Hanuman, Yudhishthira and Karna agree on Bheema - Mahabharata
V Subrahmanian
https://bombay.indology.info/mahabharata/text/UD/MBh03.txt
03147015 वैशंपायन उवाच
03147015a विज्ञाय तं बलोन्मत्तं बाहुवीर्येण गर्वितम्
03147015c हृदयेनावहस्यैनं हनूमान्वाक्यमब्रवीत्
03147016a प्रसीद नास्ति मे शक्तिरुत्थातुं जरयानघ
Knowing that Bhima is 'puffed by his strength and proud of his prowess', Hanuman mocked him within and spoke further.
In the Mahaprasthanika Parva of Mahabharata, when everyone of the Pandavas and Draupadi, fell one by one, while marching in line, Bheema also fell. When he asked his elder brother Dharmaraya, 'Tell me if you know why I fell', the latter replied:
https://bombay.indology.info/mahabharata/text/UD/MBh17.txt
17002023 वैशंपायन उवाच
17002023a इत्युक्त्वा प्रस्थितो राजा भीमोऽथ निपपात ह
17002023c पतितश्चाब्रवीद्भीमो धर्मराजं युधिष्ठिरम्
17002024a भो भो राजन्नवेक्षस्व पतितोऽहं प्रियस्तव
17002024c किंनिमित्तं च पतनं ब्रूहि मे यदि वेत्थ ह
17002025 युधिष्ठिर उवाच
17002025a अतिभुक्तं च भवता प्राणेन च विकत्थसे
17002025c अनवेक्ष्य परं पार्थ तेनासि पतितः क्षितौ
'Bheema, you ate too much without regard for others. And you were proud of your strength'.
Karna says about Bhima in Dronaparva:
https://sanskritdocuments.org/.../maha.../unic/mbh07_sa.html
पुनः पुनस्तूबरक मूढ औदरिकेति च |
अकृतास्त्रक मा योत्सीर्बाल सङ्ग्रामकातर ||६९||
यत्र भोज्यं बहुविधं भक्ष्यं पेयं च पाण्डव |
तत्र त्वं दुर्मते योग्यो न युद्धेषु कथञ्चन ||७०||
मुनिर्भूत्वाथ वा भीम फलान्यद्धि सुदुर्मते |
वनाय व्रज कौन्तेय न त्वं युद्धविशारदः ||७१||
फलमूलाशने युक्तस्त्वं तथातिथिभोजने |
न त्वां शस्त्रसमुद्योगे योग्यं मन्ये वृकोदर ||७२||
पुष्पमूलफलाहारो व्रतेषु नियमेषु च |
उचितस्त्वं वने भीम न त्वं युद्धविशारदः ||७३||
क्व युद्धं क्व मुनित्वं च वनं गच्छ वृकोदर |
न त्वं युद्धोचितस्तात वनवासरतिर्भव ||७४||
सूदान्भृत्यजनान्दासांस्त्वं गृहे त्वरयन्भृशम् |
योग्यस्ताडयितुं क्रोधाद्भोजनार्थं वृकोदर ||७५||
'You are a eunuch, you like to eat too much, you deserve to be where there is great food, snacks and drinks,' Karna ridiculed Bheema .
Bheema himself shares this humiliation with Arjuna:
विरथो भीमसेनो वै कर्णवाक्षल्यपीडितः |
अमर्षवशमापन्नः फल्गुनं वाक्यमब्रवीत् ||२||
पुनः पुनस्तूबरक मूढ औदरिकेति च |
अकृतास्त्रक मा योधीर्बाल सङ्ग्रामकातर ||३||
इति मामब्रवीत्कर्णः पश्यतस्ते धनञ्जय |
एवं वक्ता च मे वध्यस्तेन चोक्तोऽस्मि भारत ||४|
'Again and again Karna mocked at me as a fool, a eunuch, a glutton'
Thus Hanuman and Yudhishthira were of the opinion that Bheema was 'proud of his strength'. Karna and Yudhishthira were of the opinion that 'Bheema was prone to overeating'.
Before the slaying of Bakasura in the city of Ekacakra, there is also the event of Bheema eating a cart full of food meant for the Asura.
https://madhwafestivals.com/2016/08/30/kusina-kandira/
ಬಂಡಿ ಅನ್ನವನುಂಡಿತು ಕೂಸು
ಬಕನ ಪ್ರಾಣವ ಕೊಂದಿತು ಕೂಸು
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ಪುರಂದರವಿಠಲನ ಪ್ರೇಮದ ಕೂಸು ||
There is a Purandara Dasa song which says that Bheema ate a cartload of food and slayed Bakasura.
Om
Kalyan
V Subrahmanian
NamaskaaramThere is a reportedly interesting book on Bhima on Amazon. I did not read the book, but it has good reviews. As with everything, there is a possibility of distasteful interpretations of the itihAsa and my sincere apologies if this is the case here.
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Kalyan
Ram Chandran
Namaskar:
All the five brothers have distinct qualities with diverse strength with one unified Mind! Panadavas are the greatest example to illustrate the Truth of Unity with diversity! The strength Pandavas come from the unity, discipline, highest moral values along with the grace of the Divine. Even the birth of these five brothers (six including Karna) were due to the Divine Grace. There are enough materials on each of them to write a book (Many have been written and available. It is good to know about the book on Bhima glorifying his significance in Mahabharat. None of us will ever be qualified to make a comparison of the five brothers to determine who is the greatest! We are all smart enough not to make any such attempts!
This may be a time to see the roles of the four brothers Rama, Bharata, Lakhmana and Shatrughna. Shatrughna the youngest brother of Rama has only limited amount of information in Ramayana (Valmiki, Tulsi and Kambar versions). Does this mean that he played an insignificant role in Ramayana? He is the twin brother of Lakshmana and according to Valmiki Ramayana, Shatrughna is one half component of Vishnu (Rama Avatar). It is true that Ramayana does not provide any elaborate information about Shatrugana. In Kamba Ramayana (Tamil poems) Bharata has been described in much greater details and one of the verses, the poet Kambar mentions that evan one thousand Ramas will not be equal to the qualities possessed by Bharata.
Our problem is most of us don’t think of Shatrughna as a central character in the Ramayana. We should remember the fact that he stayed in Ayodhya for 14 years, taking the burden of ruling the Kingdom unselfishly as a representative of Bharata. Bharata did not rule Ayodhya and he handed it over to Shatrughna his most trusted twin brother and stayed near the edge of the forest! It was mentioned in Ramayana that Shatrughna was prepared to kill Manthara who persuaded Kaikeyi to get the two boon to be fulfilled which sent Rama to the forest. Bharata intervened to stop him and saved manthara.
In conclusion, our epics expressed the importance of Unity in diversity! The final goal of reaching the Truth is only possible with unity of mind, body and intellect and with Divine Grace!!
Warm regards,
Ram Chandran
Bhaskar YR
praNAms
Hare Krishna
Bheemasena projected in bad light by advaitins (relevant ‘picks’ from scriptures) because ‘bheemasenaru’ has been given very esteemed position by tattva vAdins. These attempts is not anything directly related to bheemasena but to smear the arrogance of dvaitins. Likewise tattvavAdins do not hold any personal grudge on shiva/shankara but since we advaitins believe that bhagavatpaada is an incarnation of bhagavaan shankara they make all the attempts to tarnish the image of shankara. The dvaitins belittle the image of shankarachaarya so advaitins started abusing rAghavendra swamy & other dvaitaachaarya-s, Sri raaghavendra swamy written something against shankara and Advaita so start personally abusing him to settle the scores. If you (dvaitins) say vishNu/hari sarvOttama I (Advaitin) know how to show both are one and the same and shiva is sometimes superior to vishNu 😊 This battle of supremacy going on since ages and we the advaitins adding extra fuel of late in an effort of protecting our Advaita vedAnta from the clutches of dvaitins.
Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
bhaskar
Kalyan
Entropy
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