Beta Bans and Warnings

[TylerS1066]

I have been issuing a few punishments on beta:

1. BJ has a 1 week ban for refusing to remove his pillars, then swearing at me.
2. Maker's merchantman has been impounded for 1 day (released on may 2nd) for blocking traffic.

[BaccaYarro]

After discussing this, I understand it must have been frustrating to be blindsided by this new rule without prior warning. That is on me, since I told the admins about this before publishing the rules here. I apologize, in the future I will plan better.

However, that being said, swearing up a storm at an Admin was not very bright. If BJ would be willing to apologize to the admin, I believe a shorter sentance of a few days would be appropriate.

[B. Jones]

ok tyler im sick of u but u tped me without telling me not just that u would not give me an axe to break wood

[B. Jones]

not just that i was real pissed that day i was really hungry dont mess with me when i havent had food u could have asked to tp and u could have maybe given me an axe 

[BaccaYarro]

"ok tyler im sick of u" is kind of the opposite of an apology. Oh well, I tried. 

[Will Barclay]

I thought BJ was banned on request? Therefore I banned his alternate account with the same IP if he is not in fact I can pardon his second account.

[TylerS1066]

His alt has been removed from the beta whitelist.

[Mad_Eye_Marc]

B. Jones Tyler doesn't have to give u a warning for the tp it doesn't matter weather or not ur ship is in a bad position or a dangerous and he doesnt have to give u an axe one but he can only tp u if u have too many pillers out and he has to tp u back where u were when ur done im not sure if he did any of that but im sure he did

[BaccaYarro]

Drago was banned for 3 days for abusing a known glitch to loot someones ship. The items will be returned, and their value deducted from Drago's inventory or money if possible. 

[BaccaYarro]

It turns out this may not actually have been the case. It may have been a poorly designed lock. It looks like the designers intent was that the side doors be left open, granting access to the bridge, but intruders be prevented from getting further in by a wood log column. If so, that doesn't work very well. Drago has now been unbanned.

I don't feel that bad about the ban, though, because Drago still put dirt all over the RNShipyards docks and did not clean it up. So, Drago recieved a short ban for that, and should immediately clean up his dirt mess in protected airspace. We should also have a conversation about combat logging in the survival rules thread.

[Drago]

That was not the ship i stole from. I also built on dirt that was already there.

[Drago]

i fixed the dirt dock that Tyler and or Dyst built at EB. Do not expect me to take down there mess. I fixed what i broke.

[Drago]

Also maker has already replace the monetary value of what i stole. 

[Jack Castle]

Drago has been Temp Banned for 7 days for Combat Logging, and being disrespectful toward staff when confronted.
 Combat logging being defined as logging off to avoid death bye or the event of, combat.

[BaccaYarro]

I'm afraid I have to disagree with this definition of Combat Logging as being too vague. Arguably every time you log off it is to avoid death. In my opinion, Combat Logging has to be just that, logging off during the combat itself. IE: after combat has started. Also, I think the punishment for combat logging should be something in-game, not banning. One possibility is killing the affected character. That seems the most fair to me, because:

1. Some players will disconnect during combat due to no fault of their own because of the extra connection stress caused by combat
2. If players disconnect to avoid death, and they know that will cause their death anyway, then this will discourage that behavior

As soon as I have time, I will see about setting up a plugin to handle this.

Now, Combat Logging aside, as I have said before shooting your mouth off and swearing at an Admin is never a good idea. But in my opinion 7 days may be a bit long for that. Perhaps if Drago were to apologize to the admin involved, a shorter sentence may be appropriate.

[Drago]

Well i wasn't meaning to swear at Jack. I was swearing at the situation. You can check the logs. I am sorry for 2 things, First getting mad at Jack. And second for swearing. I really want to get on survival and help test the things that need to be tested.

[Geoffry Holland]

I hereby condemn ChapterDeath to death by hanging in the Zanthar town hall

(he attacked me, i asked him not to and he didn't stop)

SO prepare to have your butt kicked!

[Geoffry Holland]

oh yah

i got banned for 3 days.

cuz i used fly hacks

i hope you will be glad to know i am removing all hack related mods.

because they lag my mc

so yah

hope your glad!

i removed them and i am now clean

never gonna hack again

hope your happy

P.S. how many people actually admit they used hacks?

just wondering

[TylerS1066]

So we extended your ban for a week, a compromise to what snow wanted to do.

His ban was for noclipping and fly hacks.

Attacking you is allowed, hacking is not tolerated.  This ban may be extended more.

[Geoffry Holland]

Ok fly i did do. but the no clip part did not happen. i flew over to deaths ship on top. broke a block and fell through.

the no clip may have been visual glitch as i broke the block maybe i fell through on my end, but on his end the block hadn't been broken yet, this may have been the case.

but yes i did fly but i didn't noclipto my best knowledge. this is like the 24k tnt in the end. i accept my punishment and do what i can to better myself.

[Geoffry Holland]

I was also wondering if on the final day of beta before public release. Could my ban be lifted for this one day? This is something i feel i should be a part of becausevi have helped out with the server, in its beta stages. So it would be appreciated if you did, but if you don't want to thats fine to. Just letting you know i would like to be on the server for the final day before public release. Thx.

P.S i hate auto correct

[Geoffry Holland]

That is, of course if my ban lasts that long.
I am sorry for my rudeness if there was any and will not react as violently as i did.
I seem to have problems with people attacking my merchant ships.
For example: someone attacks a trade convoy of mine with a single fighter. I go to them with a whole battle fleet.
So i hate people attacking my unarmed merchantman, but i deserved it. And will not to resort to the use of hacks to stop an attack.
And not lose my temper, if i get mad i'll just log off and go to a different server until i calm down. Haven't tried it yet but i will next. Time i'm attacked and i am about to go full rage.

[BaccaYarro]

Sorry, I have zero tolerance for hackers. This should be a perma ban in my opinion. The only thing that might dissuade me is if the person came forward without being caught. IE: did something, realized he shouldn't have, and turned themselves in.

Was Geoffry caught, or did he come forward freely?

Hackers will not always be caught, and in this server they will completely destroy the integrity of the game. Therefore the ones that are caught must be dealt with harshly. Everyone must understand that hacking on the server will result in a permanent ban.

[ConceptEagle]

I am not exactly sure if this means he was caught or if he turned himself in. ChapterDeath exclaimed the flying in global chat before Darkspike792 admitted it, but he did immediately after and asked for a punishment and promised to refrain.

[Will Barclay]

Yeah this isn't a very clear cut case because he admited immediately and thought it was sorta ok because he was on the beta and just messing about. Therefore I suggest a temp ban of what you see fit because he didn't do any damage and it obviously didn't make him any more money. Personally I am rather lenient when it comes to permanent bans because it doesn't give the player an opertunity to correct there actions. I only really see them fit for griefers and people who deliberately do things to wreck the server.

[TylerS1066]

Geoffry did come out and admit he was hacking (after Death yelled that he was).

[BaccaYarro]

All right, well I guess that's something. Let's go with the original duration set forth by Tyler.

Although I do feel that this sort of thing must be taken very seriously when survival is officially opened. Because a single ship may represent hundreds of hours of investment, and losing a ship that should have been safe could ruin a player for good.

[BaccaYarro]

Drago's ban was lifted, I should have said something sooner, I apologize.

[Drago]

Thank you bacca

[BaccaYarro]

ScratchyErik2002 was found to be using a flying hack. He has been banned, de-whitelisted, ip-banned, etc. I really can't stand hackers.

[Head Admin: TylerS1066]

He was also using a noclip hack to get into locked ships, I wish we could double ban.

[BaccaYarro]

We don't know that for absolute certain. When I was observing him, he would steal ships that were already unlocked. 

[Head Admin: TylerS1066]

Darkspike has been permanently banned for using hacks (again).

He was running on the water faster than you can fly in spectator mode and jumping abnormally high.

So why did you have speed and jump boost hacks?

[Mad_Eye_Marc]

id say like the /speed command thath has been removed and what people call the "Jesus" hack

IDK what their called

[BaccaYarro]

I doubt very much you really believed it would be OK to use a different hack. I will be deleting your various ridiculous protests. But just for the record, let us be clear here: ANY client side modification or hack that changes your in game characters performance or abilities is a hack. You will be banned, IP-banned, etc, permanently and without hesitation. Also, this is not just against the policy of this server, this is a violation of the Terms of Service you agreed to when you purchased Minecraft. Anyone who thinks that is OK is deluding themselves.

This experience has taught me that hackers do not change. So let this be a warning: no more second chances.

[Cmdr_Shadow]

I'd like to say that it took bacca a very long time to help build the system of the server. You broke it. He has every right to have you gone for using illegal hacks on something he has worked hard on. Sorry to see you go erik but all things come to an end at one time. Farewell was to be Destria Pilot. And also since voxelmap is a mod i wont get banned for that will I?

[MCGamingM]

Wait Using A MC Glitch Is A Ban able offense?! *sigh* very well can ye give all my money to block.

[BaccaYarro]

Correct. Squinkler has been banned for 1 month for abusing a minecraft glitch to take command of another persons ship within protected airspace through a wall. 

This is described in rule 3 under "Protected Airspace" - "Do not abuse minecraft glitches, hack, or loopholes" and somewhat under rule 2 "Protected Airspace is meant to be just that, protected". I feel it was spelled out pretty clearly.

EDIT: and no, we do not allow banned players to give their money to others

[MCGamingM]

Thank God Its Not Perm. I Accept The Punishment. Won't Get Angry About It.