (burned-in) subtitles on the DVD/Blu-Ray (I think), and they look pretty much exactly how I remember the Kill Bill subtitles looking in theaters:
helvetica is a pay font. and franklin i did not like any of them. as for the drop shadow yeah down to the right would be good. size 16 font takes up way to much screen real estate. i think unless i am voted down i really like the bookman font i know its not the original style but hey this is a fanedit. the only other font i will use is ariel. and the outline adds definition bigtime. in certain scenes with no outline the subs are very much not defined against the picture after playing with it for hours i decided the outline is a must. any red is out for sure as it just looks blury. so its yellow text with black effects. if anyone wants to post some mockups like from photoshop of what they like feel free i am still open but one way or another this edit is going to be finalized tonight. thanks for input as always ash you have a good eye for detail.
Just caught up with this again ibleedspeed. And just to muddy the waters, I gotta say, like Frink, I really liked the 'white' example you showed on the previous page...but also really like the look of the 'yellow' IB examples that Ash has shown above, too. What I'm not keen on is the 'Bookman' font example though. Personally, I prefer a simpler-looking font like 'Ariel' for this kind of thing.
ok well i am about to begin on the subs! i did a lot of work on the dvd main menu today. the dvd is fully authored and i made a test copy mounted and looked at everything in the menus and tested all the media. i had a problem with audio sync in 2 of the special features. but figured it out i believe. i had set the framerate for those to videos in dvd architect to 23.976 fps and they are 29.970 videos. so fixed that and everything is looking golden. as for the subs. since only a few had an opinion it looks like a draw straws deal. so for me i think i will go with yellow ariel black outline black dropshadow its simple and means less work since they are already ariel. thanks for all the input guys. it wont be long now.
I did, but I was just assuming how it would look compared to the 14 that he'd used before. I tend to resize manually in FCP or Avid when I do subtitles instead of fiddling around with font point sizes, so I don't really know what sizes are too small/too big.
MARK SCHAPIRO, Reporter: [voice-over] Time is a fiction, they say. In this remote corner of Brazil's Atlantic Coast, an ancient forest seemingly unspoiled by modern life, beyond the reach of men, machines and markets. But look closer and you'll see that something very different is happening here.
MARK SCHAPIRO: [voice-over] Ricardo da Britez is the chief forest scientist in this reserve. He oversees the carbon counting here. His measurements are being followed closely by people around the world trying to figure out how to buy and sell this carbon on the international market.
MARK SCHAPIRO: Conservation groups identified this area, known as Guaraquecaba, as one of the most threatened eco-hotspots in the world. Even Al Gore visited, triggering international attention.
MARK SCHAPIRO: The Nature Conservancy tried for years to raise funds, but the big money didn't start pouring into the region until fears began to rise about climate change, and a new reason to save the trees, carbon, brought in three large American companies.
RICARDO DA BRITEZ: [subtitles] The companies were interested in carbon credits. Each company supported a different project. The first one was supported by American Electric Power.
MARK SCHAPIRO: Da Britez explained how in 2000, American Electric Power, the utility giant, bought into an area the size of Manhattan. Then came the car company General Motors, and finally, Chevron oil. The three companies invested a total of $18 million to preserve this forest.
CLOVIS BORGES, Executive Director, SPVS: We will purchase part of the land of the region and preserve these areas. And the carbon provided, or the carbon credits that could be provided ? it's not a guarantee ? will be the results that this company can have.
MARK SCHAPIRO: [voice-over] But what is a carbon credit? And why are so many people so interested in buying and selling something that didn't even exist five years ago? It's a question I've been investigating. Before I left for Brazil, I met with veteran Wall Street executive Tom Lewis.
TOM LEWIS, CEO, NYMEX Green Exchange: People often ask the question, ``What is the difference between carbon and other commodities?'' And in many cases, it's exactly the same as another commodity. It trades precisely in the same way. Globally, it's considered about a $300 billion market today. But the expectation is that within a decade, that market could be between $2 trillion and $3 trillion.
MARK SCHAPIRO: Mike Morris is CEO of American Electric Power, the largest operator of coal-fired power plants in the country. He told us that investing in cleaner technology is expensive and takes time, and the only way he would be able to meet emission targets would be to purchase carbon credits.
MICHAEL MORRIS: We'll purchase credits. We'll be in the credit market, along with many, many other people. And so we need the kinds of things that will create credits in the most cost-effective way.
Most of us, if asked, would say it sounds like a great plan, save a tree and soak up the carbon. But most of us don't live here. And this man does. He's a farmer who lives between the GM and American Electric Power reserves.
MARK SCHAPIRO: With all these new assets on the line, forest enforcement in Guaraquecaba has been stepped up. This branch of the state military, called the Green Police or Forca Verde, was established decades ago to protect against environmental crimes. Now, due to the avid American interest in the carbon, their mission has taken on a new focus, protecting the forest from the people who live there.
ANTONIO ALVES: [subtitles] They circled around here. They took out their gun and kicked in the door. I was there and came out, and the guy had a gun pointed at my chest.
MARK SCHAPIRO: Antonio Alves's land borders the GM reserve and he has had multiple run-ins with the Green Police. On one occasion he told us that his roof was leaking and he couldn't afford the materials to fix it. So he went out to find wood in the forest where he lives.
ANTONIO ALVES: [subtitles] And then two police officers showed up. One puts a gun right here. I looked at him and turned off my chainsaw. They handcuffed me right there. There is a law that you can't chop down a tree. It's not legal. But if you're not clear-cutting a forest, just cutting three or four trees to build a house, I don't think it's a crime. They think it is.
MARK SCHAPIRO: Alves spent 11 days in jail for his crime and has since moved away because of continued harassment by the Green Police. It's a complaint that's increased since the carbon reserves were established.
The Nature Conservancy declined to speak with us on camera. In public statements, they point to the jobs they've created in the reserve and their reforestation of degraded lands. They make no mention of those being displaced from the forest.
CLOVIS BORGES, Executive Director, SPVS: During our 17 years in Guaraquecaba, we were accused from everything. I think this is part of the process. What we are doing is try to demonstrate that we really were able to develop one project that can link the carbon with conservation. Maybe we are not right, but we are trying to deal with something very tough, and we don't have enough time because destruction of nature is happening everywhere very quickly.
MARK SCHAPIRO: The stakes here in Brazil are clear everywhere you go. Deforestation has made Brazil into the world's third largest greenhouse gas emitter. For years, they looked the other way. But now Brazil is facing the problem head on. We went to the front line of deforestation with a team of federal agents.
MARK SCHAPIRO: [voice-over] There they were, illegal loggers? truck after truck loaded with logs, all day and into the night. And this was just one road in one corner of the Amazon, but it was a scene likely playing itself out across the country.
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