FW: [Aberdeen] Parking Enforcement
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Aberdeen-Brighton Residents Association
Aug 26, 2009, 2:40:22 PM8/26/09
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Subject: [Aberdeen] Parking Enforcement
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This morning at 6 am I noticed a car parked in a "no standing" zone at the very bottom of Wiltshire Road where it hits Portina. This is a public safety issue; the car would have prevented fire trucks from making the turn. I called parking enforcement, and the operator informed me that there would be nobody in the area to ticket the car until 8:00. I told her that this was an unsafe situation, and I asked her what could be done immediately - she told me to call District 14. I did so, and spoke with a police officer who took the information.
At 7:15 the car was still there, unticketed.
This hits close to home for me. I used to live on Colwell Avenue; a fire started in the attic, and fire engines were unable to get around the tight corners because of the way people park. What could have been a minor fire turned into a major disaster. The fire house was literally a couple of hundred yards away from the house, but the trucks could not get there quickly. They ended up having to cut through the condo parking lot at the top of Colwell (the condos are on Chestnut Hill Ave.) in order to access Colwell Ave.
Generally, I find parking enforcement's answer, "nobody will be around until 8" to be unacceptable when safety issues are involved. Also, does this mean that anyone can park anywhere they'd like before 8?
Sholom Fine
mrjbamzski
Aug 27, 2009, 10:39:51 AM8/27/09
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Thats like calling when there is a snow emergency and they do not Ticket or Tow
A N Y cars by Harvard - Yet they can put up a Paper Sign at any time then
Ticket and Tow in the same moment at the bequest of Harvard.
T O T A L L Y - N O T - A C C E P T A B L E ,
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tamara bonn
Aug 27, 2009, 10:47:17 AM8/27/09
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Actually, I've seen them tow all the cars off of Western Ave and N. Harvard along the B-School property during snow emergencies. I can only think of a few exceptions, and it seems to be if someone parks after they've done the big tow sweep, but then the cars that are there get ticket after ticket.--
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colleen salmon
Aug 27, 2009, 11:29:06 AM8/27/09
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Was the car actually blocking the street? Sounds like you are making a bigger deal out of this than it is. I was reading about the robberies in the area...I would prefer the police deal with that type of crime than waste time on parking issues (unless the car was actually blocking the street).
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Eva Webster
Aug 27, 2009, 1:22:50 PM8/27/09
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Colleen — if a car is parked too close to the corner, though not blocking traffic for regular cars, but nevertheless making it impossible for a fire engine truck to make a turn, that is NOT a minor issue. A loss of home and human lives may result from that — it’s just as bad as getting robbed (if not worse).
Most houses in A-B are on narrow streets (often one-way) streets, where fire trucks have trouble operating. Parking enforcement for safety reasons is not a waste of time. You certainly would not think so if you or your loved-ones were trapped in a fire or smoke-filled home, when every second matters.
Each year, we hear about some people perishing in house fires (it even happened in Brookline a couple of years ago). It’s not a trivial thing. Regular citizens should be paying attention when they see cars parked close to corners, and demand that those cars are ticketed and removed.
Most houses in A-B are on narrow streets (often one-way) streets, where fire trucks have trouble operating. Parking enforcement for safety reasons is not a waste of time. You certainly would not think so if you or your loved-ones were trapped in a fire or smoke-filled home, when every second matters.
Each year, we hear about some people perishing in house fires (it even happened in Brookline a couple of years ago). It’s not a trivial thing. Regular citizens should be paying attention when they see cars parked close to corners, and demand that those cars are ticketed and removed.
On 8/27/09 11:29 AM, "colleen salmon" <colleen...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Was the car actually blocking the street? Sounds like you are making a bigger deal out of this than it is. I was reading about the robberies in the area...I would prefer the police deal with that type of crime than waste time on parking issues (unless the car was actually blocking the street).
--- On Thu, 8/27/09, tamara bonn <tamara...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: tamara bonn <tamara...@gmail.com>
Subject: [AB2006] Re: FW: [Aberdeen] Parking Enforcement
To: allstonbr...@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 10:47 AM
Actually, I've seen them tow all the cars off of Western Ave and N. Harvard along the B-School property during snow emergencies. I can only think of a few exceptions, and it seems to be if someone parks after they've done the big tow sweep, but then the cars that are there get ticket after ticket.
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:39 AM, mrjbamzski <mrjba...@yahoo.com <http://us.mc514.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mrjba...@yahoo.com> > wrote:
Thats like calling when there is a snow emergency and they do not Ticket or Tow
A N Y cars by Harvard - Yet they can put up a Paper Sign at any time then
Ticket and Tow in the same moment at the bequest of Harvard.
T O T A L L Y - N O T - A C C E P T A B L E ,
--- On Wed, 8/26/09, Aberdeen-Brighton Residents Association <aberdeen....@comcast.net <http://us.mc514.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=aberdeen....@comcast.net> > wrote:
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Subject: [AB2006] FW: [Aberdeen] Parking Enforcement
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Subject: [Aberdeen] Parking Enforcement
Annie Gilsdorf
Aug 28, 2009, 9:23:31 AM8/28/09
to AllstonBrighton2006
All,
To play devil's advocate (and I'm making some assumptions about what
the rest of the parking on the street looked like) but this speaks to
me not only about the safety issue, but the severe parking shortage in
the area. Too many cars, parked inefficiently, on very small streets.
Now it's not only a pain when you're arriving home late at night and
there is nowhere to park, but it is also a safety issue.
It would be ideal, of course, if there were less cars, but with public
transportation as it is I can imagine that many people do need them
here, even if not every day. I wonder if some solution besides off-
street parking could be arranged -- perhaps, for people who don't use
their cars regularly, a lot perhaps a little off the beaten path where
many cars could be stored and accessed for occasional use, so that
these safety issues don't have to arise.
A. Gilsdorf
On Aug 27, 6:22 pm, Eva Webster <evawebs...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Colleen ‹ if a car is parked too close to the corner, though not blocking
> traffic for regular cars, but nevertheless making it impossible for a fire
> engine truck to make a turn, that is NOT a minor issue. A loss of home and
> human lives may result from that ‹ it¹s just as bad as getting robbed (if
> not worse).
>
> Most houses in A-B are on narrow streets (often one-way) streets, where fire
> trucks have trouble operating. Parking enforcement for safety reasons is
> not a waste of time. You certainly would not think so if you or your
> loved-ones were trapped in a fire or smoke-filled home, when every second
> matters.
>
> Each year, we hear about some people perishing in house fires (it even
> happened in Brookline a couple of years ago). It¹s not a trivial thing.
> Regular citizens should be paying attention when they see cars parked close
> to corners, and demand that those cars are ticketed and removed.
>
> >>> <http://us.mc514.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=aberdeen.reside...@comcast.net
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To play devil's advocate (and I'm making some assumptions about what
the rest of the parking on the street looked like) but this speaks to
me not only about the safety issue, but the severe parking shortage in
the area. Too many cars, parked inefficiently, on very small streets.
Now it's not only a pain when you're arriving home late at night and
there is nowhere to park, but it is also a safety issue.
It would be ideal, of course, if there were less cars, but with public
transportation as it is I can imagine that many people do need them
here, even if not every day. I wonder if some solution besides off-
street parking could be arranged -- perhaps, for people who don't use
their cars regularly, a lot perhaps a little off the beaten path where
many cars could be stored and accessed for occasional use, so that
these safety issues don't have to arise.
A. Gilsdorf
On Aug 27, 6:22 pm, Eva Webster <evawebs...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Colleen ‹ if a car is parked too close to the corner, though not blocking
> traffic for regular cars, but nevertheless making it impossible for a fire
> engine truck to make a turn, that is NOT a minor issue. A loss of home and
> human lives may result from that ‹ it¹s just as bad as getting robbed (if
> not worse).
>
> Most houses in A-B are on narrow streets (often one-way) streets, where fire
> trucks have trouble operating. Parking enforcement for safety reasons is
> not a waste of time. You certainly would not think so if you or your
> loved-ones were trapped in a fire or smoke-filled home, when every second
> matters.
>
> Each year, we hear about some people perishing in house fires (it even
> happened in Brookline a couple of years ago). It¹s not a trivial thing.
> Regular citizens should be paying attention when they see cars parked close
> to corners, and demand that those cars are ticketed and removed.
>
> On 8/27/09 11:29 AM, "colleen salmon" <colleen_sal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Was the car actually blocking the street? Sounds like you are making a bigger
> > deal out of this than it is. I was reading about the robberies in the
> > area...I would prefer the police deal with that type of crime than waste time
> > on parking issues (unless the car was actually blocking the street).
>
> > --- On Thu, 8/27/09, tamara bonn <tamarasyl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Was the car actually blocking the street? Sounds like you are making a bigger
> > deal out of this than it is. I was reading about the robberies in the
> > area...I would prefer the police deal with that type of crime than waste time
> > on parking issues (unless the car was actually blocking the street).
>
>
> >> From: tamara bonn <tamarasyl...@gmail.com>
> >> Subject: [AB2006] Re: FW: [Aberdeen] Parking Enforcement
> >> To: allstonbr...@googlegroups.com
> >> Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 10:47 AM
>
> >> Actually, I've seen them tow all the cars off of Western Ave and N. Harvard
> >> along the B-School property during snow emergencies. I can only think of a
> >> few exceptions, and it seems to be if someone parks after they've done the
> >> big tow sweep, but then the cars that are there get ticket after ticket.
>
> >> From: tamara bonn <tamarasyl...@gmail.com>
> >> Subject: [AB2006] Re: FW: [Aberdeen] Parking Enforcement
> >> To: allstonbr...@googlegroups.com
> >> Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 10:47 AM
>
> >> Actually, I've seen them tow all the cars off of Western Ave and N. Harvard
> >> along the B-School property during snow emergencies. I can only think of a
> >> few exceptions, and it seems to be if someone parks after they've done the
> >> big tow sweep, but then the cars that are there get ticket after ticket.
>
> >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:39 AM, mrjbamzski <mrjbamz...@yahoo.com
> >> <http://us.mc514.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mrjbamz...@yahoo.com> > wrote:
> >>> Thats like calling when there is a snow emergency and they do not Ticket or
> >>> Tow
> >>> A N Y cars by Harvard - Yet they can put up a Paper Sign at any time
> >>> then
> >>> Ticket and Tow in the same moment at the bequest of Harvard.
> >>> T O T A L L Y - N O T - A C C E P T A B L E ,
>
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> >> <http://us.mc514.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mrjbamz...@yahoo.com> > wrote:
> >>> Thats like calling when there is a snow emergency and they do not Ticket or
> >>> Tow
> >>> A N Y cars by Harvard - Yet they can put up a Paper Sign at any time
> >>> then
> >>> Ticket and Tow in the same moment at the bequest of Harvard.
> >>> T O T A L L Y - N O T - A C C E P T A B L E ,
>
> >>> --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Aberdeen-Brighton Residents Association
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> >>> > > wrote:
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mrjbamzski
Aug 28, 2009, 1:35:33 PM8/28/09
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| Never at Harvard , EVER --- On Thu, 8/27/09, colleen salmon <colleen...@yahoo.com> wrote: |
B Irish
Aug 29, 2009, 9:42:18 AM8/29/09
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When I used to live on Beacon Hill and on another street in Allston the fire department would routinlely drive the trucks around the narrow streets just to make sure they could get through. I'm sure it was during the slow times and maybe there's some policy where they do that. There were several times when the trucks couldn't get around the corner due to cars parking too close to the corners or they were sticking out too far so there wasn't enough room. The truck would blow the horn to see if someone came out to move it which could move it. If not they would be towed.
If it's on your street and it's obvious, you should call the police station and parking enforcement. Some people don't care where they leave their cars. I dont think people should be out on a neighborhood watch calling in all cars parked illegally. I think that would overburden the enforcement and lead to a total non-response.
Just my thought.
Brian
colleen salmon
Aug 31, 2009, 9:33:49 AM8/31/09
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People perishing in fires is certainly not trivial.
My point is that it does not sound like the street was blocked. --- On Thu, 8/27/09, Eva Webster <evawe...@comcast.net> wrote: |
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