1985 north Tanami earthquake hunt

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Tamarah King

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Jul 9, 2021, 10:57:49 AM7/9/21
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Hi all,

 

I’ve been revisiting deep earthquakes in the GA catalogue, and I’ve noticed a Mb 5.2 earthquake in the northern Tanami in 1985 with a 33km depth (https://earthquakes.ga.gov.au/event/ga1985rvmtru).

 

I’ve looked through literature but can’t find any mention of this earthquake. I checked the annual BMR reports (https://aees.org.au/annual-seismological-reports/) and it seems to be missing from the 1985 report. I checked the maps and tables from the 1984, 1986 and 1987 reports and it’s also not there.

 

Does anybody know anything about how this earthquake ended up in the catalogue but seems absent from the literature? I’d guess the GA record is incorrect? If anybody does remember this event, I’m looking for some sense of how reliable the 33km depth is, whether that event was confidently in the 30km range rather than the 0-10 km range.

 

Also just a note, I often find those annual BMR/GA/Mundaring seismicity reports incredibly useful. Huge thanks to anybody who spent time putting them together over the years.

 

Many thanks,

Tamarah

Paul Somerville

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Jul 9, 2021, 11:25:24 AM7/9/21
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Tamarah

It is in the NSHA18 catalog, Sept 10, 1985

It is an ISC hypocentre.  In the ISC catalog the depth of 33 km is a default depth, not a measured depth

1.99E+11 ISC 1985 9 10 11 57 3 130.24 -18.05 33 5.07 MW 5.2 mb 5.2 5.07 nan nan nan

Paul Somerville

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Tamarah King

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Jul 9, 2021, 12:23:14 PM7/9/21
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Hi Paul,

 

Thanks for that, I hadn’t thought to cross-check with the agency listed in the NSHA18 (the event is in both GA online and NSHA18 catalogues).

 

I’ve just searched the ISC catalogue (http://www.isc.ac.uk/iscbulletin/search/catalogue/interactive/) and it seems the only event coincident with that location (see map below) occurred in 2010 (http://www.isc.ac.uk/cgi-bin/web-db-v4?event_id=17311501&out_format=IMS1.0&request=COMPREHENSIVE). There’s no 2010 event in the GA or USGS catalogues for that location, and the 2010 ISC event has no magnitude but does have a depth of 22.7 km. There’s no 10/9/1985 events in the ISC catalogue for northern Australia that I can find.

 

 

 

I don’t really need to go too far down this rabbit hole, I imagine it’s a simple mistake somewhere along the line between ISC and GA. Rather odd though!

 

Tamarah

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cdncollins

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Jul 10, 2021, 5:00:01 AM7/10/21
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Hi Tamarah,

The event was listed in a 1999 copy of the GA catalogue that I have and the source for it is given as 'isc'.  If it was ever in the isc catalogue then as you say it's not there now. 

(I thought I may have had a rather unique explanation for this event - between 5th and 20th September 1985 we detonated 10 large shots in the NT for a seismic refraction survey across the Arunta Block. The two largest were 3 tonnes each. However they were all to the southwest, and though impressive, certainly not mag 5.2 !)

Cheers, 
Clive Collins 

Tamarah King

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Jul 15, 2021, 4:56:12 AM7/15/21
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Hi Dmitry and Col,

 

Thanks for the detailed detective work Dmitry! Also thanks to Kevin and Gary who got in touch with similar hypotheses about the errant New Britain earthquake popping up in the Tanami. As a non-seismologist I’ve thoroughly enjoyed watching this earthquake hunt play out, and learning how/why it was anomalous. It’s useful to know I can have a healthy amount of scepticism if I find any other earthquakes that don’t correlate across different catalogues. 

 

All the best and thanks again,

 

Tamarah

 

 

 

From: Dmitry Storchak <dmi...@isc.ac.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, 14 July 2021 6:51 PM
To: Col Lynam <col....@gmail.com>
Cc: Tamarah King <tamara...@gmail.com>; Adrienne Moseley <Adrienne...@ga.gov.au>; aee...@googlegroups.com; Gary Gibson <ga...@earthquake.net.au>
Subject: Re: Fwd: [aees] 1985 north Tanami earthquake hunt

 

Dear Colin and colleagues,

Thank you for your enquiry regarding the missing M5.2 "earthquake" in Australia. I know that you guys cherish each single one that happens in your country. Here you are up for a disappointment, I am afraid. Please see the extract from the old ISC Bulletin below :-)

OLD ISC (SHOWN HERE FOR HISTORICAL PURPOSES ONLY)

Event     515477 Northern Territory
   Date       Time        Err   RMS Latitude Longitude  Smaj  Smin  Az Depth   Err Ndef Nsta Gap  mdist  Mdist Qual   Author      OrigID
1985/09/10 11:57:03.90              -18.0500  130.2400                  33.0f             16 130  15.00 164.00 m i uk ISC        1136662

Magnitude  Err Nsta Author      OrigID
mb     5.2        1 ISC        1136662

Sta     Dist  EvAz Phase        Time      TRes  Azim AzRes   Slow   SRes Def   SNR       Amp   Per Qual Magnitude    ArrID
NAU    14.53 250.0 P        12:00:33.0     3.8                           T__                        _e            15844281
NAU    14.53       S        12:06:55.0                                   ___                        _e            15844282
YOU    22.88 138.0 P        12:02:04.0    -1.7                           T__                        __            15844283
CAN    23.94 140.0 P        12:02:16.9     0.9                           T__                        __            15844284
MAT    54.81   8.0 P        12:06:40.0     6.9                           T__                        __            15844285
 (0)
MAT    54.81   8.0 P        12:06:40.0     6.9                           T__            37.2  1.40  _e mb     5.2 15844286
GBA    60.84 298.0 P        12:08:02.0    46.2                           T__                        __            15844287
VAR    63.00 312.0 P        12:07:20.9    -9.2                           T__                        __            15844288
BNG   111.98 268.0 PKP      12:14:26.7   -69.8                           ___            45.0  1.00  ci            15844289
BNG   111.98                12:15:34.5                                   ___                        _i            15844290
BNG   111.98       pPKP     12:15:44.5    -3.4                           ___                        _i            15844291
WTS   124.48 321.0 PKP      12:15:06.0   -53.8                           ___                        _e            15844292
WTS   124.48       sPKP     12:16:19.0     5.2                           ___                        _e            15844293
ETA   131.61 326.0 PKP      12:15:25.4   -48.1                           ___                        _e            15844294
ETA   131.61 326.0 PKP      12:15:25.4   -48.1                           ___                        _e            15844295
ECP   131.94 325.0 PKP      12:15:27.5   -46.6                           ___           148.0  1.10  _e            15844296
ECP   131.94 325.0 PKP      12:15:27.5   -46.6                           ___           148.0  1.10  _e            15844297
ECB   132.07 326.0 PKP      12:15:27.1   -47.2                           ___            69.0  1.20  _e            15844298
ECB   132.07 326.0 PKP      12:15:27.1   -47.2                           ___            69.0  1.20  _e            15844299
SJG   164.41  87.0 PKP      12:16:08.0   -56.6                           ___                        _e            15844300

Sadly, this "earthquake" was inadvertently "invented" by my predecessors at the ISC. There was/is a routine operational process called "search" at the ISC where our analysts are trying to make use of all remaining station readings (reported to us) that haven't been associated to any already reported earthquakes. Sadly, on this occasion the ISC analysts of 1987 vintage did not recognise that many of the station readings of this "event" were in fact readings of secondary seismic waves from the preceding real moderate earthquake in New Britain Region that in 1987 was known to be recorded by 238 stations. Today it looks like this:

Event     515476 New Britain region
   Date       Time        Err   RMS Latitude Longitude  Smaj  Smin  Az Depth   Err Ndef Nsta Gap  mdist  Mdist Qual   Author      OrigID
1985/09/10 11:52:53.30               -6.3900  149.8100                   3.0                                       uk MOS        1136657
1985/09/10 11:52:58.10               -6.5000  149.9000                                                             uk PEK        1136659
1985/09/10 11:52:58.40               -6.4160  149.9600                  41.0             152                       uk NEIC       1136660
1985/09/10 11:53:00.70        1.150  -6.4150  150.0080   5.9   4.5  55  47.0   6.0  221  206                       ke EHB       11272949
1985/09/10 11:52:58.74   0.46 1.911  -6.3243  149.9414 5.225 4.994  59  33.1  2.06  294  274  18   1.50 161.16 m i ke ISC        1136661
 (#PRIME)
 (#PARAM pP_DEPTH=33+5)

Magnitude  Err Nsta Author      OrigID
Mb     5.5       10 MOS        1136657
Ms     5.0        4 MOS        1136657
MS     5.1          PEK        1136659
mb     5.5          NEIC       1136660
MS     5.1          NEIC       1136660
mb     5.4 0.1   38 ISC        1136661
MS     5.0 0.1   10 ISC        1136661

The change in the ISC Bulletin has come as part of the Rebuild mega-project that we ran at the ISC for 10 years and completed in 2020. The phantom M5.2 "event" of interest has been banished whilst the majority of its "station readings" re-associated with the real event in New Britain that now has 274 associated station readings instead of 238 in the past. For example, station readings of

YOU, CAN fit there as PcP;

MAT as ScP;

GBA  as P;

BNG, WTS, ECP, ECB and SJB as various branches of PKP/PKS.

This explains why you can no longer find the 1985/09/10 M5.2 event in the rebuilt ISC Bulletin. If GA still has a record of this earthquake with reference to the ISC, than we apologise for being a cause and kindly ask GA to remove it.

I did not mean to criticise my colleagues-predecessors at the ISC. Back in 1987 they had very little chance of catching this "event" automatically. Sadly, this event passed their manual review on some sunny Friday afternoon. At the ISC, we now have a dedicated process that aims to identify and catch similar instances before their publication.

Best wishes to all,

Dmitry

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On 10/07/2021 23:56, Col Lynam wrote:

Hi Dmitry, nice puzzle about a missing Aust event in the ISC CATALOG. Have you got access to the reason why the M5.2 W. AUST has been deleted? 

Cheers Col lynam

 

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