Math Type equations in PM7 - Win

[Carl B. Johnson]

Gary
PM does not gracefully handle Word Docs with tables, math Type, etc.
Have you read the FAQ (located at the top of the listing in the forum)
abut PDFs, and also about Word Excel tables. They will explain the
different work-arounds, but nfortunately there doesn't appear to be any
easy way.

You could try www.pdf995.com free utility which will create PDFs and
does a good job of handling tables, but it does tend to choke on some
inferior fonts.

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[Gary Hills]

Our editing dept has moved to using Math Type to generate equations within large Word files which are then imported into PM7 for pagination. All seems to be going well until trying to print or pdf the PM file and some equations move from their position on the page and then pile up in the middle-left hand side of the page. This has happened on quite a few different PCs and I have tried a number of different print setting, but no help. I did a search on this site and there was a similar message from Sept 2002 when someone else had a similar problem. There was no real direct answer to why this happened just advice to save the Math Types as eps file which it can do. In my case there are so many per file (up to 90 in this case) that eps files are not really helpful and not all the Math Types are moving, only some - Why?
Any help greatly appreciated.

Gary Hills
Milton Keynes
UK

[Bob Levine]

> and not all the Math Types are moving, only some - Why?

Nobody knows. That's the reason why you should be using EPS. I know it's
not easy, but it works 100% of the time.

Bob

[Roger Trigg]

Gary,

Bob won't approve but I always insert equations from Word using the Paste-special tool choosing the equation object option. For me equations stay where they're put following whatever tab alignment setting is chosen.

Roger

[John Davies]

Hi, Gary,

> some equations move from their position on the page

See the FAQ: Donald Gruener "1.3 - Graphics / tables are repositioned, cropped, or missing in PDF" 5/3/02 1:03pm </cgi-bin/webx?14@@.ef851c1/0>

Iechyd da! John
11:57 29/05/03 BST

[Linda Williams]

We had this problem here and found that EPS solves the problem when working in Windows. It's a "metafile" problem. When the Word file is dumped to Pagemaker, the equations created in MathType become metafiles. On the Mac, they become PICTs and seem to work fine. If you are only "paginating", why not do that in Word? Just an idea. Otherwise, save out your equations replacing them with "text" placeholders. It's a tedious job inserting the EPS files but maybe you can have some part-time person do it. Just another idea.
Good luck!
From one who's been there. :)

[Stefano]

dear gary
I have had this problem since our migration from Windows 98 to Windows
xp/2000.
The problem is in the cut&paste inclusion of MT formulas
Adobe say to me that i must not use cut&Paste with PageMaker.
The don't care about this problem and don't have any intention to
solve this issue.

I have try mat+magic and MathEq, btu these software don't works fine .
By
Stefano

[John Davies]

Hi, Stefano,

> Adobe say to me that i must not use cut&Paste with PageMaker.
>

That's right.

One option is to create PDF from MT formulas and "place" that into PM.

Iechyd da! John. Glannaumersi, Lloegr
Sat, 12 Jul 2003 22:23 +0100

[Stefano]

Yes this is the solution but is not a usefull solution.
If you must change the formula you must open with MT, export and
re-insert in the document.
If you must change 1 or 2 formulas is OK but if you must change a lot
of formula is an annoying procedure.
By
Stefano

PS:
I don't think that at Adobe has less programming skill than other
software house, so why don't make Cut&Paste to works ??? :-(

John Davies <nob...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
>Hi, Stefano

[John Davies]

Hi, Stefano,

> so why don't make Cut&Paste to works ???
>

Because of the limitations of the Windows Clipboard.
PageMaker demands more than the Windows clipboard can handle.

Iechyd da! John. Glannaumersi, Lloegr

Sun, 13 Jul 2003 11:24 +0100

[John Davies]

Hi, Stefano,

Read these, and follow the advice and you will have no problems with PM.

"Recommended Workflow for Creating PageMaker Publications"
http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/2f0d6.htm

"Imported Graphics Issues"
http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?1...@181.MiYua0amZOd.552070@.ef8501c

Everyone acknowledges that PM is old and almost certainly coming to the end of
its product life. If you want to future-proof yourself and your work, move to
InDesign.

Iechyd da! John. Glannaumersi, Lloegr

Sun, 13 Jul 2003 11:28 +0100

[Stefano]

I John
this could be possible, but how do you explain that in Windows 98 all
works and in Windows XP (the best operating system, Microsoft says) it
don't works ???
I think that the problem is non windows but the interaction between
Windows PM and MathType.
Almost every Windows programs use Clipboard ina good way.

By
Stefano

[John Davies]

Hi, Stefano,

> Almost every Windows programs use Clipboard ina good way.
>

I disagree.

Follow Adobe's advice and you will be fine.
If you wish to argue, take it up with Microsoft.

Iechyd da! John. Glannaumersi, Lloegr

Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:19 +0100

[Stefano]

John,
i have not buy PM from Microsoft but from Adobe, so i think that
should be Adobe to solve the problem.
If Adobe is not able to make Cut&Paste works well, could remove the
options from Edit menu and not simple say "you cannot use it"
How do you explain that in the document all seems to be ok but when
you print the formulas are in the wrokng position ???
If was a Windows problem probably, you should not be able to insert
and show correctly the formula from inside PM.
But when the formulas are in the PM's document i think that every
Cut&paste jobs are done.
by
Stefano