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Josh_Campbell

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Jan 18, 2012, 11:50:17 PM1/18/12
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Name: Joshua A. Campbell
Age: 32
Previous Careers: 11 years Army Medic, two years Federal Police
Current status: Senior at Devry College of Engineering and Computer
Science
Major: Computer Information Systems
Languages: C#, Java, HTML5


I just wanted to take a moment to introduce myself, and to say thank
you for allowing me to become a member. I look forward to meeting
everyone and gaining valuable insights from your professional
experience at future meetings.



Sincerely,


Josh

Kyle Jennings

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Jan 19, 2012, 8:49:01 AM1/19/12
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Welcome. I am in my last semester at Devry and am starting at Keller.  Welcome to the group

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Josh_Campbell

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Jan 20, 2012, 10:14:31 PM1/20/12
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I see that there isn't much conversation going on in the thread these
days. Are meetings still held?
> I was rather excited about meeting up with a few of my fellow programmers at some point. I know it sounds
> strange, but lately it has begun to feel as though I am in this field all alone. Outside of my professor at school,
> I don't really know anyone else who knows how to program. Makes it incredibly difficult to get guidance or share ideas.

On Jan 19, 7:49 am, Kyle Jennings <kjennings....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Welcome. I am in my last semester at Devry and am starting at Keller.
> Welcome to the group
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Greg Cerveny

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Jan 21, 2012, 12:25:33 PM1/21/12
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Lots of stuff is going on at geekdom. 

If you're looking to meet programmers come down and hang out some time.

I also run an iOS meetup there on the second Wednesday of the month. 


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 21, 2012, at 11:11, Ryan Svihla <rssv...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey josh,

The group usually takes a bit of a hiatus in the  winter months but honestly I don't know what the future holds.

Attendance has been low for awhile and getting speakers for meetings had become increasingly difficult. I used to help organize the group up until my daughter was born, but now I don't have the free time to help.

The current directors are busy professionals themselves and I'm not sure what their availability is to organize the group. Outside of them no one that I know of has expressed interest in organizing upcoming meetings.
--
Thanks,

Ryan Svihla

iSeiryu

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Jan 21, 2012, 12:50:00 PM1/21/12
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You mean this place: http://www.geekdom.com ?
Because I am a new member as well and I'm interested in meeting.

On Jan 21, 11:25 am, Greg Cerveny <greg.cerv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lots of stuff is going on at geekdom.
>
> If you're looking to meet programmers come down and hang out some time.
>
> I also run an iOS meetup there on the second Wednesday of the month.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 21, 2012, at 11:11, Ryan Svihla <rssvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Hey josh,
>
> > The group usually takes a bit of a hiatus in the  winter months but honestly I don't know what the future holds.
>
> > Attendance has been low for awhile and getting speakers for meetings had become increasingly difficult. I used to help organize the group up until my daughter was born, but now I don't have the free time to help.
>
> > The current directors are busy professionals themselves and I'm not sure what their availability is to organize the group. Outside of them no one that I know of has expressed interest in organizing upcoming meetings.
>

Greg Cerveny

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Jan 21, 2012, 1:16:11 PM1/21/12
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Yup! I'm there most of the time. My office is F, but I'm all over the place.

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iSeiryu

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Jan 21, 2012, 1:57:24 PM1/21/12
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I don't really like the idea to pay to make a meeting but still thanks
for the information.

On Jan 21, 12:16 pm, Greg Cerveny <greg.cerv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yup! I'm there most of the time. My office is F, but I'm all over the place.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>

Greg Cerveny

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Jan 21, 2012, 2:18:27 PM1/21/12
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Meetings, at least currently, aren't being charged. Start one!

We need more events going on this city.

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iSeiryu

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Jan 21, 2012, 3:04:14 PM1/21/12
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I agree that we need more events but I don't know people and any place
where to invite them. I'd like to help someone with it but I can't be
a meeting's leader.

On Jan 21, 1:18 pm, Greg Cerveny <greg.cerv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Meetings, at least currently, aren't being charged. Start one!
>
> We need more events going on this city.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>

Josh_Campbell

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Jan 21, 2012, 4:25:47 PM1/21/12
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Well, even if we can't get an auditorium or a professional speakers,
we can still meet up at a local Starbucks with some laptops and talk
shop. Lets not forget that the biggest companies in the world were
formed in garages and motel rooms with nothing more than ambition.
Until we all get together to pool our resources and see what areas we
share in strength, we'll never know what we have to work with. Greg's
geekdom suggestion was a great idea, and I had never heard of that
place before. Becoming an AlamoCoder member already paid off lol

I am not sure what everyone's status is, but I'm simply a student who
loves to code, and who seriously needs mentoring from more senior
level programmers for some direction. I've tried to get unpaid
internships, I've tried to get entry-level developer positions asking
only 10.00 dollars an hour opposed to the 35.00 they were offering,
and practically groveled in dirt for recruiters to actually stop
wasting my time and show me an employer... zilch. Trying to learn
software development on your own without direction is like treading
water in the middle of the ocean trying to figure out which way to
swim.

Jason Meridth

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Jan 21, 2012, 4:47:57 PM1/21/12
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Josh,
Purpose:
Mentoring younger developers and growing the San Antonio community is exactly why AlamoCoders was created.  I believe this group has died but would love to be proven wrong.  

Help:
I would love to help you in any way I can.  Drop me a line on my email address.

Alternatives:

Those 2 seem to be the new hotness.

Place:
Local Coffee on Sonterra/Sigma (http://www.localcoffeesa.com/location/) has great/free wifi and supports local coffee growers.  Don't do Starbucks! ;)

---
Jason Meridth

Ryan Svihla

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Jan 21, 2012, 5:55:36 PM1/21/12
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Josh,

I really appreciate your enthusiasm and desire to want to learn more from those with more experience. I wish more of us in the industry had that attitude.

 However, this statement tells me you're missing something _very_ key

Trying to learn
software development on your own without direction is like treading
water in the middle of the ocean trying to figure out which way to
swim.

 
There is no shortage of materials (books, blogs, screencasts, etc) out there to give you direction and frankly if you want to thrive in our industry you'll have to learn how to _regularly_ rely on those same materials to keep your skills relevant. This re-learning process is something all senior developers I know do throughout their careers. 

While I definitely think that working with other developers face to face will help a great deal, and it's certainly something that's been very valuable to my career, nothing will replace self study. 


PS also check out Austin Code Camps and things like Pablos Fiesta

Josh_Campbell

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Jan 21, 2012, 6:38:45 PM1/21/12
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Ryan,

I am extremely grateful for your advice, and I couldn't agree with you
more. In fact, I have been pushing that exact point of view for well
over a year now at Devry. I tutored CIS students in Object Oriented
programming for 6 months, and dedicated more time and effort helping
students, who had little interest outside of having me do their
homework, than I should have. Even my programming professor for whom I
was trying to assist kept shooting me down in class by saying "don't
worry too much about this and that, the degree will get you jobs." He
would say this right after I had spent 20 minutes explaining the
importance of learning SDLC and related design methodologies, as well
as, firmly grasping OO principles such as class construction,
interference, polymorphism, etc. During our database class, I stood at
the board and tried to walk the class through the design process and
explain why it was important not to skip steps (such as analysis) and
again the professor said not worry about the details.


I only mention this because I fear that you have misinterpreted my
last post. My passion for being a code developer is equally matched by
my passion for self learning. 90% of my knowledge is self learned. If
I had to guess, I would say I have spent over 7k in the last year on
personal software development learning material. Some of the resources
include:

Lifetime membership to learnvisualstudio.net
Lifetime membership to trainingspot.com
Student membership to ACM,org

Self learning books on: C# , Java, Ajax, HTML5/CSS3, Database design,
UML2, good coding practices, mobile device development, etc.

I built 3 computers in order to learn networking with Server 2008r2,
AD, user permissions, etc.
I built a server to learn how to set hyper-V, DNS servers, Web
servers, IIS, and learn ASP.net and HTML5/CSS3 (Although I haven't
figured out how to get the web server to work, and don't know anyone
who could help)

I have deliberately positioned myself so that, even if I don't know
it, I have the ability to learn anything an employer would ask for.
What I meant by, "Trying to learn software development on your own
without direction ... " is that the IT and Software Development fields
are huge, and each employer wants you to know something different.
It's like treading water and seeing 360 degrees of no land and trying
to decide which way to swim. An employer will tell you which way to
swim. And as I mentioned earlier, I have even tried to work for free,
simply to get an employer to tell me which direction to swim, but have
come up empty. It's frustrating to say the least. What employer
doesn't want a CIS senior and passionate programmer for free?

So that, in a nutshell, is me. I just want to surround myself in the
Software field, soak up all the experience I can from my mentors, and
then pass it on to others so that they can continue to engineer the
world. I may be 32 years old, but I still dream of designing
humanities next big thing.

-- Programmers are limited only by their imagination and the speed of
their fingers --

Robert Ford

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Jan 21, 2012, 11:02:59 PM1/21/12
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Josh,

I think many of us has been there and even though there may not be many
official meetings many would be willing to help. I actually have not been
able to attend any of the previous meetings due to availability thou I
participate in many forums. I have a full-time job and am working on
launching a web design business so that plus a family makes it difficult
to get out of the house at time. With that being said I do have many years
experience in dev (windows and web) along with database, security and
admin experience and would have no issues with answering questions or
giving direction. I was a little saddened when I moved here a few years
ago on how quite the it community here is. Where I moved from in phoenix
we had a pretty strong group and there were a lot of tech conferences
available. You have to drive into austin for anything worthwhile out here.

Let me know if there is anything I can help you with.

Thanks,
Robert Ford
Rober...@ford-fam.com


Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

Josh_Campbell <gelfan...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Well, even if we can't get an auditorium or a professional speakers,
we can still meet up at a local Starbucks with some laptops and talk
shop. Lets not forget that the biggest companies in the world were
formed in garages and motel rooms with nothing more than ambition.
Until we all get together to pool our resources and see what areas we
share in strength, we'll never know what we have to work with. Greg's
geekdom suggestion was a great idea, and I had never heard of that
place before. Becoming an AlamoCoder member already paid off lol

I am not sure what everyone's status is, but I'm simply a student who
loves to code, and who seriously needs mentoring from more senior
level programmers for some direction. I've tried to get unpaid
internships, I've tried to get entry-level developer positions asking
only 10.00 dollars an hour opposed to the 35.00 they were offering,
and practically groveled in dirt for recruiters to actually stop

wasting my time and show me an employer... zilch. Trying to learn


software development on your own without direction is like treading
water in the middle of the ocean trying to figure out which way to
swim.

On Jan 21, 2:04 pm, iSeiryu <isei...@gmail.com> wrote:

Kyle Jennings

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Jan 23, 2012, 2:10:42 PM1/23/12
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Josh,

If you would like to meet up sometime I would like to do that. I
always enjoy conversing with people who have similar interests that I
have.
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Josh_Campbell

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Jan 23, 2012, 7:41:37 PM1/23/12
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Sorry, I have been jumping through my skin the past couple of days
trying to master accounting. It's an incredibly perception altering
subject, I have no idea why so many people avoid it like the plague
lol.


I am definitely up for meeting anyone who shares interest in the IT/
Software Development field to share knowledge or simply shoot the
sh**. As I have stated previously, lately I have begun to feel alone
in this chosen field. Anytime I begin to to rattle on to a friend
about Stream-Buffers, Event-Handlers, Logic Gates, etc. I tend to get
weird looks and unconvincing nods lol.

Jason Meridth suggested a place "Local Coffee" http://www.localcoffeesa.com/location/
out in Stone Oaks if anyone is interested in meeting up there sometime
this week. Although I lack the more advanced enterprise-level
experience that the seniors in here do, I do have a strong
understanding of OO programming concepts in both Java and C# using
Eclipse and Visual Studio 2010/2011 if other students in here are
looking for added explanations of that sort. Any time you want, my
knowledge is your knowledge.

And as always, to all the senior developers who have openly offered
guidance and support to us tadpoles, I am sure I can speak for the
rest when say, your time and experience is appreciated.

-Josh-

915)822-6763
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iSeiryu

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Jan 23, 2012, 9:10:31 PM1/23/12
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Josh,
I've sent you an email two days ago. You didn't answer yet...

I see that we have at least 4 guys who'd like to meet. So why not? I
am ready just need to decide which day and time.
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Josh_Campbell

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Jan 23, 2012, 9:22:24 PM1/23/12
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I do apologize for that iSeiryu, I now remember writing a reply to
your email, but an interruption kept me from following through with
its sending.

How about Friday at 7pm at Local Coffee for anyone who wants to
attend? Drinks are on me.
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iSeiryu

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Jan 23, 2012, 9:56:23 PM1/23/12
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If the drinks are on you then I can't say No :D
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Doug

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Jan 24, 2012, 12:45:50 PM1/24/12
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Josh,

I have to agree that the AlamoCoders meetings are pretty much dead.  It's a shame too because I learned a lot from attending the .Net/Ruby/Erlang/Book Club meetings, not to mention all the use I got from a free Resharper license I won at one of the meetings a couple of years ago.  I am glad to see that there are still a lot of people paying attention to the mailing list though.  Maybe someday the meetings will resume.

I have to disagree with Robert's comments that anything worthwhile is only happening in Austin.  Yes, Austin's community is much better than San Antonio's, but that doesn't mean that there is nothing going on here.  There are plenty of groups still holding meetings in town, you just have to look for them.

I highly recommend the Java User Group meetings (Website: http://satjug.java.net/, Mailing list: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/satjug)  as well as the Linux User Group meetings: (http://satlug.org/).  There's also a new iOS Developer group that just started meeting a couple of months ago (http://www.sa-ios.com/) that looks promising.

There's also a few other groups that you may find interesting: Cold Fusion User Group (http://meetup.alamocfug.org/), SQL Admin Group (http://www.salssa.com/), San Antonio IEEE (http://www.ieee-cs-cts.org/index.htm), Erlang Group (which may or may not be dead http://www.meetup.com/ErlangSanAntonio/),  SA Game Engineers (http://www.meetup.com/SAGEgroup/), and a SharePoint Group (http://sasug.net/SitePages/Home.aspx)

I've been to quite a few of them and have met some really interesting people.  Hang in there, and hopefully we'll meet at the next JUG.

-Doug

Josh_Campbell

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Jan 24, 2012, 5:52:23 PM1/24/12
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Doug,

I checked out those links and agree that there is an abundance of good
information to be had there, unfortunately none cater to the .NET
application framework as AlamoCoders seemed to focus on. SQL,
Sharepoint, Linux, Java, etc. are all major tenants in the IT
industry, but more and more schools are moving to C#. Personally,
having used both languages, I see C# becoming the dominant OO language
sooner than later.

This is one of those rare occasions when I wish I had the resources
necessary to take hold of the reigns and breath life back into the
group, but realistically, that position must go to more senior
programmers. Trying to run before learning to walk will always lead to
unbalanced strides, and I'm not a fan of falling over ; )

-- Dreams and accomplishments are separate domains. --






On Jan 24, 11:45 am, Doug <dougmendiza...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Josh,
>
> I have to agree that the AlamoCoders meetings are pretty much dead.  It's a
> shame too because I learned a lot from attending the .Net/Ruby/Erlang/Book
> Club meetings, not to mention all the use I got from a free Resharper
> license I won at one of the meetings a couple of years ago.  I am glad to
> see that there are still a lot of people paying attention to the mailing
> list though.  Maybe someday the meetings will resume.
>
> I have to disagree with Robert's comments that anything worthwhile is only
> happening in Austin.  Yes, Austin's community is much better than San
> Antonio's, but that doesn't mean that there is nothing going on here.
>  There are plenty of groups still holding meetings in town, you just have
> to look for them.
>
> I highly recommend the Java User Group meetings (Website:http://satjug.java.net/, Mailing list:https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/satjug)  as well as the Linux User
> Group meetings: (http://satlug.org/).  There's also a new iOS Developer
> group that just started meeting a couple of months ago (http://www.sa-ios.com/) that looks promising.
>
> There's also a few other groups that you may find interesting: Cold Fusion
> User Group (http://meetup.alamocfug.org/), SQL Admin Group (http://www.salssa.com/), San Antonio IEEE (http://www.ieee-cs-cts.org/index.htm), Erlang Group (which may or may not
> be deadhttp://www.meetup.com/ErlangSanAntonio/),  SA Game Engineers (http://www.meetup.com/SAGEgroup/), and a SharePoint Group (http://sasug.net/SitePages/Home.aspx)

Kai Janson

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Jan 24, 2012, 10:31:49 PM1/24/12
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AlamoCoders!

I am currently ramping up on my Erlang skills, specifically on rebar, EUnit and other goodies so that I can hold another Erlang class soon.  I am expecting to be able to teach the basics of Erlangs OTP which makes it very powerful and fault tolerant.  Furthermore, I am contributing to and watching the ChicagoBoss framework since this is the next big thing to come; a scalable, easy to comprehend, solid framework which is a lot of fun to work with.

In this swoop, I am also looking deeper into typical Functional Programming styles and how they differ from the typical Imperative Languages.  I want to put a hands-on-course together which shows the differences between functional and imperative languages very clearly.  That can only happen if there is some more interest than there has been before.  It would be nice to get like 10 people in a room and not just three.

So, if you all like these ideas then please let me know.  If you have specific wishes on stuff to cover, please let me know ahead of time, so I can dig deep and provide comprehensible answers to your questions.

Thank you for reading!
--Kai

BTW: Welcome all you new people! :) Glad to have you!

Alex Mancilla

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Jan 24, 2012, 10:45:12 PM1/24/12
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I would like something like that, please count me in, at beginner level for functional  programming

Kai Janson

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Jan 24, 2012, 10:58:47 PM1/24/12
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Hi Alex,

I am glad to hear it.  Now we need NINE more people.

--Kai
P.S.> I forgot the links for the web framework: http://www.chicagoboss.org
It has a nice tutorial and all you need to start in one spot. If you have questions, there is an IRC channel, a google user group and a very responsive group.  Go, get it while it's still hot and fresh from the press. :)

Josh_Campbell

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Jan 24, 2012, 11:13:26 PM1/24/12
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I'm definitely in. Just let me know what you need.

On Jan 24, 9:58 pm, Kai Janson <kot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> I am glad to hear it.  Now we need NINE more people.
>
> --Kai
> P.S.> I forgot the links for the web framework:http://www.chicagoboss.org
> It has a nice tutorial and all you need to start in one spot. If you have
> questions, there is an IRC channel, a google user group and a very
> responsive group.  Go, get it while it's still hot and fresh from the
> press. :)
>
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2012, Alex Mancilla <alex.manci...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I would like something like that, please count me in, at beginner level
>
> for functional  programming
>
> > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Kai Janson <kot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > AlamoCoders!
>
> > I am currently ramping up on my Erlang skills, specifically on rebar,
>
> EUnit and other goodies so that I can hold another Erlang class soon.  I am
> expecting to be able to teach the basics of Erlangs OTP which makes it very
> powerful and fault tolerant.  Furthermore, I am contributing to and
> watching the ChicagoBoss framework since this is the next big thing to
> come; a scalable, easy to comprehend, solid framework which is a lot of fun
> to work with.
>
> > In this swoop, I am also looking deeper into typical Functional
>
> Programming styles and how they differ from the typical Imperative
> Languages.  I want to put a hands-on-course together which shows the
> differences between functional and imperative languages very clearly.  That
> can only happen if there is some more interest than there has been before.
>  It would be nice to get like 10 people in a room and not just three.
>
> > So, if you all like these ideas then please let me know.  If you have
>
> specific wishes on stuff to cover, please let me know ahead of time, so I
> can dig deep and provide comprehensible answers to your questions.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Thank you for reading!
> > --Kai
>
> > BTW: Welcome all you new people! :) Glad to have you!
>
> > On Tuesday, January 24, 2012, Josh_Campbell <gelfan_dot...@yahoo.com>

Kai Janson

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Jan 24, 2012, 11:23:04 PM1/24/12
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Hi Josh!

Welcome aboard!

Now we need EIGHT more people!

—Kai

Josh_Campbell

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Jan 24, 2012, 11:31:16 PM1/24/12
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It may be advantageous to start this topic in a clean thread. That
way, we can focus solely on the information at hand.

Kai Janson

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Jan 24, 2012, 11:33:38 PM1/24/12
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Go ahead!

Sent from my iPhone

iSeiryu

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Jan 25, 2012, 11:54:33 AM1/25/12
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I wanted to start to learn functional programming awhile ago so I'm in
too.

On Jan 24, 10:13 pm, Josh_Campbell <gelfan_dot...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Ryan Stewart

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Jan 25, 2012, 2:33:35 PM1/25/12
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I may be interested in that. What kind of schedule/format do you have in mind?

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