Re: Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

[Asagwara, Ken (EAL)]

Folks:

 

Many of you may have read the below. But in case you have not, read it and your take is as good as mine. Particularly, Michael Idowu, a few days ago, you queried, “...who made Ahmed Bola Tinubu a Yoruba leader? where and when was that consensus arrived at??? please tell us more. If anything Alhaji Ahmed Bola Tinubu is one of the leaders of APC and not the leader of the Yoruba.” Thanks, Michael

 

You also, apparently disapproved my calling out the Yoruba master idiot and country bumpkin, Afis Deinde Odidere for insulting some Yoruba Elders and Leaders. Well, read the piece below by Adebayo Adeyinka and see that you were wrong on both. A Yoruba leader who knows and understands it better than you is calling Bola Ahmed Tinubu, the Asiwaju of Yoruba land to come to the rescue.

 

It is also contains a lesson or two for those of you that keep pounding your hairy chests under playing the role and importance of the Igbo ethnic nation in the Nigerian question. Enjoy!

 

Cheers.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

 

 

Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

 

Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

Posted on June 18, 2016 by Bode Dolu

I am compelled to write this open letter to you because of the state of affairs of the Yoruba nation. Firstly, I wish to acknowledge that fate has put you in a prime position to determine to a large extent the direction that the Yoruba people will go. The indisputable truth is that one may quarrel with your politics but your sagacity is never in doubt. Even those who don’t see eye to eye with you agree that you are imbued with unusual native intelligence, uncommon people skills and unrivaled foresight. You, more than any other person, has been the game changer since the advent of democracy in 1999. It is for these reasons that I have chosen to direct this letter to you.
My singular purpose is to tug at the strings of your heart. I am not writing to appeal to partisan considerations but to see, if per chance, I can pour out my heart to you in a manner of speaking. God has blessed you even beyond your wildest imagination. You have installed Senators and Governors. You have removed Governors and even a President. You have also installed a President. There is nothing you have wished for or desired that you didn’t get. Fortune has smiled on you. Goodwill follows you everywhere you go. You have done very well- more than most men ever will. However, there is one area that is begging for your urgent attention. This area may well define you and all you have ever achieved.

This matter, in my opinion, is the only difference between you and the late sage, Chief Obafemi Awolowo. Let me restate for the purpose of emphasis that this is the area in which the late sage and Leader of the Yorubas stand head and shoulders above you. It is the reason his name has been a constant denominator in our regional and national politics. It is the reason politicians, friends and foes invoke his name for political advantage and personal glory. It is also the reason why we can’t stop talking about him almost thirty years after his death. What will anyone say about you thirty years after you have transited?

Asiwaju Sir, you may be wondering what I’m talking about? It is the issue of legacy. According to Peter Strople, ‘Legacy is not leaving something for people, it is leaving something in people’. Legacy is building something that outlives you. Legacy is greater than currency. In the words of Leonard Sweet, ‘ What you do is your history. What you set in motion is your legacy’. You can’t live forever, Sir. No one can. But you can create something that will. Enough of speaking in parables- I shall now speak plainly.
When destiny brought you on the scene, we were enamoured because you championed the case for true federalism. It was your belief then that the Yoruba nation will fare better under a restructured arrangement than under the type of unitary government we run while pretending by calling it a federal government. Everyone knows that there is nothing federal about our government at all. If truth must be told, the Yoruba nation has fared very badly since the advent of our new democracy. And this is not about holding power at the centre.

Let me bring this home: someone passed a comment recently that he would want Biafra to become a reality because he knows the Igbo nation will survive. That comment led me to deeper introspection as I wondered if the Yorubas can truly survive. Let me cite my first example. From Oyo to Osun, Ogun to Ondo, Ekiti to Kwara and Lagos, hardly will one see any serious industry or manufacturing concern owned by a Yoruba person. I am not talking about portfolio businesses or one-man business concerns. Most industries in Oyo State are owned by the Lebanese. The native business and industry gurus who dominated the landscape- Nathaniel Idowu, Amos Adegoke, Lekan Salami, Alao Arisekola, Adeola Odutola, Jimoh Odutola, Chief Theophilus Adediran Oni and others- are all gone with no credible replacements. I’m sure you remember the tyre factory of the Odutolas and how Jimoh Odutola was even asked by the Governments of Kenya and Ghana to set up a similar factory in their countries.

Chief Theophilus Adediran Oni, popularly called T.A Oni & Sons started the first indigenous construction company in Nigeria. He willed his residence- Goodwill House, to the Oyo/Western state government, to be used as a paediatrics Hospital, which is now known as T.A Oni Memorial Children Hospital at Ring Road in Ibadan. This sprawling family Estate and residence was cited on a 15acre piece of land, 65 rooms, with modern conveniences, Olympic Swimming Pool and stable for Horses, etc.
People like Chief Bode Akindele started companies like Standard Breweries and Dr Pepper Soft drink factory at Alomaja in Ibadan. Broking House built by the late Femi Johnson, an insurance magnate, still stands glittering in the mid-day sun as an epitome to a rich history that Ibadan has. The most serious and only notable Yoruba entrepreneur we have now is Michael Adenuga. I say this quite consciously because most of the other names are oil and gas barons. Most of what stood as testaments of industry in Oyo State are gone— Exide Batteries, Leyland Autos and many others. In its place are shopping malls and road side markets but no nation develops through buying and selling alone- especially when you’re not actually producing what you’re selling.
Hypermarkets and supermarkets have taken over because of the need to feed our insatiable consumer-appetite and foreign tastes. In one instance, an ancient landmark in the form of a hotel was demolished to pave way for a mall. That is how low we have sunk. If our past is better than our present- if we always look back with nostalgia frequently, then there is a problem.

The case of other states is not different. Osun’s case is pathetic. Ditto for Ondo and Ekiti. Ogun State can boast of some factories at Sango-Otta and Agbara axis but most of them are not owned by the Yorubas. There is no significant pharmaceutical company owned by any Yoruba except for Bond Chemicals in Awe, Oyo State- and its wallet share is very insignificant. For Lagos State, more than 70% of the manufacturing concerns and major industries in the State are owned by the Igbos. If the Igbos were to stop paying tax in Lagos State, the IGR of Lagos State will reduce by over 60%.
In contrast, Sir, go to the South East and look at the manufacturing concerns in Onitsha, Aba and Nnewi. Please don’t forget those were areas ravaged by civil war a mere forty something years ago. The Igbos have certainly made tremendous progress but the Yoruba nation has regressed. I wish to state that this letter is not meant to whip up primordial considerations or ethnic sentiments but just to put things in proper perspective.
Asiwaju, I will like to also talk about the state of education in the Yoruba nation. Our education has gone to the dogs. We have a bunch of mis-educated and ill-educated young men and women roaming the streets. Ibadan, for instance, had the first University in Nigeria and the first set of research centres in Nigeria ( The Forestry Research Institute, the Cocoa Research Institute (CRIN), The Nigerian Cereal Research Institute Moor Plantation (NCRI), the NIHORT (Nigerian Institute of Horticultural Research), the NISER (Nigerian Institute of Social and Economic Research), IAR&T (Institute of Agriculture, Research and Training), amongst several others). Ibadan was the bastion of scholarship with people like Wole Soyinka, JP Clark, D.O Fagunwa and Amos Tutuola as residents. In the May/June 2015 West African Senior Secondary Certificate Examination, Abia came tops. Anambra came 2nd while Edo was 3rd. Lagos placed 6th while Osun and Oyo was 29th and 26th. Ekiti was 11th, Ondo State was 13th and Ogun State was 19th. In 2013 WASSCE, only Lagos and Ogun States were the Yoruba States above the national average. If we do an analysis of how Lagos placed 6th in 2015, you will discover that it was substantially because of other nationalities resident in Lagos.

For proof, please look no further than the winners of the Spelling Bee competition which has produced One-Day Governors in Lagos State. Since inception in 2001, other nationalities have won the competition six times (Ebuka Anisiobi in 2001, Ovuwhore Etiti in 2002, Abundance Ikechukwu in 2006, Daniel Osunbor in 2008, Akpakpan Iniodu Jones in 2011 and Lilian Ogbuefi in 2012). Sir, there is something seriously wrong about our state of education. From the vintage times of Obafemi Awolowo who initiated ‘free education’, we have regressed into a most parlous state.

Let me talk about roads, housing and infrastructure . The first dualized road in Nigeria, the Queen Elizabeth road from Mokola to Agodi in Ibadan was formally commissioned by Queen Elizabeth in 1956. The first Housing Estate in Nigeria is Bodija Housing Estate (also in Ibadan) which was built in 1958. The state of roads in the Yoruba nation has become pathetic. Our hinterland are still largely rural. Even some state capitals like Osogbo and Ado-Ekiti are big villages when you compare them to towns in the South East. How many new estates have been built over the last decade? Even Ajoda New Town lies in ruins.

We have abandoned the farm settlement strategy of the Western Region and only pay lip service to agriculture. Instead of feeding others like we once did, others now feed us. We plant no tomatoes, no pepper and the basic food that we require. The Indians have bought the large expanse of water body that we have in Onigambari village. The water body in Oke Ogun of Oyo State can provide enough fish to feed the whole of the South West. From being a major cocoa exporter many years ago, one can point to just a few vestiges of factories that still deal with Cocoa in the Yoruba nation. 80% of Cocoa processing industries in the South West have been shut down. The Chinese have taken over the cashew belt at Ogbomoso in Oyo State. They have even edged out the indigenes as brokers.

They now come to the cashew belt to buy from the local farmers, sell on the spot to other Chinese exporters who now process the cashew nuts and import them back into Nigeria at a premium. Sir, there are only 7 major cashew processing plants in Nigeria and you can check out the ownership. The glory has departed from the Yoruba nation.
Apart from Asejire, Ede, Ikere Gorge and Oyan dams built ages ago, where are the new dams to cater for increased population and water capacity for the Yoruba nation? How have we improved on what our heroes past left us? Maybe apart from certain areas in Lagos State, others can’t even supply their citizens with pipe-borne water.
Our youth which we used to take pride in are largely a mass of unemployed and unemployable people. Have you noticed the abundance of street urchins, area boys, touts and ‘agberos’ that we now have all across the Yoruba nation? Have you noticed the swell in the ranks of NURTW (I mean no disrespect to an otherwise noble union)? Have you noticed the increase in the number of Yoruba beggars? There was a time that it was taboo for a Yoruba man to beg- but no more. The spirit of apprenticeship is dead. There was a time that people who learn vocational skills celebrate what we referred to as ‘freedom’. While that is largely moribund now in the Yoruba nation, the Igbos still practice it with great success.

The only thing we can boldly say the Yoruba nation controls is the information machinery- the press. We own largely the newspapers- the Nation, Punch, Nigerian Tribune, TV Continental and a few others. It is because of our control of this information machinery that we have rewritten the narrative in the country with the misguided self-belief that things are normal and we are making progress. A look beyond the surface will prove that this is so untrue. We are largely divided. For the first time in the history of the Yoruba nation, religion is about to divide us further- and it is starting from Osun State. You are married to a Christian. My own father-in-law is an Alhaji. That is how we have peacefully co-existed but the fabrics are about to be torn to shreds because of poor management of issues. Afenifere has been reduced to a shadow of itself.
OPC that once defended Yoruba interests has gone into oblivion. Yoruba elders have been vilified in the name of politics and partisanship. It is no longer news to see teenagers throwing stones at their elders because of their political indoctrination. Even under the late sage, Chief Obafemi Awolowo, the Yorubas never belonged to just a single party- yet our unity was without blemish. Now, our values have gone down the drain.

Asiwaju, I believe I have said enough. The task is Herculean but I believe Providence has brought you here for such a time like this. It is time for the Yoruba nation to clean up its acts. What do we really want? How can we quickly right the wrongs? The Yoruba nation is in a state of arrested development. The Yoruba nation is gasping for breath and crying for help. Will you rise up to the occasion? I am aware you understand that all politics is local and charity begins at home. Our fathers gave us a proverb: ‘Bi o’ode o dun, bi igbe ni’gboro ri’. I know there are no quick fixes but I also know that if there is anyone who has the capacity to do something about our current situation, that person is you. This should be the legacy you should think of. Your legacy is our future.

Yours Very Sincerely,
Adebayo Adeyinka

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[Afis Deinde]

General Adebayo wrote letter to Tinubu, what's my business?

The General has the right to pen anyone.

Is he right? Of course no!

Only a dry Plank like KC Asagwara would turn that into anything worth discussing.

A village idiot, KC Asagwara, is at it again. Making a fool of yourself is not something you should be boasting about, KC.

You put together a cluster of names like Falae, and his Afenifere Afenifoshi group of old grumpy, and call them my Elders.

Did I ask you an igbo asshole to choose my Elder for me?

Yet this same fool named KC, runs out every time and tell Yoruba they are too subservient and do idobale, while this village fool would boast his Igbos have no respect to give because they are born republicans. Then the fool would quote a stupid igbo proverb "igbo claplanpapapa Eze" meaning Igbos are HEADLESS!

You cannot have it both ways, my village igbo KC Asagwara man, who passed thru Lagos and called himself Lagosian.

When Tinubu and his ACN were messing up I called him out on it, thanks for noticing.  

When he made good decisions I fought for him.

But hear this village idiot KC Asagwara, one would have thought no Yoruba leader or Elder was ever praised or given DUED respect.

Governor Amosun whom I loved, I recently put out a call on him and to him my mind. He's a honest and good leader, but I stand in solidarity with the Tai Solarin Univ lecturers who are going thru some hardship right now.

That's the way I roll.

Do you, a foolish igbo man wants me to call KC Asagwara up anytime I shout out on our Yoruba leaders? They are leaders not my Elders, unless I choose any of them to be my Elder.

They are all politicians if they can't stand the hit, please tell them to get the hell out of the kitchen.

KC the moron, Are you new to politics?

Ever heard a politician being called a crook in your villager's life before or in your little igloo in Canada no one called politicians bad names?

Who did I point to you as my Elder, you this Oloobuuku KC Asagwara?

Oloobuuku KC, did they count Elders in my agboile and one Elder was missing, and I had to borrow candle to search for replacement?

KC Asagwara, I saw the brainless argument you put forth before , I just found it foolish so I ignored it.

Like all Igbo morons you are still chewing the same no-brainer like guava.

Just slap KC and call yourself "Dumbo" for me.

Afis

“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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[Adeniran Adeboye]

Dear Brother Afis,

The General's name is Adeyinka Adebayo, not Adebayo Adeyinka. All the time I have read the general's public messages, he had signed off as "Gen.(rtd) Adeyinka Adebayo". Thus this writer is probably not the general.

Cheers,

Adeniran Adeboye

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[BUSKA]

Prof, sir, just spoken with Gen Adebayo now, said the letter never emanated from him as there's no need for such as Tinubu is just a phone call away from him anytime anyday 

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[Ayo Ojutalayo]

"Mr. Adeyinka, may I suggest that you re-write this piece and address it Mr. Buhari, for the Yoruba's faith is the same faith for the so called 36 states."

. . . Mazi Aduba

Mazi,

I agree with you except re-writing the piece on behalf of the thirty six states. It is too much dependence on Federal Government that destroyed what we used to have. Each State or a collaboration of States should bring development to the grassroot and give support/encouragement to local industries.

Ayo Ojutalayo

“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. ” . . . Martin Luther King Jr

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Subject: Re: Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

Mr. Adeyinka's open letter was addressed to Mr. Tinubu and focused on the Yoruba. I wish that what he said about the Igbo is true. But it is not so. Every thing he bemoaned about Yoruba is true of the Igbo. I am even tempted to say that it is true of all Nigeria, bar none. Our collective past is better than our present and if care is not taken of our future. Sarduana's north was better than the present north. Zik/Okpara's east was much better than the current East.The statistics on education might indicate that the east is "better" than the west. This is a mere pretense. I was a man in the 60's, 70's and 80's. There was no way to celebrate a 40% success rate in WAEC which is what SE got. If you attended DMGS or CIC during that era and your class got 80% success rate you would go and hide. Mr. Cookey and Fr. Alloy would hide their heads in shame. They would be considered failures. Ditto for some Lagos schools. Some classes did not even record a grade three student.

Mr. Adeyinka had somebody to address his memo to, Mr. Tinubu. If I composed such a letter for the attention of an Igbo leader, who should I send it to? There is no Eze-Igbo gburugburu (Asiwaju).

Mr. Adeyinka, may I suggest that you re-write this piece and address it Mr. Buhari, for the Yoruba's faith is the same faith for the so called 36 states. None is better than any other. You are sleeping close to one who has bad breath, that is why you are aware of the stench. Believe me the Yoruba can even be said to have it better. I know how you feel about men like Odutola. The Igbo had his match in Umunze, a man who made tires also. Umunze is in my neck of woods. His name was Ugo Tires. Ntukogu built buses, gwongwro's, etc., in Onitsha. And he had competition too. People merely imported the wheel base of vehicles (chases) and the body was made in Nigeria by illiterate and semi-literate body builders with mostly domestically fabricted equipment. No more.

Mr. Adeyinka you have a soul mate in me.

Aduba

[Asagwara, Ken (EAL)]

Afis Oladeinde Odidere:

 

Baba Were Dunwo; listen up.

 

The letter addressed to Bola Ahmed Tinubu, the Asiwaju of Yoruba land was not written by me. For all I know, you can go hang yourself on the tallest tree around you or go jump in the lake and end your misery.

 

Idiotic country bumpkin aka Mr. Satan, get out of my space and go get a life and stop trawling the Nigerian internet forums 24/7/365 day butting into every issue and making a nuisance of yourself stupid self.

 

Do you remember the number of times that I have told you that your life is a waste all your pretenses to the contrary not minding? I am very much aware that each time I engage you makes you feel human than the bipedal animal in human form that you are. Ok; I may have to stop engaging you. I have humoured you more than plenty enough.

 

The Camden, New Jersey clown Afis Deinde Odidere aka Baba Were Dunwo of Yoruba land, oma se ooo. Seriously, go get a life; see your photo again to see how bloated and miserable you are. Perhaps, you may realize how much of a waste you have become.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

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[afis 'Deinde]

"I am very much aware that each time I engage you makes you feel human than the bipedal animal in human form that you are. Ok; I may have to stop engaging you. I have humoured you more than plenty enough."......KC AsanWere Asagwara.

Afis comment: More than five years ago, this Oloobuuku omo ajeokuta mamumi Inyanminrin dan banza, mutumu wofi dan keremi, omo aja lasanlasan, KC AsanWere didn't you say you will stop engaging me?

KC your world no go good sef......hehe, aiye e koni da Dan iska.

If what you wrote were true, and you were disinterested in what General Adeyinka Adebayo ex-NPN closet PDP wrote to Tinubu, why did you keep bringing it to my attention for my comments?

You posted it the first time, I that you claimed needed your attention, I ignored it.

Second time, Afis who needed your attention again ignored your Tribal taunting.

Then ELEKETA in Yorubaland is known as AKONKOTAN lodifa fun Inyanminrin Asagwara ti ko mo iwon ara re, tio nlo fo ile Bees-agbon.

KC AsanWere Asagwara, DAWN Commission is part of the new arrowhead to full industrialization of Southwest.

We call it "AGBAJO OWO LAFI NSANYA".

Tell your Yoruba friend to translate you for you. 

DAWN is doing a fabulous and selfless work to enhance Yoruba resources for the GOOD of all.  I have great confidence in their leadership more than I ever had or trusted General Adeyinka Adebayo, and that's good enough for me.

Alagba Dipo Famakinwa is a trusted and tested omo-akin omo-Odua. 

DAWN IS IN GOOD HANDS. Shikena.

KC, Can you tell us what kind of collective effort you Igbos have to rival Odua Industries?

You keep lying to yourself you are not interested in Yoruba affairs but you run out every time with what you think is bad news for Yoruba or a scintilla of good news for Inyanminrins.

Is it because the army General said Igboland is manufacturing more than Yorubaland that made you giddy up to run out from your Igloo to show Afis?

Are you that childish, KC AsanWere Asagwara?

If you believed General Adeyinka, hey knock yourself out.

He's a closet PDP man, an ex-NPN man.

Those I know I don't change my first opinion on them, leopard never changes its spots.

He was not a friend of Chief Awolowo during Awo's lifetime, his words on Awo are like having OBJ praising Awo.

Wise people know he's up to no good.

For all I care, Asagwara Oloshi man, go stick the general's letter up your  ass!

Shikena 

Afis

“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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[KolaThomas]

Dear Prof and Gentle people: It has been confirmed that the "writer" is someone other than the Gen (Rtd.) Adeyinka Adebayo, unless folks just want to be mischievous, or engage in general "yabbies" without any meaningful thing to add to the discussion.  Thank you.

-Kola Thomas

San Francisco, CA

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Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

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[Mobolaji Aluko]

Dokita:

As confirmed by Buska himself in a quick call to the General himself - for which we should all express gratitude - this open letter could simply NOT simply have been written by

the "General Adeyinka Adebayo", but one "Adebayo Adeyinka", who "so Yoruba ni gbere ipako" (calling the Yoruba to its senses) more that the protagonist Tinubu.   It would just have been simply aculturally inappropriate  otherwise.

I would have been surprised if "Asagwara Kenneth" wrote it with a pen name  - or knows who wrote it - but I am not surprised that Ken Asagwara commented as if the General did, jumping up and down as he did.

And there you have it.  Another mystery author solved.

Bolaji Aluko

Having a belly laugh

  

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 5:08 AM, Adeniran Adeboye <aade...@icloud.com> wrote:

Dear Brother Afis,

The General's name is Adeyinka Adebayo, not Adebayo Adeyinka. All the time I have read the general's public messages, he had signed off as "Gen.(rtd) Adeyinka Adebayo". Thus this writer is probably not the general.

Cheers,

Adeniran Adeboye

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 20, 2016, at 8:11 PM, 'Afis Deinde' via AfricanWorldForum <africanw...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

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[Dododawa]

I like the message so much, I posted it on the Egbe Omo Yoruba DFW website --- it speaks so much to our complacency. 

http://www.omoyorubadfw.org/letter-to-Yoruba.html

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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

Posted on June 18, 2016 by Bode Dolu

I am compelled to write this open letter to you because of the state of affairs of the Yoruba nation. Firstly, I wish to acknowledge that fate has put you in a prime position to determine to a large extent the direction that the Yoruba people will go. The indisputable truth is that one may quarrel with your politics but your sagacity is never in doubt. Even those who don’t see eye to eye with you agree that you are imbued with unusual native intelligence, uncommon people skills and unrivaled foresight. You, more than any other person, has been the game changer since the advent of democracy in 1999. It is for these reasons that I have chosen to direct this letter to you.
My singular purpose is to tug at the strings of your heart. I am not writing to appeal to partisan considerations but to see, if per chance, I can pour out my heart to you in a manner of speaking. God has blessed you even beyond your wildest imagination. You have installed Senators and Governors. You have removed Governors and even a President. You have also installed a President. There is nothing you have wished for or desired that you didn’t get. Fortune has smiled on you. Goodwill follows you everywhere you go. You have done very well- more than most men ever will. However, there is one area that is begging for your urgent attention. This area may well define you and all you have ever achieved.

This matter, in my opinion, is the only difference between you and the late sage, Chief Obafemi Awolowo. Let me restate for the purpose of emphasis that this is the area in which the late sage and Leader of the Yorubas stand head and shoulders above you. It is the reason his name has been a constant denominator in our regional and national politics. It is the reason politicians, friends and foes invoke his name for political advantage and personal glory. It is also the reason why we can’t stop talking about him almost thirty years after his death. What will anyone say about you thirty years after you have transited?

Asiwaju Sir, you may be wondering what I’m talking about? It is the issue of legacy. According to Peter Strople, ‘Legacy is not leaving something for people, it is leaving something in people’. Legacy is building something that outlives you. Legacy is greater than currency. In the words of Leonard Sweet, ‘ What you do is your history. What you set in motion is your legacy’. You can’t live forever, Sir. No one can. But you can create something that will. Enough of speaking in parables- I shall now speak plainly.
When destiny brought you on the scene, we were enamoured because you championed the case for true federalism. It was your belief then that the Yoruba nation will fare better under a restructured arrangement than under the type of unitary government we run while pretending by calling it a federal government. Everyone knows that there is nothing federal about our government at all. If truth must be told, the Yoruba nation has fared very badly since the advent of our new democracy. And this is not about holding power at the centre.

Let me bring this home: someone passed a comment recently that he would want Biafra to become a reality because he knows the Igbo nation will survive. That comment led me to deeper introspection as I wondered if the Yorubas can truly survive. Let me cite my first example. From Oyo to Osun, Ogun to Ondo, Ekiti to Kwara and Lagos, hardly will one see any serious industry or manufacturing concern owned by a Yoruba person. I am not talking about portfolio businesses or one-man business concerns. Most industries in Oyo State are owned by the Lebanese. The native business and industry gurus who dominated the landscape- Nathaniel Idowu, Amos Adegoke, Lekan Salami, Alao Arisekola, Adeola Odutola, Jimoh Odutola, Chief Theophilus Adediran Oni and others- are all gone with no credible replacements. I’m sure you remember the tyre factory of the Odutolas and how Jimoh Odutola was even asked by the Governments of Kenya and Ghana to set up a similar factory in their countries.

Chief Theophilus Adediran Oni, popularly called T.A Oni & Sons started the first indigenous construction company in Nigeria. He willed his residence- Goodwill House, to the Oyo/Western state government, to be used as a paediatrics Hospital, which is now known as T.A Oni Memorial Children Hospital at Ring Road in Ibadan. This sprawling family Estate and residence was cited on a 15acre piece of land, 65 rooms, with modern conveniences, Olympic Swimming Pool and stable for Horses, etc.
People like Chief Bode Akindele started companies like Standard Breweries and Dr Pepper Soft drink factory at Alomaja in Ibadan. Broking House built by the late Femi Johnson, an insurance magnate, still stands glittering in the mid-day sun as an epitome to a rich history that Ibadan has. The most serious and only notable Yoruba entrepreneur we have now is Michael Adenuga. I say this quite consciously because most of the other names are oil and gas barons. Most of what stood as testaments of industry in Oyo State are gone— Exide Batteries, Leyland Autos and many others. In its place are shopping malls and road side markets but no nation develops through buying and selling alone- especially when you’re not actually producing what you’re selling.
Hypermarkets and supermarkets have taken over because of the need to feed our insatiable consumer-appetite and foreign tastes. In one instance, an ancient landmark in the form of a hotel was demolished to pave way for a mall. That is how low we have sunk. If our past is better than our present- if we always look back with nostalgia frequently, then there is a problem.

The case of other states is not different. Osun’s case is pathetic. Ditto for Ondo and Ekiti. Ogun State can boast of some factories at Sango-Otta and Agbara axis but most of them are not owned by the Yorubas. There is no significant pharmaceutical company owned by any Yoruba except for Bond Chemicals in Awe, Oyo State- and its wallet share is very insignificant. For Lagos State, more than 70% of the manufacturing concerns and major industries in the State are owned by the Igbos. If the Igbos were to stop paying tax in Lagos State, the IGR of Lagos State will reduce by over 60%.
In contrast, Sir, go to the South East and look at the manufacturing concerns in Onitsha, Aba and Nnewi. Please don’t forget those were areas ravaged by civil war a mere forty something years ago. The Igbos have certainly made tremendous progress but the Yoruba nation has regressed. I wish to state that this letter is not meant to whip up primordial considerations or ethnic sentiments but just to put things in proper perspective.
Asiwaju, I will like to also talk about the state of education in the Yoruba nation. Our education has gone to the dogs. We have a bunch of mis-educated and ill-educated young men and women roaming the streets. Ibadan, for instance, had the first University in Nigeria and the first set of research centres in Nigeria ( The Forestry Research Institute, the Cocoa Research Institute (CRIN), The Nigerian Cereal Research Institute Moor Plantation (NCRI), the NIHORT (Nigerian Institute of Horticultural Research), the NISER (Nigerian Institute of Social and Economic Research), IAR&T (Institute of Agriculture, Research and Training), amongst several others). Ibadan was the bastion of scholarship with people like Wole Soyinka, JP Clark, D.O Fagunwa and Amos Tutuola as residents. In the May/June 2015 West African Senior Secondary Certificate Examination, Abia came tops. Anambra came 2nd while Edo was 3rd. Lagos placed 6th while Osun and Oyo was 29th and 26th. Ekiti was 11th, Ondo State was 13th and Ogun State was 19th. In 2013 WASSCE, only Lagos and Ogun States were the Yoruba States above the national average. If we do an analysis of how Lagos placed 6th in 2015, you will discover that it was substantially because of other nationalities resident in Lagos.

For proof, please look no further than the winners of the Spelling Bee competition which has produced One-Day Governors in Lagos State. Since inception in 2001, other nationalities have won the competition six times (Ebuka Anisiobi in 2001, Ovuwhore Etiti in 2002, Abundance Ikechukwu in 2006, Daniel Osunbor in 2008, Akpakpan Iniodu Jones in 2011 and Lilian Ogbuefi in 2012). Sir, there is something seriously wrong about our state of education. From the vintage times of Obafemi Awolowo who initiated ‘free education’, we have regressed into a most parlous state.

Let me talk about roads, housing and infrastructure . The first dualized road in Nigeria, the Queen Elizabeth road from Mokola to Agodi in Ibadan was formally commissioned by Queen Elizabeth in 1956. The first Housing Estate in Nigeria is Bodija Housing Estate (also in Ibadan) which was built in 1958. The state of roads in the Yoruba nation has become pathetic. Our hinterland are still largely rural. Even some state capitals like Osogbo and Ado-Ekiti are big villages when you compare them to towns in the South East. How many new estates have been built over the last decade? Even Ajoda New Town lies in ruins.

We have abandoned the farm settlement strategy of the Western Region and only pay lip service to agriculture. Instead of feeding others like we once did, others now feed us. We plant no tomatoes, no pepper and the basic food that we require. The Indians have bought the large expanse of water body that we have in Onigambari village. The water body in Oke Ogun of Oyo State can provide enough fish to feed the whole of the South West. From being a major cocoa exporter many years ago, one can point to just a few vestiges of factories that still deal with Cocoa in the Yoruba nation. 80% of Cocoa processing industries in the South West have been shut down. The Chinese have taken over the cashew belt at Ogbomoso in Oyo State. They have even edged out the indigenes as brokers.

They now come to the cashew belt to buy from the local farmers, sell on the spot to other Chinese exporters who now process the cashew nuts and import them back into Nigeria at a premium. Sir, there are only 7 major cashew processing plants in Nigeria and you can check out the ownership. The glory has departed from the Yoruba nation.
Apart from Asejire, Ede, Ikere Gorge and Oyan dams built ages ago, where are the new dams to cater for increased population and water capacity for the Yoruba nation? How have we improved on what our heroes past left us? Maybe apart from certain areas in Lagos State, others can’t even supply their citizens with pipe-borne water.
Our youth which we used to take pride in are largely a mass of unemployed and unemployable people. Have you noticed the abundance of street urchins, area boys, touts and ‘agberos’ that we now have all across the Yoruba nation? Have you noticed the swell in the ranks of NURTW (I mean no disrespect to an otherwise noble union)? Have you noticed the increase in the number of Yoruba beggars? There was a time that it was taboo for a Yoruba man to beg- but no more. The spirit of apprenticeship is dead. There was a time that people who learn vocational skills celebrate what we referred to as ‘freedom’. While that is largely moribund now in the Yoruba nation, the Igbos still practice it with great success.

The only thing we can boldly say the Yoruba nation controls is the information machinery- the press. We own largely the newspapers- the Nation, Punch, Nigerian Tribune, TV Continental and a few others. It is because of our control of this information machinery that we have rewritten the narrative in the country with the misguided self-belief that things are normal and we are making progress. A look beyond the surface will prove that this is so untrue. We are largely divided. For the first time in the history of the Yoruba nation, religion is about to divide us further- and it is starting from Osun State. You are married to a Christian. My own father-in-law is an Alhaji. That is how we have peacefully co-existed but the fabrics are about to be torn to shreds because of poor management of issues. Afenifere has been reduced to a shadow of itself.
OPC that once defended Yoruba interests has gone into oblivion. Yoruba elders have been vilified in the name of politics and partisanship. It is no longer news to see teenagers throwing stones at their elders because of their political indoctrination. Even under the late sage, Chief Obafemi Awolowo, the Yorubas never belonged to just a single party- yet our unity was without blemish. Now, our values have gone down the drain.

Asiwaju, I believe I have said enough. The task is Herculean but I believe Providence has brought you here for such a time like this. It is time for the Yoruba nation to clean up its acts. What do we really want? How can we quickly right the wrongs? The Yoruba nation is in a state of arrested development. The Yoruba nation is gasping for breath and crying for help. Will you rise up to the occasion? I am aware you understand that all politics is local and charity begins at home. Our fathers gave us a proverb: ‘Bi o’ode o dun, bi igbe ni’gboro ri’. I know there are no quick fixes but I also know that if there is anyone who has the capacity to do something about our current situation, that person is you. This should be the legacy you should think of. Your legacy is our future.

Yours Very Sincerely,
Adebayo Adeyinka

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[Asagwara, Ken (EAL)]

Bolaji Aluko:

 

For the first time since encountering you in the Nigerian internet forums, I now call you a foolish person. Reason being that I did not anywhere mention the name of retired General Robert Adeyinka Adebayo as the author of the letter to Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu. The name of the author is clearly stated by himself as Adebayo Adeyinka.

 

From time immemorial, I have known that the onetime military governor of the old western region is Robert Adeyinka Adebayo and not Adebayo Adeyinka. Bolaji Aluko, can you see the difference? And why are you guys twisting yourselves into pretzels and dried crayfish looking for someone to find fault with in what the man, fellow Yoruba wrote? I know most of you Yoruba Nigerians do not enjoy reading anything negative about your ethnic nation. I can understand because I too, do not enjoy reading anything negative written or posted about my Igbo ethnic nation by fellow Igbo. And when such happens, I do not go about looking for outsiders to blame for what I read. I take on the Igbo author directly, if the need be. And in doing so, I will present a redirect to him/her where things stated are not really correct. That is what you and any other having hiccups over Adebayo Adeyinka’s public letter to Bola Ahmed Tinubu should do. That much I expected from an educated man like you instead of trying to blame me for what you read concerning the Yoruba that apparently displeased you. What you and that Yoruba master idiot and clown Baba Were Dunwo Afis Odidere are trying to do is akin to the chicken cooking in the pot bending its neck for the pot instead of the knife that sliced its throat. Please carry go.

 

As you are wont to say, there you have it.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

[Ayo Ojutalayo]

"Well, read the piece below by Adebayo Adeyinka and see that you were wrong on both. A Yoruba leader who knows and understands it better than you is calling Bola Ahmed Tinubu, the Asiwaju of Yoruba land to come to the rescue." . . . . Ken Asagwara

Okey Ken, who were you referring to as "Yoruba leader who knows and understands it better than [Michael Idowu] calling Bola Ahmed Tinubu, the Asiwaju of Yoruba land to come to the rescue"? I ask because no "Yoruba leader" bears the name Adebayo Adeyinka whereas Adeyinka Adebayo (Rtd General) is a "Yoruba leader".

 

Ayo Ojutalayo

“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. ” . . . Martin Luther King Jr

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Subject: RE: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

[afis 'Deinde]

KC AsanWere Asagwara you are a certified mad man!

You think you are slick?

How come you called the writer "Yoruba Leader", and used the letter to chastise one "Michael Idowu" for not calling Tinubu his Asiwaju Yoruba?

Don't lie now, Oloobuuku AsanWere Dan banza.

Shikena 

Afis

“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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[Mobolaji Aluko]

Ken Asagwara:

Call me "foolish" all you want, and I pray that you become as foolish as I am when you grow up, with your full bia-bia........

Moving on.....

I thought for once that you would honest.  So when you wrote:

QUOTE

A Yoruba leader who knows and understands it better than you is calling Bola Ahmed Tinubu, the Asiwaju of Yoruba land to come to the rescue.

UNQUOTE

"Yoruba leader?"  So anybody who writes an "open letter" to BAT is a "Yoruba leader" in your bearded vocabulary?

Do you know this "Adebayo Adeyinka" as different from the "Yoruba Leader" General Adeyinka Adebayo that everybody knows?  Even your own intervention is what slightly confused Afis, why he appended General, and exchanged the first and second names.

On a matter of simple honesty, you fail.  Imagine bigger issues?

Res Ipas Loquitur...

Bolaji Aluko

Having a belly laugh

PS:  You did not even understand my translation of "So Yoruba ni gbere ipako."  Read it more carefully to understand that I was not criticizing the piece.

[afis 'Deinde]

I have known KC AsanWere Asagwara since NaijaPolitics as an Oloobuuku number one of all Inyanminrins!

He lies like all Igbo sociopaths.

He's now naked because no Igbo is available that he can use his head to break coconuts.

ChukwuWereDunWo Agwunobi was the perfect oblong Head this Oloobuuku was using to break Tribal coconuts. 

But Chukwuma is now Sanyeri Head Dodger, since he branched out to open his own Madman's 99c Store at Aro psych Hosp.
Hehehehehehehe!

Shikena 

Afis

“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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[Ayo Ojutalayo]

"I like the message so much, I posted it on the Egbe Omo Yoruba DFW website --- it speaks so much to our complacency." . . . Dododawa 

http://www.omoyorubadfw.org/letter-to-Yoruba.html

 

Ken Asagwara,

To the best of my knowledge, Dododawa's above represents the reaction of different Yorubas to the letter. You are wrong to say or imply that Yorubas see the letter as "negative to Yoruba"

Ayo Ojutalayo

“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. ” . . . Martin Luther King Jr

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[Mobolaji Aluko]

Ayo Ojutalayo:

Aye e a dara o ....in fact, aye e ti dara already....

I just asked the same questions from the bia-bia Prince man Ken Asagwara....simple honesty, you cannot get from him.

Bolaji Aluko

Shaking his head

 

[Asagwara, Ken (EAL)]

Bolaji Aluko:

 

Like I already stated, you know and I know why you and your gang are having hiccups on account of Adebayo Adeyinka’s public letter to Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu. You read what displeased you and seem to hurt your ethnic pride. That can be understood. Go take issues with him, if you and your cohorts disagree with his reasoned call on a Yoruba leader he believed can rise to the occasion and perhaps, make a difference.

 

Go re-read the origin of, “A Yoruba leader who knows and understands it better than you is calling Bola Ahmed Tinubu, the Asiwaju of Yoruba land to come to the rescue” which you excerpted. If you do so with an open mind instead of warped mind, you will see that it was addressed to Michael Idowu who earlier took me to task for saying that Bolaji Ahmed Tinubu is a Yoruba leader.

 

In my book, Adebayo Adeyinka stands as a leader over and above Michael Idowu. And if without unnecessary subjectivity and dispassionate emotions you analyze Adebayo Adeyinka’s letter addressed to Tinubu, he wrote the way and manner a leader and perhaps also, an elder, would.  He did not claim to be retired General Robert Adeyinka Adebayo. There is nowhere I or any one that read him would mistake him for the retired General. Your apparent angst is that in the context and contents of his letter that I called him Yoruba leader. Well; Bolaji Aluko and gang, please deal with the man’s message that apparently ruffled your ego and ignore whether he is your leader or not. It’s so amazing what narcissism and ego can do to some folks.

[Chukwuma S. Agwunobi]

Dear Brother Afis, The General's name is Adeyinka Adebayo, not Adebayo Adeyinka. All the time I have read the general's public messages, he had signed off as "Gen.(rtd) Adeyinka Adebayo". Thus this writer is probably not the general. By Oga Adeniran Adeboye

 

Oga Adeboye:

 

Ba Woni? How bodi? Chukwuma, Omo Akure oti de ooooo!

 

Lookia Oga Adeboye, there is confusion going on here in Seattle about a Yoruba Mathematics Professor in Washington DC who came to Seattle while I was in Nigeria.

 

I asked what is the man’s name. The Ngbati guys keep guessing here and there about his name.

 

Some say his name is Professor Adeniran Ogunsanya, some say is Adeboye Ogunsawo, some say Adeniran Ogundiran and others say Professor Adeboye Ademola and Adeniran Adeboye.

 

I asked what was he doing in my neck of wood and how long did he stay in Seattle?

They told me he was here for three weeks to celebrate Birth Day parties for his friend’s sons. A Professor left Washington DC to come to Seattle to spend 3 weeks just for yeye party.

 

My Ngbati friend snapped back and say Mr. Chuks why are you Igbo’s so flabbergasted when Ngbati people enjoy themselves? He went on to insult me that this why we Okoro people dey die for Heart Attack. To him, Ngbati people are born to enjoy whether in time of sorrows, tears and bloods. NGBATI PEOPLE MUST ENJOY. They use Owambe as a Curse on them.

 

He told me that many Ngbati people came from Europe, Russia, Australia, Canada and Middle East just for the Owambe. I wanted to slap this Ngbati baggar but my Ngbati girl friend restrained me.

 

I demanded for the VIDEO and I was astonished to see Oga Adeboye dancing and jumping up and down with a bottle of wine in his hand. You can hear Oga Adeboye shouting in Yoruba saying

 

Ile Oyibo o da goni. Ile Oyibo oda ju [Oyibo land good no be small o!. Oyibo land dey very, very good] while sipping from the bottle. People were spraying Oga Adeboye with $100 Dollar bills and from my counting; it will be approximately $6,000.

 

Oh how I wish Dr. Ishola Oyenusi and Lawrence Aninih is around to send one of his boys there and let me duck and get some.

 

What surprises me in the Video was Oga Adeboye answering any name they called him.

 

Oga Adeboye was called Professor Adeniran Ogunsanya, Engineer Adeboye Ogunsawo, Dr. Adeniran Ogundiran and Otunba Adeboye Ademola and Oga Adeboye will answer any one they called him.

 

So my question to Oga Adeboye, what different does it make if ROBERT ADEYINKA ADEBAYO name was switched 360 degrees?

 

Ngbati people are known for switching names around when they want to do 419 and thief.

One person has more than 5-7 names.

 

AFIS name is AFIS IDERA OLEBURUKU OLADEINDE OMOTUNWASHE, so anybody can pick and choose which ones is convenient for him/her to use.

 

Briefly of General RAA.

 

General ROBERT ADEYINKA ADEBAYO was the coward who Ojukwu phoned during the dark days in 1966 to checkmate Northerners using Western Region as springboard to kill Igbo’s. He told Ojukwu to call his correct name as Colonel ROBERT ADEYINKA ADEBAYO.

Oya abeg change to his original name of ROBERT ADEYINKA ADEBAYO he wants Ojukwu to call him in July/August 1966.

 

Oga Adeboye you are not correct either. Na where you get Adebayo Adeyinka?

 

Robert Adeyinka Adebayo is from Ado-Ekiti the home of late Colonel Adekunle Fajuyi, late Professor Thomas Adeajayi, late General James J. Oluleye and young Professor Suyi Adeajayi. My eldest sister was born there in 1946.

 

He was Nigerian Military Attachee in London during Ironsi. Robert Adeyinka Adebayo was appointed by Gowon to replace the murdered Colonel Adekunle Fajuyi during Northern Counter-Coup of July 28/29, 1966. He later became member of GOWON Supreme Military Council and was appointed as the Chairman of the Panel that investigated Ex-Nigeria-Biafran Soldiers role in the coup of January 1966 and the war. No Igbo person was a member of the panel.

 

He and the Ngbati members of the panel recommended execution for all the Igbo senior Officers of Nigeria Army and dismissal for the junior ones. Northerners among the panel rejected it and GOWON commuted their sentences to Jail terms. They were all released in 1974.

 

Colonel Chris Ugokwe fought the Biafra war in Biafra and was absorbed back into the Nigeria Army because of Hassan Katsina and he was the one who quashed the Dimka Coup of February 13, 1976 at NBC.

 

Ngbati people will never take responsibility for what they did. It is always someone or some peoples fault. Just take a look at the roll calls for these cowards Oduduwayo brought to Nigeria from Saudi Arabia to suffocate the hard working Igbo’s.

 

Na Zik and Balewa framed Awo for Treasonable felony.

 

Na Zik and Balewa confused Akintola to betray Awo.

 

Na Zik and Balewa incited WETTIE which Oga Adeboye took part in 1965 as young UI student.

 

Ngbati people killed Igbo’s because they invaded Oduduwayo land.

 

Na Zik and Hausa/Fulani Oligarchy didn’t want Awo to be president in second Republic

 

OBJ didn’t want Awo to be President because his people the Egbas hate the Ijebu people.

 

Igbo’s, the Christians truncated Abiola, the Moslem mandate while he was kissing the asses of Hausa/Fulani Oligarchy.

 

OBJ was framed for Coup by Abacha and Hausa/Fulani Oligarchy.

 

Diya Coup was a trumped charge by Abacha and Hausa/Fulani Oligarchy

 

Igbo’s made Shofolahan to tell Abacha killers where Abiola wife is.

 

Na Igbo’s made Murtala and Hausa/Fulani Oligarchy to move Lagos as capital to Abuja.

 

Na because of Igbo’s make Boyoyo Aluko to steal Nigeria money.

 

Na Igbo’s made Ngbati people to be extravagant spenders and depends on Mama and Papa long legs.

 

Na Chukwuma and Igbo people bad mouth make Ngbati people to hate Igbo’s.

 

Na Igbo’s make AFIS, the Debtor to live off on Credit card and Food stamps.

 

Na because of Igbo’s made Aluko to give everybody in his the grades of “A” Grades and Internet trouble maker.

 

Na because of Igbo’s made Oga Ola, a trained Medical Doctor to become a Real Estate Agent, selling Houses and Lands all over Nigeria from Canada.

 

And today, na Igbo’s framed and forged the article written by Colonel ROBERT ADEYINKA ADEBAYO.

 

I say what a confused and educated tribe.

 

Oga Adeboye, na when your people go stop these chicaneries, hypocrisies, blame games and take responsibilities for your actions?

 

And with this, I rest my case.

 

Chukwuma "Vicious Animal" Agwunobi

Seattle, Washington U. S. A

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[Asagwara, Ken (EAL)]

Ayo Ojutalayo:

 

I know you are reading and comprehension challenged. I said that there are those of you that will see the letter as being negative to your Yoruba image. It means not that all Yorubas would.

 

And Dodowa’s action, "I like the message so much, I posted it on the Egbe Omo Yoruba DFW website --- it speaks so much to our complacency." . . .

shows he understood the trajectory of Adebayo Adeyinka letter; unlike some of you that contouring yourselves into an undulating landscape map duo to hurt ego.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara 

 

 

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Subject: Ken Asagwara: Re: Yorubas and the letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

 

"I like the message so much, I posted it on the Egbe Omo Yoruba DFW website --- it speaks so much to our complacency." . . . Dododawa 

 

http://www.omoyorubadfw.org/letter-to-Yoruba.html

 

 

Ken Asagwara,

 

To the best of my knowledge, Dododawa's above represents the reaction of different Yorubas to the letter. You are wrong to say or imply that Yorubas see the letter as "negative to Yoruba"

 

Ayo Ojutalayo

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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

I like the message so much, I posted it on the Egbe Omo Yoruba DFW website --- it speaks so much to our complacency. 

 

http://www.omoyorubadfw.org/letter-to-Yoruba.html

 

Posted on June 18, 2016 by Bode Dolu

I am compelled to write this open letter to you because of the state of affairs of the Yoruba nation. Firstly, I wish to acknowledge that fate has put you in a prime position to determine to a large extent the direction that the Yoruba people will go. The indisputable truth is that one may quarrel with your politics but your sagacity is never in doubt. Even those who don’t see eye to eye with you agree that you are imbued with unusual native intelligence, uncommon people skills and unrivaled foresight. You, more than any other person, has been the game changer since the advent of democracy in 1999. It is for these reasons that I have chosen to direct this letter to you.
My singular purpose is to tug at the strings of your heart. I am not writing to appeal to partisan considerations but to see, if per chance, I can pour out my heart to you in a manner of speaking. God has blessed you even beyond your wildest imagination. You have installed Senators and Governors. You have removed Governors and even a President. You have also installed a President. There is nothing you have wished for or desired that you didn’t get. Fortune has smiled on you. Goodwill follows you everywhere you go. You have done very well- more than most men ever will. However, there is one area that is begging for your urgent attention. This area may well define you and all you have ever achieved.

This matter, in my opinion, is the only difference between you and the late sage, Chief Obafemi Awolowo. Let me restate for the purpose of emphasis that this is the area in which the late sage and Leader of the Yorubas stand head and shoulders above you. It is the reason his name has been a constant denominator in our regional and national politics. It is the reason politicians, friends and foes invoke his name for political advantage and personal glory. It is also the reason why we can’t stop talking about him almost thirty years after his death. What will anyone say about you thirty years after you have transited?

Asiwaju Sir, you may be wondering what I’m talking about? It is the issue of legacy. According to Peter Strople, ‘Legacy is not leaving something for people, it is leaving something in people’. Legacy is building something that outlives you. Legacy is greater than currency. In the words of Leonard Sweet, ‘ What you do is your history. What you set in motion is your legacy’. You can’t live forever, Sir. No one can. But you can create something that will. Enough of speaking in parables- I shall now speak plainly.
When destiny brought you on the scene, we were enamoured because you championed the case for true federalism. It was your belief then that the Yoruba nation will fare better under a restructured arrangement than under the type of unitary government we run while pretending by calling it a federal government. Everyone knows that there is nothing federal about our government at all. If truth must be told, the Yoruba nation has fared very badly since the advent of our new democracy. And this is not about holding power at the centre.

Let me bring this home: someone passed a comment recently that he would want Biafra to become a reality because he knows the Igbo nation will survive. That comment led me to deeper introspection as I wondered if the Yorubas can truly survive. Let me cite my first example. From Oyo to Osun, Ogun to Ondo, Ekiti to Kwara and Lagos, hardly will one see any serious industry or manufacturing concern owned by a Yoruba person. I am not talking about portfolio businesses or one-man business concerns. Most industries in Oyo State are owned by the Lebanese. The native business and industry gurus who dominated the landscape- Nathaniel Idowu, Amos Adegoke, Lekan Salami, Alao Arisekola, Adeola Odutola, Jimoh Odutola, Chief Theophilus Adediran Oni and others- are all gone with no credible replacements. I’m sure you remember the tyre factory of the Odutolas and how Jimoh Odutola was even asked by the Governments of Kenya and Ghana to set up a similar factory in their countries.

Chief Theophilus Adediran Oni, popularly called T.A Oni & Sons started the first indigenous construction company in Nigeria. He willed his residence- Goodwill House, to the Oyo/Western state government, to be used as a paediatrics Hospital, which is now known as T.A Oni Memorial Children Hospital at Ring Road in Ibadan. This sprawling family Estate and residence was cited on a 15acre piece of land, 65 rooms, with modern conveniences, Olympic Swimming Pool and stable for Horses, etc.
People like Chief Bode Akindele started companies like Standard Breweries and Dr Pepper Soft drink factory at Alomaja in Ibadan. Broking House built by the late Femi Johnson, an insurance magnate, still stands glittering in the mid-day sun as an epitome to a rich history that Ibadan has. The most serious and only notable Yoruba entrepreneur we have now is Michael Adenuga. I say this quite consciously because most of the other names are oil and gas barons. Most of what stood as testaments of industry in Oyo State are gone— Exide Batteries, Leyland Autos and many others. In its place are shopping malls and road side markets but no nation develops through buying and selling alone- especially when you’re not actually producing what you’re selling.
Hypermarkets and supermarkets have taken over because of the need to feed our insatiable consumer-appetite and foreign tastes. In one instance, an ancient landmark in the form of a hotel was demolished to pave way for a mall. That is how low we have sunk. If our past is better than our present- if we always look back with nostalgia frequently, then there is a problem.

The case of other states is not different. Osun’s case is pathetic. Ditto for Ondo and Ekiti. Ogun State can boast of some factories at Sango-Otta and Agbara axis but most of them are not owned by the Yorubas. There is no significant pharmaceutical company owned by any Yoruba except for Bond Chemicals in Awe, Oyo State- and its wallet share is very insignificant. For Lagos State, more than 70% of the manufacturing concerns and major industries in the State are owned by the Igbos. If the Igbos were to stop paying tax in Lagos State, the IGR of Lagos State will reduce by over 60%.
In contrast, Sir, go to the South East and look at the manufacturing concerns in Onitsha, Aba and Nnewi. Please don’t forget those were areas ravaged by civil war a mere forty something years ago. The Igbos have certainly made tremendous progress but the Yoruba nation has regressed. I wish to state that this letter is not meant to whip up primordial considerations or ethnic sentiments but just to put things in proper perspective.
Asiwaju, I will like to also talk about the state of education in the Yoruba nation. Our education has gone to the dogs. We have a bunch of mis-educated and ill-educated young men and women roaming the streets. Ibadan, for instance, had the first University in Nigeria and the first set of research centres in Nigeria ( The Forestry Research Institute, the Cocoa Research Institute (CRIN), The Nigerian Cereal Research Institute Moor Plantation (NCRI), the NIHORT (Nigerian Institute of Horticultural Research), the NISER (Nigerian Institute of Social and Economic Research), IAR&T (Institute of Agriculture, Research and Training), amongst several others). Ibadan was the bastion of scholarship with people like Wole Soyinka, JP Clark, D.O Fagunwa and Amos Tutuola as residents. In the May/June 2015 West African Senior Secondary Certificate Examination, Abia came tops. Anambra came 2nd while Edo was 3rd. Lagos placed 6th while Osun and Oyo was 29th and 26th. Ekiti was 11th, Ondo State was 13th and Ogun State was 19th. In 2013 WASSCE, only Lagos and Ogun States were the Yoruba States above the national average. If we do an analysis of how Lagos placed 6th in 2015, you will discover that it was substantially because of other nationalities resident in Lagos.

For proof, please look no further than the winners of the Spelling Bee competition which has produced One-Day Governors in Lagos State. Since inception in 2001, other nationalities have won the competition six times (Ebuka Anisiobi in 2001, Ovuwhore Etiti in 2002, Abundance Ikechukwu in 2006, Daniel Osunbor in 2008, Akpakpan Iniodu Jones in 2011 and Lilian Ogbuefi in 2012). Sir, there is something seriously wrong about our state of education. From the vintage times of Obafemi Awolowo who initiated ‘free education’, we have regressed into a most parlous state.

Let me talk about roads, housing and infrastructure . The first dualized road in Nigeria, the Queen Elizabeth road from Mokola to Agodi in Ibadan was formally commissioned by Queen Elizabeth in 1956. The first Housing Estate in Nigeria is Bodija Housing Estate (also in Ibadan) which was built in 1958. The state of roads in the Yoruba nation has become pathetic. Our hinterland are still largely rural. Even some state capitals like Osogbo and Ado-Ekiti are big villages when you compare them to towns in the South East. How many new estates have been built over the last decade? Even Ajoda New Town lies in ruins.

We have abandoned the farm settlement strategy of the Western Region and only pay lip service to agriculture. Instead of feeding others like we once did, others now feed us. We plant no tomatoes, no pepper and the basic food that we require. The Indians have bought the large expanse of water body that we have in Onigambari village. The water body in Oke Ogun of Oyo State can provide enough fish to feed the whole of the South West. From being a major cocoa exporter many years ago, one can point to just a few vestiges of factories that still deal with Cocoa in the Yoruba nation. 80% of Cocoa processing industries in the South West have been shut down. The Chinese have taken over the cashew belt at Ogbomoso in Oyo State. They have even edged out the indigenes as brokers.

They now come to the cashew belt to buy from the local farmers, sell on the spot to other Chinese exporters who now process the cashew nuts and import them back into Nigeria at a premium. Sir, there are only 7 major cashew processing plants in Nigeria and you can check out the ownership. The glory has departed from the Yoruba nation.
Apart from Asejire, Ede, Ikere Gorge and Oyan dams built ages ago, where are the new dams to cater for increased population and water capacity for the Yoruba nation? How have we improved on what our heroes past left us? Maybe apart from certain areas in Lagos State, others can’t even supply their citizens with pipe-borne water.
Our youth which we used to take pride in are largely a mass of unemployed and unemployable people. Have you noticed the abundance of street urchins, area boys, touts and ‘agberos’ that we now have all across the Yoruba nation? Have you noticed the swell in the ranks of NURTW (I mean no disrespect to an otherwise noble union)? Have you noticed the increase in the number of Yoruba beggars? There was a time that it was taboo for a Yoruba man to beg- but no more. The spirit of apprenticeship is dead. There was a time that people who learn vocational skills celebrate what we referred to as ‘freedom’. While that is largely moribund now in the Yoruba nation, the Igbos still practice it with great success.

The only thing we can boldly say the Yoruba nation controls is the information machinery- the press. We own largely the newspapers- the Nation, Punch, Nigerian Tribune, TV Continental and a few others. It is because of our control of this information machinery that we have rewritten the narrative in the country with the misguided self-belief that things are normal and we are making progress. A look beyond the surface will prove that this is so untrue. We are largely divided. For the first time in the history of the Yoruba nation, religion is about to divide us further- and it is starting from Osun State. You are married to a Christian. My own father-in-law is an Alhaji. That is how we have peacefully co-existed but the fabrics are about to be torn to shreds because of poor management of issues. Afenifere has been reduced to a shadow of itself.
OPC that once defended Yoruba interests has gone into oblivion. Yoruba elders have been vilified in the name of politics and partisanship. It is no longer news to see teenagers throwing stones at their elders because of their political indoctrination. Even under the late sage, Chief Obafemi Awolowo, the Yorubas never belonged to just a single party- yet our unity was without blemish. Now, our values have gone down the drain.

Asiwaju, I believe I have said enough. The task is Herculean but I believe Providence has brought you here for such a time like this. It is time for the Yoruba nation to clean up its acts. What do we really want? How can we quickly right the wrongs? The Yoruba nation is in a state of arrested development. The Yoruba nation is gasping for breath and crying for help. Will you rise up to the occasion? I am aware you understand that all politics is local and charity begins at home. Our fathers gave us a proverb: ‘Bi o’ode o dun, bi igbe ni’gboro ri’. I know there are no quick fixes but I also know that if there is anyone who has the capacity to do something about our current situation, that person is you. This should be the legacy you should think of. Your legacy is our future.

Yours Very Sincerely,
Adebayo Adeyinka

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[Ayo Ojutalayo]

Ken,

Please produce evidence of those that don't understand "the trajectory of Adebayo Adeyinka letter"?

 

Ayo Ojutalayo

“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. ” . . . Martin Luther King Jr

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Subject: RE: Ayo Ojutalayo on Ken Asagwara: Re: Yorubas and the letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

[Mobolaji Aluko]

Ken Asagwara:

I read your "Amen" to my first-line prayer for you and your progeny...that is good.

Moving on....

I will end your twisting on this subject, because your bia-bia ain't looking good on this one...

So it looks as if you anointed "Adebayo Adeyinka" as a "Yoruba leader" because of his syntactic efficiency and your apparent thinking that he destroyed Yoruba ethnic pride with his write-up?  Those are rich lies.

And have you read any Yoruba fellow criticize Adebayo Adeyinka yet?  I have not...you were the first one jumping up and down - typical for your ilk - and that is why your bia-bia head is being used to break a coconut by a few of us......

But your head is so hard and stubborn that the coconut has been broken, but you are putting your head forward for another coconut....

And there you have it....moving on...

Bolaji Aluko

[Asagwara, Ken (EAL)]

Bolaji Aluko:

 

May you know this much. Whatever weapons you fashioned against me in any form or shape will be yours to reap, Amen. So your prayer in whatever negative intent is back to sender, Amen.

 

While you and your gang have been shitting, on yourselves about who is and not your Yoruba leader, those who see some well meant intent in the man’s letter are digesting it. That they are not shouting themselves hoarse like you and gang means they understand what you failed to understand. Were I a Yoruba son, I would be pleased with Adebayo Adeyinka’s letter written with the best of intent and he did not insult anyone from the way I see it.

 

A beg, move on, jare.

[Joe Attueyi]

Ayo Ojutalayo:

 

I know you are reading and comprehension challenged

Ken

How can you say that?

Are you not aware that Ayo graduated with a 2:1 from UNIFE. 

Don't ask him for proof though. He may give you affidavit. Hehehehe 

Joe

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[Adeniran Adeboye]

Mr. Agwunobi, 

Real fiction can be very interesting, even exciting; deliberate falsehood can only be malicious.

Adeniran Adeboye

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[Ayo Ojutalayo]

I regret not having been posted to St Gregory's College for NYSC. I would have been his English teacher, and he would have been my attack dog on these forums.

Ayo Ojutalayo

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[Ezeana Igirigi Achusim]

Ken:

Bolaji is from Ekiti. Ekiti folks know a lot about boomerangs. 

And I am

Ezeana Igirigi Achusim

Odi-Isaa

Nwa Dim Orioha AkA Onyeukwu 

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[Abraham Madu]

" The glory has departed from the Yoruba nation." by Adebayo Adeyinka

"The Yoruba nation is in a state of arrested development." by Adebayo Adeyinka

I didn't know that!

I bet you that Afis, Wayo Boy Ayotade Ojutalayo, Alhaji Yahaya Amori, a.k.a Jerome Niang Yakubu , Aluko Bolaji, didn't know that either.

WAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I told them that the Igbo hold the keys to their salvation.

 

Ha ga gụa ihe Adebayo Adeyinka gwara ha: “The glory has departed from the Yourba nation. The Yoruba nation is in a state of arrested development.”

Hausa/Fulani were looking how to get their head and they cut their head and handed it over to them. What a people.

Biafra kwenu!

YAA!

Biafra gwụọrọ ọbịara ga egbu mụ gbuo onwe ya.

Ya kpọtụba!

Ya gazie.

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[Abraham Madu]

From time immemorial, I have known that the onetime military governor of the old western region is Robert Adeyinka Adebayo and not Adebayo Adeyinka. Bolaji Aluko, can you see the difference? And why are you guys twisting yourselves into pretzels and dried crayfish looking for someone to find fault with in what the man, fellow Yoruba wrote? I know most of you Yoruba Nigerians do not enjoy reading anything negative about your ethnic nation. I can understand because I too, do not enjoy reading anything negative written or posted about my Igbo ethnic nation by fellow Igbo. And when such happens, I do not go about looking for outsiders to blame for what I read. I take on the Igbo author directly, if the need be. And in doing so, I will present a redirect to him/her where things stated are not really correct. That is what you and any other having hiccups over Adebayo Adeyinka’s public letter to Bola Ahmed Tinubu should do. That much I expected from an educated man like you instead of trying to blame me for what you read concerning the Yoruba that apparently displeased you. What you and that Yoruba master idiot and clown Baba Were Dunwo Afis Odidere are trying to do is akin to the chicken cooking in the pot bending its neck for the pot instead of the knife that sliced its throat. Please carry go.

 

As you are wont to say, there you have it.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

Ụmụ nne Abrahamụọgụ Aṅụsịobi Madụ.

Chineke nkele.

Chineke Biafra dị kwa ebube,HO! HA!

Maazị Daniel Akusiobi go to my time line and enjoy the music: Chineke nkele!

Gbachi ndị ara nkịtị ka ha ga nwụara onwe ha!

Anyị emerigwo ha.

Ha ga gụa ihe Adebayo Adeyinka gwara ha: “The glory has departed from the Yourba nation. The Yoruba nation is in a state of arrested development.”

Hausa/Fulani were looking how to get their head and they cut their head and handed it over to them. What a people.

Biafra kwenu!

YAA!

Biafra gwụọrọ ọbịara ga egbu mụ gbuo onwe ya.

Ya kpọtụba!

Ya gazie.

Ụmụ nne Abrahamụọgụ Aṅụsịobi Madụ.

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[afis 'Deinde]

Chukwuma you dey craze sef.

But you are funny egbue Ewu!

Shikena 

Afis

“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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[afis 'Deinde]

Good evening, Dr Aluko:

You are quiet right sir.

I refused to read the trash from Adebayo Adeyinka, probably a fake name. So I didn't connect the names.

Two political stalwarts in Naija sent it thru "whatsup", I just deleted it.

KC AsanWere Asagwara sent it to me twice, I ignored the moron and the letter, until he posted it mentioning my name to respond again the third time. 

I merely glanced thru it, and KC's mention of "a Yoruba leader" just made me go after him.

KC is too dubious a character, he doesn't know the difference between lying and telling the truth.

The guy is lying if you see his thick Okoro lips moving!

Shikena 

Afis

“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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[Mobolaji Aluko]

Aduba:

Buska must have done so - contacted the General - through the abundance of caution.  There are too many impressionable Nigerian forum members, who just JUMP at any news, and confuse themselves with names and events profusely.  

Imagine some around here, of Ezeana Igirigi's ilk, who take "Smart" "Chukwuka" Agwunobi as a Nigerian "historian", a Forrest Gump of sorts, a toy water-providing boy "soldier" to his cousin General Alabi-Isama of fame  - a completely unhinged fiction writer who nevertheless peppers his long screen brain dumps with insane viciously-animalistic jokes to invoke cowardly deniability!

Lord have mercy!

And there you have it.  I believe that I have fully explained why the Good General's sleep needed to be bothered by Buska, who by the way has DIRECT access to him, otherwise the General would have written the denial himself..

Bolaji Aluko

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 1:47 AM, Baduba54 <badu...@aol.com> wrote:

As confirmed by Buska himself in a quick call to the General himself - for which we should all express gratitude

Please why was a call to the peacefully retired general necessary? His name was not mentioned in the essay.

Aduba

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[Chukwuemeka Okala]

"...deliberate falsehood can only be malicious."  -  Adeniran Adebayo

Comment:

Prof. Adeniran Adebayo,

I agree with you that "deliberate falsehood can only be malicious" with a caveat that it's coming from a person of a sound mind. But what you have just read below is a package from a madman. At the peak of his insanity, he comes to the listserv and releases a huge pile of grossly antithetical rubbish in the name of a write-up and disappears - a piece that can only be written by a madman. He reappears about the same time the next day to do the same thing. Our friend, Chukwuma Agwunobi is in a very terrible mental state. Please pray for him! 

Emeka Reuben Okala

London, UK

"Faith [Religion] and reason are not necessarily opposed. But when reason won't take you another step, faith keeps on going because it connects you to God."   

[Adeniran Adeboye]

Brother BUSKA,

Many thanks for the contact with General Adebayo. Se alaafia ni won wa o?

Adeniran Adeboye

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On Jun 21, 2016, at 3:04 AM, BUSKA <alare...@gmail.com> wrote:

Prof, sir, just spoken with Gen Adebayo now, said the letter never emanated from him as there's no need for such as Tinubu is just a phone call away from him anytime anyday 

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On Jun 21, 2016, at 5:08 AM, Adeniran Adeboye <aade...@mac.com> wrote:

Dear Brother Afis,

The General's name is Adeyinka Adebayo, not Adebayo Adeyinka. All the time I have read the general's public messages, he had signed off as "Gen.(rtd) Adeyinka Adebayo". Thus this writer is probably not the general.

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[Wharfery Snake]

Emekna Oknala,

Who is Prof. Adeniran Adebayo?

WS - A revered prince of Mushin.

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[Wharfery Snake]

Mazi Aduba,

Without cheap source of energy ( electricity) there cannot be centers of manufacturing in Nigeria. In the past some were able to do it and compete because the manufacturing centers were still in the western world where cost of production was high. With the emergence of China and the lowered cost of production it would be virtually impossible to generate your own power and still undercut the Chinese. The cry of the General should be directed at the governing elites mostly as he did by addressing it to the Asiwaju. 

WS - A revered prince of Mushin.

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On Jun 21, 2016, at 11:24 PM, Baduba54 <badu...@aol.com> wrote:

Please produce evidence of those that don't understand "the trajectory of Adebayo Adeyinka letter"?

 

1. The call to honorably retired general
2. We are not talking about the deterioration of Nigeria which is the  "the trajectory of Adebayo Adeyinka letter"
3. Nobody has said a word to contradict or support the points he made

Aduba

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Subject: Re: Ayo Ojutalayo on Ken Asagwara: Re: Yorubas and the letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

Ken,

Please produce evidence of those that don't understand "the trajectory of Adebayo Adeyinka letter"?

 

Ayo Ojutalayo

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Subject: RE: Ayo Ojutalayo on Ken Asagwara: Re: Yorubas and the letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

Ayo Ojutalayo:

 

I know you are reading and comprehension challenged. I said that there are those of you that will see the letter as being negative to your Yoruba image. It means not that all Yorubas would.

 

And Dodowa’s action, "I like the message so much, I posted it on the Egbe Omo Yoruba DFW website --- it speaks so much to our complacency." . . .

shows he understood the trajectory of Adebayo Adeyinka letter; unlike some of you that contouring yourselves into an undulating landscape map duo to hurt ego.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara 

 

 

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"I like the message so much, I posted it on the Egbe Omo Yoruba DFW website --- it speaks so much to our complacency." . . . Dododawa 

 

http://www.omoyorubadfw.org/letter-to-Yoruba.html

 

 

Ken Asagwara,

 

To the best of my knowledge, Dododawa's above represents the reaction of different Yorubas to the letter. You are wrong to say or imply that Yorubas see the letter as "negative to Yoruba"

 

Ayo Ojutalayo

“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. ” . . . Martin Luther King Jr

 

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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

I like the message so much, I posted it on the Egbe Omo Yoruba DFW website --- it speaks so much to our complacency. 

 

http://www.omoyorubadfw.org/letter-to-Yoruba.html

 

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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

Dokita:

 

As confirmed by Buska himself in a quick call to the General himself - for which we should all express gratitude - this open letter could simply NOT simply have been written by

the "General Adeyinka Adebayo", but one "Adebayo Adeyinka", who "so Yoruba ni gbere ipako" (calling the Yoruba to its senses) more that the protagonist Tinubu.   It would just have been simply aculturally inappropriate  otherwise.

 

I would have been surprised if "Asagwara Kenneth" wrote it with a pen name  - or knows who wrote it - but I am not surprised that Ken Asagwara commented as if the General did, jumping up and down as he did.

 

And there you have it.  Another mystery author solved.

 

 

Bolaji Aluko

Having a belly laugh

  

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 5:08 AM, Adeniran Adeboye <aade...@icloud.com> wrote:

 

Dear Brother Afis,

 

The General's name is Adeyinka Adebayo, not Adebayo Adeyinka. All the time I have read the general's public messages, he had signed off as "Gen.(rtd) Adeyinka Adebayo". Thus this writer is probably not the general.

 

Cheers,

 

Adeniran Adeboye

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[Adeniran Adeboye]

Mazi Ken,

1. I am not aware of any on Yoruba who is rejecting Adebayo Adeyinka off hand or his message or both.

2. It is even possible ordinarily tooverlook your commutation of the writer's first and last names and thus mistake him for the retired general. However your initial post went waaaaay beyond that: its message was a thinly veiled, but clearly exuberant, triumphalism because you saw the letter as a Yoruba leader's confirmation of the repeated assertions by many Igbo that all is not well in the Yoruba homeland.

3. The good news is that we, the Yoruba, are always aware of where the shoes pinch and hence we take the letter as a good faith "gbeere ipako" as Prof Aluko has written.

4. Americans say, "the game is not over until the fat lady sings", and even though I don't know whether or not you are fat, I strongly believe that you are not a lady.😀

Cheers,

Adeniran Adeboye

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[Afis Deinde]

".....Buska, who by the way has DIRECT access to him, otherwise the General would have written the denial himself.."......VC.

I love curveballs, I was born full of it.

Hehe!

Afis

“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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[Wharfery Snake]

Alagba Afis,

Pardon me sir but is Bolaji Aluko still a VC? I supposed to you meant to write ex-VC or the more formal colloquial of VC Mofolaji Aluko (dismissed).

WS - A revered prince of Mushin.

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[Asagwara, Ken (EAL)]

Dr. Adeniran Adeboye:

 

You stated inter alia:

“However your initial post went waaaaay beyond that: its message was a thinly veiled, but clearly exuberant, triumphalism because you saw the letter as a Yoruba leader's confirmation of the repeated assertions by many Igbo that all is not well in the Yoruba homeland.”

 

Sir; am at a loss to understand how a very knowledgeable and exposed man like you understood my simple prologue to Adebayo Adeyinka’s letter that made its rounds in the Nigerian internet forums to mean as you stated, especially, the underlined. Pray; what is there to be “exuberant” or “triumphalism” about? The contents of that letter in regards to oversight in addressing socio-economic underdevelopment in the SW cuts across Nigeria’s ethnic nationalities; in fact, more so, in Igbo land. That letter was forwarded to Igbo Diaspora internet forums with underlining of the huge investments Igbo business entrepreneurs have outside Igbo land, e.g., Lagos and Abuja; a situation that is inimical to economic growth in Igbo land of which many of us, Igbo have continued to call on our business entrepreneurs to divest in those places and take their investments back to Ala-Igbo. Every thinking person would know that in the event that Nigeria breaks up, especially, if violent, the Igbo ethnic nation of Nigeria may be worse off for it due to their huge investments outside Igbo land. So, what is there to feel “exuberant’’ or “triumphalism” when Igbo businesses that should be in Igbo land are situated outside Igbo land at our peoples economic expense? My dear doctor Adeboye even you, read my prologue from a mindset. And for that, you concluded very wrongly. How unfortunate!

 

As for, “Americans say, "the game is not over until the fat lady sings", and even though I don't know whether or not you are fat, I strongly believe that you are not a lady.”

Well, I take it for the pun you meant it to be albeit made in bad taste. I believe you have seen my photo. But if you say you have not, ask Bolaji Aluko for it. He is good in searching out my photo and circulating it in the Nigerian internet forums.

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[Chukwuma S. Agwunobi]

Adulterer Mobolaji “Ebenezer” Aluko:

 

Thank you for writing and hope you will keep it up. Please continue to write because I am tired of your unpaid IKWERRE-IGBO boy Nwa Okala. You may want to start paying him so that he can do better job for you.

 

Aduba: Buska must have done so - contacted the General - through the abundance of caution.  There are too many impressionable Nigerian forum members, who just JUMP at any news, and confuse themselves with names and events profusely.

Ahaaa, so BUSKA is now your source of information? I thought BUSKA was a liar during the Campaign time. The article would have been true if Robert Adeyinka Adebayo has said these things against the Igbo’s. Anuoffiah. You will never have peace and rest of mind with Igbo’s. Those Igbo’s, who will defend you, will only do that in private.

 

Imagine some around here, of Ezeana Igirigi's ilk, who take "Smart" "Chukwuka" Agwunobi as a Nigerian "historian", a Forrest Gump of sorts, a toy water-providing boy "soldier"

ALUKO, SMART is a poor man’s son who worked odd jobs to pay for his education to become a Senior Engineer at Baker & Hughes, Applied Materials, Ford Motors and Boeing. I didn’t get First Class from any school where my Mama and Papa are working. I didn’t work or worked in these places because my Mama and Papa dey work for there and influenced my promotions, pay raise and bonuses. Na my Forrest Gump and Boy Soldier brain got it all for me.

 

Me no getam because my papa na HOD of Design and Structural Analysis Group. It is not UNIFE or Ngbati Company. Na Oyibo people full here. We no dey speak Ngbati, Ngbati here.

 

If I can get First Class, sure and proud of it without my Mama and Papa influencing their fellow Teachers to put jara mark to make them proud as mama and papa of awufu shameless son, I will do my PhD at Cambridge, Oxford, Stanford, UC, Berkley, CALTECH, Harvard, MIT, Yale, Cornel, Glasgow, Princeton and other top schools. I will not even go to any school where mama and papa dey work for my first degree.

 

Or if you are all that without Mama and Papa First Class, why didn’t you go and teach at Cambridge, Oxford, Stanford, UC, Berkley, CALTECH, Harvard, MIT, Yale, Cornel, Glasgow, Princeton, Emory, UT, Austin, University of Michigan, UMASS and Rice? Are you telling me/us that Howard is the only School your ass can progress in your Teaching career?

 

Your bad luck is so much that BUHARI sacked you through the news media.

 

You are Igbo hater and ethnic irredentist. I asked you before what are the fictions in my write ups? Yes, I added some humors to my write up to ease up your soul and not faint or commit suicide reading things I will write about you. You categorized and classify my mails every day.

 

Today is fictions, before you said it was all Njakiri, Comic, lies, and façade just to relegate all I said about you. Every Igbo person write up is lies, Njakiri, ilks on and on. Aluko,

 

Is it a Fiction that your dad was wanted for SEDITION by Akintola? If not why did he run to Mid-West and Eastern Region?

 

Is it a fiction that Igbo’s saved your dad from been killed by Akintola Killers for SEDITIOUS Act that ignited the WETTIE? If not why did he run to Mid-West and Eastern Region?

Are you older than me? Why do you think you know Nigeria History more than I do when I was already in Class One in 1967? My mother was a Historian and older than you father, so what make you think you will know History more than me?

 

My immediate sister got her Teachers Grade II from Sacred Heart Teachers Training College, Ubiaja, NCE and Degree in History, so what make you think you know Nigeria History more than I do?

 

My dad was older than Zik and Awo. I lived to see his uncle who died in 1978. Uncle Chukwukere knows about Amalgamation and when Asoro and Overanmen were taken to Calabar in 1897.

 

I say what made educated idiot like you to think that you know about Nigeria History more than me?  A fool like you, just because your dad was a Professor made you to think that you know more than everybody.  

 

Aluko, is it a Fiction that your brother was caught with stolen N800 Million Nigeria money? Was he exonerated? If so, which Court tried and cleared him? Don’t tell me that KUKAH panel did because that was a Political Panel. He never took the witness stand in court to take hard ass whipping interrogations from experienced Lawyers.

 

Is it a Fiction that you attended UNIFE where Mama was the Registrar and Papa was the HOD? That is a pure conflict of interest. Their presences influenced and sway fellow Teachers in giving your ass jara grades to make them proud.

 

Why UNIFE? Tell me why UNIFE where Mama was the Registrar and Papa was the HOD?

 

Why didn’t you go to UNN, UI, UNILAG, ABU or UNIBEN? Are you telling us that UNIFE was the best place to do your Major? Do you think you would have made 1^st Class if it has been other schools?

 

Bring your stupid answer sheets and let me pay independent Examiners to re-grade your question papers because I don’t feel comfortable with your so called Mama and Papa First Class and let’s see if you will get 2^nd Class Lower or 3^rd Class.

 

Anybody who went through University education knows the functions of a REGISTRAR with regards to recording and documenting Students Grades. They can add, delete and upgrade bad grades in Students transcripts. Aluko, something is fishy with your school at UNIFE.

 

I would have valued a 3^rd Class or 4^th Class degree from you if you have earned it at Gombe State University or Zamfara State University where Mama was not the Registrar and Papa was not the HOD?

 

Aluko, but why is that you must always get a little push up from your mama and papa to square up with your mates?

 

Aluko, is it a fiction that your dad was the Economic Advisor to Awo, Ajasin and Abacha? And what were the results or accomplishment from all these positions?

 

Is it a fiction that your dad was working with a Butcher and murderer called Abacha who was killing his people and refused to leave when he was called upon by his people to leave?

 

Aluko is it a fiction that your dad was so determine to have a State for EKITI people that he blackmailed and railroad AFENIFERE, Ngbati MD/CEO Bankers and recommended to Abacha to throw them in jail without trial?  

 

Is it a fiction that your dad recommended 20 pounds for Igbo’s coming back from war, close Nsukka, ban Okrika, Stockfish and Hollandis where he knew Igbo’s has an edge over Ngbati people?

 

ALUKO, why did you join NADECO? You joined NADECO not because you like their activities but to save your dad’s head and acted as a double Agent for Abacha. Your presence or member of NADECO deflated the anger of Ngbati people on your father. Simply put it, you joined NADECO to save your dad’s head and family reputation.

 

Your dad serving Abacha when he locked up OBJ was one of the reasons OBJ targeted your brother and insulted your father.

 

No Igbo person is as good as any other Nigerians that was why you frustrated and failed a lot of them with bad grades and gave “A” to those you like just for coming to your class.

 

Is it not the hate that consumed your heart that made you to look down on Nwanna Obi’s articles? By your own admission, he attended Washington University, St. Louis. Just that you know, I lived in St. Louis, Missouri while working for Ford Motor. Washington University is one of the Ivy League Schools in America. Nwanna Obi didn’t get dashed Grades of A from you.

 

You are a disgrace to Academic communities.

 

Born to his cousin General Alabi-Isama of fame  - a completely unhinged fiction writer who nevertheless peppers his long screen brain dumps with insane viciously-animalistic jokes to invoke cowardly deniability!

Lookia Aluko, you know that I am language challenged. Please try to write simple English so that I can understand and respond accordingly.

 

All these twist and join Oyibo from Mama and Papa given degree from UNIFE is confusing to me.

 

Now, how many times am I going to talk about Chief Isama to you and NOWA? You are still not convinced that I know him or he is from the same town with my mother ehn? If so ask Tony Ishiekwene and Tony Eluemunor. Tony Eluemunor and my mother are from the same Clan in Utagba-Uno.

 

My mother’s younger brother is the richest man in Ukwuani. I am telling you this for the first time. Again, ask Tony Ishiekwene and Tony Eluemunor if you are in doubt. Or ask any Ukwuani person you know.

 

Why mentioning Chief Isama name? What is so special about him? He fought the war, so what?

 

By the way, Ukwuani people don’t bear ISAMA. They bear ISAGBA & ISAKPA. Aniochas bear ASAGBA. Chief Isama changed his own to ISAMA to reflect Ngbati name when he was switching sides during the 60’s Military crisis.

 

These are the Military men from the same town like Chief Isama and my mother.

 

Retired Admiral Onah,he got me VISA to come to USA.

  

Lt. Colonel Ogbodo  

 

Lt. Colonel Agam deceased  

 

Lt. Colonel Ogwe deceased  

 

Lt. Colonel Kelikume deceased  

 

Other young Ukwuani Army Officers are from the same town with my mother. Apart from Retired Admiral Onah, others fought the war on the Nigeria side.I know all of them very well and their war story is totally different from that of Chief Isama writing from Ngbati views.

 

Chief Isama is your hero because he wrote negative things about Igbo’s and OBJ. Igbo’s and OBJ are your freaky nightmare. OBJ insulted your father and destroyed your brother’s Political career for stealing Nigeria money. You just can’t take it.

 

What else buster? I met Chief Isama in Houston, Texas in the late 80’s at his office in downtown Houston and at McGregor Hotel, Asaba on January 8, 2014 when I went to renew my Passport in the company of four Ukwuani guys and we had a heated argument about his book and the war.

 

The Ukwuani guys were giving me eye signal to stop when many people started gathering to listen to the argument especially when I asked him to show me where they have Hausa Quarter at Asaba and how he minimized the killing of Asaba people and Igbo civilians during the war. We were there for about two hours.   

 

What else fool? Chief Isama daughter had her marriage with a British man and ordered to perform the wedding at Utagba-Uno instead of Lagos or London. This is to bring himself closer home to the Ukwuanis. I didn’t go. His house and my maternal home are just like Oyingbo and Iddo. He passes through my maternal family home to go to his house. So, why mentioning his name?

 

Some friends want me to meet Chief Isama first son by name Tokunbo. He is a Lawyer and I refused. So what the hell are you talking about? Tokunbo responded to my mails directed to his father in Ukwuani forum. He was cordial. I don’t want to meet him because he will not like what I will say.

 

ALUKO, you cannot spin your way out of you evil. You cannot run your mouth and talk your way out of your family evil and ungratefulness. Your father was among those that caused the war that consumed million Igbo people’s lives.

 

You are angry because I keep saying it. I don’t want a damn thing from you. You want the truth about the war and I am telling you the truth now.

 

ALUKO FAMILY HAVE THE BLOODS OF IGBO CHILDREN, WOMEN, OLD AND DISABLE IN THEIR HANDS.

 

The ALUKOS have MARK OF CAIN on their foreheads. Anybody that answers the name ALUKO has to be questioned whether he/she is from EKITI. And if he/she is from EKITI, he/she will be treated as a pariah.

 

Finally, before I believe and regard your Degree, you must show us your Test Answer Sheets from UNIFE because I am still nervous with this your Mama and Papa Degree. It is only the Ngbati people and Igbo haters that will regard your 1^st Class, but not me. You must show us the Answer sheets of Ngbati and Igbo students in your classes at Howard.

 

You must also tell us who were your male friends and Girl Friends at UNIFE and what was her/their Major (s). If she was Economic Major and she graduated with anything more than 3^rd or 4^th Class, you must be questioned and investigated because you may have given them/her your Papa Test Questions for GUITAR.

 

You are Evil, wicked with rotten Soul that dashes Grades like Hausa/Fulani’s Jackass, Jackboot Soldiers dashes Ranks and Promotions based on who they like and hate without regards to merits.

 

I am coming with more that will send you packing out of Yahoo Forums.Liar, Lia will not cut it for me. I am determined to deal squarely with you and your stooges.

 

AZI GBAKWA GI, ONYE ARURA, ONYE AHUHU. EGBULE GBU KWAGI.

 

TUFIAKWA, OZU

 

NA ME AND YOU.

 

And with this, I rest my case.

 

Chukwuma "Vicious Animal" Agwunobi

Seattle, Washington U. S. A

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[Asagwara, Ken (EAL)]

The Imperialist:

 

Bro, you got it all wrong. It is not a matter of “superstition”. Bolaji Aluko is an evil-minded person given to ill-wills against disagreeing fellows, especially, if an Igbo person. Have you not been reading him in the forums. He claims to be a Christian yet, before you know it, he invokes negative wishes contrary to what is expected of a Christian and child of God. I sent back to him whatever it was that came out of his evil mind and heart through the same means he invoked it. It is not a matter of “believe anyone can easily attack or hurt you online”. It is a matter of spoken words of ill-will which invariably, go back to the source. Hope you have understood.

 

Cheers.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

 

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Dr Asagrawa,

 

With your donkey years in the West and several years of training so you are as superstitious as an average black African or a Nigerian on the street ?

 

So you believe anyone can easily attack or hurt you online ? 😀😀 😀😀😅😉

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Chimperial,

Dr Asagwara is an African and the African cannot shirk his belief system because s(he) is passing through a foreign land. Chimperial, are you that fickle that you will forget your self because you traveled to a foreign land?

WS - A revered prince of Mushin.

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Dr Asagrawa,

With your donkey years in the West and several years of training so you are as superstitious as an average black African or a Nigerian on the street ?

So you believe anyone can easily attack or hurt you online ? 😀😀 😀😀😅😉

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[Chukwuma S. Agwunobi]

Emeka Nwa Okala:

Make you stop dis nonsense of poking nosing into my mail with other people.

You must answer my question and pray harder for me because the way you are doing it is not working.

I gave you 48 hours to respond before I start discharging more Ogbunigwe on your head.

I hate the way wey they treat me.

You go bring that Record and Document wey show sey you no be Igbo.

Me wan see where Okoro people change your greedy ass from RUMU to UMU. 

Me no go leave you alone until you answer my questions.

Onye Oshi, Akpiri

Na me and you.

 

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[Ayo Ojutalayo]

Ken,

You are superstitious, period. You left the village but the village did not leave you. No where in Bolaji's piece did he "invoke negative wishes" to you . . . . again, your reading and comprehension challenges showing!

 

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[Asagwara, Ken (EAL)]

Ayo:

 

Simply keep quiet when you don’t know the origin and context of an issue. Did you read this from Bolaji Aluko:

“Ken Asagwara: 

I read your "Amen" to my first-line prayer for you and your progeny...that is good.”

 

I said it about you prior on many occasion; you are reading and comprehension challenged. Some believe you are a retard.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

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[Otitigbe Obadiah Oghoerore Alegbe PhD]

"ou are superstitious, period. You left the village but the village did not leave you."

Ayo.

Are you joking?

You appea to be more ignorant than I thought.

Na wao. This guy na lawyer.

Otitigbe.

[Afis Deinde]

"Dr Asagrawa,

 

With your donkey years in the West and several years of training so you are as superstitious as an average black African or a Nigerian on the street ?

 

So you believe anyone can easily attack or hurt you online ? 😀😀 😀😀😅😉".......Unknown soldier.

He's afraid of his shadows.

Just a bit better than Ezeana.

Afis

“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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[Afis Deinde]

I seldom make that type of mistake.

You know PhDs don't dazzle Afis, your handiwork is what I wanna see and admire.

First VC of Otuoke U, Dr Aluko, gave hope to the Ijaws and Igbos by building a legacy.

We are proud of him.
Don't be a hater, homie!

Afis

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[Afis Deinde]

".......Sir, am at a loss to understand how a very knowledgeable and exposed man like you understood my simple prologue to Adebayo Adeyinka’s letter that made its rounds in the Nigerian internet forums to mean as you stated, especially, the underlined. Pray; what is there to be “exuberant” or “triumphalism” about?".........KC Asagwara.

This moron KC Asagwara, posted this no-brainer three times trying to catch my attention.

He was so sure he had a Winners Chapel, this Satanic man, now he's backpedaling.

Ha sir, I am shory sir. 

Oluya man!

Why did you need my attention and posted it three times?

Why make specific remark about the importance of the writer calling him Yoruba leader?

Are you so empty headed to believe we believed you were so captivated, so in awe, you call an unknown character "Yoruba leader"?

KC, Oooogbadun you still idiot.....Aiye nfedi si e.

Shikena 

Afis

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[Ayo Ojutalayo]

Ken,

Abuse me if you want. I am leaving you to continue to show your stupidity.

Is "Ken Asagwara: Call me 'foolish' all you want, and I pray that you become as foolish as I am when you grow up, with your full bia-bia........" by Bolaji for which he later said "Ken Asagwara: I read your 'Amen' to my first-line prayer for you and your progeny...that is good" a negative wish? You called him "foolish" and he prayed that you become "foolish" when you grow up. Why were you afraid of his wishing you what you wished him if you were not being superstitious? Once again, you left the village but the village did not leave you.

 

Ayo Ojutalayo

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[Ayo Ojutalayo]

Ken,

You are a liar. Professor Adeboye's understanding of what you wrote was what you meant and intended. That was what all your readers understood what you wrote to mean. You underrate the intelligence of people on the forums by attempting to wriggle out every time you mess up and you are called out. I assure you it is not every time you need to be called out that you are called out.

Ayo Ojutalayo

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[Asagwara, Ken (EAL)]

Ayo:

 

I don’t have to abuse, you do a darn good job of it on yourself. You are indeed a case study in mental discombobulation.

 

You queried, “Why were you afraid of his wishing you what you wished him if you were not being superstitious?”

 

So, if one wished you unwell and you return same to sender, it means you were afraid and superstitious. Common now go, you are a time waste.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

[Asagwara, Ken (EAL)]

Ayo:

 

Do you see how hyperbolic you are?

 

“That was what all your readers understood what you wrote to mean.”

 

Who are “all your readers”? Apparently, you are referring to your gang of a handful that felt their ethnic ego bruised on account of Adebayo Adeyinka’s letter.

 

Like I already stated, I feel your pain and understand your disconcerts. But that is self-inflicted; can’t help you. As for who is, “a liar”, Mr. Ayotade Ojutalayo, look in the mirror.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

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[Abraham Madu]

“Good evening, Dr Aluko:

You are quiet right sir.

I refused to read the trash from Adebayo Adeyinka, probably a fake name. So I didn't connect the names.” Afis Odidere

 

“And have you read any Yoruba fellow criticize Adebayo Adeyinka yet?  I have not...you were the first one jumping up and down - typical for your ilk - and that is why your bia-bia head is being used to break a coconut by a few of us......”

Bolaji Aluko

 

Bolaji Aluko abala ịma njakịrị.

Bolaji Aluko ahapụ nkwa Adebayo Adeyinka na akụ gaba ịmanjakịrị.

This is for your information Bolaji Aluko: “ The glory has departed from the Yoruba nation.” By Adebayo Adeyinka.

“ The Yoruba nation is in a state of arrested development.” By Adebayo Adeyinka.

Bolaji Aluko na achụ oke ebe ụlọ ya na agba ọkụ,kpọm kwem!

Ya kpọtụba!

Ya gazie.

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[Asagwara, Ken (EAL)]

Afis Oladeinde Odidere:

 

The Baba Were Dunwo of Yoruba land, I replied Dr. Adeniran Adeboye a fellow human being. My reply to him was not meant for a bipedal APE known as Afis Deinde Odidere who feels human each time he gets my attention. Obviously, I am very important to your miserable and wasted life.

 

Yoruba master idiot aka Mr. Satan; you keep claiming that I reposted Adebayo Adeyinka’s letter, “three times trying to catch my attention”. Oh; really? And why so? What is so special about a madman that I would want to “catch” its attention?

 

Afis Deinde Odidere, you read Adabayo Adeyinka’s letter and felt your ethnic ego bruised and since, has continued to look for an escape goat to assuage your bruised ego. I am sorry and I do feel your pain and understand your disconcerts. But that is self-inflicted; can’t help you. Anyone that read Adebayo Adeyinka’s letter would regard him as a leader in his own right because he wrote as one wanting better future for his people. Afis Deinde Odidere aka Mr. Satan, the man is worth more than you will ever be for the Yoruba ethnic nation of Nigeria. You are a non-entity that called your Yoruba superior, “an unknown character”. You Efulefu Yoruba master idiot; a country bumpkin insulting his superior. Shame on you, punk!

 

You are crying that I called, “him Yoruba leader” and for that, you are twisting your miserable and wasted self into pretzels and having sleepless nights. Very well; I say to you, go hang yourself on the tallest tree near your house in Camden, New Jersey. Or if you are unable to climb due to your bloated body mass, go jump in New Jersey river near you and end it all. Great solution and good riddance to a heap of rubbish that you are.

 

Oloriburuku Afis Deinde Odidere the Baba Were Dunwo of Yoruba land self-exiled in Camden, New Jersey, USA. Go get a life.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

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[Tajudeen]

Thanks to the adebayo adeyinka, person for pointing out the areas that we the Yorubas need to do better. 

I wonder why the adebayo adeyinka guy/gal decided to present himself or herself as a child who is pointing to his /her father's house with a left finger. Every Yoruba knows what we call such a child. 

Thanks,

Tajudeen Raji 

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[Asagwara, Ken (EAL)]

Folks:

 

I just read the rejoinder below from Shola Oyeyipo. I am wondering, if the caterwauling gang of Bolaji Aluko, Baba Were Dunwo Afis Odidere, Ayotade Ojutalayo, etc., have read it and are ashamed to attack him (the writer) on account of their initial deluded reactions.

 

Like I already said, there are those that understood the trajectory  Adebayo Adeyinka’s well-meant letter to Asiwaju Tinubu. Let those that choose to bellyache remain in their self-inflicted pain.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

 

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Subject: Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

 

I wonder why some people are agitated by the candid observations of a respectable Yoruba leader. When I read some comments already laced with tribal sentiments and ego tripping before reading the piece, I thought the retired military general fired salvos, but that is not so after all.

 

For those who may not know the man, he is an elderly man; father of former Ekiti State governor, Niyi Adebayo. He is non-partisan. He has been concerned about improving the lots of Nigerians. He not tribalistic. All his references about Igbo were positive and not insulting in any way. Where you see something you admire, I'm of the opinion that you can make reference to it.

 

It is never easy to attain the rank of a military general - they're intelligent breeds and Adebayo is one fine, though now elderly, military general. By addressing his letter to Tinubu, he knows what he is doing. 

 

Hate him, like him, Tinubu today is an indisputable political force in Nigeria, not just in Yoruba land. So what is bad in speaking to his conscience to use his position to improve the standard of his region by standing with the call for true federalism and industrialising the region? 

 

Recently, during a chat, renowned PDP stalwart in Lagos, Chief Olabode George, who is also a Yoruba leader, told me he was prepared to work with anyone, including Tibunu, if the interest of the South West is to be protected. Would anyone be able to marshall enough argument to say Tinubu will be irrelivant where the batterment of the South-west is to be discussed? And more importantly, I did not see where the ocagenerian retired general referred to Tinubu as Yoruba leaser; he only said the Lagos politician is positioned to influence good fortunes for his people and that he should maximise such opportunity while alive.

 

Mark that Adebayo himself is a renowned elder and leader in Yoruba land - he chairs non-partisan Yoruba Elders' Forum, so by corresponding with Senator Tinubu, he knows what he is was doing and he knows why...

 

Shola Oyeyipo

 

  

 

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[Afis Deinde]

".......Sir, am at a loss to understand how a very knowledgeable and exposed man like you understood my simple prologue to Adebayo Adeyinka’s letter that made its rounds in the Nigerian internet forums to mean as you stated, especially, the underlined. Pray; what is there to be “exuberant” or “triumphalism” about?".........KC Asagwara.

 

 

This moron KC Asagwara, posted this no-brainer three times trying to catch my attention.

He was so sure he had a Winners Chapel, this Satanic man, now he's backpedaling.

Ha sir, I am shory sir. 

Oluya man!

 

Why did you need my attention and posted it three times?

Why make specific remark about the importance of the writer calling him Yoruba leader?

Are you so empty headed to believe we believed you were so captivated, so in awe, you call an unknown character "Yoruba leader"?

KC, Oooogbadun you still idiot.....Aiye nfedi si e.

Afis

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[Afis Deinde]

".......Sir, am at a loss to understand how a very knowledgeable and exposed man like you understood my simple prologue to Adebayo Adeyinka’s letter that made its rounds in the Nigerian internet forums to mean as you stated, especially, the underlined. Pray; what is there to be “exuberant” or “triumphalism” about?".........KC Asagwara.

 

 

This moron KC Asagwara, posted this no-brainer three times trying to catch my attention.

He was so sure he had a Winners Chapel, this Satanic man, now he's backpedaling.

Ha sir, I am shory sir. 

Oluya man!

 

Why did you need my attention and posted it three times?

Why make specific remark about the importance of the writer calling him Yoruba leader?

Are you so empty headed to believe we believed you were so captivated, so in awe, you call an unknown character "Yoruba leader"?

KC, Oooogbadun you still idiot.....Aiye nfedi si e.

Afis

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[Afis Deinde]

"Recently, during a chat, renowned PDP stalwart in Lagos, Chief Olabode George, who is also a Yoruba leader, told me he was prepared to work with anyone, including Tibunu, if the interest of the South West is to be protected. Would anyone be able to marshall enough argument to say Tinubu will be irrelivant where the batterment of the South-west is to be discussed?"........Shola Oyeyipo.

Afis comment: KC AsanWere Asagwara, if you have nothing to do, go find a strained basket full of holes, and like a mad man that you are, try to fill the basket with water.

Shola Oyeyipo considers an ex-convict Akotileta Bode George as "a renowned" human being among PDP Thieves.

Oyeyipo also sees ex-convict Bode George as his kind of "Yoruba leader".

Birds of the same feathers!

This Oloriburuku manshanfani KC AsanWere Asagwara thinks this is kind of people we the majority care about?

This Oloriburuku agba awon were KC AsanWere Asagwara thinks Yoruba at large need his advise.

This KC won't shorire walahi.

Now this Oloriburuku KC is now peddling lies on what I did not say.

This WereDunWo Asagwara brought Adebayo Adeyinka to my doorstep, I ignored him twice, then I let him have big Ekpe the third time he brought it to me.

Now he's lying I was angry about Adebayo's no-brainer. 
Shikena 

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[Afis Deinde]

"Dr Asagrawa,

 

With your donkey years in the West and several years of training so you are as superstitious as an average black African or a Nigerian on the street ?

So you believe anyone can easily attack or hurt you online ? 😀😀 😀😀😅😉".......Unknown soldier.

He's afraid of his shadows.

Just a bit better than Ezeana.

Afis

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On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Asagwara, Ken (EAL) <Ken.As...@gov.mb.ca> wrote:

Bolaji Aluko: 

Like I already stated, you know and I know why you and your gang are having hiccups on account of Adebayo Adeyinka’s public letter to Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu. You read what displeased you and seem to hurt your ethnic pride. That can be understood. Go take issues with him, if you and your cohorts disagree with his reasoned call on a Yoruba leader he believed can rise to the occasion and perhaps, make a difference.  

Go re-read the origin of, “A Yoruba leader who knows and understands it better than you is calling Bola Ahmed Tinubu, the Asiwaju of Yoruba land to come to the rescue” which you excerpted. If you do so with an open mind instead of warped mind, you will see that it was addressed to Michael Idowu who earlier took me to task for saying that Bolaji Ahmed Tinubu is a Yoruba leader.  

In my book, Adebayo Adeyinka stands as a leader over and above Michael Idowu. And if without unnecessary subjectivity and dispassionate emotions you analyze Adebayo Adeyinka’s letter addressed to Tinubu, he wrote the way and manner a leader and perhaps also, an elder, would.  He did not claim to be retired General Robert Adeyinka Adebayo. There is nowhere I or any one that read him would mistake him for the retired General. Your apparent angst is that in the context and contents of his letter that I called him Yoruba leader. Well; Bolaji Aluko and gang, please deal with the man’s message that apparently ruffled your ego and ignore whether he is your leader or not. It’s so amazing what narcissism and ego can do to some folks. 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

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On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Asagwara, Ken (EAL) <Ken.As...@gov.mb.ca> wrote:

Bolaji Aluko: 

Like I already stated, you know and I know why you and your gang are having hiccups on account of Adebayo Adeyinka’s public letter to Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu. You read what displeased you and seem to hurt your ethnic pride. That can be understood. Go take issues with him, if you and your cohorts disagree with his reasoned call on a Yoruba leader he believed can rise to the occasion and perhaps, make a difference.  

Go re-read the origin of, “A Yoruba leader who knows and understands it better than you is calling Bola Ahmed Tinubu, the Asiwaju of Yoruba land to come to the rescue” which you excerpted. If you do so with an open mind instead of warped mind, you will see that it was addressed to Michael Idowu who earlier took me to task for saying that Bolaji Ahmed Tinubu is a Yoruba leader.  

In my book, Adebayo Adeyinka stands as a leader over and above Michael Idowu. And if without unnecessary subjectivity and dispassionate emotions you analyze Adebayo Adeyinka’s letter addressed to Tinubu, he wrote the way and manner a leader and perhaps also, an elder, would.  He did not claim to be retired General Robert Adeyinka Adebayo. There is nowhere I or any one that read him would mistake him for the retired General. Your apparent angst is that in the context and contents of his letter that I called him Yoruba leader. Well; Bolaji Aluko and gang, please deal with the man’s message that apparently ruffled your ego and ignore whether he is your leader or not. It’s so amazing what narcissism and ego can do to some folks. 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

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Chei!

On Wednesday, June 22, 2016 6:20 AM, "Wharfery Snake wharf...@yahoo.com [talkhard]" <talk...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Emekna Oknala,

Who is Prof. Adeniran Adebayo?

WS - A revered prince of Mushin.

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On Jun 22, 2016, at 3:31 AM, 'Chukwuemeka Okala' via NaijaEvent <naija...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

"...deliberate falsehood can only be malicious."  -  Adeniran Adebayo

Comment:

Prof. Adeniran Adebayo,

I agree with you that "deliberate falsehood can only be malicious" with a caveat that it's coming from a person of a sound mind. But what you have just read below is a package from a madman. At the peak of his insanity, he comes to the listserv and releases a huge pile of grossly antithetical rubbish in the name of a write-up and disappears - a piece that can only be written by a madman. He reappears about the same time the next day to do the same thing. Our friend, Chukwuma Agwunobi is in a very terrible mental state. Please pray for him! 

Emeka Reuben Okala

London, UK

"Faith [Religion] and reason are not necessarily opposed. But when reason won't take you another step, faith keeps on going because it connects you to God."   

 

 

 

On Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 0:31, afis 'Deinde <odide...@gmail.com> wrote:

Chukwuma you dey craze sef.

But you are funny egbue Ewu!

Shikena 

Afis

“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

Dear Prof and Gentle people: It has been confirmed that the "writer" is someone other than the Gen (Rtd.) Adeyinka Adebayo, unless folks just want to be mischievous, or engage in general "yabbies" without any meaningful thing to add to the discussion.  Thank you.

-Kola Thomas

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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

Dear Brother Afis,

The General's name is Adeyinka Adebayo, not Adebayo Adeyinka. All the time I have read the general's public messages, he had signed off as "Gen.(rtd) Adeyinka Adebayo". Thus this writer is probably not the general.

Cheers,

Adeniran Adeboye

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On Jun 20, 2016, at 8:11 PM, 'Afis Deinde' via AfricanWorldForum <africanw...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

General Adebayo wrote letter to Tinubu, what's my business?

The General has the right to pen anyone.

Is he right? Of course no!

Only a dry Plank like KC Asagwara would turn that into anything worth discussing.

A village idiot, KC Asagwara, is at it again. Making a fool of yourself is not something you should be boasting about, KC.

You put together a cluster of names like Falae, and his Afenifere Afenifoshi group of old grumpy, and call them my Elders.

Did I ask you an igbo asshole to choose my Elder for me?

Yet this same fool named KC, runs out every time and tell Yoruba they are too subservient and do idobale, while this village fool would boast his Igbos have no respect to give because they are born republicans. Then the fool would quote a stupid igbo proverb "igbo claplanpapapa Eze" meaning Igbos are HEADLESS!

You cannot have it both ways, my village igbo KC Asagwara man, who passed thru Lagos and called himself Lagosian.

When Tinubu and his ACN were messing up I called him out on it, thanks for noticing.  

When he made good decisions I fought for him.

But hear this village idiot KC Asagwara, one would have thought no Yoruba leader or Elder was ever praised or given DUED respect.

Governor Amosun whom I loved, I recently put out a call on him and to him my mind. He's a honest and good leader, but I stand in solidarity with the Tai Solarin Univ lecturers who are going thru some hardship right now.

That's the way I roll.

Do you, a foolish igbo man wants me to call KC Asagwara up anytime I shout out on our Yoruba leaders? They are leaders not my Elders, unless I choose any of them to be my Elder.

They are all politicians if they can't stand the hit, please tell them to get the hell out of the kitchen.

KC the moron, Are you new to politics?

Ever heard a politician being called a crook in your villager's life before or in your little igloo in Canada no one called politicians bad names?

Who did I point to you as my Elder, you this Oloobuuku KC Asagwara?

Oloobuuku KC, did they count Elders in my agboile and one Elder was missing, and I had to borrow candle to search for replacement?

KC Asagwara, I saw the brainless argument you put forth before , I just found it foolish so I ignored it.

Like all Igbo morons you are still chewing the same no-brainer like guava.

Just slap KC and call yourself "Dumbo" for me.

Afis

“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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On Jun 20, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Asagwara, Ken (EAL) <Ken.As...@gov.mb.ca> wrote:

Folks:

 

Many of you may have read the below. But in case you have not, read it and your take is as good as mine. Particularly, Michael Idowu, a few days ago, you queried, “...who made Ahmed Bola Tinubu a Yoruba leader? where and when was that consensus arrived at??? please tell us more. If anything Alhaji Ahmed Bola Tinubu is one of the leaders of APC and not the leader of the Yoruba.” Thanks, Michael

 

You also, apparently disapproved my calling out the Yoruba master idiot and country bumpkin, Afis Deinde Odidere for insulting some Yoruba Elders and Leaders. Well, read the piece below by Adebayo Adeyinka and see that you were wrong on both. A Yoruba leader who knows and understands it better than you is calling Bola Ahmed Tinubu, the Asiwaju of Yoruba land to come to the rescue.

 

It is also contains a lesson or two for those of you that keep pounding your hairy chests under playing the role and importance of the Igbo ethnic nation in the Nigerian question. Enjoy!

 

Cheers.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

 

 

Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

 

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[Ayo Ojutalayo]

Ken: Bolaji Aluko: For the first time since encountering you in the Nigerian internet forums, I now call you a foolish person.

Bolaji: Ken Asagwara: Call me "foolish" all you want, and I pray that you become as foolish as I am when you grow up, with your full bia-bia........

Bolaji: Ken Asagwara: I read your "Amen" to my first-line prayer for you and your progeny...that is good. 

Ken: Bolaji Aluko: May you know this much. Whatever weapons you fashioned against me in any form or shape will be yours to reap, Amen. So your prayer in whatever negative intent is back to sender, Amen.  

Imperial: Dr Asagrawa, With your donkey years in the West and several years of training so you are as superstitious as an average black African or a Nigerian on the street ? So you believe anyone can easily attack or hurt you online ? 😀😀 😀😀😅😉

Ken: The Imperialist: Bro, you got it all wrong. It is not a matter of “superstition”. Bolaji Aluko is an evil-minded person given to ill-wills against disagreeing fellows, especially, if an Igbo person. Have you not been reading him in the forums

Ayo: Ken, You are superstitious, period. You left the village but the village did not leave you. No where in Bolaji's piece did he "invoke negative wishes" to you . . . . again, your reading and comprehension challenges showing!

Ken: Ayo: Simply keep quiet when you don’t know the origin and context of an issue. Did you read this from Bolaji Aluko: “Ken Asagwara: I read your "Amen" to my first-line prayer for you and your progeny...that is good.”  

I said it about you prior on many occasion; you are reading and comprehension challenged. Some believe you are a retard.

Ayo: Ken, Abuse me if you want. I am leaving you to continue to show your stupidity.  

Is "Ken Asagwara: Call me 'foolish' all you want, and I pray that you become as foolish as I am when you grow up, with your full bia-bia........" by Bolaji for which he later said "Ken Asagwara: I read your 'Amen' to my first-line prayer for you and your progeny...that is good" a negative wish? You called him "foolish" and he prayed that you become "foolish" when you grow up. Why were you afraid of his wishing you what you wished him if you were not being superstitious? Once again, you left the village but the village did not leave you.

 

 Ayo Ojutalayo

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 4:08 PM
Subject: [africanworldforum] Re: Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

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[Ayo Ojutalayo]

"And why are you guys twisting yourselves into pretzels and dried crayfish looking for someone to find fault with in what the man, fellow Yoruba wrote? I know most of you Yoruba Nigerians do not enjoy reading anything negative about your ethnic nation. I can understand because I too, do not enjoy reading anything negative written or posted about my Igbo ethnic nation by fellow Igbo. And when such happens, I do not go about looking for outsiders to blame for what I read. I take on the Igbo author directly, if the need be. And in doing so, I will present a redirect to him/her where things stated are not really correct. That is what you and any other having hiccups over Adebayo Adeyinka’s public letter to Bola Ahmed Tinubu should do." . . . . Ken Asagwara

Ken,

You are yet to show us those "looking for outsiders to blame" for the letter to Tinubu which in your own opinion is "negative" about Yoruba nation. 

Ayo Ojutalayo

“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. ” . . . Martin Luther King Jr

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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

[Ayo Ojutalayo]

Ken,

I have just seen yours below with which you agreed with one Shola Oyeyipo that Adebayo Adeyinka who wrote the Letter to Tinubu is "an elderly man; father of former Ekiti State governor, Niyi Adebayo". I remember you later denied ever implying that General Adeyinka Adebayo wrote the letter. You owe us an apology for lying thereby making us look as if we were unnecessarily calling you out.

Ayo Ojutalayo

“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. ” . . . Martin Luther King Jr

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Subject: FW: [NIgerianWorldForum] Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

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[Ayo Ojutalayo]

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 8:47 PM, Asagwara, Ken (EAL) <Ken.As...@gov.mb.ca> wrote:

Bolaji Aluko: For the first time since encountering you in the Nigerian internet forums, I now call you a foolish person. Reason being that I did not anywhere mention the name of retired General Robert Adeyinka Adebayo as the author of the letter to Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu. The name of the author is clearly stated by himself as Adebayo Adeyinka.From time immemorial, I have known that the onetime military governor of the old western region is Robert Adeyinka Adebayo and not Adebayo Adeyinka.

On Wednesday, June 22, 2016 6:31 PM, Asagwara, Ken wrote:

Folks: I just read the rejoinder below from Shola Oyeyipo ("I wonder why some people are agitated by the candid observations of a respectable Yoruba leader. When I read some comments already laced with tribal sentiments and ego tripping before reading the piece, I thought the retired military general fired salvos, but that is not so after all.For those who may not know the man, he is an elderly man; father of former Ekiti State governor, Niyi Adebayo. He is non-partisan. He has been concerned about improving the lots of Nigerians. He not tribalistic."). I am wondering, if the caterwauling gang of Bolaji Aluko, Baba Were Dunwo Afis Odidere, Ayotade Ojutalayo, etc., have read it and are ashamed to attack him (the writer) on account of their initial deluded reactions.

Question for Ken Asagwara

Do you still believe the author of the "Letter to Tinubu" is General Adeyinka Adebayo?

Ayo Ojutalayo

 

 

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Sent: June-22-16 1:37 AM
To: Mobolaji Aluko alu...@gmail.com [NIgerianWorldForum]
Subject: Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

 

I wonder why some people are agitated by the candid observations of a respectable Yoruba leader. When I read some comments already laced with tribal sentiments and ego tripping before reading the piece, I thought the retired military general fired salvos, but that is not so after all.

 

For those who may not know the man, he is an elderly man; father of former Ekiti State governor, Niyi Adebayo. He is non-partisan. He has been concerned about improving the lots of Nigerians. He not tribalistic. All his references about Igbo were positive and not insulting in any way. Where you see something you admire, I'm of the opinion that you can make reference to it.

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 6:31 PM
Subject: FW: [NIgerianWorldForum] Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

Folks:

 

I just read the rejoinder below from Shola Oyeyipo. I am wondering, if the caterwauling gang of Bolaji Aluko, Baba Were Dunwo Afis Odidere, Ayotade Ojutalayo, etc., have read it and are ashamed to attack him (the writer) on account of their initial deluded reactions.

 

Like I already said, there are those that understood the trajectory  Adebayo Adeyinka’s well-meant letter to Asiwaju Tinubu. Let those that choose to bellyache remain in their self-inflicted pain.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

 

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Sent: June-22-16 1:37 AM
To: Mobolaji Aluko alu...@gmail.com [NIgerianWorldForum]
Subject: Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

 

I wonder why some people are agitated by the candid observations of a respectable Yoruba leader. When I read some comments already laced with tribal sentiments and ego tripping before reading the piece, I thought the retired military general fired salvos, but that is not so after all.

 

For those who may not know the man, he is an elderly man; father of former Ekiti State governor, Niyi Adebayo. He is non-partisan. He has been concerned about improving the lots of Nigerians. He not tribalistic. All his references about Igbo were positive and not insulting in any way. Where you see something you admire, I'm of the opinion that you can make reference to it.

Ayo Ojutalayo

“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. ” . . . Martin Luther King Jr

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[afis 'Deinde]

Oloriburuku KC Asagwara, has no brain.

He talks from his fat ass all the time.

He starts a debate, no one blame anyone for Fake Adebayo's essay.

The brainless KC Asagwara comes out and accused Yoruba of blaming others. 

Brainless guy!

Shikena 

Afis

“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

Sent from my iPhone

[afis 'Deinde]

I saw your picture, you looked like an Agbero with your Nna-Oyinbo-wannabe hat, Dan Akusobi.
Look who's talking.
Once I see you guys and your MO, and what you look like, I know what level you truly are.
With that picture I say Dan Akusobi is between an Molue driver and Okada owner!!

All these ground floor guys trying to tell Afis they are something, you checked them out they are nothing.
Hehehehehe!!

Shikena
Afis
“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 25, 2016, at 8:24 PM, Daniel Akusobi <daku...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Prince KC
> Nwanyoo biko, on Afis.
> What other life do you expect a man, Afis and another, Jerome, that have found some life in themselves , a life only possible with us, the Igbos fanning it!.
> Any life for Afis outside our feeding him and deworming his Gulder ( a beer) shape belly would be such possible is an airtight casket.
> We, the Igbos here, are not all that wicked to deny him feeds and air our presence here and responding to his crawling guarantees him. So let Afis live , and Jerome too, so they can keep enjoying being mischief on Igbo affairs.
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 21, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Asagwara, Ken (EAL) <Ken.As...@gov.mb.ca> wrote:
>>
>> trawling

[afis 'Deinde]

"On a more serious note, is dan or Dan a curse word in Yoruba or is it an Mgbati word.

I hereby baptize you with a new name- Dan and dan and shall it be so in Jesus name! "....Dan Akusobi.

Afis comment: This guy, Dan Akusobi is an ignoramus, wet behind the ears Obioma from some doggone village in Igboland, who doesn't know anything about Nigeria and its peoples beyond Onyeoshi village.

"More than five years ago, this Oloobuuku omo ajeokuta mamumi Inyanminrin dan banza, mutumu wofi dan keremi, omo aja lasanlasan, KC AsanWere didn't you say you will stop engaging me? KC your world no go good sef......hehe, aiye e koni da, Dan iska."......Afis.

Dan Akusogun, 

all the "Dan buraobanka or ubanka ya chi wataras", you see up there are from Hausa language, you this moron!

Shikena 

Afis

“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 25, 2016, at 8:56 PM, Daniel Akusobi <daku...@gmail.com> wrote:

Afis,

Your response to KC has a lot of Dan and dan used variously in it.

On a more serious note, is dan or Dan a curse word in Yoruba or is it an Mgbati word.

I hereby baptize you with a new name- Dan and dan and shall it be so in Jesus name! 

HO Ha.

Iseee o!

'Obi.

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On Jun 21, 2016, at 1:51 PM, afis 'Deinde <odide...@gmail.com> wrote:

"I am very much aware that each time I engage you makes you feel human than the bipedal animal in human form that you are. Ok; I may have to stop engaging you. I have humoured you more than plenty enough."......KC AsanWere Asagwara.

Afis comment: More than five years ago, this Oloobuuku omo ajeokuta mamumi Inyanminrin dan banza, mutumu wofi dan keremi, omo aja lasanlasan, KC AsanWere didn't you say you will stop engaging me?

KC your world no go good sef......hehe, aiye e koni da Dan iska.

If what you wrote were true, and you were disinterested in what General Adeyinka Adebayo ex-NPN closet PDP wrote to Tinubu, why did you keep bringing it to my attention for my comments?

You posted it the first time, I that you claimed needed your attention, I ignored it.

Second time, Afis who needed your attention again ignored your Tribal taunting.

Then ELEKETA in Yorubaland is known as AKONKOTAN lodifa fun Inyanminrin Asagwara ti ko mo iwon ara re, tio nlo fo ile Bees-agbon.

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KC AsanWere Asagwara, DAWN Commission is part of the new arrowhead to full industrialization of Southwest.

We call it "AGBAJO OWO LAFI NSANYA".

Tell your Yoruba friend to translate you for you. 

DAWN is doing a fabulous and selfless work to enhance Yoruba resources for the GOOD of all.  I have great confidence in their leadership more than I ever had or trusted General Adeyinka Adebayo, and that's good enough for me.

Alagba Dipo Famakinwa is a trusted and tested omo-akin omo-Odua. 

DAWN IS IN GOOD HANDS. Shikena.

KC, Can you tell us what kind of collective effort you Igbos have to rival Odua Industries?

You keep lying to yourself you are not interested in Yoruba affairs but you run out every time with what you think is bad news for Yoruba or a scintilla of good news for Inyanminrins.

Is it because the army General said Igboland is manufacturing more than Yorubaland that made you giddy up to run out from your Igloo to show Afis?

Are you that childish, KC AsanWere Asagwara?

If you believed General Adeyinka, hey knock yourself out.

He's a closet PDP man, an ex-NPN man.

Those I know I don't change my first opinion on them, leopard never changes its spots.

He was not a friend of Chief Awolowo during Awo's lifetime, his words on Awo are like having OBJ praising Awo.

Wise people know he's up to no good.

For all I care, Asagwara Oloshi man, go stick the general's letter up your  ass!

Shikena 

Afis

“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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On Jun 21, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Asagwara, Ken (EAL) <Ken.As...@gov.mb.ca> wrote:

Afis Oladeinde Odidere:

 

Baba Were Dunwo; listen up.

 

The letter addressed to Bola Ahmed Tinubu, the Asiwaju of Yoruba land was not written by me. For all I know, you can go hang yourself on the tallest tree around you or go jump in the lake and end your misery.

 

Idiotic country bumpkin aka Mr. Satan, get out of my space and go get a life and stop trawling the Nigerian internet forums 24/7/365 day butting into every issue and making a nuisance of yourself stupid self.

 

Do you remember the number of times that I have told you that your life is a waste all your pretenses to the contrary not minding? I am very much aware that each time I engage you makes you feel human than the bipedal animal in human form that you are. Ok; I may have to stop engaging you. I have humoured you more than plenty enough.

 

The Camden, New Jersey clown Afis Deinde Odidere aka Baba Were Dunwo of Yoruba land, oma se ooo. Seriously, go get a life; see your photo again to see how bloated and miserable you are. Perhaps, you may realize how much of a waste you have become.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

Afis

“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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[Mobolaji Aluko]

Dan Akusobi:

I am happy that you now realise it that I learnt your "ama njakiri" at Aba-Ngwa Ariara market/motor park - what you call your "agboro" or "ocho passenger" mentality.  You and your sick ilk think that  you can terrorize others both off and on the Cyber-waves with your ama njakiri as you lie, cheat and blackmail others - sometimes thinking that you are joking (wrongly) around your impressionable ilk - and then when we give them back to you, you call people haters of your ilk.  You do not recognize that you should confine ama njakiri within your "umu", because it is acultural insensitivity of the worst kind..

But since that was not taught to you internally, it will be taught externally....carry  on if no lesson will be learnt....sometimes bitter lessons.

Yep....we shall be here.

And there you have it.

Bolaji Aluko

On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 2:31 AM, Daniel Akusobi <daku...@gmail.com> wrote:

Prof Aluko being an agboro, a skill he learned living few miles away from Aba motor park.
Na waa for these fathers here. Cursing each other and families and generations present, past and future and attaching your God's word - Amen.
I never knew Jesu for blessing curses and sectioning some blessed with "amen".
You guys make me shake my hands more handsomely for rejecting anything that looks like a church and sometimes your bible.
Dan

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> On Jun 21, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Asagwara, Ken (EAL) <Ken.As...@gov.mb.ca> wrote:
>
> progeny

[Afis Deinde]

Dan Akusobi, someone must have lied to you, that you should be a lawyer.

Try to find sharp nails and sit on them!

Afis

“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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On Jun 25, 2016, at 9:41 PM, Daniel Akusobi <daku...@gmail.com> wrote:

Afis

Are you now saying your wishes for Epilepsy and diabetes on dee Achusim were not meant to be real?

I thought they were jokes until you loaded them with magnificent emphases.

Who is more superstitious between you and KC?

Aluko sent his Kumunyic curses via the Internet to K C, you did same and continued to do so every second to Dee . What is the proof in you, Aluko and our return to sender brother KC that you were not speaking out of the abundance of your hearts?

You God and bible crazy bunch must be hiding something about your real selves by invoking God and the bible and letting out your real selves each time your God takes a coffee break from your sight,

You continue to make those of us that have rejected joining in your type of religious faith feel vindicated. Yes, vindicated and rightly too.

Dan

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On Jun 22, 2016, at 3:31 PM, Afis Deinde <odide...@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Dr Asagrawa,

 

With your donkey years in the West and several years of training so you are as superstitious as an average black African or a Nigerian on the street ?

 

So you believe anyone can easily attack or hurt you online ? 😀😀 😀😀😅😉".......Unknown soldier.

He's afraid of his shadows.

Just a bit better than Ezeana.

Afis

“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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On Jun 22, 2016, at 1:55 PM, Asagwara, Ken (EAL) <Ken.As...@gov.mb.ca> wrote:

The Imperialist:

 

Bro, you got it all wrong. It is not a matter of “superstition”. Bolaji Aluko is an evil-minded person given to ill-wills against disagreeing fellows, especially, if an Igbo person. Have you not been reading him in the forums. He claims to be a Christian yet, before you know it, he invokes negative wishes contrary to what is expected of a Christian and child of God. I sent back to him whatever it was that came out of his evil mind and heart through the same means he invoked it. It is not a matter of “believe anyone can easily attack or hurt you online”. It is a matter of spoken words of ill-will which invariably, go back to the source. Hope you have understood.

 

Cheers.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

 

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Subject: ||NaijaObserver|| Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

 

 

Dr Asagrawa,

 

With your donkey years in the West and several years of training so you are as superstitious as an average black African or a Nigerian on the street ?

 

So you believe anyone can easily attack or hurt you online ? 😀😀 😀😀😅😉

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On 21 Jun 2016, at 10:16 PM, 'Asagwara, Ken (EAL)' Ken.As...@gov.mb.ca [AfricanWorldForum] <AfricanW...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Bolaji Aluko: 

May you know this much. Whatever weapons you fashioned against me in any form or shape will be yours to reap, Amen. So your prayer in whatever negative intent is back to sender, Amen.  

While you and your gang have been shitting, on yourselves about who is and not your Yoruba leader, those who see some well meant intent in the man’s letter are digesting it. That they are not shouting themselves hoarse like you and gang means they understand what you failed to understand. Were I a Yoruba son, I would be pleased with Adebayo Adeyinka’s letter written with the best of intent and he did not insult anyone from the way I see it.  

A beg, move on, jare. 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

 

From: Mobolaji Aluko [mailto:alu...@gmail.com]
Sent: June-21-16 4:00 PM
To: Asagwara, Ken (EAL)
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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka 

Ken Asagwara: 

I read your "Amen" to my first-line prayer for you and your progeny...that is good. 

Moving on.... 

I will end your twisting on this subject, because your bia-bia ain't looking good on this one... 

So it looks as if you anointed "Adebayo Adeyinka" as a "Yoruba leader" because of his syntactic efficiency and your apparent thinking that he destroyed Yoruba ethnic pride with his write-up?  Those are rich lies. 

And have you read any Yoruba fellow criticize Adebayo Adeyinka yet?  I have not...you were the first one jumping up and down - typical for your ilk - and that is why your bia-bia head is being used to break a coconut by a few of us...... 

But your head is so hard and stubborn that the coconut has been broken, but you are putting your head forward for another coconut.... 

And there you have it....moving on... 

Bolaji Aluko

 

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Asagwara, Ken (EAL) <Ken.As...@gov.mb.ca> wrote:

Bolaji Aluko: 

Like I already stated, you know and I know why you and your gang are having hiccups on account of Adebayo Adeyinka’s public letter to Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu. You read what displeased you and seem to hurt your ethnic pride. That can be understood. Go take issues with him, if you and your cohorts disagree with his reasoned call on a Yoruba leader he believed can rise to the occasion and perhaps, make a difference.  

Go re-read the origin of, “A Yoruba leader who knows and understands it better than you is calling Bola Ahmed Tinubu, the Asiwaju of Yoruba land to come to the rescue” which you excerpted. If you do so with an open mind instead of warped mind, you will see that it was addressed to Michael Idowu who earlier took me to task for saying that Bolaji Ahmed Tinubu is a Yoruba leader.  

In my book, Adebayo Adeyinka stands as a leader over and above Michael Idowu. And if without unnecessary subjectivity and dispassionate emotions you analyze Adebayo Adeyinka’s letter addressed to Tinubu, he wrote the way and manner a leader and perhaps also, an elder, would.  He did not claim to be retired General Robert Adeyinka Adebayo. There is nowhere I or any one that read him would mistake him for the retired General. Your apparent angst is that in the context and contents of his letter that I called him Yoruba leader. Well; Bolaji Aluko and gang, please deal with the man’s message that apparently ruffled your ego and ignore whether he is your leader or not. It’s so amazing what narcissism and ego can do to some folks. 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

 

 

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Sent: June-21-16 3:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

 

 

Ken Asagwara:

 

Call me "foolish" all you want, and I pray that you become as foolish as I am when you grow up, with your full bia-bia........

 

Moving on.....

 

I thought for once that you would honest.  So when you wrote:

 

QUOTE

 

A Yoruba leader who knows and understands it better than you is calling Bola Ahmed Tinubu, the Asiwaju of Yoruba land to come to the rescue.

 

UNQUOTE

 

"Yoruba leader?"  So anybody who writes an "open letter" to BAT is a "Yoruba leader" in your bearded vocabulary?

 

Do you know this "Adebayo Adeyinka" as different from the "Yoruba Leader" General Adeyinka Adebayo that everybody knows?  Even your own intervention is what slightly confused Afis, why he appended General, and exchanged the first and second names.

 

On a matter of simple honesty, you fail.  Imagine bigger issues?

 

Res Ipas Loquitur...

 

 

Bolaji Aluko

Having a belly laugh

 

PS:  You did not even understand my translation of "So Yoruba ni gbere ipako."  Read it more carefully to understand that I was not criticizing the piece.

 

 

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 8:47 PM, Asagwara, Ken (EAL) <Ken.As...@gov.mb.ca> wrote:

Bolaji Aluko:

 

For the first time since encountering you in the Nigerian internet forums, I now call you a foolish person. Reason being that I did not anywhere mention the name of retired General Robert Adeyinka Adebayo as the author of the letter to Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu. The name of the author is clearly stated by himself as Adebayo Adeyinka.

 

From time immemorial, I have known that the onetime military governor of the old western region is Robert Adeyinka Adebayo and not Adebayo Adeyinka. Bolaji Aluko, can you see the difference? And why are you guys twisting yourselves into pretzels and dried crayfish looking for someone to find fault with in what the man, fellow Yoruba wrote? I know most of you Yoruba Nigerians do not enjoy reading anything negative about your ethnic nation. I can understand because I too, do not enjoy reading anything negative written or posted about my Igbo ethnic nation by fellow Igbo. And when such happens, I do not go about looking for outsiders to blame for what I read. I take on the Igbo author directly, if the need be. And in doing so, I will present a redirect to him/her where things stated are not really correct. That is what you and any other having hiccups over Adebayo Adeyinka’s public letter to Bola Ahmed Tinubu should do. That much I expected from an educated man like you instead of trying to blame me for what you read concerning the Yoruba that apparently displeased you. What you and that Yoruba master idiot and clown Baba Were Dunwo Afis Odidere are trying to do is akin to the chicken cooking in the pot bending its neck for the pot instead of the knife that sliced its throat. Please carry go.

 

As you are wont to say, there you have it.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

 

 

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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

 

Dokita:

 

As confirmed by Buska himself in a quick call to the General himself - for which we should all express gratitude - this open letter could simply NOT simply have been written by

the "General Adeyinka Adebayo", but one "Adebayo Adeyinka", who "so Yoruba ni gbere ipako" (calling the Yoruba to its senses) more that the protagonist Tinubu.   It would just have been simply aculturally inappropriate  otherwise.

 

I would have been surprised if "Asagwara Kenneth" wrote it with a pen name  - or knows who wrote it - but I am not surprised that Ken Asagwara commented as if the General did, jumping up and down as he did.

 

And there you have it.  Another mystery author solved.

 

 

Bolaji Aluko

Having a belly laugh

  

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 5:08 AM, Adeniran Adeboye <aade...@icloud.com> wrote:

 

Dear Brother Afis,

 

The General's name is Adeyinka Adebayo, not Adebayo Adeyinka. All the time I have read the general's public messages, he had signed off as "Gen.(rtd) Adeyinka Adebayo". Thus this writer is probably not the general.

 

Cheers,

 

Adeniran Adeboye

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[Afis Deinde]

Your madness is on again?

So soon, Dan Akusobi?

How did we arrive on planet Delusion and sister orbit Hallucination?

Did I ever tell you I wanna be Igbo?

Afis.                               Dan Akusobi 

Look at you there, Dan? Don't you look like my driver? 

My driver in Nigeria looks better than you. These are the useless Agbero guys we engage here talking trash with their Superiors.

Dan Akusobi, tell the truth, when was the last time you shower?

Your body looks like you need some real Sha-konkon. Do you know konkon in Yoruba?

Yep, you need Sponge!

Where did you come up with this "Afis, I don't have any remedy for your regretting being an Igbo"?

Do I look igbo to you?

Do I look like someone who wannabe Igbo?

Go take your medicine bo.

Now, I need to watch my favorite show on Cable.

Shikena 

Afis

“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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On Jun 25, 2016, at 11:36 PM, Daniel Akusobi <daku...@gmail.com> wrote:

Afis,

Too bad no sharps nor red hot nails can hurt my kind of ass. It is an Igbo kind. So send  more lethal weaponry for another trial.

That such nails, dull ones for that matter, caused you, Afis, most of your chronic butt sores does not mean my arse or any Igbo arse here is as susceptible nails as your Yurobatic butts. 

You can ask Aluko to show you how to develop some immunity for sharps. He lived near Igbo and learned to develop two balls or harden his only one in an Aba motor park.

That is why he is more resistive to 

Agwunobi, his Igbo cyber deterrent.

Lookia! Afis, I don't have any remedy for your regretting being an Igbo. At this your age, you should have gotten comfortable with your Yorubaness or Mgbatitudes.

God knows why he dumped you there, a Yoruba of Mgbati kind. It's not my fault. Ho ha. 

Now let me enjoy this food. Am trying to get to 1/10 of your body weight. 

Dan

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[afis 'Deinde]

Afis.                             And his driver, Dan Akusobi.

I saw what you look like, no Modupe girl would want your ass. Not the well groomed ones I know or knew.

You look like an omolanke driver, or Agbero or my driver-when-not yet bath.

I bet you smell.

Shikena 

Afis

“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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On Jun 25, 2016, at 10:31 PM, Daniel Akusobi <daku...@gmail.com> wrote:

Afis

The closest I have been to an Awusa land was when I stopped in Abuja for 10 minutes before heading HOME by air.

Your crazed Hawusa specialist linguist still did not say whether Dan or dan means a curse word.

I don't speak Hawusa nor do I care to say a word in that language. I definitely care not to know a word in that language. I however understood you were cursing out on KC using dan and Dan.

How did I know you were cursing?

Well, I don't know how else you relate to any Igbo.

Now, what is Danbanza, is it same as Afisnamza and Alukobuza or Alukodambanza?

Fyi: I learned some Yoruba, just enough to understand when they want to quantify a piece of land by area and price. I needed that so I could acquire Ayos family burial ground by legitimate transfers. 

 I also learned enough to say let me play " guitar" ( Agwunobi) each time a Dupe wants a recharge and to say this kind, your p... Is not as watery as that of other Mgnati women that have entertained me for a dime.

Dan

Sent from my iPhone

[Ayo Ojutalayo]

"That's all I expected of your intelligence and stop pounding on the innocent." . . . . Dan Akusobi

Dan,

Are you to tell us what to write and what not to write on these forums? You are a stupid idiot. 

Ayo Ojutalayo

“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. ” . . . Martin Luther King Jr

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Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

Ayo and Prof. Aluko,

I had expected you two would have followed or supported what Afis did, albeit sarcastically in proving to KC that the author of that letter, whether a serf or a lord was right or wrong. Your concerns are rather being misdirected and intent on smearing a reader who we can say, is more interested in the message than in the messenger.

Now say, if it pleases you, that Adeyinka was right in assuming the death of Yoruba, the type Chief Awolowo instituted.

That's all I expected of your intelligence and stop pounding on the innocent.

KC did not kill Batta shoes nor collapsed the Yoruba gworo industries.

Dan

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 21, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Ayo Ojutalayo <ayooju...@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Well, read the piece below by Adebayo Adeyinka and see that you were wrong on both. A Yoruba leader who knows and understands it better than you is calling Bola Ahmed Tinubu, the Asiwaju of Yoruba land to come to the rescue." . . . . Ken Asagwara

Okey Ken, who were you referring to as "Yoruba leader who knows and understands it better than [Michael Idowu] calling Bola Ahmed Tinubu, the Asiwaju of Yoruba land to come to the rescue"? I ask because no "Yoruba leader" bears the name Adebayo Adeyinka whereas Adeyinka Adebayo (Rtd General) is a "Yoruba leader".

 

Ayo Ojutalayo

“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. ” . . . Martin Luther King Jr

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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 3:47 PM

Subject: RE: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

Bolaji Aluko:

 

For the first time since encountering you in the Nigerian internet forums, I now call you a foolish person. Reason being that I did not anywhere mention the name of retired General Robert Adeyinka Adebayo as the author of the letter to Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu. The name of the author is clearly stated by himself as Adebayo Adeyinka.

 

From time immemorial, I have known that the onetime military governor of the old western region is Robert Adeyinka Adebayo and not Adebayo Adeyinka. Bolaji Aluko, can you see the difference? And why are you guys twisting yourselves into pretzels and dried crayfish looking for someone to find fault with in what the man, fellow Yoruba wrote? I know most of you Yoruba Nigerians do not enjoy reading anything negative about your ethnic nation. I can understand because I too, do not enjoy reading anything negative written or posted about my Igbo ethnic nation by fellow Igbo. And when such happens, I do not go about looking for outsiders to blame for what I read. I take on the Igbo author directly, if the need be. And in doing so, I will present a redirect to him/her where things stated are not really correct. That is what you and any other having hiccups over Adebayo Adeyinka’s public letter to Bola Ahmed Tinubu should do. That much I expected from an educated man like you instead of trying to blame me for what you read concerning the Yoruba that apparently displeased you. What you and that Yoruba master idiot and clown Baba Were Dunwo Afis Odidere are trying to do is akin to the chicken cooking in the pot bending its neck for the pot instead of the knife that sliced its throat. Please carry go.

 

As you are wont to say, there you have it.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

 

 

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Sent: June-21-16 2:15 PM
To: Adeniran Adeboye
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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

 

 

Dokita:

 

As confirmed by Buska himself in a quick call to the General himself - for which we should all express gratitude - this open letter could simply NOT simply have been written by

the "General Adeyinka Adebayo", but one "Adebayo Adeyinka", who "so Yoruba ni gbere ipako" (calling the Yoruba to its senses) more that the protagonist Tinubu.   It would just have been simply aculturally inappropriate  otherwise.

 

I would have been surprised if "Asagwara Kenneth" wrote it with a pen name  - or knows who wrote it - but I am not surprised that Ken Asagwara commented as if the General did, jumping up and down as he did.

 

And there you have it.  Another mystery author solved.

 

 

Bolaji Aluko

Having a belly laugh

  

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 5:08 AM, Adeniran Adeboye <aade...@icloud.com> wrote:

 

Dear Brother Afis,

 

The General's name is Adeyinka Adebayo, not Adebayo Adeyinka. All the time I have read the general's public messages, he had signed off as "Gen.(rtd) Adeyinka Adebayo". Thus this writer is probably not the general.

 

Cheers,

 

Adeniran Adeboye

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 20, 2016, at 8:11 PM, 'Afis Deinde' via AfricanWorldForum <africanw...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

[Ayo Ojutalayo]

To the stupid idiot called Dan Akusobi, it was not a "curse" when an Inyanminrin called someone "foolish", but when the Inyanminrin was wished the same, it became a "curse"! 

Ayo Ojutalayo

“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. ” . . . Martin Luther King Jr

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Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 9:31 PM

Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

Prof Aluko being an agboro, a skill he learned living few miles away from Aba motor park.
Na waa for these fathers here. Cursing each other and families and generations present, past and future and attaching your God's word - Amen.
I never knew Jesu for blessing curses and sectioning some blessed with "amen".
You guys make me shake my hands more handsomely for rejecting anything that looks like a church and sometimes your bible.

Dan

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> On Jun 21, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Asagwara, Ken (EAL) <Ken.As...@gov.mb.ca> wrote:
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[Ayo Ojutalayo]

[Abraham Madu]

Mr. Ojutalayo,You asked Mr. Asagwara,

Question for Ken Asagwara

Do you still believe the author of the "Letter to Tinubu" is General Adeyinka Adebayo?

Ayo Ojutalayo

Has anybody ever assigned Mr. Adeyinka's memo to Rtd General Adebayo. Has anybody said a word implying that they taught the the general was the author of the memo? If so please reproduce the text or the context?

Why would an old officer and a gentleman who served his country be dragged around like this?

Aduba

On Monday, June 27, 2016 1:56 AM, "Baduba54 badu...@aol.com [NaijaObserver]" <NaijaO...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Mr. Ojutalayo,You asked Mr. Asagwara,

Question for Ken Asagwara

Do you still believe the author of the "Letter to Tinubu" is General Adeyinka Adebayo?

Ayo Ojutalayo

Has anybody ever assigned Mr. Adeyinka's memo to Rtd General Adebayo. Has anybody said a word implying that they taught the the general was the author of the memo? If so please reproduce the text or the context?

Why would an old officer and a gentleman who served his country be dragged around like this?

Aduba

From: NIgerianW...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:NIgerianW...@yahoogroups.com?]
Sent: June-22-16 1:37 AM
To: Mobolaji Aluko alu...@gmail.com [NIgerianWorldForum]
Subject: Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

 

I wonder why some people are agitated by the candid observations of a respectable Yoruba leader. When I read some comments already laced with tribal sentiments and ego tripping before reading the piece, I thought the retired military general fired salvos, but that is not so after all.

 

For those who may not know the man, he is an elderly man; father of former Ekiti State governor, Niyi Adebayo. He is non-partisan. He has been concerned about improving the lots of Nigerians. He not tribalistic. All his references about Igbo were positive and not insulting in any way. Where you see something you admire, I'm of the opinion that you can make reference to it.

Ayo Ojutalayo

“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. ” . . . Martin Luther King Jr

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[Ayo Ojutalayo]

Mazi Aduba,

Ken Asagwara implied that General Adeyinka Adebayo, who he referred to as "a Yoruba leader", wrote the Letter to Tinubu. When his attention was drawn to the fact that Adebayo Adeyinka is different from Adeyinka Adebayo (General), he denied implying that the General wrote the letter. Later, after reading a Shola Oyeyipo, who mistook the General as the author of the letter,  Ken thought his earlier position had been confirmed by Shola Oyeyipo (who said the General was the author of the letter). That was why Ken on June 22 wrote of "caterwauling gang of Bolaji Aluko, Baba Were Dunwo Afis Odidere, Ayotade Ojutalayo, etc." and their "earlier deluded reactions", referring to those he argued with earlier that he did not imply that the General penned the Letter to Tinubu. I hope it is now clear to you. Ken's inability to answer my question is instructive. He and his own "caterwauling gang" are used to using lies to justify their positions on these forums. And when they are called out, they do not have the decency to apologize.

Concerning your "Why would an old officer and a gentleman who served his country be dragged around like this?", I am wondering how mentioning General Adebayo in a discussion in a public space is dragging him around. Those who served their country all over the world are always mentioned in discussions even long after they have died. 

Ayo Ojutalayo

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Subject: Re: Question for Ken Asagwara: Re: Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

Mr. Ojutalayo,You asked Mr. Asagwara,

Question for Ken Asagwara

Do you still believe the author of the "Letter to Tinubu" is General Adeyinka Adebayo?

Ayo Ojutalayo

Has anybody ever assigned Mr. Adeyinka's memo to Rtd General Adebayo. Has anybody said a word implying that they taught the the general was the author of the memo? If so please reproduce the text or the context?

Why would an old officer and a gentleman who served his country be dragged around like this?

Aduba

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On Jun 22, 2016, at 12:52 PM, 'Chukwuma S. Agwunobi' via NaijaEvent <naija...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Adulterer Mobolaji “Ebenezer” Aluko:

 

Thank you for writing and hope you will keep it up. Please continue to write because I am tired of your unpaid IKWERRE-IGBO boy Nwa Okala. You may want to start paying him so that he can do better job for you.

 

Aduba: Buska must have done so - contacted the General - through the abundance of caution.  There are too many impressionable Nigerian forum members, who just JUMP at any news, and confuse themselves with names and events profusely.

Ahaaa, so BUSKA is now your source of information? I thought BUSKA was a liar during the Campaign time. The article would have been true if Robert Adeyinka Adebayo has said these things against the Igbo’s. Anuoffiah. You will never have peace and rest of mind with Igbo’s. Those Igbo’s, who will defend you, will only do that in private.

 

Imagine some around here, of Ezeana Igirigi's ilk, who take "Smart" "Chukwuka" Agwunobi as a Nigerian "historian", a Forrest Gump of sorts, a toy water-providing boy "soldier"

ALUKO, SMART is a poor man’s son who worked odd jobs to pay for his education to become a Senior Engineer at Baker & Hughes, Applied Materials, Ford Motors and Boeing. I didn’t get First Class from any school where my Mama and Papa are working. I didn’t work or worked in these places because my Mama and Papa dey work for there and influenced my promotions, pay raise and bonuses. Na my Forrest Gump and Boy Soldier brain got it all for me.

 

Me no getam because my papa na HOD of Design and Structural Analysis Group. It is not UNIFE or Ngbati Company. Na Oyibo people full here. We no dey speak Ngbati, Ngbati here.

 

If I can get First Class, sure and proud of it without my Mama and Papa influencing their fellow Teachers to put jara mark to make them proud as mama and papa of awufu shameless son, I will do my PhD at Cambridge, Oxford, Stanford, UC, Berkley, CALTECH, Harvard, MIT, Yale, Cornel, Glasgow, Princeton and other top schools. I will not even go to any school where mama and papa dey work for my first degree.

 

Or if you are all that without Mama and Papa First Class, why didn’t you go and teach at Cambridge, Oxford, Stanford, UC, Berkley, CALTECH, Harvard, MIT, Yale, Cornel, Glasgow, Princeton, Emory, UT, Austin, University of Michigan, UMASS and Rice? Are you telling me/us that Howard is the only School your ass can progress in your Teaching career?

 

Your bad luck is so much that BUHARI sacked you through the news media.

 

You are Igbo hater and ethnic irredentist. I asked you before what are the fictions in my write ups? Yes, I added some humors to my write up to ease up your soul and not faint or commit suicide reading things I will write about you. You categorized and classify my mails every day.

 

Today is fictions, before you said it was all Njakiri, Comic, lies, and façade just to relegate all I said about you. Every Igbo person write up is lies, Njakiri, ilks on and on. Aluko,

 

Is it a Fiction that your dad was wanted for SEDITION by Akintola? If not why did he run to Mid-West and Eastern Region?

 

Is it a fiction that Igbo’s saved your dad from been killed by Akintola Killers for SEDITIOUS Act that ignited the WETTIE? If not why did he run to Mid-West and Eastern Region?

Are you older than me? Why do you think you know Nigeria History more than I do when I was already in Class One in 1967? My mother was a Historian and older than you father, so what make you think you will know History more than me?

 

My immediate sister got her Teachers Grade II from Sacred Heart Teachers Training College, Ubiaja, NCE and Degree in History, so what make you think you know Nigeria History more than I do?

 

My dad was older than Zik and Awo. I lived to see his uncle who died in 1978. Uncle Chukwukere knows about Amalgamation and when Asoro and Overanmen were taken to Calabar in 1897.

 

I say what made educated idiot like you to think that you know about Nigeria History more than me?  A fool like you, just because your dad was a Professor made you to think that you know more than everybody.  

 

Aluko, is it a Fiction that your brother was caught with stolen N800 Million Nigeria money? Was he exonerated? If so, which Court tried and cleared him? Don’t tell me that KUKAH panel did because that was a Political Panel. He never took the witness stand in court to take hard ass whipping interrogations from experienced Lawyers.

 

Is it a Fiction that you attended UNIFE where Mama was the Registrar and Papa was the HOD? That is a pure conflict of interest. Their presences influenced and sway fellow Teachers in giving your ass jara grades to make them proud.

 

Why UNIFE? Tell me why UNIFE where Mama was the Registrar and Papa was the HOD?

 

Why didn’t you go to UNN, UI, UNILAG, ABU or UNIBEN? Are you telling us that UNIFE was the best place to do your Major? Do you think you would have made 1^st Class if it has been other schools?

 

Bring your stupid answer sheets and let me pay independent Examiners to re-grade your question papers because I don’t feel comfortable with your so called Mama and Papa First Class and let’s see if you will get 2^nd Class Lower or 3^rd Class.

 

Anybody who went through University education knows the functions of a REGISTRAR with regards to recording and documenting Students Grades. They can add, delete and upgrade bad grades in Students transcripts. Aluko, something is fishy with your school at UNIFE.

 

I would have valued a 3^rd Class or 4^th Class degree from you if you have earned it at Gombe State University or Zamfara State University where Mama was not the Registrar and Papa was not the HOD?

 

Aluko, but why is that you must always get a little push up from your mama and papa to square up with your mates?

 

Aluko, is it a fiction that your dad was the Economic Advisor to Awo, Ajasin and Abacha? And what were the results or accomplishment from all these positions?

 

Is it a fiction that your dad was working with a Butcher and murderer called Abacha who was killing his people and refused to leave when he was called upon by his people to leave?

 

Aluko is it a fiction that your dad was so determine to have a State for EKITI people that he blackmailed and railroad AFENIFERE, Ngbati MD/CEO Bankers and recommended to Abacha to throw them in jail without trial?  

 

Is it a fiction that your dad recommended 20 pounds for Igbo’s coming back from war, close Nsukka, ban Okrika, Stockfish and Hollandis where he knew Igbo’s has an edge over Ngbati people?

 

ALUKO, why did you join NADECO? You joined NADECO not because you like their activities but to save your dad’s head and acted as a double Agent for Abacha. Your presence or member of NADECO deflated the anger of Ngbati people on your father. Simply put it, you joined NADECO to save your dad’s head and family reputation.

 

Your dad serving Abacha when he locked up OBJ was one of the reasons OBJ targeted your brother and insulted your father.

 

No Igbo person is as good as any other Nigerians that was why you frustrated and failed a lot of them with bad grades and gave “A” to those you like just for coming to your class.

 

Is it not the hate that consumed your heart that made you to look down on Nwanna Obi’s articles? By your own admission, he attended Washington University, St. Louis. Just that you know, I lived in St. Louis, Missouri while working for Ford Motor. Washington University is one of the Ivy League Schools in America. Nwanna Obi didn’t get dashed Grades of A from you.

 

You are a disgrace to Academic communities.

 

Born to his cousin General Alabi-Isama of fame  - a completely unhinged fiction writer who nevertheless peppers his long screen brain dumps with insane viciously-animalistic jokes to invoke cowardly deniability!

Lookia Aluko, you know that I am language challenged. Please try to write simple English so that I can understand and respond accordingly.

 

All these twist and join Oyibo from Mama and Papa given degree from UNIFE is confusing to me.

 

Now, how many times am I going to talk about Chief Isama to you and NOWA? You are still not convinced that I know him or he is from the same town with my mother ehn? If so ask Tony Ishiekwene and Tony Eluemunor. Tony Eluemunor and my mother are from the same Clan in Utagba-Uno.

 

My mother’s younger brother is the richest man in Ukwuani. I am telling you this for the first time. Again, ask Tony Ishiekwene and Tony Eluemunor if you are in doubt. Or ask any Ukwuani person you know.

 

Why mentioning Chief Isama name? What is so special about him? He fought the war, so what?

 

By the way, Ukwuani people don’t bear ISAMA. They bear ISAGBA & ISAKPA. Aniochas bear ASAGBA. Chief Isama changed his own to ISAMA to reflect Ngbati name when he was switching sides during the 60’s Military crisis.

 

These are the Military men from the same town like Chief Isama and my mother.

 

Retired Admiral Onah,he got me VISA to come to USA.

  

Lt. Colonel Ogbodo  

 

Lt. Colonel Agam deceased  

 

Lt. Colonel Ogwe deceased  

 

Lt. Colonel Kelikume deceased  

 

Other young Ukwuani Army Officers are from the same town with my mother. Apart from Retired Admiral Onah, others fought the war on the Nigeria side.I know all of them very well and their war story is totally different from that of Chief Isama writing from Ngbati views.

 

Chief Isama is your hero because he wrote negative things about Igbo’s and OBJ. Igbo’s and OBJ are your freaky nightmare. OBJ insulted your father and destroyed your brother’s Political career for stealing Nigeria money. You just can’t take it.

 

What else buster? I met Chief Isama in Houston, Texas in the late 80’s at his office in downtown Houston and at McGregor Hotel, Asaba on January 8, 2014 when I went to renew my Passport in the company of four Ukwuani guys and we had a heated argument about his book and the war.

 

The Ukwuani guys were giving me eye signal to stop when many people started gathering to listen to the argument especially when I asked him to show me where they have Hausa Quarter at Asaba and how he minimized the killing of Asaba people and Igbo civilians during the war. We were there for about two hours.   

 

What else fool? Chief Isama daughter had her marriage with a British man and ordered to perform the wedding at Utagba-Uno instead of Lagos or London. This is to bring himself closer home to the Ukwuanis. I didn’t go. His house and my maternal home are just like Oyingbo and Iddo. He passes through my maternal family home to go to his house. So, why mentioning his name?

 

Some friends want me to meet Chief Isama first son by name Tokunbo. He is a Lawyer and I refused. So what the hell are you talking about? Tokunbo responded to my mails directed to his father in Ukwuani forum. He was cordial. I don’t want to meet him because he will not like what I will say.

 

ALUKO, you cannot spin your way out of you evil. You cannot run your mouth and talk your way out of your family evil and ungratefulness. Your father was among those that caused the war that consumed million Igbo people’s lives.

 

You are angry because I keep saying it. I don’t want a damn thing from you. You want the truth about the war and I am telling you the truth now.

 

ALUKO FAMILY HAVE THE BLOODS OF IGBO CHILDREN, WOMEN, OLD AND DISABLE IN THEIR HANDS.

 

The ALUKOS have MARK OF CAIN on their foreheads. Anybody that answers the name ALUKO has to be questioned whether he/she is from EKITI. And if he/she is from EKITI, he/she will be treated as a pariah.

 

Finally, before I believe and regard your Degree, you must show us your Test Answer Sheets from UNIFE because I am still nervous with this your Mama and Papa Degree. It is only the Ngbati people and Igbo haters that will regard your 1^st Class, but not me. You must show us the Answer sheets of Ngbati and Igbo students in your classes at Howard.

 

You must also tell us who were your male friends and Girl Friends at UNIFE and what was her/their Major (s). If she was Economic Major and she graduated with anything more than 3^rd or 4^th Class, you must be questioned and investigated because you may have given them/her your Papa Test Questions for GUITAR.

 

You are Evil, wicked with rotten Soul that dashes Grades like Hausa/Fulani’s Jackass, Jackboot Soldiers dashes Ranks and Promotions based on who they like and hate without regards to merits.

 

I am coming with more that will send you packing out of Yahoo Forums.Liar, Lia will not cut it for me. I am determined to deal squarely with you and your stooges.

 

AZI GBAKWA GI, ONYE ARURA, ONYE AHUHU. EGBULE GBU KWAGI.

 

TUFIAKWA, OZU

 

NA ME AND YOU.

 

And with this, I rest my case.

 

Chukwuma "Vicious Animal" Agwunobi

Seattle, Washington U. S. A

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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

Aduba:

Buska must have done so - contacted the General - through the abundance of caution.  There are too many impressionable Nigerian forum members, who just JUMP at any news, and confuse themselves with names and events profusely.  

Imagine some around here, of Ezeana Igirigi's ilk, who take "Smart" "Chukwuka" Agwunobi as a Nigerian "historian", a Forrest Gump of sorts, a toy water-providing boy "soldier" to his cousin General Alabi-Isama of fame  - a completely unhinged fiction writer who nevertheless peppers his long screen brain dumps with insane viciously-animalistic jokes to invoke cowardly deniability!

Lord have mercy!

And there you have it.  I believe that I have fully explained why the Good General's sleep needed to be bothered by Buska, who by the way has DIRECT access to him, otherwise the General would have written the denial himself..

Bolaji Aluko

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 1:47 AM, Baduba54 <badu...@aol.com> wrote:

As confirmed by Buska himself in a quick call to the General himself - for which we should all express gratitude

Please why was a call to the peacefully retired general necessary? His name was not mentioned in the essay.

Aduba

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On Jun 22, 2016, at 11:16 AM, Asagwara, Ken (EAL) <Ken.As...@gov.mb.ca> wrote:

Dr. Adeniran Adeboye:

 

You stated inter alia:

“However your initial post went waaaaay beyond that: its message was a thinly veiled, but clearly exuberant, triumphalism because you saw the letter as a Yoruba leader's confirmation of the repeated assertions by many Igbo that all is not well in the Yoruba homeland.”

 

Sir; am at a loss to understand how a very knowledgeable and exposed man like you understood my simple prologue to Adebayo Adeyinka’s letter that made its rounds in the Nigerian internet forums to mean as you stated, especially, the underlined. Pray; what is there to be “exuberant” or “triumphalism” about? The contents of that letter in regards to oversight in addressing socio-economic underdevelopment in the SW cuts across Nigeria’s ethnic nationalities; in fact, more so, in Igbo land. That letter was forwarded to Igbo Diaspora internet forums with underlining of the huge investments Igbo business entrepreneurs have outside Igbo land, e.g., Lagos and Abuja; a situation that is inimical to economic growth in Igbo land of which many of us, Igbo have continued to call on our business entrepreneurs to divest in those places and take their investments back to Ala-Igbo. Every thinking person would know that in the event that Nigeria breaks up, especially, if violent, the Igbo ethnic nation of Nigeria may be worse off for it due to their huge investments outside Igbo land. So, what is there to feel “exuberant’’ or “triumphalism” when Igbo businesses that should be in Igbo land are situated outside Igbo land at our peoples economic expense? My dear doctor Adeboye even you, read my prologue from a mindset. And for that, you concluded very wrongly. How unfortunate!

 

As for, “Americans say, "the game is not over until the fat lady sings", and even though I don't know whether or not you are fat, I strongly believe that you are not a lady.”

Well, I take it for the pun you meant it to be albeit made in bad taste. I believe you have seen my photo. But if you say you have not, ask Bolaji Aluko for it. He is good in searching out my photo and circulating it in the Nigerian internet forums.

 

Cheers.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

 

 

From: naija...@googlegroups.com [mailto:naija...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Adeniran Adeboye

Sent: June-22-16 7:20 AM
To: africanw...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

 

 

Mazi Ken,

 

1. I am not aware of any on Yoruba who is rejecting Adebayo Adeyinka off hand or his message or both.

2. It is even possible ordinarily tooverlook your commutation of the writer's first and last names and thus mistake him for the retired general. However your initial post went waaaaay beyond that: its message was a thinly veiled, but clearly exuberant, triumphalism because you saw the letter as a Yoruba leader's confirmation of the repeated assertions by many Igbo that all is not well in the Yoruba homeland.

3. The good news is that we, the Yoruba, are always aware of where the shoes pinch and hence we take the letter as a good faith "gbeere ipako" as Prof Aluko has written.

4. Americans say, "the game is not over until the fat lady sings", and even though I don't know whether or not you are fat, I strongly believe that you are not a lady.😀

 

Cheers,

 

Adeniran Adeboye

Sent from my iPhone

 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 21, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Asagwara, Ken (EAL) <Ken.As...@gov.mb.ca> wrote:

Bolaji Aluko:

 

May you know this much. Whatever weapons you fashioned against me in any form or shape will be yours to reap, Amen. So your prayer in whatever negative intent is back to sender, Amen.

 

While you and your gang have been shitting, on yourselves about who is and not your Yoruba leader, those who see some well meant intent in the man’s letter are digesting it. That they are not shouting themselves hoarse like you and gang means they understand what you failed to understand. Were I a Yoruba son, I would be pleased with Adebayo Adeyinka’s letter written with the best of intent and he did not insult anyone from the way I see it.

 

A beg, move on, jare.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

 

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Sent: June-21-16 4:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

 

 

Ken Asagwara:

 

I read your "Amen" to my first-line prayer for you and your progeny...that is good.

 

Moving on....

 

I will end your twisting on this subject, because your bia-bia ain't looking good on this one...

 

So it looks as if you anointed "Adebayo Adeyinka" as a "Yoruba leader" because of his syntactic efficiency and your apparent thinking that he destroyed Yoruba ethnic pride with his write-up?  Those are rich lies.

 

And have you read any Yoruba fellow criticize Adebayo Adeyinka yet?  I have not...you were the first one jumping up and down - typical for your ilk - and that is why your bia-bia head is being used to break a coconut by a few of us......

 

But your head is so hard and stubborn that the coconut has been broken, but you are putting your head forward for another coconut....

 

And there you have it....moving on...

 

 

Bolaji Aluko

 

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Asagwara, Ken (EAL) <Ken.As...@gov.mb.ca> wrote:

Bolaji Aluko:

 

Like I already stated, you know and I know why you and your gang are having hiccups on account of Adebayo Adeyinka’s public letter to Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu. You read what displeased you and seem to hurt your ethnic pride. That can be understood. Go take issues with him, if you and your cohorts disagree with his reasoned call on a Yoruba leader he believed can rise to the occasion and perhaps, make a difference.

 

Go re-read the origin of, “A Yoruba leader who knows and understands it better than you is calling Bola Ahmed Tinubu, the Asiwaju of Yoruba land to come to the rescue” which you excerpted. If you do so with an open mind instead of warped mind, you will see that it was addressed to Michael Idowu who earlier took me to task for saying that Bolaji Ahmed Tinubu is a Yoruba leader.

 

In my book, Adebayo Adeyinka stands as a leader over and above Michael Idowu. And if without unnecessary subjectivity and dispassionate emotions you analyze Adebayo Adeyinka’s letter addressed to Tinubu, he wrote the way and manner a leader and perhaps also, an elder, would.  He did not claim to be retired General Robert Adeyinka Adebayo. There is nowhere I or any one that read him would mistake him for the retired General. Your apparent angst is that in the context and contents of his letter that I called him Yoruba leader. Well; Bolaji Aluko and gang, please deal with the man’s message that apparently ruffled your ego and ignore whether he is your leader or not. It’s so amazing what narcissism and ego can do to some folks.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

 

 

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Sent: June-21-16 3:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

 

 

 

Ken Asagwara:

 

Call me "foolish" all you want, and I pray that you become as foolish as I am when you grow up, with your full bia-bia........

 

Moving on.....

 

I thought for once that you would honest.  So when you wrote:

 

QUOTE

 

A Yoruba leader who knows and understands it better than you is calling Bola Ahmed Tinubu, the Asiwaju of Yoruba land to come to the rescue.

 

UNQUOTE

 

"Yoruba leader?"  So anybody who writes an "open letter" to BAT is a "Yoruba leader" in your bearded vocabulary?

 

Do you know this "Adebayo Adeyinka" as different from the "Yoruba Leader" General Adeyinka Adebayo that everybody knows?  Even your own intervention is what slightly confused Afis, why he appended General, and exchanged the first and second names.

 

On a matter of simple honesty, you fail.  Imagine bigger issues?

 

Res Ipas Loquitur...

 

 

Bolaji Aluko

Having a belly laugh

 

PS:  You did not even understand my translation of "So Yoruba ni gbere ipako."  Read it more carefully to understand that I was not criticizing the piece.

 

 

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 8:47 PM, Asagwara, Ken (EAL) <Ken.As...@gov.mb.ca> wrote:

Bolaji Aluko:

 

For the first time since encountering you in the Nigerian internet forums, I now call you a foolish person. Reason being that I did not anywhere mention the name of retired General Robert Adeyinka Adebayo as the author of the letter to Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu. The name of the author is clearly stated by himself as Adebayo Adeyinka.

 

From time immemorial, I have known that the onetime military governor of the old western region is Robert Adeyinka Adebayo and not Adebayo Adeyinka. Bolaji Aluko, can you see the difference? And why are you guys twisting yourselves into pretzels and dried crayfish looking for someone to find fault with in what the man, fellow Yoruba wrote? I know most of you Yoruba Nigerians do not enjoy reading anything negative about your ethnic nation. I can understand because I too, do not enjoy reading anything negative written or posted about my Igbo ethnic nation by fellow Igbo. And when such happens, I do not go about looking for outsiders to blame for what I read. I take on the Igbo author directly, if the need be. And in doing so, I will present a redirect to him/her where things stated are not really correct. That is what you and any other having hiccups over Adebayo Adeyinka’s public letter to Bola Ahmed Tinubu should do. That much I expected from an educated man like you instead of trying to blame me for what you read concerning the Yoruba that apparently displeased you. What you and that Yoruba master idiot and clown Baba Were Dunwo Afis Odidere are trying to do is akin to the chicken cooking in the pot bending its neck for the pot instead of the knife that sliced its throat. Please carry go.

 

As you are wont to say, there you have it.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

 

 

From: Mobolaji Aluko [mailto:alu...@gmail.com]

Sent: June-21-16 2:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

Aduba:

Buska must have done so - contacted the General - through the abundance of caution.  There are too many impressionable Nigerian forum members, who just JUMP at any news, and confuse themselves with names and events profusely.  

Imagine some around here, of Ezeana Igirigi's ilk, who take "Smart" "Chukwuka" Agwunobi as a Nigerian "historian", a Forrest Gump of sorts, a toy water-providing boy "soldier" to his cousin General Alabi-Isama of fame  - a completely unhinged fiction writer who nevertheless peppers his long screen brain dumps with insane viciously-animalistic jokes to invoke cowardly deniability!

Lord have mercy!

And there you have it.  I believe that I have fully explained why the Good General's sleep needed to be bothered by Buska, who by the way has DIRECT access to him, otherwise the General would have written the denial himself..

Bolaji Aluko

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 1:47 AM, Baduba54 <badu...@aol.com> wrote:

As confirmed by Buska himself in a quick call to the General himself - for which we should all express gratitude

Please why was a call to the peacefully retired general necessary? His name was not mentioned in the essay.

Aduba

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On Jun 22, 2016, at 2:31 AM, 'Chukwuemeka Okala' via NaijaEvent <naija...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

"...deliberate falsehood can only be malicious."  -  Adeniran Adebayo

Comment:

Prof. Adeniran Adebayo,

I agree with you that "deliberate falsehood can only be malicious" with a caveat that it's coming from a person of a sound mind. But what you have just read below is a package from a madman. At the peak of his insanity, he comes to the listserv and releases a huge pile of grossly antithetical rubbish in the name of a write-up and disappears - a piece that can only be written by a madman. He reappears about the same time the next day to do the same thing. Our friend, Chukwuma Agwunobi is in a very terrible mental state. Please pray for him! 

Emeka Reuben Okala

London, UK

"Faith [Religion] and reason are not necessarily opposed. But when reason won't take you another step, faith keeps on going because it connects you to God."   

 

 

 

On Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 0:31, afis 'Deinde <odide...@gmail.com> wrote:

Chukwuma you dey craze sef.

But you are funny egbue Ewu!

Shikena 

Afis

“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

Sent from my iPhone

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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

Dear Prof and Gentle people: It has been confirmed that the "writer" is someone other than the Gen (Rtd.) Adeyinka Adebayo, unless folks just want to be mischievous, or engage in general "yabbies" without any meaningful thing to add to the discussion.  Thank you.

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On Jun 22, 2016, at 12:55 PM, Asagwara, Ken (EAL) <Ken.As...@gov.mb.ca> wrote:

The Imperialist:

 

Bro, you got it all wrong. It is not a matter of “superstition”. Bolaji Aluko is an evil-minded person given to ill-wills against disagreeing fellows, especially, if an Igbo person. Have you not been reading him in the forums. He claims to be a Christian yet, before you know it, he invokes negative wishes contrary to what is expected of a Christian and child of God. I sent back to him whatever it was that came out of his evil mind and heart through the same means he invoked it. It is not a matter of “believe anyone can easily attack or hurt you online”. It is a matter of spoken words of ill-will which invariably, go back to the source. Hope you have understood.

 

Cheers.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

 

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Dr Asagrawa,

 

With your donkey years in the West and several years of training so you are as superstitious as an average black African or a Nigerian on the street ?

 

So you believe anyone can easily attack or hurt you online ? 😀😀 😀😀😅😉

Sent from my iPhone

On 21 Jun 2016, at 10:16 PM, 'Asagwara, Ken (EAL)' Ken.As...@gov.mb.ca [AfricanWorldForum] <AfricanW...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Bolaji Aluko: 

May you know this much. Whatever weapons you fashioned against me in any form or shape will be yours to reap, Amen. So your prayer in whatever negative intent is back to sender, Amen.  

While you and your gang have been shitting, on yourselves about who is and not your Yoruba leader, those who see some well meant intent in the man’s letter are digesting it. That they are not shouting themselves hoarse like you and gang means they understand what you failed to understand. Were I a Yoruba son, I would be pleased with Adebayo Adeyinka’s letter written with the best of intent and he did not insult anyone from the way I see it.  

A beg, move on, jare. 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

 

From: Mobolaji Aluko [mailto:alu...@gmail.com]

Sent: June-21-16 4:00 PM
To: Asagwara, Ken (EAL)
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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

 

Ken Asagwara: 

I read your "Amen" to my first-line prayer for you and your progeny...that is good. 

Moving on.... 

I will end your twisting on this subject, because your bia-bia ain't looking good on this one... 

So it looks as if you anointed "Adebayo Adeyinka" as a "Yoruba leader" because of his syntactic efficiency and your apparent thinking that he destroyed Yoruba ethnic pride with his write-up?  Those are rich lies. 

And have you read any Yoruba fellow criticize Adebayo Adeyinka yet?  I have not...you were the first one jumping up and down - typical for your ilk - and that is why your bia-bia head is being used to break a coconut by a few of us...... 

But your head is so hard and stubborn that the coconut has been broken, but you are putting your head forward for another coconut.... 

And there you have it....moving on... 

Bolaji Aluko

 

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Asagwara, Ken (EAL) <Ken.As...@gov.mb.ca> wrote:

Bolaji Aluko: 

Like I already stated, you know and I know why you and your gang are having hiccups on account of Adebayo Adeyinka’s public letter to Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu. You read what displeased you and seem to hurt your ethnic pride. That can be understood. Go take issues with him, if you and your cohorts disagree with his reasoned call on a Yoruba leader he believed can rise to the occasion and perhaps, make a difference.  

Go re-read the origin of, “A Yoruba leader who knows and understands it better than you is calling Bola Ahmed Tinubu, the Asiwaju of Yoruba land to come to the rescue” which you excerpted. If you do so with an open mind instead of warped mind, you will see that it was addressed to Michael Idowu who earlier took me to task for saying that Bolaji Ahmed Tinubu is a Yoruba leader.  

In my book, Adebayo Adeyinka stands as a leader over and above Michael Idowu. And if without unnecessary subjectivity and dispassionate emotions you analyze Adebayo Adeyinka’s letter addressed to Tinubu, he wrote the way and manner a leader and perhaps also, an elder, would.  He did not claim to be retired General Robert Adeyinka Adebayo. There is nowhere I or any one that read him would mistake him for the retired General. Your apparent angst is that in the context and contents of his letter that I called him Yoruba leader. Well; Bolaji Aluko and gang, please deal with the man’s message that apparently ruffled your ego and ignore whether he is your leader or not. It’s so amazing what narcissism and ego can do to some folks. 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

 

 

From: Mobolaji Aluko [mailto:alu...@gmail.com]
Sent: June-21-16 3:06 PM
To: Asagwara, Ken (EAL)
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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

 

 

 

Ken Asagwara:

 

Call me "foolish" all you want, and I pray that you become as foolish as I am when you grow up, with your full bia-bia........

 

Moving on.....

 

I thought for once that you would honest.  So when you wrote:

 

QUOTE

 

A Yoruba leader who knows and understands it better than you is calling Bola Ahmed Tinubu, the Asiwaju of Yoruba land to come to the rescue.

 

UNQUOTE

 

"Yoruba leader?"  So anybody who writes an "open letter" to BAT is a "Yoruba leader" in your bearded vocabulary?

 

Do you know this "Adebayo Adeyinka" as different from the "Yoruba Leader" General Adeyinka Adebayo that everybody knows?  Even your own intervention is what slightly confused Afis, why he appended General, and exchanged the first and second names.

 

On a matter of simple honesty, you fail.  Imagine bigger issues?

 

Res Ipas Loquitur...

 

 

Bolaji Aluko

Having a belly laugh

 

PS:  You did not even understand my translation of "So Yoruba ni gbere ipako."  Read it more carefully to understand that I was not criticizing the piece.

 

 

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 8:47 PM, Asagwara, Ken (EAL) <Ken.As...@gov.mb.ca> wrote:

Bolaji Aluko:

 

For the first time since encountering you in the Nigerian internet forums, I now call you a foolish person. Reason being that I did not anywhere mention the name of retired General Robert Adeyinka Adebayo as the author of the letter to Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu. The name of the author is clearly stated by himself as Adebayo Adeyinka.

 

From time immemorial, I have known that the onetime military governor of the old western region is Robert Adeyinka Adebayo and not Adebayo Adeyinka. Bolaji Aluko, can you see the difference? And why are you guys twisting yourselves into pretzels and dried crayfish looking for someone to find fault with in what the man, fellow Yoruba wrote? I know most of you Yoruba Nigerians do not enjoy reading anything negative about your ethnic nation. I can understand because I too, do not enjoy reading anything negative written or posted about my Igbo ethnic nation by fellow Igbo. And when such happens, I do not go about looking for outsiders to blame for what I read. I take on the Igbo author directly, if the need be. And in doing so, I will present a redirect to him/her where things stated are not really correct. That is what you and any other having hiccups over Adebayo Adeyinka’s public letter to Bola Ahmed Tinubu should do. That much I expected from an educated man like you instead of trying to blame me for what you read concerning the Yoruba that apparently displeased you. What you and that Yoruba master idiot and clown Baba Were Dunwo Afis Odidere are trying to do is akin to the chicken cooking in the pot bending its neck for the pot instead of the knife that sliced its throat. Please carry go.

 

As you are wont to say, there you have it.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

 

 

From: Mobolaji Aluko [mailto:alu...@gmail.com]

Sent: June-21-16 2:15 PM
To: Adeniran Adeboye
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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Letter to Tinubu: The rise and fall of Yoruba Nation, By Adebayo Adeyinka

 

 

Dokita:

 

As confirmed by Buska himself in a quick call to the General himself - for which we should all express gratitude - this open letter could simply NOT simply have been written by

the "General Adeyinka Adebayo", but one "Adebayo Adeyinka", who "so Yoruba ni gbere ipako" (calling the Yoruba to its senses) more that the protagonist Tinubu.   It would just have been simply aculturally inappropriate  otherwise.

 

I would have been surprised if "Asagwara Kenneth" wrote it with a pen name  - or knows who wrote it - but I am not surprised that Ken Asagwara commented as if the General did, jumping up and down as he did.

 

And there you have it.  Another mystery author solved.

 

 

Bolaji Aluko

Having a belly laugh

  

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 5:08 AM, Adeniran Adeboye <aade...@icloud.com> wrote:

 

Dear Brother Afis,

 

The General's name is Adeyinka Adebayo, not Adebayo Adeyinka. All the time I have read the general's public messages, he had signed off as "Gen.(rtd) Adeyinka Adebayo". Thus this writer is probably not the general.

 

Cheers,

 

Adeniran Adeboye

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