Best Linux Distributions of the Decade (2000-2009)
Sanjeev B.S.
Best Linux Distributions of the Decade (2000-2009)
http://www.junauza.com/2010/02/best-linux-distributions-of-decade-2000.html
Not really surprised with the first choice of people, at least so far. :)
1. Mandriva 30% (756 votes)
2. Ubuntu 28% (695 votes)
3. Debian 9% (225 votes)
Abhishek Mishra
anyone "Have you heard this work 'ubuntu'?", you would get a
satisfying answer, ask them "mandriva?", there wont be any answer at
all :)
Personally, till now I myself haven't encountered a Mandriva fanboy or
even a user.
I wonder which geographical location did the people vote from.
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Sanjeev B.S.
> I cant believe mandriva got more votes than ubuntu, in my college ask
> anyone "Have you heard this work 'ubuntu'?", you would get a
> satisfying answer, ask them "mandriva?", there wont be any answer at
> all :)
>
> Personally, till now I myself haven't encountered a Mandriva fanboy or
> even a user.
>
> I wonder which geographical location did the people vote from.
It came through linuxtoday.com (
http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-02-09-026-35-OS-CY-SW
) so the voting must have been across the globe.
I have tried installing Ubutu last sem on many systems for the 1st
years at Jhalwa campus and they'd agree that it couldn't be installed.
All I know is that finally it was Mdv One that ran on those systems.
Remembers, those were pretty old systems and there should have been no
issues with drivers! Not to mention, I have even some servers running
on Mdv and the fact remains that the last year's Effervescence's
technical events ran on Mdv desktop server.
It is possible, for whatever reasons, that some version of Mdv may not
run properly on some system, but replacing that with another Mdv is
what I would have done. And I also know that I am more demanding from
the OS than almost any of you, including wider range of tasks and
updates... IMHO Ubuntu, SuSE and even RHEL are not as user friendly in
these tasks. Actually, Arch linux is much more user friendly but its
paranoid settings sometimes will annoy a general expert user and scare
away any non-expert user!
I had to servers updated to latest Mdv 2010 from earlier versions just
with urpmi. What more I can ask for? :)
Sanjeev B.S.
servers' were updated with urpmi.
BTW, I recently had a couple of students coming to me for the online
judge (modified version). Now, it requires php, ldap (optionally),
perl and shell. I was surprised to see that it did not work on Ubuntu
and Mint. I did not spend too much time to find out why it failed as
I've been a happy user with it on Mdv and RHEL; and since I wrote the
code all by myself I can assure you that it does not depend on any
special Mdv/Fed/CentOS features. Weird, to say the least!
Ishan Chattopadhyaya
I have never used Mandriva, so cannot comment. Ubuntu is the most user friendly OS I've come across. Mint takes it one step further. The kernel more or less being the same across all distributions, driver support, I feel, is mostly same across all distros. Having said this, I could find a very active Ubuntu community.. they were pushing out daily patches and builds last month for the latest intel i3/i5/i7 processors.
Happy Holi everyone,
Regards,
Ishan
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Sanjeev B.S.
> online judge (only after I spent a day setting it up, mainly building the
> modtcl from the source).
I did not include Fedora in my list as it was anyway not in the same
league as Mdv and Ubuntu, statistically speaking, according to votes.
Not that I haven't used it. I actually tried to use Fedora on my
system replacing theh Mdv. During installation it had shown that my
home and other partitions were of ReiserFS but would not allow me to
use those partitions! (Ok, booting with 'linux reiserfs' is a way out
but excuse me! Is having to google even for installation is user
friendliness? I can undelete files in reiser3 far more easily than
ext3.)
> I have never used Mandriva, so cannot comment. Ubuntu is the most user
> friendly OS I've come across. Mint takes it one step further. The kernel
> more or less being the same across all distributions, driver support, I
> feel, is mostly same across all distros. Having said this, I could find a
> very active Ubuntu community.. they were pushing out daily patches and
> builds last month for the latest intel i3/i5/i7 processors.
Mandriva Control Center is still a benchmark for any linux distro and
I find it more user friendly than even the Windows Control Panel. At
the same time I also can use command line for jobs. And Mdv community
and repos are as solid.
I would choose Fedora/CentOS/RHEL on the server side and only where
fresh install makes sense.
Anik Varshney
The difference in servers and all comes as a result of the fact that Ubuntu comes in a CD while Mdv comes in a DVD, ( though I use my own DVD image of Ubuntu which installs all packages needed by me.) Creation of a bootable flash drive for install is a cakewalk in Ubuntu.(oops dont know about others).
Another fact lies in the storage of the downloaded package. I use download accelerators (aria2) for downloading dependencies (after fetching urls form apt-get) and then use the same downloaded files for all the machines that run ubuntu.
And the problems I have encountered with Mandriva:
1. I recommended using linux to my friend, only to find that I didnt have Ubuntu, as my next preference, I installed Mndriva on his system. And to my surprise, there was no sound ( first time I saw mandriva doing that). Damn, I couldnt feel more dismay suggesting to use linux to anyone.
2. I had Mdv 2009 in my lappy, which became very slow(May be a problem with my lappy itself). As I have installed a lot of softwares in it, I didnt want to reinstall Mdv, Instead I went for upgrade to Mdv 2010. Speed of the lappy was improved, but many of the softwares ( that didnt come out with a notification of any compatibility problem) stopped to work!.
3. Finally, I had installed 2 linux distributions ( Sabayon and debian, No body likes to talk about them :-o ), But I wanted to use mandriva, but to my amaze swap area used by both the other distributions was called "an invalid partition", So I had to install a separate swap area for Mdv. After installing, one of the drives in my hard disk was shown to be of over a million of GBs in total space ( I want to download youtube onto it, If it were true). I could not get rid of that problem by using tools like the default partition manager, Gparted etc, even after formatting my whole system. Who came to my rescue? A non pirated copy of Win XP.
Apologies, if I said something wrong, or in a wrong manner.
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Sanjeev B.S.
> comes in a CD while Mdv comes in a DVD, ( though I use my own DVD image of
> Ubuntu which installs all packages needed by me.) Creation of a bootable
> flash drive for install is a cakewalk in Ubuntu.(oops dont know about
> others).
Ok, there is some catch. For a dew years, IIRC, Mandriva did spin out
bad versions as it went through a very difficult phase, including
financial bankruptcy. Later it began to improve again. Specifically,
Mdv 2010 seems to me to be the best ever. That is if I exclude Redhat
7.3. :)
Of the several systems on which Mdv2K9 failed to install, even Ubuntu
and OpenSolaris failed. Somehow Mint survived but it was Mdv 2010 RC1
that had no issues at all. Remember, the systems were all old and
their drivers must have been there!
Also, equivalent of Ubuntu Live is Mandriva One (1CD), not Mandriva
Free (DVD) or PowerPack.
> Another fact lies in the storage of the downloaded package. I use download
> accelerators (aria2) for downloading dependencies (after fetching urls form
> apt-get) and then use the same downloaded files for all the machines that
> run ubuntu.
aria2 is supported by Mdv's urpmi too!
> And the problems I have encountered with Mandriva:
> 1. I recommended using linux to my friend, only to find that I didnt have
> Ubuntu, as my next preference, I installed Mndriva on his system. And to my
> surprise, there was no sound ( first time I saw mandriva doing that). Damn,
> I couldnt feel more dismay suggesting to use linux to anyone.
> 2. I had Mdv 2009 in my lappy, which became very slow(May be a problem with
> my lappy itself). As I have installed a lot of softwares in it, I didnt want
> to reinstall Mdv, Instead I went for upgrade to Mdv 2010. Speed of the lappy
> was improved, but many of the softwares ( that didnt come out with a
> notification of any compatibility problem) stopped to work!.
> 3. Finally, I had installed 2 linux distributions ( Sabayon and debian, No
> body likes to talk about them :-o ), But I wanted to use mandriva, but to my
> amaze swap area used by both the other distributions was called "an invalid
> partition", So I had to install a separate swap area for Mdv. After
> installing, one of the drives in my hard disk was shown to be of over a
> million of GBs in total space ( I want to download youtube onto it, If it
> were true). I could not get rid of that problem by using tools like the
> default partition manager, Gparted etc, even after formatting my whole
> system. Who came to my rescue? A non pirated copy of Win XP.
The system I use in my office has no sound in Windows! Yeah, that is
with all the company drivers, all updates, SP1, SP2 and SP3 and latest
BIOS. So I need my Mdv to get sound! I took the issue with support
teams and after multiple MS installs it was given up.
My suspicion about these inconsistent problems mentioned here and
earlier is with hardware. I believe they might actually be not what
they are supposed to be, whatever that might mean. That is the only
explanation that I can offer considering all the above experiences and
theories about same kernel, etc, is that these issues do not show up
in google as much otherwise they should have been.