Did Imam Bukhari leave out many hadith as "fabricated?" Serious error of munkareene hadith & "Quran Onlys."

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ABOMINATION HORRIBILIS
All those who accept and admit such abomination blasphemy
have nothing to do with
YMAAN
they might do the prayers they might fast ramadan
they might go to the meck
yet their hearts are immaculate and filled with baseness 
and not cleansed and purified to be a radiant receptacle
for the only love
of
ALLAH & MOUHAMMAD
with the unwavering and firm determination
to fellow the AHL BAYT MOUHAMMAD
who have the true ISLAM AS GIVEN TO THE 
خاتم النبيين محمد صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم

SAHIH BOUIKHARY IS FILLED WITH NASTY DIRT
 

Why Did Muhammad Attempt Suicide?

Early Muslim sources agree that Muhammad tried to commit suicide (or at least considered it). Indeed, Bukhari reports that Muhammad attempted suicide on multiple occasions. However, while various accounts agree on Muhammad’s preferred method of suicide (leaping off a cliff), they disagree on his motivation (i.e. the basis of his suicidal depression). Let’s consider three different reports.

According to Ibn Ishaq’s Sirat Rasul Allah (our earliest detailed biographical record on the life of Muhammad), the prophet of Islam attempted to kill himself because he believed he was possessed by an evil spirit. After having a nightmare about a spirit physically attacking him and forcing him to recite verses of the Qur’an, Muhammad decided that hurling himself off a cliff was the best option available: 

Ibn Ishaq, p. 106—[Muhammad said,] “So I read it, and he departed from me. And I awoke from my sleep, and it was as though these words were written on my heart. (T. Now none of God's creatures was more hateful to me than an (ecstatic) poet or a man possessed: I could not even look at them. I thought, Woe is me poet or possessed—Never shall Quraysh say this of me! I will go to the top of the mountain and throw myself down that I may kill myself and gain rest. So I went forth to do so and then) when I was midway on the mountain, I heard a voice from heaven saying, “O Muhammad! thou art the apostle of God and I am Gabriel.”

Al-Tabari includes several narrations about Muhammad’s suicide attempts in his massive Ta’rikh al-Rusul wa’l-Muluk. In one version, Muhammad tries to kill himself before receiving his first Qur’anic revelation. During his yearly pagan religious retreat, a spirit appeared to him and said, “Muhammad, you are the Messenger of God.” Muhammad then fled to his wife Khadijah and begged her to cover him. After this, Muhammad considered killing himself: 

Al-Tabari, Volume VI, p. 68—He (Muhammad) said: I had been thinking of hurling myself down from a mountain crag, but he appeared to me, as I was thinking about this, and said, “Muhammad, I am Gabriel and you are the Messenger of God.” Then he said, “Recite!” I said, “What shall I recite?” He took me and pressed me three times tightly until I was nearly stifled and was utterly exhausted; then he said: “Recite in the name of your Lord who created,” and I recited it. Then I went to Khadijah and said, “I have been in fear for my life.”

The great Hadith scholar Bukhari places Muhammad’s suicide attempts after the death of Khadijah’s cousin Waraqa. The motive is also different. In this version, Muhammad tries to kill himself multiple times because Gabriel was no longer bringing revelations. 

Sahih al-Bukhari 6982— . . . But after a few days Waraqa died and the Divine Revelation was also paused for a while and the Prophet became so sad as we have heard that he intended several times to throw himself from the tops of high mountains and everytime he went up to the top of a mountain in order to throw himself down, Jibril would appear before him and say, “O Muhammad! You are indeed Allah’s Messenger in truth”, whereupon his heart would become quiet and he would calm down and would return home. And whenever the period of the coming of the Revelation used to become long, he would do as before, but when he used to reach the top of a mountain, Jibril would appear before him and say to him what he had said before.

Why did Muhammad attempt suicide? It’s certainly possible that all three accounts are correct, and that Muhammad simply had an extremely bad habit of deciding to kill himself whenever he was upset. It’s also possible that only one of the above versions is correct, and that Muhammad’s followers modified the story in different narrations in order to reduce the embarrassment. If we follow this path, we would have to conclude that Ibn Ishaq’s version (which happens to be the earliest) is the correct account, and that the version quoted from al-Tabari was watered down by having Muhammad merely contemplate suicide (though not actually attempting it), while Bukhari’s version was watered down by portraying Muhammad as depressed due to Gabriel’s absence (rather than the fear of demonic possession). 

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Subject: Re: {TCW} Did Imam Bukhari leave out many hadith as "fabricated?" Serious error of munkareene hadith & "Quran Onlys."

 
THE FOUR FIQH AHLE SUNNAH WERE WRITTEN 200 YEARS AFTER THE DEMISE OF THE RASOOL (s) BASED ON THE SAME AHADEES YOU ARE CALLING MOSTLY FALSE 
& FABRICATED . ALLAH HI MAALIK AISAY MAZHAB KA .
WHERE FROM SO MANY INNOVATIONS CAME ?, IT IS BECAUSE OF THIS, BECAUSE OF THIS , BECAUSE OF THIS.

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 11:23 AM, kaukab siddique butsh...@hotmail.com [the-criterion-world] <the-crite...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
Serious Error in Understanding Imam Bukhar's Selection of Hadith.
Research by Kaukab Siddique, PhD

Attack on the Hadith is carried out under the slogan of Quran only. Thus the attack can resonate among Muslims who though westernized have considerable loyalty to Islam. It is often not seen as an attack on Islam at all but rather as an attempt to purify Islam.
The beginning point is usually to claim that Imam Bukhari himself, the foremost among compilers of hadith selected only a couple thousand hadith from among the 600,000 or so which he found.

Here is a typical comment on Hadith from G. A. Pervez . With reference to the collectors of Hadith , he says:

"They found hundreds of thousands of Hadith but there were very few among them which they (the collectors) declared sahih (correct or authentic) and recorded them in their compilations. By the way, notice how many hadith these persons found and how many hadith they selected for inclusion in their compilations:
1. Imam Bukhari. Out of 600,000, leaving out repeats, he took only 2762.
2. Imam Muslim. Out of 300,000, only 4348.. and so on he goes on with the remaining six books of Hadith.
He concludes thus:
Obviously when the acceptance and rejection of hadith depends on the compilers perception, who can say that out of this dump of hundreds of thousands which these persons rejected, how many authentic hadith might have also been wasted. As for the many hadith among those which these persons chose, which can in no way be considered the words and actions of the Prophet (pbuh), will be clarified further on in this book. (Matalib al-Quran volume 4 by G. A. Pervez, pages 352 and 353).

This quote is important because it has become the staple of anti-Hadith polemic during the more recent war against Islam. Notice the attempt to speculate and cause doubt: "who can say."
The date of publication is important: 1981.
The publisher is the Perwezi sect's organization called Idara-e-Tolu-Islam.

This could have been just an individual's misunderstanding of Hadith. However, the publishers present Pervez as Mufak-kir-e-Quran [The Quranic Thinker]. Important here is Pervez's dishonesty. He did not admit an important fact that these objections against Hadith have been brought by ALL THE FAMOUS CHRISTIAN MISSIONARY WRITERS. In a translation of The Life and Message of Muhammad (pbuh) by Allama Saiyid Sulaimam Nadwi by Mohiuddin Ahmad (published in 1977, four years before Perwez's book), we are given precise information on the Christian missionary charge against Hadith relating to the SPECIFIC ISSUE of the few hadith selected out of 600,000 etc by Bukhari and others.

The following FAMOUS Christian writers contended on the basis of Bukhari's selection from 600,000 and Ibn Hanbal's out of 7,500,000 that hadith was all a mass of forgeries and dubious reports. These charges occur in a variety of forms in:
1. Muir, LIFE OF MAHOMET, London, 1894, vol.1, page xxxvii
2. H.A. R. Gibbs, MOHAMMDANISM, London, 1964, page. 79.
3. R. A. Nicholson, A LITERARY HISTORY OF THE ARABS, Cambridge, page 1962
4. A. Guillaume, ISLAM, p. 91

Pervez was not a scholar of Hadith  and he cleverly concealed the probable source of his attack on Hadith:
Christian missionary polemicists.
Pervez was not a scholar of Hadith. He did not know even its basics. Unfortunately he made a virtue of his ignorance. In simplified form, here are a few points which will help readers understand why there were so many hadith and Bukhari only selected a couple thousand:
1. If a hadith is narrated by a hundred students of the companions of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), it is counted in hadith narration as ONE HUNDRED HADITH. Thus the text is only ONE, but the chains of narration come from many narrators. Take the first hadith in Bukhari's Sahih: IT IS NARRATED by way of many chains of narration. The Prophet said (pbuh):
ACTIONS SHALL BE JUDGED BY INTENTIONS. If 70 students of the Prophets companions heard this hadith from hazrat Umar (r.a.), one of his companions, that would start 70 chains of narration. The students student would have his own student and school of learning, etc.

IMAM BUKHARI would look at the 70 chains of narration (or 70 hadith) and SELECT THE ONE HE CONSIDERED the MOST RELIABLE OR COMPLETE.
The process goes on with all the hadith he selected.
He is not leaving out any fabrications. [He would not even consider fabrications.] He is leaving out chains of narrations which are not the best. [For numerous specific examples, see Azmi's STUDIES IN EARLY HADITH LITERATURE, 1968 and Mustafa Sibais AL-SUNNAH Wa MAKANATUHA FI AL ISLAM, 1961.]

The full title of Bukhari's compilation contains the word Al-MUKHTASAR which indicates clearly that he was NOT trying to collect ALL the correct Hadith but a selection of authentic hadith.

[For our Urdu readers, if a person selects some of Iqbal's poetry, and compiles a selection of what he considers the best, that does not mean that the poetry he does not select is FABRICATED and does not belong to Iqbal.]

This is only one of the proofs that Pervez was a charlatan and a liar deliberately publishing false stories against Hadith to spread distrust and suspicion against the second sacred source of Islam, the Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

People like Pervez, the ENEMY WITHIN, are the northern alliance of today, helping the Jews to mislead Muslim elites about the authenticity of Islamic texts.
Today attacks on hadith have become a worldwide industry, nourished by Jewish and Christian missionary scholars and their brainwashed Muslim followers.



 
أَعُوذُ بِٱللَّهِ مِنَ ٱلشَّيۡطَـٰنِ ٱلرَّجِيمِ
بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ
Nazir,
This world has to come to an end and it will happen sooner than you think. Giving you a date and time will not do any good for you. However, if you correct your beliefs and surrender to ALLAH taala then it won't make any difference whether it come before your death or not. 
Anwar,
Rasoolullah did not make any such predictions, they are lies fabricated in his name. alQuraan speaks just about everything including the signs of Qayamat and all of them have come true. Except a few, that can happen in the blink of an eye. The two that I am a bit curious about are 1: Yajooj/Majooj 2:DaabatulArzd. I do not wish to see that in my life but if that is my ALLAH's will. 
وَهَـذَا كِتَابٌ أَنزَلْنَاهُ مُبَارَكٌ فَاتَّبِعُوهُ وَاتَّقُواْ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُرْحَمُونَ 6:155
6:155 And this is a Book which We have revealed as a blessing: so follow it and be righteous, that ye may receive mercy.
Syed Ali,
Muslim.


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Nazir

Unlike Christians ( who have been telling about imminent end of the world for 2000 years ), Muslims have not been predicting end of the world for centuries. It is only within the last generation or so, that the two predictions of the Prophet ( pbuh ) regarding the End Times while answering a question from Jibreel  AS, have come true; overbearing children who will order around their parents and children of bare footed Arab shepherds competing with one another in building higher and higher buildings. ( I have seen them both ).There are not any more signs to be unveiled. No Jesus ( pbuh ) or  Mahdi will herald the coming of the Day. Three massive sink holes predicted by the prophet as another important sign, may appear anytime now ( fracking for oil will contribute to that ). 
Let us wait and see.

KA

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On Jun 19, 2016, at 10:52 PM, Nazir <nss...@att.net> wrote:

For 2000years the Christians have been talking about the end of the world. Muslas have been shouting the same for last 1400 years. Please go home and do something useful and stop this scare tactic of world coming to an end. Every year I hear the same nonsense. If it is going to end soon as you say give me the damn date and time.
Else stop this BS

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On Jun 19, 2016, at 9:45 PM, Syed Ali <saba...@hotmail.com> wrote:

أَعُوذُ بِٱللَّهِ مِنَ ٱلشَّيۡطَـٰنِ ٱلرَّجِيمِ
بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ
Neither Mehdi nor Masih... nobody is coming to orchestrate a massacre or to change your pathetic lives full of sins.  You have to repent and rise yourself without causing any bloodshed. 
Islam was completed upon Muhammad elahy salaam and now only Qayamat is to happen.... anytime soon.
وَهَـذَا كِتَابٌ أَنزَلْنَاهُ مُبَارَكٌ فَاتَّبِعُوهُ وَاتَّقُواْ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُرْحَمُونَ 6:155
6:155 And this is a Book which We have revealed as a blessing: so follow it and be righteous, that ye may receive mercy.
Syed Ali,
Muslim.


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> Subject: Recent interview - Miraculous Muslim Boy from Tanzania now a young man - YouTube
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