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Mr. Kelly

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Brown v. BOE and Rowe v. Wade in Google Docs.
Answer two of the following questions on each doc (for a total of four
answers).
Respond to one other students answer for each doc (for a total of two
responses.)
Please post answers in response to this message, not as a new thread.

Brown v. BOE

1. Under what parts of the Constitution is Brown decided? Was the
Constitution applied correctly in your opinion?

2. Do you agree or disagree with the Supreme Court’s final method of
implementation of the Brown
decision? What effects did this process ultimately have upon
desegregation in the South?

3. Was desegregation possible without Brown? How could it have
occurred?

Rowe v. Wade

1. What interests does Justice Blackmun, who wrote the Supreme Court’s
opinion in Roe v. Wade, find the
state has in the regulation of abortion? What are the implications of
this finding beyond abortion?

2. On what grounds does Blackmun find that under certain circumstances
a woman has a constitutional
right to have an abortion? Is this an appropriate application of this
right?

3. How does Justice Blackmun balance private rights with governmental
interests in Roe v. Wade? How would you alter this balance? Why?

4. What is Justice Rehnquist’s rationale in his dissenting opinion in
Roe v. Wade? Do you agree with Blackmon or Rehnquist? Why?

Raichal

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Brown v. Board of Education

1.What part of the Constitution is Brown decided? Was it applied
correctly?
-It was decided on the 14th amendment, or more specifically the
'Due Process Clause'. It was applied in both the right and wrong way
because it did count in that instance but had mostly been used in the
Plessy v. Ferguson case meaning it hadn't been applied to public
education before and was a touchy subject to being with.
2.Was desegregation possible without Brown? How could it have
occurred?
-i do believe that desegregation would have eventually occurred
but not as soon had it not been for Brown v. Board of Education. It
could have also occurred later on in time because the matter was not
just appearing out of thin air, it was an issue that people chose to
ignore.

Rowe v. Wade

1. ON what grounds does Blackmun find that under circumstances a woman
has a constitutional right to an abortion? Is the application right?
-the application comes from the Equal Protection and Due process
clause of the 14th amendment. The application was right back then but
now the equal protection also applies to the baby at conception and
not after a certain trimester is the baby considered another separate
person from the mother.
2. What is Justice Rehnquist's rational in his dissenting opinion in
Rowe v. Wade? Do you agree? Why?
-His view is that it is no longer private so its not protected by
law. I agree because doctors and the places they work in are public
places and therefore can be regulated by the state. If they can be
regulated, then they can't be private because then it would cause a
contradiction

On Sep 19, 11:53 am, "Mr. Kelly" <mrkellyatak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Brown v. BOE and Rowe v. Wade inGoogle Docs.
> Answer two of the following questions on each doc (for a total of four
> answers).
> Respond to one other students answer for each doc (for a total of two
> responses.)
> Please post answers in response to this message, not as a new thread.
>
> Brown v. BOE
>
> 1. Under what parts of the Constitution is Brown decided?  Was the
> Constitution applied correctly in your opinion?
>
> 2. Do you agree or disagree with the Supreme Court’s final method of
> implementation of the Brown
> decision? What effects did this process ultimately have upon
> desegregation in the South?
>
> 3.  Was desegregation possible without Brown?  How could it have
> occurred?
>
> Rowe v. Wade
>
> 1. What interests doesJustice Blackmun, who wrote the Supreme Court’s
> opinion in Roe v. Wade, find the
> state has in the regulation ofabortion?  What are the implications of
> this finding beyondabortion?
>
> 2. On what grounds doesBlackmunfind that under certain circumstances
> a woman has a constitutional
> right to have anabortion?  Is this an appropriate application of this
> right?
>
> 3. How doesJustice Blackmunbalance private rights with governmental
> interests in Roe v. Wade? How would you alter this balance?  Why?
>
> 4. What is JusticeRehnquist’s rationale in his dissenting opinion in

Jerad Loyd

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1)in brown the 14th amendment is where the argument comes from but i
think its the equal protection clause spacifically, rather than the
due process clause.

2) i agree with how you see Rehnquist's arguement in Rowe v. wade
> > Roe v. Wade?  Do you agree with Blackmon orRehnquist?  Why?- Hide quoted text -
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taylor....@yahoo.com

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1)Under what parts of the Constitution is Brown decided? Was the
Constitution applied correctly in your opinion?
Brown was decided under the Equal protection clause of the 14th
amendment. I believe that the Constitution was applied correctly in
this case.

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stephani...@yahoo.com

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Brown v. BOE
1) Brown was decided under the Equal Protection Clause of the
14th Amendment. I do think the constitution was applied correctly
because it
decided that racial discrimination in public education is
unconstitutional.

2) I disagree with the Supreme Court's final method of implementation
of the Brown decision because it ended up taking forever to even reach
their goal.

Rowe v. Wade

2) Blackmun believes that it's okay for a woman to have an abortion if
her life is at risk because of carrying the baby. It's deffinately
appropriate because she could die and one death is better than two,
even if it is sad.

3) Rehnquist belives that Court jurisdiction does not apply over
abortion. I agree with Rehnquist becuase I think it should be a
mother's decison because the reasons for doing it differ.



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Christy Nguyen

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Brown v. BOE

1.Under what parts of the Constitution is Brown decided?  Was the
Constitution applied correctly in your opinion?
The equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment. It was
absolutely applied correctly. The amendment specifies that a person
cannot be discriminated against based on race, and that is exactly
what segregation did.

2.Do you agree or disagree with the Supreme Court’s final method of
implementation of the Brown decision? What effects did this process
ultimately have upon desegregation in the South?
I disagree. The Supreme Court did not set a specific date
for when schools must be desegregated; their "in a timely manner" was
not sufficient. It ultimately did not lead to desegregation, but it
was the foundation for important policies (ex. Civil Rights Act of
1964) that came later.



Rowe v. Wade

2.On what grounds does Blackmun find that under certain circumstances
a woman has a constitutional right to have an abortion?  Is this an
appropriate application of this right?
Blackmun finds this under the Due Process Clause of the 14th
Amendment. This is not an appropriate application because the clause
claims "the government must respect all of the legal rights that are
owed to a person according to the law." The right to an abortion is
not owed to a person according to law.

4.What is Justice Rehnquist’s rationale in his dissenting opinion in
Roe v. Wade?  Do you agree with Blackmon or Rehnquist?  Why?
Justice Rehnquist argues that the court has no right to
involve itself in this issue. I agree with Rehnquist because no where
in the constitution does it give the government to interfere in
matters like abortion.
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Christy Nguyen

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To Stephanie:

I agree with both your Brown v. BOE responses.

#3) While I agree, it is important to consider if mothers would even
be allowed to make the decision if it wasn't for Rowe v Wade. Without
the ruling, State governments could have made it illegal.

kdavi...@yahoo.com

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Assignment 2
Brown
1. Brown was decided based of the 14th amendments equal protection
act. Which states that no one can be discriminated on based upon race.
This was applied correctly because segregation is discrimination based
upon race.
2. I agree with the Supreme Court's final method of implementation of
the Brown decision because it is clearly stated in the equal
protection act. The decision set up the backbone that eventually led
the south to desegregation, even though it took a while.
Roe
2.Blackmun is in the interest of protecting women who could possibly
be hurt by having the baby, he thinks women should be able to have
abortion.
4. Rehnquist's opinion is that it is not protected by law due to the
fact that it is not private, this makes sense, but I disagree with
Blackmon because his case is right.
I agree with both of Christy's Brown v. BOE responses due to the fact
that it is protected by the 14th amendment, and the Supreme Court
could have done more to implement the decision.


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Hersson Cruz

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Brown v. BOE
1. Under what parts of the Constitution is Brown decided? Was the
Constitution applied correctly in your opinion?

Brown was decided under the 14th amendment of the Constitution and its
application to the Brown V. Board case was indeed correct seeing as
how the 14th amendment protects all American citizens to equality
under the law.

2.Do you agree or disagree with the Supreme Court’s final method of
implementation of the Brown decision? What effects did this process
ultimately have upon desegregation in the South?
I agree with the courts decision that schools desegregate "in a timely
manner" because the courts themselves had no ability to enforce
desegregation and trying to do so would result in major backlash from
the south. But just by making the ruling that declared segregation in
schools illegal the Supreme Court opened a window for the civil rights
movement to begin.

Roe V. Wade

2. On what grounds does Blackmun find that under certain circumstances
a woman has a constitutional right to have an abortion? Is this an
appropriate application of this right?

Blackum argues that abortions could be justified under the “due
process” guarantee of the 14th amendment. This application is
incorrectly applied because nowhere in the amendment is abortion
addressed.

4.What is Justice Rehnquist’s rationale in his dissenting opinion in
Roe v. Wade? Do you agree with Blackmon or Rehnquist? Why?
Rehnquist argues that government cannot regulate the rights to an
abortion because it is a women’s private decision. I disagree with
this because the child to be born will become part of the public with
the rights of a citizens and all citizens are guaranteed to the right
of life.


I disagree with Christy on question 2 because trying to force such a
drastic change right away would result in much bigger problems and
violence.

I agree with Stephanie on question 2 because a persons life is indeed
private until you bring another life into the equation.

Saba Zenaw

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Brown v. BOE

1) Brown was decided under the Equal Protection Clause of the
14th Amendment. I do think this amendment was applied correctly

because it decided that racial discrimination in public education is
unconstitutional.

2) I disagree with the Supreme Court's final method of implementation
of the Brown decision because it ended up taking longer than it should have.


Rowe v. Wade

2) Blackmun believes that it's okay for a woman to have an abortion if
her life is at risk because of carrying the baby. It's deffinately
appropriate because she could die and one death is better than two,
even if it is sad.

3) Rehnquist belives that Court jurisdiction does not apply over
abortion. I agree with Rehnquist becuase I think it should be a
mother's decison because the reasons for doing it differ.



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Michael Dewhurst

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BROWN
 
1. it was decided under the equal protection clause of the 14th ammendment and i believe it was applied correctly because the facilities werent equal and discrimination was occuring.
2. I disagree with their discision because when you give too much leniance on a "due date" its just going to take forever to get it done.
3. I think so because im sure somebody else would have figured out that what was happening was wrong but who knows when that would occur so it could have taken foreve.
 
ROE
 
1. He said the states could only regulate it in the second and third trimesters for the protection of prenatal life.
 
2. he finds this in the privacy acts. And yes because i think it is more of a private matter.
 
3. By giving states the ability ot regulate it in the second and third trimesters. i wouldn't alter this because i think it is relatively fair.
 
4. Rehnquist disagreed because he did not think it was a privacy matter so it should not be supported. I agree with blackmun because i believe his reasoning to make the most sense.
 
I disagree with raichel because it was decided under the equal protection clause
 
I do agree with christ on Roe because it is very sad

Saba Zenaw

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Mr. Kelly,

I am using Saba's e-mail since I am not able to get the e-mail notifications through my e-mail address.

Brown v. BOE

1. The case is decided under the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment. The constitution was applied correctly because the amendment says that a individual cannot be discriminated based on race, which applies to segregation.

2.  I disagree with the Supreme Court's decision because the court did not set a specific date for when the schools had to be desegregated. The schools did not follow the process until about years later, but it did follow up on some important policies.


Rowe v. Wade


2. The case is decided under the due process clause of the 14th amendment. The clause did not actually go with the case because the law did not specifically say that the person had the right to an abortion.


4. Rehnquist's argues in his case that the court has no right to fight against abortion. In my opinion he is right because it is a person's right to do what they want for a child, but in some cases there are things that are allowed, but for the issue of abortion there is no statement in the constitution for the court to keep a person away from having a abortion.



Erica Gallardo
Period 7th



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Brown v. BOE

1. Under what parts of the Constitution is Brown decided? Was the
Constitution applied correctly in your opinion?

Brown v. BOE was decided under the Due Process law of the Fourteen
Amendment. The court ruled it’s unconstitutional that the District of
Columbia remains segregated. Yes this was applied correctly since all
the people were not being treated equally. So had to make all the
schools desegregate.

3. Was desegregation possible without Brown? How could it have
occurred?

In my opinion I think segregation was possible since there were many
activists who wanted to desegregate. There were cases all over the
United States wanting to desegregate not just Brown v. BOE.

Rowe v. Wade

1. What interests does Justice Blackmun, who wrote the Supreme Court’s
opinion in Roe v. Wade, find the state has in the regulation of
abortion? What are the implications of
this finding beyond abortion?

The interest Blackmun held by the state regulating was protection of
prenatal life and protection of the mother's health. That woman will
not be able to abuse abortion and will only be able to be done under
an emergence.

2. On what grounds does Blackmun find that under certain circumstances
a woman has a constitutional right to have an abortion? Is this an
appropriate application of this right?

Blackmun believes it is ok for women to have an abortion if it’s a
life or death situation. If the baby is making the women have
complications its ok to have the abortion. Yes its an appropriate
decision like what if the women was not strong enough to have the baby
and was already getting really sick in her first month. She should
have the choice not to die and live another
day.

I agree with Christy number 2 on Brown v. BOE because they only said
they would desegregate schools and never did it right away. Schools
should have desegregated rate away since they have to follow Courts
decision.

I disagree with Hersson’s number 4 on Rowe v. Wade since you can’t
have an abortion after a certain amount of time has past with the baby
inside a woman’s body. When the women passes that state that’s when
the baby is actually considered a human. So until he is considered a
human he has no rights.

Itzel Okumura

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Brown v. BOE

1) Under what parts of the Constitution is Brown decided? Was the
Constitution applied correctly in your opinion?
Brown v. BOE was decided under the Equal Protection Clause stated in
the 14th Amendment. In my opinion, the Constitution was applied
perfectly because it was about time that racial minorities had the
opportunity to be treated with their deserved freedom.

2) 2. Do you agree or disagree with the Supreme Court’s final method
of 
implementation of the Brown 
decision? What effects did this
process ultimately have upon 
desegregation in the South?
I agree with the final method because the Court finally realized that
the “separate but equal” doctrine is Plessy v. Furgison wasn't
actually the right direction to be heading in. Even though they didn't
enforce it, the Court did mandate by law that the schools had to be
desegregated. Ultimately, the Brown case signaled the end of de jure
segregation in the U.S although de facto segregation was continuously
seen. This case also led up to the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the
block grants from LBJ, which impacted desegregation.

Roe v. Wade

1) What is Justice Rehnquist’s rationale in his dissenting opinion in
Roe v. Wade? Do you agree with Blackmon or Rehnquist? Why?
Justice Rehnquist gave his input into this case and he stated that a
women had the right to proceed with abortion within her first
trimester without involvement of the state. I agree with this because
no one knows the reason for which someone is doing something even
though they know it's against moral views.

2) On what grounds does Blackmun find that under certain
circumstances 
a woman has a constitutional 
right to have an
abortion? Is this an appropriate application of this 
right?
Blackmun finds it reasonable for pregnant women to abort only if it
would cause harm to the women. This included mental and physical harm.
I find it appropriate because you should be stable in order to deal
with the future issues of an infant, even though you know it's not
seen as appropriate by many others.

Itzel Okumura

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I agree with Manuel's answer in Roe v. Wade when he mentions
that if the baby is causing the women to have complications, whether
it be socially or mentally, that she would turn to abortion. It's her
body and if she knows she won't be able to handle it, she should have
that abortion as her option.

I also agree with Hersson's' point of view in Brown v. BOE. I
also feel like the South would have backlashed if the Court really had
enforced desegregation. On the bright side though, it did open doors
to many other techniques and laws.

Longcat

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Brown v. BOE

2. Do you agree or disagree with the Supreme Court’s final method of
implementation of the Brown
decision? What effects did this process ultimately have upon
desegregation in the South?

I disagree with the supreme court's final method of implementation
because they had good intentions, but left too much power and control
in the hands of those that did not want desegregation and without
specific guidelines like a deadline to when the schools had to be
desegregated there was no motivation behind desegregation.

3. Was desegregation possible without Brown? How could it have
occurred?

It would have been possible, however i feel that it would have taken a
much longer amount of time and it would have needed another landmark
case to actually push desegregation into movement.

Roe v. Wade

4. What is Justice Rehnquist’s rationale in his dissenting opinion in
Roe v. Wade? Do you agree with Blackmon or Rehnquist? Why?

Rehnquist believes that what a person does with their body should be
private business and the government should not interfere with people's
private businesses. I agree with Rehnquist because i feel that the
government should not be interfering people's personal matters because
if they do, than they would eventually start to attempt to control
those private matters.

2. On what grounds does Blackmun find that under certain
circumstances
a woman has a constitutional
right to have an abortion? Is this an appropriate application of
this
right?


Blackmun believes that if the abortion is used in order to save the
life of the mother instead of the child. I believe this is proper
application because, although abortion is sad a living adult woman who
can work and further the economy is worth more than a childless mother
or no child at all.

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Longcat

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I disagree with Hersson on his second answer in Roe v. Wade because
until that child is born, they do not have those rights.

I do agree with Hersson on his first answer in Brown v. BOE because
the ruling itself did follow the 14th amendmant exactly which was
providing equal protection despite your race.

Buck Schroeter

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1. Under what parts of the Constitution is Brown decided? Was the
Constitution applied correctly in your opinion?
The Brown decision was based on the 14th amendment's equal protection
clause, I think it was applied correctly because the government did
what it needed to do, however it was a bit of a stretch the way they
used it.
2. Do you agree or disagree with the Supreme Court’s final method of
implementation of the Brown
decision? What effects did this process ultimately have upon
desegregation in the South?
If by FINAL method you mean bribing the south to desegregate, and the
bussing method, then I partially agree, it could go either way, it got
the job done, but it didnt work like it should have, in a perfect
world it would have been unnecessary, but the end result was good.
3. Was desegregation possible without Brown? How could it have
occurred?
I do not think it would have been possible, this landmark case is the
reason why desegregation occurred, without it, I mean, eventually it
would have occurred, but it would have been out of growing population
and not enough "separate" facilities to be able to sustain that kind
of population.

1. What interests does Justice Blackmun, who wrote the Supreme
Court’s
opinion in Roe v. Wade, find the
state has in the regulation of abortion? What are the implications
of
this finding beyond abortion?
The states, he stated, were interested in two things, protecting
prenatal life and protecting the mother's health. He believed this
issue fell under the due process clause in the 14th amendment, "a
right to privacy". This could be applied to many things other than
abortion if you are going to look at it this way though, for example,
if the courts are able to extend their powers that far, then they
could very well be able to do outrageous things.

2. On what grounds does Blackmun find that under certain
circumstances
a woman has a constitutional
right to have an abortion? Is this an appropriate application of
this
right?
On the grounds that it will help to protect the mother, for example if
she could be harmed by the pregnancy, I think this is an appropriate
application of this right.
3. How does Justice Blackmun balance private rights with governmental
interests in Roe v. Wade? How would you alter this balance? Why?
He balances it by saying the mother must be in the third trimester. I
agree with his balance, or rather, I personally cant think of a better
one.
4. What is Justice Rehnquist’s rationale in his dissenting opinion in
Roe v. Wade? Do you agree with Blackmon or Rehnquist? Why?
He didnt believe in a broad interpretation of the 14th amendment, and
I personally disagree with him, this country is always changing due to
the external variables that we cant control, and thus if we have rigid
laws, they will eventually be broken by shifting. We must have wiggle
room.


I Agree with christy in her answer to the first question under the
brown v board case because she put what seems like legitimate thought
into it and it reflects my thoughts as well.
I also agree with her answer to the second question under roe v wade,
no where in the constitution did it state that you have the right to
an abortion.


I just realized I was not supposed to do all of the questions on that
list up there...
*sigh*

Bridget Gonzalez

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Brown v. BOE
1.What part of the Constitution is Brown decided? Was it applied
correctly?

The Brown v. BOE case was decided under the 14th amendment. More
specifically, the court used the eqaul protection clause to prove
their point that segregation was not constiutional. This equal
protection clause states, that all states must provide equal
protection to all individuals regardless of race, sex, etc. I do
believe that the clause was applied correctly because this case was
the stepping stone to finally having desegregated schools.


3. Was desegregation possible without Brown? How could it have
occurred?

I actually believe that desegregation was possible without Brown,
although this was a very important case. There would have been
multiple civil rights advocates that would have eventually fought to
have desegregated schools. Also, there would have been many other
supreme court cases that would have arose, and gained so much fame as
the Brown case. Someone was bound to have step up, and fight for
equality.

Roe v Wade

2. On what grounds does Blackmun find that under certain
circumstances
a woman has a constitutional
right to have an abortion? Is this an appropriate application of
this
right?

Blackmun believes that a woman could have an abortion if the pregnancy
would cause her to die during the pregnancy. He also believes only if
theres mental or physical harm. I do think that this is appropriate,
because why would you force the woman to have the baby if she would
die, and there would be no one left to take care of the child. That
would just bring the child into a terrible life. However, i still
believe that a woman should have the final say if she wants to have
the baby or not, becuase it's her body.

4. What is Justice Rehnquist’s rationale in his dissenting opinion in
Roe v. Wade? Do you agree with Blackmon or Rehnquist? Why?

His rationale is that the court has no right to interfere in a case
involving the private rights of a woman. I agree with Rehnquist
because the court shouldn't be involved in making the decision of
whether a woman has the right to an abortion. It's the mothers body
and she will have to be the one taking care of the child, so why
should she have a child if she might not be able to care for it.
Overall Blackmon's view was not rational.


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Bridget Gonzalez

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I agree with Herasson's #2 answer about Brown v. Board because if the
court forced schools to immediately desegregate then there would have
been a lot of violence and riots from people in the south.

I agree with Raichal's #1 answer about Roe. V. Wade, she explains her
reasoning and discusses the 14th amendment.

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Grace Ivie

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Brown v. BOE
1) The case was decided on the 14th amendment Equal Protection Clause
and Due Process clause. The constitution was applied correctly
because the fourteenth amendment emphasizes that laws must provide
equal protection to all people. In my opinion, this can also be
interpreted to mean that all people must be seen as equal under the
law; which doesn't justify having segregated schools.

2) I do not agree with the supreme courts final method of
implementation of the Brown case. Busing is unnecessary because it
just made things harder for everyone involved. Instead of being able
to go to a school close by, everyone was forced to go to a school
further away in the effort to desegregate schools. In addition to
busing, schools were bribed with money to desegregate in the south. I
don't think that bribing should have been necessary to desegregate,
and another method should have been used. In effect, a lot of schools
desegregated; but some decided to not take the grant money.

Roe v. Wade
1) The states sole purposes in regulating abortions is to keep the
women healthy and alive, and also to perform abortions only if there
is a good reason. Abortions must be done in the first trimester
because that is when it is safe for the woman getting the abortion.
When fundamental rights in the picture, regulation limiting the right
to an abortion is okay only by a compelling state interest, and it
must be legitimate. If something is threatening the state interest,
the state can limit regulation of laws if it is a legitimate threat.
2) Blackmun finds that under certain circumstances, a woman has a
right to an abortion. His reasoning behind this is because of the Due
Process Clause and the Reservation of Rights to the people. He uses
the words that the woman has a "personal liberty", which gives her the
right to privacy; and if that isn't good enough proof then the
Reservation of Rights to the people is broad enough to encompass
abortion rights. I think that the application in the opinion of
Blackmun is a little far stretched. I don't think that the Due
Process Clause was meant to be used in that way according to the way
the constitution was originally written.


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Grace Ivie

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I agree with Hersson Cruz's answer to question 1 for Brown v. BOE

I agree with Christy Nguyen's answer to question two for Rowe v.
Wade. She backed up her answer with facts and explained the answer
short but in a good way.

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Noamy Lopez

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Brown v. BOE

1. Under what parts of the Constitution is Brown decided? Was the
Constitution applied correctly in your opinion?
Brown was ruled of the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth
Amendment of the United States Constitution. The Constitution was not
applied right because there were many schools that refused to stop
segregation. This decision was overturned by the Plessy v. Ferguson
decision of 1896 which allowed state-sponsored segregation.

2. Do you agree or disagree with the Supreme Court’s final method of
implementation of the Brown decision? What effects did this process
ultimately have upon desegregation in the South?
I do agree with the Supreme Court's final method because it was
probably the only way schools were going to treat all student races
equally, or close to. This ruling prepared the way for integration and
the civil rights movement.

Roe v. Wade

2. On what grounds does Blackmun find that under certain circumstances
a woman has a constitutional right to have an abortion? Is this an
appropriate application of this right?
Blackmun finds it ok for a woman to have abortion under the “due
process” clause which is protected by the 14th amendment. This is not
an appropriate application of this right because the amendment does
not say anything about the abortion situation.

4. What is Justice Rehnquist’s rationale in his dissenting opinion in
Roe v. Wade? Do you agree with Blackmon or Rehnquist? Why?
Rehnquist's rational in his opinion is that the court can't do
anything about one's decision of abortion. I do not agree with
Rehnquist because no one should be given the right to kill a miniature
human.

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Noamy Lopez

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I agree with Raichal in both of her Brown responses in that the
decision was not applied right because not everyone used it, and
desegregation could have also happened later but not that soon as with
Brown.

I also agree with Raichal's Rowe v Wade responses because the
application of the Equal Protection and Due process clause does not
apply to abortion, and that public clinics can be regulated by the
State because they are held by the State.

On Sep 19, 10:51 pm, Raichal <Solstice...@yahoo.com> wrote:

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Brown v. BOE
1. Under what parts of the Constitution is Brown decided? Was the
Constitution applied correctly in your opinion?
Brown v. Board was decided under the Equal Protections Clause of the
14th Amendment. The Constitution was applied correctly.

3. Was desegregation possible without Brown? How could it have
occurred?
Desegregation would not be possible without this court case because
it over turned Plessy v. Ferguson, therefore taking away state
sponsored segregation.

Rowe v. Wade
2. On what grounds does Blackmun find that under certain circumstances
a woman has a constitutional right to have an abortion? Is this an
appropriate application of this right?
Blackmun thinks it is ok for women to have an abortion if she is in
danger. I think this is an unfortunate, but an appropriate application
of this right.

4. What is Justice Rehnquist’s rationale in his dissenting opinion in
Roe v. Wade? Do you agree with Blackmon or Rehnquist? Why?
Rehnquist argues that the courts have no right to put restrictions on
abortion because it is their personal, private business. I agree with
him because the fetus is a part of the mother and therefore should
receive all the rights of the mother. The only person that should be
able to interfere with that baby is the mother.

I disagree with Grace Ivie because although bussing was a major
inconvenience, the neighborhoods back then were also segregated so if
the children went to the schools they lived close to, they would have
stayed segregated.

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Brown v. BOE
1. Under what parts of the Constitution is Brown decided? Was the
Constitution applied correctly in your opinion?
It was decided under the 14th amendment mainly the due process
clause, it was applied correctly because segregation is discrimination
against race and that is clearly unconstitutional.

2. Do you agree or disagree with the Supreme Court’s final method of
implementation of the Brown
decision? What effects did this process ultimately have upon
desegregation in the South?
i agree with the supreme courts decision because although
desegregation happened far later, it still happened, so in the long
run it was worth it.

3. Was desegregation possible without Brown? How could it have
occurred?
i dont think desegregation would have happened at around the same time
as Brown, but far later as the civil rights movement was gaining
strength.it could have occured in the same way if it was someone who
had the same problem.


Rowe v. Wade
1. What interests does Justice Blackmun, who wrote the Supreme
Court’s
opinion in Roe v. Wade, find the
state has in the regulation of abortion? What are the implications
of
this finding beyond abortion?
This was applied by the 14th amendment & Due process and equal
protection clauses.

2. On what grounds does Blackmun find that under certain
circumstances
a woman has a constitutional
right to have an abortion? Is this an appropriate application of
this
right?
it only applies to the woman before the baby when it reaches a certain
age in the mother, then the baby is an individual on its own. i think
it is an appropriate application of this

Brandon Walters

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1. Under what parts of the Constitution is Brown decided?  Was the
Constitution applied correctly in your opinion?

Brown was decided under the "Due process" clause of the 14th
amendment. I do think that it was applied correctly.

2. Do you agree or disagree with the Supreme Court’s final method of
implementation of the Brown
decision? What effects did this process ultimately have upon
desegregation in the South?

I disagree becuase the final decision did not have a set date in
which the desegregation had to be finalized therefore it really had no
effect on desegregation since nobody implied it because there was no
set date in which it had to be done.


Rowe v. Wade

1. What interests does Justice Blackmun, who wrote the Supreme Court’s
opinion in Roe v. Wade, find the
state has in the regulation of abortion?  What are the implications
of
this finding beyond abortion?

2. On what grounds does Blackmun find that under certain
circumstances
a woman has a constitutional
right to have an abortion?  Is this an appropriate application of
this
right?

Blackmun says that if the there is a potential that the woman might
be harmed due to the baby, it is constitutional for her to have an
abortion and I think that it is the appropriate application of the
right.

4. What is Justice Rehnquist’s rationale in his dissenting opinion in
Roe v. Wade?  Do you agree with Blackmon or Rehnquist?  Why?

Rehnquist says that the court has no say in whether a woman can havae
an abortion or not. I agree with Regnquist because the court should
not be able to decide personal matters such as abortion.

I agree with Staphanie's number 2 because it did end up taking
forever for desegregation to occur because the court did not set a
specific deadline.

I disagree with Hersson's number 4 because even though the baby will
become a citizen and have the rights of a citizen, it is not a citizen
at the time of abortion therefore it doesnt have any rights.

Adrian Gonzales

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Brown
1. Under what parts of the Constitution is Brown decided? Was the
Constitution applied correctly in your opinion?
• The Brown decision was based on the 14th amendment's equal
protection
clause. I think that the Constitution applied it correctly (can’t be
discriminated because of race = segregation)

2. Do you agree or disagree with the Supreme Court’s final method of
implementation of the Brown
decision? What effects did this process ultimately have upon
desegregation in the South?

• I agree with the final method of implementation of the Brown
decision, because I believe that they did what they could and got it
done in a timely manner with respect to the stubborn south that they
were dealing with. While busing and bribing the south weren’t the best
methods they did inevitably “desegregate” the south.

Roe

On what grounds does Blackmun find that under certain circumstances
a woman has a constitutional right to have an abortion? Is this an
appropriate application of this right?

• Under the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment.
• Not an appropriate application because the due process clause says
that it must respect all legal rights that are owed to an individual,
and abortion is not a legal right that is owed to an individual.

What is Justice Rehnquist’s rationale in his dissenting opinion in
Roe v. Wade? Do you agree with Blackmon or Rehnquist? Why?

• The court has no right to interject itself in this issue
• I believe with Rehnquist because the constitution does not have any
information concerning the government arbitrarily deciding on
abortion.

I agree with Christy on her answer for Brown because it parallels to
what I think on that subject. I also agree with her second answer for
Roe, because it does NOT state anything about abortions in the
Constitution.

roberto talamas

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Brown V Board Of Education

1.      Under what parts of the Constitution is Brown decided?  Was
the
Constitution applied correctly in your opinion?
Brown was decided under the equal protection cluase of the 14th
amendment.
Yes I think the Constitution was applied correctly in this case
2. Do you agree or disagree with the Supreme Court’s final method of
implementation of the Brown
decision? What effects did this process ultimately have upon
desegregation in the South?
I diagree with the Supreme Courts's method because even though they
had good intentions, the Supreme Court left power to those who did not
want
disegregation.

Rowe v. Wade

2. On what grounds does Blackmun find that under certain
circumstances
a woman has a constitutional
right to have an abortion? Is this an appropriate application of
this
right?
Blackmun found that if the mother's health is at risk becuase of the
baby it is
constitutional to have an abortion. I think this is appropiate because
is better that
only one die instead of both

3. How does Justice Blackmun balance private rights with governmental
interests in Roe v. Wade? How would you alter this balance? Why?
Blackmun balances the right by saying that abortion can be regulated
during the secon and third trimester. I personaly agree with this
balance








Jordan GB

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Jordan Garcia Belman
Roe V Wade:
1. What interests does Justice Blackmun, who wrote the Supreme Court’s
opinion in Roe v. Wade, find the
state has in the regulation of abortion?  What are the implications of
this finding beyond abortion?
     Justice Blackmun comes to the conclusion that government can interfere in the private rights of a pregnant woman if her health is at stake. He separates her pregnancy in three trimesters. And based on these three trimesters is how the government could intervene. But beyond abortion, this idea produces lots of implications because there is great debate on whether or not a fetus is considered a living human or not.
2. On what grounds does Blackmun find that under certain circumstances
a woman has a constitutional
right to have an abortion?  Is this an appropriate application of this
right?
     Blackmun says that women have a constitutional right to have an abortion if having the baby equals a distressful life and future. But they cannot just choose to have an abortion whenever they want. Yes this is a correct application because it gives the woman a little bit of freedom
Response to other student
I agree with Roberto about the trimester division because it sets things in order and produces less debate.
Brown V Board of Edu. of Topeka
1. Under what parts of the Constitution is Brown decided?  Was the
Constitution applied correctly in your opinion?
     Brown was decided under the 14th ammendment equal protection part of the constitution. I think it was decided correctly because it was clear that "separate but equal" was not functioning the way everybody thought. It was clear that both races weren't getting "equal" education.
3.  Was desegregation possible without Brown?  How could it have
occurred?
     I dont' think that desegregation was possible without Brown because it was one of the first steps to stopping segregation. It kind of started the path that would later have followers. But if Brown never happened, I think that desegregation would have happened a lot later because there would have been nothing off which others could base their new beliefs off of.
Response to other student
I agree with Roberto when he says that the Constitution was applied correctly in this case because it is clear in the 14th ammendment that you cannot discriminate based on race.

carolina morris

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Brown V. BOE
1. Brown decision was based on the 14th amendment equal protections clause. I think it was applied correctly because the clause says that segregation was unconstitutional. 

3. I think it would be possible without Brown because there would have eventually been someone fighting for desegregation of school and also many cases wouldve came to the supreme court throughout time.

ROE V WADE
 2. Blackmun believes its okay for women to have abortions if their life is at risk because of carrying the baby and its also protecting her health.

4. Rehnquist's opinion is that the courts dont have the right to put restrictions on abortion because its their private life and the mother should be able to decide what she wants. I agree because women should have the right to choose what theyd like to choose. Its really dependent on how they feel about the whole situation.  


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Subject: Assignment #2
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Date: Monday, September 19, 2011, 11:53 AM

Brown v. BOE and Rowe v. Wade in Google Docs.

Answer two of the following questions on each doc (for a total of four
answers).
Respond to one other students answer for each doc (for a total of two
responses.)
Please post answers in response to this message, not as a new thread.

Brown v. BOE

1. Under what parts of the Constitution is Brown decided?  Was the
Constitution applied correctly in your opinion?

2. Do you agree or disagree with the Supreme Court’s final method of
implementation of the Brown
decision? What effects did this process ultimately have upon
desegregation in the South?

3.  Was desegregation possible without Brown?  How could it have
occurred?

Rowe v. Wade


1. What interests does Justice Blackmun, who wrote the Supreme Court’s
opinion in Roe v. Wade, find the
state has in the regulation of abortion?  What are the implications of
this finding beyond abortion?

2. On what grounds does Blackmun find that under certain circumstances
a woman has a constitutional
right to have an abortion?  Is this an appropriate application of this
right?

3. How does Justice Blackmun balance private rights with governmental
interests in Roe v. Wade? How would you alter this balance?  Why?

4. What is Justice Rehnquist’s rationale in his dissenting opinion in

jacobw...@yahoo.com

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Brown v. BOE
1. Under what parts of the Constitution is Brown decided?  Was the
Constitution applied correctly in your opinion?
It was decided under the 14th amendment. I believe it was
applied correctly because segregation deprived people from "life,
liberty, and property".

3.  Was desegregation possible without Brown?  How could it have
occurred?
I do not believe it was possible without Brown due to the fact that
desegregation required a constitutional basis. It might have happened
I suppose, if they found a way to use the Elastic Clause, or
manipulate Innerstate Commerce.

Rowe v. Wade

2. On what grounds does Blackmun find that under certain
circumstances
a woman has a constitutional
right to have an abortion?  Is this an appropriate application of
this
right?
Blackmun believed it to be ok if the woman's life was in danger.
This would be ok, as it would at least be able to save one person's
life.

4. What is Justice Rehnquist’s rationale in his dissenting opinion in
Roe v. Wade?  Do you agree with Blackmon or Rehnquist?  Why?
Rehnquist believes the government has no right to interfere with
abortion, however I dissagree as the Bill of Rights was based off of
Natural rights. Life, Liberty, and Property.

I agree with Christy on 2
I agree with Stephanie on 2

Cameron hall

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Brown v. BOE
1.

- Brown was decided under the Equal Protection Clause of the
14th Amendment. I think that the constitution was use correctly
because it proved that racial discrimination is wrong in school.

2.

- I disagree with the Supreme Court's final method of implementation
of the Brown decision since it took a long time for them to finially
make a decision on it. however it did allow the wheels to turn for
civil rights act.


Rowe v. Wade


2.

- blackmuns idea that if the mothers life was at risk then she should
get a abortion. It's a perplexing subject because you can never trully
know if the mothers life is at risk but it is better to save 1 then
lose 2 lifes.

3.

- Rehnquist idea is that Court jurisdiction does not rule over
abortion. I agree with him because its a mothers decision but its
still a upsetting situation though because you dont know the mothers
true intentions for the abortion.

On Sep 19, 11:53 am, "Mr. Kelly" <mrkellyatak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Brown v. BOE and Rowe v. Wade in Google Docs.
> Answer two of the following questions on each doc (for a total of four
> answers).
> Respond to one other students answer for each doc (for a total of two
> responses.)
> Please post answers in response to this message, not as a new thread.
>
> Brown v. BOE
>
> 1. Under what parts of the Constitution is Brown decided?  Was the
> Constitution applied correctly in your opinion?
>
> 2. Do you agree or disagree with the Supreme Court’s final method of
> implementation of the Brown
> decision? What effects did this process ultimately have upon
> desegregation in the South?
>
> 3.  Was desegregation possible without Brown?  How could it have
> occurred?
>
> Rowe v. Wade
>
> 1. What interests does Justice Blackmun, who wrote the Supreme Court’s
> opinion in Roe v. Wade, find the
> state has in the regulation of abortion?  What are the implications of
> this finding beyond abortion?
>
> 2. On what grounds does Blackmun find that under certain circumstances
> a woman has a constitutional
> right to have an abortion?  Is this an appropriate application of this
> right?
>
> 3. How does Justice Blackmun balance private rights with governmental
> interests in Roe v. Wade? How would you alter this balance?  Why?
>

Cameron hall

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i agree with stephanie on number #2 BROWN .v BOE

and i agree with Saba on number #2 on Rowe v. Wade.
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