The Veda itself says the Veda is not absolutely real

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V Subrahmanian

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Dec 2, 2025, 6:06:53 AM (9 days ago) Dec 2
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While Advaita holds that apart from Nirguna Brahman everything else, including the Veda, is unreal, a question would arise 'How can the Veda be unreal?'.  The article substantiates the Advaitic stand with evidence from the Upanishad, Veda and the Bhāgavatavam:   


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subbu

Sudhanshu Shekhar

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Dec 2, 2025, 7:25:02 AM (9 days ago) Dec 2
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नमस्ते Subbu ji,

Very well analysed.

Special attention may be given to a definitive statement by BhAshyakAra - ‘यत्र त्वस्य सर्वमात्मैवाभूत्तत्केन कं पश्येत्’ (बृ. उ. २ । ४ । १४) इत्यादिना हि प्रबोधे प्रत्यक्षाद्यभावं दर्शयति

What it says is essentially this -- in prabOdha, there is no pratyaksha etc (anumAna etc). 

PrabOdha here is indeed being as Self, being the substratum. We all very well know that snake can be perceived only from the frame of reference of non-rope. From the frame of reference of rope, there is no perception of snake possible. Similarly, in prabOdha, being Self, there is no possibility of pratyaksha.

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Sudhanshu Shekhar.


Vikram Jagannathan

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Dec 2, 2025, 10:15:41 AM (8 days ago) Dec 2
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Namaskaram Hari ji,

OMkaram is a sound symbol representing the Truth, just as the symbol “pi” represents the irrational series 3.1412... The entity represented by OMkaram is absolutely real, whereas as a representation or a pointer, the akshara “OMkaram” is “not absolutely real”. It is only as real as the world.

prostrations,
Vikram


> On Dec 2, 2025, at 7:59 AM, Hari R via Advaita-l <adva...@lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
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> Is OMkaaram real or "not absolutely real"?
>
> Regards
> Hari
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>> On Tue, 2 Dec, 2025, 5:55 pm Sudhanshu Shekhar via Advaita-l, <
>> adva...@lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
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>> नमस्ते Subbu ji,
>>
>> Very well analysed.
>>
>> Special attention may be given to a definitive statement by BhAshyakAra -
>> ‘यत्र त्वस्य सर्वमात्मैवाभूत्तत्केन कं पश्येत्’ (बृ. उ. २ । ४ । १४)
>> इत्यादिना हि *प्रबोधे प्रत्यक्षाद्यभावं दर्शयति* ।
>>
>> What it says is essentially this -- in prabOdha, there is no pratyaksha etc
>> (anumAna etc).
>>
>> PrabOdha here is indeed being as Self, being the substratum. We all very
>> well know that snake can be perceived only from the frame of reference of
>> non-rope. From the frame of reference of rope, there is no perception of
>> snake possible. Similarly, in prabOdha, being Self, there is no possibility
>> of pratyaksha.
>>
>> Regards.
>> Sudhanshu Shekhar.
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