Understanding race results and how they are presented

[Chris Roney]

I had a race today that has results based on chip times. I had a close call today with overall female masters runner. The 2nd place female in actual finishing order shows as the winner of that award as was told by the race director as finishers medals were given at the finish line and award plaques were given out inside. The 3rd place female wins the overall award based on chip time as she started 13 seconds behind and finished 3 seconds behind her. 

What is the best way to explain this result to both the race director and the participant? Should I push race directors in any future races to look at basing any overall, masters, grand masters awards off gun time rather than chip time because of examples just like this? I'm curious how others handle this for their races.

[Ted Finch]

If you have a pre prepared Division Results report, not back filled, this will show division prize winners. 

Set as Chip Time results

Refresh this regularly and you get the age group winners. You can wait until the division results summary table is complete.

Overall Results would normally be by Gun Time ( in Scotland).

Ensure race information includes the prize protocol so that some one starting 5 minutes late does not try to claim an overall podium spot based on chip time.

Cheers 

Ted

Keep it Simple Timing

Scotland 

[William Sanchez]

We base results based on gun time by default unless told otherwise by race director. We point both RDs (before the race) and runners to USATF rule as follows:

USATF Rule 245.1 states “The order in which the athletes cross the finish line will be the official finish position.” Further, Rule 245.3 – regarding transponder timing – “the actual time elapsed between an athlete reaching the starting line and finish line can be made known to the athlete, but will not be considered as official time.” In short, official time per USATF rule is gun time.
Here is why...

[Rod Simpson]

Is there a way when setting up the race in ART in the Divisions tab to tell ART to use gun time when awarding what divisions and awards are created?

[Raphael Leal]

I have asked that kind of feature many times.

Here in Brazil the overall winners are based on gun time and divisions on chip time.

Ended up developing our own website that does that as you can see here: https://cafeinacrono.com.br/evento-detalhes.html?id=28

The 6th overall male has a chip time shorter than the 4th/5th but the system ranked correctly.

[William Sanchez]

There are two ways to do it:

1) when you click Edit Race. One of the tabs has the scoring method selection on it. Gun or Chip

2) on the time race screen there is an icon on the left side of the clock. One image looks like a gun, the other looks like an RFID antenna icon. Clicking on that will let you change the scoring and reports to Gun or Chip time.

Here is the post about it:

https://groups.google.com/g/agee-race-timing/c/cUTx0lN9VVk/m/G3VPn71UBQAJ