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QUOTE: Despite our extensive attempts to draw their attention in this matter and our repeated discussions and pleas , they (airlines)  refuse to resolve our issues.UNQUOTE

It is is amusing to read an impassioned mail (pleading helplessness!)from leading Travel Association, urging members to join the "leadership" in closing their offices on the 7th of May, 2013. Aren’t these the same people, who crawled, when asked to bend? Aren’t these the same people who magnanimously, agreed for 3% and then 1%, when the industry cried foul? Naturally now the Airlines will not listen to you.

 

QUOTE:As TAAI, we have spent considerable time in exploring legal initiatives. All of us are aware that any legal solution takes considerable time.UNQUOTE

Reportedly, TAAI & TAFI had agreed to approach the appellate authority, before the Karnataka High Court. Having slept over it, one can only claim helplessness. There have been litigations from IAAI and others, why not support them? Even now there are pending cases why not jointly fight it out? One hears that IAAI has been seeking your support and affidavits, but you refused to give. Why?

 

Gentlemen, in the  humble opinion of A4A, we are barking up the wrong tree. No difference will be felt if some offices are closed. Because, there are the OTAs and many other agents will keep their offices open or work from home. This tokenism,  if at all, is meant to show the public, that they are doing something… nothing more, nothing less…

 

Meanwhile, please also see the mail from one of the Chairpersons of TAAI, attached below, which is very revealing;

 

QUOTE: As I told you in my conversation I have been told by TAFI and OTA's that they are not participating in the same. Please advise if this is true. Unless that happens TAAI will become a mockery. UNQUOTE 

Yes, the whole exercise has become a mockery. Even the Jagore is a mokery, where the ledership, who are supposed to take firm stand and lead the associations are sitting among audience and as per one of the participants, did not have any concrete suggestions ! Now, the same bunch is hiding behind  “jagore” and sending ANONYMOUS letters to Airlines (See the mail appended mail below) !

 

Gentlemen, if there is a will, there certainly is a way. Our destiny is in OUR HANDS and NOT in the hands of the AIRLINES…. Let us face the situation squarely and in a manly fashion. We must negotiate from a position of strength and that we have  in APJC.

 

Put competent people in APJC. IATA resolutions are always country specific and we can and must ensure this. Unfortunately the present lot at APJC are either ignorant or spineless. When we are under 818g, they fool the agents saying we are governed by 810i ! When there is provision for 9 Agents representatives, they restrict it (illegally) to 7 so that no competent people come into this exclusive club ! 

 

Instead of enacting a farce of closing, writing letters, DEMAND from your leadership, to re-constitute the APJC as per 818g with 18 members (9+9). Let all the resolutions be country specific. Let there be demand to ensure that the law of the land is obeyed and let not the Airlines be a law unto themselves.

This is the least that this movement can do and the results will be there to see…

 

Regards

A4A

On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Dileep Kulkarni <dk_gm...@rediffmail.com> wrote:

Dear Friends,

While these agitational programs be kept on, we really need to think about our
plans and actions on long term basis which will give a permanent solution to our
woos. We need to identify the root cause of the problems faced by us every now and
then. And that is our IATA agreement - which we all know is totally ONE-SIDED.

One day strike, going slow on a particular airline staff etc. will not solve all
our problems. Pleading with Airline sales staff, or the Government or going on
Hunger strike would not be a very good idea.

Why should we plead with someone for our survival ? Why should we beg for some
thing for doing business ?

We have ( the Agent's network ) ability, qualified staff, expertise, great
infrastructure and still we are PLEADING AND BEGGING.

Inspite of being in such fantastic position, the entire travel agents fraternity
is helpless. So, let's DISCARD this agreement and draft out with a strong '
Passenger Sales Agreement ' and make airlines to " RECOGNIZE, ACCEPT THAT BY
SIGNING IT " OR LEAVE IT. We will sell only those airline who sign it. LCC's would
certainly accept it. I am sure sooner or the later other airlines would follow.
( Infact, our non IATA agents are much happier and doing well with LCC.)

For doing all this, the Core Committee or TAAI, TAFI, IAAI ( leaving aside the
differences, if any, among themselves )or any other Committee acceptable to all
Agents start drafting out a fresh agreement ASAP after getting INPUTs from the
agents. This must be done in a time bound frame work, say with in next 3 months.
The final draft should be approved by the General Body of Agents, preferably
before 31st August this year and sent to all airlines for acceptance with a cut
off date of 01 Oct. 2013. IATA agreement will naturally be discarded from that
date. Let's show to the other parts of the world that ' we can do it and have done
it '

This will put an ' END ' to all our problems and we will see better and prosperous
days ahead.

Good luck to all.

Dileep Kulkarni
98503 98513

On Fri, 03 May 2013 18:54:08 +0530 wrote
>Dear Friends


It is very encouraging to see the agents reacting to SpiceJet. Let uskeep in mind

that we do have other issues that need our actions. there is a sudden shift here
.suddenly jet seems to have gone off and the credit cycle is not thought of.

We have to maintain our focusý

The credit cycleý

Commission on all airlinesWeb Parityý

Taxation
There are some IATA resolutions which need our serious attention





My request is have an organised team at all points, let there be co

ordinationamongpeople on the action plan.

The road map needs to have a focus on the Goal that is to be achieved , and the
action plan that is required for the same.

My request ischannelizeall this momentum in a more organised manner,the Core

committee can identify agents in every city.

let there be teams ,meetings and this forum will gather all associations together
and we can move forward.

We can give our inputs to the Core committee who can compile and structure the
road map.


Friends let us act with an aim to win


Please call on your agent friends on this forum ,request all Association heads to
move their chapters across the country .


There is a call for Bandh and some are joining some are wondering,we need to have

one singular callý
,let it be a well thought of and ensure the support of all Travel agentsý

We all are together and we all should act as one ,not in parts every act of ours
should be planned and one concerted effort

Friends ,I repeat my request of Volunteers across India , hold Meetings with the
same agenda .Let Core committee be the centre to ensure the focus is not shifted

and communication is on and and we all are on the same pageý



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advice.ý Indeed, if you can actually get our problems aired in Parliament
in the current session. I feel our battle will be wonýý.

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Dear all travel agent friends



Yes it is a matter of our survival and it is really hieght of adamant attitude
of airlines who are least bothered about us. So it seems dialogue is not the
solution.

Legal course takes its own time and by the time any result comes half of us
won't be there alive.



It is very encouraging that travel fraternity all over india is now
awake and fighting for their right and finally seems to be united.



So freinds let's show our unity in north india also whether you are member
of any association or not.



We should all meet on 1st or 2nd may at some common hall over a cup of tea.
Venue can be suggested by anyone of you.



Also be ready for some unanimous action around 7th may.

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On 25 April 2013 14:01, Rajji Rai

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Congratulations !!ý Indeed,

since the last couple of weeks I have been receiving copies various mails

that has been furiously pouring from in all parts of the Country.ý

This is nothing short of a revolution and I
HEARTILY CONGRATULATE all the initiators of this movement
which, by now, has turned into a huge avalanche and hopefully we will

achieve everything that we want for our livelihood.ý Frankly, I never

anticipated such a huge outpouring of sentiment which has gladdened my heart no
end & I am thrilled to be a part of it, specially looking at all the
members responding so very favourably, quickly and with so much of gusto. I am
indeed thrilled !!

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would like to add just a few thoughts to the leaders of the
movement :-

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1.ýýýýýýýýýýýýýýýýý
Please
ensure that all the important OTAýs( for eg:-Makemytrip.com,

Cleartrip.com, Yatra, Via, Nijhawan Travel services etc all sign in with

the movement. Donýt forget, they do a huge volume of business.

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Similarly,
all the big consolidators and MNCýs like Akbar, Ria, Carlsonwagonlit, Cox

& kings ,Thomas Cook, Mercury, Kuoni etc. should also be asked to

join.ý I fear and know that incase these above players do not join the

airlines will not get effected and no results will come out, since they
command a huge percentage of our business.

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all the associations, specially TAAI , TAFI and IAAI to give a push to
the movement but carefully, or else they shall be pulled up by CCI for

going beyond their powers, and they shall be forced to pull out.ý

This happened the last time when I was President of TAAI.

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easier to handle) and decide to stop
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non-cooperation movement is total, they will definitely feel the pinch and come

forward to negotiate.ý No sooner than we win the battle with one airline,
all the others will follow automatically.ý I think a one day bandh may not
work.

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These
are my personal suggestions and most of all, you have my full
support and I shall cooperate in any action you may all deem fit.

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In fact, such a huge response has
never been witnessed before & I once again congratulate all the agents who
have started strong movement.

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Please do not let it

fail this timeýýýýýýý..

Sincerely

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Chairman
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Dear Mr. Chandra Prakash Poddar and Travel Trade Partners,   I only partly agree with you.   1st of all understand that when IAAI have WON Court Cases against the Airlines, DGCA, IATA & MoCA than why make a new core group or whatever, so called Jago Re - Travel Agents.   If all associations leave their Ego's aside than No body can stop us from getting back Commission and I assure 9%, provided everybody supports IAAI, including admission into APJC.   Secondly, if we have to shut-down even for a day, it should be well planned if all associations, Travel Agents, OTA's, etc. agree to it with a proper agenda, morcha, etc. We also need time to inform our client's, give them time so that they can plan their trips in advance, we do not loose our client's nor does these airline get direct bookings and last but not the least educate our client's with regrads to shut-down.  For your info TAAI is the only association who has joined for 7th MAY closer.   Meanwhile, please also see the mail from one of the Chairpersons Mr Mayal NR of TAAI, attached below, which is very revealing;

QUOTE: As I told you in my conversation I have been told by TAFI and OTA's that they are not participating in the same. Please advise if this is true. Unless that happens TAAI will become a mockery. UNQUOTE

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Rao" <omtou...@yahoo.co.in>, "Vipin Chandra" <vipin_...@hotmail.com>, travel...@masooms.net, "Jagore Karnataka" <jagorek...@gmail.com>, "a...@travelbindaaz.com" <a...@travelbindaaz.com>, "cc: acc...@atlastravels.com" <acc...@atlastravels.com>, "accoun...@gmail.com" <accoun...@gmail.com>, "acco...@jagadishtours.com" <acco...@jagadishtours.com>, "accts.sim...@gmail.com" <accts.sim...@gmail.com>, "Air Pushpak" <airpus...@hotmail.com>, "Alhind tours & Travels Pvt Ltd" <alhin...@gmail.com>, "alph...@rediffmail.com" <alph...@rediffmail.com>, "amit.a...@flightraja.com" <amit.a...@flightraja.com>, "anitas...@hotmail.com" <anitas...@hotmail.com>, "Alhind tours & Travels Pvt Ltd" <ash...@alhindonline.com>, "avio...@bgl.vsnl.net.in" <avio...@bgl.vsnl.net.in>, "bang...@trinityairtravel.com" <bang...@trinityairtravel.com>, "bijeet...@riya.travel" <bijeet...@riya.travel>, "bijuraj kt" <bijur...@hotmail.com>, "b...@concab.com" <b...@concab.com>, "blra...@gmail.com" <blra...@gmail.com>, "blrs...@creativeholidaysindia.com" <blrs...@creativeholidaysindia.com>, "bpak...@yahoo.co.in" <bpak...@yahoo.co.in>, "busha...@hotmail.com" <busha...@hotmail.com>, "chande...@gmail.com" <chande...@gmail.com>, "chartere...@rediffmail.com" <chartere...@rediffmail.com> Date: Saturday, 4 May, 2013, 12:44 Dear Sir, We r in receipt of yr mail. But we think u r unable to understand from where this spark's begin. The spark's was in effect from Eastern India only. This is the fight for the Travel agents and by the travel agents only, irrespective whether any association support it or not.  We Travel Agents all over India have been fighting with both Domestic & International Airlines, to restore their basic “RIGHT OF COMMISSION” since long.   Over all these period all efforts have failed and airlines still continue to stick to their stand, thereby compelling us to pass on the excess burden to our ESTEEMED CUSTOMERS. This is exactly what we, Travel Agent, have been strongly protesting, because Travel Agents Commission is supposed to be an integral part of the fare being charged by the Airlines. After all, the TRAVEL AGENTS Community not only generates almost 80% of the total sales, but they also provide direct & indirect employment to millions, and generate valuable foreign exchange for our country.   Does anybody work / sell without any REMUNERATION..???   If your answer is a “NO” please support our     “SHUT DOWN” ON 07TH May, 2013     WE NEED YOUR WHOLE HEAR-TED SUPPORT - YOU WILL BE THE GAINER. Sir, we r very sure that u r also very well aware of the grim situation we r in currently, and what the association's have been able to do for us. All they have done is to circulate mails and take certain legal steps which have also not borne any fruit, after even all these years. Hence, this is high time that all of us looked beyond these associations and took drastic measures OURSELVES. After all, we have seen the worst and there is nothing further to loose.  EASTERN INDIA TRAVEL AGENTS

On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Travel Agent <agents...@gmail.com> wrote: QUOTE: Despite our extensive attempts to draw their attention in this matter and our repeated discussions and pleas , they (airlines)  refuse to resolve our issues.UNQUOTE

It is is amusing to read an impassioned mail (pleading helplessness!)from leading Travel Association, urging members to join the "leadership" in closing their offices on the 7th of May, 2013. Aren’t these the same people, who crawled, when asked to bend? Aren’t these the same people who magnanimously, agreed for 3% and then 1%, when the industry cried foul? Naturally now the Airlines will not listen to you.

QUOTE:As TAAI, we have spent considerable time in exploring legal initiatives. All of us are aware that any legal solution takes considerable time.UNQUOTE

Reportedly, TAAI & TAFI had agreed to approach the appellate authority, before the Karnataka High Court. Having slept over it, one can only claim helplessness. There have been litigations from IAAI and others, why not support them? Even now there are pending cases why not jointly fight it out? One hears that IAAI has been seeking your support and affidavits, but you refused to give. Why?

Gentlemen, in the  humble opinion of A4A, we are barking up the wrong tree. No difference will be felt if some offices are closed. Because, there are the OTAs and many other agents will keep their offices open or work from home. This tokenism,  if at all, is meant to show the public, that they are doing something… nothing more, nothing less…

Meanwhile, please also see the mail from one of the Chairpersons of TAAI, attached below, which is very revealing;

QUOTE: As I told you in my conversation I have been told by TAFI and OTA's that they are not participating in the same. Please advise if this is true. Unless that happens TAAI will become a mockery. UNQUOTE

Yes, the whole exercise has become a mockery. Even the Jagore is a mokery, where the ledership, who are supposed to take firm stand and lead the associations are sitting among audience and as per one of the participants, did not have any concrete suggestions ! Now, the same bunch is hiding behind  “jagore” and sending ANONYMOUS letters to Airlines (See the mail appended mail below) !

Gentlemen, if there is a will, there certainly is a way. Our destiny is in OUR HANDS and NOT in the hands of the AIRLINES…. Let us face the situation squarely and in a manly fashion. We must negotiate from a position of strength and that we have  in APJC.

Put competent people in APJC. IATA resolutions are always country specific and we can and must ensure this. Unfortunately the present lot at APJC are either ignorant or spineless. When we are under 818g, they fool the agents saying we are governed by 810i ! When there is provision for 9 Agents representatives, they restrict it (illegally) to 7 so that no competent people come into this exclusive club !

Instead of enacting a farce of closing, writing letters, DEMAND from your leadership, to re-constitute the APJC as per 818g with 18 members (9+9). Let all the resolutions be country specific. Let there be demand to ensure that the law of the land is obeyed and let not the Airlines be a law unto themselves.

This is the least that this movement can do and the results will be there to see…

Regards A4A

On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Dileep Kulkarni <dk_gm...@rediffmail.com> wrote:

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[Dileep Kulkarni]

Dear Friends,

As I mentioned and have been mentioning time and again, WE DONT NEED IATA ( TO
DICTATE TERMS WITH US ).

Whether it is ' country specific ' or not. Since we are in such a strong position,
we should do business on ' our terms '. ( but we need to be fair to airlines too
as our other partner). It's a Joint Venture. Hence it has to be on ' equal
benefits '.

So the crux of the matter is ' redrafting Pax Sales Agreement '. Only then we can
put an end to all our woos.

Dileep Kulkarni


On Sat, 04 May 2013 12:41:09 +0530 wrote

>QUOTE: Despite our extensive attempts to draw their attention in this matter and
our repeated discussions and pleas , they (airlines)  refuse to resolve our
issues.UNQUOTE

It is is amusing to read an impassioned mail (pleading helplessness!)from leading
Travel Association, urging members to join the "leadership" in closing their

offices on the 7th of May, 2013. Arent these the same people, who crawled, when
asked to bend? Arent these the same people who magnanimously, agreed for 3% and

then 1%, when the industry cried foul? Naturally now the Airlines will not listen
to you.

 QUOTE:As TAAI, we have spent considerable time in exploring legal initiatives.
All of us are aware that any legal solution takes considerable time.UNQUOTE
Reportedly, TAAI & TAFI had agreed to approach the appellate authority, before the
Karnataka High Court. Having slept over it, one can only claim helplessness. There
have been litigations from IAAI and others, why not support them? Even now there
are pending cases why not jointly fight it out? One hears that IAAI has been
seeking your support and affidavits, but you refused to give. Why?
 Gentlemen, in the  humble opinion of A4A, we are barking up the wrong tree. No
difference will be felt if some offices are closed. Because, there are the OTAs
and many other agents will keep their offices open or work from home. This

tokenism,  if at all, is meant to show the public, that they are doing something&
nothing more, nothing less&

 
Meanwhile, please also see the mail from one of the Chairpersons of TAAI, attached
below, which is very revealing;
 QUOTE: As I told you in my conversation I have been told by TAFI and OTA's
that they are not participating in the same. Please advise if this is true. Unless
that happens TAAI will become a mockery. UNQUOTE 
Yes, the whole exercise has become a mockery. Even the Jagore is a mokery, where
the ledership, who are supposed to take firm stand and lead the associations are
sitting among audience and as per one of the participants, did not have any
concrete suggestions ! Now, the same bunch is hiding behind  jagore and sending
ANONYMOUS letters to Airlines (See the mail appended mail below) !
 Gentlemen, if there is a will, there certainly is a way. Our destiny is in OUR

HANDS and NOT in the hands of the AIRLINES&. Let us face the situation squarely

and in a manly fashion. We must negotiate from a position of strength and that we
have  in APJC.
 Put competent people in APJC. IATA resolutions are always country specific and we
can and must ensure this. Unfortunately the present lot at APJC are either
ignorant or spineless. When we are under 818g, they fool the agents saying we are
governed by 810i ! When there is provision for 9 Agents representatives, they
restrict it (illegally) to 7 so that no competent people come into this exclusive
club ! 
 Instead of enacting a farce of closing, writing letters, DEMAND from your
leadership, to re-constitute the APJC as per 818g with 18 members (9+9). Let all
the resolutions be country specific. Let there be demand to ensure that the law of
the land is obeyed and let not the Airlines be a law unto themselves.

This is the least that this movement can do and the results will be there to see&

 Regards
A4A

On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Dileep Kulkarni