What is the status of Amara?

[werner]

Have been using Amara 1 for some time now and really been happy with it and always got help when I got into trouble.

Some time ago I started a major rewrite of my stuff and at the same time moving to to Python 2.7 and prepare for 3.x (probably next year as wxPython is still not there yet too).

Would like to attack the code where I use XML which is just about exclusively using "from amara import binderytools".

Thought it is time to switch to Amara 2.  But I see it is still in Alpha and the code repo has not had an update for a bit.

So, I wonder what to do?

Werner

P.S.
I am mainly on Windows, but one of the goals of updating my stuff is to make a move to *nix and Mac a bit easier.

[Luis Miguel Morillas]

El día 20 de abril de 2012 13:55, werner <werner...@sfr.fr> escribió:
> Have been using Amara 1 for some time now and really been happy with it and
> always got help when I got into trouble.
>
> Some time ago I started a major rewrite of my stuff and at the same time
> moving to to Python 2.7 and prepare for 3.x (probably next year as wxPython
> is still not there yet too).
>

Amara 2.x is stable, but there are no plans to migrate to python 3.x

> Would like to attack the code where I use XML which is just about
> exclusively using "from amara import binderytools".
>
> Thought it is time to switch to Amara 2.  But I see it is still in Alpha and
> the code repo has not had an update for a bit.
>

The code is very stable and code is updated only when some important
issue is reported.

> So, I wonder what to do?
>

Install amara [1] [2] and test it :) Here you can find the doc about
Amara 2 (now Amara) http://wiki.xml3k.org/Amara

And ask us if something goes wrong.

[1] $ pip install -i http://pypi.zepheira.com/releases/index Amara
[2] We have got precompiled installers for windows
http://wiki.xml3k.org/Amara/Windows

Regards,

-- luismiguel

> Werner
>
> P.S.
> I am mainly on Windows, but one of the goals of updating my stuff is to make
> a move to *nix and Mac a bit easier.
>
>

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[Uche Ogbuji]

Wener, what Luis said. I think Amara 2 is at least as stable as Amara 1 ever was, and a bit more so in some areas. That said I do admit that I haven't had as much time to work on it in the past year as I'd like. That said I've been *using* it a great deal, on critical projects as well, so I think you can trust it to a reasonable extent.

I have major plans for the future of Amara/Akara as soon as things quiet down a bit with some of our Zepheira projects. Hopefully that will be before too long.

Thanks.

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[Uche Ogbuji]

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Uche Ogbuji <uc...@ogbuji.net> wrote:

Wener, what Luis said. I think Amara 2 is at least as stable as Amara 1 ever

Aargh! "Werner." Sorry.

[Sylvain Hellegouarch]

Hi Luis,

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Luis Miguel Morillas <mori...@gmail.com> wrote:

The code is very stable and code is updated only when some important
issue is reported.

If the code is stable, it would do good to move it from alpha status (I assume that's what the 'a' means in the package's name). 

Also, clarifying the doc would be a great asset, as it stands, I've lost track of how Amara2 actually works :/

 

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[Uche Ogbuji]

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Sylvain Hellegouarch <s...@defuze.org> wrote:

Hi Luis,

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Luis Miguel Morillas <mori...@gmail.com> wrote:

The code is very stable and code is updated only when some important
issue is reported.

If the code is stable, it would do good to move it from alpha status (I assume that's what the 'a' means in the package's name). 

Also, clarifying the doc would be a great asset, as it stands, I've lost track of how Amara2 actually works :/

How is this?

http://xml3k.org/Amara/Tutorial

If that's what you're looking for, then I guess we just need to bundle that into the package doc directory.

[Luis Miguel Morillas]

El día 20 de abril de 2012 19:56, Sylvain Hellegouarch <s...@defuze.org> escribió:
> Hi Luis,
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Luis Miguel Morillas <mori...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> The code is very stable and code is updated only when some important
>> issue is reported.
>>
>
> If the code is stable, it would do good to move it from alpha status (I
> assume that's what the 'a' means in the package's name).

I agree. I remember we decided to maintain the alpha until the test
suite was finished. I wanted to work on this suite, but had no time
:-(

> Also, clarifying the doc would be a great asset, as it stands, I've lost
> track of how Amara2 actually works :/
>

Sure we must improve docs too. But maybe it's the moment to think
about the future of Amara / Akara. Werner is right that the project
not seems to be alive in the last months. On the other hand there are
a lot of changes and possibilities in the world of data extraction
(scraping, big data, ... ) and maybe it could be a chance for amara.

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[Sylvain Hellegouarch]

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Luis Miguel Morillas <mori...@gmail.com> wrote:

El día 20 de abril de 2012 19:56, Sylvain Hellegouarch <s...@defuze.org> escribió:

> Hi Luis,
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Luis Miguel Morillas <mori...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> The code is very stable and code is updated only when some important
>> issue is reported.
>>
>
> If the code is stable, it would do good to move it from alpha status (I
> assume that's what the 'a' means in the package's name).

I agree. I remember we decided to maintain the alpha until the test
suite was finished. I wanted to work on this suite, but had no time
:-(

> Also, clarifying the doc would be a great asset, as it stands, I've lost
> track of how Amara2 actually works :/
>

Sure we must improve docs too. But maybe it's the moment to think
about the future of Amara / Akara. Werner is right that the project
not seems to be alive in the last months. On the other hand there are
a lot of changes and possibilities in the world of data extraction
(scraping, big data, ... ) and maybe it could be a chance for amara.

I apogise if my tone sounded slightly harsh, it wasn't mean to be. I agree though that project might require some cleanup if only so that it's easier to point at it and say "it's better than XYZ" without getting a "meh... it's alpha" (which it's not in all fairness). 

[Luis Miguel Morillas]

No, Sylvain, I like your opinion and I agree with you :) . In the
last years I gave more than three talks about scraping with amara and
nobody's heard about amara :-(

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