Re: [agraharam2010] Some Concerns

[SIVA VENKAT]

Dear Members,

I have not seen any mails for quite sometime.  I am also at fault for not sending any.  I have not been keeping good health and it has taken sometime for me to recover.  But I have been thinking about our plans and have shared a few points with Mr Giri.  Anyway, I would like each one of us to answer the following questions?

- Can we do this ?  (i.e., make this Agraharam happen)
- Can we bring a trust among our community members ?
- Will people stand by their commitment and make the payments on time ?
- Will people also occupy the agrharam ?

This may sound like we are starting from square one again. The fact is, we are still at Square One. I too have not stuck to my commitment of making the Palakkad visit. Possibly I have developed cold feet ....being sick is sometimes depressing.

We all need motivation.
So please send in your mails with your thoughts.

Regards
Siva, V

--- On Fri, 4/12/09, Venkita Giri <rvgir...@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Venkita Giri <rvgir...@gmail.com>
> Subject: [agraharam2010] Agent details
> To: agraha...@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, 4 December, 2009, 1:17 PM
>
> Dear Dr Siva,
>
> During my last visit to Palakkadu, I was in touch with a
> Brahmin agent
> named Ayyappaswamy. What he showed then was not suitable
> for our
> purpose. I think he has now managed to find a place in
> Kottayi near
> Chembai. You may contact him for further info. His mobile
> number is
> 09446148339. He has another 2 acre property to show us near
> Kavassery.
>
> I think the land on way Chammanampathy could be inspected
> later along
> with other members also if you are not able to find a
> better one
> during this trip. The search for land is time consuming.
> If, how ever,
>  you have enough time to spare, you may contact Subramoni
> 09847008048.
> He is in Ernakulam. You can get the contact number of his
> local agent
> to inspect that land.
>
> Regards,
>
> R V Giri
>

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[subramanian raman]

Making Agraharam is good to our community. Now only brahmins are backward. This Agraharam will start bringing unity amongst our community. Making trust one of the ways to command. But only elder or retired hands will be staying. Persons retired withe the financial help (may be) of their sons or daughters will stand by their commitment. Staying permanently or temporarily or staying away depends upon their circumstances. All the persons who are willing to purchase the plot are thingking to stay there.   Subramanian R --- On Thu, 17/12/09, SIVA VENKAT <siva...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

[Sreenivasan R]

The four pointed questions are as follows:

 

Can we do this ?  (i.e., make this Agraharam happen)
- Can we bring a trust among our community members ?
- Will people stand by their commitment and make the payments on time ?
- Will people also occupy the agrharam ?

 

Taking one by one

The answer to the first one is:

 

We can definitely do this.The way Mr.Giri is proceeding I am certain that the project will be successful.He is ensuring each and every aspect , not racing to take any quick decisions and awaits for response from the group members and takes into consideration.But any such project has to be supported by the entire group.There may be difference of opinion and personal likes and dislikes may also sometimes come to the fore as  crippling factors.But all these can be ironed out by dialogues and discussion.

 

But I want to make a point very clear that If one's requirements are not to be achieved through such group efforts they must quit at the beginning itself without making any ruckous.

 

2. Can we bring a trust among our community members ?

 

Initially every one will approach such proposals with a negativity within.It is all the more perfect to start with.After your self analysis change your opinion to the positive.The progress made will be phenomenon.Your point is well taken.It takes time.The time fixed for the project to take shape may be less.But once it takes its initial form the progress will be faster.

 

3. Will people stand by their commitment and make the payments on time ?
It is very difficult to answer this question.One should understand and assess the finances before embarking upon leaving aside the unexpected.

 

4. Will people also occupy the agrharam ?

The toughest one. Man proposes and God disposes.But IF everything goes on well there will be futuristic Agraharam in place.Let us all hope for the best.

 

Sreenivasan.R

A well wisher and a member of the group who in turn has created interest in two more members.I have given them the email addresses by forwarding the mails to them also.

 

2009/12/18 subramanian raman <keechu...@yahoo.co.in>

[SIVA VENKAT]

Dear Members,

I have a suggestion.

Now that we have the Christmas holidays coming up, possibly all of us could have a meeting at Palakkad. This will help us to understand each other better, bring in trust and commitment.

Best Regards & Happy Holidays
Siva, V

--- On Sat, 19/12/09, Sreenivasan R <sreeniv...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Sreenivasan R]

Dear Members,

 

I am planning to reach Thrissur on 16th Jan 2010 and proceed to Palakkad on 17th.I intend to remain in kerala till 21st.how can I meet or exchange views with at least one member of the team at palakkad.kindly let me know the address or contact telephone.

Sreenivasan.R

2009/12/20 SIVA VENKAT <siva...@yahoo.co.in>

[Sreenivasan R]

Dear Members,

 

I am planning to reach Thrissur on 16th Jan 2010 and proceed to Palakkad on 17th.I intend to remain in kerala till 21st.how can I meet or exchange views with at least one member of the team at palakkad.kindly let me know the address or contact telephone.

Sreenivasan.R

mob:9907180690

[Venkita Giri]

Dear Mr Subramonian,

Many thanks indeed for your encouraging mail which infuses more energy in me to go ahead.

Since many of us have not seen each other, some members may have doubts, which I believe are quite natural, about the integrity of those who assume the lead roles. I request those members to clear their doubts by posting their questions, no matter how inconvenient those questions might be. My aim in this project is that this must become a model for many such agraharams which I expect to come up once we successfully complete this project. 

Our ancestors found it easy to construct agraharams with meagre  resources because the cooperation among them was far better than what we have now and I believe that we could do that again in a better manner if our links are stronger. I think we will have to reinvent the wheel of cooperation among us. The "net" comes in handy to do that. Let us live together again.

With warm regards,

R V Giri.

[SIVA VENKAT]

Dear Members,

I am happy to see the responses provided by Mr. Sreenivasan and Mr Subramoniam. Also, it is good to note Mr Sreenivasan detailed responses and his effort to bring in more people into building Our Agraharam.

As Mr Giri has said, please come forward with your thoughts and comments.

.....modifying a well known saying "United We Build"

In the meanwhile, Wish you all Happy Holidays.

Regards
Siva, V
ps: Will also plan to be in Palakkad on the dates indicated by Mr Sreenivasan.
Mobile : 8122280733

--- On Tue, 22/12/09, Venkita Giri <rvgir...@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Venkita Giri <rvgir...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [agraharam2010] Some Concerns
> To: agraha...@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, 22 December, 2009, 1:03 PM
> Dear Mr Subramonian,
> Many thanks indeed for your encouraging mail
> which infuses more energy in me to go ahead.
> Since many of us have not seen each other, some
> members may have doubts, which I believe are quite natural,
> about the integrity of those who assume the lead roles. I
> request those members to clear their doubts by posting their
> questions, no matter how inconvenient those questions might
> be. My aim in this project is that this must become a model
> for many such agraharams which I expect to come up once
> we successfully complete this project. 
>
> Our ancestors found it easy to construct
> agraharams with meagre  resources because the cooperation
> among them was far better than what we have now and I
> believe that we could do that again in a better manner if
> our links are stronger. I think we will have to reinvent the
> wheel of cooperation among us. The "net" comes in
> handy to do that. Let us live together again.
>

> With warm regards,R V

[Venkita Giri]

Dear Srinivasan,

I shall be there in Palakkadu on a mutually convenient day between 17th and 21st Jan.

Regards,

R V Giri

[Sreenivasan R]

Dear Sri.Giri,

 

I shall be in palakkad on 17th and please contact me in my mobile on 17th and we can decide further or the same day we can meet.Please contact me or please give your mobile number.

sreenivasan

9907180690

2009/12/24 Venkita Giri <rvgir...@gmail.com>

[Venkita Giri]

Dear Srinivasan,

My tel number is 9746436433.

Regards,

R V Giri

[Venkita Giri]

Dear Dr Siva,

Even before the proposed meeting, I think we must narrow down our search to two or three sites so that the members can inspect them and take a decision forthwith. Otherwise we will never be able to complete the project according to the time table provided by you. I request you, therefore, to fix a date for site visit well before 17th Jan preferably during the first week of Jan.

Regards,

R V Giri 

[SIVA VENKAT]

Dear Mr Giri,

Sorry for this delayed response. Since returning from Bangalore, my net connection has not been working too well. Even my cell phone does not show the tower many times which has been exasperating.

Anyway, let me first wish and your family a Very Happy New Year 2010.

Regarding the visit, I have no problems about the same. But I am concerned about the group's participation. Since the response is minimal, my suggestion is, it would be better for us to focus on the suburbs of TVM (which is convenient for both of us).

Even if we pay 20 laks for an acre, the per cent cost is only 20k. Assuming 8 cents for a person, of which 25% will be for the common area, the cost will be 1.6 laks.

I am willing to come over to TVM any day after the 7th. Pls let me know.

Regards
Siva, V

--- On Sat, 26/12/09, Venkita Giri <rvgir...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Venkita Giri]

Dear Dr Siva,

At the outset, let me give my opinion. Just because the response is less, let us not assume that there are no takers for our project in Palakkadu. We will confirm this month itself how many of them are ready to participate. This is possible only after confirming the site. The members will not be ready to join in if we have not identified a site. Therefore, let us identify a site at the earliest in Palakkadu. In the meantime, I have managed to find out a few more sites for inspection in Palakkadu. If after finding a suitable site, if the members are not forthcoming, let us look for alternatives. 

Being the capital city, Trivandrum has its fair share of demerits. 

Mr Srinivasan from Bhilai is coming this month to Thrissur and has promised to meet us in Palakkadu. It is better that we find an area before his arrival. If you find it difficult to come down to Palakkadu, I shall try to find out the sites. I think changing the location now will be prejudicial. I have, through this group, told the members that the project will be located in Palakkadu. We shall stick to that so long as the majority of the members agree with the idea.

Please, therefore, revert with your travel plans if any.

Regards,

R Venkita Giri

[Venkita Giri]

Dear Dr Siva,

I was thinking of visiting Palakkadu this week. But I will not be moving out of Trivandrum now as the private buses are off the roads. You may come here on any day convenient to you. 

I am thinking of visiting Palakkadu next week. My intention is to inspect a few properties and shortlist some for the members to decide. After all we need at least half a dozen members to realize the project.

I do not think that lands can be bought here in Trivandrum outskirts for Rs 20,000/= per cent. If they are available at this price, most probably they will not be suitable for our purpose. The minimum price in rural areas is Rs35,000 to 40,000/= per cent. More over, there is acute shortage of sand in this area. Even if you pay Rs60,000/= per load, you may not be able to get good quality sand. 

Regards,

R V Giri