Passwords For Couples
Maximilian Lozano
currently I am using the personal subscription.
This is okay for me. My wife now is interested in 1pw as well.
Another personal subscription? Nonsense and too expensive. Families subscription? Too much and as such also too expensive.
1Password Families is less expensive than two individual memberships. It also gives you the ability to include a few guests at no additional cost, e.g. if you have family visiting who you want to share the WiFi password with. :)
I have Single and my wife uses her browser password manager because she has relatively few occasions to sign in to sites on her iPhone, so she will typically use "my" Single on our shared computer. I seems to me it would be mutually beneficial to capture people like me with a Couples membership option.
For your use case... is there any data that you do not wish to share with each other? If not, you're more than welcome to share an individual membership. If each of you do need to have some data be private then 1Password Families would be the way forward. We'd be happy to discuss in more depth if you'd like. I'd encourage you to reach out to our team at sup...@1password.com outlining your needs and we can help point you in the right direction. :)
We can certainly "share an individual membership" as we have no need for private passwords. I did not know I could do that. The only device that would be added to my single membership would be her iPhone. Current device list is my iPhone, iMac and iPad, all working now. Is the process embarrassingly simple so that you can Reply here, or should I contact sup...@1password.com?
Same with me. Actually I use my individual account on the devices of my wife, daughter and son. They are not able (no offense) to use such a password manager on their own, and I don't want them to use their browsers to save passwords. We are fine with this. Maybe we have to think about a family account when kids are old enough to have their own passwords. ;)
I recently signed on for a single 1PW account after years with Keepass. I'm liking it so far but am now considering options for my husband. A couples membership would be ideal as all he requires is a simple subset of my passwords so he can access things like utility companies or bank accounts in the event of something happening to me (I manage all our bills and accounts). Honestly, I would be very surprised if he even looked at the program any more than once per year, his mobile phone and internet usage is minimal. We are a senior couple with no other family members in our household so two "seats" are all that is required.
So I would like to ask for a couples option too. A Families account is pricey for the use we would make of it, even more so with the added currency exchange rates involved when purchasing. Please consider this.
I could give him access to my account and vault, we have no secrets, but I think he would find the number of sites and entries overwhelming. So I'll probably stick with a small Keepass file for hubby to use but it does mean having to update it every time I make any changes.
@VelvetGlove, note that you can easily create (and switch among) multiple vaults to bring some order and organization to the vast number of secure info entries that tend to collect in a 1Password account.
Oh, and you can also use identifying prefixes for each 1P entry so that they still sort alpha, but are grouped by prefix. This works to separate entries into "his" and "hers" at the cost of some extra maintenance if and when entry info is changed.
I would be glad to pass this feedback along to the team. Also, I would like to reach out to you via email to ask a few questions if that is okay. Please stay on the lookout for an email from 1Password Support. :)
Teaching him to switch between vaults is a good idea as the other comment hints. Another idea is to consider enabling only the vaults with the passwords that needs access to. It's an option on the mobile apps, at least on Android.
I also would suggest to use at least 2 different vaults - 1 for you and 1 for your husband. On his mobile device you can choose which one the app should show. That should work for you both with your individual subscription. No need to use a family or couple subscription. ;)
@DenalB , thank you. Yes, I've had a quick look and a 2nd vault certainly does look like the best solution. I think it will suit us both - convenient for me to manage and a simplified set of logins for hubby for when he needs them.
Question: does the membership with 1PW8 or 1PW7 function the same like stand alone licensed 1PW7? I keep reading about signing in with master password and master key or something to that effect. Does that mean you need to sign on to 1PW site through your browser (Safari) in order to use 1PW app. Or, just simply activate 1PW app with your master password as usual?
I've switched to 1Password for families, and just paid my first annual fee which came to be $33 after $15 worth of discounts. That price is OK, but still a little high for what I am getting vs traditional 1Password apps for my use case.
I've tried hard for years to get my parents on board with 1Password, but they just will not do it. I don't have any siblings who I need to share passwords with. It's just me and my wife. But I'm paying for 5 accounts (and actually have 7, thanks to the early adopter bonus). Next year, it will be $48, which in AUD is currently $63.
That's a pretty high annual fee essentially just so two people can more easily make use of multiple vaults for organisation, without having to deal with manual sync configuration for every new vault and on every device we each use.
The whole point of 1Password for Families and Teams is sharing and collaboration. For that you generally need at least one additional person to share and collaborate with. So I think that should be what the minimum buy-in price is based on. $2 per month (paid annually) for 1Password for Couples, with each additional person costing $1 per month.
That's a price I would happily pay. Currently, I feel like I am subsidising bigger families who actually have 7 people to share passwords with, and I will probably never need that many, and certainly won't need more than 2 for the next decade at least.
Hey @mrmachine! Thanks so much for the feedback on our pricing model. A 1Password Couples or Individuals plan is something we're keeping in mind. We had a lot of requests for using 1Password in a family environment, specifically with more than two members, and sharing things among the members, and we built the initial release of Families based on the need we saw. I think it's a really fantastic start. Of course, there are areas we can improve and other demographics we can reach out to. We don't discuss future plans publicly since there are too many factors that can change, but we are considering something more basic for smaller families in the future. :)
As far as pricing in general, Families is still a great value. Right now, the apps are around $90 for every platform with Pro and Premium features on the mobile ones. We wanted to make it easier for people to access 1Password wherever they are, so we built 1Password Families and 1Password for Teams. The really cool thing is you get access in any modern browser, so you don't need the apps to get a password if you're on the road or don't have 1Password installed. You can also install the app on as many devices as you and the rest of your family own. Just getting the apps means you each need to purchase a license, which isn't realistic for everyone. I think we're moving in the right direction, and I'm hoping the next few months give us a chance to explore different territory as well. :+1:
b) Cognitively much simpler to understand because everything is self contained. It really is just "one" password (and an access key). You don't need to rely on 3rd party services to sync, or mentally deal with the fact that unlocking a "primary" vault unlocks secondary vaults, but needing to know the secondary vault's password to unlock the first time.
c) Web access is a major improvement for people on Linux and probably Windows, but is not really providing much for every day Mac users. Well, it's not as good as a native app, but it makes 1Password actually usable cross platform. Linux users were previously basically 3rd world below the poverty line, and now they are a developing nation but still not on par with native clients.
1) Being on Mac, the only reason I ever use the web UI is to manage permissions and create vaults (because it's the only place I can do that). The access key + password requirement is not convenient enough to enable "access anywhere" e.g. if you are without your phone or computer and need something from 1Password. That's totally OK with me. I'm happy to use a web UI for that stuff if it saves you having to implement it 3 times over in native apps. But as a Mac user I don't want to be paying a premium for the web UI because I'll honestly rarely use it to actually access passwords. And if I were a Linux or even Windows user, I'd just be annoyed that the native clients don't exist or are not up to scratch, and that I am forced to pay the same premium as everyone else but forced to use a nice but still inferior web UI. The web UI is something you need to fill in the gaps, not something that I need to pay a premium for.
2) Pricing. This is the main sticking point. Sure, you can add up the cost of all your pro apps on all your platforms and claim that $60/year is good value. But I haven't had to buy a new 1Password license every year, let alone 2 or 3 of them for different platforms. And unless 1Password for families is going to be introducing major compelling new features every year, I think $60 is quite expensive, especially for small families (of 2 people). I like that you can add extra people for $1 per month. That's a good price. But why do small families have to pay 250% more than the standard per user cost ($5 for 5 users, $1 per additional user). That's not fair. I don't want reduced functionality as a small family. I just want fewer users, because I am not going to need more than 2 users for at least 10 years.