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Plug-ins comparable to XaosTools Terrazzo?

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Larry Auerbach

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Sep 5, 2003, 6:46:24 PM9/5/03
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One of my old favorite Photoshop plug-ins is Xaos Tool's Terrazzo 2.0. Given that the company shows little signs of life (at least as far as I can discern from their website), I'm wondering if anything else has come along that functions in MacOS X 10.2 with comparable symmetry features. Also, has anyone here used Terrazzo successfully with Photoshop 7 launched in Classic mode? I haven't attempted to install and test it, assuming it wouldn't work, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask first.

Scott Weichert

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Sep 5, 2003, 7:44:49 PM9/5/03
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Most legacy plugins still work in OS9 with PS7. I've not encountered any that don't.

Phosphor

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Sep 6, 2003, 1:30:36 PM9/6/03
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"Plug-ins comparable to XaosTools Terrazzo?"


I've never seen anything comparable, for any OS.

Sure wish XaosTools would update Terrrazzo and PaintAlchemy.

Navarro Parker

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Sep 6, 2003, 2:30:44 PM9/6/03
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Are they still in business?

Phosphor

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Sep 6, 2003, 2:39:56 PM9/6/03
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The XaosTools website <http://www.xaostools.com> is still up, and it looks like they're still selling their wares (through a Yahoo Stores e-commerce portal). So yeah, I guess they are.

Larry Auerbach

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Sep 6, 2003, 9:29:35 PM9/6/03
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I'm working on a Mac I bought last September which can boot up in System 9, but I never bothered to install all my old favorite plugins since I was trying to get used to a total MacOS X daily experience (except for my begrudging use of Quark 5). I guess I'll pull out all my installer CDs and get all those antique plug-ins up and running.

I guess the Photoshop plug-in business isn't what it used to be, otherwise we'd have updates to things like Terrazzo and Paint Alchemy.

Navarro Parker

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Sep 8, 2003, 2:55:47 PM9/8/03
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Yeah, they may be selling their apps, but their Mac line of software hasn't been updated in five years or so. Their SGI offerings look similarly crusty.

It's probably like Macromedia and Fontographer. Not dead, but not really alive either.

Did Xaos lose all their programmers to PDI and Pixar? I remember they used to be hot stuff a while back.

Ann Shelbourne

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Sep 8, 2003, 9:13:39 PM9/8/03
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Larry:

I just keep two copies of Photoshop on my computer: one configured to run in OSX; and the other (complete with all my plug-ins) set to run in Classic.

A click on the correct icon gives you immediate access to the features that you need. And if you set Classic to launch on start-up, and configure it to sleep when not needed, you will hardly notice that its presence.

Larry Auerbach

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Sep 9, 2003, 1:53:38 AM9/9/03
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Ann:

I'm guessing you mean two copies of PS 7 with the same serial number,
one set up for Mac OS X and one set up for Classic, but not running at the
same time? Or can they run at the same time?

It sounds like a great idea. So antique plug-ins run fine in Classic?
Is it advisable to boot into System 9 to install oldies, or is running
the installers in Classic reliable?

This will perhaps save me from occasional moments of misty-eyed
late-'90s nostalgia. Maybe I'll even drag out my Live Picture installer
CD too while I'm at it!

Larry

Phosphor

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Sep 9, 2003, 9:11:14 AM9/9/03
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I'm thinking that a lot of the effects done by PaintAlchemy can be done with Synthetik's "Studio Artist." <http://www.synthetik.com>. If you dig through (or regularly visit) CreativeMac/DigitalMediaNet.com <http://www.digitalmediadesigner.com/site/homeset1.htm> you'd see that David Nagel has been creating brushes and tutorials for Studio Artist for quite awhile now. And not only can it work on static images, it's big strength is rotoscoping digital video into more artistic renderings. I've played with it a little but there's wa-a-a-a-ay more to it than I've even come close to exploring. OS X-ready, and not too high-priced, either.

Ann Shelbourne

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Sep 9, 2003, 4:49:37 PM9/9/03
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I have two copies of PS 7 with the SAME serial number,
one set up for Mac OS X and one set up for Classic, running at the same time!

I assumed, for the longest time, that I wouldn't be able to do that so I used to quit out of the one before opening the other.
You don't need to do that.

I also have Acrobat 6 running in OSX at the same time that Acrobat 5 is running in Classic which allows me to print to my Epson 1270 using Adobe PressReady. I reckon that I could probably have two copies of InDesign running concurrently too.

I assume that you can install most of the old plug-ins from inside Classic but haven't had to do that because I savedt my "Third-party Plug-ins" folder in which I store them all.

Larry Auerbach

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Sep 9, 2003, 7:52:16 PM9/9/03
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Ann,

Such revelations! I knew that you could have copies of Toast Deluxe
burning to, say, a SuperDrive and a CD-RW drive at the same time,
but it never occurred to me that other applications could be duped
and used for different purposes simultaneously.

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