agraharam2010

[Chandra Hariharan]

Dear All,

Sorry, was busy with some assignments for last weeks, couldn't reply. Sorry for delay.

1) The areas in palakkad districts which can be considered are (just my suggestions) : Alathur, Kavasseri, Thiruviluamala, Nemmara(Costly!), Pothundi, chithur, peruvembu, koduvayoor, ththamangalam, mangurissi, pattambi, cherplasseri, pazhayannor, pazhambalakkodu, etc.
As all these places have nearby small townships where we'll have all necessary things and yes, unnecessary luxuries too.

2) I got two agents number from my friend, kuttetta alis Mr.Govindankutty, kallekulangara. 1) Mr.Sureshkumar, punnappuzha, Kallekulangara 09809551578 2) Mr.Satheesh, puthur 09249200299

3) Spoke to Maniettan alias Mr.Ramanathan, peruvmbu will be giving numbers of few agents by tomorrow. He can be contacted at 09746325714.

4)We are coming to Ailur for Theru on thiruvathira utsavam, on 1/1/2010. From 26/12/2009 to 1/1/2010, we are at Ailur. Assure to contribute more leads, as trying for the same.

5) I am shocked to see the budget has gone higher to 25 lacs! Bit afraid too, as we'll be getting bank finance for construction purpose.

6) There was Common kitchen conept. Hope will be having arrangement for assistants for coocking too! (oops......Being LADY, natural concern, with bit tension! Sorry!)

Warm Regards
Chandra
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:12:11 +0530 wrote
>
Dear Members,

I feel, discussing any corpus fund now is a bit too early.
It is certainly a nice gesture on Mr Giri's part to share information on his site visits. But again, I suggest we do not discuss this issue now.

The best thing is to contribute to the effort required to locate a suitable place. People can offer support in many ways;

1. Giving contact details of people in Palakkad, Tenkasi etc. who can help us
2. Making the actual visits to evaluate these places.
3. Providing their comments/suggestion on places identified or possible new locations that can be evaluated
4. Suggesting legal methods of establishing an entity that can take responsibility for establishing an Agraharam
5. Or simply by corresponding and sharing their thoughts

Regards
Siva, V

--- On Sat, 28/11/09, Sambasivan Venkateswaran wrote:

> From: Sambasivan Venkateswaran
> Subject: [agraharam2010] Re: corpus fund
> To: agraha...@googlegroups.com
> Date: Saturday, 28 November, 2009, 4:41 PM
> dear mr Giri,
>
> Good gesture from you.
> V sambasivan
>
> On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 8:57 AM,
> Venkita Giri
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear Mr Sambasivan,
>
>
>
> I have spent only Rs 1500/= for the first site visits. In
> case I need
>
> to spend more on future trips, we can think about
> collecting the money
>
> from the members along with the advance to be paid to the
> land owner.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> R V Giri
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Sambasivan Venkateswaran
>
>
> wrote:
>
> > what about the incidental expenditure incurred by
> whoever
>
> > V sambasivan
>
> >
>
> > On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Venkita Giri
> wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> Dear Mr Ramesh Sivan,
>
> >>
>
> >> I think collecting money at this juncture may not
> be liked by many.
>
> >> More over it is not necessary now. Once we manage
> to select an area,
>
> >> we can ask for it. It will be required at that
> time to offer as a
>
> >> token advance to the seller prior to document
> registration. I intend
>
> >> to to make it absolutely clear that the members
> need pay advance only
>
> >> if they are completely satisfied with the area
> selected and the views
>
> >> of the majority of members.
>
> >>
>
> >> Regards,
>
> >> R V Giri
>
> >>
>
> >> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Ramesh Shivan
>
>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >
>
> >> > friends,
>
> >> >
>
> >> > the interest and interaction shwon seems
> overwhelming. but still to get
>
> >> > firmly embedded with a deep rooted
> commitment, i feel a token amount of say
>
> >> > rs. 1000 should be collected in advance and
> kept as a corpus fund.
>
> >> >
>
> >> > all of us are matured and our aim is get a
> good house. let us trust each
>
> >> > other and nominate a group leader and it
> cannot be anyone else other than mr
>
> >> > giri who is dynamic and vibrant.
>
> >> >
>
> >> > i feel this amount though not significant
> will create a commitment firm.
>
> >> >
>
> >> > the main purpose is to have a BUDGET
> HOME.WITHOUT COMPROMISING ON ANY
>
> >> > FACILITY OR QUALITY YET WITHIN A DECENT
> BUDGET. the budget of rs. 5 lacs
>
> >> > looks n ice for land and perhaps a 1200 sq ft
> house ( 3 BED ROOM ) should
>
> >> > cost totally say not more than rs. 25 lacs
> including the cost of land.
>
> >> >
>
> >> > your views and suggestions for brainstorming
> is invited.
>
> >> >
>
> >> > ramesh shivan
>
> >> >
>
> >> >
>
> >> >
>
> >> >
>
> >> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --
>
> > A Call for HUMANITY
>
> > The world is a dangerous place not because of people
> who do evil, but
>
> > because of good people who look on and do nothing
> about it.
>
> >
> -- Albert Einstein
>
> >
>
> > To educate a person in mind and not in morals is to
> educate a menace to
>
> > society.
>
> >
>
> > Theodore
> Roosevelt
>
> >
>
> > V SAMBASIVAN
>
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> >
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> >
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> >
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>
>
> --
> A Call for HUMANITY
> The world is a dangerous place not because of people who do
> evil, but because of good people who look on and do nothing
> about it.
>
> -- Albert Einstein
>
>
> To educate a person in mind and not in morals is to educate
> a menace to society.
>
> Theodore Roosevelt
>
> V SAMBASIVAN
> SIS MERIDIAN, FLAT 3AB,7, GANGAI NAGAR, BYE PASS
> ROAD,VELACHERY,
>
> CHENNAI -600042
> PH 22590645, 66770057
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[SIVA VENKAT]

Dear Ms Chandra, My understanding is that we take one step at a time. First land then house. Assuming 6L for an acre, the cost for 20 cents of land would be 1.2L. In reality you may not get the whole 20 since a part will have to go for the common area (for road, community hall etc.). Regarding construction, this will be a minimum of Rs 1000/sq.ft.  So, if you want a 1000sq.ft house, your cost will be 10L.  Also, one would need to contribute to the common facilities cost (community hall, boundary wall etc.), say about 3L. So, your total cost will be around 15L (tentative). We can work out the details once the land is identified. Glad that you have provided information about people in palakkad who can help us. Is Kodumbu also a good location ? Rgds Siva --- On Sun, 29/11/09, Chandra Hariharan <iyer_chand...@rediffmail.com> wrote:

[Venkita Giri]

Dear Mrs Chandra,

Thanks a lot for the information.

The budget has not been enhanced. We are still trying to get lands for Rs 5000/- or so per cent. But if we need more facility near by, we may have to give more for land. Even if we pay 10,000/= per cent, the total cost will not go up a lot. 

When we are talking of common kitchen, definitely we will have the required staff also for the common facility. So no need to worry at all.

I do not know how the Ratham festival in Ailur is being conducted. Even though I was brought up in Trivandrum, my native place is Suchindram on way to Kanyakumari. The Suchindram temple is a very famous one. The Anjaneya here stands tall and perfect in front of Rama. This is one of the most perfect sculptures in black stone. I was there during the last Ratham festival and I took the photo which you will find in the attached file.

Regards,

R Venkita Giri

[SIVA VENKAT]

Dear Mr Giri, 1. Thank you for the nice picture of the Suchindram temple. I had visited the same about six months ago. It is a wonderful temple and I was also happy with the surroundings. I wish we could locate some land in that area. 2. I am willing to travel between Dec 9th to the 14th. Shall we visit Tenkasi and Palakkad again om these dates ? I can meet you either at Palakkad or Tenkasi.  We can use the inputs given by Ms Chandra and the others.. Regarding Community kitchen, my understanding is as follows: - This will be built adjoining the Community hall - Vessels used will be bought from a corpus fund - Cooking will be done by the Agraharam people themselves based on a schedule whereby all will take turns to do the same - Both men and women will be involved in the cooking process (so Ms Chandra, it is not limited to women only) - External help will be taken only for washing the vessels and for cleaning the premises Rgds Siva --- On Sun, 29/11/09, Venkita Giri <rvgir...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Venkita Giri <rvgir...@gmail.com> Subject: [agraharam2010] Re: agraharam2010 To: agraha...@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 5:42 PM Dear Mrs Chandra, Thanks a lot for the information. The budget has not been enhanced. We are still trying to get lands for Rs 5000/- or so per cent. But if we need more facility near by, we may have to give more for land. Even if we pay 10,000/= per cent, the total cost will not go up a lot.  When we are talking of common kitchen, definitely we will have the required staff also for the common facility. So no need to worry at all. I do not know how the Ratham festival in Ailur is being conducted. Even though I was brought up in Trivandrum, my native place is Suchindram on way to Kanyakumari. The Suchindram temple is a very famous one. The Anjaneya here stands tall and perfect in front of Rama. This is one of the most perfect sculptures in black stone. I was there during the last Ratham festival and I took the photo which you will find in the attached file. Regards, R Venkita Giri On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Chandra Hariharan <iyer_chand...@rediffmail.com> wrote: Dear All, Sorry, was busy with some assignments for last weeks, couldn't reply. Sorry for delay. 1) The areas in palakkad districts which can be considered are (just my suggestions) : Alathur, Kavasseri, Thiruviluamala, Nemmara(Costly!), Pothundi, chithur, peruvembu, koduvayoor, ththamangalam, mangurissi, pattambi, cherplasseri, pazhayannor, pazhambalakkodu, etc. As all these places have nearby small townships where we'll have all necessary things and yes, unnecessary luxuries too.

[Venkita Giri]

Dear Dr Siva,

As far as cooking is concerned, I understand your point. If we do the cooking, we would be actively engaged most of the time. But petty quarrels and skirmishes could result as some of us are likely to work harder while some others might take rest. This proposal will not work at all. We could, how ever,  actively engage ourselves in cooking activities voluntarily to spend time. Once almost all houses are occupied, there would not be any problem in appointing a cook and an assistant. 

Thenkasi, no doubt, is a nice place to live in. But low priced lands are available only in remote areas which are not safe security wise. Before I visited Palghat, I had been to Tenkasi along with T S Iyer. That was the impression I got then. More over, most of the members are from Palghat and they would naturally like to have the residential units located somewhere in Palakkad so that they could interact with their friends and relatives after settling in.

To visit Palakkad again, we need to get a clear picture of the available lands as most of the areas shown by the agents are useless for our purpose. I had spent lot of time and money in moving around with agents. I am still collecting information through the net. If you go through the Google map, you will find that Ailur or any area south of Nenmara would be good for our purpose.. The eastern and southern areas have mountains having altitudes of 1000 to 3000 feet. The hot winds in summer from Tamil Nadu are effectively blocked by these mountains. The Pothundy dam ensures the water table in the area. 

No doubt, Suchindram is a very nice place to live in. There are beautiful small agraharams all around. But Brahmin population keeps reducing a lot. When I was a small boy, the south car street was fully occupied by Brahmins. But now there is only one Telugu Brahmin family still living there. The house we lived in is bought by a Reddiar.

I look forward to meting you in December.

Regards,

R V Giri

[SIVA VENKAT]

Dear Mr Giri,

1. Regarding cooking, every one will take turns based on a schedule. Also, the work involved will be divided. The Menu for a week will be fixed. But I understand, things may not be as simple as it sounds.

2. Okay, we will drop tenkasi.

3. Regarding Palakkad, my knowledge of the place is limited. I have visited Kalpathy, Cheruplaserry, Ramaserry (idlis) and Kodumbu. Cheruplaserry is too far. Anyway, I will go by your advice as well as that of our group members. My contribution will be to make a visit and to evaluate the places identified. So, do let me know when we can make the visit to Palakkad together ??

4. Can we also consider the suburbs of Trivandrum? Places between TVM and Nagerkoil.

Rgds
Siva, V

> Regards,R V Giri

>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:13 AM,
> SIVA VENKAT <siva...@yahoo.co.in>
> wrote:
>

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[Venkita Giri]

Dear Dr Siva,

1. There could be far too many problems than what meet our eyes. I
believe that it could prove itself to be recipe for disaster. Any way
let us leave it to the majority opinion.

3.I am also not well versed with Palakkadu even though I had visited
the place several times. In fact northern areas of Palakkadu are
better than southern areas (Chepulassery, Mundur etc) as the dry dust
laden winds do not strike those areas much. But the Brahmin
settlements may not be there at all.

4. The land prices are prohibitive. The minimum price for rural areas
is 25,000/= per cent.

My opinion is, instead of wasting the time of both of us, one of us
could go first and short list the areas worth considering. Final
selection could be done together. I am giving this opinion because
most of the sites shown by the agents will be of no use for us.

Regards,
R V Giri

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:05 PM, SIVA VENKAT <siva...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>
> Dear Mr Giri,
>
> 1. Regarding cooking, every one will take turns based on a schedule. Also, the work involved will be divided. The Menu for a week will be fixed. But I understand, things may not be as simple as it sounds.
>
> 2. Okay, we will drop tenkasi.
>
> 3. Regarding Palakkad, my knowledge of the place is limited. I have visited Kalpathy, Cheruplaserry, Ramaserry (idlis) and Kodumbu. Cheruplaserry is too far. Anyway, I will go by your advice as well as that of our group members.  My contribution will be to make a visit and to evaluate the places identified.  So, do let me know when we can make the visit to Palakkad together
>

[SIVA VENKAT]

Dear Mr Giri/Members,

I will visit Palakkad first. But I will need the following information :

- Directions to locating the place already seen by Mr Giri, namely, the one that has a transformer adjacent to the plot.
- Chandra's input about directions to her Uncle's village. I will also contact the people identified by her
- Any other data that can be provided by the members to help us locate a good place
- My plan is to visit palakkad around the 10th.

Rgds
Siva, V

[Venkita Giri]

Dear Dr Siva,

I shall give you all details a few days before you leave for Palakkadu.

Regards,
R Venkita Giri