Agazie:Please stop sending your garbage into my private mail box!You are not only a disgrace to the Igbo, you are a disgrace to allhumanity.You are a good example of a neantherthal born hundred of thousandsof years too late for his intended sojourn on planet earth.The Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa and all probably other Nigerian ethnic goups have been inter-marrying probably long before your own parents were conceived and yet the world has not collapsed.The worst thing that has ever happened is that folks like you who should have been abortedthrough a process of natural selection managed to survive nature's way of ensuring dirty genesthat folks like you carry do not enter and pollute the human gene pool.I doubt if you hold a PhD from a bonafide institution of higher learning!Bye,Ola
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WHY IGBOS SHOULD MARRY ONLY IGBOSBy Dr. James C. Agazie, james...@gmail.comSpecial thanks go to Sir Victor Anyanwu for strongly emphasizing the importance of Igbos marrying only Igbos. Congratulations to two Igbos Dr. Ijeoma Anyanwu and Engineer Gene Nwamkpa on a successful Traditional Marriage Ceremony (Igba Nkwu) held OCTOBER 4, 2014Nigeria is rapidly becoming a miscellaneous nation. Miscellaneous comes from Latin miscellus, meaning mixed and is derived from miscere, to mix. This essay is suggesting that Ndiigbo should realize the importance of marrying only members of their tribe rather than finding spouses outside the Igbo tribe.1. Igbo marriages emphasize obligations forming social linkages leading to stability and a strong family2. Yoruba marriages are lacking in stability and have high rates of divorce3. Marriages are notoriously unstable among the Hausas and KanurisThe mixing of the Nigerian bloodlines (particularly the Igbos with Hausas, and Yorubas) in a spot as tiny as Nigeria with no serious efforts made to understand the consequences of such ostentatious blending of incompatibles, has created a nation that is increasingly impossible to govern. A miscellaneous Nigeria is a melting pot that breeds discontent, discomfort, and disorientation. Difficulties arise from too many maledictions (a term used for curses or public denunciations meant to bring disgrace to a person or thing). My country Nigeria has been denounced for mismanagement, misrule, misappropriation of public funds, and malice. Nigeria is a miscegenation defined as uneasy blending of incompatibles through marriage, cohabitation, or social learning.It is difficult to expect to peacefully govern the intelligent and adventurous Igbos along with the timid, idolatrous and dishonest Yorubas who have the habit of causing confusion in government. It is more difficult to expect to rule the highly structured and disciplined Igbos in the company of lackadaisical and religiously fanatical and violent Hausas and Kanuris . Sir Lugard and the British foresaw the difficulty ruling Nigeria would create and so they did what one would to do in such complex situations involving contentious and cantankerous children. The British instituted the “divide and rule” administration and took to their heels.Igbos may fare better when their blood is kept pure and undiluted. Ndigbo may derive benefits from marrying among themselves and sticking strictly to eugenics . Eugenics is defined as the social movement claiming to improve the genetic features of human populations through selective breeding . First advocated by Sir Francis Galton, cousin of Charles Darwin, eugenics theory focuses on preserving factors that improve future generations through biological engineering.In the case of Nigeria, we should maintain the constitutional, physical or mental perspicacity of the Igbos. Perspicacity is sharpness or wisdom. Igbos marrying Igbos may improve the genetic composition of future Igbos and reclaim Igbo preeminence of the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s. The Igbos appear to be losing their competitive edge as a result of mixing freely with the other tribes biologically through intermarriage or socially through copying the violent and nomadic life of (Hausas) and the ultra-superstitious life of Yorubas . We advocate keeping the Igbo tribe pure by encouraging adventuresome and educated Igbo men to marry young female Igbo girls raised by strong Igbo parents. The idea is to produce thoughtful offspring with strong mental and psychological characteristics typical of Igbo tribe. While we welcome other tribes trading with Igbos, we frown upon intermarriages. Although we encourage trades between Ndiigbo and other tribes, we prefer keeping the Igbo tribe pure and unadulterated through self-contained marriages in order to ensure we maintain Igbo superiority for generations to come. Call us bigots or racists/tribalists if you choose. We stand our ground.There is a great influx of nomadic tribes from across Northern Nigeria’s porous borders. These tribes might not be able to adjust to a democratic environment that is Nigeria. Consider the boko haram insurgency whose influence appears to be contributory to the current Nigeria’s upheaval and insecurity. The situation is rendered more absurd when persons from peaceful Ndigbo tribe attempt to marry Fulani murderous criminals with boko haram characteristics. Such marriages have the potential to dilute Igbo genetic make-up. It is time we set up the Ndigbo Genetic Foundation to undertake scientific study of the genetic relationship of various factors that can have destructive influences on the general well-being of Ndiigbo .Can there be a reason for endemic poverty in Northern Nigeria; for Igbo love of adventure and persistence in business; for Muslims’ religious fanaticism and love of strife wherever the soles of Hausa touch; for violent Kanuri islamization; for Fulani nomadness; for Yoruba fetishes and obsessive interest in body parts? Adhering to eugenics will enable Ndigbo to avoid the pitfalls associated with miscegenation. Ndiigbo ought to marry only Igbos; Ndiigbo ought to refuse to intermarry with the other tribes in order to help improve the Igbo genetic pool and ensure Igbo safety at a decidedly perilous time.At the current rate at which Nigerian tribes are intermarrying among themselves, we run the risk of becoming a miscellaneous entity. We are all mixed up, consisting of several kinds. We come in various disquieting characteristics as a box of miscellaneous crayons. A thing is disquieting if it is worrying, disturbing, alarming, unsettling, troubling, distressing, “haywire,” or “out of wack.” Something appears to have gone wrong, emotionally wrong, or mentally bad with Nigerian society). Because we are miscellaneous, Nigerian children produced from intertribal marriages appear to have disorganized personalities, incoherent abilities, rambling capabilities, disjointed attitudes, and disorderly world views. Their intelligence quotients are falling as reported from results of the West Arican Examination Council. Their sensibilities are weakening an morality vanishing. They behave miscellaneously with a variety of tendencies some of which will assimilate, some will clash, and others will render the others dangerously ineffective. Miscellaneousness (state of being a mixed composition of various kinds) can be a benefit when creating beautiful music or arranging beautiful flowers. Miscellaneousness is good in inanimate objects such as plants, music, soups, and dances. Miscellaneousness is bad with human attitudes, behaviors, and personalities. Igbos fare better when left alone to marry within their tribe without mixing with the blood of enemies.There are evils associated with wrongful miscegenation in the Nigerian context: The quality of the Igbo tribes is watered down when Igbos acquire more and more Hausa character in dressing and language. Like Hausas, the Igbos once Yorubanized , Fulanized, or Hausanized, will abandon “hedgeucation (education as an hedge against poverty and ignorance). The adulterated Igbo may pursue Hausa life of vagabondage/rootlessness, shiftlessness and having little concern for family life and the future. The adulterated Igbo may acquire the Yoruba-like life of reckless abandon. The Igbos, once adulterated with blood of other tribes, may cease being the enviable tribe they once were. From the Yorubas, the Igbo child may acquire the lying tongue, the 419 and Yoruba habit of dealing in confusion. The child with a mixture of Igbo and Yoruba bloods is more likely than not to stand under the bridge to sell junks in the belief he would be a mansion-owning landlord/trader. Adulterated Igbo may abandon education in the hope of becoming future Dangote or Premier Awolowo, or the Emir of Kano by standing under the bridge when Lagos school is in session. The Yorubanized Igbo child is the new akata (rolling stone) on the block. The Hausanized Igbo child is the nkata (empty basket) on the loose. All in all, the prognosis of the offspring of Igbo-Hausa or Igbo-Yoruba parentage is dim and being condemned to poverty, illiteracy, or shiftlessness. Mixing of Igbo, Yoruba, or Hausa bloods may cause so much impairment it is best let Ndiigbo to go their separate ways and marry only Ndiigbo. We insist that Igbos marry only other Igbos in order to keep the Ndiigbo pure, separate, unblemished, flawless.DOCUMENT NOT YET COMPETED. ONLY FOR PRIVATE CIRCULATION. DIRECT CRITICISMS AND CONCERN TO THE ESSAYIST.
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Brother Dan:Why are you so obsessed with this your Igbomen marrying multiple wives as the solution toIgbo women not marrying outside the Igbo tribe?Brother Agazie was talking about the "non-mixingof the Igbo and other tribes." Period! He was nottalking about Igbo women (only) marrying non-Igbomen. So, at what point did you lose the thrust ofAgazie's gist? Or do you believe that Agazie isgoing to consider letting Igbo men to marry theYoruba, Hausa, Fulani, Kanuri wives, but no Igbowomen marrying from those tribes?At any rate, I have asked before: Since you areso passionate about this your multiple wivestheory, what is stopping you from practicing whatyou preach for others to do? Or is it that you arenot a qualified Igbo man to marry multiple wives?If so, why not? Yes, please tell us why yourcredentials as an "Igbo" man do not qualify youto marry nine "Igbo" wives like the headmaster ofmy primary school did.I know that you have indicated previously thatyou write, also, to entertain. But I doubt thatAgazie is writing to entertain. I think he believesin what he is saying, granted that the man cannotpossibly be serious. But his position makes himhappy. So, we'll let him be. No harm, no foul.At any rate, I leave you fine brethren in love,kindness and compassion. Remain blessed.Peace,"Ezii"(the way)* * *
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Sent: Sunday, 12 October 2014, 6:56
Subject: Re: WHY IGBOS SHOULDN'T MARRY NON-IGBOS
Green.
Good morning.
I think Mazi Agazie was trying to raise some issues on cultural behaviors and stereotypes in that essay.
He mentioned some reasons such as divorce rate being higher in Yoruba marriages , snoozing while married also being high in Yoruba marriages than in Igbo.
These are some concerns he raised we can talk about.
I have an uncle in Lagos. He had and raised all his 6 boys in Lagos, they all went to college in Lagos, and 3 of them are now married and living happily with their Yoruba wives.
They must have seen some marriageable Igbo girls, their mother must have advised them to marry Igbo women. They all refused, citing that there is no difference and some other reasons. We could not stop them.
This is a trend no one can stop.
There is ure ( find what they call this in english) I think some romantic joy between two families brought together by marriage when people of same tribe marry each other. A lot of us witnessed it, hence a saying, ogo madu wu nwa nne ya, ( A person's
in -law becomes his brother) . This is what one may miss when our kids marry Akata.
This is what a lot of us, 50 year olds and more would get by telephone talks instead of communal visits and interactions when our boys and girls leave home for marriage, if they marry outside Nigerian families.
Would this hurt?
What can we do when indeed it is obvious we cannot stop any rains.
My first trouble in my community here was when my people here noted my wife is not from Orlu zone. I wrote papers and attended meetings explaining why I think my people should start marrying from other places instead of our circling around same villages and towns and not bringing in through marriages, some other good human quality into our town, Orlu zone. Few listened to me, few pardoned me.
Late Tony Egbe was my only supporter. In the end, my wife proved me right by being the type of woman most of my people marrying from my zone would wish to have.
I believe Agazie is up to something and wants to stick it in with such an impossible proposal.
I want the rains I suspected would come out of Agazie theory so we can learn.
Dan
On Oct 11, 2014 11:38 PM, "Green Dim" <etis...@hotmail.com> wrote:Dan:Why should Agazie's comments cause any rain? Did WS not say that "Things without remedy should be without regard"? Did you get the feeling that there is a United Nations of Igbo people that will enact this rule into law and make it stick? Did the rule about Catholics marrying only Catholics stick? Did you get the feeling that Agazie has even enough power to stop any of his children from marrying Oyibo? If he tries it, he will be disowned by his children and may be barred from attending his child's wedding.So, with this much power at his disposal, I doubt that any rain will drop from the sky. As our people say, "Ife ekwulu-ekwu, emeghi-eme bu aja di na aka.To Agazie, let me just say "wishful thinking!!!"Green
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Ayo.
You noted that right.
Why would that guy, Ugo, prefer to have an in-law that may see him as nobody to an in-law, say a Yoruba, that will unhappily shake and hug him, present palmmy and kola nut, and share garri and ewudu with him.
Dan
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My take in who should be Igbos in-laws and who should not is no body’s business. It is absolutely nonsense for someone to regulate love. The racist white Americans were unable to do so what makes any of these fools to think we can do so in Igbo land. Why should anyone prefer a slave master as in-law than any other race or persons? Should be the individual is suffering from inferiority complex or should be the individual had too much to drink over the long weekend.
Whoever is proposing this foolish marriage segregation have not been to Nigeria and to Igboland in particular lately and witnessed the number of girls hanging around at night in fronts of hotels in Owerri, Aba, Umuhia and other metropolitan areas. I personally encourage, the Yoruba Christians, Edo Christians, northern Christians and other good natured individual to come to Igboland and marry our beautiful, intelligent and hardworking girls; we are open for business. The only people that I did not encourage or allowed in Igboland are Muslims.
Pagans and Christians are 190% allowed.
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:05 AM, daniel Akusobi <daku...@gmail.com> wrote:
Ayo.
You noted that right.
Why would that guy, Ugo, prefer to have an in-law that may see him as nobody to an in-law, say a Yoruba, that will unhappily shake and hug him, present palmmy and kola nut, and share garri and ewudu with him.
Dan
I hope we recognize personal opinions for what they are—personal opinions. They shouldn’t be mistaken for a concerted and reflective decision of a people to act in a certain way. Igbos, more than any other tribe in Nigeria, marry from everywhere. That’s our regular trademark that is not about to change. Funny that this is under discussion this week, because on Wednesday last week I was in a train from L’Enfant Plaza to Farragut West, and this white-white boy with curly black hair sitting next to me said “Kedu”. I was shocked and responded “O di nma” and asked him in English if he just travelled to Nigeria. He responded in perfect Igbo saying that he is from Ihiala. In the village, you see women from Russia, all parts of Europe, West Africa, and from all over Nigeria. Some children even have names of other Nigerian tribes. So, Igbos are broad minded in marriage—but at the same time, we can’t begrudge any individual their personal preferences especially, if that forms the springboard for their opinion and recommendation as to who Igbos should marry. It must be seen for what is and no more than that, an opinion. Such opinions at best, should be taken under advisement for what it is worth. But the opinion should not in a way be misconstrued as a concerted decision by Ndi Igbo to act in a certain way.
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Ola.
Self awareness, self consciousness, is the beginning of self discipline for people or a person that wants to be disciplned.
You diagnosed Nigeria well and we may have to deal, accept, our respective idiosyncrasies since it seems they are inevitable and incurable at this time.
Igbo greed, if true, may have benefitted Nigeria, Yoruba and Hausa tribes more than any other parts of Nigeria. Their greed led to their acquisition craziness and owning a lot of Abuja and perhaps Lagos, thereby helping in developing anywhere outside Igbo land they live in.
There is doubt that they, the Igbos, get rich by duping our federal government. We can trace greater looting of our national treasury to our past presidents. Most of these presidents from 1970 until recently are Hausas and Yorubas.
Thanks again for being insightful.
We are now using Agazie's "crazy" proposals to find where it hurts us more. This is the rain I anticipated.
Dan
My take in who should be Igbos in-laws and who should not is no body’s business. It is absolutely nonsense for someone to regulate love. The racist white Americans were unable to do so what makes any of these fools to think we can do so in Igbo land. Why should anyone prefer a slave master as in-law than any other race or persons? Should be the individual is suffering from inferiority complex or should be the individual had too much to drink over the long weekend.
Whoever is proposing this foolish marriage segregation have not been to Nigeria and to Igboland in particular lately and witnessed the number of girls hanging around at night in fronts of hotels in Owerri, Aba, Umuhia and other metropolitan areas. I personally encourage, the Yoruba Christians, Edo Christians, northern Christians and other good natured individual to come to Igboland and marry our beautiful, intelligent and hardworking girls; we are open for business. The only people that I did not encourage or allowed in Igboland are Muslims.
Pagans and Christians are 190% allowed.
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:05 AM, daniel Akusobi <daku...@gmail.com> wrote:
Ooooops.
I had meant ,a Yoruba man,
in-law, that would happily shake his hands .......,and not unhappily shake his...... in one of my postings today on this. Sorry.
To dee Agazie,
O wudu ichupu nkita nashi, i buru rime. Does it mean you will eat feces you chased a dog from eating?
Hope you are ready to marry 10 or more of these assets you do not want a Kwara man to marry.
Some one mentioned crowds of Igbo girls hanging out in Owerri and Aba at nights,most are single and of marriageable age. Some of these ladies won't be prostituting if they are married.
I have been noticing this, a lot of these singles and once called for people who can marry two or more women to do so, so we can reduce the number of our single ladies likely to be single for life.
Now you want to ban our neighbors from taking these girls and women you have refused to marry, or that may not get a chance to.marry an Igbo, should we insist they turn Yoruba or Hawusa suitors down.
Think about it.
Dan
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Look, Mr. Agazie or Orgasm is speaking for himself. All I know is that Southeastern Nigeria is open for business. Our girls want to marry Edo, Yourba and every any other ethnic group including Christian North. Only Boko Haram and their supporters are not allowed.
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Hehehehe!!! Vinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn……OSALOBUA ME!! Guess we don’t need Psychiatric wards in hospital if “merciless whopping and wrestling down is all you need to Cure a Madman of Madness………..hehehe!!!! JUI [shaking his head at the wonderment around folks!]
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" ME!! Guess we don’t need Psychiatric wards in hospital if “merciless whopping and wrestling down is all you need to Cure a Madman of " ( joe)
And the madman would not have felt cured with such a treatment, Adieletherapy, if he was indeed mad.
Nebu realized he was faking his mental illness.
No real mentally sick person would be cured with punches and strokes of the cane.
Dan
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Personally, I don't believe that Nigeria has Ebola contained... I somehow suspect that the Government is hiding the facts |
How can Nigeria, a country whose citizens have no record of identity track down hundreds of people exposed to Ebola ? How did they find addresses in a Country that has no address ? |
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Yeye.
You just insulted my country with your conclusion that there are no addresses in Nigeria, as such, tracing people possibly exposed to Ebola was an impossibility .
Do you realize that our great grand parents were able to locate their homes and went places without a map quest nor GPS?.
My town has no street names and people, some of us that left for USA 30 years ago, never visited any time, are still able to trace their families using some land marks and names.
Some times, the dead is still able to locate it's gave site in his home without a numerical street names.
Dan
Vin: I agree with you . I just don't see how Nigeria with it's national incompetence can contain Ebola... It defies logic, something stinks ! |
Dan: The earth is no longer flat ... What's your zip code in Nigeria |
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The Ebola thing is not over. Nigeria should not over jubilate but must continue to be vigilant. Latest report from various news sources suggest that many more people will come down with disease and survival has been reduced from 50/50 to 70/30. I hope we make our defenses stronger and not relent effort in fighting this disease. All hands on deck.
*ezekwe*
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Wow! Na true—OO
Nigeria fit purposely misdiagnose Ebola
And call the damn thing “Thyphoid”
There! No Ebola in Nigeria.
Geez!
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