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J.Jay
Jan 1, 2010, 8:51:41 PM1/1/10
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okay, well when I was younger I used to live in a garage apartment
behind my mothers house, I was around the age of 16 or so. I always
woke up to light outside of my window. Thats the only thing I can
remember from back then. Once my Mother told me that she too saw
light outside in the yard. Her window had faced my apartment. She said
that it lit up the room like daylight and it was for a period of like
two minutes then went away. She said she was to afraid to look out of
the window. My mother is very spiritual and she told me it was
ghosts. In the same house later in my life I stayed over with my
mother and went to bed in my sisters room. The same light came
followed by a sharp ringing in my left ear. It sounded like a high
mechanical ring, which included a pain like I never felt. It didnt
last long but it frightened me so much I ran to my Mothers room and
made her stay with me all night. She slept on a bean bag. Things got
quiet after a while until earlier last year when they told me I needed
back replacement surgery at the age of 27. When i learned of my
condition I started having the most lucid dreams. My boyfriend says
its because i was in fear of events to come but they were not the
same. I would leave my body and walk around my house but I felt
heavier, like i was dragging, I could only get so far before I was
slammed back into the bed, i suppose where my body was left. I would
repeat the process over and over again until when I finally decided to
awaken I was just exhausted. I didnt sleep very well at all. Then in
August of this year 9 months after my back surgery they find an
unexplained mass in my chest that grew off of a thyroid infection.
They said they have never seen a mass grow from that and into the
chest. It was pressing against my heart and major arteries and
growing rapidly. I asked to see it but they never did show me. We had
surgery immediatly and the cut open my throat to get it out. It was
this time that I stayed in the hospital I had my first visit that I
can clearly remember the whole episode. I was helpless and sedated.
Now Im learning of the true meaning of time and how we cant keep using
it as a measuring device. that it is not linear. Im learning of
interdimensions of this planet and how to unlock them. Im learning
that we dont really exsist at all but coexist as energy and that we
are just a tiny part of what is out there. I have a lot to get off my
plate....And I thank you for the opprotunity you all have givin me to
share and vent and listen and learn. I will let this be it for now, I
feel I could type all night....LOL.
behind my mothers house, I was around the age of 16 or so. I always
woke up to light outside of my window. Thats the only thing I can
remember from back then. Once my Mother told me that she too saw
light outside in the yard. Her window had faced my apartment. She said
that it lit up the room like daylight and it was for a period of like
two minutes then went away. She said she was to afraid to look out of
the window. My mother is very spiritual and she told me it was
ghosts. In the same house later in my life I stayed over with my
mother and went to bed in my sisters room. The same light came
followed by a sharp ringing in my left ear. It sounded like a high
mechanical ring, which included a pain like I never felt. It didnt
last long but it frightened me so much I ran to my Mothers room and
made her stay with me all night. She slept on a bean bag. Things got
quiet after a while until earlier last year when they told me I needed
back replacement surgery at the age of 27. When i learned of my
condition I started having the most lucid dreams. My boyfriend says
its because i was in fear of events to come but they were not the
same. I would leave my body and walk around my house but I felt
heavier, like i was dragging, I could only get so far before I was
slammed back into the bed, i suppose where my body was left. I would
repeat the process over and over again until when I finally decided to
awaken I was just exhausted. I didnt sleep very well at all. Then in
August of this year 9 months after my back surgery they find an
unexplained mass in my chest that grew off of a thyroid infection.
They said they have never seen a mass grow from that and into the
chest. It was pressing against my heart and major arteries and
growing rapidly. I asked to see it but they never did show me. We had
surgery immediatly and the cut open my throat to get it out. It was
this time that I stayed in the hospital I had my first visit that I
can clearly remember the whole episode. I was helpless and sedated.
Now Im learning of the true meaning of time and how we cant keep using
it as a measuring device. that it is not linear. Im learning of
interdimensions of this planet and how to unlock them. Im learning
that we dont really exsist at all but coexist as energy and that we
are just a tiny part of what is out there. I have a lot to get off my
plate....And I thank you for the opprotunity you all have givin me to
share and vent and listen and learn. I will let this be it for now, I
feel I could type all night....LOL.
john stratton
Jan 3, 2010, 3:43:12 PM1/3/10
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That's interesting J , I don't remember much of my childhood but I do remember living in two homes my mom said had ghost in them I remember her being scared badly hearing and seeing things up through several years of age but I can't get her to admit to it and if she hears me or my brother in law say the words Alien or ufo she goes off the wall on evil and satin but I can not get her to admit to the ghost stuff in the least .
As for a your growth , I also developed one in my neck area in my 30s they had to cut my neck open to get it out also it was as big as a large egg pressing on the large vessel that returns blood from the brain it just grew all the sudden for me also on a nerve . I also have severe spinal disease but am not a candidate for surgery . Still get the ringing in the ears at times . So you are not alone not only you and me or others here but it is so common with people that have these experiences every where , there is much more yes I'm sure others will chime in soon .
John
As for a your growth , I also developed one in my neck area in my 30s they had to cut my neck open to get it out also it was as big as a large egg pressing on the large vessel that returns blood from the brain it just grew all the sudden for me also on a nerve . I also have severe spinal disease but am not a candidate for surgery . Still get the ringing in the ears at times . So you are not alone not only you and me or others here but it is so common with people that have these experiences every where , there is much more yes I'm sure others will chime in soon .
John
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Jennifer Rangel
Jan 3, 2010, 6:50:35 PM1/3/10
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John Thank you so much for your support. So many things have been happening to me latley I feel like a crazy person to tell anyone. Im still going through stuff are you?
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J.Jay
Jan 3, 2010, 7:33:33 PM1/3/10
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Okay So, Ill start with the freshest and go back. New Years Night.
Im afraid to go to bed. I had sleep paralysis the night before and I
just joined this group. I just read about sitting through it and
paying attention so I figure ill try it. 2 am im up of course, i walk
duncan my dog, then at 4 nathan comes home from work. He decided to
take duncan out and i decided i didnt need my nightlight anymore since
he was home. I turned it off and stared at the clock in front of me.
I remember while looking that i didnt even feel like i was in my body
more like i was just looking out from my eye sockets. Nate comes in
and changes asks me how i was...usuall chit chat but as soon as he
hits the bed. He is out. No gaps. I was like great im alone again.
So im hugging against him still looking at the clock its 4:16 or so.
And I feel this presence in the room...Im so tired I was certain it
was just me. Then I feel the paralysis hit me again. I decided to sit
through it..still turned the same way I said in my mind"I know you
here, im tired, just come out already" And they did. It wasnt a dream
it was real. I dont want to say what happened in live forum because
im still new here and i havent seen anypost like to what ive been
experiencing. Im scared to come out in the open. As far as your
spirits go John. When i was younger many of my houses have had spirits
and ghosts. They come because they know you are open and sensative to
them. I have also had experiences of dark masses and other things,
This what i am going through feels very different. I want to believe
they come from the same plain of existence, I wish what were
happeneing to me was just ghosts and stuff. My family can deal with
that for me, hell i can deal with that.
Im afraid to go to bed. I had sleep paralysis the night before and I
just joined this group. I just read about sitting through it and
paying attention so I figure ill try it. 2 am im up of course, i walk
duncan my dog, then at 4 nathan comes home from work. He decided to
take duncan out and i decided i didnt need my nightlight anymore since
he was home. I turned it off and stared at the clock in front of me.
I remember while looking that i didnt even feel like i was in my body
more like i was just looking out from my eye sockets. Nate comes in
and changes asks me how i was...usuall chit chat but as soon as he
hits the bed. He is out. No gaps. I was like great im alone again.
So im hugging against him still looking at the clock its 4:16 or so.
And I feel this presence in the room...Im so tired I was certain it
was just me. Then I feel the paralysis hit me again. I decided to sit
through it..still turned the same way I said in my mind"I know you
here, im tired, just come out already" And they did. It wasnt a dream
it was real. I dont want to say what happened in live forum because
im still new here and i havent seen anypost like to what ive been
experiencing. Im scared to come out in the open. As far as your
spirits go John. When i was younger many of my houses have had spirits
and ghosts. They come because they know you are open and sensative to
them. I have also had experiences of dark masses and other things,
This what i am going through feels very different. I want to believe
they come from the same plain of existence, I wish what were
happeneing to me was just ghosts and stuff. My family can deal with
that for me, hell i can deal with that.
On Jan 3, 2:43 pm, john stratton <kentuckycowb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> That's interesting J , I don't remember much of my childhood but I do remember living in two homes my mom said had ghost in them I remember her being scared badly hearing and seeing things up through several years of age but I can't get her to admit to it and if she hears me or my brother in law say the words Alien or ufo she goes off the wall on evil and satin but I can not get her to admit to the ghost stuff in the least .
>
> As for a your growth , I also developed one in my neck area in my 30s they had to cut my neck open to get it out also it was as big as a large egg pressing on the large vessel that returns blood from the brain it just grew all the sudden for me also on a nerve . I also have severe spinal disease but am not a candidate for surgery . Still get the ringing in the ears at times . So you are not alone not only you and me or others here but it is so common with people that have these experiences every where , there is much more yes I'm sure others will chime in soon .
> John
>
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bonniejeanmitchell
Jan 3, 2010, 8:18:50 PM1/3/10
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Hi J. Jay,
I know how you feel. I've been where you are now. You can certainly
feel free to post anything about the aliens, but wait until you are
comfortable. The majority of us here have seen and experienced some
bizarre and sometimes jarring things. I have also, many times, been
lying in my bed half-awake and anxious knowing the star people or
aliens are near. It's so hard to sleep...but you want to because you
desperately need a rest. I know how you feel.
Did things go better when you decided to go calmly through the
paralysis?
I know how you feel. I've been where you are now. You can certainly
feel free to post anything about the aliens, but wait until you are
comfortable. The majority of us here have seen and experienced some
bizarre and sometimes jarring things. I have also, many times, been
lying in my bed half-awake and anxious knowing the star people or
aliens are near. It's so hard to sleep...but you want to because you
desperately need a rest. I know how you feel.
Did things go better when you decided to go calmly through the
paralysis?
Many Blessings, Bonnie :-)
john stratton
Jan 3, 2010, 9:53:02 PM1/3/10
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I am with illness and Paranormal but since I asked them for time to work things out I've not even seen any ufos around our home so that part is pretty slow for me now . I do feel watched about 2 or 3 AM every now and again but associate it more to the Paranormal than the ufology I could be wrong though . They are very smart just because they give you room don't mean they stop maybe they just stop letting you recall it . They never let me really see them until they gave me enough clues that I could not help but know they where here , strange how they clue you in slowly . I'm sure they have a reason for all they do .
John
John
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Jennifer Rangel
Jan 4, 2010, 1:11:27 AM1/4/10
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That night, When i asked them to just come out....They did. I kept looking at the clock in the bedroom and just to the right of it..out of the thin air..a grey manifested itself right infront of my eyes. I was under paraysis and i couldnt move all I could do was watch. It sort of looked like the greys we all see in the movies but they were different in person. Like you said their eyes arent as big...Still big but we make em out cartoonish. There was one at first...he came out and walked about my room just picking things up and looking around. He loosend the paralysis so i could follow but it wasnt long before i was under it agian but this time another was in the room. He looked the same but a different shade...like a darker shade. He was on my bed looking down
at me. This was real but then i feel like im dreaming a moment later because I flew through my window and ended up in a hallway somewhere ive never been, it was long and well lit...metalic like a facility of some sort. The aliens were gone but there were other humans there and we were learning how to fly...or levitaite in our bodies. Any how I enjoyed this part very much and once i had a feeling of accomplishment...I saw a flash of light and I fell back into my bed...it was 10am and time to get up. This was the rest of the story i posted. Before they actually visited me I had several dream experiences with them. Anyhow I want to share them with you. I just feel like i have to talk or ill explode. I was so terrified to sleep after that I refused to sleep on the 1st......I just didnt...i knew they were there waiting and i didnt want to see them again. The next night i called my mother...I slept at her
house on the 2nd...I slept for 16 hours i was so tired. Now its the 3rd and Im back at home...Dont know what will happen tonight...kind of frightened...I have nathan but he is as sensitive as a rock. He was in the room the night they came...I dont think he can do anything...what about my dog duncan..Some nights I think he can protect me other nights I think they knock him out too. Once i was able to pick my sleeping dog up and slam him down on the bed..He didnt move a muscle. Please dont think im crazy..I need friends right now..and you and sarah and my mother are all i have right now.
Sent: Sun, January 3, 2010 8:53:02 PM
J.Jay
Jan 4, 2010, 1:41:50 AM1/4/10
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Bonnie, thats what happened when i was still and calm, When i said to
them okay i know your here just come out...the first alien came out
but it was like he came out of nowhere, like he just manifested into
life. He had me under the paralysis and all i could do was watch. It
walked around my room stopping at the dresser to pick up a christmas
decoration box i had up there. He picked it up and put it back just
inspecting things...Then he continued around just poking about. He
loosened the grip on me enough for me to follow with my head but then
i was paralyzed again as a second one was on the bed itself just
looking at me. They didnt look like i had expected. They were
different shades from eachother and not so cartoonish like we make em
out to be. The next thing i recall i was flying out of my window..but
this part felt like a dream not real like the bedroom experience. I
ended up in a hallway of types and the aliens were gone...It was me
and other humans learning how to fly. Then in a flash of light i felt
like i was dropped back into my room and i woke up at 10. I remember
smelling this awful smell on me i just cant describe like stale, burnt
rubber or vinagerish stuff. Anyhow the 1st i didnt sleep at all, I
spoke with Sarah from our group pretty much all night. She is
awesome. Then when i thought i had the courage to go to bed...i still
was frightened, i could feel their presence so i refused sleep. The
night of the 2nd...last night...I stayed at my mothers....suprising
enough....she believes me. I slept for 16 hours. Im home now, still
afraid. I wish they would return in dream form. I dont think im
ready to see them in person again. Or do you think its to late now.
Do you think they will keep coming in physical form because they
already have?
them okay i know your here just come out...the first alien came out
but it was like he came out of nowhere, like he just manifested into
life. He had me under the paralysis and all i could do was watch. It
walked around my room stopping at the dresser to pick up a christmas
decoration box i had up there. He picked it up and put it back just
inspecting things...Then he continued around just poking about. He
loosened the grip on me enough for me to follow with my head but then
i was paralyzed again as a second one was on the bed itself just
looking at me. They didnt look like i had expected. They were
different shades from eachother and not so cartoonish like we make em
out to be. The next thing i recall i was flying out of my window..but
this part felt like a dream not real like the bedroom experience. I
ended up in a hallway of types and the aliens were gone...It was me
and other humans learning how to fly. Then in a flash of light i felt
like i was dropped back into my room and i woke up at 10. I remember
smelling this awful smell on me i just cant describe like stale, burnt
rubber or vinagerish stuff. Anyhow the 1st i didnt sleep at all, I
spoke with Sarah from our group pretty much all night. She is
awesome. Then when i thought i had the courage to go to bed...i still
was frightened, i could feel their presence so i refused sleep. The
night of the 2nd...last night...I stayed at my mothers....suprising
enough....she believes me. I slept for 16 hours. Im home now, still
afraid. I wish they would return in dream form. I dont think im
ready to see them in person again. Or do you think its to late now.
Do you think they will keep coming in physical form because they
already have?
On Jan 3, 7:18 pm, bonniejeanmitchell <Bonnie_and_J...@yahoo.com>
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bonniejeanmitchell
Jan 5, 2010, 8:01:47 PM1/5/10
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Hi J. Jay,
You asked, "Do you think they will keep coming in physical form
because they already have?" No, not necessarily. The star people
usually do what is easiest for them, and that would be working with
you while your physical form is asleep. I went through the same thing
you are going through now. For me, it was really intense when I was
20-24. I saw the star people about 2-3 times a week, and we would go
to class together. One of the things we did was learn how to fly.
And we had a little "code" that we did: The star people wouldn't come
see me if I was scared. So, if I was getting ready for bed and I got
scared and ran down the hallway, jumped into my bed and pulled the
covers up over my head, the good star people would not visit. However,
that did not stop the mean aliens and secret government agents from
visiting. The good star people would visit if I was brave and walked
slowly down the hallway and calmly got into bed. That was my way of
showing them I was not scared. Then I knew I would see them, and
probably go off in the spaceship somewhere for another lesson.
Don't be afraid. That's the key. And, yes, I do realize how difficult
that is. But the braver you are, the more you will see and learn from
the good, friendly star people.
Many Blessings, Bonnie :-)
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john stratton
Jan 5, 2010, 8:21:50 PM1/5/10
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Hi J , best thing to do if you are afraid of them is to follow Bonnie's advice of grounding and protection at the home page I think because you don't wont to face Grays in fear . It leads to bad experiences that just causes more fear . When you are grounded and ask for protection just talk to them and ask them to stop , stop till you are ready .
Yes from what I have read and seen in the memories I regained no one around you will help even animals as they will just go out like going to sleep and not come back to till it's over , I have read they leave someone there to make sure nothing happens to them while their out but that is only what I have read in several abduction cases . Dogs just head over with their legs sticking up husbands that can not be waken same with wives .
I only had the flying dreams on bicycles , motorcycles , tarps just in the wind so strange for days in a row then they stopped . then family going to a beautiful blue body of water big with out being able to see the other side . different water dreams even crashing in a big river with my grand father while he was driving . then they stopped . then a series of being stuck in mud ones , gun fights , monsters , ghost they run in series then stop and something else starts but right now and for a while I've not been remembering any . Oh I dreamed I sit on a hill side and watched them take me up in a disc via a bright light right through the top of my house in one dream . I wright mine all in a journal and keep them dated with any sightings and so forth of these nature . Sometimes I put it on my blog as no one reads it anyway and it quickly gets buried to where it would have to be pulled by tags or dug for anyway but it is in other places that way also .
No one thinks you are crazy here it's the outside world that has a hard time excepting what is really going on .
John
Yes from what I have read and seen in the memories I regained no one around you will help even animals as they will just go out like going to sleep and not come back to till it's over , I have read they leave someone there to make sure nothing happens to them while their out but that is only what I have read in several abduction cases . Dogs just head over with their legs sticking up husbands that can not be waken same with wives .
I only had the flying dreams on bicycles , motorcycles , tarps just in the wind so strange for days in a row then they stopped . then family going to a beautiful blue body of water big with out being able to see the other side . different water dreams even crashing in a big river with my grand father while he was driving . then they stopped . then a series of being stuck in mud ones , gun fights , monsters , ghost they run in series then stop and something else starts but right now and for a while I've not been remembering any . Oh I dreamed I sit on a hill side and watched them take me up in a disc via a bright light right through the top of my house in one dream . I wright mine all in a journal and keep them dated with any sightings and so forth of these nature . Sometimes I put it on my blog as no one reads it anyway and it quickly gets buried to where it would have to be pulled by tags or dug for anyway but it is in other places that way also .
No one thinks you are crazy here it's the outside world that has a hard time excepting what is really going on .
John
Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 1:11:27 AM
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