'Aham Brahmasmi' in Agni Purana

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V Subrahmanian

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'Aham Brahmasmi' in Agni Purana
अग्निपुराणम्/अध्यायः १४
This chapter contains a brief overview of the Mahabharata. Arjuna complains about the unpleasant idea of killing Bhishma, etc. in the battle, Krishna gives him a spiritual teaching. Then he says: Though the body perishes, the Atman is eternal. He teaches one to know that Atman as 'Ayamatma Brahma, Ahambrahmasmi'.
Both are Mahavakyas of Vedanta:
'Aham Brahmasmi' (Brihadaranyaka. Upanishad. 1 . 4 . 10) (I am Brahman, the Atman separated from the body) 'Ayamatma Brahma' (Br. U. 2 . 5 . 19/Mandukya Upanishad) (This Atman is Brahman).
कुरुपाण्डवसङ्‌ग्रामवर्णनम् ।
अग्निरुवाच
यौधिष्ठिरी दौर्योधनी कुरुक्षेत्रं ययौ चमूः।
भीष्मद्रोणादिकान् हृष्ट्वा नायुध्यत गुरुनिति ।। १ ।।
पार्थं ह्युवाच भगवान्नशोच्या भीष्ममुख्यकाः।
शरीराणि विनाशीनि न शरीरी विनश्यति ।। २ ।।
अयमात्मा परं ब्रह्म अहंब्रह्मास्मि विद्धि तम् ।
सिद्ध्यसिद्ध्योः समो योगी राजधर्म्मं प्रपालय ।। ३ ।।
In this way, Lord Krishna tells the true nature of Jivatma through the Mahavakya.
In the Bhagavad Gita also this message is stated.
अविनाशि तु तद्विद्धि येन सर्वमिदं ततम् ।
विनाशमव्ययस्यास्य न कश्चित्कर्तुमर्हति ॥ १७ ॥ 2.17
This Atman is indestructible, this whole creation is pervaded by this Atman.
अच्छेद्योऽयमदाह्योऽयमक्लेद्योऽशोष्य एव च ।
नित्यः सर्वगतः स्थाणुरचलोऽयं सनातनः ॥ २४ ॥ 2.24
This Atman cannot be destroyed by the five elements. Know that it is eternal, all-pervading, firm, immovable.
Atman is said to be omnipresent in the context of Vedanta Mahavakya. It is well known that Brahman is omnipresent. But here Krishna teaches Jeevatma as omnipresent.
Om

V Subrahmanian

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On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 12:38 PM Sudhanshu Shekhar <sudhans...@gmail.com> wrote:
अच्छेद्योऽयमदाह्योऽयमक्लेद्योऽशोष्य एव च ।
नित्यः सर्वगतः स्थाणुरचलोऽयं सनातनः ॥ २४ ॥ 2.24

The adjectives sarvagatah and achalah used for AtmA are so conceptual. They can be reconciled only if AtmA is Brahman.

Very true.  This is a strong point for Advaita.  There is no description of Brahman in that context.  It was about the Atma of Bhishma etc. that Krishna is describing there.  

regards 

Regards.

On Mon, 17 Jun, 2024, 12:22 V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l, <adva...@lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
'Aham Brahmasmi' in Agni Purana
अग्निपुराणम्/अध्यायः १४
https://sa.wikisource.org/s/4sc

This chapter contains a brief overview of the Mahabharata. Arjuna complains
about the unpleasant idea of killing Bhishma, etc. in the battle, Krishna
gives him a spiritual teaching. Then he says: Though the body perishes, the
Atman is eternal. He teaches one to know that Atman as 'Ayamatma Brahma,
Ahambrahmasmi'.
Both are Mahavakyas of Vedanta:
'Aham Brahmasmi' (Brihadaranyaka. Upanishad. 1 . 4 . 10) (I am Brahman, the
Atman separated from the body) 'Ayamatma Brahma' (Br. U. 2 . 5 .
19/Mandukya Upanishad) (This Atman is Brahman).
कुरुपाण्डवसङ्‌ग्रामवर्णनम् ।
अग्निरुवाच
यौधिष्ठिरी दौर्योधनी कुरुक्षेत्रं ययौ चमूः।
भीष्मद्रोणादिकान् हृष्ट्वा नायुध्यत गुरुनिति ।। १ ।।
पार्थं ह्युवाच भगवान्नशोच्या भीष्ममुख्यकाः।
शरीराणि विनाशीनि न शरीरी विनश्यति ।। २ ।।
*अयमात्मा परं ब्रह्म अहंब्रह्मास्मि विद्धि तम् ।*

सिद्ध्यसिद्ध्योः समो योगी राजधर्म्मं प्रपालय ।। ३ ।।
In this way, Lord Krishna tells the true nature of Jivatma through the
Mahavakya.
In the Bhagavad Gita also this message is stated.
अविनाशि तु तद्विद्धि येन सर्वमिदं ततम् ।
विनाशमव्ययस्यास्य न कश्चित्कर्तुमर्हति ॥ १७ ॥ 2.17
This Atman is indestructible, this whole creation is pervaded by this Atman.
अच्छेद्योऽयमदाह्योऽयमक्लेद्योऽशोष्य एव च ।
नित्यः सर्वगतः स्थाणुरचलोऽयं सनातनः ॥ २४ ॥ 2.24
This Atman cannot be destroyed by the five elements. Know that it is
eternal, all-pervading, firm, immovable.
Atman is said to be omnipresent in the context of Vedanta Mahavakya. It is
well known that Brahman is omnipresent. But here Krishna teaches Jeevatma
as omnipresent.
Om
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