GMB: Our Hercules By Chiechefulam Ikebuiro
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“Any system is only as good as the quality of humanity that runs it”-Professor Wole Soyinka
BY CHIECHEFULAM IKEBUIROOCT 25, 2014
An Augean stable according to the Webster dictionary, is a place filled with great accumulation of filth or corruption.
This definition is actually gotten from the Greek mythology, Augeas. Augeas had the single greatest herd of cattle in the country but had a problem. His problem was that the stables where he kept the cattle had never been cleaned. His neglect was so great that even the land surrounding them had been unfertilized for many years, due to the unused manure which lay within the compound.
In came Hercules who believed he could clean up the stables. Thinking it would be totally impossible, Augeas promised Hercules a tenth of his cattle if the huge task was finished in a single day. Hercules accepted Augeas' challenge and set about working out a plan in to do the job in a thorough way. The next day Hercules started his formidable labour with his strength and brain. He diverted river Alpheus through the stables which in turns cascaded into the fields below, giving the soil life after being deprived manure for many years. Viola, Hercules had done the impossible-Augeas stable was clean as a whistle!
Nigeria today, I am afraid, is like Augeas' stable, with all hope (almost) lost and we are in serious need of our Hercules.
I was having a discussion months back with a very good friend of mine, when I asked him if he thought anybody could make Nigeria better. His flat answer was NO.I asked why and his simple answer was that the Nigerian ‘system’ is irredeemable. He went on to talk about how there was more to Nigeria’s system than meets the eye. The ‘system’, according to my friend is bigger than anybody and cannot go down like that. I pressed further by asking if he thought no single person in a population of over 160million was capable of fighting the ‘system’. He paused for a while, maybe Buhari, came the reply, albeit skeptically. He would like to see Buhari-"the last hope" so to speak-, at the helm so as to show (me) Nigeria is not redeemable. He thinks the ‘system’ will swallow Buhari too.
There are so many people out there who have lost hope in Nigeria and this exasperates me to say the least. In the midst of plenty, Nigeria has no business being where she is today. To many Nigerians, the country is irredeemable and at the soul of this lost hope is corruption. See, there is no disputing the fact that corruption accounts for almost 100% of why Nigeria is where she is today. Take away corruption and regular power supply won't be a myth...
Take away corruption and you will see our hospitals compete with the best there is worldwide. Take away corruption and see unemployment tackled to almost a standstill and people like Abba Moro won’t have to kill thousands of Nigerians in the name of Job recruitment. Take away corruption and people won't have to die avoidable deaths on our roads. Take away corruption and you wouldn't be buying kerosene at 160/litre-a commodity you are told is subsidized. I'ld need you to come up with the rest as I feel I am already sounding like a broken record.
Nigeria has been managed over the years by deceitful, untrustworthy and negligent leaders (except for one or two) just like Augeas. They have never done anything in the interest of the people. One side enjoys it all while the other feels the pain. It is almost like sadomasochism.
The Nigerian system is filled with so much filth. There is so much public money being controlled and consumed by just a few and we need someone to clean this mess urgently. That person methinks is General Muhammed Buhari.
I know some guns and goons will come out blazing, but I dare say even those who oppose this man openly, admire him in their closet.
Now I have heard so many arguments about Nigeria needing a younger man at the helm. I tell you something for free-This is so true! Is GMB the only one who can make for the change we seek? Hell No! There are so many bright young brains with lofty ideas fighting for space in their heads.
So Why Buhari and what does he want at this age? While I do not disagree that Nigeria needs a younger person (who knows his onion) at the helm, it is worthwhile to note that the very corrupt Nigerian system actually goes beyond government. There are those who are outside government, who have held successive governments by the balls (the subsidy palaver of 2012 comes to mind). These same guys are still around and will be around when the younger man comes. My question now is, will this younger man not buckle when these guys come out guns blazing, squeezing the hell out of his balls? It will be the 8th wonder of the world if he does not. Brethren, the stench out of this stable is choking!
GMB, has seen it all. He has nothing to lose. To those who ask what GMB still wants, I say a better Nigeria where he can retire peacefully in. A Nigeria where you, me and generations to come can be proud of. In GMB we have zero tolerance for corruption. Who still remembers Farouk Lawan gate? Would that have been buried under GMB? Well, I think not. Who still remembers the 20billion dollars missing oil money? Would it be swept under the carpet under GMB? I think not. Do you think Abba Moro will still be at the helm of the ministry of interior after the murder session as well as robbery that were organized in the name of tests under GMB? Again, I think not. On why the elite are scared of him in a recent interview his answer was ‘’they know why’’ and I think we all know why too.
This is someone who is not so intent on materialism, in sharp contrast to what we have today. I understand he does not have a house in Abuja. How is that even possible in Nigeria? Do you know that Prof Tam David West, the petroleum minister under GMB has not had his house painted after all these years? Compare that to the lifestyle of those who have held the same portfolio since then.
GMB comes across as someone who won’t surround himself with unscrupulous elements if elected.
Your body language encourages your subordinates to act as they like. Act like you tolerate corruption and see them loot the treasury dry. Hear GMB speak and you will be convinced he means well for Nigeria. You will be convinced that corruption will not thrive under him. Something tells me he wants nothing more than to get us out of this mess we are in. Nigeria needs a stable mind to steer this ship. Nigeria needs an aficionado.
Have we not had enough? Are we loving the status quo? It is time to put aside tribal and religious sentiments if we want a better Nigeria. Can we please consider the future and generation unborn? Can we look at the bigger picture? Can we please pay no attention to people who will come tell you GMB is on a mission to turn Nigeria to an Islamic state? I wonder why that was not done when he was at the helm with Tunde Idiagbon-both Muslims. Those that will come tell you he sponsors Boko Haram-the same Boko Haram that made an attempt on his life. These same people just say anything without facts to pull him down. They won’t tell you that most of his domestic staff are Christians.
Please, for the sake of God pay no attention to those who will rubbish Buhari's achievements with PTF. They won’t tell you about the many road constructions as well as infrastructures that were put in place. They won’t tell you he encouraged internal revenue generation as well as indigenous developments; something that guaranteed protection of our foreign reserves. He wanted us to be self-reliant that exportation was highly encouraged .He did not believe that borrowing very heavily, even when presented on a platter was in the interest of Nigeria to the displeasure of the IMF and the west who thought they had the plan to running Nigeria perfectly. Today, we borrow at any opportunity. They won’t tell you that he reduced the cost of running government by reducing government expenditure and that foreign trip for government officials was suspended plus travelling allowance reduced. Today,the cost of running government in Nigeria is out of this world. You won’t hear them say civil service workforce was cut down by Buhari as majority of the workers who did not get there on merit lazied about and guess what, those who got retrenched were not just abandoned; they were made to #DoAgric. He stands for meritocracy and is considerate.
You can never hear them say inflation rate dropped MASSIVELY between 84 and 85and that our currency enjoyed some stability. My brother, I swear they won’t tell you that distribution depots and petroleum storage were set up during his regime. That Oil pipelines were laid throughout the country so crude could be transported to various depots. They will be silent on the fact that construction contract was signed for the Warri and Kaduna refineries as well as partnership agreement with the two operating companies for production of liquefied natural gas.
These same people who will rather tell you unverifiable and trivial lies about GMB are those same people who are scared of Buhari. They have run out of ideas as regards how to pull him down. These are the same people that feed off the sufferings of you and I, and have no intentions of stopping soon, hence the propaganda to stop GMB at all cost. Truly they know what he can do, and whatever he will do will impede their modus operadi-stealing you blind. Simply put, Buhari's coming will take (ill gotten) food out of their tables.
Nigeria needs someone to clean this Augean stable just like Hercules cleaned Augeas' stable. Nigeria needs a GMB to clean up the mess for four years (yes four years is enough to clean up the rot), then we can allow a younger sound mind take over a clean state.
Will GMB seek another term after the four years? My hunch is that he won't after giving us a new beginning.
Now, I may never meet Buhari in my life time, all I just care about is a better Nigeria –A Nigeria where I can live in peace and be proud of .A Nigeria that will provide me and generation unborn , the basic necessities of life. Continuing like this is not an option for me anymore!
We can NEVER have a revolution in this country as Nigerians love life like crazy, and since we cannot have that, can we at least vote in somebody who can clean this Augean stable?
I pray the APC does the needful.
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“What Do Nigerians Want Me To Do?”, Buhari Speaks On The Perception that He Is A Fundamentalist
FEATUREDNEWSOct 25, 2014
Former Head of State, General Muhammdu Buhari has said that he has demonstrated to Nigerians that he is not a fundamentalist and therefore has nothing more to do to change their perception.
He spoke in respect of the perception as been made to believe in some quarters that he is an extremist who will Islamize the country if he becomes the president.
Buhari who is a presidential hopeful under the platform of the All Progressives Congress in an exclusive interview with the cable said “Nigerians will always uncover impossible room for manoeuvre for politicians. I had to face one of the governors during one of our party’s meetings [over the issue of religion].
“In 2003, I chose Chuba Okadigbo as my running mate. He was a Roman Catholic. He was an Igbo. In 2007, I picked Edwin Ume-Ezeoke. He was a Roman Catholic. He was an Igbo. And in 2010, I chose even a pastor. Pastor Tunde Bakare.
“Honestly, what do Nigerians want me to do? If they don’t believe I’m not a fundamentalist, what else can I do?”
The retired General who said he is keeping an open mind about the possibility of picking a Muslim as his running mate if he emerges the flagbearer of his party said This new phenomenon of religion is another blackmail political confusionists in Nigeria are bringing to the fore.”
“I have not absolutely closed my mind to picking a Christian or Muslim as running mate if I get the ticket. Because I firmly believe that Nigerians, having gone through what they have gone through, realise it is not a matter of religion, but a matter of Nigeria.
“And the main religions, Christianity and Islam, they know and they believe in the almighty God. The question of stealing and short-changing people in the name of religion should stop,” he said.
He likened his situation to that of Moshood Abiola, a southern Muslim, who picked Babagana Kingibe, a northern Muslim, as running mate in the 1993 presidential election. The Muslim-Muslim ticket went on to win an election that is still considered by many as the most credible in Nigeria’s history.
He also made reference to the 1961 northern house of assembly election, when Ibrahim Imam, a Kanuri Muslim from Borno, won an election to represent Tivland, a Catholic domain in the middle belt, after being sponsored by Joseph Tarka, the leading Tiv politician then.
He said religion cannot be an issue if he wins APC’s ticket and goes ahead to win the presidential election, because of the background of many political leaders from the south-west. The wives of Bola Tinubu, APC national leader; Oyo governor, Abiola Ajimobi; Lagos governor, Babatunde Fashola; Ogun governor, Ibikunle Amosun; and former APC interim chairman, Bisi Akande, are all Christians, Buhari pointed out. “For goodness sake, the children of these political leaders were bred and brought up by Christian mothers. You think those people, wherever they participate, they will bring a religious issue? What kind of people are we? Nigerians will always bring something to cause confusion while we are trying to stabilise the system,” he said.
Full interview
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EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: I’m not opposed to Muslim-Muslim ticket, says Buhari
October 25
14:00
2014
👤by TheCable
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TheCable: Why should Nigerians prefer you to any other candidate in the presidential race?
Buhari: We need to stabilise the system. And the beauty of democracy is competition. I honestly welcome the competition. I have tried to be elected president three times and I failed three times, and I ended up in the Supreme Court three times. I try to explain to those who are interested why I have been ending up in the Supreme Court. Not because I was hoping that the court would change the decision of the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) announcing that it was the PDP that won, but I wanted to get it on the record that when we are trying to stabilise this system, these are part of the difficulties. We provided evidences at the tribunals. There are people who try really to see that the system stabilises, to make sure it reaches credible and international standards. That is a role I have been trying to play all along.
TheCable: So what qualities stand you out from other candidates?
Buhari: That is an unfair question. I would not like to blow my own trumpet. But I think Nigerians are the judges. The only thing I would say is that I have been a governor. To begin with my career as a military man, from lieutenant colonel, that is one pip, in charge of 36 people, to a general commanding a division… I am proud to say that I am the only officer in the Nigeria army that commanded three out of the four divisions then in the Nigeria army: the second division in Ibadan, the third armoured division in Jos and the fourth division in Lagos, which was moved to Enugu and renamed 82 division. I commanded three divisions out of the four. And then I became command-in-chief, as short as it was, for 20 months.
And politically, I was governor of the northeast, which is now six states, comprising Yobe, Borno, Adamawa, Gombe, Bauchi and Taraba. From there, when Gen. Murtala Muhammed was assassinated [in 1976], and there were additional states in the country and I was moved to Lagos, I was sworn in as member of the Supreme Military Council under Obasanjo’s government and then made federal commissioner of petroleum and chairman of the Nigeria National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC). And from there I went to the War College in the US, came back and became head of state. And I ended up in jail for three and a quarter years (general laughter). After that, I went home and I decided to join partisan politics in April 2002. So anything a Nigerian politician wants to be, I have been, although in khaki. So I have been attempting since 2003 to go back in civil dress and play partisan politics.
TheCable: A lot of people are saying the problems of Nigeria are so many now, more than what you met in 1983 as military head of state. If you were elected president, what would you do differently from President Jonathan on power supply, for instance? How can we tackle this problem?
Buhari: It cannot be done overnight. The hearings conducted by the National Assembly on NEPA or Power Holding Company of Nigeria, of blessed memory, pension fund and petroleum industry show the extreme mismanagement of what Nigeria stands for… because if you remove petroleum industry, if you remove the organisation of pension funds and power, Nigeria will collapse. I refer you to my declaration that in 1999 when the PDP came, power generation was hovering between 3,000 and 4,000 megawatts. It is now hovering between that number again after $20 billion had been spent. This is what the hearings exposed. And nobody has been punished.
What happened to the $20 billion? What happened to pension funds? What happened to another $20 billion exposed by a former governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria [Lamido Sanusi]? All these things the PDP governments between 1999 and now have not been able to explain to Nigerians. And the remarkable thing about Nigeria is that: because having been a minister, governor and head of state, you do not go to any parastatal or any ministry without meeting financial instructions and administrative instructions, but Nigerians have the audacity at each level to cast that away and keep doing what they like. And no one is being punished.
Buhari says he will support whoever gets APC ticket if he doesn’t get it
TheCable: Would you like to dig up the report before we move forward?
Buhari: If you try to do that, the state will immediately collapse because a lot of the institutions have been compromised. With whom are you going to work? My own belief now is that you just have to draw a line and move forward. But since cases are in the court no matter what, you have to allow the judiciary to do its job. We can hurry them up a bit, but we must allow the judiciary because it is not a profession you can take over their duties. It is the third arm of government. We can come as the military as we did and remove some parts of the constitution, but most of the constitution have to remain and again it is the judiciary that will have to interpret what remains.
But in a democratic setting, you cannot do what the National Assembly and the Judiciary are empowered by law to do. It is impossible. And look again, when our soldiers started giving interviews to the foreign press that they were being sent to the war front [against Boko Haram] with obsolete weapons, the National Assembly attempted to call the service chiefs and show them the budgets they have been approving over the years for arms and ammunition and for military hardware and software. Where is the money? Have you heard of the hearing again?
TheCable: What do you think they are doing wrong in the power sector?
Buhari: If you could recall, after 1983 elections, NEPA virtually collapsed. But when we came in 1984-1985, we had the late Lukman, an engineer. He was in Plateau when I was working as GOC 2 Armoured Division. I got to know him. He was an extremely truly hardworking engineer of great integrity. I put him in charge of NEPA. If you could recall, I did the tour of NEPA installations and some industries. And we ordered some spare parts mostly of the thermal station and we were using the military C130 aircraft to bring spare parts.
By the time we were removed in August 1985, blackout in Lagos had been forgotten because the thermal station had been made functional. Lagos was the home of industries. Industries were given priority because of employment. If you close the factories, as they have done now, there will be no goods and services. Power is the most important thing for our sustained development. But unfortunately, the PDP government has failed to understand or accept that. Hence money, billions of dollars, goes down the drain.
If from 1999 till now, in my own perception, Kainji, Jebba, Shiroro had been repaired and brought to optimal usage, and we do the thermal stations… it is a question of changing spare parts because the gas is there. The studies of Nigerian petroleum, the studies of 1970s when I became minister of petroleum, showed that Nigeria was a petroleum country in name; mostly it is a gas country. In the east of the Niger, the gas reserve there was fantastic. That was why LNG project was initiated. You cannot initiate LNG except you have a 30-year reserve to back you up. But this means nothing to the PDP government. It is not a priority. That’s why we find ourselves where we are.
TheCable: What’s your position on petroleum industry bill?
Buhari: I know the PIB is a non-issue as far as this government is concerned. So I am telling you practical things that will transform the economy [beyond the PIB]. I will tell you one thing about industries. The Nigerian textile firms in Ikeja, Aba, Kaduna, Kano, they used to employ over 300,000 Nigerians in the 1980s. Now they employ less than 30,000. A serious government would get worried if over 250,000 in one industry are put out of job. Because behind every Nigerian worker are five dependants. This is my problem with PDP government. Unseriousness. That is the textile industry alone.
TheCable: Part of the key recommendations in the PIB is deregulation that will lead to the removal of petrol subsidy. Removal of subsidy is sensitive issue. How do you hope to handle that if you are elected president?
Buhari: When we came into power, technically in December 1983 but we started in 1984, I had been part of Obasanjo’s government in petroleum. Nigeria handed over to the second republic government a relatively physically-secure and economically-safe country. I can’t recall exactly how much foreign reserve we had, but there was physical security and the economy was good. That is what the military handed over to the second republic.
By the time the military came back and I happened to be the head of state, if anybody told you that he knew how much Nigeria was owing, it was a lie. So we had two committees, one international and the other local, to find out the debt Nigeria had accumulated over those years and how. This report has never seen the daylight because up to the time we were removed, it was not brought to us. But when it was eventually brought, by which time I was safely under lock and key, nobody could do anything about it.
Secondly the American president then, Ronald Reagan, sent his friend, General Walters, to me saying we should accept the IMF programme. What was the IMF programme then? World Bank and IMF wanted us to remove the so-called petroleum subsidy, to devalue the naira, to remove the subsidy on flour, as they perceived it. But what we knew was that in some of the states, workers were being owed nine months salaries. I was in Plateau state and I saw the so-called progressive governors crisscrossing this country almost every other month, making a lot of noise when the ordinary worker was not being paid.
I told Walters we were not going to devalue the naira; we were not going to remove any subsidy. And if you recall by the time we were removed, one naira was equal to 1.2 or 1.5 dollars. The naira was run down to N80 to a dollar by General Babangida’s regime. I refused to remove the so-called petroleum subsidy. I said I had been in the petroleum industry for three and a quarter years. I signed the contracts for Warri and Kaduna refineries. I signed the contract for more than 20 depots, from Makurdi to Ilorin to Gusau to Kano to Maiduguri. And then pipes were laid over 3,200 kilometres. Nigeria didn’t borrow a kobo.
I can understand Nigerians being charged the cost of petroleum if you can work it out… because we know how Nigerian crude costs per barrel from the world market, the transportation cost to the refinery, the money for refining and then the transportation to the filling station. I agree Nigerians should pay for that to sustain the industry.
But for someone to say they are subsidising, who is subsidising who? This industry, the prospecting and development, were paid for by the Nigerian people. We spent money to discover the oil. Who then is subsidising who? To come and kill Nigerians, you know, to put that amount of burden on them when their salary is hardly enough for them to eat, pay for their bill of their healthcare, and education of their children. Who are you subsidising? It is Nigerian petrol, it is Nigerian capital that was used to mine it, it is Nigerians doing most of the work, so who are you subsidising? Subsidy for what?
And even then, if you go and interview Tam David-West, when I came back as head of state, and we stopped [illegal] bunkering, Nigeria was choked with product. We were exporting 100,000 barrels per day of refined products because Warri, Kaduna, Port Harcourt alone was doing 250,000 a day, the old refinery and the new one built… and we found out Nigeria was normally consuming about 300,000 barrels a day. All the people that were doing the [illegal] bunkering abandoned their jetties, their barges, because they knew who were sending them to jail or beyond. But now, Nigeria goes to world market and buys petrol as much as any other person does with all the infrastructure in place. That is how efficient the PDP government is (laughter). Click for the rest
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Subject: Re: GMB: Our Hercules By Chiechefulam Ikebuiro
Good write up brother about GMB. He may be the only savior Nigeria has but his image is down the drain. He has to polish his image more and look acceptable and willing to work across ethnicity. His party is viewed across as a Moslems and sectional party and no accommodations for christains.
You blew my mind when you stated that most, if not all his "domestic staff" or better word for it is "house maids" are Christians. What does that mean to an average educated Nigerian. I guess, it shows that he trusted Christians to drive him around, cook, clean and perform minor chores and carting his brief case for him. I bet you, he pays those domestic slaves peanuts.
However, when it comes to picking party leaders, he will select only Moslems. Look at APC top party leaders and assess for your self.
I don't know him but looking at his utterances, public posturing, telling GEJ that he will make governing Nigeria a difficult task for him and he must endure that GEJ fails as a leader after beating him on the poll. Such person should not be our leader. He has made any public condemnation of Boko Haram killing Christians, bombing & killing travelers going to the East, youth coppers, innocents soldiers and police stationed at their respective barracks prior to the attack on his vehicle?
Can you give the reading public federal roads completed in the East, South-South with Petroleum Trust funds when GMB was in charge.
If Nigerians, especially the younger generation will depend on old man like GMB to rescue and make Nigeria a better place for all, then we are in trouble and there is no hope or future for Nigeria and this younger generation.
Thanks for sharing your thought.
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> Now, I may never meet Buhari in my life time, all I just care about is a better Nigeria -A Nigeria where I can live in peace and be proud of .A Nigeria that will provide me and generation unborn , the basic necessities of life. Continuing like this is not an option for me anymore!
> We can NEVER have a revolution in this country as Nigerians love life like crazy, and since we cannot have that, can we at least vote in somebody who can clean this Augean stable?
> I pray the APC does the needful.
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TheCable: A lot of people are saying the problems of Nigeria are so many now, more than what you met in 1983 as military head of state. If you were elected president, what would you do differently from President Jonathan on power supply, for instance? How can we tackle this problem?
Buhari: It cannot be done overnight. The hearings conducted by the National Assembly on NEPA or Power Holding Company of Nigeria, of blessed memory, pension fund and petroleum industry show the extreme mismanagement of what Nigeria stands for… because if you remove petroleum industry, if you remove the organisation of pension funds and power, Nigeria will collapse........
One of my secondary school teachers would call this off point. The question is SPECIFIC. IF elected president in 5 months time what would you do differently? If you don't know what you will do by now when will you know it. This is the issue that we should be debating.What are the alternative economic policies on offer? Will you reverse the privatization of PHCN? Will you return to the era of 'fertilizer subsidies' or continue the current program of direct subsidy to farmers? What is your view about the petroleum industry bill? Will your government build new refineries? what will you do with the present refineries?These are the issues that need discussing.Joe
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On Oct 26, 2014, at 4:48 PM, "Steve Kueberuwa stev...@yahoo.com [NaijaObserver]" <NaijaO...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
"My major problem with Buhari is that he has no clue about the solutions to any of the economic problems facing Nigeria --- and we cannot afford to go back to trade by barter economic policies in 2015!" - Joe the TricksterThe Dodgy One,Buhari doesn't have to. All he is needed for is to enforce the laws of the land and stop Nigeria's number one ailment - CORRUPTION. He is Mr. Rule of Law. That's all.The president doesn't run the economy of the country. The president has an economic teamof highly qualified people that runs the economy. Even the military government of Abacha had Prof. Aluko.If the president did, Nigeria will be back in the 10th century, going by what your principal for which you are vigorously campaigning, Jonathan the Ebelechukwu Azikiwe, knows about anything!Strange that you should now say that you have no problem with a muslim-muslim ticket. A couple of weeks agao, you posted something here that indicated that such a ticket is highly problematic until I pointed out to you that the Abiola- Kinkigbe ticket that won a national election was a muslim-muslim ticket.Keep on lying, 'pastor', Hell ain't half-full!Stevek.Washington, DC, USA
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Reply: Ezeana, I can imagine worst. That is exactly why Buhari is a criminal and leader of criminal gangs. By Buhari starting to play dumb, Buhari and his really really true supporters are setting themselves up to empty CBN. That Gworo man now turned mayor of Kano's activities will be a child's play to Buhari's and his thieving bandits.
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Strange that you should now say that you have no problem with a muslim-muslim ticket. A couple of weeks agao, you posted something here that indicated that such a ticket is highly problematic until I pointed out to you that the Abiola- Kinkigbe ticket that won a national election was a muslim-muslim ticket.
On Oct 26, 2014, at 3:48 PM, "Steve Kueberuwa stev...@yahoo.com [NIgerianWorldForum]" <NIgerianW...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
"My major problem with Buhari is that he has no clue about the solutions to any of the economic problems facing Nigeria --- and we cannot afford to go back to trade by barter economic policies in 2015!" - Joe the TricksterThe Dodgy One,Buhari doesn't have to. All he is needed for is to enforce the laws of the land and stop Nigeria's number one ailment - CORRUPTION. He is Mr. Rule of Law. That's all.The president doesn't run the economy of the country. The president has an economic teamof highly qualified people that runs the economy. Even the military government of Abacha had Prof. Aluko.If the president did, Nigeria will be back in the 10th century, going by what your principal for which you are vigorously campaigning, Jonathan the Ebelechukwu Azikiwe, knows about anything!Strange that you should now say that you have no problem with a muslim-muslim ticket. A couple of weeks agao, you posted something here that indicated that such a ticket is highly problematic until I pointed out to you that the Abiola- Kinkigbe ticket that won a national election was a muslim-muslim ticket.Keep on lying, 'pastor', Hell ain't half-full!Stevek.Washington, DC, USA
A society of supine lambs breeds erect wolves. - StevekA wise man proportions his beliefs to the evidence - David Hume
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My sister Deborah Oden Adie asked the question: how can a former Head of State who earns 300 Million Naira per annum, say he has no N27 Million to buy presidential nomination form? A very pertinent question, I must say. And as someone who believe in knowing the truth before acting, I took my enquiry to the Nigerian Ministry of Finance and this was the response I got: Yes, it is true, all Heads of State collect on the average 23 Million Naira every month, apart from General Buhari. He (General Buhari) objected to collecting most of the allowances, insisting they were bogus and therefore amount to corruption. He personally wrote a letter to the Ministry to that effect. As a result, he collects only N2.3 Million a month, equivalent of 10% of what he is entitled, which he believes is his legitimate earning!! Imagine how honest this man is!! May God give us the wisdom to accept reality" - Oladiran Fadipe
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Buhari is the most selfish Dictator Nigeria has ever produced, the dude will just not give others a chance. How ridiculous is that. It must always be about Buhari. Wow! Thank God 9ja don pass that! "I"
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Is it possible for any honest mind to be a diehard supporter of this bent regime ?
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> Somebody has to face GEJ in 2015. Beating GEJ is another story. With all his faults, GEJ is the only game in town. But wait. APC has not had their primary yet, so we don't know who their choice will be to face GEJ. Wait again. Since I am a senior citizen, I have to vote for Buhari to be APC choice to face GEJ. Plus Buhari has experience in losing to GEJ.
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Ndị Igbo ụmụnna m, Taa bụ Ahịa Orie. Ọ ga-adịrị onye ọbụla mma! Biko onye ọbụla chetakwa ga-abịanye aka n'akwụkwọ na Ahịa Afọ, Novemba 4, 2014. Ụmụnna m, agwọ dịkwanụ n'akịrịkaoo! Onye ọbụla chetakwa ihe ọkụkọ gwara ọkwa mgbe ọ na-achị ya ọchị mgbe a na-aya ya. Ọ gwara ọkwa sị ya chetakwa na ihe a na-aya aya bụ otu. Taa, ọ bụ nwa onye Luo si Kenya amụrụ n'Amaerika. Echi, ọ nwekwara ike ịbụ nwa onye Igbo amụrụ n'ala a. Ma Chukwu ekwekwala! Biko onye ọbụla nwere ike gaa-abịanye aka n'akwụkwọ maka ọ dị mma nke ụmụ na ụmụ-ụmụ anyị. Anyị agaghị ekworo enwe daa elu. Ọ bụ anyị na ha n'obodo a! Onye sịrị na anyị agaghị achị, ọ bụ nne ya ga-achị? (Dee Sam Ọnụnaka Mbakwe). Ndewonụ! Chukwuemeka Uche Arịrịeri-mba |
My dear Igbo kinsmen/women, Today is Orie market. It shall be well with everybody. Please let everybody remember to go out and vote on Afọ market day, November 4, 2014. My people, there is snake in the grass! Everybody should remember what the chicken told the parrot which was laughing at him when he was being dissected. The chicken reminded the parrot that he should remember that all dissectable animals are the same and suffer the same fate! Today, it is the son of a Luo man from Kenya who was born here. Tomorrow, it might be the son of an Igbo man who was born here. But God forbid! Please let everybody who is able plan to go out and vote because of the wellbeing of our children and their posterity. We shall never fall off the tree because of the monkey and its pranks. In the words of the ọchọ pasịnja man, ‘Na we and dem’ in this country! Whoever rejects our ability to rule, would it be his mother then? (apologies to Dee Sam Ọnụnaka Mbakwe) Thank you! Chukwuemeka Uche Aririeri-mba | |
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Make no mistake about it like some have done-there is absolutely no link or relationship between Dr P.H. Bamaiyi and Lt. General Ishaya Bamaiyi! We are walls apart and if you knew the meaning of the first name Pwaveno you would not be making this mistake. But its not your fault because in a country with over 250 ethnic groups its not possible to know where everybody comes from by their names. Secondly make no mistake about it, I am not a supporter of PDP or GEJ and perhaps have criticised him more than you. I have the opportunity to be part of GEJ's regime if I wanted to and could have enriched myself but by providence have not stepped my feet in Nigeria since 2009 for anything! Buhari and GEJ in my opinion are the wrong candidates for Nigeria at this time and unfortunately our political parties have not given any better alternatives. My heart weeps for Nigeria. God have mercy!
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:41 PM, 'Imperial Merchant Trust Ltd' via AfricanWorldForum <africanw...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Pwaveno Bamaiyi,Are you happy with the fraud and cheating going on in this country and pray that the same dream continues in order to quickly generate your "unmerited favour" in billions like your brother, Lt General Ishaya Bamaiyi, the former Abacha chief of army staff ?Is your fear based on the fact that if Buhari was elected president of Nigeria, he would probe the source of income of people like your brother, General Bamaiyi,who voluntarily parted with the sum of $9million while in prison custody to those he knew from day one as certified 419 ?Kindly name any Nigerian known to you ( dead or alive ) that is as stupid as your brother ? Your opinion doesn't count to a person like me; if you don't want Buhari as president, should we tell Jonathan to continue with the mismanagement of our economy or,like your brother, prefer "gentlemen" like barrister Fred Ajidua and "pastor" Ade Elumelu ( aka Ade Bendel ) to govern us ? Lol
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I wish someone could advise Buhari not to deceive himself by contesting as his primarily muslim northern supporters are not telling him the truth. Some of them think Nigeria begins and ends in Daura and environs and because they support him they believe he is a popular candidate but the truth is that whereas Buhari has some qualities that made him a "good" military dictator he will be a misfit for a civilian regime. His parochial approach to matters and do or die politics that makes him feel that only him can save Nigeria leaves much to be desired; not to mention his unguarded statements over the years and his fanatical tendencies. All these are small compared to what disqualifies him most-he was the same man who raped democracy in Nigeria and the only military regime that had no plan of returning back government to civilians in the history of Nigeria but today wants to reap where he did not sow! I wish him a happy retirement from politics come 2015 elections!
On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 11:48 PM, 'Ezeana Igirigi Achusim' via AfricanWorldForum <africanw...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Nwadiana:When I say that GEJ is not expecting to run opposed, and that he would love to face Buhari again, your post below confirms it. If Buhari faces GEJ in 2015, GEJ will trounce him. Mind you, I will not be voting. Could you believe that where I was last night people were only discussing what GEJ should do after the 2015 election. They take GEJ's victory in 2015 as a done deal. And I keep asking if GEJ is the one sponsoring Buhari for an easy victory? How can a guy who does not know if he has money in his bank account or not run for president? Please no one should call me names to hurt my feelings. Please don't crucify the messenger, me. Just chew on the message.And I amEzeana Igirigi AchusimOdi-IsaaNwa Dim OriohaSent from my iPhone
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Folks,IF Buhari becomes APC presidential candidate I really don't have an issue with his picking a fellow Muslim as his VP candidate. If he wants to introduce total sharia then he will find out quickly that Nigeria is a multi religious country where no one can impose his own religion on others.My major problem with Buhari is that he has no clue about the solutions to any of the economic problems facing Nigeria --- and we cannot afford to go back to trade by barter economic policies in 2015!Here are a few of his answers to Cable's questions:TheCable: A lot of people are saying the problems of Nigeria are so many now, more than what you met in 1983 as military head of state. If you were elected president, what would you do differently from President Jonathan on power supply, for instance? How can we tackle this problem?Buhari: It cannot be done overnight. The hearings conducted by the National Assembly on NEPA or Power Holding Company of Nigeria, of blessed memory, pension fund and petroleum industry show the extreme mismanagement of what Nigeria stands for… because if you remove petroleum industry, if you remove the organisation of pension funds and power, Nigeria will collapse........One of my secondary school teachers would call this off point. The question is SPECIFIC. IF elected president in 5 months time what would you do differently? If you don't know what you will do by now when will you know it. This is the issue that we should be debating.What are the alternative economic policies on offer? Will you reverse the privatization of PHCN? Will you return to the era of 'fertilizer subsidies' or continue the current program of direct subsidy to farmers? What is your view about the petroleum industry bill? Will your government build new refineries? what will you do with the present refineries?These are the issues that need discussing.Joe
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Buhari: It cannot be done overnight. The hearings conducted by the National Assembly on NEPA or Power Holding Company of Nigeria, of blessed memory, pension fund and petroleum industry show the extreme mismanagement of what Nigeria stands for… because if you remove petroleum industry, if you remove the organisation of pension funds and power, Nigeria will collapse........
One of my secondary school teachers would call this off point. The question is SPECIFIC. IF elected president in 5 months time what would you do differently? If you don't know what you will do by now when will you know it. This is the issue that we should be debating.
What are the alternative economic policies on offer? Will you reverse the privatization of PHCN? Will you return to the era of 'fertilizer subsidies' or continue the current program of direct subsidy to farmers? What is your view about the petroleum industry bill? Will your government build new refineries? what will you do with the present refineries?
These are the issues that need discussing.
Joe
On Sunday, October 26, 2014 2:09 PM, 'Afis' via AfricanWorldForum <africanw...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Buhari is a Muslim Fanatic.
Lies won't change it.
Truth will set Buhari Free.
I like APC, but......
Buhari is not Ideal.
Hey, you all Nigerians have a nice Sunday!
SHIKENA,
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Well said Bro
“What Do Nigerians Want Me To Do?†, Buhari Speaks On The Perception that He Is A Fundamentalist
FEATUREDNEWSOct 25, 2014
Former Head of State, General Muhammdu Buhari has said that he has demonstrated to Nigerians that he is not a fundamentalist and therefore has nothing more to do to change their perception.
He spoke in respect of the perception as been made to believe in some quarters that he is an extremist who will Islamize the country if he becomes the president.
Buhari who is a presidential hopeful under the platform of the All Progressives Congress in an exclusive interview with the cable said “Nigerians will always uncover impossible room for manoeuvre for politicians. I had to face one of the governors during one of our party’s meetings [over the issue of religion].
“In 2003, I chose Chuba Okadigbo as my running mate. He was a Roman Catholic. He was an Igbo. In 2007, I picked Edwin Ume-Ezeoke. He was a Roman Catholic. He was an Igbo. And in 2010, I chose even a pastor. Pastor Tunde Bakare.
“Honestly, what do Nigerians want me to do? If they don’t believe I’m not a fundamentalist, what else can I do?â€
The retired General who said he is keeping an open mind about the possibility of picking a Muslim as his running mate if he emerges the flagbearer of his party said This new phenomenon of religion is another blackmail political confusionists in Nigeria are bringing to the fore.â€
“I have not absolutely closed my mind to picking a Christian or Muslim as running mate if I get the ticket. Because I firmly believe that Nigerians, having gone through what they have gone through, realise it is not a matter of religion, but a matter of Nigeria.
“And the main religions, Christianity and Islam, they know and they believe in the almighty God. The question of stealing and short-changing people in the name of religion should stop,†he said.
He likened his situation to that of Moshood Abiola, a southern Muslim, who picked Babagana Kingibe, a northern Muslim, as running mate in the 1993 presidential election. The Muslim-Muslim ticket went on to win an election that is still considered by many as the most credible in Nigeria’s history.
He also made reference to the 1961 northern house of assembly election, when Ibrahim Imam, a Kanuri Muslim from Borno, won an election to represent Tivland, a Catholic domain in the middle belt, after being sponsored by Joseph Tarka, the leading Tiv politician then.
He said religion cannot be an issue if he wins APC’s ticket and goes ahead to win the presidential election, because of the background of many political leaders from the south-west. The wives of Bola Tinubu, APC national leader; Oyo governor, Abiola Ajimobi; Lagos governor, Babatunde Fashola; Ogun governor, Ibikunle Amosun; and former APC interim chairman, Bisi Akande, are all Christians, Buhari pointed out. “For goodness sake, the children of these political leaders were bred and brought up by Christian mothers. You think those people, wherever they participate, they will bring a religious issue? What kind of people are we? Nigerians will always bring something to cause confusion while we are trying to stabilise the system,†he said.
Full interview
http://thecable.ng/exclusive-interview-im-opposed-muslim-muslim-ticket-says-buhari/2
EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: I’m not opposed to Muslim-Muslim ticket, says Buhari
October 25
14:00
2014
👤by TheCable
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TheCable: Why should Nigerians prefer you to any other candidate in the presidential race?
Buhari: We need to stabilise the system. And the beauty of democracy is competition. I honestly welcome the competition. I have tried to be elected president three times and I failed three times, and I ended up in the Supreme Court three times. I try to explain to those who are interested why I have been ending up in the Supreme Court. Not because I was hoping that the court would change the decision of the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) announcing that it was the PDP that won, but I wanted to get it on the record that when we are trying to stabilise this system, these are part of the difficulties. We provided evidences at the tribunals. There are people who try really to see that the system stabilises, to make sure it reaches credible and international standards. That is a role I have been trying to play all along.
TheCable: So what qualities stand you out from other candidates?
Buhari: That is an unfair question. I would not like to blow my own trumpet. But I think Nigerians are the judges. The only thing I would say is that I have been a governor. To begin with my career as a military man, from lieutenant colonel, that is one pip, in charge of 36 people, to a general commanding a division… I am proud to say that I am the only officer in the Nigeria army that commanded three out of the four divisions then in the Nigeria army: the second division in Ibadan, the third armoured division in Jos and the fourth division in Lagos, which was moved to Enugu and renamed 82 division. I commanded three divisions out of the four. And then I became command-in-chief, as short as it was, for 20 months.
And politically, I was governor of the northeast, which is now six states, comprising Yobe, Borno, Adamawa, Gombe, Bauchi and Taraba. From there, when Gen. Murtala Muhammed was assassinated [in 1976], and there were additional states in the country and I was moved to Lagos, I was sworn in as member of the Supreme Military Council under Obasanjo’s government and then made federal commissioner of petroleum and chairman of the Nigeria National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC). And from there I went to the War College in the US, came back and became head of state. And I ended up in jail for three and a quarter years (general laughter). After that, I went home and I decided to join partisan politics in April 2002. So anything a Nigerian politician wants to be, I have been, although in khaki. So I have been attempting since 2003 to go back in civil dress and play partisan politics.
TheCable: A lot of people are saying the problems of Nigeria are so many now, more than what you met in 1983 as military head of state. If you were elected president, what would you do differently from President Jonathan on power supply, for instance? How can we tackle this problem?
Buhari: It cannot be done overnight. The hearings conducted by the National Assembly on NEPA or Power Holding Company of Nigeria, of blessed memory, pension fund and petroleum industry show the extreme mismanagement of what Nigeria stands for… because if you remove petroleum industry, if you remove the organisation of pension funds and power, Nigeria will collapse. I refer you to my declaration that in 1999 when the PDP came, power generation was hovering between 3,000 and 4,000 megawatts. It is now hovering between that number again after $20 billion had been spent. This is what the hearings exposed. And nobody has been punished.
What happened to the $20 billion? What happened to pension funds? What happened to another $20 billion exposed by a former governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria [Lamido Sanusi]? All these things the PDP governments between 1999 and now have not been able to explain to Nigerians. And the remarkable thing about Nigeria is that: because having been a minister, governor and head of state, you do not go to any parastatal or any ministry without meeting financial instructions and administrative instructions, but Nigerians have the audacity at each level to cast that away and keep doing what they like. And no one is being punished.
Buhari says he will support whoever gets APC ticket if he doesn’t get it
TheCable: Would you like to dig up the report before we move forward?
Buhari: If you try to do that, the state will immediately collapse because a lot of the institutions have been compromised. With whom are you going to work? My own belief now is that you just have to draw a line and move forward. But since cases are in the court no matter what, you have to allow the judiciary to do its job. We can hurry them up a bit, but we must allow the judiciary because it is not a profession you can take over their duties. It is the third arm of government. We can come as the military as we did and remove some parts of the constitution, but most of the constitution have to remain and again it is the judiciary that will have to interpret what remains.
But in a democratic setting, you cannot do what the National Assembly and the Judiciary are empowered by law to do. It is impossible. And look again, when our soldiers started giving interviews to the foreign press that they were being sent to the war front [against Boko Haram] with obsolete weapons, the National Assembly attempted to call the service chiefs and show them the budgets they have been approving over the years for arms and ammunition and for military hardware and software. Where is the money? Have you heard of the hearing again?
TheCable: What do you think they are doing wrong in the power sector?
Buhari: If you could recall, after 1983 elections, NEPA virtually collapsed. But when we came in 1984-1985, we had the late Lukman, an engineer. He was in Plateau when I was working as GOC 2 Armoured Division. I got to know him. He was an extremely truly hardworking engineer of great integrity. I put him in charge of NEPA. If you could recall, I did the tour of NEPA installations and some industries. And we ordered some spare parts mostly of the thermal station and we were using the military C130 aircraft to bring spare parts.
By the time we were removed in August 1985, blackout in Lagos had been forgotten because the thermal station had been made functional. Lagos was the home of industries. Industries were given priority because of employment. If you close the factories, as they have done now, there will be no goods and services. Power is the most important thing for our sustained development. But unfortunately, the PDP government has failed to understand or accept that. Hence money, billions of dollars, goes down the drain.
If from 1999 till now, in my own perception, Kainji, Jebba, Shiroro had been repaired and brought to optimal usage, and we do the thermal stations… it is a question of changing spare parts because the gas is there. The studies of Nigerian petroleum, the studies of 1970s when I became minister of petroleum, showed that Nigeria was a petroleum country in name; mostly it is a gas country. In the east of the Niger, the gas reserve there was fantastic. That was why LNG project was initiated. You cannot initiate LNG except you have a 30-year reserve to back you up. But this means nothing to the PDP government. It is not a priority. That’s why we find ourselves where we are.
TheCable: What’s your position on petroleum industry bill?
Buhari: I know the PIB is a non-issue as far as this government is concerned. So I am telling you practical things that will transform the economy [beyond the PIB]. I will tell you one thing about industries. The Nigerian textile firms in Ikeja, Aba, Kaduna, Kano, they used to employ over 300,000 Nigerians in the 1980s. Now they employ less than 30,000. A serious government would get worried if over 250,000 in one industry are put out of job. Because behind every Nigerian worker are five dependants. This is my problem with PDP government. Unseriousness. That is the textile industry alone.
TheCable: Part of the key recommendations in the PIB is deregulation that will lead to the removal of petrol subsidy. Removal of subsidy is sensitive issue. How do you hope to handle that if you are elected president?
Buhari: When we came into power, technically in December 1983 but we started in 1984, I had been part of Obasanjo’s government in petroleum. Nigeria handed over to the second republic government a relatively physically-secure and economically-safe country. I can’t recall exactly how much foreign reserve we had, but there was physical security and the economy was good. That is what the military handed over to the second republic.
By the time the military came back and I happened to be the head of state, if anybody told you that he knew how much Nigeria was owing, it was a lie. So we had two committees, one international and the other local, to find out the debt Nigeria had accumulated over those years and how. This report has never seen the daylight because up to the time we were removed, it was not brought to us. But when it was eventually brought, by which time I was safely under lock and key, nobody could do anything about it.
Secondly the American president then, Ronald Reagan, sent his friend, General Walters, to me saying we should accept the IMF programme. What was the IMF programme then? World Bank and IMF wanted us to remove the so-called petroleum subsidy, to devalue the naira, to remove the subsidy on flour, as they perceived it. But what we knew was that in some of the states, workers were being owed nine months salaries. I was in Plateau state and I saw the so-called progressive governors crisscrossing this country almost every other month, making a lot of noise when the ordinary worker was not being paid.
I told Walters we were not going to devalue the naira; we were not going to remove any subsidy. And if you recall by the time we were removed, one naira was equal to 1.2 or 1.5 dollars. The naira was run down to N80 to a dollar by General Babangida’s regime. I refused to remove the so-called petroleum subsidy. I said I had been in the petroleum industry for three and a quarter years. I signed the contracts for Warri and Kaduna refineries. I signed the contract for more than 20 depots, from Makurdi to Ilorin to Gusau to Kano to Maiduguri. And then pipes were laid over 3,200 kilometres. Nigeria didn’t borrow a kobo.
I can understand Nigerians being charged the cost of petroleum if you can work it out… because we know how Nigerian crude costs per barrel from the world market, the transportation cost to the refinery, the money for refining and then the transportation to the filling station. I agree Nigerians should pay for that to sustain the industry.
But for someone to say they are subsidising, who is subsidising who? This industry, the prospecting and development, were paid for by the Nigerian people. We spent money to discover the oil. Who then is subsidising who? To come and kill Nigerians, you know, to put that amount of burden on them when their salary is hardly enough for them to eat, pay for their bill of their healthcare, and education of their children. Who are you subsidising? It is Nigerian petrol, it is Nigerian capital that was used to mine it, it is Nigerians doing most of the work, so who are you subsidising? Subsidy for what?
And even then, if you go and interview Tam David-West, when I came back as head of state, and we stopped [illegal] bunkering, Nigeria was choked with product. We were exporting 100,000 barrels per day of refined products because Warri, Kaduna, Port Harcourt alone was doing 250,000 a day, the old refinery and the new one built… and we found out Nigeria was normally consuming about 300,000 barrels a day. All the people that were doing the [illegal] bunkering abandoned their jetties, their barges, because they knew who were sending them to jail or beyond. But now, Nigeria goes to world market and buys petrol as much as any other person does with all the infrastructure in place. That is how efficient the PDP government is (laughter). Click for the rest
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This is GMB a Muslim fanatic according a Nigerian who worked with him at the time:
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"During his time as Commandant of the 3rd Armoured in Jos, GMB, on his own accord exempted Christians from duties on sundays.
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This is GMB a Muslim fanatic according a Nigerian who worked with him at the time:
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"During his time as Commandant of the 3rd Armoured in Jos, GMB, on his own accord exempted Christians from duties on sundays.
Interestingly, he denied Muslims the same right on Friday, on account of the absence of a work free day in Islam.
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We all hate corruption but the problem is that ALL the sad stories of waste and corruption that you highlighted are on both sides of the political divide.Sanusi also spent N10bn on air charter in one year when he was CBN governor. He wrote off N3.8bn loan for his friend and benefactor, Bukola Saraki and gave N5bn consultancy contract to El-Rufai without competitive bidding or open tender. When FRCN wanted to probe him (with the option of allowing TV cameras), he went to court and got an injunction. Nothing has been heard on it so far and the CBN financials remain unapproved for about two years now.Do you also remember the TRUE FACE OF LAGOS? These guys brought up weighty allegations of corruption against Babatunde Raji Fashola in the public space just before the last election. The Lagos State Assembly decided to probe the allegations but, instead of defending himself, Fashola went to a court in IKORODU and got an injunction stopping the legislative investigation. No word has been heard on the matter since then. And Fashola is now getting ready to be Buhari’s running mate if popular permutations are anything to go by.What I'm showing you is that corruption and waste have no political party. Now you tell us Buhari will help us to flush out corruption, and I presume that would be across all political divides, including his sponsors for the presidency. I believe it's not too much of us to ask HOW. We're tired of hearing WHAT he could do but HOW.
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Alagba Buska,If a man can assist in fighting corruption and indiscipline in a bent and dysfunctional society like Nigeria I think he has scored at least 65 % of the available marks .What is difficult is spelling out economic policies if the leadership is honest and straightforward ? Can you achieve anything positive on the economic front in an extremely corrupt country which the rest of the world cried out when the government gave out our $1.1 billion ( 172 billion naira) "oil well compensation" to one Ijaw man, chief Dan Etete ? Our present finance minister, Mrs Okonjo Iweala was trained at Harvard and MIT and I can tell you that corruption under this Jonathan regime has impacted negatively on her overall output .The truth of the matter is that some extremists on the other side don't want Buhari to come to power because of his religion or because he is a northerner or because he is coming to challenge the status quo which benefits them .What I think should interest all trained and free minds is good governance which is possible under and decent and disciplined man like Buhari. As I stated several times,I don't see Buhari as a saint or call him an angel but am sure Nigeria under him would be run far better and more accountable to the masses than what is going on under Goodluck Jonathan where a serving minister spent public money (another whopping sum of 10 billion Naira ) on maintaining 3 private jets and the president encouraged her to challenge the House of Representatives investigation into this fraud through a court injunction. Is that fear to you and I ? Are we all fools ? Do you believe such injustice to the nation is possible elsewhere or under a man like Buhari, who based on allegation of corruption sacked a notable Fulani army generals who played a major role in the coup that brought him to power in December 1983 ? We all want Nigeria to be like the United States,we want our country to look like the UK, Germany, France etc but we are not prepared to free our minds from the clutches of injustice, corruption, indiscipline,tribalism and religious intolerance etc; I think we need to change .Let all Nigerians irrespective of their religions, regions or tribes join hands together to flush out the fraudulent and divisive leadership out of the Aso Rock come 2015!
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Alagba Segun Sanni, am reading you very loud and clear and I have no qualm aligning with yours so farThanks for being very real, may our tribe continue to multiply in our midstLets hope the Buharist will not resort to name calling and personal insult as their answer to yours
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On Oct 27, 2014, at 5:28 PM, "Segun Sanni therea...@yahoo.com [NaijaObserver]" <NaijaO...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
It's only in Nigeria that a president could expect to be elected without spelling out how he wishes to carry out his plans. When Mitt Romney outlined all his major 'plans' in the last American elections, he was asked to balance the account and tell Americans how he wished to finance the plans. He could not and that contributed greatly to spelling doom to his ambition.What programme of action does Buhari articulate? His main 'product' is anti-corruption yet nobody knows how he intends to do it. We have a right, nay duty, to know!Are we assuming that those financing him are imbeciles who are just blindly financing him without assurance that they're protected? Is Buhari going to constitute military tribunals like he did in his days as military head of state? Is he going to sit in judgment over the corrupt elements by himself? These and other relevant questions should be answered.
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If Buhari articulates his strategy on how to combat corruption,I bet some people won't like to vote for him .Oruko ti a so omo eni, inu eni nii gbe .
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On Oct 27, 2014, at 15:45, Segun Sanni therea...@yahoo.com [NaijaObserver] <NaijaO...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
What is Buhari’s strategy to address corruption in a warped democratic arrangement like ours? Has he articulated that strategy to anyone? Is he going to declare martial law to address the problem? Is he going to take over the function of the courts to prosecute and punish culprits? Is he going to descend on those providing his campaign funds from their ill-gotten wealth? Is that the understanding of the 'thieves' that they're installing Buhari to come and descend on them?Does Buhari’s reputation as Mr Clean align with hobnobbing with economic looters all in the name of winning an election? Does that reputation tally with defending Abacha (the most corrupt Nigerian leader ON RECORD) as not stealing despite that billions of dollars of our money were recovered from his accounts in several foreign bank accounts all over the world?Questions, questions, questions.
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Around mid 1970s or so, the Chilean leadership under the army General Pinochet sent their young and top economists to Chicago Shool, Harvard and MIT to learn monetarism mainly under the tutelage of the globally respected economist, late Milton Friedman .When the US trained economists returned to work in Chile, it's on records that they achieved almost nothing to effect the required changes because the theories learned in America couldn't address the economic realities in a corrupt country like Chile. If the problems of corruption, greed and indiscipline are not well addressed in Nigeria, 30 Nobel Prize winners in economics can't assist our country out of this predicament . Let's learn how to put the first thing first in order to achieve a lasting benefit for our society ; once you address the aforementioned vices, all other vices would automatically address themselves .
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STEVEK, BUHARI DOES NOT NEED TO BE AN ECONOMIST TO ASPIRE TO BE PRESIDENT. HE DOES NOT NEED TO BE AN EXPERT IN ANY FIELD TO BE PRESIDENT. BUHARI ANSWERED THE QUESTION VERY WELL BUT JOE OUT OF PURE BAD BELLY JUST TOOK AN ASPECT OF HIS ANSWER AND WANT TO MAKE AN ISSUE OUT OF IT. JOE OUGHT TO HAVE REPRODUCED THE ENTIRE ANSWERS GIVEN BY BUHARI NOT JUST AN ASPECT. THE ENTIRE ANSWERS MUST BE GIVEN AN HOLISTIC CONSTRUCTION NOT JUST AN ASPECT. THIS IS HOW DOCUMENTS ARE CONSTRUED.
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Even the President of America cannot utter this nonsense. Let us assume you can pull the stunt, what having an American visa be to Joe? Is a life or death matter that one must have an American visa? Incredible.OJ
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What programme of action does Buhari articulate? His main 'product' is anti-corruption yet nobody knows how he intends to do it. We have a right, nay duty, to know!Are we assuming that those financing him are imbeciles who are just blindly financing him without assurance that they're protected? Is Buhari going to constitute military tribunals like he did in his days as military head of state? Is he going to sit in judgment over the corrupt elements by himself? These and other relevant questions should be answered.
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“What Do Nigerians Want Me To Do?”, Buhari Speaks On The Perception that He Is A Fundamentalist
FEATUREDNEWSOct 25, 2014
Former Head of State, General Muhammdu Buhari has said that he has demonstrated to Nigerians that he is not a fundamentalist and therefore has nothing more to do to change their perception.
He spoke in respect of the perception as been made to believe in some quarters that he is an extremist who will Islamize the country if he becomes the president.
Buhari who is a presidential hopeful under the platform of the All Progressives Congress in an exclusive interview with the cable said “Nigerians will always uncover impossible room for manoeuvre for politicians. I had to face one of the governors during one of our party’s meetings [over the issue of religion].
“In 2003, I chose Chuba Okadigbo as my running mate. He was a Roman Catholic. He was an Igbo. In 2007, I picked Edwin Ume-Ezeoke. He was a Roman Catholic. He was an Igbo. And in 2010, I chose even a pastor. Pastor Tunde Bakare.
“Honestly, what do Nigerians want me to do? If they don’t believe I’m not a fundamentalist, what else can I do?”
The retired General who said he is keeping an open mind about the possibility of picking a Muslim as his running mate if he emerges the flagbearer of his party said This new phenomenon of religion is another blackmail political confusionists in Nigeria are bringing to the fore.”
“I have not absolutely closed my mind to picking a Christian or Muslim as running mate if I get the ticket. Because I firmly believe that Nigerians, having gone through what they have gone through, realise it is not a matter of religion, but a matter of Nigeria.
“And the main religions, Christianity and Islam, they know and they believe in the almighty God. The question of stealing and short-changing people in the name of religion should stop,” he said.
He likened his situation to that of Moshood Abiola, a southern Muslim, who picked Babagana Kingibe, a northern Muslim, as running mate in the 1993 presidential election. The Muslim-Muslim ticket went on to win an election that is still considered by many as the most credible in Nigeria’s history.
He also made reference to the 1961 northern house of assembly election, when Ibrahim Imam, a Kanuri Muslim from Borno, won an election to represent Tivland, a Catholic domain in the middle belt, after being sponsored by Joseph Tarka, the leading Tiv politician then.
He said religion cannot be an issue if he wins APC’s ticket and goes ahead to win the presidential election, because of the background of many political leaders from the south-west. The wives of Bola Tinubu, APC national leader; Oyo governor, Abiola Ajimobi; Lagos governor, Babatunde Fashola; Ogun governor, Ibikunle Amosun; and former APC interim chairman, Bisi Akande, are all Christians, Buhari pointed out. “For goodness sake, the children of these political leaders were bred and brought up by Christian mothers. You think those people, wherever they participate, they will bring a religious issue? What kind of people are we? Nigerians will always bring something to cause confusion while we are trying to stabilise the system,” he said.
Full interview
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