PS CS4 Extended and Grain Surgery 2

[John_...@adobeforums.com]

Just loaded PS CS4 on my 64 Bit Vista machine. Although loading the Grain Surgery filters, etc into my plug-ins folder works fine, CS4 doesn't 'see" them. Visual Infinity seems to have moved on so I can't ask them. Any one else have this wonderful set and had similar problems. Grain Surgery worked fine on the same machine with CS3. Grain Surgery 2 is or was such a wonderful program. Any input would be appreciated.

[Steve Sprengel]

For a plugin not specifically designed for 64-bit Photoshop, like a non-longer-supported plug-in, you should try running the 32-bit version of Photoshop on your Vista 64.

If it isn't already installed along with the 64-bit version you are apparently using, there should be a setup32 and a setup64 on the install media or download-extract directory.

Once you have both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Photoshop installed, you just need to start up the 32-bit version for Bridge or Lightroom to use it instead of the default 32-bit version.

[Robert_...@adobeforums.com]

It is my understanding that you need 64-bit versions of your plug-ins to
work in the 64-bit version of Photoshop with a 64-bit OS. The only way
arround this that I know of is to run the 32-bit version of Photoshop to
handle you plug-ins. This means having two versions installed and switching
between them. This plug-in problem is the only thing holding me back from
switching to 64-bit. I have 8GB of RAM installed now, but have to run a
32-bit OS because of plug-ins. I also have no intentions of jumping between
32-bit and 64-bit to get what I need.

Come on Alien Skin, Nik Software and OnOne Software get the lead out
already!!!!!

Robert

[John_...@adobeforums.com]

In that Grain Surgery worked on CS3 with the same OS, I'll just keep CS3 around for a while to operate it and other plug-ins for special projects. I love living in the age of terabyte capacities. Once again, the wonderful people of the forum helped me out. Thank you very much.

[Ramón_G_Castañeda@adobeforums.com]

John,

Shortly before CS3 was released, Adobe acquired Grain Surgery from Visual Infinity.

Adobe only sort-of acknowledged that during the Red Pill (CS3) beta testing period. I'm on a Mac, and all four Grain Surgery plug-ins immediately and violently crashed the first build(s?) of CS3. Adobe chose to fix CS3 rather than address the Grain Surgery incompatibility.

Fortunately for me, Grain Surgery works just fine hosted by CS4 on my machine, but it will not work on any of the Mac-Intel boxes. Grain Surgery is essential for me, so I have resigned myself of keeping this machine, CS4 and Grain Surgery for the foreseeable time.

Not much we can do about Adobe's abandoning of Grain Surgery. What a shame!

[dave_...@adobeforums.com]

embrace extend extinguish? sounds like some company from redmond, wa i'm sure you've heard of. what's that? would you like me to lend you a free hand you say? ;)

[steve_g...@adobeforums.com]

As has been stated, Grain Surgery v.2 still works in CS4, if you use the 32 bit version of Photoshop. On 64 bit Vista, the default Photoshop install includes both the 32-bit (x86) and 64-bit targets. You just need to make sure you are installing the plug-ins to the compatible target.

Ramón, even thought this is the Win forum ;-), Grain Surgery v.2 will work on a Mac-Intel box. You just have to run Ps in Rosetta. I do get your implication that the plug-in wasn't updated to be a UB by Adobe so it could run native on Mac-Intel, but have nothing beyond that to offer.

regards,
steve

[Ramón_G_Castañeda@adobeforums.com]

Steve,

Thanks for the courtesy of your response.

The Grain Surgery plug-ins (there are four of them: Add Grain, Match Grain, Remove Grain and Sample Grain) were apparently rolled into After Effects. I have no way of checking that, as I do not use After Effects.

I'm assuming they would have made UB versions of said Grain Surgery plug-ins, and I wonder how transferable they would be to Photoshop.

By the same token, if there be a 64-bit version of After Effects, then the Grain Surgery plug-ins may have also been re-written in 64 bit for Windows users.