FANATICAL CHRISTIANS, DESIST FROM MOCKING THE DEAD!

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What Olugbenga outlined below is the bizarre thoughtless  degree to which fanatical God advocates can insult their God. Based on everything illustrated by this religionist, God is vindictive, homicidal, and blood thirsty. If that is what the purveyors of this illustration are using to catch souls, why would any rational person have anything to do with such a phenomenon?

 

Let us subject a few of Olugbenga's childish illustrations to reason. 

 

(1) Bernard Shaw puffed out cigarette smoke and gave credit to God for that but God struck him dead with cancer over that.

(2) The builder of the Titanic was exceptionally proud of his work and thus boasted of his confidence in it by saying that God could not even sink it. For that, God sank the Titanic and through that sinking slew 1,503 people -- men, women, and children in their sleep -- in the horrendous dark frigid ocean.  

(3) Marilyn Monroe waved off someone whose conduct appeared boorish, perverse, and certainly intrusive and for that God struck her dead within a week.

(4) Bon Scott, who was ACDC front man, he was never an ex-vocalist while he was alive, sang: ''Don't stop me, I'm going down all the way, down the highway to hell'' (a metaphor for uninhibited revelry, especially of drunkenness), and for that God struck him dead.

 

The summary of everything conjured up in the above illustrations is that God is wicked, vindictive, sociopathic, and merciless. Fortunately for genuine believers in a rational God, nothing conjured up by fanatical Christians and attributed to their God could ever have come from a rational God. All of those folks would not have lived for ever, they would have died one way or the other at anytime, even if they did not say what they were alleged to have said.

 

Why are fanatical Christians, who reason like Olugbenga, so vindictive and unimaginative to the extent of attributing their disability in thinking to their God? Can Olugbenga and his fellow fanatical Christians allow Valentine Ojo and Tony Egbe to rest in peace?

 

Tufiakwa!         

Nebukadineze Adiele
Reject Religion; Revive Reasoning!

 

In a message dated 8/26/2014 10:20:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, olugbe...@gmail.com writes:

Vengeance is of God Almighty. Nobody can help God to fight His course rather He is the one that help human being to fight their courses. We should also learn not to judge as it is of God.

Take cue from this;

BERNARD SHAW while smoking his cigarette, he puffed out some smoke into the air and said '' God that's for you'' 

He died of LUNG CANCER at the age of 32 in a horrible manner.

The man who built the Titanic  :  After the construction, a reporter asked him how safe the Titanic would be     With an ironic tone he  said 'Not even God can sink it'    The result of what happened to Titanic is known by all'

Marilyn Monroe (Actress)   She was visited by Billy Graham during a presentation of a show  '' He said the spirit of God had sent him to preach to her.  After hearing what the preacher had to say, she said    ''I don't need your God''

A week later, she was found dead in her apartment

Bon Scott (singer)   The ex-vocalist of the AC/DC. On one of his 1979 songs he sang   ''Dont stop me, I'm going down all the way, down the highway to hell''   On the 19th of February 1980, Bon Scott was found dead, he had been choked by his own vomit

Campinas (IN2005)

In Campinas, Brazil a group of friends, drunk, went to pick up a friend......    The mother accompanied her to the car and was so worried about the drunkenness of her friends and she said to the daughter holding her hand, who was already seated in the car: 

''My daughter , Go with God And May He Protect You''   

She reported: ''Only if He (God) Travels in the Trunk, Cause Inside Here...... It's Already Full''

Hours later, news came by that they had been involved in a fatal accident, everyone had died. the car could not be recognized what type of car it had been, but surprisingly, the trunk was intact.

The Police said there was no way the trunk could have remained intact. To their surprise, inside the trunk was a crate of eggs, none was broken!!!

Christine Hewitt (Jamaican Journalist and entertainer) said the Bible (Word of God) was the worst book ever written.

In June 2006 she was found burnt beyond recognition in her motor vehicle. God is powerful and many have forgotten the fact that no other name was given so much authority as the name of God.   THAT IS HOW IT IS  right from the beginning

   

On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 6:25 AM, 'Kolawole Onifade' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafric...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

I commiserate with the families left behind by Messrs. Otitigbe and Ojo. They are in my thoughts and prayers.

I also don't think this is a time to pontificate about where a person's soul will find repose! 

These deaths, serve to sober me up and perhaps bring into sharper focus the transient nature of life. Therefore, I extend an olive branch to Afis and publicly announce that I do not wish you any evil. I will henceforth take any abuse without uttering a word in response.

Kola/

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On Aug 25, 2014, at 1:13 AM, Collins Ezebuihe <collye...@hotmail.com> wrote:

May the family Valentine Ojo left behind find strength and courage to soldier on.
 
I will continue to miss Dr. Ojo. However, it will be most unreasonable to pray for commitment of his soul to Jesus Christ because, while Val lived, he never believed in the Almighty God. Indeed he was a thorn all over the flesh of the Saints of God --he was particularly brutal on Evangelist, Noyo Edem. 
 
So, where exactly is Val's soul heading? The Holy Bible is clear on that question, and there is no amount of prayers that will make the Almighty God to reward Val Ojo for what he never believed in or worked for, while he had the opportunity to accept Christ as his Lord and savior. Unless he repented and accepted Christ in his last days or even minutes with humanity.
 
While what I have said may sound ridiculous and perhaps insensitive, especially at this difficult time for Val's family, it remains a fact and a useful warning to those who have been condemning Christianity --like Val was fond of doing while had breath. It is particularly a useful warning to Mazi Nebu Adiele --Mister "reject religion, revive reasoning." He has the opportunity now to accept Christ as his savior. He should not blow it.
 
Cheers to facts,
 
Collins Ezebuihe.  
 



 

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Subject: [NIgerianWorldForum] Dr Valentine has passed on to join our ancestors

 

Wow! Indeed! May Dr. Ojo's soul rest in peace with our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen. Iguade

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On Aug 24, 2014, at 10:04 PM, "'Ola Kassim' via AfricanWorldForum" <africanw...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Dear

It is with a heavy heart that I share the sad news that our brother and friend Dr Valentine left us to join our ancestors after a protracted illness.

May his soul rest in peace with our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.

More info will follow as soon as they

are received.

Life is brief, indeed too brief to fathom.

Bye

Ola 

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On Aug 24, 2014, at 8:34 PM, "Otitigbe Obadiah Oghoerore Alegbe \(The Okatakyie Otitigbe of Africa\)" <otit...@oviri.com.ar> wrote:

Mohammed.

Before Abraham, we have existed. We are not all banned by The Bible and the Quoran.

Africans know more about the source of the Bible.

Abraham is correct. He returned to nature. It is left to understand what nature is. I urge you to for once study African cosmology form where Europeans and Arabs stole knowledge.

Otitigbe.

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Tony Egbe has returned to nature but his EDUCATED MIND lives through everything he left behind, including our memories. Goodbye, friend - NEBUKADINEZE

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I want to correct Nebu. When a person dies, his soul returns to His Maker and that is in the Quran and Bible. Please do not distort the truth.

I too used to read Tony Egbe's blog contributions and I vividly recall some brief exchanges between I and him, though not in animosity.

Mohamed Warsama

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[Tony Eluemunor]

Dear All,

May the soul of Dr. Valentine Ojo of Tall Timbers rest in perfect peace. I pray the Almighty God to grant his soul eternal rest.

I'll surely and sorely miss him on these fora. He stood his ground, while cursing and raving, but everyone knew where he stood. On religion, he was not a Christian and he did not pretend about it. So, he was not a hypocrite.  I'm not writing this out of "respect for the dead". I'm writing this out my Catholic belief. Yes, Dr. Val Ojo may not have believed in Jesus. Or he may have stopped believing. But let us not forget the fact that he bore the name Val ... till the bitter end. So, he must have been baptized onto Christ.

The rest is left between him and his God, our God. Only that God will judge him.

It is against the teachings of Christianity, at least it is against the Catholic variant, which I know much about, to declare that a soul is in hell. That is why the church declares some persons to be saints, but it has never declared that anyone is a demon. Instead, it keeps praying for the rest. It is charitable for the leaving to pray for the dead and to allow God the freedom to be God and the ultimate Judge.

It is most likely that Dr. Valentine Ojo of Tall Timbers prayed for forgiveness at the point of death. That period is very terrible. It makes even the valiant shake with fear like a baby. Suddenly the great abyss is open before a person. If Val Ojo managed to pray one little prayer, he may have received a favourable answer. If we believe in the teachings of the Bible, then the salvation of the GOOD THIEF would mean something to us.

Only God knows whether Val Ojo prayed to Him before he died or not. Every Catholic knows that one of the prayers an Angel taught the "visioners" (Lucy, Jacinta and Francesco) to prepare them for the apparition of the Blessed Virgin Mary in Fatima, Portugal, in 1917 (Our Lady of Fatima) is this: "My God I adore you,  I believe in you, I hope in you, I trust in you and I love you. Have mercy on those who do not adore, believe, hope, trust in you, and who do not love you".

It is possible that Dr. Val Ojo is in heaven now, having been saved by the prayers of others and that the amazing grace of God may have saved him. He might just have uttered one little prayer when it mattered most; at the point of death. 

We should be careful about judging others. All of us are tainted. Only the grace of God offers us salvation and opens the gates of heaven for us.

Also, to the person who sent in a litany of those who insulted God and received instant punishment should be careful. I say this not because that would mak God look vindictive, but we have to take into account the parable of the stupid son who asked for his inheritance, wasted it all, and returned when life became unbearable. That is the way of God; he gives all of us a very long rope. Grace of pursues all of us here on Earth till the very end. It is only at the end of life that grace ceases and judgement sets in. Anybody could as easily compile a name of those who died after coming out from  a church, after prayers, or after a lengthy period of good deed. The ways of God are inscrutable. And what if God did not wish any of those listed persons dead? What if He never made the Titanic to sink? Would it be right to attribute to God the loss of life that He never caused? He should be careful when discussing God!

Brothers and sisters, my soul mourns - for Tony Egbe and Val Ojo.

Thanks.

Tony Eluemunor.        

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[Joe Attueyi]

Nebu

You may or may not be right in your assertions below. 

What is not in debate is that Voltaire , a worshipper of reason like you, once said that the Bible will go out of print in his life time. His home is currently a bible printing press

Joe
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[Igietseme, Joseph (CDC/OID/NCEZID)]

Hello Bro Tony and fellow Great Lion, y’re always a delight to read, especially when I recess from my data analysis and take a needed refreshing break. Daaalu My Brother Tony! Take care. JUI

[vincentotuonye]

JUI:

He maybe a delight to you but acknowledge that he is also preaching. There are too many maybes in his sermon. How we live our lives is how we will be remembered and judged. It is as simple as that.

Vin Cool Breeze Otuonye

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[Mobolaji Aluko]

Dear Tony Eluemunor:

Long time nor read....how you dey?

Although I am a catholic (universal) Christian - and not a Roman Catholic, and so do not believe in the efficacy of "one of the prayers an Angel taught the "visioners" (Lucy, Jacinta and Francesco) to prepare them for the apparition of the Blessed Virgin Mary in Fatima, Portugal, in 1917 (Our Lady of Fatima) is this: "My God I adore you,  I believe in you, I hope in you, I trust in you and I love you. Have mercy on those who do not adore, believe, hope, trust in you, and who do not love you" - there is no Biblical basis for such mythology - I agree with 100% of all the other sentiments that you expressed below.  I just did not wish to bring myself to respond to Steve Kueberuwa's stupidly insolent and knee-jerk reaction to my initial intervention....others, particularly Vin Otuonye,  have responded  to him sufficiently...the guy is a grumpy near-70-year-old fake hypocrite, with emphasis on both the adjectives and the noun, for who it is that only Nigerian cyberspace would still allow him with his sordid reputation to continue to pontificate with impunity, especially on Christian matters.

Moving on......

The different situations of the two robbers on the Cross with Christ - one mocking, the other confessional and accepting of Christ's innocent Messiahship, and pleading for permanent companionship with HIm in Heaven -  was to teach us about Christ's mercy (not giving us the punishment we deserve) and grace (showering us with the favor that we don't deserve) even  at the point of death.  The important issues though are TRUE heart-felt confession AND acceptance which ONLY God through Christ - not you or I - can know.  But I do not believe that even UNTIL very death you "who do not adore, believe, hope, trust in you, and who do not love" God, will earn his mercy or grace.  That is NOT what the Bible teaches.

Now as you rightly wrote, since no one of us was with Val Ojo at the point of death - or even weeks or months before he passed - we cannot know exactly what his disposition was with the Christ of God.  All we remember was the constant mocking of Christians and Christianity, but I would admit not of Christ Himself, like that fellow Nebu does, who, unless he repents, might be heading for hell in a handbag.  What the Bible teaches though is that the TRUE Christian should STRIVE to ascertain that if he or she DIED at ANY moment, he or she is SURE to go to Heaven.....for the God of Christ is just and NOT capricious to those who TRULY serve and obey Him.  That is the GUARANTEE of true Christianity - Heaven - but the converse of that is not certain Hell, except as CHOSEN by a person himself or herself through un-repentant behavior till the end - again because of the lesson of the repentant robber on the cross.

Now in the Bible, there is a difficult and different aspect for Christians who RENOUNCE the faith.....it appears that God particularly dislikes those who have tasted His grace and mercy, and then turn against Him, the prime example of that being Lucifer himself, previously one of the brightest angels in Heaven before he led a rebellion for which he and several angels-turned-demons were kicked out to roam the Earth.  It is for those the Bible talks about the invasions of demons 7 times the previous one - and hence EVEN more difficult to exorcise.  Again, one does not know whether Val turned against Christ - but rather against Christians and Christianity - but Christ's grace and mercy would have to be huge for him if that was the case - and I hope that was not really the case.

Let me repeat:  I pray for the mercy of the Christ of God for the departed netizen Val Ojo, that his soul permanently repose in peace in His presence, and for the consolation of his family.  And I mean it....I met him face to face but once, but spoke to him a number of  times on the phone, and he was always a gracious and nice and respectful person to speak with.

And there you have it.

I am moving on.....

Bolaji Aluko

[Rex Marinus]

May Val Ojo find peace wherever he may be - in the bosom of Olodumare, the divine godhead of the Yoruba and the ancestral guardians of the earth to which he returns, or to the embrace of the merciful God whom the Christians equally believe grants reprieve to all earthly transgression. If nullity be the great purpose of the earth, may he become one with the earth, for afterall, all is nought, and to nought we return.
Obi Nwakanma
 

 

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Dr. Valentine “Val” Ojo, 66

August 26, 2014

Dr. Valentine “Val” Ojo of Tall Timbers, MD passed away August 23, 2014, after a protracted illness; surrounded by his loving family. Born on February 14, 1948 in Ondo, Nigeria, Val was the eldest child of the late Chief Jerome Ojo (Baba D2) and Rose Eunice Ojo.

He obtained his early childhood education at St. Mathew’s (RCM) Primary School and St. Joseph’s College (Secondary School), both in Ondo town. Valentine married his beloved wife, Agathachristy Ngozi, in August 1989. An avid reader and prolific writer, Val was a linguist who was very fluent in several languages. He started his undergraduate studies at the University of Ibadan in Nigeria and continued to the then Soviet Union where he obtained his first and second degrees. He earned another Master’s degree and the doctorate at the University of Tubingen, Germany (1978). Before relocating to, and settling in the United States with his family, Dr. Ojo was a professor of German and Italian at the University of Ife (Obafemi Awolowo University), Nigeria; and traveled extensively throughout Europe.

A proud educator, Dr. Ojo taught at St. Mary’s College of MD, Lincoln University in PA, and Prince George’s County public schools. He served on the Archdiocese of Washington School Board of Education and on the Mediation Committee of St. Mary’s County. He was a passionate participant on internet for African and Nigerian political and social-economic issues. Val also enjoyed music, photography, gardening, biking and camping. He was a connoisseur of good music and good wine. However, his greatest love was for his family whose company he relished; he was particularly committed to the well-being and education of his children.

Dr. Ojo leaves behind to cherish his memories: his beloved wife; four children, Mayowa, Omolayo Mayokun and Omotayo; siblings, Vitalis Ojo, Lucrentia Abdullahi and Crescentia Adelabu; many nieces, nephews and cousins. In addition to his parents, he is preceded in death by a brother, Venantius Ojo and a sister, Emerentia Akintewe.

The Memorial/Funeral Mass will be held at 10:00 am on Saturday, August 30, 2014, at St. George’s Catholic Church, 19199 St. George’s Church Road, Valley Lee, MD 20692.

Condolences may be made at www.brinsfieldfuneral.com.

Funeral arrangements by the Brinsfield Funeral Home, P.A., Leonardtown, MD.

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Dr. Valentine “Val” Ojo, 66

The Memorial/Funeral Mass will be held at 10:00 am on Saturday, August 30, 2014, at St. George’s Catholic Church, 19199 St. George’s Church Road, Valley Lee, MD 20692.

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[Stevek]

Because he Vakentine Ojo sided with you in your stupid quarrel with Emeka Ogwuonye, he was successfully sued by Emeka, who obtained a lien against his estate. It is quite possible that it is this event that stressed him into the physiological and medical condition of a stroke. This, eventually, killed this man who mistook you for a friend. Comparatively, in not actively pursuing the lien and evicting Ojo and his family from the family home, he - Ojo's enemy - has behaved more like a Christian to him than you, judging by what you have written about him since you heard of his death. Bolaji, what is more sordid than that? Stevek. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

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[Igietseme, Joseph (CDC/OID/NCEZID)]

Without risking any blackmailing attempt by anybody who would suggest that JUI is using a Govt’s email to preach God to his folks, I dare to say through this medium at this point that the great nation several us here reside [USA] was built on the philosophy of “Trusting in God”! The Founders lacked neither reasoning nor logic in their practical effort to found, properly situate and relentlessly developed the country.

Yes, reasoning and rational logic are IMPORTANT for human existence but true life experiences will soon educate any decent human that human existence transcends mere reasoning and logic; if not, there will be no place for human intuition, which is REAL! As we know, a number of human feats were achieved through intuitive processes, some of which were post-dictively clarified or explained via human retrospective expedition in reasoning and logic. FACT!

 

Now, the following statement almost numbed JUI: “””Jesus was wrong because the evidence is abundant -- he did not return when he claimed he would and has never returned since; he ain't returning away. He was a human being who taught his followers allegorically but the fanatics who progressively emerged, over the millennia from his movement, distorted his teachings by giving them literalistic meanings. They made him a liar when they said that he literally will be returning to earth. They made him a liar by ascribing divinity to him based on his allegorical portrayal of himself. ””” Unquote Nebu Adiele!

Even if some of us don’t believe in certain religious faiths, the existence of deities or deified lives in the world throughout history has never been doubted. Until humanity logicalizes or rationalizes all aspects of human existence without the hand of a Deity we call God, JUI will continue to be a Catholic and will undergo transition with that FAITH! Take care. JUI

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My deepest condolence to the Ojo family on the crossing over of Dr. Val.

Despite having had some experience with him on various group, I find his writting interesting and believe he kept the group interactive.

I must say he pushed me out of many of the groups as well but that Dr. Ojo for you! Great man

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Bolaji,

Valentin Ojo was one of a kind, in an honorable way. But so are you, in the most dishonorable way. The worse part of it is that you put up a titanic struggle to show that you are unaware of this fact about yourself.

Can I remind you that because Valentine Ojo sided with you in your stupid quarrel with Emeka Ogwuonye, he was successfully sued by Emeka, who obtained a lien against his estate.

It is quite likely that it is this event that stressed him into the physiological and medical condition of a stroke. This, eventually, killed this man who mistook you for a friend.

Comparatively, in not actively pursuing the lien and evicting Ojo and his family from the family home, considering him his enemy, he - Ojo's enemy - has behaved more like a Christian to him than you, judging by what you have written about him since you heard of his death.

Bolaji, what is more sordid than that?

 

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[Asagwara, Ken (EAL)]

Dr. Val Ojo through his writings may have rubbed some forumites very rough and earned their disapproval. But he was a brilliant scholar and writer who never shied away from tell a disagreeing reader what to do with his dissenting views, if such came across to him as rude in behavior. He was who he was and made no apologies for it.

 

One thing I respected him for was that he never used handles or fictitious names to make his case or get back at his antagonists. He was bold. But like Qansy and one other commentator opined, I had a feeling when late in 2012 it was said he had stroke that the court case he lost to Barrister Emeka Ugwuonye whereby, the amount of $350,000 or more damages was awarded against him probably contributed to it. There is a lesson to be learned by all contributors in the forums in that encounter. To have hanging on one’s neck that huge sum of award damages for an avoidable situation can be debilitating to anyone’s health unless you are a $millionaire.

 

For all that have wondered where Dr. Val Ojo’s departed soul is right now or later; please know that no human being is able to figure out whether his  departed spirit will find favor in God’s bosom or not. After all, we are told in the Holy Book in Ephesians 2:8 that, “by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God”.

 

I also pray to God Almighty to forgive him whatever errors he might have committed in this world while he lived and allow him to rest in peace in Jesus Name, Amen.

 

I join the plethora of internet friends of late Dr. Val Ojo in condoling his family. God will provide you his wife and children the fortitude to bear your loss, Amen.

 

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[KOC]

Nebu:

Why are you so full of ranting, I mean why are you such an ANGRY man, you show anger each time God or Jesus Christ is mentioned and yet you have shown all that you are an incredibly insecure man. Just check your response to Olugbenga and tell me what necessitated your rants here and there. 

I read someone using the death of another person to give you an advice just as people tend always to do, because death is always a lesson to the living and most of the time it is used to convey message to the living.

But you misconstrue the message to mean that the person was saying or alleging that you will be the next, why are you afraid if you believe in all you have been saying that “the dead will return to nature” as in, “man die go”. You even threatened yourself again that you are considering leaving the forum because of it which you have said countless number of times.

Now to your rebuttal to Olegbenga’s piece, why are you being angry at God for what someone else wrote, despite that what the person wrote was true but did God wrote it, so why is your anger being directed at God as if God is your age mate, can’t you see that you have a deep seated frustration and anger, the type that eats people up and cause them unnecessary health problems.

You are a student of “Google”, so why can’t you google all that the author said and see if those events were reported as events that ACTUALLY took place or not. What he wrote got names of real people, so why can’t you just google, dig deep to find out if those events took place or not.

Had it been that the article is against Jesus Christ and against Christians, you would have believed them without even Googling about it, and if a Christian tend to disprove it, you will go to the Google to unearth everything, so in this instance, if you are an honest man, why can’t you just dig deep, follow it through to find out if those events actually took place or not.

You better tone down on the way you are stretching your nerves because you might cause yourself a nervous breakdown necessitated by unnecessary anger.

Nebu, if I may ask, do you think you have credibility more than those you direct your rants to, if you believe that you got credibility in what you puts out in the forum, you might as well believe your fellow atheist, Vincent Unachukwu, that flying in an airplane and looking out its window would enable him to see where God lives in heaven if He truly exists.

Now let me show you that you are a concocter and first class fabricator, you concoct issues to suit your fancy all in the name of disseminating “credible” information. Thus before you point your fingers at Christians and at the bible, stand before a mirror first and see if you can recognize a monument of concoction. Read yourself below describing the same person on the reason he was mad:

“A few years ago, I was getting into my car at Ama JK, in Owerri. My driver signaled to me to hurry up, an action that prompted me to wonder what could give him the authority and boldness to so command me. I looked around and noticed that there was pandemonium within the vicinity. I thought that armed robbers were menacing (it was about 4 PM). But it was not, for I saw young women (mostly teenagers) running helter-skelter, in obvious fear of their lives and safety. As they ran, they yelled, "Abiodun!, Abiodun!", which was a clarion call, understood by any young woman within the vicinity, that their traducing  nemesis was within reach. 

 

I had heard the story of Abiodun prior to that day. He was a Yoruba man who was presumed or he pretended to be mad. As a mad man, he terrorized young women in Owerri, especially within the New and Old markets. Donning a make believe puritanical garb, Abioudun would beat up (with sticks as strong and heavy as young tree branches) any young women who wore trousers, had on lipsticks, wore short skirts, etc. If, in his pursuit of young women, he found none, he was known to take his frustration out on any vehicle within his reach. I inquired what people did every time Abiodun assaulted young women in this manner or broke vehicles' windshields and I was responded to in this manner, "What would one do to a mad man, fight him?"

 

I looked forward to meeting this Abiodun, and I would, periodically and for no reason, ask my driver to pass through those markets (an area that is a traffic nightmare) but I never ran into him. On this fateful day, at Ama JK, I felt like I won a lotto. I stopped one of the scampering young ladies and asked her to stand with me. She was terrified, but I assured her of her safety. As predictive as predictions could come, Abiodun came after this young woman. 

 

Before he could unleash any blows on her, I yelled at him to stop his move. You need to have seen the expression on his face. He was livid and felt humiliated that someone was interfering with his mission -- no one had ever done that to him. In impeccable Igbo, he asked if that day was my desired date of death. I told him that it was probably his and was likely to be if he made the wrong move. 

He tried to physically assault me and in self defense, I inflicted reasonable pains on him, eventually decking him. As he laid on that ground, I excoriated all the men within the vicinity, who would see such an abomination go on in Igbo land and allow it to stand. Abioudun was now a defeated thug and I got him to promise never to terrorize young women or anybody in Owerri, and he did so. I was thanked by all the young women within the vicinity and I assured them that they had just been emancipated from a misogynistic terrorist thug.

 

As my driver drove off, I looked back through the rear windshield and noticed that Abiodun fell back on the ground after I had dragged him around and had him apologize to the young ladies individually. I ordered him to backup, he did and we picked Abiodun up, took him to my brother's clinic where he was medically treated, given water to bathe (something he had not done in ages), fed, and clothed properly. The next day, my brother told me that Abiodun was not insane at all”  Nebukadineze Adiele

Take note that you said specifically that the madman started working for you thereafter which meant that you must have known the reason for his madness as you tell below:

“To make a long story short, Abiodun was being a thug because he could get away with it. Today, this Ondo born civil engineer works for me in Owerri. After his Youth Service in Owerri (in 1984), he fell in love with the city and the people but he fell by the wayside economically. To escape the reality of his inability to make it professionally and financially, he feigned insanity and paraded himself as a mad man. In August 1997, I became his Guardian Angel” Nebukadineze Adiele

In the above you told your audience the reason why the madman turned mad but read yourself again below in another of your write up about the same “Abiodun” the madman, when you have forgotten what you concocted earlier about as the reason if his madness and him working for you. Read:

“For example, I did not tell why Abiodun was playing crazy for over two years, beating up women (hint to the dummy: Abiodun's parents always objected to his marrying an Igbo woman. His mother warmed up to her only son's desire after his persistence. In 1996 Abiodun took his Igbo fiance to Akure to meet his parents. His father poisoned the young woman that night. His mother ratted out his father as poisoning the girl. His father, in a rage (how dare a woman reveal his secret) slew his mother instantly. Abiodun returned with his fiance's body to Owerri and afterwards became a desolate man)” Nebukadineze Adiele

So Nebu, what exactly constituted madness to “Abiodun” the madman who was / is your employee at Owerri “today”? Was he mad because “he fell by the wayside economically” as you said, or was it because “his father poisoned Abiodun’s fiancée and slew Abiodun’s mother in the process causing Abiodun to return to Owerri with the dead body of his fiancée” as you also said.

So which one be which Mr. Story teller, you will be the one to call people liars but just read yourself in an effort to impress the audience that you know what you are talking about and that you heard from the horse’s mouth and that you were personally involved because you employed the “madman” to work for you

I could not even understand how your lies sound to your own ear, that an educated man, (even uneducated man) would feign madness because he did not meet up financially, it beats me how you thought people would buy into a story that a sane man would feign madness, picking crumbs from the trash bin walking the streets and all, when you know too well that even if someone is too lazy to find something to do thus “wayside economically”, they would easily resort to begging.

Keeping Nebukadineze the rabble rouser honest and sober!

Ken.

 

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If you are a believer in God and Jesus Christ you will discover that: "Every Unpleasant Circumstance got the Seed of an Equivalent Benefit” for  "We know that all things work together for good to them that love God”Romans 8:28

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[Wharfery Snake]

How nice it would be if folks were to keep their beliefs to themselves instead of trying to force me to accept their fairytales at every turn.

Every Nigerian proselytizes but bring any crime near them, they would gladly participate. Where is your God when you loot collective fund meant for hospitals, Kindergarten education, and elder care? People must learn to shut their trap and keep to business than trying to preach me. If I want to be preached to I will go to the neighborhood church. I am tired of the preachings please.

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[peter opara]

Nebu nnaa,

The most wicked people on this God's earth are the religious. You read them below.

I had always known from childhood that these holy, holy folks in the church were mean people, and they have not stopped being mean.

As a child I observed that, their meaness, and kept my distance. Look at them, Christians so-called, virtually mocking the dead for whatever reason. Do they think God is happy with them, even Jesus Christ?

I was about three or four, when I thumbed through one big book in my father's living room, filled with paintings of folks, I now identify as middle eastern. They looked so strange to me, their big head, with some heavy stuff on it, their broad face, some wrinkled. I just thought to myself, and said, these must be very wicked people.

Look at the middle east today. Everyone is chopping off everyone's head. many of them live for blood, and love death more than they love life. They stone people to death, they chop off hands in public, they chop off heads in public, there is no blood orgy for them that is private and that is exempt - as if there is ever anedd for blood orgy.

The middle east is the home of most world religion - Christianity, Judaism, Islam. I did not know much when I used to say, if I had my way I would ban religion.

To which dummy is it new how much destruction religion has caused mankind, even now?

For me, I believe God. That is all that matters to me. I did not create myself. Other than special creation, I have not been convinced how else I could have come about.

There is a mightier being somewhere to whom I feel and remain loyal.

Man and his religion in which there exists assorted politics as you would see in a political party, I do not much care for.

May all the departed rest in perfect peace - val Ojo, and my dear friend Tony Egbe.

Peter Opara

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[Wilson Iguade]

I read below exchange and I sey to myself, lord have mercy o!

Fela was right long long long time ago! That IF you follow follow (in this case - the bible - a book, written like any other book in spite of your justification of its influences or not, in creating this book. Nonetheless, it is a book - notwithstanding its creation or how it was written). The point again, back to Anikulapo, IF you follow follow (The Bible, a book) mak u OPEN eyes, OPEN mouth, and OPEN ears na dat time u naw go pafuka!

Again, God have mercy on us, so we follow follow (The Bible, a book) with our eyes, ears, and mouths OPEN!!!

Osanobua show us light! Ise! "I"

PS:  So am clear, my opinion above is strictly limited to advancing or advocating for an idea.

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[Wilson Iguade]

Wow! This is complete shock and awe relative to Nebu's story below. 

Ken,

U don finish Nebu patapata. I not only dislike this Nebu Adiele guy after reading yours below and Nebu's cockamamie story, I have no respect for Nebu Adiele - how can any reasonable person do?

I have always found him as a "suspect". I remember vividly when I first notice this fiction writer called Nebu. If was during an attack on my reputation by Seyi Awofeso (who till today I could not identify with the Nigeria Bar Association or have the ability to locate in spite of my plea for help), anyway during that unfortunate saga -Nebu jumped in supposedly gave a legal analysis that stunned me. I was completely in shock and awe that a lawyer will behave in such manner. Anyway, I had too many battles then to fight so I picked my battle. 

The point, Nebu got noticed. So, I started, from time to time, to read this dude! And, I noticed that he was making things up (fiction), but a good grammarian, shall we say. Then, more attentions were accorded to this dude, Nebu, only for me to conclude that his fictions were best described as "lies". However, I was not done noticing this bro, thus I began to notice his fans base. To my surprise, he was fooling a bunch of so called educated people. This caused me to pulse and reevaluated my observations of this dude, Nebu. Yet, no change in my opinion that he was a fiction writer, but confused how gullible his fans were. 

Make long story short, Nebu Adiele is a liar and a thief like his most ardent bosom buddy, Peter Opara. These thieves have just not been exposed, but they would be under the right circumstances. 

How can anyone read what Nebu wrote below and find him credible? For example, he said his brother clinic treated this madman, Abiodun. Does, Nebu, realize that with appropriate resources that medical records can be confirmed? In my opinion, I don't think such records exist, it is all lies. 

Na wa, how people or the length people go to be "liked", an obvious sign of poor self esteem. Cheers. "I"

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[Okonkwo, Zephyrinus C.]

There is nothing like the Roman Catholic Church.   This is a name made up by the Anglicans.  We Catholics say we are the Catholic Church. You are either a Catholic or you are not.   

 

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Nwanna Emeka Reuben Okala:

 

I know you are a Pastor. But what I do not know is the denomination of the Christian faith you pastor for. My reason for that inquiry is due to this from you regarding my piece:

 

“Please waste not your time praying for the dead. The soul of the dead is either saved or lost - depending on the account of their stewardship whilst alive. I would rather you pray for the living,...”

 

You see, among the reason(s) church burial ceremony is held is for the clergy and the congregation to pray for a peaceful repose of the soul of the departed through God’s merciful forgiveness of the sins he/she committed while alive. Well; if the practice is different in the denomination and church that you pastor for, so be it for you. To each accordingly, I say. Praying for respite for the soul of the departed precludes not “praying for the living, especially for the immediate family for God to grant them the fortitude to bear the great loss.” Both go hand in hand. Again, you are free to see it differently. As a Pastor, kindly, you may show me where it is written in the Holy Book to, “waste not your time praying for the dead.”

 

Cheers, Bro.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

 

 

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Subject: Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] Re: [NaijaPolitics] Re: Remembering Late Dr. Val Ojo

 

"After all, we are told in the Holy Book in Ephesians 2:8 that, “by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God”.  -  Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

Comment:

Did you notice the phrase "through faith" in the portion of the Scripture that you quoted? You see, the Bible is very clear that we are saved by grace "through faith". In other words, for one to obtain Salvation by His grace, one must have faith in God. Do you know Valentine Ojo as one who had faith in God in his life time?

 

I also pray to God Almighty to forgive him whatever errors he might have committed in this world while he lived and allow him to rest in peace in Jesus Name, Amen.  -  Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

Comment:

Please waste not your time praying for the dead. The soul of the dead is either saved or lost - depending on the account of their stewardship whilst alive. I would rather you pray for the living, especially for the immediate family for God to grant them the fortitude to bear the great loss.

Have a good one,

Emeka Reuben Okala

London, UK

·         "Faith [Religion] and reason are not necessarily opposed. But when reason won't take you another step, faith keeps on going because it connects you to God." 

 

 

On Wednesday, 27 August 2014, 4:18, "peter opara ogbuo...@yahoo.com [NIgerianWorldForum]" <NIgerianW...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

Had I known. This is the time one says had i know. Had I known an award of such a sum caused Val Ojo so much jittery, as to affect his health adversely, it would have been easy to bring him solace by simply telling him he pays not a dime of that award! But who knows if indeed that was the case, that the monetary award to Emeka was responsible for his stroke? People are just guessing. I think one went as far as blaming val's death on Emeka. That is a guess GONE WILD.

 

Quit it guys. Talk about what you knew about Ojo, not what what was responsible for his death for we do not know.

 

On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 9:40 PM, "dAme jOo thepeopl...@gmail.com [NaijaPolitics]" <NaijaP...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

Dr. Asagwara,

 

The news of the passing of Mr. Tony Egbe and Dr. Ojo is still quite surreal.

 

With the amount of time people spend on these online forums, I hope a consensus will emerge of how to properly eulogize those like Dr. Ojo who were legends of the forums. Indeed, anyone who ever visited, participated in, read or forwarded emails from the various online fora know of Dr. Ojo. It would be nice to be able to 

say proper goodbyes to the departed by way of eulogies, donations to their families and bereavement threads that sort to focus on people's fond memories of the departed. These are some ways those left behind can find a modicum of closure and emotional care.

Although I am largely disengaged from the forums now, I still find these death news to be psychically injurious- especially for personalities that I knew somewhat. Overall, we live in the information age and the least we can do for people who exit too soon is to wish them a proper and enduring goodbye.

 

Dr. Ojo has left quite a few memorable electronic footprints. 

 

I share one of his many electronic footprints, this song he upload to youtube

 

Orlando Owoh's Ma wo mi roro.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa-fbuefx1c

 

Mr. Egbe, I didn't have much of an interaction with, but I certainly remember his "educated minds," and "vibrating minds" mantra. May he also find eternal rest.

 

Indeed, these fora have lost quite a few memorable netizens. 

 

 

Saludos,

jOo

 

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[Aginam O]

Dear brother Peter,

I am still in STOCK and DEVASTATED!  I don't know where people got the negative energy to criticize a young man who died at his retirement age. The time he should be traveling and enjoying his family more. For a long time, I have never cried as much as I did this morning when I remembered the falling of our two giants, Dr. Val Ojo and Mazi Tony Egbe. He do you replace those two individuals. I will miss them greatly. May God give them eternal rest! I just can't stop crying. 

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[vincentotuonye]

Stevek:

And you would know the surprise awaiting them because you are God, right?

Am giving you no credit because the statement is as baseless and useless like the statement of those wishing Val's soul ill. 

Folks, you guys are not God. Stop playing God. Stevek included.

Vin Cool Breeze Otuonye

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Subject: [africanworldforum] Re: Remembering Late Dr. Val Ojo

"I think that those who are wishing ill of Valentine's soul have big surprises waiting for them when their times come!" By Stevek

Dem say give credit when credit is due. Am giving credit to above statement, because I believe it to be true. 

Stevek, very profound statement on your part, keep the progress up, and pat yourself on the back. Hehehe! 

Lord have mercy on us, all of us - dead and alive - need prayers. This is not a new thing or Christian created, African religions all pray for the dead and to the dead. God bless. Cheers. "I"

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On Aug 27, 2014, at 12:42 PM, "'Stevek' via AfricanWorldForum" <africanw...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Ken, Good point. As Catholics, we have masses for the dead. We also believe in the Communion of Saints. Therefore, it makes sense to assume that the Requem Mass has currency with God, as a form of Intercession. No repentance in the grave doesn't mean no forgiveness in the grave; they are two different things. It just means that, once dead, your salvation - when and if it comes - comes through intrecession of the living faithful and the Communion of Saints. Jesus said, "When two or three are gatgered in my name, I wll hear their request." The problem with self made pastors of unknown denominations and other pseudo theologians, like Bolahi Aluko, is that they deign to assume that they have rhe rquiesite knowledge that applies to the Catholic faith. In this case, I say that because Valentine Ojo was, clearly, baptized and confirmed in the Catholic Church. He couldn't be otherwise if he went to Catholic elementary and huigh schools, as he appeared to have done. I think that those who are wishing ill of Valentine's soul have big surprises waiting for them when their times come!

Stevek. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

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[Otitigbe Obadiah Oghoerore Alegbe (The Okatakyie Otitigbe of Africa)]

OOOOh.

Too young to go.

What a pity?

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[Otitigbe Obadiah Oghoerore Alegbe (The Okatakyie Otitigbe of Africa)]

Orby.

These are NigerianChristians for you o.

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[Otitigbe Obadiah Oghoerore Alegbe (The Okatakyie Otitigbe of Africa)]

Vin.

 I think Stevek is saying nobody must judge Val. He is saying the thing you said here. He is saying nobody should play God.

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[goddess IsIs]

I agree. I know death comes to all ages, still 66 is to young to be dying.
I do miss my telephonic communication and missives I had with Dr. Ojo.
I learned a lot from him.
I do not know about others, but Dr. Ojo trusted me.

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[Adebayo Adejuwon]

RIP Dr Val Ojo
Adebayo Adejuwon
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[Vin Otuonye]

Otitigbe:
 
Sorry, I disagree with you a bit here my good friend.
 
Granted that could be construed as what Stevek meant, however, he could have done better expressing himself. When he said they (those wishing ill of Val's soul) have big surprises awaiting them when their times come, he is wishing them bad and playing God which is exactly  what he is attacking them for. What surprises is awaiting them when their times come? Maybe Stevek can help us here but reading the statement in its totality, you can't help but read the negative connotation the statement is conveying. This English expression is simple. We should not complicate it.
 
Vin Cool Breeze Otuonye
 

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[Chris Udoh]

My Val's soul rest in perfect peace with the Lord

 

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[Adenike Osaje]

I can't believe my eyes! Dr. Val Ojo??? This was a man I met on naijapolitics Forum; though he was always in the habit of abusing me & others forumites who never shared or believe in his thoughts but still no one prays for this sudden and untimely death of his!!! So sad and disheartening that the man who is so vocal, aggressive in his approach but so bold, courageous and truthful could leave at this time of his life when he should be resting/relaxing to enjoy the fruits of his labor!!!

My condolence to his wife, kids and entire family; and may the soul of the departed rest in peace!

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[Wilson Iguade]

Otitigbe,

Your interpretation was same as mine, thus my position. I did not want to explain or expand on Stevek's point, because it was clear as a daylight. However, am glad you did to help some improve their skills in understanding the English language. Peace! "I"

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[Otitigbe Obadiah Oghoerore Alegbe (The Okatakyie Otitigbe of Africa)]

Vin.

That is above my understanding. Stevek can clear himself.

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[Chukwuemeka Okala]

"I know you are a Pastor. But what I do not know is the denomination of the Christian faith you pastor for. My reason for that inquiry is due to this from you regarding my piece:"  -  KC Prince Asagwara

Comment:

KC Prince Asagwara my good friend, the denomination to which I belong doesn't matter so much, because I don't preach denomination. What I preach is the Word of God and that's what counts!

Regardless, I am an Apostolic Pentecostal of the United Pentecostal Church (UPC). In the US we are called the United Pentecostal Church International (UPCI).

"You see, among the reason(s) church burial ceremony is held is for the clergy and the congregation to pray for a peaceful repose of the soul of the departed through God’s merciful forgiveness of the sins he/she committed while alive.  "...As a Pastor, kindly, you may show me where it is written in the Holy Book to, “waste not your time praying for the dead.”  -  KC Prince Asagwara

Comment:

The Truth is that the Bible admonishes the living (not the dead) to obey God's mandatory instructions (Law) whilst on earth so that when he finally passes on, his soul will be judged based on the account of his stewardship whilst alive. Not the hopeless intervention of the living on his behalf after death. Please see the illustration in the Book of Luke 16: 19-31 by Jesus Himself. It is an example about "The Rich Man and Lazarus the beggar". You may not have the time to reach to your Bible, so let me reproduce it below:

19 " There was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine lenin and fared sumptuously every day. 20 But there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, full of sores, who was laid at his gate, 21 desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table. Moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham's bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 and being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24 "Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham have mercy on me' and send Lazarus that he may did the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.' 25 But Abraham said, 'Son, remember that in your life time you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. 26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.'

27 "Then he said, 'I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house, 28 for I have five brothers, and he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.' 29 Abraham said to him, 'They have Moses and prophets; let them hear them.' 30 And he said, 'No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.'

31 But he said to him, 'if they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.'"

My dear friend KC Prince Asagwara, there is a 'a great gulf'' between the soul of the saved one and that of the lost one. Any intervention by the living for a lost soul to be forgiven after death is like pouring water on the dock. It doesn't stick. It's a waste! 

On the strength of the realities of the Word - not what any clergyman may want to say or perform in order to please relatives, I say do not waste your precious time praying for forgiveness for the dead. The dead is judged by his stewardship whilst alive on earth.

Have a good one,

Emeka Reuben Okala

London, UK

"Your first sentence has a wrong message, faith and reason are in opposition. The one is an exhibition of delusions, the other is a conscious application of the brain."  -  Nebukadineze Adiele

 

 

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[Abraham Madu]

Why did Pope Francis refused to pay condolence visit to Nigeria???, Many Catholic members killed right inside the Church he claimed to represent on earth, yet we send billions of naira to the Vatican every month! He visited middle east, Asia, why is Africa boycotted???, so many questions on my mind!!!

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[Vin Otuonye]

Wilson:
 
Did you read Stevek make any noise? This is a man that will not let me get away with anything if he know am wrong. He knows my interpretation is right. That is why he is silent.
 
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[Odudu Abasi]

May God grant Val's soul perfect rest!

OduduAbasi

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Segun,

I fully agree.  Dr.Ojo chose me as his running mate for the 2015 presidential elections...but then had choice words for me when he and I differed on an issue I can't even remember.  That was Dr. Ojo.  Our beloved Dr. Ojo.  He surely will be missed.  I have never met with him in person, but did dream of him a few days ago...and he was reminiscing those exchanges on the web, and he was full of laughter (he made it sound as though that he and Igietseme and my big brother Salihu Mustafa were the best of pals).  He was immaculately dressed in a white agbada...but with a rather strange looking hat.  Even up there, Dr. Ojo had to be peculiar.  The man was surely something....something else to some...but something he surely was.  I will miss him.  If dreams were true, I will say that he is having a ball wherever he may be.

Abba

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I had on a few occasions, sparred with Dr Ojo on issues pertaining to tribal histories, national unity, foreign religion, and the best approach to solve Nigeria’s problems. 

Dr. Ojo was a formidable opponent. He was knowledgeable, thorough and direct. He had no fear or reservation in addressing any issue directly, and he took on any responders. There were no favorites with Dr Ojo. He called it as he saw it and called one out whenever he spotted errors in one’s posts. 

Over time, I had come to respect him for his unwavering standpoint on issues. There was no sitting on the fence with him. And, if he expects a response from you, he will remind you. In one of my last email exchanges with him, I had promised that the next time I’m in Maryland, I would like to have coffee with him. He went a step further by inviting me to his home for a meal. I informed him that I would settle for nothing less than ponded yam and ego soup, since he is from Ondo. Our conversation trailed off, thankfully, on a pleasant note.

I will miss Dr Ojo and his commentaries. Even though his words were not always easy to receive, he made sense. He had ideas, and occasionally, he showed his soft side and shared some of his playlist with us on the fora. Dr Ojo was not a complicated man, once you got to know him.

I pay my respects to him today for the person he was, and will play Farka Toure and some jazz music tonight in his honour.

’Segun

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Dr. Valentine “Val” Ojo, 66

August 26, 2014

Dr. Valentine “Val” Ojo of Tall Timbers, MD passed away August 23, 2014, after a protracted illness; surrounded by his loving family. Born on February 14, 1948 in Ondo, Nigeria, Val was the eldest child of the late Chief Jerome Ojo (Baba D2) and Rose Eunice Ojo.

He obtained his early childhood education at St. Mathew’s (RCM) Primary School and St. Joseph’s College (Secondary School), both in Ondo town. Valentine married his beloved wife, Agathachristy Ngozi, in August 1989. An avid reader and prolific writer, Val was a linguist who was very fluent in several languages. He started his undergraduate studies at the University of Ibadan in Nigeria and continued to the then Soviet Union where he obtained his first and second degrees. He earned another Master’s degree and the doctorate at the University of Tubingen, Germany (1978). Before relocating to, and settling in the United States with his family, Dr. Ojo was a professor of German and Italian at the University of Ife (Obafemi Awolowo University), Nigeria; and traveled extensively throughout Europe.

A proud educator, Dr. Ojo taught at St. Mary’s College of MD, Lincoln University in PA, and Prince George’s County public schools. He served on the Archdiocese of Washington School Board of Education and on the Mediation Committee of St. Mary’s County. He was a passionate participant on internet for African and Nigerian political and social-economic issues. Val also enjoyed music, photography, gardening, biking and camping. He was a connoisseur of good music and good wine. However, his greatest love was for his family whose company he relished; he was particularly committed to the well-being and education of his children.

Dr. Ojo leaves behind to cherish his memories: his beloved wife; four children, Mayowa, Omolayo Mayokun and Omotayo; siblings, Vitalis Ojo, Lucrentia Abdullahi and Crescentia Adelabu; many nieces, nephews and cousins. In addition to his parents, he is preceded in death by a brother, Venantius Ojo and a sister, Emerentia Akintewe.

The Memorial/Funeral Mass will be held at 10:00 am on Saturday, August 30, 2014, at St. George’s Catholic Church, 19199 St. George’s Church Road, Valley Lee, MD 20692.

Condolences may be made at http://www.brinsfieldfuneral.com/.

Funeral arrangements by the Brinsfield Funeral Home, P.A., Leonardtown, MD.

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On Aug 26, 2014, at 5:58 PM, vincentotuonye <vincent...@msn.com> wrote:

JUI:

He maybe a delight to you but acknowledge that he is also preaching. There are too many maybes in his sermon. How we live our lives is how we will be remembered and judged. It is as simple as that.

Vin Cool Breeze Otuonye

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Hello Bro Tony and fellow Great Lion, y’re always a delight to read, especially when I recess from my data analysis and take a needed refreshing break. Daaalu My Brother Tony! Take care. JUI

 

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Dear All,

May the soul of Dr. Valentine Ojo of Tall Timbers rest in perfect peace. I pray the Almighty God to grant his soul eternal rest.

I'll surely and sorely miss him on these fora. He stood his ground, while cursing and raving, but everyone knew where he stood. On religion, he was not a Christian and he did not pretend about it. So, he was not a hypocrite.  I'm not writing this out of "respect for the dead". I'm writing this out my Catholic belief. Yes, Dr. Val Ojo may not have believed in Jesus. Or he may have stopped believing. But let us not forget the fact that he bore the name Val ... till the bitter end. So, he must have been baptized onto Christ.

The rest is left between him and his God, our God. Only that God will judge him.

It is against the teachings of Christianity, at least it is against the Catholic variant, which I know much about, to declare that a soul is in hell. That is why the church declares some persons to be saints, but it has never declared that anyone is a demon. Instead, it keeps praying for the rest. It is charitable for the leaving to pray for the dead and to allow God the freedom to be God and the ultimate Judge.

Thanks.

Tony Eluemunor.        

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[Pa Fru Ndeh]

Oh My God.  I just got back from Cameroon.

And I am reading that Dr. Valentine Ojo is no more?

Unbelievable.  Disbelief.

I met Dr. Valentine Ojo on NaijaPolitics and several other

African fora as well.  Never did we meet each other in person.

And yes, we had several very heated exchanges.  He would 

heap insults on me with inherent alacrity.

Oh, no.  May his soul rest in perfect peace.

May his family please accept my heartfelt condolences.

 

Blessed Be Cameroon
Pa Fru Ndeh

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Changing Lives:

Christ in you and the Concept of Sin

Outing the Anti-Christ[1]

Prophet Ntemfac Ofege

Mt 24:14 And this gospel (Good News) of the kingdom (salvation, power, prosperity, divinity, immortality, Christ) shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Col 1: 25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfill the word of God; {to fulfill...: or, fully to preach the word} 26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: {in: or, among}

A Mystery is not something that cannot be understood.

Now, the Gospel of the Kingdom is when we unveil and reveal or both reveal and unveil and EXPOUND the deep secrets of God.

The Gospel of the Kingdom is when we speak mysteries and about mysteries.

1Co 4:1 Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God.

The word mystery as used in the Bible is not about issues that cannot be understood. The mysteries in the Bible are about things that the Lord God has concealed in his Word and he desires to reveal them to those who believe.

Or unto those who Be+Live.

A mystery is thus a truth that can only be understood by the initiated.

In his time, the Lord Jesus unveiled and revealed many things about the kingdom of God but he spoke in parables.

In fact, the most lethal revelations about the Lord God and his ways and his kingdom are contained in the parables.

“The kingdom of God is like…the kingdom of God is like...”

Until you are able to decipher the hidden message of the parables you may never know what exactly Jesus meant.

And, the very concept of Christ in You or Christ-ianity, my friend, is a mystery.

Christ in You.

Christ with you.

Christ for you.

Christ as you.

You as Christ.

You as a Christ-ian.

Col 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.

Christ in you.

The awesome truth that you came from God.

That sin separated you from God.

That, yes, Jesus came to re-connect you to God.

That, you can indeed, as the song say, arise and return to your Father.

Not when you die.

But right here, right now.

This is being Christ-ian.

This is living life abundantly.

This is Christ-ianity.

It is the awesome mystery of how, in his infinite wisdom, a MAN, called God, made his children in his image and likeness, only slightly lower than himself in his kingdom and sent them forth to learn how to be kings. So that they can co-rule his vast domains with him for eternity.

Job 7:17 What is man, that thou shouldest magnify him? and that thou shouldest set thine heart upon him? 18 And that thou shouldest visit him every morning, and try him every moment?

 Job 15:14 What is man, that he should be clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be righteous?

 Ps 8: 1 A Psalm of David. O LORD our Lord, how excellent is thy name in all the earth! who hast set thy glory above the heavens. 2 Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength because of thine enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the avenger.  3 When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; 4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him? 5 For thou hast made him a little lower than GOD, and hast crowned him with glory and honour. 6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet: 7 All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field;  8 The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas. 9 O LORD our Lord, how excellent is thy name in all the earth!

Friends, when the translator came upon Verse 5 of the above psalm, saying that the Lord God made man only slightly lower than himself, he panicked. He could not believe what he was reading so he wrote, slightly lower than angels.

It is also clear than the translator of NIV panicked when he came upon Isaiah 45:11.

Thus saith the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, Ask me of things to come concerning my sons, and concerning the work of my hands command ye me.

See the RSV and NIV rendition.

11  Thus says the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker: "Will you question me about my children, or command me concerning the work of my hands?

The exact opposite.

Whereas does you son need to beg you for food?

The little fellow just stands there and states the law, period.

So too it is with this man called God, whose name is LOVE.

He does not provide unto his children.

He supplies.

Php 4:19 But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.

Man has only 7 needs. But that is another teaching altogether.

God is committed to supplying all.

Ps 144:3 LORD, what is man, that thou takest knowledge of him! or the son of man, that thou makest account of him!

People allow themselves to be misled by religion because they have never paused to know who the Lord God is, who they are to him, and why Jesus came.

Read all of John 10.

The Lord Jesus stated the reason for his coming most succinctly in John 10:10, a verse that most of us recite by heart.

John 10:10. The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Not I CAME!

I am come.

Not I WILL come.

I am come!

I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Wait a minute, why would this man say unto living beings: I am come that you may have life and live life more abundantly?

Were these people dead?

Were they not living life?

What life was he talking about?

How do you get this life?

Let’s go to Genesis the very beginning of it all.

Let us start at the very beginning.

Genesis: The Fall of Adam and the Concept of Sin: from the very beginning i.e. the Genesis Account.

Friend, we are created by a God who is a Spirit.

There is a big difference between CREATION and Making or FORMING.

God creates in the spirit first and then he forms.

In fact, all things are first created in the spirit and then formed into existence.

You create the house that you would build in your spirit first – the PLAN – and then you set about building it don’t you?

Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations. {ordained: Heb. gave}

Lizards give birth to lizards.

Dogs give birth to dogs.

A God can only engender Gods after his image and after his likeness.

Ps 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. 7 nevertheless, you shall die like men, and fall like any prince."

Joh 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

If you do not know who you are you shall die very ordinary.

You will be a very ordinary prince.

So the Lord God created the man in his spirit.

Then he formed him in the womb.

Ge 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

His image is that we look like him.

His likeness is that we have his character.

We behave like him.

Ps 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

Ro 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

 Ro 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

 Php 2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world; {harmless: or, sincere} {ye shine: or, shine ye}

1Jo 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

1Jo 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Friend, NOW are we the sons of God.

Now.

Not tomorrow.

Not when we die.

Right here, right now.

Through Christ

In Christ

As Christ in you

You.

It is FREE.

Graciously offered.

Freely given.

But this honour must be received.

Do you desire this free gift?

Then do this.

4 STEPS to God

http://www.4stepstogod.com/

I have told you this.

One nanosecond after you do what is in this link, God the Father and God the Son and God the Holy Spirit now reside in you.

Why would they lie to you?

Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Friend, Christ in YOU the hope of Glory.

Christ in you.

Christ as you.

The Holy Spirit in you.

Divinity Relocated.

Born again.

Regenerated.

By Faith.

Friend, you are not regenerated, born again, saved because of your good works. It is because of your WORD.

Romans 10: 8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Because of the WORD of God.

1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth forever.

The Word of God is God

The Word of God is Christ.

The Words of God is infallible.

The Word of God is active.

The Word of God is Truth

Joh 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

God says it, I believe it, that settles it.

Nu 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

The Word of God accomplishes everything that it sets out to accomplish.

Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Jer 23:29 Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces?

Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

The Word of God came to restore us to dominion.

The Word of God is Jesus.

The Word of God is the Christ of God.

John 1:1-4 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.  2 He was in the beginning with God; 3 all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made. 4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men. The Word of God became flesh…..14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father….

The Word of God came unto us but we did not know him.

We did not receive him.

Instead we indulged in meaningless religious rites and satanic services.

But as many as received him he gave unto them POWER – the Christ – to become Sons of God.

John 1: 10 He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world knew him not.  11 He came to his own home, and his own people received him not. 12 But to all who received him, who believed in his name, he gave power to become children of God; 13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.  16 And of his fullness have all we received, and grace for grace. 17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

As many as received him je have them POWER to become the Sons of God!

POWER!

POWER!

Power to be born again.

Power to be born of God.

Power to be a child of God.

Power to grow to be a Son of God.

Friend, this POWER is the Christ!

It is a QUICKENING POWER!

It is a regenerating power!

It is a Christ-ian POWER!

It is a Dunamis i.e. a dynamic power to cause changes.

It is a POWERFUL POWER!

Without the Christ you can do nothing.

Christ is the vine and we are the branches.

The branches bear the fruit, not by DOING but by staying in the vine.

Joh 15: 1 "I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser.  2 Every branch of mine that bears no fruit, he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 3 You are already made clean by the word which I have spoken to you. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me.5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man does not abide in me, he is cast forth as a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire and burned. 7 If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you will, and it shall be done for you. 8 By this my Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit, and so prove to be my disciples.

In Christ you bear much fruit.

In Christ you can do all things.

Php 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

Notice that it is: through Christ WHICH strengtheneth me.

Not who strengtheneth me.

Christ-ianity, my friend, is a demonstration of POWER through Christ.

At all times and over every circumstance.

Ro 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: {power

Do you desire this POWER to be a SON of God?

Then do this:

4 STEPS to God

http://www.4stepstogod.com/

Friend, I am not talking church.

I am not talking dead religion

I am talking God.

I am talking Life.

I am talking truth.

Remember Genesis?

The Lord God did not create the light, the heaven and the earth by DOING.

By Working.

He created these things by SAYING.

By the Word.

By his WORD.

Genesis 1: 3 And God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.

I keep showing you this, the POWER of the WORD.

You do not gain salvation and heaven by DOING

You are saved because of your word.

Romans 10: 8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

If thou shall confess with thy mouth.

If thou shall confess with thy mouth.

If thou shall confess with thy mouth.

De 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

How do you choose life?

Simple, my friend.

Do this:

4 STEPS to God

http://www.4stepstogod.com/

Your tongue.

Your life.

If you confess with your mouth, you shall be saved.

Why is it so?

Pr 18:21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.

You see, the Lord God is his Word.

We are PEOPLE OF THE WORD.

We were made by the WORD.

In fact, the especial character of himself that the Lord God gave us is the WORD.

The Lord Jesus even taught us this MAJOR principle of the Word.

Mt 17:20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

 Mt 21:21 Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done.

If ye shall SAY!

If ye shall SAY!

If ye shall SAY!

Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

God is a spirit.

We came from God.

Hence we are spirit beings.

Because our Father is a Spirit.

Man is a spirit, he lives in a body and he has a soul.

1Th 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Sin separated us from our Father but in Christ we are reconnected, reconciled in him.

2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. {committed...:

The Genesis Account

Genesis 2

The Lord God planted a garden in Eden to the East and in the middle of the Garden were two trees.

Genesis 2: 7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.  8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. 9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Two trees

Not one.

There was the Tree of Life

And there was the Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil

He commanded the man, not the woman.

Note that he spoke his commands to the man and not the woman.

The responsibility was onto the man. There is a teaching here to these so-called emancipated women who now think a man is their equal and their brother. Woman, leave him alone he is a man.

For your own good.

However, the Lord God said, you may eat freely of every tree in the garden but thou shall not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil that is in the middle of the garden because the day that thou eatest thereof thou shall surely die.

The rest is history: but why did Adam not eat of the Tree of Life?

He would have lived for ever, no?

But then the man would have become a devil because redemption would now be impossicant – an impossibility that cannot happen!

Beguiled by the serpent, the woman ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and led the man thereto to eat.

The Lord God had categorically stated that on the day the man ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil he would surely die.

But Adam did not die on that day.

He lived for 930 years thereafter.

Ge 5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

So what death was the El Elyon talking about?

It is called Sin or the separation of the spirit of man from the spirit of God.

We were in Adam’s loins when he sinned meaning that the Adamic generation got contaminated by sin.

Ro 5: 12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

 1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

 1Co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

Salvation and Redemption in Christ

Our God is a God of secrets.

And his secrets are searchable.

Reveal-able.

The man had all along hidden the secret of salvation in the tongue of the man which man he had created in his image and with his nature.

See where he hid the salvation weapon, far from the petty wiles of the devil.

Pr 15:4 A wholesome tongue is a tree of life: but perverseness therein is a breach in the spirit.

The tree of life is in your tongue!

That is why salvation is by your tongue, YOUR WORD

The devil maybe caused the man to sin and thus separated himself from God, but the Lord God all along knew how easy it is for man to save himself.

Salvation is in your mouth, brother!

Salvation is in your tongue!

You take belief from your heart and you confess it with your tongue to be saved.

Ro 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

It does not matter who you are, where you are from, what denomination you are in: just take the belief from your heart confess it and ETERNAL LIFE is yours!

Do you want to be saved?

Do you desire eternal life?

Then do this:

4 STEPS to God

http://www.4stepstogod.com/

Friend, unto you this day is given to understand (i.e. to get revelation) about the mysteries of Christ and the gospel that you may hear the unsaid, see the unseen, converse with the Lord God who is a spirit and now benefit from the fruit of salvation.

Unto you this day is given to understand, to Eido or become aware, of some of the greatest mysteries of the kingdom of God.

May the seeds I sow fall on good ground and may you bear much fruit in Jesus name for:

Lu 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

But before we start, if you are not yet in Christ, do this:

4 STEPS to God

http://www.4stepstogod.com/

Friend, if you have done this simple thing in Faith and out of faith you are now a Christ-ian.

The FAITH that causes you to do this is the Christ.

It is the POWER of God unto salvation.

Ro 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Christ lives in you.

God lives in you.

As you.

With you.

For you.

You.

And if Christ lives in you as you for you and you, why are you struggling to live for yourself, to live your life for yourself, instead on letting him live his life through you?

Friend, the drama of the Christ-ian experience is that we try to live for Christ (and we fail woefully) instead of letting Christ live for us and do it for us.

You are not a human being reaching out for a spiritual experience. You are a spirit, conceived by a spirit, living the human experience and the life of the spirit God who engendered you lives in you. You cannot stop him outing the spiritual through you as you. Once you have brought him into your life, he starts working in you, as you and for you.

Hear the Lord Jesus:

Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

If any man loves me he shall keep MY WORDS!

Not my laws and commandments!

The words of the SALVATION prayer that you just made are in Romans 10:8-13

Ro 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Friend, when you become a Christ-ian the Lord God declares you righteous, holy and a saint.

Holy:

1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Justified:

You become JUSTIFIED – Just-as-if.

Just as if you have never sinned, you cannot sin and you will never sin.

Mt 12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

You do not work yourself or do yourself to salvation.

You talk yourself to salvation by WORDS.

Ro 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Do this:

4 STEPS to God

http://www.4stepstogod.com/

It is beyond imperative that you make this prayer and be born again.

It is a matter of life and death.

Eternal life and eternal death.

Sanctified:

Heb 2:11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

 Heb 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

 Heb 10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected forever them that are sanctified

In fact, the very second you become a Christ-ian, the Lord God wipes away your sins of yesterday, today and tomorrow.

Whenever he looks at you, even if you think that you have sinned, even if the world thinks that you have sinned, the Lord God sees the blood of Jesus that was shed for you and he declares you justified.

He declares you righteous because righteousness is a gift from God and what the Lord God gives, he cannot take away.

Ro 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

Meaning the gifts of God are irrecoverable.

The Lord God has not taken back the gifts that he gave Lucifer at the creation, why do you think he can take back what he gave you as a gift – righteousness.

Righteousness means to have a RIGHT STANDING with God.

Righteousness means to be one with God.

Righteousness means Christ-ian.

Righteousness means holiness.

It means saintliness and sainthood.

Righteousness is a gift from God to all those who are in Christ, period.

2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Religious organizations and religious teachings tend to confuse and mislead many through their false and anti-Christ teachings when it comes to basic Christ-ian concepts like sin, the Mystery of the Cross, righteousness, the Mystery of the Incarnation and, especially, the Mystery of Christ in you.

These totally satanic institutions are led by the devil to hide these truths from you because they know that if you understood what sin is, what really happened on the Cross, that Christ, or the power of God or the Holy Spirit lives in you, as you for you and is you, your life will change.

You will have a more than devil-bashing faith!

You will operate in the fillness and the fullness of your potential as Christ!

Do you desire to be considered righteous in the eyes of the Lord God?

Then do this?

4 STEPS to God

http://www.4stepstogod.com/

When you do this you are automatically a Christ-ian. You are automatically RIGHTEOUS and the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus.

2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Righteousness means a RIGHT STANDING.

Righteousness means a RELATIONSHIP with God.

The Christ-ian now has a relationship with God with all its rights and benefits.

You are not righteous because you practice righteousness.

You are righteous because you are in Christ.

Ro 8:1 here is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: {for sin: or, by a sacrifice for sin} 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. {to be carnally...: Gr. the minding of the flesh} {to be spiritually...: Gr. the minding of the Spirit} 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. {the carnal...: Gr. the minding of the flesh} 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10 ¶ And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. {by: or, because of}

Before you became a Christ-ian, you were DEAD in sin, separated from God.

Col 3:3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.

When you accept Jesus in your life by your belief and confession of your faith, the very Christ of God comes in to live in you as you for you and you.

Christ who is your life now appears.

IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!

INSTANTA!!!!!

Right here, right now!

One nanosecond after you BELIEVE AND CONFESS CHRIST!!!!!

Friend, do you want Christ to appear in your life immediately?

Then do this:

4 STEPS to God

http://www.4stepstogod.com/

Col 3:4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.

When Christ, who is our life, shall appear in the above is not talking about that distant time when the false doctrine of a Second Coming shall be effectual.

One fragmentoid of a second after you become Christ-ian, the Christ moves in.

This is the key mystery of your life as a Christ-ian.

In fact, it is the reason why you are a Christ-ian.

That is why I am come.

That is why the Lord God called me to ministry.

Romans 10: 14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?  15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

Christ in you, the hope of Glory.

Col 1: 25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfill the word of God;  26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

If you are in Christ, God sees you as righteous because your sins were crucified on the cross. Go figure why we are baptized in Christ. Jesus was baptized in a river called Jordan and the Jordan means “descent unto death.” The River Jordan takes its rise from a town called Adam.

The anti-Christ, the Pharisees and the Neo-Pharisees would not have you believe this so that you may stay in bondage obeying laws and commandments that have been abolished.

Friend, if Christ lives in you and you live in Christ, who can separate you from the hand of God?

Can the Christ in you sin?

I will show you what sin is to the regenerated Christ-ian shortly.

God has set the standards for you to have a right standing and to have a relationship with him. Those standards are in Christ.

New Creation and New Creature Reality

2Co 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

We will eventually break down the sheer magic and power of you as a New Creature, a man that has never existed before; one for whom the old is gone and the new has come.

The anti-Christ and the Neo-Pharisees – hypocrites - want you to follow their own impossible standards. They have set new laws where there are no laws.

Ro 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

The righteousness of God is in Christ Jesus, period.

Matthew 23: 1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,  2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. 4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

Whereas

Php 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

Ga 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

See this: the LIFE, the delights and the power and the glory of being in Christ.

Ro 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:  4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.  12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. 13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. 15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. 16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. 18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. 19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. 20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, 21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.  23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. 24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? 25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it. 26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. 27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.  28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. 29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. 31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? 32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? 33 Who shall lay anything to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. 34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. 37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. 38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Friend, all of CREATION awaits your rising this DAY as a Powerful Christ-ian because then you will demonstrate, manifest, display, ventilate unspeakable power and authority over all the works of the devil.

You will wreak havoc on the kingdom of darkness.

Our righteousness is in Christ Jesus, not because of some good deed we have done or some work we have done or because we have kept a law.

Ro 3: 20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. 21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;  26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. 27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

 2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

 2Pe 1:1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ: He declares you holy.

 

God does not require you to be morally upright and spiritual and suffering from a worldly definition of wellbeing before you come to him. You come to him IN CHRIST JESUS and then he makes you morally upright and spiritual and he calls for the corn to guarantee your wellbeing.

Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden and I will give you rest.

Mt 11:28 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Joh 5:40 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Joh 1:4 In him is life and the light of men. And that life – Zoe or eternal life, he gave to they that received him and believe on him.

Joh 10:13 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.  11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.  12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:  13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Thus it may be seen that Christ-ian longings and spiritual urges are not of such a nature as would merely lead men to want to believe in God, but rather are they of such nature and power that men are profoundly impressed with the conviction that they ought to believe in God: that they Eido – are aware of - God and that they Epignosis – have a relationship-conversation with - God.

This is the TRUTH level of spirituality.

The sense of evolutionary duty and the obligations consequent upon the illumination of revelation make such a profound impression upon man’s moral nature that he finally reaches that position of mind and that attitude of soul where he concludes that he has no right not to believe in God. The higher and super philosophic wisdom of such enlightened and disciplined individuals ultimately instructs them that to doubt God or distrust his goodness would be to prove untrue to the realest and deepest thing within the human mind and soul — the divine Holy Spirit.

It needs FAITH to ‘see’ this dimension of humanity.

The Christ-ian has discovered the indwelling divinity and some.

Yes, I shall Arise and Return to MY FATHER!

2Co 2:11 Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices. Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

Sin: Romans 14:23b For whatsoever is not of Faith is Sin.

For whatsoever is not of Faith is Sin!!!!!!

Friend, read Romans 14, all of it.

Then land at the very conclusion.

Verse 23, part b.

Ro 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

Whatsoever is not of faith is sin!!!!!

Can you fathom the sheer POWER in this?

Why do you judge yourself?

Why do you judge others?

Read Romans 14 again and again and again.

It will help you.

Romans 14: 4 Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Master is able to make him stand.

Why do you allow others to judge you?

Whatsoever is not of faith is sin!!!!!

Ro 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

The concept of sin is a small matter between you and your God.

Nobody else.

Whereas the Lord God does not condemn you in you are in Christ.

Ro 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

And, whatsoever is not of faith is sin!!!!!

And, faith comes by hearing the voice of God within you.

Ro 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

And faith comes by hearing the Christ within you in all your actions.

And, whatsoever is not of faith is sin!!!!!

Herein lies the definition of sin unto the New Covenant Christian.

Sin therefore is not about laws and commandments for Christ came to abolish the ENMITY that called the laws and commandments that separated us from God and has now made us at one-ment, justified, holy, and righteous before God and with God and in God.

Yes, I have arisen and am now in My Father!

We are now in Christ and hence in God himself.

This is very powerful

Read it for yourself.

All of Ephesians 2.

Eph 2: 1 And you he made alive, when you were dead through the trespasses and sins 2 in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among these we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, following the desires of body and mind, and so we were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, out of the great love with which he loved us, 5 even when we were dead through our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up with him, and made us sit with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not your own doing, it is the gift of God-- 9 not because of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them. 11 Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called the uncircumcision by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands-- 12 remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near in the blood of Christ. 14 For he is our peace, who has made us both one, and has broken down the dividing wall of hostility, 15 by abolishing in his flesh the law of commandments and ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, 16 and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby bringing the hostility to an end. 17 And he came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near; 18 for through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. 19 So then you are no longer strangers and sojourners, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20 built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, 21 in whom the whole structure is joined together and grows into a holy temple in the Lord; 22 in whom you also are built into it for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.

Verse 15.  Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

Let us pour strong light or phortizo unto the grey areas.

Let us unveil the dark areas.

Let us begin in the beginning.

What is sin?

The minute you say sin, religious people conjure images of the 10 Commandments and a wrathful, vengeful god sitting beside a lake of white-hot fire gathering his brows like gathering storm and getting ready to shove you therein.

Friend, there were more than 10 commandments, some of which you have never heard about.

The Roman Catholic Christian is in a sorry predicament.

Not only does this church not teach its members about the 612 actual commandments but this church actually re-wrote the 10 Commandments and actually removed some of them to suit its practiced idolatry.

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[franklyne ogbunwezeh]

I have been away from the forum for sometime. I just learnt that Dr. Val Ojo is no more. The death of every man diminishes me. It is a reminder of that destiny of all the living.

May Dr. Ojo find peace and rest.

May the family be granted the fortitude to bear this loss.

Franklyne Ogbunwezeh

 

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[felix vescovi]

Within the chancel of these forums interred

the memories of the Great PhD Valentine Ojo, whose name

was writ in tribal-racial Waters

The coarsest, justest, and most most beneficent

of the forums.Who cursed, scour'd the rivers

and used profanity.

What hee gave, wee have

What hee spent, wee had,

What he left, we lost.

Here lies a Proof that wit can never be

Defence enough against Mortality.

Like the cover of an old book

its contents torn out,and stripped of its lettering and gilding,

now food for worms.

But his gifting and mania shall not be wholly lost,

for it will, as he believed, appear once more,

in a new and more perfected edition,

corrected and amended

by the Author Who's in dark and silent watch.

Farewell thou goodwill trouble-maker of my right hand.

For why Will I lament the state I should envy?

But oh wicked death, to have so soon scrap'd

him and rend flesh rage, And, if no other

wish, yet, To rest in soft Peace

Fareware, dear commotionist, all knowest teacher

of the forums. The great life is ended.

The great perils, the great joys;

And for he, whom adventures were as toys.

He who seemed to bear a charm 'gainst spear or knife

or bullet, now lies silent from all strife out youder.

Oh singer of revolution, who loved so well

The deathless discord of Nigerian tribes.

He who throw around tribal-racial lute and still would seek

Ever new deeds until the end! Fareware!

Free at last, Free at Last

Thank God Almighty

He's Free at Last.

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The instruction from this double blow is that people need to engage in meaningful activities and moderate frivolities while alive. Forumites tiger about in this forum as if there were no force beyond them. Then waaaam, and they are gone forever. Religion or not, God or not, haven or not, avoid sin and injustice as much as you can while alive. That is the only way to have a restful spirit thereafter. Afis, Jerome, Seyi, and all ye net daredevils, ask not for whom the bell tolls. It may be for you too. The hatred you ooze out in this forum is enough to drown the spirit of the universe. Mend your ways now before it is too late.

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[Wilson Iguade]

Nebukadineze Adiele,

I have been busy getting work done, since my activity in the fora is just an outlet for my "character" to jack off (shoot the breeze). The real me is a leader and a builder in the community and I have worked with many Nigerians I met in the fora on successful projects, thus am NOT some anonymous COWARD in the fora. I can be found and I have no place to run to. I have been a leader and still a leader of 9ja organizations, my point only bastards like you, Nebukadineze Adiele, fucks with me, and I end up teaching them a hard lesson. 

As you know, first hand, since you were part of the internet thugs that have tried to bring me down for doing nothing but standing my ground on issues, and you, Nebukadineze Adiele, like others have ate shits (failed) woefully in your attempts to bring the son of a ghost down. The "son of a ghost" is speaking in code or parable that you cannot understand and I do not intend to decode it for a moron like you. 

My point, I read your nonsense post within past week that you do not read my post (as if I fucking care) but you manage to issue a fucked up challenge to me in a post I've since deleted but took mental note of to reply when I have the time, and now I do. In that post you said that you will be a THIEF, if I post that you fought a madman at a market place. 

I have ACCEPTED your challenge to confirm that you are a THIEF by REPOSTING what you wrote on how you whooped a madman at a market place. See below "repost" with date and time.

Before you read the "repost", let me say that am serious, when I say that as long as people like Nebukadineze Adiele are allowed to advocate for Ndigbo, I doubt seriously if the issues you advocate for would have any credibility, because you, Nebukadineze Adiele, have no credibility whatsoever. None! Zilch! Zero!

To all, when are you guys going to learn that I wrap half my brain when dealing with 99% of you in the fora just to be FAIR. Hehehehe!!!!

Okay, Nebukadineze Adiele read NOW, yours (in BLACK) interspersed with that of Pastor Ken.   

As you wish, after you read you own writing on how you fought a madman, you shall forever remain a THIEF, a LIAR, a THUG and most importantly an EVIL and HATEFUL person. Even Peter Opara does not rise to your level of evil and hatefulness. 

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On Aug 26, 2014, at 8:32 PM, "'KOC' via AfricanWorldForum" <africanw...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Nebu:

Why are you so full of ranting, I mean why are you such an ANGRY man, you show anger each time God or Jesus Christ is mentioned and yet you have shown all that you are an incredibly insecure man. Just check your response to Olugbenga and tell me what necessitated your rants here and there. 

I read someone using the death of another person to give you an advice just as people tend always to do, because death is always a lesson to the living and most of the time it is used to convey message to the living.

But you misconstrue the message to mean that the person was saying or alleging that you will be the next, why are you afraid if you believe in all you have been saying that “the dead will return to nature” as in, “man die go”. You even threatened yourself again that you are considering leaving the forum because of it which you have said countless number of times.

Now to your rebuttal to Olegbenga’s piece, why are you being angry at God for what someone else wrote, despite that what the person wrote was true but did God wrote it, so why is your anger being directed at God as if God is your age mate, can’t you see that you have a deep seated frustration and anger, the type that eats people up and cause them unnecessary health problems.

You are a student of “Google”, so why can’t you google all that the author said and see if those events were reported as events that ACTUALLY took place or not. What he wrote got names of real people, so why can’t you just google, dig deep to find out if those events took place or not.

Had it been that the article is against Jesus Christ and against Christians, you would have believed them without even Googling about it, and if a Christian tend to disprove it, you will go to the Google to unearth everything, so in this instance, if you are an honest man, why can’t you just dig deep, follow it through to find out if those events actually took place or not.

You better tone down on the way you are stretching your nerves because you might cause yourself a nervous breakdown necessitated by unnecessary anger.

Nebu, if I may ask, do you think you have credibility more than those you direct your rants to, if you believe that you got credibility in what you puts out in the forum, you might as well believe your fellow atheist, Vincent Unachukwu, that flying in an airplane and looking out its window would enable him to see where God lives in heaven if He truly exists.

Now let me show you that you are a concocter and first class fabricator, you concoct issues to suit your fancy all in the name of disseminating “credible” information. Thus before you point your fingers at Christians and at the bible, stand before a mirror first and see if you can recognize a monument of concoction. Read yourself below describing the same person on the reason he was mad:

“A few years ago, I was getting into my car at Ama JK, in Owerri. My driver signaled to me to hurry up, an action that prompted me to wonder what could give him the authority and boldness to so command me. I looked around and noticed that there was pandemonium within the vicinity. I thought that armed robbers were menacing (it was about 4 PM). But it was not, for I saw young women (mostly teenagers) running helter-skelter, in obvious fear of their lives and safety. As they ran, they yelled, "Abiodun!, Abiodun!", which was a clarion call, understood by any young woman within the vicinity, that their traducing  nemesis was within reach. 

I had heard the story of Abiodun prior to that day. He was a Yoruba man who was presumed or he pretended to be mad. As a mad man, he terrorized young women in Owerri, especially within the New and Old markets. Donning a make believe puritanical garb, Abioudun would beat up (with sticks as strong and heavy as young tree branches) any young women who wore trousers, had on lipsticks, wore short skirts, etc. If, in his pursuit of young women, he found none, he was known to take his frustration out on any vehicle within his reach. I inquired what people did every time Abiodun assaulted young women in this manner or broke vehicles' windshields and I was responded to in this manner, "What would one do to a mad man, fight him?"

 

I looked forward to meeting this Abiodun, and I would, periodically and for no reason, ask my driver to pass through those markets (an area that is a traffic nightmare) but I never ran into him. On this fateful day, at Ama JK, I felt like I won a lotto. I stopped one of the scampering young ladies and asked her to stand with me. She was terrified, but I assured her of her safety. As predictive as predictions could come, Abiodun came after this young woman.

Before he could unleash any blows on her, I yelled at him to stop his move. You need to have seen the expression on his face. He was livid and felt humiliated that someone was interfering with his mission -- no one had ever done that to him. In impeccable Igbo, he asked if that day was my desired date of death. I told him that it was probably his and was likely to be if he made the wrong move. 

He tried to physically assault me and in self defense, I inflicted reasonable pains on him, eventually decking him. As he laid on that ground, I excoriated all the men within the vicinity, who would see such an abomination go on in Igbo land and allow it to stand. Abioudun was now a defeated thug and I got him to promise never to terrorize young women or anybody in Owerri, and he did so. I was thanked by all the young women within the vicinity and I assured them that they had just been emancipated from a misogynistic terrorist thug.

As my driver drove off, I looked back through the rear windshield and noticed that Abiodun fell back on the ground after I had dragged him around and had him apologize to the young ladies individually. I ordered him to backup, he did and we picked Abiodun up, took him to my brother's clinic where he was medically treated, given water to bathe (something he had not done in ages), fed, and clothed properly. The next day, my brother told me that Abiodun was not insane at all”  Nebukadineze Adiele

Take note that you said specifically that the madman started working for you thereafter which meant that you must have known the reason for his madness as you tell below:

“To make a long story short, Abiodun was being a thug because he could get away with it. Today, this Ondo born civil engineer works for me in Owerri. After his Youth Service in Owerri (in 1984), he fell in love with the city and the people but he fell by the wayside economically. To escape the reality of his inability to make it professionally and financially, he feigned insanity and paraded himself as a mad man. In August 1997, I became his Guardian Angel” Nebukadineze Adiele

In the above you told your audience the reason why the madman turned mad but read yourself again below in another of your write up about the same “Abiodun” the madman, when you have forgotten what you concocted earlier about as the reason if his madness and him working for you. Read:

“For example, I did not tell why Abiodun was playing crazy for over two years, beating up women (hint to the dummy: Abiodun's parents always objected to his marrying an Igbo woman. His mother warmed up to her only son's desire after his persistence. In 1996 Abiodun took his Igbo fiance to Akure to meet his parents. His father poisoned the young woman that night. His mother ratted out his father as poisoning the girl. His father, in a rage (how dare a woman reveal his secret) slew his mother instantly. Abiodun returned with his fiance's body to Owerri and afterwards became a desolate man)” Nebukadineze Adiele

So Nebu, what exactly constituted madness to “Abiodun” the madman who was / is your employee at Owerri “today”? Was he mad because “he fell by the wayside economically” as you said, or was it because “his father poisoned Abiodun’s fiancée and slew Abiodun’s mother in the process causing Abiodun to return to Owerri with the dead body of his fiancée” as you also said.

So which one be which Mr. Story teller, you will be the one to call people liars but just read yourself in an effort to impress the audience that you know what you are talking about and that you heard from the horse’s mouth and that you were personally involved because you employed the “madman” to work for you.

[Wilson Iguade]

Ukachukwu,

You damn right! That's my leadership, don't like it, screw you. What is your fucking leadership? Tell us. 

When your poke mate Nebu was bragging with his writing all over the fora that he beat a mad man to cure the insanity in that mad man, literally a mad man according to your poke mate, Nebu - not me - where the fuck where you and how did you apply or use your leadership, Ukachukwu?

Nebu in his own words, nobody FORCED or put a gun to his filthy head to write what he wrote, you, Ukachukwu (on the receiving end of your poke mate) did not questioned the sanity or leadership of Nebu just because he pokes the living shit out of your ass. Fuck y'all. 

Nebu is a beast and a fucking liar and truly EVIL. IF you know how Nebu has destroyed or tried to destroy people's lives, such as Emeka Ugwuonye, Esq., myself, and others (will not give another name because he is Yoruba that Nebu has tried tirelessly to destroy to no avail, because I know that you (Ukachukwu) are too fucked up to see beyond your Igbo nose) you would not be questioning my leadership. 

By the way, it is okay to question any leadership, as long as you are informed, which is my purpose to you, Ukachukwu, educate you to do the fucking right thing, not indulge in your madness just for the sake of Igboness.

Finally, did your poke mate, Nebu not challenge me to a duel by saying I should post evidence that he wrote he fought a mad man, I mean truly a MADMAN according Nebu himself at Owerri market? Yes, he fucking did, thus, as he asked for he is a THIEF of all colors. Let Nebu lie that he did not write what he wrote, REPOSTED below. 

Again, y'all quit challenging me because every time you do so I fucking rise to it, and you eat crow. Enuff said. "I"

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On Oct 6, 2014, at 4:09 AM, "'Chris Ukachukwu' via OkonkwoNetworks" <okonkwo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

This is a novel and creative way to showcase your leadership qualities. Very interesting!

 

C. Ukachukwu

"Class, race, sexuality, gender and all other categories by which we categorize and dismiss each other need to be excavated from the inside."
- Dorothy Allison

"There is some good in the worst of us and some evil in the best of us.
When we discover this, we are less prone to hate our enemies."

- Martin Luther King, Jr.

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He said he lives two lives: one " jacks off" on these I- pages, and the other that covers up all that. That is Iguade , folks.

What a guy!!!!

OE.

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This is a novel and creative way to showcase your leadership qualities. Very interesting!

 

C. Ukachukwu

"Class, race, sexuality, gender and all other categories by which we categorize and dismiss each other need to be excavated from the inside."
- Dorothy Allison

"There is some good in the worst of us and some evil in the best of us.
When we discover this, we are less prone to hate our enemies."

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[Wilson Iguade]

(Note: OE this is the last time I would ever mention your name now that I have been made to believe that you are a fucking bastard that is ashamed to use the name your parents gave you for fear of being exposed)

Ukachukwu and "fake" OE,

Yes I kiss Ukachukwu's mama with that mouth and I jack off on OE's mama at the same fucking time. That is the 2 lives I live and fucking proud of it. Don't like it, delete my message or go fuck yourself. Am I begging you to read my messages? Heck fucking no!

Listen, Nebukadineze Adiele and Seyi Awofeso have destroyed the fora when they started with me more than 5 years ago by rubbishing my name with any "Iguade" name that can be dug up on the internet and falsely accusing me of being those different "Iguades" at different places I have NOT or have never resided at. Even Afis, jumped in at the time, just to support a Yoruba man, Seyi Awofeso to rubbish the name "Iguade", and this fucker, Afis, did not even know who I am, and still does not.

Well, guess what! Today a group that call itself DIAN has gone after Afis and his children/wife, and now going after another forumite and his children. You guys laughed at me when it happened to me and kept your silence. Well, today, DIAN is coming after you and it is my turn to laugh, just as I was laughing when they went after Afis and his family. Yes, it is a sad laugh, but you guys kept quiet when I was highlighted falsely. Yes, few people came to my support that is why am so forever appreciative of these individuals.

My point, thanks to Nebukadineze Adiele and Seyi Awofeso for destroying the fora. How shameless we have travelled that today some of us have resulted to oppression or wicked tactical intimidation in the fora. And, Ukachukwu is concerned about me using, what some will call curse words, same words used on your fucking TVs and radios in the USA. Have you listen to some of the Sirius stations or cable channels? If you have you would appreciate my kind and lovely use of the phrase - fuck ya'all (Ukachukwu and OE).

Yes, am two faced according to OE, don't like me, screw you. Am not in the fora to make friends, am not that lonely or needy like a fucking fake ass like you, OE. OE is such as bastard, he is too ashamed to use his real name. God go punish you for letting down your parents by hiding from using your real name. Bye! "I"

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Whoa! Do you kiss your momma with that mouth, Chief? Easy o! We don't want high BP or any more strokes. Abeg, take am easy o. Take 2 weeks off and go to Nike Lake resort or Hawaii whichever is closer. There's life outside these cyber yards. Geez!

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[daniel Akusobi]

Enough of some of these bickering here. Our discusses have degenerated into dog fights and PhDs ( pull him down).
These men here,   a lot of us, including me sometimes , seem to have no other life outside this forum.
Here are some of our recent battle fields;
Ken vs Nebu. Afis vs Nebu.
Wilson vs Nebu. Ayo vs ndi Igbo and Nebu. Yakubu Jerome vs his fellow Igbos. Ozodi Osuji vs Agazie. Nebu vs Ozodigbo Osuji. Nebu vs Aluko's employee lawyer, Mobolaji Vs Nebu, Nebu vs all the mad people at Ama JK by Royce road Owerri, and Dan vs all that are this much against their fellows.
There cannot be any fun in a fight, especially these types here. We are rather creating more enemies for ourselves . Instead of debates that enlighten us, like the who released Awo , we just had.
Some, self  called super cerebral , have chosen to comb every sentence by others for misplaced punctuations and typos. What is the point in all these other than to put out some pride in a fellow. 
We have decelerated into hate mongering and excruciating  acts of hatred. Soon we will be wondering why Nigeria is how we are as a country. Is it not same specie of humans , people like some of us here that are our leaders at home or would be.

Some of us here that  fight may be using here as a  sort of diversion from some of their mental tortures related to possible frustrations over the side effects of some of the pills we must take to live. Some are Viagra that failed to work or contraindicated. Cialis that cause sleep instead. Some anti- blood pressure pills that cause a need for Viagra and cialis, or blood sugar control problems that numb the cap of the penis or the "going " concerns ( prostate problems) some of us , 50 years and more, do have .
Some are related to bad wife problems.
There are countless other reasons we nag here and take out our frustrations on Nebu Adiele and others. These cannot be healthy, they are rather  active mental poisoning we inflict on each other. That leaves me wondering if Nebu won't tag us mentally sick so he would tackle and subdue us, then hire us. Or Jerome Iyang, ropa m for our neck or parcel us to his brothers in Benue for Boka Haram to rape.

There is a good use and need for spending pure time here than in a bar. One is that the cost of a 2 hour stay in a motel in New Jersey, Jerome's neighborhood, has gone from $40 to $50 excluding tax and tips.
Another, it is tough to find a pace setter lady, like the Nigeria woman recently shaping our sex culture in the North East and all African enclaves in the USA through her video.
We should be finding some fun in our discusses. Ikenna and this writer used to interlace our self made headaches here with some ting of adult talks. That met some huddles from our most certified pretenders here like Ken . Did we improve after the juice was deleted from here?. No. We are rather being flooded with thoughts and curses that make our individual health situations worse.

There are a lot of fun to be found on our TV screens, than here.
Find them on your dials. Family Feud is one. Another is Jerry springer's baggage. Am watching "the baggage" now and laughing my heart off. That has become more therapeutic than reading some of the hate filled rants on Osuji, Nebu, Afis and Agazie.

Other diversions:

Find a woman to tickle,  the types that charge some money for service,  if you are one of us, no woman would take for a kobo or like I do, watch family feud and baggage with your wife, and cause her a longer sleep time thereafter, ( you know what I mean).
These acts work better and make us better lovers than haters.
Good night and please do not ignore our responsibility to take care of our female folks needs for caring whispers and touch, I mean, make the ladies around us feel needed. They need such attention and they expect it from us since it is not usual for a lot of our female folks to seek out on donkeys or rubber toys.

Doing so, I mean, caring for our female mates,  is a sanctioned and blessed work of mercy. God loves lovers, especially lovers of WOMEN.
My feelings and care not where I go when I die. I know where already.
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Dan,

This forum is an equalizer, that is why a misfit like Iguade thinks that he and I could exchange words. Tufiakwa!

Iguade lied that I wrote of having wrestled a mad man in Owere. Nothing like that happened, so how could I have written what he claimed? Nevertheless, I challenged him to post what he claimed that I wrote to that effect or answer to being a thief, a perception of him harbored by most people. What he posted below says nothing about me wrestling a mad man. In fact, if he could read English language and understand a narrative, it would have dawned on him that no mad man was involved in the true story that I narrated.

For failing to produce evidence of his stupid lie against me, Iguade has acknowledge that he is a thief and so shall he be perceived. Let me also add that if I ever catch Iguade physically and mentally torturing teenage girls, I will mete out to him the same treatment that I meted out to the fellow in that story. That is a promise that must be kept. 

As for Ken Okey, he has a depraved fixation on me, probably because I spotted him out of his Christian charlatanism. He lies too much and distorts what he reads very shamelessly. He is exceptionally unreasonable and for that, I blocked his email address from sending any mail to me long ago (I did similarly to Iguade and a few other reprobate punks here). I did not even know that KOC wrote something this fraudulent and malicious about me. 

I understand your frustration with the caliber of discussion that now pervades the forums but you have to be objective in denouncing it. I do neither read from nor respond to Iguade, Ken Oke, and Ozodiobi Osuji (I have even asked them severally to not read and respond to me) but they keep responding to what I wrote that had nothing to do with them. Oke and Iguade insulted me over things I wrote to others, not to them. Osuji insulted me while he was responding to Agazie, even though I had forgotten that he existed for almost a year now. 

I accept that I can be combative and that my responses can be acerbic but I must not fail to indicate that I never seek trouble. The other day, I made a response to Afis but Okoi Obono-Obla jumped in and called me an idiot, a mad man, and other unspeakable names. I responded to him in kind but my response was all that people talked about. For my response to Okoi, Ayo Ojutalayo called me all sorts of names and insulted my father too. He was lucky that I did not see that mail until I embarked on my current trip outside of the US (and as such have no time for petty people at the moment). Had I seen it and responded to him, people would only be talking about my response and not his unprovoked tirades against me. I am being pilloried for correcting Osuji's exceptionally poor grammar but I did that about four days after he, without provocation, humiliated Dr Agazie by correcting his sentences that needed no corrections. Not satisfied with grtuitously humiliating Agazie, he poked fun at my writing skill, even though I had posted nothing on the forums for about three days prior. Why didn't folks here denounce him for doing that to Agazie and why is my having done it to him unjust? This type of hypocrisy irritates me, bro. 

The point I am making, nwanna, is that there is a pattern to the madness going on here and to which you are lamenting. Your lamentation is that we all have sinned and come short of our statuses and ages. That may be true but I implore you to think deeper than that. If these bums are dreaming of annoying me, up to driving me out of the forums, I am confidently telling them to dream on and even if they never wake up again, I shall go nowhere and I shall not relent in standing against thoughtlessness. 

Anyway, take care for now.    

Nebukadineze Adiele
Organized religion sired irrationality.

[Ezeana Igirigi Achusim]

Nebu:

It is a relief to know that it is only on these forums that you get to interact with some characters that you know you will never have to deal with in real life. Can you imagine going to Sunday afternoon community organization meeting and characters like some of these are there and someone is trying to make sense of what is going on? And after the meeting you wonder why you left home to begin with? And some folks keep yelling that the organization is not making any headway? 

Ok. Close your eyes for a minute. You are in this Nigeria organization meeting. You are a member. Iguade is a member. Throw in a few other characters from these forums as members. Now, open your eyes. What do you say other than tufiakwa?

And I am

Ezeana Igirigi Achusim

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[Ayo Ojutalayo]

"For my response to Okoi, Ayo Ojutalayo called me all sorts of names and insulted my father too. He was lucky that I did not see that mail until I embarked on my current trip outside of the US (and as such have no time for petty people at the moment). Had I seen it and responded to him, people would only be talking about my response and not his unprovoked tirades against me." . . . . Nebukadineze Adiele

Nebu,

Now that you have seen where Ayo Ojutalayo called you names and insulted your father, you can save it and respond to it when you are back from your trip. Ayo Ojutalayo is eagerly awaiting for why your father is not a monster if you, his son, could call Awo a monster. Show us your manners, and we will tell you the kind of father you have.

Ayo Ojutalayo

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[Ayo Ojutalayo]

We are rather creating more enemies for ourselves . Instead of debates that enlighten us, like the who released Awo , we just had." 

. . . Daniel Akusobi

Daniel,

I thought you were one of the people that called the "who released Awo" debate a "tribal war" and initially tried to join the "war"? I am happy if you later found the debate enlightened. That was why I spent so much time on the debate.

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[Wilson Iguade]

Nebukadineze Adiele,

What makes you think I wanna talk to a truly MAD man like you. Listen! You were the one to poke your nose into my business when you do not fucking know me. 

I do not want to focus on defending myself right now, but to focus on how you are truly EVIL and a true hypocrite and a Thief. Your father is a thief, and your mother is a true "ho!" for denying that you did not write the following, below, in quote. Also, how can any person that understand English not understand that you wrote how you fought a madman at Owerri MARKET.

I just read Dr. Osuji asking you to tell us where you went to undergraduate and law school(s). Seriously, where is your law license since there is no records of you in New York and or with the America Bar Association, where the fuck is your law license from? You bloody thief. Seriously, where did you go to law school, because there is no records of you anyway in America as a lawyer or maybe am not spelling your name correctly. Prove me wrong, Nebukadineze Adiele, or remain a bona fide THIEF and a son of a whore.

God will punish you for all the lies and how you have destroyed people's' live with your incompetencies and lies in the fora.

Y'all read how Nebukadineze Adiele fought a madman at Owerri market. It is a REPOST

Quote by Nebukadineze Adiele 

A few years ago, I was getting into my car at Ama JK, in Owerri. My driver signaled to me to hurry up, an action that prompted me to wonder what could give him the authority and boldness to so command me. I looked around and noticed that there was pandemonium within the vicinity. I thought that armed robbers were menacing (it was about 4 PM). But it was not, for I saw young women (mostly teenagers) running helter-skelter, in obvious fear of their lives and safety. As they ran, they yelled, "Abiodun!, Abiodun!", which was a clarion call, understood by any young woman within the vicinity, that their traducing  nemesis was within reach. 

I had heard the story of Abiodun prior to that day. He was a Yoruba man who was presumed or he pretended to be mad. As a mad man, he terrorized young women in Owerri, especially within the New and Old markets. Donning a make believe puritanical garb, Abioudun would beat up (with sticks as strong and heavy as young tree branches) any young women who wore trousers, had on lipsticks, wore short skirts, etc. If, in his pursuit of young women, he found none, he was known to take his frustration out on any vehicle within his reach. I inquired what people did every time Abiodun assaulted young women in this manner or broke vehicles' windshields and I was responded to in this manner, "What would one do to a mad man, fight him?"

 

I looked forward to meeting this Abiodun, and I would, periodically and for no reason, ask my driver to pass through those markets (an area that is a traffic nightmare) but I never ran into him. On this fateful day, at Ama JK, I felt like I won a lotto. I stopped one of the scampering young ladies and asked her to stand with me. She was terrified, but I assured her of her safety. As predictive as predictions could come, Abiodun came after this young woman.

Before he could unleash any blows on her, I yelled at him to stop his move. You need to have seen the expression on his face. He was livid and felt humiliated that someone was interfering with his mission -- no one had ever done that to him. In impeccable Igbo, he asked if that day was my desired date of death. I told him that it was probably his and was likely to be if he made the wrong move. 

He tried to physically assault me and in self defense, I inflicted reasonable pains on him, eventually decking him. As he laid on that ground, I excoriated all the men within the vicinity, who would see such an abomination go on in Igbo land and allow it to stand. Abioudun was now a defeated thug and I got him to promise never to terrorize young women or anybody in Owerri, and he did so. I was thanked by all the young women within the vicinity and I assured them that they had just been emancipated from a misogynistic terrorist thug.

As my driver drove off, I looked back through the rear windshield and noticed that Abiodun fell back on the ground after I had dragged him around and had him apologize to the young ladies individually. I ordered him to backup, he did and we picked Abiodun up, took him to my brother's clinic where he was medically treated, given water to bathe (something he had not done in ages), fed, and clothed properly. The next day, my brother told me that Abiodun was not insane at all”  Nebukadineze Adiele

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[Wilson Iguade]

Screw you, Ukachukwu, so am stressed! What do you fucking care, suppose that is the case? Are you raising money to care for me? See how stupid your comment is, only a stress fuck up like you can identify stress situations. 

Just because am passionate does not connote stress, of course, as I said it takes one to know one. You must be under stress, if so go fucking jack off. 

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On Oct 7, 2014, at 9:38 AM, "Chris Ukachukwu" <c_uka...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Wil I,

I haven't been hanging out around here as you have and unfortunately I am not familiar with the history you cite. You are definitely stressed (and it may have little to do with cyberspace).

You sound like an adolescent that has just moved away from his parents and is basking in his newfound "freedom" to smoke, throw the f-bomb and "do grown up" things. Easy bro. 

If one benign comment from me on your leadership claim got you completely and hopelessly undone like this, then I recommend you take a long break from these cyber lounges. I do think you need a little relief to avoid self-combustion. You are simply wound too tight and about to go poof. Take it easy, sly.

Nigerians who are supposed to be giddy enjoying this wonderful country they asked for, fought to keep one and are dizzy in love with, are showing signs of hyper stress and instead of fighting the powers that have turned their utopian country into a concentration camp and have treated them worse than an occupied people, they look for fellow compatriots to annihilate with harsh words and harsher acts whenever they can manage it. Comical!

[Wilson Iguade]

Exactly! Well said Ayo.

I too awaits Nebu's action as indicated by Ayo's below. 

I know the results though. Cowards like Nebu can only bark, when cornered, they turn tails and run, as he is doing now. Running with excuse to be leaving the country that Ayo has called him on. Let's see what Nebukadineze Adiele the punk does, upon his returns. 

Peace! 

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[Ayo Ojutalayo]

"As a mad man, he terrorized young women in Owerri, especially within the New and Old markets. Donning a make believe puritanical garb, Abioudun would beat up (with sticks as strong and heavy as young tree branches) any young women who wore trousers, had on lipsticks, wore short skirts, etc. If, in his pursuit of young women, he found none, he was known to take his frustration out on any vehicle within his reach. I inquired what people did every time Abiodun assaulted young women in this manner or broke vehicles' windshields and I was responded to in this manner, "What would one do to a mad man, fight him?" . . . Nebukadineze Adiele

Truly, Nebu referred to the man as "a mad man". And he later in the piece claimed the mad man " . . .  tried to physically assault me and in self defense, I inflicted reasonable pains on him, eventually decking him. As he laid on that ground, I excoriated all the men within the vicinity, who would see such an abomination go on in Igbo land and allow it to stand." Nebu in his own words said he fought with a mad man "within the New and Old markets".  Nebu as usual lied when he later said he did not fight the mad man. Nebu is a pathological lier.

 

Ayo Ojutalayo

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[Wilson Iguade]

Ayo Ojutalayo,

May your tribe increase for being independent, objective, and impartial. 

Enuff said on my part for now. God bless. "I"

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Truly, Nebu referred to the man as "a mad man". And he later in the piece claimed the mad man " . . .  tried to physically assault me and in self defense, I inflicted reasonable pains on him, eventually decking him. As he laid on that ground, I excoriated all the men within the vicinity, who would see such an abomination go on in Igbo land and allow it to stand." Nebu in his own words said he fought with a mad man "within the New and Old markets".  Nebu as usual lied when he later said he did not fight the mad man. Nebu is a pathological lier.

 

Ayo Ojutalayo

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[afis]

Nebukadneze was only telling a tall tale when he narrated his tale about wrestling a mad man. It is you guys on cyber that take him seriously. 

Nebu Later recanting was not a lie, THAT WAS THE REAL TRUTH.........NEBU NEVER BEAT UP ANY YORUBA MAD MAN.

Let's check it out by chewing it in our mouths and see it tastes: 

A mad man in Igboland on the rampage terrorizing Igbo women in Igboland, just happened to coincidentally went into his stock-in-trade of terrorizing women, just when Nebukadneze happened to be passing by. 

And this Nebu had been known to denigrate Yoruba people. 

And that particular day, it was a Yoruba, of all the 270 Tribes in Nigeria, it was this lonely mad Yoruba, a man from Nebu's favorite chewing gum-Yoruba Tribe that chose that day to be pummeled to dust, by no other Igbo than the Hater of his Yoruba Tribe.

The mad man should go play lotto, it was his lucky day to become Famous.

Too long a Tall tale from the Igbo Crypt.

You guys don't get it when these Igbo boys are sweetening their mouths with saccharin........It sounds sweet and tastes sweet, but always leaves a bitter taste later in the mouth.

I would have believed this story more if Chukwuma Agwunobi had told it, of course, in his unusual mad man's rendition of Igbo Tales from the Crypt.

At least my brain cells would have warned me beforehand to just "humor along" the Onyeoshi boy!

SHIKENA,

Afis

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[Afis]

Nebukadneze was only telling a tall tale when he narrated his tale about wrestling a mad man. It is you guys on cyber that take him seriously. 

Nebu Later recanting was not a lie, THAT WAS THE REAL TRUTH.........NEBU NEVER BEAT UP ANY YORUBA MAD MAN.

Let's check it out by chewing it in our mouths and see HOW it tastes: 

A mad Yoruba man in Igboland on the rampage terrorizing Igbo women in Igboland, just happened to coincidentally went into his stock-in-trade of terrorizing women, just when Nebukadneze happened to be passing by. 

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[daniel Akusobi]

Willie,
  You have continued to sound angry and caustic in most of your recent postings here and with regards to your thoughts of Nebu.
Your language, your choice of  ghetto street curse words and phrases is casually degrading of a grown man we believe you are .  Please bro, pipe it down , especially on your choice of street words because some of our children are reading some of our vomits here.
Nebu , like you and some others are not the saints we have been expecting.
He is in fact one of the most predictable writers here and nothing  about him should be sticky on any skin.
He owns up most of his intolerance and would diagnose himself before you come up with any label on him.

He made this statement earlier today:     " .  I accept that I can be combative and that my responses can be acerbic but I must not fail to indicate that I never seek ......." ( Nebu).
My interpretation of his self appraisal is he cares less about anyone's irk over his opinions or acts when he believes he is pushing back as much or harder than the perpetrator.

You must be wasting your emotions 
and denying yourself some pleasure if you continue fighting someone that quickly appreciates his shortcomings or apologises in earnest.  
Watch Steve Harvey, Family Feud, and let the infectious joy the contestants, especially the ladies emit be your emollient tonight .
Dan. 

[daniel Akusobi]

Nebu explained that the mad man was not actually  clinically mad. That he faked his "mad" behaviours.
Dan

[Wilson Iguade]

Daniel Akusobi,

Just to be clear, am confident you are not speaking to me, because my name is Wilson Iguade.

Also, I noticed that you are quick to defend Nebu Adiele which is your fucking rights. If you mention my name be warned that I reserved all my rights to express myself in any manner that tickles my fantasy. Regards. "I"

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Willie,
  You have continued to sound angry and caustic in most of your recent postings here and with regards to your thoughts of Zebu.

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[Wilson Iguade]

Daniel,

Not only did Nebu had the competency to declared that a person was mad, he fought the mad man he declared mad and cured that mad man from insanity. And, now, according to Daniel declared that same mad man "not actually clinically mad", Hehehehe! 

Daniel, you too are getting ridiculous. You and Nebu have the powers or competencies to declare a person mad, then claim that person "was not actually clinically mad." Bullshit!

Okay, if that is the fucking game Daniel And Nebu want to play. I, Wilson Iguade, declare Daniel and Nebu Adiele "actually clinically" mad men!!!

Therefore, I have no reason to listen to Daniel and Nebu Adiele's madness in the fora. If there is any bucket of donation to cure these madmen, Daniel Akusobi and Nebu Adiele so declared by moi, I have 10 cents to contribute to show my appreciation for these punks who think they can declare and undeclared people as "mad". 

To be clear, Daniel and Nebu Adiele are running amuck in the fora declaring people to be mad and undeclaring those once declared mad to NOT be actually clinically mad. Hehehe!

Thus, I should enjoy the same fucking rights, hence I have declared Daniel Akusobi and Nebukadineze Adiele to be actually clinically mad given their conducts in the fora. Fuck these clinically mad men, Daniel Akusobi and Nebukadineze Adiele. Regards. "I"

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[peter opara]

For the first I read the "nebu-fought-a-mad-man RUBBISH.

Hey, bloody folks, I will do exactly what Nebu did to this crazy like a fox creature without a second thought.

If he was large man, I'd go get large young men to beat the crap out of his, so the fox does not continue to harass, intimidate and terrorize the population especially females.

What Nebu did was Numero Uno Public Service. Nebu saved the community from a terrorist.

Now, I read this friend to druggies, dim wit  IGUN IGUANA wilson iguade,  pit latrine mouth, a skunk who mentions his daughter and F-word in the same sentence yakking rubbish about Nebu fighting a mad man. Nonsense.

If it is a fight a mad man deserves to quit terrorizing a population, I will have no qualms giving it to him, and in doing that I must ensure that he is deprived of whatever he has to ever harass the community ever again.

Nebu is my kind of man who grants no leeway to miscreants who exhibit their wares in assorted fashion. And the beaten mad man epitomized a jolly miscreant allowed for too long to hawk his stinking wares for a long while.

Nebu stopped him. Bravo to Nebu.

Is not the world full of e nor concern me folks? It is none of my business blokes. Many of us are e nor concern me folks; it is none of my business folks. But for some of us whatever touches the wider community touches us. You may say, in our own naive fashion we place our neat selves on the line, even in the gutter to save the world, to defend the defenseless.

Who needs to be told such is Godly?

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[peter opara]

It sure will mean the end of the world when retards and tribe so increase. Retards. IGUN IGUANA skunk mouth wilson iguade;. retard ayo ojutalayo. God forbid.

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[Ayo Ojutalayo]

"As a  mad man, he terrorized young women in Owerri, especially within the New and Old markets." . . . . Nebukadineze Adiele

Pater Opara, yours is understandable . . .  after all, you are the Deputy Ikemba of Lunatics. Seeing you fight a mad man at the market place should surprise no one.

Ayo Ojutalayo

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[Wilson Iguade]

Peter Opara,

Why would you not wrestle for real, a madman at Owerri market? I expect that from you since you are a madman yourself. 

Peter Opara who is really a homosexual, dim wit, and a maggot who mentions his mother and prostitution (a female dog) in the same fucking sentence.

Yes, Peter Opara is yakking rubbish about Nebu fighting a mad man. Imagine! these people taking badges of honor in bragging about truly actually taking turns in fighting a madman at Owerri market! Wow! Igbo culture must be screwy for its people to be bragging about fighting a madman at marketplace, seriously! 

Where is their history/cultural teacher to teach these idiots that even primitive civilization does not descend that low. Tufiaka 

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[Wilson Iguade]

Peter Opara,

Your tribe is decreasing every day! Go figure! But, don't look too far, start with you because cock lovers like you are the reason, Tufiaka! 

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[KOC]

Nwannaa Chukwuma,

Well, this is a public forum thus may not necessary need someone to directly respond to one or direct his posting to you before you respond. Having cleared this I will not hesitate to tell you that Nebu has at numerous times responded to me when my piece was not directed to him but perhaps directed at Buhari  et al, but like I said, it is his right to respond to whatever he deems fit in a public forum.

Perhaps you may not have been reading but I personally know that I have written several articles against Buhari’s presidential aspiration and Nebu would pounce on it to call me a liar and all that pleases him, it fazes me not because he got right to do so in an open forum. I also know that I have written things bothering on Christianity  and Nebu will rebut and tell how ignorant I was blah blah blah, like I said he got every right to rebut and disagree but where his right stops is where mine starts to rebut and disagree with him.

I’m a Christian and when he attacks Christianity and tends to bandy unadulterated lies, I will have to respond to him and I have every right to do so in an open forum. Imagine that he would read books written by men and he will start bandying such stories to trash the bible and to him everything make sense to him, no one will talk or disagree because Nebukadineze Eze Babylon has spoken. Chei ihe N’eme!

Mind you that the article in question that you read now was posted by me months ago specifically to point him to his double speak and I have even forgotten about it, someone just unearthed it for the purpose of excerpting or quoting me and as you may know, people got the right to unearth and quote even years old submission.

When you say that I do not see anything good in whatever he writes, you are either being economical with the truth or totally ignorant of the true situation because I have agreed with some of his writings and even quoted him positively sometimes. 

But one sure thing is that I don’t need to place my agreeing with him and disagreeing with him side by side to know which outdo the other, that I agree with him on some issues does not mean that I will not disagree with him on those that he miss-stepped. Like Peter said which is true, I know that Nebu is equal to the task as well to tear me bombastically into shreds with Queen vernacular (LOL), which he has done time and time again, but who cares or gives a hoot, at one point he has even gone to the extent of following or trailing my IP address for which his compass stopped in China prompting Nebu to declare that I was residing or is it hiding and writing from China. LOL!

I laughed when you said that I may attack you that you do the same to Mobolaji Aluko, no my brother I will not attack you because you got every right to disagree with him and to attack him if what he writes did not sit well with you.

Do you know that when I read Nebu exonerating Buhari for everything that the man does and even calling me a liar on top of it even when I presented evidences on the reason why I’m against the man, and even when he Nebu has at one time agreed that Buhari erred by using a retroactive law, yet he will say that in all that I say against Buhari that I have not presented one single truth, in this I can’t help but respond to the dude. 

Sometimes I can’t even imagine why the dude would be attacking me endlessly because of a politician who said he wants to be my president of which I got every right to either accept or reject him. But on the reverse I reckoned that it is his right to defend anyone he wants to defend and attack anyone he wants to attack.

I’m not weakening Nebu in any way, I remember when he said something against an Igbo and when prompted he said somewhat that ethnicity will not blind him into not telling the truth, so you can see that my redirecting him will in no way weaken him. 

Did you read him recently rubbish an entire Igbo town and when he was directed to the blunder, he stood his ground that what he wrote is the truth, tell me how on earth an entire town or even half the town would be bad as the dude painted.

I almost LOL uncontrollably when you said, “You are attacking him too much and he kept quiet and never cared to respond to you” Chukwuma

Well Igbo got a saying that “show me means Gosim”, so let me just show you a little bit because it is evident that you do not know:

“…demented fried brains of a lying scum bag, Ken Okey. Some members of these forums are so wretched in thought, fraudulent in articulation, and patently subhuman in deeds that I never read anything they write, hence their email addresses are confined to my SPAM folder. Ken Okey is on top of the list of worthless creatures whose childish drivels I never dignify, for I never read them. I do not belong to the forums to where he posts his drivels, so even if I respond to any of his diatribes, my responses will not make it into those forums” Nebukadineze on January 2011

“Were hell fire not a myth, this shameless liar and thoughtless semi-literate, Ken Okey, would be roasting in hell for ever and ever, exchanging smokes through his charred nostrils with his grand daddy, Lucifer. I cannot think of any Nigerian on these forums who is not only devilish in concocting falsehood, but also exceptionally childish in thought, than Ken Okey. And he did not fail to be his devious self in his piece, to which you responded and kindly copied to me” Nebukadineze

I just show you a little bit, and why was he ranting on the above, it was because I said that he was stylishly and indirectly going against Emeka Ugwuoyne during the Emeka and Nigerian ambassador saga which was nothing but the truth, even though at the later stage he somewhat reversed. The problem is that Nebu seem to be struggling with amnesia, if not he should have understood that it is waste of time and effort throwing tantrums when he knows too well that tantrums can’t stop me from responding to mails I want to respond to in the forum. 

Did you read all what he said above, if someone should call him half of all the above, 911 may be dialed for emergency because he will be so fuming that his blood pressure may rise to a disturbing degree?

If there is anybody that is keeping quiet, bros that person is me, if you had noticed I counter Nebu mostly with his own writing but the dude curses and attack me endlessly, the reason why I excerpted this is to tell you that Nebu has been attacking, cursing and insulting me from time immemorial, so with this evidence you can see vividly now that you are wrong in your assumption. 

The said encounter with a madman was his own write-up, what I excerpted was where he narrated two different and opposite reasons the man went mad, 

Nwannaa, that was both a fabrication and a concoction and when he started calling Christians names and saying that bible was somewhat concocted I decided to ask him to stand before the mirror and see if he could recognize concoction personified.

I even read where he said that he has forgotten when he wrote the article in question and that he would find and post it in full, well if he want the full article I may help him post the entire article but he shouldn’t cover his face in shame if all the article are posted. In that article per say I did not even deal with wrestling the madman, rather I just pointed him to his double speak, on a day that the issue of wrestling the madman will take the center stage I will have questions to ask him and whether he provide answer or not I will tell him what I think.

“Nwanna KOC, please use your writing skills to respond to all these Igbo haters distorting the Biafra War story just like Nwanna Asagwara, Nwanna Obi Nwakanma, Ihemele, Ogbunwezeh and others does. I never read you write pim to address the attacks on Igbo’s by Efulefu Igbokwe, Osu-Ji, Ikenna Anuoffia Anokute and Josef Onuoikpu but you focused your attention on Nwa Adiele” Chukwuma

I don’t have much to say on this because it may be that you set your mailbox to receiving only mails from me that is directed towards Nebukadineze, even at that, the setting may be wrong because the mail you are responding to now, like I said was an old mail posted months ago but was only quoted by somebody. Like I said, if perhaps you don’t program your mailbox on receiving only mails I post with something about Nebukadineze, you shouldn’t have said the above.

Everybody has their way of responding to issues, when I see a lie swimming afloat I do not even require anybody to be onboard with me before responding and I do so as a matter of how my conscience leads me.

“You attacking him for using Ogbunigwe Grammar, you attack him for Religion, you attack him on Buhari. You attack him for responding to NOYO. You attack him about Owerri episode with a fake madman which his enemies pounced on” Chukwuma

You are a bit wrong here, your message should read, “he attacks me on Buhari” and not the other way round. By the way when I respond to his mail I do not do so because he responded to Noyo but because of a particular comment he made about the bible, I have told him several times that if he is not a hypocrite he should also attack Mohammed and Quran as he do to Jesus Christ and the bible breathlessly. On the Owerri episode, I did not attack him, I quoted him verbatim and I don’t know how that is construed to mean an attack or when did quoting someone started to mean an attack on the person.

“What you are doing was what made Igbo’s to lose the war. They were doing Eye service, blaming Nzeogwu and Ifeajuna after the January 1966 coup after reading poisonous articles about the coup by the Ngbati, Ngbati Press instead of responding to it” Chukwuma

If we should take the above to be true then you are very much guilty as well because you have attacked (disagreed with) even your own town people (individually) relentlessly and always attack Nnewi people or are they not Ndi Igbo as well, if attacking a fellow Onye Igbo means the above to you, then you are equally guilty and Nebukadineze who attacks me and many other Igbo relentlessly is also leading the pack.

The truth is that what I do with Nebu is not an attack but disagreement, when he writes something I deem not to be true I disagree with him and that is what you equally do most of the time, disagree with people and their thought process, so you are wrong that I’m attacking Nebu.

One thing is certain, that as far as Nebu will continue to disseminate his thoughts and ideas on issues like Christianity etc I will also continue to proffer my opinion on countering him and what he said and if need be, will disagree with him.

Nebu sometimes allow his mouth to go before him thus making it possible for him to commit blunders and when he is quoted he will get upset, but one clear thing is that I will not because he got upset stop quoting him and impeaching his innuendos.

“Indeed, Ken Okey was an irritant who I could have dispensed with if I wanted but I elected to ignore him for now” Nebu

If not that I know that the above is plain shakara oloje from Nebukadineze just to show off and let off some steam I would have thought that his nemesis (arrogance) has set in, but the above is such a childish tantrum that start and end up with the self-centeredness of a child, in that case I will allow him to fantasize and feel good about his conjured self importance.

On the other hand if what he meant by “dispensed with” is blocking my email then I give it to him because he has shown that he is a “lion killer” by acting childishly without also making sure that his own mail should not get into my inbox. Yes, he is so bitter and childish that he blocked me with one click but I’m too mature to reciprocate such childish attitude.

Nebu showed high level of childishness to the point that he does not know what pomposity and arrogance means as he exhibit both, arrogance comes in different color and shades, a man who kept telling people that he don’t read their mail as if people will beg him to read their mail is an arrogant individual who is self centered, he believes that he is to important that people will start crying on realizing that he doesn't read their mails.

For the sake of goodness, if you don’t want to read people, don’t come to the forum announcing that you don’t read them or that you blocked them as if you are so important and people will thank you for reading them.

Ignore those you don’t want to read and move on, why announcing it if not to show your importance as if anybody will care that you don’t read him or that you read him. Do you read where he said that I “tag along”, this man is such a blatant liar or else how can he say that, he has been in the forum for long to understand that I do not tag along and do not follow even multitude and at the same time, that I got no control of who will quote my article and who will not.

If the word “irritant” should be brought into this discussion, Nebu should bear it 100% because this dude is an irritant to sound reasoning sometimes, I could not even understand what he assigns to himself or what he assume himself to be, sometimes in an effort to make himself so important he will add a sentence like this in an ongoing subject, “to Mr A” and when I read it I will just laugh and say to myself, “in an open forum?”. For goodness sake, if you want to address people personally just shoot them personal email or you simply use your common sense by saying somewhat, “Mr. A on so and so subject”

Yes, if a subject is ongoing and you want to address what a particular person said, you don’t need to fake or pretend self importance that you are not writing to others but to a particular person when you know that you are in an open forum where people may decide to open and read and respond, in fact no forumite need your excuse or will offer apology to you for opening any message they want to open, read and rebut if they want to. 

“I suspected Odera, Ken Okey (who I believe is Odera, by the way) and Chinwe Enemchukwu for sabotaging me. At that time, they individually and collectively frowned at my insistence that ASAUSA’s money must be returned by its Idi Amin look alike president (I think his name is Nwachukwu Anakwenze or so)” Nebukadineze Adiele

Now I could not stop laughing at Nebu as he reasons like a child, if not because of my Obi Oma, I would have said that Nebukadineze is a direct offspring of the father of all lies whom the bible described in John chapter 8 as the devil, yes, only the devil would concoct and lie with clench teeth as Nebu did above without giving a hoot or showing any sign of shame and if Nebu want to prove me wrong, can he produce just one sentence where I supported, said anything in favor or defended Mazi Anakwenze on that Asa-Usa missing fund.

It was and still on record that I was at the forefront calling for Mazi Anakwenze to account for the missing Asa-Usa fund under his care to the point that the man delisted me from his “Igboworldfroum” for which I did not even gave a hoot nor made any comment about because it was like removing a cycle of mail repetition burden from my shoulder.

At least one of my extensive piece on that issue was titled, “The tiger and the Antelope” with part I and 2, the title somewhat tell you what the mail was all about with “tiger pouncing on the antelope he was asked to watch over”

On Ken being same as Odera, I can’t help but laugh as I let Nebu indulge in his fantasy; he needed it, at least if only it would help calm his nerves down. Even new entrants in the forum would laugh Nebu to scorn for making caricature of himself by this insinuation. All said and done Nebu is the one that really attacks me in the real sense of the word, what I do is disagree with him as I rebut and impeach his opinions mostly on the bible and Christianity and sometimes on other issues as well. 

And with this presentation:  “I conclude my case”

Ken.

 

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On Tuesday, October 7, 2014 6:27 AM, Nebukadineze Adiele <nebuka...@aol.com> wrote:

Ogbuonyeiro and Chukwuma,

I thank both of you for your wise observations. Let me briefly make these points (I am time pressed right now):

Ogbuonyeiro is correct that Ken Okey has not weakened me. I must add that he is incapable of weakening me in anything; if I take him on there will be no contest. I am ignoring him for now because I blocked his email address from reaching mine.

I think that what Chukwuma meant by Ken is weakening me is that Ken is being a nuisance and a distraction for me, with respect to fending off Igbophobes. In that case, Chukwuma is correct and I do appreciate his cleverness in observing that. Indeed, Ken Okey was an irritant who I could have dispensed with if I wanted but I elected to ignore him for now. But he has gone too far by tagging along with the criminal Iguade to attack me.

Chukwuma said that I blocked his email address on Igboforums. I cannot believe that he made such an allegation. I had no way of blocking his email address on any forums because I am not a moderator of any forum and was never a moderator of Igboforums. As a matter of fact, my email address was blocked on all Igboforums in a very funny way -- I could read but could not post any response. Tony Egbe and Azuoma tried their bests to resolve it for me but they could not even see where the block was made, how it was made, or who made it. I refused to stay if I could not post my responses, so I unsbscribed myself from all Igbo forums. 

I suspected Odera, Ken Okey (who I believe is Odera, by the way) and Chinwe Enemchukwu for sabotaging me. At that time, they individually and collectively frowned at my insistence that ASAUSA's money must be returned by its Idi Amin look alike president (I think his name is Nwachukwu Anakwenze or so).

I am surprised to read now that you also had your email blocked too. But what would make you think that I could do something like that to you? Na wa o.

Ogbuonyeiro, I appreciate you tremendously, my brother. You have never failed me and your indefatigable fighting spirit and your belief in me are motivating factors that keep me going, especially when some of our folks get on my nerves. 

Once again, I thank both of you and I hope that Ken Okey will use his tongue to count his teeth after reading this.

Ndewonu.

 

Nebukadineze Adiele
Organized religion sired irrationality.

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Chuky,

Nebu gives no hoot about attack by Ken. Ken may have his full on Nebu, when Nebu is ready for Ken, he will give Ken his due. Nebu is not weakened by anything except he so chooses. Useless oderaIGALA you said you asked me to stop attacking, what good is he to Igbo and for Igbo? Did you not read the attack on me by the dirty thing, together with that equally dirty, ugly bush medicine man looking fake ogbuefi ezewnamadu - when they wrote all manner of smear about me. I have no business with Liars of which oderaIGALA is numero uno, a criminal blackmailer must not be the face of my heritage. I will shoot him if he so appoijts himself, and I had the chance.You shut your eyes to his criminal smear and blackmail of, and all you recall is you telling me not to attack the Igala man. You do not remind me of that incident by talking about me and that China PIG oderaIGALA. You don't. If you deem him your friend and brother, his neither of those to me. Still on Nebu, Whoever does not like Nebu, must be dealing with some personal issues about which Nebu may not give a hoot. I enjoy reading the Nebu on any and every subject. He is about the best of us. Right on Nebu. Give not hoot to detractors. I have had reason to call Unique to order, years back, telling him him and Nebu are more alike than they are unalike. If Ken does not see that and enjoys picking on Nebu, I can easily say Nebu is more than equal to the distraction.

On Monday, October 6, 2014 4:51 PM, "'Chukwuma S. Agwunobi' agw...@yahoo.com [NIgerianWorldForum]" <NIgerianW...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Nebu: Why are you so full of ranting, I mean why are you such an ANGRY man, you show anger each time God or Jesus Christ is mentioned and yet you have shown all that you are an incredibly insecure man. Just check your response to Olugbenga and tell me what necessitated your rants here and there. By Nwanna KOC

 

Nwanna KOC:

 

Please for God sake stop your continuous attack on Nwa Adiele. He is not attacking you but continues to excerpt everything he writes and comment negatively on it. You see nothing good in anything and everything he writes.

 

You may attack me that I do the same thing to Mobolaji “Ebenezer” Aluko but my issue with him is not personal. Bolekaja Aluko is Igbo hater and he IGBONIZES every topic and write nasty and annoying things about the war.

 

You are weakening this brother zeal to fight Igbo haters like Bolekaja and Ayo, thereby giving them things to write about him. Nwanna gba brake. Enough is enough.

 

You may think Nwa Adiele is in my good book. No, he is not because he was the first Igbo guy to Block my E-Mail for attacking Mobolaji “Ebenezer” Aluko, EVELYNJOE and Nwa Aniedobe in Igbo Forum. But it is not about me. If he likes, let him block my Okoro nyash from here to Jericho provided he uses his good writing skills to checkmate Igbo haters like Bolekaja, Osu-Ji, Josef Onuorah and Nigeria Igbo haters.

 

He is doing a very, very, good job on this. I will take that to blocking my E-Mail. You are attacking him too much and he kept quiet and never cared to respond to you. I am telling you what I told Nwa Opara on the phone about attacking Nwa Odera, to chill out on attacking him all the time.

 

Nwanna KOC, please use your writing skills to respond to all these Igbo haters distorting the Biafra War story just like Nwanna Asagwara, Nwanna Obi Nwakanma, Ihemele, Ogbunwezeh and others does. I never read you write pim to address the attacks on Igbo’s by Efulefu Igbokwe, Osu-Ji, Ikenna Anuoffia Anokute and Josef Onuoikpu but you focused your attention on Nwa Adiele.

 

You attacking him for using Ogbunigwe Grammar, you attack him for Religion, you attack him on Buhari. You attack him for responding to NOYO. You attack him about Owerri episode with a fake madman which his enemies pounced on.

 

What you are doing was what made Igbo’s to lose the war. They were doing Eye service, blaming Nzeogwu and Ifeajuna after the January 1966 coup after reading poisonous articles about the coup by the Ngbati, Ngbati Press instead of responding to it.

 

They thought that their eye services, get well, get along in condemning Nzeogwu and co will endeared them to other Nigerians as detribalized Nigerians. They were unprepared for any outcome from the GWORO people.

 

So, when the Gworo people came calling on May-October, 1966, my people was mopping like mugus. They swept us in two days of their counterattack.

 

Nwanna KOC, your house dey burn fire, you dey push Rat.

 

Ngbati, Ngbati Igbo haters like Bolekaja, Ayo and AFIS have been attacking Igbo’s, calling every story we write about the war as lies and propaganda, but instead of you responding to it, you keep writing to distract the attention of a Blue Blood Igbo guy responding to them.

 

Ekwuchalam [I don talk finish].

 

And with this, I rest my case.

 

Chukwuma "Vicious Animal" Agwunobi
Seattle, Washington U. S. A

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[Wilson Iguade]

Quote:

... Indeed, Ken Okey was an irritant who I could have dispensed with [KILLED] if I wanted but I elected to ignore him for now. But he has gone too far by tagging along with the criminal Iguade to attack me.

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Response: First, in my understanding of the English language, again, my understanding not yours, "dispensed with", means killing another. Wow! Not only is Nebukadineze Adiele a criminal and a saboteur of Igbo tribes, such as Obowo, Nnewi, and Owerri. He want to "dispense with", kill a Christian pastor, Ken Okey, just because in the mind of Nebukadineze Adiele, Pastor Ken "was an irritant" he (Nebukadineze Adiele) "could have dispensed with [KILLED]" if Nebukadineze Adiele wanted, but he "elected to ignore him for now". For now means, the option of killing Pastor Ken Okey by Nebukadineze Adiele is still on the table just not now. 

This is coming from someone that fought a madman at Owerri market. Who in their right mind brags about beating a madman to cure, and then boosting about it to thousands of people in the fora. This is pure madness, exhibited in the purest form by Nebukadineze Adiele that wants or threatening to kill (dispense with) Pastor Ken. When is the good Igbo people going to grab this dude and shake some sense into him, instead of defending "Igboness"? 

Nebukadineze Adiele is the real criminal, a mad man, and a potential killer of those who serves God, because he, Nebukadineze "Criminal" Adiele, HATES God.

IF, I repeat IF criminal Nebukadineze Adiele is NOT a bona fide and genuine criminal, a for real criminal not yabbis name calling criminal, let this person, Nebukadineze "Criminal" Adiele tell us the following facts:

1) where he attended his undergraduate program (am not the only person asking this question).

2) where he attended law school, anywhere in the world? Why, because I cannot find Nebukadineze Adiele's name in the state of New York as a license attorney or with the America Bar Association, both entities are "registry" to licensed attorneys in the USA. Maybe in all my searches am spelling his name wrong. If so, Nebu just fucking tell us your standing, legally, as a lawyer and or attorney anywhere in the USA. Maybe you are a fucking "fake" or an impostor, prove me wrong, am begging you. In fact, I would even reimburse you for your costs up to $25.00. 

Folks, are these not responsible prudent questions that we should have answers to by now. What is this Nebukadineze "Criminal" Adiele hiding or hiding from? 

Nebu you are truly and really the criminal that goes around calling others criminals, myself and my friends (one Igbo and the other Yoruba). I would leave out the Yoruba name because as soon as I mention that name "Igboness" will take over regardless of the EVILS that Nebukadineze "Criminal" Adiele has caused Emeka Ugwuone, Esq., my Yoruba friend, and myself. 

Okpia Chuks, were you not the leader of the pack that defended me when this so called Atty Nebu and another fake attorney Seyi Awofeso decimated my character in the fora more than 5 years ago with rubbish that is not even my name? Yes! You and a few brave men and women stepped forward and defended their honors in defending mine. Thank God and I remain grateful to you all, you know yourself. 

Okpia Chuks, is it not true that this so called Atty Nebu (no verification that Nebukadineze "Criminal" Adiele is an attorney) decimated or tried to destroy another Igbo man, Emeka Ugwuonye, Esq., because Nebu cannot stand the brilliance of Emeka? Now, this same criminal punk Nebukadineze Adiele does not waste  his time to lampoon a very successful Yoruba dude. Why is Nebu's brothers and sisters not jumping all over Nebu WHEN he called, in practical terms, the entire tribe of Obowo, Nnewi and Owerri CRIMINALS. 

Okpia Chuks, why are you rubbishing your name for a scumbag like Nebu who told us he wrestled an individual, Nebu himself declared was a madman at Owerri market. Seriously, who in their right mind will engage an individual that person perceives (correct or incorrect) as MAD at a marketplace?

I tire sha! God help me understand this "igboness" it is truly rubbing decent people the wrong way. Here we have a person that fought a madman at a marketplace, brags about it, now threaten to "dispense with" a Pastor, and he is being defended. How does this help "Igboness"? Wow!

"Chukwuma said that I blocked his email address on Igboforums. I cannot believe that he made such an allegation." By Nebukadineze "Criminal" Adiele 

Response: I can! I believe Okpia Chuks a million times OVER, before I believe an iota of anything this criminal punk Nebu says. If Okpia Chuks says it, and he did, to me, it is true that Nebukadineze "Criminal" Adiele blocked Chuks emails. Period.

God bless! "I"

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[Mobolaji Aluko]

Okpia Wilson:

Lord have mercy!

On this narrow occasion, you really have both Nebu and Akusobi reeling...you got them by their balls, no pun intended.

A man who fakes madness so well that he (nearly?) convinces a whole town, and causes a (sane?) man Nebu(chadnezzer?) to wrestle him to the ground, thereby curing him of his (fake?) insanity must be mad.    If he is not mad, he should be.  Or else,  those who think that he is not mad are the mad ones.

Whatever be the case, there is malady in the air somewhere, and it ain't me or Wilson Iguade!

Mba nu!

And there you have it.

Bolaji Aluko

Having a belly laugh..and

Ducking...

[daniel Akusobi]

Mazi Aluko.
Again, Nebu declared that the Ama JK Owerre "mad man" was not mad. According to Nebu, the man faked insanity so he could work about terrorizing people for a recourse. His faked mad acts were an attention seeking behavior in accordance with the culture of his locale stated as below:

    Nwata ga eme ka onye ara, umu nna ya, a gaghi aluye ya nwanyi.

Will have Nebu or / and Green Dim, interpret this.
The "mad man" needed a caring attention from anyone intelligent and brave enough to understand his motives.

Did his, the faker's strategy work? I think it worked.
God sent him a Yankee, Nebu!

Nebu,  according to his account as excerpted by KEN , became his Jesus. He cleansed him up, gave him a job and probably helped him find another Igbo soul mate.

It is not surprising that anyone deprived the glory of marrying an Igbo woman, especially the Owerri specie, can become clinically mad or fake one in order to catch some humane  attention.

On a more serious  note,  wrestling a clinically mad person to the ground , giving him some blows on his face , feeding him,clothing him and giving him a job, won't always or at all be a cure for his madness if indeed he is clinically  psychotic.
The man Nebu cured was probably not clinically mad if Nebu's inhumane treatment was all it took to make him sane.

If Nebu's style of curing mad people do work, we will then deploy HIM  to quit his laptop so he can start beating the hell out of our heads, the insane heads we project here so we can become more sane. Nebu's style of cure for madness is called
Nebu - Adieletherapy. Not nebutherapy as that will confuse some here to mean a breathing treatment.

I think I would know a mad man when I see one.  Nebu  has not  crossed that boundary or has he?. Willie got too close to the boundary , raging and  curing out, using  ghetto languages.
 
BTW,your declaration
      " no porn intended"
has thought me some new style so I can now more freely present some juices , I believe are a more effective and humane cure for madness, the styles we nourish  here , without some regrets I suffer each time I act out on my obsession to diffuse some mad tensions here.
Without porn intended,Willie must have jerked off and cooled down after reading my defence of his buddy, Nebu Adiele.
Good morning people and pray that Ebola does not catch any of us here or there, because it seems any African with Ebola in the USA must be let to die like his  fellow Ebola-ed patients at home.
Dan, waiting for Nebutherapy.
Dan

[daniel Akusobi]

Some corrections on the Owerre encounter with a " mad man"  '
Here is Nebu's explanation in a brief.
          " In fact, if he could read English language and understand a narrative, it would have dawned on him that no mad man was involved in the true story that I narrated" ( Nebu).

It won't get clearer than that above or
may be  Ozodinobi Osuji, whose compound in Owere was the stage for the scenes that had Nebu and the mad man as major actors, can help out to explain the "mad man" was not clinically insane, my position, if  a wrestling contest with Nebu was all it took to cure him.
Now we all can have some belly laugh.  It won't hurt a bit doing so.
See you after work.
Dan

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[Joseph Igietseme]

Wallahi, when I read the purported wrestling match epitomized by the legendary "Amalieze the Cat of Achebe fame" between Mazi Nebu Adiele and the so-called Madman who was chasing women allover town; and Nebu's bogus claim that his gruesome duel cured the madman of his madness, JUI LAUGH so tey his stomach muscles were aching......hehehehe! Na FABU!!!!!

Our Broda Nebu Adiele really need HELP! Nebu's inundating Fabu and jist combined are just UNBELIEVABLE! And sadly, Nebu will employ all sorts of misused and misplaced avalanche of meandering proses, abuses, intimidation, Ogboju, blackmailing tactics and name-calling to deliver the Fabu! Of course that will only impress some Used Spare-parts hawkers like our man in Seattle........[Oooops!) hehehehehe!!! Take care.. JUI [ducking.....JUI does not engage crazy lunatics and vicious madmen! ]

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[Wilson Iguade]

Na salute o! VC Aluko

As u dey talk am - there you have it!  

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... If he [Nebukadineze Adiele] is not mad, he should be.  Or else,  those who think that he is not mad are the mad ones. [amen!]

Whatever be the case, there is malady in the air somewhere, and it ain't me or Wilson Iguade!

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As always, may your tribe increase! VC Aluko.

Regards grabbing them (Nebu and Daniel) by the balls, it the perfect analogy. Now, I just need to squeeze the damn balls so they tell the truth or confess their madness. Hehehe!

God bless. "I"

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[Wilson Iguade]

Daniel,

You are truly sounding foolish, seriously. You said, "According to Nebu, the man faked insanity ..."

So, if Nebu knew "the man faked insanity", why did Nebukadineze Adiele still declared this man a "mad man". 

If Nebu knew "the man faked insanity", why did Nebukadineze Adiele still wrestled a person he perceived to be faking insanity?

Who was truly mad in that situation, the one faking for attention or Nebukadineze Adiele who knew the man was faking yet declared this man a "mad man", and proceeded to beat that fake madman into cure or sanity, there was fighting between these individuals at Owerri market, according to Nebukadineze Adiele, same person who declared the subject a madman BEFORE he was NOT a madman. Hehehehe! 

Nutballs like Daniel and Nebukadineze Adiele are not to be trusted. Hence, the foolishness in Daniel's defense of madMEN, both fighters (Nebu and Abiodun) at Owerri  market. In my book, anyone fighting at any marketplace is a lunatic, pure and simple, therefore Nebukadineze Adiele is the poster child of lunatics and nuttballs in the fora.

 

Btw:

Daniel do you know the school that Nebu attended for his undergraduate, YES or No?

Daniel do you know the law school Nebu graduated from, YES or No?

Appreciate your response, thank you. "I"

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[daniel Akusobi]

Iguade Willie

How would Nebu or any sensible man know that a person acting mad is not really mad without confronting him like a mad person should be handled?

I would not know where Nebu schooled since I did not meet him in one of my classes. I know though that he is like you and I and Aluko here sharing same school and classes and being our own teachers and students alike.
Did you have time to watch family feud by Steve Harvey?
Have a nice PM.
Dan

[daniel Akusobi]

Willie, my restating what Nebu said, or my inferential take on his   narration  of his brief encounter with a man he thought was really mad has not risen to the level of  being labelled foolish.

My argument will continue to rest on what I know and what you  know about real mental illness or such acts that could be so described.
My take on this issue is entirely based on what is real and possible in a true life situation . That is the FACT that no real or clinically insane person gets better with scolding and or a physical fight with anyone who thought he is mad.
The best self protective act by Nebu or you, should you encounter such a situation Nebu found himself at Ama Jk would  be to assume that Mr. Abiodun was indeed mentally sick before you confront him.
Dan
 

[Ayo Ojutalayo]

"The best self protective act by Nebu or you, should you encounter such a situation Nebu found himself at Ama Jk would be to assume that Mr. Abiodun was indeed mentally sick before you confront him." . . . Dan Akusobi

"In my book, anyone fighting at any marketplace is a lunatic, pure and simple, therefore Nebukadineze Adiele is the poster child of lunatics and nuttballs in the fora." . . .  Wilson Iguade 

Whether with a sane man or an insane man, Nebu fought at the market place. He couldn't have lied against himself. If Nebu were called to Bar in Nigeria, he would been debarred for fighting in the market place because it is a professional misconduct. That he publicly reported himself is an indication that he is not licensed to practice in Nigeria.

 

Ayo Ojutalayo

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[Ezeana Igirigi Achusim]

What has this have to do with VC Aluko or Miss Mercy ?

And I am

Ezeana Igirigi Achusim

Odi-Isaa

Nwa Dim Orioha 

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[Wilson Iguade]

"If Nebu were called to Bar in Nigeria, he would been debarred for fighting in the market place because it is a professional misconduct. That he publicly reported himself is an indication that he is not licensed to practice in Nigeria." By Ayo Ojutalayo 

Nebu is a fake character just exposed by yours truly. Nebu is not licensed attorney anywhere in Nigeria or in the USA. 

This dude! Nebukadinaeze Adiele is totally fake. I give him credit to have pulled his shenanigans this long and not caught, until now. Only a bona fide thief and madman, Nebukadinaeze Adiele, can pull this off for this long. I must confess the dude had me fooled for years, no more. You doubters out there send me something in private to prove Nebu is a real person or feel free to post your information. 

Like a shark, am still looking for blood in the water.  Regards. "I"

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[Afis]

Peter Da Vuvuzela Opara, lives a loner's life with no tribe. 

How can his tribe increase or decrease?

He dies, yamutu........SHIKENA bigg time.
Afis

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[Joseph Igietseme]

When JUI pronounced the character named Nebu Adiele on this forum as a LUNATIC a while back, some people jumped on JUI! But if we honestly examine JUI's calls on people on this forum over the years [e.g., Valentine Ojo, Nebu Adiele, Steven Kuberuwa, a number of ethnic jingoists and provocateurs], we'll find that time and events have vindicated his calls on the mindlessness, sauciness and unruliness of these characters. As we can see clearly here, this same character called Nebukadineze Adiele who said he's a practicing Attorney in America, has confessed with his own mouth that he went to Owerri market to engage, fight, pummel and wrestle with a madman called Abiodun! 

Folks, note that this James Bond-like bouncer duty was not even a case of Nebu defending himself from an attack from Madman Abiodun; it was a deliberate seek-and-wrestle operation undertaken by Nebu to purportedly forestall any further harassment of market women by the madman; Nebu, a US practicing Attorney didnt think that picking up some Police men or women to arrest or contain Madman Abiodun was the best judgment under the circumstance; he went after Abiodun personally and physically assaulted the poor madman who could be pardoned for his insanity; but how do we deal with Nebu's Lunacy? Tell us!

Besides, you know that bigots dont often think properly and reasonably as they are engulfed in the fervor of their parochial jingoism; so Nebu erroneously thought that he was going to get High-5s from his co-ethnic jingoists by saying an Igbo Attorney from America confronted a madman who has a Yoruba name [Abiodun]. The TRUTH is that no educated and/or decent member of the Ndiigbo of Nigeria or any other major or minority ethnic groups in Nigeria would consider it a badge of honor to come to a public place to announce that he personally fought with a madman......whether he thought the madman was truly mad or faking madness! Its a SHAME! And this Guy wants to be excluded from the club of Certified Lunatics? Tufi-akwa!!! In fact, if his Attorney colleagues know about this madman's encounter, Nebu's career may be finished! Guess what, this is a Guy who likes to blackmail other people with their degrees, jobs, careers, professions or groups they associated with when he's debating them and he does not like their positions on the issues. Wallahi, Nebu Adiele cannot be a serious-minded person; JUI's label of Nebu Adiele as a "LUNATIC" is hereby vindicated! Hehehehe!!! Take care. JUI [wondering who will be EXPOSED next!]

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On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 3:46 AM, 'Chris Ukachukwu' via OkonkwoNetworks <okonkwo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

How does "fighting in the market place" by a citizen who is not there in any official capacity constitute "a professional misconduct"? I am just seeking clarification. 

 

C. Ukachukwu

"Class, race, sexuality, gender and all other categories by which we categorize and dismiss each other need to be excavated from the inside."
- Dorothy Allison

"There is some good in the worst of us and some evil in the best of us.
When we discover this, we are less prone to hate our enemies."

- Martin Luther King, Jr.

[Yeye Rolling]

Joe:

Let me ask a you question..   Do you believe that stricter VISA requirements should include 

polymerase chain reaction (PCR)  testing for ctitizens of those nations most affected by Ebola ?  

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[Joseph Igietseme]

Brother Yeye Rolling,

JUI's is not sure whether there is any requirement for health certificate for any disease [TB, AIDS, leprosy etc] before a visa [travel/visiting] is issued by any country. However, health officials can monitor health-related incidents at airports before permitting entry or recommending quarantine. 

So using any diagnostic method, including PCR, to test and deliver test results with applications for visiting visas may be a tedious undertaking. In any case, such tests are already required for residency visas in the US. Did JUI answer your question? Hehehehe!!! Take care. JUI

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[Wilson Iguade]

Greetings,

I agree with the following accurate statement wholeheartedly 

Quote

As we can see clearly here, this same character called Nebukadineze Adiele who said he's a practicing Attorney in America, has confessed with his own mouth that he went to Owerri market to engage, fight, pummel and wrestle with a madman called Abiodun! 

Unquote

Comment:

Please I beg you guys, am very serious here, I mean serious as a heart attack that is serious to WARN you guys to stop saying that Nebukadineze Adiele is a US practicing attorney, because there is no evidence to support such statement. This is the lies that Nebu has told ya'all for years. It is absolutely false and completely a bogus lie. Nebukadineze Adiele is NOT on the "registry" with the state of NY, where I understand from his writings he resides. Nebukadineze Adiele is not listed with the America Bar Association (ABA), which most decent attorneys elected to become a member of. Since no registry can be found to the best of my ability that indicates Nebukadineze Adiele  being a licensed attorney and or lawyer, it is reasonable that any prudent person MUST conclude that Nebukadineze Adiele is a FRAUD, for real fraud, not yappis FRAUD. 

Nebukadineze Adiele has hoodwinked and bamboozled us all for more than 10 years. No more, Nebukadineze Adiele is a FAKE. Can you believe it! Yes he is a fake, as of right now and until someone can vouch for his existence.

Nebukadineze Adiele is a FAKE and not a licensed attorney and or lawyer anywhere in the USA.

Nebukadineze Adiele is not on the "registry" anywhere in the USA as a lawyer and attorney. Seriously, I want to be totally wrong here, am begging every single member in the fora who is reading this to make their contribution for the good of the fora and to ensure quality content, tell us where did Nebukadineze Adiele go to undergraduate college/university? (Nebu has refused to answer this question, which makes him a significant suspect or a man with no credibility).

Also, Nebukadineze Adiele is the criminal that he has called others, he is a thief, at least he has stolen our time over the years perpetrating falsehood and lies. Anybody, anyone I can trust PROVE to me that Nebukadineze Adiele is REAL.

I, Wilson Iguade, am real (not fake), for example, I quoted Dr. Igietseme at the start of my post. I have met Dr. Igietseme multiple times in person, one of that meeting was in Wash DC when president JONA came to Washington DC and NIDOA presented him to the people, hundredth of Nigerians were there, even some prevented from entering the Embassy compound for lack of proper credentials to that event. 

My point, I have served, just like Dr. Igietseme, in the NIDOA Board of Directors. I know that Dr. Igietseme has invested his time and money for Nigerians, same for Wilson Iguade. I worked with Dr. Ola Kassim when I was the Chairman of the first ever funding event of NIDOA that took place at Boston, MA, and led to the then Chairman Richard Soyombo's resignation from the NIDO board. My point, like me or not, like JUI or not, like Dr. Ola Kassim or not, we are NOT fakes. We can be found and we like many more have given our time and money to our community.

Now, the important question is has  Nebukadineze Adiele done anything for his community anywhere? IF so, please tell us where and when did Nebukadineze Adiele SERVED!!! We, this audience, deserve to know this simple truth. 

God help us. "I"

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[Ayo Ojutalayo]

 "The TRUTH is that no educated and/or decent member of the Ndiigbo of Nigeria or any other major or minority ethnic groups in Nigeria would consider it a badge of honor to come to a public place to announce that he personally fought with a madman......whether he thought the madman was truly mad or faking madness! Its a SHAME! And this Guy wants to be excluded from the club of Certified Lunatics? Tufi-akwa!!!" . . . JUI

JUI,

Does it mean that those who said they can do the same thing that Nebu did are not "educated and/or decent"? The Peter Oparas (Deputy Ikemba peter opara's case is understandable), the Canice Onuohas (a.k.a. wharf snake) and the Ken Asagwaras said they will fight with a mad man or a fake mad man in the market place!!!

Ayo Ojutalayo

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[Ezeana Igirigi Achusim]

JUI:

Do you, under oath , really believe that anyone on these forums is insane or is a lunatic? 

And I am

Ezeana Igirigi Achusim

Odi-Isaa

Nwa Dim Orioha 

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[Asagwara, Ken (EAL)]

This Ayo Ojutalayo of a person, why do you keep reinforcing my perception of you as reading and comprehension challenged? Boy, what is the matter with you.

 

You see, if I say you are retarded and not amenable to education and learning or call you daft or a dolt, you whine to no end. And why shouldn’t I see you as such when you keep putting your foot in your mouth. You carelessly stated inter alia, “...and the Ken Asagwaras said they will fight with a mad man or a fake mad man in the market place!!!”

 

I challenge you to provide where I ever said as you stated for my $100.00 to your N1.00. If you can’t or will not, bury your opioro mango head in shame and vamoose from the forums for good since you are of no value to meaningful discussions.

 

Yeye efulefu Baba were dunwo of Yoruba land.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

 

 

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 "The TRUTH is that no educated and/or decent member of the Ndiigbo of Nigeria or any other major or minority ethnic groups in Nigeria would consider it a badge of honor to come to a public place to announce that he personally fought with a madman......whether he thought the madman was truly mad or faking madness! Its a SHAME! And this Guy wants to be excluded from the club of Certified Lunatics? Tufi-akwa!!!" . . . JUI

[Asagwara, Ken (EAL)]

Folks:

 

Nebu is a trained and qualified lawyer. Not every lawyer opens a private office for private practice. Many are lawyers that work for businesses, corporations and NGOs. Among the others, Nebu is into Civil & Libertarian Law and you may have read him mention that in the forums.

 

If I understood it correct, he is also an active member of the US Civil and Human Rights organizations; a reason why his job takes him from place to place in the USA and for being absent from the forums when he is on the road. You may want to call any other thing about him into question not his legal education and training. He is as real as you and me, bro Wilson Iguade.

 

Some folks will eat out their hearts seeing him in person. Yes, he is a no nonsense man; an Igbo patriot  who takes no prisoners of those who try to rubbish our Biafran ordeal.

 

There you have it a la Bolaji Aluko.

 

Cheers.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

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[Afis]

These guys always beat a dead horse to a coma. Nebu is a lawyer, we all know he's a lawyer. 

In fact he is more Grammar-grounded than most Lawyers here who now Prepare Taxes for a living.

So,

What is the value in all these back and forth?

Is it not enough he is caught in a big lie?

And if not a lie, then is it not enough we now know Nebu may have a little "gan-in-gan-in-gan-in" wrestling a madman?

At a point, you guys tune everyone off, when you keep beating, slashing, decking a dead horse.......you turn empathy for you into "sympathy" for the victim.

Nebu was the oppressor, but at a point and that's Human Psychology 101, you guys Wilson Iguade and company become the bully that won't let "poor" Nebu breath. More so, the person you are bullying is nowhere to be found. You guys are now the Wailing Wall of Jerusalem. Are you sure there is anyone on the other side of the Wall hearing you Wail? If not, you might as well join Nebu in the marketplace to wrestle as many madmen as you can find.

You guys don't understand the psych of warring......it is called "shoki lobe oge" in Yoruba.

SHIKENA,

Afis

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[Afis]

"My point, I have served, just like Dr. Igietseme, in the NIDOA Board of Directors. I know that Dr. Igietseme has invested his time and money for Nigerians, same for Wilson Iguade. I worked with Dr. Ola Kassim when I was the Chairman of the first ever funding event of NIDOA that took place at Boston, MA,......." By Wilson Iguade.

Afis comment: 

NIDOA has Board of Directors? 

Na where be una HQ? On paper?

Naija peoples nawa sef.

Board of Directors?

Funny stuff.

Maybe because of Ebola, you all meet on cyber?

Chuckling stuff.

Ok, jokes apart, Wilson Iguade, what did you guys achieve since 1999?

Abuja Land and surveyor?

Another serious Laffing.

Wilson Iguade, if I were a NIDOA member, I won't ever boast of it in public.
Seriously, with you kind of Nigerians, it is NOT hard to say "it can never be better for Naija".

Afis

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[Wilson Iguade]

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara, since you have chosen to vouch for Nebu, as in "Nebu is a trained and qualified lawyer. Not every lawyer opens a private office for private practice. Many are lawyers that work for businesses, corporations and NGOs."

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara, please tell us where did Nebu went to law school?

Question #2 Tell us where this Nebu attended undergraduate school and what year did he graduated?

If you cannot answer those questions above, you shall henceforth be deemed a fraud, liar, thief, and criminal in the same vein Nebu has called some of us in the fora, including the tribes of Obowo, Nnewi, and Owerri.

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara, please, again, tell us where Nebukadinaeze Adiele attended university and law school(a). That all. Thank you. "I"

 
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[BUSKA]

Odi isaa, yes there are mad me around

We have Shukwumad Agunzombie,is the ikemba of iyanminrin lunatics, while Peteru Oparapaniyan,clinched the Deputy Ikembaship of iyanminrin lunatics, there are many mad men like Warf Snake operating from he fringe 

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[daniel Akusobi]

Willie
On Nebu.
Have you checked  Oxford university,UK and Yale university,Ct?
Good morning.
Dan

[Vin Otuonye]

Wilson Iguade:

Nebu is a lawyer. He need not say where he went to Law School. I can tell one of my own when I see him or her.

Vin

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[Ayo Ojutalayo]

"Folks, note that this James Bond-like bouncer duty was not even a case of Nebu defending himself from an attack from Madman Abiodun; it was a deliberate seek-and-wrestle operation undertaken by Nebu to purportedly forestall any further harassment of market women by the madman . . .  And this Guy wants to be excluded from the club of Certified Lunatics? Tufi-akwa!!!" . . . JUI

Ayo Ojutalayo

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