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Ice-Man
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Viram esta discussão no leanagile??! ^^
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Viram esta discussão no leanagile??! ^^
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Siga-me no meu blog...
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From: Joshua Milane <jo...@mittechnical.com>
Date: 2012/1/15
Subject: RE: [leanagile] Re: [AgileBOK] FYI - PMI-ACP results are being distributed today...
To: lean...@yahoogroups.com
I personally feel the PMI has done a great job in defining the scope of the Agile Certification. It is comprehensive and reflects the Agile Body of Knowledge in its true spirit as I have known, having been a practitioner and now an Agile coach for over a decade.
continue bI am surprised how a legacy
organization like PMI could understand the spirit of Agile so well, while
organizations like the Scrum Alliance were fooling around with Scrum Master
Certification.
I honestly feel that the PMI-ACP certification outline and process is far far superior and credible than the Scrum certifications on offer. When I did my CSM, it was a joke...there was not even an exam or a test at the end of the course at that time.
Kripanidhi
http://www.binaryessentials.com
--- In lean...@yahoogroups.com, "Joshua Milane" <josh@...> wrote:
>
> Reputable and respectable? Funny, I don't think many in software would have
> said that who had not partaken of the Kool Aid.
>
>
>
> From: lean...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:lean...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Andrew Pham
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 1:15 PM
> To: lean...@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [leanagile] Re: [AgileBOK] FYI - PMI-ACP results are being
> distributed today... [1 Attachment]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Attachment(s) from Andrew Pham included below]
>
> Attached is the content of this new PMI's Agile Practitioner certification
> test which they send to me in asking me for a new book.
>
> As the PMI is a very reputable and professional organization in terms of
> project management, there is no doubt that this (passing and failing) test
> will be a very successful test with a lot of respect from the employers and
> the industry. Many of the project managers I currently coach have let me
> know their intent all to take it.
>
> Otherwise, below is a book by another author which is already scheduled to
> be released next week or something like that which they also send to me to
> look at.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/PMI-ACP-Exam-Pass-Your-First/dp/0982760833
>
> The new book they ask me to write is shorter than this book but should
> follow what I did a few months ago to help some people whom I was coaching
> to take the test since they all passed.
>
> Good reading!
>
> Andrew
>
> Andrew Pham, MBA, PMP, IEEE Senior Member,
> Author of Scrum in Action, Agile Project Management and Software
> Development,
>
> Business-Driven IT-Wide Agile (Scrum) and/or Lean (Kanban) Implementation
> (reviewed and upcoming)
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 11:49 AM, RonJeffries <ronjeffries@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello Andrew,
>
>
>
> On Jan 14, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Andrew Pham wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> They send me a total of 4 pages of details about the Agile Tools and
> Techniques (counting for 50% of the exam) and Knowledge and Skills (counting
> the other 50% of the exam) to write about and I have started.
>
>
>
> How do they know what's on the exam?
>
>
> Ron Jeffries
>
> www.XProgramming.com
>
> Everything that needs to be said has already been said.
>
> But since no one was listening, everything must be said again. -- Andre Gide
>
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From: Joshua Milane <jo...@mittechnical.com>
Date: 2012/1/15
Subject: RE: [leanagile] Re: [AgileBOK] FYI - PMI-ACP results are being distributed today...
To: lean...@yahoogroups.com
Sir, their ‘great job” comes after years of denying Agile was a real thing, and only comes NOW as a way to continue bringing in the cash. My opinion. They understand it so well because they asked Agile leaders to understand it for them. The ScrumMaster certification is worth “this person has heard of this stuff” but can you so easily discredit the CSP?
From:
lean...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:lean...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kripanidhi
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 4:41 AM
To: lean...@yahoogroups.comCSubject: [leanagile] Re: [AgileBOK]
FYI - PMI-ACP results are being distributed today...
I personally feel the PMI has done a great job in defining the scope of the Agile Certification. It is comprehensive and reflects the Agile Body of Knowledge in its true spirit as I have known, having been a practitioner and now an Agile coach for over a decade.
I honestly feel that the PMI-ACP certification outline and process is far far superior and credible than the Scrum certifications on offer. When I did my CSM, it was a joke...there was not even an exam or a test at the end of the course at that time.
Kripanidhi
http://www.binaryessentials.com
--- In lean...@yahoogroups.com, "Joshua Milane" <josh@...> wrote:
>
> Reputable and respectable? Funny, I don't think many in software would have
> said that who had not partaken of the Kool Aid.
>
>
>
> From: lean...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:lean...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Andrew Pham
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 1:15 PM
> To: lean...@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [leanagile] Re: [AgileBOK] FYI - PMI-ACP results are being
> distributed today... [1 Attachment]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Attachment(s) from Andrew Pham included below]
>
> Attached is the content of this new PMI's Agile Practitioner certification
> test which they send to me in asking me for a new book.
>
> As the PMI is a very reputable and professional organization in terms of
> project management, there is no doubt that this (passing and failing) test
> will be a very successful test with a lot of respect from the employers and
> the industry. Many of the project managers I currently coach have let me
> know their intent all to take it.
>
> Otherwise, below is a book by another author which is already scheduled to
> be released next week or something like that which they also send to me to
> look at.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/PMI-ACP-Exam-Pass-Your-First/dp/0982760833
>
> The new book they ask me to write is shorter than this book but should
> follow what I did a few months ago to help some people whom I was coaching
> to take the test since they all passed.
>
> Good reading!
>
> Andrew
>
> Andrew Pham, MBA, PMP, IEEE Senior Member,
> Author of Scrum in Action, Agile Project Management and Software
> Development,
>
> Business-Driven IT-Wide Agile (Scrum) and/or Lean (Kanban) Implementation
> (reviewed and upcoming)
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 11:49 AM, RonJeffries <ronjeffries@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello Andrew,
>
>
>
> On Jan 14, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Andrew Pham wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> They send me a total of 4 pages of details about the Agile Tools and
> Techniques (counting for 50% of the exam) and Knowledge and Skills (counting
> the other 50% of the exam) to write about and I have started.
>
>
>
> How do they know what's on the exam?
>
>
> Ron Jeffries
>
> www.XProgramming.com
>
> Everything that needs to be said has already been said.
>
> But since no one was listening, everything must be said again. -- Andre Gide
>
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