Comprison of advisor and AVL cruise

[Ebrahim Sadeghpour]

Hi
I have some questions about the difference of AVL cruise and advisor. Could you please help in the following question:
First, as far as I know AVL uses advisor models. I know that advisor is free-source and I can develop it.I want to know if AVL has more updated an complete models comparing to advisor?
I have a small research company has started working on hybrid vehicles. Do you recommend me to use advisor or buy an AVL package?
The last version of advisor was released at 2003. If I use advisor, is it possible that I face difficulties in modeling new hybrid configurations such as 48V BAS, parallel P2 or P4.
Do automobile manufacturer companies around the world still use advisor or they try another commercial software such as AVL.
In summary, would you please describe the advantageous of AVL cruise over advisor and what is your recommendation for commercial purposes?
Thanks for your time and consideration.
Ebrahim Sadeghpour

[Michael P O'Keefe]

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On Saturday, May 21, 2016 at 6:42:39 AM UTC-6, Ebrahim Sadeghpour wrote:

Hi
I have some questions about the difference of AVL cruise and advisor. Could you please help in the following question:
First, as far as I know AVL uses advisor models.

I have not interacted with AVL Cruise in a long time but I don't believe they are using anything from ADVISOR in their Cruise product. AVL was the owner/distributor of ADVISOR for several years prior to the release of ADVISOR as open-source software. The version of ADVISOR available to you online is from 2004, the last year it was developed by NREL. If AVL did anything with ADVISOR during their time of licensing it, none of those changes were ever shared out to us.
 

I know that advisor is free-source and I can develop it.I want to know if AVL has more updated an complete models comparing to advisor?

You would have to judge that for yourself as, again, I don't have any direct experience.
 

I have a small research company has started working on hybrid vehicles. Do you recommend me to use advisor or buy an AVL package?

Again, best for you to do the evaluation for yourself. I can tell you about ADVISOR but cannot make the value judgement between the two packages.
 

The last version of advisor was released at 2003. If I use advisor, is it possible that I face difficulties in modeling new hybrid configurations such as 48V BAS, parallel P2 or P4.

ADVISOR has many of the main types of vehicle powertrains and so you can generally pick one that is "close enough" for a high-level initial model. The datasets in ADVISOR are quite old, however. Especially, I think the battery data is out of date.
 

Do automobile manufacturer companies around the world still use advisor or they try another commercial software such as AVL.

I don't have any direct knowledge of that. You can go on sourceforge and see the number of downloads of ADVISOR over time as well as the location of download but not the breakdown by company.
 

In summary, would you please describe the advantageous of AVL cruise over advisor and what is your recommendation for commercial purposes?

Especially since ADVISOR is not a commercial entity, we don't have this kind of information. I would recommend that, if you have matlab/simulink, that you donwload and try ADVISOR and see what it is and also request a trial license from AVL to evaluate their software. Hope that helps.
 

[ali tahoori]

Dear Mr. Sadeghpour,

I've done a project with help of Michael O'keefe by ADVISOR. I can spread my knowledge about this software. My project is about conversion of conventional motorcycle to hybrid electric motorcycle. If there is any question feel free to share it with me by my emails (a.tahoo...@gmail.com)

Nowadays, I'm trying to learn and use AVL CRUISE due to my next project which is about hybrid commercial vehicles. I'd be really grateful if we can be in touch with others and share some information about these two software. May be there is a chance to cooperate with each other to fulfill our main purpose. 

Please feel free to leave any comments in my email. I'm glad to see your message in my Gmail.

Thanks.

With Regard,

Ali Tahoori.