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Von

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Feb 7, 2001, 6:47:29 PM2/7/01
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Oh, Dear !!!


kwazimodo <k35...@direct.ca> wrote in message
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> "Von" <V4...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> > Also you forgot torture by sex. Chinese of course. Oh ! I almost
> > forgot. Oriental ox tail soup with mountain dew is not so bad. This
is
> > my 2nd time around so you heard it straight from the horses mouth.
> >
> >
> If the horse is facing north, it sounds more like the post is issuing from
> the southern end.
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> > Chagrin <noe...@domain.com> wrote in message
> > news:9he18t42rj50pv2f0...@4ax.com...
> > > not to mention chinese water torture.
> > >
> > > --Chagrin
> > >
> > > On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:02:38 +1100, "El Dorado"
> > > <el_d...@mail.usa.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > ..
> > >
> > > >The russians used a drowning technique in there interrogations
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
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peromyscus

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Feb 7, 2001, 10:02:59 PM2/7/01
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> > All the other ropes were floating above me, like sort of multicoloured
water
> > snakes. Or a bit like party streamers.
> > Which at the time I found amusing.

his boat just overturned into 4 degree water, he is trapped, and he is
amused???

That didn't bother
> > me. It was nice and quiet, I spent a bit of time looking around
> > so I'm having this dialogue with myself and it goes like this;

of course he is not bothered by the shock that he will die, so he has a
dialogue. hmm.

> > Cold water rushed into my chest. It was really weird, like sort of
liquid
> > ice spreading out inside me. Maybe it helped that I was accepting it? I
> > managed one and a half more breaths, more water into my lungs.

what is the first thing a person does when they get water in their lungs.
cough!!!


> > Apparently if you have full lungs you have 20 seconds consciousness.

i'm sure he was timing it and taking notes.

The water somehow aroused me, and I had the most intense
> > orgasm ever. Seemed to go on for ages.

man, i'm heading for the ocean this very minute!!!

However don't use swimming
> > pools. The water is chlorinated, chlorine irritates the whole of the
> > respiratory tract

nothing worse than an irritated respiratory tract when you are drowning.

> > Military divers have developed oxygenated water that is breathed in both
> > lungs.

now we are really into the wold of fantasy!!


> > The laryngeal reflex sends water into the stomach. My reflex is weak so
> > water goes in my lungs (and i'm naturally negatively buoyant

poor guy can never drink a beer. he has to inhale it.

To somebody who hasn't drowned
> > before, maybe it would be better to throw your head back so you have a
clear
> > airway, inhale as hard and fast as you can.

we should to take a poll of people who have drowned to verify this method
before using it.

> > Ever heard of the Duke of Clarence? The guy who was executed in a barrel
of
> > wine in 1478?

i thought it was in 1473? damn!!!

> > I had a gentle, pleasant, totally painless experience. This is not the
same
> > for everyone...

well, perhaps i should reconsider.

Von

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Feb 8, 2001, 12:25:00 AM2/8/01
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I would really like to help you, but do you know on which NG you are on?

This is the dating network for oriental brides.

When you mention boats I always think of the fishing nets in the sunset.


Von


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silent screamer

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Feb 8, 2001, 8:11:35 AM2/8/01
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were you being funny? *doubles up* eergh..don't make me giggle when i'm ill,
i think i'm gonna cough up my entire digestive system sometime soon if this
cough doesnt stop

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kevnpenn

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>YES MY MAIL ORDER BRIDE APPEARED WITH POSTAGE DUE THANK YOU FOR EXPEDITING
MY ORDER. MY FATHER OWNS A COW CAN YOU SWIM?
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peromyscus

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Feb 8, 2001, 8:56:36 PM2/8/01
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Von <V4...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:M4qg6.833
> This is the dating network for oriental brides.
>
oh no! i thought it was the demented mermaid dating group.

p

peromyscus

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Feb 8, 2001, 8:59:47 PM2/8/01
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> i think i'm gonna cough up my entire digestive system sometime soon if
this
> cough doesnt stop

wow! better do it over the toilet or it's going to be a real bear to clean
up.

p

Von

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Feb 8, 2001, 11:54:18 PM2/8/01
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Both of us !! :)


Von


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Von

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Feb 8, 2001, 11:56:26 PM2/8/01
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Mermaids are not so bad. The all have big boobs.


Von


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Von

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Feb 8, 2001, 11:57:32 PM2/8/01
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Don't get me upset when I am mad.


Von

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silent screamer

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Feb 9, 2001, 6:41:08 AM2/9/01
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uh?

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silent screamer

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Feb 9, 2001, 6:41:43 AM2/9/01
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do you think it'd all fit in the toilet? the bath would be a better bet

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Shirley

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Feb 9, 2001, 7:00:54 AM2/9/01
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I don't know who started it but could we please stop crossposting? It takes
a moment to delete the other names from the header. If you're in alc.suicide
ONLY post there, we've had too many flame wars with ASH and such and I DON"T
want that to start again. Please guys??? for me :::::((((


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silent screamer

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Feb 9, 2001, 2:14:00 PM2/9/01
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oh sorry..i didn't even realise..

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Rockettgirl

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Feb 9, 2001, 8:04:43 PM2/9/01
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I didn't think you started it SS just wanted to make you aware :O)

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Rockettgirl

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Feb 9, 2001, 8:05:18 PM2/9/01
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I didn't think you started it SS just wanted to make you aware :O)

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peromyscus

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Feb 9, 2001, 9:16:08 PM2/9/01
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Von <V4...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:_LKg6.5698> Mermaids are


not so bad. The all have big boobs.

that may be so, but i have always been a little concerned about the another
part of their anatomy. if you look at the lower half of a fish, there
appears to be an essential part missing. that may be why sailor stories of
mermaids always seem to have an air of sadness about them.

p.

p.


peromyscus

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Feb 9, 2001, 9:29:21 PM2/9/01
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silent screamer <li...@is-a.con> wrote in message

news:EIQg6.419$zz4.10341@news2-> do you think it'd all fit in the toilet?


the bath would be a better bet
>

probably true, but maybe you should try to avoid such an outcome in either
location. get well, give up laughing, or down a substantial amount of
alcohol (temporary relief). i recommend getting well.

p.


Von

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Feb 9, 2001, 10:29:04 PM2/9/01
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Hummm?

That's right !


Von


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Kill Me

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On Wednesday, February 7, 2001 at 10:02:59 PM UTC-5, peromyscus wrote:

I was reading through some old topics and came across this one about drowning.

Aside from some of the rather off-beat responses, may I offer my response as someone who was nearly drowned!

I look at death differently than most people in that I see a seriously erotic side to death. Death can be sexy! I expressed my views on a topic about autoeroticism. There is an erotic draw of drowning, but that is the vision of the lifeless nude body of a very attractive woman floating face-up on the surface of the water. The drowning of guys isn't usually seen as sexual. The thing is, guys drown more often than you might think! Although, from my own experience, many guys who do drown are more often than not deliberately held under the water's surface by a second party, and held there until they stop breathing and their heart stops! Then they are left to float

Saying that, please allow me to present a good argument for death by drowning being sexual!

I was nearly drowned myself when I was 22-years-old! It was crazy! At the time, I was living with a guy 2-years my senior, and one thing about him was that he would get rough when it came to things like sex and the like. One night in early July, 1977, it was one of those hot steamy nights, and we had had this torrential downpour that lasted for several hours. It was after midnight, we were out walking after the storm had stopped. An empty field near us was turned into a shallow lake. It wasn't very deep, but enough to where we took off our clothes and waded in. The deepest part was at the middle and the level was just above our knees. One thing lead to another, and next thing I knew, we were both kneeling in the water, and we began to make out. Then it got crazy! I remember that I sat while he knelt. We kept making out, but then, I don't exactly know what lead to the events that quickly unfolded, but, suddenly, out of the blue, my boyfriend grabbed me and pushed me down until, as he straddled my lower body, I was completely submerged! How did he hold me under the water's surface, aside from straddling my body? He wrapped his hands around my neck and began to strangle me, WHILE I WAS STILL COMPLTETELY SUBMERGED! Several minutes later, I was lying on the shoreline coughing and hacking! He had strangled me until my heart stopped, then he let my body float to the surface. He pulled me out and revived me. He really couldn't explain what suddenly came over him to do exactly what he did, except that he said he suddenly had an uncontrolled urge to experience what it felt like to drown me until I was dead! He said it took less than a minute to basically kill me! I was only gone for maybe 3-minutes before he began CPR, and it took quite an effort, but, what little water that was in my lungs was forced out, my heart began to beat, and I began coughing! The crazy part was that it didn't bother me that he tried to kill me, even when he confessed that he was deliberately trying to! It's what happened a few hours later that brought his attempt to kill me into my own reality. It was maybe 8-hours later, and I had been out for a couple of hours. I went for a walk too clear my head and reflect on my boyfriend trying to kill me. When I got back to the apartment, I found him hanged by his neck from the door frame to a hall closet! Was it remorse for trying to kill me? I don't know! All I know is that he was dead, I was still alive, and the whole experience was strangely erotic.

It's like what happened a few years ago around here. There were three young men who found a nice shallow lake, and one evening they decided to see if being under water caused the same effect as having a noose around their necks, as in auto erotic asphyxia. What they found in this lake were some long wooden board, maybe 12-inches by 12-inches by several feet long. It was from an old dock on the lake that had been dumped and left in the water. The board had become very waterlogged and was heavy enough to stay at the bottom of the lake. The board was far enough below the surface, and it had these metal rings mounted into it. What the three did was, after they took their clothes off, then they took the ropes and first, they tied the ropes around one ankle, then they dove under the surface and wrapped the ropes around the rings, then they surfaced. The ropes were long enough that, when they were able to get their heads above the water's surface, they could hold the ropes. They would then go under, but when they did, they would grip the ropes so they could hold the rope with one hand, which was enough to keep them completely submerged, and they could stroke their hard penises with the other hand. All was fine, and when they felt like they were getting overcome by the water, they could release the rope, and it would slip, allowing them to float to the surface before they reached that dangerous point of losing consciousness. Only thing, for two of them, the ropes got tangled and didn't slip! The third young man saw that his friends were in trouble, and went under to try to free the ropes. Unfortunately, he couldn't do it, but rather than leave his two friends to drown, he kept trying to free them. Sadly, the water overtook him. He passed out and he floated face-down to the surface. Someone saw him, pulled him out of the water, and they were able to revive him. By that time, his two friends were already dead. As the two bodies were recovered, the young man who survived confessed that they were experimenting with a theory that drowning can produce the same effect in guys that strangling can. An extreme asphyxia experiment gone seriously bad! Did they did indeed have erections? After my own experience some 35-years previous, I can imagine that having one of their ankles tied so they couldn't float to the surface might be enough to induce a hard-on. And what about ejaculating? When my boyfriend held me under water by strangling me, the strangulation caused me to have an erection! I did ejaculate, but, my boyfriend did say that I didn't go until after I was unconscious. And my erection didn't subside until after he revived me.

It makes one think though, doesn't it? That suicide by drowning can be a rather sexy way to end your life!


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fran...@googlemail.com

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Wow von cant believe you're still knocking about this group

Kenny Boleyn

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On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 5:43:33 AM UTC-4, Kill Me wrote:
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> It makes one think though, doesn't it? That suicide by drowning can be a rather sexy way to end your life!

I don't know if suicide by drowning could be considered sexy, but as one who was almost drowned, there might be something to that. I was 19 and was out with friends and we were swimming in a relatively shallow lake. The lake was maybe 10 feet deep, but had a lot of growth along the bottom. While swimming, I was diving down to see how far down I could go and how long I could hold my breath for. As I swam along the bottom, a piece of that growth got wrapped around my left ankle. I couldn't get free, and I lost consciousness. It didn't take anyone long to realize I was missing, and a friend jumped in to see where I was. When he saw my body, he knew I was unconscious. he tried to free my ankle but couldn't. He had to get back to the surface and get a knife, then jump back in to cut the growth away from my ankle and float me to the surface. By then, I was out for almost 4 minutes, and my heart had stopped. (Not the first time that happened!) I don't know who the person was, but someone began CPR on me (not the first time I had to have that either) as soon as they got me on shore. I was so close to death that day! Looking back and remembering what I was feeling as I struggled to free myself, it was quite a euphoric feeling as I was drowning. Maybe it was the feeling that I was dying made it feel that way. I had felt that same feeling twice before that, once when I was 14, and again a year before this incident. Both times involving two of my three suicide attempts!
So maybe you're on to something!
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